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3:53pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Bantam76 says...

Come on City - let's make this second 45 count!!
Come on City - let's make this second 45 count!! Bantam76
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3:55pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Freddy says...

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Still puzzled that Ravenhill seems to be always on the bench?.
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* Still puzzled that Ravenhill seems to be always on the bench?. * Freddy
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3:59pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Victor Clayton says...

Gray not playing!
Gray not playing! Victor Clayton
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5:02pm Sat 2 Feb 13

nowt fresh says...

Think most would ha taken a point before the game,still only 3 points of a play off position with a game in hand.
Think most would ha taken a point before the game,still only 3 points of a play off position with a game in hand. nowt fresh
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5:56pm Sat 2 Feb 13

bahamianbantam says...

Good point - lets hope start of long unbeaten run.
Still no goals from midfiels. Worrying.
Good point - lets hope start of long unbeaten run. Still no goals from midfiels. Worrying. bahamianbantam
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6:41pm Sat 2 Feb 13

bigang02 says...

ref appalling today we could have had 3 pens.a point better than none.keep going lads onwards and upwards
ref appalling today we could have had 3 pens.a point better than none.keep going lads onwards and upwards bigang02
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7:17pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Beeceefcee says...

Onwards and upwards?
Onwards and upwards? Beeceefcee
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7:27pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Pablo says...

The players have had the luxury of a sunshine break and, given the recent dip in league form and resultant loss of ground in the promotion stakes, a draw is a disappointment as we seek to re-establish ourselves.

We know what this squad of players is capable of and it's frustrating to keep dropping points. Admittedly, we just don't seem to be getting the rub of the green with refs in this division.

Interesting that Gray got the nod over Connell when Wells went off. I was busting a gut to see Reid fit again but he's now relegated to a bit part player.
The players have had the luxury of a sunshine break and, given the recent dip in league form and resultant loss of ground in the promotion stakes, a draw is a disappointment as we seek to re-establish ourselves. We know what this squad of players is capable of and it's frustrating to keep dropping points. Admittedly, we just don't seem to be getting the rub of the green with refs in this division. Interesting that Gray got the nod over Connell when Wells went off. I was busting a gut to see Reid fit again but he's now relegated to a bit part player. Pablo
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8:16pm Sat 2 Feb 13

bcfc1903 says...

Once more a joker of an official decides the outcome of the game.....same old same old.

**

We shout with pride...we'll never hide..Claret an Amber.
Once more a joker of an official decides the outcome of the game.....same old same old. ** We shout with pride...we'll never hide..Claret an Amber. bcfc1903
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11:02pm Sat 2 Feb 13

fatbloke says...

to be fair, Gray hadnt played much before he joined us and hasnt played much since he arrived with cup games and bad weather so no surprise he wasnt involved today when our 'match fit' players have had a decent rest

I am sure we would have all taken a point at Fleetwood at the start of the season, lets not let our recent success increase our expectations
to be fair, Gray hadnt played much before he joined us and hasnt played much since he arrived with cup games and bad weather so no surprise he wasnt involved today when our 'match fit' players have had a decent rest I am sure we would have all taken a point at Fleetwood at the start of the season, lets not let our recent success increase our expectations fatbloke
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4:46am Sun 3 Feb 13

Plastic Bantam says...

Ref was terrible today.... how he didn't give that first penalty (which was pretty much a mugging) I'll never know.

But City were poor today, no width and Gary Jones just couldn't cross a ball or pass today (not like him)

Can understand why he didn't start with Hines or Reid as the pitch was small and we were away. Think we missed an opportunity today though, Fleetwood were there for the taking....

Think both teams were equally poor today, but a point is a point & Duke was fairly unlucky!!!

