Pub's Wembley trip is in doubt over Bradford City tickets

Maggie Johnstone, landlady of the Second West pub

Maggie Johnstone, landlady of the Second West pub

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A Bradford pub licensee who laid out £7,000 on a trip for regulars to Bradford City’s Capital One Cup Final has admitted they could be forced to watch the match at a London pub if tickets do not go on general sale.

Maggie Johnstone, of the South West Pub in Cemetery Road, Lidget Green, started taking payments for travel and hotel stays in the capital as soon as the Bantams secured their spot in the hotly-anticipated showdown against Swansea.

But last night she spoke of her frustration after discovering Wembley tickets would only be available to season ticket holders when they go on sale today.

The pub manager said she had been prepared to queue for tickets for the 55 people who have handed over cash, but would now have to wait to see if there were any tickets left once season ticket holders and flexicard members had bought their quota – with each able to claim three tickets.

She also said she had considered trying to buy tickets from Swansea and Wembley directly.

“The regulars have all said they don’t want me to lose money so they’ll get the coaches and hotels to watch the match at a pub,” she said. “What else can we do?

“We’ve got fans here who had season tickets until recently but had to make cut backs and around 40 from here have been following the cup run from the Wigan game.

“Just because people aren’t season ticket holders doesn’t mean they’re not fans.”

Bantams’ director of operations David Baldwin told the Telegraph & Argus yesterday that if the take-up for tickets was the same as for the Arsenal quarter final and Villa semi final games, there could be about 5,000 to 6,000 tickets left for general sale.

But he urged fans, including those abroad, to be careful about making travel arrangements before they had secured tickets.

Season ticket holders were able to buy their tickets from 9am today. Visit bradfordcityfc.co.uk for more information.

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8:06am Wed 30 Jan 13

Old Dave says...

In these days of ticket touts and premium re-selling sites, what makes her think that she would be able to walk up and buy 55 tickets for this match without being properly registered by the Football League or the FA? or at least getting in touch with the club before taking people's money?

A lot of people rightly blame cheap supermarket booze prices and the smoking ban for the sorry closure of many pubs, but dont underestimate the power of the feckless landlord or landlady.

So she thinks fans who watch games on the TV in her pub should have teh same ticket access as those who have paid £200 upfront to watch City without ever imagining the prospect of this final? Get real!
In these days of ticket touts and premium re-selling sites, what makes her think that she would be able to walk up and buy 55 tickets for this match without being properly registered by the Football League or the FA? or at least getting in touch with the club before taking people's money? A lot of people rightly blame cheap supermarket booze prices and the smoking ban for the sorry closure of many pubs, but dont underestimate the power of the feckless landlord or landlady. So she thinks fans who watch games on the TV in her pub should have teh same ticket access as those who have paid £200 upfront to watch City without ever imagining the prospect of this final? Get real! Old Dave
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8:12am Wed 30 Jan 13

webess says...

To be fair questions needs to be asked of the ticket allocation at Wembley.

The ground holds 90,000 - yet us and the Swans are getting just over 30,000 each. Where are the rest going?
To be fair questions needs to be asked of the ticket allocation at Wembley. The ground holds 90,000 - yet us and the Swans are getting just over 30,000 each. Where are the rest going? webess
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8:19am Wed 30 Jan 13

Thee Voice of Reason says...

40 have been following this run since the Wigan game.
Thats dedication for you, turning up when we draw premiership sides.
How many of these 40 were in the crowd when we played Burton Albion?
Sorry but no sympathy a flexicard which would have secured 3 tickets were on sale in August for the price of an Aston Villa ticket that these people suddenly could afford along with Wembley tickets and travel they can suddenly afford.
40 have been following this run since the Wigan game. Thats dedication for you, turning up when we draw premiership sides. How many of these 40 were in the crowd when we played Burton Albion? Sorry but no sympathy a flexicard which would have secured 3 tickets were on sale in August for the price of an Aston Villa ticket that these people suddenly could afford along with Wembley tickets and travel they can suddenly afford. Thee Voice of Reason
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8:21am Wed 30 Jan 13

Bantam_eccy says...

webess wrote:
To be fair questions needs to be asked of the ticket allocation at Wembley.

The ground holds 90,000 - yet us and the Swans are getting just over 30,000 each. Where are the rest going?
The other 30isk K go to corporate sponsors, the football league associates & most of it is owned by people who bought Wembley season tickets, which gives them access to everything that goes off at Wembley (these cost a fortune). Everyone has known since day one that ST holders always get first dibs. It's not like she's been mis-led.
[quote][p][bold]webess[/bold] wrote: To be fair questions needs to be asked of the ticket allocation at Wembley. The ground holds 90,000 - yet us and the Swans are getting just over 30,000 each. Where are the rest going?[/p][/quote]The other 30isk K go to corporate sponsors, the football league associates & most of it is owned by people who bought Wembley season tickets, which gives them access to everything that goes off at Wembley (these cost a fortune). Everyone has known since day one that ST holders always get first dibs. It's not like she's been mis-led. Bantam_eccy
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8:25am Wed 30 Jan 13

nowt fresh says...

What planet do some of these people live on?? lets organise a jolly up for Wembley for my customers oh wait we may not be able to get tickets as fans who have season tickets for 2012/2013 have first choice because they have put their money on the line before a ball was kicked :-((.
What planet do some of these people live on?? lets organise a jolly up for Wembley for my customers oh wait we may not be able to get tickets as fans who have season tickets for 2012/2013 have first choice because they have put their money on the line before a ball was kicked :-((. nowt fresh
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8:40am Wed 30 Jan 13

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Why is this news.
Fans jump on bandwagon but have to wait whilst season ticket holders get their allocation first.
Thats not news.
Are they suggesting they have as much right as the 10000 who bought season tickets and turn up every week to watch crap like fleetwood and acrington?
Why is this news. Fans jump on bandwagon but have to wait whilst season ticket holders get their allocation first. Thats not news. Are they suggesting they have as much right as the 10000 who bought season tickets and turn up every week to watch crap like fleetwood and acrington? Thee Voice of Reason
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8:55am Wed 30 Jan 13

Old Peculiar says...

If a few of the 55 pub regulars, WERE REGULARS AT VALLEY PARADE, there wouldn't be a problem.
Season ticket holders get priority, exactly as it should be - end of story.

For what its worth, I've no doubts there will be around 4,000 spares after the season ticket holders have taken their allocation. Maybe Mrs Johnstone could start queuing up at the ticket office now, to ensure that her 55 regulars get first shot..........
If a few of the 55 pub regulars, WERE REGULARS AT VALLEY PARADE, there wouldn't be a problem. Season ticket holders get priority, exactly as it should be - end of story. For what its worth, I've no doubts there will be around 4,000 spares after the season ticket holders have taken their allocation. Maybe Mrs Johnstone could start queuing up at the ticket office now, to ensure that her 55 regulars get first shot.......... Old Peculiar
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9:02am Wed 30 Jan 13

kellyh1981 says...

Season Ticket holders nearly always get priority in most sports as they pay in advance to watch the team week in and week out. There will be tickets left over, but it is fait that the people that keep the club going every season get 1st opportunity to get the tickets they want.
Season Ticket holders nearly always get priority in most sports as they pay in advance to watch the team week in and week out. There will be tickets left over, but it is fait that the people that keep the club going every season get 1st opportunity to get the tickets they want. kellyh1981
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9:05am Wed 30 Jan 13

BigFigure says...

What a numpty....
What a numpty.... BigFigure
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9:17am Wed 30 Jan 13

angry bradfordian says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Why is this news.
Fans jump on bandwagon but have to wait whilst season ticket holders get their allocation first.
Thats not news.
Are they suggesting they have as much right as the 10000 who bought season tickets and turn up every week to watch crap like fleetwood and acrington?
This is one of the few examples where supporting a lower league team is an advantage.
When the Premier League teams get to a cup final you've got to have been to at least 4 or 5 AWAY games to qualify for a ticket and having a season ticket isn't enough.

I feel sorry for the regulars at Valley Parade who are having some of their deserved glory taken away by these part time supporters.
It's amazing how many people are claiming to be fans who used to go all the time despite the fact the average home crowd is the same of higher than it has been for the last 10 years!
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: Why is this news. Fans jump on bandwagon but have to wait whilst season ticket holders get their allocation first. Thats not news. Are they suggesting they have as much right as the 10000 who bought season tickets and turn up every week to watch crap like fleetwood and acrington?[/p][/quote]This is one of the few examples where supporting a lower league team is an advantage. When the Premier League teams get to a cup final you've got to have been to at least 4 or 5 AWAY games to qualify for a ticket and having a season ticket isn't enough. I feel sorry for the regulars at Valley Parade who are having some of their deserved glory taken away by these part time supporters. It's amazing how many people are claiming to be fans who used to go all the time despite the fact the average home crowd is the same of higher than it has been for the last 10 years! angry bradfordian
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9:20am Wed 30 Jan 13

Rambo says...

"Around 40 from here have been following the cup run from the Wigan game."
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That line alone shows why you have to wait until after everyone else.
.
Come on everyone, we have to make way for these MASSIVE fans....
"Around 40 from here have been following the cup run from the Wigan game." . That line alone shows why you have to wait until after everyone else. . Come on everyone, we have to make way for these MASSIVE fans.... Rambo
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9:35am Wed 30 Jan 13

oreilly.john.1990@googlemail.com says...

This is completely wrong, people who have either a season ticket/flexicard can buy upto 3, most will buy 3 and flog the spares, so that totals 27,000 of the 32,000 tickets, and because I start work at half 8 I wont be able to get the chance to try and buy one of the remaining 5000 tickets untils my lunch hour that day, it wouldn't surprise me if the 5000 tickets sold out in the first hour or two with so many people wanting to go to the game.
This is completely wrong, people who have either a season ticket/flexicard can buy upto 3, most will buy 3 and flog the spares, so that totals 27,000 of the 32,000 tickets, and because I start work at half 8 I wont be able to get the chance to try and buy one of the remaining 5000 tickets untils my lunch hour that day, it wouldn't surprise me if the 5000 tickets sold out in the first hour or two with so many people wanting to go to the game. oreilly.john.1990@googlemail.com
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9:43am Wed 30 Jan 13

Thee Voice of Reason says...

oreilly.john.1990@go
oglemail.com
wrote:
This is completely wrong, people who have either a season ticket/flexicard can buy upto 3, most will buy 3 and flog the spares, so that totals 27,000 of the 32,000 tickets, and because I start work at half 8 I wont be able to get the chance to try and buy one of the remaining 5000 tickets untils my lunch hour that day, it wouldn't surprise me if the 5000 tickets sold out in the first hour or two with so many people wanting to go to the game.
Take the day off work, find a season ticket holder, get someone else to queue for you, or buy a flexicard for £50.

I have more sympathy for those who live around the country who don't have season tickets who want tickets than those who live on the doorstep of Valley Parade and make excuses.
[quote][p][bold]oreilly.john.1990@go oglemail.com[/bold] wrote: This is completely wrong, people who have either a season ticket/flexicard can buy upto 3, most will buy 3 and flog the spares, so that totals 27,000 of the 32,000 tickets, and because I start work at half 8 I wont be able to get the chance to try and buy one of the remaining 5000 tickets untils my lunch hour that day, it wouldn't surprise me if the 5000 tickets sold out in the first hour or two with so many people wanting to go to the game.[/p][/quote]Take the day off work, find a season ticket holder, get someone else to queue for you, or buy a flexicard for £50. I have more sympathy for those who live around the country who don't have season tickets who want tickets than those who live on the doorstep of Valley Parade and make excuses. Thee Voice of Reason
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9:44am Wed 30 Jan 13

Old Peculiar says...

oreilly.john.1990@go
oglemail.com
wrote:
This is completely wrong, people who have either a season ticket/flexicard can buy upto 3, most will buy 3 and flog the spares, so that totals 27,000 of the 32,000 tickets, and because I start work at half 8 I wont be able to get the chance to try and buy one of the remaining 5000 tickets untils my lunch hour that day, it wouldn't surprise me if the 5000 tickets sold out in the first hour or two with so many people wanting to go to the game.
The 50/50 ticket would have cost you just £50............
[quote][p][bold]oreilly.john.1990@go oglemail.com[/bold] wrote: This is completely wrong, people who have either a season ticket/flexicard can buy upto 3, most will buy 3 and flog the spares, so that totals 27,000 of the 32,000 tickets, and because I start work at half 8 I wont be able to get the chance to try and buy one of the remaining 5000 tickets untils my lunch hour that day, it wouldn't surprise me if the 5000 tickets sold out in the first hour or two with so many people wanting to go to the game.[/p][/quote]The 50/50 ticket would have cost you just £50............ Old Peculiar
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9:46am Wed 30 Jan 13

Wibsey1 says...

If you can't afford a season ticket upfront you do have the option of the payment plan and you can spread the cost over the season, for the first time in years i couldn't pay upfront because of tight finances so took this option. just saying there are ways to secure a season ticket even if money is tight.
If you can't afford a season ticket upfront you do have the option of the payment plan and you can spread the cost over the season, for the first time in years i couldn't pay upfront because of tight finances so took this option. just saying there are ways to secure a season ticket even if money is tight. Wibsey1
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9:50am Wed 30 Jan 13

Old Dave says...

I am a season ticket holder, as are my three sons aged 3,7, and 9. We've bought them all season tickets since they were two years old, and attend every match. We've seen some rubbish I can tell you. I pay £220 quid for the privilege of watching 4th division fare week in week out. (that works out at £4.20 a week - less that two pints or a packet of fags!) But my God its worth it when days like today come.

What "I've followed them but had to make cutbacks" translates as is: " I went to some games in the the prem, and the last time we went to Wembley"

If everyone had only gone to the big matches only, there would be no club now!

I bet this is the same people who were massive BUlls fans until they stopped getting to finals too!

At least proper loyalty is rewarded inh this case!
I am a season ticket holder, as are my three sons aged 3,7, and 9. We've bought them all season tickets since they were two years old, and attend every match. We've seen some rubbish I can tell you. I pay £220 quid for the privilege of watching 4th division fare week in week out. (that works out at £4.20 a week - less that two pints or a packet of fags!) But my God its worth it when days like today come. What "I've followed them but had to make cutbacks" translates as is: " I went to some games in the the prem, and the last time we went to Wembley" If everyone had only gone to the big matches only, there would be no club now! I bet this is the same people who were massive BUlls fans until they stopped getting to finals too! At least proper loyalty is rewarded inh this case! Old Dave
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9:55am Wed 30 Jan 13

Joedavid says...

Sounds right to me those who have a season ticket should have a Wembley ticket if they wish to travel. Also it sounds as if other regulars at Valley Parade can buy if they wish. I hope all who attend VP get a chance and get one.
Then I hope a fair way is employed to sell the rest if there are any on a 1 or 2 per applicant, in which case Mrs. Johnston would have to get her customers to get their own then she can book a coach and hotel.
*
The whole of Bradford is thrilled with Bradford City's achievement and we all behind them even though football fans.
Sounds right to me those who have a season ticket should have a Wembley ticket if they wish to travel. Also it sounds as if other regulars at Valley Parade can buy if they wish. I hope all who attend VP get a chance and get one. Then I hope a fair way is employed to sell the rest if there are any on a 1 or 2 per applicant, in which case Mrs. Johnston would have to get her customers to get their own then she can book a coach and hotel. * The whole of Bradford is thrilled with Bradford City's achievement and we all behind them even though football fans. Joedavid
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10:00am Wed 30 Jan 13

Rambo says...

"Mrs. Johnston would have to get her customers to get their own then she can book a coach and hotel."

Thats what most of the travel companies are doing - selling day/overnight trips but specifically saying YOU buy your match ticket.

If she was foolish enough to think she could just strut up on day one and buy 55 tickets (still laughing at that) then it shows how daft she is.
"Mrs. Johnston would have to get her customers to get their own then she can book a coach and hotel." Thats what most of the travel companies are doing - selling day/overnight trips but specifically saying YOU buy your match ticket. If she was foolish enough to think she could just strut up on day one and buy 55 tickets (still laughing at that) then it shows how daft she is. Rambo
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10:06am Wed 30 Jan 13

OutOfBradford says...

8451 season ticket holders.

3 each = 25353 tickets.

31851 allocation

Remainder: 6498 tickets.

And that's if every Season Ticket holder buys all three of their allocation. Which they won't.

Not sure why the panic. PLENTY of tickets to go around for both Season Ticket holders and none season ticket holders.

I reckon they'll be 7k-8k left over when they go on General Sale.

Having said that, this woman's a bit of a mentalist if she thought she would just walk up to the ticket office and buy 55 tickets to herself! I don't even know where to begin with that!
8451 season ticket holders. 3 each = 25353 tickets. 31851 allocation Remainder: 6498 tickets. And that's if every Season Ticket holder buys all three of their allocation. Which they won't. Not sure why the panic. PLENTY of tickets to go around for both Season Ticket holders and none season ticket holders. I reckon they'll be 7k-8k left over when they go on General Sale. Having said that, this woman's a bit of a mentalist if she thought she would just walk up to the ticket office and buy 55 tickets to herself! I don't even know where to begin with that! OutOfBradford
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10:09am Wed 30 Jan 13

beardedclam says...

Assuming that the season ticket holders buy all their allocation, even if it's to mnake a quick buck (which they will), that will leave at least 4000-5000 tickets still available.
So the bar wench need not worry, as long as she is willing to queue nwith some of her patrons very early in the morning, she will get them. The moll needs to realise that on general sale they will probably be limited to 2 per person.
Assuming that the season ticket holders buy all their allocation, even if it's to mnake a quick buck (which they will), that will leave at least 4000-5000 tickets still available. So the bar wench need not worry, as long as she is willing to queue nwith some of her patrons very early in the morning, she will get them. The moll needs to realise that on general sale they will probably be limited to 2 per person. beardedclam
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10:16am Wed 30 Jan 13

RuggerTyke says...

CHEAP STUNT TO TRY AND GET TICKETS!
CHEAP STUNT TO TRY AND GET TICKETS! RuggerTyke
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10:29am Wed 30 Jan 13

RuggerTyke says...

OutOfBradford wrote:
8451 season ticket holders.

3 each = 25353 tickets.

31851 allocation

Remainder: 6498 tickets.

And that's if every Season Ticket holder buys all three of their allocation. Which they won't.

Not sure why the panic. PLENTY of tickets to go around for both Season Ticket holders and none season ticket holders.

I reckon they'll be 7k-8k left over when they go on General Sale.

Having said that, this woman's a bit of a mentalist if she thought she would just walk up to the ticket office and buy 55 tickets to herself! I don't even know where to begin with that!
+ Flexis
[quote][p][bold]OutOfBradford[/bold] wrote: 8451 season ticket holders. 3 each = 25353 tickets. 31851 allocation Remainder: 6498 tickets. And that's if every Season Ticket holder buys all three of their allocation. Which they won't. Not sure why the panic. PLENTY of tickets to go around for both Season Ticket holders and none season ticket holders. I reckon they'll be 7k-8k left over when they go on General Sale. Having said that, this woman's a bit of a mentalist if she thought she would just walk up to the ticket office and buy 55 tickets to herself! I don't even know where to begin with that![/p][/quote]+ Flexis RuggerTyke
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11:01am Wed 30 Jan 13

bcfc1903 says...

Including ST/ flexi's i've heard David Baldwin say the club had nearer 10,000 holders of both. Regarding folk who haven't got either...i think there will be a good 5 or 6,000 left. Of the nine season tickets and flexi's we've got throughout our extended family in England and Ireland ..which gives us the opportunity to buy 27 tickets... we're actually purchasing nineteen...so don't panic...

**

We shout with pride...we'll never hide...Claret and Amber!!!!!
Including ST/ flexi's i've heard David Baldwin say the club had nearer 10,000 holders of both. Regarding folk who haven't got either...i think there will be a good 5 or 6,000 left. Of the nine season tickets and flexi's we've got throughout our extended family in England and Ireland ..which gives us the opportunity to buy 27 tickets... we're actually purchasing nineteen...so don't panic... ** We shout with pride...we'll never hide...Claret and Amber!!!!! bcfc1903
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11:06am Wed 30 Jan 13

BigFigure says...

Still laughing at this! And sounds like she booked the coach and hotel on a non-refundable basis....a right piecan!
Still laughing at this! And sounds like she booked the coach and hotel on a non-refundable basis....a right piecan! BigFigure
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11:14am Wed 30 Jan 13

Thee Voice of Reason says...

“Just because people aren’t season ticket holders doesn’t mean they’re not fans.”

True, but why should they be given priortity over fans who turn up week in week out to support the club. They are where they are, at the back of the queue where they deserve to be.
“Just because people aren’t season ticket holders doesn’t mean they’re not fans.” True, but why should they be given priortity over fans who turn up week in week out to support the club. They are where they are, at the back of the queue where they deserve to be. Thee Voice of Reason
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11:27am Wed 30 Jan 13

Hockens Hey says...

Lets not forget that a major selling point of season tickets for any club, is that they guarantee you preferential treatment regarding away tickets and cup tickets. They always have done and always will do.
Lets not forget that a major selling point of season tickets for any club, is that they guarantee you preferential treatment regarding away tickets and cup tickets. They always have done and always will do. Hockens Hey
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12:13pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Sandy lane bantam says...

I take it she knows that the league cup started 3 rounds before Wigan?! That statement alone proves they should be back of the queue.

Getting a little sick of bandwagon jumpers now!
I take it she knows that the league cup started 3 rounds before Wigan?! That statement alone proves they should be back of the queue. Getting a little sick of bandwagon jumpers now! Sandy lane bantam
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12:21pm Wed 30 Jan 13

RonnieRhino says...

Funny very funny!
What does she expect really? I've no idea why she'd go to the local press either? Sympathy perhaps.

Give over.

Flexi Cards costs £25 for the season anyone who didn't get one and is moaning now well I'm sorry but I don't have any sympathy for you either.
Funny very funny! What does she expect really? I've no idea why she'd go to the local press either? Sympathy perhaps. Give over. Flexi Cards costs £25 for the season anyone who didn't get one and is moaning now well I'm sorry but I don't have any sympathy for you either. RonnieRhino
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12:26pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Rich73 says...

proper comedy this story, them 40 "loyal" fans surely deserve tickets
proper comedy this story, them 40 "loyal" fans surely deserve tickets Rich73
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12:41pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Rambo says...

Rich73 wrote:
proper comedy this story, them 40 "loyal" fans surely deserve tickets
Lets start a Facebook page and get a millionl likes, lets send donations. Hell, lets send our tickets to these poor sods.

Come on everyone, GET THE 55 to WEMBLEY!
[quote][p][bold]Rich73[/bold] wrote: proper comedy this story, them 40 "loyal" fans surely deserve tickets[/p][/quote]Lets start a Facebook page and get a millionl likes, lets send donations. Hell, lets send our tickets to these poor sods. Come on everyone, GET THE 55 to WEMBLEY! Rambo
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12:46pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Rambo wrote:
Rich73 wrote: proper comedy this story, them 40 "loyal" fans surely deserve tickets
Lets start a Facebook page and get a millionl likes, lets send donations. Hell, lets send our tickets to these poor sods. Come on everyone, GET THE 55 to WEMBLEY!
These poor soles have suffer and deserve tickets.

The near heartbreak of beating Wigan and Arsenal on penalties and having to sit through a 3-1 win against Villa before pulling off a miracle to reach wembley.

These fans have really been though the ringer.

Sod the season ticket holders who sat though the 0-0 against Chesterfield and the defeats to powerhouses such as Exeter and Oxford. These 55 in the story are the ones who deserve first choice, not those glory season ticket holders.
[quote][p][bold]Rambo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rich73[/bold] wrote: proper comedy this story, them 40 "loyal" fans surely deserve tickets[/p][/quote]Lets start a Facebook page and get a millionl likes, lets send donations. Hell, lets send our tickets to these poor sods. Come on everyone, GET THE 55 to WEMBLEY![/p][/quote]These poor soles have suffer and deserve tickets. The near heartbreak of beating Wigan and Arsenal on penalties and having to sit through a 3-1 win against Villa before pulling off a miracle to reach wembley. These fans have really been though the ringer. Sod the season ticket holders who sat though the 0-0 against Chesterfield and the defeats to powerhouses such as Exeter and Oxford. These 55 in the story are the ones who deserve first choice, not those glory season ticket holders. Thee Voice of Reason
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1:04pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Rambo says...

Who gives a monkeys about Exeter and Oxford? They're not important...

-----

You know after reading again what is this woman trying to do? Blame the club for her own stupidity? Trying to make a quick buck and it backfired?

"if tickets do not go on general sale."
Well they are, you would have known if you'd taken 5 minutes to read the website or a paper, or find out from one of these amazing 40 fans. She only found out about the ticketing system last night? Does she even know what shape a football is?

This story just stinks of woman realises how stupid she has been, tries to blame everyone else. God knows what she thought she could achieve by going to the local paper. Charity?

And according to the article she started taking payment "as soon as the bantams secured their spot". Were they all drunk?
Who gives a monkeys about Exeter and Oxford? They're not important... ----- You know after reading again what is this woman trying to do? Blame the club for her own stupidity? Trying to make a quick buck and it backfired? "if tickets do not go on general sale." Well they are, you would have known if you'd taken 5 minutes to read the website or a paper, or find out from one of these amazing 40 fans. She only found out about the ticketing system last night? Does she even know what shape a football is? This story just stinks of woman realises how stupid she has been, tries to blame everyone else. God knows what she thought she could achieve by going to the local paper. Charity? And according to the article she started taking payment "as soon as the bantams secured their spot". Were they all drunk? Rambo
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1:20pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Rambo wrote:
Who gives a monkeys about Exeter and Oxford? They're not important... ----- You know after reading again what is this woman trying to do? Blame the club for her own stupidity? Trying to make a quick buck and it backfired? "if tickets do not go on general sale." Well they are, you would have known if you'd taken 5 minutes to read the website or a paper, or find out from one of these amazing 40 fans. She only found out about the ticketing system last night? Does she even know what shape a football is? This story just stinks of woman realises how stupid she has been, tries to blame everyone else. God knows what she thought she could achieve by going to the local paper. Charity? And according to the article she started taking payment "as soon as the bantams secured their spot". Were they all drunk?
You'd have thought she would have waited for her regulars to get back from Villa Park before taking bookings ;)
[quote][p][bold]Rambo[/bold] wrote: Who gives a monkeys about Exeter and Oxford? They're not important... ----- You know after reading again what is this woman trying to do? Blame the club for her own stupidity? Trying to make a quick buck and it backfired? "if tickets do not go on general sale." Well they are, you would have known if you'd taken 5 minutes to read the website or a paper, or find out from one of these amazing 40 fans. She only found out about the ticketing system last night? Does she even know what shape a football is? This story just stinks of woman realises how stupid she has been, tries to blame everyone else. God knows what she thought she could achieve by going to the local paper. Charity? And according to the article she started taking payment "as soon as the bantams secured their spot". Were they all drunk?[/p][/quote]You'd have thought she would have waited for her regulars to get back from Villa Park before taking bookings ;) Thee Voice of Reason
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1:22pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Rich73 says...

just pray the 40 loyal supporters get their tickets & not the 15 who have jumped on the bandwagon
just pray the 40 loyal supporters get their tickets & not the 15 who have jumped on the bandwagon Rich73
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1:27pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Rambo says...

Rich73 wrote:
just pray the 40 loyal supporters get their tickets & not the 15 who have jumped on the bandwagon
Are you serious or being massively sarcastic?

If serious it says these 40 "have been following the cup run from the Wigan game". Loyal my backside.
[quote][p][bold]Rich73[/bold] wrote: just pray the 40 loyal supporters get their tickets & not the 15 who have jumped on the bandwagon[/p][/quote]Are you serious or being massively sarcastic? If serious it says these 40 "have been following the cup run from the Wigan game". Loyal my backside. Rambo
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1:29pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Rich73 says...

I'm being sarcastic
I'm being sarcastic Rich73
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1:34pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Rambo says...

Rich73 wrote:
I'm being sarcastic
Phew. Had to check.
[quote][p][bold]Rich73[/bold] wrote: I'm being sarcastic[/p][/quote]Phew. Had to check. Rambo
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1:35pm Wed 30 Jan 13

kellyh1981 says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
“Just because people aren’t season ticket holders doesn’t mean they’re not fans.”

True, but why should they be given priortity over fans who turn up week in week out to support the club. They are where they are, at the back of the queue where they deserve to be.
If you're there every week in and week out, you'd buy a season ticket because it's cheaper!!
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: “Just because people aren’t season ticket holders doesn’t mean they’re not fans.” True, but why should they be given priortity over fans who turn up week in week out to support the club. They are where they are, at the back of the queue where they deserve to be.[/p][/quote]If you're there every week in and week out, you'd buy a season ticket because it's cheaper!! kellyh1981
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1:40pm Wed 30 Jan 13

The Hump says...

Just to let Maggie and the regulars of the Second West pub know Bradford City are the team in Claret & Amber.
Just to let Maggie and the regulars of the Second West pub know Bradford City are the team in Claret & Amber. The Hump
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1:42pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Bingban says...

C'mon Hannah isnt it the Second West pub? Where does this storey come from. Guess after these comments Ms Johnson aint so keen on coming forward with a correction
C'mon Hannah isnt it the Second West pub? Where does this storey come from. Guess after these comments Ms Johnson aint so keen on coming forward with a correction Bingban
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1:47pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Well I have my tickets now for the final, seems having a season ticket pays off.
Well I have my tickets now for the final, seems having a season ticket pays off. Thee Voice of Reason
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1:51pm Wed 30 Jan 13

bantam style says...

Bradford city at wembley in the cup final is historic and the fact that there giving 3 tickets per season ticket holder is bang out of order some will be taking any tom dick n harry with them for a day out n to fill seats. When real fans who dont have tickets due to work or money who cant afford season tickets but can afford to pay on a weekly basis will be watching on telly. I agree SUPPORT THE 55
Bradford city at wembley in the cup final is historic and the fact that there giving 3 tickets per season ticket holder is bang out of order some will be taking any tom dick n harry with them for a day out n to fill seats. When real fans who dont have tickets due to work or money who cant afford season tickets but can afford to pay on a weekly basis will be watching on telly. I agree SUPPORT THE 55 bantam style
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1:56pm Wed 30 Jan 13

BigFigure says...

Bingban wrote:
C'mon Hannah isnt it the Second West pub? Where does this storey come from. Guess after these comments Ms Johnson aint so keen on coming forward with a correction
Says Second West in photo caption....but typos can happen to anyone, can't they,dear chap ;)
[quote][p][bold]Bingban[/bold] wrote: C'mon Hannah isnt it the Second West pub? Where does this storey come from. Guess after these comments Ms Johnson aint so keen on coming forward with a correction[/p][/quote]Says Second West in photo caption....but typos can happen to anyone, can't they,dear chap ;) BigFigure
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1:59pm Wed 30 Jan 13

BENSMUM says...

Wonder how many of these loyal supporters are actually even
going to know who the players are. I suggest they watch the match from the cosiness of the pub, where they have been all year.

Preferential treatment to those who have season tickets/flex cards etc...ABSOLUTELY. Well done City
Wonder how many of these loyal supporters are actually even going to know who the players are. I suggest they watch the match from the cosiness of the pub, where they have been all year. Preferential treatment to those who have season tickets/flex cards etc...ABSOLUTELY. Well done City BENSMUM
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2:46pm Wed 30 Jan 13

theoutsider says...

Has to be the daftest of ALL the daft 'I am a deserving City fan' pleas ! I have heard. Its simple buy a season ticket/flexi and support your club and then you would'nt be looking like a lemon !

A cast iron case for bringing a Leeds fan with you on your spares !
Has to be the daftest of ALL the daft 'I am a deserving City fan' pleas ! I have heard. Its simple buy a season ticket/flexi and support your club and then you would'nt be looking like a lemon ! A cast iron case for bringing a Leeds fan with you on your spares ! theoutsider
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3:23pm Wed 30 Jan 13

flapper1 says...

