Ross Hannah leaves Bantams for Grimsby

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Ross Hannah has left City to sign for Grimsby Ross Hannah has left City to sign for Grimsby

Ross Hannah’s move to Grimsby has been confirmed today as the striker signed a two-and-half year deal for an undisclosed sum.

The striker scored nine goals for the Conference side in an impressive loan spell before returning to the Bantams before Christmas.

Grimsby Town director John Fenty explained on the Mariners' website: “We are delighted that the deal is done. It’s been a tedious deal to say the least. The deal was made more complex by the fact that he had a successful loan spell here.

“That and to some degree, coupled with our position in the league, Bradford were able to exploit a fee considerably higher than we had wished for.

“Agents, fan speculation and other clubs' interest made it nonetheless easier and we are pleased to have finally completed the deal today."

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4:58pm Thu 10 Jan 13

tyker2 says...

let's hope he helps get Grimsby promoted so we can get rid of a southern based club
let's hope he helps get Grimsby promoted so we can get rid of a southern based club tyker2

5:09pm Thu 10 Jan 13

mickyoi says...

Thank god for that. At least we don't have to listen to all his lovers banging on about how amazing he is and should be playing for us every week. Conference is his level. Good luck to the lad though, hope he does well for them. Just not good enough to get in our team.
Thank god for that. At least we don't have to listen to all his lovers banging on about how amazing he is and should be playing for us every week. Conference is his level. Good luck to the lad though, hope he does well for them. Just not good enough to get in our team. mickyoi

5:22pm Thu 10 Jan 13

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

^^^^^ Just this.

Best wishes to Ross and his future career.
^^^^^ Just this. Best wishes to Ross and his future career. Prisoner Cell Block A

5:22pm Thu 10 Jan 13

Beeceefcee says...

Surely that should put the rumours about Nakhi moving to either Wolves, Hudds or the dirties to bed? A couple of injuries and we would be left short upfront?
Surely that should put the rumours about Nakhi moving to either Wolves, Hudds or the dirties to bed? A couple of injuries and we would be left short upfront? Beeceefcee

5:23pm Thu 10 Jan 13

fatbloke says...

He was training today along with slobbery looking tramp by the name of Mido. What the hell happened to him?

Good luck Ross and good luck Mido trying to get in to shape. Then I wonder if a pro footballer lets himself get in that state does he deserve it?
He was training today along with slobbery looking tramp by the name of Mido. What the hell happened to him? Good luck Ross and good luck Mido trying to get in to shape. Then I wonder if a pro footballer lets himself get in that state does he deserve it? fatbloke

5:30pm Thu 10 Jan 13

Beeceefcee says...

Has he really piled it on to that extent?
Has he really piled it on to that extent? Beeceefcee

5:31pm Thu 10 Jan 13

Beeceefcee says...

Has he really piled it on to that extent?
Has he really piled it on to that extent? Beeceefcee

5:34pm Thu 10 Jan 13

fatbloke says...

I thought so. First time I have seen him live though so cant comment on what he use to be like.
We must be taking him serious though as he stayed late to do some xtra running with the fitness coach. I felt sorry for him he looked in serious pain trying to keep up :-)
I thought so. First time I have seen him live though so cant comment on what he use to be like. We must be taking him serious though as he stayed late to do some xtra running with the fitness coach. I felt sorry for him he looked in serious pain trying to keep up :-) fatbloke

5:35pm Thu 10 Jan 13

bantambelle says...

Best of luck Ross. Wish you every success at Grimsby and hope you play league football again soon.

It's a shame he never got a fair crack of the whip, as a Jackson signing he was on a hiding to nothing as soon as the manager changed, as were many others. He scores goals where ever he plays so Grimsby have got a great signing.

With more games i'm certain he would have been a leading scorer for the Bantams. Competition for places was just too tough and with Hanson, Wells, Connell and now Gray he would only ever be sub - he just wants to play football and i don't blame him for leaving.

He was a good professional for City, always happy to sign autographs for young fans etc. Good luck to the 'fox in the box' !
Best of luck Ross. Wish you every success at Grimsby and hope you play league football again soon. It's a shame he never got a fair crack of the whip, as a Jackson signing he was on a hiding to nothing as soon as the manager changed, as were many others. He scores goals where ever he plays so Grimsby have got a great signing. With more games i'm certain he would have been a leading scorer for the Bantams. Competition for places was just too tough and with Hanson, Wells, Connell and now Gray he would only ever be sub - he just wants to play football and i don't blame him for leaving. He was a good professional for City, always happy to sign autographs for young fans etc. Good luck to the 'fox in the box' ! bantambelle

6:27pm Thu 10 Jan 13

ALEXIMO.56. says...

Good luck to Rosco for the future. It's a great shame that he wasn't given a good chance.
Good luck to Rosco for the future. It's a great shame that he wasn't given a good chance. ALEXIMO.56.

6:47pm Thu 10 Jan 13

lawsonio123 says...

Good Luck Ross and Good Luck to Grimsby Some Good teams to beat but keep scoring lad hope you are promoted
Good Luck Ross and Good Luck to Grimsby Some Good teams to beat but keep scoring lad hope you are promoted lawsonio123

6:55pm Thu 10 Jan 13

nowt fresh says...

bantambelle wrote:
Best of luck Ross. Wish you every success at Grimsby and hope you play league football again soon. It's a shame he never got a fair crack of the whip, as a Jackson signing he was on a hiding to nothing as soon as the manager changed, as were many others. He scores goals where ever he plays so Grimsby have got a great signing. With more games i'm certain he would have been a leading scorer for the Bantams. Competition for places was just too tough and with Hanson, Wells, Connell and now Gray he would only ever be sub - he just wants to play football and i don't blame him for leaving. He was a good professional for City, always happy to sign autographs for young fans etc. Good luck to the 'fox in the box' !
Ditto
[quote][p][bold]bantambelle[/bold] wrote: Best of luck Ross. Wish you every success at Grimsby and hope you play league football again soon. It's a shame he never got a fair crack of the whip, as a Jackson signing he was on a hiding to nothing as soon as the manager changed, as were many others. He scores goals where ever he plays so Grimsby have got a great signing. With more games i'm certain he would have been a leading scorer for the Bantams. Competition for places was just too tough and with Hanson, Wells, Connell and now Gray he would only ever be sub - he just wants to play football and i don't blame him for leaving. He was a good professional for City, always happy to sign autographs for young fans etc. Good luck to the 'fox in the box' ![/p][/quote]Ditto nowt fresh

6:56pm Thu 10 Jan 13

Birky_Neil says...

mickyoi wrote:
Thank god for that. At least we don't have to listen to all his lovers banging on about how amazing he is and should be playing for us every week. Conference is his level. Good luck to the lad though, hope he does well for them. Just not good enough to get in our team.
And how the hell do u know he is not good enough when he has never been given a chance idiot.
[quote][p][bold]mickyoi[/bold] wrote: Thank god for that. At least we don't have to listen to all his lovers banging on about how amazing he is and should be playing for us every week. Conference is his level. Good luck to the lad though, hope he does well for them. Just not good enough to get in our team.[/p][/quote]And how the hell do u know he is not good enough when he has never been given a chance idiot. Birky_Neil

7:00pm Thu 10 Jan 13

bcfc1903 says...

Good luck Ross....with your calm and deadly touch in front of goal you'll carry on scoring for Grimsby....all the best fella!!!!

**

Regarding the snide comment from John Fenty regarding Bradford City Football Club....get off your high horse you clown...you've got a proven goalscorer at the level Grimsby play at for a snip..if you get promoted the fee will be insignificant...a bit like the class you exude....

**

We shout with pride...we'll never hide....Claret and Amber!!!!
Good luck Ross....with your calm and deadly touch in front of goal you'll carry on scoring for Grimsby....all the best fella!!!! ** Regarding the snide comment from John Fenty regarding Bradford City Football Club....get off your high horse you clown...you've got a proven goalscorer at the level Grimsby play at for a snip..if you get promoted the fee will be insignificant...a bit like the class you exude.... ** We shout with pride...we'll never hide....Claret and Amber!!!! bcfc1903

7:02pm Thu 10 Jan 13

moanmoanwhingewhinge says...

Birky_Neil wrote:
mickyoi wrote:
Thank god for that. At least we don't have to listen to all his lovers banging on about how amazing he is and should be playing for us every week. Conference is his level. Good luck to the lad though, hope he does well for them. Just not good enough to get in our team.
And how the hell do u know he is not good enough when he has never been given a chance idiot.
If we was good enough he'd have got that chance, stupid
[quote][p][bold]Birky_Neil[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickyoi[/bold] wrote: Thank god for that. At least we don't have to listen to all his lovers banging on about how amazing he is and should be playing for us every week. Conference is his level. Good luck to the lad though, hope he does well for them. Just not good enough to get in our team.[/p][/quote]And how the hell do u know he is not good enough when he has never been given a chance idiot.[/p][/quote]If we was good enough he'd have got that chance, stupid moanmoanwhingewhinge

7:08pm Thu 10 Jan 13

mickyoi says...

Birky_Neil wrote:
mickyoi wrote:
Thank god for that. At least we don't have to listen to all his lovers banging on about how amazing he is and should be playing for us every week. Conference is his level. Good luck to the lad though, hope he does well for them. Just not good enough to get in our team.
And how the hell do u know he is not good enough when he has never been given a chance idiot.
Ha ha I'm an idiot am I? Then parky must be too cos he sees him everyday in training and he thinks he's not good enough and so do the chairmen and coaches by the looks of it. The fact that he was sent to Halifax and then grimsby tells me he's not only not good enough for our team he's not good enough for this division hence nobody else coming in for him. PLEB!!
[quote][p][bold]Birky_Neil[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickyoi[/bold] wrote: Thank god for that. At least we don't have to listen to all his lovers banging on about how amazing he is and should be playing for us every week. Conference is his level. Good luck to the lad though, hope he does well for them. Just not good enough to get in our team.[/p][/quote]And how the hell do u know he is not good enough when he has never been given a chance idiot.[/p][/quote]Ha ha I'm an idiot am I? Then parky must be too cos he sees him everyday in training and he thinks he's not good enough and so do the chairmen and coaches by the looks of it. The fact that he was sent to Halifax and then grimsby tells me he's not only not good enough for our team he's not good enough for this division hence nobody else coming in for him. PLEB!! mickyoi

7:10pm Thu 10 Jan 13

mickyoi says...

moanmoanwhingewhinge wrote:
Birky_Neil wrote:
mickyoi wrote:
Thank god for that. At least we don't have to listen to all his lovers banging on about how amazing he is and should be playing for us every week. Conference is his level. Good luck to the lad though, hope he does well for them. Just not good enough to get in our team.
And how the hell do u know he is not good enough when he has never been given a chance idiot.
If we was good enough he'd have got that chance, stupid
Exactly mate.
[quote][p][bold]moanmoanwhingewhinge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Birky_Neil[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickyoi[/bold] wrote: Thank god for that. At least we don't have to listen to all his lovers banging on about how amazing he is and should be playing for us every week. Conference is his level. Good luck to the lad though, hope he does well for them. Just not good enough to get in our team.[/p][/quote]And how the hell do u know he is not good enough when he has never been given a chance idiot.[/p][/quote]If we was good enough he'd have got that chance, stupid[/p][/quote]Exactly mate. mickyoi

7:33pm Thu 10 Jan 13

beardedclam says...

I think we're gonna regret this one
I think we're gonna regret this one beardedclam

7:57pm Thu 10 Jan 13

balbrigganfc says...

As previously predicted Ros what'shis face has signed for Grimby.

Best of luck, you scored some great goals for Grimsby, no wonder they were eager to sign you. Let's hope you can help win them promotion with your prolific goal scoring.
As previously predicted Ros what'shis face has signed for Grimby. Best of luck, you scored some great goals for Grimsby, no wonder they were eager to sign you. Let's hope you can help win them promotion with your prolific goal scoring. balbrigganfc

7:57pm Thu 10 Jan 13

balbrigganfc says...

As previously predicted Ros what'shis face has signed for Grimby.

Best of luck, you scored some great goals for Grimsby, no wonder they were eager to sign you. Let's hope you can help win them promotion with your prolific goal scoring.
As previously predicted Ros what'shis face has signed for Grimby. Best of luck, you scored some great goals for Grimsby, no wonder they were eager to sign you. Let's hope you can help win them promotion with your prolific goal scoring. balbrigganfc

8:17pm Thu 10 Jan 13

KnightMcCall says...

Birky_Neil wrote:
mickyoi wrote:
Thank god for that. At least we don't have to listen to all his lovers banging on about how amazing he is and should be playing for us every week. Conference is his level. Good luck to the lad though, hope he does well for them. Just not good enough to get in our team.
And how the hell do u know he is not good enough when he has never been given a chance idiot.
He made 19 appearances for City. I saw most of them. He wasn't good enough. Time to move on.
[quote][p][bold]Birky_Neil[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickyoi[/bold] wrote: Thank god for that. At least we don't have to listen to all his lovers banging on about how amazing he is and should be playing for us every week. Conference is his level. Good luck to the lad though, hope he does well for them. Just not good enough to get in our team.[/p][/quote]And how the hell do u know he is not good enough when he has never been given a chance idiot.[/p][/quote]He made 19 appearances for City. I saw most of them. He wasn't good enough. Time to move on. KnightMcCall

8:34pm Thu 10 Jan 13

COLATS says...

Birky_Neil wrote:
mickyoi wrote:
Thank god for that. At least we don't have to listen to all his lovers banging on about how amazing he is and should be playing for us every week. Conference is his level. Good luck to the lad though, hope he does well for them. Just not good enough to get in our team.
And how the hell do u know he is not good enough when he has never been given a chance idiot.
Parky saw him every day not good enough get over it. We're,nt you the one banging on about colbeck??? Look where he ended up.
[quote][p][bold]Birky_Neil[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickyoi[/bold] wrote: Thank god for that. At least we don't have to listen to all his lovers banging on about how amazing he is and should be playing for us every week. Conference is his level. Good luck to the lad though, hope he does well for them. Just not good enough to get in our team.[/p][/quote]And how the hell do u know he is not good enough when he has never been given a chance idiot.[/p][/quote]Parky saw him every day not good enough get over it. We're,nt you the one banging on about colbeck??? Look where he ended up. COLATS

8:34pm Thu 10 Jan 13

COLATS says...

Birky_Neil wrote:
mickyoi wrote:
Thank god for that. At least we don't have to listen to all his lovers banging on about how amazing he is and should be playing for us every week. Conference is his level. Good luck to the lad though, hope he does well for them. Just not good enough to get in our team.
And how the hell do u know he is not good enough when he has never been given a chance idiot.
Parky saw him every day not good enough get over it. We're,nt you the one banging on about colbeck??? Look where he ended up.
[quote][p][bold]Birky_Neil[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickyoi[/bold] wrote: Thank god for that. At least we don't have to listen to all his lovers banging on about how amazing he is and should be playing for us every week. Conference is his level. Good luck to the lad though, hope he does well for them. Just not good enough to get in our team.[/p][/quote]And how the hell do u know he is not good enough when he has never been given a chance idiot.[/p][/quote]Parky saw him every day not good enough get over it. We're,nt you the one banging on about colbeck??? Look where he ended up. COLATS

8:36pm Thu 10 Jan 13

COLATS says...

beardedclam wrote:
I think we're gonna regret this one
No
[quote][p][bold]beardedclam[/bold] wrote: I think we're gonna regret this one[/p][/quote]No COLATS

9:00pm Thu 10 Jan 13

smirg kcab says...

Hi chaps
Paolo di canio has turned down a move for aiden flint joining you a towering defender who wins everything in the air not brilliant at passing and gets sent off a few times. Struggling to get in our team with ward and devera keeping many clean sheets.
Enjoyed watching your lot get the better out of villa after they knocked us out. Shame Connell never came on, how do you date him? Looks a great pen taker after all we have missed 3/3 this season.
Good luck hope you make wembley and I for one will be cheering you on
Swindon till I die
Onwards and upwards
Hi chaps Paolo di canio has turned down a move for aiden flint joining you a towering defender who wins everything in the air not brilliant at passing and gets sent off a few times. Struggling to get in our team with ward and devera keeping many clean sheets. Enjoyed watching your lot get the better out of villa after they knocked us out. Shame Connell never came on, how do you date him? Looks a great pen taker after all we have missed 3/3 this season. Good luck hope you make wembley and I for one will be cheering you on Swindon till I die Onwards and upwards smirg kcab

9:02pm Thu 10 Jan 13

smirg kcab says...

smirg kcab wrote:
Hi chaps
Paolo di canio has turned down a move for aiden flint joining you a towering defender who wins everything in the air not brilliant at passing and gets sent off a few times. Struggling to get in our team with ward and devera keeping many clean sheets.
Enjoyed watching your lot get the better out of villa after they knocked us out. Shame Connell never came on, how do you date him? Looks a great pen taker after all we have missed 3/3 this season.
Good luck hope you make wembley and I for one will be cheering you on
Swindon till I die
Onwards and upwards
Rate not date lol
[quote][p][bold]smirg kcab[/bold] wrote: Hi chaps Paolo di canio has turned down a move for aiden flint joining you a towering defender who wins everything in the air not brilliant at passing and gets sent off a few times. Struggling to get in our team with ward and devera keeping many clean sheets. Enjoyed watching your lot get the better out of villa after they knocked us out. Shame Connell never came on, how do you date him? Looks a great pen taker after all we have missed 3/3 this season. Good luck hope you make wembley and I for one will be cheering you on Swindon till I die Onwards and upwards[/p][/quote]Rate not date lol smirg kcab

9:20pm Thu 10 Jan 13

macca1969 says...

If Ross gets Grimsby promoted then scores plenty next season in league two what will that prove? Nothing only his face didn't fit here or should I say his style if play. Its not that he isn't good enough only that we as a club don't play the style of football suited to Ross. I'm hoping they get promoted and Ross wins the league two golden boot next season to shut some of you lot up.
. To say he is rubbish at this level just because he doesn't suit or fit into our system is a disgrace. Good luck Ross I hope you get to shut a few up on here but not at our expense I hope
If Ross gets Grimsby promoted then scores plenty next season in league two what will that prove? Nothing only his face didn't fit here or should I say his style if play. Its not that he isn't good enough only that we as a club don't play the style of football suited to Ross. I'm hoping they get promoted and Ross wins the league two golden boot next season to shut some of you lot up. . To say he is rubbish at this level just because he doesn't suit or fit into our system is a disgrace. Good luck Ross I hope you get to shut a few up on here but not at our expense I hope macca1969

9:27pm Thu 10 Jan 13

macca1969 says...

I know some Carlisle fans who say wells wasn't good enough to play park football let alone league. In our system with the big man he looks class. Its all about styles and systems, so come on lads don't knock him just wish him the best as that's all he ever gave us and he was proud to wear our shirt.
I know some Carlisle fans who say wells wasn't good enough to play park football let alone league. In our system with the big man he looks class. Its all about styles and systems, so come on lads don't knock him just wish him the best as that's all he ever gave us and he was proud to wear our shirt. macca1969

9:34pm Thu 10 Jan 13

mickyoi says...

macca1969 wrote:
If Ross gets Grimsby promoted then scores plenty next season in league two what will that prove? Nothing only his face didn't fit here or should I say his style if play. Its not that he isn't good enough only that we as a club don't play the style of football suited to Ross. I'm hoping they get promoted and Ross wins the league two golden boot next season to shut some of you lot up.
. To say he is rubbish at this level just because he doesn't suit or fit into our system is a disgrace. Good luck Ross I hope you get to shut a few up on here but not at our expense I hope
Macca I've just had a look back at all the previous posts on this thread and can't see where someone says Ross Hannah is rubbish. Maybe I've missed it I don't know. Also there's a lot of big IFS in your post. What IF andy Gray got us promoted and what IF he got league one golden boot next season would that shut a lot of people up.
[quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: If Ross gets Grimsby promoted then scores plenty next season in league two what will that prove? Nothing only his face didn't fit here or should I say his style if play. Its not that he isn't good enough only that we as a club don't play the style of football suited to Ross. I'm hoping they get promoted and Ross wins the league two golden boot next season to shut some of you lot up. . To say he is rubbish at this level just because he doesn't suit or fit into our system is a disgrace. Good luck Ross I hope you get to shut a few up on here but not at our expense I hope[/p][/quote]Macca I've just had a look back at all the previous posts on this thread and can't see where someone says Ross Hannah is rubbish. Maybe I've missed it I don't know. Also there's a lot of big IFS in your post. What IF andy Gray got us promoted and what IF he got league one golden boot next season would that shut a lot of people up. mickyoi

10:06pm Thu 10 Jan 13

KnightMcCall says...

macca1969 wrote:
If Ross gets Grimsby promoted then scores plenty next season in league two what will that prove? Nothing only his face didn't fit here or should I say his style if play. Its not that he isn't good enough only that we as a club don't play the style of football suited to Ross. I'm hoping they get promoted and Ross wins the league two golden boot next season to shut some of you lot up.
. To say he is rubbish at this level just because he doesn't suit or fit into our system is a disgrace. Good luck Ross I hope you get to shut a few up on here but not at our expense I hope
We can all have an opinion macca. If you think Hannah is good enough for league 2 then fair enough. It seems that some of us believe he has limitations and the concept of him banging in lots of goals in this division is highly unlikely. No point arguing about the future. You think he will score lots of goals in league football in future...noted. I dont. lets see what happens.BTW good luck to Ross...he deserves success.
[quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: If Ross gets Grimsby promoted then scores plenty next season in league two what will that prove? Nothing only his face didn't fit here or should I say his style if play. Its not that he isn't good enough only that we as a club don't play the style of football suited to Ross. I'm hoping they get promoted and Ross wins the league two golden boot next season to shut some of you lot up. . To say he is rubbish at this level just because he doesn't suit or fit into our system is a disgrace. Good luck Ross I hope you get to shut a few up on here but not at our expense I hope[/p][/quote]We can all have an opinion macca. If you think Hannah is good enough for league 2 then fair enough. It seems that some of us believe he has limitations and the concept of him banging in lots of goals in this division is highly unlikely. No point arguing about the future. You think he will score lots of goals in league football in future...noted. I dont. lets see what happens.BTW good luck to Ross...he deserves success. KnightMcCall

10:24pm Thu 10 Jan 13

340stopper says...

lawsonio123 wrote:
Good Luck Ross and Good Luck to Grimsby Some Good teams to beat but keep scoring lad hope you are promoted
Totally agree with all the best wishes for the lad,he did not fit our system - not the type to defend corners in his own box like Hanson often does etc.Hannah reminded me of Jimmy Greaves when Tottenham played a cup match at Valley Parade, if i remember rightly we were 2-0 up until Greaves(who had done nothing all match - no defending, marking or B***r all else) had two chances in the second half and both ended up in the net !! (Then we were well beaten in the replay).
However my biggest concern is still the lack of PP's new contract as i have already posted.
There is quite a managerial merry go round at the moment and PP will, i am sure , be a target for other clubs sooner or later.
[quote][p][bold]lawsonio123[/bold] wrote: Good Luck Ross and Good Luck to Grimsby Some Good teams to beat but keep scoring lad hope you are promoted[/p][/quote]Totally agree with all the best wishes for the lad,he did not fit our system - not the type to defend corners in his own box like Hanson often does etc.Hannah reminded me of Jimmy Greaves when Tottenham played a cup match at Valley Parade, if i remember rightly we were 2-0 up until Greaves(who had done nothing all match - no defending, marking or B***r all else) had two chances in the second half and both ended up in the net !! (Then we were well beaten in the replay). However my biggest concern is still the lack of PP's new contract as i have already posted. There is quite a managerial merry go round at the moment and PP will, i am sure , be a target for other clubs sooner or later. 340stopper

10:33pm Thu 10 Jan 13

keefluarr says...

I reckon this signing will send shockwaves around the world.
I reckon this signing will send shockwaves around the world. keefluarr

10:44pm Thu 10 Jan 13

macca1969 says...

KnightMcCall wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
If Ross gets Grimsby promoted then scores plenty next season in league two what will that prove? Nothing only his face didn't fit here or should I say his style if play. Its not that he isn't good enough only that we as a club don't play the style of football suited to Ross. I'm hoping they get promoted and Ross wins the league two golden boot next season to shut some of you lot up.
. To say he is rubbish at this level just because he doesn't suit or fit into our system is a disgrace. Good luck Ross I hope you get to shut a few up on here but not at our expense I hope
We can all have an opinion macca. If you think Hannah is good enough for league 2 then fair enough. It seems that some of us believe he has limitations and the concept of him banging in lots of goals in this division is highly unlikely. No point arguing about the future. You think he will score lots of goals in league football in future...noted. I dont. lets see what happens.BTW good luck to Ross...he deserves success.
I'm all for opinions and I'm not saying he will score loads just he never got the chance. He is a goalscorer and offers little else whereas parky prefers a work horse who scores very little, which is fine as the system with wells getting the goals is working. Only thing I'm knocking is why people have to knock the guy when he has less than six hours football to prove his worth. Why do people on here think the conference is so poor. How many league teams cone straight back? Why do most of the promoted teams always seem to fare well and in recent years finish higher than our team in the league if the gulf is so massive. He will score goals in league two with Grimsby if they are promoted because they will play to his strengths. Parkinson as only ever praised the lad and his attitude
[quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: If Ross gets Grimsby promoted then scores plenty next season in league two what will that prove? Nothing only his face didn't fit here or should I say his style if play. Its not that he isn't good enough only that we as a club don't play the style of football suited to Ross. I'm hoping they get promoted and Ross wins the league two golden boot next season to shut some of you lot up. . To say he is rubbish at this level just because he doesn't suit or fit into our system is a disgrace. Good luck Ross I hope you get to shut a few up on here but not at our expense I hope[/p][/quote]We can all have an opinion macca. If you think Hannah is good enough for league 2 then fair enough. It seems that some of us believe he has limitations and the concept of him banging in lots of goals in this division is highly unlikely. No point arguing about the future. You think he will score lots of goals in league football in future...noted. I dont. lets see what happens.BTW good luck to Ross...he deserves success.[/p][/quote]I'm all for opinions and I'm not saying he will score loads just he never got the chance. He is a goalscorer and offers little else whereas parky prefers a work horse who scores very little, which is fine as the system with wells getting the goals is working. Only thing I'm knocking is why people have to knock the guy when he has less than six hours football to prove his worth. Why do people on here think the conference is so poor. How many league teams cone straight back? Why do most of the promoted teams always seem to fare well and in recent years finish higher than our team in the league if the gulf is so massive. He will score goals in league two with Grimsby if they are promoted because they will play to his strengths. Parkinson as only ever praised the lad and his attitude macca1969

11:26pm Thu 10 Jan 13

The Hump says...

