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12:41pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Twinkle toes4 says...

Easy win today I think 3- 0 city. Wells to get a hat trick. Will be interesting to see what team PP puts out today with Hanson and Richie jones doubts plus existing injuries
Easy win today I think 3- 0 city. Wells to get a hat trick. Will be interesting to see what team PP puts out today with Hanson and Richie jones doubts plus existing injuries Twinkle toes4
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1:32pm Sat 10 Nov 12

bcfc1903 says...

There are no easy games, any team with Brano involved either coaching or playing is going to be competitive.Good luck to all the lads both playing for and supporting Bradford City FC, I'd like for us to win but think it'll be a draw....i'll go for 1-1.

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Good luck to Brano for the rest of the season, after today of course.

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We shout with pride...we never hide....Claret and Amber.
There are no easy games, any team with Brano involved either coaching or playing is going to be competitive.Good luck to all the lads both playing for and supporting Bradford City FC, I'd like for us to win but think it'll be a draw....i'll go for 1-1. ** Good luck to Brano for the rest of the season, after today of course. ** We shout with pride...we never hide....Claret and Amber. bcfc1903
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1:47pm Sat 10 Nov 12

tyker2 says...

a tough game likely; we rarely show up at the Rec:where gardens and flowers adorn one end of the dground protectedby large nets running the width of the pitch. Aything clearing the height will kave missed by over 12 foot or more
a tough game likely; we rarely show up at the Rec:where gardens and flowers adorn one end of the dground protectedby large nets running the width of the pitch. Aything clearing the height will kave missed by over 12 foot or more tyker2
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3:16pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Waynus1971 says...

tyker2 wrote:
a tough game likely; we rarely show up at the Rec:where gardens and flowers adorn one end of the dground protectedby large nets running the width of the pitch. Aything clearing the height will kave missed by over 12 foot or more
I'm sure Hanson will manage it....! Great in the air, but.......
[quote][p][bold]tyker2[/bold] wrote: a tough game likely; we rarely show up at the Rec:where gardens and flowers adorn one end of the dground protectedby large nets running the width of the pitch. Aything clearing the height will kave missed by over 12 foot or more[/p][/quote]I'm sure Hanson will manage it....! Great in the air, but....... Waynus1971
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3:24pm Sat 10 Nov 12

sergioleone says...

little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?
little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal? sergioleone
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3:37pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Waynus1971 says...

sergioleone wrote:
little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?
Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above.

"Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc"

It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right...............
!
[quote][p][bold]sergioleone[/bold] wrote: little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?[/p][/quote]Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above. "Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc" It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right............... ! Waynus1971
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3:41pm Sat 10 Nov 12

sergioleone says...

ha ha......touchy...
ha ha......touchy... sergioleone
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3:50pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Waynus1971 says...

Just to show that I'm not all against Hanson, I will give him credit for forcing a save from the Shot's keeper, which allowed Wells to ram home the rebound.
Just to show that I'm not all against Hanson, I will give him credit for forcing a save from the Shot's keeper, which allowed Wells to ram home the rebound. Waynus1971
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3:57pm Sat 10 Nov 12

sergioleone says...

Waynus1971 wrote:
Just to show that I'm not all against Hanson, I will give him credit for forcing a save from the Shot's keeper, which allowed Wells to ram home the rebound.
very nice of you.Funny tho that every manager he has had whether semi-pro or pro has made him the focal point of the attack.Funny that innit pal ??
[quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: Just to show that I'm not all against Hanson, I will give him credit for forcing a save from the Shot's keeper, which allowed Wells to ram home the rebound.[/p][/quote]very nice of you.Funny tho that every manager he has had whether semi-pro or pro has made him the focal point of the attack.Funny that innit pal ?? sergioleone
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4:14pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Victor Clayton says...

sergioleone wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
Just to show that I'm not all against Hanson, I will give him credit for forcing a save from the Shot's keeper, which allowed Wells to ram home the rebound.
very nice of you.Funny tho that every manager he has had whether semi-pro or pro has made him the focal point of the attack.Funny that innit pal ??
I would have said most managers have tried to replace him. to his credit he is still there.
[quote][p][bold]sergioleone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: Just to show that I'm not all against Hanson, I will give him credit for forcing a save from the Shot's keeper, which allowed Wells to ram home the rebound.[/p][/quote]very nice of you.Funny tho that every manager he has had whether semi-pro or pro has made him the focal point of the attack.Funny that innit pal ??[/p][/quote]I would have said most managers have tried to replace him. to his credit he is still there. Victor Clayton
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4:16pm Sat 10 Nov 12

nowt fresh says...

sergioleone wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote: Just to show that I'm not all against Hanson, I will give him credit for forcing a save from the Shot's keeper, which allowed Wells to ram home the rebound.
very nice of you.Funny tho that every manager he has had whether semi-pro or pro has made him the focal point of the attack.Funny that innit pal ??
Honestly don't know why you bother answering anti Hanson comments from this guy, it was obvious to a blind man how much we missed Hanson on Tuesday night Chesterfield central defenders never got a sweat on,andNaki did not look the same player without the BIG man :-)), "puts his tin hat on ready for the flac".
[quote][p][bold]sergioleone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: Just to show that I'm not all against Hanson, I will give him credit for forcing a save from the Shot's keeper, which allowed Wells to ram home the rebound.[/p][/quote]very nice of you.Funny tho that every manager he has had whether semi-pro or pro has made him the focal point of the attack.Funny that innit pal ??[/p][/quote]Honestly don't know why you bother answering anti Hanson comments from this guy, it was obvious to a blind man how much we missed Hanson on Tuesday night Chesterfield central defenders never got a sweat on,andNaki did not look the same player without the BIG man :-)), "puts his tin hat on ready for the flac". nowt fresh
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4:20pm Sat 10 Nov 12

sergioleone says...

Victor Clayton wrote:
sergioleone wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote: Just to show that I'm not all against Hanson, I will give him credit for forcing a save from the Shot's keeper, which allowed Wells to ram home the rebound.
very nice of you.Funny tho that every manager he has had whether semi-pro or pro has made him the focal point of the attack.Funny that innit pal ??
I would have said most managers have tried to replace him. to his credit he is still there.
I would respond to that by saying dont believe everything you hear or read victor fella!!
[quote][p][bold]Victor Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sergioleone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: Just to show that I'm not all against Hanson, I will give him credit for forcing a save from the Shot's keeper, which allowed Wells to ram home the rebound.[/p][/quote]very nice of you.Funny tho that every manager he has had whether semi-pro or pro has made him the focal point of the attack.Funny that innit pal ??[/p][/quote]I would have said most managers have tried to replace him. to his credit he is still there.[/p][/quote]I would respond to that by saying dont believe everything you hear or read victor fella!! sergioleone
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4:25pm Sat 10 Nov 12

sergioleone says...

nowt fresh wrote:
sergioleone wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote: Just to show that I'm not all against Hanson, I will give him credit for forcing a save from the Shot's keeper, which allowed Wells to ram home the rebound.
very nice of you.Funny tho that every manager he has had whether semi-pro or pro has made him the focal point of the attack.Funny that innit pal ??
Honestly don't know why you bother answering anti Hanson comments from this guy, it was obvious to a blind man how much we missed Hanson on Tuesday night Chesterfield central defenders never got a sweat on,andNaki did not look the same player without the BIG man :-)), "puts his tin hat on ready for the flac".
some people dont have a clue mate.gives me a laugh anyway.lol
[quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sergioleone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: Just to show that I'm not all against Hanson, I will give him credit for forcing a save from the Shot's keeper, which allowed Wells to ram home the rebound.[/p][/quote]very nice of you.Funny tho that every manager he has had whether semi-pro or pro has made him the focal point of the attack.Funny that innit pal ??[/p][/quote]Honestly don't know why you bother answering anti Hanson comments from this guy, it was obvious to a blind man how much we missed Hanson on Tuesday night Chesterfield central defenders never got a sweat on,andNaki did not look the same player without the BIG man :-)), "puts his tin hat on ready for the flac".[/p][/quote]some people dont have a clue mate.gives me a laugh anyway.lol sergioleone
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5:02pm Sat 10 Nov 12

tyker2 says...

just heard that Hanson as had a good game and ,rightly, going to celebrate with a few ornage juices on his wayhome.

freddy. or is it waynus, get off Hanson's back. We look toothless without hom and hahki wells scores goals when they play together. Does that not tell you something that his work rate is creating chances. Or are you agin several managers who have decided that Hansn is the most difficult forward to play against.

Anyway the bogey of the rec has been broken at last. and we are still in the thick of it . dean hldsworth may be unemployed tonight!
just heard that Hanson as had a good game and ,rightly, going to celebrate with a few ornage juices on his wayhome. freddy. or is it waynus, get off Hanson's back. We look toothless without hom and hahki wells scores goals when they play together. Does that not tell you something that his work rate is creating chances. Or are you agin several managers who have decided that Hansn is the most difficult forward to play against. Anyway the bogey of the rec has been broken at last. and we are still in the thick of it . dean hldsworth may be unemployed tonight! tyker2
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5:48pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Pablo says...

Nahki Wells will confirm Hanson's worth to the team.

His value is never more evident than when he's missing. As stated earlier, Chesterfield was a classic example.
Nahki Wells will confirm Hanson's worth to the team. His value is never more evident than when he's missing. As stated earlier, Chesterfield was a classic example. Pablo
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6:21pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Victor Clayton says...

Well done City - up to 4th.
how did Forsyth play?
Well done City - up to 4th. how did Forsyth play? Victor Clayton
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6:35pm Sat 10 Nov 12

KnightMcCall says...

Victor Clayton wrote:
Well done City - up to 4th.
how did Forsyth play?
Forsythe was solid and gave city a second option in the air to help JH. To be honest, City were just as they were v Chesterfield but with a couple of goals to show for their efforts. The whole team were solid. Forsythe will also have enjoyed his parent clubs result nearly as much as I did.
[quote][p][bold]Victor Clayton[/bold] wrote: Well done City - up to 4th. how did Forsyth play?[/p][/quote]Forsythe was solid and gave city a second option in the air to help JH. To be honest, City were just as they were v Chesterfield but with a couple of goals to show for their efforts. The whole team were solid. Forsythe will also have enjoyed his parent clubs result nearly as much as I did. KnightMcCall
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6:39pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Victor Clayton says...

KnightMcCall wrote:
Victor Clayton wrote:
Well done City - up to 4th.
how did Forsyth play?
Forsythe was solid and gave city a second option in the air to help JH. To be honest, City were just as they were v Chesterfield but with a couple of goals to show for their efforts. The whole team were solid. Forsythe will also have enjoyed his parent clubs result nearly as much as I did.
thanks, it was a shame he didn't come on a bit earlier last week. it might not have made any difference but who knowsn and could not have done any harm.
[quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Victor Clayton[/bold] wrote: Well done City - up to 4th. how did Forsyth play?[/p][/quote]Forsythe was solid and gave city a second option in the air to help JH. To be honest, City were just as they were v Chesterfield but with a couple of goals to show for their efforts. The whole team were solid. Forsythe will also have enjoyed his parent clubs result nearly as much as I did.[/p][/quote]thanks, it was a shame he didn't come on a bit earlier last week. it might not have made any difference but who knowsn and could not have done any harm. Victor Clayton
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6:44pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Waynus1971 says...

Woah..... hold yer horses fellas. I said his shooting is off-kilter and made a comment to Tyker that he would clear the stand. AND HE DID....!

I have never dismissed his aerial power and the amount of work he does. He helped create Nahki's 2nd goal and I was more than happy to give him some credit because it was due..

What I do dismiss is that his presence in the team is often attributed to Nahki's goals. Our first today was all down to Wells (and a big mistake by their defender). I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them. It simply didn't work for us and although Wells had opportunities, he took the option of going to ground instead.
Woah..... hold yer horses fellas. I said his shooting is off-kilter and made a comment to Tyker that he would clear the stand. AND HE DID....! I have never dismissed his aerial power and the amount of work he does. He helped create Nahki's 2nd goal and I was more than happy to give him some credit because it was due.. What I do dismiss is that his presence in the team is often attributed to Nahki's goals. Our first today was all down to Wells (and a big mistake by their defender). I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them. It simply didn't work for us and although Wells had opportunities, he took the option of going to ground instead. Waynus1971
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7:03pm Sat 10 Nov 12

sergioleone says...

Waynus1971 wrote:
Woah..... hold yer horses fellas. I said his shooting is off-kilter and made a comment to Tyker that he would clear the stand. AND HE DID....! I have never dismissed his aerial power and the amount of work he does. He helped create Nahki's 2nd goal and I was more than happy to give him some credit because it was due.. What I do dismiss is that his presence in the team is often attributed to Nahki's goals. Our first today was all down to Wells (and a big mistake by their defender). I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them. It simply didn't work for us and although Wells had opportunities, he took the option of going to ground instead.
yaaaawwwwnnnn!zzzzzz
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[quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: Woah..... hold yer horses fellas. I said his shooting is off-kilter and made a comment to Tyker that he would clear the stand. AND HE DID....! I have never dismissed his aerial power and the amount of work he does. He helped create Nahki's 2nd goal and I was more than happy to give him some credit because it was due.. What I do dismiss is that his presence in the team is often attributed to Nahki's goals. Our first today was all down to Wells (and a big mistake by their defender). I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them. It simply didn't work for us and although Wells had opportunities, he took the option of going to ground instead.[/p][/quote]yaaaawwwwnnnn!zzzzzz zz sergioleone
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7:04pm Sat 10 Nov 12

lonniejockstrap says...

Waynus1971 wrote:
sergioleone wrote:
little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?
Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above.

"Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc"

It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right...............

!
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You need to get off Hanson's back Waynus you really are overdoing it and it's reflecting pretty badly on you as a person in my opinion.

A lot of opponent managers rate and commented on his effectiveness in causing their teams a problem, AND every manager we have had since he's been at the Club has had him in the team when fit. So either you know more about professional football than all those professional managers or you are so hell bent on wanting to be proved right -eventually- that you are wishing for him to do badly and go out of your way to point out every fault or mistake of his.

He might not be of international level but he is certainly worthy of being in our team.
[quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sergioleone[/bold] wrote: little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?[/p][/quote]Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above. "Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc" It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right............... ![/p][/quote]Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You need to get off Hanson's back Waynus you really are overdoing it and it's reflecting pretty badly on you as a person in my opinion. A lot of opponent managers rate and commented on his effectiveness in causing their teams a problem, AND every manager we have had since he's been at the Club has had him in the team when fit. So either you know more about professional football than all those professional managers or you are so hell bent on wanting to be proved right -eventually- that you are wishing for him to do badly and go out of your way to point out every fault or mistake of his. He might not be of international level but he is certainly worthy of being in our team. lonniejockstrap
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7:07pm Sat 10 Nov 12

sergioleone says...

lonniejockstrap wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
sergioleone wrote: little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?
Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above. "Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc" It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right............... !
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You need to get off Hanson's back Waynus you really are overdoing it and it's reflecting pretty badly on you as a person in my opinion. A lot of opponent managers rate and commented on his effectiveness in causing their teams a problem, AND every manager we have had since he's been at the Club has had him in the team when fit. So either you know more about professional football than all those professional managers or you are so hell bent on wanting to be proved right -eventually- that you are wishing for him to do badly and go out of your way to point out every fault or mistake of his. He might not be of international level but he is certainly worthy of being in our team.
waynus,have a listen to holdsworths post-match interview and then do one you sad LITTLE person.
[quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sergioleone[/bold] wrote: little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?[/p][/quote]Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above. "Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc" It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right............... ![/p][/quote]Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You need to get off Hanson's back Waynus you really are overdoing it and it's reflecting pretty badly on you as a person in my opinion. A lot of opponent managers rate and commented on his effectiveness in causing their teams a problem, AND every manager we have had since he's been at the Club has had him in the team when fit. So either you know more about professional football than all those professional managers or you are so hell bent on wanting to be proved right -eventually- that you are wishing for him to do badly and go out of your way to point out every fault or mistake of his. He might not be of international level but he is certainly worthy of being in our team.[/p][/quote]waynus,have a listen to holdsworths post-match interview and then do one you sad LITTLE person. sergioleone
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7:31pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Pablo says...

lonniejockstrap wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
sergioleone wrote:
little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?
Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above.

"Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc"

It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right...............


!
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You need to get off Hanson's back Waynus you really are overdoing it and it's reflecting pretty badly on you as a person in my opinion.

A lot of opponent managers rate and commented on his effectiveness in causing their teams a problem, AND every manager we have had since he's been at the Club has had him in the team when fit. So either you know more about professional football than all those professional managers or you are so hell bent on wanting to be proved right -eventually- that you are wishing for him to do badly and go out of your way to point out every fault or mistake of his.

He might not be of international level but he is certainly worthy of being in our team.
Agreed, lonnie.

I would imagine Hanson's name is one of the first on the team sheet.

We have nobody else like him at the the club and his replacement is Thompson. Enough said!
[quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sergioleone[/bold] wrote: little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?[/p][/quote]Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above. "Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc" It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right............... ![/p][/quote]Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You need to get off Hanson's back Waynus you really are overdoing it and it's reflecting pretty badly on you as a person in my opinion. A lot of opponent managers rate and commented on his effectiveness in causing their teams a problem, AND every manager we have had since he's been at the Club has had him in the team when fit. So either you know more about professional football than all those professional managers or you are so hell bent on wanting to be proved right -eventually- that you are wishing for him to do badly and go out of your way to point out every fault or mistake of his. He might not be of international level but he is certainly worthy of being in our team.[/p][/quote]Agreed, lonnie. I would imagine Hanson's name is one of the first on the team sheet. We have nobody else like him at the the club and his replacement is Thompson. Enough said! Pablo
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7:40pm Sat 10 Nov 12

al&co says...

This was a good win and Hanson played his part. I was at the game.

He is never going to be an Intenational but he is an asset to our team and played a major part in our first goal - he is a handful for defenders just by his presence and he should be judged for what he is - a league two centre forward and still learning!

I wish he could score more goals but he always puts a shift in and he did well today.

We were the better team in what was a scrappy game and generally pretty solid throughout.

However, we will face greater challenges - Aldershot are struggling and it showed.

Duke has done well recently but he frightens me to death on crosses and I think we need to be stronger in goal as we pepare for the long haul.

A good three points with good commitment all over the field - job done.

I hope we can last the pace in what is very busy period of games.

So far - so good....
This was a good win and Hanson played his part. I was at the game. He is never going to be an Intenational but he is an asset to our team and played a major part in our first goal - he is a handful for defenders just by his presence and he should be judged for what he is - a league two centre forward and still learning! I wish he could score more goals but he always puts a shift in and he did well today. We were the better team in what was a scrappy game and generally pretty solid throughout. However, we will face greater challenges - Aldershot are struggling and it showed. Duke has done well recently but he frightens me to death on crosses and I think we need to be stronger in goal as we pepare for the long haul. A good three points with good commitment all over the field - job done. I hope we can last the pace in what is very busy period of games. So far - so good.... al&co
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7:45pm Sat 10 Nov 12

nowt fresh says...

Waynus1971 wrote:
Woah..... hold yer horses fellas. I said his shooting is off-kilter and made a comment to Tyker that he would clear the stand. AND HE DID....! I have never dismissed his aerial power and the amount of work he does. He helped create Nahki's 2nd goal and I was more than happy to give him some credit because it was due.. What I do dismiss is that his presence in the team is often attributed to Nahki's goals. Our first today was all down to Wells (and a big mistake by their defender). I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them. It simply didn't work for us and although Wells had opportunities, he took the option of going to ground instead.
Please tell us all why you believe this comment you posted " I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them" we will never know but please enlighten us all, Chesterfields two central defenders never broke sweat because there was no physical presence from the front two or the team in general so don't understand your comment we will never know it's like me saying I believe we would have won the game with Hanson ?,the one thing that can be said Waynus1971 is there centre halves would have been busier with Hanson in the side than not surely you saw that on Tuesday night ?.
[quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: Woah..... hold yer horses fellas. I said his shooting is off-kilter and made a comment to Tyker that he would clear the stand. AND HE DID....! I have never dismissed his aerial power and the amount of work he does. He helped create Nahki's 2nd goal and I was more than happy to give him some credit because it was due.. What I do dismiss is that his presence in the team is often attributed to Nahki's goals. Our first today was all down to Wells (and a big mistake by their defender). I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them. It simply didn't work for us and although Wells had opportunities, he took the option of going to ground instead.[/p][/quote]Please tell us all why you believe this comment you posted " I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them" we will never know but please enlighten us all, Chesterfields two central defenders never broke sweat because there was no physical presence from the front two or the team in general so don't understand your comment we will never know it's like me saying I believe we would have won the game with Hanson ?,the one thing that can be said Waynus1971 is there centre halves would have been busier with Hanson in the side than not surely you saw that on Tuesday night ?. nowt fresh
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7:51pm Sat 10 Nov 12

nowt fresh says...

Waynus1971 wrote:
Woah..... hold yer horses fellas. I said his shooting is off-kilter and made a comment to Tyker that he would clear the stand. AND HE DID....! I have never dismissed his aerial power and the amount of work he does. He helped create Nahki's 2nd goal and I was more than happy to give him some credit because it was due.. What I do dismiss is that his presence in the team is often attributed to Nahki's goals. Our first today was all down to Wells (and a big mistake by their defender). I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them. It simply didn't work for us and although Wells had opportunities, he took the option of going to ground instead.
Read al&co post he was at the game and said " This was a good win and Hanson played his part. I was at the game.

He is never going to be an Intenational but he is an asset to our team and played a major part in our first goal - he is a handful for defenders just by his presence and he should be judged for what he is - a league two centre forward and still learning"????.
[quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: Woah..... hold yer horses fellas. I said his shooting is off-kilter and made a comment to Tyker that he would clear the stand. AND HE DID....! I have never dismissed his aerial power and the amount of work he does. He helped create Nahki's 2nd goal and I was more than happy to give him some credit because it was due.. What I do dismiss is that his presence in the team is often attributed to Nahki's goals. Our first today was all down to Wells (and a big mistake by their defender). I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them. It simply didn't work for us and although Wells had opportunities, he took the option of going to ground instead.[/p][/quote]Read al&co post he was at the game and said " This was a good win and Hanson played his part. I was at the game. He is never going to be an Intenational but he is an asset to our team and played a major part in our first goal - he is a handful for defenders just by his presence and he should be judged for what he is - a league two centre forward and still learning"????. nowt fresh
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8:08pm Sat 10 Nov 12

bcfc1903 says...

Ditto Lonnie. Excellent post again mate. Regarding Hanson and Wells...surely the best central forward pairing in league two. I think a big well done to our defence, McArdle, Egan and McHugh have done fantastic work since both Oliver and Davies got sidelined...thought we'd struggle badly without these two rocks but the Irish have done our club proud, well done lads and well done to all the players, management and supporters for coming through such a hard series of away games with a good haul of points and great support. i think Duke also deserves great credit for coming in to the team and performing solidly and on occasions brilliantly with very very few goals conceeded.

**
We shout with pride...we never hide...Claret and Amber.
Ditto Lonnie. Excellent post again mate. Regarding Hanson and Wells...surely the best central forward pairing in league two. I think a big well done to our defence, McArdle, Egan and McHugh have done fantastic work since both Oliver and Davies got sidelined...thought we'd struggle badly without these two rocks but the Irish have done our club proud, well done lads and well done to all the players, management and supporters for coming through such a hard series of away games with a good haul of points and great support. i think Duke also deserves great credit for coming in to the team and performing solidly and on occasions brilliantly with very very few goals conceeded. ** We shout with pride...we never hide...Claret and Amber. bcfc1903
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8:17pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Victor Clayton says...

lonniejockstrap wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
sergioleone wrote:
little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?
Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above.

"Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc"

It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right...............


!
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You need to get off Hanson's back Waynus you really are overdoing it and it's reflecting pretty badly on you as a person in my opinion.

A lot of opponent managers rate and commented on his effectiveness in causing their teams a problem, AND every manager we have had since he's been at the Club has had him in the team when fit. So either you know more about professional football than all those professional managers or you are so hell bent on wanting to be proved right -eventually- that you are wishing for him to do badly and go out of your way to point out every fault or mistake of his.

He might not be of international level but he is certainly worthy of being in our team.
to be fair to Waynus he has said very little wrong and to me seemed like a bit of banter. I can not think of any poster who has not agreed that JH is deserved of his place. but this jumping on anyone who is not gushing about him seems OTT to me!
[quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sergioleone[/bold] wrote: little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?[/p][/quote]Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above. "Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc" It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right............... ![/p][/quote]Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You need to get off Hanson's back Waynus you really are overdoing it and it's reflecting pretty badly on you as a person in my opinion. A lot of opponent managers rate and commented on his effectiveness in causing their teams a problem, AND every manager we have had since he's been at the Club has had him in the team when fit. So either you know more about professional football than all those professional managers or you are so hell bent on wanting to be proved right -eventually- that you are wishing for him to do badly and go out of your way to point out every fault or mistake of his. He might not be of international level but he is certainly worthy of being in our team.[/p][/quote]to be fair to Waynus he has said very little wrong and to me seemed like a bit of banter. I can not think of any poster who has not agreed that JH is deserved of his place. but this jumping on anyone who is not gushing about him seems OTT to me! Victor Clayton
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8:17pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Victor Clayton says...

lonniejockstrap wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
sergioleone wrote:
little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?
Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above.

"Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc"

It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right...............


!
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You need to get off Hanson's back Waynus you really are overdoing it and it's reflecting pretty badly on you as a person in my opinion.

A lot of opponent managers rate and commented on his effectiveness in causing their teams a problem, AND every manager we have had since he's been at the Club has had him in the team when fit. So either you know more about professional football than all those professional managers or you are so hell bent on wanting to be proved right -eventually- that you are wishing for him to do badly and go out of your way to point out every fault or mistake of his.

He might not be of international level but he is certainly worthy of being in our team.
to be fair to Waynus he has said very little wrong and to me seemed like a bit of banter. I can not think of any poster who has not agreed that JH is deserved of his place. but this jumping on anyone who is not gushing about him seems OTT to me!
[quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sergioleone[/bold] wrote: little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?[/p][/quote]Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above. "Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc" It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right............... ![/p][/quote]Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You need to get off Hanson's back Waynus you really are overdoing it and it's reflecting pretty badly on you as a person in my opinion. A lot of opponent managers rate and commented on his effectiveness in causing their teams a problem, AND every manager we have had since he's been at the Club has had him in the team when fit. So either you know more about professional football than all those professional managers or you are so hell bent on wanting to be proved right -eventually- that you are wishing for him to do badly and go out of your way to point out every fault or mistake of his. He might not be of international level but he is certainly worthy of being in our team.[/p][/quote]to be fair to Waynus he has said very little wrong and to me seemed like a bit of banter. I can not think of any poster who has not agreed that JH is deserved of his place. but this jumping on anyone who is not gushing about him seems OTT to me! Victor Clayton
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8:37pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Waynus1971 says...

lonniejockstrap wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
sergioleone wrote:
little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?
Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above.

"Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc"

It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right...............


!
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You need to get off Hanson's back Waynus you really are overdoing it and it's reflecting pretty badly on you as a person in my opinion.

A lot of opponent managers rate and commented on his effectiveness in causing their teams a problem, AND every manager we have had since he's been at the Club has had him in the team when fit. So either you know more about professional football than all those professional managers or you are so hell bent on wanting to be proved right -eventually- that you are wishing for him to do badly and go out of your way to point out every fault or mistake of his.

He might not be of international level but he is certainly worthy of being in our team.
Lonnie, what is your problem. Can you not find anyone that can read my posts to you...?

Where did I have a go at Hanson or suggest he has no 'effectiveness' or that he doesn't 'cause teams problems'? Any idiot can see that he puts so much pressure on the opposition back-line with his aerial threat and constant chasing down. I have NEVER said anything to the contrary..!

My comment was in relation to Tyker's post "Aything clearing the height will kave missed by over 12 foot or more". I replied that Hanson would manage it and within 5 minutes .... HE HAD.

That wasn't a dig, it was more like banter, but straight away, the likes of yourself and others felt the need to turn the whole thing negative.

I will say it again, (so your minder can read it out to you). James hanson is a good centre forward. He is very good in the air. He makes it hard for defenders to defend against him and his work ethic is to be applauded. When he chases down and Wells does likewise, the opposition defenders know they have been in the game.

The only area I believe he needs to work on is his finishing. I'm not expecting him to like Wells, but why does he not attack deliveries in our box like he does out of it and in our own box?
[quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sergioleone[/bold] wrote: little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?[/p][/quote]Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above. "Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc" It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right............... ![/p][/quote]Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You need to get off Hanson's back Waynus you really are overdoing it and it's reflecting pretty badly on you as a person in my opinion. A lot of opponent managers rate and commented on his effectiveness in causing their teams a problem, AND every manager we have had since he's been at the Club has had him in the team when fit. So either you know more about professional football than all those professional managers or you are so hell bent on wanting to be proved right -eventually- that you are wishing for him to do badly and go out of your way to point out every fault or mistake of his. He might not be of international level but he is certainly worthy of being in our team.[/p][/quote]Lonnie, what is your problem. Can you not find anyone that can read my posts to you...? Where did I have a go at Hanson or suggest he has no 'effectiveness' or that he doesn't 'cause teams problems'? Any idiot can see that he puts so much pressure on the opposition back-line with his aerial threat and constant chasing down. I have NEVER said anything to the contrary..! My comment was in relation to Tyker's post "Aything clearing the height will kave missed by over 12 foot or more". I replied that Hanson would manage it and within 5 minutes .... HE HAD. That wasn't a dig, it was more like banter, but straight away, the likes of yourself and others felt the need to turn the whole thing negative. I will say it again, (so your minder can read it out to you). James hanson is a good centre forward. He is very good in the air. He makes it hard for defenders to defend against him and his work ethic is to be applauded. When he chases down and Wells does likewise, the opposition defenders know they have been in the game. The only area I believe he needs to work on is his finishing. I'm not expecting him to like Wells, but why does he not attack deliveries in our box like he does out of it and in our own box? Waynus1971
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8:38pm Sat 10 Nov 12

balbrigganfc says...

This week saw two amazing predictions with City crushing Aldershot away from home, and Watford destroying L666s at Bellend Road. Didn't we beat Watford away from home this season?

Come on you Bantams CTID
This week saw two amazing predictions with City crushing Aldershot away from home, and Watford destroying L666s at Bellend Road. Didn't we beat Watford away from home this season? Come on you Bantams CTID balbrigganfc
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8:41pm Sat 10 Nov 12

lonniejockstrap says...

Victor Clayton wrote:
lonniejockstrap wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
sergioleone wrote:
little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?
Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above.

"Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc"

It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right...............



!
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You need to get off Hanson's back Waynus you really are overdoing it and it's reflecting pretty badly on you as a person in my opinion.

