Bantams chief Mark Lawn takes shot at Bradford Council

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Mark Lawn has urged fans to be realistic about City's chances over two legs against Villa Mark Lawn has urged fans to be realistic about City's chances over two legs against Villa

Mark Lawn today hit out at Bradford Council for their “apathy” over City’s Capital One Cup heroics.

The club have been inundated with messages from well-wishers since shocking Arsenal to book their shot at Aston Villa in the last four.

But joint-chairman Lawn claimed that the local authority have not been among them.

He said: “It’s made a nice change to be getting some positive press for the club and for the city. People forget what the Arsenal result did for Bradford as a city – it lifted everyone.

“It’s just a bit of a shame that the council didn’t react in the same way as everybody else. We’ve had only one letter of congratulation from a councillor, Susan Hinchcliffe.

“Perhaps we are playing with the wrong-shaped ball...

“All our MPs have been in touch to say well done, David Ward, Gerry Sutcliffe and George Galloway and (Bulls owner) Omar Khan was at the game. But nothing from the council as a whole.

“How do you expect to attract businesses into the city centre when the biggest business in the area – and one that brings in a lot of people every other week – gets treated with such apathy?

“As a businessman I was very disappointed with their lack of reaction.”

Lawn is relishing the prospect of another full house at Valley Parade on Tuesday for the first leg. But he warned fans against getting too carried away.

He added: “It’s a lot more difficult over two legs and hopefully we can keep it tight at home and hopefully go down there with something to defend or on an even keel. Then it’s a one-off game and who knows.

“But can I just remind everybody that we are Fourth Division.

“What we have achieved and what Phil (Parkinson) has done is nothing short of miraculous in beating two Premier League sides. The stat that still makes me giggle is that we beat more top flight sides in 2012 than QPR.

“I’m not trying to detract from how well we’ve done but let’s be realistic.

“Aston Villa are a very good Premier League side and are going to give somebody a spanking at some point. We have to make sure that it’s not us.

“It will come together for them and they are going to be a very good young team. They are improving and nearly there and Paul Lambert is a good manager who I’m sure will keep them up this year.”

Meanwhile, defender Curtis Good's loan spell at City has been extended to February 2.

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8:48am Sat 5 Jan 13

rattusrattus says...

Cool Story Mr Lawn! Want a Bradford Council sticker? He He
Cool Story Mr Lawn! Want a Bradford Council sticker? He He rattusrattus
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9:10am Sat 5 Jan 13

ynotdunne says...

I think you mean wrong shaped roof dont you Mr lawn. Council could not care less and we all know it
I think you mean wrong shaped roof dont you Mr lawn. Council could not care less and we all know it ynotdunne
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9:24am Sat 5 Jan 13

huggy b says...

If Bradford's councillors cared about Bradford, Bradford wouldn't be in the state it's in!!!
If Bradford's councillors cared about Bradford, Bradford wouldn't be in the state it's in!!! huggy b
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9:40am Sat 5 Jan 13

djmoulson says...

huggy b wrote:
If Bradford's councillors cared about Bradford, Bradford wouldn't be in the state it's in!!!
Well said Huggyb, I totally agree and agree with ML's sentiments also. Bradford Council ALWAYS seem to be far too late at the party, an in reply there's always a 'reason' for it from the council.

City haven't won any silverware yet this season but they've certainly won many hearts, and put Bradford on the map in a positive sense. Can Bradford Council say the same....? CTID
[quote][p][bold]huggy b[/bold] wrote: If Bradford's councillors cared about Bradford, Bradford wouldn't be in the state it's in!!![/p][/quote]Well said Huggyb, I totally agree and agree with ML's sentiments also. Bradford Council ALWAYS seem to be far too late at the party, an in reply there's always a 'reason' for it from the council. City haven't won any silverware yet this season but they've certainly won many hearts, and put Bradford on the map in a positive sense. Can Bradford Council say the same....? CTID djmoulson
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9:48am Sat 5 Jan 13

JAtkinson says...

I believe a number of cllrs are Bantams fans (I'm not - I play with oddly shaped balls) as opposed to many of the above who have given congratulations. However, I am poisitive that when this cup run ends, hopefully in some silverware, City will be fully thanked, applauded and honoured by the council and all Bradford's citizens, irrespective of spherical ergonomics - I'd certainly hope so.
I believe a number of cllrs are Bantams fans (I'm not - I play with oddly shaped balls) as opposed to many of the above who have given congratulations. However, I am poisitive that when this cup run ends, hopefully in some silverware, City will be fully thanked, applauded and honoured by the council and all Bradford's citizens, irrespective of spherical ergonomics - I'd certainly hope so. JAtkinson
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9:49am Sat 5 Jan 13

bcfc1903 says...

Doesn't surprise me, Bradford Council aren't interested for whatever reason.....not even the present Lord Mayor bothered to congratulate the club. Naveeda Ikram did but she is a class act and as Lord Mayor last year was probably the best we've had since Councillor Olive Messer RIP back in the mid 80's, who did a great job during the aftermath of the Bradford City fire disaster. Regarding the present council...it's a mystery what goes on regarding the Hopkins hole, the Odeon...still waiting for Westfield...they were actually pushing for BCFC moving to Odsal...taking a massive amount of footfall out of the city centre....the impression is that there isn't two braincells to rub together in council chambers....the city fathers, Semon, Behrens, Salt, Unna and Moser who did so much to build the town of Bradford into a great city prior to the first world war must be looking down and weeping.

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Good luck to all involved in the club down at Barnet today...hopefully BCFC will be coming back up the M1 with another three points!!!!!

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We shout with pride...we'll never hide...Claret and Amber.
Doesn't surprise me, Bradford Council aren't interested for whatever reason.....not even the present Lord Mayor bothered to congratulate the club. Naveeda Ikram did but she is a class act and as Lord Mayor last year was probably the best we've had since Councillor Olive Messer RIP back in the mid 80's, who did a great job during the aftermath of the Bradford City fire disaster. Regarding the present council...it's a mystery what goes on regarding the Hopkins hole, the Odeon...still waiting for Westfield...they were actually pushing for BCFC moving to Odsal...taking a massive amount of footfall out of the city centre....the impression is that there isn't two braincells to rub together in council chambers....the city fathers, Semon, Behrens, Salt, Unna and Moser who did so much to build the town of Bradford into a great city prior to the first world war must be looking down and weeping. ** Good luck to all involved in the club down at Barnet today...hopefully BCFC will be coming back up the M1 with another three points!!!!! ** We shout with pride...we'll never hide...Claret and Amber. bcfc1903
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10:01am Sat 5 Jan 13

Babbsy says...

Bradford Council ignore Bradford City AGAIN! Shock horror. Over the past 20 years they've done nothing but attempt to try and hinder the football club's progress - can't recall any kind of support, monetarily or otherwise. All I can remember is no help when we were on the verge of extinction and constant knocking back for planning permission on the ground back in GR's day. A chance to give a bit of support without having to put their own hands in their pockets and they can't even manage that. Pathetic as always.
Bradford Council ignore Bradford City AGAIN! Shock horror. Over the past 20 years they've done nothing but attempt to try and hinder the football club's progress - can't recall any kind of support, monetarily or otherwise. All I can remember is no help when we were on the verge of extinction and constant knocking back for planning permission on the ground back in GR's day. A chance to give a bit of support without having to put their own hands in their pockets and they can't even manage that. Pathetic as always. Babbsy
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10:12am Sat 5 Jan 13

Thee Voice of Reason says...

The council held a civic reception for the pakistani cricket team when they have achieved nothing and were later shown to be a bunch of match fixing cheats and even paid Leeds £50k to hold a test match not even in a Bradford post code.
Whilst the team that represents Bradford gets overlooked.
The council are a joke and they have turned Bradford into a 3rd world lawless slum.
The council held a civic reception for the pakistani cricket team when they have achieved nothing and were later shown to be a bunch of match fixing cheats and even paid Leeds £50k to hold a test match not even in a Bradford post code. Whilst the team that represents Bradford gets overlooked. The council are a joke and they have turned Bradford into a 3rd world lawless slum. Thee Voice of Reason
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10:15am Sat 5 Jan 13

Freddy says...

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All the Bradford Council have achieved --is creating a HUGE HOLE in the middle of the City Centre. All the PRIDE has been taken out of the City, and its residents.
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Bradford City's achievements both past & present have SOLD Bradford to Great Britain.--even The World.
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Bradford Council have SOLD Bradford down the 'Mucky Beck!!". Not many people find The City Centre a welcoming place any more. At Night it becomes a place to be fearful, of what may, and does happen.
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However--WHEN Bradford City AFC --get through to Wembley --on possibly TWO occasions. The Council will then want to climb on the "Band-Waggon" of Publicity.Rather like parasites feed of others success!!!.
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Bradford Council should be ASHAMED of their disgraceful destruction, of what was a Great City.
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The Council will be secretly expecting Bradford City to fail. So they can say " I told you so"--and will have saved any monies, that they may have had to incur, --should " City " achieve further success.
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* All the Bradford Council have achieved --is creating a HUGE HOLE in the middle of the City Centre. All the PRIDE has been taken out of the City, and its residents. * Bradford City's achievements both past & present have SOLD Bradford to Great Britain.--even The World. * Bradford Council have SOLD Bradford down the 'Mucky Beck!!". Not many people find The City Centre a welcoming place any more. At Night it becomes a place to be fearful, of what may, and does happen. * However--WHEN Bradford City AFC --get through to Wembley --on possibly TWO occasions. The Council will then want to climb on the "Band-Waggon" of Publicity.Rather like parasites feed of others success!!!. * Bradford Council should be ASHAMED of their disgraceful destruction, of what was a Great City. * The Council will be secretly expecting Bradford City to fail. So they can say " I told you so"--and will have saved any monies, that they may have had to incur, --should " City " achieve further success. * Freddy
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10:19am Sat 5 Jan 13

Meat Pie says...

You only have to witness the hole in the middle of the city centre and see that one of the UK's largest city centres virtually closes down at night to get a feel for the calibre of people we have running Bradford.

A city run by fools and idiots and doesn't it show.
You only have to witness the hole in the middle of the city centre and see that one of the UK's largest city centres virtually closes down at night to get a feel for the calibre of people we have running Bradford. A city run by fools and idiots and doesn't it show. Meat Pie
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10:21am Sat 5 Jan 13

ALEXIMO.56. says...

Well said Mr Lawn. The Bfd Council have never been bothered about their soccer team. I personally could do without their support as they are just a waste of space. But you can bet your bottom dollar that if we get to Wembley, they will want to get involved in some way just to get a mention or possibly make some money out of it. Sorry but this has nothing to do with football but I've got to get this one in. £24m spent and wasted on a retail park in Centinary sq. on Dancing fountains. The only thing missing is Liberace with his Effin piano and candelabra.
Well said Mr Lawn. The Bfd Council have never been bothered about their soccer team. I personally could do without their support as they are just a waste of space. But you can bet your bottom dollar that if we get to Wembley, they will want to get involved in some way just to get a mention or possibly make some money out of it. Sorry but this has nothing to do with football but I've got to get this one in. £24m spent and wasted on a retail park in Centinary sq. on Dancing fountains. The only thing missing is Liberace with his Effin piano and candelabra. ALEXIMO.56.
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10:39am Sat 5 Jan 13

Toppersutz says...

Bradford Council as never had any interest in promoting sport in Bradford

As a truly wonderful year of sport drew to an end and communities the length and breadth of Britain celebrate their 63 Gold Post Boxes and 185 medal winning citizens the people of Bradford were once again not invited to the party. Not one single citizen of our fair city managed a medal at either the Olympic or Paralympic Games. That the 4th largest metropolitan council in England and Wales can’t supply a single medal winner, and not even a single member of the Olympic GB team for the second games running, is a sad indictment indeed on the state of sports provision in our city.

When asked to justify their position Council Chief Executives for Sport all over the country would no doubt point to their world class sporting facilities and the medal winning citizens they produced. How, I wonder, would Bradford Council Strategic Director for Environment and Sport - Ian Bairstow – justify his position?

At a time when Yorkshire athletes in particular did so well at the Olympics why was Bradford’s performance so, so poor? Can anybody at the council point to one single facility it provides that could be described as world class? I can’t think of any. Without world class facilities you don’t get world class coaches and so you don’t get world class athletes.

I understand that the council alone can’t provide these types of facility and that help has to come from the various national governing bodies for sport, but what is Bradford Council doing to shame all those organisations that are helping to fund facilities in other cities at the expense of our citizens?

Just recently we learnt of declining numbers of swimmers in Bradford and a rising number with obesity problems - it really doesn't take much thinking to connect the two.
Bradford Council as never had any interest in promoting sport in Bradford As a truly wonderful year of sport drew to an end and communities the length and breadth of Britain celebrate their 63 Gold Post Boxes and 185 medal winning citizens the people of Bradford were once again not invited to the party. Not one single citizen of our fair city managed a medal at either the Olympic or Paralympic Games. That the 4th largest metropolitan council in England and Wales can’t supply a single medal winner, and not even a single member of the Olympic GB team for the second games running, is a sad indictment indeed on the state of sports provision in our city. When asked to justify their position Council Chief Executives for Sport all over the country would no doubt point to their world class sporting facilities and the medal winning citizens they produced. How, I wonder, would Bradford Council Strategic Director for Environment and Sport - Ian Bairstow – justify his position? At a time when Yorkshire athletes in particular did so well at the Olympics why was Bradford’s performance so, so poor? Can anybody at the council point to one single facility it provides that could be described as world class? I can’t think of any. Without world class facilities you don’t get world class coaches and so you don’t get world class athletes. I understand that the council alone can’t provide these types of facility and that help has to come from the various national governing bodies for sport, but what is Bradford Council doing to shame all those organisations that are helping to fund facilities in other cities at the expense of our citizens? Just recently we learnt of declining numbers of swimmers in Bradford and a rising number with obesity problems - it really doesn't take much thinking to connect the two. Toppersutz
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10:41am Sat 5 Jan 13

pweibj67 says...

grrr this makes me soo angry!!


Mr Lawn do yo expect our council to just drop everything and praise your insignificant English division 3 club!

I think they have better things to do .. and here is a little list of why we should be proud of our council and not your likkle team!

1/Ensuring our schools continue to remain high up the standards table for the whole country!!! ...Thus ensuring our children are educated ..ensuring companies will invest in the area where there is an intelligent workforce waiting to go!! ... er no wait

2/Continuing to make sure ALL our empty/vacant shops are full to the brim with quality and not succumb to all these common Pound Shops, Pawn shops and vile Bookmakers to ensure we continue to be a thriving town attracting people from afar to visit!! ... mmmm perhaps scrub this one!!

3/Ensuring local companies with nationwide reputations stay in our area making sure we have plenty of jobs in our area .. and bucking the trend for unemployment!! oh not sure i should put this in!

4/Keeping our streets safe thus ensuring we are a place where people want to live .. mmmm okay okay this needs work!!

5/ ok here is their major success!! Bradford house price drop ‘worst in country' ... this is a positive of course as the next headline is 'More Bradford people seeking help on mortgages' .. so its simple .. make houses in Bradford REALLY cheap .. ensuring in the future people will be able to afford their mortgage .. despite losing their job in the area! And of course those who are forced to leave their mortgaged property can live in social housing! .. oh wait .. next headline! 'Bradford housing needs policy review'

6/ The foreign cricket team gala lunch has already been mentioned . this of course achieved a great success in bringing more tourism .. to Leeds!


YES BRADFORD IS BOUNCING BACK!!

queue blinkered council/Bradford loving do gooders telling us what a great city we have .. as we have a MEGA expensive inner city park!
grrr this makes me soo angry!! Mr Lawn do yo expect our council to just drop everything and praise your insignificant English division 3 club! I think they have better things to do .. and here is a little list of why we should be proud of our council and not your likkle team! 1/Ensuring our schools continue to remain high up the standards table for the whole country!!! ...Thus ensuring our children are educated ..ensuring companies will invest in the area where there is an intelligent workforce waiting to go!! ... er no wait 2/Continuing to make sure ALL our empty/vacant shops are full to the brim with quality and not succumb to all these common Pound Shops, Pawn shops and vile Bookmakers to ensure we continue to be a thriving town attracting people from afar to visit!! ... mmmm perhaps scrub this one!! 3/Ensuring local companies with nationwide reputations stay in our area making sure we have plenty of jobs in our area .. and bucking the trend for unemployment!! oh not sure i should put this in! 4/Keeping our streets safe thus ensuring we are a place where people want to live .. mmmm okay okay this needs work!! 5/ ok here is their major success!! Bradford house price drop ‘worst in country' ... this is a positive of course as the next headline is 'More Bradford people seeking help on mortgages' .. so its simple .. make houses in Bradford REALLY cheap .. ensuring in the future people will be able to afford their mortgage .. despite losing their job in the area! And of course those who are forced to leave their mortgaged property can live in social housing! .. oh wait .. next headline! 'Bradford housing needs policy review' 6/ The foreign cricket team gala lunch has already been mentioned . this of course achieved a great success in bringing more tourism .. to Leeds! YES BRADFORD IS BOUNCING BACK!! queue blinkered council/Bradford loving do gooders telling us what a great city we have .. as we have a MEGA expensive inner city park! pweibj67
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11:06am Sat 5 Jan 13

Saltaire Bantam says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
The council held a civic reception for the pakistani cricket team when they have achieved nothing and were later shown to be a bunch of match fixing cheats and even paid Leeds £50k to hold a test match not even in a Bradford post code. Whilst the team that represents Bradford gets overlooked. The council are a joke and they have turned Bradford into a 3rd world lawless slum.
Well said. That £50000 should come out of the councillors wages. By giving away that money they were abusing their powers like dictators in a 3rd world country.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: The council held a civic reception for the pakistani cricket team when they have achieved nothing and were later shown to be a bunch of match fixing cheats and even paid Leeds £50k to hold a test match not even in a Bradford post code. Whilst the team that represents Bradford gets overlooked. The council are a joke and they have turned Bradford into a 3rd world lawless slum.[/p][/quote]Well said. That £50000 should come out of the councillors wages. By giving away that money they were abusing their powers like dictators in a 3rd world country. Saltaire Bantam
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11:11am Sat 5 Jan 13

djmoulson says...

pweibj67 wrote:
grrr this makes me soo angry!!


Mr Lawn do yo expect our council to just drop everything and praise your insignificant English division 3 club!

I think they have better things to do .. and here is a little list of why we should be proud of our council and not your likkle team!

1/Ensuring our schools continue to remain high up the standards table for the whole country!!! ...Thus ensuring our children are educated ..ensuring companies will invest in the area where there is an intelligent workforce waiting to go!! ... er no wait

2/Continuing to make sure ALL our empty/vacant shops are full to the brim with quality and not succumb to all these common Pound Shops, Pawn shops and vile Bookmakers to ensure we continue to be a thriving town attracting people from afar to visit!! ... mmmm perhaps scrub this one!!

3/Ensuring local companies with nationwide reputations stay in our area making sure we have plenty of jobs in our area .. and bucking the trend for unemployment!! oh not sure i should put this in!

4/Keeping our streets safe thus ensuring we are a place where people want to live .. mmmm okay okay this needs work!!

5/ ok here is their major success!! Bradford house price drop ‘worst in country' ... this is a positive of course as the next headline is 'More Bradford people seeking help on mortgages' .. so its simple .. make houses in Bradford REALLY cheap .. ensuring in the future people will be able to afford their mortgage .. despite losing their job in the area! And of course those who are forced to leave their mortgaged property can live in social housing! .. oh wait .. next headline! 'Bradford housing needs policy review'

6/ The foreign cricket team gala lunch has already been mentioned . this of course achieved a great success in bringing more tourism .. to Leeds!


YES BRADFORD IS BOUNCING BACK!!

queue blinkered council/Bradford loving do gooders telling us what a great city we have .. as we have a MEGA expensive inner city park!
pweibj67...two points:

1) Bradford City are a fourth division club.

2) It costs nothing other than 2 minutes of somebody's time to send an official email supporting the success.

The plight that Bradford as a whole is in will not concave even further just by acting on this, it's more a stab at when something goes well, Bradford Council are caught napping. Look at the Prashad Restaurant that moved to an LS postcode after no help from the council to relocate to bigger premises? When there is good, the council let it slip from their grasp, the City is haemorrhaging, money, successful businesses, affluent people, and we see little from the council to stop that decline, but a little sprinkle of success goes a long way!! CTID
[quote][p][bold]pweibj67[/bold] wrote: grrr this makes me soo angry!! Mr Lawn do yo expect our council to just drop everything and praise your insignificant English division 3 club! I think they have better things to do .. and here is a little list of why we should be proud of our council and not your likkle team! 1/Ensuring our schools continue to remain high up the standards table for the whole country!!! ...Thus ensuring our children are educated ..ensuring companies will invest in the area where there is an intelligent workforce waiting to go!! ... er no wait 2/Continuing to make sure ALL our empty/vacant shops are full to the brim with quality and not succumb to all these common Pound Shops, Pawn shops and vile Bookmakers to ensure we continue to be a thriving town attracting people from afar to visit!! ... mmmm perhaps scrub this one!! 3/Ensuring local companies with nationwide reputations stay in our area making sure we have plenty of jobs in our area .. and bucking the trend for unemployment!! oh not sure i should put this in! 4/Keeping our streets safe thus ensuring we are a place where people want to live .. mmmm okay okay this needs work!! 5/ ok here is their major success!! Bradford house price drop ‘worst in country' ... this is a positive of course as the next headline is 'More Bradford people seeking help on mortgages' .. so its simple .. make houses in Bradford REALLY cheap .. ensuring in the future people will be able to afford their mortgage .. despite losing their job in the area! And of course those who are forced to leave their mortgaged property can live in social housing! .. oh wait .. next headline! 'Bradford housing needs policy review' 6/ The foreign cricket team gala lunch has already been mentioned . this of course achieved a great success in bringing more tourism .. to Leeds! YES BRADFORD IS BOUNCING BACK!! queue blinkered council/Bradford loving do gooders telling us what a great city we have .. as we have a MEGA expensive inner city park![/p][/quote]pweibj67...two points: 1) Bradford City are a fourth division club. 2) It costs nothing other than 2 minutes of somebody's time to send an official email supporting the success. The plight that Bradford as a whole is in will not concave even further just by acting on this, it's more a stab at when something goes well, Bradford Council are caught napping. Look at the Prashad Restaurant that moved to an LS postcode after no help from the council to relocate to bigger premises? When there is good, the council let it slip from their grasp, the City is haemorrhaging, money, successful businesses, affluent people, and we see little from the council to stop that decline, but a little sprinkle of success goes a long way!! CTID djmoulson
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11:12am Sat 5 Jan 13

cookie_brighton says...

JAtkinson...........
I would get along to your G.P......playing with odd shaped balls can be painful........ha ha
CTID
JAtkinson........... I would get along to your G.P......playing with odd shaped balls can be painful........ha ha CTID cookie_brighton
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11:13am Sat 5 Jan 13

bcfc1903 says...

pweibj67 wrote:
grrr this makes me soo angry!!


Mr Lawn do yo expect our council to just drop everything and praise your insignificant English division 3 club!

I think they have better things to do .. and here is a little list of why we should be proud of our council and not your likkle team!

1/Ensuring our schools continue to remain high up the standards table for the whole country!!! ...Thus ensuring our children are educated ..ensuring companies will invest in the area where there is an intelligent workforce waiting to go!! ... er no wait

2/Continuing to make sure ALL our empty/vacant shops are full to the brim with quality and not succumb to all these common Pound Shops, Pawn shops and vile Bookmakers to ensure we continue to be a thriving town attracting people from afar to visit!! ... mmmm perhaps scrub this one!!