So fed up with people putting their sob stories in press and facebook hoping someone is gonna feel sorry for them then say ok you can have 55 tickets or whatever.So thick to book coaches and hotels without match tickets.
So fed up with people putting their sob stories in press and facebook hoping someone is gonna feel sorry for them then say ok you can have 55 tickets or whatever.So thick to book coaches and hotels without match tickets. flapper1
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3:34pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Peter300 says...

flapper1 wrote:
So fed up with people putting their sob stories in press and facebook hoping someone is gonna feel sorry for them then say ok you can have 55 tickets or whatever.So thick to book coaches and hotels without match tickets.
This silly woman deserves no sympathy. Why are the T&A giving this individual publicity?
[quote][p][bold]flapper1[/bold] wrote: So fed up with people putting their sob stories in press and facebook hoping someone is gonna feel sorry for them then say ok you can have 55 tickets or whatever.So thick to book coaches and hotels without match tickets.[/p][/quote]This silly woman deserves no sympathy. Why are the T&A giving this individual publicity? Peter300
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3:35pm Wed 30 Jan 13

proxymoron says...

I haven't had a season ticket for the last three years due to wanting to spend more time with my young daughter on Saturdays as I have a demanding job that means I don't see too much of her in the week, and I completely agree with the club's decision to only sell to Season Ticket/Flexi holders first - they're the people who come week in, week out - they should not be the ones worrying about whether they get a Wembley ticket or not.

If there are any left for general sale, and I manage to get one, then great. If I don't, then I hope the 32000 that do have a great day out and bring the cup back for all the rest of us!
I haven't had a season ticket for the last three years due to wanting to spend more time with my young daughter on Saturdays as I have a demanding job that means I don't see too much of her in the week, and I completely agree with the club's decision to only sell to Season Ticket/Flexi holders first - they're the people who come week in, week out - they should not be the ones worrying about whether they get a Wembley ticket or not. If there are any left for general sale, and I manage to get one, then great. If I don't, then I hope the 32000 that do have a great day out and bring the cup back for all the rest of us! proxymoron
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4:01pm Wed 30 Jan 13

thebantammenace says...

bantam style wrote:
Bradford city at wembley in the cup final is historic and the fact that there giving 3 tickets per season ticket holder is bang out of order some will be taking any tom dick n harry with them for a day out n to fill seats. When real fans who dont have tickets due to work or money who cant afford season tickets but can afford to pay on a weekly basis will be watching on telly. I agree SUPPORT THE 55
Are you seriously telling me you don't know someone with a season ticket?! Who would be complaining if they had gone on general sale straight away, then ebay became awash with touts selling them on?! The way the club have gone about this is spot on. All of a sudden folks who couldn't give a stuff about City are wanting to join in. And - lets not forget - this is not just season ticket holders its open to, Flexi-Card holders are eligible also.
These stay away City fans make me sick when it comes to jumping back when the times are good. Don't forget a few years ago we made one of our home games FREE!!! Still couldn't fill the stadium because of the apathetic stay away mob.
Repay the ST and FlexiCard holders?! **** RIGHT!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]bantam style[/bold] wrote: Bradford city at wembley in the cup final is historic and the fact that there giving 3 tickets per season ticket holder is bang out of order some will be taking any tom dick n harry with them for a day out n to fill seats. When real fans who dont have tickets due to work or money who cant afford season tickets but can afford to pay on a weekly basis will be watching on telly. I agree SUPPORT THE 55[/p][/quote]Are you seriously telling me you don't know someone with a season ticket?! Who would be complaining if they had gone on general sale straight away, then ebay became awash with touts selling them on?! The way the club have gone about this is spot on. All of a sudden folks who couldn't give a stuff about City are wanting to join in. And - lets not forget - this is not just season ticket holders its open to, Flexi-Card holders are eligible also. These stay away City fans make me sick when it comes to jumping back when the times are good. Don't forget a few years ago we made one of our home games FREE!!! Still couldn't fill the stadium because of the apathetic stay away mob. Repay the ST and FlexiCard holders?! **** RIGHT!!!!! thebantammenace
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4:02pm Wed 30 Jan 13

fatbloke says...

UNLUCKY :-)
UNLUCKY :-) fatbloke
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4:11pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Rich73 says...

think the club have got the ticketing arrangements spot on, guess they will be best part of 5,000 available once they go on general sale, hope people more worthy than these 55 get their hands on them first
think the club have got the ticketing arrangements spot on, guess they will be best part of 5,000 available once they go on general sale, hope people more worthy than these 55 get their hands on them first Rich73
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4:19pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Bantam abroad says...

Well I'm in the same boat as her. No season ticket (I live in Ireland) but have no sympathy for any of them.

If they can afford to go to Wigan, Arsenal, Villa x 2 they could have easily afforded a season ticket or flexicard.

Hope I get my ticket before these lads. At least I've a good excuse.
Well I'm in the same boat as her. No season ticket (I live in Ireland) but have no sympathy for any of them. If they can afford to go to Wigan, Arsenal, Villa x 2 they could have easily afforded a season ticket or flexicard. Hope I get my ticket before these lads. At least I've a good excuse. Bantam abroad
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4:22pm Wed 30 Jan 13

PaddyBantam says...

Correct this woman is obviously deluded.

What has stood out for me since City made it to the final is the incredible attitudes of the average City fan or is it the average T&A reader, all i have been able to take from it is the people are all about me, its me me me, what about me, i deserve it, he does not. What should be a time of enjoyment has only served to bring out the selfish disgusting nature of certain City 'fans', to be honest reading some of these comments not just on this thread but on others too have made me feel sick and angry, i'm just hoping that if ever there was a crisis that involved a life and death situation, that i am not in the company of certain city fans or T&A readers with their i'm alright jack and everyone for themselves attitude or the me myself and I. I agree the season/flexi holders should get priority, but don't believe they should get three tickets, why should they? should it not be one ticket or maybe two, but why three?

For those who don't have a ticket as some have said there will be no doubt be around 4,5 or 6k available for general sale on a first come first served basis, once the me myself and I brigade have their tickets of course.

From being proud about the achievement of City i'm now slightly embarrassed about my fellow Bradfordians attitudes towards ticket allocations and who does or doesn't deserve a ticket
Correct this woman is obviously deluded. What has stood out for me since City made it to the final is the incredible attitudes of the average City fan or is it the average T&A reader, all i have been able to take from it is the people are all about me, its me me me, what about me, i deserve it, he does not. What should be a time of enjoyment has only served to bring out the selfish disgusting nature of certain City 'fans', to be honest reading some of these comments not just on this thread but on others too have made me feel sick and angry, i'm just hoping that if ever there was a crisis that involved a life and death situation, that i am not in the company of certain city fans or T&A readers with their i'm alright jack and everyone for themselves attitude or the me myself and I. I agree the season/flexi holders should get priority, but don't believe they should get three tickets, why should they? should it not be one ticket or maybe two, but why three? For those who don't have a ticket as some have said there will be no doubt be around 4,5 or 6k available for general sale on a first come first served basis, once the me myself and I brigade have their tickets of course. From being proud about the achievement of City i'm now slightly embarrassed about my fellow Bradfordians attitudes towards ticket allocations and who does or doesn't deserve a ticket PaddyBantam
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4:30pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Plastic Bantam says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
Including ST/ flexi's i've heard David Baldwin say the club had nearer 10,000 holders of both. Regarding folk who haven't got either...i think there will be a good 5 or 6,000 left. Of the nine season tickets and flexi's we've got throughout our extended family in England and Ireland ..which gives us the opportunity to buy 27 tickets... we're actually purchasing nineteen...so don't panic...

**

We shout with pride...we'll never hide...Claret and Amber!!!!!
Get another 4 & I'll buy them off you!!! Ha ha
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Including ST/ flexi's i've heard David Baldwin say the club had nearer 10,000 holders of both. Regarding folk who haven't got either...i think there will be a good 5 or 6,000 left. Of the nine season tickets and flexi's we've got throughout our extended family in England and Ireland ..which gives us the opportunity to buy 27 tickets... we're actually purchasing nineteen...so don't panic... ** We shout with pride...we'll never hide...Claret and Amber!!!!![/p][/quote]Get another 4 & I'll buy them off you!!! Ha ha Plastic Bantam
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4:32pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Chillum Bantam says...

I can’t stop laughing, oh No! Me bladder!
I can’t stop laughing, oh No! Me bladder! Chillum Bantam
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4:33pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Rambo says...

bantam style wrote:
Bradford city at wembley in the cup final is historic and the fact that there giving 3 tickets per season ticket holder is bang out of order some will be taking any tom dick n harry with them for a day out n to fill seats. When real fans who dont have tickets due to work or money who cant afford season tickets but can afford to pay on a weekly basis will be watching on telly. I agree SUPPORT THE 55
You know when I said SUPPORT THE 55 I was being more sarcastic than I had ever been in my entire life?

And like I said on the other thread about ticket sales, I believe the 3 per ST deal is due to Wembley and the Football League pressuring City into it.
[quote][p][bold]bantam style[/bold] wrote: Bradford city at wembley in the cup final is historic and the fact that there giving 3 tickets per season ticket holder is bang out of order some will be taking any tom dick n harry with them for a day out n to fill seats. When real fans who dont have tickets due to work or money who cant afford season tickets but can afford to pay on a weekly basis will be watching on telly. I agree SUPPORT THE 55[/p][/quote]You know when I said SUPPORT THE 55 I was being more sarcastic than I had ever been in my entire life? And like I said on the other thread about ticket sales, I believe the 3 per ST deal is due to Wembley and the Football League pressuring City into it. Rambo
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4:55pm Wed 30 Jan 13

huxley1 says...

I'd like to bet that on the day there are at least 100 empty seats.
I'd like to bet that on the day there are at least 100 empty seats. huxley1
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4:57pm Wed 30 Jan 13

huxley1 says...

actually I meant 1000 and I think I'm being conservative.
actually I meant 1000 and I think I'm being conservative. huxley1
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5:12pm Wed 30 Jan 13

joeybcfc says...

PaddyBantam wrote:
Correct this woman is obviously deluded.

What has stood out for me since City made it to the final is the incredible attitudes of the average City fan or is it the average T&A reader, all i have been able to take from it is the people are all about me, its me me me, what about me, i deserve it, he does not. What should be a time of enjoyment has only served to bring out the selfish disgusting nature of certain City 'fans', to be honest reading some of these comments not just on this thread but on others too have made me feel sick and angry, i'm just hoping that if ever there was a crisis that involved a life and death situation, that i am not in the company of certain city fans or T&A readers with their i'm alright jack and everyone for themselves attitude or the me myself and I. I agree the season/flexi holders should get priority, but don't believe they should get three tickets, why should they? should it not be one ticket or maybe two, but why three?

For those who don't have a ticket as some have said there will be no doubt be around 4,5 or 6k available for general sale on a first come first served basis, once the me myself and I brigade have their tickets of course.

From being proud about the achievement of City i'm now slightly embarrassed about my fellow Bradfordians attitudes towards ticket allocations and who does or doesn't deserve a ticket
Couldn't agree more paddy bantam,the people on here sound like a bunch of five year olds.why don't they ask wembley to separate all the non season ticket holders who have got a ticket so we know who the scum are.
[quote][p][bold]PaddyBantam[/bold] wrote: Correct this woman is obviously deluded. What has stood out for me since City made it to the final is the incredible attitudes of the average City fan or is it the average T&A reader, all i have been able to take from it is the people are all about me, its me me me, what about me, i deserve it, he does not. What should be a time of enjoyment has only served to bring out the selfish disgusting nature of certain City 'fans', to be honest reading some of these comments not just on this thread but on others too have made me feel sick and angry, i'm just hoping that if ever there was a crisis that involved a life and death situation, that i am not in the company of certain city fans or T&A readers with their i'm alright jack and everyone for themselves attitude or the me myself and I. I agree the season/flexi holders should get priority, but don't believe they should get three tickets, why should they? should it not be one ticket or maybe two, but why three? For those who don't have a ticket as some have said there will be no doubt be around 4,5 or 6k available for general sale on a first come first served basis, once the me myself and I brigade have their tickets of course. From being proud about the achievement of City i'm now slightly embarrassed about my fellow Bradfordians attitudes towards ticket allocations and who does or doesn't deserve a ticket[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more paddy bantam,the people on here sound like a bunch of five year olds.why don't they ask wembley to separate all the non season ticket holders who have got a ticket so we know who the scum are. joeybcfc
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5:14pm Wed 30 Jan 13

jamiemotters says...

The one thing that really annoys me about this article is the scaremongering by the T&A. The T&A itself, has strong ties to the club and dedicates a lot of it's reports to the club, yet they make the comment "if tickets do not go on general sale" This is clearly an article by a journalist that has litlle or no knowledge about the club as it wouldn't take a genius to work out that tickets WILL go on general sale no matter how many tickets ST holders buy.
The one thing that really annoys me about this article is the scaremongering by the T&A. The T&A itself, has strong ties to the club and dedicates a lot of it's reports to the club, yet they make the comment "if tickets do not go on general sale" This is clearly an article by a journalist that has litlle or no knowledge about the club as it wouldn't take a genius to work out that tickets WILL go on general sale no matter how many tickets ST holders buy. jamiemotters
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5:23pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Thee Voice of Reason says...

3 tickets to a season ticket holder is going to ensure more genuine fans get tickets than putting the best part of 15k on general sale which means tickets will end up all over the place.

My allocation of 3 have gone to former season ticket holders of the past and those who actually knew Bradford existed before we got to wembley.
3 tickets to a season ticket holder is going to ensure more genuine fans get tickets than putting the best part of 15k on general sale which means tickets will end up all over the place. My allocation of 3 have gone to former season ticket holders of the past and those who actually knew Bradford existed before we got to wembley. Thee Voice of Reason
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5:26pm Wed 30 Jan 13

BD16 says...

Has anybody thought that she might have had a bet with a friend that she could get at least 50 complete strangers to ridicule her in public? It's more plausible than the story, surely.
Has anybody thought that she might have had a bet with a friend that she could get at least 50 complete strangers to ridicule her in public? It's more plausible than the story, surely. BD16
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5:41pm Wed 30 Jan 13

ShineyDave says...

Nice one, support your local club from the comfort of your locals tap room !!

just think about this, if the season ticket holders did that BCFC would have gone bust years ago and no one would be revelling in their fantastic success.

Good on you the LOYAL supporters who have carried the club through the last few years, in my mind three tickets isn't a big enough reward for your support
Nice one, support your local club from the comfort of your locals tap room !! just think about this, if the season ticket holders did that BCFC would have gone bust years ago and no one would be revelling in their fantastic success. Good on you the LOYAL supporters who have carried the club through the last few years, in my mind three tickets isn't a big enough reward for your support ShineyDave
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5:42pm Wed 30 Jan 13

tyker2 says...

if she gets any tickets thy will be spread all over in the more expensive seats. Why did she not contact the club first?
if she gets any tickets thy will be spread all over in the more expensive seats. Why did she not contact the club first? tyker2
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6:03pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Rambo says...

joeybcfc wrote:
PaddyBantam wrote:
Correct this woman is obviously deluded.

What has stood out for me since City made it to the final is the incredible attitudes of the average City fan or is it the average T&A reader, all i have been able to take from it is the people are all about me, its me me me, what about me, i deserve it, he does not. What should be a time of enjoyment has only served to bring out the selfish disgusting nature of certain City 'fans', to be honest reading some of these comments not just on this thread but on others too have made me feel sick and angry, i'm just hoping that if ever there was a crisis that involved a life and death situation, that i am not in the company of certain city fans or T&A readers with their i'm alright jack and everyone for themselves attitude or the me myself and I. I agree the season/flexi holders should get priority, but don't believe they should get three tickets, why should they? should it not be one ticket or maybe two, but why three?

For those who don't have a ticket as some have said there will be no doubt be around 4,5 or 6k available for general sale on a first come first served basis, once the me myself and I brigade have their tickets of course.

From being proud about the achievement of City i'm now slightly embarrassed about my fellow Bradfordians attitudes towards ticket allocations and who does or doesn't deserve a ticket
Couldn't agree more paddy bantam,the people on here sound like a bunch of five year olds.why don't they ask wembley to separate all the non season ticket holders who have got a ticket so we know who the scum are.
What you 2 don't get is in relation to this specific story which we are all ripping to pieces is we're laughing at the fact she thought she could turn up and buy 55 tickets. No-one in their right mind would sell that many in a general sale scenario as they would instantly think tout - any organised do's would probably have a specific arrangement with the organisers to maker sure they're kosher.

And another thing you don't get is her shockingly hilarious quote "around 40 from here have been following the cup run from the Wigan game", as if following the team from the 3rd round makes them superfans.
[quote][p][bold]joeybcfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PaddyBantam[/bold] wrote: Correct this woman is obviously deluded. What has stood out for me since City made it to the final is the incredible attitudes of the average City fan or is it the average T&A reader, all i have been able to take from it is the people are all about me, its me me me, what about me, i deserve it, he does not. What should be a time of enjoyment has only served to bring out the selfish disgusting nature of certain City 'fans', to be honest reading some of these comments not just on this thread but on others too have made me feel sick and angry, i'm just hoping that if ever there was a crisis that involved a life and death situation, that i am not in the company of certain city fans or T&A readers with their i'm alright jack and everyone for themselves attitude or the me myself and I. I agree the season/flexi holders should get priority, but don't believe they should get three tickets, why should they? should it not be one ticket or maybe two, but why three? For those who don't have a ticket as some have said there will be no doubt be around 4,5 or 6k available for general sale on a first come first served basis, once the me myself and I brigade have their tickets of course. From being proud about the achievement of City i'm now slightly embarrassed about my fellow Bradfordians attitudes towards ticket allocations and who does or doesn't deserve a ticket[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more paddy bantam,the people on here sound like a bunch of five year olds.why don't they ask wembley to separate all the non season ticket holders who have got a ticket so we know who the scum are.[/p][/quote]What you 2 don't get is in relation to this specific story which we are all ripping to pieces is we're laughing at the fact she thought she could turn up and buy 55 tickets. No-one in their right mind would sell that many in a general sale scenario as they would instantly think tout - any organised do's would probably have a specific arrangement with the organisers to maker sure they're kosher. And another thing you don't get is her shockingly hilarious quote "around 40 from here have been following the cup run from the Wigan game", as if following the team from the 3rd round makes them superfans. Rambo
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6:13pm Wed 30 Jan 13

PaddyBantam says...

joeybcfc wrote:
PaddyBantam wrote:
Correct this woman is obviously deluded.

What has stood out for me since City made it to the final is the incredible attitudes of the average City fan or is it the average T&A reader, all i have been able to take from it is the people are all about me, its me me me, what about me, i deserve it, he does not. What should be a time of enjoyment has only served to bring out the selfish disgusting nature of certain City 'fans', to be honest reading some of these comments not just on this thread but on others too have made me feel sick and angry, i'm just hoping that if ever there was a crisis that involved a life and death situation, that i am not in the company of certain city fans or T&A readers with their i'm alright jack and everyone for themselves attitude or the me myself and I. I agree the season/flexi holders should get priority, but don't believe they should get three tickets, why should they? should it not be one ticket or maybe two, but why three?

For those who don't have a ticket as some have said there will be no doubt be around 4,5 or 6k available for general sale on a first come first served basis, once the me myself and I brigade have their tickets of course.

From being proud about the achievement of City i'm now slightly embarrassed about my fellow Bradfordians attitudes towards ticket allocations and who does or doesn't deserve a ticket
Couldn't agree more paddy bantam,the people on here sound like a bunch of five year olds.why don't they ask wembley to separate all the non season ticket holders who have got a ticket so we know who the scum are.
Quality. Made me laugh, is this before they have to be tattooed with

' i'm not as worthy as a season ticket holder'
or
'i got my ticket at the expense of the wife's & children of a season ticket holder'
[quote][p][bold]joeybcfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PaddyBantam[/bold] wrote: Correct this woman is obviously deluded. What has stood out for me since City made it to the final is the incredible attitudes of the average City fan or is it the average T&A reader, all i have been able to take from it is the people are all about me, its me me me, what about me, i deserve it, he does not. What should be a time of enjoyment has only served to bring out the selfish disgusting nature of certain City 'fans', to be honest reading some of these comments not just on this thread but on others too have made me feel sick and angry, i'm just hoping that if ever there was a crisis that involved a life and death situation, that i am not in the company of certain city fans or T&A readers with their i'm alright jack and everyone for themselves attitude or the me myself and I. I agree the season/flexi holders should get priority, but don't believe they should get three tickets, why should they? should it not be one ticket or maybe two, but why three? For those who don't have a ticket as some have said there will be no doubt be around 4,5 or 6k available for general sale on a first come first served basis, once the me myself and I brigade have their tickets of course. From being proud about the achievement of City i'm now slightly embarrassed about my fellow Bradfordians attitudes towards ticket allocations and who does or doesn't deserve a ticket[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more paddy bantam,the people on here sound like a bunch of five year olds.why don't they ask wembley to separate all the non season ticket holders who have got a ticket so we know who the scum are.[/p][/quote]Quality. Made me laugh, is this before they have to be tattooed with ' i'm not as worthy as a season ticket holder' or 'i got my ticket at the expense of the wife's & children of a season ticket holder' PaddyBantam
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6:13pm Wed 30 Jan 13

PaddyBantam says...

joeybcfc wrote:
PaddyBantam wrote:
Correct this woman is obviously deluded.

What has stood out for me since City made it to the final is the incredible attitudes of the average City fan or is it the average T&A reader, all i have been able to take from it is the people are all about me, its me me me, what about me, i deserve it, he does not. What should be a time of enjoyment has only served to bring out the selfish disgusting nature of certain City 'fans', to be honest reading some of these comments not just on this thread but on others too have made me feel sick and angry, i'm just hoping that if ever there was a crisis that involved a life and death situation, that i am not in the company of certain city fans or T&A readers with their i'm alright jack and everyone for themselves attitude or the me myself and I. I agree the season/flexi holders should get priority, but don't believe they should get three tickets, why should they? should it not be one ticket or maybe two, but why three?

For those who don't have a ticket as some have said there will be no doubt be around 4,5 or 6k available for general sale on a first come first served basis, once the me myself and I brigade have their tickets of course.

From being proud about the achievement of City i'm now slightly embarrassed about my fellow Bradfordians attitudes towards ticket allocations and who does or doesn't deserve a ticket
Couldn't agree more paddy bantam,the people on here sound like a bunch of five year olds.why don't they ask wembley to separate all the non season ticket holders who have got a ticket so we know who the scum are.
Quality. Made me laugh, is this before they have to be tattooed with

' i'm not as worthy as a season ticket holder'
or
'i got my ticket at the expense of the wife's & children of a season ticket holder'
[quote][p][bold]joeybcfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PaddyBantam[/bold] wrote: Correct this woman is obviously deluded. What has stood out for me since City made it to the final is the incredible attitudes of the average City fan or is it the average T&A reader, all i have been able to take from it is the people are all about me, its me me me, what about me, i deserve it, he does not. What should be a time of enjoyment has only served to bring out the selfish disgusting nature of certain City 'fans', to be honest reading some of these comments not just on this thread but on others too have made me feel sick and angry, i'm just hoping that if ever there was a crisis that involved a life and death situation, that i am not in the company of certain city fans or T&A readers with their i'm alright jack and everyone for themselves attitude or the me myself and I. I agree the season/flexi holders should get priority, but don't believe they should get three tickets, why should they? should it not be one ticket or maybe two, but why three? For those who don't have a ticket as some have said there will be no doubt be around 4,5 or 6k available for general sale on a first come first served basis, once the me myself and I brigade have their tickets of course. From being proud about the achievement of City i'm now slightly embarrassed about my fellow Bradfordians attitudes towards ticket allocations and who does or doesn't deserve a ticket[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more paddy bantam,the people on here sound like a bunch of five year olds.why don't they ask wembley to separate all the non season ticket holders who have got a ticket so we know who the scum are.[/p][/quote]Quality. Made me laugh, is this before they have to be tattooed with ' i'm not as worthy as a season ticket holder' or 'i got my ticket at the expense of the wife's & children of a season ticket holder' PaddyBantam
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6:33pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Beeceefcee says...

I think that the non season ticket holders should be tattooed on their foreheads so we can point them out at Wembley and throw rotten eggs at them!
That will teach them to support our club!

Joke by the way :-)
I think that the non season ticket holders should be tattooed on their foreheads so we can point them out at Wembley and throw rotten eggs at them! That will teach them to support our club! Joke by the way :-) Beeceefcee
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6:40pm Wed 30 Jan 13

wobbley-bob says...

She's just been telling her sob story on Calendar..... No doubt she'll be on Look North shortly too.
She's just been telling her sob story on Calendar..... No doubt she'll be on Look North shortly too. wobbley-bob
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7:18pm Wed 30 Jan 13

chapel house bantam says...

no sympathy here,how come everyone thats panicking for tickets used to be a season ticket holder,if thats true we must have a fan base of 100k!!
didnt see a bus from the second west at notts county in august!!
no sympathy here,how come everyone thats panicking for tickets used to be a season ticket holder,if thats true we must have a fan base of 100k!! didnt see a bus from the second west at notts county in august!! chapel house bantam
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7:52pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Lets clear a few things up, there will be tickets on general sale.
We could sell out a semi final in our own city.
We got 4k for the 3rd round at home.

So bearing this in mind how come many who can't make it to VP for a semi final can suddenly make a final?
Season tickets are looked after without them there is no club. If a fan turns up to pay on the gate as they make out then they are stupid if they didn't think a flexicard was worth getting as it pays itself back after jusr 3 games at 25quid.
The people of this pub live in Bradford.
I would rather the exiled bantams get first choice who can't make games due to distance rather than a coach load who want a day out who live with walking distance of VP.
The woman is an idiot if she thought they would all be put on general sale to anyone.
Lets clear a few things up, there will be tickets on general sale. We could sell out a semi final in our own city. We got 4k for the 3rd round at home. So bearing this in mind how come many who can't make it to VP for a semi final can suddenly make a final? Season tickets are looked after without them there is no club. If a fan turns up to pay on the gate as they make out then they are stupid if they didn't think a flexicard was worth getting as it pays itself back after jusr 3 games at 25quid. The people of this pub live in Bradford. I would rather the exiled bantams get first choice who can't make games due to distance rather than a coach load who want a day out who live with walking distance of VP. The woman is an idiot if she thought they would all be put on general sale to anyone. Thee Voice of Reason
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7:56pm Wed 30 Jan 13

seasonticketholder says...

Wot a lot of nonsense!

These poor drinkers, do not go cos they cannot afford a 50/50 perhaps go to 7 or 8 games.

Cost £120!

Hold on despite being so skint we cannot go to ordinary matches like all those season ticket holders, we only go to all the 'high profile' cup matches at £20 & £25 a throw. We can spend £40, £56, £72, £90 plus all the transport, food and added costs of a days drinking.

Ummmmmm add it all up and the cost is well over £250 with all the 'add ons'.

Next September, when City are playing 'down at heels lump it forrard town'.
Who is going to be at VP from the Second West ????????????????????
???????????????????
Wot a lot of nonsense! These poor drinkers, do not go cos they cannot afford a 50/50 perhaps go to 7 or 8 games. Cost £120! Hold on despite being so skint we cannot go to ordinary matches like all those season ticket holders, we only go to all the 'high profile' cup matches at £20 & £25 a throw. We can spend £40, £56, £72, £90 plus all the transport, food and added costs of a days drinking. Ummmmmm add it all up and the cost is well over £250 with all the 'add ons'. Next September, when City are playing 'down at heels lump it forrard town'. Who is going to be at VP from the Second West ???????????????????? ??????????????????? seasonticketholder
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8:01pm Wed 30 Jan 13

KnightMcCall says...

Rambo wrote:
joeybcfc wrote:
PaddyBantam wrote:
Correct this woman is obviously deluded.

What has stood out for me since City made it to the final is the incredible attitudes of the average City fan or is it the average T&A reader, all i have been able to take from it is the people are all about me, its me me me, what about me, i deserve it, he does not. What should be a time of enjoyment has only served to bring out the selfish disgusting nature of certain City 'fans', to be honest reading some of these comments not just on this thread but on others too have made me feel sick and angry, i'm just hoping that if ever there was a crisis that involved a life and death situation, that i am not in the company of certain city fans or T&A readers with their i'm alright jack and everyone for themselves attitude or the me myself and I. I agree the season/flexi holders should get priority, but don't believe they should get three tickets, why should they? should it not be one ticket or maybe two, but why three?

For those who don't have a ticket as some have said there will be no doubt be around 4,5 or 6k available for general sale on a first come first served basis, once the me myself and I brigade have their tickets of course.

From being proud about the achievement of City i'm now slightly embarrassed about my fellow Bradfordians attitudes towards ticket allocations and who does or doesn't deserve a ticket
Couldn't agree more paddy bantam,the people on here sound like a bunch of five year olds.why don't they ask wembley to separate all the non season ticket holders who have got a ticket so we know who the scum are.
What you 2 don't get is in relation to this specific story which we are all ripping to pieces is we're laughing at the fact she thought she could turn up and buy 55 tickets. No-one in their right mind would sell that many in a general sale scenario as they would instantly think tout - any organised do's would probably have a specific arrangement with the organisers to maker sure they're kosher.

And another thing you don't get is her shockingly hilarious quote "around 40 from here have been following the cup run from the Wigan game", as if following the team from the 3rd round makes them superfans.
Fourth round Rambo. you must now give your allocation to the 55....Burton was round three.

Tell the 55 that there are still tickets left for Fleetwood on Saturday...how is that possible with 30,000 "genuine" fans plus 10,000 season ticket holders?
[quote][p][bold]Rambo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joeybcfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PaddyBantam[/bold] wrote: Correct this woman is obviously deluded. What has stood out for me since City made it to the final is the incredible attitudes of the average City fan or is it the average T&A reader, all i have been able to take from it is the people are all about me, its me me me, what about me, i deserve it, he does not. What should be a time of enjoyment has only served to bring out the selfish disgusting nature of certain City 'fans', to be honest reading some of these comments not just on this thread but on others too have made me feel sick and angry, i'm just hoping that if ever there was a crisis that involved a life and death situation, that i am not in the company of certain city fans or T&A readers with their i'm alright jack and everyone for themselves attitude or the me myself and I. I agree the season/flexi holders should get priority, but don't believe they should get three tickets, why should they? should it not be one ticket or maybe two, but why three? For those who don't have a ticket as some have said there will be no doubt be around 4,5 or 6k available for general sale on a first come first served basis, once the me myself and I brigade have their tickets of course. From being proud about the achievement of City i'm now slightly embarrassed about my fellow Bradfordians attitudes towards ticket allocations and who does or doesn't deserve a ticket[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more paddy bantam,the people on here sound like a bunch of five year olds.why don't they ask wembley to separate all the non season ticket holders who have got a ticket so we know who the scum are.[/p][/quote]What you 2 don't get is in relation to this specific story which we are all ripping to pieces is we're laughing at the fact she thought she could turn up and buy 55 tickets. No-one in their right mind would sell that many in a general sale scenario as they would instantly think tout - any organised do's would probably have a specific arrangement with the organisers to maker sure they're kosher. And another thing you don't get is her shockingly hilarious quote "around 40 from here have been following the cup run from the Wigan game", as if following the team from the 3rd round makes them superfans.[/p][/quote]Fourth round Rambo. you must now give your allocation to the 55....Burton was round three. Tell the 55 that there are still tickets left for Fleetwood on Saturday...how is that possible with 30,000 "genuine" fans plus 10,000 season ticket holders? KnightMcCall
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8:05pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Rambo says...

True that, my bad. They can skin me an alive and take my tickets.
True that, my bad. They can skin me an alive and take my tickets. Rambo
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8:07pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Shipleyvegas says...

I'd LOVE to see the bantams at wembley, but i very rarely go to the match. It is 100% fair that season ticket holders go first, and if there are none left for me, then that again is fair, as the week in week out fans have got their chance to go. I've not even asked mates who are season ticket holders to get me one, as there are people I know who simply regularly turn up who I would prefer go.

