Bantams teenager Scott Brown set to sign for St Johnstone

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Scott Brown opted for a move back to Scotland to get more game-time next season Scott Brown opted for a move back to Scotland to get more game-time next season

Scott Brown is returning to Scotland with an endorsement from City chief Phil Parkinson.

The 18-year-old midfielder has been training with St Johnstone and is poised to sign a permanent deal for the Europa League qualifiers.

Brown played three cup games for City last season, catching the eye at Northampton and Brentford, and was offered a senior contract in May.

But he has decided to return north after being told that he was well down the pecking order at Valley Parade, with Parkinson well stocked for options in that central area.

Parkinson said: “Scott’s a terrific lad and looks a good prospect. We had a chat about the situation here and he was keen to get back to Scotland.

“He’s a young lad away from home and this is a good chance for him.”

City were looking to send out Brown on loan for first-team experience and had contacted clubs at Conference North level.

Parkinson added: “We’ve also got young Jack Stockdill, who is someone we needed to be training with us.

“But Scott went up to Scotland for a trial game and it went well. I wish him all the best for the future.”

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9:19am Tue 23 Jul 13

bantam34 says...

why not a LOAN to St.Johnstone - ridiculous!
why not a LOAN to St.Johnstone - ridiculous! bantam34
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9:24am Tue 23 Jul 13

Edinburgh -bantam says...

There's an excellent interview with Scott Brown on The Width of a Post website.
There's an excellent interview with Scott Brown on The Width of a Post website. Edinburgh -bantam
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10:51am Tue 23 Jul 13

Cityman23 says...

Scott's words about 'PP' and Bradford City in the 'Width Of the post' piece were very warm and seemed genuinely heartfelt. For a young lad he showed maturity in his thinking and obviously had grown fond of the club. City could have arranged for a year's loan for him but the mgr. has given the lad the chance to make a career for himself starting in Perth. It might well be that Scott will go on to prove that City have made a mistake and part of me sort of hopes he does - he seems a very likeable player.

Sadly, in the modern game the main 'victims' tend to be young players who just don't get long enough to make their mark, because all clubs need to use their money very prudently and fairly quick decisions have to be made about whether a player is going to be used/not. Inevitably this means an experienced player with potentially less talent will always be favoured over the raw, 'diamond in the rough' (who might prove not to be a diamond at all!)

As Scott said in the 'Width of the Post' interview, "was was 'PP' going to give a 17 year old a chance in high pressure matches...well no..and I don't disagree with him"

And yet it is also the case that whilst experienced players are bought in pushing young talent further back in the pecking order a 'price will be paid eventually.'

We saw how the England youth sides crashed earlier in the summer. And many potential good young players are lost to the game because talent in itself is often not enough. A good quantity of luck too is often required as well as patience and far-sightedness.

Most mgrs. are well aware THEY will be judged on the next half dozen matches so 'time' is something they simply do not have!
Scott's words about 'PP' and Bradford City in the 'Width Of the post' piece were very warm and seemed genuinely heartfelt. For a young lad he showed maturity in his thinking and obviously had grown fond of the club. City could have arranged for a year's loan for him but the mgr. has given the lad the chance to make a career for himself starting in Perth. It might well be that Scott will go on to prove that City have made a mistake and part of me sort of hopes he does - he seems a very likeable player. Sadly, in the modern game the main 'victims' tend to be young players who just don't get long enough to make their mark, because all clubs need to use their money very prudently and fairly quick decisions have to be made about whether a player is going to be used/not. Inevitably this means an experienced player with potentially less talent will always be favoured over the raw, 'diamond in the rough' (who might prove not to be a diamond at all!) As Scott said in the 'Width of the Post' interview, "was was 'PP' going to give a 17 year old a chance in high pressure matches...well no..and I don't disagree with him" And yet it is also the case that whilst experienced players are bought in pushing young talent further back in the pecking order a 'price will be paid eventually.' We saw how the England youth sides crashed earlier in the summer. And many potential good young players are lost to the game because talent in itself is often not enough. A good quantity of luck too is often required as well as patience and far-sightedness. Most mgrs. are well aware THEY will be judged on the next half dozen matches so 'time' is something they simply do not have! Cityman23
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10:51am Tue 23 Jul 13

KnightMcCall says...

Very disappointed. Only seen him play a few times but he looks so classy on the ball. Really wanted to see him breaking through but good luck to him at St Johnstone.
Very disappointed. Only seen him play a few times but he looks so classy on the ball. Really wanted to see him breaking through but good luck to him at St Johnstone. KnightMcCall
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11:20am Tue 23 Jul 13

Pablo says...

bantam34 wrote:
why not a LOAN to St.Johnstone - ridiculous!
Exactly!

On the face of it, a crazy decision to offload a lad with immense talent.