3/Ensuring local companies with nationwide reputations stay in our area making sure we have plenty of jobs in our area .. and bucking the trend for unemployment!! oh not sure i should put this in!

4/Keeping our streets safe thus ensuring we are a place where people want to live .. mmmm okay okay this needs work!!

5/ ok here is their major success!! Bradford house price drop ‘worst in country' ... this is a positive of course as the next headline is 'More Bradford people seeking help on mortgages' .. so its simple .. make houses in Bradford REALLY cheap .. ensuring in the future people will be able to afford their mortgage .. despite losing their job in the area! And of course those who are forced to leave their mortgaged property can live in social housing! .. oh wait .. next headline! 'Bradford housing needs policy review'

6/ The foreign cricket team gala lunch has already been mentioned . this of course achieved a great success in bringing more tourism .. to Leeds!


YES BRADFORD IS BOUNCING BACK!!

queue blinkered council/Bradford loving do gooders telling us what a great city we have .. as we have a MEGA expensive inner city park!
Bradford is a great city...you can point out the negatives you made in respect to most large cities in the UK. The council is appalling, clueless but Bradford has plenty going for it if you take most of the politicians that do such a poor job of running the city out of the equation.

For it's size Bradford has a lower crime rate than say Manchester and Leeds, footfall in the Bradford city centre is increasing at a great rate bucking the NATIONAL trend....It has over 6,000 listed buildings....it's the home of Bronte Country and the Bronte sisters, it is the first UNESCO City of Film, It is the home of the Media Museum...the Alhambra and potentially a refurbished Odeon building...it has a UNESCO World heritage site in SAltaire. It has some fantastic country side, architecture Little Germany, UK curry champions and a fantastic facility in City Park...not to mention a football team in the semifinal of the League Cup with crowds booming. Yes sporting wise we don't produce at the moment world class athletes but in the field of the arts Bradford has always produced world class artists going all the way back to Sichel, Rothenstein and Ruthereston and more up to date in Hockney and in the music world you have the world class blues rock guitarist Chantel McGregor..
[quote][p][bold]pweibj67[/bold] wrote: grrr this makes me soo angry!! Mr Lawn do yo expect our council to just drop everything and praise your insignificant English division 3 club! I think they have better things to do .. and here is a little list of why we should be proud of our council and not your likkle team! 1/Ensuring our schools continue to remain high up the standards table for the whole country!!! ...Thus ensuring our children are educated ..ensuring companies will invest in the area where there is an intelligent workforce waiting to go!! ... er no wait 2/Continuing to make sure ALL our empty/vacant shops are full to the brim with quality and not succumb to all these common Pound Shops, Pawn shops and vile Bookmakers to ensure we continue to be a thriving town attracting people from afar to visit!! ... mmmm perhaps scrub this one!! 3/Ensuring local companies with nationwide reputations stay in our area making sure we have plenty of jobs in our area .. and bucking the trend for unemployment!! oh not sure i should put this in! 4/Keeping our streets safe thus ensuring we are a place where people want to live .. mmmm okay okay this needs work!! 5/ ok here is their major success!! Bradford house price drop ‘worst in country' ... this is a positive of course as the next headline is 'More Bradford people seeking help on mortgages' .. so its simple .. make houses in Bradford REALLY cheap .. ensuring in the future people will be able to afford their mortgage .. despite losing their job in the area! And of course those who are forced to leave their mortgaged property can live in social housing! .. oh wait .. next headline! 'Bradford housing needs policy review' 6/ The foreign cricket team gala lunch has already been mentioned . this of course achieved a great success in bringing more tourism .. to Leeds! YES BRADFORD IS BOUNCING BACK!! queue blinkered council/Bradford loving do gooders telling us what a great city we have .. as we have a MEGA expensive inner city park![/p][/quote]Bradford is a great city...you can point out the negatives you made in respect to most large cities in the UK. The council is appalling, clueless but Bradford has plenty going for it if you take most of the politicians that do such a poor job of running the city out of the equation. For it's size Bradford has a lower crime rate than say Manchester and Leeds, footfall in the Bradford city centre is increasing at a great rate bucking the NATIONAL trend....It has over 6,000 listed buildings....it's the home of Bronte Country and the Bronte sisters, it is the first UNESCO City of Film, It is the home of the Media Museum...the Alhambra and potentially a refurbished Odeon building...it has a UNESCO World heritage site in SAltaire. It has some fantastic country side, architecture Little Germany, UK curry champions and a fantastic facility in City Park...not to mention a football team in the semifinal of the League Cup with crowds booming. Yes sporting wise we don't produce at the moment world class athletes but in the field of the arts Bradford has always produced world class artists going all the way back to Sichel, Rothenstein and Ruthereston and more up to date in Hockney and in the music world you have the world class blues rock guitarist Chantel McGregor.. bcfc1903
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11:19am Sat 5 Jan 13

Beeceefcee says...

pweibj67 wrote:
grrr this makes me soo angry!!


Mr Lawn do yo expect our council to just drop everything and praise your insignificant English division 3 club!

I think they have better things to do .. and here is a little list of why we should be proud of our council and not your likkle team!

1/Ensuring our schools continue to remain high up the standards table for the whole country!!! ...Thus ensuring our children are educated ..ensuring companies will invest in the area where there is an intelligent workforce waiting to go!! ... er no wait

2/Continuing to make sure ALL our empty/vacant shops are full to the brim with quality and not succumb to all these common Pound Shops, Pawn shops and vile Bookmakers to ensure we continue to be a thriving town attracting people from afar to visit!! ... mmmm perhaps scrub this one!!

3/Ensuring local companies with nationwide reputations stay in our area making sure we have plenty of jobs in our area .. and bucking the trend for unemployment!! oh not sure i should put this in!

4/Keeping our streets safe thus ensuring we are a place where people want to live .. mmmm okay okay this needs work!!

5/ ok here is their major success!! Bradford house price drop ‘worst in country' ... this is a positive of course as the next headline is 'More Bradford people seeking help on mortgages' .. so its simple .. make houses in Bradford REALLY cheap .. ensuring in the future people will be able to afford their mortgage .. despite losing their job in the area! And of course those who are forced to leave their mortgaged property can live in social housing! .. oh wait .. next headline! 'Bradford housing needs policy review'

6/ The foreign cricket team gala lunch has already been mentioned . this of course achieved a great success in bringing more tourism .. to Leeds!


YES BRADFORD IS BOUNCING BACK!!

queue blinkered council/Bradford loving do gooders telling us what a great city we have .. as we have a MEGA expensive inner city park!
Great article! Love the sarcasm!
[quote][p][bold]pweibj67[/bold] wrote: grrr this makes me soo angry!! Mr Lawn do yo expect our council to just drop everything and praise your insignificant English division 3 club! I think they have better things to do .. and here is a little list of why we should be proud of our council and not your likkle team! 1/Ensuring our schools continue to remain high up the standards table for the whole country!!! ...Thus ensuring our children are educated ..ensuring companies will invest in the area where there is an intelligent workforce waiting to go!! ... er no wait 2/Continuing to make sure ALL our empty/vacant shops are full to the brim with quality and not succumb to all these common Pound Shops, Pawn shops and vile Bookmakers to ensure we continue to be a thriving town attracting people from afar to visit!! ... mmmm perhaps scrub this one!! 3/Ensuring local companies with nationwide reputations stay in our area making sure we have plenty of jobs in our area .. and bucking the trend for unemployment!! oh not sure i should put this in! 4/Keeping our streets safe thus ensuring we are a place where people want to live .. mmmm okay okay this needs work!! 5/ ok here is their major success!! Bradford house price drop ‘worst in country' ... this is a positive of course as the next headline is 'More Bradford people seeking help on mortgages' .. so its simple .. make houses in Bradford REALLY cheap .. ensuring in the future people will be able to afford their mortgage .. despite losing their job in the area! And of course those who are forced to leave their mortgaged property can live in social housing! .. oh wait .. next headline! 'Bradford housing needs policy review' 6/ The foreign cricket team gala lunch has already been mentioned . this of course achieved a great success in bringing more tourism .. to Leeds! YES BRADFORD IS BOUNCING BACK!! queue blinkered council/Bradford loving do gooders telling us what a great city we have .. as we have a MEGA expensive inner city park![/p][/quote]Great article! Love the sarcasm! Beeceefcee
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11:23am Sat 5 Jan 13

bcfc1903 says...

Yeah...it's the lowest form of wit lol!!!!!
Yeah...it's the lowest form of wit lol!!!!! bcfc1903
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11:24am Sat 5 Jan 13

Rambo says...

Oh god, not another for/against debate about Bradford AGAIN....

But I will point out the City of Film label means absolutely nothing other than being just, well, a label.
And is the crime rate lower because Leeds/Manchester are much larger cities?

And Im a BCFC ST holder but wouldn't call crowds 'booming' in a half empty stadium.
Oh god, not another for/against debate about Bradford AGAIN.... But I will point out the City of Film label means absolutely nothing other than being just, well, a label. And is the crime rate lower because Leeds/Manchester are much larger cities? And Im a BCFC ST holder but wouldn't call crowds 'booming' in a half empty stadium. Rambo
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11:29am Sat 5 Jan 13

manure says...

Strictly speaking City have not beaten more premier sides than QPR,after 90 mins both games were level.
BUT WHO CARES,well done
Strictly speaking City have not beaten more premier sides than QPR,after 90 mins both games were level. BUT WHO CARES,well done manure
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11:30am Sat 5 Jan 13

bcfc1903 says...

Rambo wrote:
Oh god, not another for/against debate about Bradford AGAIN....

But I will point out the City of Film label means absolutely nothing other than being just, well, a label.
And is the crime rate lower because Leeds/Manchester are much larger cities?

And Im a BCFC ST holder but wouldn't call crowds 'booming' in a half empty stadium.
Haven't you heard of percentages regarding crime rates...surely the two biggest crowds for 50 years suggests crowds are booming...the label UNESCO City of Film actually brings folk and film crews into the city with all the cash that goes with that influx.
[quote][p][bold]Rambo[/bold] wrote: Oh god, not another for/against debate about Bradford AGAIN.... But I will point out the City of Film label means absolutely nothing other than being just, well, a label. And is the crime rate lower because Leeds/Manchester are much larger cities? And Im a BCFC ST holder but wouldn't call crowds 'booming' in a half empty stadium.[/p][/quote]Haven't you heard of percentages regarding crime rates...surely the two biggest crowds for 50 years suggests crowds are booming...the label UNESCO City of Film actually brings folk and film crews into the city with all the cash that goes with that influx. bcfc1903
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11:35am Sat 5 Jan 13

RuggerTyke says...

Bravo Mark Lawn!

A certain Gerry Sutcliffe, he being an ex Sports Minister, epitomises the grievances.

Mark Lawn for office!
Bravo Mark Lawn! A certain Gerry Sutcliffe, he being an ex Sports Minister, epitomises the grievances. Mark Lawn for office! RuggerTyke
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11:38am Sat 5 Jan 13

tyker2 says...

Babbsy wrote:
Bradford Council ignore Bradford City AGAIN! Shock horror. Over the past 20 years they've done nothing but attempt to try and hinder the football club's progress - can't recall any kind of support, monetarily or otherwise. All I can remember is no help when we were on the verge of extinction and constant knocking back for planning permission on the ground back in GR's day. A chance to give a bit of support without having to put their own hands in their pockets and they can't even manage that. Pathetic as always.
more like the last 50 odd year
[quote][p][bold]Babbsy[/bold] wrote: Bradford Council ignore Bradford City AGAIN! Shock horror. Over the past 20 years they've done nothing but attempt to try and hinder the football club's progress - can't recall any kind of support, monetarily or otherwise. All I can remember is no help when we were on the verge of extinction and constant knocking back for planning permission on the ground back in GR's day. A chance to give a bit of support without having to put their own hands in their pockets and they can't even manage that. Pathetic as always.[/p][/quote]more like the last 50 odd year tyker2
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12:12pm Sat 5 Jan 13

BCFCBoothy1 says...

Beeceefcee wrote:
pweibj67 wrote:
grrr this makes me soo angry!!


Mr Lawn do yo expect our council to just drop everything and praise your insignificant English division 3 club!

I think they have better things to do .. and here is a little list of why we should be proud of our council and not your likkle team!

1/Ensuring our schools continue to remain high up the standards table for the whole country!!! ...Thus ensuring our children are educated ..ensuring companies will invest in the area where there is an intelligent workforce waiting to go!! ... er no wait

2/Continuing to make sure ALL our empty/vacant shops are full to the brim with quality and not succumb to all these common Pound Shops, Pawn shops and vile Bookmakers to ensure we continue to be a thriving town attracting people from afar to visit!! ... mmmm perhaps scrub this one!!

3/Ensuring local companies with nationwide reputations stay in our area making sure we have plenty of jobs in our area .. and bucking the trend for unemployment!! oh not sure i should put this in!

4/Keeping our streets safe thus ensuring we are a place where people want to live .. mmmm okay okay this needs work!!

5/ ok here is their major success!! Bradford house price drop ‘worst in country' ... this is a positive of course as the next headline is 'More Bradford people seeking help on mortgages' .. so its simple .. make houses in Bradford REALLY cheap .. ensuring in the future people will be able to afford their mortgage .. despite losing their job in the area! And of course those who are forced to leave their mortgaged property can live in social housing! .. oh wait .. next headline! 'Bradford housing needs policy review'

6/ The foreign cricket team gala lunch has already been mentioned . this of course achieved a great success in bringing more tourism .. to Leeds!


YES BRADFORD IS BOUNCING BACK!!

queue blinkered council/Bradford loving do gooders telling us what a great city we have .. as we have a MEGA expensive inner city park!
Great article! Love the sarcasm!
It would appear to have been lost on some......
It was appreciated here to raise a smile ;o)

CTID
[quote][p][bold]Beeceefcee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pweibj67[/bold] wrote: grrr this makes me soo angry!! Mr Lawn do yo expect our council to just drop everything and praise your insignificant English division 3 club! I think they have better things to do .. and here is a little list of why we should be proud of our council and not your likkle team! 1/Ensuring our schools continue to remain high up the standards table for the whole country!!! ...Thus ensuring our children are educated ..ensuring companies will invest in the area where there is an intelligent workforce waiting to go!! ... er no wait 2/Continuing to make sure ALL our empty/vacant shops are full to the brim with quality and not succumb to all these common Pound Shops, Pawn shops and vile Bookmakers to ensure we continue to be a thriving town attracting people from afar to visit!! ... mmmm perhaps scrub this one!! 3/Ensuring local companies with nationwide reputations stay in our area making sure we have plenty of jobs in our area .. and bucking the trend for unemployment!! oh not sure i should put this in! 4/Keeping our streets safe thus ensuring we are a place where people want to live .. mmmm okay okay this needs work!! 5/ ok here is their major success!! Bradford house price drop ‘worst in country' ... this is a positive of course as the next headline is 'More Bradford people seeking help on mortgages' .. so its simple .. make houses in Bradford REALLY cheap .. ensuring in the future people will be able to afford their mortgage .. despite losing their job in the area! And of course those who are forced to leave their mortgaged property can live in social housing! .. oh wait .. next headline! 'Bradford housing needs policy review' 6/ The foreign cricket team gala lunch has already been mentioned . this of course achieved a great success in bringing more tourism .. to Leeds! YES BRADFORD IS BOUNCING BACK!! queue blinkered council/Bradford loving do gooders telling us what a great city we have .. as we have a MEGA expensive inner city park![/p][/quote]Great article! Love the sarcasm![/p][/quote]It would appear to have been lost on some...... It was appreciated here to raise a smile ;o) CTID BCFCBoothy1
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12:30pm Sat 5 Jan 13

Rambo says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
Rambo wrote:
Oh god, not another for/against debate about Bradford AGAIN....

But I will point out the City of Film label means absolutely nothing other than being just, well, a label.
And is the crime rate lower because Leeds/Manchester are much larger cities?

And Im a BCFC ST holder but wouldn't call crowds 'booming' in a half empty stadium.
Haven't you heard of percentages regarding crime rates...surely the two biggest crowds for 50 years suggests crowds are booming...the label UNESCO City of Film actually brings folk and film crews into the city with all the cash that goes with that influx.
1. Crime - you never mentioned percentages/relative figures. If so then fair enough. I assumed you just meant flat out numbers.

2. No crowds are not booming - it implies a fair few people are coming out of the woodwork or only there because of the opposition. Even after the euphoria of the Arsenal game the attendance was slightly higher at 11,000 in the next home league game. Our home record was one of if not the best until the Rochdale game. Where were any the 10,000 extra fans for these league games?

3. The City of Film label - does it really do what you say? Do you have any facts/figures to back that statement up about film crews and cash? And don't use the Media Museum/Film Festival to prop it up, they were already well established.
Apart from The Kings Speech, what else has there REALLY been in 3 1/2 years?

As regarding the original story, the council only show interest when we've actually won something. They barely show any genuine interest and really don't want or need their false praise.
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rambo[/bold] wrote: Oh god, not another for/against debate about Bradford AGAIN.... But I will point out the City of Film label means absolutely nothing other than being just, well, a label. And is the crime rate lower because Leeds/Manchester are much larger cities? And Im a BCFC ST holder but wouldn't call crowds 'booming' in a half empty stadium.[/p][/quote]Haven't you heard of percentages regarding crime rates...surely the two biggest crowds for 50 years suggests crowds are booming...the label UNESCO City of Film actually brings folk and film crews into the city with all the cash that goes with that influx.[/p][/quote]1. Crime - you never mentioned percentages/relative figures. If so then fair enough. I assumed you just meant flat out numbers. 2. No crowds are not booming - it implies a fair few people are coming out of the woodwork or only there because of the opposition. Even after the euphoria of the Arsenal game the attendance was slightly higher at 11,000 in the next home league game. Our home record was one of if not the best until the Rochdale game. Where were any the 10,000 extra fans for these league games? 3. The City of Film label - does it really do what you say? Do you have any facts/figures to back that statement up about film crews and cash? And don't use the Media Museum/Film Festival to prop it up, they were already well established. Apart from The Kings Speech, what else has there REALLY been in 3 1/2 years? As regarding the original story, the council only show interest when we've actually won something. They barely show any genuine interest and really don't want or need their false praise. Rambo
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12:35pm Sat 5 Jan 13

PHILISAN says...

well a big up to Chantel..stands supreme!
well a big up to Chantel..stands supreme! PHILISAN
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12:37pm Sat 5 Jan 13

shaun from richmond says...

BRADFORD is a DUMP!!....Thats why I moved years ago!!.
Im happy to spend about 3 hours every other week in Bradford, and then get the HELL out of "Dodge"......Hopeful
ly with my Car still intact!.
UP THE CITY!!
BRADFORD is a DUMP!!....Thats why I moved years ago!!. Im happy to spend about 3 hours every other week in Bradford, and then get the HELL out of "Dodge"......Hopeful ly with my Car still intact!. UP THE CITY!! shaun from richmond
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12:41pm Sat 5 Jan 13

bingleybantam-ms54 says...

Well said Sir


You are 100% Right Mr Lawn



The previous guys right too...... the "Councillors" DO NOT care about the city and it is there for all to see.



Plus - Question?...... What the H*ll do these people "do" exactly with the "£Squillions" we spend in rates every year?



The Bradford Metro council pensions must be some of the best around - I make this observation as it certainly doesnt go being spent on the civic infrastructure!




The sad truth for many is that BCFC is the "only" reason anyone I know visits Bradford any more such is the overall state of the place.




The City itself is in an appalling state from the "Vaccum / Hole" that is the City centre to the crumbling and often filthy outskirts beyond + the roads are a disgrace in some parts.




Plus put simply - many people just don't "feel safe" there these days !




Compared with what L**ds have done - over the last 20 years - Bradford as a "City" is frankly a "Joke" - It has a very negative image.




So when for once the "City" - thats the club and the area - gets some priceless positive publicity - What exactly do the council do to "maximise" the situation or assist the Club??? Absolutely ZERO



The matter is shameful as the Bantams have been magnificent in this cup campaign - even making History in beating Arsenal & getting to that semi-final - Utterly Superb.



There is NO WAY this club (given its catchment area and fan base) should be in any league other than the Championship - And if we can keep the progress going under the new management team - there is absolutely NO reason why together we canot get back there - And I truly believe that before too long fellow Bantams - "WE WILL"!



The second coming of...... (what some supporters of a certain age referred to in the 80' as)..........."Banta
m Progressvism" is upon us.




So lets Back the team - Get behind them and "Enjoy the ride"!




One thing's for certain ........ When we "do finally arrive" where we deserve to be ...... It will sure as hell be no thanks to some of the Faceless - Care Less - Dullards ("Do we actually have a footbal team in this City then"?)Councillors ensconsed at "City Hall" BD1



Mr Lawn's comments have "exposed" these people collectively for what they are as regards their support - attitude and commitment towards Bradford City Footbal Club........



....Un-concerned - take everything & give nothing back amateur politicans -



Pathetic!




C-T-I-D - Come on you Bantams !
Well said Sir You are 100% Right Mr Lawn The previous guys right too...... the "Councillors" DO NOT care about the city and it is there for all to see. Plus - Question?...... What the H*ll do these people "do" exactly with the "£Squillions" we spend in rates every year? The Bradford Metro council pensions must be some of the best around - I make this observation as it certainly doesnt go being spent on the civic infrastructure! The sad truth for many is that BCFC is the "only" reason anyone I know visits Bradford any more such is the overall state of the place. The City itself is in an appalling state from the "Vaccum / Hole" that is the City centre to the crumbling and often filthy outskirts beyond + the roads are a disgrace in some parts. Plus put simply - many people just don't "feel safe" there these days ! Compared with what L**ds have done - over the last 20 years - Bradford as a "City" is frankly a "Joke" - It has a very negative image. So when for once the "City" - thats the club and the area - gets some priceless positive publicity - What exactly do the council do to "maximise" the situation or assist the Club??? Absolutely ZERO The matter is shameful as the Bantams have been magnificent in this cup campaign - even making History in beating Arsenal & getting to that semi-final - Utterly Superb. There is NO WAY this club (given its catchment area and fan base) should be in any league other than the Championship - And if we can keep the progress going under the new management team - there is absolutely NO reason why together we canot get back there - And I truly believe that before too long fellow Bantams - "WE WILL"! The second coming of...... (what some supporters of a certain age referred to in the 80' as)..........."Banta m Progressvism" is upon us. So lets Back the team - Get behind them and "Enjoy the ride"! One thing's for certain ........ When we "do finally arrive" where we deserve to be ...... It will sure as hell be no thanks to some of the Faceless - Care Less - Dullards ("Do we actually have a footbal team in this City then"?)Councillors ensconsed at "City Hall" BD1 Mr Lawn's comments have "exposed" these people collectively for what they are as regards their support - attitude and commitment towards Bradford City Footbal Club........ ....Un-concerned - take everything & give nothing back amateur politicans - Pathetic! C-T-I-D - Come on you Bantams ! bingleybantam-ms54
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1:44pm Sat 5 Jan 13

PHILISAN says...