A lot of opponent managers rate and commented on his effectiveness in causing their teams a problem, AND every manager we have had since he's been at the Club has had him in the team when fit. So either you know more about professional football than all those professional managers or you are so hell bent on wanting to be proved right -eventually- that you are wishing for him to do badly and go out of your way to point out every fault or mistake of his.

He might not be of international level but he is certainly worthy of being in our team.
to be fair to Waynus he has said very little wrong and to me seemed like a bit of banter. I can not think of any poster who has not agreed that JH is deserved of his place. but this jumping on anyone who is not gushing about him seems OTT to me!
Don't worry yourself over it victor, maybe you have just come out of a coma and are unaware of waynus regularly choosing to publicly highlight Hanson's human failings -as he sees them. Even the pulse has refused to put up with waynus's constant digs and won't read out his constant communication with them using his form of 'banter' at Hanson's expense.

Not aware of anyone on here 'gushing' at Hanson -although I could name a fair few managers of teams we have played who have been close to gushing over his impact on the game- just people wanting waynus to leave off the lad.
[quote][p][bold]Victor Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sergioleone[/bold] wrote: little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?[/p][/quote]Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above. "Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc" It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right............... ![/p][/quote]Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You need to get off Hanson's back Waynus you really are overdoing it and it's reflecting pretty badly on you as a person in my opinion. A lot of opponent managers rate and commented on his effectiveness in causing their teams a problem, AND every manager we have had since he's been at the Club has had him in the team when fit. So either you know more about professional football than all those professional managers or you are so hell bent on wanting to be proved right -eventually- that you are wishing for him to do badly and go out of your way to point out every fault or mistake of his. He might not be of international level but he is certainly worthy of being in our team.[/p][/quote]to be fair to Waynus he has said very little wrong and to me seemed like a bit of banter. I can not think of any poster who has not agreed that JH is deserved of his place. but this jumping on anyone who is not gushing about him seems OTT to me![/p][/quote]Don't worry yourself over it victor, maybe you have just come out of a coma and are unaware of waynus regularly choosing to publicly highlight Hanson's human failings -as he sees them. Even the pulse has refused to put up with waynus's constant digs and won't read out his constant communication with them using his form of 'banter' at Hanson's expense. Not aware of anyone on here 'gushing' at Hanson -although I could name a fair few managers of teams we have played who have been close to gushing over his impact on the game- just people wanting waynus to leave off the lad. lonniejockstrap
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8:48pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Waynus1971 says...

nowt fresh wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
Woah..... hold yer horses fellas. I said his shooting is off-kilter and made a comment to Tyker that he would clear the stand. AND HE DID....! I have never dismissed his aerial power and the amount of work he does. He helped create Nahki's 2nd goal and I was more than happy to give him some credit because it was due.. What I do dismiss is that his presence in the team is often attributed to Nahki's goals. Our first today was all down to Wells (and a big mistake by their defender). I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them. It simply didn't work for us and although Wells had opportunities, he took the option of going to ground instead.
Please tell us all why you believe this comment you posted " I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them" we will never know but please enlighten us all, Chesterfields two central defenders never broke sweat because there was no physical presence from the front two or the team in general so don't understand your comment we will never know it's like me saying I believe we would have won the game with Hanson ?,the one thing that can be said Waynus1971 is there centre halves would have been busier with Hanson in the side than not surely you saw that on Tuesday night ?.
Yes, the Chesterfield defenders would have been busier, but let's be honest here. Hanson does most of his work OUTSIDE the box. He often drops too deep (for the cause) and when he does flick on, Wells is is still 20+ yards from goal and still has a lot to do.

You are right that the defenders would have been worked harder, but how does that automatically equal a goal? Hanson hasn't looked like scoring himself for a while (albeit had a chance saved which fell to Wells today) and the rest of team on Tuesday just didn't create enough for our front two.

I just don't believe Hanson would have made a difference on that score. Hines was poor, Atkinson tried but didn't create much and Jones & Doyle are not going to create much (other than set-pieces). How would Hanson (and his hard-working performances) have changed that?
[quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: Woah..... hold yer horses fellas. I said his shooting is off-kilter and made a comment to Tyker that he would clear the stand. AND HE DID....! I have never dismissed his aerial power and the amount of work he does. He helped create Nahki's 2nd goal and I was more than happy to give him some credit because it was due.. What I do dismiss is that his presence in the team is often attributed to Nahki's goals. Our first today was all down to Wells (and a big mistake by their defender). I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them. It simply didn't work for us and although Wells had opportunities, he took the option of going to ground instead.[/p][/quote]Please tell us all why you believe this comment you posted " I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them" we will never know but please enlighten us all, Chesterfields two central defenders never broke sweat because there was no physical presence from the front two or the team in general so don't understand your comment we will never know it's like me saying I believe we would have won the game with Hanson ?,the one thing that can be said Waynus1971 is there centre halves would have been busier with Hanson in the side than not surely you saw that on Tuesday night ?.[/p][/quote]Yes, the Chesterfield defenders would have been busier, but let's be honest here. Hanson does most of his work OUTSIDE the box. He often drops too deep (for the cause) and when he does flick on, Wells is is still 20+ yards from goal and still has a lot to do. You are right that the defenders would have been worked harder, but how does that automatically equal a goal? Hanson hasn't looked like scoring himself for a while (albeit had a chance saved which fell to Wells today) and the rest of team on Tuesday just didn't create enough for our front two. I just don't believe Hanson would have made a difference on that score. Hines was poor, Atkinson tried but didn't create much and Jones & Doyle are not going to create much (other than set-pieces). How would Hanson (and his hard-working performances) have changed that? Waynus1971
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8:56pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Waynus1971 says...

lonniejockstrap wrote:
Victor Clayton wrote:
lonniejockstrap wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
sergioleone wrote:
little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?
Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above.

"Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc"

It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right...............




!
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You need to get off Hanson's back Waynus you really are overdoing it and it's reflecting pretty badly on you as a person in my opinion.

A lot of opponent managers rate and commented on his effectiveness in causing their teams a problem, AND every manager we have had since he's been at the Club has had him in the team when fit. So either you know more about professional football than all those professional managers or you are so hell bent on wanting to be proved right -eventually- that you are wishing for him to do badly and go out of your way to point out every fault or mistake of his.

He might not be of international level but he is certainly worthy of being in our team.
to be fair to Waynus he has said very little wrong and to me seemed like a bit of banter. I can not think of any poster who has not agreed that JH is deserved of his place. but this jumping on anyone who is not gushing about him seems OTT to me!
Don't worry yourself over it victor, maybe you have just come out of a coma and are unaware of waynus regularly choosing to publicly highlight Hanson's human failings -as he sees them. Even the pulse has refused to put up with waynus's constant digs and won't read out his constant communication with them using his form of 'banter' at Hanson's expense.

Not aware of anyone on here 'gushing' at Hanson -although I could name a fair few managers of teams we have played who have been close to gushing over his impact on the game- just people wanting waynus to leave off the lad.
Please do me a favour Lonnie. If you are going to accuse me of having Pulse reject reading out my posts, please tell all, what the discussions were about. Don't just make it a battle, paint both sides so others (that aren't aware), can make up their own judgements.

I will get you started, but you are more than welcome to paste the actual tweets. After one particular game, Tim Thornton was having a right go at Wells & Atkinson's performances. He went on to suggest that Connell be brought back in to the team to replace Wells. I tweeted that he clearly had his favourites. I asked why he never felt the need to criticise Hanson's performances in front of goal and it escalated from there.

The following week, whilst I was driving to the ground, Tim started the whole debate up again by re-reading my tweets from the previous week. During that game, Hanson missed from 3 yards out after his previous effort had been 'saved'. So, I simply pointed that out to Tim and commented that Wells HAD kept his place and SCORED.

I have nothing against Hanson, but I do believe he should be getting more efforts on goal and he should be scoring more goals. He did last season and the season before and.... well, you get my point...!
[quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Victor Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sergioleone[/bold] wrote: little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?[/p][/quote]Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above. "Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc" It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right............... ![/p][/quote]Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You need to get off Hanson's back Waynus you really are overdoing it and it's reflecting pretty badly on you as a person in my opinion. A lot of opponent managers rate and commented on his effectiveness in causing their teams a problem, AND every manager we have had since he's been at the Club has had him in the team when fit. So either you know more about professional football than all those professional managers or you are so hell bent on wanting to be proved right -eventually- that you are wishing for him to do badly and go out of your way to point out every fault or mistake of his. He might not be of international level but he is certainly worthy of being in our team.[/p][/quote]to be fair to Waynus he has said very little wrong and to me seemed like a bit of banter. I can not think of any poster who has not agreed that JH is deserved of his place. but this jumping on anyone who is not gushing about him seems OTT to me![/p][/quote]Don't worry yourself over it victor, maybe you have just come out of a coma and are unaware of waynus regularly choosing to publicly highlight Hanson's human failings -as he sees them. Even the pulse has refused to put up with waynus's constant digs and won't read out his constant communication with them using his form of 'banter' at Hanson's expense. Not aware of anyone on here 'gushing' at Hanson -although I could name a fair few managers of teams we have played who have been close to gushing over his impact on the game- just people wanting waynus to leave off the lad.[/p][/quote]Please do me a favour Lonnie. If you are going to accuse me of having Pulse reject reading out my posts, please tell all, what the discussions were about. Don't just make it a battle, paint both sides so others (that aren't aware), can make up their own judgements. I will get you started, but you are more than welcome to paste the actual tweets. After one particular game, Tim Thornton was having a right go at Wells & Atkinson's performances. He went on to suggest that Connell be brought back in to the team to replace Wells. I tweeted that he clearly had his favourites. I asked why he never felt the need to criticise Hanson's performances in front of goal and it escalated from there. The following week, whilst I was driving to the ground, Tim started the whole debate up again by re-reading my tweets from the previous week. During that game, Hanson missed from 3 yards out after his previous effort had been 'saved'. So, I simply pointed that out to Tim and commented that Wells HAD kept his place and SCORED. I have nothing against Hanson, but I do believe he should be getting more efforts on goal and he should be scoring more goals. He did last season and the season before and.... well, you get my point...! Waynus1971
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8:59pm Sat 10 Nov 12

nowt fresh says...

Victor Clayton wrote:
lonniejockstrap wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
sergioleone wrote: little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?
Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above. "Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc" It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right............... !
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You need to get off Hanson's back Waynus you really are overdoing it and it's reflecting pretty badly on you as a person in my opinion. A lot of opponent managers rate and commented on his effectiveness in causing their teams a problem, AND every manager we have had since he's been at the Club has had him in the team when fit. So either you know more about professional football than all those professional managers or you are so hell bent on wanting to be proved right -eventually- that you are wishing for him to do badly and go out of your way to point out every fault or mistake of his. He might not be of international level but he is certainly worthy of being in our team.
to be fair to Waynus he has said very little wrong and to me seemed like a bit of banter. I can not think of any poster who has not agreed that JH is deserved of his place. but this jumping on anyone who is not gushing about him seems OTT to me!
Here's two comment he's made " Our first today was all down to Wells (and a big mistake by their defender)" yet al&co who went to the game said " This was a good win and Hanson played his part. I was at the game.

He is never going to be an International but he is an asset to our team and played a major part in our first goal" then he comes out with " I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them" that's why people respond to "his banter" I'll say it again and no doubt get my knuckles wrapped by Waynus1971, remember all the crap he came out with about Hanson drinking in the past and I suppose that was just banter as well, nobody is going OTT Waynus1971 does not help himself with he constant innuendos re James Hanson, I'll say no more as the Hanson debate is getting boring he's not the best thing since sliced bread but HE IS THE BEST TARGET MAN BRADFORD CITY HAVE AT THE MOMENT.
[quote][p][bold]Victor Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sergioleone[/bold] wrote: little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?[/p][/quote]Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above. "Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc" It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right............... ![/p][/quote]Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You need to get off Hanson's back Waynus you really are overdoing it and it's reflecting pretty badly on you as a person in my opinion. A lot of opponent managers rate and commented on his effectiveness in causing their teams a problem, AND every manager we have had since he's been at the Club has had him in the team when fit. So either you know more about professional football than all those professional managers or you are so hell bent on wanting to be proved right -eventually- that you are wishing for him to do badly and go out of your way to point out every fault or mistake of his. He might not be of international level but he is certainly worthy of being in our team.[/p][/quote]to be fair to Waynus he has said very little wrong and to me seemed like a bit of banter. I can not think of any poster who has not agreed that JH is deserved of his place. but this jumping on anyone who is not gushing about him seems OTT to me![/p][/quote]Here's two comment he's made " Our first today was all down to Wells (and a big mistake by their defender)" yet al&co who went to the game said " This was a good win and Hanson played his part. I was at the game. He is never going to be an International but he is an asset to our team and played a major part in our first goal" then he comes out with " I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them" that's why people respond to "his banter" I'll say it again and no doubt get my knuckles wrapped by Waynus1971, remember all the crap he came out with about Hanson drinking in the past and I suppose that was just banter as well, nobody is going OTT Waynus1971 does not help himself with he constant innuendos re James Hanson, I'll say no more as the Hanson debate is getting boring he's not the best thing since sliced bread but HE IS THE BEST TARGET MAN BRADFORD CITY HAVE AT THE MOMENT. nowt fresh
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9:03pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Waynus1971 says...

Victor Clayton wrote:
lonniejockstrap wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
sergioleone wrote:
little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?
Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above.

"Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc"

It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right...............



!
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You need to get off Hanson's back Waynus you really are overdoing it and it's reflecting pretty badly on you as a person in my opinion.

A lot of opponent managers rate and commented on his effectiveness in causing their teams a problem, AND every manager we have had since he's been at the Club has had him in the team when fit. So either you know more about professional football than all those professional managers or you are so hell bent on wanting to be proved right -eventually- that you are wishing for him to do badly and go out of your way to point out every fault or mistake of his.

He might not be of international level but he is certainly worthy of being in our team.
to be fair to Waynus he has said very little wrong and to me seemed like a bit of banter. I can not think of any poster who has not agreed that JH is deserved of his place. but this jumping on anyone who is not gushing about him seems OTT to me!
And there lies the problem Victor. I have never said that Hanson doesn't deserve to start if fit. He is the best striker, of his ilk, in our squad. He is similar to Akinfenwa, though probably better in the air, but not as good with his finishing.

Lonnie is now referring to my spats with the Pulse and no doubt someone will bring up my posts from a hundred years ago, when I commented that I had seen Hanson out drinking. The fact is, I don't dislike Hanson, I rate aspects of his game, but because I post where I think he needs to improve (thus not 'gushing' as some do), I come under attack.

Don't worry about it - I don't. Hope the highlights show his miss, when he cleared the 12ft stand... LOL
[quote][p][bold]Victor Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sergioleone[/bold] wrote: little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?[/p][/quote]Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above. "Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc" It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right............... ![/p][/quote]Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You need to get off Hanson's back Waynus you really are overdoing it and it's reflecting pretty badly on you as a person in my opinion. A lot of opponent managers rate and commented on his effectiveness in causing their teams a problem, AND every manager we have had since he's been at the Club has had him in the team when fit. So either you know more about professional football than all those professional managers or you are so hell bent on wanting to be proved right -eventually- that you are wishing for him to do badly and go out of your way to point out every fault or mistake of his. He might not be of international level but he is certainly worthy of being in our team.[/p][/quote]to be fair to Waynus he has said very little wrong and to me seemed like a bit of banter. I can not think of any poster who has not agreed that JH is deserved of his place. but this jumping on anyone who is not gushing about him seems OTT to me![/p][/quote]And there lies the problem Victor. I have never said that Hanson doesn't deserve to start if fit. He is the best striker, of his ilk, in our squad. He is similar to Akinfenwa, though probably better in the air, but not as good with his finishing. Lonnie is now referring to my spats with the Pulse and no doubt someone will bring up my posts from a hundred years ago, when I commented that I had seen Hanson out drinking. The fact is, I don't dislike Hanson, I rate aspects of his game, but because I post where I think he needs to improve (thus not 'gushing' as some do), I come under attack. Don't worry about it - I don't. Hope the highlights show his miss, when he cleared the 12ft stand... LOL Waynus1971
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9:03pm Sat 10 Nov 12

sergioleone says...

Waynus1971 wrote:
nowt fresh wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote: Woah..... hold yer horses fellas. I said his shooting is off-kilter and made a comment to Tyker that he would clear the stand. AND HE DID....! I have never dismissed his aerial power and the amount of work he does. He helped create Nahki's 2nd goal and I was more than happy to give him some credit because it was due.. What I do dismiss is that his presence in the team is often attributed to Nahki's goals. Our first today was all down to Wells (and a big mistake by their defender). I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them. It simply didn't work for us and although Wells had opportunities, he took the option of going to ground instead.
Please tell us all why you believe this comment you posted " I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them" we will never know but please enlighten us all, Chesterfields two central defenders never broke sweat because there was no physical presence from the front two or the team in general so don't understand your comment we will never know it's like me saying I believe we would have won the game with Hanson ?,the one thing that can be said Waynus1971 is there centre halves would have been busier with Hanson in the side than not surely you saw that on Tuesday night ?.
Yes, the Chesterfield defenders would have been busier, but let's be honest here. Hanson does most of his work OUTSIDE the box. He often drops too deep (for the cause) and when he does flick on, Wells is is still 20+ yards from goal and still has a lot to do. You are right that the defenders would have been worked harder, but how does that automatically equal a goal? Hanson hasn't looked like scoring himself for a while (albeit had a chance saved which fell to Wells today) and the rest of team on Tuesday just didn't create enough for our front two. I just don't believe Hanson would have made a difference on that score. Hines was poor, Atkinson tried but didn't create much and Jones & Doyle are not going to create much (other than set-pieces). How would Hanson (and his hard-working performances) have changed that?
Waynus,i will say it again,you haven't got a clue joker.How is it every time you post on here it is regarding our no.9?It comes across as very obsessive and i would seek help if i were you LITTLE man.
[quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: Woah..... hold yer horses fellas. I said his shooting is off-kilter and made a comment to Tyker that he would clear the stand. AND HE DID....! I have never dismissed his aerial power and the amount of work he does. He helped create Nahki's 2nd goal and I was more than happy to give him some credit because it was due.. What I do dismiss is that his presence in the team is often attributed to Nahki's goals. Our first today was all down to Wells (and a big mistake by their defender). I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them. It simply didn't work for us and although Wells had opportunities, he took the option of going to ground instead.[/p][/quote]Please tell us all why you believe this comment you posted " I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them" we will never know but please enlighten us all, Chesterfields two central defenders never broke sweat because there was no physical presence from the front two or the team in general so don't understand your comment we will never know it's like me saying I believe we would have won the game with Hanson ?,the one thing that can be said Waynus1971 is there centre halves would have been busier with Hanson in the side than not surely you saw that on Tuesday night ?.[/p][/quote]Yes, the Chesterfield defenders would have been busier, but let's be honest here. Hanson does most of his work OUTSIDE the box. He often drops too deep (for the cause) and when he does flick on, Wells is is still 20+ yards from goal and still has a lot to do. You are right that the defenders would have been worked harder, but how does that automatically equal a goal? Hanson hasn't looked like scoring himself for a while (albeit had a chance saved which fell to Wells today) and the rest of team on Tuesday just didn't create enough for our front two. I just don't believe Hanson would have made a difference on that score. Hines was poor, Atkinson tried but didn't create much and Jones & Doyle are not going to create much (other than set-pieces). How would Hanson (and his hard-working performances) have changed that?[/p][/quote]Waynus,i will say it again,you haven't got a clue joker.How is it every time you post on here it is regarding our no.9?It comes across as very obsessive and i would seek help if i were you LITTLE man. sergioleone
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9:09pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Onebrianmitchell says...

nowt fresh wrote:
Victor Clayton wrote:
lonniejockstrap wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
sergioleone wrote: little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?
Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above. "Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc" It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right............... !
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You need to get off Hanson's back Waynus you really are overdoing it and it's reflecting pretty badly on you as a person in my opinion. A lot of opponent managers rate and commented on his effectiveness in causing their teams a problem, AND every manager we have had since he's been at the Club has had him in the team when fit. So either you know more about professional football than all those professional managers or you are so hell bent on wanting to be proved right -eventually- that you are wishing for him to do badly and go out of your way to point out every fault or mistake of his. He might not be of international level but he is certainly worthy of being in our team.
to be fair to Waynus he has said very little wrong and to me seemed like a bit of banter. I can not think of any poster who has not agreed that JH is deserved of his place. but this jumping on anyone who is not gushing about him seems OTT to me!
Here's two comment he's made " Our first today was all down to Wells (and a big mistake by their defender)" yet al&co who went to the game said " This was a good win and Hanson played his part. I was at the game.

He is never going to be an International but he is an asset to our team and played a major part in our first goal" then he comes out with " I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them" that's why people respond to "his banter" I'll say it again and no doubt get my knuckles wrapped by Waynus1971, remember all the crap he came out with about Hanson drinking in the past and I suppose that was just banter as well, nobody is going OTT Waynus1971 does not help himself with he constant innuendos re James Hanson, I'll say no more as the Hanson debate is getting boring he's not the best thing since sliced bread but HE IS THE BEST TARGET MAN BRADFORD CITY HAVE AT THE MOMENT.
I agree with the last line in the quoted post. I also think that it should be noted, as others on here have pointed out, that he does untold great defensive work.

I don't understand however why people are so emotive when he is criticised.

The fact is we have played 17 league games, I aren't such an anorak to know how many he has played in, but he has scored only 4 goals.

At the moment he is forming a formidable partnership with Wells but with a record of 4 goals he will always attract his distractors. He is one of two strikers and performing the worst of the two goal wise.

I'm not knocking him, but the above points are very true.

Anyway let's get behind the boys !!
[quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Victor Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sergioleone[/bold] wrote: little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?[/p][/quote]Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above. "Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc" It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right............... ![/p][/quote]Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You need to get off Hanson's back Waynus you really are overdoing it and it's reflecting pretty badly on you as a person in my opinion. A lot of opponent managers rate and commented on his effectiveness in causing their teams a problem, AND every manager we have had since he's been at the Club has had him in the team when fit. So either you know more about professional football than all those professional managers or you are so hell bent on wanting to be proved right -eventually- that you are wishing for him to do badly and go out of your way to point out every fault or mistake of his. He might not be of international level but he is certainly worthy of being in our team.[/p][/quote]to be fair to Waynus he has said very little wrong and to me seemed like a bit of banter. I can not think of any poster who has not agreed that JH is deserved of his place. but this jumping on anyone who is not gushing about him seems OTT to me![/p][/quote]Here's two comment he's made " Our first today was all down to Wells (and a big mistake by their defender)" yet al&co who went to the game said " This was a good win and Hanson played his part. I was at the game. He is never going to be an International but he is an asset to our team and played a major part in our first goal" then he comes out with " I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them" that's why people respond to "his banter" I'll say it again and no doubt get my knuckles wrapped by Waynus1971, remember all the crap he came out with about Hanson drinking in the past and I suppose that was just banter as well, nobody is going OTT Waynus1971 does not help himself with he constant innuendos re James Hanson, I'll say no more as the Hanson debate is getting boring he's not the best thing since sliced bread but HE IS THE BEST TARGET MAN BRADFORD CITY HAVE AT THE MOMENT.[/p][/quote]I agree with the last line in the quoted post. I also think that it should be noted, as others on here have pointed out, that he does untold great defensive work. I don't understand however why people are so emotive when he is criticised. The fact is we have played 17 league games, I aren't such an anorak to know how many he has played in, but he has scored only 4 goals. At the moment he is forming a formidable partnership with Wells but with a record of 4 goals he will always attract his distractors. He is one of two strikers and performing the worst of the two goal wise. I'm not knocking him, but the above points are very true. Anyway let's get behind the boys !! Onebrianmitchell
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9:20pm Sat 10 Nov 12

sergioleone says...

Onebrianmitchell wrote:
nowt fresh wrote:
Victor Clayton wrote:
lonniejockstrap wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
sergioleone wrote: little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?
Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above. "Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc" It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right............... !
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You need to get off Hanson's back Waynus you really are overdoing it and it's reflecting pretty badly on you as a person in my opinion. A lot of opponent managers rate and commented on his effectiveness in causing their teams a problem, AND every manager we have had since he's been at the Club has had him in the team when fit. So either you know more about professional football than all those professional managers or you are so hell bent on wanting to be proved right -eventually- that you are wishing for him to do badly and go out of your way to point out every fault or mistake of his. He might not be of international level but he is certainly worthy of being in our team.
to be fair to Waynus he has said very little wrong and to me seemed like a bit of banter. I can not think of any poster who has not agreed that JH is deserved of his place. but this jumping on anyone who is not gushing about him seems OTT to me!
Here's two comment he's made " Our first today was all down to Wells (and a big mistake by their defender)" yet al&co who went to the game said " This was a good win and Hanson played his part. I was at the game. He is never going to be an International but he is an asset to our team and played a major part in our first goal" then he comes out with " I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them" that's why people respond to "his banter" I'll say it again and no doubt get my knuckles wrapped by Waynus1971, remember all the crap he came out with about Hanson drinking in the past and I suppose that was just banter as well, nobody is going OTT Waynus1971 does not help himself with he constant innuendos re James Hanson, I'll say no more as the Hanson debate is getting boring he's not the best thing since sliced bread but HE IS THE BEST TARGET MAN BRADFORD CITY HAVE AT THE MOMENT.
I agree with the last line in the quoted post. I also think that it should be noted, as others on here have pointed out, that he does untold great defensive work. I don't understand however why people are so emotive when he is criticised. The fact is we have played 17 league games, I aren't such an anorak to know how many he has played in, but he has scored only 4 goals. At the moment he is forming a formidable partnership with Wells but with a record of 4 goals he will always attract his distractors. He is one of two strikers and performing the worst of the two goal wise. I'm not knocking him, but the above points are very true. Anyway let's get behind the boys !!
good post mate,but the thing with poor old little waynus is that he has been giving the lad stick since he caught him necking 4 bottles of bud."shock-horror".I think he has a touch of ocd regarding the no.9,or he is trying to be famous on the back of him.?Just askin because i dont think he ever mentions any other player.
[quote][p][bold]Onebrianmitchell[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Victor Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sergioleone[/bold] wrote: little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?[/p][/quote]Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above. "Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc" It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right............... ![/p][/quote]Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You need to get off Hanson's back Waynus you really are overdoing it and it's reflecting pretty badly on you as a person in my opinion. A lot of opponent managers rate and commented on his effectiveness in causing their teams a problem, AND every manager we have had since he's been at the Club has had him in the team when fit. So either you know more about professional football than all those professional managers or you are so hell bent on wanting to be proved right -eventually- that you are wishing for him to do badly and go out of your way to point out every fault or mistake of his. He might not be of international level but he is certainly worthy of being in our team.[/p][/quote]to be fair to Waynus he has said very little wrong and to me seemed like a bit of banter. I can not think of any poster who has not agreed that JH is deserved of his place. but this jumping on anyone who is not gushing about him seems OTT to me![/p][/quote]Here's two comment he's made " Our first today was all down to Wells (and a big mistake by their defender)" yet al&co who went to the game said " This was a good win and Hanson played his part. I was at the game. He is never going to be an International but he is an asset to our team and played a major part in our first goal" then he comes out with " I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them" that's why people respond to "his banter" I'll say it again and no doubt get my knuckles wrapped by Waynus1971, remember all the crap he came out with about Hanson drinking in the past and I suppose that was just banter as well, nobody is going OTT Waynus1971 does not help himself with he constant innuendos re James Hanson, I'll say no more as the Hanson debate is getting boring he's not the best thing since sliced bread but HE IS THE BEST TARGET MAN BRADFORD CITY HAVE AT THE MOMENT.[/p][/quote]I agree with the last line in the quoted post. I also think that it should be noted, as others on here have pointed out, that he does untold great defensive work. I don't understand however why people are so emotive when he is criticised. The fact is we have played 17 league games, I aren't such an anorak to know how many he has played in, but he has scored only 4 goals. At the moment he is forming a formidable partnership with Wells but with a record of 4 goals he will always attract his distractors. He is one of two strikers and performing the worst of the two goal wise. I'm not knocking him, but the above points are very true. Anyway let's get behind the boys !![/p][/quote]good post mate,but the thing with poor old little waynus is that he has been giving the lad stick since he caught him necking 4 bottles of bud."shock-horror".I think he has a touch of ocd regarding the no.9,or he is trying to be famous on the back of him.?Just askin because i dont think he ever mentions any other player. sergioleone
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9:21pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Waynus1971 says...

nowt fresh wrote:
Victor Clayton wrote:
lonniejockstrap wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
sergioleone wrote: little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?
Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above. "Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc" It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right............... !
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You need to get off Hanson's back Waynus you really are overdoing it and it's reflecting pretty badly on you as a person in my opinion. A lot of opponent managers rate and commented on his effectiveness in causing their teams a problem, AND every manager we have had since he's been at the Club has had him in the team when fit. So either you know more about professional football than all those professional managers or you are so hell bent on wanting to be proved right -eventually- that you are wishing for him to do badly and go out of your way to point out every fault or mistake of his. He might not be of international level but he is certainly worthy of being in our team.
to be fair to Waynus he has said very little wrong and to me seemed like a bit of banter. I can not think of any poster who has not agreed that JH is deserved of his place. but this jumping on anyone who is not gushing about him seems OTT to me!
Here's two comment he's made " Our first today was all down to Wells (and a big mistake by their defender)" yet al&co who went to the game said " This was a good win and Hanson played his part. I was at the game.

He is never going to be an International but he is an asset to our team and played a major part in our first goal" then he comes out with " I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them" that's why people respond to "his banter" I'll say it again and no doubt get my knuckles wrapped by Waynus1971, remember all the crap he came out with about Hanson drinking in the past and I suppose that was just banter as well, nobody is going OTT Waynus1971 does not help himself with he constant innuendos re James Hanson, I'll say no more as the Hanson debate is getting boring he's not the best thing since sliced bread but HE IS THE BEST TARGET MAN BRADFORD CITY HAVE AT THE MOMENT.
BINGO.... I wondered when the first reference to 'drinking' would be made...! You guys do make me laugh.

As for Al&Co, he has got it wrong fella. Hanson had a significant part in our SECOND goal, because he had a shot saved and Wells tucked in the rebound. The first was down to a defensive error and Wells capitalising. That isn't me being negative, that is a fact...!