Grimsby you have a signed a little "GEM" there..... Good luck Ross.
Grimsby you have a signed a little "GEM" there..... Good luck Ross. The Hump

12:51am Fri 11 Jan 13

alfucham says...

For the best for lad and club.
Not in the team and would walk for free in three months.

Good business but signing a 35 year old may be a gamble over 18 months.
For the best for lad and club. Not in the team and would walk for free in three months. Good business but signing a 35 year old may be a gamble over 18 months. alfucham

5:50am Fri 11 Jan 13

cookie_brighton says...

Im reading that Southamptons 26 yr old defender Ryan Dickson is poised to sign on loan, the finalisation is said, to be agreed today, friday.
ctid
Im reading that Southamptons 26 yr old defender Ryan Dickson is poised to sign on loan, the finalisation is said, to be agreed today, friday. ctid cookie_brighton

8:47am Fri 11 Jan 13

Saltaire Bantam says...

If we ever play grimsby at valley parade he is going to get a hatrick.
If we ever play grimsby at valley parade he is going to get a hatrick. Saltaire Bantam

9:17am Fri 11 Jan 13

KnightMcCall says...

Saltaire Bantam wrote:
If we ever play grimsby at valley parade he is going to get a hatrick.
I think you are more likely to see Tommy Cooper do a Hat Trick...
[quote][p][bold]Saltaire Bantam[/bold] wrote: If we ever play grimsby at valley parade he is going to get a hatrick.[/p][/quote]I think you are more likely to see Tommy Cooper do a Hat Trick... KnightMcCall

9:21am Fri 11 Jan 13

KnightMcCall says...

macca1969 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
If Ross gets Grimsby promoted then scores plenty next season in league two what will that prove? Nothing only his face didn't fit here or should I say his style if play. Its not that he isn't good enough only that we as a club don't play the style of football suited to Ross. I'm hoping they get promoted and Ross wins the league two golden boot next season to shut some of you lot up.
. To say he is rubbish at this level just because he doesn't suit or fit into our system is a disgrace. Good luck Ross I hope you get to shut a few up on here but not at our expense I hope
We can all have an opinion macca. If you think Hannah is good enough for league 2 then fair enough. It seems that some of us believe he has limitations and the concept of him banging in lots of goals in this division is highly unlikely. No point arguing about the future. You think he will score lots of goals in league football in future...noted. I dont. lets see what happens.BTW good luck to Ross...he deserves success.
I'm all for opinions and I'm not saying he will score loads just he never got the chance. He is a goalscorer and offers little else whereas parky prefers a work horse who scores very little, which is fine as the system with wells getting the goals is working. Only thing I'm knocking is why people have to knock the guy when he has less than six hours football to prove his worth. Why do people on here think the conference is so poor. How many league teams cone straight back? Why do most of the promoted teams always seem to fare well and in recent years finish higher than our team in the league if the gulf is so massive. He will score goals in league two with Grimsby if they are promoted because they will play to his strengths. Parkinson as only ever praised the lad and his attitude
Macca. Ho much time do you think PP should allow a player to prove his worth. PP knows more than we do; sees him every day in training, has seen him play friendlies and reserve fixtures i.e. the man who makes the decisions has seen vastly more than six hours. As a result of what he has seen; he does not think it is worth risking his own job by giving Ross more 1st team action than he has had. With Wells on 16 for the season Connell on 8 and Hanson on 7; where exactly do you think the opportunity to play Hannah has been? If our top 3 scorers continue in the same vein for the rest of the season then they will have a similar haul between them to a certain Mills, Blake and Beagrie.
[quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: If Ross gets Grimsby promoted then scores plenty next season in league two what will that prove? Nothing only his face didn't fit here or should I say his style if play. Its not that he isn't good enough only that we as a club don't play the style of football suited to Ross. I'm hoping they get promoted and Ross wins the league two golden boot next season to shut some of you lot up. . To say he is rubbish at this level just because he doesn't suit or fit into our system is a disgrace. Good luck Ross I hope you get to shut a few up on here but not at our expense I hope[/p][/quote]We can all have an opinion macca. If you think Hannah is good enough for league 2 then fair enough. It seems that some of us believe he has limitations and the concept of him banging in lots of goals in this division is highly unlikely. No point arguing about the future. You think he will score lots of goals in league football in future...noted. I dont. lets see what happens.BTW good luck to Ross...he deserves success.[/p][/quote]I'm all for opinions and I'm not saying he will score loads just he never got the chance. He is a goalscorer and offers little else whereas parky prefers a work horse who scores very little, which is fine as the system with wells getting the goals is working. Only thing I'm knocking is why people have to knock the guy when he has less than six hours football to prove his worth. Why do people on here think the conference is so poor. How many league teams cone straight back? Why do most of the promoted teams always seem to fare well and in recent years finish higher than our team in the league if the gulf is so massive. He will score goals in league two with Grimsby if they are promoted because they will play to his strengths. Parkinson as only ever praised the lad and his attitude[/p][/quote]Macca. Ho much time do you think PP should allow a player to prove his worth. PP knows more than we do; sees him every day in training, has seen him play friendlies and reserve fixtures i.e. the man who makes the decisions has seen vastly more than six hours. As a result of what he has seen; he does not think it is worth risking his own job by giving Ross more 1st team action than he has had. With Wells on 16 for the season Connell on 8 and Hanson on 7; where exactly do you think the opportunity to play Hannah has been? If our top 3 scorers continue in the same vein for the rest of the season then they will have a similar haul between them to a certain Mills, Blake and Beagrie. KnightMcCall

12:02pm Fri 11 Jan 13

macca1969 says...

KnightMcCall wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
If Ross gets Grimsby promoted then scores plenty next season in league two what will that prove? Nothing only his face didn't fit here or should I say his style if play. Its not that he isn't good enough only that we as a club don't play the style of football suited to Ross. I'm hoping they get promoted and Ross wins the league two golden boot next season to shut some of you lot up.
. To say he is rubbish at this level just because he doesn't suit or fit into our system is a disgrace. Good luck Ross I hope you get to shut a few up on here but not at our expense I hope
We can all have an opinion macca. If you think Hannah is good enough for league 2 then fair enough. It seems that some of us believe he has limitations and the concept of him banging in lots of goals in this division is highly unlikely. No point arguing about the future. You think he will score lots of goals in league football in future...noted. I dont. lets see what happens.BTW good luck to Ross...he deserves success.
I'm all for opinions and I'm not saying he will score loads just he never got the chance. He is a goalscorer and offers little else whereas parky prefers a work horse who scores very little, which is fine as the system with wells getting the goals is working. Only thing I'm knocking is why people have to knock the guy when he has less than six hours football to prove his worth. Why do people on here think the conference is so poor. How many league teams cone straight back? Why do most of the promoted teams always seem to fare well and in recent years finish higher than our team in the league if the gulf is so massive. He will score goals in league two with Grimsby if they are promoted because they will play to his strengths. Parkinson as only ever praised the lad and his attitude
Macca. Ho much time do you think PP should allow a player to prove his worth. PP knows more than we do; sees him every day in training, has seen him play friendlies and reserve fixtures i.e. the man who makes the decisions has seen vastly more than six hours. As a result of what he has seen; he does not think it is worth risking his own job by giving Ross more 1st team action than he has had. With Wells on 16 for the season Connell on 8 and Hanson on 7; where exactly do you think the opportunity to play Hannah has been? If our top 3 scorers continue in the same vein for the rest of the season then they will have a similar haul between them to a certain Mills, Blake and Beagrie.
But that is not what I am saying. What gets me is that people write him off at this level dissing his abilities. All I am saying is he will score goals at this level in a team set up to play to his strength. Parky has only ever praised the lad has he not, but obviously he sets the team up to play in a style that does not suit Ross, as such he is correct to move him on. I am not disputing or questioning his decision, just why some fans have to judge him when we haven't seen him in action that much. If you are good enough in the conference your good enough in league two.
[quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: If Ross gets Grimsby promoted then scores plenty next season in league two what will that prove? Nothing only his face didn't fit here or should I say his style if play. Its not that he isn't good enough only that we as a club don't play the style of football suited to Ross. I'm hoping they get promoted and Ross wins the league two golden boot next season to shut some of you lot up. . To say he is rubbish at this level just because he doesn't suit or fit into our system is a disgrace. Good luck Ross I hope you get to shut a few up on here but not at our expense I hope[/p][/quote]We can all have an opinion macca. If you think Hannah is good enough for league 2 then fair enough. It seems that some of us believe he has limitations and the concept of him banging in lots of goals in this division is highly unlikely. No point arguing about the future. You think he will score lots of goals in league football in future...noted. I dont. lets see what happens.BTW good luck to Ross...he deserves success.[/p][/quote]I'm all for opinions and I'm not saying he will score loads just he never got the chance. He is a goalscorer and offers little else whereas parky prefers a work horse who scores very little, which is fine as the system with wells getting the goals is working. Only thing I'm knocking is why people have to knock the guy when he has less than six hours football to prove his worth. Why do people on here think the conference is so poor. How many league teams cone straight back? Why do most of the promoted teams always seem to fare well and in recent years finish higher than our team in the league if the gulf is so massive. He will score goals in league two with Grimsby if they are promoted because they will play to his strengths. Parkinson as only ever praised the lad and his attitude[/p][/quote]Macca. Ho much time do you think PP should allow a player to prove his worth. PP knows more than we do; sees him every day in training, has seen him play friendlies and reserve fixtures i.e. the man who makes the decisions has seen vastly more than six hours. As a result of what he has seen; he does not think it is worth risking his own job by giving Ross more 1st team action than he has had. With Wells on 16 for the season Connell on 8 and Hanson on 7; where exactly do you think the opportunity to play Hannah has been? If our top 3 scorers continue in the same vein for the rest of the season then they will have a similar haul between them to a certain Mills, Blake and Beagrie.[/p][/quote]But that is not what I am saying. What gets me is that people write him off at this level dissing his abilities. All I am saying is he will score goals at this level in a team set up to play to his strength. Parky has only ever praised the lad has he not, but obviously he sets the team up to play in a style that does not suit Ross, as such he is correct to move him on. I am not disputing or questioning his decision, just why some fans have to judge him when we haven't seen him in action that much. If you are good enough in the conference your good enough in league two. macca1969

12:56pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Cityman23 says...

We'll never really know if 'PP' didn't rate Ross Hannah but we DO know that Nahki Wells' ' rising star status' eclipsed RH, so that Hanson/Wells became the estabished front two when once it was meant to be Hanson/Hannah. After 'PP' signed Alan Connell, RH fell even further down the 'pecking order.' And RH wouldn't have been human if that didn't affect his confidence!

On the occasions (not many) when he DID play, RH was disappointing based around the fact his role was basically to put the ball in the net ..and he didn't do it..enough. (for City) But yes, it can be fairly argued he didn't get ENOUGH opportunities to 'bond' with fellow strikers to do this. (A bit like 'which came first ..the chicken or the egg?!!' ie more opportunities might have meant more goals...more goals might have meant more opportunities etc etc!!)

Still, no-one has ever suggested, despite their positive/negative view of his 'merits' as a scorer that he didn't TRY to score/do his best for City..so on that basis...we should all wish him well..in a new start at Grimsby.
We'll never really know if 'PP' didn't rate Ross Hannah but we DO know that Nahki Wells' ' rising star status' eclipsed RH, so that Hanson/Wells became the estabished front two when once it was meant to be Hanson/Hannah. After 'PP' signed Alan Connell, RH fell even further down the 'pecking order.' And RH wouldn't have been human if that didn't affect his confidence! On the occasions (not many) when he DID play, RH was disappointing based around the fact his role was basically to put the ball in the net ..and he didn't do it..enough. (for City) But yes, it can be fairly argued he didn't get ENOUGH opportunities to 'bond' with fellow strikers to do this. (A bit like 'which came first ..the chicken or the egg?!!' ie more opportunities might have meant more goals...more goals might have meant more opportunities etc etc!!) Still, no-one has ever suggested, despite their positive/negative view of his 'merits' as a scorer that he didn't TRY to score/do his best for City..so on that basis...we should all wish him well..in a new start at Grimsby. Cityman23

1:16pm Fri 11 Jan 13

340stopper says...

macca1969 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
macca1969 wrote: If Ross gets Grimsby promoted then scores plenty next season in league two what will that prove? Nothing only his face didn't fit here or should I say his style if play. Its not that he isn't good enough only that we as a club don't play the style of football suited to Ross. I'm hoping they get promoted and Ross wins the league two golden boot next season to shut some of you lot up. . To say he is rubbish at this level just because he doesn't suit or fit into our system is a disgrace. Good luck Ross I hope you get to shut a few up on here but not at our expense I hope
We can all have an opinion macca. If you think Hannah is good enough for league 2 then fair enough. It seems that some of us believe he has limitations and the concept of him banging in lots of goals in this division is highly unlikely. No point arguing about the future. You think he will score lots of goals in league football in future...noted. I dont. lets see what happens.BTW good luck to Ross...he deserves success.
I'm all for opinions and I'm not saying he will score loads just he never got the chance. He is a goalscorer and offers little else whereas parky prefers a work horse who scores very little, which is fine as the system with wells getting the goals is working. Only thing I'm knocking is why people have to knock the guy when he has less than six hours football to prove his worth. Why do people on here think the conference is so poor. How many league teams cone straight back? Why do most of the promoted teams always seem to fare well and in recent years finish higher than our team in the league if the gulf is so massive. He will score goals in league two with Grimsby if they are promoted because they will play to his strengths. Parkinson as only ever praised the lad and his attitude
Well put Macca.
[quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: If Ross gets Grimsby promoted then scores plenty next season in league two what will that prove? Nothing only his face didn't fit here or should I say his style if play. Its not that he isn't good enough only that we as a club don't play the style of football suited to Ross. I'm hoping they get promoted and Ross wins the league two golden boot next season to shut some of you lot up. . To say he is rubbish at this level just because he doesn't suit or fit into our system is a disgrace. Good luck Ross I hope you get to shut a few up on here but not at our expense I hope[/p][/quote]We can all have an opinion macca. If you think Hannah is good enough for league 2 then fair enough. It seems that some of us believe he has limitations and the concept of him banging in lots of goals in this division is highly unlikely. No point arguing about the future. You think he will score lots of goals in league football in future...noted. I dont. lets see what happens.BTW good luck to Ross...he deserves success.[/p][/quote]I'm all for opinions and I'm not saying he will score loads just he never got the chance. He is a goalscorer and offers little else whereas parky prefers a work horse who scores very little, which is fine as the system with wells getting the goals is working. Only thing I'm knocking is why people have to knock the guy when he has less than six hours football to prove his worth. Why do people on here think the conference is so poor. How many league teams cone straight back? Why do most of the promoted teams always seem to fare well and in recent years finish higher than our team in the league if the gulf is so massive. He will score goals in league two with Grimsby if they are promoted because they will play to his strengths. Parkinson as only ever praised the lad and his attitude[/p][/quote]Well put Macca. 340stopper

1:30pm Fri 11 Jan 13

macca1969 says...

Cityman23 wrote:
We'll never really know if 'PP' didn't rate Ross Hannah but we DO know that Nahki Wells' ' rising star status' eclipsed RH, so that Hanson/Wells became the estabished front two when once it was meant to be Hanson/Hannah. After 'PP' signed Alan Connell, RH fell even further down the 'pecking order.' And RH wouldn't have been human if that didn't affect his confidence!

On the occasions (not many) when he DID play, RH was disappointing based around the fact his role was basically to put the ball in the net ..and he didn't do it..enough. (for City) But yes, it can be fairly argued he didn't get ENOUGH opportunities to 'bond' with fellow strikers to do this. (A bit like 'which came first ..the chicken or the egg?!!' ie more opportunities might have meant more goals...more goals might have meant more opportunities etc etc!!)

Still, no-one has ever suggested, despite their positive/negative view of his 'merits' as a scorer that he didn't TRY to score/do his best for City..so on that basis...we should all wish him well..in a new start at Grimsby.
Can't argue with that, it is a fair summary of his time with us
[quote][p][bold]Cityman23[/bold] wrote: We'll never really know if 'PP' didn't rate Ross Hannah but we DO know that Nahki Wells' ' rising star status' eclipsed RH, so that Hanson/Wells became the estabished front two when once it was meant to be Hanson/Hannah. After 'PP' signed Alan Connell, RH fell even further down the 'pecking order.' And RH wouldn't have been human if that didn't affect his confidence! On the occasions (not many) when he DID play, RH was disappointing based around the fact his role was basically to put the ball in the net ..and he didn't do it..enough. (for City) But yes, it can be fairly argued he didn't get ENOUGH opportunities to 'bond' with fellow strikers to do this. (A bit like 'which came first ..the chicken or the egg?!!' ie more opportunities might have meant more goals...more goals might have meant more opportunities etc etc!!) Still, no-one has ever suggested, despite their positive/negative view of his 'merits' as a scorer that he didn't TRY to score/do his best for City..so on that basis...we should all wish him well..in a new start at Grimsby.[/p][/quote]Can't argue with that, it is a fair summary of his time with us macca1969

2:00pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Waynus1971 says...

KnightMcCall wrote:
Birky_Neil wrote:
mickyoi wrote: Thank god for that. At least we don't have to listen to all his lovers banging on about how amazing he is and should be playing for us every week. Conference is his level. Good luck to the lad though, hope he does well for them. Just not good enough to get in our team.
And how the hell do u know he is not good enough when he has never been given a chance idiot.
He made 19 appearances for City. I saw most of them. He wasn't good enough. Time to move on.
B0ll0x fella. Yes, he may have made 19 appearances, but how many of those were just 5 mins here and there? How many minutes did he ACTUALLY spend on the pitch? More importantly, how many CONSECUTIVE games did he play for us?
ANY striker would struggle to be consistent with a start here, five mins there and a couple of months not getting off the bench....!

You didn't rate him, fair enough, but lets stop this "FACT" that he isn't good enough to play at this level. Hopefully Grimsby will get promoted and then we will finally be able to judge, once and for all, whether he can cut it at this level...!
[quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Birky_Neil[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickyoi[/bold] wrote: Thank god for that. At least we don't have to listen to all his lovers banging on about how amazing he is and should be playing for us every week. Conference is his level. Good luck to the lad though, hope he does well for them. Just not good enough to get in our team.[/p][/quote]And how the hell do u know he is not good enough when he has never been given a chance idiot.[/p][/quote]He made 19 appearances for City. I saw most of them. He wasn't good enough. Time to move on.[/p][/quote]B0ll0x fella. Yes, he may have made 19 appearances, but how many of those were just 5 mins here and there? How many minutes did he ACTUALLY spend on the pitch? More importantly, how many CONSECUTIVE games did he play for us? ANY striker would struggle to be consistent with a start here, five mins there and a couple of months not getting off the bench....! You didn't rate him, fair enough, but lets stop this "FACT" that he isn't good enough to play at this level. Hopefully Grimsby will get promoted and then we will finally be able to judge, once and for all, whether he can cut it at this level...! Waynus1971

2:40pm Fri 11 Jan 13

macca1969 says...

Waynus1971 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
Birky_Neil wrote:
mickyoi wrote: Thank god for that. At least we don't have to listen to all his lovers banging on about how amazing he is and should be playing for us every week. Conference is his level. Good luck to the lad though, hope he does well for them. Just not good enough to get in our team.
And how the hell do u know he is not good enough when he has never been given a chance idiot.
He made 19 appearances for City. I saw most of them. He wasn't good enough. Time to move on.
B0ll0x fella. Yes, he may have made 19 appearances, but how many of those were just 5 mins here and there? How many minutes did he ACTUALLY spend on the pitch? More importantly, how many CONSECUTIVE games did he play for us?
ANY striker would struggle to be consistent with a start here, five mins there and a couple of months not getting off the bench....!

You didn't rate him, fair enough, but lets stop this "FACT" that he isn't good enough to play at this level. Hopefully Grimsby will get promoted and then we will finally be able to judge, once and for all, whether he can cut it at this level...!
Lets put it this way although he doesn't contribute in the same way as Hanson his minutes on the pitch to goals ratio is far better than Hanson!
[quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Birky_Neil[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickyoi[/bold] wrote: Thank god for that. At least we don't have to listen to all his lovers banging on about how amazing he is and should be playing for us every week. Conference is his level. Good luck to the lad though, hope he does well for them. Just not good enough to get in our team.[/p][/quote]And how the hell do u know he is not good enough when he has never been given a chance idiot.[/p][/quote]He made 19 appearances for City. I saw most of them. He wasn't good enough. Time to move on.[/p][/quote]B0ll0x fella. Yes, he may have made 19 appearances, but how many of those were just 5 mins here and there? How many minutes did he ACTUALLY spend on the pitch? More importantly, how many CONSECUTIVE games did he play for us? ANY striker would struggle to be consistent with a start here, five mins there and a couple of months not getting off the bench....! You didn't rate him, fair enough, but lets stop this "FACT" that he isn't good enough to play at this level. Hopefully Grimsby will get promoted and then we will finally be able to judge, once and for all, whether he can cut it at this level...![/p][/quote]Lets put it this way although he doesn't contribute in the same way as Hanson his minutes on the pitch to goals ratio is far better than Hanson! macca1969

2:42pm Fri 11 Jan 13

KnightMcCall says...

Waynus1971 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
Birky_Neil wrote:
mickyoi wrote: Thank god for that. At least we don't have to listen to all his lovers banging on about how amazing he is and should be playing for us every week. Conference is his level. Good luck to the lad though, hope he does well for them. Just not good enough to get in our team.
And how the hell do u know he is not good enough when he has never been given a chance idiot.
He made 19 appearances for City. I saw most of them. He wasn't good enough. Time to move on.
B0ll0x fella. Yes, he may have made 19 appearances, but how many of those were just 5 mins here and there? How many minutes did he ACTUALLY spend on the pitch? More importantly, how many CONSECUTIVE games did he play for us?
ANY striker would struggle to be consistent with a start here, five mins there and a couple of months not getting off the bench....!

You didn't rate him, fair enough, but lets stop this "FACT" that he isn't good enough to play at this level. Hopefully Grimsby will get promoted and then we will finally be able to judge, once and for all, whether he can cut it at this level...!
Where do I state it is a fact? It is my opinion that he is not good enough and the "fact" that he got so little time in the first team shows what the management and coaching staff thought too. Perhaps I am just more astute than you are at gauging the quality of a player; like Will Atkinson for a start. You slated him after less time on the pitch than Ross has had and YOU WERE WRONG. It is possible that Ross will prove me wrong; i am happy to wait and see.

Compare the impact that Ross had in those 19 appearances with the impact that Wells had in the equivalent number of minutes on the pitch.

I've seen Hannah play enough to know that i'm pleased he is now a Grimsby player. Next time that you state that a player is good/bad/indifferent I will be happy to quiz you on the number of minutes you have watched them play to form that opinion.

As for hoping Grimsby win promotion so that we get to see how he performs in League 2; try reading the response I gave to your brother...where i said exactly the same thing.
[quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Birky_Neil[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickyoi[/bold] wrote: Thank god for that. At least we don't have to listen to all his lovers banging on about how amazing he is and should be playing for us every week. Conference is his level. Good luck to the lad though, hope he does well for them. Just not good enough to get in our team.[/p][/quote]And how the hell do u know he is not good enough when he has never been given a chance idiot.[/p][/quote]He made 19 appearances for City. I saw most of them. He wasn't good enough. Time to move on.[/p][/quote]B0ll0x fella. Yes, he may have made 19 appearances, but how many of those were just 5 mins here and there? How many minutes did he ACTUALLY spend on the pitch? More importantly, how many CONSECUTIVE games did he play for us? ANY striker would struggle to be consistent with a start here, five mins there and a couple of months not getting off the bench....! You didn't rate him, fair enough, but lets stop this "FACT" that he isn't good enough to play at this level. Hopefully Grimsby will get promoted and then we will finally be able to judge, once and for all, whether he can cut it at this level...![/p][/quote]Where do I state it is a fact? It is my opinion that he is not good enough and the "fact" that he got so little time in the first team shows what the management and coaching staff thought too. Perhaps I am just more astute than you are at gauging the quality of a player; like Will Atkinson for a start. You slated him after less time on the pitch than Ross has had and YOU WERE WRONG. It is possible that Ross will prove me wrong; i am happy to wait and see. Compare the impact that Ross had in those 19 appearances with the impact that Wells had in the equivalent number of minutes on the pitch. I've seen Hannah play enough to know that i'm pleased he is now a Grimsby player. Next time that you state that a player is good/bad/indifferent I will be happy to quiz you on the number of minutes you have watched them play to form that opinion. As for hoping Grimsby win promotion so that we get to see how he performs in League 2; try reading the response I gave to your brother...where i said exactly the same thing. KnightMcCall

3:13pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Waynus1971 says...