The City of Bradford IS the community and as such BCAFC plays a genuine part in that community and like ALL things Bradford, is entitled to relative support from the City's elected council leaders.Everyone connected with the city of Bradford needs to be a 'team' player to make anything worthwhile work.Community spirit within EVERYONE is a vital requisite to bringing success to the area. 2013 has to be about community reconciliation,bridg
e building and a complete determination to beat all the odds seemingly stacked against us.
So when we reach the end of this year everyone can say that 2013 was THE year that Bradford set an example to its more illustrious neighbours,defied the odds and truly turned a corner.YOUR lead,YOUR legacy,YOUR duty councilors, to honour the privilege of YOUR office. Replace feelings of negativity and doubt, by radically creating a culture of reform that will rebuild faith and seek to instill confidence,envy and pride.The City NEEDS good news more than ever before to help it regain some stature ... so we should promote and celebrate our successes to the max imo.
The City of Bradford IS the community and as such BCAFC plays a genuine part in that community and like ALL things Bradford, is entitled to relative support from the City's elected council leaders.Everyone connected with the city of Bradford needs to be a 'team' player to make anything worthwhile work.Community spirit within EVERYONE is a vital requisite to bringing success to the area. 2013 has to be about community reconciliation,bridg e building and a complete determination to beat all the odds seemingly stacked against us. So when we reach the end of this year everyone can say that 2013 was THE year that Bradford set an example to its more illustrious neighbours,defied the odds and truly turned a corner.YOUR lead,YOUR legacy,YOUR duty councilors, to honour the privilege of YOUR office. Replace feelings of negativity and doubt, by radically creating a culture of reform that will rebuild faith and seek to instill confidence,envy and pride.The City NEEDS good news more than ever before to help it regain some stature ... so we should promote and celebrate our successes to the max imo. PHILISAN
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3:06pm Sat 5 Jan 13

Freddy says...

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pweibj67 says...
10:41am Sat 5 Jan 13
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Yes your sarcasm stands out for ALL to read. But it can be detrimental when Councillors read it to mean their TRUTH!!!.. So I would like to put forward my attempt, at some positive spin, to your comments :-
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" where there is an intelligent workforce waiting to go!!"
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They have already gone!- to other places & Lands of their origin!.
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" to be a thriving town attracting people from afar to visit!! "
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Yes there are a couple of Chinese Restaurants serving expensive stewed food --until 21.30 .The odd strange pub, a Nacho's- with two Witherspoon pubs. A 'Chippy' at the bottom of Sunbridge Road. NONE OF WHICH OPENED ON XMAS DAY. Normal to expect- I suppose!?.But on normal days --What a great choice-- if the TWO MARKETS are not open.
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As to "THE WATER FEATURE" next to the Town Hall and Cop Shop. I notice many youths like to wash in it !! --by laying prone on their backs and playing at making Angel waves etc.

What a shame it is not deeper. We could dump the useless Councillors in to it. --Then the Cops could waste a few Criminals too--by throwing them in--Hand-Cuffed!!. Then again, to try and reap some of the £25 Million Cost. Perhaps it could become an OLYMPIC sized swimming pool !!!!. Then the EGG -Chasers could train there too--it would feel like Odsal ( Sod-Al !!) to them.
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* pweibj67 says... 10:41am Sat 5 Jan 13 * Yes your sarcasm stands out for ALL to read. But it can be detrimental when Councillors read it to mean their TRUTH!!!.. So I would like to put forward my attempt, at some positive spin, to your comments :- * " where there is an intelligent workforce waiting to go!!" * They have already gone!- to other places & Lands of their origin!. * " to be a thriving town attracting people from afar to visit!! " * Yes there are a couple of Chinese Restaurants serving expensive stewed food --until 21.30 .The odd strange pub, a Nacho's- with two Witherspoon pubs. A 'Chippy' at the bottom of Sunbridge Road. NONE OF WHICH OPENED ON XMAS DAY. Normal to expect- I suppose!?.But on normal days --What a great choice-- if the TWO MARKETS are not open. * As to "THE WATER FEATURE" next to the Town Hall and Cop Shop. I notice many youths like to wash in it !! --by laying prone on their backs and playing at making Angel waves etc. What a shame it is not deeper. We could dump the useless Councillors in to it. --Then the Cops could waste a few Criminals too--by throwing them in--Hand-Cuffed!!. Then again, to try and reap some of the £25 Million Cost. Perhaps it could become an OLYMPIC sized swimming pool !!!!. Then the EGG -Chasers could train there too--it would feel like Odsal ( Sod-Al !!) to them. * * . Freddy
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3:35pm Sat 5 Jan 13

Cityman23 says...

Whilst agreeing that Bradford City have undoubtedly given a huge boost to the City/its people recently, I would just like to say the following, in defence of the council.

A) Councillors are preoccupied at the moment desperately trying to mitigate the worst effects of our present govts'. cuts (to local services). These people, often seen as 'easy targets' by the public at large are being forced to cut services, in the knowledge it will be likely THEY who get the blame-NOT central govt.

b) Yes, a letter of congratulations COULD have been sent out, but at the time when City ultimately bow out of the League Cup (or when they win it") is REALLY THE MOST APPROPRIATE TIME TO CONGRATULATE BCAFC FOR ITS EFFORTS (or organise a civic reception for all involved) We've NOT reached that point yet.

c) It seems SOME local politicians have congratulated the club eg Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (in charge of Culture etc-she's THE person with responsibility to comment) so it's not as if there's been no word of praise.

Calm down, Mr L and let's enjoy the big night on Tuesday-I am sure there'll be plenty of councillors in attendance at the match!!
Whilst agreeing that Bradford City have undoubtedly given a huge boost to the City/its people recently, I would just like to say the following, in defence of the council. A) Councillors are preoccupied at the moment desperately trying to mitigate the worst effects of our present govts'. cuts (to local services). These people, often seen as 'easy targets' by the public at large are being forced to cut services, in the knowledge it will be likely THEY who get the blame-NOT central govt. b) Yes, a letter of congratulations COULD have been sent out, but at the time when City ultimately bow out of the League Cup (or when they win it") is REALLY THE MOST APPROPRIATE TIME TO CONGRATULATE BCAFC FOR ITS EFFORTS (or organise a civic reception for all involved) We've NOT reached that point yet. c) It seems SOME local politicians have congratulated the club eg Cllr Susan Hinchcliffe (in charge of Culture etc-she's THE person with responsibility to comment) so it's not as if there's been no word of praise. Calm down, Mr L and let's enjoy the big night on Tuesday-I am sure there'll be plenty of councillors in attendance at the match!! Cityman23
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3:38pm Sat 5 Jan 13

GABRIEL.NORDE says...

The 'council' is the only "BLOT" on this city of ours! When the only SUCCESSFUL sporting team in the city has GIVEN it's people a magical 2012 to remember, are we surprised that the 'council' could'nt even raise a "cheer"?
The 'council' is the only "BLOT" on this city of ours! When the only SUCCESSFUL sporting team in the city has GIVEN it's people a magical 2012 to remember, are we surprised that the 'council' could'nt even raise a "cheer"? GABRIEL.NORDE
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5:39pm Sat 5 Jan 13

Whoisevans? says...

Mark Lawn we want to hear what the club is doing in the transfer market. We all know the Bradford council are like Group 4's and couldn't organize a p*** U* in a Brewery
Mark Lawn we want to hear what the club is doing in the transfer market. We all know the Bradford council are like Group 4's and couldn't organize a p*** U* in a Brewery Whoisevans?
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7:16pm Sat 5 Jan 13

TirNaNog says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
The council held a civic reception for the pakistani cricket team when they have achieved nothing and were later shown to be a bunch of match fixing cheats and even paid Leeds £50k to hold a test match not even in a Bradford post code.
Whilst the team that represents Bradford gets overlooked.
The council are a joke and they have turned Bradford into a 3rd world lawless slum.
Hey up, the drama-queen has got her panties in a bunch again!
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: The council held a civic reception for the pakistani cricket team when they have achieved nothing and were later shown to be a bunch of match fixing cheats and even paid Leeds £50k to hold a test match not even in a Bradford post code. Whilst the team that represents Bradford gets overlooked. The council are a joke and they have turned Bradford into a 3rd world lawless slum.[/p][/quote]Hey up, the drama-queen has got her panties in a bunch again! TirNaNog
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8:13pm Sat 5 Jan 13

rosesrwhite says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
The council held a civic reception for the pakistani cricket team when they have achieved nothing and were later shown to be a bunch of match fixing cheats and even paid Leeds £50k to hold a test match not even in a Bradford post code.
Whilst the team that represents Bradford gets overlooked.
The council are a joke and they have turned Bradford into a 3rd world lawless slum.
Totally agree with this post. This council is an absolute disgrace and shames the people of Bradford. Incompetent, indifferent to the majority and probably corrupt.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: The council held a civic reception for the pakistani cricket team when they have achieved nothing and were later shown to be a bunch of match fixing cheats and even paid Leeds £50k to hold a test match not even in a Bradford post code. Whilst the team that represents Bradford gets overlooked. The council are a joke and they have turned Bradford into a 3rd world lawless slum.[/p][/quote]Totally agree with this post. This council is an absolute disgrace and shames the people of Bradford. Incompetent, indifferent to the majority and probably corrupt. rosesrwhite
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8:17pm Sat 5 Jan 13

rosesrwhite says...

Toppersutz wrote:
Bradford Council as never had any interest in promoting sport in Bradford

As a truly wonderful year of sport drew to an end and communities the length and breadth of Britain celebrate their 63 Gold Post Boxes and 185 medal winning citizens the people of Bradford were once again not invited to the party. Not one single citizen of our fair city managed a medal at either the Olympic or Paralympic Games. That the 4th largest metropolitan council in England and Wales can’t supply a single medal winner, and not even a single member of the Olympic GB team for the second games running, is a sad indictment indeed on the state of sports provision in our city.

When asked to justify their position Council Chief Executives for Sport all over the country would no doubt point to their world class sporting facilities and the medal winning citizens they produced. How, I wonder, would Bradford Council Strategic Director for Environment and Sport - Ian Bairstow – justify his position?

At a time when Yorkshire athletes in particular did so well at the Olympics why was Bradford’s performance so, so poor? Can anybody at the council point to one single facility it provides that could be described as world class? I can’t think of any. Without world class facilities you don’t get world class coaches and so you don’t get world class athletes.

I understand that the council alone can’t provide these types of facility and that help has to come from the various national governing bodies for sport, but what is Bradford Council doing to shame all those organisations that are helping to fund facilities in other cities at the expense of our citizens?

Just recently we learnt of declining numbers of swimmers in Bradford and a rising number with obesity problems - it really doesn't take much thinking to connect the two.
Yes and coupled with the council closing or vastly reducing opening hours at swimming pools...
[quote][p][bold]Toppersutz[/bold] wrote: Bradford Council as never had any interest in promoting sport in Bradford As a truly wonderful year of sport drew to an end and communities the length and breadth of Britain celebrate their 63 Gold Post Boxes and 185 medal winning citizens the people of Bradford were once again not invited to the party. Not one single citizen of our fair city managed a medal at either the Olympic or Paralympic Games. That the 4th largest metropolitan council in England and Wales can’t supply a single medal winner, and not even a single member of the Olympic GB team for the second games running, is a sad indictment indeed on the state of sports provision in our city. When asked to justify their position Council Chief Executives for Sport all over the country would no doubt point to their world class sporting facilities and the medal winning citizens they produced. How, I wonder, would Bradford Council Strategic Director for Environment and Sport - Ian Bairstow – justify his position? At a time when Yorkshire athletes in particular did so well at the Olympics why was Bradford’s performance so, so poor? Can anybody at the council point to one single facility it provides that could be described as world class? I can’t think of any. Without world class facilities you don’t get world class coaches and so you don’t get world class athletes. I understand that the council alone can’t provide these types of facility and that help has to come from the various national governing bodies for sport, but what is Bradford Council doing to shame all those organisations that are helping to fund facilities in other cities at the expense of our citizens? Just recently we learnt of declining numbers of swimmers in Bradford and a rising number with obesity problems - it really doesn't take much thinking to connect the two.[/p][/quote]Yes and coupled with the council closing or vastly reducing opening hours at swimming pools... rosesrwhite
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8:50pm Sat 5 Jan 13

pweibj67 says...

to the people who thought i was being serious???? and those who of you who think 'lol' is an actually word!! .. its called humour!

I am aware of the division my club is in as being a season ticket holder for 30 years.

Re Saltaire ..er again having lived here for the last 10 years ... its a wonderful place. However ask any of us at Fannys and we will say we come from Saltaire not Bradford .. we just happen to pay our tax to them! (ps we may lose our status due to lack of support from the local authority!!)

sorry never heard of The guitarist? Wonder if like Hockney or Priestley they have left to help their career blossom!!!!

And Bradford city centre is increasing at a great rate bucking the NATIONAL trend ? what the £$£"$"£$"£ are you on about .. have you shopped in other cities!!! recently?? or even in Bradford?? ...

sorry to the people who did not quite grasp my sarcastic humour!

also i quite like the multi trillion pound lake/pond/water feature!! and the Buffet .. but tend to avoid the pubs!

but agree it only takes a few minutes to say well done!!

ctid ... coyb ...
to the people who thought i was being serious???? and those who of you who think 'lol' is an actually word!! .. its called humour! I am aware of the division my club is in as being a season ticket holder for 30 years. Re Saltaire ..er again having lived here for the last 10 years ... its a wonderful place. However ask any of us at Fannys and we will say we come from Saltaire not Bradford .. we just happen to pay our tax to them! (ps we may lose our status due to lack of support from the local authority!!) sorry never heard of The guitarist? Wonder if like Hockney or Priestley they have left to help their career blossom!!!! And Bradford city centre is increasing at a great rate bucking the NATIONAL trend ? what the £$£"$"£$"£ are you on about .. have you shopped in other cities!!! recently?? or even in Bradford?? ... sorry to the people who did not quite grasp my sarcastic humour! also i quite like the multi trillion pound lake/pond/water feature!! and the Buffet .. but tend to avoid the pubs! but agree it only takes a few minutes to say well done!! ctid ... coyb ... pweibj67
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9:50pm Sat 5 Jan 13

bcfc1903 says...

Rambo wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Rambo wrote:
Oh god, not another for/against debate about Bradford AGAIN....

But I will point out the City of Film label means absolutely nothing other than being just, well, a label.
And is the crime rate lower because Leeds/Manchester are much larger cities?

And Im a BCFC ST holder but wouldn't call crowds 'booming' in a half empty stadium.
Haven't you heard of percentages regarding crime rates...surely the two biggest crowds for 50 years suggests crowds are booming...the label UNESCO City of Film actually brings folk and film crews into the city with all the cash that goes with that influx.
1. Crime - you never mentioned percentages/relative figures. If so then fair enough. I assumed you just meant flat out numbers.

2. No crowds are not booming - it implies a fair few people are coming out of the woodwork or only there because of the opposition. Even after the euphoria of the Arsenal game the attendance was slightly higher at 11,000 in the next home league game. Our home record was one of if not the best until the Rochdale game. Where were any the 10,000 extra fans for these league games?

3. The City of Film label - does it really do what you say? Do you have any facts/figures to back that statement up about film crews and cash? And don't use the Media Museum/Film Festival to prop it up, they were already well established.
Apart from The Kings Speech, what else has there REALLY been in 3 1/2 years?

As regarding the original story, the council only show interest when we've actually won something. They barely show any genuine interest and really don't want or need their false praise.
How else would you work out the crime rate lol...it's not rocket is it. Yes crowds are booming...didn't the scummers get 11,000 today in the FA cup...what do you call getting 24,000 twice...the best two crowds since 1960 i believe....i suggest your use of the 'it only being a label' to describe Bradford being the first UNESCO City of Film is ill thought and is actually wrong. If you actually read the T&A you'd know the city had been used as a backdrop to quite a few ITV/BBC productions and independent film makers since the City was bestowed as the first UNESCO City of Film. By the way i'll use whatever i want in regards to my reply... i certainly don't need you or anyone else deciding what i do or dont include in my post. As for Bradford Council.....for me they are not credible...the Odeon debacle more or less says everything you need to know about them. Unlike some i haven't got closed mind in regards to what goes on in council chambers and hopefully some of the stuff put in place to help business in the city centre will be a success...the City Park has done far better than i ever thought it would..so maybe they can redeem themselves. The city centre was doing a roaring trade before and after Christmas...stores on North Parade were especially busy as they should be at that time of year. Footfall in Bradford i gather is on the increase which is not the case in most High Streets.
[quote][p][bold]Rambo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rambo[/bold] wrote: Oh god, not another for/against debate about Bradford AGAIN.... But I will point out the City of Film label means absolutely nothing other than being just, well, a label. And is the crime rate lower because Leeds/Manchester are much larger cities? And Im a BCFC ST holder but wouldn't call crowds 'booming' in a half empty stadium.[/p][/quote]Haven't you heard of percentages regarding crime rates...surely the two biggest crowds for 50 years suggests crowds are booming...the label UNESCO City of Film actually brings folk and film crews into the city with all the cash that goes with that influx.[/p][/quote]1. Crime - you never mentioned percentages/relative figures. If so then fair enough. I assumed you just meant flat out numbers. 2. No crowds are not booming - it implies a fair few people are coming out of the woodwork or only there because of the opposition. Even after the euphoria of the Arsenal game the attendance was slightly higher at 11,000 in the next home league game. Our home record was one of if not the best until the Rochdale game. Where were any the 10,000 extra fans for these league games? 3. The City of Film label - does it really do what you say? Do you have any facts/figures to back that statement up about film crews and cash? And don't use the Media Museum/Film Festival to prop it up, they were already well established. Apart from The Kings Speech, what else has there REALLY been in 3 1/2 years? As regarding the original story, the council only show interest when we've actually won something. They barely show any genuine interest and really don't want or need their false praise.[/p][/quote]How else would you work out the crime rate lol...it's not rocket is it. Yes crowds are booming...didn't the scummers get 11,000 today in the FA cup...what do you call getting 24,000 twice...the best two crowds since 1960 i believe....i suggest your use of the 'it only being a label' to describe Bradford being the first UNESCO City of Film is ill thought and is actually wrong. If you actually read the T&A you'd know the city had been used as a backdrop to quite a few ITV/BBC productions and independent film makers since the City was bestowed as the first UNESCO City of Film. By the way i'll use whatever i want in regards to my reply... i certainly don't need you or anyone else deciding what i do or dont include in my post. As for Bradford Council.....for me they are not credible...the Odeon debacle more or less says everything you need to know about them. Unlike some i haven't got closed mind in regards to what goes on in council chambers and hopefully some of the stuff put in place to help business in the city centre will be a success...the City Park has done far better than i ever thought it would..so maybe they can redeem themselves. The city centre was doing a roaring trade before and after Christmas...stores on North Parade were especially busy as they should be at that time of year. Footfall in Bradford i gather is on the increase which is not the case in most High Streets. bcfc1903
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10:09pm Sat 5 Jan 13

bcfc1903 says...

pweibj67 wrote:
to the people who thought i was being serious???? and those who of you who think 'lol' is an actually word!! .. its called humour!

I am aware of the division my club is in as being a season ticket holder for 30 years.

Re Saltaire ..er again having lived here for the last 10 years ... its a wonderful place. However ask any of us at Fannys and we will say we come from Saltaire not Bradford .. we just happen to pay our tax to them! (ps we may lose our status due to lack of support from the local authority!!)

sorry never heard of The guitarist? Wonder if like Hockney or Priestley they have left to help their career blossom!!!!

And Bradford city centre is increasing at a great rate bucking the NATIONAL trend ? what the £$£"$"£$"£ are you on about .. have you shopped in other cities!!! recently?? or even in Bradford?? ...

sorry to the people who did not quite grasp my sarcastic humour!

also i quite like the multi trillion pound lake/pond/water feature!! and the Buffet .. but tend to avoid the pubs!

but agree it only takes a few minutes to say well done!!

ctid ... coyb ...
I take it this was for me...try quoting..it makes it easier. I said Bradford was bucking the high street trend of lower footfall due to online shopping...i don't actually shop in other cities, i shop in Bradford... without doubt even on the last figures published more money is being spent in Bradford City Centre...i believe Bradford moved from 49th to 44th approx in city centre economys...that was prior to the City Park opening...it's already been noted by the Kirkgate centre that footfall increased on the back of that facility being built. So it doesn't take a genius to work out that another hike in the city centre economy is about to be delivered. Hopefully Saltaire will not lose it's UNESCO World Heritage Site status...that would be a shocking decision, i cannot see that happening..the mill it's self is an absolute gem as is the village, church and victoria hall. J Silver (a great Bradfordian) should have a statue errected for the work he did in bringing the mill back to life. I was born in Shipley and always say i'm a Bradfordian..and proud to be one.
[quote][p][bold]pweibj67[/bold] wrote: to the people who thought i was being serious???? and those who of you who think 'lol' is an actually word!! .. its called humour! I am aware of the division my club is in as being a season ticket holder for 30 years. Re Saltaire ..er again having lived here for the last 10 years ... its a wonderful place. However ask any of us at Fannys and we will say we come from Saltaire not Bradford .. we just happen to pay our tax to them! (ps we may lose our status due to lack of support from the local authority!!) sorry never heard of The guitarist? Wonder if like Hockney or Priestley they have left to help their career blossom!!!! And Bradford city centre is increasing at a great rate bucking the NATIONAL trend ? what the £$£"$"£$"£ are you on about .. have you shopped in other cities!!! recently?? or even in Bradford?? ... sorry to the people who did not quite grasp my sarcastic humour! also i quite like the multi trillion pound lake/pond/water feature!! and the Buffet .. but tend to avoid the pubs! but agree it only takes a few minutes to say well done!! ctid ... coyb ...[/p][/quote]I take it this was for me...try quoting..it makes it easier. I said Bradford was bucking the high street trend of lower footfall due to online shopping...i don't actually shop in other cities, i shop in Bradford... without doubt even on the last figures published more money is being spent in Bradford City Centre...i believe Bradford moved from 49th to 44th approx in city centre economys...that was prior to the City Park opening...it's already been noted by the Kirkgate centre that footfall increased on the back of that facility being built. So it doesn't take a genius to work out that another hike in the city centre economy is about to be delivered. Hopefully Saltaire will not lose it's UNESCO World Heritage Site status...that would be a shocking decision, i cannot see that happening..the mill it's self is an absolute gem as is the village, church and victoria hall. J Silver (a great Bradfordian) should have a statue errected for the work he did in bringing the mill back to life. I was born in Shipley and always say i'm a Bradfordian..and proud to be one. bcfc1903
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10:58pm Sat 5 Jan 13

Mr Perks says...

Bradford Met haven't supported the football club, for whatever reason, for a long time now. They need to be aware that a successful football league club benefits the city as a whole, not just the club and its fans. For example, Swansea council stated last week that the first season the club entered the Premier league brought £58m into the city. IF City ever get there again, the club should shame the council by reiterating the total lack of support the council has given BCFC. Rugby League/ Bulls could never bring the same level of positive publicity and cash to the city, just look at the amount of good press coverage the club received on the back of the Arsenal win. Bradford as a place hasn't had such 'good news' for years, it's usually more of the same depressing 'feel bad' stories in the press regarding crime and the lack of a shopping centre and to hear that the council hasn't even bothered to congratulate the club is beyond a joke!
Bradford Met haven't supported the football club, for whatever reason, for a long time now. They need to be aware that a successful football league club benefits the city as a whole, not just the club and its fans. For example, Swansea council stated last week that the first season the club entered the Premier league brought £58m into the city. IF City ever get there again, the club should shame the council by reiterating the total lack of support the council has given BCFC. Rugby League/ Bulls could never bring the same level of positive publicity and cash to the city, just look at the amount of good press coverage the club received on the back of the Arsenal win. Bradford as a place hasn't had such 'good news' for years, it's usually more of the same depressing 'feel bad' stories in the press regarding crime and the lack of a shopping centre and to hear that the council hasn't even bothered to congratulate the club is beyond a joke! Mr Perks
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11:25pm Sat 5 Jan 13

chard501 says...