It's a shame we only have 35k tickets, but that's life nowadays - and this has been a well publicised fact! Maybe this landlady should read the T&A more...
I'd LOVE to see the bantams at wembley, but i very rarely go to the match. It is 100% fair that season ticket holders go first, and if there are none left for me, then that again is fair, as the week in week out fans have got their chance to go. I've not even asked mates who are season ticket holders to get me one, as there are people I know who simply regularly turn up who I would prefer go. It's a shame we only have 35k tickets, but that's life nowadays - and this has been a well publicised fact! Maybe this landlady should read the T&A more... Shipleyvegas
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8:16pm Wed 30 Jan 13

tinytoonster says...

pub full of idiots anyway.
police there every other week because of fighting.
pub full of idiots anyway. police there every other week because of fighting. tinytoonster
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8:35pm Wed 30 Jan 13

mahb70 says...

I usually get brassed off by many comments on these articles.Today thanks to Maggie, I've had plenty of chuckles from the above responses. 3 each means more proper fans will be at Wembley....#CTID
I usually get brassed off by many comments on these articles.Today thanks to Maggie, I've had plenty of chuckles from the above responses. 3 each means more proper fans will be at Wembley....#CTID mahb70
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8:42pm Wed 30 Jan 13

seen it all before says...

Don't panic anyone who wants to get a ticket will get one BFC v SWANSEA ffs
Don't panic anyone who wants to get a ticket will get one BFC v SWANSEA ffs seen it all before
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8:52pm Wed 30 Jan 13

seen it all before says...

Just a thought, how much does the closure of so many Pubs recently, be because of the quality of the Landord / Landlady? I would say 99%
Just a thought, how much does the closure of so many Pubs recently, be because of the quality of the Landord / Landlady? I would say 99% seen it all before
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8:57pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Put into context, the price of a season ticket is £4 per week. How many of her regulars have 1 and a half pints a week in there. I'm guessing many so by just cutting back on 1 and a half pints a week this lot would have season tickets and guaranteed wembley tickets.
Infact at £25 for a flexicard thats 50p per week.
Her excuses are pathetic as is the mentality she could get 55 tickets on the first day before all season ticket holders who form many years have watched utter garbage.
Put into context, the price of a season ticket is £4 per week. How many of her regulars have 1 and a half pints a week in there. I'm guessing many so by just cutting back on 1 and a half pints a week this lot would have season tickets and guaranteed wembley tickets. Infact at £25 for a flexicard thats 50p per week. Her excuses are pathetic as is the mentality she could get 55 tickets on the first day before all season ticket holders who form many years have watched utter garbage. Thee Voice of Reason
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10:10pm Wed 30 Jan 13

PaddyBantam says...

Rambo wrote:
joeybcfc wrote:
PaddyBantam wrote:
Correct this woman is obviously deluded.

What has stood out for me since City made it to the final is the incredible attitudes of the average City fan or is it the average T&A reader, all i have been able to take from it is the people are all about me, its me me me, what about me, i deserve it, he does not. What should be a time of enjoyment has only served to bring out the selfish disgusting nature of certain City 'fans', to be honest reading some of these comments not just on this thread but on others too have made me feel sick and angry, i'm just hoping that if ever there was a crisis that involved a life and death situation, that i am not in the company of certain city fans or T&A readers with their i'm alright jack and everyone for themselves attitude or the me myself and I. I agree the season/flexi holders should get priority, but don't believe they should get three tickets, why should they? should it not be one ticket or maybe two, but why three?

For those who don't have a ticket as some have said there will be no doubt be around 4,5 or 6k available for general sale on a first come first served basis, once the me myself and I brigade have their tickets of course.

From being proud about the achievement of City i'm now slightly embarrassed about my fellow Bradfordians attitudes towards ticket allocations and who does or doesn't deserve a ticket
Couldn't agree more paddy bantam,the people on here sound like a bunch of five year olds.why don't they ask wembley to separate all the non season ticket holders who have got a ticket so we know who the scum are.
What you 2 don't get is in relation to this specific story which we are all ripping to pieces is we're laughing at the fact she thought she could turn up and buy 55 tickets. No-one in their right mind would sell that many in a general sale scenario as they would instantly think tout - any organised do's would probably have a specific arrangement with the organisers to maker sure they're kosher.

And another thing you don't get is her shockingly hilarious quote "around 40 from here have been following the cup run from the Wigan game", as if following the team from the 3rd round makes them superfans.
No i do get it Rambo - that is why i started my post with this woman is deluded.

The rest speaks for itself.
[quote][p][bold]Rambo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joeybcfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PaddyBantam[/bold] wrote: Correct this woman is obviously deluded. What has stood out for me since City made it to the final is the incredible attitudes of the average City fan or is it the average T&A reader, all i have been able to take from it is the people are all about me, its me me me, what about me, i deserve it, he does not. What should be a time of enjoyment has only served to bring out the selfish disgusting nature of certain City 'fans', to be honest reading some of these comments not just on this thread but on others too have made me feel sick and angry, i'm just hoping that if ever there was a crisis that involved a life and death situation, that i am not in the company of certain city fans or T&A readers with their i'm alright jack and everyone for themselves attitude or the me myself and I. I agree the season/flexi holders should get priority, but don't believe they should get three tickets, why should they? should it not be one ticket or maybe two, but why three? For those who don't have a ticket as some have said there will be no doubt be around 4,5 or 6k available for general sale on a first come first served basis, once the me myself and I brigade have their tickets of course. From being proud about the achievement of City i'm now slightly embarrassed about my fellow Bradfordians attitudes towards ticket allocations and who does or doesn't deserve a ticket[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more paddy bantam,the people on here sound like a bunch of five year olds.why don't they ask wembley to separate all the non season ticket holders who have got a ticket so we know who the scum are.[/p][/quote]What you 2 don't get is in relation to this specific story which we are all ripping to pieces is we're laughing at the fact she thought she could turn up and buy 55 tickets. No-one in their right mind would sell that many in a general sale scenario as they would instantly think tout - any organised do's would probably have a specific arrangement with the organisers to maker sure they're kosher. And another thing you don't get is her shockingly hilarious quote "around 40 from here have been following the cup run from the Wigan game", as if following the team from the 3rd round makes them superfans.[/p][/quote]No i do get it Rambo - that is why i started my post with this woman is deluded. The rest speaks for itself. PaddyBantam
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10:13pm Wed 30 Jan 13

PaddyBantam says...

But on that point Rambo - Do you get it?
But on that point Rambo - Do you get it? PaddyBantam
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10:24pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Shadrach Dingle says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Put into context, the price of a season ticket is £4 per week. How many of her regulars have 1 and a half pints a week in there. I'm guessing many so by just cutting back on 1 and a half pints a week this lot would have season tickets and guaranteed wembley tickets.
Infact at £25 for a flexicard thats 50p per week.
Her excuses are pathetic as is the mentality she could get 55 tickets on the first day before all season ticket holders who form many years have watched utter garbage.
I've seen you wittering on about flexicards and rubbishing non-season ticket holding City fans that are worried about getting a Wembley ticket all over the place. If it was that simple to think of and do can you please explain to me why the two City fans that are no longer season ticket holders that you've bought tickets for, why didn't they buy a flexicard instead of having to rely on you getting them a ticket???

For the record I'm with this fella...

'Bradford city at wembley in the cup final is historic and the fact that there giving 3 tickets per season ticket holder is bang out of order some will be taking any tom dick n harry with them for a day out n to fill seats. When real fans who dont have tickets due to work or money who cant afford season tickets but can afford to pay on a weekly basis will be watching on telly.'

Imho three tickets per person was too many. The amount of 'spares' going to non-City supporting mates/school friends and work/business colleagues could run into the thousands. It should have been limited to two as I believe genuine City fans missing out on a ticket would be a lot more willing to queue for any that went on general sale.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: Put into context, the price of a season ticket is £4 per week. How many of her regulars have 1 and a half pints a week in there. I'm guessing many so by just cutting back on 1 and a half pints a week this lot would have season tickets and guaranteed wembley tickets. Infact at £25 for a flexicard thats 50p per week. Her excuses are pathetic as is the mentality she could get 55 tickets on the first day before all season ticket holders who form many years have watched utter garbage.[/p][/quote]I've seen you wittering on about flexicards and rubbishing non-season ticket holding City fans that are worried about getting a Wembley ticket all over the place. If it was that simple to think of and do can you please explain to me why the two City fans that are no longer season ticket holders that you've bought tickets for, why didn't they buy a flexicard instead of having to rely on you getting them a ticket??? For the record I'm with this fella... 'Bradford city at wembley in the cup final is historic and the fact that there giving 3 tickets per season ticket holder is bang out of order some will be taking any tom dick n harry with them for a day out n to fill seats. When real fans who dont have tickets due to work or money who cant afford season tickets but can afford to pay on a weekly basis will be watching on telly.' Imho three tickets per person was too many. The amount of 'spares' going to non-City supporting mates/school friends and work/business colleagues could run into the thousands. It should have been limited to two as I believe genuine City fans missing out on a ticket would be a lot more willing to queue for any that went on general sale. Shadrach Dingle
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10:57pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Shadrach Dingle wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Put into context, the price of a season ticket is £4 per week. How many of her regulars have 1 and a half pints a week in there. I'm guessing many so by just cutting back on 1 and a half pints a week this lot would have season tickets and guaranteed wembley tickets.
Infact at £25 for a flexicard thats 50p per week.
Her excuses are pathetic as is the mentality she could get 55 tickets on the first day before all season ticket holders who form many years have watched utter garbage.
I've seen you wittering on about flexicards and rubbishing non-season ticket holding City fans that are worried about getting a Wembley ticket all over the place. If it was that simple to think of and do can you please explain to me why the two City fans that are no longer season ticket holders that you've bought tickets for, why didn't they buy a flexicard instead of having to rely on you getting them a ticket???

For the record I'm with this fella...

'Bradford city at wembley in the cup final is historic and the fact that there giving 3 tickets per season ticket holder is bang out of order some will be taking any tom dick n harry with them for a day out n to fill seats. When real fans who dont have tickets due to work or money who cant afford season tickets but can afford to pay on a weekly basis will be watching on telly.'

Imho three tickets per person was too many. The amount of 'spares' going to non-City supporting mates/school friends and work/business colleagues could run into the thousands. It should have been limited to two as I believe genuine City fans missing out on a ticket would be a lot more willing to queue for any that went on general sale.
One of them lives in London and was a season ticket holder from 94 to 2010 before moving down there. He's managed 5 games this season 2 at home and 3 down south, not a bad effort compared to this lot jn the pub who out of 55 only 2 have a season ticket when they live on the doorstep of VP.
The other has a 1 year old daughter so has to change priorities her grandparents have stepped in as a treat with the money and an offer of babysitting for the final.
These two have seen Bradford at Grimsby, Accrington, Hartlepool, Stockport, etc so are no bandwagon jumpers.
[quote][p][bold]Shadrach Dingle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: Put into context, the price of a season ticket is £4 per week. How many of her regulars have 1 and a half pints a week in there. I'm guessing many so by just cutting back on 1 and a half pints a week this lot would have season tickets and guaranteed wembley tickets. Infact at £25 for a flexicard thats 50p per week. Her excuses are pathetic as is the mentality she could get 55 tickets on the first day before all season ticket holders who form many years have watched utter garbage.[/p][/quote]I've seen you wittering on about flexicards and rubbishing non-season ticket holding City fans that are worried about getting a Wembley ticket all over the place. If it was that simple to think of and do can you please explain to me why the two City fans that are no longer season ticket holders that you've bought tickets for, why didn't they buy a flexicard instead of having to rely on you getting them a ticket??? For the record I'm with this fella... 'Bradford city at wembley in the cup final is historic and the fact that there giving 3 tickets per season ticket holder is bang out of order some will be taking any tom dick n harry with them for a day out n to fill seats. When real fans who dont have tickets due to work or money who cant afford season tickets but can afford to pay on a weekly basis will be watching on telly.' Imho three tickets per person was too many. The amount of 'spares' going to non-City supporting mates/school friends and work/business colleagues could run into the thousands. It should have been limited to two as I believe genuine City fans missing out on a ticket would be a lot more willing to queue for any that went on general sale.[/p][/quote]One of them lives in London and was a season ticket holder from 94 to 2010 before moving down there. He's managed 5 games this season 2 at home and 3 down south, not a bad effort compared to this lot jn the pub who out of 55 only 2 have a season ticket when they live on the doorstep of VP. The other has a 1 year old daughter so has to change priorities her grandparents have stepped in as a treat with the money and an offer of babysitting for the final. These two have seen Bradford at Grimsby, Accrington, Hartlepool, Stockport, etc so are no bandwagon jumpers. Thee Voice of Reason
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11:10pm Wed 30 Jan 13

exile33 says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Lets clear a few things up, there will be tickets on general sale.
We could sell out a semi final in our own city.
We got 4k for the 3rd round at home.

So bearing this in mind how come many who can't make it to VP for a semi final can suddenly make a final?
Season tickets are looked after without them there is no club. If a fan turns up to pay on the gate as they make out then they are stupid if they didn't think a flexicard was worth getting as it pays itself back after jusr 3 games at 25quid.
The people of this pub live in Bradford.
I would rather the exiled bantams get first choice who can't make games due to distance rather than a coach load who want a day out who live with walking distance of VP.
The woman is an idiot if she thought they would all be put on general sale to anyone.
Do you know a board member to put that exile policy in place please?

Look up past season ticket history and give exiles preference!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: Lets clear a few things up, there will be tickets on general sale. We could sell out a semi final in our own city. We got 4k for the 3rd round at home. So bearing this in mind how come many who can't make it to VP for a semi final can suddenly make a final? Season tickets are looked after without them there is no club. If a fan turns up to pay on the gate as they make out then they are stupid if they didn't think a flexicard was worth getting as it pays itself back after jusr 3 games at 25quid. The people of this pub live in Bradford. I would rather the exiled bantams get first choice who can't make games due to distance rather than a coach load who want a day out who live with walking distance of VP. The woman is an idiot if she thought they would all be put on general sale to anyone.[/p][/quote]Do you know a board member to put that exile policy in place please? Look up past season ticket history and give exiles preference!!!!! exile33
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11:14pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Plastic Bantam says...

I've read this article 5 times and I'm still laughing my socks off..... Why would you book,hotels and travel when you knew you might not get a ticket.... And then the best line I've ever read....

around 40 from here have been following the cup run from the Wigan game.

ha ha ha.. Now i don't have a season ticket, all my friends who do are taking mates who have been a lot more than i have this season, which is more than fair!!! And whilst i disagree with 3 tickets per ST & FC (As you're giving 2 none ST/ no BCFC Fans (potentially) better opportunity then the others) but that's the way it is. Get on with it, enjoy the occasion and hope we win!!!!
I've read this article 5 times and I'm still laughing my socks off..... Why would you book,hotels and travel when you knew you might not get a ticket.... And then the best line I've ever read.... around 40 from here have been following the cup run from the Wigan game. ha ha ha.. Now i don't have a season ticket, all my friends who do are taking mates who have been a lot more than i have this season, which is more than fair!!! And whilst i disagree with 3 tickets per ST & FC (As you're giving 2 none ST/ no BCFC Fans (potentially) better opportunity then the others) but that's the way it is. Get on with it, enjoy the occasion and hope we win!!!! Plastic Bantam
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11:15pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Rambo says...

PaddyBantam wrote:
But on that point Rambo - Do you get it?
Touche.

She was actually moaning on Calendar earlier. Out that group there was actually 2 season ticket holders. http://www.itv.com/n
ews/calendar/
[quote][p][bold]PaddyBantam[/bold] wrote: But on that point Rambo - Do you get it?[/p][/quote]Touche. She was actually moaning on Calendar earlier. Out that group there was actually 2 season ticket holders. http://www.itv.com/n ews/calendar/ Rambo
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11:19pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Thee Voice of Reason says...

I've got a ticket for a fan who now lives in London who was a season ticket holder for many years. I'm sure many will know similar and sort them out. If it was general sale you know hundreds would fall into the hands of touts trying to make money.
The club have been leaned on by the fa not to let thousands of tickets hit the open market so had little choice but to give 3 per season ticket holder in order to try help the tickets be distributed to people who won't tout them.
I've got a ticket for a fan who now lives in London who was a season ticket holder for many years. I'm sure many will know similar and sort them out. If it was general sale you know hundreds would fall into the hands of touts trying to make money. The club have been leaned on by the fa not to let thousands of tickets hit the open market so had little choice but to give 3 per season ticket holder in order to try help the tickets be distributed to people who won't tout them. Thee Voice of Reason
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11:26pm Wed 30 Jan 13

bantam idiot says...

right clowns you have slagged this woman all day long lets put the record straight she went down to city ground to ask how she could purchase tickets AFTER season ticket holders she did not ask any favours from anyone,she was told they would not get 1 ticket on general sale as what was left would go to corporate companies & sponsors that is why she rang the t&a rightly thinking that fans should know
right clowns you have slagged this woman all day long lets put the record straight she went down to city ground to ask how she could purchase tickets AFTER season ticket holders she did not ask any favours from anyone,she was told they would not get 1 ticket on general sale as what was left would go to corporate companies & sponsors that is why she rang the t&a rightly thinking that fans should know bantam idiot
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11:34pm Wed 30 Jan 13

bantam style says...

To all u clowns who r slagging the landlady off. Get a grip. Your all putting her down for being loyal and standing by her customers. And good on her. Dont het me wrong eberybody is entitled to a opinon. But i think they have it all wrong by allowing 3 tickets per season ticket holder or flexi ****. It should be 2 that would be alot fairer. Take my mate for example. He has bee going to city for over 40 years and he got made redundant last year and money was tight so he dindt buy a season ticket??? Wheres the sense in that?? He will now struggle to het to wembley to see wat he has dreamt about all his life. And me, i am in my mid 20s and i have been going home n away since i was 4 with my family i have had a season ticket18 year of my life and because i now hav my own house to run i can only afford to go to a few games. that do not make me a glory supporter.
To all u clowns who r slagging the landlady off. Get a grip. Your all putting her down for being loyal and standing by her customers. And good on her. Dont het me wrong eberybody is entitled to a opinon. But i think they have it all wrong by allowing 3 tickets per season ticket holder or flexi ****. It should be 2 that would be alot fairer. Take my mate for example. He has bee going to city for over 40 years and he got made redundant last year and money was tight so he dindt buy a season ticket??? Wheres the sense in that?? He will now struggle to het to wembley to see wat he has dreamt about all his life. And me, i am in my mid 20s and i have been going home n away since i was 4 with my family i have had a season ticket18 year of my life and because i now hav my own house to run i can only afford to go to a few games. that do not make me a glory supporter. bantam style
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11:42pm Wed 30 Jan 13

CG1963 says...

I have just finished work and been told to have a look at these comments. I must say that a lot of you are "deluded" can you not understand that this is happening to a lot of groups of people who want to watch BCFC at wembley who are PROPER fans who go to HOME and AWAY games (not as many as we would like to because we cannot afford it and we have families and responsibilities outside football) but how many of you so called LOYAL S/T, FLEXI supporters do the same?. I do not only speak for myself but all you get at home games are people moaning and carrying on at how the team are playing and now your all entitled to wembley tickets! try going to the away games and "SING YOUR HEART OUT FOR THE LADS ". The allocated tickets to S/T and Flexi holders is by far too many because how many will be given to family, friends etc, who are only going for "THE WEMBLEY EXPERIENCE". Wake up people, and BCFC reward US that go to away games as well, oh and by the way i have heard that there will not be any tickets going on GENERAL SALE as they will be given out to corporates etc, who are the REAL fans!!!!!
I have just finished work and been told to have a look at these comments. I must say that a lot of you are "deluded" can you not understand that this is happening to a lot of groups of people who want to watch BCFC at wembley who are PROPER fans who go to HOME and AWAY games (not as many as we would like to because we cannot afford it and we have families and responsibilities outside football) but how many of you so called LOYAL S/T, FLEXI supporters do the same?. I do not only speak for myself but all you get at home games are people moaning and carrying on at how the team are playing and now your all entitled to wembley tickets! try going to the away games and "SING YOUR HEART OUT FOR THE LADS ". The allocated tickets to S/T and Flexi holders is by far too many because how many will be given to family, friends etc, who are only going for "THE WEMBLEY EXPERIENCE". Wake up people, and BCFC reward US that go to away games as well, oh and by the way i have heard that there will not be any tickets going on GENERAL SALE as they will be given out to corporates etc, who are the REAL fans!!!!! CG1963
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11:48pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Sashaboo2005 says...

I cannot understand that this story can be printed in the T&A what a joker what does she expect . People like myself who have followed Bradford for 30+ years deserve 3 tickets to Wembley and whoever we decide to take is none of there business. We have earned the right for these tickets we don't want glory hunters like her & her customers supporting Bradford they have never paid to watch them before so why should they get any preferential treatment now I seriously hope all true City supporters get to Wembley but I doubt it but it's the same in every sport whenever a big game comes along they all come out of the woodwork .
I cannot understand that this story can be printed in the T&A what a joker what does she expect . People like myself who have followed Bradford for 30+ years deserve 3 tickets to Wembley and whoever we decide to take is none of there business. We have earned the right for these tickets we don't want glory hunters like her & her customers supporting Bradford they have never paid to watch them before so why should they get any preferential treatment now I seriously hope all true City supporters get to Wembley but I doubt it but it's the same in every sport whenever a big game comes along they all come out of the woodwork . Sashaboo2005
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11:50pm Wed 30 Jan 13

CG1963 says...

bantam idiot wrote:
right clowns you have slagged this woman all day long lets put the record straight she went down to city ground to ask how she could purchase tickets AFTER season ticket holders she did not ask any favours from anyone,she was told they would not get 1 ticket on general sale as what was left would go to corporate companies & sponsors that is why she rang the t&a rightly thinking that fans should know
Bang right, b.i. well said.
[quote][p][bold]bantam idiot[/bold] wrote: right clowns you have slagged this woman all day long lets put the record straight she went down to city ground to ask how she could purchase tickets AFTER season ticket holders she did not ask any favours from anyone,she was told they would not get 1 ticket on general sale as what was left would go to corporate companies & sponsors that is why she rang the t&a rightly thinking that fans should know[/p][/quote]Bang right, b.i. well said. CG1963
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11:50pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Thee Voice of Reason says...

bantam idiot wrote:
right clowns you have slagged this woman all day long lets put the record straight she went down to city ground to ask how she could purchase tickets AFTER season ticket holders she did not ask any favours from anyone,she was told they would not get 1 ticket on general sale as what was left would go to corporate companies & sponsors that is why she rang the t&a rightly thinking that fans should know
Garbage, over 5k are due for general sale.
Speaking of which one of the reasons they were sold to through season ticket holders can be seen now on twitter.
Various people trying to make a quick buck are going to be seriously found out.
Every sale today is allocated to a season ticket. That season ticket holders details is well known by the club. If a ticket makes its way to ebay or some other method of sale it can be traced back. General sale doesn't allow for that so those looking to profit from other fans will be found out and I guess be speaking to the law as it is illegal to resell football tickets.
[quote][p][bold]bantam idiot[/bold] wrote: right clowns you have slagged this woman all day long lets put the record straight she went down to city ground to ask how she could purchase tickets AFTER season ticket holders she did not ask any favours from anyone,she was told they would not get 1 ticket on general sale as what was left would go to corporate companies & sponsors that is why she rang the t&a rightly thinking that fans should know[/p][/quote]Garbage, over 5k are due for general sale. Speaking of which one of the reasons they were sold to through season ticket holders can be seen now on twitter. Various people trying to make a quick buck are going to be seriously found out. Every sale today is allocated to a season ticket. That season ticket holders details is well known by the club. If a ticket makes its way to ebay or some other method of sale it can be traced back. General sale doesn't allow for that so those looking to profit from other fans will be found out and I guess be speaking to the law as it is illegal to resell football tickets. Thee Voice of Reason
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12:06am Thu 31 Jan 13

CG1963 says...

Sashaboo2005 wrote:
I cannot understand that this story can be printed in the T&A what a joker what does she expect . People like myself who have followed Bradford for 30+ years deserve 3 tickets to Wembley and whoever we decide to take is none of there business. We have earned the right for these tickets we don't want glory hunters like her & her customers supporting Bradford they have never paid to watch them before so why should they get any preferential treatment now I seriously hope all true City supporters get to Wembley but I doubt it but it's the same in every sport whenever a big game comes along they all come out of the woodwork .
Excuse me but what makes you think you "deserve" tickets? Ive been a supporter for 42 years so do i deserve one? and as for the so called "glory hunters and the customers who have never paid to watch City" well i know a lot of her customers and they DO PAY to go and watch City play, most of them at the Gate where it is £30. Now that is what tou call SUPPORT.
[quote][p][bold]Sashaboo2005[/bold] wrote: I cannot understand that this story can be printed in the T&A what a joker what does she expect . People like myself who have followed Bradford for 30+ years deserve 3 tickets to Wembley and whoever we decide to take is none of there business. We have earned the right for these tickets we don't want glory hunters like her & her customers supporting Bradford they have never paid to watch them before so why should they get any preferential treatment now I seriously hope all true City supporters get to Wembley but I doubt it but it's the same in every sport whenever a big game comes along they all come out of the woodwork .[/p][/quote]Excuse me but what makes you think you "deserve" tickets? Ive been a supporter for 42 years so do i deserve one? and as for the so called "glory hunters and the customers who have never paid to watch City" well i know a lot of her customers and they DO PAY to go and watch City play, most of them at the Gate where it is £30. Now that is what tou call SUPPORT. CG1963
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12:28am Thu 31 Jan 13

CG1963 says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
bantam idiot wrote: right clowns you have slagged this woman all day long lets put the record straight she went down to city ground to ask how she could purchase tickets AFTER season ticket holders she did not ask any favours from anyone,she was told they would not get 1 ticket on general sale as what was left would go to corporate companies & sponsors that is why she rang the t&a rightly thinking that fans should know
Garbage, over 5k are due for general sale. Speaking of which one of the reasons they were sold to through season ticket holders can be seen now on twitter. Various people trying to make a quick buck are going to be seriously found out. Every sale today is allocated to a season ticket. That season ticket holders details is well known by the club. If a ticket makes its way to ebay or some other method of sale it can be traced back. General sale doesn't allow for that so those looking to profit from other fans will be found out and I guess be speaking to the law as it is illegal to resell football tickets.
5 thousand DUE for general sale? Do you work for the T&A or are you DBs spokesperson?. B.I said she enquired as to how she could buy tickets AFTER s/t and flexi holders and was told "not one would be on general sale".
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantam idiot[/bold] wrote: right clowns you have slagged this woman all day long lets put the record straight she went down to city ground to ask how she could purchase tickets AFTER season ticket holders she did not ask any favours from anyone,she was told they would not get 1 ticket on general sale as what was left would go to corporate companies & sponsors that is why she rang the t&a rightly thinking that fans should know[/p][/quote]Garbage, over 5k are due for general sale. Speaking of which one of the reasons they were sold to through season ticket holders can be seen now on twitter. Various people trying to make a quick buck are going to be seriously found out. Every sale today is allocated to a season ticket. That season ticket holders details is well known by the club. If a ticket makes its way to ebay or some other method of sale it can be traced back. General sale doesn't allow for that so those looking to profit from other fans will be found out and I guess be speaking to the law as it is illegal to resell football tickets.[/p][/quote]5 thousand DUE for general sale? Do you work for the T&A or are you DBs spokesperson?. B.I said she enquired as to how she could buy tickets AFTER s/t and flexi holders and was told "not one would be on general sale". CG1963
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12:31am Thu 31 Jan 13

Hockens Hey says...

bantam idiot wrote:
right clowns you have slagged this woman all day long lets put the record straight she went down to city ground to ask how she could purchase tickets AFTER season ticket holders she did not ask any favours from anyone,she was told they would not get 1 ticket on general sale as what was left would go to corporate companies & sponsors that is why she rang the t&a rightly thinking that fans should know
Not sure why this is so hard to grasp, and the woman has clearly got her information mixed up.
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The club have just short of 10k season ticket, flexi card and box holders.
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Each can have 3 tickets each, a maximum of just under 30,000.
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Selling the tickets this way the club expect to sell 9000 x 3. Which equals 27,000 tickets.
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In total Bradford city have been allocated 31,852 tickets.
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This will leave around 4,850 tickets on sale for non season ticket holders in two weeks time. People like the landlady and her patrons.
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The general sale tickets you mention are the tickets that are neither allocated to Swansea (32,401) or Bradford (31,852).
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The capacity of Wembley is 90,000. So 25,748 to tickets are kept by the league for sponsors, corporate, boxes, prize winners etc. As has always been normal practice for any cup final.
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So there will be anywhere between 5,000 and 3,000 for non season ticket holding Bradford City fans after season ticket holders have used their allocation.
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Hope this clears it up!
[quote][p][bold]bantam idiot[/bold] wrote: right clowns you have slagged this woman all day long lets put the record straight she went down to city ground to ask how she could purchase tickets AFTER season ticket holders she did not ask any favours from anyone,she was told they would not get 1 ticket on general sale as what was left would go to corporate companies & sponsors that is why she rang the t&a rightly thinking that fans should know[/p][/quote]Not sure why this is so hard to grasp, and the woman has clearly got her information mixed up. . The club have just short of 10k season ticket, flexi card and box holders. . Each can have 3 tickets each, a maximum of just under 30,000. . Selling the tickets this way the club expect to sell 9000 x 3. Which equals 27,000 tickets. . In total Bradford city have been allocated 31,852 tickets. . This will leave around 4,850 tickets on sale for non season ticket holders in two weeks time. People like the landlady and her patrons. . The general sale tickets you mention are the tickets that are neither allocated to Swansea (32,401) or Bradford (31,852). . The capacity of Wembley is 90,000. So 25,748 to tickets are kept by the league for sponsors, corporate, boxes, prize winners etc. As has always been normal practice for any cup final. . So there will be anywhere between 5,000 and 3,000 for non season ticket holding Bradford City fans after season ticket holders have used their allocation. . Hope this clears it up! Hockens Hey
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1:01am Thu 31 Jan 13

nottrue92 says...

Not to worry, I hear there are still tickets for Fleetwood away on Saturday! Clearly you just want to support City like you always do so there's your opportunity!! And while you're at it best get yourselves a ticket for the next home match just in case they sell out too. Quick quick!
Not to worry, I hear there are still tickets for Fleetwood away on Saturday! Clearly you just want to support City like you always do so there's your opportunity!! And while you're at it best get yourselves a ticket for the next home match just in case they sell out too. Quick quick! nottrue92
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1:38am Thu 31 Jan 13

CG1963 says...

nottrue92 wrote:
Not to worry, I hear there are still tickets for Fleetwood away on Saturday! Clearly you just want to support City like you always do so there's your opportunity!! And while you're at it best get yourselves a ticket for the next home match just in case they sell out too. Quick quick!
Well then we will see you at Fleetwood? cant afford next home game but hey thats life!
[quote][p][bold]nottrue92[/bold] wrote: Not to worry, I hear there are still tickets for Fleetwood away on Saturday! Clearly you just want to support City like you always do so there's your opportunity!! And while you're at it best get yourselves a ticket for the next home match just in case they sell out too. Quick quick![/p][/quote]Well then we will see you at Fleetwood? cant afford next home game but hey thats life! CG1963
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1:42am Thu 31 Jan 13

nottrue92 says...

CG1963 wrote:
nottrue92 wrote:
Not to worry, I hear there are still tickets for Fleetwood away on Saturday! Clearly you just want to support City like you always do so there's your opportunity!! And while you're at it best get yourselves a ticket for the next home match just in case they sell out too. Quick quick!
Well then we will see you at Fleetwood? cant afford next home game but hey thats life!
Yes you'll definitely see me at Fleetwood and the rest! I genuinely hope that all these people who are unhappy about potentially not getting tickets will use the money to get to other City games and showing their support that way.
[quote][p][bold]CG1963[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nottrue92[/bold] wrote: Not to worry, I hear there are still tickets for Fleetwood away on Saturday! Clearly you just want to support City like you always do so there's your opportunity!! And while you're at it best get yourselves a ticket for the next home match just in case they sell out too. Quick quick![/p][/quote]Well then we will see you at Fleetwood? cant afford next home game but hey thats life![/p][/quote]Yes you'll definitely see me at Fleetwood and the rest! I genuinely hope that all these people who are unhappy about potentially not getting tickets will use the money to get to other City games and showing their support that way. nottrue92
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3:41am Thu 31 Jan 13

tyker2 says...