KnightMcCall wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
Birky_Neil wrote:
mickyoi wrote: Thank god for that. At least we don't have to listen to all his lovers banging on about how amazing he is and should be playing for us every week. Conference is his level. Good luck to the lad though, hope he does well for them. Just not good enough to get in our team.
And how the hell do u know he is not good enough when he has never been given a chance idiot.
He made 19 appearances for City. I saw most of them. He wasn't good enough. Time to move on.
B0ll0x fella. Yes, he may have made 19 appearances, but how many of those were just 5 mins here and there? How many minutes did he ACTUALLY spend on the pitch? More importantly, how many CONSECUTIVE games did he play for us? ANY striker would struggle to be consistent with a start here, five mins there and a couple of months not getting off the bench....! You didn't rate him, fair enough, but lets stop this "FACT" that he isn't good enough to play at this level. Hopefully Grimsby will get promoted and then we will finally be able to judge, once and for all, whether he can cut it at this level...!
Where do I state it is a fact? It is my opinion that he is not good enough and the "fact" that he got so little time in the first team shows what the management and coaching staff thought too. Perhaps I am just more astute than you are at gauging the quality of a player; like Will Atkinson for a start. You slated him after less time on the pitch than Ross has had and YOU WERE WRONG. It is possible that Ross will prove me wrong; i am happy to wait and see. Compare the impact that Ross had in those 19 appearances with the impact that Wells had in the equivalent number of minutes on the pitch. I've seen Hannah play enough to know that i'm pleased he is now a Grimsby player. Next time that you state that a player is good/bad/indifferent I will be happy to quiz you on the number of minutes you have watched them play to form that opinion. As for hoping Grimsby win promotion so that we get to see how he performs in League 2; try reading the response I gave to your brother...where i said exactly the same thing.
WRONG AGAIN FELLA!!! I was one of a minority that actually rated Atkinson. Said so when he signed and continually defended him throughout the season. Have a look back and then you can apologise. As with any player, I may have slated a performance, but I NEVER said he wasn't good enough!!!

As for the fact, it isn't a 'fact' that Hannah isn't good enough and is proven by the amount of time on the pitch. The 'fact' is that Wells (who Hannah was in direct competition with) deserved his place, thus there was no room for Hannah to start. Wells has been excellent, but that doesn't automatically mean that Hannah isn't good enough for League2. He just wasn't good enough to oust Wells.....!

In the above (response) post, you have claimed it is your opinion that Hannah wasn't good enough. However, in your original post, you never mentioned "in your opinion", thus implying it was a fact and not an opinion. Let me remind you what you typed, "He made 19 appearances for City. I saw most of them. He wasn't good enough". NO REFERNCE TO THIS JUST BEING YOUR OPINION...!

I hadn't read any other posts, I simply read the initial one and clicked 'reply'. You may have changed your opinion/quote, but by citing PP's decision not to play him, indicates that that isn't the case.

Wells is a completely different player to Hannah and thus will obviously have chance to make a different kind of impact. Hannah's record isn't much different to Connell's (for example) and I would argue that they have had a similar impact. Are you saying Connell (with his impact vs mins on pitch) is also not good enough...?
[quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Birky_Neil[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickyoi[/bold] wrote: Thank god for that. At least we don't have to listen to all his lovers banging on about how amazing he is and should be playing for us every week. Conference is his level. Good luck to the lad though, hope he does well for them. Just not good enough to get in our team.[/p][/quote]And how the hell do u know he is not good enough when he has never been given a chance idiot.[/p][/quote]He made 19 appearances for City. I saw most of them. He wasn't good enough. Time to move on.[/p][/quote]B0ll0x fella. Yes, he may have made 19 appearances, but how many of those were just 5 mins here and there? How many minutes did he ACTUALLY spend on the pitch? More importantly, how many CONSECUTIVE games did he play for us? ANY striker would struggle to be consistent with a start here, five mins there and a couple of months not getting off the bench....! You didn't rate him, fair enough, but lets stop this "FACT" that he isn't good enough to play at this level. Hopefully Grimsby will get promoted and then we will finally be able to judge, once and for all, whether he can cut it at this level...![/p][/quote]Where do I state it is a fact? It is my opinion that he is not good enough and the "fact" that he got so little time in the first team shows what the management and coaching staff thought too. Perhaps I am just more astute than you are at gauging the quality of a player; like Will Atkinson for a start. You slated him after less time on the pitch than Ross has had and YOU WERE WRONG. It is possible that Ross will prove me wrong; i am happy to wait and see. Compare the impact that Ross had in those 19 appearances with the impact that Wells had in the equivalent number of minutes on the pitch. I've seen Hannah play enough to know that i'm pleased he is now a Grimsby player. Next time that you state that a player is good/bad/indifferent I will be happy to quiz you on the number of minutes you have watched them play to form that opinion. As for hoping Grimsby win promotion so that we get to see how he performs in League 2; try reading the response I gave to your brother...where i said exactly the same thing.[/p][/quote]WRONG AGAIN FELLA!!! I was one of a minority that actually rated Atkinson. Said so when he signed and continually defended him throughout the season. Have a look back and then you can apologise. As with any player, I may have slated a performance, but I NEVER said he wasn't good enough!!! As for the fact, it isn't a 'fact' that Hannah isn't good enough and is proven by the amount of time on the pitch. The 'fact' is that Wells (who Hannah was in direct competition with) deserved his place, thus there was no room for Hannah to start. Wells has been excellent, but that doesn't automatically mean that Hannah isn't good enough for League2. He just wasn't good enough to oust Wells.....! In the above (response) post, you have claimed it is your opinion that Hannah wasn't good enough. However, in your original post, you never mentioned "in your opinion", thus implying it was a fact and not an opinion. Let me remind you what you typed, "He made 19 appearances for City. I saw most of them. He wasn't good enough". NO REFERNCE TO THIS JUST BEING YOUR OPINION...! I hadn't read any other posts, I simply read the initial one and clicked 'reply'. You may have changed your opinion/quote, but by citing PP's decision not to play him, indicates that that isn't the case. Wells is a completely different player to Hannah and thus will obviously have chance to make a different kind of impact. Hannah's record isn't much different to Connell's (for example) and I would argue that they have had a similar impact. Are you saying Connell (with his impact vs mins on pitch) is also not good enough...? Waynus1971

3:31pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Waynus1971 says...

COLATS wrote:
Birky_Neil wrote:
mickyoi wrote: Thank god for that. At least we don't have to listen to all his lovers banging on about how amazing he is and should be playing for us every week. Conference is his level. Good luck to the lad though, hope he does well for them. Just not good enough to get in our team.
And how the hell do u know he is not good enough when he has never been given a chance idiot.
Parky saw him every day not good enough get over it. We're,nt you the one banging on about colbeck??? Look where he ended up.
Again, Parkinson didn't see him every day. Hannah has been employed by the club for about 14mths of Parkinson's spell and for 6mths of that time, he was loaned out. Didn't "see him every day then" did he?

Besides, you don't know if PP rated him or not. All you know is that PP rated Hanson & Wells as "the best front pair in this division" and Hannah wasn't good enough to break up that partnership, just like Connell has struggled to do also. Are you saying Connell "isn't good enough" as well????

Hannah has gone and I wish him all the best for his future at Grimsby. I hope he has a successful career there and helps the Mariners get promoted. Then and only then, will we actually know if he is "good enough" to perform in League2.
[quote][p][bold]COLATS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Birky_Neil[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickyoi[/bold] wrote: Thank god for that. At least we don't have to listen to all his lovers banging on about how amazing he is and should be playing for us every week. Conference is his level. Good luck to the lad though, hope he does well for them. Just not good enough to get in our team.[/p][/quote]And how the hell do u know he is not good enough when he has never been given a chance idiot.[/p][/quote]Parky saw him every day not good enough get over it. We're,nt you the one banging on about colbeck??? Look where he ended up.[/p][/quote]Again, Parkinson didn't see him every day. Hannah has been employed by the club for about 14mths of Parkinson's spell and for 6mths of that time, he was loaned out. Didn't "see him every day then" did he? Besides, you don't know if PP rated him or not. All you know is that PP rated Hanson & Wells as "the best front pair in this division" and Hannah wasn't good enough to break up that partnership, just like Connell has struggled to do also. Are you saying Connell "isn't good enough" as well???? Hannah has gone and I wish him all the best for his future at Grimsby. I hope he has a successful career there and helps the Mariners get promoted. Then and only then, will we actually know if he is "good enough" to perform in League2. Waynus1971

3:41pm Fri 11 Jan 13

KnightMcCall says...

macca1969 wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
Birky_Neil wrote:
mickyoi wrote: Thank god for that. At least we don't have to listen to all his lovers banging on about how amazing he is and should be playing for us every week. Conference is his level. Good luck to the lad though, hope he does well for them. Just not good enough to get in our team.
And how the hell do u know he is not good enough when he has never been given a chance idiot.
He made 19 appearances for City. I saw most of them. He wasn't good enough. Time to move on.
B0ll0x fella. Yes, he may have made 19 appearances, but how many of those were just 5 mins here and there? How many minutes did he ACTUALLY spend on the pitch? More importantly, how many CONSECUTIVE games did he play for us?
ANY striker would struggle to be consistent with a start here, five mins there and a couple of months not getting off the bench....!

You didn't rate him, fair enough, but lets stop this "FACT" that he isn't good enough to play at this level. Hopefully Grimsby will get promoted and then we will finally be able to judge, once and for all, whether he can cut it at this level...!
Lets put it this way although he doesn't contribute in the same way as Hanson his minutes on the pitch to goals ratio is far better than Hanson!
Not for City it isn't.
[quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Birky_Neil[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickyoi[/bold] wrote: Thank god for that. At least we don't have to listen to all his lovers banging on about how amazing he is and should be playing for us every week. Conference is his level. Good luck to the lad though, hope he does well for them. Just not good enough to get in our team.[/p][/quote]And how the hell do u know he is not good enough when he has never been given a chance idiot.[/p][/quote]He made 19 appearances for City. I saw most of them. He wasn't good enough. Time to move on.[/p][/quote]B0ll0x fella. Yes, he may have made 19 appearances, but how many of those were just 5 mins here and there? How many minutes did he ACTUALLY spend on the pitch? More importantly, how many CONSECUTIVE games did he play for us? ANY striker would struggle to be consistent with a start here, five mins there and a couple of months not getting off the bench....! You didn't rate him, fair enough, but lets stop this "FACT" that he isn't good enough to play at this level. Hopefully Grimsby will get promoted and then we will finally be able to judge, once and for all, whether he can cut it at this level...![/p][/quote]Lets put it this way although he doesn't contribute in the same way as Hanson his minutes on the pitch to goals ratio is far better than Hanson![/p][/quote]Not for City it isn't. KnightMcCall

3:45pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Waynus1971 says...

KnightMcCall wrote:
macca1969 wrote: If Ross gets Grimsby promoted then scores plenty next season in league two what will that prove? Nothing only his face didn't fit here or should I say his style if play. Its not that he isn't good enough only that we as a club don't play the style of football suited to Ross. I'm hoping they get promoted and Ross wins the league two golden boot next season to shut some of you lot up. . To say he is rubbish at this level just because he doesn't suit or fit into our system is a disgrace. Good luck Ross I hope you get to shut a few up on here but not at our expense I hope
We can all have an opinion macca. If you think Hannah is good enough for league 2 then fair enough. It seems that some of us believe he has limitations and the concept of him banging in lots of goals in this division is highly unlikely. No point arguing about the future. You think he will score lots of goals in league football in future...noted. I dont. lets see what happens.BTW good luck to Ross...he deserves success.
But that is the issue. What are you not understanding fella? Does someone need to read it out slowly to you.

Macca hasn't said he thinks Hannah is good enough for league2. If you think he did, can you read it to me. The point Macca (and others) have made is that we DON'T know if he can cut it in League2 and find the comments that he can't a little premature and unfair on the lad.

You then go on to state Macca has said Hannah "will score lots of goals in league football in future". Again, he didn't say that did he! he said he "hoped" Hannah would score goals and shut some of the posters on here up....!

One final point. Parkinson did not rate Syers and always looked to drop him after a poor team performance last season. When Syers opted to move on, to get regular football, PP said he would be able to find a better player with the money (wages). Nobody can argue that Jones & Doyle are quality players, but that does not mean that because PP didn't pick Syers regularly, that he wasn't good enough...! Look how he is doing for Donnie in the league above us.
[quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: If Ross gets Grimsby promoted then scores plenty next season in league two what will that prove? Nothing only his face didn't fit here or should I say his style if play. Its not that he isn't good enough only that we as a club don't play the style of football suited to Ross. I'm hoping they get promoted and Ross wins the league two golden boot next season to shut some of you lot up. . To say he is rubbish at this level just because he doesn't suit or fit into our system is a disgrace. Good luck Ross I hope you get to shut a few up on here but not at our expense I hope[/p][/quote]We can all have an opinion macca. If you think Hannah is good enough for league 2 then fair enough. It seems that some of us believe he has limitations and the concept of him banging in lots of goals in this division is highly unlikely. No point arguing about the future. You think he will score lots of goals in league football in future...noted. I dont. lets see what happens.BTW good luck to Ross...he deserves success.[/p][/quote]But that is the issue. What are you not understanding fella? Does someone need to read it out slowly to you. Macca hasn't said he thinks Hannah is good enough for league2. If you think he did, can you read it to me. The point Macca (and others) have made is that we DON'T know if he can cut it in League2 and find the comments that he can't a little premature and unfair on the lad. You then go on to state Macca has said Hannah "will score lots of goals in league football in future". Again, he didn't say that did he! he said he "hoped" Hannah would score goals and shut some of the posters on here up....! One final point. Parkinson did not rate Syers and always looked to drop him after a poor team performance last season. When Syers opted to move on, to get regular football, PP said he would be able to find a better player with the money (wages). Nobody can argue that Jones & Doyle are quality players, but that does not mean that because PP didn't pick Syers regularly, that he wasn't good enough...! Look how he is doing for Donnie in the league above us. Waynus1971

4:10pm Fri 11 Jan 13

macca1969 says...

KnightMcCall wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
Birky_Neil wrote:
mickyoi wrote: Thank god for that. At least we don't have to listen to all his lovers banging on about how amazing he is and should be playing for us every week. Conference is his level. Good luck to the lad though, hope he does well for them. Just not good enough to get in our team.
And how the hell do u know he is not good enough when he has never been given a chance idiot.
He made 19 appearances for City. I saw most of them. He wasn't good enough. Time to move on.
B0ll0x fella. Yes, he may have made 19 appearances, but how many of those were just 5 mins here and there? How many minutes did he ACTUALLY spend on the pitch? More importantly, how many CONSECUTIVE games did he play for us?
ANY striker would struggle to be consistent with a start here, five mins there and a couple of months not getting off the bench....!

You didn't rate him, fair enough, but lets stop this "FACT" that he isn't good enough to play at this level. Hopefully Grimsby will get promoted and then we will finally be able to judge, once and for all, whether he can cut it at this level...!
Lets put it this way although he doesn't contribute in the same way as Hanson his minutes on the pitch to goals ratio is far better than Hanson!
Not for City it isn't.
Work it out yes it is. He scored 3 times in less than six hours on the pitch. What is hanson's ratio. Two goals in last 26 games
[quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Birky_Neil[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickyoi[/bold] wrote: Thank god for that. At least we don't have to listen to all his lovers banging on about how amazing he is and should be playing for us every week. Conference is his level. Good luck to the lad though, hope he does well for them. Just not good enough to get in our team.[/p][/quote]And how the hell do u know he is not good enough when he has never been given a chance idiot.[/p][/quote]He made 19 appearances for City. I saw most of them. He wasn't good enough. Time to move on.[/p][/quote]B0ll0x fella. Yes, he may have made 19 appearances, but how many of those were just 5 mins here and there? How many minutes did he ACTUALLY spend on the pitch? More importantly, how many CONSECUTIVE games did he play for us? ANY striker would struggle to be consistent with a start here, five mins there and a couple of months not getting off the bench....! You didn't rate him, fair enough, but lets stop this "FACT" that he isn't good enough to play at this level. Hopefully Grimsby will get promoted and then we will finally be able to judge, once and for all, whether he can cut it at this level...![/p][/quote]Lets put it this way although he doesn't contribute in the same way as Hanson his minutes on the pitch to goals ratio is far better than Hanson![/p][/quote]Not for City it isn't.[/p][/quote]Work it out yes it is. He scored 3 times in less than six hours on the pitch. What is hanson's ratio. Two goals in last 26 games macca1969

4:22pm Fri 11 Jan 13

macca1969 says...

He only ever started four times for city in the league. Twice being subbed and once injured. He has played less than six hours football for city giving him a goal ratio of one goal every two hours of football. That is one goal every game and half roughly speaking. So tell me how many goals per minutes on the pitch is Hanson's strike rate
He only ever started four times for city in the league. Twice being subbed and once injured. He has played less than six hours football for city giving him a goal ratio of one goal every two hours of football. That is one goal every game and half roughly speaking. So tell me how many goals per minutes on the pitch is Hanson's strike rate macca1969

4:28pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Waynus1971 says...

macca1969 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
macca1969 wrote: If Ross gets Grimsby promoted then scores plenty next season in league two what will that prove? Nothing only his face didn't fit here or should I say his style if play. Its not that he isn't good enough only that we as a club don't play the style of football suited to Ross. I'm hoping they get promoted and Ross wins the league two golden boot next season to shut some of you lot up. . To say he is rubbish at this level just because he doesn't suit or fit into our system is a disgrace. Good luck Ross I hope you get to shut a few up on here but not at our expense I hope
We can all have an opinion macca. If you think Hannah is good enough for league 2 then fair enough. It seems that some of us believe he has limitations and the concept of him banging in lots of goals in this division is highly unlikely. No point arguing about the future. You think he will score lots of goals in league football in future...noted. I dont. lets see what happens.BTW good luck to Ross...he deserves success.
I'm all for opinions and I'm not saying he will score loads just he never got the chance. He is a goalscorer and offers little else whereas parky prefers a work horse who scores very little, which is fine as the system with wells getting the goals is working. Only thing I'm knocking is why people have to knock the guy when he has less than six hours football to prove his worth. Why do people on here think the conference is so poor. How many league teams cone straight back? Why do most of the promoted teams always seem to fare well and in recent years finish higher than our team in the league if the gulf is so massive. He will score goals in league two with Grimsby if they are promoted because they will play to his strengths. Parkinson as only ever praised the lad and his attitude
Macca. Ho much time do you think PP should allow a player to prove his worth. PP knows more than we do; sees him every day in training, has seen him play friendlies and reserve fixtures i.e. the man who makes the decisions has seen vastly more than six hours. As a result of what he has seen; he does not think it is worth risking his own job by giving Ross more 1st team action than he has had. With Wells on 16 for the season Connell on 8 and Hanson on 7; where exactly do you think the opportunity to play Hannah has been? If our top 3 scorers continue in the same vein for the rest of the season then they will have a similar haul between them to a certain Mills, Blake and Beagrie.
But that is not what I am saying. What gets me is that people write him off at this level dissing his abilities. All I am saying is he will score goals at this level in a team set up to play to his strength. Parky has only ever praised the lad has he not, but obviously he sets the team up to play in a style that does not suit Ross, as such he is correct to move him on. I am not disputing or questioning his decision, just why some fans have to judge him when we haven't seen him in action that much. If you are good enough in the conference your good enough in league two.
You're wasting your breath on these lot Bro. Either they are EXTREMELY thick or are arguing for the sake of it.

How many times do you have to spell it out to some of these posters.

YOU havent said Hannah 'is good enough'
YOU haven't said PP is wrong to pick Hanson, Wells and Connell over him
YOU haven't said PP is wrong to release him before giving him a chance.

Why can't these people understand that you (and I) are merely saying that we don't know if he is "good enough" because he didn't get a long enough run. We're not saying he is good enough and dispute the claims by others that they KNOW he isn't good enough..!

If I had a 'head-shake' or 'roll-eyes' smiley, I would use it right now...!
[quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: If Ross gets Grimsby promoted then scores plenty next season in league two what will that prove? Nothing only his face didn't fit here or should I say his style if play. Its not that he isn't good enough only that we as a club don't play the style of football suited to Ross. I'm hoping they get promoted and Ross wins the league two golden boot next season to shut some of you lot up. . To say he is rubbish at this level just because he doesn't suit or fit into our system is a disgrace. Good luck Ross I hope you get to shut a few up on here but not at our expense I hope[/p][/quote]We can all have an opinion macca. If you think Hannah is good enough for league 2 then fair enough. It seems that some of us believe he has limitations and the concept of him banging in lots of goals in this division is highly unlikely. No point arguing about the future. You think he will score lots of goals in league football in future...noted. I dont. lets see what happens.BTW good luck to Ross...he deserves success.[/p][/quote]I'm all for opinions and I'm not saying he will score loads just he never got the chance. He is a goalscorer and offers little else whereas parky prefers a work horse who scores very little, which is fine as the system with wells getting the goals is working. Only thing I'm knocking is why people have to knock the guy when he has less than six hours football to prove his worth. Why do people on here think the conference is so poor. How many league teams cone straight back? Why do most of the promoted teams always seem to fare well and in recent years finish higher than our team in the league if the gulf is so massive. He will score goals in league two with Grimsby if they are promoted because they will play to his strengths. Parkinson as only ever praised the lad and his attitude[/p][/quote]Macca. Ho much time do you think PP should allow a player to prove his worth. PP knows more than we do; sees him every day in training, has seen him play friendlies and reserve fixtures i.e. the man who makes the decisions has seen vastly more than six hours. As a result of what he has seen; he does not think it is worth risking his own job by giving Ross more 1st team action than he has had. With Wells on 16 for the season Connell on 8 and Hanson on 7; where exactly do you think the opportunity to play Hannah has been? If our top 3 scorers continue in the same vein for the rest of the season then they will have a similar haul between them to a certain Mills, Blake and Beagrie.[/p][/quote]But that is not what I am saying. What gets me is that people write him off at this level dissing his abilities. All I am saying is he will score goals at this level in a team set up to play to his strength. Parky has only ever praised the lad has he not, but obviously he sets the team up to play in a style that does not suit Ross, as such he is correct to move him on. I am not disputing or questioning his decision, just why some fans have to judge him when we haven't seen him in action that much. If you are good enough in the conference your good enough in league two.[/p][/quote]You're wasting your breath on these lot Bro. Either they are EXTREMELY thick or are arguing for the sake of it. How many times do you have to spell it out to some of these posters. YOU havent said Hannah 'is good enough' YOU haven't said PP is wrong to pick Hanson, Wells and Connell over him YOU haven't said PP is wrong to release him before giving him a chance. Why can't these people understand that you (and I) are merely saying that we don't know if he is "good enough" because he didn't get a long enough run. We're not saying he is good enough and dispute the claims by others that they KNOW he isn't good enough..! If I had a 'head-shake' or 'roll-eyes' smiley, I would use it right now...! Waynus1971

4:33pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Waynus1971 says...

macca1969 wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
Birky_Neil wrote:
mickyoi wrote: Thank god for that. At least we don't have to listen to all his lovers banging on about how amazing he is and should be playing for us every week. Conference is his level. Good luck to the lad though, hope he does well for them. Just not good enough to get in our team.
And how the hell do u know he is not good enough when he has never been given a chance idiot.
He made 19 appearances for City. I saw most of them. He wasn't good enough. Time to move on.
B0ll0x fella. Yes, he may have made 19 appearances, but how many of those were just 5 mins here and there? How many minutes did he ACTUALLY spend on the pitch? More importantly, how many CONSECUTIVE games did he play for us? ANY striker would struggle to be consistent with a start here, five mins there and a couple of months not getting off the bench....! You didn't rate him, fair enough, but lets stop this "FACT" that he isn't good enough to play at this level. Hopefully Grimsby will get promoted and then we will finally be able to judge, once and for all, whether he can cut it at this level...!
Lets put it this way although he doesn't contribute in the same way as Hanson his minutes on the pitch to goals ratio is far better than Hanson!
To be fair, Andrew Davies' minutes on the pitch to goals ratio is far better than Hanson's..! LOL
[quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Birky_Neil[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickyoi[/bold] wrote: Thank god for that. At least we don't have to listen to all his lovers banging on about how amazing he is and should be playing for us every week. Conference is his level. Good luck to the lad though, hope he does well for them. Just not good enough to get in our team.[/p][/quote]And how the hell do u know he is not good enough when he has never been given a chance idiot.[/p][/quote]He made 19 appearances for City. I saw most of them. He wasn't good enough. Time to move on.[/p][/quote]B0ll0x fella. Yes, he may have made 19 appearances, but how many of those were just 5 mins here and there? How many minutes did he ACTUALLY spend on the pitch? More importantly, how many CONSECUTIVE games did he play for us? ANY striker would struggle to be consistent with a start here, five mins there and a couple of months not getting off the bench....! You didn't rate him, fair enough, but lets stop this "FACT" that he isn't good enough to play at this level. Hopefully Grimsby will get promoted and then we will finally be able to judge, once and for all, whether he can cut it at this level...![/p][/quote]Lets put it this way although he doesn't contribute in the same way as Hanson his minutes on the pitch to goals ratio is far better than Hanson![/p][/quote]To be fair, Andrew Davies' minutes on the pitch to goals ratio is far better than Hanson's..! LOL Waynus1971

4:43pm Fri 11 Jan 13

1955bantam says...

Totally agree with BantamBelle and Birky_Neil.
PP said Hannah was part of his plans. Any idea what plans?
Totally agree with BantamBelle and Birky_Neil. PP said Hannah was part of his plans. Any idea what plans? 1955bantam

4:45pm Fri 11 Jan 13

KnightMcCall says...

macca1969 wrote:
He only ever started four times for city in the league. Twice being subbed and once injured. He has played less than six hours football for city giving him a goal ratio of one goal every two hours of football. That is one goal every game and half roughly speaking. So tell me how many goals per minutes on the pitch is Hanson's strike rate
He scored 2 league goals for City...Oxford and Morcambe. Only other goal was in Cup vs Wombles. If you include the cup goal though you need to include cup appearances which makes 3 goals in 27 appearances. SO I repeat; "not for City he hasn't".