In Bradford the unacceptance has sadly become the acceptable. The westgate farce, uninsured drivers, awful education, blowing money on a fountain, the general unpleasant scruffyness of the shops and people lurking in the centre....in any other city the private sector would tell the council to pull up its socks. In Bradford there is no private sector so there is no council accountability.

I'm not fussed about the council making a football statement, what I want to hear from them is that the number of uninsured drivers on the roads are unacceptable and that they are going to push all resources towards addressing the problems with any cars picked up deposited on the westfield site pending crushing!
In Bradford the unacceptance has sadly become the acceptable. The westgate farce, uninsured drivers, awful education, blowing money on a fountain, the general unpleasant scruffyness of the shops and people lurking in the centre....in any other city the private sector would tell the council to pull up its socks. In Bradford there is no private sector so there is no council accountability. I'm not fussed about the council making a football statement, what I want to hear from them is that the number of uninsured drivers on the roads are unacceptable and that they are going to push all resources towards addressing the problems with any cars picked up deposited on the westfield site pending crushing! chard501
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2:03am Sun 6 Jan 13

alfucham says...

Universal condemnation of the council and state of our once proud city excepting BCFC1903 and the lone council employee Cityman23.

Stop dreaming BCFC1903.

We have our history yes.
The recent history is death of a city.

Dont know where you shopped at christmas.

Leeds and Manchester will have higher crime rates as noone ventures into Bradford much these days and there not coming back.

(they dare not ,even if there was anything left to see or shop at)


UNIVERSAL CONDEMNATION>

WELL SAID LAWNEE>

Summed it up.

And if the Bulls get their hands on any more public money with the professional public money taker now at its helm,SCREAM FOUL

As care homes rot and the homeless list grows daily.

Blo*dy Corruption has seen the death of the old place.

£50 grand to celebrate in Leeds the arrival of a set of corrupt Pakistani"s pretending to play international sport indeed.No Ball my friend.

"whens The Fire "

"Sch...its meant to be a secret until next week"

"when the coach crash?"

When we"ve got the whiplash lawyers set up all around the citygate.

Yes the people round here these days know how to milk the holy cow eh.

What a dump

What a blo*dy country for allowing it to happen Mr Communities minister Fatty Arbuckle former great and Bad man of The City Of Bradford.RIP

Of course it was all in the Allsop Masterplan.

Take out all the Bradfordians and fill it with 3rd world scunners.

A dumping ground for all the countries worst.

Asylum seeking capital of GB.

F***d

Forever through luinatics
Universal condemnation of the council and state of our once proud city excepting BCFC1903 and the lone council employee Cityman23. Stop dreaming BCFC1903. We have our history yes. The recent history is death of a city. Dont know where you shopped at christmas. Leeds and Manchester will have higher crime rates as noone ventures into Bradford much these days and there not coming back. (they dare not ,even if there was anything left to see or shop at) UNIVERSAL CONDEMNATION> WELL SAID LAWNEE> Summed it up. And if the Bulls get their hands on any more public money with the professional public money taker now at its helm,SCREAM FOUL As care homes rot and the homeless list grows daily. Blo*dy Corruption has seen the death of the old place. £50 grand to celebrate in Leeds the arrival of a set of corrupt Pakistani"s pretending to play international sport indeed.No Ball my friend. "whens The Fire " "Sch...its meant to be a secret until next week" "when the coach crash?" When we"ve got the whiplash lawyers set up all around the citygate. Yes the people round here these days know how to milk the holy cow eh. What a dump What a blo*dy country for allowing it to happen Mr Communities minister Fatty Arbuckle former great and Bad man of The City Of Bradford.RIP Of course it was all in the Allsop Masterplan. Take out all the Bradfordians and fill it with 3rd world scunners. A dumping ground for all the countries worst. Asylum seeking capital of GB. F***d Forever through luinatics alfucham
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4:34am Sun 6 Jan 13

Waynus1971 says...

When the fricking Council can't even organise bin collections properly, how can we expect them to praise out football team!

My bin is usually emptied on Tuesdays, but obviously with Christmas and New Year day following on Tuesday, they had to rearrange. Instead of coming 25 December, they came early (Sat 22 Dec), despite the bins only having been emptied 18th.

Because of the Christmas break, we then had to wait 2wks for our next collection. This at the worst period for storing bin bags. They were due to collect today 5 January. They managed to collect from the main road, Fenwick Drive, but ignored all the streets that branch off it.

It is likely that we will now have to wait until our normal collections restart, this being Tues 8th. Meaning it will have been 17days between collections. When you consider we have celebrated Christmas and the new year in that period, it is frankly disgusting....!

And Mark Lawn believes these buffoons are capable of writing a communication praising the football club....?
When the fricking Council can't even organise bin collections properly, how can we expect them to praise out football team! My bin is usually emptied on Tuesdays, but obviously with Christmas and New Year day following on Tuesday, they had to rearrange. Instead of coming 25 December, they came early (Sat 22 Dec), despite the bins only having been emptied 18th. Because of the Christmas break, we then had to wait 2wks for our next collection. This at the worst period for storing bin bags. They were due to collect today 5 January. They managed to collect from the main road, Fenwick Drive, but ignored all the streets that branch off it. It is likely that we will now have to wait until our normal collections restart, this being Tues 8th. Meaning it will have been 17days between collections. When you consider we have celebrated Christmas and the new year in that period, it is frankly disgusting....! And Mark Lawn believes these buffoons are capable of writing a communication praising the football club....? Waynus1971
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10:10am Sun 6 Jan 13

seasonticketholder says...

Jess Oakroyd, the character from the fictional city based, on Bradford, got out in 1929 and left for Canada. His creator JB Priestly and indeed the artist David Hockney, have ‘got out of the City’. Councillors of whichever political view have allowed the city to stagnate, along with the former Mill owners who never replaced archaic machinery therefore making the products dependent on cheap labour. The sad decline of Bradford, is a reflection of apathy, both civic and commercial.

It is my view that the support for Rugby, has been disproportionate. The council always seem to support the Northern/Bulls but did not treat City (or Avenue for that matter) with even-handedness. So the lack of positive response from the council does not surprise me, it is more of the same.

I still feel that councillors should have to justify their views towards City (and other sports clubs). If they are unsupportive you know where to put your X in May. If they are negative, put an alternative 'Bradford City' supporter’s candidate up against them. As little as 100 votes can swing a ward. Perhaps not win the seat, but ensure the candidate that you do not want to win is beaten into second place!

I will not reply to all the above, but if a city has moved up from 49th to 44th, then that is an improvement. But hold on the basis that it is the 7th largest city in the country, then it is a very very poor position!
Jess Oakroyd, the character from the fictional city based, on Bradford, got out in 1929 and left for Canada. His creator JB Priestly and indeed the artist David Hockney, have ‘got out of the City’. Councillors of whichever political view have allowed the city to stagnate, along with the former Mill owners who never replaced archaic machinery therefore making the products dependent on cheap labour. The sad decline of Bradford, is a reflection of apathy, both civic and commercial. It is my view that the support for Rugby, has been disproportionate. The council always seem to support the Northern/Bulls but did not treat City (or Avenue for that matter) with even-handedness. So the lack of positive response from the council does not surprise me, it is more of the same. I still feel that councillors should have to justify their views towards City (and other sports clubs). If they are unsupportive you know where to put your X in May. If they are negative, put an alternative 'Bradford City' supporter’s candidate up against them. As little as 100 votes can swing a ward. Perhaps not win the seat, but ensure the candidate that you do not want to win is beaten into second place! I will not reply to all the above, but if a city has moved up from 49th to 44th, then that is an improvement. But hold on the basis that it is the 7th largest city in the country, then it is a very very poor position! seasonticketholder
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10:37am Sun 6 Jan 13

bcfc1903 says...

alfucham wrote:
Universal condemnation of the council and state of our once proud city excepting BCFC1903 and the lone council employee Cityman23.

Stop dreaming BCFC1903.

We have our history yes.
The recent history is death of a city.

Dont know where you shopped at christmas.

Leeds and Manchester will have higher crime rates as noone ventures into Bradford much these days and there not coming back.

(they dare not ,even if there was anything left to see or shop at)


UNIVERSAL CONDEMNATION>

WELL SAID LAWNEE>

Summed it up.

And if the Bulls get their hands on any more public money with the professional public money taker now at its helm,SCREAM FOUL

As care homes rot and the homeless list grows daily.

Blo*dy Corruption has seen the death of the old place.

£50 grand to celebrate in Leeds the arrival of a set of corrupt Pakistani"s pretending to play international sport indeed.No Ball my friend.

"whens The Fire "

"Sch...its meant to be a secret until next week"

"when the coach crash?"

When we"ve got the whiplash lawyers set up all around the citygate.

Yes the people round here these days know how to milk the holy cow eh.

What a dump

What a blo*dy country for allowing it to happen Mr Communities minister Fatty Arbuckle former great and Bad man of The City Of Bradford.RIP

Of course it was all in the Allsop Masterplan.

Take out all the Bradfordians and fill it with 3rd world scunners.

A dumping ground for all the countries worst.

Asylum seeking capital of GB.

F***d

Forever through luinatics
Surely you cannot see the tripe posted by yourself and others as being representative of the shopping habits of Bradfordians lol...i thought most who posted said tripe worked fo Leeds City Council lol Your posts as usual Alf are full of complete untruths made up by putting a few unfortunate instances in this and many other cities then painting every Bradfordian with the same unfortunate brush. You need to get out more..get around the country because asylum seekers are everywhere. The city footfall is bucking the national trend...yes the city has started from a low position but the facts are there the stats are there...ignore them if you must but it is actually happening...the crowds of shoppers before Christmas were enormous even though the weather was terrible...after Christmas exactly the same...shoulder to shoulder...people were queued to the door in one particular shop on North Parade and Kirkgate was heaving. Yes three years ago Bradford was on it's knees regarding footfall in the city centre but that is certainly not the case now. Read it and weep!!!!
[quote][p][bold]alfucham[/bold] wrote: Universal condemnation of the council and state of our once proud city excepting BCFC1903 and the lone council employee Cityman23. Stop dreaming BCFC1903. We have our history yes. The recent history is death of a city. Dont know where you shopped at christmas. Leeds and Manchester will have higher crime rates as noone ventures into Bradford much these days and there not coming back. (they dare not ,even if there was anything left to see or shop at) UNIVERSAL CONDEMNATION> WELL SAID LAWNEE> Summed it up. And if the Bulls get their hands on any more public money with the professional public money taker now at its helm,SCREAM FOUL As care homes rot and the homeless list grows daily. Blo*dy Corruption has seen the death of the old place. £50 grand to celebrate in Leeds the arrival of a set of corrupt Pakistani"s pretending to play international sport indeed.No Ball my friend. "whens The Fire " "Sch...its meant to be a secret until next week" "when the coach crash?" When we"ve got the whiplash lawyers set up all around the citygate. Yes the people round here these days know how to milk the holy cow eh. What a dump What a blo*dy country for allowing it to happen Mr Communities minister Fatty Arbuckle former great and Bad man of The City Of Bradford.RIP Of course it was all in the Allsop Masterplan. Take out all the Bradfordians and fill it with 3rd world scunners. A dumping ground for all the countries worst. Asylum seeking capital of GB. F***d Forever through luinatics[/p][/quote]Surely you cannot see the tripe posted by yourself and others as being representative of the shopping habits of Bradfordians lol...i thought most who posted said tripe worked fo Leeds City Council lol Your posts as usual Alf are full of complete untruths made up by putting a few unfortunate instances in this and many other cities then painting every Bradfordian with the same unfortunate brush. You need to get out more..get around the country because asylum seekers are everywhere. The city footfall is bucking the national trend...yes the city has started from a low position but the facts are there the stats are there...ignore them if you must but it is actually happening...the crowds of shoppers before Christmas were enormous even though the weather was terrible...after Christmas exactly the same...shoulder to shoulder...people were queued to the door in one particular shop on North Parade and Kirkgate was heaving. Yes three years ago Bradford was on it's knees regarding footfall in the city centre but that is certainly not the case now. Read it and weep!!!! bcfc1903
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10:12pm Sun 6 Jan 13

alfucham says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
alfucham wrote: Universal condemnation of the council and state of our once proud city excepting BCFC1903 and the lone council employee Cityman23. Stop dreaming BCFC1903. We have our history yes. The recent history is death of a city. Dont know where you shopped at christmas. Leeds and Manchester will have higher crime rates as noone ventures into Bradford much these days and there not coming back. (they dare not ,even if there was anything left to see or shop at) UNIVERSAL CONDEMNATION> WELL SAID LAWNEE> Summed it up. And if the Bulls get their hands on any more public money with the professional public money taker now at its helm,SCREAM FOUL As care homes rot and the homeless list grows daily. Blo*dy Corruption has seen the death of the old place. £50 grand to celebrate in Leeds the arrival of a set of corrupt Pakistani"s pretending to play international sport indeed.No Ball my friend. "whens The Fire " "Sch...its meant to be a secret until next week" "when the coach crash?" When we"ve got the whiplash lawyers set up all around the citygate. Yes the people round here these days know how to milk the holy cow eh. What a dump What a blo*dy country for allowing it to happen Mr Communities minister Fatty Arbuckle former great and Bad man of The City Of Bradford.RIP Of course it was all in the Allsop Masterplan. Take out all the Bradfordians and fill it with 3rd world scunners. A dumping ground for all the countries worst. Asylum seeking capital of GB. F***d Forever through luinatics
Surely you cannot see the tripe posted by yourself and others as being representative of the shopping habits of Bradfordians lol...i thought most who posted said tripe worked fo Leeds City Council lol Your posts as usual Alf are full of complete untruths made up by putting a few unfortunate instances in this and many other cities then painting every Bradfordian with the same unfortunate brush. You need to get out more..get around the country because asylum seekers are everywhere. The city footfall is bucking the national trend...yes the city has started from a low position but the facts are there the stats are there...ignore them if you must but it is actually happening...the crowds of shoppers before Christmas were enormous even though the weather was terrible...after Christmas exactly the same...shoulder to shoulder...people were queued to the door in one particular shop on North Parade and Kirkgate was heaving. Yes three years ago Bradford was on it's knees regarding footfall in the city centre but that is certainly not the case now. Read it and weep!!!!
I am sorry we are at odds.

I ventured for a £4 haircut near Oastler and your experience was not matched by the views of The market traders and barber.

I am not alone in my condemnation.

And if the 99 per cent majority who post comment on here see it aswell I do not think you can justify throwing untruth accusations.

The only crowds I saw as usual were those congregating and filling the methodone chemist dispensary near North Parade.

Was that the shop you saw them queuing shoulder to shoulder.

So if this is the case why are all the business that have had representation in the city for some 100 years all finishing in 2012 and closing the doors for the last time.

Fattorinis made the FA Cup your team so proudly won in 1911.

I could go on and on.

I do not tar ALL Bradfordians with the same brush.
The majority of the good will now not set foot.

I would count you as one of the good.

Todays T &a again reports they are breaking into peoples homes with guns to steal £45000 and £60000 of family jewellry.

Why shop at Fattorini"s when we can buy a gun (easily in this town apparently)and take someone elses gold without paying.

Then no doubt smelt it and pawn it in the proliferation of pawn shops around the upper town.

Smell the coffee.

The tripe shop on Carlisle Road (Pie herberts)is sadly gone forever too.
So I dont know where I will get my "tripe" as you eloquently put it in 2013.
Happy New Year Smell the Coffee and good luck on Tuesday
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfucham[/bold] wrote: Universal condemnation of the council and state of our once proud city excepting BCFC1903 and the lone council employee Cityman23. Stop dreaming BCFC1903. We have our history yes. The recent history is death of a city. Dont know where you shopped at christmas. Leeds and Manchester will have higher crime rates as noone ventures into Bradford much these days and there not coming back. (they dare not ,even if there was anything left to see or shop at) UNIVERSAL CONDEMNATION> WELL SAID LAWNEE> Summed it up. And if the Bulls get their hands on any more public money with the professional public money taker now at its helm,SCREAM FOUL As care homes rot and the homeless list grows daily. Blo*dy Corruption has seen the death of the old place. £50 grand to celebrate in Leeds the arrival of a set of corrupt Pakistani"s pretending to play international sport indeed.No Ball my friend. "whens The Fire " "Sch...its meant to be a secret until next week" "when the coach crash?" When we"ve got the whiplash lawyers set up all around the citygate. Yes the people round here these days know how to milk the holy cow eh. What a dump What a blo*dy country for allowing it to happen Mr Communities minister Fatty Arbuckle former great and Bad man of The City Of Bradford.RIP Of course it was all in the Allsop Masterplan. Take out all the Bradfordians and fill it with 3rd world scunners. A dumping ground for all the countries worst. Asylum seeking capital of GB. F***d Forever through luinatics[/p][/quote]Surely you cannot see the tripe posted by yourself and others as being representative of the shopping habits of Bradfordians lol...i thought most who posted said tripe worked fo Leeds City Council lol Your posts as usual Alf are full of complete untruths made up by putting a few unfortunate instances in this and many other cities then painting every Bradfordian with the same unfortunate brush. You need to get out more..get around the country because asylum seekers are everywhere. The city footfall is bucking the national trend...yes the city has started from a low position but the facts are there the stats are there...ignore them if you must but it is actually happening...the crowds of shoppers before Christmas were enormous even though the weather was terrible...after Christmas exactly the same...shoulder to shoulder...people were queued to the door in one particular shop on North Parade and Kirkgate was heaving. Yes three years ago Bradford was on it's knees regarding footfall in the city centre but that is certainly not the case now. Read it and weep!!!![/p][/quote]I am sorry we are at odds. I ventured for a £4 haircut near Oastler and your experience was not matched by the views of The market traders and barber. I am not alone in my condemnation. And if the 99 per cent majority who post comment on here see it aswell I do not think you can justify throwing untruth accusations. The only crowds I saw as usual were those congregating and filling the methodone chemist dispensary near North Parade. Was that the shop you saw them queuing shoulder to shoulder. So if this is the case why are all the business that have had representation in the city for some 100 years all finishing in 2012 and closing the doors for the last time. Fattorinis made the FA Cup your team so proudly won in 1911. I could go on and on. I do not tar ALL Bradfordians with the same brush. The majority of the good will now not set foot. I would count you as one of the good. Todays T &a again reports they are breaking into peoples homes with guns to steal £45000 and £60000 of family jewellry. Why shop at Fattorini"s when we can buy a gun (easily in this town apparently)and take someone elses gold without paying. Then no doubt smelt it and pawn it in the proliferation of pawn shops around the upper town. Smell the coffee. The tripe shop on Carlisle Road (Pie herberts)is sadly gone forever too. So I dont know where I will get my "tripe" as you eloquently put it in 2013. Happy New Year Smell the Coffee and good luck on Tuesday alfucham
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10:29pm Sun 6 Jan 13

alfucham says...

alfucham wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
alfucham wrote: Universal condemnation of the council and state of our once proud city excepting BCFC1903 and the lone council employee Cityman23. Stop dreaming BCFC1903. We have our history yes. The recent history is death of a city. Dont know where you shopped at christmas. Leeds and Manchester will have higher crime rates as noone ventures into Bradford much these days and there not coming back. (they dare not ,even if there was anything left to see or shop at) UNIVERSAL CONDEMNATION> WELL SAID LAWNEE> Summed it up. And if the Bulls get their hands on any more public money with the professional public money taker now at its helm,SCREAM FOUL As care homes rot and the homeless list grows daily. Blo*dy Corruption has seen the death of the old place. £50 grand to celebrate in Leeds the arrival of a set of corrupt Pakistani"s pretending to play international sport indeed.No Ball my friend. "whens The Fire " "Sch...its meant to be a secret until next week" "when the coach crash?" When we"ve got the whiplash lawyers set up all around the citygate. Yes the people round here these days know how to milk the holy cow eh. What a dump What a blo*dy country for allowing it to happen Mr Communities minister Fatty Arbuckle former great and Bad man of The City Of Bradford.RIP Of course it was all in the Allsop Masterplan. Take out all the Bradfordians and fill it with 3rd world scunners. A dumping ground for all the countries worst. Asylum seeking capital of GB. F***d Forever through luinatics
Surely you cannot see the tripe posted by yourself and others as being representative of the shopping habits of Bradfordians lol...i thought most who posted said tripe worked fo Leeds City Council lol Your posts as usual Alf are full of complete untruths made up by putting a few unfortunate instances in this and many other cities then painting every Bradfordian with the same unfortunate brush. You need to get out more..get around the country because asylum seekers are everywhere. The city footfall is bucking the national trend...yes the city has started from a low position but the facts are there the stats are there...ignore them if you must but it is actually happening...the crowds of shoppers before Christmas were enormous even though the weather was terrible...after Christmas exactly the same...shoulder to shoulder...people were queued to the door in one particular shop on North Parade and Kirkgate was heaving. Yes three years ago Bradford was on it's knees regarding footfall in the city centre but that is certainly not the case now. Read it and weep!!!!
I am sorry we are at odds. I ventured for a £4 haircut near Oastler and your experience was not matched by the views of The market traders and barber. I am not alone in my condemnation. And if the 99 per cent majority who post comment on here see it aswell I do not think you can justify throwing untruth accusations. The only crowds I saw as usual were those congregating and filling the methodone chemist dispensary near North Parade. Was that the shop you saw them queuing shoulder to shoulder. So if this is the case why are all the business that have had representation in the city for some 100 years all finishing in 2012 and closing the doors for the last time. Fattorinis made the FA Cup your team so proudly won in 1911. I could go on and on. I do not tar ALL Bradfordians with the same brush. The majority of the good will now not set foot. I would count you as one of the good. Todays T &a again reports they are breaking into peoples homes with guns to steal £45000 and £60000 of family jewellry. Why shop at Fattorini"s when we can buy a gun (easily in this town apparently)and take someone elses gold without paying. Then no doubt smelt it and pawn it in the proliferation of pawn shops around the upper town. Smell the coffee. The tripe shop on Carlisle Road (Pie herberts)is sadly gone forever too. So I dont know where I will get my "tripe" as you eloquently put it in 2013. Happy New Year Smell the Coffee and good luck on Tuesday
Just read in these fine pages the case of a kid who held up or tried to hold up with a fake gun 7 (yes that is seven)shops in one day around our fine and disintegrating city.

Time was when he would have been an exception to the norm.
Now that sort of behaviour is normal.

No doubt he will get a community service order when in times past we were hung for stealing a sheep.

Is this the safe footfall town you see

Looking forward to renewing my friendship on Tuesday with Leigh Palin.

Remember his goal against Everton?

A prodigeous talent that nearly gave the game up at 24.
He thanked me on New years Day for extending his career by 5 years.