We need to start picking up 3 points quickly!!!!!!
Ref was terrible today.... how he didn't give that first penalty (which was pretty much a mugging) I'll never know. But City were poor today, no width and Gary Jones just couldn't cross a ball or pass today (not like him) Can understand why he didn't start with Hines or Reid as the pitch was small and we were away. Think we missed an opportunity today though, Fleetwood were there for the taking.... Think both teams were equally poor today, but a point is a point & Duke was fairly unlucky!!! We need to start picking up 3 points quickly!!!!!! Plastic Bantam
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8:53am Sun 3 Feb 13

Go Torps! Yer flying. says...

Its only a cup (etc, etc,) but I see Swansea conceded a headed goal by a big cenre forward, from a corner...
Its only a cup (etc, etc,) but I see Swansea conceded a headed goal by a big cenre forward, from a corner... Go Torps! Yer flying.
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10:42am Sun 3 Feb 13

1 bingley bantam says...

A point isnt too bad but bit frustrated that Reid isnt starting surely hes fit now.I confess Atkinson can run all day and has surpassed my expectations but once again he aint a winger so how he gets to start on the wing in front of reid baffles me on his day reid has to be one of the best players in this division.We persist playing wingers that cant really cross leaving Hanson up front feeding off scraps we are too narrow yes when you have to be cautious understandable but in this league most games we should be going for it a bit more imo..
A point isnt too bad but bit frustrated that Reid isnt starting surely hes fit now.I confess Atkinson can run all day and has surpassed my expectations but once again he aint a winger so how he gets to start on the wing in front of reid baffles me on his day reid has to be one of the best players in this division.We persist playing wingers that cant really cross leaving Hanson up front feeding off scraps we are too narrow yes when you have to be cautious understandable but in this league most games we should be going for it a bit more imo.. 1 bingley bantam
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11:02am Sun 3 Feb 13

audal says...

As i wasn't there i cannot comment on the quality of the team's performance, BUT once again my pet hate crops up and it is that a C.F. handles the ball in his own area thus conceding a penalty,he should be upfield waiting for the clearance. this applies to all who play in that position.
As i wasn't there i cannot comment on the quality of the team's performance, BUT once again my pet hate crops up and it is that a C.F. handles the ball in his own area thus conceding a penalty,he should be upfield waiting for the clearance. this applies to all who play in that position. audal
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11:10am Sun 3 Feb 13

macca1969 says...

Have to agree audal why Hanson was doing the hokey cokey in his own area is laughable. Can't complain was a stone wall penalty terrible one to give away but I would of taken a point at the start so no harm done
Have to agree audal why Hanson was doing the hokey cokey in his own area is laughable. Can't complain was a stone wall penalty terrible one to give away but I would of taken a point at the start so no harm done macca1969
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4:12pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Victor Clayton says...

audal wrote:
As i wasn't there i cannot comment on the quality of the team's performance, BUT once again my pet hate crops up and it is that a C.F. handles the ball in his own area thus conceding a penalty,he should be upfield waiting for the clearance. this applies to all who play in that position.
Is Hanson's toe better? Thought Gray might have started.
[quote][p][bold]audal[/bold] wrote: As i wasn't there i cannot comment on the quality of the team's performance, BUT once again my pet hate crops up and it is that a C.F. handles the ball in his own area thus conceding a penalty,he should be upfield waiting for the clearance. this applies to all who play in that position.[/p][/quote]Is Hanson's toe better? Thought Gray might have started. Victor Clayton
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5:11pm Sun 3 Feb 13

audal says...

TO ALL ROMANTICS--- we are nearer the bottom of the league than the top, so enjoy all that is before you, ie. Wembley but we will be going back to crappy places next season again. So just enjoy the greatest since 1911.
TO ALL ROMANTICS--- we are nearer the bottom of the league than the top, so enjoy all that is before you, ie. Wembley but we will be going back to crappy places next season again. So just enjoy the greatest since 1911. audal
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7:55pm Sun 3 Feb 13

macca1969 says...