Still don't get where you and Waynus believe he just hasn't had any chances. Perhaps if you went to more games you would realise he has had plenty of opportunities and just hasn't done enough to earn more time on the pitch.
[quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: He only ever started four times for city in the league. Twice being subbed and once injured. He has played less than six hours football for city giving him a goal ratio of one goal every two hours of football. That is one goal every game and half roughly speaking. So tell me how many goals per minutes on the pitch is Hanson's strike rate[/p][/quote]He scored 2 league goals for City...Oxford and Morcambe. Only other goal was in Cup vs Wombles. If you include the cup goal though you need to include cup appearances which makes 3 goals in 27 appearances. SO I repeat; "not for City he hasn't". Still don't get where you and Waynus believe he just hasn't had any chances. Perhaps if you went to more games you would realise he has had plenty of opportunities and just hasn't done enough to earn more time on the pitch. KnightMcCall

4:49pm Fri 11 Jan 13

KnightMcCall says...

Waynus1971 wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
macca1969 wrote: If Ross gets Grimsby promoted then scores plenty next season in league two what will that prove? Nothing only his face didn't fit here or should I say his style if play. Its not that he isn't good enough only that we as a club don't play the style of football suited to Ross. I'm hoping they get promoted and Ross wins the league two golden boot next season to shut some of you lot up. . To say he is rubbish at this level just because he doesn't suit or fit into our system is a disgrace. Good luck Ross I hope you get to shut a few up on here but not at our expense I hope
We can all have an opinion macca. If you think Hannah is good enough for league 2 then fair enough. It seems that some of us believe he has limitations and the concept of him banging in lots of goals in this division is highly unlikely. No point arguing about the future. You think he will score lots of goals in league football in future...noted. I dont. lets see what happens.BTW good luck to Ross...he deserves success.
I'm all for opinions and I'm not saying he will score loads just he never got the chance. He is a goalscorer and offers little else whereas parky prefers a work horse who scores very little, which is fine as the system with wells getting the goals is working. Only thing I'm knocking is why people have to knock the guy when he has less than six hours football to prove his worth. Why do people on here think the conference is so poor. How many league teams cone straight back? Why do most of the promoted teams always seem to fare well and in recent years finish higher than our team in the league if the gulf is so massive. He will score goals in league two with Grimsby if they are promoted because they will play to his strengths. Parkinson as only ever praised the lad and his attitude
Macca. Ho much time do you think PP should allow a player to prove his worth. PP knows more than we do; sees him every day in training, has seen him play friendlies and reserve fixtures i.e. the man who makes the decisions has seen vastly more than six hours. As a result of what he has seen; he does not think it is worth risking his own job by giving Ross more 1st team action than he has had. With Wells on 16 for the season Connell on 8 and Hanson on 7; where exactly do you think the opportunity to play Hannah has been? If our top 3 scorers continue in the same vein for the rest of the season then they will have a similar haul between them to a certain Mills, Blake and Beagrie.
But that is not what I am saying. What gets me is that people write him off at this level dissing his abilities. All I am saying is he will score goals at this level in a team set up to play to his strength. Parky has only ever praised the lad has he not, but obviously he sets the team up to play in a style that does not suit Ross, as such he is correct to move him on. I am not disputing or questioning his decision, just why some fans have to judge him when we haven't seen him in action that much. If you are good enough in the conference your good enough in league two.
You're wasting your breath on these lot Bro. Either they are EXTREMELY thick or are arguing for the sake of it.

How many times do you have to spell it out to some of these posters.

YOU havent said Hannah 'is good enough'
YOU haven't said PP is wrong to pick Hanson, Wells and Connell over him
YOU haven't said PP is wrong to release him before giving him a chance.

Why can't these people understand that you (and I) are merely saying that we don't know if he is "good enough" because he didn't get a long enough run. We're not saying he is good enough and dispute the claims by others that they KNOW he isn't good enough..!

If I had a 'head-shake' or 'roll-eyes' smiley, I would use it right now...!
I for one am not disputing that you are not saying that Hannah is a worldbeater. The opinion that he isn't good enough is a response to your assertion that he hasn't had a chance to prove it. 27 appearances in total; even for 10 or 15 minutes a lot of the time is more than enough to show something and a lot more opportunity than many others get. It's also enough to form an opinion. By saying you think he should have had more opportunities then YOU ARE expressing an opinion that he was worthy of more opportunities; or are you just arguing for the sake of it?

Seriously Waynus; how quickly did you tell us all that Atkinson wasn't good enough for City...it didn't take 6 hours did it...
[quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: If Ross gets Grimsby promoted then scores plenty next season in league two what will that prove? Nothing only his face didn't fit here or should I say his style if play. Its not that he isn't good enough only that we as a club don't play the style of football suited to Ross. I'm hoping they get promoted and Ross wins the league two golden boot next season to shut some of you lot up. . To say he is rubbish at this level just because he doesn't suit or fit into our system is a disgrace. Good luck Ross I hope you get to shut a few up on here but not at our expense I hope[/p][/quote]We can all have an opinion macca. If you think Hannah is good enough for league 2 then fair enough. It seems that some of us believe he has limitations and the concept of him banging in lots of goals in this division is highly unlikely. No point arguing about the future. You think he will score lots of goals in league football in future...noted. I dont. lets see what happens.BTW good luck to Ross...he deserves success.[/p][/quote]I'm all for opinions and I'm not saying he will score loads just he never got the chance. He is a goalscorer and offers little else whereas parky prefers a work horse who scores very little, which is fine as the system with wells getting the goals is working. Only thing I'm knocking is why people have to knock the guy when he has less than six hours football to prove his worth. Why do people on here think the conference is so poor. How many league teams cone straight back? Why do most of the promoted teams always seem to fare well and in recent years finish higher than our team in the league if the gulf is so massive. He will score goals in league two with Grimsby if they are promoted because they will play to his strengths. Parkinson as only ever praised the lad and his attitude[/p][/quote]Macca. Ho much time do you think PP should allow a player to prove his worth. PP knows more than we do; sees him every day in training, has seen him play friendlies and reserve fixtures i.e. the man who makes the decisions has seen vastly more than six hours. As a result of what he has seen; he does not think it is worth risking his own job by giving Ross more 1st team action than he has had. With Wells on 16 for the season Connell on 8 and Hanson on 7; where exactly do you think the opportunity to play Hannah has been? If our top 3 scorers continue in the same vein for the rest of the season then they will have a similar haul between them to a certain Mills, Blake and Beagrie.[/p][/quote]But that is not what I am saying. What gets me is that people write him off at this level dissing his abilities. All I am saying is he will score goals at this level in a team set up to play to his strength. Parky has only ever praised the lad has he not, but obviously he sets the team up to play in a style that does not suit Ross, as such he is correct to move him on. I am not disputing or questioning his decision, just why some fans have to judge him when we haven't seen him in action that much. If you are good enough in the conference your good enough in league two.[/p][/quote]You're wasting your breath on these lot Bro. Either they are EXTREMELY thick or are arguing for the sake of it. How many times do you have to spell it out to some of these posters. YOU havent said Hannah 'is good enough' YOU haven't said PP is wrong to pick Hanson, Wells and Connell over him YOU haven't said PP is wrong to release him before giving him a chance. Why can't these people understand that you (and I) are merely saying that we don't know if he is "good enough" because he didn't get a long enough run. We're not saying he is good enough and dispute the claims by others that they KNOW he isn't good enough..! If I had a 'head-shake' or 'roll-eyes' smiley, I would use it right now...![/p][/quote]I for one am not disputing that you are not saying that Hannah is a worldbeater. The opinion that he isn't good enough is a response to your assertion that he hasn't had a chance to prove it. 27 appearances in total; even for 10 or 15 minutes a lot of the time is more than enough to show something and a lot more opportunity than many others get. It's also enough to form an opinion. By saying you think he should have had more opportunities then YOU ARE expressing an opinion that he was worthy of more opportunities; or are you just arguing for the sake of it? Seriously Waynus; how quickly did you tell us all that Atkinson wasn't good enough for City...it didn't take 6 hours did it... KnightMcCall

4:50pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Waynus1971 says...

macca1969 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
Birky_Neil wrote:
mickyoi wrote: Thank god for that. At least we don't have to listen to all his lovers banging on about how amazing he is and should be playing for us every week. Conference is his level. Good luck to the lad though, hope he does well for them. Just not good enough to get in our team.
And how the hell do u know he is not good enough when he has never been given a chance idiot.
He made 19 appearances for City. I saw most of them. He wasn't good enough. Time to move on.
B0ll0x fella. Yes, he may have made 19 appearances, but how many of those were just 5 mins here and there? How many minutes did he ACTUALLY spend on the pitch? More importantly, how many CONSECUTIVE games did he play for us? ANY striker would struggle to be consistent with a start here, five mins there and a couple of months not getting off the bench....! You didn't rate him, fair enough, but lets stop this "FACT" that he isn't good enough to play at this level. Hopefully Grimsby will get promoted and then we will finally be able to judge, once and for all, whether he can cut it at this level...!
Lets put it this way although he doesn't contribute in the same way as Hanson his minutes on the pitch to goals ratio is far better than Hanson!
Not for City it isn't.
Work it out yes it is. He scored 3 times in less than six hours on the pitch. What is hanson's ratio. Two goals in last 26 games
To be fair on both sied's Macca, you are comparing Hannah's record of last year with Hanson's record of this year. (Basically apples with pears). Surely you should be looking at Hannah's overall record at City vs Hanson's?

One thing that nobody else has mentioned is when Hannah played his games for us. He hasn't really kicked a ball for us in this successful season. He played most of his minutes in what can only be described as one of the worst teams we have ever had. Wells did very well and showed/is showing why he is highly rated. But other than Wells, who else tried and failed to perform up front for us last season? Dagnall came and went without setting the world alight. Is he not good enough for League2 either? What about Smalley or Fagan? They hardly banged goals in too. I think some people forget we finished 18th last season because we were crap as a team and didn't create boat-loads of chance for any of the strikers to take
[quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Birky_Neil[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickyoi[/bold] wrote: Thank god for that. At least we don't have to listen to all his lovers banging on about how amazing he is and should be playing for us every week. Conference is his level. Good luck to the lad though, hope he does well for them. Just not good enough to get in our team.[/p][/quote]And how the hell do u know he is not good enough when he has never been given a chance idiot.[/p][/quote]He made 19 appearances for City. I saw most of them. He wasn't good enough. Time to move on.[/p][/quote]B0ll0x fella. Yes, he may have made 19 appearances, but how many of those were just 5 mins here and there? How many minutes did he ACTUALLY spend on the pitch? More importantly, how many CONSECUTIVE games did he play for us? ANY striker would struggle to be consistent with a start here, five mins there and a couple of months not getting off the bench....! You didn't rate him, fair enough, but lets stop this "FACT" that he isn't good enough to play at this level. Hopefully Grimsby will get promoted and then we will finally be able to judge, once and for all, whether he can cut it at this level...![/p][/quote]Lets put it this way although he doesn't contribute in the same way as Hanson his minutes on the pitch to goals ratio is far better than Hanson![/p][/quote]Not for City it isn't.[/p][/quote]Work it out yes it is. He scored 3 times in less than six hours on the pitch. What is hanson's ratio. Two goals in last 26 games[/p][/quote]To be fair on both sied's Macca, you are comparing Hannah's record of last year with Hanson's record of this year. (Basically apples with pears). Surely you should be looking at Hannah's overall record at City vs Hanson's? One thing that nobody else has mentioned is when Hannah played his games for us. He hasn't really kicked a ball for us in this successful season. He played most of his minutes in what can only be described as one of the worst teams we have ever had. Wells did very well and showed/is showing why he is highly rated. But other than Wells, who else tried and failed to perform up front for us last season? Dagnall came and went without setting the world alight. Is he not good enough for League2 either? What about Smalley or Fagan? They hardly banged goals in too. I think some people forget we finished 18th last season because we were crap as a team and didn't create boat-loads of chance for any of the strikers to take Waynus1971

4:54pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Waynus1971 says...

KnightMcCall wrote:
macca1969 wrote: He only ever started four times for city in the league. Twice being subbed and once injured. He has played less than six hours football for city giving him a goal ratio of one goal every two hours of football. That is one goal every game and half roughly speaking. So tell me how many goals per minutes on the pitch is Hanson's strike rate
He scored 2 league goals for City...Oxford and Morcambe. Only other goal was in Cup vs Wombles. If you include the cup goal though you need to include cup appearances which makes 3 goals in 27 appearances. SO I repeat; "not for City he hasn't". Still don't get where you and Waynus believe he just hasn't had any chances. Perhaps if you went to more games you would realise he has had plenty of opportunities and just hasn't done enough to earn more time on the pitch.
Will you never learn? You are still forgetting the key words at the start of your sentence;
"In my opinion...........he has had plenty of opportunities and just hasn't done enough to earn more time on the pitch"...!
[quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: He only ever started four times for city in the league. Twice being subbed and once injured. He has played less than six hours football for city giving him a goal ratio of one goal every two hours of football. That is one goal every game and half roughly speaking. So tell me how many goals per minutes on the pitch is Hanson's strike rate[/p][/quote]He scored 2 league goals for City...Oxford and Morcambe. Only other goal was in Cup vs Wombles. If you include the cup goal though you need to include cup appearances which makes 3 goals in 27 appearances. SO I repeat; "not for City he hasn't". Still don't get where you and Waynus believe he just hasn't had any chances. Perhaps if you went to more games you would realise he has had plenty of opportunities and just hasn't done enough to earn more time on the pitch.[/p][/quote]Will you never learn? You are still forgetting the key words at the start of your sentence; "In my opinion...........he has had plenty of opportunities and just hasn't done enough to earn more time on the pitch"...! Waynus1971

5:06pm Fri 11 Jan 13

macca1969 says...

KnightMcCall wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
He only ever started four times for city in the league. Twice being subbed and once injured. He has played less than six hours football for city giving him a goal ratio of one goal every two hours of football. That is one goal every game and half roughly speaking. So tell me how many goals per minutes on the pitch is Hanson's strike rate
He scored 2 league goals for City...Oxford and Morcambe. Only other goal was in Cup vs Wombles. If you include the cup goal though you need to include cup appearances which makes 3 goals in 27 appearances. SO I repeat; "not for City he hasn't".

Still don't get where you and Waynus believe he just hasn't had any chances. Perhaps if you went to more games you would realise he has had plenty of opportunities and just hasn't done enough to earn more time on the pitch.
Your a right Rodney trotter you aren't you. So when you count his appearances six minutes here or ten minutes there is a full game and therefore a chance. He played less than six hours football for city whether he had 27 matches ir not. He was only on the pitch for less than four games in total. If you want to put the two jpt games in alongside the ten minutes in the capitol one then he still played only six full games in terms of minutes on the pitch giving him 3 goals in nine hours of football,which is still a better strike rate than Hanson
[quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: He only ever started four times for city in the league. Twice being subbed and once injured. He has played less than six hours football for city giving him a goal ratio of one goal every two hours of football. That is one goal every game and half roughly speaking. So tell me how many goals per minutes on the pitch is Hanson's strike rate[/p][/quote]He scored 2 league goals for City...Oxford and Morcambe. Only other goal was in Cup vs Wombles. If you include the cup goal though you need to include cup appearances which makes 3 goals in 27 appearances. SO I repeat; "not for City he hasn't". Still don't get where you and Waynus believe he just hasn't had any chances. Perhaps if you went to more games you would realise he has had plenty of opportunities and just hasn't done enough to earn more time on the pitch.[/p][/quote]Your a right Rodney trotter you aren't you. So when you count his appearances six minutes here or ten minutes there is a full game and therefore a chance. He played less than six hours football for city whether he had 27 matches ir not. He was only on the pitch for less than four games in total. If you want to put the two jpt games in alongside the ten minutes in the capitol one then he still played only six full games in terms of minutes on the pitch giving him 3 goals in nine hours of football,which is still a better strike rate than Hanson macca1969

5:16pm Fri 11 Jan 13

macca1969 says...

KnightMcCall wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
He only ever started four times for city in the league. Twice being subbed and once injured. He has played less than six hours football for city giving him a goal ratio of one goal every two hours of football. That is one goal every game and half roughly speaking. So tell me how many goals per minutes on the pitch is Hanson's strike rate
He scored 2 league goals for City...Oxford and Morcambe. Only other goal was in Cup vs Wombles. If you include the cup goal though you need to include cup appearances which makes 3 goals in 27 appearances. SO I repeat; "not for City he hasn't".

Still don't get where you and Waynus believe he just hasn't had any chances. Perhaps if you went to more games you would realise he has had plenty of opportunities and just hasn't done enough to earn more time on the pitch.
Maybe if you went to more games you would see Hannah was the one on the bench sent on in last five minutes when it had all gone wrong. In fact do you actually know who Ross is or what he looks like? You do sound a very pug headed sort if person who only see's what he wants. To say he had 27 games is a joke, especially when 20 of them were 20 minutes or less. All I wanted to do was get the knockers off his back and give the lad a fair hearing, some people like you are hypocrites, rising to anyone who knocks a player you rate but stand there dissing the abilities of others youtself
[quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: He only ever started four times for city in the league. Twice being subbed and once injured. He has played less than six hours football for city giving him a goal ratio of one goal every two hours of football. That is one goal every game and half roughly speaking. So tell me how many goals per minutes on the pitch is Hanson's strike rate[/p][/quote]He scored 2 league goals for City...Oxford and Morcambe. Only other goal was in Cup vs Wombles. If you include the cup goal though you need to include cup appearances which makes 3 goals in 27 appearances. SO I repeat; "not for City he hasn't". Still don't get where you and Waynus believe he just hasn't had any chances. Perhaps if you went to more games you would realise he has had plenty of opportunities and just hasn't done enough to earn more time on the pitch.[/p][/quote]Maybe if you went to more games you would see Hannah was the one on the bench sent on in last five minutes when it had all gone wrong. In fact do you actually know who Ross is or what he looks like? You do sound a very pug headed sort if person who only see's what he wants. To say he had 27 games is a joke, especially when 20 of them were 20 minutes or less. All I wanted to do was get the knockers off his back and give the lad a fair hearing, some people like you are hypocrites, rising to anyone who knocks a player you rate but stand there dissing the abilities of others youtself macca1969

5:19pm Fri 11 Jan 13

mickyoi says...

1955bantam wrote:
Totally agree with BantamBelle and Birky_Neil.
PP said Hannah was part of his plans. Any idea what plans?
His plans to offload him and get andy Gray in ha ha
[quote][p][bold]1955bantam[/bold] wrote: Totally agree with BantamBelle and Birky_Neil. PP said Hannah was part of his plans. Any idea what plans?[/p][/quote]His plans to offload him and get andy Gray in ha ha mickyoi

5:23pm Fri 11 Jan 13

mickyoi says...

macca1969 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
He only ever started four times for city in the league. Twice being subbed and once injured. He has played less than six hours football for city giving him a goal ratio of one goal every two hours of football. That is one goal every game and half roughly speaking. So tell me how many goals per minutes on the pitch is Hanson's strike rate
He scored 2 league goals for City...Oxford and Morcambe. Only other goal was in Cup vs Wombles. If you include the cup goal though you need to include cup appearances which makes 3 goals in 27 appearances. SO I repeat; "not for City he hasn't".

Still don't get where you and Waynus believe he just hasn't had any chances. Perhaps if you went to more games you would realise he has had plenty of opportunities and just hasn't done enough to earn more time on the pitch.
Your a right Rodney trotter you aren't you. So when you count his appearances six minutes here or ten minutes there is a full game and therefore a chance. He played less than six hours football for city whether he had 27 matches ir not. He was only on the pitch for less than four games in total. If you want to put the two jpt games in alongside the ten minutes in the capitol one then he still played only six full games in terms of minutes on the pitch giving him 3 goals in nine hours of football,which is still a better strike rate than Hanson
Putting Hanson to one side do you think Hannah's 3 goals in 9 hours is enough for us to give him more game time? I'm not being argumentative I just would like to know what you think.
[quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: He only ever started four times for city in the league. Twice being subbed and once injured. He has played less than six hours football for city giving him a goal ratio of one goal every two hours of football. That is one goal every game and half roughly speaking. So tell me how many goals per minutes on the pitch is Hanson's strike rate[/p][/quote]He scored 2 league goals for City...Oxford and Morcambe. Only other goal was in Cup vs Wombles. If you include the cup goal though you need to include cup appearances which makes 3 goals in 27 appearances. SO I repeat; "not for City he hasn't". Still don't get where you and Waynus believe he just hasn't had any chances. Perhaps if you went to more games you would realise he has had plenty of opportunities and just hasn't done enough to earn more time on the pitch.[/p][/quote]Your a right Rodney trotter you aren't you. So when you count his appearances six minutes here or ten minutes there is a full game and therefore a chance. He played less than six hours football for city whether he had 27 matches ir not. He was only on the pitch for less than four games in total. If you want to put the two jpt games in alongside the ten minutes in the capitol one then he still played only six full games in terms of minutes on the pitch giving him 3 goals in nine hours of football,which is still a better strike rate than Hanson[/p][/quote]Putting Hanson to one side do you think Hannah's 3 goals in 9 hours is enough for us to give him more game time? I'm not being argumentative I just would like to know what you think. mickyoi

5:24pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Waynus1971 says...

KnightMcCall wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
macca1969 wrote: If Ross gets Grimsby promoted then scores plenty next season in league two what will that prove? Nothing only his face didn't fit here or should I say his style if play. Its not that he isn't good enough only that we as a club don't play the style of football suited to Ross. I'm hoping they get promoted and Ross wins the league two golden boot next season to shut some of you lot up. . To say he is rubbish at this level just because he doesn't suit or fit into our system is a disgrace. Good luck Ross I hope you get to shut a few up on here but not at our expense I hope
We can all have an opinion macca. If you think Hannah is good enough for league 2 then fair enough. It seems that some of us believe he has limitations and the concept of him banging in lots of goals in this division is highly unlikely. No point arguing about the future. You think he will score lots of goals in league football in future...noted. I dont. lets see what happens.BTW good luck to Ross...he deserves success.
I'm all for opinions and I'm not saying he will score loads just he never got the chance. He is a goalscorer and offers little else whereas parky prefers a work horse who scores very little, which is fine as the system with wells getting the goals is working. Only thing I'm knocking is why people have to knock the guy when he has less than six hours football to prove his worth. Why do people on here think the conference is so poor. How many league teams cone straight back? Why do most of the promoted teams always seem to fare well and in recent years finish higher than our team in the league if the gulf is so massive. He will score goals in league two with Grimsby if they are promoted because they will play to his strengths. Parkinson as only ever praised the lad and his attitude
Macca. Ho much time do you think PP should allow a player to prove his worth. PP knows more than we do; sees him every day in training, has seen him play friendlies and reserve fixtures i.e. the man who makes the decisions has seen vastly more than six hours. As a result of what he has seen; he does not think it is worth risking his own job by giving Ross more 1st team action than he has had. With Wells on 16 for the season Connell on 8 and Hanson on 7; where exactly do you think the opportunity to play Hannah has been? If our top 3 scorers continue in the same vein for the rest of the season then they will have a similar haul between them to a certain Mills, Blake and Beagrie.
But that is not what I am saying. What gets me is that people write him off at this level dissing his abilities. All I am saying is he will score goals at this level in a team set up to play to his strength. Parky has only ever praised the lad has he not, but obviously he sets the team up to play in a style that does not suit Ross, as such he is correct to move him on. I am not disputing or questioning his decision, just why some fans have to judge him when we haven't seen him in action that much. If you are good enough in the conference your good enough in league two.
You're wasting your breath on these lot Bro. Either they are EXTREMELY thick or are arguing for the sake of it. How many times do you have to spell it out to some of these posters. YOU havent said Hannah 'is good enough' YOU haven't said PP is wrong to pick Hanson, Wells and Connell over him YOU haven't said PP is wrong to release him before giving him a chance. Why can't these people understand that you (and I) are merely saying that we don't know if he is "good enough" because he didn't get a long enough run. We're not saying he is good enough and dispute the claims by others that they KNOW he isn't good enough..! If I had a 'head-shake' or 'roll-eyes' smiley, I would use it right now...!
I for one am not disputing that you are not saying that Hannah is a worldbeater. The opinion that he isn't good enough is a response to your assertion that he hasn't had a chance to prove it. 27 appearances in total; even for 10 or 15 minutes a lot of the time is more than enough to show something and a lot more opportunity than many others get. It's also enough to form an opinion. By saying you think he should have had more opportunities then YOU ARE expressing an opinion that he was worthy of more opportunities; or are you just arguing for the sake of it? Seriously Waynus; how quickly did you tell us all that Atkinson wasn't good enough for City...it didn't take 6 hours did it...
As I said earlier, I NEVER did say Atkinson wasn't good enough and challenged you to prove otherwise. I think you will shown to be WRONG!

As for "By saying you think he should have had more opportunities .....". Where did I say he should have been given enough opportunities? I said he HASN'T had enough opportunities to prove either way, but I didn't say he should have had more. These are two very different statements and I thought you were bright enough to understand that???

Wells deserves to start alongside Hanson, thus he is getting the opportunities and rightly so. Hannah hasn't been able to break up that partnership, because Wells' form has been that good, hence he hasn't had as many opportunites.

You still keep referring to his 19 appearnaces, but I asked you a question earlier in this thread. How many minutes on the pitch has Hannah actually had? It's okay saying he had 19 appearances and, (in your view - which you forgot to include), he should have had time to prove his worth. However, many of those 'appearances' were from the bench in the dying moments of games, some times in injury time...!