Happy Days they were and they look like there returning to the valley at long last.
[quote][p][bold]alfucham[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfucham[/bold] wrote: Universal condemnation of the council and state of our once proud city excepting BCFC1903 and the lone council employee Cityman23. Stop dreaming BCFC1903. We have our history yes. The recent history is death of a city. Dont know where you shopped at christmas. Leeds and Manchester will have higher crime rates as noone ventures into Bradford much these days and there not coming back. (they dare not ,even if there was anything left to see or shop at) UNIVERSAL CONDEMNATION> WELL SAID LAWNEE> Summed it up. And if the Bulls get their hands on any more public money with the professional public money taker now at its helm,SCREAM FOUL As care homes rot and the homeless list grows daily. Blo*dy Corruption has seen the death of the old place. £50 grand to celebrate in Leeds the arrival of a set of corrupt Pakistani"s pretending to play international sport indeed.No Ball my friend. "whens The Fire " "Sch...its meant to be a secret until next week" "when the coach crash?" When we"ve got the whiplash lawyers set up all around the citygate. Yes the people round here these days know how to milk the holy cow eh. What a dump What a blo*dy country for allowing it to happen Mr Communities minister Fatty Arbuckle former great and Bad man of The City Of Bradford.RIP Of course it was all in the Allsop Masterplan. Take out all the Bradfordians and fill it with 3rd world scunners. A dumping ground for all the countries worst. Asylum seeking capital of GB. F***d Forever through luinatics[/p][/quote]Surely you cannot see the tripe posted by yourself and others as being representative of the shopping habits of Bradfordians lol...i thought most who posted said tripe worked fo Leeds City Council lol Your posts as usual Alf are full of complete untruths made up by putting a few unfortunate instances in this and many other cities then painting every Bradfordian with the same unfortunate brush. You need to get out more..get around the country because asylum seekers are everywhere. The city footfall is bucking the national trend...yes the city has started from a low position but the facts are there the stats are there...ignore them if you must but it is actually happening...the crowds of shoppers before Christmas were enormous even though the weather was terrible...after Christmas exactly the same...shoulder to shoulder...people were queued to the door in one particular shop on North Parade and Kirkgate was heaving. Yes three years ago Bradford was on it's knees regarding footfall in the city centre but that is certainly not the case now. Read it and weep!!!![/p][/quote]I am sorry we are at odds. I ventured for a £4 haircut near Oastler and your experience was not matched by the views of The market traders and barber. I am not alone in my condemnation. And if the 99 per cent majority who post comment on here see it aswell I do not think you can justify throwing untruth accusations. The only crowds I saw as usual were those congregating and filling the methodone chemist dispensary near North Parade. Was that the shop you saw them queuing shoulder to shoulder. So if this is the case why are all the business that have had representation in the city for some 100 years all finishing in 2012 and closing the doors for the last time. Fattorinis made the FA Cup your team so proudly won in 1911. I could go on and on. I do not tar ALL Bradfordians with the same brush. The majority of the good will now not set foot. I would count you as one of the good. Todays T &a again reports they are breaking into peoples homes with guns to steal £45000 and £60000 of family jewellry. Why shop at Fattorini"s when we can buy a gun (easily in this town apparently)and take someone elses gold without paying. Then no doubt smelt it and pawn it in the proliferation of pawn shops around the upper town. Smell the coffee. The tripe shop on Carlisle Road (Pie herberts)is sadly gone forever too. So I dont know where I will get my "tripe" as you eloquently put it in 2013. Happy New Year Smell the Coffee and good luck on Tuesday[/p][/quote]Just read in these fine pages the case of a kid who held up or tried to hold up with a fake gun 7 (yes that is seven)shops in one day around our fine and disintegrating city. Time was when he would have been an exception to the norm. Now that sort of behaviour is normal. No doubt he will get a community service order when in times past we were hung for stealing a sheep. Is this the safe footfall town you see Looking forward to renewing my friendship on Tuesday with Leigh Palin. Remember his goal against Everton? A prodigeous talent that nearly gave the game up at 24. He thanked me on New years Day for extending his career by 5 years. Happy Days they were and they look like there returning to the valley at long last. alfucham
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11:11am Mon 7 Jan 13

Andy2010 says...

ynotdunne wrote:
I think you mean wrong shaped roof dont you Mr lawn. Council could not care less and we all know it
Best comment in thread ^^
[quote][p][bold]ynotdunne[/bold] wrote: I think you mean wrong shaped roof dont you Mr lawn. Council could not care less and we all know it[/p][/quote]Best comment in thread ^^ Andy2010
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11:21am Mon 7 Jan 13

Whoisevans? says...

Leigh Palin great player wish we had someone with his talent now, agree with your post we have a council who for some reason cow tow to Luud's. I don't know how they keep getting elected maybe they have a loyal following? It's been the policy of government for sometime now to bring Bradford into the Luud's area administration and lost out on vital funding. We need a council that represents Bradford. Fatty Arbuckle wasn't he Jimmy Clitheroes pal?
Leigh Palin great player wish we had someone with his talent now, agree with your post we have a council who for some reason cow tow to Luud's. I don't know how they keep getting elected maybe they have a loyal following? It's been the policy of government for sometime now to bring Bradford into the Luud's area administration and lost out on vital funding. We need a council that represents Bradford. Fatty Arbuckle wasn't he Jimmy Clitheroes pal? Whoisevans?
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11:41am Mon 7 Jan 13

bcfc1903 says...

alfucham wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
alfucham wrote: Universal condemnation of the council and state of our once proud city excepting BCFC1903 and the lone council employee Cityman23. Stop dreaming BCFC1903. We have our history yes. The recent history is death of a city. Dont know where you shopped at christmas. Leeds and Manchester will have higher crime rates as noone ventures into Bradford much these days and there not coming back. (they dare not ,even if there was anything left to see or shop at) UNIVERSAL CONDEMNATION> WELL SAID LAWNEE> Summed it up. And if the Bulls get their hands on any more public money with the professional public money taker now at its helm,SCREAM FOUL As care homes rot and the homeless list grows daily. Blo*dy Corruption has seen the death of the old place. £50 grand to celebrate in Leeds the arrival of a set of corrupt Pakistani"s pretending to play international sport indeed.No Ball my friend. "whens The Fire " "Sch...its meant to be a secret until next week" "when the coach crash?" When we"ve got the whiplash lawyers set up all around the citygate. Yes the people round here these days know how to milk the holy cow eh. What a dump What a blo*dy country for allowing it to happen Mr Communities minister Fatty Arbuckle former great and Bad man of The City Of Bradford.RIP Of course it was all in the Allsop Masterplan. Take out all the Bradfordians and fill it with 3rd world scunners. A dumping ground for all the countries worst. Asylum seeking capital of GB. F***d Forever through luinatics
Surely you cannot see the tripe posted by yourself and others as being representative of the shopping habits of Bradfordians lol...i thought most who posted said tripe worked fo Leeds City Council lol Your posts as usual Alf are full of complete untruths made up by putting a few unfortunate instances in this and many other cities then painting every Bradfordian with the same unfortunate brush. You need to get out more..get around the country because asylum seekers are everywhere. The city footfall is bucking the national trend...yes the city has started from a low position but the facts are there the stats are there...ignore them if you must but it is actually happening...the crowds of shoppers before Christmas were enormous even though the weather was terrible...after Christmas exactly the same...shoulder to shoulder...people were queued to the door in one particular shop on North Parade and Kirkgate was heaving. Yes three years ago Bradford was on it's knees regarding footfall in the city centre but that is certainly not the case now. Read it and weep!!!!
I am sorry we are at odds.

I ventured for a £4 haircut near Oastler and your experience was not matched by the views of The market traders and barber.

I am not alone in my condemnation.

And if the 99 per cent majority who post comment on here see it aswell I do not think you can justify throwing untruth accusations.

The only crowds I saw as usual were those congregating and filling the methodone chemist dispensary near North Parade.

Was that the shop you saw them queuing shoulder to shoulder.

So if this is the case why are all the business that have had representation in the city for some 100 years all finishing in 2012 and closing the doors for the last time.

Fattorinis made the FA Cup your team so proudly won in 1911.

I could go on and on.

I do not tar ALL Bradfordians with the same brush.
The majority of the good will now not set foot.

I would count you as one of the good.

Todays T &a again reports they are breaking into peoples homes with guns to steal £45000 and £60000 of family jewellry.

Why shop at Fattorini"s when we can buy a gun (easily in this town apparently)and take someone elses gold without paying.

Then no doubt smelt it and pawn it in the proliferation of pawn shops around the upper town.

Smell the coffee.

The tripe shop on Carlisle Road (Pie herberts)is sadly gone forever too.
So I dont know where I will get my "tripe" as you eloquently put it in 2013.
Happy New Year Smell the Coffee and good luck on Tuesday
Alf...try Morrisons..i hear their tripe is nearly as good as yours. I thought Fattorinis moved to Harrogate years ago. Yes you may mock but i've yet to see any drug dealing either locally or further afield...the picture you paint is totally biased and not a true reflection of our fair city in any way shape or form. This forum's posters are not a scientific cross section of Bradfordian shoppers or their shopping habits...some are i'd venture a guess not even Bradfordians and do nothing but run our great city down. If folk want to pay inflated out of town prices good luck to them...i'd rather pay less for the same quality and so do thousands of other Bradfordians who flocked to the city centre shops aound Christmas and New Year.. To every Bradfordian thinking of shopping out of town...try the Kirkgate centre North Parade and the other excellent shops in Darley Street and Forster Square and save hard earned cash for exactly the same quality found at much higher prices else where.
[quote][p][bold]alfucham[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfucham[/bold] wrote: Universal condemnation of the council and state of our once proud city excepting BCFC1903 and the lone council employee Cityman23. Stop dreaming BCFC1903. We have our history yes. The recent history is death of a city. Dont know where you shopped at christmas. Leeds and Manchester will have higher crime rates as noone ventures into Bradford much these days and there not coming back. (they dare not ,even if there was anything left to see or shop at) UNIVERSAL CONDEMNATION> WELL SAID LAWNEE> Summed it up. And if the Bulls get their hands on any more public money with the professional public money taker now at its helm,SCREAM FOUL As care homes rot and the homeless list grows daily. Blo*dy Corruption has seen the death of the old place. £50 grand to celebrate in Leeds the arrival of a set of corrupt Pakistani"s pretending to play international sport indeed.No Ball my friend. "whens The Fire " "Sch...its meant to be a secret until next week" "when the coach crash?" When we"ve got the whiplash lawyers set up all around the citygate. Yes the people round here these days know how to milk the holy cow eh. What a dump What a blo*dy country for allowing it to happen Mr Communities minister Fatty Arbuckle former great and Bad man of The City Of Bradford.RIP Of course it was all in the Allsop Masterplan. Take out all the Bradfordians and fill it with 3rd world scunners. A dumping ground for all the countries worst. Asylum seeking capital of GB. F***d Forever through luinatics[/p][/quote]Surely you cannot see the tripe posted by yourself and others as being representative of the shopping habits of Bradfordians lol...i thought most who posted said tripe worked fo Leeds City Council lol Your posts as usual Alf are full of complete untruths made up by putting a few unfortunate instances in this and many other cities then painting every Bradfordian with the same unfortunate brush. You need to get out more..get around the country because asylum seekers are everywhere. The city footfall is bucking the national trend...yes the city has started from a low position but the facts are there the stats are there...ignore them if you must but it is actually happening...the crowds of shoppers before Christmas were enormous even though the weather was terrible...after Christmas exactly the same...shoulder to shoulder...people were queued to the door in one particular shop on North Parade and Kirkgate was heaving. Yes three years ago Bradford was on it's knees regarding footfall in the city centre but that is certainly not the case now. Read it and weep!!!![/p][/quote]I am sorry we are at odds. I ventured for a £4 haircut near Oastler and your experience was not matched by the views of The market traders and barber. I am not alone in my condemnation. And if the 99 per cent majority who post comment on here see it aswell I do not think you can justify throwing untruth accusations. The only crowds I saw as usual were those congregating and filling the methodone chemist dispensary near North Parade. Was that the shop you saw them queuing shoulder to shoulder. So if this is the case why are all the business that have had representation in the city for some 100 years all finishing in 2012 and closing the doors for the last time. Fattorinis made the FA Cup your team so proudly won in 1911. I could go on and on. I do not tar ALL Bradfordians with the same brush. The majority of the good will now not set foot. I would count you as one of the good. Todays T &a again reports they are breaking into peoples homes with guns to steal £45000 and £60000 of family jewellry. Why shop at Fattorini"s when we can buy a gun (easily in this town apparently)and take someone elses gold without paying. Then no doubt smelt it and pawn it in the proliferation of pawn shops around the upper town. Smell the coffee. The tripe shop on Carlisle Road (Pie herberts)is sadly gone forever too. So I dont know where I will get my "tripe" as you eloquently put it in 2013. Happy New Year Smell the Coffee and good luck on Tuesday[/p][/quote]Alf...try Morrisons..i hear their tripe is nearly as good as yours. I thought Fattorinis moved to Harrogate years ago. Yes you may mock but i've yet to see any drug dealing either locally or further afield...the picture you paint is totally biased and not a true reflection of our fair city in any way shape or form. This forum's posters are not a scientific cross section of Bradfordian shoppers or their shopping habits...some are i'd venture a guess not even Bradfordians and do nothing but run our great city down. If folk want to pay inflated out of town prices good luck to them...i'd rather pay less for the same quality and so do thousands of other Bradfordians who flocked to the city centre shops aound Christmas and New Year.. To every Bradfordian thinking of shopping out of town...try the Kirkgate centre North Parade and the other excellent shops in Darley Street and Forster Square and save hard earned cash for exactly the same quality found at much higher prices else where. bcfc1903
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11:59am Mon 7 Jan 13

Waynus1971 says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
alfucham wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
alfucham wrote: Universal condemnation of the council and state of our once proud city excepting BCFC1903 and the lone council employee Cityman23. Stop dreaming BCFC1903. We have our history yes. The recent history is death of a city. Dont know where you shopped at christmas. Leeds and Manchester will have higher crime rates as noone ventures into Bradford much these days and there not coming back. (they dare not ,even if there was anything left to see or shop at) UNIVERSAL CONDEMNATION> WELL SAID LAWNEE> Summed it up. And if the Bulls get their hands on any more public money with the professional public money taker now at its helm,SCREAM FOUL As care homes rot and the homeless list grows daily. Blo*dy Corruption has seen the death of the old place. £50 grand to celebrate in Leeds the arrival of a set of corrupt Pakistani"s pretending to play international sport indeed.No Ball my friend. "whens The Fire " "Sch...its meant to be a secret until next week" "when the coach crash?" When we"ve got the whiplash lawyers set up all around the citygate. Yes the people round here these days know how to milk the holy cow eh. What a dump What a blo*dy country for allowing it to happen Mr Communities minister Fatty Arbuckle former great and Bad man of The City Of Bradford.RIP Of course it was all in the Allsop Masterplan. Take out all the Bradfordians and fill it with 3rd world scunners. A dumping ground for all the countries worst. Asylum seeking capital of GB. F***d Forever through luinatics
Surely you cannot see the tripe posted by yourself and others as being representative of the shopping habits of Bradfordians lol...i thought most who posted said tripe worked fo Leeds City Council lol Your posts as usual Alf are full of complete untruths made up by putting a few unfortunate instances in this and many other cities then painting every Bradfordian with the same unfortunate brush. You need to get out more..get around the country because asylum seekers are everywhere. The city footfall is bucking the national trend...yes the city has started from a low position but the facts are there the stats are there...ignore them if you must but it is actually happening...the crowds of shoppers before Christmas were enormous even though the weather was terrible...after Christmas exactly the same...shoulder to shoulder...people were queued to the door in one particular shop on North Parade and Kirkgate was heaving. Yes three years ago Bradford was on it's knees regarding footfall in the city centre but that is certainly not the case now. Read it and weep!!!!
I am sorry we are at odds. I ventured for a £4 haircut near Oastler and your experience was not matched by the views of The market traders and barber. I am not alone in my condemnation. And if the 99 per cent majority who post comment on here see it aswell I do not think you can justify throwing untruth accusations. The only crowds I saw as usual were those congregating and filling the methodone chemist dispensary near North Parade. Was that the shop you saw them queuing shoulder to shoulder. So if this is the case why are all the business that have had representation in the city for some 100 years all finishing in 2012 and closing the doors for the last time. Fattorinis made the FA Cup your team so proudly won in 1911. I could go on and on. I do not tar ALL Bradfordians with the same brush. The majority of the good will now not set foot. I would count you as one of the good. Todays T &a again reports they are breaking into peoples homes with guns to steal £45000 and £60000 of family jewellry. Why shop at Fattorini"s when we can buy a gun (easily in this town apparently)and take someone elses gold without paying. Then no doubt smelt it and pawn it in the proliferation of pawn shops around the upper town. Smell the coffee. The tripe shop on Carlisle Road (Pie herberts)is sadly gone forever too. So I dont know where I will get my "tripe" as you eloquently put it in 2013. Happy New Year Smell the Coffee and good luck on Tuesday
Alf...try Morrisons..i hear their tripe is nearly as good as yours. I thought Fattorinis moved to Harrogate years ago. Yes you may mock but i've yet to see any drug dealing either locally or further afield...the picture you paint is totally biased and not a true reflection of our fair city in any way shape or form. This forum's posters are not a scientific cross section of Bradfordian shoppers or their shopping habits...some are i'd venture a guess not even Bradfordians and do nothing but run our great city down. If folk want to pay inflated out of town prices good luck to them...i'd rather pay less for the same quality and so do thousands of other Bradfordians who flocked to the city centre shops aound Christmas and New Year.. To every Bradfordian thinking of shopping out of town...try the Kirkgate centre North Parade and the other excellent shops in Darley Street and Forster Square and save hard earned cash for exactly the same quality found at much higher prices else where.
You are joking right? You are talking about footfall in Bradford city centre increasing and to back up your argument, you refer to the lead up to Christmas and the first few days of sales afterwards. Are those figures actually out yet (officially)?

There may be some decent shops, but if I am serious about doing some shopping, I have to travel between Forster Square and the centre of Bradford. Parking is a nighmare and you want me to try to park in two separate car parks (e.g. JohnStreet and Forster Square)?

Where is there a Debenhams? Where is the choice at M&S? The city is flooded with Pound shops (is this the quality you refer to?), betting shops and poorly kept outlets. I'm sorry if this doesn't please you, but I'd rather go to the White Rose or Meadowhall, than shop in Bradford.

The area around the City Centre Park is lovely and, although I was concerned about the 'waste of money' at the time, it has realy opened up that part of the city. If we can now just do something with the old Odeon site, the old Debenhams/TJ Hughes site and finally get the Westfield shopping centre ready, it would really make a massive improvement.

But don't start this rubbish about it being a great place to shop....cos it aint!!!!
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfucham[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfucham[/bold] wrote: Universal condemnation of the council and state of our once proud city excepting BCFC1903 and the lone council employee Cityman23. Stop dreaming BCFC1903. We have our history yes. The recent history is death of a city. Dont know where you shopped at christmas. Leeds and Manchester will have higher crime rates as noone ventures into Bradford much these days and there not coming back. (they dare not ,even if there was anything left to see or shop at) UNIVERSAL CONDEMNATION> WELL SAID LAWNEE> Summed it up. And if the Bulls get their hands on any more public money with the professional public money taker now at its helm,SCREAM FOUL As care homes rot and the homeless list grows daily. Blo*dy Corruption has seen the death of the old place. £50 grand to celebrate in Leeds the arrival of a set of corrupt Pakistani"s pretending to play international sport indeed.No Ball my friend. "whens The Fire " "Sch...its meant to be a secret until next week" "when the coach crash?" When we"ve got the whiplash lawyers set up all around the citygate. Yes the people round here these days know how to milk the holy cow eh. What a dump What a blo*dy country for allowing it to happen Mr Communities minister Fatty Arbuckle former great and Bad man of The City Of Bradford.RIP Of course it was all in the Allsop Masterplan. Take out all the Bradfordians and fill it with 3rd world scunners. A dumping ground for all the countries worst. Asylum seeking capital of GB. F***d Forever through luinatics[/p][/quote]Surely you cannot see the tripe posted by yourself and others as being representative of the shopping habits of Bradfordians lol...i thought most who posted said tripe worked fo Leeds City Council lol Your posts as usual Alf are full of complete untruths made up by putting a few unfortunate instances in this and many other cities then painting every Bradfordian with the same unfortunate brush. You need to get out more..get around the country because asylum seekers are everywhere. The city footfall is bucking the national trend...yes the city has started from a low position but the facts are there the stats are there...ignore them if you must but it is actually happening...the crowds of shoppers before Christmas were enormous even though the weather was terrible...after Christmas exactly the same...shoulder to shoulder...people were queued to the door in one particular shop on North Parade and Kirkgate was heaving. Yes three years ago Bradford was on it's knees regarding footfall in the city centre but that is certainly not the case now. Read it and weep!!!![/p][/quote]I am sorry we are at odds. I ventured for a £4 haircut near Oastler and your experience was not matched by the views of The market traders and barber. I am not alone in my condemnation. And if the 99 per cent majority who post comment on here see it aswell I do not think you can justify throwing untruth accusations. The only crowds I saw as usual were those congregating and filling the methodone chemist dispensary near North Parade. Was that the shop you saw them queuing shoulder to shoulder. So if this is the case why are all the business that have had representation in the city for some 100 years all finishing in 2012 and closing the doors for the last time. Fattorinis made the FA Cup your team so proudly won in 1911. I could go on and on. I do not tar ALL Bradfordians with the same brush. The majority of the good will now not set foot. I would count you as one of the good. Todays T &a again reports they are breaking into peoples homes with guns to steal £45000 and £60000 of family jewellry. Why shop at Fattorini"s when we can buy a gun (easily in this town apparently)and take someone elses gold without paying. Then no doubt smelt it and pawn it in the proliferation of pawn shops around the upper town. Smell the coffee. The tripe shop on Carlisle Road (Pie herberts)is sadly gone forever too. So I dont know where I will get my "tripe" as you eloquently put it in 2013. Happy New Year Smell the Coffee and good luck on Tuesday[/p][/quote]Alf...try Morrisons..i hear their tripe is nearly as good as yours. I thought Fattorinis moved to Harrogate years ago. Yes you may mock but i've yet to see any drug dealing either locally or further afield...the picture you paint is totally biased and not a true reflection of our fair city in any way shape or form. This forum's posters are not a scientific cross section of Bradfordian shoppers or their shopping habits...some are i'd venture a guess not even Bradfordians and do nothing but run our great city down. If folk want to pay inflated out of town prices good luck to them...i'd rather pay less for the same quality and so do thousands of other Bradfordians who flocked to the city centre shops aound Christmas and New Year.. To every Bradfordian thinking of shopping out of town...try the Kirkgate centre North Parade and the other excellent shops in Darley Street and Forster Square and save hard earned cash for exactly the same quality found at much higher prices else where.[/p][/quote]You are joking right? You are talking about footfall in Bradford city centre increasing and to back up your argument, you refer to the lead up to Christmas and the first few days of sales afterwards. Are those figures actually out yet (officially)? There may be some decent shops, but if I am serious about doing some shopping, I have to travel between Forster Square and the centre of Bradford. Parking is a nighmare and you want me to try to park in two separate car parks (e.g. JohnStreet and Forster Square)? Where is there a Debenhams? Where is the choice at M&S? The city is flooded with Pound shops (is this the quality you refer to?), betting shops and poorly kept outlets. I'm sorry if this doesn't please you, but I'd rather go to the White Rose or Meadowhall, than shop in Bradford. The area around the City Centre Park is lovely and, although I was concerned about the 'waste of money' at the time, it has realy opened up that part of the city. If we can now just do something with the old Odeon site, the old Debenhams/TJ Hughes site and finally get the Westfield shopping centre ready, it would really make a massive improvement. But don't start this rubbish about it being a great place to shop....cos it aint!!!! Waynus1971
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1:07pm Mon 7 Jan 13

tyker2 says...

bottom line is that those chosen to represent us and their appointed highly paid executives and overseen an organised demolition of this once proud city.


George Galloway promised a sweep of city hall. Has it happened? No.... just more empty promises.