I didn't deny it was "a good win" or that "Hanson played his part". Read my posts again and you will find that!
[quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Victor Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sergioleone[/bold] wrote: little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?[/p][/quote]Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above. "Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc" It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right............... ![/p][/quote]Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You need to get off Hanson's back Waynus you really are overdoing it and it's reflecting pretty badly on you as a person in my opinion. A lot of opponent managers rate and commented on his effectiveness in causing their teams a problem, AND every manager we have had since he's been at the Club has had him in the team when fit. So either you know more about professional football than all those professional managers or you are so hell bent on wanting to be proved right -eventually- that you are wishing for him to do badly and go out of your way to point out every fault or mistake of his. He might not be of international level but he is certainly worthy of being in our team.[/p][/quote]to be fair to Waynus he has said very little wrong and to me seemed like a bit of banter. I can not think of any poster who has not agreed that JH is deserved of his place. but this jumping on anyone who is not gushing about him seems OTT to me![/p][/quote]Here's two comment he's made " Our first today was all down to Wells (and a big mistake by their defender)" yet al&co who went to the game said " This was a good win and Hanson played his part. I was at the game. He is never going to be an International but he is an asset to our team and played a major part in our first goal" then he comes out with " I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them" that's why people respond to "his banter" I'll say it again and no doubt get my knuckles wrapped by Waynus1971, remember all the crap he came out with about Hanson drinking in the past and I suppose that was just banter as well, nobody is going OTT Waynus1971 does not help himself with he constant innuendos re James Hanson, I'll say no more as the Hanson debate is getting boring he's not the best thing since sliced bread but HE IS THE BEST TARGET MAN BRADFORD CITY HAVE AT THE MOMENT.[/p][/quote]BINGO.... I wondered when the first reference to 'drinking' would be made...! You guys do make me laugh. As for Al&Co, he has got it wrong fella. Hanson had a significant part in our SECOND goal, because he had a shot saved and Wells tucked in the rebound. The first was down to a defensive error and Wells capitalising. That isn't me being negative, that is a fact...! I didn't deny it was "a good win" or that "Hanson played his part". Read my posts again and you will find that! Waynus1971
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9:29pm Sat 10 Nov 12

sergioleone says...

Waynus1971 wrote:
nowt fresh wrote:
Victor Clayton wrote:
lonniejockstrap wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
sergioleone wrote: little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?
Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above. "Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc" It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right............... !
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You need to get off Hanson's back Waynus you really are overdoing it and it's reflecting pretty badly on you as a person in my opinion. A lot of opponent managers rate and commented on his effectiveness in causing their teams a problem, AND every manager we have had since he's been at the Club has had him in the team when fit. So either you know more about professional football than all those professional managers or you are so hell bent on wanting to be proved right -eventually- that you are wishing for him to do badly and go out of your way to point out every fault or mistake of his. He might not be of international level but he is certainly worthy of being in our team.
to be fair to Waynus he has said very little wrong and to me seemed like a bit of banter. I can not think of any poster who has not agreed that JH is deserved of his place. but this jumping on anyone who is not gushing about him seems OTT to me!
Here's two comment he's made " Our first today was all down to Wells (and a big mistake by their defender)" yet al&co who went to the game said " This was a good win and Hanson played his part. I was at the game. He is never going to be an International but he is an asset to our team and played a major part in our first goal" then he comes out with " I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them" that's why people respond to "his banter" I'll say it again and no doubt get my knuckles wrapped by Waynus1971, remember all the crap he came out with about Hanson drinking in the past and I suppose that was just banter as well, nobody is going OTT Waynus1971 does not help himself with he constant innuendos re James Hanson, I'll say no more as the Hanson debate is getting boring he's not the best thing since sliced bread but HE IS THE BEST TARGET MAN BRADFORD CITY HAVE AT THE MOMENT.
BINGO.... I wondered when the first reference to 'drinking' would be made...! You guys do make me laugh. As for Al&Co, he has got it wrong fella. Hanson had a significant part in our SECOND goal, because he had a shot saved and Wells tucked in the rebound. The first was down to a defensive error and Wells capitalising. That isn't me being negative, that is a fact...! I didn't deny it was "a good win" or that "Hanson played his part". Read my posts again and you will find that!
sad,just so sad!bed-time waynus,have sweet dreams about jimmy,you never know he might buy you a drink next time you see him out on the town.
[quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Victor Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sergioleone[/bold] wrote: little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?[/p][/quote]Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above. "Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc" It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right............... ![/p][/quote]Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You need to get off Hanson's back Waynus you really are overdoing it and it's reflecting pretty badly on you as a person in my opinion. A lot of opponent managers rate and commented on his effectiveness in causing their teams a problem, AND every manager we have had since he's been at the Club has had him in the team when fit. So either you know more about professional football than all those professional managers or you are so hell bent on wanting to be proved right -eventually- that you are wishing for him to do badly and go out of your way to point out every fault or mistake of his. He might not be of international level but he is certainly worthy of being in our team.[/p][/quote]to be fair to Waynus he has said very little wrong and to me seemed like a bit of banter. I can not think of any poster who has not agreed that JH is deserved of his place. but this jumping on anyone who is not gushing about him seems OTT to me![/p][/quote]Here's two comment he's made " Our first today was all down to Wells (and a big mistake by their defender)" yet al&co who went to the game said " This was a good win and Hanson played his part. I was at the game. He is never going to be an International but he is an asset to our team and played a major part in our first goal" then he comes out with " I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them" that's why people respond to "his banter" I'll say it again and no doubt get my knuckles wrapped by Waynus1971, remember all the crap he came out with about Hanson drinking in the past and I suppose that was just banter as well, nobody is going OTT Waynus1971 does not help himself with he constant innuendos re James Hanson, I'll say no more as the Hanson debate is getting boring he's not the best thing since sliced bread but HE IS THE BEST TARGET MAN BRADFORD CITY HAVE AT THE MOMENT.[/p][/quote]BINGO.... I wondered when the first reference to 'drinking' would be made...! You guys do make me laugh. As for Al&Co, he has got it wrong fella. Hanson had a significant part in our SECOND goal, because he had a shot saved and Wells tucked in the rebound. The first was down to a defensive error and Wells capitalising. That isn't me being negative, that is a fact...! I didn't deny it was "a good win" or that "Hanson played his part". Read my posts again and you will find that![/p][/quote]sad,just so sad!bed-time waynus,have sweet dreams about jimmy,you never know he might buy you a drink next time you see him out on the town. sergioleone
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9:32pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Waynus1971 says...

sergioleone wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
nowt fresh wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote: Woah..... hold yer horses fellas. I said his shooting is off-kilter and made a comment to Tyker that he would clear the stand. AND HE DID....! I have never dismissed his aerial power and the amount of work he does. He helped create Nahki's 2nd goal and I was more than happy to give him some credit because it was due.. What I do dismiss is that his presence in the team is often attributed to Nahki's goals. Our first today was all down to Wells (and a big mistake by their defender). I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them. It simply didn't work for us and although Wells had opportunities, he took the option of going to ground instead.
Please tell us all why you believe this comment you posted " I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them" we will never know but please enlighten us all, Chesterfields two central defenders never broke sweat because there was no physical presence from the front two or the team in general so don't understand your comment we will never know it's like me saying I believe we would have won the game with Hanson ?,the one thing that can be said Waynus1971 is there centre halves would have been busier with Hanson in the side than not surely you saw that on Tuesday night ?.
Yes, the Chesterfield defenders would have been busier, but let's be honest here. Hanson does most of his work OUTSIDE the box. He often drops too deep (for the cause) and when he does flick on, Wells is is still 20+ yards from goal and still has a lot to do. You are right that the defenders would have been worked harder, but how does that automatically equal a goal? Hanson hasn't looked like scoring himself for a while (albeit had a chance saved which fell to Wells today) and the rest of team on Tuesday just didn't create enough for our front two. I just don't believe Hanson would have made a difference on that score. Hines was poor, Atkinson tried but didn't create much and Jones & Doyle are not going to create much (other than set-pieces). How would Hanson (and his hard-working performances) have changed that?
Waynus,i will say it again,you haven't got a clue joker.How is it every time you post on here it is regarding our no.9?It comes across as very obsessive and i would seek help if i were you LITTLE man.
Really, I didn't realise Hanson had any involvement in our ticket sales, but I commented on that story.!

The only person here that is obsessed is you my friend. Every posts to me has the word LITTLE in it. You don't even know me fella. I think it is you that needs helps....!

Funny that after my 2nd comment on this story, you appeared to take it in the humour it was intended. You even added a 'touche' after it. What happened, did you lose your sense of humour.
[quote][p][bold]sergioleone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: Woah..... hold yer horses fellas. I said his shooting is off-kilter and made a comment to Tyker that he would clear the stand. AND HE DID....! I have never dismissed his aerial power and the amount of work he does. He helped create Nahki's 2nd goal and I was more than happy to give him some credit because it was due.. What I do dismiss is that his presence in the team is often attributed to Nahki's goals. Our first today was all down to Wells (and a big mistake by their defender). I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them. It simply didn't work for us and although Wells had opportunities, he took the option of going to ground instead.[/p][/quote]Please tell us all why you believe this comment you posted " I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them" we will never know but please enlighten us all, Chesterfields two central defenders never broke sweat because there was no physical presence from the front two or the team in general so don't understand your comment we will never know it's like me saying I believe we would have won the game with Hanson ?,the one thing that can be said Waynus1971 is there centre halves would have been busier with Hanson in the side than not surely you saw that on Tuesday night ?.[/p][/quote]Yes, the Chesterfield defenders would have been busier, but let's be honest here. Hanson does most of his work OUTSIDE the box. He often drops too deep (for the cause) and when he does flick on, Wells is is still 20+ yards from goal and still has a lot to do. You are right that the defenders would have been worked harder, but how does that automatically equal a goal? Hanson hasn't looked like scoring himself for a while (albeit had a chance saved which fell to Wells today) and the rest of team on Tuesday just didn't create enough for our front two. I just don't believe Hanson would have made a difference on that score. Hines was poor, Atkinson tried but didn't create much and Jones & Doyle are not going to create much (other than set-pieces). How would Hanson (and his hard-working performances) have changed that?[/p][/quote]Waynus,i will say it again,you haven't got a clue joker.How is it every time you post on here it is regarding our no.9?It comes across as very obsessive and i would seek help if i were you LITTLE man.[/p][/quote]Really, I didn't realise Hanson had any involvement in our ticket sales, but I commented on that story.! The only person here that is obsessed is you my friend. Every posts to me has the word LITTLE in it. You don't even know me fella. I think it is you that needs helps....! Funny that after my 2nd comment on this story, you appeared to take it in the humour it was intended. You even added a 'touche' after it. What happened, did you lose your sense of humour. Waynus1971
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9:35pm Sat 10 Nov 12

lonniejockstrap says...

Waynus1971 wrote:
nowt fresh wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
Woah..... hold yer horses fellas. I said his shooting is off-kilter and made a comment to Tyker that he would clear the stand. AND HE DID....! I have never dismissed his aerial power and the amount of work he does. He helped create Nahki's 2nd goal and I was more than happy to give him some credit because it was due.. What I do dismiss is that his presence in the team is often attributed to Nahki's goals. Our first today was all down to Wells (and a big mistake by their defender). I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them. It simply didn't work for us and although Wells had opportunities, he took the option of going to ground instead.
Please tell us all why you believe this comment you posted " I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them" we will never know but please enlighten us all, Chesterfields two central defenders never broke sweat because there was no physical presence from the front two or the team in general so don't understand your comment we will never know it's like me saying I believe we would have won the game with Hanson ?,the one thing that can be said Waynus1971 is there centre halves would have been busier with Hanson in the side than not surely you saw that on Tuesday night ?.
Yes, the Chesterfield defenders would have been busier, but let's be honest here. Hanson does most of his work OUTSIDE the box. He often drops too deep (for the cause) and when he does flick on, Wells is is still 20+ yards from goal and still has a lot to do.

You are right that the defenders would have been worked harder, but how does that automatically equal a goal? Hanson hasn't looked like scoring himself for a while (albeit had a chance saved which fell to Wells today) and the rest of team on Tuesday just didn't create enough for our front two.

I just don't believe Hanson would have made a difference on that score. Hines was poor, Atkinson tried but didn't create much and Jones & Doyle are not going to create much (other than set-pieces). How would Hanson (and his hard-working performances) have changed that?
Maybe every ball that was won by a Chesterfield defender would have been won by Hanson? I don't recall us winning a single ball in the air against their defenders. If Hanson had have been winning and flicking on it may have meant them having to defend deeper which may have resulted in more space in midfield for us. It may also have meant more room for Hines as they sat deeper. It isn't just about how many goals Hanson scores -although where would we have been without his goals in previous seasons- it is also about how he makes a difference to how our opponents have to play. They have to try nullify him. He makes a difference to opponents gaining possession 40-50 yds out from their goal or 30-40 yds further back towards their goal. He doesn't have to score for opponent managers to mention what an impact he has had on the game, and they should know.
[quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: Woah..... hold yer horses fellas. I said his shooting is off-kilter and made a comment to Tyker that he would clear the stand. AND HE DID....! I have never dismissed his aerial power and the amount of work he does. He helped create Nahki's 2nd goal and I was more than happy to give him some credit because it was due.. What I do dismiss is that his presence in the team is often attributed to Nahki's goals. Our first today was all down to Wells (and a big mistake by their defender). I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them. It simply didn't work for us and although Wells had opportunities, he took the option of going to ground instead.[/p][/quote]Please tell us all why you believe this comment you posted " I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them" we will never know but please enlighten us all, Chesterfields two central defenders never broke sweat because there was no physical presence from the front two or the team in general so don't understand your comment we will never know it's like me saying I believe we would have won the game with Hanson ?,the one thing that can be said Waynus1971 is there centre halves would have been busier with Hanson in the side than not surely you saw that on Tuesday night ?.[/p][/quote]Yes, the Chesterfield defenders would have been busier, but let's be honest here. Hanson does most of his work OUTSIDE the box. He often drops too deep (for the cause) and when he does flick on, Wells is is still 20+ yards from goal and still has a lot to do. You are right that the defenders would have been worked harder, but how does that automatically equal a goal? Hanson hasn't looked like scoring himself for a while (albeit had a chance saved which fell to Wells today) and the rest of team on Tuesday just didn't create enough for our front two. I just don't believe Hanson would have made a difference on that score. Hines was poor, Atkinson tried but didn't create much and Jones & Doyle are not going to create much (other than set-pieces). How would Hanson (and his hard-working performances) have changed that?[/p][/quote]Maybe every ball that was won by a Chesterfield defender would have been won by Hanson? I don't recall us winning a single ball in the air against their defenders. If Hanson had have been winning and flicking on it may have meant them having to defend deeper which may have resulted in more space in midfield for us. It may also have meant more room for Hines as they sat deeper. It isn't just about how many goals Hanson scores -although where would we have been without his goals in previous seasons- it is also about how he makes a difference to how our opponents have to play. They have to try nullify him. He makes a difference to opponents gaining possession 40-50 yds out from their goal or 30-40 yds further back towards their goal. He doesn't have to score for opponent managers to mention what an impact he has had on the game, and they should know. lonniejockstrap
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9:36pm Sat 10 Nov 12

sergioleone says...

whoooahhhh.......wat
ch it pal your keyboard might catch fire SMALL person.
whoooahhhh.......wat ch it pal your keyboard might catch fire SMALL person. sergioleone
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9:37pm Sat 10 Nov 12

nowt fresh says...

Sorry fella just quoting what he saw as he was at "the game" ?? re the Hanson drinking issue just pointing out to Victor Clayton that you have been on this lads case for as you put it "hundred years ago" it's not 100 years ago Waynus1971 just seems like it with your constant **** re Hanson.
Sorry fella just quoting what he saw as he was at "the game" ?? re the Hanson drinking issue just pointing out to Victor Clayton that you have been on this lads case for as you put it "hundred years ago" it's not 100 years ago Waynus1971 just seems like it with your constant **** re Hanson. nowt fresh
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9:42pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Waynus1971 says...

To all those that are having a go at me tonight can I ask you do to one thing for me. Don't resort to name calling or smart-4R5E comments. Simply tell me what part of my post you disagree with and then we can have a proper debate instead of this constant sniping.

1) James Hanson is very good in the air and wins many flick ons. He also wins lots of ball in our own penalty area, thus halping out defensively. HOWEVER, in my opinion, he doesn't attack the ball in the opposition box with the same gusto. This is one of the reasons he has scored just twice with his head this season. AGREE/DISAGREE?

2) James Hanson works hard for the team, chasing lost causes and never giving defenders time to relax. HOWEVER, because of this commitment, when he does force an error, he is often not in the penalty area where we need him to be. AGREE/DISAGREE?

3) James Hanson wins lots of flick-ons, but because of our style of play, he often has to drop fairly deep (25-30yrs from goal) to get his head on the ball. As a result, if Wells (or Hanson's strike partner for the day) gets on the end, they are often still a considerable distance from goal. AGREE/DISAGREE?

If you disagree, fair enough, but at least it should put to bed this notion that I am constantly attacking the big man. I just put across my views on the player, GOOD or bad.....!
To all those that are having a go at me tonight can I ask you do to one thing for me. Don't resort to name calling or smart-4R5E comments. Simply tell me what part of my post you disagree with and then we can have a proper debate instead of this constant sniping. 1) James Hanson is very good in the air and wins many flick ons. He also wins lots of ball in our own penalty area, thus halping out defensively. HOWEVER, in my opinion, he doesn't attack the ball in the opposition box with the same gusto. This is one of the reasons he has scored just twice with his head this season. AGREE/DISAGREE? 2) James Hanson works hard for the team, chasing lost causes and never giving defenders time to relax. HOWEVER, because of this commitment, when he does force an error, he is often not in the penalty area where we need him to be. AGREE/DISAGREE? 3) James Hanson wins lots of flick-ons, but because of our style of play, he often has to drop fairly deep (25-30yrs from goal) to get his head on the ball. As a result, if Wells (or Hanson's strike partner for the day) gets on the end, they are often still a considerable distance from goal. AGREE/DISAGREE? If you disagree, fair enough, but at least it should put to bed this notion that I am constantly attacking the big man. I just put across my views on the player, GOOD or bad.....! Waynus1971
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9:43pm Sat 10 Nov 12

tyker2 says...

waynus :I don't recall saying Hanson would knck it over the stand. I was talking about the high net at one end of the ground but, nevermind that, just accept he is the best centre forward we have had on the books for many a year and,at present, those brought in to challenge have fallen by the wayside. i agree he could score more goals himself but I ,for one, are more than happy with his contribution to the team effort

I know he holds you in the same regard as you hold him. So let be the end of it!
waynus :I don't recall saying Hanson would knck it over the stand. I was talking about the high net at one end of the ground but, nevermind that, just accept he is the best centre forward we have had on the books for many a year and,at present, those brought in to challenge have fallen by the wayside. i agree he could score more goals himself but I ,for one, are more than happy with his contribution to the team effort I know he holds you in the same regard as you hold him. So let be the end of it! tyker2
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9:45pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Waynus1971 says...

sergioleone wrote:
whoooahhhh.......wat

ch it pal your keyboard might catch fire SMALL person.
Yawn...!
[quote][p][bold]sergioleone[/bold] wrote: whoooahhhh.......wat ch it pal your keyboard might catch fire SMALL person.[/p][/quote]Yawn...! Waynus1971
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9:47pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Victor Clayton says...

nowt fresh wrote:
Victor Clayton wrote:
lonniejockstrap wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
sergioleone wrote: little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?
Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above. "Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc" It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right............... !
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You need to get off Hanson's back Waynus you really are overdoing it and it's reflecting pretty badly on you as a person in my opinion. A lot of opponent managers rate and commented on his effectiveness in causing their teams a problem, AND every manager we have had since he's been at the Club has had him in the team when fit. So either you know more about professional football than all those professional managers or you are so hell bent on wanting to be proved right -eventually- that you are wishing for him to do badly and go out of your way to point out every fault or mistake of his. He might not be of international level but he is certainly worthy of being in our team.
to be fair to Waynus he has said very little wrong and to me seemed like a bit of banter. I can not think of any poster who has not agreed that JH is deserved of his place. but this jumping on anyone who is not gushing about him seems OTT to me!
Here's two comment he's made " Our first today was all down to Wells (and a big mistake by their defender)" yet al&co who went to the game said " This was a good win and Hanson played his part. I was at the game.

He is never going to be an International but he is an asset to our team and played a major part in our first goal" then he comes out with " I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them" that's why people respond to "his banter" I'll say it again and no doubt get my knuckles wrapped by Waynus1971, remember all the crap he came out with about Hanson drinking in the past and I suppose that was just banter as well, nobody is going OTT Waynus1971 does not help himself with he constant innuendos re James Hanson, I'll say no more as the Hanson debate is getting boring he's not the best thing since sliced bread but HE IS THE BEST TARGET MAN BRADFORD CITY HAVE AT THE MOMENT.
to be honest, I wasn't just talking about Waynus. I agree with you that Waynus can not be sure of the outcome of the Chesterfield game, but surely this just his opnion. I really dont want to look like i am criticising our central midfield because they are the dogs do dars but in games we are dominating (Chesterfield 2nd half) i agree with Waynus, we need them to push on and create some room for the strikers to exploit.
[quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Victor Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sergioleone[/bold] wrote: little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?[/p][/quote]Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above. "Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc" It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right............... ![/p][/quote]Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You need to get off Hanson's back Waynus you really are overdoing it and it's reflecting pretty badly on you as a person in my opinion. A lot of opponent managers rate and commented on his effectiveness in causing their teams a problem, AND every manager we have had since he's been at the Club has had him in the team when fit. So either you know more about professional football than all those professional managers or you are so hell bent on wanting to be proved right -eventually- that you are wishing for him to do badly and go out of your way to point out every fault or mistake of his. He might not be of international level but he is certainly worthy of being in our team.[/p][/quote]to be fair to Waynus he has said very little wrong and to me seemed like a bit of banter. I can not think of any poster who has not agreed that JH is deserved of his place. but this jumping on anyone who is not gushing about him seems OTT to me![/p][/quote]Here's two comment he's made " Our first today was all down to Wells (and a big mistake by their defender)" yet al&co who went to the game said " This was a good win and Hanson played his part. I was at the game. He is never going to be an International but he is an asset to our team and played a major part in our first goal" then he comes out with " I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them" that's why people respond to "his banter" I'll say it again and no doubt get my knuckles wrapped by Waynus1971, remember all the crap he came out with about Hanson drinking in the past and I suppose that was just banter as well, nobody is going OTT Waynus1971 does not help himself with he constant innuendos re James Hanson, I'll say no more as the Hanson debate is getting boring he's not the best thing since sliced bread but HE IS THE BEST TARGET MAN BRADFORD CITY HAVE AT THE MOMENT.[/p][/quote]to be honest, I wasn't just talking about Waynus. I agree with you that Waynus can not be sure of the outcome of the Chesterfield game, but surely this just his opnion. I really dont want to look like i am criticising our central midfield because they are the dogs do dars but in games we are dominating (Chesterfield 2nd half) i agree with Waynus, we need them to push on and create some room for the strikers to exploit. Victor Clayton
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9:49pm Sat 10 Nov 12

sergioleone says...

Waynus1971 wrote:
To all those that are having a go at me tonight can I ask you do to one thing for me. Don't resort to name calling or smart-4R5E comments. Simply tell me what part of my post you disagree with and then we can have a proper debate instead of this constant sniping. 1) James Hanson is very good in the air and wins many flick ons. He also wins lots of ball in our own penalty area, thus halping out defensively. HOWEVER, in my opinion, he doesn't attack the ball in the opposition box with the same gusto. This is one of the reasons he has scored just twice with his head this season. AGREE/DISAGREE? 2) James Hanson works hard for the team, chasing lost causes and never giving defenders time to relax. HOWEVER, because of this commitment, when he does force an error, he is often not in the penalty area where we need him to be. AGREE/DISAGREE? 3) James Hanson wins lots of flick-ons, but because of our style of play, he often has to drop fairly deep (25-30yrs from goal) to get his head on the ball. As a result, if Wells (or Hanson's strike partner for the day) gets on the end, they are often still a considerable distance from goal. AGREE/DISAGREE? If you disagree, fair enough, but at least it should put to bed this notion that I am constantly attacking the big man. I just put across my views on the player, GOOD or bad.....!
Yes,i agree they are good points,fair do's- got no problem with those waynus.
[quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: To all those that are having a go at me tonight can I ask you do to one thing for me. Don't resort to name calling or smart-4R5E comments. Simply tell me what part of my post you disagree with and then we can have a proper debate instead of this constant sniping. 1) James Hanson is very good in the air and wins many flick ons. He also wins lots of ball in our own penalty area, thus halping out defensively. HOWEVER, in my opinion, he doesn't attack the ball in the opposition box with the same gusto. This is one of the reasons he has scored just twice with his head this season. AGREE/DISAGREE? 2) James Hanson works hard for the team, chasing lost causes and never giving defenders time to relax. HOWEVER, because of this commitment, when he does force an error, he is often not in the penalty area where we need him to be. AGREE/DISAGREE? 3) James Hanson wins lots of flick-ons, but because of our style of play, he often has to drop fairly deep (25-30yrs from goal) to get his head on the ball. As a result, if Wells (or Hanson's strike partner for the day) gets on the end, they are often still a considerable distance from goal. AGREE/DISAGREE? If you disagree, fair enough, but at least it should put to bed this notion that I am constantly attacking the big man. I just put across my views on the player, GOOD or bad.....![/p][/quote]Yes,i agree they are good points,fair do's- got no problem with those waynus. sergioleone
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9:52pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Waynus1971 says...

nowt fresh wrote:
Sorry fella just quoting what he saw as he was at "the game" ?? re the Hanson drinking issue just pointing out to Victor Clayton that you have been on this lads case for as you put it "hundred years ago" it's not 100 years ago Waynus1971 just seems like it with your constant **** re Hanson.
I know you were just quoting him, but he simply made a mistake with the order of the goals. That's all.

In relation to the drinking, I knew somebody would post about it. It was OVER 2 yrs ago, yet the likes of you constantly bring it up. I don't (unless I have to defend myself again).

And finally, I'm not constantly criticising Hanson. I have made it clear on numerous occasions that I value the player. I often praise his hard work and the 'ugly' stuff he does off the ball.

However, just as I do with ANY player, if there are aspects of their game that I believe needs work on, I point it out. It is you lot that make it into a battle.

Everyone is raving about Jones, but (just to prove my point), I think he could do better in an attacking sense. He is a fantastic midfielder, but doesn't have the same finish as, say a, Syers, for example.
[quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: Sorry fella just quoting what he saw as he was at "the game" ?? re the Hanson drinking issue just pointing out to Victor Clayton that you have been on this lads case for as you put it "hundred years ago" it's not 100 years ago Waynus1971 just seems like it with your constant **** re Hanson.[/p][/quote]I know you were just quoting him, but he simply made a mistake with the order of the goals. That's all. In relation to the drinking, I knew somebody would post about it. It was OVER 2 yrs ago, yet the likes of you constantly bring it up. I don't (unless I have to defend myself again). And finally, I'm not constantly criticising Hanson. I have made it clear on numerous occasions that I value the player. I often praise his hard work and the 'ugly' stuff he does off the ball. However, just as I do with ANY player, if there are aspects of their game that I believe needs work on, I point it out. It is you lot that make it into a battle. Everyone is raving about Jones, but (just to prove my point), I think he could do better in an attacking sense. He is a fantastic midfielder, but doesn't have the same finish as, say a, Syers, for example. Waynus1971
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10:00pm Sat 10 Nov 12

bcfc1903 says...

Great win today by the way lol, regarding Wells and Hanson, you're probably in need of a guide dog not to know these two make up the very best partnership in league at this moment in time regarding causing the opposition defence problems in the air, movement and actual high quality finishing . Very much like O'Brien was never the same player once Omar Daley left, the same could be said of Wells when playing with Hanson and him playing without Hanson by his side, the two very much compliment each other. Must say McArdle and Egan look a class act, incredible that we've lost the rocks that are Davies and Oliver yet our defence looks as strong, brilliant picks by Parkinson. Things are looking the best for over a decade down at Valley Parade...exciting times indeed!!!!!

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We shout with pride....we never hide...Claret and Amber.
Great win today by the way lol, regarding Wells and Hanson, you're probably in need of a guide dog not to know these two make up the very best partnership in league at this moment in time regarding causing the opposition defence problems in the air, movement and actual high quality finishing . Very much like O'Brien was never the same player once Omar Daley left, the same could be said of Wells when playing with Hanson and him playing without Hanson by his side, the two very much compliment each other. Must say McArdle and Egan look a class act, incredible that we've lost the rocks that are Davies and Oliver yet our defence looks as strong, brilliant picks by Parkinson. Things are looking the best for over a decade down at Valley Parade...exciting times indeed!!!!! ** We shout with pride....we never hide...Claret and Amber. bcfc1903
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10:01pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Willie Eckerslyke says...

The heading says Aldershot v Bantams but it looks like it's turned in to a love-in for Jimmy Hanson? Great play has been made of the way he puts himself about, wins his headers and is always considered a handful by opposing managers. At 6ft-4 he is entitled to, of course, but are none of you concerned that we only have one player who seems capable of scoring goals?

Other than Nahki's excellent haul Hanson has 4 (lge) goals, Connell has 3 and except for Davies no other player has scored more than once. If the goals were being shared around it wouldn't be a concern that the centre forward wasn't scoring himself but this is not the case. Heaven forbid anything should happen to Nahki but it is difficult to see a sustained promotion challenge if he should be out for any length of time.

A quick check of Hanson's scoring record away from VP makes rather grim reading. 4 (lge) goals in 2010/11; 1 goal in 2011/12 and none this season. Indeed he hasn't scored an away goal since 1 Oct 2011.

At what he does we don't currently have anyone better at the club so it would be difficult to leave him out but I, for one, would like to see some of the Arsenal money invested in a big lad who can also score goals at this level. PP has already proved he has an eye for a player and our continuing promotion push may depend upon him finding Hanson's replacement.
The heading says Aldershot v Bantams but it looks like it's turned in to a love-in for Jimmy Hanson? Great play has been made of the way he puts himself about, wins his headers and is always considered a handful by opposing managers. At 6ft-4 he is entitled to, of course, but are none of you concerned that we only have one player who seems capable of scoring goals? Other than Nahki's excellent haul Hanson has 4 (lge) goals, Connell has 3 and except for Davies no other player has scored more than once. If the goals were being shared around it wouldn't be a concern that the centre forward wasn't scoring himself but this is not the case. Heaven forbid anything should happen to Nahki but it is difficult to see a sustained promotion challenge if he should be out for any length of time. A quick check of Hanson's scoring record away from VP makes rather grim reading. 4 (lge) goals in 2010/11; 1 goal in 2011/12 and none this season. Indeed he hasn't scored an away goal since 1 Oct 2011. At what he does we don't currently have anyone better at the club so it would be difficult to leave him out but I, for one, would like to see some of the Arsenal money invested in a big lad who can also score goals at this level. PP has already proved he has an eye for a player and our continuing promotion push may depend upon him finding Hanson's replacement. Willie Eckerslyke
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10:01pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Waynus1971 says...

tyker2 wrote:
waynus :I don't recall saying Hanson would knck it over the stand. I was talking about the high net at one end of the ground but, nevermind that, just accept he is the best centre forward we have had on the books for many a year and,at present, those brought in to challenge have fallen by the wayside. i agree he could score more goals himself but I ,for one, are more than happy with his contribution to the team effort

I know he holds you in the same regard as you hold him. So let be the end of it!
Tyker, where did I mention Hanson would kick it over the stand? Read again...! Instead of trying to get involved, read properly. You said the netting at one end was 12ft high and I replied that Hanson would manage to clear it. It was meant as a bit of humour, but I nearly wet myself when he then did exactly that.