And don't forget, last season, when he got most of those performances, we, as a team were DIRE. But don't let that FACT deter you from making your "opinion".
[quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: If Ross gets Grimsby promoted then scores plenty next season in league two what will that prove? Nothing only his face didn't fit here or should I say his style if play. Its not that he isn't good enough only that we as a club don't play the style of football suited to Ross. I'm hoping they get promoted and Ross wins the league two golden boot next season to shut some of you lot up. . To say he is rubbish at this level just because he doesn't suit or fit into our system is a disgrace. Good luck Ross I hope you get to shut a few up on here but not at our expense I hope[/p][/quote]We can all have an opinion macca. If you think Hannah is good enough for league 2 then fair enough. It seems that some of us believe he has limitations and the concept of him banging in lots of goals in this division is highly unlikely. No point arguing about the future. You think he will score lots of goals in league football in future...noted. I dont. lets see what happens.BTW good luck to Ross...he deserves success.[/p][/quote]I'm all for opinions and I'm not saying he will score loads just he never got the chance. He is a goalscorer and offers little else whereas parky prefers a work horse who scores very little, which is fine as the system with wells getting the goals is working. Only thing I'm knocking is why people have to knock the guy when he has less than six hours football to prove his worth. Why do people on here think the conference is so poor. How many league teams cone straight back? Why do most of the promoted teams always seem to fare well and in recent years finish higher than our team in the league if the gulf is so massive. He will score goals in league two with Grimsby if they are promoted because they will play to his strengths. Parkinson as only ever praised the lad and his attitude[/p][/quote]Macca. Ho much time do you think PP should allow a player to prove his worth. PP knows more than we do; sees him every day in training, has seen him play friendlies and reserve fixtures i.e. the man who makes the decisions has seen vastly more than six hours. As a result of what he has seen; he does not think it is worth risking his own job by giving Ross more 1st team action than he has had. With Wells on 16 for the season Connell on 8 and Hanson on 7; where exactly do you think the opportunity to play Hannah has been? If our top 3 scorers continue in the same vein for the rest of the season then they will have a similar haul between them to a certain Mills, Blake and Beagrie.[/p][/quote]But that is not what I am saying. What gets me is that people write him off at this level dissing his abilities. All I am saying is he will score goals at this level in a team set up to play to his strength. Parky has only ever praised the lad has he not, but obviously he sets the team up to play in a style that does not suit Ross, as such he is correct to move him on. I am not disputing or questioning his decision, just why some fans have to judge him when we haven't seen him in action that much. If you are good enough in the conference your good enough in league two.[/p][/quote]You're wasting your breath on these lot Bro. Either they are EXTREMELY thick or are arguing for the sake of it. How many times do you have to spell it out to some of these posters. YOU havent said Hannah 'is good enough' YOU haven't said PP is wrong to pick Hanson, Wells and Connell over him YOU haven't said PP is wrong to release him before giving him a chance. Why can't these people understand that you (and I) are merely saying that we don't know if he is "good enough" because he didn't get a long enough run. We're not saying he is good enough and dispute the claims by others that they KNOW he isn't good enough..! If I had a 'head-shake' or 'roll-eyes' smiley, I would use it right now...![/p][/quote]I for one am not disputing that you are not saying that Hannah is a worldbeater. The opinion that he isn't good enough is a response to your assertion that he hasn't had a chance to prove it. 27 appearances in total; even for 10 or 15 minutes a lot of the time is more than enough to show something and a lot more opportunity than many others get. It's also enough to form an opinion. By saying you think he should have had more opportunities then YOU ARE expressing an opinion that he was worthy of more opportunities; or are you just arguing for the sake of it? Seriously Waynus; how quickly did you tell us all that Atkinson wasn't good enough for City...it didn't take 6 hours did it...[/p][/quote]As I said earlier, I NEVER did say Atkinson wasn't good enough and challenged you to prove otherwise. I think you will shown to be WRONG! As for "By saying you think he should have had more opportunities .....". Where did I say he should have been given enough opportunities? I said he HASN'T had enough opportunities to prove either way, but I didn't say he should have had more. These are two very different statements and I thought you were bright enough to understand that??? Wells deserves to start alongside Hanson, thus he is getting the opportunities and rightly so. Hannah hasn't been able to break up that partnership, because Wells' form has been that good, hence he hasn't had as many opportunites. You still keep referring to his 19 appearnaces, but I asked you a question earlier in this thread. How many minutes on the pitch has Hannah actually had? It's okay saying he had 19 appearances and, (in your view - which you forgot to include), he should have had time to prove his worth. However, many of those 'appearances' were from the bench in the dying moments of games, some times in injury time...! And don't forget, last season, when he got most of those performances, we, as a team were DIRE. But don't let that FACT deter you from making your "opinion". Waynus1971

5:37pm Fri 11 Jan 13

mickyoi says...

Waynus1971 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
macca1969 wrote: If Ross gets Grimsby promoted then scores plenty next season in league two what will that prove? Nothing only his face didn't fit here or should I say his style if play. Its not that he isn't good enough only that we as a club don't play the style of football suited to Ross. I'm hoping they get promoted and Ross wins the league two golden boot next season to shut some of you lot up. . To say he is rubbish at this level just because he doesn't suit or fit into our system is a disgrace. Good luck Ross I hope you get to shut a few up on here but not at our expense I hope
We can all have an opinion macca. If you think Hannah is good enough for league 2 then fair enough. It seems that some of us believe he has limitations and the concept of him banging in lots of goals in this division is highly unlikely. No point arguing about the future. You think he will score lots of goals in league football in future...noted. I dont. lets see what happens.BTW good luck to Ross...he deserves success.
I'm all for opinions and I'm not saying he will score loads just he never got the chance. He is a goalscorer and offers little else whereas parky prefers a work horse who scores very little, which is fine as the system with wells getting the goals is working. Only thing I'm knocking is why people have to knock the guy when he has less than six hours football to prove his worth. Why do people on here think the conference is so poor. How many league teams cone straight back? Why do most of the promoted teams always seem to fare well and in recent years finish higher than our team in the league if the gulf is so massive. He will score goals in league two with Grimsby if they are promoted because they will play to his strengths. Parkinson as only ever praised the lad and his attitude
Macca. Ho much time do you think PP should allow a player to prove his worth. PP knows more than we do; sees him every day in training, has seen him play friendlies and reserve fixtures i.e. the man who makes the decisions has seen vastly more than six hours. As a result of what he has seen; he does not think it is worth risking his own job by giving Ross more 1st team action than he has had. With Wells on 16 for the season Connell on 8 and Hanson on 7; where exactly do you think the opportunity to play Hannah has been? If our top 3 scorers continue in the same vein for the rest of the season then they will have a similar haul between them to a certain Mills, Blake and Beagrie.
But that is not what I am saying. What gets me is that people write him off at this level dissing his abilities. All I am saying is he will score goals at this level in a team set up to play to his strength. Parky has only ever praised the lad has he not, but obviously he sets the team up to play in a style that does not suit Ross, as such he is correct to move him on. I am not disputing or questioning his decision, just why some fans have to judge him when we haven't seen him in action that much. If you are good enough in the conference your good enough in league two.
You're wasting your breath on these lot Bro. Either they are EXTREMELY thick or are arguing for the sake of it. How many times do you have to spell it out to some of these posters. YOU havent said Hannah 'is good enough' YOU haven't said PP is wrong to pick Hanson, Wells and Connell over him YOU haven't said PP is wrong to release him before giving him a chance. Why can't these people understand that you (and I) are merely saying that we don't know if he is "good enough" because he didn't get a long enough run. We're not saying he is good enough and dispute the claims by others that they KNOW he isn't good enough..! If I had a 'head-shake' or 'roll-eyes' smiley, I would use it right now...!
I for one am not disputing that you are not saying that Hannah is a worldbeater. The opinion that he isn't good enough is a response to your assertion that he hasn't had a chance to prove it. 27 appearances in total; even for 10 or 15 minutes a lot of the time is more than enough to show something and a lot more opportunity than many others get. It's also enough to form an opinion. By saying you think he should have had more opportunities then YOU ARE expressing an opinion that he was worthy of more opportunities; or are you just arguing for the sake of it? Seriously Waynus; how quickly did you tell us all that Atkinson wasn't good enough for City...it didn't take 6 hours did it...
As I said earlier, I NEVER did say Atkinson wasn't good enough and challenged you to prove otherwise. I think you will shown to be WRONG!

As for "By saying you think he should have had more opportunities .....". Where did I say he should have been given enough opportunities? I said he HASN'T had enough opportunities to prove either way, but I didn't say he should have had more. These are two very different statements and I thought you were bright enough to understand that???

Wells deserves to start alongside Hanson, thus he is getting the opportunities and rightly so. Hannah hasn't been able to break up that partnership, because Wells' form has been that good, hence he hasn't had as many opportunites.

You still keep referring to his 19 appearnaces, but I asked you a question earlier in this thread. How many minutes on the pitch has Hannah actually had? It's okay saying he had 19 appearances and, (in your view - which you forgot to include), he should have had time to prove his worth. However, many of those 'appearances' were from the bench in the dying moments of games, some times in injury time...!

And don't forget, last season, when he got most of those performances, we, as a team were DIRE. But don't let that FACT deter you from making your "opinion".
But last season when we were dire wells broke into the team by coming off the bench and scoring goals and then making himself a first team fixture. Why didn't Hannah do the same?Because IMO he wasn't good enough. Anyway he's gone now and we should look to the future.
[quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: If Ross gets Grimsby promoted then scores plenty next season in league two what will that prove? Nothing only his face didn't fit here or should I say his style if play. Its not that he isn't good enough only that we as a club don't play the style of football suited to Ross. I'm hoping they get promoted and Ross wins the league two golden boot next season to shut some of you lot up. . To say he is rubbish at this level just because he doesn't suit or fit into our system is a disgrace. Good luck Ross I hope you get to shut a few up on here but not at our expense I hope[/p][/quote]We can all have an opinion macca. If you think Hannah is good enough for league 2 then fair enough. It seems that some of us believe he has limitations and the concept of him banging in lots of goals in this division is highly unlikely. No point arguing about the future. You think he will score lots of goals in league football in future...noted. I dont. lets see what happens.BTW good luck to Ross...he deserves success.[/p][/quote]I'm all for opinions and I'm not saying he will score loads just he never got the chance. He is a goalscorer and offers little else whereas parky prefers a work horse who scores very little, which is fine as the system with wells getting the goals is working. Only thing I'm knocking is why people have to knock the guy when he has less than six hours football to prove his worth. Why do people on here think the conference is so poor. How many league teams cone straight back? Why do most of the promoted teams always seem to fare well and in recent years finish higher than our team in the league if the gulf is so massive. He will score goals in league two with Grimsby if they are promoted because they will play to his strengths. Parkinson as only ever praised the lad and his attitude[/p][/quote]Macca. Ho much time do you think PP should allow a player to prove his worth. PP knows more than we do; sees him every day in training, has seen him play friendlies and reserve fixtures i.e. the man who makes the decisions has seen vastly more than six hours. As a result of what he has seen; he does not think it is worth risking his own job by giving Ross more 1st team action than he has had. With Wells on 16 for the season Connell on 8 and Hanson on 7; where exactly do you think the opportunity to play Hannah has been? If our top 3 scorers continue in the same vein for the rest of the season then they will have a similar haul between them to a certain Mills, Blake and Beagrie.[/p][/quote]But that is not what I am saying. What gets me is that people write him off at this level dissing his abilities. All I am saying is he will score goals at this level in a team set up to play to his strength. Parky has only ever praised the lad has he not, but obviously he sets the team up to play in a style that does not suit Ross, as such he is correct to move him on. I am not disputing or questioning his decision, just why some fans have to judge him when we haven't seen him in action that much. If you are good enough in the conference your good enough in league two.[/p][/quote]You're wasting your breath on these lot Bro. Either they are EXTREMELY thick or are arguing for the sake of it. How many times do you have to spell it out to some of these posters. YOU havent said Hannah 'is good enough' YOU haven't said PP is wrong to pick Hanson, Wells and Connell over him YOU haven't said PP is wrong to release him before giving him a chance. Why can't these people understand that you (and I) are merely saying that we don't know if he is "good enough" because he didn't get a long enough run. We're not saying he is good enough and dispute the claims by others that they KNOW he isn't good enough..! If I had a 'head-shake' or 'roll-eyes' smiley, I would use it right now...![/p][/quote]I for one am not disputing that you are not saying that Hannah is a worldbeater. The opinion that he isn't good enough is a response to your assertion that he hasn't had a chance to prove it. 27 appearances in total; even for 10 or 15 minutes a lot of the time is more than enough to show something and a lot more opportunity than many others get. It's also enough to form an opinion. By saying you think he should have had more opportunities then YOU ARE expressing an opinion that he was worthy of more opportunities; or are you just arguing for the sake of it? Seriously Waynus; how quickly did you tell us all that Atkinson wasn't good enough for City...it didn't take 6 hours did it...[/p][/quote]As I said earlier, I NEVER did say Atkinson wasn't good enough and challenged you to prove otherwise. I think you will shown to be WRONG! As for "By saying you think he should have had more opportunities .....". Where did I say he should have been given enough opportunities? I said he HASN'T had enough opportunities to prove either way, but I didn't say he should have had more. These are two very different statements and I thought you were bright enough to understand that??? Wells deserves to start alongside Hanson, thus he is getting the opportunities and rightly so. Hannah hasn't been able to break up that partnership, because Wells' form has been that good, hence he hasn't had as many opportunites. You still keep referring to his 19 appearnaces, but I asked you a question earlier in this thread. How many minutes on the pitch has Hannah actually had? It's okay saying he had 19 appearances and, (in your view - which you forgot to include), he should have had time to prove his worth. However, many of those 'appearances' were from the bench in the dying moments of games, some times in injury time...! And don't forget, last season, when he got most of those performances, we, as a team were DIRE. But don't let that FACT deter you from making your "opinion".[/p][/quote]But last season when we were dire wells broke into the team by coming off the bench and scoring goals and then making himself a first team fixture. Why didn't Hannah do the same?Because IMO he wasn't good enough. Anyway he's gone now and we should look to the future. mickyoi

5:46pm Fri 11 Jan 13

macca1969 says...

mickyoi wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
He only ever started four times for city in the league. Twice being subbed and once injured. He has played less than six hours football for city giving him a goal ratio of one goal every two hours of football. That is one goal every game and half roughly speaking. So tell me how many goals per minutes on the pitch is Hanson's strike rate
He scored 2 league goals for City...Oxford and Morcambe. Only other goal was in Cup vs Wombles. If you include the cup goal though you need to include cup appearances which makes 3 goals in 27 appearances. SO I repeat; "not for City he hasn't".

Still don't get where you and Waynus believe he just hasn't had any chances. Perhaps if you went to more games you would realise he has had plenty of opportunities and just hasn't done enough to earn more time on the pitch.
Your a right Rodney trotter you aren't you. So when you count his appearances six minutes here or ten minutes there is a full game and therefore a chance. He played less than six hours football for city whether he had 27 matches ir not. He was only on the pitch for less than four games in total. If you want to put the two jpt games in alongside the ten minutes in the capitol one then he still played only six full games in terms of minutes on the pitch giving him 3 goals in nine hours of football,which is still a better strike rate than Hanson
Putting Hanson to one side do you think Hannah's 3 goals in 9 hours is enough for us to give him more game time? I'm not being argumentative I just would like to know what you think.
No I don't think of you being argumentative, for the record it isn't a bad return for minutes on the pitch. But and its a big but, the way we as a team play we need more than goals from our strikers. Hanson who is a poor finisher to be fair makes up for that with unbelievable work rate, his physical presence unsettles defenders and tires them. Wells has electric pace which defenders hate and we know he can finish well, also wells works hard harrying the defence. It is a good system which has served us well and I agree with parky that this is our strongest. This season we have added Connell and Thompson who both in fairness offer more than Hannah. So unless we change our style if play to suit Ross it is best to move him on, but my argument was only we have never really been able to see a fully fit Hannah long enough with a few games under his belt to make a fair assessment. Unless like KMC we all watch the reserves every game to evaluate him
[quote][p][bold]mickyoi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: He only ever started four times for city in the league. Twice being subbed and once injured. He has played less than six hours football for city giving him a goal ratio of one goal every two hours of football. That is one goal every game and half roughly speaking. So tell me how many goals per minutes on the pitch is Hanson's strike rate[/p][/quote]He scored 2 league goals for City...Oxford and Morcambe. Only other goal was in Cup vs Wombles. If you include the cup goal though you need to include cup appearances which makes 3 goals in 27 appearances. SO I repeat; "not for City he hasn't". Still don't get where you and Waynus believe he just hasn't had any chances. Perhaps if you went to more games you would realise he has had plenty of opportunities and just hasn't done enough to earn more time on the pitch.[/p][/quote]Your a right Rodney trotter you aren't you. So when you count his appearances six minutes here or ten minutes there is a full game and therefore a chance. He played less than six hours football for city whether he had 27 matches ir not. He was only on the pitch for less than four games in total. If you want to put the two jpt games in alongside the ten minutes in the capitol one then he still played only six full games in terms of minutes on the pitch giving him 3 goals in nine hours of football,which is still a better strike rate than Hanson[/p][/quote]Putting Hanson to one side do you think Hannah's 3 goals in 9 hours is enough for us to give him more game time? I'm not being argumentative I just would like to know what you think.[/p][/quote]No I don't think of you being argumentative, for the record it isn't a bad return for minutes on the pitch. But and its a big but, the way we as a team play we need more than goals from our strikers. Hanson who is a poor finisher to be fair makes up for that with unbelievable work rate, his physical presence unsettles defenders and tires them. Wells has electric pace which defenders hate and we know he can finish well, also wells works hard harrying the defence. It is a good system which has served us well and I agree with parky that this is our strongest. This season we have added Connell and Thompson who both in fairness offer more than Hannah. So unless we change our style if play to suit Ross it is best to move him on, but my argument was only we have never really been able to see a fully fit Hannah long enough with a few games under his belt to make a fair assessment. Unless like KMC we all watch the reserves every game to evaluate him macca1969

6:35pm Fri 11 Jan 13

1955bantam says...

Perhaps we'll reassess next season when we play Grimsby next season.
Perhaps we'll reassess next season when we play Grimsby next season. 1955bantam

6:52pm Fri 11 Jan 13

KnightMcCall says...

macca1969 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
He only ever started four times for city in the league. Twice being subbed and once injured. He has played less than six hours football for city giving him a goal ratio of one goal every two hours of football. That is one goal every game and half roughly speaking. So tell me how many goals per minutes on the pitch is Hanson's strike rate
He scored 2 league goals for City...Oxford and Morcambe. Only other goal was in Cup vs Wombles. If you include the cup goal though you need to include cup appearances which makes 3 goals in 27 appearances. SO I repeat; "not for City he hasn't".

Still don't get where you and Waynus believe he just hasn't had any chances. Perhaps if you went to more games you would realise he has had plenty of opportunities and just hasn't done enough to earn more time on the pitch.
Maybe if you went to more games you would see Hannah was the one on the bench sent on in last five minutes when it had all gone wrong. In fact do you actually know who Ross is or what he looks like? You do sound a very pug headed sort if person who only see's what he wants. To say he had 27 games is a joke, especially when 20 of them were 20 minutes or less. All I wanted to do was get the knockers off his back and give the lad a fair hearing, some people like you are hypocrites, rising to anyone who knocks a player you rate but stand there dissing the abilities of others youtself
So I see what I want yet you change my word appearances for games? I didn't say he had 27 games I said appearances and I know exactly what that meant for Ross. I didn't/don't rate him as a striker for my club in League 2; why is that so hard for you to grasp. I am not alone in this opinion. If you want me to see what you see then you had better lend me your eyes. What exactly is hypocritical about that?

How come you can come on here and have a go at me for voicing an opinion; are you not doing EXACTLY the same thing at me? OK, Hannah is the greatest striker that City have ever had; i can't believe he didn't play every week; we would be top of the league by now if he had...(happy)
[quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: He only ever started four times for city in the league. Twice being subbed and once injured. He has played less than six hours football for city giving him a goal ratio of one goal every two hours of football. That is one goal every game and half roughly speaking. So tell me how many goals per minutes on the pitch is Hanson's strike rate[/p][/quote]He scored 2 league goals for City...Oxford and Morcambe. Only other goal was in Cup vs Wombles. If you include the cup goal though you need to include cup appearances which makes 3 goals in 27 appearances. SO I repeat; "not for City he hasn't". Still don't get where you and Waynus believe he just hasn't had any chances. Perhaps if you went to more games you would realise he has had plenty of opportunities and just hasn't done enough to earn more time on the pitch.[/p][/quote]Maybe if you went to more games you would see Hannah was the one on the bench sent on in last five minutes when it had all gone wrong. In fact do you actually know who Ross is or what he looks like? You do sound a very pug headed sort if person who only see's what he wants. To say he had 27 games is a joke, especially when 20 of them were 20 minutes or less. All I wanted to do was get the knockers off his back and give the lad a fair hearing, some people like you are hypocrites, rising to anyone who knocks a player you rate but stand there dissing the abilities of others youtself[/p][/quote]So I see what I want yet you change my word appearances for games? I didn't say he had 27 games I said appearances and I know exactly what that meant for Ross. I didn't/don't rate him as a striker for my club in League 2; why is that so hard for you to grasp. I am not alone in this opinion. If you want me to see what you see then you had better lend me your eyes. What exactly is hypocritical about that? How come you can come on here and have a go at me for voicing an opinion; are you not doing EXACTLY the same thing at me? OK, Hannah is the greatest striker that City have ever had; i can't believe he didn't play every week; we would be top of the league by now if he had...(happy) KnightMcCall

7:00pm Fri 11 Jan 13

KnightMcCall says...

mickyoi wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
macca1969 wrote: If Ross gets Grimsby promoted then scores plenty next season in league two what will that prove? Nothing only his face didn't fit here or should I say his style if play. Its not that he isn't good enough only that we as a club don't play the style of football suited to Ross. I'm hoping they get promoted and Ross wins the league two golden boot next season to shut some of you lot up. . To say he is rubbish at this level just because he doesn't suit or fit into our system is a disgrace. Good luck Ross I hope you get to shut a few up on here but not at our expense I hope
We can all have an opinion macca. If you think Hannah is good enough for league 2 then fair enough. It seems that some of us believe he has limitations and the concept of him banging in lots of goals in this division is highly unlikely. No point arguing about the future. You think he will score lots of goals in league football in future...noted. I dont. lets see what happens.BTW good luck to Ross...he deserves success.
I'm all for opinions and I'm not saying he will score loads just he never got the chance. He is a goalscorer and offers little else whereas parky prefers a work horse who scores very little, which is fine as the system with wells getting the goals is working. Only thing I'm knocking is why people have to knock the guy when he has less than six hours football to prove his worth. Why do people on here think the conference is so poor. How many league teams cone straight back? Why do most of the promoted teams always seem to fare well and in recent years finish higher than our team in the league if the gulf is so massive. He will score goals in league two with Grimsby if they are promoted because they will play to his strengths. Parkinson as only ever praised the lad and his attitude
Macca. Ho much time do you think PP should allow a player to prove his worth. PP knows more than we do; sees him every day in training, has seen him play friendlies and reserve fixtures i.e. the man who makes the decisions has seen vastly more than six hours. As a result of what he has seen; he does not think it is worth risking his own job by giving Ross more 1st team action than he has had. With Wells on 16 for the season Connell on 8 and Hanson on 7; where exactly do you think the opportunity to play Hannah has been? If our top 3 scorers continue in the same vein for the rest of the season then they will have a similar haul between them to a certain Mills, Blake and Beagrie.
But that is not what I am saying. What gets me is that people write him off at this level dissing his abilities. All I am saying is he will score goals at this level in a team set up to play to his strength. Parky has only ever praised the lad has he not, but obviously he sets the team up to play in a style that does not suit Ross, as such he is correct to move him on. I am not disputing or questioning his decision, just why some fans have to judge him when we haven't seen him in action that much. If you are good enough in the conference your good enough in league two.
You're wasting your breath on these lot Bro. Either they are EXTREMELY thick or are arguing for the sake of it. How many times do you have to spell it out to some of these posters. YOU havent said Hannah 'is good enough' YOU haven't said PP is wrong to pick Hanson, Wells and Connell over him YOU haven't said PP is wrong to release him before giving him a chance. Why can't these people understand that you (and I) are merely saying that we don't know if he is "good enough" because he didn't get a long enough run. We're not saying he is good enough and dispute the claims by others that they KNOW he isn't good enough..! If I had a 'head-shake' or 'roll-eyes' smiley, I would use it right now...!
I for one am not disputing that you are not saying that Hannah is a worldbeater. The opinion that he isn't good enough is a response to your assertion that he hasn't had a chance to prove it. 27 appearances in total; even for 10 or 15 minutes a lot of the time is more than enough to show something and a lot more opportunity than many others get. It's also enough to form an opinion. By saying you think he should have had more opportunities then YOU ARE expressing an opinion that he was worthy of more opportunities; or are you just arguing for the sake of it? Seriously Waynus; how quickly did you tell us all that Atkinson wasn't good enough for City...it didn't take 6 hours did it...
As I said earlier, I NEVER did say Atkinson wasn't good enough and challenged you to prove otherwise. I think you will shown to be WRONG!

As for "By saying you think he should have had more opportunities .....". Where did I say he should have been given enough opportunities? I said he HASN'T had enough opportunities to prove either way, but I didn't say he should have had more. These are two very different statements and I thought you were bright enough to understand that???

Wells deserves to start alongside Hanson, thus he is getting the opportunities and rightly so. Hannah hasn't been able to break up that partnership, because Wells' form has been that good, hence he hasn't had as many opportunites.