audal wrote:
TO ALL ROMANTICS--- we are nearer the bottom of the league than the top, so enjoy all that is before you, ie. Wembley but we will be going back to crappy places next season again. So just enjoy the greatest since 1911.
Yawn
[quote][p][bold]audal[/bold] wrote: TO ALL ROMANTICS--- we are nearer the bottom of the league than the top, so enjoy all that is before you, ie. Wembley but we will be going back to crappy places next season again. So just enjoy the greatest since 1911.[/p][/quote]Yawn macca1969
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11:46pm Sun 3 Feb 13

tyker2 says...

why cannot teams be a bit radical when defending cornes etc :put three up front. wells and Hanson plus one other.preferably a wide man like Hines or Reid. Thought City's team looked a bit defensive with no real width
why cannot teams be a bit radical when defending cornes etc :put three up front. wells and Hanson plus one other.preferably a wide man like Hines or Reid. Thought City's team looked a bit defensive with no real width tyker2
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12:01am Mon 4 Feb 13

bcfc1903 says...

If.. as it seems... that some officals don't give BCFC decisions to prove they wont be swayed by large vociferous away support with the official having one eye on future promotion to officiating in the higher leagues...how is that official doing his job correctly...surely a penalty is a penalty whether there are 4 away fans at the match appealing for it given or 1400 doing exactly the same. It seems ludicrous if this is actually happening...as seems the case....also if that official mind set is in place, BCFC wont get a fair crack at home either.
If.. as it seems... that some officals don't give BCFC decisions to prove they wont be swayed by large vociferous away support with the official having one eye on future promotion to officiating in the higher leagues...how is that official doing his job correctly...surely a penalty is a penalty whether there are 4 away fans at the match appealing for it given or 1400 doing exactly the same. It seems ludicrous if this is actually happening...as seems the case....also if that official mind set is in place, BCFC wont get a fair crack at home either. bcfc1903
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9:56am Mon 4 Feb 13

KnightMcCall says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
If.. as it seems... that some officals don't give BCFC decisions to prove they wont be swayed by large vociferous away support with the official having one eye on future promotion to officiating in the higher leagues...how is that official doing his job correctly...surely a penalty is a penalty whether there are 4 away fans at the match appealing for it given or 1400 doing exactly the same. It seems ludicrous if this is actually happening...as seems the case....also if that official mind set is in place, BCFC wont get a fair crack at home either.
It's funny you say that. I thought the ref was a homer all day long and gave the pen BECAUSE the Fleetwood fans demanded one. Yes the ball hit his hand but it cannot be a penalty unless it is deliberate. Given that Hanson didn't have a clue that he'd done it then it cannot be deliberate and cannot be given. Just because the clowns who call themselves pundits come out with nonsense about "his hands shouldn't be up there" or i've seen them given" is utterly irrelevant. BALL TO HAND IS NOT A PEN
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: If.. as it seems... that some officals don't give BCFC decisions to prove they wont be swayed by large vociferous away support with the official having one eye on future promotion to officiating in the higher leagues...how is that official doing his job correctly...surely a penalty is a penalty whether there are 4 away fans at the match appealing for it given or 1400 doing exactly the same. It seems ludicrous if this is actually happening...as seems the case....also if that official mind set is in place, BCFC wont get a fair crack at home either.[/p][/quote]It's funny you say that. I thought the ref was a homer all day long and gave the pen BECAUSE the Fleetwood fans demanded one. Yes the ball hit his hand but it cannot be a penalty unless it is deliberate. Given that Hanson didn't have a clue that he'd done it then it cannot be deliberate and cannot be given. Just because the clowns who call themselves pundits come out with nonsense about "his hands shouldn't be up there" or i've seen them given" is utterly irrelevant. BALL TO HAND IS NOT A PEN KnightMcCall
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1:19pm Mon 4 Feb 13

bcfc1903 says...