So, you KNOW that Hanson holds me in high regard, but feels that there are areas I can improve? How do you know what? Oh, you don't....!

You say "I agree he could score more goals himself", but isn't that the only thing I have said against him?
[quote][p][bold]tyker2[/bold] wrote: waynus :I don't recall saying Hanson would knck it over the stand. I was talking about the high net at one end of the ground but, nevermind that, just accept he is the best centre forward we have had on the books for many a year and,at present, those brought in to challenge have fallen by the wayside. i agree he could score more goals himself but I ,for one, are more than happy with his contribution to the team effort I know he holds you in the same regard as you hold him. So let be the end of it![/p][/quote]Tyker, where did I mention Hanson would kick it over the stand? Read again...! Instead of trying to get involved, read properly. You said the netting at one end was 12ft high and I replied that Hanson would manage to clear it. It was meant as a bit of humour, but I nearly wet myself when he then did exactly that. So, you KNOW that Hanson holds me in high regard, but feels that there are areas I can improve? How do you know what? Oh, you don't....! You say "I agree he could score more goals himself", but isn't that the only thing I have said against him? Waynus1971
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10:08pm Sat 10 Nov 12

lonniejockstrap says...

Waynus1971 wrote:
To all those that are having a go at me tonight can I ask you do to one thing for me. Don't resort to name calling or smart-4R5E comments. Simply tell me what part of my post you disagree with and then we can have a proper debate instead of this constant sniping.

1) James Hanson is very good in the air and wins many flick ons. He also wins lots of ball in our own penalty area, thus halping out defensively. HOWEVER, in my opinion, he doesn't attack the ball in the opposition box with the same gusto. This is one of the reasons he has scored just twice with his head this season. AGREE/DISAGREE?

2) James Hanson works hard for the team, chasing lost causes and never giving defenders time to relax. HOWEVER, because of this commitment, when he does force an error, he is often not in the penalty area where we need him to be. AGREE/DISAGREE?

3) James Hanson wins lots of flick-ons, but because of our style of play, he often has to drop fairly deep (25-30yrs from goal) to get his head on the ball. As a result, if Wells (or Hanson's strike partner for the day) gets on the end, they are often still a considerable distance from goal. AGREE/DISAGREE?

If you disagree, fair enough, but at least it should put to bed this notion that I am constantly attacking the big man. I just put across my views on the player, GOOD or bad.....!
My response:
1) Whether or not it can be a lack of 'gusto' as to be the reason for him not scoring as many goals as you would like I can't honestly say. Is it the quality of the ball into the box? is it his starting position? is it the opposition players who will probably have been practising all week that are stopping him from doing his own thing? I see him win a few balls in the box and he heads for goal without much chance of scoring because there are no players waiting to feed off of a knock down.

2) If you are correct with this then it is down to the manager to tell him what a he wants him to do isn't it? And, if he wasn't in a position to win the first ball would it matter if he got in the box? Would the ball get in the box without him beating the defenders in the air or 'forcing an error' in the first place -chicken and egg?

3) This depends on the quality and/or the position the ball is played from and the area it is played into. It also means players feeding off Hanson need to read/anticipate where Hanson can/will flick the ball, which, again will depend greatly on the quality of the pass to him. Can agree that if you are suggesting that when Hanson wins the ball and finds an attacking team-mate that somehow this should be seen in a negative light.
[quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: To all those that are having a go at me tonight can I ask you do to one thing for me. Don't resort to name calling or smart-4R5E comments. Simply tell me what part of my post you disagree with and then we can have a proper debate instead of this constant sniping. 1) James Hanson is very good in the air and wins many flick ons. He also wins lots of ball in our own penalty area, thus halping out defensively. HOWEVER, in my opinion, he doesn't attack the ball in the opposition box with the same gusto. This is one of the reasons he has scored just twice with his head this season. AGREE/DISAGREE? 2) James Hanson works hard for the team, chasing lost causes and never giving defenders time to relax. HOWEVER, because of this commitment, when he does force an error, he is often not in the penalty area where we need him to be. AGREE/DISAGREE? 3) James Hanson wins lots of flick-ons, but because of our style of play, he often has to drop fairly deep (25-30yrs from goal) to get his head on the ball. As a result, if Wells (or Hanson's strike partner for the day) gets on the end, they are often still a considerable distance from goal. AGREE/DISAGREE? If you disagree, fair enough, but at least it should put to bed this notion that I am constantly attacking the big man. I just put across my views on the player, GOOD or bad.....![/p][/quote]My response: 1) Whether or not it can be a lack of 'gusto' as to be the reason for him not scoring as many goals as you would like I can't honestly say. Is it the quality of the ball into the box? is it his starting position? is it the opposition players who will probably have been practising all week that are stopping him from doing his own thing? I see him win a few balls in the box and he heads for goal without much chance of scoring because there are no players waiting to feed off of a knock down. 2) If you are correct with this then it is down to the manager to tell him what a he wants him to do isn't it? And, if he wasn't in a position to win the first ball would it matter if he got in the box? Would the ball get in the box without him beating the defenders in the air or 'forcing an error' in the first place -chicken and egg? 3) This depends on the quality and/or the position the ball is played from and the area it is played into. It also means players feeding off Hanson need to read/anticipate where Hanson can/will flick the ball, which, again will depend greatly on the quality of the pass to him. Can agree that if you are suggesting that when Hanson wins the ball and finds an attacking team-mate that somehow this should be seen in a negative light. lonniejockstrap
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10:10pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Onebrianmitchell says...

Willie Eckerslyke wrote:
The heading says Aldershot v Bantams but it looks like it's turned in to a love-in for Jimmy Hanson? Great play has been made of the way he puts himself about, wins his headers and is always considered a handful by opposing managers. At 6ft-4 he is entitled to, of course, but are none of you concerned that we only have one player who seems capable of scoring goals?

Other than Nahki's excellent haul Hanson has 4 (lge) goals, Connell has 3 and except for Davies no other player has scored more than once. If the goals were being shared around it wouldn't be a concern that the centre forward wasn't scoring himself but this is not the case. Heaven forbid anything should happen to Nahki but it is difficult to see a sustained promotion challenge if he should be out for any length of time.

A quick check of Hanson's scoring record away from VP makes rather grim reading. 4 (lge) goals in 2010/11; 1 goal in 2011/12 and none this season. Indeed he hasn't scored an away goal since 1 Oct 2011.

At what he does we don't currently have anyone better at the club so it would be difficult to leave him out but I, for one, would like to see some of the Arsenal money invested in a big lad who can also score goals at this level. PP has already proved he has an eye for a player and our continuing promotion push may depend upon him finding Hanson's replacement.
Brilliant and informed post and myexact thoughts on the situation.
[quote][p][bold]Willie Eckerslyke[/bold] wrote: The heading says Aldershot v Bantams but it looks like it's turned in to a love-in for Jimmy Hanson? Great play has been made of the way he puts himself about, wins his headers and is always considered a handful by opposing managers. At 6ft-4 he is entitled to, of course, but are none of you concerned that we only have one player who seems capable of scoring goals? Other than Nahki's excellent haul Hanson has 4 (lge) goals, Connell has 3 and except for Davies no other player has scored more than once. If the goals were being shared around it wouldn't be a concern that the centre forward wasn't scoring himself but this is not the case. Heaven forbid anything should happen to Nahki but it is difficult to see a sustained promotion challenge if he should be out for any length of time. A quick check of Hanson's scoring record away from VP makes rather grim reading. 4 (lge) goals in 2010/11; 1 goal in 2011/12 and none this season. Indeed he hasn't scored an away goal since 1 Oct 2011. At what he does we don't currently have anyone better at the club so it would be difficult to leave him out but I, for one, would like to see some of the Arsenal money invested in a big lad who can also score goals at this level. PP has already proved he has an eye for a player and our continuing promotion push may depend upon him finding Hanson's replacement.[/p][/quote]Brilliant and informed post and myexact thoughts on the situation. Onebrianmitchell
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10:13pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Waynus1971 says...

lonniejockstrap wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
nowt fresh wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
Woah..... hold yer horses fellas. I said his shooting is off-kilter and made a comment to Tyker that he would clear the stand. AND HE DID....! I have never dismissed his aerial power and the amount of work he does. He helped create Nahki's 2nd goal and I was more than happy to give him some credit because it was due.. What I do dismiss is that his presence in the team is often attributed to Nahki's goals. Our first today was all down to Wells (and a big mistake by their defender). I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them. It simply didn't work for us and although Wells had opportunities, he took the option of going to ground instead.
Please tell us all why you believe this comment you posted " I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them" we will never know but please enlighten us all, Chesterfields two central defenders never broke sweat because there was no physical presence from the front two or the team in general so don't understand your comment we will never know it's like me saying I believe we would have won the game with Hanson ?,the one thing that can be said Waynus1971 is there centre halves would have been busier with Hanson in the side than not surely you saw that on Tuesday night ?.
Yes, the Chesterfield defenders would have been busier, but let's be honest here. Hanson does most of his work OUTSIDE the box. He often drops too deep (for the cause) and when he does flick on, Wells is is still 20+ yards from goal and still has a lot to do.

You are right that the defenders would have been worked harder, but how does that automatically equal a goal? Hanson hasn't looked like scoring himself for a while (albeit had a chance saved which fell to Wells today) and the rest of team on Tuesday just didn't create enough for our front two.

I just don't believe Hanson would have made a difference on that score. Hines was poor, Atkinson tried but didn't create much and Jones & Doyle are not going to create much (other than set-pieces). How would Hanson (and his hard-working performances) have changed that?
Maybe every ball that was won by a Chesterfield defender would have been won by Hanson? I don't recall us winning a single ball in the air against their defenders. If Hanson had have been winning and flicking on it may have meant them having to defend deeper which may have resulted in more space in midfield for us. It may also have meant more room for Hines as they sat deeper. It isn't just about how many goals Hanson scores -although where would we have been without his goals in previous seasons- it is also about how he makes a difference to how our opponents have to play. They have to try nullify him. He makes a difference to opponents gaining possession 40-50 yds out from their goal or 30-40 yds further back towards their goal. He doesn't have to score for opponent managers to mention what an impact he has had on the game, and they should know.
You make excellent points Lonnie and no doubt the game would have panned out differently. However, that isn't the same as saying we wouldn't have been as toothless had he played.

We failed to break down Port Vale and Rochdale despite being dominant and Hanson played in both of those games. My issue isn't that I don't believe Hanson would have caused different problems, but we simply didn't play well on Tuesday night (fatigue?).

You keep mentioning other managers noting his worth and the impact he makes on games. I have not disagreed with this.
[quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: Woah..... hold yer horses fellas. I said his shooting is off-kilter and made a comment to Tyker that he would clear the stand. AND HE DID....! I have never dismissed his aerial power and the amount of work he does. He helped create Nahki's 2nd goal and I was more than happy to give him some credit because it was due.. What I do dismiss is that his presence in the team is often attributed to Nahki's goals. Our first today was all down to Wells (and a big mistake by their defender). I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them. It simply didn't work for us and although Wells had opportunities, he took the option of going to ground instead.[/p][/quote]Please tell us all why you believe this comment you posted " I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them" we will never know but please enlighten us all, Chesterfields two central defenders never broke sweat because there was no physical presence from the front two or the team in general so don't understand your comment we will never know it's like me saying I believe we would have won the game with Hanson ?,the one thing that can be said Waynus1971 is there centre halves would have been busier with Hanson in the side than not surely you saw that on Tuesday night ?.[/p][/quote]Yes, the Chesterfield defenders would have been busier, but let's be honest here. Hanson does most of his work OUTSIDE the box. He often drops too deep (for the cause) and when he does flick on, Wells is is still 20+ yards from goal and still has a lot to do. You are right that the defenders would have been worked harder, but how does that automatically equal a goal? Hanson hasn't looked like scoring himself for a while (albeit had a chance saved which fell to Wells today) and the rest of team on Tuesday just didn't create enough for our front two. I just don't believe Hanson would have made a difference on that score. Hines was poor, Atkinson tried but didn't create much and Jones & Doyle are not going to create much (other than set-pieces). How would Hanson (and his hard-working performances) have changed that?[/p][/quote]Maybe every ball that was won by a Chesterfield defender would have been won by Hanson? I don't recall us winning a single ball in the air against their defenders. If Hanson had have been winning and flicking on it may have meant them having to defend deeper which may have resulted in more space in midfield for us. It may also have meant more room for Hines as they sat deeper. It isn't just about how many goals Hanson scores -although where would we have been without his goals in previous seasons- it is also about how he makes a difference to how our opponents have to play. They have to try nullify him. He makes a difference to opponents gaining possession 40-50 yds out from their goal or 30-40 yds further back towards their goal. He doesn't have to score for opponent managers to mention what an impact he has had on the game, and they should know.[/p][/quote]You make excellent points Lonnie and no doubt the game would have panned out differently. However, that isn't the same as saying we wouldn't have been as toothless had he played. We failed to break down Port Vale and Rochdale despite being dominant and Hanson played in both of those games. My issue isn't that I don't believe Hanson would have caused different problems, but we simply didn't play well on Tuesday night (fatigue?). You keep mentioning other managers noting his worth and the impact he makes on games. I have not disagreed with this. Waynus1971
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10:15pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Victor Clayton says...

Willie Eckerslyke wrote:
The heading says Aldershot v Bantams but it looks like it's turned in to a love-in for Jimmy Hanson? Great play has been made of the way he puts himself about, wins his headers and is always considered a handful by opposing managers. At 6ft-4 he is entitled to, of course, but are none of you concerned that we only have one player who seems capable of scoring goals?

Other than Nahki's excellent haul Hanson has 4 (lge) goals, Connell has 3 and except for Davies no other player has scored more than once. If the goals were being shared around it wouldn't be a concern that the centre forward wasn't scoring himself but this is not the case. Heaven forbid anything should happen to Nahki but it is difficult to see a sustained promotion challenge if he should be out for any length of time.

A quick check of Hanson's scoring record away from VP makes rather grim reading. 4 (lge) goals in 2010/11; 1 goal in 2011/12 and none this season. Indeed he hasn't scored an away goal since 1 Oct 2011.

At what he does we don't currently have anyone better at the club so it would be difficult to leave him out but I, for one, would like to see some of the Arsenal money invested in a big lad who can also score goals at this level. PP has already proved he has an eye for a player and our continuing promotion push may depend upon him finding Hanson's replacement.
pretty much what i think. however there is the nagging thought that as a team we are too negative. in the first half only rely on Hanson's flick on to Wells to score.in the 2nd we are a bit more adventurous but still play a kind of crescent attact with the 1/2 striker isolated in the middle.
[quote][p][bold]Willie Eckerslyke[/bold] wrote: The heading says Aldershot v Bantams but it looks like it's turned in to a love-in for Jimmy Hanson? Great play has been made of the way he puts himself about, wins his headers and is always considered a handful by opposing managers. At 6ft-4 he is entitled to, of course, but are none of you concerned that we only have one player who seems capable of scoring goals? Other than Nahki's excellent haul Hanson has 4 (lge) goals, Connell has 3 and except for Davies no other player has scored more than once. If the goals were being shared around it wouldn't be a concern that the centre forward wasn't scoring himself but this is not the case. Heaven forbid anything should happen to Nahki but it is difficult to see a sustained promotion challenge if he should be out for any length of time. A quick check of Hanson's scoring record away from VP makes rather grim reading. 4 (lge) goals in 2010/11; 1 goal in 2011/12 and none this season. Indeed he hasn't scored an away goal since 1 Oct 2011. At what he does we don't currently have anyone better at the club so it would be difficult to leave him out but I, for one, would like to see some of the Arsenal money invested in a big lad who can also score goals at this level. PP has already proved he has an eye for a player and our continuing promotion push may depend upon him finding Hanson's replacement.[/p][/quote]pretty much what i think. however there is the nagging thought that as a team we are too negative. in the first half only rely on Hanson's flick on to Wells to score.in the 2nd we are a bit more adventurous but still play a kind of crescent attact with the 1/2 striker isolated in the middle. Victor Clayton
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10:29pm Sat 10 Nov 12

lonniejockstrap says...

Onebrianmitchell wrote:
Willie Eckerslyke wrote:
The heading says Aldershot v Bantams but it looks like it's turned in to a love-in for Jimmy Hanson? Great play has been made of the way he puts himself about, wins his headers and is always considered a handful by opposing managers. At 6ft-4 he is entitled to, of course, but are none of you concerned that we only have one player who seems capable of scoring goals?

Other than Nahki's excellent haul Hanson has 4 (lge) goals, Connell has 3 and except for Davies no other player has scored more than once. If the goals were being shared around it wouldn't be a concern that the centre forward wasn't scoring himself but this is not the case. Heaven forbid anything should happen to Nahki but it is difficult to see a sustained promotion challenge if he should be out for any length of time.

A quick check of Hanson's scoring record away from VP makes rather grim reading. 4 (lge) goals in 2010/11; 1 goal in 2011/12 and none this season. Indeed he hasn't scored an away goal since 1 Oct 2011.

At what he does we don't currently have anyone better at the club so it would be difficult to leave him out but I, for one, would like to see some of the Arsenal money invested in a big lad who can also score goals at this level. PP has already proved he has an eye for a player and our continuing promotion push may depend upon him finding Hanson's replacement.
Brilliant and informed post and myexact thoughts on the situation.
I am sure you guys are aware of the term 'synergy' but allow me to provide an example quote just to help assist with a point. Synergy: 'the interaction of elements that when combined produce a total effect that is greater than the sum of the individual elements, contributions'. Why does it matter if Hanson is not scoring goals or the goals are not being shared amongst the players because Nahki is banging em in for fun? Are you aware of our goal difference? Do you know how that compares with previous seasons and how much better it is? We are fourth in the table even though Hanson has only scored 4 and Connell 3 etc. Every silver lining seems to have a cloud over VP for some reason.
[quote][p][bold]Onebrianmitchell[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Willie Eckerslyke[/bold] wrote: The heading says Aldershot v Bantams but it looks like it's turned in to a love-in for Jimmy Hanson? Great play has been made of the way he puts himself about, wins his headers and is always considered a handful by opposing managers. At 6ft-4 he is entitled to, of course, but are none of you concerned that we only have one player who seems capable of scoring goals? Other than Nahki's excellent haul Hanson has 4 (lge) goals, Connell has 3 and except for Davies no other player has scored more than once. If the goals were being shared around it wouldn't be a concern that the centre forward wasn't scoring himself but this is not the case. Heaven forbid anything should happen to Nahki but it is difficult to see a sustained promotion challenge if he should be out for any length of time. A quick check of Hanson's scoring record away from VP makes rather grim reading. 4 (lge) goals in 2010/11; 1 goal in 2011/12 and none this season. Indeed he hasn't scored an away goal since 1 Oct 2011. At what he does we don't currently have anyone better at the club so it would be difficult to leave him out but I, for one, would like to see some of the Arsenal money invested in a big lad who can also score goals at this level. PP has already proved he has an eye for a player and our continuing promotion push may depend upon him finding Hanson's replacement.[/p][/quote]Brilliant and informed post and myexact thoughts on the situation.[/p][/quote]I am sure you guys are aware of the term 'synergy' but allow me to provide an example quote just to help assist with a point. Synergy: 'the interaction of elements that when combined produce a total effect that is greater than the sum of the individual elements, contributions'. Why does it matter if Hanson is not scoring goals or the goals are not being shared amongst the players because Nahki is banging em in for fun? Are you aware of our goal difference? Do you know how that compares with previous seasons and how much better it is? We are fourth in the table even though Hanson has only scored 4 and Connell 3 etc. Every silver lining seems to have a cloud over VP for some reason. lonniejockstrap
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10:31pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Waynus1971 says...

lonniejockstrap wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
To all those that are having a go at me tonight can I ask you do to one thing for me. Don't resort to name calling or smart-4R5E comments. Simply tell me what part of my post you disagree with and then we can have a proper debate instead of this constant sniping.

1) James Hanson is very good in the air and wins many flick ons. He also wins lots of ball in our own penalty area, thus halping out defensively. HOWEVER, in my opinion, he doesn't attack the ball in the opposition box with the same gusto. This is one of the reasons he has scored just twice with his head this season. AGREE/DISAGREE?

2) James Hanson works hard for the team, chasing lost causes and never giving defenders time to relax. HOWEVER, because of this commitment, when he does force an error, he is often not in the penalty area where we need him to be. AGREE/DISAGREE?

3) James Hanson wins lots of flick-ons, but because of our style of play, he often has to drop fairly deep (25-30yrs from goal) to get his head on the ball. As a result, if Wells (or Hanson's strike partner for the day) gets on the end, they are often still a considerable distance from goal. AGREE/DISAGREE?

If you disagree, fair enough, but at least it should put to bed this notion that I am constantly attacking the big man. I just put across my views on the player, GOOD or bad.....!
My response:
1) Whether or not it can be a lack of 'gusto' as to be the reason for him not scoring as many goals as you would like I can't honestly say. Is it the quality of the ball into the box? is it his starting position? is it the opposition players who will probably have been practising all week that are stopping him from doing his own thing? I see him win a few balls in the box and he heads for goal without much chance of scoring because there are no players waiting to feed off of a knock down.

2) If you are correct with this then it is down to the manager to tell him what a he wants him to do isn't it? And, if he wasn't in a position to win the first ball would it matter if he got in the box? Would the ball get in the box without him beating the defenders in the air or 'forcing an error' in the first place -chicken and egg?

3) This depends on the quality and/or the position the ball is played from and the area it is played into. It also means players feeding off Hanson need to read/anticipate where Hanson can/will flick the ball, which, again will depend greatly on the quality of the pass to him. Can agree that if you are suggesting that when Hanson wins the ball and finds an attacking team-mate that somehow this should be seen in a negative light.
Thanks Lonnie. Finally, someone who is prepared to read the issue and respond accordingly.

Firstly, you are right that the quality of balls into the box haven't been great (and that was my point regarding Tuesday night). It is also worth noting that he often has defenders with their arms wrapped around him, thus stopping him jumping as well and attacking the ball. However, how many goals have we scored from set-pieces this season and of that total, how many were scored from Hanson's headers? Davies seems to manage to lose his marker (do they not practise all week to stop him) at corners, so why can't hanson?

My second point wasn't a criticism towards Hanson. However, with the way we are set up, our midfielders don't get forward enough, including the wingers. So, when Hanson chases down and wins the ball, he only has Wells to find and he usually has a couple of defenders to shake off. Funnily enough, after one game, PP said in his post-match interview, that he was happy for the opposition defenders to have the ball 20-30 yards from their goal, but expected us to push up and close them down once they tried to come further forward.

Finally, again, I wasn't having a go at Hanson at his position when flicking-on. He can only win the header wherever the ball drops. My point was that the ball to him is often too short, meaning he has to drop 30yds or more from goal to win the header (which he does), but it isn't helping us, because the other centre-back and covering full-back have to time and space to get back to clear up the danger. This is why we have only scored a couple of times from Hanson's flick-ons.

Anyway, these are just my thoughts and I understand many will disagree, but I do hope I have made it clear that I am not Hanson bashing.
[quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: To all those that are having a go at me tonight can I ask you do to one thing for me. Don't resort to name calling or smart-4R5E comments. Simply tell me what part of my post you disagree with and then we can have a proper debate instead of this constant sniping. 1) James Hanson is very good in the air and wins many flick ons. He also wins lots of ball in our own penalty area, thus halping out defensively. HOWEVER, in my opinion, he doesn't attack the ball in the opposition box with the same gusto. This is one of the reasons he has scored just twice with his head this season. AGREE/DISAGREE? 2) James Hanson works hard for the team, chasing lost causes and never giving defenders time to relax. HOWEVER, because of this commitment, when he does force an error, he is often not in the penalty area where we need him to be. AGREE/DISAGREE? 3) James Hanson wins lots of flick-ons, but because of our style of play, he often has to drop fairly deep (25-30yrs from goal) to get his head on the ball. As a result, if Wells (or Hanson's strike partner for the day) gets on the end, they are often still a considerable distance from goal. AGREE/DISAGREE? If you disagree, fair enough, but at least it should put to bed this notion that I am constantly attacking the big man. I just put across my views on the player, GOOD or bad.....![/p][/quote]My response: 1) Whether or not it can be a lack of 'gusto' as to be the reason for him not scoring as many goals as you would like I can't honestly say. Is it the quality of the ball into the box? is it his starting position? is it the opposition players who will probably have been practising all week that are stopping him from doing his own thing? I see him win a few balls in the box and he heads for goal without much chance of scoring because there are no players waiting to feed off of a knock down. 2) If you are correct with this then it is down to the manager to tell him what a he wants him to do isn't it? And, if he wasn't in a position to win the first ball would it matter if he got in the box? Would the ball get in the box without him beating the defenders in the air or 'forcing an error' in the first place -chicken and egg? 3) This depends on the quality and/or the position the ball is played from and the area it is played into. It also means players feeding off Hanson need to read/anticipate where Hanson can/will flick the ball, which, again will depend greatly on the quality of the pass to him. Can agree that if you are suggesting that when Hanson wins the ball and finds an attacking team-mate that somehow this should be seen in a negative light.[/p][/quote]Thanks Lonnie. Finally, someone who is prepared to read the issue and respond accordingly. Firstly, you are right that the quality of balls into the box haven't been great (and that was my point regarding Tuesday night). It is also worth noting that he often has defenders with their arms wrapped around him, thus stopping him jumping as well and attacking the ball. However, how many goals have we scored from set-pieces this season and of that total, how many were scored from Hanson's headers? Davies seems to manage to lose his marker (do they not practise all week to stop him) at corners, so why can't hanson? My second point wasn't a criticism towards Hanson. However, with the way we are set up, our midfielders don't get forward enough, including the wingers. So, when Hanson chases down and wins the ball, he only has Wells to find and he usually has a couple of defenders to shake off. Funnily enough, after one game, PP said in his post-match interview, that he was happy for the opposition defenders to have the ball 20-30 yards from their goal, but expected us to push up and close them down once they tried to come further forward. Finally, again, I wasn't having a go at Hanson at his position when flicking-on. He can only win the header wherever the ball drops. My point was that the ball to him is often too short, meaning he has to drop 30yds or more from goal to win the header (which he does), but it isn't helping us, because the other centre-back and covering full-back have to time and space to get back to clear up the danger. This is why we have only scored a couple of times from Hanson's flick-ons. Anyway, these are just my thoughts and I understand many will disagree, but I do hope I have made it clear that I am not Hanson bashing. Waynus1971
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10:33pm Sat 10 Nov 12

bcfc1903 says...

Great finishing by Wells today , after Hanson had had a good shot well saved by the Aldershot keeper. Not sure about the first but a excellent and clinical finish by Wells. Thought the Chesterfield game was possibly the clearest example yet of Hanson's value to the team, Chesterfield flooded midfield with players, playing through that unless BCFC could get L Messi signed on loan was always going to be almost impossible, i'm quite sure that having Hanson's towering strength and power in the air in that particular game could and probably would have added three points to the BCFC table total. As Guy Branston said during his PFA winning season for Torquey, he was a real handful to play against, a message repeated on numerous occasions since by various managers of opposition teams.There does seem one or two on here who struggle to see all his strengths but highlight any shortcomings, i'm quite sure L Messi has missed the odd penalty in fact he'd probably not take them for BCFC lol.

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Great finishing by Wells today , after Hanson had had a good shot well saved by the Aldershot keeper. Not sure about the first but a excellent and clinical finish by Wells. Thought the Chesterfield game was possibly the clearest example yet of Hanson's value to the team, Chesterfield flooded midfield with players, playing through that unless BCFC could get L Messi signed on loan was always going to be almost impossible, i'm quite sure that having Hanson's towering strength and power in the air in that particular game could and probably would have added three points to the BCFC table total. As Guy Branston said during his PFA winning season for Torquey, he was a real handful to play against, a message repeated on numerous occasions since by various managers of opposition teams.There does seem one or two on here who struggle to see all his strengths but highlight any shortcomings, i'm quite sure L Messi has missed the odd penalty in fact he'd probably not take them for BCFC lol. ** We shout with pride...we never hide...Clret and Amber. bcfc1903
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10:39pm Sat 10 Nov 12

macca1969 says...

Total nonsense posting. Why is it that no one can say anything about James Hanson? It is a debate that's all. No one has said he is rubbish or not worthy of a place in the team, if so please quote the poster. Even Davies came out and said how Hanson works hard for the team but also said he had to be mindful that he will be judged on goals as well and at the moment he was missing too many. Since Davies made that comment James has gone on to score how many? Zero is the amount for the record.
Big James has got value to the team no one argues with that do they. Yes he is the best we have in that role at the club at the moment does that make it wrong to wish he got a few more goals to help the team out, i personally don't think so. Barry Conlon was better in the air than Boulding or Thorne and he was slated on this site by many who back Hanson. Why? Is it because he is a local lad.

More importantly i will repeat no one is saying Hanson isn't worth a place in the team, only wishing he might score a few more goals thats all. Now grow up you muppets its a bloodi debate
Total nonsense posting. Why is it that no one can say anything about James Hanson? It is a debate that's all. No one has said he is rubbish or not worthy of a place in the team, if so please quote the poster. Even Davies came out and said how Hanson works hard for the team but also said he had to be mindful that he will be judged on goals as well and at the moment he was missing too many. Since Davies made that comment James has gone on to score how many? Zero is the amount for the record. Big James has got value to the team no one argues with that do they. Yes he is the best we have in that role at the club at the moment does that make it wrong to wish he got a few more goals to help the team out, i personally don't think so. Barry Conlon was better in the air than Boulding or Thorne and he was slated on this site by many who back Hanson. Why? Is it because he is a local lad. More importantly i will repeat no one is saying Hanson isn't worth a place in the team, only wishing he might score a few more goals thats all. Now grow up you muppets its a bloodi debate macca1969
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10:39pm Sat 10 Nov 12

nowt fresh says...