I wonder if this lady publican was going to have a jolly boys outing with booze on board the bus.? Has she checked the regulations relating o such matters in connection with football matches.
I wonder if this lady publican was going to have a jolly boys outing with booze on board the bus.? Has she checked the regulations relating o such matters in connection with football matches. tyker2
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7:16am Thu 31 Jan 13

seasonticketholder says...

bantam style wrote:
To all u clowns who r slagging the landlady off. Get a grip. Your all putting her down for being loyal and standing by her customers. And good on her. Dont het me wrong eberybody is entitled to a opinon. But i think they have it all wrong by allowing 3 tickets per season ticket holder or flexi ****. It should be 2 that would be alot fairer. Take my mate for example. He has bee going to city for over 40 years and he got made redundant last year and money was tight so he dindt buy a season ticket??? Wheres the sense in that?? He will now struggle to het to wembley to see wat he has dreamt about all his life. And me, i am in my mid 20s and i have been going home n away since i was 4 with my family i have had a season ticket18 year of my life and because i now hav my own house to run i can only afford to go to a few games. that do not make me a glory supporter.
Put into context, the price of a season ticket is £4 per week. How many of her regulars have 1 and a half pints a week in there. I'm guessing many so BY JUST CUTTING BACK ON 1 AND A HALF PINTS A WEEK this lot would have season tickets and guaranteed wembley tickets.

INFACT AT £25 FOR A FLEXICARD THATS 50P PER WEEK.

Her excuses are pathetic as is the mentality she could get 55 tickets on the first day before all season ticket holders who form many years have watched utter garbage.
[quote][p][bold]bantam style[/bold] wrote: To all u clowns who r slagging the landlady off. Get a grip. Your all putting her down for being loyal and standing by her customers. And good on her. Dont het me wrong eberybody is entitled to a opinon. But i think they have it all wrong by allowing 3 tickets per season ticket holder or flexi ****. It should be 2 that would be alot fairer. Take my mate for example. He has bee going to city for over 40 years and he got made redundant last year and money was tight so he dindt buy a season ticket??? Wheres the sense in that?? He will now struggle to het to wembley to see wat he has dreamt about all his life. And me, i am in my mid 20s and i have been going home n away since i was 4 with my family i have had a season ticket18 year of my life and because i now hav my own house to run i can only afford to go to a few games. that do not make me a glory supporter.[/p][/quote]Put into context, the price of a season ticket is £4 per week. How many of her regulars have 1 and a half pints a week in there. I'm guessing many so BY JUST CUTTING BACK ON 1 AND A HALF PINTS A WEEK this lot would have season tickets and guaranteed wembley tickets. INFACT AT £25 FOR A FLEXICARD THATS 50P PER WEEK. Her excuses are pathetic as is the mentality she could get 55 tickets on the first day before all season ticket holders who form many years have watched utter garbage. seasonticketholder
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7:23am Thu 31 Jan 13

arm grab man says...

How many of this bus load will be at the Gillingham game ?

Also does she and the T & A really think she is being harshly treat and should have the same right as a season ticket i think not.

Also if a third of this bus load had season tickets they could have bought the rest with their allocation and i bet they were amongst the half wits abusing the staff at VP yesterday
How many of this bus load will be at the Gillingham game ? Also does she and the T & A really think she is being harshly treat and should have the same right as a season ticket i think not. Also if a third of this bus load had season tickets they could have bought the rest with their allocation and i bet they were amongst the half wits abusing the staff at VP yesterday arm grab man
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7:28am Thu 31 Jan 13

Thee Voice of Reason says...

CG1963 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
bantam idiot wrote: right clowns you have slagged this woman all day long lets put the record straight she went down to city ground to ask how she could purchase tickets AFTER season ticket holders she did not ask any favours from anyone,she was told they would not get 1 ticket on general sale as what was left would go to corporate companies & sponsors that is why she rang the t&a rightly thinking that fans should know
Garbage, over 5k are due for general sale. Speaking of which one of the reasons they were sold to through season ticket holders can be seen now on twitter. Various people trying to make a quick buck are going to be seriously found out. Every sale today is allocated to a season ticket. That season ticket holders details is well known by the club. If a ticket makes its way to ebay or some other method of sale it can be traced back. General sale doesn't allow for that so those looking to profit from other fans will be found out and I guess be speaking to the law as it is illegal to resell football tickets.
5 thousand DUE for general sale? Do you work for the T&A or are you DBs spokesperson?. B.I said she enquired as to how she could buy tickets AFTER s/t and flexi holders and was told "not one would be on general sale".
Baldwin has said they expect 5k to go on general sale, I believe him over some landlady who thinks she could get 55 tickets at the same time as the thousands of season ticket holders.
No where does it say tickets will not go on general sale apart from her scaremomgering.
As for going to corporates have you seen the current sales map, I very much doubt corporates will want tickets scattered all over the place.
[quote][p][bold]CG1963[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantam idiot[/bold] wrote: right clowns you have slagged this woman all day long lets put the record straight she went down to city ground to ask how she could purchase tickets AFTER season ticket holders she did not ask any favours from anyone,she was told they would not get 1 ticket on general sale as what was left would go to corporate companies & sponsors that is why she rang the t&a rightly thinking that fans should know[/p][/quote]Garbage, over 5k are due for general sale. Speaking of which one of the reasons they were sold to through season ticket holders can be seen now on twitter. Various people trying to make a quick buck are going to be seriously found out. Every sale today is allocated to a season ticket. That season ticket holders details is well known by the club. If a ticket makes its way to ebay or some other method of sale it can be traced back. General sale doesn't allow for that so those looking to profit from other fans will be found out and I guess be speaking to the law as it is illegal to resell football tickets.[/p][/quote]5 thousand DUE for general sale? Do you work for the T&A or are you DBs spokesperson?. B.I said she enquired as to how she could buy tickets AFTER s/t and flexi holders and was told "not one would be on general sale".[/p][/quote]Baldwin has said they expect 5k to go on general sale, I believe him over some landlady who thinks she could get 55 tickets at the same time as the thousands of season ticket holders. No where does it say tickets will not go on general sale apart from her scaremomgering. As for going to corporates have you seen the current sales map, I very much doubt corporates will want tickets scattered all over the place. Thee Voice of Reason
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7:40am Thu 31 Jan 13

Thee Voice of Reason says...

arm grab man wrote:
How many of this bus load will be at the Gillingham game ?

Also does she and the T & A really think she is being harshly treat and should have the same right as a season ticket i think not.

Also if a third of this bus load had season tickets they could have bought the rest with their allocation and i bet they were amongst the half wits abusing the staff at VP yesterday
You are spot on.
I bet her regulars had first refusal on this bus yet she moans about the VP regulars getting first refusal on wembley tickets.
[quote][p][bold]arm grab man[/bold] wrote: How many of this bus load will be at the Gillingham game ? Also does she and the T & A really think she is being harshly treat and should have the same right as a season ticket i think not. Also if a third of this bus load had season tickets they could have bought the rest with their allocation and i bet they were amongst the half wits abusing the staff at VP yesterday[/p][/quote]You are spot on. I bet her regulars had first refusal on this bus yet she moans about the VP regulars getting first refusal on wembley tickets. Thee Voice of Reason
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8:19am Thu 31 Jan 13

macca1969 says...

CG1963 wrote:
Sashaboo2005 wrote:
I cannot understand that this story can be printed in the T&A what a joker what does she expect . People like myself who have followed Bradford for 30+ years deserve 3 tickets to Wembley and whoever we decide to take is none of there business. We have earned the right for these tickets we don't want glory hunters like her & her customers supporting Bradford they have never paid to watch them before so why should they get any preferential treatment now I seriously hope all true City supporters get to Wembley but I doubt it but it's the same in every sport whenever a big game comes along they all come out of the woodwork .
Excuse me but what makes you think you "deserve" tickets? Ive been a supporter for 42 years so do i deserve one? and as for the so called "glory hunters and the customers who have never paid to watch City" well i know a lot of her customers and they DO PAY to go and watch City play, most of them at the Gate where it is £30. Now that is what tou call SUPPORT.
Obviously supporting another team as city charge only 20 quid for games. Didn't even charge 30 quid for the semi final
[quote][p][bold]CG1963[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sashaboo2005[/bold] wrote: I cannot understand that this story can be printed in the T&A what a joker what does she expect . People like myself who have followed Bradford for 30+ years deserve 3 tickets to Wembley and whoever we decide to take is none of there business. We have earned the right for these tickets we don't want glory hunters like her & her customers supporting Bradford they have never paid to watch them before so why should they get any preferential treatment now I seriously hope all true City supporters get to Wembley but I doubt it but it's the same in every sport whenever a big game comes along they all come out of the woodwork .[/p][/quote]Excuse me but what makes you think you "deserve" tickets? Ive been a supporter for 42 years so do i deserve one? and as for the so called "glory hunters and the customers who have never paid to watch City" well i know a lot of her customers and they DO PAY to go and watch City play, most of them at the Gate where it is £30. Now that is what tou call SUPPORT.[/p][/quote]Obviously supporting another team as city charge only 20 quid for games. Didn't even charge 30 quid for the semi final macca1969
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8:51am Thu 31 Jan 13

Shadrach Dingle says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Shadrach Dingle wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Put into context, the price of a season ticket is £4 per week. How many of her regulars have 1 and a half pints a week in there. I'm guessing many so by just cutting back on 1 and a half pints a week this lot would have season tickets and guaranteed wembley tickets.
Infact at £25 for a flexicard thats 50p per week.
Her excuses are pathetic as is the mentality she could get 55 tickets on the first day before all season ticket holders who form many years have watched utter garbage.
I've seen you wittering on about flexicards and rubbishing non-season ticket holding City fans that are worried about getting a Wembley ticket all over the place. If it was that simple to think of and do can you please explain to me why the two City fans that are no longer season ticket holders that you've bought tickets for, why didn't they buy a flexicard instead of having to rely on you getting them a ticket???

For the record I'm with this fella...

'Bradford city at wembley in the cup final is historic and the fact that there giving 3 tickets per season ticket holder is bang out of order some will be taking any tom dick n harry with them for a day out n to fill seats. When real fans who dont have tickets due to work or money who cant afford season tickets but can afford to pay on a weekly basis will be watching on telly.'

Imho three tickets per person was too many. The amount of 'spares' going to non-City supporting mates/school friends and work/business colleagues could run into the thousands. It should have been limited to two as I believe genuine City fans missing out on a ticket would be a lot more willing to queue for any that went on general sale.
One of them lives in London and was a season ticket holder from 94 to 2010 before moving down there. He's managed 5 games this season 2 at home and 3 down south, not a bad effort compared to this lot jn the pub who out of 55 only 2 have a season ticket when they live on the doorstep of VP.
The other has a 1 year old daughter so has to change priorities her grandparents have stepped in as a treat with the money and an offer of babysitting for the final.
These two have seen Bradford at Grimsby, Accrington, Hartlepool, Stockport, etc so are no bandwagon jumpers.
That's funny but they're just the kind of fans you've been deriding and having a go at. In your world there's obviously one set of rules for your mates and one set of rules for everyone else. Aren't you the lucky one.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shadrach Dingle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: Put into context, the price of a season ticket is £4 per week. How many of her regulars have 1 and a half pints a week in there. I'm guessing many so by just cutting back on 1 and a half pints a week this lot would have season tickets and guaranteed wembley tickets. Infact at £25 for a flexicard thats 50p per week. Her excuses are pathetic as is the mentality she could get 55 tickets on the first day before all season ticket holders who form many years have watched utter garbage.[/p][/quote]I've seen you wittering on about flexicards and rubbishing non-season ticket holding City fans that are worried about getting a Wembley ticket all over the place. If it was that simple to think of and do can you please explain to me why the two City fans that are no longer season ticket holders that you've bought tickets for, why didn't they buy a flexicard instead of having to rely on you getting them a ticket??? For the record I'm with this fella... 'Bradford city at wembley in the cup final is historic and the fact that there giving 3 tickets per season ticket holder is bang out of order some will be taking any tom dick n harry with them for a day out n to fill seats. When real fans who dont have tickets due to work or money who cant afford season tickets but can afford to pay on a weekly basis will be watching on telly.' Imho three tickets per person was too many. The amount of 'spares' going to non-City supporting mates/school friends and work/business colleagues could run into the thousands. It should have been limited to two as I believe genuine City fans missing out on a ticket would be a lot more willing to queue for any that went on general sale.[/p][/quote]One of them lives in London and was a season ticket holder from 94 to 2010 before moving down there. He's managed 5 games this season 2 at home and 3 down south, not a bad effort compared to this lot jn the pub who out of 55 only 2 have a season ticket when they live on the doorstep of VP. The other has a 1 year old daughter so has to change priorities her grandparents have stepped in as a treat with the money and an offer of babysitting for the final. These two have seen Bradford at Grimsby, Accrington, Hartlepool, Stockport, etc so are no bandwagon jumpers.[/p][/quote]That's funny but they're just the kind of fans you've been deriding and having a go at. In your world there's obviously one set of rules for your mates and one set of rules for everyone else. Aren't you the lucky one. Shadrach Dingle
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8:53am Thu 31 Jan 13

Thee Voice of Reason says...

macca1969 wrote:
CG1963 wrote:
Sashaboo2005 wrote:
I cannot understand that this story can be printed in the T&A what a joker what does she expect . People like myself who have followed Bradford for 30+ years deserve 3 tickets to Wembley and whoever we decide to take is none of there business. We have earned the right for these tickets we don't want glory hunters like her & her customers supporting Bradford they have never paid to watch them before so why should they get any preferential treatment now I seriously hope all true City supporters get to Wembley but I doubt it but it's the same in every sport whenever a big game comes along they all come out of the woodwork .
Excuse me but what makes you think you "deserve" tickets? Ive been a supporter for 42 years so do i deserve one? and as for the so called "glory hunters and the customers who have never paid to watch City" well i know a lot of her customers and they DO PAY to go and watch City play, most of them at the Gate where it is £30. Now that is what tou call SUPPORT.
Obviously supporting another team as city charge only 20 quid for games. Didn't even charge 30 quid for the semi final
Epic fail trying to justify these superfans hahaha.
£30 on the gate lol.
[quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CG1963[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sashaboo2005[/bold] wrote: I cannot understand that this story can be printed in the T&A what a joker what does she expect . People like myself who have followed Bradford for 30+ years deserve 3 tickets to Wembley and whoever we decide to take is none of there business. We have earned the right for these tickets we don't want glory hunters like her & her customers supporting Bradford they have never paid to watch them before so why should they get any preferential treatment now I seriously hope all true City supporters get to Wembley but I doubt it but it's the same in every sport whenever a big game comes along they all come out of the woodwork .[/p][/quote]Excuse me but what makes you think you "deserve" tickets? Ive been a supporter for 42 years so do i deserve one? and as for the so called "glory hunters and the customers who have never paid to watch City" well i know a lot of her customers and they DO PAY to go and watch City play, most of them at the Gate where it is £30. Now that is what tou call SUPPORT.[/p][/quote]Obviously supporting another team as city charge only 20 quid for games. Didn't even charge 30 quid for the semi final[/p][/quote]Epic fail trying to justify these superfans hahaha. £30 on the gate lol. Thee Voice of Reason
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8:58am Thu 31 Jan 13

dannbradfc says...

Old Dave wrote:
In these days of ticket touts and premium re-selling sites, what makes her think that she would be able to walk up and buy 55 tickets for this match without being properly registered by the Football League or the FA? or at least getting in touch with the club before taking people's money? A lot of people rightly blame cheap supermarket booze prices and the smoking ban for the sorry closure of many pubs, but dont underestimate the power of the feckless landlord or landlady. So she thinks fans who watch games on the TV in her pub should have teh same ticket access as those who have paid £200 upfront to watch City without ever imagining the prospect of this final? Get real!
Exactly. There should be no complaints or criticism of the club over season tickets holders getting first choice.

Other clubs charge membership e.g. L**ds is 45 pounds just for the chance (not a certainty) of securing away match tickets.

The landlady shouldn't be looking at the club (as every club does this and quite rightly), but at her own logic/promises to her customers. She took the chance with other peoples money without certaincy which is rather silly and very risky imo.

Indeed its lucky that season tickets weren't offered the chance of 4 per person, which could easily have been the case.

Is she also saying that not one of the 55 people know someone who as a season ticket? or have one themselves? Thats an awful lot of 'fans'.....
[quote][p][bold]Old Dave[/bold] wrote: In these days of ticket touts and premium re-selling sites, what makes her think that she would be able to walk up and buy 55 tickets for this match without being properly registered by the Football League or the FA? or at least getting in touch with the club before taking people's money? A lot of people rightly blame cheap supermarket booze prices and the smoking ban for the sorry closure of many pubs, but dont underestimate the power of the feckless landlord or landlady. So she thinks fans who watch games on the TV in her pub should have teh same ticket access as those who have paid £200 upfront to watch City without ever imagining the prospect of this final? Get real![/p][/quote]Exactly. There should be no complaints or criticism of the club over season tickets holders getting first choice. Other clubs charge membership e.g. L**ds is 45 pounds just for the chance (not a certainty) of securing away match tickets. The landlady shouldn't be looking at the club (as every club does this and quite rightly), but at her own logic/promises to her customers. She took the chance with other peoples money without certaincy which is rather silly and very risky imo. Indeed its lucky that season tickets weren't offered the chance of 4 per person, which could easily have been the case. Is she also saying that not one of the 55 people know someone who as a season ticket? or have one themselves? Thats an awful lot of 'fans'..... dannbradfc
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8:58am Thu 31 Jan 13

dannbradfc says...

Old Dave wrote:
In these days of ticket touts and premium re-selling sites, what makes her think that she would be able to walk up and buy 55 tickets for this match without being properly registered by the Football League or the FA? or at least getting in touch with the club before taking people's money? A lot of people rightly blame cheap supermarket booze prices and the smoking ban for the sorry closure of many pubs, but dont underestimate the power of the feckless landlord or landlady. So she thinks fans who watch games on the TV in her pub should have teh same ticket access as those who have paid £200 upfront to watch City without ever imagining the prospect of this final? Get real!
Exactly. There should be no complaints or criticism of the club over season tickets holders getting first choice.

Other clubs charge membership e.g. L**ds is 45 pounds just for the chance (not a certainty) of securing away match tickets.

The landlady shouldn't be looking at the club (as every club does this and quite rightly), but at her own logic/promises to her customers. She took the chance with other peoples money without certaincy which is rather silly and very risky imo.

Indeed its lucky that season tickets weren't offered the chance of 4 per person, which could easily have been the case.

Is she also saying that not one of the 55 people know someone who as a season ticket? or have one themselves? Thats an awful lot of 'fans'.....
[quote][p][bold]Old Dave[/bold] wrote: In these days of ticket touts and premium re-selling sites, what makes her think that she would be able to walk up and buy 55 tickets for this match without being properly registered by the Football League or the FA? or at least getting in touch with the club before taking people's money? A lot of people rightly blame cheap supermarket booze prices and the smoking ban for the sorry closure of many pubs, but dont underestimate the power of the feckless landlord or landlady. So she thinks fans who watch games on the TV in her pub should have teh same ticket access as those who have paid £200 upfront to watch City without ever imagining the prospect of this final? Get real![/p][/quote]Exactly. There should be no complaints or criticism of the club over season tickets holders getting first choice. Other clubs charge membership e.g. L**ds is 45 pounds just for the chance (not a certainty) of securing away match tickets. The landlady shouldn't be looking at the club (as every club does this and quite rightly), but at her own logic/promises to her customers. She took the chance with other peoples money without certaincy which is rather silly and very risky imo. Indeed its lucky that season tickets weren't offered the chance of 4 per person, which could easily have been the case. Is she also saying that not one of the 55 people know someone who as a season ticket? or have one themselves? Thats an awful lot of 'fans'..... dannbradfc
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9:05am Thu 31 Jan 13

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Shadrach Dingle wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Shadrach Dingle wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Put into context, the price of a season ticket is £4 per week. How many of her regulars have 1 and a half pints a week in there. I'm guessing many so by just cutting back on 1 and a half pints a week this lot would have season tickets and guaranteed wembley tickets.
Infact at £25 for a flexicard thats 50p per week.
Her excuses are pathetic as is the mentality she could get 55 tickets on the first day before all season ticket holders who form many years have watched utter garbage.
I've seen you wittering on about flexicards and rubbishing non-season ticket holding City fans that are worried about getting a Wembley ticket all over the place. If it was that simple to think of and do can you please explain to me why the two City fans that are no longer season ticket holders that you've bought tickets for, why didn't they buy a flexicard instead of having to rely on you getting them a ticket???

For the record I'm with this fella...

'Bradford city at wembley in the cup final is historic and the fact that there giving 3 tickets per season ticket holder is bang out of order some will be taking any tom dick n harry with them for a day out n to fill seats. When real fans who dont have tickets due to work or money who cant afford season tickets but can afford to pay on a weekly basis will be watching on telly.'

Imho three tickets per person was too many. The amount of 'spares' going to non-City supporting mates/school friends and work/business colleagues could run into the thousands. It should have been limited to two as I believe genuine City fans missing out on a ticket would be a lot more willing to queue for any that went on general sale.
One of them lives in London and was a season ticket holder from 94 to 2010 before moving down there. He's managed 5 games this season 2 at home and 3 down south, not a bad effort compared to this lot jn the pub who out of 55 only 2 have a season ticket when they live on the doorstep of VP.
The other has a 1 year old daughter so has to change priorities her grandparents have stepped in as a treat with the money and an offer of babysitting for the final.
These two have seen Bradford at Grimsby, Accrington, Hartlepool, Stockport, etc so are no bandwagon jumpers.
That's funny but they're just the kind of fans you've been deriding and having a go at. In your world there's obviously one set of rules for your mates and one set of rules for everyone else. Aren't you the lucky one.
You'll find I fully support tickets to exiles over those who din't bother to show up who live up the road, so I think your somewhat getting me mixed up with someone else.
[quote][p][bold]Shadrach Dingle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shadrach Dingle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: Put into context, the price of a season ticket is £4 per week. How many of her regulars have 1 and a half pints a week in there. I'm guessing many so by just cutting back on 1 and a half pints a week this lot would have season tickets and guaranteed wembley tickets. Infact at £25 for a flexicard thats 50p per week. Her excuses are pathetic as is the mentality she could get 55 tickets on the first day before all season ticket holders who form many years have watched utter garbage.[/p][/quote]I've seen you wittering on about flexicards and rubbishing non-season ticket holding City fans that are worried about getting a Wembley ticket all over the place. If it was that simple to think of and do can you please explain to me why the two City fans that are no longer season ticket holders that you've bought tickets for, why didn't they buy a flexicard instead of having to rely on you getting them a ticket??? For the record I'm with this fella... 'Bradford city at wembley in the cup final is historic and the fact that there giving 3 tickets per season ticket holder is bang out of order some will be taking any tom dick n harry with them for a day out n to fill seats. When real fans who dont have tickets due to work or money who cant afford season tickets but can afford to pay on a weekly basis will be watching on telly.' Imho three tickets per person was too many. The amount of 'spares' going to non-City supporting mates/school friends and work/business colleagues could run into the thousands. It should have been limited to two as I believe genuine City fans missing out on a ticket would be a lot more willing to queue for any that went on general sale.[/p][/quote]One of them lives in London and was a season ticket holder from 94 to 2010 before moving down there. He's managed 5 games this season 2 at home and 3 down south, not a bad effort compared to this lot jn the pub who out of 55 only 2 have a season ticket when they live on the doorstep of VP. The other has a 1 year old daughter so has to change priorities her grandparents have stepped in as a treat with the money and an offer of babysitting for the final. These two have seen Bradford at Grimsby, Accrington, Hartlepool, Stockport, etc so are no bandwagon jumpers.[/p][/quote]That's funny but they're just the kind of fans you've been deriding and having a go at. In your world there's obviously one set of rules for your mates and one set of rules for everyone else. Aren't you the lucky one.[/p][/quote]You'll find I fully support tickets to exiles over those who din't bother to show up who live up the road, so I think your somewhat getting me mixed up with someone else. Thee Voice of Reason
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9:09am Thu 31 Jan 13

Scargutt2 says...

Christ almighty, this story is beyond belief.
Christ almighty, this story is beyond belief. Scargutt2
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9:20am Thu 31 Jan 13

NorthernBull says...

it is a bit naive ... but not as naive as city have been ...

entitle 2 per season ticket ...and then allow 13/14 seaon tickets to qualify ...

doh !! 1 million more in the bank and 5000 more happy st holders !!!!!!

that is what you call missing a trick ..
it is a bit naive ... but not as naive as city have been ... entitle 2 per season ticket ...and then allow 13/14 seaon tickets to qualify ... doh !! 1 million more in the bank and 5000 more happy st holders !!!!!! that is what you call missing a trick .. NorthernBull
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9:43am Thu 31 Jan 13

seasonticketholder says...

NorthernBull wrote:
it is a bit naive ... but not as naive as city have been ...

entitle 2 per season ticket ...and then allow 13/14 seaon tickets to qualify ...

doh !! 1 million more in the bank and 5000 more happy st holders !!!!!!

that is what you call missing a trick ..
Eloquent and correct.
[quote][p][bold]NorthernBull[/bold] wrote: it is a bit naive ... but not as naive as city have been ... entitle 2 per season ticket ...and then allow 13/14 seaon tickets to qualify ... doh !! 1 million more in the bank and 5000 more happy st holders !!!!!! that is what you call missing a trick ..[/p][/quote]Eloquent and correct. seasonticketholder
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9:44am Thu 31 Jan 13

Shadrach Dingle says...

Sashaboo2005 wrote:
I cannot understand that this story can be printed in the T&A what a joker what does she expect . People like myself who have followed Bradford for 30+ years deserve 3 tickets to Wembley and whoever we decide to take is none of there business. We have earned the right for these tickets we don't want glory hunters like her & her customers supporting Bradford they have never paid to watch them before so why should they get any preferential treatment now I seriously hope all true City supporters get to Wembley but I doubt it but it's the same in every sport whenever a big game comes along they all come out of the woodwork .
How small minded and mixed up are you? On the one hand you're saying you don't want 'glory hunters' getting tickets and in the same sentence you're saying that as a season ticket holder you, 'deserve 3 tickets to Wembley and whoever we decide to take is none of there business'.

The fact is hundreds, possibly thousands of City fans are going to miss out on the biggest game in their lifetime because selfish, pompous, people like you are giving some of their allocation to non-City fans.

There are thousands of genuine City fans that for various reasons can no longer go on a regular basis. For instance, I know several lads that went week in, week out, home and away, and still would if it wasn't for the fact they now play on a Saturday afternoon. Now, if you think a Leeds or a Man United fan deserves a Wembley ticket for no other reason than they're a mate of a Bradford City season ticket holder, rather than a City fan that's supported the club for years but can no longer go, you're an idiot.
[quote][p][bold]Sashaboo2005[/bold] wrote: I cannot understand that this story can be printed in the T&A what a joker what does she expect . People like myself who have followed Bradford for 30+ years deserve 3 tickets to Wembley and whoever we decide to take is none of there business. We have earned the right for these tickets we don't want glory hunters like her & her customers supporting Bradford they have never paid to watch them before so why should they get any preferential treatment now I seriously hope all true City supporters get to Wembley but I doubt it but it's the same in every sport whenever a big game comes along they all come out of the woodwork .[/p][/quote]How small minded and mixed up are you? On the one hand you're saying you don't want 'glory hunters' getting tickets and in the same sentence you're saying that as a season ticket holder you, 'deserve 3 tickets to Wembley and whoever we decide to take is none of there business'. The fact is hundreds, possibly thousands of City fans are going to miss out on the biggest game in their lifetime because selfish, pompous, people like you are giving some of their allocation to non-City fans. There are thousands of genuine City fans that for various reasons can no longer go on a regular basis. For instance, I know several lads that went week in, week out, home and away, and still would if it wasn't for the fact they now play on a Saturday afternoon. Now, if you think a Leeds or a Man United fan deserves a Wembley ticket for no other reason than they're a mate of a Bradford City season ticket holder, rather than a City fan that's supported the club for years but can no longer go, you're an idiot. Shadrach Dingle
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10:09am Thu 31 Jan 13

BigFigure says...

seasonticketholder wrote:
NorthernBull wrote:
it is a bit naive ... but not as naive as city have been ...

entitle 2 per season ticket ...and then allow 13/14 seaon tickets to qualify ...

doh !! 1 million more in the bank and 5000 more happy st holders !!!!!!

that is what you call missing a trick ..
Eloquent and correct.
Dave Baldwin hinted during Monday's radio interview that this might happen...
[quote][p][bold]seasonticketholder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NorthernBull[/bold] wrote: it is a bit naive ... but not as naive as city have been ... entitle 2 per season ticket ...and then allow 13/14 seaon tickets to qualify ... doh !! 1 million more in the bank and 5000 more happy st holders !!!!!! that is what you call missing a trick ..[/p][/quote]Eloquent and correct.[/p][/quote]Dave Baldwin hinted during Monday's radio interview that this might happen... BigFigure
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10:34am Thu 31 Jan 13

Oldwestbowling says...

Well said Shadrach. It's right and proper that season ticket holders get tickets first, but why 3? If those spare tickets are going to be used by people who don't follow City through thick and thin, what's the difference between them and 2nd West customers? I know one woman who's going with her husband and she hates football! Work that one out.
Well said Shadrach. It's right and proper that season ticket holders get tickets first, but why 3? If those spare tickets are going to be used by people who don't follow City through thick and thin, what's the difference between them and 2nd West customers? I know one woman who's going with her husband and she hates football! Work that one out. Oldwestbowling
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10:55am Thu 31 Jan 13

KnightMcCall says...

Oldwestbowling wrote:
Well said Shadrach. It's right and proper that season ticket holders get tickets first, but why 3? If those spare tickets are going to be used by people who don't follow City through thick and thin, what's the difference between them and 2nd West customers? I know one woman who's going with her husband and she hates football! Work that one out.
You are not vey bright are you. The people who "follow City through thick and thin" ARE getting tickets. These people are called season ticket holders and they have 3 tickets each...
[quote][p][bold]Oldwestbowling[/bold] wrote: Well said Shadrach. It's right and proper that season ticket holders get tickets first, but why 3? If those spare tickets are going to be used by people who don't follow City through thick and thin, what's the difference between them and 2nd West customers? I know one woman who's going with her husband and she hates football! Work that one out.[/p][/quote]You are not vey bright are you. The people who "follow City through thick and thin" ARE getting tickets. These people are called season ticket holders and they have 3 tickets each... KnightMcCall
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11:03am Thu 31 Jan 13

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Also the biggest point missed here is there will be about 5-6k on general sale.

If these people want these tickets they can queue for them to secure themselves a ticket. If they are superfans then they won't mind waiting to secure the 5-6k that will remain.

The story is poorly written suggesting there would be none for general sale because even if every season ticket holder took their full allocation there would still be seats left anyway.

Poor reporting and scaremongering.

So prepare to queue if you want them.
Also the biggest point missed here is there will be about 5-6k on general sale. If these people want these tickets they can queue for them to secure themselves a ticket. If they are superfans then they won't mind waiting to secure the 5-6k that will remain. The story is poorly written suggesting there would be none for general sale because even if every season ticket holder took their full allocation there would still be seats left anyway. Poor reporting and scaremongering. So prepare to queue if you want them. Thee Voice of Reason
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11:05am Thu 31 Jan 13

bantam idiot says...

do you lot not listen she did not try to ticket jump she asked how to buy them when they went on general sale
do you lot not listen she did not try to ticket jump she asked how to buy them when they went on general sale bantam idiot
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11:08am Thu 31 Jan 13

Sandy lane bantam says...