So Mr Lawn the apathy is NOT just toward Valley Parade it is more widespread so you must not really feel too aggrieved.
bottom line is that those chosen to represent us and their appointed highly paid executives and overseen an organised demolition of this once proud city. George Galloway promised a sweep of city hall. Has it happened? No.... just more empty promises. So Mr Lawn the apathy is NOT just toward Valley Parade it is more widespread so you must not really feel too aggrieved. tyker2
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5:30pm Mon 7 Jan 13

Sashaboo2005 says...

Well said Mr Lawn . The council are not interested in Bradford City to be honest I don't really know what they are interested in . I moved out of my beloved city a few months ago , it was a hard decision to make but already I feel the right choice was made . Living in a clean prosperous city with virtually no crime & very low unemployment makes you realise how bad Bradford is . I know other big cities have the same problems as Bradford but having visited other other large cities they don't appear to be as bad . I hope one day this once proud city of ours becomes great again & maybe just maybe it will be in the news for all the right reasons .
Well said Mr Lawn . The council are not interested in Bradford City to be honest I don't really know what they are interested in . I moved out of my beloved city a few months ago , it was a hard decision to make but already I feel the right choice was made . Living in a clean prosperous city with virtually no crime & very low unemployment makes you realise how bad Bradford is . I know other big cities have the same problems as Bradford but having visited other other large cities they don't appear to be as bad . I hope one day this once proud city of ours becomes great again & maybe just maybe it will be in the news for all the right reasons . Sashaboo2005
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10:09pm Mon 7 Jan 13

alfucham says...

Whoisevans? wrote:
Leigh Palin great player wish we had someone with his talent now, agree with your post we have a council who for some reason cow tow to Luud's. I don't know how they keep getting elected maybe they have a loyal following? It's been the policy of government for sometime now to bring Bradford into the Luud's area administration and lost out on vital funding. We need a council that represents Bradford. Fatty Arbuckle wasn't he Jimmy Clitheroes pal?
No it was Pickles
[quote][p][bold]Whoisevans?[/bold] wrote: Leigh Palin great player wish we had someone with his talent now, agree with your post we have a council who for some reason cow tow to Luud's. I don't know how they keep getting elected maybe they have a loyal following? It's been the policy of government for sometime now to bring Bradford into the Luud's area administration and lost out on vital funding. We need a council that represents Bradford. Fatty Arbuckle wasn't he Jimmy Clitheroes pal?[/p][/quote]No it was Pickles alfucham
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10:53am Tue 8 Jan 13

bcfc1903 says...

Waynus1971 wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
alfucham wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
alfucham wrote: Universal condemnation of the council and state of our once proud city excepting BCFC1903 and the lone council employee Cityman23. Stop dreaming BCFC1903. We have our history yes. The recent history is death of a city. Dont know where you shopped at christmas. Leeds and Manchester will have higher crime rates as noone ventures into Bradford much these days and there not coming back. (they dare not ,even if there was anything left to see or shop at) UNIVERSAL CONDEMNATION> WELL SAID LAWNEE> Summed it up. And if the Bulls get their hands on any more public money with the professional public money taker now at its helm,SCREAM FOUL As care homes rot and the homeless list grows daily. Blo*dy Corruption has seen the death of the old place. £50 grand to celebrate in Leeds the arrival of a set of corrupt Pakistani"s pretending to play international sport indeed.No Ball my friend. "whens The Fire " "Sch...its meant to be a secret until next week" "when the coach crash?" When we"ve got the whiplash lawyers set up all around the citygate. Yes the people round here these days know how to milk the holy cow eh. What a dump What a blo*dy country for allowing it to happen Mr Communities minister Fatty Arbuckle former great and Bad man of The City Of Bradford.RIP Of course it was all in the Allsop Masterplan. Take out all the Bradfordians and fill it with 3rd world scunners. A dumping ground for all the countries worst. Asylum seeking capital of GB. F***d Forever through luinatics
Surely you cannot see the tripe posted by yourself and others as being representative of the shopping habits of Bradfordians lol...i thought most who posted said tripe worked fo Leeds City Council lol Your posts as usual Alf are full of complete untruths made up by putting a few unfortunate instances in this and many other cities then painting every Bradfordian with the same unfortunate brush. You need to get out more..get around the country because asylum seekers are everywhere. The city footfall is bucking the national trend...yes the city has started from a low position but the facts are there the stats are there...ignore them if you must but it is actually happening...the crowds of shoppers before Christmas were enormous even though the weather was terrible...after Christmas exactly the same...shoulder to shoulder...people were queued to the door in one particular shop on North Parade and Kirkgate was heaving. Yes three years ago Bradford was on it's knees regarding footfall in the city centre but that is certainly not the case now. Read it and weep!!!!
I am sorry we are at odds. I ventured for a £4 haircut near Oastler and your experience was not matched by the views of The market traders and barber. I am not alone in my condemnation. And if the 99 per cent majority who post comment on here see it aswell I do not think you can justify throwing untruth accusations. The only crowds I saw as usual were those congregating and filling the methodone chemist dispensary near North Parade. Was that the shop you saw them queuing shoulder to shoulder. So if this is the case why are all the business that have had representation in the city for some 100 years all finishing in 2012 and closing the doors for the last time. Fattorinis made the FA Cup your team so proudly won in 1911. I could go on and on. I do not tar ALL Bradfordians with the same brush. The majority of the good will now not set foot. I would count you as one of the good. Todays T &a again reports they are breaking into peoples homes with guns to steal £45000 and £60000 of family jewellry. Why shop at Fattorini"s when we can buy a gun (easily in this town apparently)and take someone elses gold without paying. Then no doubt smelt it and pawn it in the proliferation of pawn shops around the upper town. Smell the coffee. The tripe shop on Carlisle Road (Pie herberts)is sadly gone forever too. So I dont know where I will get my "tripe" as you eloquently put it in 2013. Happy New Year Smell the Coffee and good luck on Tuesday
Alf...try Morrisons..i hear their tripe is nearly as good as yours. I thought Fattorinis moved to Harrogate years ago. Yes you may mock but i've yet to see any drug dealing either locally or further afield...the picture you paint is totally biased and not a true reflection of our fair city in any way shape or form. This forum's posters are not a scientific cross section of Bradfordian shoppers or their shopping habits...some are i'd venture a guess not even Bradfordians and do nothing but run our great city down. If folk want to pay inflated out of town prices good luck to them...i'd rather pay less for the same quality and so do thousands of other Bradfordians who flocked to the city centre shops aound Christmas and New Year.. To every Bradfordian thinking of shopping out of town...try the Kirkgate centre North Parade and the other excellent shops in Darley Street and Forster Square and save hard earned cash for exactly the same quality found at much higher prices else where.
You are joking right? You are talking about footfall in Bradford city centre increasing and to back up your argument, you refer to the lead up to Christmas and the first few days of sales afterwards. Are those figures actually out yet (officially)?

There may be some decent shops, but if I am serious about doing some shopping, I have to travel between Forster Square and the centre of Bradford. Parking is a nighmare and you want me to try to park in two separate car parks (e.g. JohnStreet and Forster Square)?

Where is there a Debenhams? Where is the choice at M&S? The city is flooded with Pound shops (is this the quality you refer to?), betting shops and poorly kept outlets. I'm sorry if this doesn't please you, but I'd rather go to the White Rose or Meadowhall, than shop in Bradford.

The area around the City Centre Park is lovely and, although I was concerned about the 'waste of money' at the time, it has realy opened up that part of the city. If we can now just do something with the old Odeon site, the old Debenhams/TJ Hughes site and finally get the Westfield shopping centre ready, it would really make a massive improvement.

But don't start this rubbish about it being a great place to shop....cos it aint!!!!
No ...i'm not joking... are you. You really do need to read what i said. The last figures released approx three years ago regarding Bradford city centre's economy showed an increase in money spent in it's retail outlets and an increase in it's position ....Bradford went up five positions...granted from a poor starting position. That was prior to the City Park opening.....there has been according to the council and the Kirkgate centre a marked increase in footfall since then. We're always shopping in Bradford and we have noticed an increase in folk in the city centre over the last three years.... for me the last 18 months has seen a large increase in folk using the city centre and it's shops. Prior to the last three years for me the city centre was on it's knees...but that certainly isn't the case now. I've never understood the argument about pound shops...for me they serve folk like any other shop does, although there are far too many betting shops. We love the Bradford hand made shop at the bottom of Ivegate and the household store on North Parade is a treasure. I don't doubt you've had problems parking but we either get the train in or park in Forster Square retail park, two hours free parking . This isn't rubbish unlike alot of the tripe(Alf loves his tripe lol) posted on this thread, we as a family enjoy shopping in Bradford...but i do agree with you about the City Park...i too doubted the idea behind building it but have been pleasantly surprised...and agree 100% with your sentiments regarding Sunwin House, the Odeon and Westfield. Yes Bradford could do with more quality retail outlets but most folk can get everything they need when shopping in Bradford. We find it very economic to shop there and also find it a friendly and safe place to shop.
[quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfucham[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfucham[/bold] wrote: Universal condemnation of the council and state of our once proud city excepting BCFC1903 and the lone council employee Cityman23. Stop dreaming BCFC1903. We have our history yes. The recent history is death of a city. Dont know where you shopped at christmas. Leeds and Manchester will have higher crime rates as noone ventures into Bradford much these days and there not coming back. (they dare not ,even if there was anything left to see or shop at) UNIVERSAL CONDEMNATION> WELL SAID LAWNEE> Summed it up. And if the Bulls get their hands on any more public money with the professional public money taker now at its helm,SCREAM FOUL As care homes rot and the homeless list grows daily. Blo*dy Corruption has seen the death of the old place. £50 grand to celebrate in Leeds the arrival of a set of corrupt Pakistani"s pretending to play international sport indeed.No Ball my friend. "whens The Fire " "Sch...its meant to be a secret until next week" "when the coach crash?" When we"ve got the whiplash lawyers set up all around the citygate. Yes the people round here these days know how to milk the holy cow eh. What a dump What a blo*dy country for allowing it to happen Mr Communities minister Fatty Arbuckle former great and Bad man of The City Of Bradford.RIP Of course it was all in the Allsop Masterplan. Take out all the Bradfordians and fill it with 3rd world scunners. A dumping ground for all the countries worst. Asylum seeking capital of GB. F***d Forever through luinatics[/p][/quote]Surely you cannot see the tripe posted by yourself and others as being representative of the shopping habits of Bradfordians lol...i thought most who posted said tripe worked fo Leeds City Council lol Your posts as usual Alf are full of complete untruths made up by putting a few unfortunate instances in this and many other cities then painting every Bradfordian with the same unfortunate brush. You need to get out more..get around the country because asylum seekers are everywhere. The city footfall is bucking the national trend...yes the city has started from a low position but the facts are there the stats are there...ignore them if you must but it is actually happening...the crowds of shoppers before Christmas were enormous even though the weather was terrible...after Christmas exactly the same...shoulder to shoulder...people were queued to the door in one particular shop on North Parade and Kirkgate was heaving. Yes three years ago Bradford was on it's knees regarding footfall in the city centre but that is certainly not the case now. Read it and weep!!!![/p][/quote]I am sorry we are at odds. I ventured for a £4 haircut near Oastler and your experience was not matched by the views of The market traders and barber. I am not alone in my condemnation. And if the 99 per cent majority who post comment on here see it aswell I do not think you can justify throwing untruth accusations. The only crowds I saw as usual were those congregating and filling the methodone chemist dispensary near North Parade. Was that the shop you saw them queuing shoulder to shoulder. So if this is the case why are all the business that have had representation in the city for some 100 years all finishing in 2012 and closing the doors for the last time. Fattorinis made the FA Cup your team so proudly won in 1911. I could go on and on. I do not tar ALL Bradfordians with the same brush. The majority of the good will now not set foot. I would count you as one of the good. Todays T &a again reports they are breaking into peoples homes with guns to steal £45000 and £60000 of family jewellry. Why shop at Fattorini"s when we can buy a gun (easily in this town apparently)and take someone elses gold without paying. Then no doubt smelt it and pawn it in the proliferation of pawn shops around the upper town. Smell the coffee. The tripe shop on Carlisle Road (Pie herberts)is sadly gone forever too. So I dont know where I will get my "tripe" as you eloquently put it in 2013. Happy New Year Smell the Coffee and good luck on Tuesday[/p][/quote]Alf...try Morrisons..i hear their tripe is nearly as good as yours. I thought Fattorinis moved to Harrogate years ago. Yes you may mock but i've yet to see any drug dealing either locally or further afield...the picture you paint is totally biased and not a true reflection of our fair city in any way shape or form. This forum's posters are not a scientific cross section of Bradfordian shoppers or their shopping habits...some are i'd venture a guess not even Bradfordians and do nothing but run our great city down. If folk want to pay inflated out of town prices good luck to them...i'd rather pay less for the same quality and so do thousands of other Bradfordians who flocked to the city centre shops aound Christmas and New Year.. To every Bradfordian thinking of shopping out of town...try the Kirkgate centre North Parade and the other excellent shops in Darley Street and Forster Square and save hard earned cash for exactly the same quality found at much higher prices else where.[/p][/quote]You are joking right? You are talking about footfall in Bradford city centre increasing and to back up your argument, you refer to the lead up to Christmas and the first few days of sales afterwards. Are those figures actually out yet (officially)? There may be some decent shops, but if I am serious about doing some shopping, I have to travel between Forster Square and the centre of Bradford. Parking is a nighmare and you want me to try to park in two separate car parks (e.g. JohnStreet and Forster Square)? Where is there a Debenhams? Where is the choice at M&S? The city is flooded with Pound shops (is this the quality you refer to?), betting shops and poorly kept outlets. I'm sorry if this doesn't please you, but I'd rather go to the White Rose or Meadowhall, than shop in Bradford. The area around the City Centre Park is lovely and, although I was concerned about the 'waste of money' at the time, it has realy opened up that part of the city. If we can now just do something with the old Odeon site, the old Debenhams/TJ Hughes site and finally get the Westfield shopping centre ready, it would really make a massive improvement. But don't start this rubbish about it being a great place to shop....cos it aint!!!![/p][/quote]No ...i'm not joking... are you. You really do need to read what i said. The last figures released approx three years ago regarding Bradford city centre's economy showed an increase in money spent in it's retail outlets and an increase in it's position ....Bradford went up five positions...granted from a poor starting position. That was prior to the City Park opening.....there has been according to the council and the Kirkgate centre a marked increase in footfall since then. We're always shopping in Bradford and we have noticed an increase in folk in the city centre over the last three years.... for me the last 18 months has seen a large increase in folk using the city centre and it's shops. Prior to the last three years for me the city centre was on it's knees...but that certainly isn't the case now. I've never understood the argument about pound shops...for me they serve folk like any other shop does, although there are far too many betting shops. We love the Bradford hand made shop at the bottom of Ivegate and the household store on North Parade is a treasure. I don't doubt you've had problems parking but we either get the train in or park in Forster Square retail park, two hours free parking . This isn't rubbish unlike alot of the tripe(Alf loves his tripe lol) posted on this thread, we as a family enjoy shopping in Bradford...but i do agree with you about the City Park...i too doubted the idea behind building it but have been pleasantly surprised...and agree 100% with your sentiments regarding Sunwin House, the Odeon and Westfield. Yes Bradford could do with more quality retail outlets but most folk can get everything they need when shopping in Bradford. We find it very economic to shop there and also find it a friendly and safe place to shop. bcfc1903
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7:06pm Tue 8 Jan 13

The obvious says...

Sod the support of this corrupt local authority.

City deserves recognition on its own merits.

Keep up the good work city.

Glory loving councillors and MPs can simply f off
Sod the support of this corrupt local authority. City deserves recognition on its own merits. Keep up the good work city. Glory loving councillors and MPs can simply f off The obvious
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7:54pm Tue 8 Jan 13

The obvious says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
alfucham wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
alfucham wrote: Universal condemnation of the council and state of our once proud city excepting BCFC1903 and the lone council employee Cityman23. Stop dreaming BCFC1903. We have our history yes. The recent history is death of a city. Dont know where you shopped at christmas. Leeds and Manchester will have higher crime rates as noone ventures into Bradford much these days and there not coming back. (they dare not ,even if there was anything left to see or shop at) UNIVERSAL CONDEMNATION> WELL SAID LAWNEE> Summed it up. And if the Bulls get their hands on any more public money with the professional public money taker now at its helm,SCREAM FOUL As care homes rot and the homeless list grows daily. Blo*dy Corruption has seen the death of the old place. £50 grand to celebrate in Leeds the arrival of a set of corrupt Pakistani"s pretending to play international sport indeed.No Ball my friend. "whens The Fire " "Sch...its meant to be a secret until next week" "when the coach crash?" When we"ve got the whiplash lawyers set up all around the citygate. Yes the people round here these days know how to milk the holy cow eh. What a dump What a blo*dy country for allowing it to happen Mr Communities minister Fatty Arbuckle former great and Bad man of The City Of Bradford.RIP Of course it was all in the Allsop Masterplan. Take out all the Bradfordians and fill it with 3rd world scunners. A dumping ground for all the countries worst. Asylum seeking capital of GB. F***d Forever through luinatics
Surely you cannot see the tripe posted by yourself and others as being representative of the shopping habits of Bradfordians lol...i thought most who posted said tripe worked fo Leeds City Council lol Your posts as usual Alf are full of complete untruths made up by putting a few unfortunate instances in this and many other cities then painting every Bradfordian with the same unfortunate brush. You need to get out more..get around the country because asylum seekers are everywhere. The city footfall is bucking the national trend...yes the city has started from a low position but the facts are there the stats are there...ignore them if you must but it is actually happening...the crowds of shoppers before Christmas were enormous even though the weather was terrible...after Christmas exactly the same...shoulder to shoulder...people were queued to the door in one particular shop on North Parade and Kirkgate was heaving. Yes three years ago Bradford was on it's knees regarding footfall in the city centre but that is certainly not the case now. Read it and weep!!!!
I am sorry we are at odds. I ventured for a £4 haircut near Oastler and your experience was not matched by the views of The market traders and barber. I am not alone in my condemnation. And if the 99 per cent majority who post comment on here see it aswell I do not think you can justify throwing untruth accusations. The only crowds I saw as usual were those congregating and filling the methodone chemist dispensary near North Parade. Was that the shop you saw them queuing shoulder to shoulder. So if this is the case why are all the business that have had representation in the city for some 100 years all finishing in 2012 and closing the doors for the last time. Fattorinis made the FA Cup your team so proudly won in 1911. I could go on and on. I do not tar ALL Bradfordians with the same brush. The majority of the good will now not set foot. I would count you as one of the good. Todays T &a again reports they are breaking into peoples homes with guns to steal £45000 and £60000 of family jewellry. Why shop at Fattorini"s when we can buy a gun (easily in this town apparently)and take someone elses gold without paying. Then no doubt smelt it and pawn it in the proliferation of pawn shops around the upper town. Smell the coffee. The tripe shop on Carlisle Road (Pie herberts)is sadly gone forever too. So I dont know where I will get my "tripe" as you eloquently put it in 2013. Happy New Year Smell the Coffee and good luck on Tuesday
Alf...try Morrisons..i hear their tripe is nearly as good as yours. I thought Fattorinis moved to Harrogate years ago. Yes you may mock but i've yet to see any drug dealing either locally or further afield...the picture you paint is totally biased and not a true reflection of our fair city in any way shape or form. This forum's posters are not a scientific cross section of Bradfordian shoppers or their shopping habits...some are i'd venture a guess not even Bradfordians and do nothing but run our great city down. If folk want to pay inflated out of town prices good luck to them...i'd rather pay less for the same quality and so do thousands of other Bradfordians who flocked to the city centre shops aound Christmas and New Year.. To every Bradfordian thinking of shopping out of town...try the Kirkgate centre North Parade and the other excellent shops in Darley Street and Forster Square and save hard earned cash for exactly the same quality found at much higher prices else where.
You are joking right? You are talking about footfall in Bradford city centre increasing and to back up your argument, you refer to the lead up to Christmas and the first few days of sales afterwards. Are those figures actually out yet (officially)?

There may be some decent shops, but if I am serious about doing some shopping, I have to travel between Forster Square and the centre of Bradford. Parking is a nighmare and you want me to try to park in two separate car parks (e.g. JohnStreet and Forster Square)?

Where is there a Debenhams? Where is the choice at M&S? The city is flooded with Pound shops (is this the quality you refer to?), betting shops and poorly kept outlets. I'm sorry if this doesn't please you, but I'd rather go to the White Rose or Meadowhall, than shop in Bradford.

The area around the City Centre Park is lovely and, although I was concerned about the 'waste of money' at the time, it has realy opened up that part of the city. If we can now just do something with the old Odeon site, the old Debenhams/TJ Hughes site and finally get the Westfield shopping centre ready, it would really make a massive improvement.

But don't start this rubbish about it being a great place to shop....cos it aint!!!!
No ...i'm not joking... are you. You really do need to read what i said. The last figures released approx three years ago regarding Bradford city centre's economy showed an increase in money spent in it's retail outlets and an increase in it's position ....Bradford went up five positions...granted from a poor starting position. That was prior to the City Park opening.....there has been according to the council and the Kirkgate centre a marked increase in footfall since then. We're always shopping in Bradford and we have noticed an increase in folk in the city centre over the last three years.... for me the last 18 months has seen a large increase in folk using the city centre and it's shops. Prior to the last three years for me the city centre was on it's knees...but that certainly isn't the case now. I've never understood the argument about pound shops...for me they serve folk like any other shop does, although there are far too many betting shops. We love the Bradford hand made shop at the bottom of Ivegate and the household store on North Parade is a treasure. I don't doubt you've had problems parking but we either get the train in or park in Forster Square retail park, two hours free parking . This isn't rubbish unlike alot of the tripe(Alf loves his tripe lol) posted on this thread, we as a family enjoy shopping in Bradford...but i do agree with you about the City Park...i too doubted the idea behind building it but have been pleasantly surprised...and agree 100% with your sentiments regarding Sunwin House, the Odeon and Westfield. Yes Bradford could do with more quality retail outlets but most folk can get everything they need when shopping in Bradford. We find it very economic to shop there and also find it a friendly and safe place to shop.
Well the council tenants and some of those on benefits need to spend their money somewhere!

Don't forget the drug dealers and thieves who also need to spend their ill gotten money somewhere.