Waynus1971 wrote:
nowt fresh wrote: Sorry fella just quoting what he saw as he was at "the game" ?? re the Hanson drinking issue just pointing out to Victor Clayton that you have been on this lads case for as you put it "hundred years ago" it's not 100 years ago Waynus1971 just seems like it with your constant **** re Hanson.
I know you were just quoting him, but he simply made a mistake with the order of the goals. That's all. In relation to the drinking, I knew somebody would post about it. It was OVER 2 yrs ago, yet the likes of you constantly bring it up. I don't (unless I have to defend myself again). And finally, I'm not constantly criticising Hanson. I have made it clear on numerous occasions that I value the player. I often praise his hard work and the 'ugly' stuff he does off the ball. However, just as I do with ANY player, if there are aspects of their game that I believe needs work on, I point it out. It is you lot that make it into a battle. Everyone is raving about Jones, but (just to prove my point), I think he could do better in an attacking sense. He is a fantastic midfielder, but doesn't have the same finish as, say a, Syers, for example.
Brought up in reply to Victor Clayton as I posted you had an issue then and although you say you criticise all players it just happends to be James Hanson who seems to be your focal point,re Jones agree he is a fantastic midfielder but apart from the goals he gets from his free kicks I don't think PP see's him as a replacement for Syers, Syers could recieve the ball in his own half (when an opposition attack broke down) and run box to box and score, Jones is not that type of player, I may be wrong but I don't believe his scoring record has been great any where he has played.
[quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: Sorry fella just quoting what he saw as he was at "the game" ?? re the Hanson drinking issue just pointing out to Victor Clayton that you have been on this lads case for as you put it "hundred years ago" it's not 100 years ago Waynus1971 just seems like it with your constant **** re Hanson.[/p][/quote]I know you were just quoting him, but he simply made a mistake with the order of the goals. That's all. In relation to the drinking, I knew somebody would post about it. It was OVER 2 yrs ago, yet the likes of you constantly bring it up. I don't (unless I have to defend myself again). And finally, I'm not constantly criticising Hanson. I have made it clear on numerous occasions that I value the player. I often praise his hard work and the 'ugly' stuff he does off the ball. However, just as I do with ANY player, if there are aspects of their game that I believe needs work on, I point it out. It is you lot that make it into a battle. Everyone is raving about Jones, but (just to prove my point), I think he could do better in an attacking sense. He is a fantastic midfielder, but doesn't have the same finish as, say a, Syers, for example.[/p][/quote]Brought up in reply to Victor Clayton as I posted you had an issue then and although you say you criticise all players it just happends to be James Hanson who seems to be your focal point,re Jones agree he is a fantastic midfielder but apart from the goals he gets from his free kicks I don't think PP see's him as a replacement for Syers, Syers could recieve the ball in his own half (when an opposition attack broke down) and run box to box and score, Jones is not that type of player, I may be wrong but I don't believe his scoring record has been great any where he has played. nowt fresh
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10:59pm Sat 10 Nov 12

bcfc1903 says...

Hanson is an excellent player, obviously you'd have to be blind, daft as a brush or not understand the rudiments of the game to disagree with that....obviously he would be missed greatly if he was out of the team for any length of time or one game as Chesterfield proved. I don't think to be fair this thread is anything other than a joke. To win a game 2-0... then start nit picking seems odd and hardly a true reflection of the game and the player in question. Obviouly certain folk have an agenda dating back to a grassing incident years ago. It really is time to put this problem to bed, it's been festering for years on various sites and even raised it's ugly head on tweets on the Pulse.

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We shout with pride...we never hide...Claret and Amber.
Hanson is an excellent player, obviously you'd have to be blind, daft as a brush or not understand the rudiments of the game to disagree with that....obviously he would be missed greatly if he was out of the team for any length of time or one game as Chesterfield proved. I don't think to be fair this thread is anything other than a joke. To win a game 2-0... then start nit picking seems odd and hardly a true reflection of the game and the player in question. Obviouly certain folk have an agenda dating back to a grassing incident years ago. It really is time to put this problem to bed, it's been festering for years on various sites and even raised it's ugly head on tweets on the Pulse. ** We shout with pride...we never hide...Claret and Amber. bcfc1903
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11:01pm Sat 10 Nov 12

nowt fresh says...

macca1969 wrote:
Total nonsense posting. Why is it that no one can say anything about James Hanson? It is a debate that's all. No one has said he is rubbish or not worthy of a place in the team, if so please quote the poster. Even Davies came out and said how Hanson works hard for the team but also said he had to be mindful that he will be judged on goals as well and at the moment he was missing too many. Since Davies made that comment James has gone on to score how many? Zero is the amount for the record. Big James has got value to the team no one argues with that do they. Yes he is the best we have in that role at the club at the moment does that make it wrong to wish he got a few more goals to help the team out, i personally don't think so. Barry Conlon was better in the air than Boulding or Thorne and he was slated on this site by many who back Hanson. Why? Is it because he is a local lad. More importantly i will repeat no one is saying Hanson isn't worth a place in the team, only wishing he might score a few more goals thats all. Now grow up you muppets its a bloodi debate
macca1969 you spoilt a reasonable post with your last comment !! are you the message board police ? if you don't agree with me your a muppet ? love it :-))
[quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: Total nonsense posting. Why is it that no one can say anything about James Hanson? It is a debate that's all. No one has said he is rubbish or not worthy of a place in the team, if so please quote the poster. Even Davies came out and said how Hanson works hard for the team but also said he had to be mindful that he will be judged on goals as well and at the moment he was missing too many. Since Davies made that comment James has gone on to score how many? Zero is the amount for the record. Big James has got value to the team no one argues with that do they. Yes he is the best we have in that role at the club at the moment does that make it wrong to wish he got a few more goals to help the team out, i personally don't think so. Barry Conlon was better in the air than Boulding or Thorne and he was slated on this site by many who back Hanson. Why? Is it because he is a local lad. More importantly i will repeat no one is saying Hanson isn't worth a place in the team, only wishing he might score a few more goals thats all. Now grow up you muppets its a bloodi debate[/p][/quote]macca1969 you spoilt a reasonable post with your last comment !! are you the message board police ? if you don't agree with me your a muppet ? love it :-)) nowt fresh
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11:05pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Onebrianmitchell says...

Devils advocate posting.

How many City wins have come from brilliant, nerve shredding penalty shoot outs in the cup in the last 2 years?

We are the penalty kings.

How often does Hanson take one?
Devils advocate posting. How many City wins have come from brilliant, nerve shredding penalty shoot outs in the cup in the last 2 years? We are the penalty kings. How often does Hanson take one? Onebrianmitchell
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11:06pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Victor Clayton says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
Hanson is an excellent player, obviously you'd have to be blind, daft as a brush or not understand the rudiments of the game to disagree with that....obviously he would be missed greatly if he was out of the team for any length of time or one game as Chesterfield proved. I don't think to be fair this thread is anything other than a joke. To win a game 2-0... then start nit picking seems odd and hardly a true reflection of the game and the player in question. Obviouly certain folk have an agenda dating back to a grassing incident years ago. It really is time to put this problem to bed, it's been festering for years on various sites and even raised it's ugly head on tweets on the Pulse.

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We shout with pride...we never hide...Claret and Amber.
I agree with you in respect of the Hanson thread. Wells is up to 12! his knockers havent been on for a while - joke.
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Hanson is an excellent player, obviously you'd have to be blind, daft as a brush or not understand the rudiments of the game to disagree with that....obviously he would be missed greatly if he was out of the team for any length of time or one game as Chesterfield proved. I don't think to be fair this thread is anything other than a joke. To win a game 2-0... then start nit picking seems odd and hardly a true reflection of the game and the player in question. Obviouly certain folk have an agenda dating back to a grassing incident years ago. It really is time to put this problem to bed, it's been festering for years on various sites and even raised it's ugly head on tweets on the Pulse. ** We shout with pride...we never hide...Claret and Amber.[/p][/quote]I agree with you in respect of the Hanson thread. Wells is up to 12! his knockers havent been on for a while - joke. Victor Clayton
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11:07pm Sat 10 Nov 12

macca1969 says...

Now to post on my thoughts on what is happening this season. PP is doing a magnificent job in both the league (most important) and the cups. Today we sit fourth and with crippling injuries to two key defenders and one of our biggest sparks in Reid. If PP can keep us there or there abouts till the new year i believe we have the foundations laid to push on and make 2013 our year. Well done boys keep it up
Now to post on my thoughts on what is happening this season. PP is doing a magnificent job in both the league (most important) and the cups. Today we sit fourth and with crippling injuries to two key defenders and one of our biggest sparks in Reid. If PP can keep us there or there abouts till the new year i believe we have the foundations laid to push on and make 2013 our year. Well done boys keep it up macca1969
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11:10pm Sat 10 Nov 12

macca1969 says...

nowt fresh wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Total nonsense posting. Why is it that no one can say anything about James Hanson? It is a debate that's all. No one has said he is rubbish or not worthy of a place in the team, if so please quote the poster. Even Davies came out and said how Hanson works hard for the team but also said he had to be mindful that he will be judged on goals as well and at the moment he was missing too many. Since Davies made that comment James has gone on to score how many? Zero is the amount for the record. Big James has got value to the team no one argues with that do they. Yes he is the best we have in that role at the club at the moment does that make it wrong to wish he got a few more goals to help the team out, i personally don't think so. Barry Conlon was better in the air than Boulding or Thorne and he was slated on this site by many who back Hanson. Why? Is it because he is a local lad. More importantly i will repeat no one is saying Hanson isn't worth a place in the team, only wishing he might score a few more goals thats all. Now grow up you muppets its a bloodi debate
macca1969 you spoilt a reasonable post with your last comment !! are you the message board police ? if you don't agree with me your a muppet ? love it :-))
It's late. You are correct that was no need for the muppet quote
[quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: Total nonsense posting. Why is it that no one can say anything about James Hanson? It is a debate that's all. No one has said he is rubbish or not worthy of a place in the team, if so please quote the poster. Even Davies came out and said how Hanson works hard for the team but also said he had to be mindful that he will be judged on goals as well and at the moment he was missing too many. Since Davies made that comment James has gone on to score how many? Zero is the amount for the record. Big James has got value to the team no one argues with that do they. Yes he is the best we have in that role at the club at the moment does that make it wrong to wish he got a few more goals to help the team out, i personally don't think so. Barry Conlon was better in the air than Boulding or Thorne and he was slated on this site by many who back Hanson. Why? Is it because he is a local lad. More importantly i will repeat no one is saying Hanson isn't worth a place in the team, only wishing he might score a few more goals thats all. Now grow up you muppets its a bloodi debate[/p][/quote]macca1969 you spoilt a reasonable post with your last comment !! are you the message board police ? if you don't agree with me your a muppet ? love it :-))[/p][/quote]It's late. You are correct that was no need for the muppet quote macca1969
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11:11pm Sat 10 Nov 12

bcfc1903 says...

Onebrianmitchell wrote:
Devils advocate posting.

How many City wins have come from brilliant, nerve shredding penalty shoot outs in the cup in the last 2 years?

We are the penalty kings.

How often does Hanson take one?
It was meant as an example of the best player in the world who couldn't hit the target from twelve yards lol
[quote][p][bold]Onebrianmitchell[/bold] wrote: Devils advocate posting. How many City wins have come from brilliant, nerve shredding penalty shoot outs in the cup in the last 2 years? We are the penalty kings. How often does Hanson take one?[/p][/quote]It was meant as an example of the best player in the world who couldn't hit the target from twelve yards lol bcfc1903
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11:12pm Sat 10 Nov 12

macca1969 says...

Onebrianmitchell wrote:
Devils advocate posting.

How many City wins have come from brilliant, nerve shredding penalty shoot outs in the cup in the last 2 years?

We are the penalty kings.

How often does Hanson take one?
I remember him taking one and missing, but then all players can miss them look at Man U. Missed 3 or 4 this season
[quote][p][bold]Onebrianmitchell[/bold] wrote: Devils advocate posting. How many City wins have come from brilliant, nerve shredding penalty shoot outs in the cup in the last 2 years? We are the penalty kings. How often does Hanson take one?[/p][/quote]I remember him taking one and missing, but then all players can miss them look at Man U. Missed 3 or 4 this season macca1969
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11:17pm Sat 10 Nov 12

bcfc1903 says...

Victor Clayton wrote:
bcfc1903 wrote:
Hanson is an excellent player, obviously you'd have to be blind, daft as a brush or not understand the rudiments of the game to disagree with that....obviously he would be missed greatly if he was out of the team for any length of time or one game as Chesterfield proved. I don't think to be fair this thread is anything other than a joke. To win a game 2-0... then start nit picking seems odd and hardly a true reflection of the game and the player in question. Obviouly certain folk have an agenda dating back to a grassing incident years ago. It really is time to put this problem to bed, it's been festering for years on various sites and even raised it's ugly head on tweets on the Pulse.

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We shout with pride...we never hide...Claret and Amber.
I agree with you in respect of the Hanson thread. Wells is up to 12! his knockers havent been on for a while - joke.
Yes, he's so confident in front of goal, great that we signed him on a longer deal. My hope is that we get promoted as that is the only way he'll be playing for BCFC next seson. A cool and classy finisher. I believe the Wells /Hanson partnership could gel into a promotion winning duet a bit like Mills and Blake all those years ago.

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We shout with pride...we never hide...Claret and Amber.
[quote][p][bold]Victor Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Hanson is an excellent player, obviously you'd have to be blind, daft as a brush or not understand the rudiments of the game to disagree with that....obviously he would be missed greatly if he was out of the team for any length of time or one game as Chesterfield proved. I don't think to be fair this thread is anything other than a joke. To win a game 2-0... then start nit picking seems odd and hardly a true reflection of the game and the player in question. Obviouly certain folk have an agenda dating back to a grassing incident years ago. It really is time to put this problem to bed, it's been festering for years on various sites and even raised it's ugly head on tweets on the Pulse. ** We shout with pride...we never hide...Claret and Amber.[/p][/quote]I agree with you in respect of the Hanson thread. Wells is up to 12! his knockers havent been on for a while - joke.[/p][/quote]Yes, he's so confident in front of goal, great that we signed him on a longer deal. My hope is that we get promoted as that is the only way he'll be playing for BCFC next seson. A cool and classy finisher. I believe the Wells /Hanson partnership could gel into a promotion winning duet a bit like Mills and Blake all those years ago. ** We shout with pride...we never hide...Claret and Amber. bcfc1903
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11:31pm Sat 10 Nov 12

nowt fresh says...

Willie Eckerslyke wrote:
The heading says Aldershot v Bantams but it looks like it's turned in to a love-in for Jimmy Hanson? Great play has been made of the way he puts himself about, wins his headers and is always considered a handful by opposing managers. At 6ft-4 he is entitled to, of course, but are none of you concerned that we only have one player who seems capable of scoring goals? Other than Nahki's excellent haul Hanson has 4 (lge) goals, Connell has 3 and except for Davies no other player has scored more than once. If the goals were being shared around it wouldn't be a concern that the centre forward wasn't scoring himself but this is not the case. Heaven forbid anything should happen to Nahki but it is difficult to see a sustained promotion challenge if he should be out for any length of time. A quick check of Hanson's scoring record away from VP makes rather grim reading. 4 (lge) goals in 2010/11; 1 goal in 2011/12 and none this season. Indeed he hasn't scored an away goal since 1 Oct 2011. At what he does we don't currently have anyone better at the club so it would be difficult to leave him out but I, for one, would like to see some of the Arsenal money invested in a big lad who can also score goals at this level. PP has already proved he has an eye for a player and our continuing promotion push may depend upon him finding Hanson's replacement.
1 Tom Pope Port Vale 16
2 Jamie Cureton Exeter 12
3 Nahki Wells Bradford 10
3 Rene Howe Torquay 10
5 Adebayo Akinfenwa Northamptn 9
5 Danny Kedwell Gillingham 9
5 Tom Craddock Oxford Utd 9
8 Britt Assombalonga Southend 8
9 Bobby Grant Rochdale 7
9 Alex Nicholls Northamptn 7
9 Padraig Amond Accrington 7
9 Byron Harrison AFC W'don 7
13 Calvin Zola Burton Alb 6
13 Craig Reid Aldershot 6
13 Ashley Chambers York City 6
13 Dwight Gayle Dag + Red 6
13 Luke Howell Dag + Red 6
18 Tom Eaves Bristol R 5
18 Daniel Nardiello Rotherham 5
18 Romuald Boco Accrington 5
No other team above12th position in division 2 have there two leading scorers in the top 18 so why the criticism of Hanson or Connell doing no less than any other striking partnership in division 2. states taken from
http://m.skysports.c
om/leadingscorer/foo
tball/166.
[quote][p][bold]Willie Eckerslyke[/bold] wrote: The heading says Aldershot v Bantams but it looks like it's turned in to a love-in for Jimmy Hanson? Great play has been made of the way he puts himself about, wins his headers and is always considered a handful by opposing managers. At 6ft-4 he is entitled to, of course, but are none of you concerned that we only have one player who seems capable of scoring goals? Other than Nahki's excellent haul Hanson has 4 (lge) goals, Connell has 3 and except for Davies no other player has scored more than once. If the goals were being shared around it wouldn't be a concern that the centre forward wasn't scoring himself but this is not the case. Heaven forbid anything should happen to Nahki but it is difficult to see a sustained promotion challenge if he should be out for any length of time. A quick check of Hanson's scoring record away from VP makes rather grim reading. 4 (lge) goals in 2010/11; 1 goal in 2011/12 and none this season. Indeed he hasn't scored an away goal since 1 Oct 2011. At what he does we don't currently have anyone better at the club so it would be difficult to leave him out but I, for one, would like to see some of the Arsenal money invested in a big lad who can also score goals at this level. PP has already proved he has an eye for a player and our continuing promotion push may depend upon him finding Hanson's replacement.[/p][/quote]1 Tom Pope Port Vale 16 2 Jamie Cureton Exeter 12 3 Nahki Wells Bradford 10 3 Rene Howe Torquay 10 5 Adebayo Akinfenwa Northamptn 9 5 Danny Kedwell Gillingham 9 5 Tom Craddock Oxford Utd 9 8 Britt Assombalonga Southend 8 9 Bobby Grant Rochdale 7 9 Alex Nicholls Northamptn 7 9 Padraig Amond Accrington 7 9 Byron Harrison AFC W'don 7 13 Calvin Zola Burton Alb 6 13 Craig Reid Aldershot 6 13 Ashley Chambers York City 6 13 Dwight Gayle Dag + Red 6 13 Luke Howell Dag + Red 6 18 Tom Eaves Bristol R 5 18 Daniel Nardiello Rotherham 5 18 Romuald Boco Accrington 5 No other team above12th position in division 2 have there two leading scorers in the top 18 so why the criticism of Hanson or Connell doing no less than any other striking partnership in division 2. states taken from http://m.skysports.c om/leadingscorer/foo tball/166. nowt fresh
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11:34pm Sat 10 Nov 12

lonniejockstrap says...

macca1969 wrote:
Total nonsense posting. Why is it that no one can say anything about James Hanson? It is a debate that's all. No one has said he is rubbish or not worthy of a place in the team, if so please quote the poster. Even Davies came out and said how Hanson works hard for the team but also said he had to be mindful that he will be judged on goals as well and at the moment he was missing too many. Since Davies made that comment James has gone on to score how many? Zero is the amount for the record.
Big James has got value to the team no one argues with that do they. Yes he is the best we have in that role at the club at the moment does that make it wrong to wish he got a few more goals to help the team out, i personally don't think so. Barry Conlon was better in the air than Boulding or Thorne and he was slated on this site by many who back Hanson. Why? Is it because he is a local lad.

More importantly i will repeat no one is saying Hanson isn't worth a place in the team, only wishing he might score a few more goals thats all. Now grow up you muppets its a bloodi debate
Not sure whether I am one of your 'muppets' or not macca. People can post criticisms or observations of players on here AND people can disagree with them. What's the problem with that? Are you wanting to allow one but not the other? Some of us defended Conlon as well as Hanson. However, what Conlon's contribution to the then City team has to do with Hanson's contribution so far this season is a mystery to me? I was under the impression we were having a great season and Hanson was a regular member of the first team?
[quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: Total nonsense posting. Why is it that no one can say anything about James Hanson? It is a debate that's all. No one has said he is rubbish or not worthy of a place in the team, if so please quote the poster. Even Davies came out and said how Hanson works hard for the team but also said he had to be mindful that he will be judged on goals as well and at the moment he was missing too many. Since Davies made that comment James has gone on to score how many? Zero is the amount for the record. Big James has got value to the team no one argues with that do they. Yes he is the best we have in that role at the club at the moment does that make it wrong to wish he got a few more goals to help the team out, i personally don't think so. Barry Conlon was better in the air than Boulding or Thorne and he was slated on this site by many who back Hanson. Why? Is it because he is a local lad. More importantly i will repeat no one is saying Hanson isn't worth a place in the team, only wishing he might score a few more goals thats all. Now grow up you muppets its a bloodi debate[/p][/quote]Not sure whether I am one of your 'muppets' or not macca. People can post criticisms or observations of players on here AND people can disagree with them. What's the problem with that? Are you wanting to allow one but not the other? Some of us defended Conlon as well as Hanson. However, what Conlon's contribution to the then City team has to do with Hanson's contribution so far this season is a mystery to me? I was under the impression we were having a great season and Hanson was a regular member of the first team? lonniejockstrap
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11:40pm Sat 10 Nov 12

lonniejockstrap says...

nowt fresh wrote:
Willie Eckerslyke wrote:
The heading says Aldershot v Bantams but it looks like it's turned in to a love-in for Jimmy Hanson? Great play has been made of the way he puts himself about, wins his headers and is always considered a handful by opposing managers. At 6ft-4 he is entitled to, of course, but are none of you concerned that we only have one player who seems capable of scoring goals? Other than Nahki's excellent haul Hanson has 4 (lge) goals, Connell has 3 and except for Davies no other player has scored more than once. If the goals were being shared around it wouldn't be a concern that the centre forward wasn't scoring himself but this is not the case. Heaven forbid anything should happen to Nahki but it is difficult to see a sustained promotion challenge if he should be out for any length of time. A quick check of Hanson's scoring record away from VP makes rather grim reading. 4 (lge) goals in 2010/11; 1 goal in 2011/12 and none this season. Indeed he hasn't scored an away goal since 1 Oct 2011. At what he does we don't currently have anyone better at the club so it would be difficult to leave him out but I, for one, would like to see some of the Arsenal money invested in a big lad who can also score goals at this level. PP has already proved he has an eye for a player and our continuing promotion push may depend upon him finding Hanson's replacement.
1 Tom Pope Port Vale 16
2 Jamie Cureton Exeter 12
3 Nahki Wells Bradford 10
3 Rene Howe Torquay 10
5 Adebayo Akinfenwa Northamptn 9
5 Danny Kedwell Gillingham 9
5 Tom Craddock Oxford Utd 9
8 Britt Assombalonga Southend 8
9 Bobby Grant Rochdale 7
9 Alex Nicholls Northamptn 7
9 Padraig Amond Accrington 7
9 Byron Harrison AFC W'don 7
13 Calvin Zola Burton Alb 6
13 Craig Reid Aldershot 6
13 Ashley Chambers York City 6
13 Dwight Gayle Dag + Red 6
13 Luke Howell Dag + Red 6
18 Tom Eaves Bristol R 5
18 Daniel Nardiello Rotherham 5
18 Romuald Boco Accrington 5
No other team above12th position in division 2 have there two leading scorers in the top 18 so why the criticism of Hanson or Connell doing no less than any other striking partnership in division 2. states taken from
http://m.skysports.c

om/leadingscorer/foo

tball/166.
Good point.
[quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Willie Eckerslyke[/bold] wrote: The heading says Aldershot v Bantams but it looks like it's turned in to a love-in for Jimmy Hanson? Great play has been made of the way he puts himself about, wins his headers and is always considered a handful by opposing managers. At 6ft-4 he is entitled to, of course, but are none of you concerned that we only have one player who seems capable of scoring goals? Other than Nahki's excellent haul Hanson has 4 (lge) goals, Connell has 3 and except for Davies no other player has scored more than once. If the goals were being shared around it wouldn't be a concern that the centre forward wasn't scoring himself but this is not the case. Heaven forbid anything should happen to Nahki but it is difficult to see a sustained promotion challenge if he should be out for any length of time. A quick check of Hanson's scoring record away from VP makes rather grim reading. 4 (lge) goals in 2010/11; 1 goal in 2011/12 and none this season. Indeed he hasn't scored an away goal since 1 Oct 2011. At what he does we don't currently have anyone better at the club so it would be difficult to leave him out but I, for one, would like to see some of the Arsenal money invested in a big lad who can also score goals at this level. PP has already proved he has an eye for a player and our continuing promotion push may depend upon him finding Hanson's replacement.[/p][/quote]1 Tom Pope Port Vale 16 2 Jamie Cureton Exeter 12 3 Nahki Wells Bradford 10 3 Rene Howe Torquay 10 5 Adebayo Akinfenwa Northamptn 9 5 Danny Kedwell Gillingham 9 5 Tom Craddock Oxford Utd 9 8 Britt Assombalonga Southend 8 9 Bobby Grant Rochdale 7 9 Alex Nicholls Northamptn 7 9 Padraig Amond Accrington 7 9 Byron Harrison AFC W'don 7 13 Calvin Zola Burton Alb 6 13 Craig Reid Aldershot 6 13 Ashley Chambers York City 6 13 Dwight Gayle Dag + Red 6 13 Luke Howell Dag + Red 6 18 Tom Eaves Bristol R 5 18 Daniel Nardiello Rotherham 5 18 Romuald Boco Accrington 5 No other team above12th position in division 2 have there two leading scorers in the top 18 so why the criticism of Hanson or Connell doing no less than any other striking partnership in division 2. states taken from http://m.skysports.c om/leadingscorer/foo tball/166.[/p][/quote]Good point. lonniejockstrap
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11:42pm Sat 10 Nov 12

nowt fresh says...

Play mediaAldershot Town manager told BBC Surrey:

"They are a decent team and played a strategy today and isolated Hanson on our back four and I thought he was the difference.

Love it just Love it but what the hell does Holdsworth know about "target men"
Dean Holdsworth Personal information
Full name Dean Christopher Holdsworth
Date of birth (1968-11-08) 8 November 1968 (age 44)
Place of birth Walthamstow, England
Height 5 ft 11 in (1.80 m)
Playing position Striker
Club information
Current club Aldershot Town (manager)
Senior career*
Years Team Apps† (Gls)†
1986–1989 Watford 16 (3)
1988 → Carlisle United (loan) 4 (1)
1988 → Port Vale (loan) 6 (2)
1988 → Swansea City (loan) 5 (1)
1988 → Brentford (loan) 7 (1)
1989–1992 Brentford 110 (53)
1992–1997 Wimbledon 169 (58)
1997–2003 Bolton Wanderers 158 (39)
2002 → Coventry City (loan) 6 (0)
2003 Coventry City 11 (0)
2003 Rushden & Diamonds 7 (2)
2003–2004 Wimbledon 28 (3)
2004–2005 Havant & Waterlooville 48 (25)
2005 Derby County 3 (0)
2006 Weymouth 5 (0)
2006–2007 Heybridge Swifts 9 (1)
2007 Cambridge United 3 (1)
2007 Newport County 12 (3)
2007–2008 Redbridge 3 (0)
Total 610 (193)
National team
Play mediaAldershot Town manager told BBC Surrey: "They are a decent team and played a strategy today and isolated Hanson on our back four and I thought he was the difference. Love it just Love it but what the hell does Holdsworth know about "target men" Dean Holdsworth Personal information Full name Dean Christopher Holdsworth[1] Date of birth (1968-11-08) 8 November 1968 (age 44) Place of birth Walthamstow, England Height 5 ft 11 in (1.80 m) Playing position Striker Club information Current club Aldershot Town (manager) Senior career* Years Team Apps† (Gls)† 1986–1989 Watford 16 (3) 1988 → Carlisle United (loan) 4 (1) 1988 → Port Vale (loan) 6 (2) 1988 → Swansea City (loan) 5 (1) 1988 → Brentford (loan) 7 (1) 1989–1992 Brentford 110 (53) 1992–1997 Wimbledon 169 (58) 1997–2003 Bolton Wanderers 158 (39) 2002 → Coventry City (loan) 6 (0) 2003 Coventry City 11 (0) 2003 Rushden & Diamonds 7 (2) 2003–2004 Wimbledon 28 (3) 2004–2005 Havant & Waterlooville 48 (25) 2005 Derby County 3 (0) 2006 Weymouth 5 (0) 2006–2007 Heybridge Swifts 9 (1) 2007 Cambridge United 3 (1) 2007 Newport County 12 (3) 2007–2008 Redbridge 3 (0) Total 610 (193) National team nowt fresh
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11:46pm Sat 10 Nov 12

nowt fresh says...

Onebrianmitchell wrote:
Devils advocate posting. How many City wins have come from brilliant, nerve shredding penalty shoot outs in the cup in the last 2 years? We are the penalty kings. How often does Hanson take one?
Yes Onebrianmitchell playing Devils advocate :Duke scored a penalty in the shoot outs let's give him the No 9 shirt ??.
[quote][p][bold]Onebrianmitchell[/bold] wrote: Devils advocate posting. How many City wins have come from brilliant, nerve shredding penalty shoot outs in the cup in the last 2 years? We are the penalty kings. How often does Hanson take one?[/p][/quote]Yes Onebrianmitchell playing Devils advocate :Duke scored a penalty in the shoot outs let's give him the No 9 shirt ??. nowt fresh
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11:52pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Onebrianmitchell says...

nowt fresh wrote:
Onebrianmitchell wrote:
Devils advocate posting. How many City wins have come from brilliant, nerve shredding penalty shoot outs in the cup in the last 2 years? We are the penalty kings. How often does Hanson take one?
Yes Onebrianmitchell playing Devils advocate :Duke scored a penalty in the shoot outs let's give him the No 9 shirt ??.
Answer the question.
[quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Onebrianmitchell[/bold] wrote: Devils advocate posting. How many City wins have come from brilliant, nerve shredding penalty shoot outs in the cup in the last 2 years? We are the penalty kings. How often does Hanson take one?[/p][/quote]Yes Onebrianmitchell playing Devils advocate :Duke scored a penalty in the shoot outs let's give him the No 9 shirt ??.[/p][/quote]Answer the question. Onebrianmitchell
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11:58pm Sat 10 Nov 12

nowt fresh says...