Something is really confusing me. The amount of people claiming to have had season tickets for years but couldn't this year is amazing. Surely then our attendances should have been near 20k over the last 10 years and yet they haven't been?! The average attendance has been basically season tickets plus away fans for years!

I still can't understand the logic of I can't afford a season ticket or flexi but can afford to go to Wembley.

Strange logic going on!
Something is really confusing me. The amount of people claiming to have had season tickets for years but couldn't this year is amazing. Surely then our attendances should have been near 20k over the last 10 years and yet they haven't been?! The average attendance has been basically season tickets plus away fans for years! I still can't understand the logic of I can't afford a season ticket or flexi but can afford to go to Wembley. Strange logic going on! Sandy lane bantam
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11:17am Thu 31 Jan 13

nottrue92 says...

Shadrach Dingle wrote:
Sashaboo2005 wrote:
I cannot understand that this story can be printed in the T&A what a joker what does she expect . People like myself who have followed Bradford for 30+ years deserve 3 tickets to Wembley and whoever we decide to take is none of there business. We have earned the right for these tickets we don't want glory hunters like her & her customers supporting Bradford they have never paid to watch them before so why should they get any preferential treatment now I seriously hope all true City supporters get to Wembley but I doubt it but it's the same in every sport whenever a big game comes along they all come out of the woodwork .
How small minded and mixed up are you? On the one hand you're saying you don't want 'glory hunters' getting tickets and in the same sentence you're saying that as a season ticket holder you, 'deserve 3 tickets to Wembley and whoever we decide to take is none of there business'.

The fact is hundreds, possibly thousands of City fans are going to miss out on the biggest game in their lifetime because selfish, pompous, people like you are giving some of their allocation to non-City fans.

There are thousands of genuine City fans that for various reasons can no longer go on a regular basis. For instance, I know several lads that went week in, week out, home and away, and still would if it wasn't for the fact they now play on a Saturday afternoon. Now, if you think a Leeds or a Man United fan deserves a Wembley ticket for no other reason than they're a mate of a Bradford City season ticket holder, rather than a City fan that's supported the club for years but can no longer go, you're an idiot.
Suddenly the ST holders are terrible people who are taking Leeds and Man Utd fans to the game?! Stop making this rubbish up! The majority of people I know who are using their allocation are getting them for people who ARE City fans and are those people who have been going for years but in the last couple of years have not got a ST. Suggesting people are just 'taking anybody' is rubbish. Surely it is preferable that ST holders choose who gets there based on actually supporting city than a load of touts put over inflated prices on the tickets and potentially leave a half empty ground?
[quote][p][bold]Shadrach Dingle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sashaboo2005[/bold] wrote: I cannot understand that this story can be printed in the T&A what a joker what does she expect . People like myself who have followed Bradford for 30+ years deserve 3 tickets to Wembley and whoever we decide to take is none of there business. We have earned the right for these tickets we don't want glory hunters like her & her customers supporting Bradford they have never paid to watch them before so why should they get any preferential treatment now I seriously hope all true City supporters get to Wembley but I doubt it but it's the same in every sport whenever a big game comes along they all come out of the woodwork .[/p][/quote]How small minded and mixed up are you? On the one hand you're saying you don't want 'glory hunters' getting tickets and in the same sentence you're saying that as a season ticket holder you, 'deserve 3 tickets to Wembley and whoever we decide to take is none of there business'. The fact is hundreds, possibly thousands of City fans are going to miss out on the biggest game in their lifetime because selfish, pompous, people like you are giving some of their allocation to non-City fans. There are thousands of genuine City fans that for various reasons can no longer go on a regular basis. For instance, I know several lads that went week in, week out, home and away, and still would if it wasn't for the fact they now play on a Saturday afternoon. Now, if you think a Leeds or a Man United fan deserves a Wembley ticket for no other reason than they're a mate of a Bradford City season ticket holder, rather than a City fan that's supported the club for years but can no longer go, you're an idiot.[/p][/quote]Suddenly the ST holders are terrible people who are taking Leeds and Man Utd fans to the game?! Stop making this rubbish up! The majority of people I know who are using their allocation are getting them for people who ARE City fans and are those people who have been going for years but in the last couple of years have not got a ST. Suggesting people are just 'taking anybody' is rubbish. Surely it is preferable that ST holders choose who gets there based on actually supporting city than a load of touts put over inflated prices on the tickets and potentially leave a half empty ground? nottrue92
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11:20am Thu 31 Jan 13

Thee Voice of Reason says...

bantam idiot wrote:
do you lot not listen she did not try to ticket jump she asked how to buy them when they went on general sale
"But last night she spoke of her frustration after discovering Wembley tickets would only be available to season ticket holders when they go on sale today."

Must be bad reporting because that is what is said above.
[quote][p][bold]bantam idiot[/bold] wrote: do you lot not listen she did not try to ticket jump she asked how to buy them when they went on general sale[/p][/quote]"But last night she spoke of her frustration after discovering Wembley tickets would only be available to season ticket holders when they go on sale today." Must be bad reporting because that is what is said above. Thee Voice of Reason
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11:25am Thu 31 Jan 13

Andy2010 says...

Shadrach Dingle wrote:
Sashaboo2005 wrote:
I cannot understand that this story can be printed in the T&A what a joker what does she expect . People like myself who have followed Bradford for 30+ years deserve 3 tickets to Wembley and whoever we decide to take is none of there business. We have earned the right for these tickets we don't want glory hunters like her & her customers supporting Bradford they have never paid to watch them before so why should they get any preferential treatment now I seriously hope all true City supporters get to Wembley but I doubt it but it's the same in every sport whenever a big game comes along they all come out of the woodwork .
How small minded and mixed up are you? On the one hand you're saying you don't want 'glory hunters' getting tickets and in the same sentence you're saying that as a season ticket holder you, 'deserve 3 tickets to Wembley and whoever we decide to take is none of there business'.

The fact is hundreds, possibly thousands of City fans are going to miss out on the biggest game in their lifetime because selfish, pompous, people like you are giving some of their allocation to non-City fans.

There are thousands of genuine City fans that for various reasons can no longer go on a regular basis. For instance, I know several lads that went week in, week out, home and away, and still would if it wasn't for the fact they now play on a Saturday afternoon. Now, if you think a Leeds or a Man United fan deserves a Wembley ticket for no other reason than they're a mate of a Bradford City season ticket holder, rather than a City fan that's supported the club for years but can no longer go, you're an idiot.
Well said

Obviously most would agree season ticket holders should have priority but why 3 tickets. I know of two people who have secured them yesterday and are selling their "spare" 2 tickets should the need arise later and there is demand.

Also the idiot spouting drivel about "ive been a fan for 20 years" blah blah blah cant see the bigger picture that the allocation of non season ticket holders who attend will drive up season tickets for next season. Also I have "followed" city for nearly 30 years now and admit havent been a regular season ticket holder but that doesnt mean Im a "glory hunter" or some of the names being banded around here.

If the stupidity of some posters on here is anything to go by the team look destined to wallow in the lower divisions for years to come. Look at Man U for example. They realise season tickets dont really generate any money in comparison to the brand value they produce and I would guess most of their income is generated from such "glory hunters" but they know the "glory Hunters" deliver the funding to keep the club ticking over which in turn leads to success

Obviously the posters around here spouting cr4p are too stupid to realise this and would hazard a guess they would be happy to wallow in the bottom league with their 10k a week fans going nowhere because the money isnt there.

Idiots
[quote][p][bold]Shadrach Dingle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sashaboo2005[/bold] wrote: I cannot understand that this story can be printed in the T&A what a joker what does she expect . People like myself who have followed Bradford for 30+ years deserve 3 tickets to Wembley and whoever we decide to take is none of there business. We have earned the right for these tickets we don't want glory hunters like her & her customers supporting Bradford they have never paid to watch them before so why should they get any preferential treatment now I seriously hope all true City supporters get to Wembley but I doubt it but it's the same in every sport whenever a big game comes along they all come out of the woodwork .[/p][/quote]How small minded and mixed up are you? On the one hand you're saying you don't want 'glory hunters' getting tickets and in the same sentence you're saying that as a season ticket holder you, 'deserve 3 tickets to Wembley and whoever we decide to take is none of there business'. The fact is hundreds, possibly thousands of City fans are going to miss out on the biggest game in their lifetime because selfish, pompous, people like you are giving some of their allocation to non-City fans. There are thousands of genuine City fans that for various reasons can no longer go on a regular basis. For instance, I know several lads that went week in, week out, home and away, and still would if it wasn't for the fact they now play on a Saturday afternoon. Now, if you think a Leeds or a Man United fan deserves a Wembley ticket for no other reason than they're a mate of a Bradford City season ticket holder, rather than a City fan that's supported the club for years but can no longer go, you're an idiot.[/p][/quote]Well said Obviously most would agree season ticket holders should have priority but why 3 tickets. I know of two people who have secured them yesterday and are selling their "spare" 2 tickets should the need arise later and there is demand. Also the idiot spouting drivel about "ive been a fan for 20 years" blah blah blah cant see the bigger picture that the allocation of non season ticket holders who attend will drive up season tickets for next season. Also I have "followed" city for nearly 30 years now and admit havent been a regular season ticket holder but that doesnt mean Im a "glory hunter" or some of the names being banded around here. If the stupidity of some posters on here is anything to go by the team look destined to wallow in the lower divisions for years to come. Look at Man U for example. They realise season tickets dont really generate any money in comparison to the brand value they produce and I would guess most of their income is generated from such "glory hunters" but they know the "glory Hunters" deliver the funding to keep the club ticking over which in turn leads to success Obviously the posters around here spouting cr4p are too stupid to realise this and would hazard a guess they would be happy to wallow in the bottom league with their 10k a week fans going nowhere because the money isnt there. Idiots Andy2010
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11:42am Thu 31 Jan 13

Thee Voice of Reason says...

You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest.

Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow.

There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade.

We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets?

I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.
You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories. Thee Voice of Reason
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11:43am Thu 31 Jan 13

audal says...

I bought just one ticket because that's all i need, likewise other friends did the same. because i do not know anybody who doesn't go to the league matches.
I bought just one ticket because that's all i need, likewise other friends did the same. because i do not know anybody who doesn't go to the league matches. audal
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11:52am Thu 31 Jan 13

Andy2010 says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest.

Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow.

There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade.

We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets?

I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.
What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders.

The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night.

What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc.

No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.[/p][/quote]What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc) Andy2010
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12:05pm Thu 31 Jan 13

czechbantam says...

joeybcfc wrote:
PaddyBantam wrote: Correct this woman is obviously deluded. What has stood out for me since City made it to the final is the incredible attitudes of the average City fan or is it the average T&A reader, all i have been able to take from it is the people are all about me, its me me me, what about me, i deserve it, he does not. What should be a time of enjoyment has only served to bring out the selfish disgusting nature of certain City 'fans', to be honest reading some of these comments not just on this thread but on others too have made me feel sick and angry, i'm just hoping that if ever there was a crisis that involved a life and death situation, that i am not in the company of certain city fans or T&A readers with their i'm alright jack and everyone for themselves attitude or the me myself and I. I agree the season/flexi holders should get priority, but don't believe they should get three tickets, why should they? should it not be one ticket or maybe two, but why three? For those who don't have a ticket as some have said there will be no doubt be around 4,5 or 6k available for general sale on a first come first served basis, once the me myself and I brigade have their tickets of course. From being proud about the achievement of City i'm now slightly embarrassed about my fellow Bradfordians attitudes towards ticket allocations and who does or doesn't deserve a ticket
Couldn't agree more paddy bantam,the people on here sound like a bunch of five year olds.why don't they ask wembley to separate all the non season ticket holders who have got a ticket so we know who the scum are.
What an absolute 'lump' you, 5 year olds from your inane comments, you must be very close to that age.
[quote][p][bold]joeybcfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PaddyBantam[/bold] wrote: Correct this woman is obviously deluded. What has stood out for me since City made it to the final is the incredible attitudes of the average City fan or is it the average T&A reader, all i have been able to take from it is the people are all about me, its me me me, what about me, i deserve it, he does not. What should be a time of enjoyment has only served to bring out the selfish disgusting nature of certain City 'fans', to be honest reading some of these comments not just on this thread but on others too have made me feel sick and angry, i'm just hoping that if ever there was a crisis that involved a life and death situation, that i am not in the company of certain city fans or T&A readers with their i'm alright jack and everyone for themselves attitude or the me myself and I. I agree the season/flexi holders should get priority, but don't believe they should get three tickets, why should they? should it not be one ticket or maybe two, but why three? For those who don't have a ticket as some have said there will be no doubt be around 4,5 or 6k available for general sale on a first come first served basis, once the me myself and I brigade have their tickets of course. From being proud about the achievement of City i'm now slightly embarrassed about my fellow Bradfordians attitudes towards ticket allocations and who does or doesn't deserve a ticket[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more paddy bantam,the people on here sound like a bunch of five year olds.why don't they ask wembley to separate all the non season ticket holders who have got a ticket so we know who the scum are.[/p][/quote]What an absolute 'lump' you, 5 year olds from your inane comments, you must be very close to that age. czechbantam
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12:16pm Thu 31 Jan 13

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.
What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)
Your argument is totally flawed.

The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket.

This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.[/p][/quote]What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)[/p][/quote]Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support. Thee Voice of Reason
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12:23pm Thu 31 Jan 13

Andy2010 says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.
What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)
Your argument is totally flawed.

The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket.

This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.
You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol

The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season.

Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.[/p][/quote]What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)[/p][/quote]Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.[/p][/quote]You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters. Andy2010
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12:27pm Thu 31 Jan 13

theoutsider says...

Can we close this innane debate please its boring. Season ticket holders got 3 tickets, the club wanted and trusted us the supporters with the tickets.

If you want to be at Wembley get off the forums and start putting the ground work in to get yourself sorted. You might have yet have a chance to be there !.
Can we close this innane debate please its boring. Season ticket holders got 3 tickets, the club wanted and trusted us the supporters with the tickets. If you want to be at Wembley get off the forums and start putting the ground work in to get yourself sorted. You might have yet have a chance to be there !. theoutsider
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12:27pm Thu 31 Jan 13

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.
What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)
Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.
You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.
Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards.

Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size.

#clueless
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.[/p][/quote]What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)[/p][/quote]Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.[/p][/quote]You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.[/p][/quote]Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards. Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size. #clueless Thee Voice of Reason
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12:28pm Thu 31 Jan 13

KnightMcCall says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest.

Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow.

There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade.

We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets?

I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.
Very well put.

I've not read a single argument that shows the 3 tickets per ST/Flexi card holder wasn't the best way of dealing with this.

As for anyone suggesting that "new" fans can be drawn in by a trip to Wembley; you are talking nonsense. 32,000 went to Wembley in 1996; where did they go in 1997 because they sure as hell didn't become season ticket holders. If people are going to be attracted to City as a result of this cup run then the TV coverage is just as likely to get people interested as going to the game.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.[/p][/quote]Very well put. I've not read a single argument that shows the 3 tickets per ST/Flexi card holder wasn't the best way of dealing with this. As for anyone suggesting that "new" fans can be drawn in by a trip to Wembley; you are talking nonsense. 32,000 went to Wembley in 1996; where did they go in 1997 because they sure as hell didn't become season ticket holders. If people are going to be attracted to City as a result of this cup run then the TV coverage is just as likely to get people interested as going to the game. KnightMcCall
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12:34pm Thu 31 Jan 13

Andy2010 says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.
What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)
Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.
You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.
Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards.

Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size.

#clueless
#idiot

have a look at the accounts. £1.5m minus the costs of administering probably drives the profit down to around £900k. If you believe £900k is BCFC's major revenue income you are as misguided as some of the other idiots on here
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.[/p][/quote]What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)[/p][/quote]Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.[/p][/quote]You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.[/p][/quote]Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards. Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size. #clueless[/p][/quote]#idiot have a look at the accounts. £1.5m minus the costs of administering probably drives the profit down to around £900k. If you believe £900k is BCFC's major revenue income you are as misguided as some of the other idiots on here Andy2010
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12:36pm Thu 31 Jan 13

Oldwestbowling says...

KnightMcCall wrote:
Oldwestbowling wrote:
Well said Shadrach. It's right and proper that season ticket holders get tickets first, but why 3? If those spare tickets are going to be used by people who don't follow City through thick and thin, what's the difference between them and 2nd West customers? I know one woman who's going with her husband and she hates football! Work that one out.
You are not vey bright are you. The people who "follow City through thick and thin" ARE getting tickets. These people are called season ticket holders and they have 3 tickets each...
Perhaps you should read what's written before you spout off with silly insults. I wrote "If those spare tickets are going to be used by people who don't follow City through thick and thin, what's the difference between them and 2nd West customers?". The operative word being "DON'T" meaning DO NOT!!
[quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oldwestbowling[/bold] wrote: Well said Shadrach. It's right and proper that season ticket holders get tickets first, but why 3? If those spare tickets are going to be used by people who don't follow City through thick and thin, what's the difference between them and 2nd West customers? I know one woman who's going with her husband and she hates football! Work that one out.[/p][/quote]You are not vey bright are you. The people who "follow City through thick and thin" ARE getting tickets. These people are called season ticket holders and they have 3 tickets each...[/p][/quote]Perhaps you should read what's written before you spout off with silly insults. I wrote "If those spare tickets are going to be used by people who don't follow City through thick and thin, what's the difference between them and 2nd West customers?". The operative word being "DON'T" meaning DO NOT!! Oldwestbowling
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12:44pm Thu 31 Jan 13

Andy2010 says...

Oldwestbowling wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
Oldwestbowling wrote:
Well said Shadrach. It's right and proper that season ticket holders get tickets first, but why 3? If those spare tickets are going to be used by people who don't follow City through thick and thin, what's the difference between them and 2nd West customers? I know one woman who's going with her husband and she hates football! Work that one out.
You are not vey bright are you. The people who "follow City through thick and thin" ARE getting tickets. These people are called season ticket holders and they have 3 tickets each...
Perhaps you should read what's written before you spout off with silly insults. I wrote "If those spare tickets are going to be used by people who don't follow City through thick and thin, what's the difference between them and 2nd West customers?". The operative word being "DON'T" meaning DO NOT!!
Your right

Some of the so called "supporters" on here appear to have the mentality of primary school children

"its our gang and you cant join"

its pathetic really
[quote][p][bold]Oldwestbowling[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oldwestbowling[/bold] wrote: Well said Shadrach. It's right and proper that season ticket holders get tickets first, but why 3? If those spare tickets are going to be used by people who don't follow City through thick and thin, what's the difference between them and 2nd West customers? I know one woman who's going with her husband and she hates football! Work that one out.[/p][/quote]You are not vey bright are you. The people who "follow City through thick and thin" ARE getting tickets. These people are called season ticket holders and they have 3 tickets each...[/p][/quote]Perhaps you should read what's written before you spout off with silly insults. I wrote "If those spare tickets are going to be used by people who don't follow City through thick and thin, what's the difference between them and 2nd West customers?". The operative word being "DON'T" meaning DO NOT!![/p][/quote]Your right Some of the so called "supporters" on here appear to have the mentality of primary school children "its our gang and you cant join" its pathetic really Andy2010
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12:44pm Thu 31 Jan 13

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.
What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)
Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.
You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.
Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards. Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size. #clueless
#idiot have a look at the accounts. £1.5m minus the costs of administering probably drives the profit down to around £900k. If you believe £900k is BCFC's major revenue income you are as misguided as some of the other idiots on here
For a club like Bradford £1.5m is not an insignificant amount. You'd think we were bringing in Premiership TV money the way your talking.
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.[/p][/quote]What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)[/p][/quote]Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.[/p][/quote]You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.[/p][/quote]Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards. Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size. #clueless[/p][/quote]#idiot have a look at the accounts. £1.5m minus the costs of administering probably drives the profit down to around £900k. If you believe £900k is BCFC's major revenue income you are as misguided as some of the other idiots on here[/p][/quote]For a club like Bradford £1.5m is not an insignificant amount. You'd think we were bringing in Premiership TV money the way your talking. Thee Voice of Reason
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12:54pm Thu 31 Jan 13

thebantammenace says...

A lot of assumptions going on on here. Who's to say all 10,000 ST and FC holders are gonna buy 3 tickets each? Myself and 9 other mates are ST holders and between us we're getting 20 tickets, so that's 10 that'll be going on general sale, and that's just us!
A lot of assumptions going on on here. Who's to say all 10,000 ST and FC holders are gonna buy 3 tickets each? Myself and 9 other mates are ST holders and between us we're getting 20 tickets, so that's 10 that'll be going on general sale, and that's just us! thebantammenace
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12:55pm Thu 31 Jan 13

Andy2010 says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.
What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)
Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.
You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.
Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards. Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size. #clueless
#idiot have a look at the accounts. £1.5m minus the costs of administering probably drives the profit down to around £900k. If you believe £900k is BCFC's major revenue income you are as misguided as some of the other idiots on here
For a club like Bradford £1.5m is not an insignificant amount. You'd think we were bringing in Premiership TV money the way your talking.
Go have a look at the accounts and come back and comment please

BRADFORD CITY FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED
VALLEY PARADE
BRADFORD
WEST YORKSHIRE
BD8 7DY
Company No. 05102915

Feel free to have a look at companies house and come back and comment please
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.[/p][/quote]What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)[/p][/quote]Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.[/p][/quote]You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.[/p][/quote]Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards. Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size. #clueless[/p][/quote]#idiot have a look at the accounts. £1.5m minus the costs of administering probably drives the profit down to around £900k. If you believe £900k is BCFC's major revenue income you are as misguided as some of the other idiots on here[/p][/quote]For a club like Bradford £1.5m is not an insignificant amount. You'd think we were bringing in Premiership TV money the way your talking.[/p][/quote]Go have a look at the accounts and come back and comment please BRADFORD CITY FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED VALLEY PARADE BRADFORD WEST YORKSHIRE BD8 7DY Company No. 05102915 Feel free to have a look at companies house and come back and comment please Andy2010
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1:06pm Thu 31 Jan 13

Hockens Hey says...

It's irrelevant how long someone's been a city fan. How long they used to have a season ticket. How many away games they've been to.
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The fans who saw the promise of PP and backed the team this season by buying season tickets are getting their reward.
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They made the investment. They reap the rewards.
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There was ample time to purchase season tickets. Enough publicity. Enough talk of the more you buy the more money for players.
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The sense of entitlement of some who chose not to join in the journey this season is wearing.
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The only thing to do is to join the queue for the 5k that will go on sale, or ask a season ticket holding friend for one of their three.
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There really is no problem.
It's irrelevant how long someone's been a city fan. How long they used to have a season ticket. How many away games they've been to. . The fans who saw the promise of PP and backed the team this season by buying season tickets are getting their reward. . They made the investment. They reap the rewards. . There was ample time to purchase season tickets. Enough publicity. Enough talk of the more you buy the more money for players. . The sense of entitlement of some who chose not to join in the journey this season is wearing. . The only thing to do is to join the queue for the 5k that will go on sale, or ask a season ticket holding friend for one of their three. . There really is no problem. Hockens Hey
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1:06pm Thu 31 Jan 13

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.
What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)
Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.
You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.
Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards. Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size. #clueless
#idiot have a look at the accounts. £1.5m minus the costs of administering probably drives the profit down to around £900k. If you believe £900k is BCFC's major revenue income you are as misguided as some of the other idiots on here
For a club like Bradford £1.5m is not an insignificant amount. You'd think we were bringing in Premiership TV money the way your talking.
Go have a look at the accounts and come back and comment please BRADFORD CITY FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED VALLEY PARADE BRADFORD WEST YORKSHIRE BD8 7DY Company No. 05102915 Feel free to have a look at companies house and come back and comment please
What do you want me to tell you other than the accounts filed are based on small company status meaning they don't require audit so are below £6.5m in turnover which would mean that season ticket sale equate to at least a quarter of all income to the club.

How many companies do you know who could do without a quarter of their income?

Also the accounts filed at companies house do not include a P&L.
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.[/p][/quote]What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)[/p][/quote]Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.[/p][/quote]You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.[/p][/quote]Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards. Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size. #clueless[/p][/quote]#idiot have a look at the accounts. £1.5m minus the costs of administering probably drives the profit down to around £900k. If you believe £900k is BCFC's major revenue income you are as misguided as some of the other idiots on here[/p][/quote]For a club like Bradford £1.5m is not an insignificant amount. You'd think we were bringing in Premiership TV money the way your talking.[/p][/quote]Go have a look at the accounts and come back and comment please BRADFORD CITY FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED VALLEY PARADE BRADFORD WEST YORKSHIRE BD8 7DY Company No. 05102915 Feel free to have a look at companies house and come back and comment please[/p][/quote]What do you want me to tell you other than the accounts filed are based on small company status meaning they don't require audit so are below £6.5m in turnover which would mean that season ticket sale equate to at least a quarter of all income to the club. How many companies do you know who could do without a quarter of their income? Also the accounts filed at companies house do not include a P&L. Thee Voice of Reason
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1:18pm Thu 31 Jan 13

Andy2010 says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.
What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)
Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.
You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.
Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards. Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size. #clueless
#idiot have a look at the accounts. £1.5m minus the costs of administering probably drives the profit down to around £900k. If you believe £900k is BCFC's major revenue income you are as misguided as some of the other idiots on here
For a club like Bradford £1.5m is not an insignificant amount. You'd think we were bringing in Premiership TV money the way your talking.
Go have a look at the accounts and come back and comment please BRADFORD CITY FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED VALLEY PARADE BRADFORD WEST YORKSHIRE BD8 7DY Company No. 05102915 Feel free to have a look at companies house and come back and comment please
What do you want me to tell you other than the accounts filed are based on small company status meaning they don't require audit so are below £6.5m in turnover which would mean that season ticket sale equate to at least a quarter of all income to the club.

How many companies do you know who could do without a quarter of their income?

Also the accounts filed at companies house do not include a P&L.
I'm not saying they could do without it

I'm stressing that the turnover generated from the season tickets is only 25% of the income of the club...thats all Ive been saying all along...theres a bigger picture than the "them and us" attitude being banded around here
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.[/p][/quote]What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)[/p][/quote]Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.[/p][/quote]You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.[/p][/quote]Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards. Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size. #clueless[/p][/quote]#idiot have a look at the accounts. £1.5m minus the costs of administering probably drives the profit down to around £900k. If you believe £900k is BCFC's major revenue income you are as misguided as some of the other idiots on here[/p][/quote]For a club like Bradford £1.5m is not an insignificant amount. You'd think we were bringing in Premiership TV money the way your talking.[/p][/quote]Go have a look at the accounts and come back and comment please BRADFORD CITY FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED VALLEY PARADE BRADFORD WEST YORKSHIRE BD8 7DY Company No. 05102915 Feel free to have a look at companies house and come back and comment please[/p][/quote]What do you want me to tell you other than the accounts filed are based on small company status meaning they don't require audit so are below £6.5m in turnover which would mean that season ticket sale equate to at least a quarter of all income to the club. How many companies do you know who could do without a quarter of their income? Also the accounts filed at companies house do not include a P&L.[/p][/quote]I'm not saying they could do without it I'm stressing that the turnover generated from the season tickets is only 25% of the income of the club...thats all Ive been saying all along...theres a bigger picture than the "them and us" attitude being banded around here Andy2010
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1:21pm Thu 31 Jan 13

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

To any people who are unaware as to how and why the amount of tickets per ST/FLexi holder came about.

The club worked out on a ratio basis afet analysing the uptake of previous cup matches, this worked out at 1.8 PP out of a capacity crowd of 23.5k

As we have an allocation of just under 32k the club applied the same ratio to availability and are distributing on that basis. Therefore the amount of tickets that can be bought under those standards is 3 per ST/Flexi. This not only rewards loyalty but leaves a good chunk to go on general sale.

As we have never breached 20k for a league game even when giving tickets away or charging £1 entry I cannot see how any one person can complain they haven't or cannot get a ticket.

If you are loyal and go regularly you will get a ticket, if you are patient and prepared to be up in time to get in the online queue(registration probbaly needed) or call the hotline on the day of general sale I am sure you will get a ticket.

Finally, if you see any tickets offered for sale anywhere but the club, and a few legal ticketmaster type sites, report this to the club as this will be an illegal sale and those tickets may have to be blocked and put back up for resale, hopefully costing those trying to make a buck out of it and making tickets available for those who for whatever reason are currently unable to purchase one or think they may miss out.
To any people who are unaware as to how and why the amount of tickets per ST/FLexi holder came about. The club worked out on a ratio basis afet analysing the uptake of previous cup matches, this worked out at 1.8 PP out of a capacity crowd of 23.5k As we have an allocation of just under 32k the club applied the same ratio to availability and are distributing on that basis. Therefore the amount of tickets that can be bought under those standards is 3 per ST/Flexi. This not only rewards loyalty but leaves a good chunk to go on general sale. As we have never breached 20k for a league game even when giving tickets away or charging £1 entry I cannot see how any one person can complain they haven't or cannot get a ticket. If you are loyal and go regularly you will get a ticket, if you are patient and prepared to be up in time to get in the online queue(registration probbaly needed) or call the hotline on the day of general sale I am sure you will get a ticket. Finally, if you see any tickets offered for sale anywhere but the club, and a few legal ticketmaster type sites, report this to the club as this will be an illegal sale and those tickets may have to be blocked and put back up for resale, hopefully costing those trying to make a buck out of it and making tickets available for those who for whatever reason are currently unable to purchase one or think they may miss out. Prisoner Cell Block A
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1:23pm Thu 31 Jan 13

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.
What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)
Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.
You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.
Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards. Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size. #clueless
#idiot have a look at the accounts. £1.5m minus the costs of administering probably drives the profit down to around £900k. If you believe £900k is BCFC's major revenue income you are as misguided as some of the other idiots on here
For a club like Bradford £1.5m is not an insignificant amount. You'd think we were bringing in Premiership TV money the way your talking.
Go have a look at the accounts and come back and comment please BRADFORD CITY FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED VALLEY PARADE BRADFORD WEST YORKSHIRE BD8 7DY Company No. 05102915 Feel free to have a look at companies house and come back and comment please
What do you want me to tell you other than the accounts filed are based on small company status meaning they don't require audit so are below £6.5m in turnover which would mean that season ticket sale equate to at least a quarter of all income to the club. How many companies do you know who could do without a quarter of their income? Also the accounts filed at companies house do not include a P&L.
I'm not saying they could do without it I'm stressing that the turnover generated from the season tickets is only 25% of the income of the club...thats all Ive been saying all along...theres a bigger picture than the "them and us" attitude being banded around here
You thought I would be clueless when it came to companies house and accounts, thats the truth.

It's not just 25% of turnover by the way, that would be if BCFC turned over just below the £6.5m ish mark they require to be fully audited. Without a profit and loss account I can't really comment on what % season ticket sales is of turnover but at the very minimum it is 25% but it's probably in truth closer to 35-40% if we estimate turnover at £4-5m.

Did you even look at the accounts yourself before you asked me too?