Don't forget all the dodgy claims that need to be spent.
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfucham[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfucham[/bold] wrote: Universal condemnation of the council and state of our once proud city excepting BCFC1903 and the lone council employee Cityman23. Stop dreaming BCFC1903. We have our history yes. The recent history is death of a city. Dont know where you shopped at christmas. Leeds and Manchester will have higher crime rates as noone ventures into Bradford much these days and there not coming back. (they dare not ,even if there was anything left to see or shop at) UNIVERSAL CONDEMNATION> WELL SAID LAWNEE> Summed it up. And if the Bulls get their hands on any more public money with the professional public money taker now at its helm,SCREAM FOUL As care homes rot and the homeless list grows daily. Blo*dy Corruption has seen the death of the old place. £50 grand to celebrate in Leeds the arrival of a set of corrupt Pakistani"s pretending to play international sport indeed.No Ball my friend. "whens The Fire " "Sch...its meant to be a secret until next week" "when the coach crash?" When we"ve got the whiplash lawyers set up all around the citygate. Yes the people round here these days know how to milk the holy cow eh. What a dump What a blo*dy country for allowing it to happen Mr Communities minister Fatty Arbuckle former great and Bad man of The City Of Bradford.RIP Of course it was all in the Allsop Masterplan. Take out all the Bradfordians and fill it with 3rd world scunners. A dumping ground for all the countries worst. Asylum seeking capital of GB. F***d Forever through luinatics[/p][/quote]Surely you cannot see the tripe posted by yourself and others as being representative of the shopping habits of Bradfordians lol...i thought most who posted said tripe worked fo Leeds City Council lol Your posts as usual Alf are full of complete untruths made up by putting a few unfortunate instances in this and many other cities then painting every Bradfordian with the same unfortunate brush. You need to get out more..get around the country because asylum seekers are everywhere. The city footfall is bucking the national trend...yes the city has started from a low position but the facts are there the stats are there...ignore them if you must but it is actually happening...the crowds of shoppers before Christmas were enormous even though the weather was terrible...after Christmas exactly the same...shoulder to shoulder...people were queued to the door in one particular shop on North Parade and Kirkgate was heaving. Yes three years ago Bradford was on it's knees regarding footfall in the city centre but that is certainly not the case now. Read it and weep!!!![/p][/quote]I am sorry we are at odds. I ventured for a £4 haircut near Oastler and your experience was not matched by the views of The market traders and barber. I am not alone in my condemnation. And if the 99 per cent majority who post comment on here see it aswell I do not think you can justify throwing untruth accusations. The only crowds I saw as usual were those congregating and filling the methodone chemist dispensary near North Parade. Was that the shop you saw them queuing shoulder to shoulder. So if this is the case why are all the business that have had representation in the city for some 100 years all finishing in 2012 and closing the doors for the last time. Fattorinis made the FA Cup your team so proudly won in 1911. I could go on and on. I do not tar ALL Bradfordians with the same brush. The majority of the good will now not set foot. I would count you as one of the good. Todays T &a again reports they are breaking into peoples homes with guns to steal £45000 and £60000 of family jewellry. Why shop at Fattorini"s when we can buy a gun (easily in this town apparently)and take someone elses gold without paying. Then no doubt smelt it and pawn it in the proliferation of pawn shops around the upper town. Smell the coffee. The tripe shop on Carlisle Road (Pie herberts)is sadly gone forever too. So I dont know where I will get my "tripe" as you eloquently put it in 2013. Happy New Year Smell the Coffee and good luck on Tuesday[/p][/quote]Alf...try Morrisons..i hear their tripe is nearly as good as yours. I thought Fattorinis moved to Harrogate years ago. Yes you may mock but i've yet to see any drug dealing either locally or further afield...the picture you paint is totally biased and not a true reflection of our fair city in any way shape or form. This forum's posters are not a scientific cross section of Bradfordian shoppers or their shopping habits...some are i'd venture a guess not even Bradfordians and do nothing but run our great city down. If folk want to pay inflated out of town prices good luck to them...i'd rather pay less for the same quality and so do thousands of other Bradfordians who flocked to the city centre shops aound Christmas and New Year.. To every Bradfordian thinking of shopping out of town...try the Kirkgate centre North Parade and the other excellent shops in Darley Street and Forster Square and save hard earned cash for exactly the same quality found at much higher prices else where.[/p][/quote]You are joking right? You are talking about footfall in Bradford city centre increasing and to back up your argument, you refer to the lead up to Christmas and the first few days of sales afterwards. Are those figures actually out yet (officially)? There may be some decent shops, but if I am serious about doing some shopping, I have to travel between Forster Square and the centre of Bradford. Parking is a nighmare and you want me to try to park in two separate car parks (e.g. JohnStreet and Forster Square)? Where is there a Debenhams? Where is the choice at M&S? The city is flooded with Pound shops (is this the quality you refer to?), betting shops and poorly kept outlets. I'm sorry if this doesn't please you, but I'd rather go to the White Rose or Meadowhall, than shop in Bradford. The area around the City Centre Park is lovely and, although I was concerned about the 'waste of money' at the time, it has realy opened up that part of the city. If we can now just do something with the old Odeon site, the old Debenhams/TJ Hughes site and finally get the Westfield shopping centre ready, it would really make a massive improvement. But don't start this rubbish about it being a great place to shop....cos it aint!!!![/p][/quote]No ...i'm not joking... are you. You really do need to read what i said. The last figures released approx three years ago regarding Bradford city centre's economy showed an increase in money spent in it's retail outlets and an increase in it's position ....Bradford went up five positions...granted from a poor starting position. That was prior to the City Park opening.....there has been according to the council and the Kirkgate centre a marked increase in footfall since then. We're always shopping in Bradford and we have noticed an increase in folk in the city centre over the last three years.... for me the last 18 months has seen a large increase in folk using the city centre and it's shops. Prior to the last three years for me the city centre was on it's knees...but that certainly isn't the case now. I've never understood the argument about pound shops...for me they serve folk like any other shop does, although there are far too many betting shops. We love the Bradford hand made shop at the bottom of Ivegate and the household store on North Parade is a treasure. I don't doubt you've had problems parking but we either get the train in or park in Forster Square retail park, two hours free parking . This isn't rubbish unlike alot of the tripe(Alf loves his tripe lol) posted on this thread, we as a family enjoy shopping in Bradford...but i do agree with you about the City Park...i too doubted the idea behind building it but have been pleasantly surprised...and agree 100% with your sentiments regarding Sunwin House, the Odeon and Westfield. Yes Bradford could do with more quality retail outlets but most folk can get everything they need when shopping in Bradford. We find it very economic to shop there and also find it a friendly and safe place to shop.[/p][/quote]Well the council tenants and some of those on benefits need to spend their money somewhere! Don't forget the drug dealers and thieves who also need to spend their ill gotten money somewhere. Don't forget all the dodgy claims that need to be spent. The obvious
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12:35am Wed 9 Jan 13

alfucham says...

The obvious wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
alfucham wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
alfucham wrote: Universal condemnation of the council and state of our once proud city excepting BCFC1903 and the lone council employee Cityman23. Stop dreaming BCFC1903. We have our history yes. The recent history is death of a city. Dont know where you shopped at christmas. Leeds and Manchester will have higher crime rates as noone ventures into Bradford much these days and there not coming back. (they dare not ,even if there was anything left to see or shop at) UNIVERSAL CONDEMNATION> WELL SAID LAWNEE> Summed it up. And if the Bulls get their hands on any more public money with the professional public money taker now at its helm,SCREAM FOUL As care homes rot and the homeless list grows daily. Blo*dy Corruption has seen the death of the old place. £50 grand to celebrate in Leeds the arrival of a set of corrupt Pakistani"s pretending to play international sport indeed.No Ball my friend. "whens The Fire " "Sch...its meant to be a secret until next week" "when the coach crash?" When we"ve got the whiplash lawyers set up all around the citygate. Yes the people round here these days know how to milk the holy cow eh. What a dump What a blo*dy country for allowing it to happen Mr Communities minister Fatty Arbuckle former great and Bad man of The City Of Bradford.RIP Of course it was all in the Allsop Masterplan. Take out all the Bradfordians and fill it with 3rd world scunners. A dumping ground for all the countries worst. Asylum seeking capital of GB. F***d Forever through luinatics
Surely you cannot see the tripe posted by yourself and others as being representative of the shopping habits of Bradfordians lol...i thought most who posted said tripe worked fo Leeds City Council lol Your posts as usual Alf are full of complete untruths made up by putting a few unfortunate instances in this and many other cities then painting every Bradfordian with the same unfortunate brush. You need to get out more..get around the country because asylum seekers are everywhere. The city footfall is bucking the national trend...yes the city has started from a low position but the facts are there the stats are there...ignore them if you must but it is actually happening...the crowds of shoppers before Christmas were enormous even though the weather was terrible...after Christmas exactly the same...shoulder to shoulder...people were queued to the door in one particular shop on North Parade and Kirkgate was heaving. Yes three years ago Bradford was on it's knees regarding footfall in the city centre but that is certainly not the case now. Read it and weep!!!!
I am sorry we are at odds. I ventured for a £4 haircut near Oastler and your experience was not matched by the views of The market traders and barber. I am not alone in my condemnation. And if the 99 per cent majority who post comment on here see it aswell I do not think you can justify throwing untruth accusations. The only crowds I saw as usual were those congregating and filling the methodone chemist dispensary near North Parade. Was that the shop you saw them queuing shoulder to shoulder. So if this is the case why are all the business that have had representation in the city for some 100 years all finishing in 2012 and closing the doors for the last time. Fattorinis made the FA Cup your team so proudly won in 1911. I could go on and on. I do not tar ALL Bradfordians with the same brush. The majority of the good will now not set foot. I would count you as one of the good. Todays T &a again reports they are breaking into peoples homes with guns to steal £45000 and £60000 of family jewellry. Why shop at Fattorini"s when we can buy a gun (easily in this town apparently)and take someone elses gold without paying. Then no doubt smelt it and pawn it in the proliferation of pawn shops around the upper town. Smell the coffee. The tripe shop on Carlisle Road (Pie herberts)is sadly gone forever too. So I dont know where I will get my "tripe" as you eloquently put it in 2013. Happy New Year Smell the Coffee and good luck on Tuesday
Alf...try Morrisons..i hear their tripe is nearly as good as yours. I thought Fattorinis moved to Harrogate years ago. Yes you may mock but i've yet to see any drug dealing either locally or further afield...the picture you paint is totally biased and not a true reflection of our fair city in any way shape or form. This forum's posters are not a scientific cross section of Bradfordian shoppers or their shopping habits...some are i'd venture a guess not even Bradfordians and do nothing but run our great city down. If folk want to pay inflated out of town prices good luck to them...i'd rather pay less for the same quality and so do thousands of other Bradfordians who flocked to the city centre shops aound Christmas and New Year.. To every Bradfordian thinking of shopping out of town...try the Kirkgate centre North Parade and the other excellent shops in Darley Street and Forster Square and save hard earned cash for exactly the same quality found at much higher prices else where.
You are joking right? You are talking about footfall in Bradford city centre increasing and to back up your argument, you refer to the lead up to Christmas and the first few days of sales afterwards. Are those figures actually out yet (officially)? There may be some decent shops, but if I am serious about doing some shopping, I have to travel between Forster Square and the centre of Bradford. Parking is a nighmare and you want me to try to park in two separate car parks (e.g. JohnStreet and Forster Square)? Where is there a Debenhams? Where is the choice at M&S? The city is flooded with Pound shops (is this the quality you refer to?), betting shops and poorly kept outlets. I'm sorry if this doesn't please you, but I'd rather go to the White Rose or Meadowhall, than shop in Bradford. The area around the City Centre Park is lovely and, although I was concerned about the 'waste of money' at the time, it has realy opened up that part of the city. If we can now just do something with the old Odeon site, the old Debenhams/TJ Hughes site and finally get the Westfield shopping centre ready, it would really make a massive improvement. But don't start this rubbish about it being a great place to shop....cos it aint!!!!
No ...i'm not joking... are you. You really do need to read what i said. The last figures released approx three years ago regarding Bradford city centre's economy showed an increase in money spent in it's retail outlets and an increase in it's position ....Bradford went up five positions...granted from a poor starting position. That was prior to the City Park opening.....there has been according to the council and the Kirkgate centre a marked increase in footfall since then. We're always shopping in Bradford and we have noticed an increase in folk in the city centre over the last three years.... for me the last 18 months has seen a large increase in folk using the city centre and it's shops. Prior to the last three years for me the city centre was on it's knees...but that certainly isn't the case now. I've never understood the argument about pound shops...for me they serve folk like any other shop does, although there are far too many betting shops. We love the Bradford hand made shop at the bottom of Ivegate and the household store on North Parade is a treasure. I don't doubt you've had problems parking but we either get the train in or park in Forster Square retail park, two hours free parking . This isn't rubbish unlike alot of the tripe(Alf loves his tripe lol) posted on this thread, we as a family enjoy shopping in Bradford...but i do agree with you about the City Park...i too doubted the idea behind building it but have been pleasantly surprised...and agree 100% with your sentiments regarding Sunwin House, the Odeon and Westfield. Yes Bradford could do with more quality retail outlets but most folk can get everything they need when shopping in Bradford. We find it very economic to shop there and also find it a friendly and safe place to shop.
Well the council tenants and some of those on benefits need to spend their money somewhere! Don't forget the drug dealers and thieves who also need to spend their ill gotten money somewhere. Don't forget all the dodgy claims that need to be spent.
I"ll have to keep eating more tripe and talk less of it.

Glad some share my tripe.

BCfC 1903 must be a pie and pea man

LOL

Laugh....I nearly shat myself
[quote][p][bold]The obvious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfucham[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfucham[/bold] wrote: Universal condemnation of the council and state of our once proud city excepting BCFC1903 and the lone council employee Cityman23. Stop dreaming BCFC1903. We have our history yes. The recent history is death of a city. Dont know where you shopped at christmas. Leeds and Manchester will have higher crime rates as noone ventures into Bradford much these days and there not coming back. (they dare not ,even if there was anything left to see or shop at) UNIVERSAL CONDEMNATION> WELL SAID LAWNEE> Summed it up. And if the Bulls get their hands on any more public money with the professional public money taker now at its helm,SCREAM FOUL As care homes rot and the homeless list grows daily. Blo*dy Corruption has seen the death of the old place. £50 grand to celebrate in Leeds the arrival of a set of corrupt Pakistani"s pretending to play international sport indeed.No Ball my friend. "whens The Fire " "Sch...its meant to be a secret until next week" "when the coach crash?" When we"ve got the whiplash lawyers set up all around the citygate. Yes the people round here these days know how to milk the holy cow eh. What a dump What a blo*dy country for allowing it to happen Mr Communities minister Fatty Arbuckle former great and Bad man of The City Of Bradford.RIP Of course it was all in the Allsop Masterplan. Take out all the Bradfordians and fill it with 3rd world scunners. A dumping ground for all the countries worst. Asylum seeking capital of GB. F***d Forever through luinatics[/p][/quote]Surely you cannot see the tripe posted by yourself and others as being representative of the shopping habits of Bradfordians lol...i thought most who posted said tripe worked fo Leeds City Council lol Your posts as usual Alf are full of complete untruths made up by putting a few unfortunate instances in this and many other cities then painting every Bradfordian with the same unfortunate brush. You need to get out more..get around the country because asylum seekers are everywhere. The city footfall is bucking the national trend...yes the city has started from a low position but the facts are there the stats are there...ignore them if you must but it is actually happening...the crowds of shoppers before Christmas were enormous even though the weather was terrible...after Christmas exactly the same...shoulder to shoulder...people were queued to the door in one particular shop on North Parade and Kirkgate was heaving. Yes three years ago Bradford was on it's knees regarding footfall in the city centre but that is certainly not the case now. Read it and weep!!!![/p][/quote]I am sorry we are at odds. I ventured for a £4 haircut near Oastler and your experience was not matched by the views of The market traders and barber. I am not alone in my condemnation. And if the 99 per cent majority who post comment on here see it aswell I do not think you can justify throwing untruth accusations. The only crowds I saw as usual were those congregating and filling the methodone chemist dispensary near North Parade. Was that the shop you saw them queuing shoulder to shoulder. So if this is the case why are all the business that have had representation in the city for some 100 years all finishing in 2012 and closing the doors for the last time. Fattorinis made the FA Cup your team so proudly won in 1911. I could go on and on. I do not tar ALL Bradfordians with the same brush. The majority of the good will now not set foot. I would count you as one of the good. Todays T &a again reports they are breaking into peoples homes with guns to steal £45000 and £60000 of family jewellry. Why shop at Fattorini"s when we can buy a gun (easily in this town apparently)and take someone elses gold without paying. Then no doubt smelt it and pawn it in the proliferation of pawn shops around the upper town. Smell the coffee. The tripe shop on Carlisle Road (Pie herberts)is sadly gone forever too. So I dont know where I will get my "tripe" as you eloquently put it in 2013. Happy New Year Smell the Coffee and good luck on Tuesday[/p][/quote]Alf...try Morrisons..i hear their tripe is nearly as good as yours. I thought Fattorinis moved to Harrogate years ago. Yes you may mock but i've yet to see any drug dealing either locally or further afield...the picture you paint is totally biased and not a true reflection of our fair city in any way shape or form. This forum's posters are not a scientific cross section of Bradfordian shoppers or their shopping habits...some are i'd venture a guess not even Bradfordians and do nothing but run our great city down. If folk want to pay inflated out of town prices good luck to them...i'd rather pay less for the same quality and so do thousands of other Bradfordians who flocked to the city centre shops aound Christmas and New Year.. To every Bradfordian thinking of shopping out of town...try the Kirkgate centre North Parade and the other excellent shops in Darley Street and Forster Square and save hard earned cash for exactly the same quality found at much higher prices else where.[/p][/quote]You are joking right? You are talking about footfall in Bradford city centre increasing and to back up your argument, you refer to the lead up to Christmas and the first few days of sales afterwards. Are those figures actually out yet (officially)? There may be some decent shops, but if I am serious about doing some shopping, I have to travel between Forster Square and the centre of Bradford. Parking is a nighmare and you want me to try to park in two separate car parks (e.g. JohnStreet and Forster Square)? Where is there a Debenhams? Where is the choice at M&S? The city is flooded with Pound shops (is this the quality you refer to?), betting shops and poorly kept outlets. I'm sorry if this doesn't please you, but I'd rather go to the White Rose or Meadowhall, than shop in Bradford. The area around the City Centre Park is lovely and, although I was concerned about the 'waste of money' at the time, it has realy opened up that part of the city. If we can now just do something with the old Odeon site, the old Debenhams/TJ Hughes site and finally get the Westfield shopping centre ready, it would really make a massive improvement. But don't start this rubbish about it being a great place to shop....cos it aint!!!![/p][/quote]No ...i'm not joking... are you. You really do need to read what i said. The last figures released approx three years ago regarding Bradford city centre's economy showed an increase in money spent in it's retail outlets and an increase in it's position ....Bradford went up five positions...granted from a poor starting position. That was prior to the City Park opening.....there has been according to the council and the Kirkgate centre a marked increase in footfall since then. We're always shopping in Bradford and we have noticed an increase in folk in the city centre over the last three years.... for me the last 18 months has seen a large increase in folk using the city centre and it's shops. Prior to the last three years for me the city centre was on it's knees...but that certainly isn't the case now. I've never understood the argument about pound shops...for me they serve folk like any other shop does, although there are far too many betting shops. We love the Bradford hand made shop at the bottom of Ivegate and the household store on North Parade is a treasure. I don't doubt you've had problems parking but we either get the train in or park in Forster Square retail park, two hours free parking . This isn't rubbish unlike alot of the tripe(Alf loves his tripe lol) posted on this thread, we as a family enjoy shopping in Bradford...but i do agree with you about the City Park...i too doubted the idea behind building it but have been pleasantly surprised...and agree 100% with your sentiments regarding Sunwin House, the Odeon and Westfield. Yes Bradford could do with more quality retail outlets but most folk can get everything they need when shopping in Bradford. We find it very economic to shop there and also find it a friendly and safe place to shop.[/p][/quote]Well the council tenants and some of those on benefits need to spend their money somewhere! Don't forget the drug dealers and thieves who also need to spend their ill gotten money somewhere. Don't forget all the dodgy claims that need to be spent.[/p][/quote]I"ll have to keep eating more tripe and talk less of it. Glad some share my tripe. BCfC 1903 must be a pie and pea man LOL Laugh....I nearly shat myself alfucham
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11:12am Wed 9 Jan 13

bcfc1903 says...

The obvious wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
alfucham wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
alfucham wrote: Universal condemnation of the council and state of our once proud city excepting BCFC1903 and the lone council employee Cityman23. Stop dreaming BCFC1903. We have our history yes. The recent history is death of a city. Dont know where you shopped at christmas. Leeds and Manchester will have higher crime rates as noone ventures into Bradford much these days and there not coming back. (they dare not ,even if there was anything left to see or shop at) UNIVERSAL CONDEMNATION> WELL SAID LAWNEE> Summed it up. And if the Bulls get their hands on any more public money with the professional public money taker now at its helm,SCREAM FOUL As care homes rot and the homeless list grows daily. Blo*dy Corruption has seen the death of the old place. £50 grand to celebrate in Leeds the arrival of a set of corrupt Pakistani"s pretending to play international sport indeed.No Ball my friend. "whens The Fire " "Sch...its meant to be a secret until next week" "when the coach crash?" When we"ve got the whiplash lawyers set up all around the citygate. Yes the people round here these days know how to milk the holy cow eh. What a dump What a blo*dy country for allowing it to happen Mr Communities minister Fatty Arbuckle former great and Bad man of The City Of Bradford.RIP Of course it was all in the Allsop Masterplan. Take out all the Bradfordians and fill it with 3rd world scunners. A dumping ground for all the countries worst. Asylum seeking capital of GB. F***d Forever through luinatics
Surely you cannot see the tripe posted by yourself and others as being representative of the shopping habits of Bradfordians lol...i thought most who posted said tripe worked fo Leeds City Council lol Your posts as usual Alf are full of complete untruths made up by putting a few unfortunate instances in this and many other cities then painting every Bradfordian with the same unfortunate brush. You need to get out more..get around the country because asylum seekers are everywhere. The city footfall is bucking the national trend...yes the city has started from a low position but the facts are there the stats are there...ignore them if you must but it is actually happening...the crowds of shoppers before Christmas were enormous even though the weather was terrible...after Christmas exactly the same...shoulder to shoulder...people were queued to the door in one particular shop on North Parade and Kirkgate was heaving. Yes three years ago Bradford was on it's knees regarding footfall in the city centre but that is certainly not the case now. Read it and weep!!!!
I am sorry we are at odds. I ventured for a £4 haircut near Oastler and your experience was not matched by the views of The market traders and barber. I am not alone in my condemnation. And if the 99 per cent majority who post comment on here see it aswell I do not think you can justify throwing untruth accusations. The only crowds I saw as usual were those congregating and filling the methodone chemist dispensary near North Parade. Was that the shop you saw them queuing shoulder to shoulder. So if this is the case why are all the business that have had representation in the city for some 100 years all finishing in 2012 and closing the doors for the last time. Fattorinis made the FA Cup your team so proudly won in 1911. I could go on and on. I do not tar ALL Bradfordians with the same brush. The majority of the good will now not set foot. I would count you as one of the good. Todays T &a again reports they are breaking into peoples homes with guns to steal £45000 and £60000 of family jewellry. Why shop at Fattorini"s when we can buy a gun (easily in this town apparently)and take someone elses gold without paying. Then no doubt smelt it and pawn it in the proliferation of pawn shops around the upper town. Smell the coffee. The tripe shop on Carlisle Road (Pie herberts)is sadly gone forever too. So I dont know where I will get my "tripe" as you eloquently put it in 2013. Happy New Year Smell the Coffee and good luck on Tuesday
Alf...try Morrisons..i hear their tripe is nearly as good as yours. I thought Fattorinis moved to Harrogate years ago. Yes you may mock but i've yet to see any drug dealing either locally or further afield...the picture you paint is totally biased and not a true reflection of our fair city in any way shape or form. This forum's posters are not a scientific cross section of Bradfordian shoppers or their shopping habits...some are i'd venture a guess not even Bradfordians and do nothing but run our great city down. If folk want to pay inflated out of town prices good luck to them...i'd rather pay less for the same quality and so do thousands of other Bradfordians who flocked to the city centre shops aound Christmas and New Year.. To every Bradfordian thinking of shopping out of town...try the Kirkgate centre North Parade and the other excellent shops in Darley Street and Forster Square and save hard earned cash for exactly the same quality found at much higher prices else where.
You are joking right? You are talking about footfall in Bradford city centre increasing and to back up your argument, you refer to the lead up to Christmas and the first few days of sales afterwards. Are those figures actually out yet (officially)?