Onebrianmitchell wrote:
nowt fresh wrote:
Onebrianmitchell wrote: Devils advocate posting. How many City wins have come from brilliant, nerve shredding penalty shoot outs in the cup in the last 2 years? We are the penalty kings. How often does Hanson take one?
Yes Onebrianmitchell playing Devils advocate :Duke scored a penalty in the shoot outs let's give him the No 9 shirt ??.
Answer the question.
He doesn't !! so whats your point ?
don't know how far you go back Onebrianmitchell but I'm sure you and I could name several "strkers/target men" who didn't take penalties for Bradford City so I'll ask you the question whats your point ?.
[quote][p][bold]Onebrianmitchell[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Onebrianmitchell[/bold] wrote: Devils advocate posting. How many City wins have come from brilliant, nerve shredding penalty shoot outs in the cup in the last 2 years? We are the penalty kings. How often does Hanson take one?[/p][/quote]Yes Onebrianmitchell playing Devils advocate :Duke scored a penalty in the shoot outs let's give him the No 9 shirt ??.[/p][/quote]Answer the question.[/p][/quote]He doesn't !! so whats your point ? don't know how far you go back Onebrianmitchell but I'm sure you and I could name several "strkers/target men" who didn't take penalties for Bradford City so I'll ask you the question whats your point ?. nowt fresh
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12:03am Sun 11 Nov 12

Onebrianmitchell says...

nowt fresh wrote:
Onebrianmitchell wrote:
Devils advocate posting. How many City wins have come from brilliant, nerve shredding penalty shoot outs in the cup in the last 2 years? We are the penalty kings. How often does Hanson take one?
Yes Onebrianmitchell playing Devils advocate :Duke scored a penalty in the shoot outs let's give him the No 9 shirt ??.
I've tried to be kind and ignore this.

What a poor, stupendous, thick, unfounded come back this is.

In a strange, football like, unknown universe a BCAFC keeper took a penalty. Only a brain dead person would try and use this worldy event as a point of debate. Only that idiot could use it to debate a striker. But, hey that's the Tand A website.

Again, when has Hanson taken a penalty? Did he take one at Wigan?
[quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Onebrianmitchell[/bold] wrote: Devils advocate posting. How many City wins have come from brilliant, nerve shredding penalty shoot outs in the cup in the last 2 years? We are the penalty kings. How often does Hanson take one?[/p][/quote]Yes Onebrianmitchell playing Devils advocate :Duke scored a penalty in the shoot outs let's give him the No 9 shirt ??.[/p][/quote]I've tried to be kind and ignore this. What a poor, stupendous, thick, unfounded come back this is. In a strange, football like, unknown universe a BCAFC keeper took a penalty. Only a brain dead person would try and use this worldy event as a point of debate. Only that idiot could use it to debate a striker. But, hey that's the Tand A website. Again, when has Hanson taken a penalty? Did he take one at Wigan? Onebrianmitchell
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12:05am Sun 11 Nov 12

Onebrianmitchell says...

nowt fresh wrote:
Onebrianmitchell wrote:
nowt fresh wrote:
Onebrianmitchell wrote: Devils advocate posting. How many City wins have come from brilliant, nerve shredding penalty shoot outs in the cup in the last 2 years? We are the penalty kings. How often does Hanson take one?
Yes Onebrianmitchell playing Devils advocate :Duke scored a penalty in the shoot outs let's give him the No 9 shirt ??.
Answer the question.
He doesn't !! so whats your point ?
don't know how far you go back Onebrianmitchell but I'm sure you and I could name several "strkers/target men" who didn't take penalties for Bradford City so I'll ask you the question whats your point ?.
Show me a striker who doesn't take a penalty and I will show you a loser.
[quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Onebrianmitchell[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Onebrianmitchell[/bold] wrote: Devils advocate posting. How many City wins have come from brilliant, nerve shredding penalty shoot outs in the cup in the last 2 years? We are the penalty kings. How often does Hanson take one?[/p][/quote]Yes Onebrianmitchell playing Devils advocate :Duke scored a penalty in the shoot outs let's give him the No 9 shirt ??.[/p][/quote]Answer the question.[/p][/quote]He doesn't !! so whats your point ? don't know how far you go back Onebrianmitchell but I'm sure you and I could name several "strkers/target men" who didn't take penalties for Bradford City so I'll ask you the question whats your point ?.[/p][/quote]Show me a striker who doesn't take a penalty and I will show you a loser. Onebrianmitchell
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12:07am Sun 11 Nov 12

nowt fresh says...

Onebrianmitchell wrote:
nowt fresh wrote:
Onebrianmitchell wrote: Devils advocate posting. How many City wins have come from brilliant, nerve shredding penalty shoot outs in the cup in the last 2 years? We are the penalty kings. How often does Hanson take one?
Yes Onebrianmitchell playing Devils advocate :Duke scored a penalty in the shoot outs let's give him the No 9 shirt ??.
I've tried to be kind and ignore this. What a poor, stupendous, thick, unfounded come back this is. In a strange, football like, unknown universe a BCAFC keeper took a penalty. Only a brain dead person would try and use this worldy event as a point of debate. Only that idiot could use it to debate a striker. But, hey that's the Tand A website. Again, when has Hanson taken a penalty? Did he take one at Wigan?
Well what a well thought out reply !! I won't stoop to personal abuse Onebrianmitchell as you seem to hold all the aces on that subject and some on here talk about ADULT debate.
[quote][p][bold]Onebrianmitchell[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Onebrianmitchell[/bold] wrote: Devils advocate posting. How many City wins have come from brilliant, nerve shredding penalty shoot outs in the cup in the last 2 years? We are the penalty kings. How often does Hanson take one?[/p][/quote]Yes Onebrianmitchell playing Devils advocate :Duke scored a penalty in the shoot outs let's give him the No 9 shirt ??.[/p][/quote]I've tried to be kind and ignore this. What a poor, stupendous, thick, unfounded come back this is. In a strange, football like, unknown universe a BCAFC keeper took a penalty. Only a brain dead person would try and use this worldy event as a point of debate. Only that idiot could use it to debate a striker. But, hey that's the Tand A website. Again, when has Hanson taken a penalty? Did he take one at Wigan?[/p][/quote]Well what a well thought out reply !! I won't stoop to personal abuse Onebrianmitchell as you seem to hold all the aces on that subject and some on here talk about ADULT debate. nowt fresh
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1:24am Sun 11 Nov 12

lonniejockstrap says...

Two assists from Hanson in our latest win I see!
Two assists from Hanson in our latest win I see! lonniejockstrap
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2:40am Sun 11 Nov 12

Shadrach Dingle says...

'Duke has done well recently but he frightens me to death on crosses and I think we need to be stronger in goal as we pepare for the long haul.'

I agree. I cringed when I heard Thornton say, 'Duke came for a cross and flapped at it'. Any keeper can fling himself about and make showbiz finger tip saves but I judge goalkeepers on how well they cope with crosses and I'm afraid Duke just isn't up to the mark. Imho McLaughlin is seriously under-rated and the sooner he's back between the sticks the better.

'I think a big well done to our defence, McArdle, Egan and McHugh have done fantastic work since both Oliver and Davies got sidelined...thought we'd struggle badly without these two rocks but the Irish have done our club proud'

'Must say McArdle and Egan look a class act, incredible that we've lost the rocks that are Davies and Oliver yet our defence looks as strong, brilliant picks by Parkinson.'

The truth is we haven't missed Oliver at all. In fact it's blatantly obvious that we're a much better team without him. McArdle, McHugh, Egan and even Nathan Doyle who are all nimbler on their feet would be a better option to partner Davies in the heart of our defence.
'Duke has done well recently but he frightens me to death on crosses and I think we need to be stronger in goal as we pepare for the long haul.' I agree. I cringed when I heard Thornton say, 'Duke came for a cross and flapped at it'. Any keeper can fling himself about and make showbiz finger tip saves but I judge goalkeepers on how well they cope with crosses and I'm afraid Duke just isn't up to the mark. Imho McLaughlin is seriously under-rated and the sooner he's back between the sticks the better. 'I think a big well done to our defence, McArdle, Egan and McHugh have done fantastic work since both Oliver and Davies got sidelined...thought we'd struggle badly without these two rocks but the Irish have done our club proud' 'Must say McArdle and Egan look a class act, incredible that we've lost the rocks that are Davies and Oliver yet our defence looks as strong, brilliant picks by Parkinson.' The truth is we haven't missed Oliver at all. In fact it's blatantly obvious that we're a much better team without him. McArdle, McHugh, Egan and even Nathan Doyle who are all nimbler on their feet would be a better option to partner Davies in the heart of our defence. Shadrach Dingle
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5:20am Sun 11 Nov 12

northyorksbantam says...

nowt fresh wrote:
Willie Eckerslyke wrote:
The heading says Aldershot v Bantams but it looks like it's turned in to a love-in for Jimmy Hanson? Great play has been made of the way he puts himself about, wins his headers and is always considered a handful by opposing managers. At 6ft-4 he is entitled to, of course, but are none of you concerned that we only have one player who seems capable of scoring goals? Other than Nahki's excellent haul Hanson has 4 (lge) goals, Connell has 3 and except for Davies no other player has scored more than once. If the goals were being shared around it wouldn't be a concern that the centre forward wasn't scoring himself but this is not the case. Heaven forbid anything should happen to Nahki but it is difficult to see a sustained promotion challenge if he should be out for any length of time. A quick check of Hanson's scoring record away from VP makes rather grim reading. 4 (lge) goals in 2010/11; 1 goal in 2011/12 and none this season. Indeed he hasn't scored an away goal since 1 Oct 2011. At what he does we don't currently have anyone better at the club so it would be difficult to leave him out but I, for one, would like to see some of the Arsenal money invested in a big lad who can also score goals at this level. PP has already proved he has an eye for a player and our continuing promotion push may depend upon him finding Hanson's replacement.
1 Tom Pope Port Vale 16
2 Jamie Cureton Exeter 12
3 Nahki Wells Bradford 10
3 Rene Howe Torquay 10
5 Adebayo Akinfenwa Northamptn 9
5 Danny Kedwell Gillingham 9
5 Tom Craddock Oxford Utd 9
8 Britt Assombalonga Southend 8
9 Bobby Grant Rochdale 7
9 Alex Nicholls Northamptn 7
9 Padraig Amond Accrington 7
9 Byron Harrison AFC W'don 7
13 Calvin Zola Burton Alb 6
13 Craig Reid Aldershot 6
13 Ashley Chambers York City 6
13 Dwight Gayle Dag + Red 6
13 Luke Howell Dag + Red 6
18 Tom Eaves Bristol R 5
18 Daniel Nardiello Rotherham 5
18 Romuald Boco Accrington 5
No other team above12th position in division 2 have there two leading scorers in the top 18 so why the criticism of Hanson or Connell doing no less than any other striking partnership in division 2. states taken from
http://m.skysports.c

om/leadingscorer/foo

tball/166.
Useful post which highlights Hansons lack of goals.

He is is not in the top 18 goal scorers in league 2 currently. As a centre forward he will probably be quite disappointed with this. Just because Wells is right up there and other clubs haven't got 2 in there doesn't mean to say James shouldn't be, if he can weigh in with a few more that could be the differnce between auto spots or the play-offs.

In fact he currently sits joint 29th with 17 other players in the scoring charts. One goal less and it would be joint 46th, I would struggle to think of a CF that could be satisfied with this.

Although he can be happy with other aspects of his game which is well highlighted, and which is more than keeping him in the team on merit, goal scoring seems to be a problem at the moment and its not all down to bad crosses etc,his finishing has been poor for some time, hopefully when he gets one in, in any which way he can, it will start happening for him again...
[quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Willie Eckerslyke[/bold] wrote: The heading says Aldershot v Bantams but it looks like it's turned in to a love-in for Jimmy Hanson? Great play has been made of the way he puts himself about, wins his headers and is always considered a handful by opposing managers. At 6ft-4 he is entitled to, of course, but are none of you concerned that we only have one player who seems capable of scoring goals? Other than Nahki's excellent haul Hanson has 4 (lge) goals, Connell has 3 and except for Davies no other player has scored more than once. If the goals were being shared around it wouldn't be a concern that the centre forward wasn't scoring himself but this is not the case. Heaven forbid anything should happen to Nahki but it is difficult to see a sustained promotion challenge if he should be out for any length of time. A quick check of Hanson's scoring record away from VP makes rather grim reading. 4 (lge) goals in 2010/11; 1 goal in 2011/12 and none this season. Indeed he hasn't scored an away goal since 1 Oct 2011. At what he does we don't currently have anyone better at the club so it would be difficult to leave him out but I, for one, would like to see some of the Arsenal money invested in a big lad who can also score goals at this level. PP has already proved he has an eye for a player and our continuing promotion push may depend upon him finding Hanson's replacement.[/p][/quote]1 Tom Pope Port Vale 16 2 Jamie Cureton Exeter 12 3 Nahki Wells Bradford 10 3 Rene Howe Torquay 10 5 Adebayo Akinfenwa Northamptn 9 5 Danny Kedwell Gillingham 9 5 Tom Craddock Oxford Utd 9 8 Britt Assombalonga Southend 8 9 Bobby Grant Rochdale 7 9 Alex Nicholls Northamptn 7 9 Padraig Amond Accrington 7 9 Byron Harrison AFC W'don 7 13 Calvin Zola Burton Alb 6 13 Craig Reid Aldershot 6 13 Ashley Chambers York City 6 13 Dwight Gayle Dag + Red 6 13 Luke Howell Dag + Red 6 18 Tom Eaves Bristol R 5 18 Daniel Nardiello Rotherham 5 18 Romuald Boco Accrington 5 No other team above12th position in division 2 have there two leading scorers in the top 18 so why the criticism of Hanson or Connell doing no less than any other striking partnership in division 2. states taken from http://m.skysports.c om/leadingscorer/foo tball/166.[/p][/quote]Useful post which highlights Hansons lack of goals. He is is not in the top 18 goal scorers in league 2 currently. As a centre forward he will probably be quite disappointed with this. Just because Wells is right up there and other clubs haven't got 2 in there doesn't mean to say James shouldn't be, if he can weigh in with a few more that could be the differnce between auto spots or the play-offs. In fact he currently sits joint 29th with 17 other players in the scoring charts. One goal less and it would be joint 46th, I would struggle to think of a CF that could be satisfied with this. Although he can be happy with other aspects of his game which is well highlighted, and which is more than keeping him in the team on merit, goal scoring seems to be a problem at the moment and its not all down to bad crosses etc,his finishing has been poor for some time, hopefully when he gets one in, in any which way he can, it will start happening for him again... northyorksbantam
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8:30am Sun 11 Nov 12

macca1969 says...

Totally agree, he just needs one to bounce in off his shin and the goals will flow. I do actually appreciate what he brings to the team but it just makes me laugh when people come on here spouting he is a twenty a season man, that he will never be sorry. Although anything less than twelve a season will be deemed a poor return in my books
Totally agree, he just needs one to bounce in off his shin and the goals will flow. I do actually appreciate what he brings to the team but it just makes me laugh when people come on here spouting he is a twenty a season man, that he will never be sorry. Although anything less than twelve a season will be deemed a poor return in my books macca1969
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10:14am Sun 11 Nov 12

al&co says...

Please accept my apologies everybody!

I did say in my earlier post that Hanson played a big part in our first goal and that was wrong - my mistake - it was the second goal as has been correctly pointed out.

I do try and post accurately and consructively but I had a senior moment - easily done at my age.

I consider myself suiable chastised and will try and do better in future!
Please accept my apologies everybody! I did say in my earlier post that Hanson played a big part in our first goal and that was wrong - my mistake - it was the second goal as has been correctly pointed out. I do try and post accurately and consructively but I had a senior moment - easily done at my age. I consider myself suiable chastised and will try and do better in future! al&co
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10:14am Sun 11 Nov 12

nowt fresh says...

northyorksbantam wrote:
nowt fresh wrote:
Willie Eckerslyke wrote: The heading says Aldershot v Bantams but it looks like it's turned in to a love-in for Jimmy Hanson? Great play has been made of the way he puts himself about, wins his headers and is always considered a handful by opposing managers. At 6ft-4 he is entitled to, of course, but are none of you concerned that we only have one player who seems capable of scoring goals? Other than Nahki's excellent haul Hanson has 4 (lge) goals, Connell has 3 and except for Davies no other player has scored more than once. If the goals were being shared around it wouldn't be a concern that the centre forward wasn't scoring himself but this is not the case. Heaven forbid anything should happen to Nahki but it is difficult to see a sustained promotion challenge if he should be out for any length of time. A quick check of Hanson's scoring record away from VP makes rather grim reading. 4 (lge) goals in 2010/11; 1 goal in 2011/12 and none this season. Indeed he hasn't scored an away goal since 1 Oct 2011. At what he does we don't currently have anyone better at the club so it would be difficult to leave him out but I, for one, would like to see some of the Arsenal money invested in a big lad who can also score goals at this level. PP has already proved he has an eye for a player and our continuing promotion push may depend upon him finding Hanson's replacement.
1 Tom Pope Port Vale 16 2 Jamie Cureton Exeter 12 3 Nahki Wells Bradford 10 3 Rene Howe Torquay 10 5 Adebayo Akinfenwa Northamptn 9 5 Danny Kedwell Gillingham 9 5 Tom Craddock Oxford Utd 9 8 Britt Assombalonga Southend 8 9 Bobby Grant Rochdale 7 9 Alex Nicholls Northamptn 7 9 Padraig Amond Accrington 7 9 Byron Harrison AFC W'don 7 13 Calvin Zola Burton Alb 6 13 Craig Reid Aldershot 6 13 Ashley Chambers York City 6 13 Dwight Gayle Dag + Red 6 13 Luke Howell Dag + Red 6 18 Tom Eaves Bristol R 5 18 Daniel Nardiello Rotherham 5 18 Romuald Boco Accrington 5 No other team above12th position in division 2 have there two leading scorers in the top 18 so why the criticism of Hanson or Connell doing no less than any other striking partnership in division 2. states taken from http://m.skysports.c om/leadingscorer/foo tball/166.
Useful post which highlights Hansons lack of goals. He is is not in the top 18 goal scorers in league 2 currently. As a centre forward he will probably be quite disappointed with this. Just because Wells is right up there and other clubs haven't got 2 in there doesn't mean to say James shouldn't be, if he can weigh in with a few more that could be the differnce between auto spots or the play-offs. In fact he currently sits joint 29th with 17 other players in the scoring charts. One goal less and it would be joint 46th, I would struggle to think of a CF that could be satisfied with this. Although he can be happy with other aspects of his game which is well highlighted, and which is more than keeping him in the team on merit, goal scoring seems to be a problem at the moment and its not all down to bad crosses etc,his finishing has been poor for some time, hopefully when he gets one in, in any which way he can, it will start happening for him again...
northyorksbantam my post was in responce to Willie Eckerslyke comment about only having one player who seems to be able to score ! just pointing out non of the teams in auto/play off positions have two in the top 18 goalscorers in our division,can't argue that James has not scored more I'm sure he's doing all he can to rectify that but it still does not alter the fact that promotion chasing teams don't have two strikers who share the goals at this time in the season as the above stats show ?.
[quote][p][bold]northyorksbantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Willie Eckerslyke[/bold] wrote: The heading says Aldershot v Bantams but it looks like it's turned in to a love-in for Jimmy Hanson? Great play has been made of the way he puts himself about, wins his headers and is always considered a handful by opposing managers. At 6ft-4 he is entitled to, of course, but are none of you concerned that we only have one player who seems capable of scoring goals? Other than Nahki's excellent haul Hanson has 4 (lge) goals, Connell has 3 and except for Davies no other player has scored more than once. If the goals were being shared around it wouldn't be a concern that the centre forward wasn't scoring himself but this is not the case. Heaven forbid anything should happen to Nahki but it is difficult to see a sustained promotion challenge if he should be out for any length of time. A quick check of Hanson's scoring record away from VP makes rather grim reading. 4 (lge) goals in 2010/11; 1 goal in 2011/12 and none this season. Indeed he hasn't scored an away goal since 1 Oct 2011. At what he does we don't currently have anyone better at the club so it would be difficult to leave him out but I, for one, would like to see some of the Arsenal money invested in a big lad who can also score goals at this level. PP has already proved he has an eye for a player and our continuing promotion push may depend upon him finding Hanson's replacement.[/p][/quote]1 Tom Pope Port Vale 16 2 Jamie Cureton Exeter 12 3 Nahki Wells Bradford 10 3 Rene Howe Torquay 10 5 Adebayo Akinfenwa Northamptn 9 5 Danny Kedwell Gillingham 9 5 Tom Craddock Oxford Utd 9 8 Britt Assombalonga Southend 8 9 Bobby Grant Rochdale 7 9 Alex Nicholls Northamptn 7 9 Padraig Amond Accrington 7 9 Byron Harrison AFC W'don 7 13 Calvin Zola Burton Alb 6 13 Craig Reid Aldershot 6 13 Ashley Chambers York City 6 13 Dwight Gayle Dag + Red 6 13 Luke Howell Dag + Red 6 18 Tom Eaves Bristol R 5 18 Daniel Nardiello Rotherham 5 18 Romuald Boco Accrington 5 No other team above12th position in division 2 have there two leading scorers in the top 18 so why the criticism of Hanson or Connell doing no less than any other striking partnership in division 2. states taken from http://m.skysports.c om/leadingscorer/foo tball/166.[/p][/quote]Useful post which highlights Hansons lack of goals. He is is not in the top 18 goal scorers in league 2 currently. As a centre forward he will probably be quite disappointed with this. Just because Wells is right up there and other clubs haven't got 2 in there doesn't mean to say James shouldn't be, if he can weigh in with a few more that could be the differnce between auto spots or the play-offs. In fact he currently sits joint 29th with 17 other players in the scoring charts. One goal less and it would be joint 46th, I would struggle to think of a CF that could be satisfied with this. Although he can be happy with other aspects of his game which is well highlighted, and which is more than keeping him in the team on merit, goal scoring seems to be a problem at the moment and its not all down to bad crosses etc,his finishing has been poor for some time, hopefully when he gets one in, in any which way he can, it will start happening for him again...[/p][/quote]northyorksbantam my post was in responce to Willie Eckerslyke comment about only having one player who seems to be able to score ! just pointing out non of the teams in auto/play off positions have two in the top 18 goalscorers in our division,can't argue that James has not scored more I'm sure he's doing all he can to rectify that but it still does not alter the fact that promotion chasing teams don't have two strikers who share the goals at this time in the season as the above stats show ?. nowt fresh
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10:26am Sun 11 Nov 12

nowt fresh says...

After watching the goals on FLS it showed that Hanson has no input in Wells first goal so I apologise to you Waynus1971 for taking al&co account of the first goal, as I said at the time he was at the game but he got the assist the wrong way round which he has also apologised for.
After watching the goals on FLS it showed that Hanson has no input in Wells first goal so I apologise to you Waynus1971 for taking al&co account of the first goal, as I said at the time he was at the game but he got the assist the wrong way round which he has also apologised for. nowt fresh
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10:32am Sun 11 Nov 12

bcfc1903 says...

Shadrach Dingle wrote:
'Duke has done well recently but he frightens me to death on crosses and I think we need to be stronger in goal as we pepare for the long haul.'

I agree. I cringed when I heard Thornton say, 'Duke came for a cross and flapped at it'. Any keeper can fling himself about and make showbiz finger tip saves but I judge goalkeepers on how well they cope with crosses and I'm afraid Duke just isn't up to the mark. Imho McLaughlin is seriously under-rated and the sooner he's back between the sticks the better.

'I think a big well done to our defence, McArdle, Egan and McHugh have done fantastic work since both Oliver and Davies got sidelined...thought we'd struggle badly without these two rocks but the Irish have done our club proud'

'Must say McArdle and Egan look a class act, incredible that we've lost the rocks that are Davies and Oliver yet our defence looks as strong, brilliant picks by Parkinson.'

The truth is we haven't missed Oliver at all. In fact it's blatantly obvious that we're a much better team without him. McArdle, McHugh, Egan and even Nathan Doyle who are all nimbler on their feet would be a better option to partner Davies in the heart of our defence.
Luckily, i've never spouted off that Hanson is a 20 goal a season man lol...i'd say he's a 15 goal a season man add to that his many assists and as most managers in this league agree, Hanson is a real handfull desrving far more than some of the tosh spouted on this particular thread.

**
Na then our shadrach, i'll simply say we haven't missed both Oliver and Davies who have been rocks this season as both were last season...the reason for that is that Parkinson signed another excellent central defender in McArdle and the equally impressive signing of Egan who looks a cool and classy defender. In regards to the on going keeping duel between McLaughlin and Duke...for me Duke is a better keeper...the real test of a keeper is not taking crosses....but how many goals he conceeds, McLaughlin seems to unfortunately let in more goals...consistency is also key and Duke has certainly shown that since coming back in between the sticks for the Wigan cup game. Well done to him and all the players for a fantastic win down at Aldershot.

**
We shout with pride....we never hide....Claret and Amber.
[quote][p][bold]Shadrach Dingle[/bold] wrote: 'Duke has done well recently but he frightens me to death on crosses and I think we need to be stronger in goal as we pepare for the long haul.' I agree. I cringed when I heard Thornton say, 'Duke came for a cross and flapped at it'. Any keeper can fling himself about and make showbiz finger tip saves but I judge goalkeepers on how well they cope with crosses and I'm afraid Duke just isn't up to the mark. Imho McLaughlin is seriously under-rated and the sooner he's back between the sticks the better. 'I think a big well done to our defence, McArdle, Egan and McHugh have done fantastic work since both Oliver and Davies got sidelined...thought we'd struggle badly without these two rocks but the Irish have done our club proud' 'Must say McArdle and Egan look a class act, incredible that we've lost the rocks that are Davies and Oliver yet our defence looks as strong, brilliant picks by Parkinson.' The truth is we haven't missed Oliver at all. In fact it's blatantly obvious that we're a much better team without him. McArdle, McHugh, Egan and even Nathan Doyle who are all nimbler on their feet would be a better option to partner Davies in the heart of our defence.[/p][/quote]Luckily, i've never spouted off that Hanson is a 20 goal a season man lol...i'd say he's a 15 goal a season man add to that his many assists and as most managers in this league agree, Hanson is a real handfull desrving far more than some of the tosh spouted on this particular thread. ** Na then our shadrach, i'll simply say we haven't missed both Oliver and Davies who have been rocks this season as both were last season...the reason for that is that Parkinson signed another excellent central defender in McArdle and the equally impressive signing of Egan who looks a cool and classy defender. In regards to the on going keeping duel between McLaughlin and Duke...for me Duke is a better keeper...the real test of a keeper is not taking crosses....but how many goals he conceeds, McLaughlin seems to unfortunately let in more goals...consistency is also key and Duke has certainly shown that since coming back in between the sticks for the Wigan cup game. Well done to him and all the players for a fantastic win down at Aldershot. ** We shout with pride....we never hide....Claret and Amber. bcfc1903
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11:21am Sun 11 Nov 12

audal says...

Just an observation but over the years with the style and rewards different we have seen the demise of the centre forward whose job was to rattle in 40 gls a season, we saw the next tally to be around 30gls. to be replaced by an accepted(sic) 20. i now read of supporters posting letters stating that double figures could be ok. if......blah,blah,bl
ah. bring back the C.F. whose job it is,is to score goals and not run around backwards and forwards. ps. i like Hanson but not the way he is told to play.
Just an observation but over the years with the style and rewards different we have seen the demise of the centre forward whose job was to rattle in 40 gls a season, we saw the next tally to be around 30gls. to be replaced by an accepted(sic) 20. i now read of supporters posting letters stating that double figures could be ok. if......blah,blah,bl ah. bring back the C.F. whose job it is,is to score goals and not run around backwards and forwards. ps. i like Hanson but not the way he is told to play. audal
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11:37am Sun 11 Nov 12

lonniejockstrap says...

nowt fresh wrote:
After watching the goals on FLS it showed that Hanson has no input in Wells first goal so I apologise to you Waynus1971 for taking al&co account of the first goal, as I said at the time he was at the game but he got the assist the wrong way round which he has also apologised for.
Hanson flicked on for Wells to run half the field score.
[quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: After watching the goals on FLS it showed that Hanson has no input in Wells first goal so I apologise to you Waynus1971 for taking al&co account of the first goal, as I said at the time he was at the game but he got the assist the wrong way round which he has also apologised for.[/p][/quote]Hanson flicked on for Wells to run half the field score. lonniejockstrap
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11:58am Sun 11 Nov 12

nowt fresh says...

lonniejockstrap wrote:
nowt fresh wrote: After watching the goals on FLS it showed that Hanson has no input in Wells first goal so I apologise to you Waynus1971 for taking al&co account of the first goal, as I said at the time he was at the game but he got the assist the wrong way round which he has also apologised for.
Hanson flicked on for Wells to run half the field score.
May be so but their defender made a right taws of defending ?.
[quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: After watching the goals on FLS it showed that Hanson has no input in Wells first goal so I apologise to you Waynus1971 for taking al&co account of the first goal, as I said at the time he was at the game but he got the assist the wrong way round which he has also apologised for.[/p][/quote]Hanson flicked on for Wells to run half the field score.[/p][/quote]May be so but their defender made a right taws of defending ?. nowt fresh
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12:01pm Sun 11 Nov 12

tyker2 says...

celebrate a 4 th place : celebrate a good performancce against a team struggling but improvong slowly.

Relatives who went said we were never iat real risk and played better football all over the park with good performances from all and in particular Meredith who they thought was a class act
celebrate a 4 th place : celebrate a good performancce against a team struggling but improvong slowly. Relatives who went said we were never iat real risk and played better football all over the park with good performances from all and in particular Meredith who they thought was a class act tyker2
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12:08pm Sun 11 Nov 12

lonniejockstrap says...

nowt fresh wrote:
lonniejockstrap wrote:
nowt fresh wrote: After watching the goals on FLS it showed that Hanson has no input in Wells first goal so I apologise to you Waynus1971 for taking al&co account of the first goal, as I said at the time he was at the game but he got the assist the wrong way round which he has also apologised for.
Hanson flicked on for Wells to run half the field score.
May be so but their defender made a right taws of defending ?.
He did indeed, but if Hanson hadn't won the header in the first place the defender wouldn't have needed to make a mistake. I am a great believer in playing the percentage game. Small, what appear to be insignificant things adding up to make an overall significant difference. Having said that, Hanson winning the header before their defender was very significant in yesterdays case because it led to a mistake by another Aldershot player which then lead to Nahki scoring. We didn't win anything at all like that against Chesterfield.
[quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: After watching the goals on FLS it showed that Hanson has no input in Wells first goal so I apologise to you Waynus1971 for taking al&co account of the first goal, as I said at the time he was at the game but he got the assist the wrong way round which he has also apologised for.[/p][/quote]Hanson flicked on for Wells to run half the field score.[/p][/quote]May be so but their defender made a right taws of defending ?.[/p][/quote]He did indeed, but if Hanson hadn't won the header in the first place the defender wouldn't have needed to make a mistake. I am a great believer in playing the percentage game. Small, what appear to be insignificant things adding up to make an overall significant difference. Having said that, Hanson winning the header before their defender was very significant in yesterdays case because it led to a mistake by another Aldershot player which then lead to Nahki scoring. We didn't win anything at all like that against Chesterfield. lonniejockstrap
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12:09pm Sun 11 Nov 12

nowt fresh says...

tyker2 wrote:
celebrate a 4 th place : celebrate a good performancce against a team struggling but improvong slowly. Relatives who went said we were never iat real risk and played better football all over the park with good performances from all and in particular Meredith who they thought was a class act
Very true tyker2 but with the rubbish we have endured for the past 9/10 seasons maybe were just wondering when we will wake up and realise were only dreaming !,long may it continue it great to know who ever we play they will be in for a tough 90 minutes.
[quote][p][bold]tyker2[/bold] wrote: celebrate a 4 th place : celebrate a good performancce against a team struggling but improvong slowly. Relatives who went said we were never iat real risk and played better football all over the park with good performances from all and in particular Meredith who they thought was a class act[/p][/quote]Very true tyker2 but with the rubbish we have endured for the past 9/10 seasons maybe were just wondering when we will wake up and realise were only dreaming !,long may it continue it great to know who ever we play they will be in for a tough 90 minutes. nowt fresh
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12:10pm Sun 11 Nov 12

spleen ventor says...