KnightMcCall wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
If.. as it seems... that some officals don't give BCFC decisions to prove they wont be swayed by large vociferous away support with the official having one eye on future promotion to officiating in the higher leagues...how is that official doing his job correctly...surely a penalty is a penalty whether there are 4 away fans at the match appealing for it given or 1400 doing exactly the same. It seems ludicrous if this is actually happening...as seems the case....also if that official mind set is in place, BCFC wont get a fair crack at home either.
It's funny you say that. I thought the ref was a homer all day long and gave the pen BECAUSE the Fleetwood fans demanded one. Yes the ball hit his hand but it cannot be a penalty unless it is deliberate. Given that Hanson didn't have a clue that he'd done it then it cannot be deliberate and cannot be given. Just because the clowns who call themselves pundits come out with nonsense about "his hands shouldn't be up there" or i've seen them given" is utterly irrelevant. BALL TO HAND IS NOT A PEN
Yeah..i 've seen the incident....for me it's a call that could have gone either way, but very harsh...the odd thing regarding BCFC in the fourth division is that it seems officials look at our club and seem to have a mind set of 'i wont be swayed' which is ludicrous..there mind set should be 'i'll officiate the game correctly' whether it be BCFC, Accrington or Barnet ..anything else penalises BCFC, if 1400 BCFC fans scream for a penalty and it is a penalty..give it..not as it seems at the minute 'oh i can't i maybe being swayed by the crowd'...if they..the officials. can't see that the crowd is an irrevelance regarding correct decisions....god help our football club.
[quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: If.. as it seems... that some officals don't give BCFC decisions to prove they wont be swayed by large vociferous away support with the official having one eye on future promotion to officiating in the higher leagues...how is that official doing his job correctly...surely a penalty is a penalty whether there are 4 away fans at the match appealing for it given or 1400 doing exactly the same. It seems ludicrous if this is actually happening...as seems the case....also if that official mind set is in place, BCFC wont get a fair crack at home either.[/p][/quote]It's funny you say that. I thought the ref was a homer all day long and gave the pen BECAUSE the Fleetwood fans demanded one. Yes the ball hit his hand but it cannot be a penalty unless it is deliberate. Given that Hanson didn't have a clue that he'd done it then it cannot be deliberate and cannot be given. Just because the clowns who call themselves pundits come out with nonsense about "his hands shouldn't be up there" or i've seen them given" is utterly irrelevant. BALL TO HAND IS NOT A PEN[/p][/quote]Yeah..i 've seen the incident....for me it's a call that could have gone either way, but very harsh...the odd thing regarding BCFC in the fourth division is that it seems officials look at our club and seem to have a mind set of 'i wont be swayed' which is ludicrous..there mind set should be 'i'll officiate the game correctly' whether it be BCFC, Accrington or Barnet ..anything else penalises BCFC, if 1400 BCFC fans scream for a penalty and it is a penalty..give it..not as it seems at the minute 'oh i can't i maybe being swayed by the crowd'...if they..the officials. can't see that the crowd is an irrevelance regarding correct decisions....god help our football club. bcfc1903
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1:37pm Mon 4 Feb 13

Waynus1971 says...

KnightMcCall wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote: If.. as it seems... that some officals don't give BCFC decisions to prove they wont be swayed by large vociferous away support with the official having one eye on future promotion to officiating in the higher leagues...how is that official doing his job correctly...surely a penalty is a penalty whether there are 4 away fans at the match appealing for it given or 1400 doing exactly the same. It seems ludicrous if this is actually happening...as seems the case....also if that official mind set is in place, BCFC wont get a fair crack at home either.
It's funny you say that. I thought the ref was a homer all day long and gave the pen BECAUSE the Fleetwood fans demanded one. Yes the ball hit his hand but it cannot be a penalty unless it is deliberate. Given that Hanson didn't have a clue that he'd done it then it cannot be deliberate and cannot be given. Just because the clowns who call themselves pundits come out with nonsense about "his hands shouldn't be up there" or i've seen them given" is utterly irrelevant. BALL TO HAND IS NOT A PEN
Had the exact same argument with my brother yesterday. I even texted him the official rulebook and an attachment that refs are to use when deciding of the infringement was 'deliberate' or not. He refused to accept and claimed some by-laws that refs are to follow in relation to hands not being in a natural position.