If you want a ticket queue up for general sale, your no special or more deserving then any other of the non season ticket holders.
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.[/p][/quote]What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)[/p][/quote]Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.[/p][/quote]You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.[/p][/quote]Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards. Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size. #clueless[/p][/quote]#idiot have a look at the accounts. £1.5m minus the costs of administering probably drives the profit down to around £900k. If you believe £900k is BCFC's major revenue income you are as misguided as some of the other idiots on here[/p][/quote]For a club like Bradford £1.5m is not an insignificant amount. You'd think we were bringing in Premiership TV money the way your talking.[/p][/quote]Go have a look at the accounts and come back and comment please BRADFORD CITY FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED VALLEY PARADE BRADFORD WEST YORKSHIRE BD8 7DY Company No. 05102915 Feel free to have a look at companies house and come back and comment please[/p][/quote]What do you want me to tell you other than the accounts filed are based on small company status meaning they don't require audit so are below £6.5m in turnover which would mean that season ticket sale equate to at least a quarter of all income to the club. How many companies do you know who could do without a quarter of their income? Also the accounts filed at companies house do not include a P&L.[/p][/quote]I'm not saying they could do without it I'm stressing that the turnover generated from the season tickets is only 25% of the income of the club...thats all Ive been saying all along...theres a bigger picture than the "them and us" attitude being banded around here[/p][/quote]You thought I would be clueless when it came to companies house and accounts, thats the truth. It's not just 25% of turnover by the way, that would be if BCFC turned over just below the £6.5m ish mark they require to be fully audited. Without a profit and loss account I can't really comment on what % season ticket sales is of turnover but at the very minimum it is 25% but it's probably in truth closer to 35-40% if we estimate turnover at £4-5m. Did you even look at the accounts yourself before you asked me too? If you want a ticket queue up for general sale, your no special or more deserving then any other of the non season ticket holders. Thee Voice of Reason
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1:31pm Thu 31 Jan 13

czechbantam says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.
What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)
Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.
You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.
Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards. Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size. #clueless
#idiot have a look at the accounts. £1.5m minus the costs of administering probably drives the profit down to around £900k. If you believe £900k is BCFC's major revenue income you are as misguided as some of the other idiots on here
For a club like Bradford £1.5m is not an insignificant amount. You'd think we were bringing in Premiership TV money the way your talking.
Go have a look at the accounts and come back and comment please BRADFORD CITY FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED VALLEY PARADE BRADFORD WEST YORKSHIRE BD8 7DY Company No. 05102915 Feel free to have a look at companies house and come back and comment please
What do you want me to tell you other than the accounts filed are based on small company status meaning they don't require audit so are below £6.5m in turnover which would mean that season ticket sale equate to at least a quarter of all income to the club. How many companies do you know who could do without a quarter of their income? Also the accounts filed at companies house do not include a P&L.
I'm not saying they could do without it I'm stressing that the turnover generated from the season tickets is only 25% of the income of the club...thats all Ive been saying all along...theres a bigger picture than the "them and us" attitude being banded around here
You thought I would be clueless when it came to companies house and accounts, thats the truth. It's not just 25% of turnover by the way, that would be if BCFC turned over just below the £6.5m ish mark they require to be fully audited. Without a profit and loss account I can't really comment on what % season ticket sales is of turnover but at the very minimum it is 25% but it's probably in truth closer to 35-40% if we estimate turnover at £4-5m. Did you even look at the accounts yourself before you asked me too? If you want a ticket queue up for general sale, your no special or more deserving then any other of the non season ticket holders.
Instead of you 2 having a 'who knows what' about running a business, why not arrange to meet each other, somewhere preferably very private and discuss away. As this conversation is not only very boring but also far removed from the original topic.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.[/p][/quote]What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)[/p][/quote]Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.[/p][/quote]You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.[/p][/quote]Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards. Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size. #clueless[/p][/quote]#idiot have a look at the accounts. £1.5m minus the costs of administering probably drives the profit down to around £900k. If you believe £900k is BCFC's major revenue income you are as misguided as some of the other idiots on here[/p][/quote]For a club like Bradford £1.5m is not an insignificant amount. You'd think we were bringing in Premiership TV money the way your talking.[/p][/quote]Go have a look at the accounts and come back and comment please BRADFORD CITY FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED VALLEY PARADE BRADFORD WEST YORKSHIRE BD8 7DY Company No. 05102915 Feel free to have a look at companies house and come back and comment please[/p][/quote]What do you want me to tell you other than the accounts filed are based on small company status meaning they don't require audit so are below £6.5m in turnover which would mean that season ticket sale equate to at least a quarter of all income to the club. How many companies do you know who could do without a quarter of their income? Also the accounts filed at companies house do not include a P&L.[/p][/quote]I'm not saying they could do without it I'm stressing that the turnover generated from the season tickets is only 25% of the income of the club...thats all Ive been saying all along...theres a bigger picture than the "them and us" attitude being banded around here[/p][/quote]You thought I would be clueless when it came to companies house and accounts, thats the truth. It's not just 25% of turnover by the way, that would be if BCFC turned over just below the £6.5m ish mark they require to be fully audited. Without a profit and loss account I can't really comment on what % season ticket sales is of turnover but at the very minimum it is 25% but it's probably in truth closer to 35-40% if we estimate turnover at £4-5m. Did you even look at the accounts yourself before you asked me too? If you want a ticket queue up for general sale, your no special or more deserving then any other of the non season ticket holders.[/p][/quote]Instead of you 2 having a 'who knows what' about running a business, why not arrange to meet each other, somewhere preferably very private and discuss away. As this conversation is not only very boring but also far removed from the original topic. czechbantam
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1:36pm Thu 31 Jan 13

Andy2010 says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.
What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)
Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.
You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.
Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards. Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size. #clueless
#idiot have a look at the accounts. £1.5m minus the costs of administering probably drives the profit down to around £900k. If you believe £900k is BCFC's major revenue income you are as misguided as some of the other idiots on here
For a club like Bradford £1.5m is not an insignificant amount. You'd think we were bringing in Premiership TV money the way your talking.
Go have a look at the accounts and come back and comment please BRADFORD CITY FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED VALLEY PARADE BRADFORD WEST YORKSHIRE BD8 7DY Company No. 05102915 Feel free to have a look at companies house and come back and comment please
What do you want me to tell you other than the accounts filed are based on small company status meaning they don't require audit so are below £6.5m in turnover which would mean that season ticket sale equate to at least a quarter of all income to the club. How many companies do you know who could do without a quarter of their income? Also the accounts filed at companies house do not include a P&L.
I'm not saying they could do without it I'm stressing that the turnover generated from the season tickets is only 25% of the income of the club...thats all Ive been saying all along...theres a bigger picture than the "them and us" attitude being banded around here
You thought I would be clueless when it came to companies house and accounts, thats the truth.

It's not just 25% of turnover by the way, that would be if BCFC turned over just below the £6.5m ish mark they require to be fully audited. Without a profit and loss account I can't really comment on what % season ticket sales is of turnover but at the very minimum it is 25% but it's probably in truth closer to 35-40% if we estimate turnover at £4-5m.

Did you even look at the accounts yourself before you asked me too?

If you want a ticket queue up for general sale, your no special or more deserving then any other of the non season ticket holders.
Well of course I did although not through companies house but through a reference agency....Anyway even at the top ended 40% its still only 40% and my point stands that it isnt everything. I havent looked but I would hazard a guess that looking at more succesful clubs the this accounts for a lot less than 40%...woudl you agree? therefore to be more succesful they need to increase the difference between the season tickets sales and commercial revenue of the club?

And I have my ticket by the way thanks for asking.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.[/p][/quote]What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)[/p][/quote]Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.[/p][/quote]You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.[/p][/quote]Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards. Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size. #clueless[/p][/quote]#idiot have a look at the accounts. £1.5m minus the costs of administering probably drives the profit down to around £900k. If you believe £900k is BCFC's major revenue income you are as misguided as some of the other idiots on here[/p][/quote]For a club like Bradford £1.5m is not an insignificant amount. You'd think we were bringing in Premiership TV money the way your talking.[/p][/quote]Go have a look at the accounts and come back and comment please BRADFORD CITY FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED VALLEY PARADE BRADFORD WEST YORKSHIRE BD8 7DY Company No. 05102915 Feel free to have a look at companies house and come back and comment please[/p][/quote]What do you want me to tell you other than the accounts filed are based on small company status meaning they don't require audit so are below £6.5m in turnover which would mean that season ticket sale equate to at least a quarter of all income to the club. How many companies do you know who could do without a quarter of their income? Also the accounts filed at companies house do not include a P&L.[/p][/quote]I'm not saying they could do without it I'm stressing that the turnover generated from the season tickets is only 25% of the income of the club...thats all Ive been saying all along...theres a bigger picture than the "them and us" attitude being banded around here[/p][/quote]You thought I would be clueless when it came to companies house and accounts, thats the truth. It's not just 25% of turnover by the way, that would be if BCFC turned over just below the £6.5m ish mark they require to be fully audited. Without a profit and loss account I can't really comment on what % season ticket sales is of turnover but at the very minimum it is 25% but it's probably in truth closer to 35-40% if we estimate turnover at £4-5m. Did you even look at the accounts yourself before you asked me too? If you want a ticket queue up for general sale, your no special or more deserving then any other of the non season ticket holders.[/p][/quote]Well of course I did although not through companies house but through a reference agency....Anyway even at the top ended 40% its still only 40% and my point stands that it isnt everything. I havent looked but I would hazard a guess that looking at more succesful clubs the this accounts for a lot less than 40%...woudl you agree? therefore to be more succesful they need to increase the difference between the season tickets sales and commercial revenue of the club? And I have my ticket by the way thanks for asking. Andy2010
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1:38pm Thu 31 Jan 13

Andy2010 says...

czechbantam wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.
What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)
Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.
You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.
Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards. Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size. #clueless
#idiot have a look at the accounts. £1.5m minus the costs of administering probably drives the profit down to around £900k. If you believe £900k is BCFC's major revenue income you are as misguided as some of the other idiots on here
For a club like Bradford £1.5m is not an insignificant amount. You'd think we were bringing in Premiership TV money the way your talking.
Go have a look at the accounts and come back and comment please BRADFORD CITY FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED VALLEY PARADE BRADFORD WEST YORKSHIRE BD8 7DY Company No. 05102915 Feel free to have a look at companies house and come back and comment please
What do you want me to tell you other than the accounts filed are based on small company status meaning they don't require audit so are below £6.5m in turnover which would mean that season ticket sale equate to at least a quarter of all income to the club. How many companies do you know who could do without a quarter of their income? Also the accounts filed at companies house do not include a P&L.
I'm not saying they could do without it I'm stressing that the turnover generated from the season tickets is only 25% of the income of the club...thats all Ive been saying all along...theres a bigger picture than the "them and us" attitude being banded around here
You thought I would be clueless when it came to companies house and accounts, thats the truth. It's not just 25% of turnover by the way, that would be if BCFC turned over just below the £6.5m ish mark they require to be fully audited. Without a profit and loss account I can't really comment on what % season ticket sales is of turnover but at the very minimum it is 25% but it's probably in truth closer to 35-40% if we estimate turnover at £4-5m. Did you even look at the accounts yourself before you asked me too? If you want a ticket queue up for general sale, your no special or more deserving then any other of the non season ticket holders.
Instead of you 2 having a 'who knows what' about running a business, why not arrange to meet each other, somewhere preferably very private and discuss away. As this conversation is not only very boring but also far removed from the original topic.
Is it? sorry were we discussing something not concerning tickets for the final...No we werent

Personnally I find people who cant quote attendances from 20 years ago boring but each to their own eh
[quote][p][bold]czechbantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.[/p][/quote]What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)[/p][/quote]Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.[/p][/quote]You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.[/p][/quote]Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards. Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size. #clueless[/p][/quote]#idiot have a look at the accounts. £1.5m minus the costs of administering probably drives the profit down to around £900k. If you believe £900k is BCFC's major revenue income you are as misguided as some of the other idiots on here[/p][/quote]For a club like Bradford £1.5m is not an insignificant amount. You'd think we were bringing in Premiership TV money the way your talking.[/p][/quote]Go have a look at the accounts and come back and comment please BRADFORD CITY FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED VALLEY PARADE BRADFORD WEST YORKSHIRE BD8 7DY Company No. 05102915 Feel free to have a look at companies house and come back and comment please[/p][/quote]What do you want me to tell you other than the accounts filed are based on small company status meaning they don't require audit so are below £6.5m in turnover which would mean that season ticket sale equate to at least a quarter of all income to the club. How many companies do you know who could do without a quarter of their income? Also the accounts filed at companies house do not include a P&L.[/p][/quote]I'm not saying they could do without it I'm stressing that the turnover generated from the season tickets is only 25% of the income of the club...thats all Ive been saying all along...theres a bigger picture than the "them and us" attitude being banded around here[/p][/quote]You thought I would be clueless when it came to companies house and accounts, thats the truth. It's not just 25% of turnover by the way, that would be if BCFC turned over just below the £6.5m ish mark they require to be fully audited. Without a profit and loss account I can't really comment on what % season ticket sales is of turnover but at the very minimum it is 25% but it's probably in truth closer to 35-40% if we estimate turnover at £4-5m. Did you even look at the accounts yourself before you asked me too? If you want a ticket queue up for general sale, your no special or more deserving then any other of the non season ticket holders.[/p][/quote]Instead of you 2 having a 'who knows what' about running a business, why not arrange to meet each other, somewhere preferably very private and discuss away. As this conversation is not only very boring but also far removed from the original topic.[/p][/quote]Is it? sorry were we discussing something not concerning tickets for the final...No we werent Personnally I find people who cant quote attendances from 20 years ago boring but each to their own eh Andy2010
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1:42pm Thu 31 Jan 13

czechbantam says...

Andy2010 wrote:
czechbantam wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.
What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)
Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.
You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.
Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards. Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size. #clueless
#idiot have a look at the accounts. £1.5m minus the costs of administering probably drives the profit down to around £900k. If you believe £900k is BCFC's major revenue income you are as misguided as some of the other idiots on here
For a club like Bradford £1.5m is not an insignificant amount. You'd think we were bringing in Premiership TV money the way your talking.
Go have a look at the accounts and come back and comment please BRADFORD CITY FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED VALLEY PARADE BRADFORD WEST YORKSHIRE BD8 7DY Company No. 05102915 Feel free to have a look at companies house and come back and comment please
What do you want me to tell you other than the accounts filed are based on small company status meaning they don't require audit so are below £6.5m in turnover which would mean that season ticket sale equate to at least a quarter of all income to the club. How many companies do you know who could do without a quarter of their income? Also the accounts filed at companies house do not include a P&L.
I'm not saying they could do without it I'm stressing that the turnover generated from the season tickets is only 25% of the income of the club...thats all Ive been saying all along...theres a bigger picture than the "them and us" attitude being banded around here
You thought I would be clueless when it came to companies house and accounts, thats the truth. It's not just 25% of turnover by the way, that would be if BCFC turned over just below the £6.5m ish mark they require to be fully audited. Without a profit and loss account I can't really comment on what % season ticket sales is of turnover but at the very minimum it is 25% but it's probably in truth closer to 35-40% if we estimate turnover at £4-5m. Did you even look at the accounts yourself before you asked me too? If you want a ticket queue up for general sale, your no special or more deserving then any other of the non season ticket holders.
Instead of you 2 having a 'who knows what' about running a business, why not arrange to meet each other, somewhere preferably very private and discuss away. As this conversation is not only very boring but also far removed from the original topic.
Is it? sorry were we discussing something not concerning tickets for the final...No we werent Personnally I find people who cant quote attendances from 20 years ago boring but each to their own eh
Andy Get a life, mate
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]czechbantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.[/p][/quote]What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)[/p][/quote]Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.[/p][/quote]You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.[/p][/quote]Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards. Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size. #clueless[/p][/quote]#idiot have a look at the accounts. £1.5m minus the costs of administering probably drives the profit down to around £900k. If you believe £900k is BCFC's major revenue income you are as misguided as some of the other idiots on here[/p][/quote]For a club like Bradford £1.5m is not an insignificant amount. You'd think we were bringing in Premiership TV money the way your talking.[/p][/quote]Go have a look at the accounts and come back and comment please BRADFORD CITY FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED VALLEY PARADE BRADFORD WEST YORKSHIRE BD8 7DY Company No. 05102915 Feel free to have a look at companies house and come back and comment please[/p][/quote]What do you want me to tell you other than the accounts filed are based on small company status meaning they don't require audit so are below £6.5m in turnover which would mean that season ticket sale equate to at least a quarter of all income to the club. How many companies do you know who could do without a quarter of their income? Also the accounts filed at companies house do not include a P&L.[/p][/quote]I'm not saying they could do without it I'm stressing that the turnover generated from the season tickets is only 25% of the income of the club...thats all Ive been saying all along...theres a bigger picture than the "them and us" attitude being banded around here[/p][/quote]You thought I would be clueless when it came to companies house and accounts, thats the truth. It's not just 25% of turnover by the way, that would be if BCFC turned over just below the £6.5m ish mark they require to be fully audited. Without a profit and loss account I can't really comment on what % season ticket sales is of turnover but at the very minimum it is 25% but it's probably in truth closer to 35-40% if we estimate turnover at £4-5m. Did you even look at the accounts yourself before you asked me too? If you want a ticket queue up for general sale, your no special or more deserving then any other of the non season ticket holders.[/p][/quote]Instead of you 2 having a 'who knows what' about running a business, why not arrange to meet each other, somewhere preferably very private and discuss away. As this conversation is not only very boring but also far removed from the original topic.[/p][/quote]Is it? sorry were we discussing something not concerning tickets for the final...No we werent Personnally I find people who cant quote attendances from 20 years ago boring but each to their own eh[/p][/quote]Andy Get a life, mate czechbantam
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1:44pm Thu 31 Jan 13

Andy2010 says...

czechbantam wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
czechbantam wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.
What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)
Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.
You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.
Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards. Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size. #clueless
#idiot have a look at the accounts. £1.5m minus the costs of administering probably drives the profit down to around £900k. If you believe £900k is BCFC's major revenue income you are as misguided as some of the other idiots on here
For a club like Bradford £1.5m is not an insignificant amount. You'd think we were bringing in Premiership TV money the way your talking.
Go have a look at the accounts and come back and comment please BRADFORD CITY FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED VALLEY PARADE BRADFORD WEST YORKSHIRE BD8 7DY Company No. 05102915 Feel free to have a look at companies house and come back and comment please
What do you want me to tell you other than the accounts filed are based on small company status meaning they don't require audit so are below £6.5m in turnover which would mean that season ticket sale equate to at least a quarter of all income to the club. How many companies do you know who could do without a quarter of their income? Also the accounts filed at companies house do not include a P&L.
I'm not saying they could do without it I'm stressing that the turnover generated from the season tickets is only 25% of the income of the club...thats all Ive been saying all along...theres a bigger picture than the "them and us" attitude being banded around here
You thought I would be clueless when it came to companies house and accounts, thats the truth. It's not just 25% of turnover by the way, that would be if BCFC turned over just below the £6.5m ish mark they require to be fully audited. Without a profit and loss account I can't really comment on what % season ticket sales is of turnover but at the very minimum it is 25% but it's probably in truth closer to 35-40% if we estimate turnover at £4-5m. Did you even look at the accounts yourself before you asked me too? If you want a ticket queue up for general sale, your no special or more deserving then any other of the non season ticket holders.
Instead of you 2 having a 'who knows what' about running a business, why not arrange to meet each other, somewhere preferably very private and discuss away. As this conversation is not only very boring but also far removed from the original topic.
Is it? sorry were we discussing something not concerning tickets for the final...No we werent Personnally I find people who cant quote attendances from 20 years ago boring but each to their own eh
Andy Get a life, mate
Sorry please explain

Why is it amongst a certain element of city supporters that unless you are praising the ground Parky walks on or hanging out in your season ticket gangs that you arent a fan and can never be one.

Just goes to show I suppose.
[quote][p][bold]czechbantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]czechbantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.[/p][/quote]What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)[/p][/quote]Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.[/p][/quote]You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.[/p][/quote]Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards. Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size. #clueless[/p][/quote]#idiot have a look at the accounts. £1.5m minus the costs of administering probably drives the profit down to around £900k. If you believe £900k is BCFC's major revenue income you are as misguided as some of the other idiots on here[/p][/quote]For a club like Bradford £1.5m is not an insignificant amount. You'd think we were bringing in Premiership TV money the way your talking.[/p][/quote]Go have a look at the accounts and come back and comment please BRADFORD CITY FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED VALLEY PARADE BRADFORD WEST YORKSHIRE BD8 7DY Company No. 05102915 Feel free to have a look at companies house and come back and comment please[/p][/quote]What do you want me to tell you other than the accounts filed are based on small company status meaning they don't require audit so are below £6.5m in turnover which would mean that season ticket sale equate to at least a quarter of all income to the club. How many companies do you know who could do without a quarter of their income? Also the accounts filed at companies house do not include a P&L.[/p][/quote]I'm not saying they could do without it I'm stressing that the turnover generated from the season tickets is only 25% of the income of the club...thats all Ive been saying all along...theres a bigger picture than the "them and us" attitude being banded around here[/p][/quote]You thought I would be clueless when it came to companies house and accounts, thats the truth. It's not just 25% of turnover by the way, that would be if BCFC turned over just below the £6.5m ish mark they require to be fully audited. Without a profit and loss account I can't really comment on what % season ticket sales is of turnover but at the very minimum it is 25% but it's probably in truth closer to 35-40% if we estimate turnover at £4-5m. Did you even look at the accounts yourself before you asked me too? If you want a ticket queue up for general sale, your no special or more deserving then any other of the non season ticket holders.[/p][/quote]Instead of you 2 having a 'who knows what' about running a business, why not arrange to meet each other, somewhere preferably very private and discuss away. As this conversation is not only very boring but also far removed from the original topic.[/p][/quote]Is it? sorry were we discussing something not concerning tickets for the final...No we werent Personnally I find people who cant quote attendances from 20 years ago boring but each to their own eh[/p][/quote]Andy Get a life, mate[/p][/quote]Sorry please explain Why is it amongst a certain element of city supporters that unless you are praising the ground Parky walks on or hanging out in your season ticket gangs that you arent a fan and can never be one. Just goes to show I suppose. Andy2010
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1:51pm Thu 31 Jan 13

czechbantam says...

Andy2010 wrote:
czechbantam wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
czechbantam wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.
What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)
Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.
You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.
Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards. Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size. #clueless
#idiot have a look at the accounts. £1.5m minus the costs of administering probably drives the profit down to around £900k. If you believe £900k is BCFC's major revenue income you are as misguided as some of the other idiots on here
For a club like Bradford £1.5m is not an insignificant amount. You'd think we were bringing in Premiership TV money the way your talking.
Go have a look at the accounts and come back and comment please BRADFORD CITY FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED VALLEY PARADE BRADFORD WEST YORKSHIRE BD8 7DY Company No. 05102915 Feel free to have a look at companies house and come back and comment please
What do you want me to tell you other than the accounts filed are based on small company status meaning they don't require audit so are below £6.5m in turnover which would mean that season ticket sale equate to at least a quarter of all income to the club. How many companies do you know who could do without a quarter of their income? Also the accounts filed at companies house do not include a P&L.
I'm not saying they could do without it I'm stressing that the turnover generated from the season tickets is only 25% of the income of the club...thats all Ive been saying all along...theres a bigger picture than the "them and us" attitude being banded around here
You thought I would be clueless when it came to companies house and accounts, thats the truth. It's not just 25% of turnover by the way, that would be if BCFC turned over just below the £6.5m ish mark they require to be fully audited. Without a profit and loss account I can't really comment on what % season ticket sales is of turnover but at the very minimum it is 25% but it's probably in truth closer to 35-40% if we estimate turnover at £4-5m. Did you even look at the accounts yourself before you asked me too? If you want a ticket queue up for general sale, your no special or more deserving then any other of the non season ticket holders.
Instead of you 2 having a 'who knows what' about running a business, why not arrange to meet each other, somewhere preferably very private and discuss away. As this conversation is not only very boring but also far removed from the original topic.
Is it? sorry were we discussing something not concerning tickets for the final...No we werent Personnally I find people who cant quote attendances from 20 years ago boring but each to their own eh
Andy Get a life, mate
Sorry please explain Why is it amongst a certain element of city supporters that unless you are praising the ground Parky walks on or hanging out in your season ticket gangs that you arent a fan and can never be one. Just goes to show I suppose.
What on earth are you going on about!!! Forget about getting a life, just sit in a darkened room, on your own, for a very long time
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]czechbantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]czechbantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.[/p][/quote]What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)[/p][/quote]Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.[/p][/quote]You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.[/p][/quote]Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards. Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size. #clueless[/p][/quote]#idiot have a look at the accounts. £1.5m minus the costs of administering probably drives the profit down to around £900k. If you believe £900k is BCFC's major revenue income you are as misguided as some of the other idiots on here[/p][/quote]For a club like Bradford £1.5m is not an insignificant amount. You'd think we were bringing in Premiership TV money the way your talking.[/p][/quote]Go have a look at the accounts and come back and comment please BRADFORD CITY FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED VALLEY PARADE BRADFORD WEST YORKSHIRE BD8 7DY Company No. 05102915 Feel free to have a look at companies house and come back and comment please[/p][/quote]What do you want me to tell you other than the accounts filed are based on small company status meaning they don't require audit so are below £6.5m in turnover which would mean that season ticket sale equate to at least a quarter of all income to the club. How many companies do you know who could do without a quarter of their income? Also the accounts filed at companies house do not include a P&L.[/p][/quote]I'm not saying they could do without it I'm stressing that the turnover generated from the season tickets is only 25% of the income of the club...thats all Ive been saying all along...theres a bigger picture than the "them and us" attitude being banded around here[/p][/quote]You thought I would be clueless when it came to companies house and accounts, thats the truth. It's not just 25% of turnover by the way, that would be if BCFC turned over just below the £6.5m ish mark they require to be fully audited. Without a profit and loss account I can't really comment on what % season ticket sales is of turnover but at the very minimum it is 25% but it's probably in truth closer to 35-40% if we estimate turnover at £4-5m. Did you even look at the accounts yourself before you asked me too? If you want a ticket queue up for general sale, your no special or more deserving then any other of the non season ticket holders.[/p][/quote]Instead of you 2 having a 'who knows what' about running a business, why not arrange to meet each other, somewhere preferably very private and discuss away. As this conversation is not only very boring but also far removed from the original topic.[/p][/quote]Is it? sorry were we discussing something not concerning tickets for the final...No we werent Personnally I find people who cant quote attendances from 20 years ago boring but each to their own eh[/p][/quote]Andy Get a life, mate[/p][/quote]Sorry please explain Why is it amongst a certain element of city supporters that unless you are praising the ground Parky walks on or hanging out in your season ticket gangs that you arent a fan and can never be one. Just goes to show I suppose.[/p][/quote]What on earth are you going on about!!! Forget about getting a life, just sit in a darkened room, on your own, for a very long time czechbantam
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2:04pm Thu 31 Jan 13

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.
What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)
Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.
You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.
Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards. Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size. #clueless
#idiot have a look at the accounts. £1.5m minus the costs of administering probably drives the profit down to around £900k. If you believe £900k is BCFC's major revenue income you are as misguided as some of the other idiots on here
For a club like Bradford £1.5m is not an insignificant amount. You'd think we were bringing in Premiership TV money the way your talking.
Go have a look at the accounts and come back and comment please BRADFORD CITY FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED VALLEY PARADE BRADFORD WEST YORKSHIRE BD8 7DY Company No. 05102915 Feel free to have a look at companies house and come back and comment please
What do you want me to tell you other than the accounts filed are based on small company status meaning they don't require audit so are below £6.5m in turnover which would mean that season ticket sale equate to at least a quarter of all income to the club. How many companies do you know who could do without a quarter of their income? Also the accounts filed at companies house do not include a P&L.
I'm not saying they could do without it I'm stressing that the turnover generated from the season tickets is only 25% of the income of the club...thats all Ive been saying all along...theres a bigger picture than the "them and us" attitude being banded around here
You thought I would be clueless when it came to companies house and accounts, thats the truth. It's not just 25% of turnover by the way, that would be if BCFC turned over just below the £6.5m ish mark they require to be fully audited. Without a profit and loss account I can't really comment on what % season ticket sales is of turnover but at the very minimum it is 25% but it's probably in truth closer to 35-40% if we estimate turnover at £4-5m. Did you even look at the accounts yourself before you asked me too? If you want a ticket queue up for general sale, your no special or more deserving then any other of the non season ticket holders.
Well of course I did although not through companies house but through a reference agency....Anyway even at the top ended 40% its still only 40% and my point stands that it isnt everything. I havent looked but I would hazard a guess that looking at more succesful clubs the this accounts for a lot less than 40%...woudl you agree? therefore to be more succesful they need to increase the difference between the season tickets sales and commercial revenue of the club? And I have my ticket by the way thanks for asking.
You said,

"What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club"

25 to 40% of total turnover, very very little. You've been left looking stupid so I'll leave it at that.
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.[/p][/quote]What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)[/p][/quote]Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.[/p][/quote]You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.[/p][/quote]Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards. Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size. #clueless[/p][/quote]#idiot have a look at the accounts. £1.5m minus the costs of administering probably drives the profit down to around £900k. If you believe £900k is BCFC's major revenue income you are as misguided as some of the other idiots on here[/p][/quote]For a club like Bradford £1.5m is not an insignificant amount. You'd think we were bringing in Premiership TV money the way your talking.[/p][/quote]Go have a look at the accounts and come back and comment please BRADFORD CITY FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED VALLEY PARADE BRADFORD WEST YORKSHIRE BD8 7DY Company No. 05102915 Feel free to have a look at companies house and come back and comment please[/p][/quote]What do you want me to tell you other than the accounts filed are based on small company status meaning they don't require audit so are below £6.5m in turnover which would mean that season ticket sale equate to at least a quarter of all income to the club. How many companies do you know who could do without a quarter of their income? Also the accounts filed at companies house do not include a P&L.[/p][/quote]I'm not saying they could do without it I'm stressing that the turnover generated from the season tickets is only 25% of the income of the club...thats all Ive been saying all along...theres a bigger picture than the "them and us" attitude being banded around here[/p][/quote]You thought I would be clueless when it came to companies house and accounts, thats the truth. It's not just 25% of turnover by the way, that would be if BCFC turned over just below the £6.5m ish mark they require to be fully audited. Without a profit and loss account I can't really comment on what % season ticket sales is of turnover but at the very minimum it is 25% but it's probably in truth closer to 35-40% if we estimate turnover at £4-5m. Did you even look at the accounts yourself before you asked me too? If you want a ticket queue up for general sale, your no special or more deserving then any other of the non season ticket holders.[/p][/quote]Well of course I did although not through companies house but through a reference agency....Anyway even at the top ended 40% its still only 40% and my point stands that it isnt everything. I havent looked but I would hazard a guess that looking at more succesful clubs the this accounts for a lot less than 40%...woudl you agree? therefore to be more succesful they need to increase the difference between the season tickets sales and commercial revenue of the club? And I have my ticket by the way thanks for asking.[/p][/quote]You said, "What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club" 25 to 40% of total turnover, very very little. You've been left looking stupid so I'll leave it at that. Thee Voice of Reason
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2:16pm Thu 31 Jan 13

Andy2010 says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.
What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)
Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.
You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.
Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards. Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size. #clueless
#idiot have a look at the accounts. £1.5m minus the costs of administering probably drives the profit down to around £900k. If you believe £900k is BCFC's major revenue income you are as misguided as some of the other idiots on here
For a club like Bradford £1.5m is not an insignificant amount. You'd think we were bringing in Premiership TV money the way your talking.
Go have a look at the accounts and come back and comment please BRADFORD CITY FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED VALLEY PARADE BRADFORD WEST YORKSHIRE BD8 7DY Company No. 05102915 Feel free to have a look at companies house and come back and comment please
What do you want me to tell you other than the accounts filed are based on small company status meaning they don't require audit so are below £6.5m in turnover which would mean that season ticket sale equate to at least a quarter of all income to the club. How many companies do you know who could do without a quarter of their income? Also the accounts filed at companies house do not include a P&L.
I'm not saying they could do without it I'm stressing that the turnover generated from the season tickets is only 25% of the income of the club...thats all Ive been saying all along...theres a bigger picture than the "them and us" attitude being banded around here
You thought I would be clueless when it came to companies house and accounts, thats the truth. It's not just 25% of turnover by the way, that would be if BCFC turned over just below the £6.5m ish mark they require to be fully audited. Without a profit and loss account I can't really comment on what % season ticket sales is of turnover but at the very minimum it is 25% but it's probably in truth closer to 35-40% if we estimate turnover at £4-5m. Did you even look at the accounts yourself before you asked me too? If you want a ticket queue up for general sale, your no special or more deserving then any other of the non season ticket holders.
Well of course I did although not through companies house but through a reference agency....Anyway even at the top ended 40% its still only 40% and my point stands that it isnt everything. I havent looked but I would hazard a guess that looking at more succesful clubs the this accounts for a lot less than 40%...woudl you agree? therefore to be more succesful they need to increase the difference between the season tickets sales and commercial revenue of the club? And I have my ticket by the way thanks for asking.
You said,

"What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club"

25 to 40% of total turnover, very very little. You've been left looking stupid so I'll leave it at that.
I hope for your own santiy you arent a business advisor of any sorts...and oh dear god please dont tell me your a management accountant
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.[/p][/quote]What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)[/p][/quote]Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.[/p][/quote]You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.[/p][/quote]Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards. Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size. #clueless[/p][/quote]#idiot have a look at the accounts. £1.5m minus the costs of administering probably drives the profit down to around £900k. If you believe £900k is BCFC's major revenue income you are as misguided as some of the other idiots on here[/p][/quote]For a club like Bradford £1.5m is not an insignificant amount. You'd think we were bringing in Premiership TV money the way your talking.[/p][/quote]Go have a look at the accounts and come back and comment please BRADFORD CITY FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED VALLEY PARADE BRADFORD WEST YORKSHIRE BD8 7DY Company No. 05102915 Feel free to have a look at companies house and come back and comment please[/p][/quote]What do you want me to tell you other than the accounts filed are based on small company status meaning they don't require audit so are below £6.5m in turnover which would mean that season ticket sale equate to at least a quarter of all income to the club. How many companies do you know who could do without a quarter of their income? Also the accounts filed at companies house do not include a P&L.[/p][/quote]I'm not saying they could do without it I'm stressing that the turnover generated from the season tickets is only 25% of the income of the club...thats all Ive been saying all along...theres a bigger picture than the "them and us" attitude being banded around here[/p][/quote]You thought I would be clueless when it came to companies house and accounts, thats the truth. It's not just 25% of turnover by the way, that would be if BCFC turned over just below the £6.5m ish mark they require to be fully audited. Without a profit and loss account I can't really comment on what % season ticket sales is of turnover but at the very minimum it is 25% but it's probably in truth closer to 35-40% if we estimate turnover at £4-5m. Did you even look at the accounts yourself before you asked me too? If you want a ticket queue up for general sale, your no special or more deserving then any other of the non season ticket holders.[/p][/quote]Well of course I did although not through companies house but through a reference agency....Anyway even at the top ended 40% its still only 40% and my point stands that it isnt everything. I havent looked but I would hazard a guess that looking at more succesful clubs the this accounts for a lot less than 40%...woudl you agree? therefore to be more succesful they need to increase the difference between the season tickets sales and commercial revenue of the club? And I have my ticket by the way thanks for asking.[/p][/quote]You said, "What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club" 25 to 40% of total turnover, very very little. You've been left looking stupid so I'll leave it at that.[/p][/quote]I hope for your own santiy you arent a business advisor of any sorts...and oh dear god please dont tell me your a management accountant Andy2010
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2:25pm Thu 31 Jan 13

bantam style says...