Hehe...you have to laugh...all this bickering and we're fourth in the league! I'm glad we're not having another poor season.
For the record I was there and the value of Hanson to the team is blindingly obvious, he may be having a lean time personally in front of goal, but his contribution is immense. He occupies defenders, roughs them up, forces them into rash decisions...he may not have been directly involved in the first goal bit it was the kind of mistake you get from a defender when they're under pressure from forwards..what was missing against Chesterfield. So for me, Hanons's name will always be the first on the team sheet when fit.
Hehe...you have to laugh...all this bickering and we're fourth in the league! I'm glad we're not having another poor season. For the record I was there and the value of Hanson to the team is blindingly obvious, he may be having a lean time personally in front of goal, but his contribution is immense. He occupies defenders, roughs them up, forces them into rash decisions...he may not have been directly involved in the first goal bit it was the kind of mistake you get from a defender when they're under pressure from forwards..what was missing against Chesterfield. So for me, Hanons's name will always be the first on the team sheet when fit. spleen ventor
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12:19pm Sun 11 Nov 12

nowt fresh says...

lonniejockstrap wrote:
nowt fresh wrote:
lonniejockstrap wrote:
nowt fresh wrote: After watching the goals on FLS it showed that Hanson has no input in Wells first goal so I apologise to you Waynus1971 for taking al&co account of the first goal, as I said at the time he was at the game but he got the assist the wrong way round which he has also apologised for.
Hanson flicked on for Wells to run half the field score.
May be so but their defender made a right taws of defending ?.
He did indeed, but if Hanson hadn't won the header in the first place the defender wouldn't have needed to make a mistake. I am a great believer in playing the percentage game. Small, what appear to be insignificant things adding up to make an overall significant difference. Having said that, Hanson winning the header before their defender was very significant in yesterdays case because it led to a mistake by another Aldershot player which then lead to Nahki scoring. We didn't win anything at all like that against Chesterfield.
Can only endorse what both you and spleen ventor are saying and totaly agree with your view of playing percentage game, and also how we missed the big fella on Tuesday night as I posted above the Chesterfield central defenders coasted through that game some thing they would not have done with Hanson playing as you say lonnie his presence alone means they can't leave him unmaked.
[quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: After watching the goals on FLS it showed that Hanson has no input in Wells first goal so I apologise to you Waynus1971 for taking al&co account of the first goal, as I said at the time he was at the game but he got the assist the wrong way round which he has also apologised for.[/p][/quote]Hanson flicked on for Wells to run half the field score.[/p][/quote]May be so but their defender made a right taws of defending ?.[/p][/quote]He did indeed, but if Hanson hadn't won the header in the first place the defender wouldn't have needed to make a mistake. I am a great believer in playing the percentage game. Small, what appear to be insignificant things adding up to make an overall significant difference. Having said that, Hanson winning the header before their defender was very significant in yesterdays case because it led to a mistake by another Aldershot player which then lead to Nahki scoring. We didn't win anything at all like that against Chesterfield.[/p][/quote]Can only endorse what both you and spleen ventor are saying and totaly agree with your view of playing percentage game, and also how we missed the big fella on Tuesday night as I posted above the Chesterfield central defenders coasted through that game some thing they would not have done with Hanson playing as you say lonnie his presence alone means they can't leave him unmaked. nowt fresh
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1:34pm Sun 11 Nov 12

northyorksbantam says...

nowt fresh wrote:
northyorksbantam wrote:
nowt fresh wrote:
Willie Eckerslyke wrote: The heading says Aldershot v Bantams but it looks like it's turned in to a love-in for Jimmy Hanson? Great play has been made of the way he puts himself about, wins his headers and is always considered a handful by opposing managers. At 6ft-4 he is entitled to, of course, but are none of you concerned that we only have one player who seems capable of scoring goals? Other than Nahki's excellent haul Hanson has 4 (lge) goals, Connell has 3 and except for Davies no other player has scored more than once. If the goals were being shared around it wouldn't be a concern that the centre forward wasn't scoring himself but this is not the case. Heaven forbid anything should happen to Nahki but it is difficult to see a sustained promotion challenge if he should be out for any length of time. A quick check of Hanson's scoring record away from VP makes rather grim reading. 4 (lge) goals in 2010/11; 1 goal in 2011/12 and none this season. Indeed he hasn't scored an away goal since 1 Oct 2011. At what he does we don't currently have anyone better at the club so it would be difficult to leave him out but I, for one, would like to see some of the Arsenal money invested in a big lad who can also score goals at this level. PP has already proved he has an eye for a player and our continuing promotion push may depend upon him finding Hanson's replacement.
1 Tom Pope Port Vale 16 2 Jamie Cureton Exeter 12 3 Nahki Wells Bradford 10 3 Rene Howe Torquay 10 5 Adebayo Akinfenwa Northamptn 9 5 Danny Kedwell Gillingham 9 5 Tom Craddock Oxford Utd 9 8 Britt Assombalonga Southend 8 9 Bobby Grant Rochdale 7 9 Alex Nicholls Northamptn 7 9 Padraig Amond Accrington 7 9 Byron Harrison AFC W'don 7 13 Calvin Zola Burton Alb 6 13 Craig Reid Aldershot 6 13 Ashley Chambers York City 6 13 Dwight Gayle Dag + Red 6 13 Luke Howell Dag + Red 6 18 Tom Eaves Bristol R 5 18 Daniel Nardiello Rotherham 5 18 Romuald Boco Accrington 5 No other team above12th position in division 2 have there two leading scorers in the top 18 so why the criticism of Hanson or Connell doing no less than any other striking partnership in division 2. states taken from http://m.skysports.c om/leadingscorer/foo tball/166.
Useful post which highlights Hansons lack of goals. He is is not in the top 18 goal scorers in league 2 currently. As a centre forward he will probably be quite disappointed with this. Just because Wells is right up there and other clubs haven't got 2 in there doesn't mean to say James shouldn't be, if he can weigh in with a few more that could be the differnce between auto spots or the play-offs. In fact he currently sits joint 29th with 17 other players in the scoring charts. One goal less and it would be joint 46th, I would struggle to think of a CF that could be satisfied with this. Although he can be happy with other aspects of his game which is well highlighted, and which is more than keeping him in the team on merit, goal scoring seems to be a problem at the moment and its not all down to bad crosses etc,his finishing has been poor for some time, hopefully when he gets one in, in any which way he can, it will start happening for him again...
northyorksbantam my post was in responce to Willie Eckerslyke comment about only having one player who seems to be able to score ! just pointing out non of the teams in auto/play off positions have two in the top 18 goalscorers in our division,can't argue that James has not scored more I'm sure he's doing all he can to rectify that but it still does not alter the fact that promotion chasing teams don't have two strikers who share the goals at this time in the season as the above stats show ?.
I know what your response was for...mine was a bit tongue in cheek but I thought it highlighted quite well as to where JH is currently in the scoring charts at the moment.. ie joint 29th place. I think he will be disappointed with this aspect of his game whatever else he might be bringing to the team, as all CF's are selfish enough to want to see there name in the list of top goal scorers. Nahki will be buzzing seeing his name up there and will be wanting more because of it. I would say with the chances that have come his way JH could be sitting in 5th place right now on 8 goals rather than joint 29th even if he had taken but a small amount of them, and we would be challenging top stop.

I hear what your saying about other teams not having 2 scorers in there but dont really get the relevance. Are we not striving for promotion and to to be better than other teams? As an example Tranmere are top of league 1 with not 2 but 3 scorers in the top 6? I'm not taking a pop at JH but I just think as a CF this is clearly an area he can get better.
[quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]northyorksbantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Willie Eckerslyke[/bold] wrote: The heading says Aldershot v Bantams but it looks like it's turned in to a love-in for Jimmy Hanson? Great play has been made of the way he puts himself about, wins his headers and is always considered a handful by opposing managers. At 6ft-4 he is entitled to, of course, but are none of you concerned that we only have one player who seems capable of scoring goals? Other than Nahki's excellent haul Hanson has 4 (lge) goals, Connell has 3 and except for Davies no other player has scored more than once. If the goals were being shared around it wouldn't be a concern that the centre forward wasn't scoring himself but this is not the case. Heaven forbid anything should happen to Nahki but it is difficult to see a sustained promotion challenge if he should be out for any length of time. A quick check of Hanson's scoring record away from VP makes rather grim reading. 4 (lge) goals in 2010/11; 1 goal in 2011/12 and none this season. Indeed he hasn't scored an away goal since 1 Oct 2011. At what he does we don't currently have anyone better at the club so it would be difficult to leave him out but I, for one, would like to see some of the Arsenal money invested in a big lad who can also score goals at this level. PP has already proved he has an eye for a player and our continuing promotion push may depend upon him finding Hanson's replacement.[/p][/quote]1 Tom Pope Port Vale 16 2 Jamie Cureton Exeter 12 3 Nahki Wells Bradford 10 3 Rene Howe Torquay 10 5 Adebayo Akinfenwa Northamptn 9 5 Danny Kedwell Gillingham 9 5 Tom Craddock Oxford Utd 9 8 Britt Assombalonga Southend 8 9 Bobby Grant Rochdale 7 9 Alex Nicholls Northamptn 7 9 Padraig Amond Accrington 7 9 Byron Harrison AFC W'don 7 13 Calvin Zola Burton Alb 6 13 Craig Reid Aldershot 6 13 Ashley Chambers York City 6 13 Dwight Gayle Dag + Red 6 13 Luke Howell Dag + Red 6 18 Tom Eaves Bristol R 5 18 Daniel Nardiello Rotherham 5 18 Romuald Boco Accrington 5 No other team above12th position in division 2 have there two leading scorers in the top 18 so why the criticism of Hanson or Connell doing no less than any other striking partnership in division 2. states taken from http://m.skysports.c om/leadingscorer/foo tball/166.[/p][/quote]Useful post which highlights Hansons lack of goals. He is is not in the top 18 goal scorers in league 2 currently. As a centre forward he will probably be quite disappointed with this. Just because Wells is right up there and other clubs haven't got 2 in there doesn't mean to say James shouldn't be, if he can weigh in with a few more that could be the differnce between auto spots or the play-offs. In fact he currently sits joint 29th with 17 other players in the scoring charts. One goal less and it would be joint 46th, I would struggle to think of a CF that could be satisfied with this. Although he can be happy with other aspects of his game which is well highlighted, and which is more than keeping him in the team on merit, goal scoring seems to be a problem at the moment and its not all down to bad crosses etc,his finishing has been poor for some time, hopefully when he gets one in, in any which way he can, it will start happening for him again...[/p][/quote]northyorksbantam my post was in responce to Willie Eckerslyke comment about only having one player who seems to be able to score ! just pointing out non of the teams in auto/play off positions have two in the top 18 goalscorers in our division,can't argue that James has not scored more I'm sure he's doing all he can to rectify that but it still does not alter the fact that promotion chasing teams don't have two strikers who share the goals at this time in the season as the above stats show ?.[/p][/quote]I know what your response was for...mine was a bit tongue in cheek but I thought it highlighted quite well as to where JH is currently in the scoring charts at the moment.. ie joint 29th place. I think he will be disappointed with this aspect of his game whatever else he might be bringing to the team, as all CF's are selfish enough to want to see there name in the list of top goal scorers. Nahki will be buzzing seeing his name up there and will be wanting more because of it. I would say with the chances that have come his way JH could be sitting in 5th place right now on 8 goals rather than joint 29th even if he had taken but a small amount of them, and we would be challenging top stop. I hear what your saying about other teams not having 2 scorers in there but dont really get the relevance. Are we not striving for promotion and to to be better than other teams? As an example Tranmere are top of league 1 with not 2 but 3 scorers in the top 6? I'm not taking a pop at JH but I just think as a CF this is clearly an area he can get better. northyorksbantam
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2:37pm Sun 11 Nov 12

nowt fresh says...

"I hear what your saying about other teams not having 2 scorers in there but don't really get the relevance" Willie Eckerslyke's comment "If the goals were being shared around it wouldn't be a concern" hence I'm pointing out that no other team striving for promotion are sharing the goal scoring IE all the teams from 12th upwards are relying on one player scoring re the stats,

Tom Pope Port Vale 16
Jamie Cureton Exeter 12
Nahki Wells Bradford 10
Rene Howe Torquay 10
Danny Kedwell Gillingham 9
Britt Assombalonga Southend 8
Bobby Grant Rochdale 7
Calvin Zola Burton Alb 6
none of the above teams have their second "top goalscorer" in the top 18 if you can't see what I saying in reply to Willie Eckerslykes post I'll leave it there.
"I hear what your saying about other teams not having 2 scorers in there but don't really get the relevance" Willie Eckerslyke's comment "If the goals were being shared around it wouldn't be a concern" hence I'm pointing out that no other team striving for promotion are sharing the goal scoring IE all the teams from 12th upwards are relying on one player scoring re the stats, Tom Pope Port Vale 16 Jamie Cureton Exeter 12 Nahki Wells Bradford 10 Rene Howe Torquay 10 Danny Kedwell Gillingham 9 Britt Assombalonga Southend 8 Bobby Grant Rochdale 7 Calvin Zola Burton Alb 6 none of the above teams have their second "top goalscorer" in the top 18 if you can't see what I saying in reply to Willie Eckerslykes post I'll leave it there. nowt fresh
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3:21pm Sun 11 Nov 12

northyorksbantam says...

You say "no other team striving for promotion are sharing the goalscoring" OK lets look at the top 2

Gills have
Kedwell 11
Burton 6
Weston 5

Port Vale have
Pope 17
Vincent 6
Myrie Williams 5
Dodds 4
Williamson 4

Bradford have

Wells 12
Hanson 4

Those stats would suggest Gills and Vale are sharing the goal scoring to me, or certainly more than what we are, we have a gaping hole between Wells and Hanson and very little below that, including a very disappointing contribution from midfield, and probably the point Willie may have been making.
You say "no other team striving for promotion are sharing the goalscoring" OK lets look at the top 2 Gills have Kedwell 11 Burton 6 Weston 5 Port Vale have Pope 17 Vincent 6 Myrie Williams 5 Dodds 4 Williamson 4 Bradford have Wells 12 Hanson 4 Those stats would suggest Gills and Vale are sharing the goal scoring to me, or certainly more than what we are, we have a gaping hole between Wells and Hanson and very little below that, including a very disappointing contribution from midfield, and probably the point Willie may have been making. northyorksbantam
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3:51pm Sun 11 Nov 12

nowt fresh says...

northyorksbantam wrote:
You say "no other team striving for promotion are sharing the goalscoring" OK lets look at the top 2 Gills have Kedwell 11 Burton 6 Weston 5 Port Vale have Pope 17 Vincent 6 Myrie Williams 5 Dodds 4 Williamson 4 Bradford have Wells 12 Hanson 4 Those stats would suggest Gills and Vale are sharing the goal scoring to me, or certainly more than what we are, we have a gaping hole between Wells and Hanson and very little below that, including a very disappointing contribution from midfield, and probably the point Willie may have been making.
If you say so, we can't be doing too bad as there are only 3 teams who have a better scoring record than us and Dag & Red only went above us because they scored 5 yesterday ? don't understand why there is a problem with who scores as long as we are scoring and picking up points,and if that means Wells beats David (Bronco) Laynes 34 goals in a season and Hanson finish's second or third topscorer on 10 I'll be delighted asI would imagine all City fans would.
[quote][p][bold]northyorksbantam[/bold] wrote: You say "no other team striving for promotion are sharing the goalscoring" OK lets look at the top 2 Gills have Kedwell 11 Burton 6 Weston 5 Port Vale have Pope 17 Vincent 6 Myrie Williams 5 Dodds 4 Williamson 4 Bradford have Wells 12 Hanson 4 Those stats would suggest Gills and Vale are sharing the goal scoring to me, or certainly more than what we are, we have a gaping hole between Wells and Hanson and very little below that, including a very disappointing contribution from midfield, and probably the point Willie may have been making.[/p][/quote]If you say so, we can't be doing too bad as there are only 3 teams who have a better scoring record than us and Dag & Red only went above us because they scored 5 yesterday ? don't understand why there is a problem with who scores as long as we are scoring and picking up points,and if that means Wells beats David (Bronco) Laynes 34 goals in a season and Hanson finish's second or third topscorer on 10 I'll be delighted asI would imagine all City fans would. nowt fresh
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3:59pm Sun 11 Nov 12

lonniejockstrap says...

northyorksbantam wrote:
You say "no other team striving for promotion are sharing the goalscoring" OK lets look at the top 2

Gills have
Kedwell 11
Burton 6
Weston 5

Port Vale have
Pope 17
Vincent 6
Myrie Williams 5
Dodds 4
Williamson 4

Bradford have

Wells 12
Hanson 4

Those stats would suggest Gills and Vale are sharing the goal scoring to me, or certainly more than what we are, we have a gaping hole between Wells and Hanson and very little below that, including a very disappointing contribution from midfield, and probably the point Willie may have been making.
Still not sure why the goals have to be shared or why we need a 20 plus scorer or whatever as long as the team is winning. Cheltenham have Harrad
5,
Mohamed
4 and
Zebroski 4 they are in 3rd spot with worse goal difference than us but 4 points better off.

Oxford's leading goal scorer's are
Craddock
10
Potter
5
Constable
3
This is 'better' than our top 3 but they are 8 points and 14 goals worse off than us. So what does any of this comparing prove or matter?

We are doing well and Hanson is playing his part in helping the team score goals and win games.
[quote][p][bold]northyorksbantam[/bold] wrote: You say "no other team striving for promotion are sharing the goalscoring" OK lets look at the top 2 Gills have Kedwell 11 Burton 6 Weston 5 Port Vale have Pope 17 Vincent 6 Myrie Williams 5 Dodds 4 Williamson 4 Bradford have Wells 12 Hanson 4 Those stats would suggest Gills and Vale are sharing the goal scoring to me, or certainly more than what we are, we have a gaping hole between Wells and Hanson and very little below that, including a very disappointing contribution from midfield, and probably the point Willie may have been making.[/p][/quote]Still not sure why the goals have to be shared or why we need a 20 plus scorer or whatever as long as the team is winning. Cheltenham have Harrad 5, Mohamed 4 and Zebroski 4 they are in 3rd spot with worse goal difference than us but 4 points better off. Oxford's leading goal scorer's are Craddock 10 Potter 5 Constable 3 This is 'better' than our top 3 but they are 8 points and 14 goals worse off than us. So what does any of this comparing prove or matter? We are doing well and Hanson is playing his part in helping the team score goals and win games. lonniejockstrap
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4:40pm Sun 11 Nov 12

northyorksbantam says...

lonniejockstrap wrote:
northyorksbantam wrote: You say "no other team striving for promotion are sharing the goalscoring" OK lets look at the top 2 Gills have Kedwell 11 Burton 6 Weston 5 Port Vale have Pope 17 Vincent 6 Myrie Williams 5 Dodds 4 Williamson 4 Bradford have Wells 12 Hanson 4 Those stats would suggest Gills and Vale are sharing the goal scoring to me, or certainly more than what we are, we have a gaping hole between Wells and Hanson and very little below that, including a very disappointing contribution from midfield, and probably the point Willie may have been making.
Still not sure why the goals have to be shared or why we need a 20 plus scorer or whatever as long as the team is winning. Cheltenham have Harrad 5, Mohamed 4 and Zebroski 4 they are in 3rd spot with worse goal difference than us but 4 points better off. Oxford's leading goal scorer's are Craddock 10 Potter 5 Constable 3 This is 'better' than our top 3 but they are 8 points and 14 goals worse off than us. So what does any of this comparing prove or matter? We are doing well and Hanson is playing his part in helping the team score goals and win games.
I think this came from the point that Willie made that if Wells gets injured we may struggle for goals as he is getting the majority of them, he may have a point.

The stats above don't necessarily say alot other than teams such as Vale may be better equipped in the event of say Pope getting injured as they appear to have other players capable of scoring from other areas of the pitch, as they have 5 players on 4+ goals,we have 2, hence it would be great if Hanson could get himself in the goals more often, and also a better contribution from midfield in the event of Nahki getting injured. I'm hopeful when Kyel Reid comes back especially that JH may start getting on the scoresheet more regular again.

As it is at the moment its not a problem as Nahki is fit and scoring and JH is a great foil for him, the defence is very solid and the midfield are hard grafters, so we are a great unit.
[quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]northyorksbantam[/bold] wrote: You say "no other team striving for promotion are sharing the goalscoring" OK lets look at the top 2 Gills have Kedwell 11 Burton 6 Weston 5 Port Vale have Pope 17 Vincent 6 Myrie Williams 5 Dodds 4 Williamson 4 Bradford have Wells 12 Hanson 4 Those stats would suggest Gills and Vale are sharing the goal scoring to me, or certainly more than what we are, we have a gaping hole between Wells and Hanson and very little below that, including a very disappointing contribution from midfield, and probably the point Willie may have been making.[/p][/quote]Still not sure why the goals have to be shared or why we need a 20 plus scorer or whatever as long as the team is winning. Cheltenham have Harrad 5, Mohamed 4 and Zebroski 4 they are in 3rd spot with worse goal difference than us but 4 points better off. Oxford's leading goal scorer's are Craddock 10 Potter 5 Constable 3 This is 'better' than our top 3 but they are 8 points and 14 goals worse off than us. So what does any of this comparing prove or matter? We are doing well and Hanson is playing his part in helping the team score goals and win games.[/p][/quote]I think this came from the point that Willie made that if Wells gets injured we may struggle for goals as he is getting the majority of them, he may have a point. The stats above don't necessarily say alot other than teams such as Vale may be better equipped in the event of say Pope getting injured as they appear to have other players capable of scoring from other areas of the pitch, as they have 5 players on 4+ goals,we have 2, hence it would be great if Hanson could get himself in the goals more often, and also a better contribution from midfield in the event of Nahki getting injured. I'm hopeful when Kyel Reid comes back especially that JH may start getting on the scoresheet more regular again. As it is at the moment its not a problem as Nahki is fit and scoring and JH is a great foil for him, the defence is very solid and the midfield are hard grafters, so we are a great unit. northyorksbantam
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7:29pm Sun 11 Nov 12

Whoisevans? says...

Piece of genius from Parky tell everyone Hanson is still not right then play him. I wonder if it could work again. All those people who knock Hanson should now know that without him we miss a hard working Center forward. Better still were back on target for 40 plus points by Christmas and then push on for the second half of the season. Notice the top sides now starting to struggle.
Piece of genius from Parky tell everyone Hanson is still not right then play him. I wonder if it could work again. All those people who knock Hanson should now know that without him we miss a hard working Center forward. Better still were back on target for 40 plus points by Christmas and then push on for the second half of the season. Notice the top sides now starting to struggle. Whoisevans?
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7:44pm Sun 11 Nov 12

Whoisevans? says...

I cannot understand why Hanson get so much stick on here by so called fans. It takes a lot out of a players legs when they have to run to every ball that is put in the air. I would doubt that any that are critical of Hanson have ever played as a center forward it is a difficult thankless job they do a lot of donkey work up front that takes the strain off other players legs. I would defy anyone to go through the work load Hanson does and still have enough energy to shoot maybe that is why he doesn't like taking penalties?
I cannot understand why Hanson get so much stick on here by so called fans. It takes a lot out of a players legs when they have to run to every ball that is put in the air. I would doubt that any that are critical of Hanson have ever played as a center forward it is a difficult thankless job they do a lot of donkey work up front that takes the strain off other players legs. I would defy anyone to go through the work load Hanson does and still have enough energy to shoot maybe that is why he doesn't like taking penalties? Whoisevans?
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10:27pm Sun 11 Nov 12

tyker2 says...

Whoisevans? wrote:
I cannot understand why Hanson get so much stick on here by so called fans. It takes a lot out of a players legs when they have to run to every ball that is put in the air. I would doubt that any that are critical of Hanson have ever played as a center forward it is a difficult thankless job they do a lot of donkey work up front that takes the strain off other players legs. I would defy anyone to go through the work load Hanson does and still have enough energy to shoot maybe that is why he doesn't like taking penalties?
well said. His work rate is more than adequate. Get moe regular and better service into him and results will ,in terms of goals, will get better
[quote][p][bold]Whoisevans?[/bold] wrote: I cannot understand why Hanson get so much stick on here by so called fans. It takes a lot out of a players legs when they have to run to every ball that is put in the air. I would doubt that any that are critical of Hanson have ever played as a center forward it is a difficult thankless job they do a lot of donkey work up front that takes the strain off other players legs. I would defy anyone to go through the work load Hanson does and still have enough energy to shoot maybe that is why he doesn't like taking penalties?[/p][/quote]well said. His work rate is more than adequate. Get moe regular and better service into him and results will ,in terms of goals, will get better tyker2
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11:38pm Sun 11 Nov 12

Waynus1971 says...

nowt fresh wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
nowt fresh wrote: Sorry fella just quoting what he saw as he was at "the game" ?? re the Hanson drinking issue just pointing out to Victor Clayton that you have been on this lads case for as you put it "hundred years ago" it's not 100 years ago Waynus1971 just seems like it with your constant **** re Hanson.
I know you were just quoting him, but he simply made a mistake with the order of the goals. That's all. In relation to the drinking, I knew somebody would post about it. It was OVER 2 yrs ago, yet the likes of you constantly bring it up. I don't (unless I have to defend myself again). And finally, I'm not constantly criticising Hanson. I have made it clear on numerous occasions that I value the player. I often praise his hard work and the 'ugly' stuff he does off the ball. However, just as I do with ANY player, if there are aspects of their game that I believe needs work on, I point it out. It is you lot that make it into a battle. Everyone is raving about Jones, but (just to prove my point), I think he could do better in an attacking sense. He is a fantastic midfielder, but doesn't have the same finish as, say a, Syers, for example.
Brought up in reply to Victor Clayton as I posted you had an issue then and although you say you criticise all players it just happends to be James Hanson who seems to be your focal point,re Jones agree he is a fantastic midfielder but apart from the goals he gets from his free kicks I don't think PP see's him as a replacement for Syers, Syers could recieve the ball in his own half (when an opposition attack broke down) and run box to box and score, Jones is not that type of player, I may be wrong but I don't believe his scoring record has been great any where he has played.
I didn't say Jones was brought in to replace Syers. What I said was that he doesn't get in positions where he can have a chance of scoring.

You say PP doesn't see him as that type of player, but the other week when we played the 'diamond' he was the one chosen to be at the tip. It wasn't Ritchie Jones or Will Atkinson, it was Gary Jones...!
[quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: Sorry fella just quoting what he saw as he was at "the game" ?? re the Hanson drinking issue just pointing out to Victor Clayton that you have been on this lads case for as you put it "hundred years ago" it's not 100 years ago Waynus1971 just seems like it with your constant **** re Hanson.[/p][/quote]I know you were just quoting him, but he simply made a mistake with the order of the goals. That's all. In relation to the drinking, I knew somebody would post about it. It was OVER 2 yrs ago, yet the likes of you constantly bring it up. I don't (unless I have to defend myself again). And finally, I'm not constantly criticising Hanson. I have made it clear on numerous occasions that I value the player. I often praise his hard work and the 'ugly' stuff he does off the ball. However, just as I do with ANY player, if there are aspects of their game that I believe needs work on, I point it out. It is you lot that make it into a battle. Everyone is raving about Jones, but (just to prove my point), I think he could do better in an attacking sense. He is a fantastic midfielder, but doesn't have the same finish as, say a, Syers, for example.[/p][/quote]Brought up in reply to Victor Clayton as I posted you had an issue then and although you say you criticise all players it just happends to be James Hanson who seems to be your focal point,re Jones agree he is a fantastic midfielder but apart from the goals he gets from his free kicks I don't think PP see's him as a replacement for Syers, Syers could recieve the ball in his own half (when an opposition attack broke down) and run box to box and score, Jones is not that type of player, I may be wrong but I don't believe his scoring record has been great any where he has played.[/p][/quote]I didn't say Jones was brought in to replace Syers. What I said was that he doesn't get in positions where he can have a chance of scoring. You say PP doesn't see him as that type of player, but the other week when we played the 'diamond' he was the one chosen to be at the tip. It wasn't Ritchie Jones or Will Atkinson, it was Gary Jones...! Waynus1971
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11:46pm Sun 11 Nov 12

Waynus1971 says...

nowt fresh wrote:
Onebrianmitchell wrote:
Devils advocate posting. How many City wins have come from brilliant, nerve shredding penalty shoot outs in the cup in the last 2 years? We are the penalty kings. How often does Hanson take one?
Yes Onebrianmitchell playing Devils advocate :Duke scored a penalty in the shoot outs let's give him the No 9 shirt ??.
Nah, we can't have Duke in the no9 shirt; he isn't good enough in the air, LOL
[quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Onebrianmitchell[/bold] wrote: Devils advocate posting. How many City wins have come from brilliant, nerve shredding penalty shoot outs in the cup in the last 2 years? We are the penalty kings. How often does Hanson take one?[/p][/quote]Yes Onebrianmitchell playing Devils advocate :Duke scored a penalty in the shoot outs let's give him the No 9 shirt ??.[/p][/quote]Nah, we can't have Duke in the no9 shirt; he isn't good enough in the air, LOL Waynus1971
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12:15am Mon 12 Nov 12

Waynus1971 says...

al&co wrote:
Please accept my apologies everybody!

I did say in my earlier post that Hanson played a big part in our first goal and that was wrong - my mistake - it was the second goal as has been correctly pointed out.

I do try and post accurately and consructively but I had a senior moment - easily done at my age.