You still keep referring to his 19 appearnaces, but I asked you a question earlier in this thread. How many minutes on the pitch has Hannah actually had? It's okay saying he had 19 appearances and, (in your view - which you forgot to include), he should have had time to prove his worth. However, many of those 'appearances' were from the bench in the dying moments of games, some times in injury time...!

And don't forget, last season, when he got most of those performances, we, as a team were DIRE. But don't let that FACT deter you from making your "opinion".
But last season when we were dire wells broke into the team by coming off the bench and scoring goals and then making himself a first team fixture. Why didn't Hannah do the same?Because IMO he wasn't good enough. Anyway he's gone now and we should look to the future.
Are you for real? I'm not supposed to say I don't think he was good enough but you can. You did mention the word hypocrite didn't you? You do understand the meaning of hypocrisy don't you?
[quote][p][bold]mickyoi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: If Ross gets Grimsby promoted then scores plenty next season in league two what will that prove? Nothing only his face didn't fit here or should I say his style if play. Its not that he isn't good enough only that we as a club don't play the style of football suited to Ross. I'm hoping they get promoted and Ross wins the league two golden boot next season to shut some of you lot up. . To say he is rubbish at this level just because he doesn't suit or fit into our system is a disgrace. Good luck Ross I hope you get to shut a few up on here but not at our expense I hope[/p][/quote]We can all have an opinion macca. If you think Hannah is good enough for league 2 then fair enough. It seems that some of us believe he has limitations and the concept of him banging in lots of goals in this division is highly unlikely. No point arguing about the future. You think he will score lots of goals in league football in future...noted. I dont. lets see what happens.BTW good luck to Ross...he deserves success.[/p][/quote]I'm all for opinions and I'm not saying he will score loads just he never got the chance. He is a goalscorer and offers little else whereas parky prefers a work horse who scores very little, which is fine as the system with wells getting the goals is working. Only thing I'm knocking is why people have to knock the guy when he has less than six hours football to prove his worth. Why do people on here think the conference is so poor. How many league teams cone straight back? Why do most of the promoted teams always seem to fare well and in recent years finish higher than our team in the league if the gulf is so massive. He will score goals in league two with Grimsby if they are promoted because they will play to his strengths. Parkinson as only ever praised the lad and his attitude[/p][/quote]Macca. Ho much time do you think PP should allow a player to prove his worth. PP knows more than we do; sees him every day in training, has seen him play friendlies and reserve fixtures i.e. the man who makes the decisions has seen vastly more than six hours. As a result of what he has seen; he does not think it is worth risking his own job by giving Ross more 1st team action than he has had. With Wells on 16 for the season Connell on 8 and Hanson on 7; where exactly do you think the opportunity to play Hannah has been? If our top 3 scorers continue in the same vein for the rest of the season then they will have a similar haul between them to a certain Mills, Blake and Beagrie.[/p][/quote]But that is not what I am saying. What gets me is that people write him off at this level dissing his abilities. All I am saying is he will score goals at this level in a team set up to play to his strength. Parky has only ever praised the lad has he not, but obviously he sets the team up to play in a style that does not suit Ross, as such he is correct to move him on. I am not disputing or questioning his decision, just why some fans have to judge him when we haven't seen him in action that much. If you are good enough in the conference your good enough in league two.[/p][/quote]You're wasting your breath on these lot Bro. Either they are EXTREMELY thick or are arguing for the sake of it. How many times do you have to spell it out to some of these posters. YOU havent said Hannah 'is good enough' YOU haven't said PP is wrong to pick Hanson, Wells and Connell over him YOU haven't said PP is wrong to release him before giving him a chance. Why can't these people understand that you (and I) are merely saying that we don't know if he is "good enough" because he didn't get a long enough run. We're not saying he is good enough and dispute the claims by others that they KNOW he isn't good enough..! If I had a 'head-shake' or 'roll-eyes' smiley, I would use it right now...![/p][/quote]I for one am not disputing that you are not saying that Hannah is a worldbeater. The opinion that he isn't good enough is a response to your assertion that he hasn't had a chance to prove it. 27 appearances in total; even for 10 or 15 minutes a lot of the time is more than enough to show something and a lot more opportunity than many others get. It's also enough to form an opinion. By saying you think he should have had more opportunities then YOU ARE expressing an opinion that he was worthy of more opportunities; or are you just arguing for the sake of it? Seriously Waynus; how quickly did you tell us all that Atkinson wasn't good enough for City...it didn't take 6 hours did it...[/p][/quote]As I said earlier, I NEVER did say Atkinson wasn't good enough and challenged you to prove otherwise. I think you will shown to be WRONG! As for "By saying you think he should have had more opportunities .....". Where did I say he should have been given enough opportunities? I said he HASN'T had enough opportunities to prove either way, but I didn't say he should have had more. These are two very different statements and I thought you were bright enough to understand that??? Wells deserves to start alongside Hanson, thus he is getting the opportunities and rightly so. Hannah hasn't been able to break up that partnership, because Wells' form has been that good, hence he hasn't had as many opportunites. You still keep referring to his 19 appearnaces, but I asked you a question earlier in this thread. How many minutes on the pitch has Hannah actually had? It's okay saying he had 19 appearances and, (in your view - which you forgot to include), he should have had time to prove his worth. However, many of those 'appearances' were from the bench in the dying moments of games, some times in injury time...! And don't forget, last season, when he got most of those performances, we, as a team were DIRE. But don't let that FACT deter you from making your "opinion".[/p][/quote]But last season when we were dire wells broke into the team by coming off the bench and scoring goals and then making himself a first team fixture. Why didn't Hannah do the same?Because IMO he wasn't good enough. Anyway he's gone now and we should look to the future.[/p][/quote]Are you for real? I'm not supposed to say I don't think he was good enough but you can. You did mention the word hypocrite didn't you? You do understand the meaning of hypocrisy don't you? KnightMcCall

9:18pm Fri 11 Jan 13

macca1969 says...

KnightMcCall wrote:
mickyoi wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
macca1969 wrote: If Ross gets Grimsby promoted then scores plenty next season in league two what will that prove? Nothing only his face didn't fit here or should I say his style if play. Its not that he isn't good enough only that we as a club don't play the style of football suited to Ross. I'm hoping they get promoted and Ross wins the league two golden boot next season to shut some of you lot up. . To say he is rubbish at this level just because he doesn't suit or fit into our system is a disgrace. Good luck Ross I hope you get to shut a few up on here but not at our expense I hope
We can all have an opinion macca. If you think Hannah is good enough for league 2 then fair enough. It seems that some of us believe he has limitations and the concept of him banging in lots of goals in this division is highly unlikely. No point arguing about the future. You think he will score lots of goals in league football in future...noted. I dont. lets see what happens.BTW good luck to Ross...he deserves success.
I'm all for opinions and I'm not saying he will score loads just he never got the chance. He is a goalscorer and offers little else whereas parky prefers a work horse who scores very little, which is fine as the system with wells getting the goals is working. Only thing I'm knocking is why people have to knock the guy when he has less than six hours football to prove his worth. Why do people on here think the conference is so poor. How many league teams cone straight back? Why do most of the promoted teams always seem to fare well and in recent years finish higher than our team in the league if the gulf is so massive. He will score goals in league two with Grimsby if they are promoted because they will play to his strengths. Parkinson as only ever praised the lad and his attitude
Macca. Ho much time do you think PP should allow a player to prove his worth. PP knows more than we do; sees him every day in training, has seen him play friendlies and reserve fixtures i.e. the man who makes the decisions has seen vastly more than six hours. As a result of what he has seen; he does not think it is worth risking his own job by giving Ross more 1st team action than he has had. With Wells on 16 for the season Connell on 8 and Hanson on 7; where exactly do you think the opportunity to play Hannah has been? If our top 3 scorers continue in the same vein for the rest of the season then they will have a similar haul between them to a certain Mills, Blake and Beagrie.
But that is not what I am saying. What gets me is that people write him off at this level dissing his abilities. All I am saying is he will score goals at this level in a team set up to play to his strength. Parky has only ever praised the lad has he not, but obviously he sets the team up to play in a style that does not suit Ross, as such he is correct to move him on. I am not disputing or questioning his decision, just why some fans have to judge him when we haven't seen him in action that much. If you are good enough in the conference your good enough in league two.
You're wasting your breath on these lot Bro. Either they are EXTREMELY thick or are arguing for the sake of it. How many times do you have to spell it out to some of these posters. YOU havent said Hannah 'is good enough' YOU haven't said PP is wrong to pick Hanson, Wells and Connell over him YOU haven't said PP is wrong to release him before giving him a chance. Why can't these people understand that you (and I) are merely saying that we don't know if he is "good enough" because he didn't get a long enough run. We're not saying he is good enough and dispute the claims by others that they KNOW he isn't good enough..! If I had a 'head-shake' or 'roll-eyes' smiley, I would use it right now...!
I for one am not disputing that you are not saying that Hannah is a worldbeater. The opinion that he isn't good enough is a response to your assertion that he hasn't had a chance to prove it. 27 appearances in total; even for 10 or 15 minutes a lot of the time is more than enough to show something and a lot more opportunity than many others get. It's also enough to form an opinion. By saying you think he should have had more opportunities then YOU ARE expressing an opinion that he was worthy of more opportunities; or are you just arguing for the sake of it? Seriously Waynus; how quickly did you tell us all that Atkinson wasn't good enough for City...it didn't take 6 hours did it...
As I said earlier, I NEVER did say Atkinson wasn't good enough and challenged you to prove otherwise. I think you will shown to be WRONG!

As for "By saying you think he should have had more opportunities .....". Where did I say he should have been given enough opportunities? I said he HASN'T had enough opportunities to prove either way, but I didn't say he should have had more. These are two very different statements and I thought you were bright enough to understand that???

Wells deserves to start alongside Hanson, thus he is getting the opportunities and rightly so. Hannah hasn't been able to break up that partnership, because Wells' form has been that good, hence he hasn't had as many opportunites.

You still keep referring to his 19 appearnaces, but I asked you a question earlier in this thread. How many minutes on the pitch has Hannah actually had? It's okay saying he had 19 appearances and, (in your view - which you forgot to include), he should have had time to prove his worth. However, many of those 'appearances' were from the bench in the dying moments of games, some times in injury time...!

And don't forget, last season, when he got most of those performances, we, as a team were DIRE. But don't let that FACT deter you from making your "opinion".
But last season when we were dire wells broke into the team by coming off the bench and scoring goals and then making himself a first team fixture. Why didn't Hannah do the same?Because IMO he wasn't good enough. Anyway he's gone now and we should look to the future.
Are you for real? I'm not supposed to say I don't think he was good enough but you can. You did mention the word hypocrite didn't you? You do understand the meaning of hypocrisy don't you?
Mickyoi said in his opinion he wasn't good enough not ME. Yes I do understand the word hypocrisy,do you understand the words that you read. Thought not
[quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickyoi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: If Ross gets Grimsby promoted then scores plenty next season in league two what will that prove? Nothing only his face didn't fit here or should I say his style if play. Its not that he isn't good enough only that we as a club don't play the style of football suited to Ross. I'm hoping they get promoted and Ross wins the league two golden boot next season to shut some of you lot up. . To say he is rubbish at this level just because he doesn't suit or fit into our system is a disgrace. Good luck Ross I hope you get to shut a few up on here but not at our expense I hope[/p][/quote]We can all have an opinion macca. If you think Hannah is good enough for league 2 then fair enough. It seems that some of us believe he has limitations and the concept of him banging in lots of goals in this division is highly unlikely. No point arguing about the future. You think he will score lots of goals in league football in future...noted. I dont. lets see what happens.BTW good luck to Ross...he deserves success.[/p][/quote]I'm all for opinions and I'm not saying he will score loads just he never got the chance. He is a goalscorer and offers little else whereas parky prefers a work horse who scores very little, which is fine as the system with wells getting the goals is working. Only thing I'm knocking is why people have to knock the guy when he has less than six hours football to prove his worth. Why do people on here think the conference is so poor. How many league teams cone straight back? Why do most of the promoted teams always seem to fare well and in recent years finish higher than our team in the league if the gulf is so massive. He will score goals in league two with Grimsby if they are promoted because they will play to his strengths. Parkinson as only ever praised the lad and his attitude[/p][/quote]Macca. Ho much time do you think PP should allow a player to prove his worth. PP knows more than we do; sees him every day in training, has seen him play friendlies and reserve fixtures i.e. the man who makes the decisions has seen vastly more than six hours. As a result of what he has seen; he does not think it is worth risking his own job by giving Ross more 1st team action than he has had. With Wells on 16 for the season Connell on 8 and Hanson on 7; where exactly do you think the opportunity to play Hannah has been? If our top 3 scorers continue in the same vein for the rest of the season then they will have a similar haul between them to a certain Mills, Blake and Beagrie.[/p][/quote]But that is not what I am saying. What gets me is that people write him off at this level dissing his abilities. All I am saying is he will score goals at this level in a team set up to play to his strength. Parky has only ever praised the lad has he not, but obviously he sets the team up to play in a style that does not suit Ross, as such he is correct to move him on. I am not disputing or questioning his decision, just why some fans have to judge him when we haven't seen him in action that much. If you are good enough in the conference your good enough in league two.[/p][/quote]You're wasting your breath on these lot Bro. Either they are EXTREMELY thick or are arguing for the sake of it. How many times do you have to spell it out to some of these posters. YOU havent said Hannah 'is good enough' YOU haven't said PP is wrong to pick Hanson, Wells and Connell over him YOU haven't said PP is wrong to release him before giving him a chance. Why can't these people understand that you (and I) are merely saying that we don't know if he is "good enough" because he didn't get a long enough run. We're not saying he is good enough and dispute the claims by others that they KNOW he isn't good enough..! If I had a 'head-shake' or 'roll-eyes' smiley, I would use it right now...![/p][/quote]I for one am not disputing that you are not saying that Hannah is a worldbeater. The opinion that he isn't good enough is a response to your assertion that he hasn't had a chance to prove it. 27 appearances in total; even for 10 or 15 minutes a lot of the time is more than enough to show something and a lot more opportunity than many others get. It's also enough to form an opinion. By saying you think he should have had more opportunities then YOU ARE expressing an opinion that he was worthy of more opportunities; or are you just arguing for the sake of it? Seriously Waynus; how quickly did you tell us all that Atkinson wasn't good enough for City...it didn't take 6 hours did it...[/p][/quote]As I said earlier, I NEVER did say Atkinson wasn't good enough and challenged you to prove otherwise. I think you will shown to be WRONG! As for "By saying you think he should have had more opportunities .....". Where did I say he should have been given enough opportunities? I said he HASN'T had enough opportunities to prove either way, but I didn't say he should have had more. These are two very different statements and I thought you were bright enough to understand that??? Wells deserves to start alongside Hanson, thus he is getting the opportunities and rightly so. Hannah hasn't been able to break up that partnership, because Wells' form has been that good, hence he hasn't had as many opportunites. You still keep referring to his 19 appearnaces, but I asked you a question earlier in this thread. How many minutes on the pitch has Hannah actually had? It's okay saying he had 19 appearances and, (in your view - which you forgot to include), he should have had time to prove his worth. However, many of those 'appearances' were from the bench in the dying moments of games, some times in injury time...! And don't forget, last season, when he got most of those performances, we, as a team were DIRE. But don't let that FACT deter you from making your "opinion".[/p][/quote]But last season when we were dire wells broke into the team by coming off the bench and scoring goals and then making himself a first team fixture. Why didn't Hannah do the same?Because IMO he wasn't good enough. Anyway he's gone now and we should look to the future.[/p][/quote]Are you for real? I'm not supposed to say I don't think he was good enough but you can. You did mention the word hypocrite didn't you? You do understand the meaning of hypocrisy don't you?[/p][/quote]Mickyoi said in his opinion he wasn't good enough not ME. Yes I do understand the word hypocrisy,do you understand the words that you read. Thought not macca1969

10:29pm Fri 11 Jan 13

mickyoi says...

macca1969 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
mickyoi wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
macca1969 wrote: If Ross gets Grimsby promoted then scores plenty next season in league two what will that prove? Nothing only his face didn't fit here or should I say his style if play. Its not that he isn't good enough only that we as a club don't play the style of football suited to Ross. I'm hoping they get promoted and Ross wins the league two golden boot next season to shut some of you lot up. . To say he is rubbish at this level just because he doesn't suit or fit into our system is a disgrace. Good luck Ross I hope you get to shut a few up on here but not at our expense I hope
We can all have an opinion macca. If you think Hannah is good enough for league 2 then fair enough. It seems that some of us believe he has limitations and the concept of him banging in lots of goals in this division is highly unlikely. No point arguing about the future. You think he will score lots of goals in league football in future...noted. I dont. lets see what happens.BTW good luck to Ross...he deserves success.
I'm all for opinions and I'm not saying he will score loads just he never got the chance. He is a goalscorer and offers little else whereas parky prefers a work horse who scores very little, which is fine as the system with wells getting the goals is working. Only thing I'm knocking is why people have to knock the guy when he has less than six hours football to prove his worth. Why do people on here think the conference is so poor. How many league teams cone straight back? Why do most of the promoted teams always seem to fare well and in recent years finish higher than our team in the league if the gulf is so massive. He will score goals in league two with Grimsby if they are promoted because they will play to his strengths. Parkinson as only ever praised the lad and his attitude
Macca. Ho much time do you think PP should allow a player to prove his worth. PP knows more than we do; sees him every day in training, has seen him play friendlies and reserve fixtures i.e. the man who makes the decisions has seen vastly more than six hours. As a result of what he has seen; he does not think it is worth risking his own job by giving Ross more 1st team action than he has had. With Wells on 16 for the season Connell on 8 and Hanson on 7; where exactly do you think the opportunity to play Hannah has been? If our top 3 scorers continue in the same vein for the rest of the season then they will have a similar haul between them to a certain Mills, Blake and Beagrie.
But that is not what I am saying. What gets me is that people write him off at this level dissing his abilities. All I am saying is he will score goals at this level in a team set up to play to his strength. Parky has only ever praised the lad has he not, but obviously he sets the team up to play in a style that does not suit Ross, as such he is correct to move him on. I am not disputing or questioning his decision, just why some fans have to judge him when we haven't seen him in action that much. If you are good enough in the conference your good enough in league two.
You're wasting your breath on these lot Bro. Either they are EXTREMELY thick or are arguing for the sake of it. How many times do you have to spell it out to some of these posters. YOU havent said Hannah 'is good enough' YOU haven't said PP is wrong to pick Hanson, Wells and Connell over him YOU haven't said PP is wrong to release him before giving him a chance. Why can't these people understand that you (and I) are merely saying that we don't know if he is "good enough" because he didn't get a long enough run. We're not saying he is good enough and dispute the claims by others that they KNOW he isn't good enough..! If I had a 'head-shake' or 'roll-eyes' smiley, I would use it right now...!
I for one am not disputing that you are not saying that Hannah is a worldbeater. The opinion that he isn't good enough is a response to your assertion that he hasn't had a chance to prove it. 27 appearances in total; even for 10 or 15 minutes a lot of the time is more than enough to show something and a lot more opportunity than many others get. It's also enough to form an opinion. By saying you think he should have had more opportunities then YOU ARE expressing an opinion that he was worthy of more opportunities; or are you just arguing for the sake of it? Seriously Waynus; how quickly did you tell us all that Atkinson wasn't good enough for City...it didn't take 6 hours did it...
As I said earlier, I NEVER did say Atkinson wasn't good enough and challenged you to prove otherwise. I think you will shown to be WRONG!

As for "By saying you think he should have had more opportunities .....". Where did I say he should have been given enough opportunities? I said he HASN'T had enough opportunities to prove either way, but I didn't say he should have had more. These are two very different statements and I thought you were bright enough to understand that???

Wells deserves to start alongside Hanson, thus he is getting the opportunities and rightly so. Hannah hasn't been able to break up that partnership, because Wells' form has been that good, hence he hasn't had as many opportunites.

You still keep referring to his 19 appearnaces, but I asked you a question earlier in this thread. How many minutes on the pitch has Hannah actually had? It's okay saying he had 19 appearances and, (in your view - which you forgot to include), he should have had time to prove his worth. However, many of those 'appearances' were from the bench in the dying moments of games, some times in injury time...!

And don't forget, last season, when he got most of those performances, we, as a team were DIRE. But don't let that FACT deter you from making your "opinion".
But last season when we were dire wells broke into the team by coming off the bench and scoring goals and then making himself a first team fixture. Why didn't Hannah do the same?Because IMO he wasn't good enough. Anyway he's gone now and we should look to the future.
Are you for real? I'm not supposed to say I don't think he was good enough but you can. You did mention the word hypocrite didn't you? You do understand the meaning of hypocrisy don't you?
Mickyoi said in his opinion he wasn't good enough not ME. Yes I do understand the word hypocrisy,do you understand the words that you read. Thought not
My previous post was aimed at waynus in the defence of knight mcall ha ha I'm not posting anymore. It's mental this forum.
[quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickyoi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: If Ross gets Grimsby promoted then scores plenty next season in league two what will that prove? Nothing only his face didn't fit here or should I say his style if play. Its not that he isn't good enough only that we as a club don't play the style of football suited to Ross. I'm hoping they get promoted and Ross wins the league two golden boot next season to shut some of you lot up. . To say he is rubbish at this level just because he doesn't suit or fit into our system is a disgrace. Good luck Ross I hope you get to shut a few up on here but not at our expense I hope[/p][/quote]We can all have an opinion macca. If you think Hannah is good enough for league 2 then fair enough. It seems that some of us believe he has limitations and the concept of him banging in lots of goals in this division is highly unlikely. No point arguing about the future. You think he will score lots of goals in league football in future...noted. I dont. lets see what happens.BTW good luck to Ross...he deserves success.[/p][/quote]I'm all for opinions and I'm not saying he will score loads just he never got the chance. He is a goalscorer and offers little else whereas parky prefers a work horse who scores very little, which is fine as the system with wells getting the goals is working. Only thing I'm knocking is why people have to knock the guy when he has less than six hours football to prove his worth. Why do people on here think the conference is so poor. How many league teams cone straight back? Why do most of the promoted teams always seem to fare well and in recent years finish higher than our team in the league if the gulf is so massive. He will score goals in league two with Grimsby if they are promoted because they will play to his strengths. Parkinson as only ever praised the lad and his attitude[/p][/quote]Macca. Ho much time do you think PP should allow a player to prove his worth. PP knows more than we do; sees him every day in training, has seen him play friendlies and reserve fixtures i.e. the man who makes the decisions has seen vastly more than six hours. As a result of what he has seen; he does not think it is worth risking his own job by giving Ross more 1st team action than he has had. With Wells on 16 for the season Connell on 8 and Hanson on 7; where exactly do you think the opportunity to play Hannah has been? If our top 3 scorers continue in the same vein for the rest of the season then they will have a similar haul between them to a certain Mills, Blake and Beagrie.[/p][/quote]But that is not what I am saying. What gets me is that people write him off at this level dissing his abilities. All I am saying is he will score goals at this level in a team set up to play to his strength. Parky has only ever praised the lad has he not, but obviously he sets the team up to play in a style that does not suit Ross, as such he is correct to move him on. I am not disputing or questioning his decision, just why some fans have to judge him when we haven't seen him in action that much. If you are good enough in the conference your good enough in league two.[/p][/quote]You're wasting your breath on these lot Bro. Either they are EXTREMELY thick or are arguing for the sake of it. How many times do you have to spell it out to some of these posters. YOU havent said Hannah 'is good enough' YOU haven't said PP is wrong to pick Hanson, Wells and Connell over him YOU haven't said PP is wrong to release him before giving him a chance. Why can't these people understand that you (and I) are merely saying that we don't know if he is "good enough" because he didn't get a long enough run. We're not saying he is good enough and dispute the claims by others that they KNOW he isn't good enough..! If I had a 'head-shake' or 'roll-eyes' smiley, I would use it right now...![/p][/quote]I for one am not disputing that you are not saying that Hannah is a worldbeater. The opinion that he isn't good enough is a response to your assertion that he hasn't had a chance to prove it. 27 appearances in total; even for 10 or 15 minutes a lot of the time is more than enough to show something and a lot more opportunity than many others get. It's also enough to form an opinion. By saying you think he should have had more opportunities then YOU ARE expressing an opinion that he was worthy of more opportunities; or are you just arguing for the sake of it? Seriously Waynus; how quickly did you tell us all that Atkinson wasn't good enough for City...it didn't take 6 hours did it...[/p][/quote]As I said earlier, I NEVER did say Atkinson wasn't good enough and challenged you to prove otherwise. I think you will shown to be WRONG! As for "By saying you think he should have had more opportunities .....". Where did I say he should have been given enough opportunities? I said he HASN'T had enough opportunities to prove either way, but I didn't say he should have had more. These are two very different statements and I thought you were bright enough to understand that??? Wells deserves to start alongside Hanson, thus he is getting the opportunities and rightly so. Hannah hasn't been able to break up that partnership, because Wells' form has been that good, hence he hasn't had as many opportunites. You still keep referring to his 19 appearnaces, but I asked you a question earlier in this thread. How many minutes on the pitch has Hannah actually had? It's okay saying he had 19 appearances and, (in your view - which you forgot to include), he should have had time to prove his worth. However, many of those 'appearances' were from the bench in the dying moments of games, some times in injury time...! And don't forget, last season, when he got most of those performances, we, as a team were DIRE. But don't let that FACT deter you from making your "opinion".[/p][/quote]But last season when we were dire wells broke into the team by coming off the bench and scoring goals and then making himself a first team fixture. Why didn't Hannah do the same?Because IMO he wasn't good enough. Anyway he's gone now and we should look to the future.[/p][/quote]Are you for real? I'm not supposed to say I don't think he was good enough but you can. You did mention the word hypocrite didn't you? You do understand the meaning of hypocrisy don't you?[/p][/quote]Mickyoi said in his opinion he wasn't good enough not ME. Yes I do understand the word hypocrisy,do you understand the words that you read. Thought not[/p][/quote]My previous post was aimed at waynus in the defence of knight mcall ha ha I'm not posting anymore. It's mental this forum. mickyoi

11:44pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Boing-Boing says...

whether or not he bangs in 30 and gets them promoted does not mean we have made a mistake, the manager must have thought that he wasnt good enough in training to get a run of games, he may never bang in 30 for us even if he did. It just so happens that things click at a certain club and not at others.
Good luck Ross, sorry it didnt work out here
whether or not he bangs in 30 and gets them promoted does not mean we have made a mistake, the manager must have thought that he wasnt good enough in training to get a run of games, he may never bang in 30 for us even if he did. It just so happens that things click at a certain club and not at others. Good luck Ross, sorry it didnt work out here Boing-Boing

1:33am Sat 12 Jan 13

Waynus1971 says...