There may be some decent shops, but if I am serious about doing some shopping, I have to travel between Forster Square and the centre of Bradford. Parking is a nighmare and you want me to try to park in two separate car parks (e.g. JohnStreet and Forster Square)?

Where is there a Debenhams? Where is the choice at M&S? The city is flooded with Pound shops (is this the quality you refer to?), betting shops and poorly kept outlets. I'm sorry if this doesn't please you, but I'd rather go to the White Rose or Meadowhall, than shop in Bradford.

The area around the City Centre Park is lovely and, although I was concerned about the 'waste of money' at the time, it has realy opened up that part of the city. If we can now just do something with the old Odeon site, the old Debenhams/TJ Hughes site and finally get the Westfield shopping centre ready, it would really make a massive improvement.

But don't start this rubbish about it being a great place to shop....cos it aint!!!!
No ...i'm not joking... are you. You really do need to read what i said. The last figures released approx three years ago regarding Bradford city centre's economy showed an increase in money spent in it's retail outlets and an increase in it's position ....Bradford went up five positions...granted from a poor starting position. That was prior to the City Park opening.....there has been according to the council and the Kirkgate centre a marked increase in footfall since then. We're always shopping in Bradford and we have noticed an increase in folk in the city centre over the last three years.... for me the last 18 months has seen a large increase in folk using the city centre and it's shops. Prior to the last three years for me the city centre was on it's knees...but that certainly isn't the case now. I've never understood the argument about pound shops...for me they serve folk like any other shop does, although there are far too many betting shops. We love the Bradford hand made shop at the bottom of Ivegate and the household store on North Parade is a treasure. I don't doubt you've had problems parking but we either get the train in or park in Forster Square retail park, two hours free parking . This isn't rubbish unlike alot of the tripe(Alf loves his tripe lol) posted on this thread, we as a family enjoy shopping in Bradford...but i do agree with you about the City Park...i too doubted the idea behind building it but have been pleasantly surprised...and agree 100% with your sentiments regarding Sunwin House, the Odeon and Westfield. Yes Bradford could do with more quality retail outlets but most folk can get everything they need when shopping in Bradford. We find it very economic to shop there and also find it a friendly and safe place to shop.
Well the council tenants and some of those on benefits need to spend their money somewhere!

Don't forget the drug dealers and thieves who also need to spend their ill gotten money somewhere.

Don't forget all the dodgy claims that need to be spent.
You're a crank and that is sooooooo Obvious!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]The obvious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfucham[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfucham[/bold] wrote: Universal condemnation of the council and state of our once proud city excepting BCFC1903 and the lone council employee Cityman23. Stop dreaming BCFC1903. We have our history yes. The recent history is death of a city. Dont know where you shopped at christmas. Leeds and Manchester will have higher crime rates as noone ventures into Bradford much these days and there not coming back. (they dare not ,even if there was anything left to see or shop at) UNIVERSAL CONDEMNATION> WELL SAID LAWNEE> Summed it up. And if the Bulls get their hands on any more public money with the professional public money taker now at its helm,SCREAM FOUL As care homes rot and the homeless list grows daily. Blo*dy Corruption has seen the death of the old place. £50 grand to celebrate in Leeds the arrival of a set of corrupt Pakistani"s pretending to play international sport indeed.No Ball my friend. "whens The Fire " "Sch...its meant to be a secret until next week" "when the coach crash?" When we"ve got the whiplash lawyers set up all around the citygate. Yes the people round here these days know how to milk the holy cow eh. What a dump What a blo*dy country for allowing it to happen Mr Communities minister Fatty Arbuckle former great and Bad man of The City Of Bradford.RIP Of course it was all in the Allsop Masterplan. Take out all the Bradfordians and fill it with 3rd world scunners. A dumping ground for all the countries worst. Asylum seeking capital of GB. F***d Forever through luinatics[/p][/quote]Surely you cannot see the tripe posted by yourself and others as being representative of the shopping habits of Bradfordians lol...i thought most who posted said tripe worked fo Leeds City Council lol Your posts as usual Alf are full of complete untruths made up by putting a few unfortunate instances in this and many other cities then painting every Bradfordian with the same unfortunate brush. You need to get out more..get around the country because asylum seekers are everywhere. The city footfall is bucking the national trend...yes the city has started from a low position but the facts are there the stats are there...ignore them if you must but it is actually happening...the crowds of shoppers before Christmas were enormous even though the weather was terrible...after Christmas exactly the same...shoulder to shoulder...people were queued to the door in one particular shop on North Parade and Kirkgate was heaving. Yes three years ago Bradford was on it's knees regarding footfall in the city centre but that is certainly not the case now. Read it and weep!!!![/p][/quote]I am sorry we are at odds. I ventured for a £4 haircut near Oastler and your experience was not matched by the views of The market traders and barber. I am not alone in my condemnation. And if the 99 per cent majority who post comment on here see it aswell I do not think you can justify throwing untruth accusations. The only crowds I saw as usual were those congregating and filling the methodone chemist dispensary near North Parade. Was that the shop you saw them queuing shoulder to shoulder. So if this is the case why are all the business that have had representation in the city for some 100 years all finishing in 2012 and closing the doors for the last time. Fattorinis made the FA Cup your team so proudly won in 1911. I could go on and on. I do not tar ALL Bradfordians with the same brush. The majority of the good will now not set foot. I would count you as one of the good. Todays T &a again reports they are breaking into peoples homes with guns to steal £45000 and £60000 of family jewellry. Why shop at Fattorini"s when we can buy a gun (easily in this town apparently)and take someone elses gold without paying. Then no doubt smelt it and pawn it in the proliferation of pawn shops around the upper town. Smell the coffee. The tripe shop on Carlisle Road (Pie herberts)is sadly gone forever too. So I dont know where I will get my "tripe" as you eloquently put it in 2013. Happy New Year Smell the Coffee and good luck on Tuesday[/p][/quote]Alf...try Morrisons..i hear their tripe is nearly as good as yours. I thought Fattorinis moved to Harrogate years ago. Yes you may mock but i've yet to see any drug dealing either locally or further afield...the picture you paint is totally biased and not a true reflection of our fair city in any way shape or form. This forum's posters are not a scientific cross section of Bradfordian shoppers or their shopping habits...some are i'd venture a guess not even Bradfordians and do nothing but run our great city down. If folk want to pay inflated out of town prices good luck to them...i'd rather pay less for the same quality and so do thousands of other Bradfordians who flocked to the city centre shops aound Christmas and New Year.. To every Bradfordian thinking of shopping out of town...try the Kirkgate centre North Parade and the other excellent shops in Darley Street and Forster Square and save hard earned cash for exactly the same quality found at much higher prices else where.[/p][/quote]You are joking right? You are talking about footfall in Bradford city centre increasing and to back up your argument, you refer to the lead up to Christmas and the first few days of sales afterwards. Are those figures actually out yet (officially)? There may be some decent shops, but if I am serious about doing some shopping, I have to travel between Forster Square and the centre of Bradford. Parking is a nighmare and you want me to try to park in two separate car parks (e.g. JohnStreet and Forster Square)? Where is there a Debenhams? Where is the choice at M&S? The city is flooded with Pound shops (is this the quality you refer to?), betting shops and poorly kept outlets. I'm sorry if this doesn't please you, but I'd rather go to the White Rose or Meadowhall, than shop in Bradford. The area around the City Centre Park is lovely and, although I was concerned about the 'waste of money' at the time, it has realy opened up that part of the city. If we can now just do something with the old Odeon site, the old Debenhams/TJ Hughes site and finally get the Westfield shopping centre ready, it would really make a massive improvement. But don't start this rubbish about it being a great place to shop....cos it aint!!!![/p][/quote]No ...i'm not joking... are you. You really do need to read what i said. The last figures released approx three years ago regarding Bradford city centre's economy showed an increase in money spent in it's retail outlets and an increase in it's position ....Bradford went up five positions...granted from a poor starting position. That was prior to the City Park opening.....there has been according to the council and the Kirkgate centre a marked increase in footfall since then. We're always shopping in Bradford and we have noticed an increase in folk in the city centre over the last three years.... for me the last 18 months has seen a large increase in folk using the city centre and it's shops. Prior to the last three years for me the city centre was on it's knees...but that certainly isn't the case now. I've never understood the argument about pound shops...for me they serve folk like any other shop does, although there are far too many betting shops. We love the Bradford hand made shop at the bottom of Ivegate and the household store on North Parade is a treasure. I don't doubt you've had problems parking but we either get the train in or park in Forster Square retail park, two hours free parking . This isn't rubbish unlike alot of the tripe(Alf loves his tripe lol) posted on this thread, we as a family enjoy shopping in Bradford...but i do agree with you about the City Park...i too doubted the idea behind building it but have been pleasantly surprised...and agree 100% with your sentiments regarding Sunwin House, the Odeon and Westfield. Yes Bradford could do with more quality retail outlets but most folk can get everything they need when shopping in Bradford. We find it very economic to shop there and also find it a friendly and safe place to shop.[/p][/quote]Well the council tenants and some of those on benefits need to spend their money somewhere! Don't forget the drug dealers and thieves who also need to spend their ill gotten money somewhere. Don't forget all the dodgy claims that need to be spent.[/p][/quote]You're a crank and that is sooooooo Obvious!!!!! bcfc1903
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11:21am Wed 9 Jan 13

bcfc1903 says...

alfucham wrote:
The obvious wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
alfucham wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
alfucham wrote: Universal condemnation of the council and state of our once proud city excepting BCFC1903 and the lone council employee Cityman23. Stop dreaming BCFC1903. We have our history yes. The recent history is death of a city. Dont know where you shopped at christmas. Leeds and Manchester will have higher crime rates as noone ventures into Bradford much these days and there not coming back. (they dare not ,even if there was anything left to see or shop at) UNIVERSAL CONDEMNATION> WELL SAID LAWNEE> Summed it up. And if the Bulls get their hands on any more public money with the professional public money taker now at its helm,SCREAM FOUL As care homes rot and the homeless list grows daily. Blo*dy Corruption has seen the death of the old place. £50 grand to celebrate in Leeds the arrival of a set of corrupt Pakistani"s pretending to play international sport indeed.No Ball my friend. "whens The Fire " "Sch...its meant to be a secret until next week" "when the coach crash?" When we"ve got the whiplash lawyers set up all around the citygate. Yes the people round here these days know how to milk the holy cow eh. What a dump What a blo*dy country for allowing it to happen Mr Communities minister Fatty Arbuckle former great and Bad man of The City Of Bradford.RIP Of course it was all in the Allsop Masterplan. Take out all the Bradfordians and fill it with 3rd world scunners. A dumping ground for all the countries worst. Asylum seeking capital of GB. F***d Forever through luinatics
Surely you cannot see the tripe posted by yourself and others as being representative of the shopping habits of Bradfordians lol...i thought most who posted said tripe worked fo Leeds City Council lol Your posts as usual Alf are full of complete untruths made up by putting a few unfortunate instances in this and many other cities then painting every Bradfordian with the same unfortunate brush. You need to get out more..get around the country because asylum seekers are everywhere. The city footfall is bucking the national trend...yes the city has started from a low position but the facts are there the stats are there...ignore them if you must but it is actually happening...the crowds of shoppers before Christmas were enormous even though the weather was terrible...after Christmas exactly the same...shoulder to shoulder...people were queued to the door in one particular shop on North Parade and Kirkgate was heaving. Yes three years ago Bradford was on it's knees regarding footfall in the city centre but that is certainly not the case now. Read it and weep!!!!
I am sorry we are at odds. I ventured for a £4 haircut near Oastler and your experience was not matched by the views of The market traders and barber. I am not alone in my condemnation. And if the 99 per cent majority who post comment on here see it aswell I do not think you can justify throwing untruth accusations. The only crowds I saw as usual were those congregating and filling the methodone chemist dispensary near North Parade. Was that the shop you saw them queuing shoulder to shoulder. So if this is the case why are all the business that have had representation in the city for some 100 years all finishing in 2012 and closing the doors for the last time. Fattorinis made the FA Cup your team so proudly won in 1911. I could go on and on. I do not tar ALL Bradfordians with the same brush. The majority of the good will now not set foot. I would count you as one of the good. Todays T &a again reports they are breaking into peoples homes with guns to steal £45000 and £60000 of family jewellry. Why shop at Fattorini"s when we can buy a gun (easily in this town apparently)and take someone elses gold without paying. Then no doubt smelt it and pawn it in the proliferation of pawn shops around the upper town. Smell the coffee. The tripe shop on Carlisle Road (Pie herberts)is sadly gone forever too. So I dont know where I will get my "tripe" as you eloquently put it in 2013. Happy New Year Smell the Coffee and good luck on Tuesday
Alf...try Morrisons..i hear their tripe is nearly as good as yours. I thought Fattorinis moved to Harrogate years ago. Yes you may mock but i've yet to see any drug dealing either locally or further afield...the picture you paint is totally biased and not a true reflection of our fair city in any way shape or form. This forum's posters are not a scientific cross section of Bradfordian shoppers or their shopping habits...some are i'd venture a guess not even Bradfordians and do nothing but run our great city down. If folk want to pay inflated out of town prices good luck to them...i'd rather pay less for the same quality and so do thousands of other Bradfordians who flocked to the city centre shops aound Christmas and New Year.. To every Bradfordian thinking of shopping out of town...try the Kirkgate centre North Parade and the other excellent shops in Darley Street and Forster Square and save hard earned cash for exactly the same quality found at much higher prices else where.
You are joking right? You are talking about footfall in Bradford city centre increasing and to back up your argument, you refer to the lead up to Christmas and the first few days of sales afterwards. Are those figures actually out yet (officially)? There may be some decent shops, but if I am serious about doing some shopping, I have to travel between Forster Square and the centre of Bradford. Parking is a nighmare and you want me to try to park in two separate car parks (e.g. JohnStreet and Forster Square)? Where is there a Debenhams? Where is the choice at M&S? The city is flooded with Pound shops (is this the quality you refer to?), betting shops and poorly kept outlets. I'm sorry if this doesn't please you, but I'd rather go to the White Rose or Meadowhall, than shop in Bradford. The area around the City Centre Park is lovely and, although I was concerned about the 'waste of money' at the time, it has realy opened up that part of the city. If we can now just do something with the old Odeon site, the old Debenhams/TJ Hughes site and finally get the Westfield shopping centre ready, it would really make a massive improvement. But don't start this rubbish about it being a great place to shop....cos it aint!!!!
No ...i'm not joking... are you. You really do need to read what i said. The last figures released approx three years ago regarding Bradford city centre's economy showed an increase in money spent in it's retail outlets and an increase in it's position ....Bradford went up five positions...granted from a poor starting position. That was prior to the City Park opening.....there has been according to the council and the Kirkgate centre a marked increase in footfall since then. We're always shopping in Bradford and we have noticed an increase in folk in the city centre over the last three years.... for me the last 18 months has seen a large increase in folk using the city centre and it's shops. Prior to the last three years for me the city centre was on it's knees...but that certainly isn't the case now. I've never understood the argument about pound shops...for me they serve folk like any other shop does, although there are far too many betting shops. We love the Bradford hand made shop at the bottom of Ivegate and the household store on North Parade is a treasure. I don't doubt you've had problems parking but we either get the train in or park in Forster Square retail park, two hours free parking . This isn't rubbish unlike alot of the tripe(Alf loves his tripe lol) posted on this thread, we as a family enjoy shopping in Bradford...but i do agree with you about the City Park...i too doubted the idea behind building it but have been pleasantly surprised...and agree 100% with your sentiments regarding Sunwin House, the Odeon and Westfield. Yes Bradford could do with more quality retail outlets but most folk can get everything they need when shopping in Bradford. We find it very economic to shop there and also find it a friendly and safe place to shop.
Well the council tenants and some of those on benefits need to spend their money somewhere! Don't forget the drug dealers and thieves who also need to spend their ill gotten money somewhere. Don't forget all the dodgy claims that need to be spent.
I"ll have to keep eating more tripe and talk less of it.

Glad some share my tripe.

BCfC 1903 must be a pie and pea man

LOL

Laugh....I nearly shat myself
Alf...by all means eat more tripe but also try to talk/type more sense!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]alfucham[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The obvious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfucham[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfucham[/bold] wrote: Universal condemnation of the council and state of our once proud city excepting BCFC1903 and the lone council employee Cityman23. Stop dreaming BCFC1903. We have our history yes. The recent history is death of a city. Dont know where you shopped at christmas. Leeds and Manchester will have higher crime rates as noone ventures into Bradford much these days and there not coming back. (they dare not ,even if there was anything left to see or shop at) UNIVERSAL CONDEMNATION> WELL SAID LAWNEE> Summed it up. And if the Bulls get their hands on any more public money with the professional public money taker now at its helm,SCREAM FOUL As care homes rot and the homeless list grows daily. Blo*dy Corruption has seen the death of the old place. £50 grand to celebrate in Leeds the arrival of a set of corrupt Pakistani"s pretending to play international sport indeed.No Ball my friend. "whens The Fire " "Sch...its meant to be a secret until next week" "when the coach crash?" When we"ve got the whiplash lawyers set up all around the citygate. Yes the people round here these days know how to milk the holy cow eh. What a dump What a blo*dy country for allowing it to happen Mr Communities minister Fatty Arbuckle former great and Bad man of The City Of Bradford.RIP Of course it was all in the Allsop Masterplan. Take out all the Bradfordians and fill it with 3rd world scunners. A dumping ground for all the countries worst. Asylum seeking capital of GB. F***d Forever through luinatics[/p][/quote]Surely you cannot see the tripe posted by yourself and others as being representative of the shopping habits of Bradfordians lol...i thought most who posted said tripe worked fo Leeds City Council lol Your posts as usual Alf are full of complete untruths made up by putting a few unfortunate instances in this and many other cities then painting every Bradfordian with the same unfortunate brush. You need to get out more..get around the country because asylum seekers are everywhere. The city footfall is bucking the national trend...yes the city has started from a low position but the facts are there the stats are there...ignore them if you must but it is actually happening...the crowds of shoppers before Christmas were enormous even though the weather was terrible...after Christmas exactly the same...shoulder to shoulder...people were queued to the door in one particular shop on North Parade and Kirkgate was heaving. Yes three years ago Bradford was on it's knees regarding footfall in the city centre but that is certainly not the case now. Read it and weep!!!![/p][/quote]I am sorry we are at odds. I ventured for a £4 haircut near Oastler and your experience was not matched by the views of The market traders and barber. I am not alone in my condemnation. And if the 99 per cent majority who post comment on here see it aswell I do not think you can justify throwing untruth accusations. The only crowds I saw as usual were those congregating and filling the methodone chemist dispensary near North Parade. Was that the shop you saw them queuing shoulder to shoulder. So if this is the case why are all the business that have had representation in the city for some 100 years all finishing in 2012 and closing the doors for the last time. Fattorinis made the FA Cup your team so proudly won in 1911. I could go on and on. I do not tar ALL Bradfordians with the same brush. The majority of the good will now not set foot. I would count you as one of the good. Todays T &a again reports they are breaking into peoples homes with guns to steal £45000 and £60000 of family jewellry. Why shop at Fattorini"s when we can buy a gun (easily in this town apparently)and take someone elses gold without paying. Then no doubt smelt it and pawn it in the proliferation of pawn shops around the upper town. Smell the coffee. The tripe shop on Carlisle Road (Pie herberts)is sadly gone forever too. So I dont know where I will get my "tripe" as you eloquently put it in 2013. Happy New Year Smell the Coffee and good luck on Tuesday[/p][/quote]Alf...try Morrisons..i hear their tripe is nearly as good as yours. I thought Fattorinis moved to Harrogate years ago. Yes you may mock but i've yet to see any drug dealing either locally or further afield...the picture you paint is totally biased and not a true reflection of our fair city in any way shape or form. This forum's posters are not a scientific cross section of Bradfordian shoppers or their shopping habits...some are i'd venture a guess not even Bradfordians and do nothing but run our great city down. If folk want to pay inflated out of town prices good luck to them...i'd rather pay less for the same quality and so do thousands of other Bradfordians who flocked to the city centre shops aound Christmas and New Year.. To every Bradfordian thinking of shopping out of town...try the Kirkgate centre North Parade and the other excellent shops in Darley Street and Forster Square and save hard earned cash for exactly the same quality found at much higher prices else where.[/p][/quote]You are joking right? You are talking about footfall in Bradford city centre increasing and to back up your argument, you refer to the lead up to Christmas and the first few days of sales afterwards. Are those figures actually out yet (officially)? There may be some decent shops, but if I am serious about doing some shopping, I have to travel between Forster Square and the centre of Bradford. Parking is a nighmare and you want me to try to park in two separate car parks (e.g. JohnStreet and Forster Square)? Where is there a Debenhams? Where is the choice at M&S? The city is flooded with Pound shops (is this the quality you refer to?), betting shops and poorly kept outlets. I'm sorry if this doesn't please you, but I'd rather go to the White Rose or Meadowhall, than shop in Bradford. The area around the City Centre Park is lovely and, although I was concerned about the 'waste of money' at the time, it has realy opened up that part of the city. If we can now just do something with the old Odeon site, the old Debenhams/TJ Hughes site and finally get the Westfield shopping centre ready, it would really make a massive improvement. But don't start this rubbish about it being a great place to shop....cos it aint!!!![/p][/quote]No ...i'm not joking... are you. You really do need to read what i said. The last figures released approx three years ago regarding Bradford city centre's economy showed an increase in money spent in it's retail outlets and an increase in it's position ....Bradford went up five positions...granted from a poor starting position. That was prior to the City Park opening.....there has been according to the council and the Kirkgate centre a marked increase in footfall since then. We're always shopping in Bradford and we have noticed an increase in folk in the city centre over the last three years.... for me the last 18 months has seen a large increase in folk using the city centre and it's shops. Prior to the last three years for me the city centre was on it's knees...but that certainly isn't the case now. I've never understood the argument about pound shops...for me they serve folk like any other shop does, although there are far too many betting shops. We love the Bradford hand made shop at the bottom of Ivegate and the household store on North Parade is a treasure. I don't doubt you've had problems parking but we either get the train in or park in Forster Square retail park, two hours free parking . This isn't rubbish unlike alot of the tripe(Alf loves his tripe lol) posted on this thread, we as a family enjoy shopping in Bradford...but i do agree with you about the City Park...i too doubted the idea behind building it but have been pleasantly surprised...and agree 100% with your sentiments regarding Sunwin House, the Odeon and Westfield. Yes Bradford could do with more quality retail outlets but most folk can get everything they need when shopping in Bradford. We find it very economic to shop there and also find it a friendly and safe place to shop.[/p][/quote]Well the council tenants and some of those on benefits need to spend their money somewhere! Don't forget the drug dealers and thieves who also need to spend their ill gotten money somewhere. Don't forget all the dodgy claims that need to be spent.[/p][/quote]I"ll have to keep eating more tripe and talk less of it. Glad some share my tripe. BCfC 1903 must be a pie and pea man LOL Laugh....I nearly shat myself[/p][/quote]Alf...by all means eat more tripe but also try to talk/type more sense!!!!!! bcfc1903
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12:09pm Wed 9 Jan 13

Whoisevans? says...

Well done to the team for beating Villa last night and good luck for the 2nd leg. The lads played like hero's get Parky signed up and bring in some players to compliment what we have got.
Well done to the team for beating Villa last night and good luck for the 2nd leg. The lads played like hero's get Parky signed up and bring in some players to compliment what we have got. Whoisevans?
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