It sounds like its about time the t n a print the true story wat was sed
It sounds like its about time the t n a print the true story wat was sed bantam style
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2:29pm Thu 31 Jan 13

Thimblerigger says...

It's about time these two got a room!
It's about time these two got a room! Thimblerigger
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3:10pm Thu 31 Jan 13

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.
What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)
Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.
You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.
Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards. Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size. #clueless
#idiot have a look at the accounts. £1.5m minus the costs of administering probably drives the profit down to around £900k. If you believe £900k is BCFC's major revenue income you are as misguided as some of the other idiots on here
For a club like Bradford £1.5m is not an insignificant amount. You'd think we were bringing in Premiership TV money the way your talking.
Go have a look at the accounts and come back and comment please BRADFORD CITY FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED VALLEY PARADE BRADFORD WEST YORKSHIRE BD8 7DY Company No. 05102915 Feel free to have a look at companies house and come back and comment please
What do you want me to tell you other than the accounts filed are based on small company status meaning they don't require audit so are below £6.5m in turnover which would mean that season ticket sale equate to at least a quarter of all income to the club. How many companies do you know who could do without a quarter of their income? Also the accounts filed at companies house do not include a P&L.
I'm not saying they could do without it I'm stressing that the turnover generated from the season tickets is only 25% of the income of the club...thats all Ive been saying all along...theres a bigger picture than the "them and us" attitude being banded around here
You thought I would be clueless when it came to companies house and accounts, thats the truth. It's not just 25% of turnover by the way, that would be if BCFC turned over just below the £6.5m ish mark they require to be fully audited. Without a profit and loss account I can't really comment on what % season ticket sales is of turnover but at the very minimum it is 25% but it's probably in truth closer to 35-40% if we estimate turnover at £4-5m. Did you even look at the accounts yourself before you asked me too? If you want a ticket queue up for general sale, your no special or more deserving then any other of the non season ticket holders.
Well of course I did although not through companies house but through a reference agency....Anyway even at the top ended 40% its still only 40% and my point stands that it isnt everything. I havent looked but I would hazard a guess that looking at more succesful clubs the this accounts for a lot less than 40%...woudl you agree? therefore to be more succesful they need to increase the difference between the season tickets sales and commercial revenue of the club? And I have my ticket by the way thanks for asking.
You said, "What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club" 25 to 40% of total turnover, very very little. You've been left looking stupid so I'll leave it at that.
I hope for your own santiy you arent a business advisor of any sorts...and oh dear god please dont tell me your a management accountant
I think that could be fired more in your direction.

My advice to you is you can ignore this 40% of income as it's irrelvant, you'll be fine and the company will be too without it year after year after year.

#don't give up the day job.
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: You'll find the so call "Glory fans of Man U" will get nowhere near final tickets so I don't know what you are trying to suggest. Maybe your saying sod the season ticket holders, sell the 30k to anyone and the season ticket holders will still turn up next season anyhow. There will be well over 30k at Wembley and only 10k of them are season ticket holders so on the back of that lets hope some of the 20k part with their money next year and join us at Valley Parade. We only had 18k Bradford fans in our own stadium against Aston Villa in a cup semi final so why is their mass hysteria about not being enough tickets? I keep saying it but around 6k will be on general sale, if you can't be prepared to queue for those then don't be coming on here with sob stories.[/p][/quote]What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club. Im not talking about final tickets here and lets face it the number of corp tickets out there will probably be on par with the season ticket holders. The other day for example my boss was approached by a PR company offering up to 100 tickets for the final with a hospitality package of which the tickets are actually discounted to £20 each so he has asked if there is enough interest to buy in bulk and sell back to staff as works out at about £80 per "ticket" (which are good tickets) , rail travel, transfers and a hotel for the night. What Im trying to say here is its not about fans its about business. BCFC should be treating the final as a excellent marketing opportunity to both attract new "fans" and sponsers etc etc. No one is saying anything about season ticket holders getting priority but the number of 3 tickets imo is too high and should be two tickets each so that the 12-14k remaining of the allocation are sold to "glory hunters" who in turn may become season ticket holders and actually spend more in the build up (shirt sales etc)[/p][/quote]Your argument is totally flawed. The two people that season ticket holders might be taking with them have just as much chance of becoming season ticket holders next year as those who would buy tickets in general sale if the allocation was 2 per season ticket. This very little in revenue that the season ticket holders create for the club, handing over so much for the ticket, then food, drinks, programmes, shirts, etc is what has kept this club alive. Without them, there would be no cup run or cup final to attend so bravo to the people running the club for rewarding their support.[/p][/quote]You believe that season ticket holders are paying for club...just lol The amount made from corporate hospitality, rents, league income and investments dwarfs in comparison the few quid you hand over each season. Obviously a club can exist without support but you really need to have a look at the accounts if you believe BCFC is propped up by supporters.[/p][/quote]Your right, I'm sure the club could do without £200 x around 7000 adult season ticket holders and flexicards. Near to £1.5m can easily ignored per year for a club Bradford's size. #clueless[/p][/quote]#idiot have a look at the accounts. £1.5m minus the costs of administering probably drives the profit down to around £900k. If you believe £900k is BCFC's major revenue income you are as misguided as some of the other idiots on here[/p][/quote]For a club like Bradford £1.5m is not an insignificant amount. You'd think we were bringing in Premiership TV money the way your talking.[/p][/quote]Go have a look at the accounts and come back and comment please BRADFORD CITY FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED VALLEY PARADE BRADFORD WEST YORKSHIRE BD8 7DY Company No. 05102915 Feel free to have a look at companies house and come back and comment please[/p][/quote]What do you want me to tell you other than the accounts filed are based on small company status meaning they don't require audit so are below £6.5m in turnover which would mean that season ticket sale equate to at least a quarter of all income to the club. How many companies do you know who could do without a quarter of their income? Also the accounts filed at companies house do not include a P&L.[/p][/quote]I'm not saying they could do without it I'm stressing that the turnover generated from the season tickets is only 25% of the income of the club...thats all Ive been saying all along...theres a bigger picture than the "them and us" attitude being banded around here[/p][/quote]You thought I would be clueless when it came to companies house and accounts, thats the truth. It's not just 25% of turnover by the way, that would be if BCFC turned over just below the £6.5m ish mark they require to be fully audited. Without a profit and loss account I can't really comment on what % season ticket sales is of turnover but at the very minimum it is 25% but it's probably in truth closer to 35-40% if we estimate turnover at £4-5m. Did you even look at the accounts yourself before you asked me too? If you want a ticket queue up for general sale, your no special or more deserving then any other of the non season ticket holders.[/p][/quote]Well of course I did although not through companies house but through a reference agency....Anyway even at the top ended 40% its still only 40% and my point stands that it isnt everything. I havent looked but I would hazard a guess that looking at more succesful clubs the this accounts for a lot less than 40%...woudl you agree? therefore to be more succesful they need to increase the difference between the season tickets sales and commercial revenue of the club? And I have my ticket by the way thanks for asking.[/p][/quote]You said, "What Im suggesting is that season ticket holders actually contribute very very little in terms of revenue for the club" 25 to 40% of total turnover, very very little. You've been left looking stupid so I'll leave it at that.[/p][/quote]I hope for your own santiy you arent a business advisor of any sorts...and oh dear god please dont tell me your a management accountant[/p][/quote]I think that could be fired more in your direction. My advice to you is you can ignore this 40% of income as it's irrelvant, you'll be fine and the company will be too without it year after year after year. #don't give up the day job. Thee Voice of Reason
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3:33pm Thu 31 Jan 13

joeybcfc says...

czechbantam wrote:
joeybcfc wrote:
PaddyBantam wrote: Correct this woman is obviously deluded. What has stood out for me since City made it to the final is the incredible attitudes of the average City fan or is it the average T&A reader, all i have been able to take from it is the people are all about me, its me me me, what about me, i deserve it, he does not. What should be a time of enjoyment has only served to bring out the selfish disgusting nature of certain City 'fans', to be honest reading some of these comments not just on this thread but on others too have made me feel sick and angry, i'm just hoping that if ever there was a crisis that involved a life and death situation, that i am not in the company of certain city fans or T&A readers with their i'm alright jack and everyone for themselves attitude or the me myself and I. I agree the season/flexi holders should get priority, but don't believe they should get three tickets, why should they? should it not be one ticket or maybe two, but why three? For those who don't have a ticket as some have said there will be no doubt be around 4,5 or 6k available for general sale on a first come first served basis, once the me myself and I brigade have their tickets of course. From being proud about the achievement of City i'm now slightly embarrassed about my fellow Bradfordians attitudes towards ticket allocations and who does or doesn't deserve a ticket
Couldn't agree more paddy bantam,the people on here sound like a bunch of five year olds.why don't they ask wembley to separate all the non season ticket holders who have got a ticket so we know who the scum are.
What an absolute 'lump' you, 5 year olds from your inane comments, you must be very close to that age.
No but my grandchildren are,if you read all the comments on here you will find that lots of people agree that there is a lot of childish banter on here.
As for been called a lump that's your opinion but I won't call you names back otherwise I would be just contradicting myself.
[quote][p][bold]czechbantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joeybcfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PaddyBantam[/bold] wrote: Correct this woman is obviously deluded. What has stood out for me since City made it to the final is the incredible attitudes of the average City fan or is it the average T&A reader, all i have been able to take from it is the people are all about me, its me me me, what about me, i deserve it, he does not. What should be a time of enjoyment has only served to bring out the selfish disgusting nature of certain City 'fans', to be honest reading some of these comments not just on this thread but on others too have made me feel sick and angry, i'm just hoping that if ever there was a crisis that involved a life and death situation, that i am not in the company of certain city fans or T&A readers with their i'm alright jack and everyone for themselves attitude or the me myself and I. I agree the season/flexi holders should get priority, but don't believe they should get three tickets, why should they? should it not be one ticket or maybe two, but why three? For those who don't have a ticket as some have said there will be no doubt be around 4,5 or 6k available for general sale on a first come first served basis, once the me myself and I brigade have their tickets of course. From being proud about the achievement of City i'm now slightly embarrassed about my fellow Bradfordians attitudes towards ticket allocations and who does or doesn't deserve a ticket[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more paddy bantam,the people on here sound like a bunch of five year olds.why don't they ask wembley to separate all the non season ticket holders who have got a ticket so we know who the scum are.[/p][/quote]What an absolute 'lump' you, 5 year olds from your inane comments, you must be very close to that age.[/p][/quote]No but my grandchildren are,if you read all the comments on here you will find that lots of people agree that there is a lot of childish banter on here. As for been called a lump that's your opinion but I won't call you names back otherwise I would be just contradicting myself. joeybcfc
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3:43pm Thu 31 Jan 13

czechbantam says...

joeybcfc wrote:
czechbantam wrote:
joeybcfc wrote:
PaddyBantam wrote: Correct this woman is obviously deluded. What has stood out for me since City made it to the final is the incredible attitudes of the average City fan or is it the average T&A reader, all i have been able to take from it is the people are all about me, its me me me, what about me, i deserve it, he does not. What should be a time of enjoyment has only served to bring out the selfish disgusting nature of certain City 'fans', to be honest reading some of these comments not just on this thread but on others too have made me feel sick and angry, i'm just hoping that if ever there was a crisis that involved a life and death situation, that i am not in the company of certain city fans or T&A readers with their i'm alright jack and everyone for themselves attitude or the me myself and I. I agree the season/flexi holders should get priority, but don't believe they should get three tickets, why should they? should it not be one ticket or maybe two, but why three? For those who don't have a ticket as some have said there will be no doubt be around 4,5 or 6k available for general sale on a first come first served basis, once the me myself and I brigade have their tickets of course. From being proud about the achievement of City i'm now slightly embarrassed about my fellow Bradfordians attitudes towards ticket allocations and who does or doesn't deserve a ticket
Couldn't agree more paddy bantam,the people on here sound like a bunch of five year olds.why don't they ask wembley to separate all the non season ticket holders who have got a ticket so we know who the scum are.
What an absolute 'lump' you, 5 year olds from your inane comments, you must be very close to that age.
No but my grandchildren are,if you read all the comments on here you will find that lots of people agree that there is a lot of childish banter on here. As for been called a lump that's your opinion but I won't call you names back otherwise I would be just contradicting myself.
Sorry my friend I misread your comments and I must take back calling you names, I also have grand children and have a more intelligible conversation with them than some of the dross written on here. Take care
[quote][p][bold]joeybcfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]czechbantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joeybcfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PaddyBantam[/bold] wrote: Correct this woman is obviously deluded. What has stood out for me since City made it to the final is the incredible attitudes of the average City fan or is it the average T&A reader, all i have been able to take from it is the people are all about me, its me me me, what about me, i deserve it, he does not. What should be a time of enjoyment has only served to bring out the selfish disgusting nature of certain City 'fans', to be honest reading some of these comments not just on this thread but on others too have made me feel sick and angry, i'm just hoping that if ever there was a crisis that involved a life and death situation, that i am not in the company of certain city fans or T&A readers with their i'm alright jack and everyone for themselves attitude or the me myself and I. I agree the season/flexi holders should get priority, but don't believe they should get three tickets, why should they? should it not be one ticket or maybe two, but why three? For those who don't have a ticket as some have said there will be no doubt be around 4,5 or 6k available for general sale on a first come first served basis, once the me myself and I brigade have their tickets of course. From being proud about the achievement of City i'm now slightly embarrassed about my fellow Bradfordians attitudes towards ticket allocations and who does or doesn't deserve a ticket[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more paddy bantam,the people on here sound like a bunch of five year olds.why don't they ask wembley to separate all the non season ticket holders who have got a ticket so we know who the scum are.[/p][/quote]What an absolute 'lump' you, 5 year olds from your inane comments, you must be very close to that age.[/p][/quote]No but my grandchildren are,if you read all the comments on here you will find that lots of people agree that there is a lot of childish banter on here. As for been called a lump that's your opinion but I won't call you names back otherwise I would be just contradicting myself.[/p][/quote]Sorry my friend I misread your comments and I must take back calling you names, I also have grand children and have a more intelligible conversation with them than some of the dross written on here. Take care czechbantam
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3:52pm Thu 31 Jan 13

Andy2010 says...

joeybcfc wrote:
czechbantam wrote:
joeybcfc wrote:
PaddyBantam wrote: Correct this woman is obviously deluded. What has stood out for me since City made it to the final is the incredible attitudes of the average City fan or is it the average T&A reader, all i have been able to take from it is the people are all about me, its me me me, what about me, i deserve it, he does not. What should be a time of enjoyment has only served to bring out the selfish disgusting nature of certain City 'fans', to be honest reading some of these comments not just on this thread but on others too have made me feel sick and angry, i'm just hoping that if ever there was a crisis that involved a life and death situation, that i am not in the company of certain city fans or T&A readers with their i'm alright jack and everyone for themselves attitude or the me myself and I. I agree the season/flexi holders should get priority, but don't believe they should get three tickets, why should they? should it not be one ticket or maybe two, but why three? For those who don't have a ticket as some have said there will be no doubt be around 4,5 or 6k available for general sale on a first come first served basis, once the me myself and I brigade have their tickets of course. From being proud about the achievement of City i'm now slightly embarrassed about my fellow Bradfordians attitudes towards ticket allocations and who does or doesn't deserve a ticket
Couldn't agree more paddy bantam,the people on here sound like a bunch of five year olds.why don't they ask wembley to separate all the non season ticket holders who have got a ticket so we know who the scum are.
What an absolute 'lump' you, 5 year olds from your inane comments, you must be very close to that age.
No but my grandchildren are,if you read all the comments on here you will find that lots of people agree that there is a lot of childish banter on here.
As for been called a lump that's your opinion but I won't call you names back otherwise I would be just contradicting myself.
For gods sake don't crititise a season ticket holder...without them being all godly like the club wouldn't exist

And they all know how to run the club better than the directors and manage the team better than Parky
[quote][p][bold]joeybcfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]czechbantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joeybcfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PaddyBantam[/bold] wrote: Correct this woman is obviously deluded. What has stood out for me since City made it to the final is the incredible attitudes of the average City fan or is it the average T&A reader, all i have been able to take from it is the people are all about me, its me me me, what about me, i deserve it, he does not. What should be a time of enjoyment has only served to bring out the selfish disgusting nature of certain City 'fans', to be honest reading some of these comments not just on this thread but on others too have made me feel sick and angry, i'm just hoping that if ever there was a crisis that involved a life and death situation, that i am not in the company of certain city fans or T&A readers with their i'm alright jack and everyone for themselves attitude or the me myself and I. I agree the season/flexi holders should get priority, but don't believe they should get three tickets, why should they? should it not be one ticket or maybe two, but why three? For those who don't have a ticket as some have said there will be no doubt be around 4,5 or 6k available for general sale on a first come first served basis, once the me myself and I brigade have their tickets of course. From being proud about the achievement of City i'm now slightly embarrassed about my fellow Bradfordians attitudes towards ticket allocations and who does or doesn't deserve a ticket[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more paddy bantam,the people on here sound like a bunch of five year olds.why don't they ask wembley to separate all the non season ticket holders who have got a ticket so we know who the scum are.[/p][/quote]What an absolute 'lump' you, 5 year olds from your inane comments, you must be very close to that age.[/p][/quote]No but my grandchildren are,if you read all the comments on here you will find that lots of people agree that there is a lot of childish banter on here. As for been called a lump that's your opinion but I won't call you names back otherwise I would be just contradicting myself.[/p][/quote]For gods sake don't crititise a season ticket holder...without them being all godly like the club wouldn't exist And they all know how to run the club better than the directors and manage the team better than Parky Andy2010
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4:01pm Thu 31 Jan 13

czechbantam says...

Why on earth would you think I was a season ticket holder........ Check my user name 'Czechbantam' Czech is short for the Czech Republic formerly Czechoslovakia, which is where I live and work. A bit difficult to be a season ticket holder from there, although I am thinking about it for next season to give some of my hard earned to the city coffers. Again, I ask you to find a very isolated darkened room.
Why on earth would you think I was a season ticket holder........ Check my user name 'Czechbantam' Czech is short for the Czech Republic formerly Czechoslovakia, which is where I live and work. A bit difficult to be a season ticket holder from there, although I am thinking about it for next season to give some of my hard earned to the city coffers. Again, I ask you to find a very isolated darkened room. czechbantam
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4:06pm Thu 31 Jan 13

Danstarr69 says...

No sympathy for people like this. I personally hope they don't get tickets.

Anyone moaning about not having a Season Ticket or Flexicard because of distance, price or working schedule:

.....You should've bought a FLEXICARD! It's your own fault if you miss out now.

Here are a few points of why you should've bought a FLEXICARD (which has the same advantages as a season ticket)

1) They cost £50 originally but went down to £25. That means if you went to between 3 & 5 games a season it wouldn't have made a difference to pay-on-the-gate.

2) Even if you work weekends, there are always at least 5 mid week league games a year.

3) UK residents get a minimum of 5.6 weeks holiday a year. You could have used some of them for city games.

4) If you couldn't afford to buy a season ticket but go to games, then why didn't you buy a FLEXICARD?

From 2002-2010 I worked Saturdays but got to between 10 & 20 games a season. Its no excuse blaming the club because you didn't bother buying a FLEXICARD.

We all know the real reasons they stopped going. It's either because they lost faith, or they'd rather spend the money in the pub.
No sympathy for people like this. I personally hope they don't get tickets. Anyone moaning about not having a Season Ticket or Flexicard because of distance, price or working schedule: .....You should've bought a FLEXICARD! It's your own fault if you miss out now. Here are a few points of why you should've bought a FLEXICARD (which has the same advantages as a season ticket) 1) They cost £50 originally but went down to £25. That means if you went to between 3 & 5 games a season it wouldn't have made a difference to pay-on-the-gate. 2) Even if you work weekends, there are always at least 5 mid week league games a year. 3) UK residents get a minimum of 5.6 weeks holiday a year. You could have used some of them for city games. 4) If you couldn't afford to buy a season ticket but go to games, then why didn't you buy a FLEXICARD? From 2002-2010 I worked Saturdays but got to between 10 & 20 games a season. Its no excuse blaming the club because you didn't bother buying a FLEXICARD. We all know the real reasons they stopped going. It's either because they lost faith, or they'd rather spend the money in the pub. Danstarr69
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4:06pm Thu 31 Jan 13

Danstarr69 says...

No sympathy for people like this. I personally hope they don't get tickets.

Anyone moaning about not having a Season Ticket or Flexicard because of distance, price or working schedule:

.....You should've bought a FLEXICARD! It's your own fault if you miss out now.

Here are a few points of why you should've bought a FLEXICARD (which has the same advantages as a season ticket)

1) They cost £50 originally but went down to £25. That means if you went to between 3 & 5 games a season it wouldn't have made a difference to pay-on-the-gate.

2) Even if you work weekends, there are always at least 5 mid week league games a year.

3) UK residents get a minimum of 5.6 weeks holiday a year. You could have used some of them for city games.

4) If you couldn't afford to buy a season ticket but go to games, then why didn't you buy a FLEXICARD?

From 2002-2010 I worked Saturdays but got to between 10 & 20 games a season. Its no excuse blaming the club because you didn't bother buying a FLEXICARD.

We all know the real reasons they stopped going. It's either because they lost faith, or they'd rather spend the money in the pub.
No sympathy for people like this. I personally hope they don't get tickets. Anyone moaning about not having a Season Ticket or Flexicard because of distance, price or working schedule: .....You should've bought a FLEXICARD! It's your own fault if you miss out now. Here are a few points of why you should've bought a FLEXICARD (which has the same advantages as a season ticket) 1) They cost £50 originally but went down to £25. That means if you went to between 3 & 5 games a season it wouldn't have made a difference to pay-on-the-gate. 2) Even if you work weekends, there are always at least 5 mid week league games a year. 3) UK residents get a minimum of 5.6 weeks holiday a year. You could have used some of them for city games. 4) If you couldn't afford to buy a season ticket but go to games, then why didn't you buy a FLEXICARD? From 2002-2010 I worked Saturdays but got to between 10 & 20 games a season. Its no excuse blaming the club because you didn't bother buying a FLEXICARD. We all know the real reasons they stopped going. It's either because they lost faith, or they'd rather spend the money in the pub. Danstarr69
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4:45pm Thu 31 Jan 13

fotoman says...

Changing the subject - sorry.
Does anyone know whether city have used any of their new-found wealth to purchase players for the push for promotion out of the fourth tier of British football?
That is probably more important than tickets for Wembley
Changing the subject - sorry. Does anyone know whether city have used any of their new-found wealth to purchase players for the push for promotion out of the fourth tier of British football? That is probably more important than tickets for Wembley fotoman
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5:05pm Thu 31 Jan 13

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

Up to present no fotoman although I expect one deal to be finalised before the end of the window, listen for Jim White announcing it.
Up to present no fotoman although I expect one deal to be finalised before the end of the window, listen for Jim White announcing it. Prisoner Cell Block A
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5:27pm Thu 31 Jan 13

Danstarr69 says...

Andy2010 wrote:
joeybcfc wrote:
czechbantam wrote:
joeybcfc wrote:
PaddyBantam wrote: Correct this woman is obviously deluded. What has stood out for me since City made it to the final is the incredible attitudes of the average City fan or is it the average T&A reader, all i have been able to take from it is the people are all about me, its me me me, what about me, i deserve it, he does not. What should be a time of enjoyment has only served to bring out the selfish disgusting nature of certain City 'fans', to be honest reading some of these comments not just on this thread but on others too have made me feel sick and angry, i'm just hoping that if ever there was a crisis that involved a life and death situation, that i am not in the company of certain city fans or T&A readers with their i'm alright jack and everyone for themselves attitude or the me myself and I. I agree the season/flexi holders should get priority, but don't believe they should get three tickets, why should they? should it not be one ticket or maybe two, but why three? For those who don't have a ticket as some have said there will be no doubt be around 4,5 or 6k available for general sale on a first come first served basis, once the me myself and I brigade have their tickets of course. From being proud about the achievement of City i'm now slightly embarrassed about my fellow Bradfordians attitudes towards ticket allocations and who does or doesn't deserve a ticket
Couldn't agree more paddy bantam,the people on here sound like a bunch of five year olds.why don't they ask wembley to separate all the non season ticket holders who have got a ticket so we know who the scum are.
What an absolute 'lump' you, 5 year olds from your inane comments, you must be very close to that age.
No but my grandchildren are,if you read all the comments on here you will find that lots of people agree that there is a lot of childish banter on here. As for been called a lump that's your opinion but I won't call you names back otherwise I would be just contradicting myself.
For gods sake don't crititise a season ticket holder...without them being all godly like the club wouldn't exist And they all know how to run the club better than the directors and manage the team better than Parky
Andy you are retarded!

So you think without the £2,000,000 playing budget the club gets from the paying season ticket holders money, that the club could survive?

Is that why we were nearly liquidated a couple of seasons ago, and needed donations from fans?

The cheap season tickets were introduced to stop that happening again, along with the sales of the club superstore.

PS. That company you are talking about is a separate BCAFC company.
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joeybcfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]czechbantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joeybcfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PaddyBantam[/bold] wrote: Correct this woman is obviously deluded. What has stood out for me since City made it to the final is the incredible attitudes of the average City fan or is it the average T&A reader, all i have been able to take from it is the people are all about me, its me me me, what about me, i deserve it, he does not. What should be a time of enjoyment has only served to bring out the selfish disgusting nature of certain City 'fans', to be honest reading some of these comments not just on this thread but on others too have made me feel sick and angry, i'm just hoping that if ever there was a crisis that involved a life and death situation, that i am not in the company of certain city fans or T&A readers with their i'm alright jack and everyone for themselves attitude or the me myself and I. I agree the season/flexi holders should get priority, but don't believe they should get three tickets, why should they? should it not be one ticket or maybe two, but why three? For those who don't have a ticket as some have said there will be no doubt be around 4,5 or 6k available for general sale on a first come first served basis, once the me myself and I brigade have their tickets of course. From being proud about the achievement of City i'm now slightly embarrassed about my fellow Bradfordians attitudes towards ticket allocations and who does or doesn't deserve a ticket[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more paddy bantam,the people on here sound like a bunch of five year olds.why don't they ask wembley to separate all the non season ticket holders who have got a ticket so we know who the scum are.[/p][/quote]What an absolute 'lump' you, 5 year olds from your inane comments, you must be very close to that age.[/p][/quote]No but my grandchildren are,if you read all the comments on here you will find that lots of people agree that there is a lot of childish banter on here. As for been called a lump that's your opinion but I won't call you names back otherwise I would be just contradicting myself.[/p][/quote]For gods sake don't crititise a season ticket holder...without them being all godly like the club wouldn't exist And they all know how to run the club better than the directors and manage the team better than Parky[/p][/quote]Andy you are retarded! So you think without the £2,000,000 playing budget the club gets from the paying season ticket holders money, that the club could survive? Is that why we were nearly liquidated a couple of seasons ago, and needed donations from fans? The cheap season tickets were introduced to stop that happening again, along with the sales of the club superstore. PS. That company you are talking about is a separate BCAFC company. Danstarr69
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5:27pm Thu 31 Jan 13

Danstarr69 says...

Andy2010 wrote:
joeybcfc wrote:
czechbantam wrote:
joeybcfc wrote:
PaddyBantam wrote: Correct this woman is obviously deluded. What has stood out for me since City made it to the final is the incredible attitudes of the average City fan or is it the average T&A reader, all i have been able to take from it is the people are all about me, its me me me, what about me, i deserve it, he does not. What should be a time of enjoyment has only served to bring out the selfish disgusting nature of certain City 'fans', to be honest reading some of these comments not just on this thread but on others too have made me feel sick and angry, i'm just hoping that if ever there was a crisis that involved a life and death situation, that i am not in the company of certain city fans or T&A readers with their i'm alright jack and everyone for themselves attitude or the me myself and I. I agree the season/flexi holders should get priority, but don't believe they should get three tickets, why should they? should it not be one ticket or maybe two, but why three? For those who don't have a ticket as some have said there will be no doubt be around 4,5 or 6k available for general sale on a first come first served basis, once the me myself and I brigade have their tickets of course. From being proud about the achievement of City i'm now slightly embarrassed about my fellow Bradfordians attitudes towards ticket allocations and who does or doesn't deserve a ticket
Couldn't agree more paddy bantam,the people on here sound like a bunch of five year olds.why don't they ask wembley to separate all the non season ticket holders who have got a ticket so we know who the scum are.
What an absolute 'lump' you, 5 year olds from your inane comments, you must be very close to that age.
No but my grandchildren are,if you read all the comments on here you will find that lots of people agree that there is a lot of childish banter on here. As for been called a lump that's your opinion but I won't call you names back otherwise I would be just contradicting myself.
For gods sake don't crititise a season ticket holder...without them being all godly like the club wouldn't exist And they all know how to run the club better than the directors and manage the team better than Parky
Andy you are retarded!

So you think without the £2,000,000 playing budget the club gets from the paying season ticket holders money, that the club could survive?

Is that why we were nearly liquidated a couple of seasons ago, and needed donations from fans?

The cheap season tickets were introduced to stop that happening again, along with the sales of the club superstore.