Boing-Boing wrote:
whether or not he bangs in 30 and gets them promoted does not mean we have made a mistake, the manager must have thought that he wasnt good enough in training to get a run of games, he may never bang in 30 for us even if he did. It just so happens that things click at a certain club and not at others.
Good luck Ross, sorry it didnt work out here
And that is our point. If he did play in L2 next season and scored 20+ goals, that doesn't mean PP was wrong to let him go.

However it would prove the point that my brother and I have been trying to make and that is, that at this stage, we don't know if he can cut it. As such it is unfair to label him as not good enough.

If I bought a car, supposedly capable of doing 180mph but I only used it sparingly and certainly not on roads for its purpose, would I be wrong to say it was a rubbish car because it hadn't done what I thought it was capable of? If I didn't take it to tracks where I could test if out, how could I dismiss it?
[quote][p][bold]Boing-Boing[/bold] wrote: whether or not he bangs in 30 and gets them promoted does not mean we have made a mistake, the manager must have thought that he wasnt good enough in training to get a run of games, he may never bang in 30 for us even if he did. It just so happens that things click at a certain club and not at others. Good luck Ross, sorry it didnt work out here[/p][/quote]And that is our point. If he did play in L2 next season and scored 20+ goals, that doesn't mean PP was wrong to let him go. However it would prove the point that my brother and I have been trying to make and that is, that at this stage, we don't know if he can cut it. As such it is unfair to label him as not good enough. If I bought a car, supposedly capable of doing 180mph but I only used it sparingly and certainly not on roads for its purpose, would I be wrong to say it was a rubbish car because it hadn't done what I thought it was capable of? If I didn't take it to tracks where I could test if out, how could I dismiss it? Waynus1971

7:29am Sat 12 Jan 13

KnightMcCall says...

mickyoi wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
mickyoi wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
macca1969 wrote: If Ross gets Grimsby promoted then scores plenty next season in league two what will that prove? Nothing only his face didn't fit here or should I say his style if play. Its not that he isn't good enough only that we as a club don't play the style of football suited to Ross. I'm hoping they get promoted and Ross wins the league two golden boot next season to shut some of you lot up. . To say he is rubbish at this level just because he doesn't suit or fit into our system is a disgrace. Good luck Ross I hope you get to shut a few up on here but not at our expense I hope
We can all have an opinion macca. If you think Hannah is good enough for league 2 then fair enough. It seems that some of us believe he has limitations and the concept of him banging in lots of goals in this division is highly unlikely. No point arguing about the future. You think he will score lots of goals in league football in future...noted. I dont. lets see what happens.BTW good luck to Ross...he deserves success.
I'm all for opinions and I'm not saying he will score loads just he never got the chance. He is a goalscorer and offers little else whereas parky prefers a work horse who scores very little, which is fine as the system with wells getting the goals is working. Only thing I'm knocking is why people have to knock the guy when he has less than six hours football to prove his worth. Why do people on here think the conference is so poor. How many league teams cone straight back? Why do most of the promoted teams always seem to fare well and in recent years finish higher than our team in the league if the gulf is so massive. He will score goals in league two with Grimsby if they are promoted because they will play to his strengths. Parkinson as only ever praised the lad and his attitude
Macca. Ho much time do you think PP should allow a player to prove his worth. PP knows more than we do; sees him every day in training, has seen him play friendlies and reserve fixtures i.e. the man who makes the decisions has seen vastly more than six hours. As a result of what he has seen; he does not think it is worth risking his own job by giving Ross more 1st team action than he has had. With Wells on 16 for the season Connell on 8 and Hanson on 7; where exactly do you think the opportunity to play Hannah has been? If our top 3 scorers continue in the same vein for the rest of the season then they will have a similar haul between them to a certain Mills, Blake and Beagrie.
But that is not what I am saying. What gets me is that people write him off at this level dissing his abilities. All I am saying is he will score goals at this level in a team set up to play to his strength. Parky has only ever praised the lad has he not, but obviously he sets the team up to play in a style that does not suit Ross, as such he is correct to move him on. I am not disputing or questioning his decision, just why some fans have to judge him when we haven't seen him in action that much. If you are good enough in the conference your good enough in league two.
You're wasting your breath on these lot Bro. Either they are EXTREMELY thick or are arguing for the sake of it. How many times do you have to spell it out to some of these posters. YOU havent said Hannah 'is good enough' YOU haven't said PP is wrong to pick Hanson, Wells and Connell over him YOU haven't said PP is wrong to release him before giving him a chance. Why can't these people understand that you (and I) are merely saying that we don't know if he is "good enough" because he didn't get a long enough run. We're not saying he is good enough and dispute the claims by others that they KNOW he isn't good enough..! If I had a 'head-shake' or 'roll-eyes' smiley, I would use it right now...!
I for one am not disputing that you are not saying that Hannah is a worldbeater. The opinion that he isn't good enough is a response to your assertion that he hasn't had a chance to prove it. 27 appearances in total; even for 10 or 15 minutes a lot of the time is more than enough to show something and a lot more opportunity than many others get. It's also enough to form an opinion. By saying you think he should have had more opportunities then YOU ARE expressing an opinion that he was worthy of more opportunities; or are you just arguing for the sake of it? Seriously Waynus; how quickly did you tell us all that Atkinson wasn't good enough for City...it didn't take 6 hours did it...
As I said earlier, I NEVER did say Atkinson wasn't good enough and challenged you to prove otherwise. I think you will shown to be WRONG!

As for "By saying you think he should have had more opportunities .....". Where did I say he should have been given enough opportunities? I said he HASN'T had enough opportunities to prove either way, but I didn't say he should have had more. These are two very different statements and I thought you were bright enough to understand that???

Wells deserves to start alongside Hanson, thus he is getting the opportunities and rightly so. Hannah hasn't been able to break up that partnership, because Wells' form has been that good, hence he hasn't had as many opportunites.

You still keep referring to his 19 appearnaces, but I asked you a question earlier in this thread. How many minutes on the pitch has Hannah actually had? It's okay saying he had 19 appearances and, (in your view - which you forgot to include), he should have had time to prove his worth. However, many of those 'appearances' were from the bench in the dying moments of games, some times in injury time...!

And don't forget, last season, when he got most of those performances, we, as a team were DIRE. But don't let that FACT deter you from making your "opinion".
But last season when we were dire wells broke into the team by coming off the bench and scoring goals and then making himself a first team fixture. Why didn't Hannah do the same?Because IMO he wasn't good enough. Anyway he's gone now and we should look to the future.
Are you for real? I'm not supposed to say I don't think he was good enough but you can. You did mention the word hypocrite didn't you? You do understand the meaning of hypocrisy don't you?
Mickyoi said in his opinion he wasn't good enough not ME. Yes I do understand the word hypocrisy,do you understand the words that you read. Thought not
My previous post was aimed at waynus in the defence of knight mcall ha ha I'm not posting anymore. It's mental this forum.
Mickyoi, waynus. I swear that last night that this forum showed each of the posts were from Mickyoi and not from waynus or Macca.
[quote][p][bold]mickyoi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickyoi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: If Ross gets Grimsby promoted then scores plenty next season in league two what will that prove? Nothing only his face didn't fit here or should I say his style if play. Its not that he isn't good enough only that we as a club don't play the style of football suited to Ross. I'm hoping they get promoted and Ross wins the league two golden boot next season to shut some of you lot up. . To say he is rubbish at this level just because he doesn't suit or fit into our system is a disgrace. Good luck Ross I hope you get to shut a few up on here but not at our expense I hope[/p][/quote]We can all have an opinion macca. If you think Hannah is good enough for league 2 then fair enough. It seems that some of us believe he has limitations and the concept of him banging in lots of goals in this division is highly unlikely. No point arguing about the future. You think he will score lots of goals in league football in future...noted. I dont. lets see what happens.BTW good luck to Ross...he deserves success.[/p][/quote]I'm all for opinions and I'm not saying he will score loads just he never got the chance. He is a goalscorer and offers little else whereas parky prefers a work horse who scores very little, which is fine as the system with wells getting the goals is working. Only thing I'm knocking is why people have to knock the guy when he has less than six hours football to prove his worth. Why do people on here think the conference is so poor. How many league teams cone straight back? Why do most of the promoted teams always seem to fare well and in recent years finish higher than our team in the league if the gulf is so massive. He will score goals in league two with Grimsby if they are promoted because they will play to his strengths. Parkinson as only ever praised the lad and his attitude[/p][/quote]Macca. Ho much time do you think PP should allow a player to prove his worth. PP knows more than we do; sees him every day in training, has seen him play friendlies and reserve fixtures i.e. the man who makes the decisions has seen vastly more than six hours. As a result of what he has seen; he does not think it is worth risking his own job by giving Ross more 1st team action than he has had. With Wells on 16 for the season Connell on 8 and Hanson on 7; where exactly do you think the opportunity to play Hannah has been? If our top 3 scorers continue in the same vein for the rest of the season then they will have a similar haul between them to a certain Mills, Blake and Beagrie.[/p][/quote]But that is not what I am saying. What gets me is that people write him off at this level dissing his abilities. All I am saying is he will score goals at this level in a team set up to play to his strength. Parky has only ever praised the lad has he not, but obviously he sets the team up to play in a style that does not suit Ross, as such he is correct to move him on. I am not disputing or questioning his decision, just why some fans have to judge him when we haven't seen him in action that much. If you are good enough in the conference your good enough in league two.[/p][/quote]You're wasting your breath on these lot Bro. Either they are EXTREMELY thick or are arguing for the sake of it. How many times do you have to spell it out to some of these posters. YOU havent said Hannah 'is good enough' YOU haven't said PP is wrong to pick Hanson, Wells and Connell over him YOU haven't said PP is wrong to release him before giving him a chance. Why can't these people understand that you (and I) are merely saying that we don't know if he is "good enough" because he didn't get a long enough run. We're not saying he is good enough and dispute the claims by others that they KNOW he isn't good enough..! If I had a 'head-shake' or 'roll-eyes' smiley, I would use it right now...![/p][/quote]I for one am not disputing that you are not saying that Hannah is a worldbeater. The opinion that he isn't good enough is a response to your assertion that he hasn't had a chance to prove it. 27 appearances in total; even for 10 or 15 minutes a lot of the time is more than enough to show something and a lot more opportunity than many others get. It's also enough to form an opinion. By saying you think he should have had more opportunities then YOU ARE expressing an opinion that he was worthy of more opportunities; or are you just arguing for the sake of it? Seriously Waynus; how quickly did you tell us all that Atkinson wasn't good enough for City...it didn't take 6 hours did it...[/p][/quote]As I said earlier, I NEVER did say Atkinson wasn't good enough and challenged you to prove otherwise. I think you will shown to be WRONG! As for "By saying you think he should have had more opportunities .....". Where did I say he should have been given enough opportunities? I said he HASN'T had enough opportunities to prove either way, but I didn't say he should have had more. These are two very different statements and I thought you were bright enough to understand that??? Wells deserves to start alongside Hanson, thus he is getting the opportunities and rightly so. Hannah hasn't been able to break up that partnership, because Wells' form has been that good, hence he hasn't had as many opportunites. You still keep referring to his 19 appearnaces, but I asked you a question earlier in this thread. How many minutes on the pitch has Hannah actually had? It's okay saying he had 19 appearances and, (in your view - which you forgot to include), he should have had time to prove his worth. However, many of those 'appearances' were from the bench in the dying moments of games, some times in injury time...! And don't forget, last season, when he got most of those performances, we, as a team were DIRE. But don't let that FACT deter you from making your "opinion".[/p][/quote]But last season when we were dire wells broke into the team by coming off the bench and scoring goals and then making himself a first team fixture. Why didn't Hannah do the same?Because IMO he wasn't good enough. Anyway he's gone now and we should look to the future.[/p][/quote]Are you for real? I'm not supposed to say I don't think he was good enough but you can. You did mention the word hypocrite didn't you? You do understand the meaning of hypocrisy don't you?[/p][/quote]Mickyoi said in his opinion he wasn't good enough not ME. Yes I do understand the word hypocrisy,do you understand the words that you read. Thought not[/p][/quote]My previous post was aimed at waynus in the defence of knight mcall ha ha I'm not posting anymore. It's mental this forum.[/p][/quote]Mickyoi, waynus. I swear that last night that this forum showed each of the posts were from Mickyoi and not from waynus or Macca. KnightMcCall

7:49am Sat 12 Jan 13

KnightMcCall says...

Waynus1971 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
macca1969 wrote: If Ross gets Grimsby promoted then scores plenty next season in league two what will that prove? Nothing only his face didn't fit here or should I say his style if play. Its not that he isn't good enough only that we as a club don't play the style of football suited to Ross. I'm hoping they get promoted and Ross wins the league two golden boot next season to shut some of you lot up. . To say he is rubbish at this level just because he doesn't suit or fit into our system is a disgrace. Good luck Ross I hope you get to shut a few up on here but not at our expense I hope
We can all have an opinion macca. If you think Hannah is good enough for league 2 then fair enough. It seems that some of us believe he has limitations and the concept of him banging in lots of goals in this division is highly unlikely. No point arguing about the future. You think he will score lots of goals in league football in future...noted. I dont. lets see what happens.BTW good luck to Ross...he deserves success.
But that is the issue. What are you not understanding fella? Does someone need to read it out slowly to you.

Macca hasn't said he thinks Hannah is good enough for league2. If you think he did, can you read it to me. The point Macca (and others) have made is that we DON'T know if he can cut it in League2 and find the comments that he can't a little premature and unfair on the lad.

You then go on to state Macca has said Hannah "will score lots of goals in league football in future". Again, he didn't say that did he! he said he "hoped" Hannah would score goals and shut some of the posters on here up....!

One final point. Parkinson did not rate Syers and always looked to drop him after a poor team performance last season. When Syers opted to move on, to get regular football, PP said he would be able to find a better player with the money (wages). Nobody can argue that Jones & Doyle are quality players, but that does not mean that because PP didn't pick Syers regularly, that he wasn't good enough...! Look how he is doing for Donnie in the league above us.
Macca very specifically said he was good enough for league 2. Its the words "Ross WILL" score goals in this division if Grimsby come up. Read again waynus. No mention of hope in that statement. You both insist that none of us are are allowed on opinion on Hannah because we havent seen enough of him on the pitch. I have seen enough to form my opinion.
[quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: If Ross gets Grimsby promoted then scores plenty next season in league two what will that prove? Nothing only his face didn't fit here or should I say his style if play. Its not that he isn't good enough only that we as a club don't play the style of football suited to Ross. I'm hoping they get promoted and Ross wins the league two golden boot next season to shut some of you lot up. . To say he is rubbish at this level just because he doesn't suit or fit into our system is a disgrace. Good luck Ross I hope you get to shut a few up on here but not at our expense I hope[/p][/quote]We can all have an opinion macca. If you think Hannah is good enough for league 2 then fair enough. It seems that some of us believe he has limitations and the concept of him banging in lots of goals in this division is highly unlikely. No point arguing about the future. You think he will score lots of goals in league football in future...noted. I dont. lets see what happens.BTW good luck to Ross...he deserves success.[/p][/quote]But that is the issue. What are you not understanding fella? Does someone need to read it out slowly to you. Macca hasn't said he thinks Hannah is good enough for league2. If you think he did, can you read it to me. The point Macca (and others) have made is that we DON'T know if he can cut it in League2 and find the comments that he can't a little premature and unfair on the lad. You then go on to state Macca has said Hannah "will score lots of goals in league football in future". Again, he didn't say that did he! he said he "hoped" Hannah would score goals and shut some of the posters on here up....! One final point. Parkinson did not rate Syers and always looked to drop him after a poor team performance last season. When Syers opted to move on, to get regular football, PP said he would be able to find a better player with the money (wages). Nobody can argue that Jones & Doyle are quality players, but that does not mean that because PP didn't pick Syers regularly, that he wasn't good enough...! Look how he is doing for Donnie in the league above us.[/p][/quote]Macca very specifically said he was good enough for league 2. Its the words "Ross WILL" score goals in this division if Grimsby come up. Read again waynus. No mention of hope in that statement. You both insist that none of us are are allowed on opinion on Hannah because we havent seen enough of him on the pitch. I have seen enough to form my opinion. KnightMcCall

8:02am Sat 12 Jan 13

KnightMcCall says...

Waynus1971 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
Birky_Neil wrote:
mickyoi wrote: Thank god for that. At least we don't have to listen to all his lovers banging on about how amazing he is and should be playing for us every week. Conference is his level. Good luck to the lad though, hope he does well for them. Just not good enough to get in our team.
And how the hell do u know he is not good enough when he has never been given a chance idiot.
He made 19 appearances for City. I saw most of them. He wasn't good enough. Time to move on.
B0ll0x fella. Yes, he may have made 19 appearances, but how many of those were just 5 mins here and there? How many minutes did he ACTUALLY spend on the pitch? More importantly, how many CONSECUTIVE games did he play for us? ANY striker would struggle to be consistent with a start here, five mins there and a couple of months not getting off the bench....! You didn't rate him, fair enough, but lets stop this "FACT" that he isn't good enough to play at this level. Hopefully Grimsby will get promoted and then we will finally be able to judge, once and for all, whether he can cut it at this level...!
Where do I state it is a fact? It is my opinion that he is not good enough and the "fact" that he got so little time in the first team shows what the management and coaching staff thought too. Perhaps I am just more astute than you are at gauging the quality of a player; like Will Atkinson for a start. You slated him after less time on the pitch than Ross has had and YOU WERE WRONG. It is possible that Ross will prove me wrong; i am happy to wait and see. Compare the impact that Ross had in those 19 appearances with the impact that Wells had in the equivalent number of minutes on the pitch. I've seen Hannah play enough to know that i'm pleased he is now a Grimsby player. Next time that you state that a player is good/bad/indifferent I will be happy to quiz you on the number of minutes you have watched them play to form that opinion. As for hoping Grimsby win promotion so that we get to see how he performs in League 2; try reading the response I gave to your brother...where i said exactly the same thing.
WRONG AGAIN FELLA!!! I was one of a minority that actually rated Atkinson. Said so when he signed and continually defended him throughout the season. Have a look back and then you can apologise. As with any player, I may have slated a performance, but I NEVER said he wasn't good enough!!!

As for the fact, it isn't a 'fact' that Hannah isn't good enough and is proven by the amount of time on the pitch. The 'fact' is that Wells (who Hannah was in direct competition with) deserved his place, thus there was no room for Hannah to start. Wells has been excellent, but that doesn't automatically mean that Hannah isn't good enough for League2. He just wasn't good enough to oust Wells.....!

In the above (response) post, you have claimed it is your opinion that Hannah wasn't good enough. However, in your original post, you never mentioned "in your opinion", thus implying it was a fact and not an opinion. Let me remind you what you typed, "He made 19 appearances for City. I saw most of them. He wasn't good enough". NO REFERNCE TO THIS JUST BEING YOUR OPINION...!

I hadn't read any other posts, I simply read the initial one and clicked 'reply'. You may have changed your opinion/quote, but by citing PP's decision not to play him, indicates that that isn't the case.

Wells is a completely different player to Hannah and thus will obviously have chance to make a different kind of impact. Hannah's record isn't much different to Connell's (for example) and I would argue that they have had a similar impact. Are you saying Connell (with his impact vs mins on pitch) is also not good enough...?
Waynus. I assume that you are bright enough to understand that any statement regarding how good a player is can only ever be an opinion. I cannot state as a fact that Ross isnt good enough; it must be an opinion. It should not need referencing as my opinion unless you are a bit slow. Why havent you picked up Macca for stating Ross WILL score goals in this division (twice)....he cannot possibly know this!
[quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Birky_Neil[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickyoi[/bold] wrote: Thank god for that. At least we don't have to listen to all his lovers banging on about how amazing he is and should be playing for us every week. Conference is his level. Good luck to the lad though, hope he does well for them. Just not good enough to get in our team.[/p][/quote]And how the hell do u know he is not good enough when he has never been given a chance idiot.[/p][/quote]He made 19 appearances for City. I saw most of them. He wasn't good enough. Time to move on.[/p][/quote]B0ll0x fella. Yes, he may have made 19 appearances, but how many of those were just 5 mins here and there? How many minutes did he ACTUALLY spend on the pitch? More importantly, how many CONSECUTIVE games did he play for us? ANY striker would struggle to be consistent with a start here, five mins there and a couple of months not getting off the bench....! You didn't rate him, fair enough, but lets stop this "FACT" that he isn't good enough to play at this level. Hopefully Grimsby will get promoted and then we will finally be able to judge, once and for all, whether he can cut it at this level...![/p][/quote]Where do I state it is a fact? It is my opinion that he is not good enough and the "fact" that he got so little time in the first team shows what the management and coaching staff thought too. Perhaps I am just more astute than you are at gauging the quality of a player; like Will Atkinson for a start. You slated him after less time on the pitch than Ross has had and YOU WERE WRONG. It is possible that Ross will prove me wrong; i am happy to wait and see. Compare the impact that Ross had in those 19 appearances with the impact that Wells had in the equivalent number of minutes on the pitch. I've seen Hannah play enough to know that i'm pleased he is now a Grimsby player. Next time that you state that a player is good/bad/indifferent I will be happy to quiz you on the number of minutes you have watched them play to form that opinion. As for hoping Grimsby win promotion so that we get to see how he performs in League 2; try reading the response I gave to your brother...where i said exactly the same thing.[/p][/quote]WRONG AGAIN FELLA!!! I was one of a minority that actually rated Atkinson. Said so when he signed and continually defended him throughout the season. Have a look back and then you can apologise. As with any player, I may have slated a performance, but I NEVER said he wasn't good enough!!! As for the fact, it isn't a 'fact' that Hannah isn't good enough and is proven by the amount of time on the pitch. The 'fact' is that Wells (who Hannah was in direct competition with) deserved his place, thus there was no room for Hannah to start. Wells has been excellent, but that doesn't automatically mean that Hannah isn't good enough for League2. He just wasn't good enough to oust Wells.....! In the above (response) post, you have claimed it is your opinion that Hannah wasn't good enough. However, in your original post, you never mentioned "in your opinion", thus implying it was a fact and not an opinion. Let me remind you what you typed, "He made 19 appearances for City. I saw most of them. He wasn't good enough". NO REFERNCE TO THIS JUST BEING YOUR OPINION...! I hadn't read any other posts, I simply read the initial one and clicked 'reply'. You may have changed your opinion/quote, but by citing PP's decision not to play him, indicates that that isn't the case. Wells is a completely different player to Hannah and thus will obviously have chance to make a different kind of impact. Hannah's record isn't much different to Connell's (for example) and I would argue that they have had a similar impact. Are you saying Connell (with his impact vs mins on pitch) is also not good enough...?[/p][/quote]Waynus. I assume that you are bright enough to understand that any statement regarding how good a player is can only ever be an opinion. I cannot state as a fact that Ross isnt good enough; it must be an opinion. It should not need referencing as my opinion unless you are a bit slow. Why havent you picked up Macca for stating Ross WILL score goals in this division (twice)....he cannot possibly know this! KnightMcCall

8:11am Sat 12 Jan 13

KnightMcCall says...

macca1969 wrote:
mickyoi wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
He only ever started four times for city in the league. Twice being subbed and once injured. He has played less than six hours football for city giving him a goal ratio of one goal every two hours of football. That is one goal every game and half roughly speaking. So tell me how many goals per minutes on the pitch is Hanson's strike rate
He scored 2 league goals for City...Oxford and Morcambe. Only other goal was in Cup vs Wombles. If you include the cup goal though you need to include cup appearances which makes 3 goals in 27 appearances. SO I repeat; "not for City he hasn't".