As I posted elsewhere, playing for the reserves, he was head and shoulders above anyone else on the pitch, at a mere eighteen years of age .

Scott Brown will have a big future in the game, a great pity someone decided it won't be with us.
[quote][p][bold]bantam34[/bold] wrote: why not a LOAN to St.Johnstone - ridiculous![/p][/quote]Exactly! On the face of it, a crazy decision to offload a lad with immense talent. As I posted elsewhere, playing for the reserves, he was head and shoulders above anyone else on the pitch, at a mere eighteen years of age . Scott Brown will have a big future in the game, a great pity someone decided it won't be with us. Pablo
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12:01pm Tue 23 Jul 13

Ashbantam23 says...

Pablo wrote:
bantam34 wrote: why not a LOAN to St.Johnstone - ridiculous!
Exactly! On the face of it, a crazy decision to offload a lad with immense talent. As I posted elsewhere, playing for the reserves, he was head and shoulders above anyone else on the pitch, at a mere eighteen years of age . Scott Brown will have a big future in the game, a great pity someone decided it won't be with us.
As you say when you seen him in the reserves he looked head and shoulders, but the reserve team is getting scrapped this season as Scott Brown says in the article on Width of a Post

http://widthofapost.
com/2013/07/21/speak
ing-to-scott-brown/

So then we have to decide on do we keep a young lad who isn't going to feature in the games as there are 4 players in front of him, or do we offload, yes a loan may have been an option but maybe the lad wanted to be back up in Scotland aswell?
[quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantam34[/bold] wrote: why not a LOAN to St.Johnstone - ridiculous![/p][/quote]Exactly! On the face of it, a crazy decision to offload a lad with immense talent. As I posted elsewhere, playing for the reserves, he was head and shoulders above anyone else on the pitch, at a mere eighteen years of age . Scott Brown will have a big future in the game, a great pity someone decided it won't be with us.[/p][/quote]As you say when you seen him in the reserves he looked head and shoulders, but the reserve team is getting scrapped this season as Scott Brown says in the article on Width of a Post http://widthofapost. com/2013/07/21/speak ing-to-scott-brown/ So then we have to decide on do we keep a young lad who isn't going to feature in the games as there are 4 players in front of him, or do we offload, yes a loan may have been an option but maybe the lad wanted to be back up in Scotland aswell? Ashbantam23
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12:05pm Tue 23 Jul 13

wakefieldbantam says...

Pablo wrote:
bantam34 wrote:
why not a LOAN to St.Johnstone - ridiculous!
Exactly!

On the face of it, a crazy decision to offload a lad with immense talent.

As I posted elsewhere, playing for the reserves, he was head and shoulders above anyone else on the pitch, at a mere eighteen years of age .

Scott Brown will have a big future in the game, a great pity someone decided it won't be with us.
We'll see about his future I'm not so sure it will be as good as everyone seems to think only time will tell.

Personally, I was more disappointed to see Adam Baker go, I thought he had more of a chance but again only time will tell.

Although have to agree it is always disappointing to see young players like this go.
[quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantam34[/bold] wrote: why not a LOAN to St.Johnstone - ridiculous![/p][/quote]Exactly! On the face of it, a crazy decision to offload a lad with immense talent. As I posted elsewhere, playing for the reserves, he was head and shoulders above anyone else on the pitch, at a mere eighteen years of age . Scott Brown will have a big future in the game, a great pity someone decided it won't be with us.[/p][/quote]We'll see about his future I'm not so sure it will be as good as everyone seems to think only time will tell. Personally, I was more disappointed to see Adam Baker go, I thought he had more of a chance but again only time will tell. Although have to agree it is always disappointing to see young players like this go. wakefieldbantam
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5:55pm Tue 23 Jul 13

KnightMcCall says...

wakefieldbantam wrote:
Pablo wrote:
bantam34 wrote:
why not a LOAN to St.Johnstone - ridiculous!
Exactly!

On the face of it, a crazy decision to offload a lad with immense talent.

As I posted elsewhere, playing for the reserves, he was head and shoulders above anyone else on the pitch, at a mere eighteen years of age .

Scott Brown will have a big future in the game, a great pity someone decided it won't be with us.
We'll see about his future I'm not so sure it will be as good as everyone seems to think only time will tell.

Personally, I was more disappointed to see Adam Baker go, I thought he had more of a chance but again only time will tell.

Although have to agree it is always disappointing to see young players like this go.
Indeed only time will tell. However, Brown is clearly wanted by SPL clubs...there does not seem to be any great interest in Baker from clubs of a similar standing. I hope they both do well but as Cityman says above; talent is clearly not enough.