PS. That company you are talking about is a separate BCAFC company.
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joeybcfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]czechbantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joeybcfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PaddyBantam[/bold] wrote: Correct this woman is obviously deluded. What has stood out for me since City made it to the final is the incredible attitudes of the average City fan or is it the average T&A reader, all i have been able to take from it is the people are all about me, its me me me, what about me, i deserve it, he does not. What should be a time of enjoyment has only served to bring out the selfish disgusting nature of certain City 'fans', to be honest reading some of these comments not just on this thread but on others too have made me feel sick and angry, i'm just hoping that if ever there was a crisis that involved a life and death situation, that i am not in the company of certain city fans or T&A readers with their i'm alright jack and everyone for themselves attitude or the me myself and I. I agree the season/flexi holders should get priority, but don't believe they should get three tickets, why should they? should it not be one ticket or maybe two, but why three? For those who don't have a ticket as some have said there will be no doubt be around 4,5 or 6k available for general sale on a first come first served basis, once the me myself and I brigade have their tickets of course. From being proud about the achievement of City i'm now slightly embarrassed about my fellow Bradfordians attitudes towards ticket allocations and who does or doesn't deserve a ticket[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more paddy bantam,the people on here sound like a bunch of five year olds.why don't they ask wembley to separate all the non season ticket holders who have got a ticket so we know who the scum are.[/p][/quote]What an absolute 'lump' you, 5 year olds from your inane comments, you must be very close to that age.[/p][/quote]No but my grandchildren are,if you read all the comments on here you will find that lots of people agree that there is a lot of childish banter on here. As for been called a lump that's your opinion but I won't call you names back otherwise I would be just contradicting myself.[/p][/quote]For gods sake don't crititise a season ticket holder...without them being all godly like the club wouldn't exist And they all know how to run the club better than the directors and manage the team better than Parky[/p][/quote]Andy you are retarded! So you think without the £2,000,000 playing budget the club gets from the paying season ticket holders money, that the club could survive? Is that why we were nearly liquidated a couple of seasons ago, and needed donations from fans? The cheap season tickets were introduced to stop that happening again, along with the sales of the club superstore. PS. That company you are talking about is a separate BCAFC company. Danstarr69
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5:53pm Thu 31 Jan 13

TirNaNog says...

"Black pudding's black today Mother!
That's very black that is, even the white bits are black...
I don't think I've seen a pudding as black as that...'ave you?..."

Dedicated to Andy and TVOR! ;-)
"Black pudding's black today Mother! That's very black that is, even the white bits are black... I don't think I've seen a pudding as black as that...'ave you?..." Dedicated to Andy and TVOR! ;-) TirNaNog
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8:24pm Thu 31 Jan 13

bemusedbylife says...

Since when did stupidity become news in the t&a!!!!
The comment 'have followed it from wigan' sums her up, we wont bother about the rounds that went before then ehhh????
They didnt have money to go to city but can afford to fork out money for a trip that may not happen that by the way was over half the cost of a season ticket anyway.
This story summarises the glory supporters that were inevitable really. They have done nothing but moan but I didnt see you interested when we were in the bottom half of league 2.
Anyone with any sense would have looked into it more and it has quite clear instructions on the website. I feel no sympathy at all for the woman and her 'regulars' who plead poverty to paying to watch city at valley parade.
It is only right that flexi card and season card holders get priority and not everybody will get their full aloocation anyway. So just a little question for all the new 'city fans'...Will we be seeing you at Valley Parade next year then???????
Since when did stupidity become news in the t&a!!!! The comment 'have followed it from wigan' sums her up, we wont bother about the rounds that went before then ehhh???? They didnt have money to go to city but can afford to fork out money for a trip that may not happen that by the way was over half the cost of a season ticket anyway. This story summarises the glory supporters that were inevitable really. They have done nothing but moan but I didnt see you interested when we were in the bottom half of league 2. Anyone with any sense would have looked into it more and it has quite clear instructions on the website. I feel no sympathy at all for the woman and her 'regulars' who plead poverty to paying to watch city at valley parade. It is only right that flexi card and season card holders get priority and not everybody will get their full aloocation anyway. So just a little question for all the new 'city fans'...Will we be seeing you at Valley Parade next year then??????? bemusedbylife
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9:03pm Thu 31 Jan 13

BigFigure says...

Leaving aside the "3 v 2 tickets for ST holders" debate....the lady in question has been incredibly careless with £7K of other people's money. A quick call to the club after the Villa game along the lines of "I'm thinking of organising a trip for 55 pub regulars....will there be an issue with getting tickets?" would have been a first step. And then to hotel and coach company "Can I make provisional bookings to be confirmed when we have tickets?" Was it really that difficult?
Leaving aside the "3 v 2 tickets for ST holders" debate....the lady in question has been incredibly careless with £7K of other people's money. A quick call to the club after the Villa game along the lines of "I'm thinking of organising a trip for 55 pub regulars....will there be an issue with getting tickets?" would have been a first step. And then to hotel and coach company "Can I make provisional bookings to be confirmed when we have tickets?" Was it really that difficult? BigFigure
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1:30am Fri 1 Feb 13

bantam idiot says...

come on t&a put a stop to this womans persecution & print what she actually said & did
come on t&a put a stop to this womans persecution & print what she actually said & did bantam idiot
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1:44am Fri 1 Feb 13

Danstarr69 says...

bemusedbylife wrote:
Since when did stupidity become news in the t&a!!!! The comment 'have followed it from wigan' sums her up, we wont bother about the rounds that went before then ehhh???? They didnt have money to go to city but can afford to fork out money for a trip that may not happen that by the way was over half the cost of a season ticket anyway. This story summarises the glory supporters that were inevitable really. They have done nothing but moan but I didnt see you interested when we were in the bottom half of league 2. Anyone with any sense would have looked into it more and it has quite clear instructions on the website. I feel no sympathy at all for the woman and her 'regulars' who plead poverty to paying to watch city at valley parade. It is only right that flexi card and season card holders get priority and not everybody will get their full aloocation anyway. So just a little question for all the new 'city fans'...Will we be seeing you at Valley Parade next year then???????
I will answer for them.

"Yes if we get a Premier League team in a cup. I only get time off work for big games. During the league games on Saturday's and Tuesday's they make me work, so it's pointless buying a Flexicard. It's also too expensive, even though they have the cheapest season tickets in the football league. I'd rather drink than go to a league game anyway. Another reason is I live 2 miles away from the ground which is too far for me to travel, even on my days off"
[quote][p][bold]bemusedbylife[/bold] wrote: Since when did stupidity become news in the t&a!!!! The comment 'have followed it from wigan' sums her up, we wont bother about the rounds that went before then ehhh???? They didnt have money to go to city but can afford to fork out money for a trip that may not happen that by the way was over half the cost of a season ticket anyway. This story summarises the glory supporters that were inevitable really. They have done nothing but moan but I didnt see you interested when we were in the bottom half of league 2. Anyone with any sense would have looked into it more and it has quite clear instructions on the website. I feel no sympathy at all for the woman and her 'regulars' who plead poverty to paying to watch city at valley parade. It is only right that flexi card and season card holders get priority and not everybody will get their full aloocation anyway. So just a little question for all the new 'city fans'...Will we be seeing you at Valley Parade next year then???????[/p][/quote]I will answer for them. "Yes if we get a Premier League team in a cup. I only get time off work for big games. During the league games on Saturday's and Tuesday's they make me work, so it's pointless buying a Flexicard. It's also too expensive, even though they have the cheapest season tickets in the football league. I'd rather drink than go to a league game anyway. Another reason is I live 2 miles away from the ground which is too far for me to travel, even on my days off" Danstarr69
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2:05am Fri 1 Feb 13

tyker2 says...

What a debate !.This woman embarked upon venture without proper research.

I is a FACT that when major games come along season ticket holders get first pick and the rest left to others to pick over. Did she honestly expect that she could get 50 tickets and all in one area for her regulars and maybe not so regulars. If she honestly held that belief than she is living in cloud cuckoo land .

Did she ask the club first about her plans?NO



She ought to look at herself in a mirror and ask did you really expect to get 50 tickets? She is the author of her own misfortune. Apologise to the punters , refund the money paid in in full and carry on pulling pints. END OF!
What a debate !.This woman embarked upon venture without proper research. I is a FACT that when major games come along season ticket holders get first pick and the rest left to others to pick over. Did she honestly expect that she could get 50 tickets and all in one area for her regulars and maybe not so regulars. If she honestly held that belief than she is living in cloud cuckoo land . Did she ask the club first about her plans?NO She ought to look at herself in a mirror and ask did you really expect to get 50 tickets? She is the author of her own misfortune. Apologise to the punters , refund the money paid in in full and carry on pulling pints. END OF! tyker2
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9:09am Fri 1 Feb 13

dannbradfc says...

bantam idiot wrote:
come on t&a put a stop to this womans persecution & print what she actually said & did
Its not persecution. She put herself in this position and went to the press.

What was her purpose?

They are such good fans they didn't know that season tickets get first chance of tickets, which is the only fair way to ensure that fans who go each week and are not watching the game in a pub on a big TV, get what they deserve.

Less than two pints. Less than a packet of cigs they could have guaranteed themselves a ticket. Even less than than that on the extremely accomodating flexi-card: either one pounds a week or even 50p.

Thus they could afford it.

If they work on Saturdays where have they been on Tuesdays? We had tickets left for the Villa home game, were they all there then?

They can now afford the 100 pounds for a ticket and travel plus their accomodation, food and drink but couldn't afford the flexi-card......sorr
y but my heart isn't bleeding......

Again i repeat what was this landlady's intention by going to the press?

She as shown herself to look a little silly.

If her story as been misrepresented then she needs to go back to the press, as she knows where it is, and demand an apology. Sadly i feel she as no argument at all.....
[quote][p][bold]bantam idiot[/bold] wrote: come on t&a put a stop to this womans persecution & print what she actually said & did[/p][/quote]Its not persecution. She put herself in this position and went to the press. What was her purpose? They are such good fans they didn't know that season tickets get first chance of tickets, which is the only fair way to ensure that fans who go each week and are not watching the game in a pub on a big TV, get what they deserve. Less than two pints. Less than a packet of cigs they could have guaranteed themselves a ticket. Even less than than that on the extremely accomodating flexi-card: either one pounds a week or even 50p. Thus they could afford it. If they work on Saturdays where have they been on Tuesdays? We had tickets left for the Villa home game, were they all there then? They can now afford the 100 pounds for a ticket and travel plus their accomodation, food and drink but couldn't afford the flexi-card......sorr y but my heart isn't bleeding...... Again i repeat what was this landlady's intention by going to the press? She as shown herself to look a little silly. If her story as been misrepresented then she needs to go back to the press, as she knows where it is, and demand an apology. Sadly i feel she as no argument at all..... dannbradfc
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10:03am Fri 1 Feb 13

Pollypocket1 says...

The majority of season ticket holders will go to VP no matter what the weather and sacrifice something else to pay for their ST and cost of away games so when the club that they worship gets through to a cup final and are given a chance to buy priority tickets for wembley. All those years of trudging to VP and a lot of the time coming away disappointed but still giving the club support week after week. I think the 3 ticket allocation is fair and just
The majority of season ticket holders will go to VP no matter what the weather and sacrifice something else to pay for their ST and cost of away games so when the club that they worship gets through to a cup final and are given a chance to buy priority tickets for wembley. All those years of trudging to VP and a lot of the time coming away disappointed but still giving the club support week after week. I think the 3 ticket allocation is fair and just Pollypocket1
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10:09am Fri 1 Feb 13

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

Danstarr69 wrote:
bemusedbylife wrote:
Since when did stupidity become news in the t&a!!!! The comment 'have followed it from wigan' sums her up, we wont bother about the rounds that went before then ehhh???? They didnt have money to go to city but can afford to fork out money for a trip that may not happen that by the way was over half the cost of a season ticket anyway. This story summarises the glory supporters that were inevitable really. They have done nothing but moan but I didnt see you interested when we were in the bottom half of league 2. Anyone with any sense would have looked into it more and it has quite clear instructions on the website. I feel no sympathy at all for the woman and her 'regulars' who plead poverty to paying to watch city at valley parade. It is only right that flexi card and season card holders get priority and not everybody will get their full aloocation anyway. So just a little question for all the new 'city fans'...Will we be seeing you at Valley Parade next year then???????
I will answer for them.

"Yes if we get a Premier League team in a cup. I only get time off work for big games. During the league games on Saturday's and Tuesday's they make me work, so it's pointless buying a Flexicard. It's also too expensive, even though they have the cheapest season tickets in the football league. I'd rather drink than go to a league game anyway. Another reason is I live 2 miles away from the ground which is too far for me to travel, even on my days off"
Perfect answer.

Sums up the attitude of these die hards that avoid City like the plague every week.

The crowds of under 2k in the 70s, any there then?

The dwindling numbers that facilitated our drop from top to bottom, any there then?

Don't try say you were or we wouldn't be where we are now, we would still be in the CCC with crowds of 30k + and vying for promotion to the top flight every season.

You let the club down but it still tried to help you to help it, you still didnt.
[quote][p][bold]Danstarr69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bemusedbylife[/bold] wrote: Since when did stupidity become news in the t&a!!!! The comment 'have followed it from wigan' sums her up, we wont bother about the rounds that went before then ehhh???? They didnt have money to go to city but can afford to fork out money for a trip that may not happen that by the way was over half the cost of a season ticket anyway. This story summarises the glory supporters that were inevitable really. They have done nothing but moan but I didnt see you interested when we were in the bottom half of league 2. Anyone with any sense would have looked into it more and it has quite clear instructions on the website. I feel no sympathy at all for the woman and her 'regulars' who plead poverty to paying to watch city at valley parade. It is only right that flexi card and season card holders get priority and not everybody will get their full aloocation anyway. So just a little question for all the new 'city fans'...Will we be seeing you at Valley Parade next year then???????[/p][/quote]I will answer for them. "Yes if we get a Premier League team in a cup. I only get time off work for big games. During the league games on Saturday's and Tuesday's they make me work, so it's pointless buying a Flexicard. It's also too expensive, even though they have the cheapest season tickets in the football league. I'd rather drink than go to a league game anyway. Another reason is I live 2 miles away from the ground which is too far for me to travel, even on my days off"[/p][/quote]Perfect answer. Sums up the attitude of these die hards that avoid City like the plague every week. The crowds of under 2k in the 70s, any there then? The dwindling numbers that facilitated our drop from top to bottom, any there then? Don't try say you were or we wouldn't be where we are now, we would still be in the CCC with crowds of 30k + and vying for promotion to the top flight every season. You let the club down but it still tried to help you to help it, you still didnt. Prisoner Cell Block A
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10:47am Fri 1 Feb 13

audal says...

All this bickering and online/site name calling who would have thought that OUR team will be playing in a major cup final. just glad we don't get there every year, my windows would go through the window.
All this bickering and online/site name calling who would have thought that OUR team will be playing in a major cup final. just glad we don't get there every year, my windows would go through the window. audal
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11:03am Fri 1 Feb 13

bradford_Northern says...

What a muppet - priceless!
As you can tell from the moniker I'm a rugby fan more than footie, but I did follow England in the World Cup semi in 1990 - can I have 100 free tickets for me and my mates?

Couple this 'non story' to the following 175 comments and it's been the most entertaining thing this week.

On a more sensible note, well done to City and all their fans, whether glory supporters or not. Hopefully they can play to their full potential - if they do then who knows. I won't be there, but I'll certainly be watching and cheering them on from my armchair.

As has been debated in one of the Bulls' threads - why all the animosity between Bulls and City? Let's just get behind any team in the City, including Park Avenue and wish them all the best. If we want to dislike a team there's always Leeds!
What a muppet - priceless! As you can tell from the moniker I'm a rugby fan more than footie, but I did follow England in the World Cup semi in 1990 - can I have 100 free tickets for me and my mates? Couple this 'non story' to the following 175 comments and it's been the most entertaining thing this week. On a more sensible note, well done to City and all their fans, whether glory supporters or not. Hopefully they can play to their full potential - if they do then who knows. I won't be there, but I'll certainly be watching and cheering them on from my armchair. As has been debated in one of the Bulls' threads - why all the animosity between Bulls and City? Let's just get behind any team in the City, including Park Avenue and wish them all the best. If we want to dislike a team there's always Leeds! bradford_Northern
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2:21pm Fri 1 Feb 13

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

It sure has fella, funny as owt IMO.

To answer the animosity between Bulls and City fans, the ones that are polarised at least, it is a case of City fans seeing the help and assistance the Bulls have had over the years compared to what they perceive the council's attitude towards City is.

During the last administration City were in they were told by the council in no uncertain terms they were a stand-alone business and as such supported themselves. This has not always been the case when the Bulls have had to go begging. Or at least that is the perception as I said.

Anyway, the SL starts again tonight and as a spectator sport it knocks blocks off my beloved football.

Enjoy your season.
It sure has fella, funny as owt IMO. To answer the animosity between Bulls and City fans, the ones that are polarised at least, it is a case of City fans seeing the help and assistance the Bulls have had over the years compared to what they perceive the council's attitude towards City is. During the last administration City were in they were told by the council in no uncertain terms they were a stand-alone business and as such supported themselves. This has not always been the case when the Bulls have had to go begging. Or at least that is the perception as I said. Anyway, the SL starts again tonight and as a spectator sport it knocks blocks off my beloved football. Enjoy your season. Prisoner Cell Block A
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5:01pm Fri 1 Feb 13

bobbyzelmut says...

Couple of comments:

Andy - £1.5 million in season ticket sales represents a very substantial part of the operating budget.

All the off field match day activities - corporate hospitality, snack bars, etc. - were sold to a third party many years ago and are designed to offset the cost of renting the stadium from Gordon Gibb.

The club is designed to break even off the field and the season ticket money provides the "war chest" for the club to plan their campaign. No season tickets sales = no forward planning.

Dave Baldwin has been very open about this point (there is a very interesting interview on the Width of a Post football blog).

This season league crowds have average around 10,000 including visiting fans so the "occasional" fan who comes and pays his £20 on the gate is very few and far between.

Regarding 3 tickets per ST/FC holder - Happily the number of holders means that there will still be a few thousand available for general sale.

Obviously there will be people who have a story as to why they can't get there every week, but why should the club limit the number of tickets to 2 and then put themselves in the position of either having to deal with massive queues (I was one of the lunatic fringe who queued up on the first day of Arsenal and Villa tickets for up to 5 hours each time) when they can trust their loyal supporters to decide who is and is not worth the extra tickets.

My son and I have 6 tickets we can allocate - 2 for us and 4 spares. Two have gone to my other son and my daughter because I want to share an amazing day with my family and my other two have gone to my best mate and his daughter. I am not saying he is more worthy than any other fan, but I know he loves the club and if I can help him have a great day then why shouldn't I?

My brother's mate is flying in from Australia. He has done what any sensible person would do - he rang his mates and asked them to save him one of their allocation.

Maybe the customers of the Second West should try and get more friends?

Oh, and you only have to watch Maggie's appearance on Calendar to see her burning sense of entitlement.

http://www.itv.com/n
ews/calendar/update/
2013-01-30/video-bra
dford-city-wembley-t
ickets/

Only could the "supporters" of our club turn the greatest day in over 100 years into an opportunity for moaners to air their views.
Couple of comments: Andy - £1.5 million in season ticket sales represents a very substantial part of the operating budget. All the off field match day activities - corporate hospitality, snack bars, etc. - were sold to a third party many years ago and are designed to offset the cost of renting the stadium from Gordon Gibb. The club is designed to break even off the field and the season ticket money provides the "war chest" for the club to plan their campaign. No season tickets sales = no forward planning. Dave Baldwin has been very open about this point (there is a very interesting interview on the Width of a Post football blog). This season league crowds have average around 10,000 including visiting fans so the "occasional" fan who comes and pays his £20 on the gate is very few and far between. Regarding 3 tickets per ST/FC holder - Happily the number of holders means that there will still be a few thousand available for general sale. Obviously there will be people who have a story as to why they can't get there every week, but why should the club limit the number of tickets to 2 and then put themselves in the position of either having to deal with massive queues (I was one of the lunatic fringe who queued up on the first day of Arsenal and Villa tickets for up to 5 hours each time) when they can trust their loyal supporters to decide who is and is not worth the extra tickets. My son and I have 6 tickets we can allocate - 2 for us and 4 spares. Two have gone to my other son and my daughter because I want to share an amazing day with my family and my other two have gone to my best mate and his daughter. I am not saying he is more worthy than any other fan, but I know he loves the club and if I can help him have a great day then why shouldn't I? My brother's mate is flying in from Australia. He has done what any sensible person would do - he rang his mates and asked them to save him one of their allocation. Maybe the customers of the Second West should try and get more friends? Oh, and you only have to watch Maggie's appearance on Calendar to see her burning sense of entitlement. http://www.itv.com/n ews/calendar/update/ 2013-01-30/video-bra dford-city-wembley-t ickets/ Only could the "supporters" of our club turn the greatest day in over 100 years into an opportunity for moaners to air their views. bobbyzelmut
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9:32pm Fri 1 Feb 13

flapper1 says...

Does she know its 4.00pmkick off.Most of her regulars are in bed drunk by lunchtime after she opens up early in morning for alcoholics.
Does she know its 4.00pmkick off.Most of her regulars are in bed drunk by lunchtime after she opens up early in morning for alcoholics. flapper1
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10:02pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Boing-Boing says...

I only bought 2 of my allocation, one for me one for my father, and I know others who have done the same, some only got one. So there should be plenty left for general sale.
I'll still laughing about this lady rolling up for 55 though!!
CTID
To make it a great day and show the world how much we love city DONT forget to wear AS MUCH claret and amber as possible at wembley....! It'll look great on tv too
I only bought 2 of my allocation, one for me one for my father, and I know others who have done the same, some only got one. So there should be plenty left for general sale. I'll still laughing about this lady rolling up for 55 though!! CTID To make it a great day and show the world how much we love city DONT forget to wear AS MUCH claret and amber as possible at wembley....! It'll look great on tv too Boing-Boing
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10:02pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Boing-Boing says...

I only bought 2 of my allocation, one for me one for my father, and I know others who have done the same, some only got one. So there should be plenty left for general sale.
I'll still laughing about this lady rolling up for 55 though!!
CTID
To make it a great day and show the world how much we love city DONT forget to wear AS MUCH claret and amber as possible at wembley....! It'll look great on tv too
I only bought 2 of my allocation, one for me one for my father, and I know others who have done the same, some only got one. So there should be plenty left for general sale. I'll still laughing about this lady rolling up for 55 though!! CTID To make it a great day and show the world how much we love city DONT forget to wear AS MUCH claret and amber as possible at wembley....! It'll look great on tv too Boing-Boing
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12:22am Sun 3 Feb 13

bantam idiot says...

can you lot not read it says general sale does that not mean after season ticket holders flexi card etc for your information
she DID NOT try to queue jump she simply wanted to know how to purchase tickets for the non season ticket holders by the way 3 tickets were for the coach drivers which then left 52 tickets needed 14 season ticket holders @ 3 each =42 she was actually 10 tickets short +3 for the drivers is this so *****wrong i dont think so
can you lot not read it says general sale does that not mean after season ticket holders flexi card etc for your information she DID NOT try to queue jump she simply wanted to know how to purchase tickets for the non season ticket holders by the way 3 tickets were for the coach drivers which then left 52 tickets needed 14 season ticket holders @ 3 each =42 she was actually 10 tickets short +3 for the drivers is this so *****wrong i dont think so bantam idiot
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12:34am Sun 3 Feb 13

bantam idiot says...

as for comments of opening early for alcoholics have you ever been in there most of her early morning customers are
pensioners keeping warm socialising +not getting p***** out of their heads or is she now to be slagged for that you people dont know this woman & what she does for the people in there when you do make your comments till then shut it
as for comments of opening early for alcoholics have you ever been in there most of her early morning customers are pensioners keeping warm socialising +not getting p***** out of their heads or is she now to be slagged for that you people dont know this woman & what she does for the people in there when you do make your comments till then shut it bantam idiot
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3:38am Sun 3 Feb 13

wembley bound says...

1 word for you Grammar
1 word for you Grammar wembley bound
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8:44am Sun 3 Feb 13

flapper1 says...

Pensioners keeping warm my backside.I know people who go in the dump so you shut it and get your facts right.
Pensioners keeping warm my backside.I know people who go in the dump so you shut it and get your facts right. flapper1
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5:19pm Sun 3 Feb 13

hardy43 says...

I'm sure if I turned up up at the pub and it was full of her regulars, I'd have to wait for service until her regulars were served!!!
I'm sure if I turned up up at the pub and it was full of her regulars, I'd have to wait for service until her regulars were served!!! hardy43
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7:47pm Sun 3 Feb 13

elzy123 says...

Hi,
Some further thoughts on this...My family are City fans and have supported them always (my husband was born and bred in Bradford). We now live in the south...we found it hard to get to home games (my husband has now died after a 10 year battle with cancer) as he was often too ill (not to mention the money) BUT we did go to every away game that came vaguely close:Dagenham, Watford, Oxford, Peterborough, Brighton, Notts County, Milton Keynes, Derby, Wimbledon, Luton, Stevenage, Northampton (lost count how many times) Arsenal (Brilliant!!) and Aston Villa (words failed us!) I totally understand how season ticket holders get first dibs but I would like a bit of understanding that not all true fans have the luxury of being home fans as well. I think it may have been fairer to let the season ticket holders have 2 tickets but hey we are where we are. Luckily my lads are recognised on the forum and someone who is a season ticket holder has made their dream come true and is selling us some tickets for wembley...exactly what i would expect from true Bradford fan (thank you!)but i have been really worried that they wouldn't get there and this is a once in a lifetime dream.

I wanted three have got 2 and am grateful 55 seems a bit of a reach!
Roll on 24th February!!!! CTID!!!
Hi, Some further thoughts on this...My family are City fans and have supported them always (my husband was born and bred in Bradford). We now live in the south...we found it hard to get to home games (my husband has now died after a 10 year battle with cancer) as he was often too ill (not to mention the money) BUT we did go to every away game that came vaguely close:Dagenham, Watford, Oxford, Peterborough, Brighton, Notts County, Milton Keynes, Derby, Wimbledon, Luton, Stevenage, Northampton (lost count how many times) Arsenal (Brilliant!!) and Aston Villa (words failed us!) I totally understand how season ticket holders get first dibs but I would like a bit of understanding that not all true fans have the luxury of being home fans as well. I think it may have been fairer to let the season ticket holders have 2 tickets but hey we are where we are. Luckily my lads are recognised on the forum and someone who is a season ticket holder has made their dream come true and is selling us some tickets for wembley...exactly what i would expect from true Bradford fan (thank you!)but i have been really worried that they wouldn't get there and this is a once in a lifetime dream. I wanted three have got 2 and am grateful 55 seems a bit of a reach! Roll on 24th February!!!! CTID!!! elzy123
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7:07am Mon 4 Feb 13

tyker2 says...

she might get her tickets but are these latter day fans out on a jolly prepared to pay premium prices (as the cheaper one have virtually gone) and is she prepared not to have booze on the coach:that may be too big an ask for a jolly boys pub outing!!
she might get her tickets but are these latter day fans out on a jolly prepared to pay premium prices (as the cheaper one have virtually gone) and is she prepared not to have booze on the coach:that may be too big an ask for a jolly boys pub outing!! tyker2
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8:09pm Tue 5 Feb 13

silverbantam says...

Even Hitler is upset at the South West not being able to get tickets for Wembley !!

http://bit.ly/VQK9BA
Even Hitler is upset at the South West not being able to get tickets for Wembley !! http://bit.ly/VQK9BA silverbantam
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4:47pm Wed 6 Feb 13

Huge pendulas says...

It's not south west u **** its second west get it right

http://m.youtube.com
/#/watch?v=qaeyfoeV_
34&desktop_uri=%2Fwa
tch%3Fv%3DqaeyfoeV_3
4
It's not south west u **** its second west get it right http://m.youtube.com /#/watch?v=qaeyfoeV_ 34&desktop_uri=%2Fwa tch%3Fv%3DqaeyfoeV_3 4 Huge pendulas
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7:46pm Wed 6 Feb 13

Danstarr69 says...

bantam idiot wrote:
can you lot not read it says general sale does that not mean after season ticket holders flexi card etc for your information
she DID NOT try to queue jump she simply wanted to know how to purchase tickets for the non season ticket holders by the way 3 tickets were for the coach drivers which then left 52 tickets needed 14 season ticket holders @ 3 each =42 she was actually 10 tickets short +3 for the drivers is this so *****wrong i dont think so
Funny how you never mentioned these 14 season tickets the 1st time you commented. I'm guessing that's because its bol*ocks. And I'm also guessing 'Bantam Style' is your alias seen as you commented at the same time describing the other 100+ commenters as 'clowns'

I'd stick to listening/watching us in the Second West if I were you, with your 53 mates and Hitler. (See http://YouTube/TheSe
condWest to get the joke)
[quote][p][bold]bantam idiot[/bold] wrote: can you lot not read it says general sale does that not mean after season ticket holders flexi card etc for your information she DID NOT try to queue jump she simply wanted to know how to purchase tickets for the non season ticket holders by the way 3 tickets were for the coach drivers which then left 52 tickets needed 14 season ticket holders @ 3 each =42 she was actually 10 tickets short +3 for the drivers is this so *****wrong i dont think so[/p][/quote]Funny how you never mentioned these 14 season tickets the 1st time you commented. I'm guessing that's because its bol*ocks. And I'm also guessing 'Bantam Style' is your alias seen as you commented at the same time describing the other 100+ commenters as 'clowns' I'd stick to listening/watching us in the Second West if I were you, with your 53 mates and Hitler. (See http://YouTube/TheSe condWest to get the joke) Danstarr69
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5:17pm Fri 8 Feb 13

BigFigure says...

Danstarr69 wrote:
bantam idiot wrote:
can you lot not read it says general sale does that not mean after season ticket holders flexi card etc for your information
she DID NOT try to queue jump she simply wanted to know how to purchase tickets for the non season ticket holders by the way 3 tickets were for the coach drivers which then left 52 tickets needed 14 season ticket holders @ 3 each =42 she was actually 10 tickets short +3 for the drivers is this so *****wrong i dont think so
Funny how you never mentioned these 14 season tickets the 1st time you commented. I'm guessing that's because its bol*ocks. And I'm also guessing 'Bantam Style' is your alias seen as you commented at the same time describing the other 100+ commenters as 'clowns'

I'd stick to listening/watching us in the Second West if I were you, with your 53 mates and Hitler. (See http://YouTube/TheSe

condWest to get the joke)
Err....where does it say she needs only 15 tickets? If so, why was she prepared to queue "for the 55 people who have handed over cash, but would now have to wait to see if there were any tickets left once season ticket holders and flexicard members had bought their quota"? (And why are 3 coach drivers needed? My footy team toured Holland with only 1 driver....)
[quote][p][bold]Danstarr69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantam idiot[/bold] wrote: can you lot not read it says general sale does that not mean after season ticket holders flexi card etc for your information she DID NOT try to queue jump she simply wanted to know how to purchase tickets for the non season ticket holders by the way 3 tickets were for the coach drivers which then left 52 tickets needed 14 season ticket holders @ 3 each =42 she was actually 10 tickets short +3 for the drivers is this so *****wrong i dont think so[/p][/quote]Funny how you never mentioned these 14 season tickets the 1st time you commented. I'm guessing that's because its bol*ocks. And I'm also guessing 'Bantam Style' is your alias seen as you commented at the same time describing the other 100+ commenters as 'clowns' I'd stick to listening/watching us in the Second West if I were you, with your 53 mates and Hitler. (See http://YouTube/TheSe condWest to get the joke)[/p][/quote]Err....where does it say she needs only 15 tickets? If so, why was she prepared to queue "for the 55 people who have handed over cash, but would now have to wait to see if there were any tickets left once season ticket holders and flexicard members had bought their quota"? (And why are 3 coach drivers needed? My footy team toured Holland with only 1 driver....) BigFigure
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