Still don't get where you and Waynus believe he just hasn't had any chances. Perhaps if you went to more games you would realise he has had plenty of opportunities and just hasn't done enough to earn more time on the pitch.
Your a right Rodney trotter you aren't you. So when you count his appearances six minutes here or ten minutes there is a full game and therefore a chance. He played less than six hours football for city whether he had 27 matches ir not. He was only on the pitch for less than four games in total. If you want to put the two jpt games in alongside the ten minutes in the capitol one then he still played only six full games in terms of minutes on the pitch giving him 3 goals in nine hours of football,which is still a better strike rate than Hanson
Putting Hanson to one side do you think Hannah's 3 goals in 9 hours is enough for us to give him more game time? I'm not being argumentative I just would like to know what you think.
No I don't think of you being argumentative, for the record it isn't a bad return for minutes on the pitch. But and its a big but, the way we as a team play we need more than goals from our strikers. Hanson who is a poor finisher to be fair makes up for that with unbelievable work rate, his physical presence unsettles defenders and tires them. Wells has electric pace which defenders hate and we know he can finish well, also wells works hard harrying the defence. It is a good system which has served us well and I agree with parky that this is our strongest. This season we have added Connell and Thompson who both in fairness offer more than Hannah. So unless we change our style if play to suit Ross it is best to move him on, but my argument was only we have never really been able to see a fully fit Hannah long enough with a few games under his belt to make a fair assessment. Unless like KMC we all watch the reserves every game to evaluate him
No mention of IMO anywhere in that post Waynus so it must be all facts then. Hanson a poor finisher is he? Is that a fact...
[quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickyoi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: He only ever started four times for city in the league. Twice being subbed and once injured. He has played less than six hours football for city giving him a goal ratio of one goal every two hours of football. That is one goal every game and half roughly speaking. So tell me how many goals per minutes on the pitch is Hanson's strike rate[/p][/quote]He scored 2 league goals for City...Oxford and Morcambe. Only other goal was in Cup vs Wombles. If you include the cup goal though you need to include cup appearances which makes 3 goals in 27 appearances. SO I repeat; "not for City he hasn't". Still don't get where you and Waynus believe he just hasn't had any chances. Perhaps if you went to more games you would realise he has had plenty of opportunities and just hasn't done enough to earn more time on the pitch.[/p][/quote]Your a right Rodney trotter you aren't you. So when you count his appearances six minutes here or ten minutes there is a full game and therefore a chance. He played less than six hours football for city whether he had 27 matches ir not. He was only on the pitch for less than four games in total. If you want to put the two jpt games in alongside the ten minutes in the capitol one then he still played only six full games in terms of minutes on the pitch giving him 3 goals in nine hours of football,which is still a better strike rate than Hanson[/p][/quote]Putting Hanson to one side do you think Hannah's 3 goals in 9 hours is enough for us to give him more game time? I'm not being argumentative I just would like to know what you think.[/p][/quote]No I don't think of you being argumentative, for the record it isn't a bad return for minutes on the pitch. But and its a big but, the way we as a team play we need more than goals from our strikers. Hanson who is a poor finisher to be fair makes up for that with unbelievable work rate, his physical presence unsettles defenders and tires them. Wells has electric pace which defenders hate and we know he can finish well, also wells works hard harrying the defence. It is a good system which has served us well and I agree with parky that this is our strongest. This season we have added Connell and Thompson who both in fairness offer more than Hannah. So unless we change our style if play to suit Ross it is best to move him on, but my argument was only we have never really been able to see a fully fit Hannah long enough with a few games under his belt to make a fair assessment. Unless like KMC we all watch the reserves every game to evaluate him[/p][/quote]No mention of IMO anywhere in that post Waynus so it must be all facts then. Hanson a poor finisher is he? Is that a fact... KnightMcCall

10:00am Sat 12 Jan 13

macca1969 says...

KnightMcCall wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
mickyoi wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
He only ever started four times for city in the league. Twice being subbed and once injured. He has played less than six hours football for city giving him a goal ratio of one goal every two hours of football. That is one goal every game and half roughly speaking. So tell me how many goals per minutes on the pitch is Hanson's strike rate
He scored 2 league goals for City...Oxford and Morcambe. Only other goal was in Cup vs Wombles. If you include the cup goal though you need to include cup appearances which makes 3 goals in 27 appearances. SO I repeat; "not for City he hasn't".

Still don't get where you and Waynus believe he just hasn't had any chances. Perhaps if you went to more games you would realise he has had plenty of opportunities and just hasn't done enough to earn more time on the pitch.
Your a right Rodney trotter you aren't you. So when you count his appearances six minutes here or ten minutes there is a full game and therefore a chance. He played less than six hours football for city whether he had 27 matches ir not. He was only on the pitch for less than four games in total. If you want to put the two jpt games in alongside the ten minutes in the capitol one then he still played only six full games in terms of minutes on the pitch giving him 3 goals in nine hours of football,which is still a better strike rate than Hanson
Putting Hanson to one side do you think Hannah's 3 goals in 9 hours is enough for us to give him more game time? I'm not being argumentative I just would like to know what you think.
No I don't think of you being argumentative, for the record it isn't a bad return for minutes on the pitch. But and its a big but, the way we as a team play we need more than goals from our strikers. Hanson who is a poor finisher to be fair makes up for that with unbelievable work rate, his physical presence unsettles defenders and tires them. Wells has electric pace which defenders hate and we know he can finish well, also wells works hard harrying the defence. It is a good system which has served us well and I agree with parky that this is our strongest. This season we have added Connell and Thompson who both in fairness offer more than Hannah. So unless we change our style if play to suit Ross it is best to move him on, but my argument was only we have never really been able to see a fully fit Hannah long enough with a few games under his belt to make a fair assessment. Unless like KMC we all watch the reserves every game to evaluate him
No mention of IMO anywhere in that post Waynus so it must be all facts then. Hanson a poor finisher is he? Is that a fact...
Again it wasn't waynus who said that ut was me. By the way Hanson has missed some right sitters this season with head and feet. Two goals in 24 games when his own manager and himself has said he has had good chances, good chances I have seen him have also, so unless he is deliberately missing them one would logically see that his finishing is poor. Look at vale at home on his good foot, morcambe recently, in fact too many to put all down. If he wasn't missing them why has his manager criticised it, also his captain and himself. Luckily he brings more to the table than goals and he still warrants a place in the side but although you watch a totally different game to the rest of us you really can't believe he is a good finisher
[quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickyoi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: He only ever started four times for city in the league. Twice being subbed and once injured. He has played less than six hours football for city giving him a goal ratio of one goal every two hours of football. That is one goal every game and half roughly speaking. So tell me how many goals per minutes on the pitch is Hanson's strike rate[/p][/quote]He scored 2 league goals for City...Oxford and Morcambe. Only other goal was in Cup vs Wombles. If you include the cup goal though you need to include cup appearances which makes 3 goals in 27 appearances. SO I repeat; "not for City he hasn't". Still don't get where you and Waynus believe he just hasn't had any chances. Perhaps if you went to more games you would realise he has had plenty of opportunities and just hasn't done enough to earn more time on the pitch.[/p][/quote]Your a right Rodney trotter you aren't you. So when you count his appearances six minutes here or ten minutes there is a full game and therefore a chance. He played less than six hours football for city whether he had 27 matches ir not. He was only on the pitch for less than four games in total. If you want to put the two jpt games in alongside the ten minutes in the capitol one then he still played only six full games in terms of minutes on the pitch giving him 3 goals in nine hours of football,which is still a better strike rate than Hanson[/p][/quote]Putting Hanson to one side do you think Hannah's 3 goals in 9 hours is enough for us to give him more game time? I'm not being argumentative I just would like to know what you think.[/p][/quote]No I don't think of you being argumentative, for the record it isn't a bad return for minutes on the pitch. But and its a big but, the way we as a team play we need more than goals from our strikers. Hanson who is a poor finisher to be fair makes up for that with unbelievable work rate, his physical presence unsettles defenders and tires them. Wells has electric pace which defenders hate and we know he can finish well, also wells works hard harrying the defence. It is a good system which has served us well and I agree with parky that this is our strongest. This season we have added Connell and Thompson who both in fairness offer more than Hannah. So unless we change our style if play to suit Ross it is best to move him on, but my argument was only we have never really been able to see a fully fit Hannah long enough with a few games under his belt to make a fair assessment. Unless like KMC we all watch the reserves every game to evaluate him[/p][/quote]No mention of IMO anywhere in that post Waynus so it must be all facts then. Hanson a poor finisher is he? Is that a fact...[/p][/quote]Again it wasn't waynus who said that ut was me. By the way Hanson has missed some right sitters this season with head and feet. Two goals in 24 games when his own manager and himself has said he has had good chances, good chances I have seen him have also, so unless he is deliberately missing them one would logically see that his finishing is poor. Look at vale at home on his good foot, morcambe recently, in fact too many to put all down. If he wasn't missing them why has his manager criticised it, also his captain and himself. Luckily he brings more to the table than goals and he still warrants a place in the side but although you watch a totally different game to the rest of us you really can't believe he is a good finisher macca1969

10:10am Sat 12 Jan 13

macca1969 says...

KnightMcCall wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
Birky_Neil wrote:
mickyoi wrote: Thank god for that. At least we don't have to listen to all his lovers banging on about how amazing he is and should be playing for us every week. Conference is his level. Good luck to the lad though, hope he does well for them. Just not good enough to get in our team.
And how the hell do u know he is not good enough when he has never been given a chance idiot.
He made 19 appearances for City. I saw most of them. He wasn't good enough. Time to move on.
B0ll0x fella. Yes, he may have made 19 appearances, but how many of those were just 5 mins here and there? How many minutes did he ACTUALLY spend on the pitch? More importantly, how many CONSECUTIVE games did he play for us? ANY striker would struggle to be consistent with a start here, five mins there and a couple of months not getting off the bench....! You didn't rate him, fair enough, but lets stop this "FACT" that he isn't good enough to play at this level. Hopefully Grimsby will get promoted and then we will finally be able to judge, once and for all, whether he can cut it at this level...!
Where do I state it is a fact? It is my opinion that he is not good enough and the "fact" that he got so little time in the first team shows what the management and coaching staff thought too. Perhaps I am just more astute than you are at gauging the quality of a player; like Will Atkinson for a start. You slated him after less time on the pitch than Ross has had and YOU WERE WRONG. It is possible that Ross will prove me wrong; i am happy to wait and see. Compare the impact that Ross had in those 19 appearances with the impact that Wells had in the equivalent number of minutes on the pitch. I've seen Hannah play enough to know that i'm pleased he is now a Grimsby player. Next time that you state that a player is good/bad/indifferent I will be happy to quiz you on the number of minutes you have watched them play to form that opinion. As for hoping Grimsby win promotion so that we get to see how he performs in League 2; try reading the response I gave to your brother...where i said exactly the same thing.
WRONG AGAIN FELLA!!! I was one of a minority that actually rated Atkinson. Said so when he signed and continually defended him throughout the season. Have a look back and then you can apologise. As with any player, I may have slated a performance, but I NEVER said he wasn't good enough!!!

As for the fact, it isn't a 'fact' that Hannah isn't good enough and is proven by the amount of time on the pitch. The 'fact' is that Wells (who Hannah was in direct competition with) deserved his place, thus there was no room for Hannah to start. Wells has been excellent, but that doesn't automatically mean that Hannah isn't good enough for League2. He just wasn't good enough to oust Wells.....!

In the above (response) post, you have claimed it is your opinion that Hannah wasn't good enough. However, in your original post, you never mentioned "in your opinion", thus implying it was a fact and not an opinion. Let me remind you what you typed, "He made 19 appearances for City. I saw most of them. He wasn't good enough". NO REFERNCE TO THIS JUST BEING YOUR OPINION...!

I hadn't read any other posts, I simply read the initial one and clicked 'reply'. You may have changed your opinion/quote, but by citing PP's decision not to play him, indicates that that isn't the case.

Wells is a completely different player to Hannah and thus will obviously have chance to make a different kind of impact. Hannah's record isn't much different to Connell's (for example) and I would argue that they have had a similar impact. Are you saying Connell (with his impact vs mins on pitch) is also not good enough...?
Waynus. I assume that you are bright enough to understand that any statement regarding how good a player is can only ever be an opinion. I cannot state as a fact that Ross isnt good enough; it must be an opinion. It should not need referencing as my opinion unless you are a bit slow. Why havent you picked up Macca for stating Ross WILL score goals in this division (twice)....he cannot possibly know this!
Again read it again, i don't say he will I say if IF GRIMSBY GET PROMOTION AND THEN SCORES PLENTY WHAT WILL THAT PROVE. I WILL POST THE ORIGINAL COMMENT TO CLARIFY. MY POINT WAS ONLY OUR SYSTEM WAS SET UP G
FOR HANNAH'S STYLE IF PLAY SO IT WAS HARSH TO JUDGE. NOT COMMENTING AGAIN THIS I AGREE HAS GOT STUPID
[quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Birky_Neil[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickyoi[/bold] wrote: Thank god for that. At least we don't have to listen to all his lovers banging on about how amazing he is and should be playing for us every week. Conference is his level. Good luck to the lad though, hope he does well for them. Just not good enough to get in our team.[/p][/quote]And how the hell do u know he is not good enough when he has never been given a chance idiot.[/p][/quote]He made 19 appearances for City. I saw most of them. He wasn't good enough. Time to move on.[/p][/quote]B0ll0x fella. Yes, he may have made 19 appearances, but how many of those were just 5 mins here and there? How many minutes did he ACTUALLY spend on the pitch? More importantly, how many CONSECUTIVE games did he play for us? ANY striker would struggle to be consistent with a start here, five mins there and a couple of months not getting off the bench....! You didn't rate him, fair enough, but lets stop this "FACT" that he isn't good enough to play at this level. Hopefully Grimsby will get promoted and then we will finally be able to judge, once and for all, whether he can cut it at this level...![/p][/quote]Where do I state it is a fact? It is my opinion that he is not good enough and the "fact" that he got so little time in the first team shows what the management and coaching staff thought too. Perhaps I am just more astute than you are at gauging the quality of a player; like Will Atkinson for a start. You slated him after less time on the pitch than Ross has had and YOU WERE WRONG. It is possible that Ross will prove me wrong; i am happy to wait and see. Compare the impact that Ross had in those 19 appearances with the impact that Wells had in the equivalent number of minutes on the pitch. I've seen Hannah play enough to know that i'm pleased he is now a Grimsby player. Next time that you state that a player is good/bad/indifferent I will be happy to quiz you on the number of minutes you have watched them play to form that opinion. As for hoping Grimsby win promotion so that we get to see how he performs in League 2; try reading the response I gave to your brother...where i said exactly the same thing.[/p][/quote]WRONG AGAIN FELLA!!! I was one of a minority that actually rated Atkinson. Said so when he signed and continually defended him throughout the season. Have a look back and then you can apologise. As with any player, I may have slated a performance, but I NEVER said he wasn't good enough!!! As for the fact, it isn't a 'fact' that Hannah isn't good enough and is proven by the amount of time on the pitch. The 'fact' is that Wells (who Hannah was in direct competition with) deserved his place, thus there was no room for Hannah to start. Wells has been excellent, but that doesn't automatically mean that Hannah isn't good enough for League2. He just wasn't good enough to oust Wells.....! In the above (response) post, you have claimed it is your opinion that Hannah wasn't good enough. However, in your original post, you never mentioned "in your opinion", thus implying it was a fact and not an opinion. Let me remind you what you typed, "He made 19 appearances for City. I saw most of them. He wasn't good enough". NO REFERNCE TO THIS JUST BEING YOUR OPINION...! I hadn't read any other posts, I simply read the initial one and clicked 'reply'. You may have changed your opinion/quote, but by citing PP's decision not to play him, indicates that that isn't the case. Wells is a completely different player to Hannah and thus will obviously have chance to make a different kind of impact. Hannah's record isn't much different to Connell's (for example) and I would argue that they have had a similar impact. Are you saying Connell (with his impact vs mins on pitch) is also not good enough...?[/p][/quote]Waynus. I assume that you are bright enough to understand that any statement regarding how good a player is can only ever be an opinion. I cannot state as a fact that Ross isnt good enough; it must be an opinion. It should not need referencing as my opinion unless you are a bit slow. Why havent you picked up Macca for stating Ross WILL score goals in this division (twice)....he cannot possibly know this![/p][/quote]Again read it again, i don't say he will I say if IF GRIMSBY GET PROMOTION AND THEN SCORES PLENTY WHAT WILL THAT PROVE. I WILL POST THE ORIGINAL COMMENT TO CLARIFY. MY POINT WAS ONLY OUR SYSTEM WAS SET UP G FOR HANNAH'S STYLE IF PLAY SO IT WAS HARSH TO JUDGE. NOT COMMENTING AGAIN THIS I AGREE HAS GOT STUPID macca1969

10:13am Sat 12 Jan 13

macca1969 says...

macca1969 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
If Ross gets Grimsby promoted then scores plenty next season in league two what will that prove? Nothing only his face didn't fit here or should I say his style if play. Its not that he isn't good enough only that we as a club don't play the style of football suited to Ross. I'm hoping they get promoted and Ross wins the league two golden boot next season to shut some of you lot up.
. To say he is rubbish at this level just because he doesn't suit or fit into our system is a disgrace. Good luck Ross I hope you get to shut a few up on here but not at our expense I hope
We can all have an opinion macca. If you think Hannah is good enough for league 2 then fair enough. It seems that some of us believe he has limitations and the concept of him banging in lots of goals in this division is highly unlikely. No point arguing about the future. You think he will score lots of goals in league football in future...noted. I dont. lets see what happens.BTW good luck to Ross...he deserves success.
I'm all for opinions and I'm not saying he will score loads just he never got the chance. He is a goalscorer and offers little else whereas parky prefers a work horse who scores very little, which is fine as the system with wells getting the goals is working. Only thing I'm knocking is why people have to knock the guy when he has less than six hours football to prove his worth. Why do people on here think the conference is so poor. How many league teams cone straight back? Why do most of the promoted teams always seem to fare well and in recent years finish higher than our team in the league if the gulf is so massive. He will score goals in league two with Grimsby if they are promoted because they will play to his strengths. Parkinson as only ever praised the lad and his attitude
There you go both out original quotes with me never saying he WILL score loads. Have a good day and lets hope we get three points I'm sure we can agree on that
[quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: If Ross gets Grimsby promoted then scores plenty next season in league two what will that prove? Nothing only his face didn't fit here or should I say his style if play. Its not that he isn't good enough only that we as a club don't play the style of football suited to Ross. I'm hoping they get promoted and Ross wins the league two golden boot next season to shut some of you lot up. . To say he is rubbish at this level just because he doesn't suit or fit into our system is a disgrace. Good luck Ross I hope you get to shut a few up on here but not at our expense I hope[/p][/quote]We can all have an opinion macca. If you think Hannah is good enough for league 2 then fair enough. It seems that some of us believe he has limitations and the concept of him banging in lots of goals in this division is highly unlikely. No point arguing about the future. You think he will score lots of goals in league football in future...noted. I dont. lets see what happens.BTW good luck to Ross...he deserves success.[/p][/quote]I'm all for opinions and I'm not saying he will score loads just he never got the chance. He is a goalscorer and offers little else whereas parky prefers a work horse who scores very little, which is fine as the system with wells getting the goals is working. Only thing I'm knocking is why people have to knock the guy when he has less than six hours football to prove his worth. Why do people on here think the conference is so poor. How many league teams cone straight back? Why do most of the promoted teams always seem to fare well and in recent years finish higher than our team in the league if the gulf is so massive. He will score goals in league two with Grimsby if they are promoted because they will play to his strengths. Parkinson as only ever praised the lad and his attitude[/p][/quote]There you go both out original quotes with me never saying he WILL score loads. Have a good day and lets hope we get three points I'm sure we can agree on that macca1969

10:19am Sat 12 Jan 13

macca1969 says...

macca1969 wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
If Ross gets Grimsby promoted then scores plenty next season in league two what will that prove? Nothing only his face didn't fit here or should I say his style if play. Its not that he isn't good enough only that we as a club don't play the style of football suited to Ross. I'm hoping they get promoted and Ross wins the league two golden boot next season to shut some of you lot up.
. To say he is rubbish at this level just because he doesn't suit or fit into our system is a disgrace. Good luck Ross I hope you get to shut a few up on here but not at our expense I hope
We can all have an opinion macca. If you think Hannah is good enough for league 2 then fair enough. It seems that some of us believe he has limitations and the concept of him banging in lots of goals in this division is highly unlikely. No point arguing about the future. You think he will score lots of goals in league football in future...noted. I dont. lets see what happens.BTW good luck to Ross...he deserves success.
I'm all for opinions and I'm not saying he will score loads just he never got the chance. He is a goalscorer and offers little else whereas parky prefers a work horse who scores very little, which is fine as the system with wells getting the goals is working. Only thing I'm knocking is why people have to knock the guy when he has less than six hours football to prove his worth. Why do people on here think the conference is so poor. How many league teams cone straight back? Why do most of the promoted teams always seem to fare well and in recent years finish higher than our team in the league if the gulf is so massive. He will score goals in league two with Grimsby if they are promoted because they will play to his strengths. Parkinson as only ever praised the lad and his attitude
There you go both out original quotes with me never saying he WILL score loads. Have a good day and lets hope we get three points I'm sure we can agree on that
I do apologise I do say he will and I had meant to have said I think he will should they gain promotion and play too his strengths. Sorry for the confusion after all we both are entitled to opinions. Sometimes the forum is hard to follow in the phone
[quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: If Ross gets Grimsby promoted then scores plenty next season in league two what will that prove? Nothing only his face didn't fit here or should I say his style if play. Its not that he isn't good enough only that we as a club don't play the style of football suited to Ross. I'm hoping they get promoted and Ross wins the league two golden boot next season to shut some of you lot up. . To say he is rubbish at this level just because he doesn't suit or fit into our system is a disgrace. Good luck Ross I hope you get to shut a few up on here but not at our expense I hope[/p][/quote]We can all have an opinion macca. If you think Hannah is good enough for league 2 then fair enough. It seems that some of us believe he has limitations and the concept of him banging in lots of goals in this division is highly unlikely. No point arguing about the future. You think he will score lots of goals in league football in future...noted. I dont. lets see what happens.BTW good luck to Ross...he deserves success.[/p][/quote]I'm all for opinions and I'm not saying he will score loads just he never got the chance. He is a goalscorer and offers little else whereas parky prefers a work horse who scores very little, which is fine as the system with wells getting the goals is working. Only thing I'm knocking is why people have to knock the guy when he has less than six hours football to prove his worth. Why do people on here think the conference is so poor. How many league teams cone straight back? Why do most of the promoted teams always seem to fare well and in recent years finish higher than our team in the league if the gulf is so massive. He will score goals in league two with Grimsby if they are promoted because they will play to his strengths. Parkinson as only ever praised the lad and his attitude[/p][/quote]There you go both out original quotes with me never saying he WILL score loads. Have a good day and lets hope we get three points I'm sure we can agree on that[/p][/quote]I do apologise I do say he will and I had meant to have said I think he will should they gain promotion and play too his strengths. Sorry for the confusion after all we both are entitled to opinions. Sometimes the forum is hard to follow in the phone macca1969

12:22pm Sat 12 Jan 13

KnightMcCall says...

macca1969 wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
If Ross gets Grimsby promoted then scores plenty next season in league two what will that prove? Nothing only his face didn't fit here or should I say his style if play. Its not that he isn't good enough only that we as a club don't play the style of football suited to Ross. I'm hoping they get promoted and Ross wins the league two golden boot next season to shut some of you lot up.
. To say he is rubbish at this level just because he doesn't suit or fit into our system is a disgrace. Good luck Ross I hope you get to shut a few up on here but not at our expense I hope
We can all have an opinion macca. If you think Hannah is good enough for league 2 then fair enough. It seems that some of us believe he has limitations and the concept of him banging in lots of goals in this division is highly unlikely. No point arguing about the future. You think he will score lots of goals in league football in future...noted. I dont. lets see what happens.BTW good luck to Ross...he deserves success.
I'm all for opinions and I'm not saying he will score loads just he never got the chance. He is a goalscorer and offers little else whereas parky prefers a work horse who scores very little, which is fine as the system with wells getting the goals is working. Only thing I'm knocking is why people have to knock the guy when he has less than six hours football to prove his worth. Why do people on here think the conference is so poor. How many league teams cone straight back? Why do most of the promoted teams always seem to fare well and in recent years finish higher than our team in the league if the gulf is so massive. He will score goals in league two with Grimsby if they are promoted because they will play to his strengths. Parkinson as only ever praised the lad and his attitude
There you go both out original quotes with me never saying he WILL score loads. Have a good day and lets hope we get three points I'm sure we can agree on that
I do apologise I do say he will and I had meant to have said I think he will should they gain promotion and play too his strengths. Sorry for the confusion after all we both are entitled to opinions. Sometimes the forum is hard to follow in the phone
Yep. weve both cocked this up. Worse for you though cos Waynus knows you and can take the mick directly to your face. I'm never visiting this article again....enjoy the match.
[quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: If Ross gets Grimsby promoted then scores plenty next season in league two what will that prove? Nothing only his face didn't fit here or should I say his style if play. Its not that he isn't good enough only that we as a club don't play the style of football suited to Ross. I'm hoping they get promoted and Ross wins the league two golden boot next season to shut some of you lot up. . To say he is rubbish at this level just because he doesn't suit or fit into our system is a disgrace. Good luck Ross I hope you get to shut a few up on here but not at our expense I hope[/p][/quote]We can all have an opinion macca. If you think Hannah is good enough for league 2 then fair enough. It seems that some of us believe he has limitations and the concept of him banging in lots of goals in this division is highly unlikely. No point arguing about the future. You think he will score lots of goals in league football in future...noted. I dont. lets see what happens.BTW good luck to Ross...he deserves success.[/p][/quote]I'm all for opinions and I'm not saying he will score loads just he never got the chance. He is a goalscorer and offers little else whereas parky prefers a work horse who scores very little, which is fine as the system with wells getting the goals is working. Only thing I'm knocking is why people have to knock the guy when he has less than six hours football to prove his worth. Why do people on here think the conference is so poor. How many league teams cone straight back? Why do most of the promoted teams always seem to fare well and in recent years finish higher than our team in the league if the gulf is so massive. He will score goals in league two with Grimsby if they are promoted because they will play to his strengths. Parkinson as only ever praised the lad and his attitude[/p][/quote]There you go both out original quotes with me never saying he WILL score loads. Have a good day and lets hope we get three points I'm sure we can agree on that[/p][/quote]I do apologise I do say he will and I had meant to have said I think he will should they gain promotion and play too his strengths. Sorry for the confusion after all we both are entitled to opinions. Sometimes the forum is hard to follow in the phone[/p][/quote]Yep. weve both cocked this up. Worse for you though cos Waynus knows you and can take the mick directly to your face. I'm never visiting this article again....enjoy the match. KnightMcCall

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