I was at the game and when the ball came across the box, their fans claimed a push by Hanson. This automatically prompted the big man to stick his hands up (as if to say to the ref, "I'm not touching him"). The fella then strikes the ball against Hanson's hands and the penalty was awarded.

The rules do state 'ball-to-hand (not the other way around)', 'distance of ball to hand' (it was about a yard away) and whether the hands/arms were in an unnatural position (This can only be what it was awarded for).

One thing I will add. Hanson is well over 6ft and had his hands above his head. From a yard away, their player strikes Hanson's hand with the ball. If the trajectory of the ball was to be followed, the ball would have gone out of play. It was clearly unintentional and that is what the referee is ultimately responsible for trying to determine.

But why are we surprised. I recall one incident in the 2nd half when their player smashed Hanson across the face with his forearm/elbow. The freekick was rightly given ...... but to them!!!!!!

The bloke was just plain incompetent....!
[quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: If.. as it seems... that some officals don't give BCFC decisions to prove they wont be swayed by large vociferous away support with the official having one eye on future promotion to officiating in the higher leagues...how is that official doing his job correctly...surely a penalty is a penalty whether there are 4 away fans at the match appealing for it given or 1400 doing exactly the same. It seems ludicrous if this is actually happening...as seems the case....also if that official mind set is in place, BCFC wont get a fair crack at home either.[/p][/quote]It's funny you say that. I thought the ref was a homer all day long and gave the pen BECAUSE the Fleetwood fans demanded one. Yes the ball hit his hand but it cannot be a penalty unless it is deliberate. Given that Hanson didn't have a clue that he'd done it then it cannot be deliberate and cannot be given. Just because the clowns who call themselves pundits come out with nonsense about "his hands shouldn't be up there" or i've seen them given" is utterly irrelevant. BALL TO HAND IS NOT A PEN[/p][/quote]Had the exact same argument with my brother yesterday. I even texted him the official rulebook and an attachment that refs are to use when deciding of the infringement was 'deliberate' or not. He refused to accept and claimed some by-laws that refs are to follow in relation to hands not being in a natural position. I was at the game and when the ball came across the box, their fans claimed a push by Hanson. This automatically prompted the big man to stick his hands up (as if to say to the ref, "I'm not touching him"). The fella then strikes the ball against Hanson's hands and the penalty was awarded. The rules do state 'ball-to-hand (not the other way around)', 'distance of ball to hand' (it was about a yard away) and whether the hands/arms were in an unnatural position (This can only be what it was awarded for). One thing I will add. Hanson is well over 6ft and had his hands above his head. From a yard away, their player strikes Hanson's hand with the ball. If the trajectory of the ball was to be followed, the ball would have gone out of play. It was clearly unintentional and that is what the referee is ultimately responsible for trying to determine. But why are we surprised. I recall one incident in the 2nd half when their player smashed Hanson across the face with his forearm/elbow. The freekick was rightly given ...... but to them!!!!!! The bloke was just plain incompetent....! Waynus1971
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8:06pm Mon 4 Feb 13

Victor Clayton says...

So if all the players in a wall stand still but will their arms up, and the free kick is blocked by an arm. It's not a foul!
So if all the players in a wall stand still but will their arms up, and the free kick is blocked by an arm. It's not a foul! Victor Clayton
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8:11pm Mon 4 Feb 13

Victor Clayton says...

Victor Clayton wrote:
So if all the players in a wall stand still but will their arms up, and the free kick is blocked by an arm. It's not a foul!
Forget I said that!
[quote][p][bold]Victor Clayton[/bold] wrote: So if all the players in a wall stand still but will their arms up, and the free kick is blocked by an arm. It's not a foul![/p][/quote]Forget I said that! Victor Clayton
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