Really surprised that we are scrapping the reserves though and that this seems to have been kept quiet? From launching a Development Squad to having no second string at all in just two years is bizarre. What is the long-term plan? How will we develop young talent?
[quote][p][bold]wakefieldbantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantam34[/bold] wrote: why not a LOAN to St.Johnstone - ridiculous![/p][/quote]Exactly! On the face of it, a crazy decision to offload a lad with immense talent. As I posted elsewhere, playing for the reserves, he was head and shoulders above anyone else on the pitch, at a mere eighteen years of age . Scott Brown will have a big future in the game, a great pity someone decided it won't be with us.[/p][/quote]We'll see about his future I'm not so sure it will be as good as everyone seems to think only time will tell. Personally, I was more disappointed to see Adam Baker go, I thought he had more of a chance but again only time will tell. Although have to agree it is always disappointing to see young players like this go.[/p][/quote]Indeed only time will tell. However, Brown is clearly wanted by SPL clubs...there does not seem to be any great interest in Baker from clubs of a similar standing. I hope they both do well but as Cityman says above; talent is clearly not enough. Really surprised that we are scrapping the reserves though and that this seems to have been kept quiet? From launching a Development Squad to having no second string at all in just two years is bizarre. What is the long-term plan? How will we develop young talent? KnightMcCall
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7:01pm Tue 23 Jul 13

Pablo says...

KnightMcCall wrote:
wakefieldbantam wrote:
Pablo wrote:
bantam34 wrote:
why not a LOAN to St.Johnstone - ridiculous!
Exactly!

On the face of it, a crazy decision to offload a lad with immense talent.

As I posted elsewhere, playing for the reserves, he was head and shoulders above anyone else on the pitch, at a mere eighteen years of age .

Scott Brown will have a big future in the game, a great pity someone decided it won't be with us.
We'll see about his future I'm not so sure it will be as good as everyone seems to think only time will tell.

Personally, I was more disappointed to see Adam Baker go, I thought he had more of a chance but again only time will tell.

Although have to agree it is always disappointing to see young players like this go.
Indeed only time will tell. However, Brown is clearly wanted by SPL clubs...there does not seem to be any great interest in Baker from clubs of a similar standing. I hope they both do well but as Cityman says above; talent is clearly not enough.

Really surprised that we are scrapping the reserves though and that this seems to have been kept quiet? From launching a Development Squad to having no second string at all in just two years is bizarre. What is the long-term plan? How will we develop young talent?
In recent seasons we haven't taken the reserve team seriously - selecting a mixture of trialists and youngsters. The reserve league seemed to get smaller by the season and there were big gaps between games.

Nevertheless, they were competitive and provided a means of keeping members on the periphery of the squad interested. Behind doors games won't have the same edge.

The reserves were always a stepping stone to the first team for promising youngsters. As you state, what now? We might as well scrap the youth team, because the link to the first team has been broken.

It seems we're now only interested in the finished article. However, I, like many others, always took special interest in those young players who came through the ranks. Admittedly, these have been few and far between in recent years and, if the club aren't interested in developing the likes of Scott Brown, then I think it's a short sighted policy.
[quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wakefieldbantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantam34[/bold] wrote: why not a LOAN to St.Johnstone - ridiculous![/p][/quote]Exactly! On the face of it, a crazy decision to offload a lad with immense talent. As I posted elsewhere, playing for the reserves, he was head and shoulders above anyone else on the pitch, at a mere eighteen years of age . Scott Brown will have a big future in the game, a great pity someone decided it won't be with us.[/p][/quote]We'll see about his future I'm not so sure it will be as good as everyone seems to think only time will tell. Personally, I was more disappointed to see Adam Baker go, I thought he had more of a chance but again only time will tell. Although have to agree it is always disappointing to see young players like this go.[/p][/quote]Indeed only time will tell. However, Brown is clearly wanted by SPL clubs...there does not seem to be any great interest in Baker from clubs of a similar standing. I hope they both do well but as Cityman says above; talent is clearly not enough. Really surprised that we are scrapping the reserves though and that this seems to have been kept quiet? From launching a Development Squad to having no second string at all in just two years is bizarre. What is the long-term plan? How will we develop young talent?[/p][/quote]In recent seasons we haven't taken the reserve team seriously - selecting a mixture of trialists and youngsters. The reserve league seemed to get smaller by the season and there were big gaps between games. Nevertheless, they were competitive and provided a means of keeping members on the periphery of the squad interested. Behind doors games won't have the same edge. The reserves were always a stepping stone to the first team for promising youngsters. As you state, what now? We might as well scrap the youth team, because the link to the first team has been broken. It seems we're now only interested in the finished article. However, I, like many others, always took special interest in those young players who came through the ranks. Admittedly, these have been few and far between in recent years and, if the club aren't interested in developing the likes of Scott Brown, then I think it's a short sighted policy. Pablo
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