I consider myself suiable chastised and will try and do better in future!
Don't worry about it fella. I'm sure nobody was criticising you for getting the order wrong. Even though I was being lectured by one poster due to your mistake, I certainly don't hold it against you. We all make mistakes and I'm sure we all will again soon.
[quote][p][bold]al&co[/bold] wrote: Please accept my apologies everybody! I did say in my earlier post that Hanson played a big part in our first goal and that was wrong - my mistake - it was the second goal as has been correctly pointed out. I do try and post accurately and consructively but I had a senior moment - easily done at my age. I consider myself suiable chastised and will try and do better in future![/p][/quote]Don't worry about it fella. I'm sure nobody was criticising you for getting the order wrong. Even though I was being lectured by one poster due to your mistake, I certainly don't hold it against you. We all make mistakes and I'm sure we all will again soon. Waynus1971
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12:29am Mon 12 Nov 12

Waynus1971 says...

nowt fresh wrote:
After watching the goals on FLS it showed that Hanson has no input in Wells first goal so I apologise to you Waynus1971 for taking al&co account of the first goal, as I said at the time he was at the game but he got the assist the wrong way round which he has also apologised for.
I don't believe I did 'take him to account'. If u mean I corrected him to make my point to you, then fair enough.

That said, according to Lonnie, Hanson should be claiming an assist for both goals. Hanson won the flick on for the first and their defender made a big mistake on the half way line, allowing Wells to run through and score. When Hanson headed that ball, he was 10-15yds inside his own half, yet Lonnie is seriously crediting him with the assist?

On an aside, when watching the footage of our 2nd goal, were we (Hanson) very fortunate? Forsyth wins the header, Hanson and their defender both jump to challenge. Hanson (for once) can't get his head to it and it hits their defender on the shoulder. Luckily for us, it falls to Hanson who gets a shot in on goal, the keeper parries and Wells scores from the rebound. Hanson clearly jumped to win that header, had he connected, where would it have gone, because there were no City players waiting for the flick-on?
[quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: After watching the goals on FLS it showed that Hanson has no input in Wells first goal so I apologise to you Waynus1971 for taking al&co account of the first goal, as I said at the time he was at the game but he got the assist the wrong way round which he has also apologised for.[/p][/quote]I don't believe I did 'take him to account'. If u mean I corrected him to make my point to you, then fair enough. That said, according to Lonnie, Hanson should be claiming an assist for both goals. Hanson won the flick on for the first and their defender made a big mistake on the half way line, allowing Wells to run through and score. When Hanson headed that ball, he was 10-15yds inside his own half, yet Lonnie is seriously crediting him with the assist? On an aside, when watching the footage of our 2nd goal, were we (Hanson) very fortunate? Forsyth wins the header, Hanson and their defender both jump to challenge. Hanson (for once) can't get his head to it and it hits their defender on the shoulder. Luckily for us, it falls to Hanson who gets a shot in on goal, the keeper parries and Wells scores from the rebound. Hanson clearly jumped to win that header, had he connected, where would it have gone, because there were no City players waiting for the flick-on? Waynus1971
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1:20am Mon 12 Nov 12

Waynus1971 says...

Whoisevans? wrote:
I cannot understand why Hanson get so much stick on here by so called fans. It takes a lot out of a players legs when they have to run to every ball that is put in the air. I would doubt that any that are critical of Hanson have ever played as a center forward it is a difficult thankless job they do a lot of donkey work up front that takes the strain off other players legs. I would defy anyone to go through the work load Hanson does and still have enough energy to shoot maybe that is why he doesn't like taking penalties?
Why are people trying to claim this is all about Hanson knocking. All has been said is that Hanson should be converting more chances than he has so far this season.

The lad himself would acknowledge this and Andrew Davies has already said something similar. Nobody is knocking what he does bring to the team and let's be fair, he is very good at what he does. However, despite claims by some on here that he isn't here to score goals, he has in the past and needs to again.

One final point. Northampton are struggling but their target man constantly puts his body where it hurts. He may not be quite as effective and mobile as Hanson, but he is their target man all the same. How many times has he scored? His hattrick this weekend was very good and his diving header was top notch.

All we want is for Hanson to get on the end more and start taking some of his chances. THIS IS NOT THE SAME AS HANSON KNOCKING...'
[quote][p][bold]Whoisevans?[/bold] wrote: I cannot understand why Hanson get so much stick on here by so called fans. It takes a lot out of a players legs when they have to run to every ball that is put in the air. I would doubt that any that are critical of Hanson have ever played as a center forward it is a difficult thankless job they do a lot of donkey work up front that takes the strain off other players legs. I would defy anyone to go through the work load Hanson does and still have enough energy to shoot maybe that is why he doesn't like taking penalties?[/p][/quote]Why are people trying to claim this is all about Hanson knocking. All has been said is that Hanson should be converting more chances than he has so far this season. The lad himself would acknowledge this and Andrew Davies has already said something similar. Nobody is knocking what he does bring to the team and let's be fair, he is very good at what he does. However, despite claims by some on here that he isn't here to score goals, he has in the past and needs to again. One final point. Northampton are struggling but their target man constantly puts his body where it hurts. He may not be quite as effective and mobile as Hanson, but he is their target man all the same. How many times has he scored? His hattrick this weekend was very good and his diving header was top notch. All we want is for Hanson to get on the end more and start taking some of his chances. THIS IS NOT THE SAME AS HANSON KNOCKING...' Waynus1971
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10:20am Mon 12 Nov 12

nowt fresh says...

Waynus1971 wrote:
nowt fresh wrote: After watching the goals on FLS it showed that Hanson has no input in Wells first goal so I apologise to you Waynus1971 for taking al&co account of the first goal, as I said at the time he was at the game but he got the assist the wrong way round which he has also apologised for.
I don't believe I did 'take him to account'. If u mean I corrected him to make my point to you, then fair enough. That said, according to Lonnie, Hanson should be claiming an assist for both goals. Hanson won the flick on for the first and their defender made a big mistake on the half way line, allowing Wells to run through and score. When Hanson headed that ball, he was 10-15yds inside his own half, yet Lonnie is seriously crediting him with the assist? On an aside, when watching the footage of our 2nd goal, were we (Hanson) very fortunate? Forsyth wins the header, Hanson and their defender both jump to challenge. Hanson (for once) can't get his head to it and it hits their defender on the shoulder. Luckily for us, it falls to Hanson who gets a shot in on goal, the keeper parries and Wells scores from the rebound. Hanson clearly jumped to win that header, had he connected, where would it have gone, because there were no City players waiting for the flick-on?
You realy are unbelievable Waynus1971 I offer my apologise's and you still have a pop how Hanson did not assist !!! for Christ sake did I agree with lonnie get a life man.
[quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: After watching the goals on FLS it showed that Hanson has no input in Wells first goal so I apologise to you Waynus1971 for taking al&co account of the first goal, as I said at the time he was at the game but he got the assist the wrong way round which he has also apologised for.[/p][/quote]I don't believe I did 'take him to account'. If u mean I corrected him to make my point to you, then fair enough. That said, according to Lonnie, Hanson should be claiming an assist for both goals. Hanson won the flick on for the first and their defender made a big mistake on the half way line, allowing Wells to run through and score. When Hanson headed that ball, he was 10-15yds inside his own half, yet Lonnie is seriously crediting him with the assist? On an aside, when watching the footage of our 2nd goal, were we (Hanson) very fortunate? Forsyth wins the header, Hanson and their defender both jump to challenge. Hanson (for once) can't get his head to it and it hits their defender on the shoulder. Luckily for us, it falls to Hanson who gets a shot in on goal, the keeper parries and Wells scores from the rebound. Hanson clearly jumped to win that header, had he connected, where would it have gone, because there were no City players waiting for the flick-on?[/p][/quote]You realy are unbelievable Waynus1971 I offer my apologise's and you still have a pop how Hanson did not assist !!! for Christ sake did I agree with lonnie get a life man. nowt fresh
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10:39am Mon 12 Nov 12

tyker2 says...

mmmmm interesting piecestoday about the effectiveness of Hanson even when not fully fit
mmmmm interesting piecestoday about the effectiveness of Hanson even when not fully fit tyker2
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10:40am Mon 12 Nov 12

bcfc1903 says...

You make some excellent points Nowt Fresh....the goalscoring list was facinating to see, good stuff....regarding Hanson, for me he's a 15 goal a season man...but there is far more to his game than finishing, as mentioned on many occasions opposition players and opposition managers..he's a top player at this level, for me he'd be just as good in the ist division and possibly the Championship, possibly better where it isn't so in your face football, the fella deals with everything thrown at him and still consistantly gets the plaudits. Well done James Hanson and once again a big well done to all involved in the excellent win at Aldershot.

**
We shout with pride...we never hide...Claret and Amber.
You make some excellent points Nowt Fresh....the goalscoring list was facinating to see, good stuff....regarding Hanson, for me he's a 15 goal a season man...but there is far more to his game than finishing, as mentioned on many occasions opposition players and opposition managers..he's a top player at this level, for me he'd be just as good in the ist division and possibly the Championship, possibly better where it isn't so in your face football, the fella deals with everything thrown at him and still consistantly gets the plaudits. Well done James Hanson and once again a big well done to all involved in the excellent win at Aldershot. ** We shout with pride...we never hide...Claret and Amber. bcfc1903
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10:46am Mon 12 Nov 12

bcfc1903 says...

Just been past Valley Parade, a massive queue forming...wonder what that's for lol....25,000 sell out looks assured.
Just been past Valley Parade, a massive queue forming...wonder what that's for lol....25,000 sell out looks assured. bcfc1903
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11:00am Mon 12 Nov 12

nowt fresh says...

And how many windows were open did you see, hopefuly later on in the week would be a better time to pick our tickets up when the mad rush is over.
And how many windows were open did you see, hopefuly later on in the week would be a better time to pick our tickets up when the mad rush is over. nowt fresh
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11:11am Mon 12 Nov 12

bcfc1903 says...

nowt fresh wrote:
And how many windows were open did you see, hopefuly later on in the week would be a better time to pick our tickets up when the mad rush is over.
Didn't get out once i saw the queue, so can't help you on the ticket office booking windows...later in the week by the look of today would be a good idea.
[quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: And how many windows were open did you see, hopefuly later on in the week would be a better time to pick our tickets up when the mad rush is over.[/p][/quote]Didn't get out once i saw the queue, so can't help you on the ticket office booking windows...later in the week by the look of today would be a good idea. bcfc1903
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2:57pm Mon 12 Nov 12

Whoisevans? says...

tyker2 wrote:
waynus :I don't recall saying Hanson would knck it over the stand. I was talking about the high net at one end of the ground but, nevermind that, just accept he is the best centre forward we have had on the books for many a year and,at present, those brought in to challenge have fallen by the wayside. i agree he could score more goals himself but I ,for one, are more than happy with his contribution to the team effort

I know he holds you in the same regard as you hold him. So let be the end of it!
Well said Tyker2 Poor Hans has more than 2 central defenders on his back he has the heavy load of Waynus no wonder he can't score goals. I personally have no problem with Hans he works his socks off for the team. I remember a certain Bobby Campbell having a problem with having a few drinks. I bet Waynus wouldn't dare tell him he didn't score goals. I know when Hawley came in he was leading scorer in the first part of the season but Campbell caught him up. I know this for a fact as I was there. Bobby even claimed one that came off his A*** from a deflected shot from Hawley. Waynus get a life and leave Hans alone!!! I'd pay to see Hanson knock Waynus door and ask what problem he has with him or does he think he can do better.
[quote][p][bold]tyker2[/bold] wrote: waynus :I don't recall saying Hanson would knck it over the stand. I was talking about the high net at one end of the ground but, nevermind that, just accept he is the best centre forward we have had on the books for many a year and,at present, those brought in to challenge have fallen by the wayside. i agree he could score more goals himself but I ,for one, are more than happy with his contribution to the team effort I know he holds you in the same regard as you hold him. So let be the end of it![/p][/quote]Well said Tyker2 Poor Hans has more than 2 central defenders on his back he has the heavy load of Waynus no wonder he can't score goals. I personally have no problem with Hans he works his socks off for the team. I remember a certain Bobby Campbell having a problem with having a few drinks. I bet Waynus wouldn't dare tell him he didn't score goals. I know when Hawley came in he was leading scorer in the first part of the season but Campbell caught him up. I know this for a fact as I was there. Bobby even claimed one that came off his A*** from a deflected shot from Hawley. Waynus get a life and leave Hans alone!!! I'd pay to see Hanson knock Waynus door and ask what problem he has with him or does he think he can do better. Whoisevans?
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3:24pm Mon 12 Nov 12

Whoisevans? says...

Waynus1971 wrote:
Whoisevans? wrote:
I cannot understand why Hanson get so much stick on here by so called fans. It takes a lot out of a players legs when they have to run to every ball that is put in the air. I would doubt that any that are critical of Hanson have ever played as a center forward it is a difficult thankless job they do a lot of donkey work up front that takes the strain off other players legs. I would defy anyone to go through the work load Hanson does and still have enough energy to shoot maybe that is why he doesn't like taking penalties?
Why are people trying to claim this is all about Hanson knocking. All has been said is that Hanson should be converting more chances than he has so far this season.

The lad himself would acknowledge this and Andrew Davies has already said something similar. Nobody is knocking what he does bring to the team and let's be fair, he is very good at what he does. However, despite claims by some on here that he isn't here to score goals, he has in the past and needs to again.

One final point. Northampton are struggling but their target man constantly puts his body where it hurts. He may not be quite as effective and mobile as Hanson, but he is their target man all the same. How many times has he scored? His hattrick this weekend was very good and his diving header was top notch.

All we want is for Hanson to get on the end more and start taking some of his chances. THIS IS NOT THE SAME AS HANSON KNOCKING...'
Simple answer Waynus he won't get back to scoring goals while people keep putting him under even more pressure. I have already pointed out that he was mauled all the way through the game against Port Vale he is doing a great job. I don't care if he doesn't score another goal between now and the end of the season so long as we win promotion. I think he will contribute more but he does his job and more so can we have an end to this witch hunt of Hans.
[quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Whoisevans?[/bold] wrote: I cannot understand why Hanson get so much stick on here by so called fans. It takes a lot out of a players legs when they have to run to every ball that is put in the air. I would doubt that any that are critical of Hanson have ever played as a center forward it is a difficult thankless job they do a lot of donkey work up front that takes the strain off other players legs. I would defy anyone to go through the work load Hanson does and still have enough energy to shoot maybe that is why he doesn't like taking penalties?[/p][/quote]Why are people trying to claim this is all about Hanson knocking. All has been said is that Hanson should be converting more chances than he has so far this season. The lad himself would acknowledge this and Andrew Davies has already said something similar. Nobody is knocking what he does bring to the team and let's be fair, he is very good at what he does. However, despite claims by some on here that he isn't here to score goals, he has in the past and needs to again. One final point. Northampton are struggling but their target man constantly puts his body where it hurts. He may not be quite as effective and mobile as Hanson, but he is their target man all the same. How many times has he scored? His hattrick this weekend was very good and his diving header was top notch. All we want is for Hanson to get on the end more and start taking some of his chances. THIS IS NOT THE SAME AS HANSON KNOCKING...'[/p][/quote]Simple answer Waynus he won't get back to scoring goals while people keep putting him under even more pressure. I have already pointed out that he was mauled all the way through the game against Port Vale he is doing a great job. I don't care if he doesn't score another goal between now and the end of the season so long as we win promotion. I think he will contribute more but he does his job and more so can we have an end to this witch hunt of Hans. Whoisevans?
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6:49pm Mon 12 Nov 12

lonniejockstrap says...

Waynus1971 wrote:
Whoisevans? wrote:
I cannot understand why Hanson get so much stick on here by so called fans. It takes a lot out of a players legs when they have to run to every ball that is put in the air. I would doubt that any that are critical of Hanson have ever played as a center forward it is a difficult thankless job they do a lot of donkey work up front that takes the strain off other players legs. I would defy anyone to go through the work load Hanson does and still have enough energy to shoot maybe that is why he doesn't like taking penalties?
Why are people trying to claim this is all about Hanson knocking. All has been said is that Hanson should be converting more chances than he has so far this season.

The lad himself would acknowledge this and Andrew Davies has already said something similar. Nobody is knocking what he does bring to the team and let's be fair, he is very good at what he does. However, despite claims by some on here that he isn't here to score goals, he has in the past and needs to again.

One final point. Northampton are struggling but their target man constantly puts his body where it hurts. He may not be quite as effective and mobile as Hanson, but he is their target man all the same. How many times has he scored? His hattrick this weekend was very good and his diving header was top notch.

All we want is for Hanson to get on the end more and start taking some of his chances. THIS IS NOT THE SAME AS HANSON KNOCKING...'
It is if you are only going to mention JH not taking all his chances but not saying the same about Nahki Wells. Nahki is still missing chances regardless of his goal count.
[quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Whoisevans?[/bold] wrote: I cannot understand why Hanson get so much stick on here by so called fans. It takes a lot out of a players legs when they have to run to every ball that is put in the air. I would doubt that any that are critical of Hanson have ever played as a center forward it is a difficult thankless job they do a lot of donkey work up front that takes the strain off other players legs. I would defy anyone to go through the work load Hanson does and still have enough energy to shoot maybe that is why he doesn't like taking penalties?[/p][/quote]Why are people trying to claim this is all about Hanson knocking. All has been said is that Hanson should be converting more chances than he has so far this season. The lad himself would acknowledge this and Andrew Davies has already said something similar. Nobody is knocking what he does bring to the team and let's be fair, he is very good at what he does. However, despite claims by some on here that he isn't here to score goals, he has in the past and needs to again. One final point. Northampton are struggling but their target man constantly puts his body where it hurts. He may not be quite as effective and mobile as Hanson, but he is their target man all the same. How many times has he scored? His hattrick this weekend was very good and his diving header was top notch. All we want is for Hanson to get on the end more and start taking some of his chances. THIS IS NOT THE SAME AS HANSON KNOCKING...'[/p][/quote]It is if you are only going to mention JH not taking all his chances but not saying the same about Nahki Wells. Nahki is still missing chances regardless of his goal count. lonniejockstrap
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7:06pm Mon 12 Nov 12

lonniejockstrap says...

Waynus1971 wrote:
nowt fresh wrote:
After watching the goals on FLS it showed that Hanson has no input in Wells first goal so I apologise to you Waynus1971 for taking al&co account of the first goal, as I said at the time he was at the game but he got the assist the wrong way round which he has also apologised for.
I don't believe I did 'take him to account'. If u mean I corrected him to make my point to you, then fair enough.

That said, according to Lonnie, Hanson should be claiming an assist for both goals. Hanson won the flick on for the first and their defender made a big mistake on the half way line, allowing Wells to run through and score. When Hanson headed that ball, he was 10-15yds inside his own half, yet Lonnie is seriously crediting him with the assist?

On an aside, when watching the footage of our 2nd goal, were we (Hanson) very fortunate? Forsyth wins the header, Hanson and their defender both jump to challenge. Hanson (for once) can't get his head to it and it hits their defender on the shoulder. Luckily for us, it falls to Hanson who gets a shot in on goal, the keeper parries and Wells scores from the rebound. Hanson clearly jumped to win that header, had he connected, where would it have gone, because there were no City players waiting for the flick-on?
OK waynus tell me how Nahki would have got his first goal if Hanson hadn't have won his header. Can you seriously not see how Hanson contributed to this goal? If it makes you happier to not class it as officially 'an assist' then I'll let you have your bit of joy. But all it does is show how hard you are trying to take away the impact Hanson has on the game.

Even for the second goal you try to make out that Hanson was lucky he didn't win the header rather than give him credit for stopping the defender from having an easy clearance.

So, we have a situation where Hanson helps to cause two mistakes by Aldershot defenders that results in two goals for us and you don't want to give any credit for that to Hanson.

Can you see why some people arrive at the conclusion that you have a little something against him?
[quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: After watching the goals on FLS it showed that Hanson has no input in Wells first goal so I apologise to you Waynus1971 for taking al&co account of the first goal, as I said at the time he was at the game but he got the assist the wrong way round which he has also apologised for.[/p][/quote]I don't believe I did 'take him to account'. If u mean I corrected him to make my point to you, then fair enough. That said, according to Lonnie, Hanson should be claiming an assist for both goals. Hanson won the flick on for the first and their defender made a big mistake on the half way line, allowing Wells to run through and score. When Hanson headed that ball, he was 10-15yds inside his own half, yet Lonnie is seriously crediting him with the assist? On an aside, when watching the footage of our 2nd goal, were we (Hanson) very fortunate? Forsyth wins the header, Hanson and their defender both jump to challenge. Hanson (for once) can't get his head to it and it hits their defender on the shoulder. Luckily for us, it falls to Hanson who gets a shot in on goal, the keeper parries and Wells scores from the rebound. Hanson clearly jumped to win that header, had he connected, where would it have gone, because there were no City players waiting for the flick-on?[/p][/quote]OK waynus tell me how Nahki would have got his first goal if Hanson hadn't have won his header. Can you seriously not see how Hanson contributed to this goal? If it makes you happier to not class it as officially 'an assist' then I'll let you have your bit of joy. But all it does is show how hard you are trying to take away the impact Hanson has on the game. Even for the second goal you try to make out that Hanson was lucky he didn't win the header rather than give him credit for stopping the defender from having an easy clearance. So, we have a situation where Hanson helps to cause two mistakes by Aldershot defenders that results in two goals for us and you don't want to give any credit for that to Hanson. Can you see why some people arrive at the conclusion that you have a little something against him? lonniejockstrap
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7:34pm Mon 12 Nov 12

nowt fresh says...

lonniejockstrap wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
nowt fresh wrote: After watching the goals on FLS it showed that Hanson has no input in Wells first goal so I apologise to you Waynus1971 for taking al&co account of the first goal, as I said at the time he was at the game but he got the assist the wrong way round which he has also apologised for.
I don't believe I did 'take him to account'. If u mean I corrected him to make my point to you, then fair enough. That said, according to Lonnie, Hanson should be claiming an assist for both goals. Hanson won the flick on for the first and their defender made a big mistake on the half way line, allowing Wells to run through and score. When Hanson headed that ball, he was 10-15yds inside his own half, yet Lonnie is seriously crediting him with the assist? On an aside, when watching the footage of our 2nd goal, were we (Hanson) very fortunate? Forsyth wins the header, Hanson and their defender both jump to challenge. Hanson (for once) can't get his head to it and it hits their defender on the shoulder. Luckily for us, it falls to Hanson who gets a shot in on goal, the keeper parries and Wells scores from the rebound. Hanson clearly jumped to win that header, had he connected, where would it have gone, because there were no City players waiting for the flick-on?
OK waynus tell me how Nahki would have got his first goal if Hanson hadn't have won his header. Can you seriously not see how Hanson contributed to this goal? If it makes you happier to not class it as officially 'an assist' then I'll let you have your bit of joy. But all it does is show how hard you are trying to take away the impact Hanson has on the game. Even for the second goal you try to make out that Hanson was lucky he didn't win the header rather than give him credit for stopping the defender from having an easy clearance. So, we have a situation where Hanson helps to cause two mistakes by Aldershot defenders that results in two goals for us and you don't want to give any credit for that to Hanson. Can you see why some people arrive at the conclusion that you have a little something against him?
There used to be a poster on the City fans forum called "ParkBantam" who was similar with his analysis of what constituted an assist especially when it was Hanson !!.
[quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: After watching the goals on FLS it showed that Hanson has no input in Wells first goal so I apologise to you Waynus1971 for taking al&co account of the first goal, as I said at the time he was at the game but he got the assist the wrong way round which he has also apologised for.[/p][/quote]I don't believe I did 'take him to account'. If u mean I corrected him to make my point to you, then fair enough. That said, according to Lonnie, Hanson should be claiming an assist for both goals. Hanson won the flick on for the first and their defender made a big mistake on the half way line, allowing Wells to run through and score. When Hanson headed that ball, he was 10-15yds inside his own half, yet Lonnie is seriously crediting him with the assist? On an aside, when watching the footage of our 2nd goal, were we (Hanson) very fortunate? Forsyth wins the header, Hanson and their defender both jump to challenge. Hanson (for once) can't get his head to it and it hits their defender on the shoulder. Luckily for us, it falls to Hanson who gets a shot in on goal, the keeper parries and Wells scores from the rebound. Hanson clearly jumped to win that header, had he connected, where would it have gone, because there were no City players waiting for the flick-on?[/p][/quote]OK waynus tell me how Nahki would have got his first goal if Hanson hadn't have won his header. Can you seriously not see how Hanson contributed to this goal? If it makes you happier to not class it as officially 'an assist' then I'll let you have your bit of joy. But all it does is show how hard you are trying to take away the impact Hanson has on the game. Even for the second goal you try to make out that Hanson was lucky he didn't win the header rather than give him credit for stopping the defender from having an easy clearance. So, we have a situation where Hanson helps to cause two mistakes by Aldershot defenders that results in two goals for us and you don't want to give any credit for that to Hanson. Can you see why some people arrive at the conclusion that you have a little something against him?[/p][/quote]There used to be a poster on the City fans forum called "ParkBantam" who was similar with his analysis of what constituted an assist especially when it was Hanson !!. nowt fresh
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7:43pm Mon 12 Nov 12

bcfc1903 says...

Someones been stalking Hanson on the Pulse with twitter comments...he's called Wayne...lol...so much so Tim Thornton eventually refused to read out said tweets.
Someones been stalking Hanson on the Pulse with twitter comments...he's called Wayne...lol...so much so Tim Thornton eventually refused to read out said tweets. bcfc1903
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10:52am Tue 13 Nov 12

Waynus1971 says...

nowt fresh wrote:
lonniejockstrap wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
nowt fresh wrote: After watching the goals on FLS it showed that Hanson has no input in Wells first goal so I apologise to you Waynus1971 for taking al&co account of the first goal, as I said at the time he was at the game but he got the assist the wrong way round which he has also apologised for.
I don't believe I did 'take him to account'. If u mean I corrected him to make my point to you, then fair enough. That said, according to Lonnie, Hanson should be claiming an assist for both goals. Hanson won the flick on for the first and their defender made a big mistake on the half way line, allowing Wells to run through and score. When Hanson headed that ball, he was 10-15yds inside his own half, yet Lonnie is seriously crediting him with the assist? On an aside, when watching the footage of our 2nd goal, were we (Hanson) very fortunate? Forsyth wins the header, Hanson and their defender both jump to challenge. Hanson (for once) can't get his head to it and it hits their defender on the shoulder. Luckily for us, it falls to Hanson who gets a shot in on goal, the keeper parries and Wells scores from the rebound. Hanson clearly jumped to win that header, had he connected, where would it have gone, because there were no City players waiting for the flick-on?
OK waynus tell me how Nahki would have got his first goal if Hanson hadn't have won his header. Can you seriously not see how Hanson contributed to this goal? If it makes you happier to not class it as officially 'an assist' then I'll let you have your bit of joy. But all it does is show how hard you are trying to take away the impact Hanson has on the game. Even for the second goal you try to make out that Hanson was lucky he didn't win the header rather than give him credit for stopping the defender from having an easy clearance. So, we have a situation where Hanson helps to cause two mistakes by Aldershot defenders that results in two goals for us and you don't want to give any credit for that to Hanson. Can you see why some people arrive at the conclusion that you have a little something against him?
There used to be a poster on the City fans forum called "ParkBantam" who was similar with his analysis of what constituted an assist especially when it was Hanson !!.
And your point is? I'm not "parkbantam", so I'm not sure what you are saying.

However, in relation to the 'assist', you, yourself admitted it wasn't (after watching it on TV - you even gave me an apology). But, now that Lonnie is saying it was, you are turning against me again. Bizarre...!

Of course it can be considered an assist. However, I note that the official table only includes one from the weekend. Was that attributed to the first goal or the one where Hanson actually helped us score from his saved shot?

Hanson headed the ball, some 10-15yds inside his own half. The ball dropped just inside their half and their defender made an hash of it. Wells then had to run some 50+ yards to score. No, had Hanson not made the header, Wells would not have had the opportunity, but you could say that for every punt up field by our keeper and/or defenders. If Duke punts the ball up field looking for Hanson and both he and the defender marking him miss it and it falls to Wells instead, who scores, who gets the assist? Duke for punting it 80yds up field or Hanson for 'putting pressure on their defender, resulting in him missing the ball' and allowing Wells with an opportunity to score? I'm not being argumentative on this, I really would like to know who would get the assist (if anyone).
[quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: After watching the goals on FLS it showed that Hanson has no input in Wells first goal so I apologise to you Waynus1971 for taking al&co account of the first goal, as I said at the time he was at the game but he got the assist the wrong way round which he has also apologised for.[/p][/quote]I don't believe I did 'take him to account'. If u mean I corrected him to make my point to you, then fair enough. That said, according to Lonnie, Hanson should be claiming an assist for both goals. Hanson won the flick on for the first and their defender made a big mistake on the half way line, allowing Wells to run through and score. When Hanson headed that ball, he was 10-15yds inside his own half, yet Lonnie is seriously crediting him with the assist? On an aside, when watching the footage of our 2nd goal, were we (Hanson) very fortunate? Forsyth wins the header, Hanson and their defender both jump to challenge. Hanson (for once) can't get his head to it and it hits their defender on the shoulder. Luckily for us, it falls to Hanson who gets a shot in on goal, the keeper parries and Wells scores from the rebound. Hanson clearly jumped to win that header, had he connected, where would it have gone, because there were no City players waiting for the flick-on?[/p][/quote]OK waynus tell me how Nahki would have got his first goal if Hanson hadn't have won his header. Can you seriously not see how Hanson contributed to this goal? If it makes you happier to not class it as officially 'an assist' then I'll let you have your bit of joy. But all it does is show how hard you are trying to take away the impact Hanson has on the game. Even for the second goal you try to make out that Hanson was lucky he didn't win the header rather than give him credit for stopping the defender from having an easy clearance. So, we have a situation where Hanson helps to cause two mistakes by Aldershot defenders that results in two goals for us and you don't want to give any credit for that to Hanson. Can you see why some people arrive at the conclusion that you have a little something against him?[/p][/quote]There used to be a poster on the City fans forum called "ParkBantam" who was similar with his analysis of what constituted an assist especially when it was Hanson !!.[/p][/quote]And your point is? I'm not "parkbantam", so I'm not sure what you are saying. However, in relation to the 'assist', you, yourself admitted it wasn't (after watching it on TV - you even gave me an apology). But, now that Lonnie is saying it was, you are turning against me again. Bizarre...! Of course it can be considered an assist. However, I note that the official table only includes one from the weekend. Was that attributed to the first goal or the one where Hanson actually helped us score from his saved shot? Hanson headed the ball, some 10-15yds inside his own half. The ball dropped just inside their half and their defender made an hash of it. Wells then had to run some 50+ yards to score. No, had Hanson not made the header, Wells would not have had the opportunity, but you could say that for every punt up field by our keeper and/or defenders. If Duke punts the ball up field looking for Hanson and both he and the defender marking him miss it and it falls to Wells instead, who scores, who gets the assist? Duke for punting it 80yds up field or Hanson for 'putting pressure on their defender, resulting in him missing the ball' and allowing Wells with an opportunity to score? I'm not being argumentative on this, I really would like to know who would get the assist (if anyone). Waynus1971
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11:07am Tue 13 Nov 12

nowt fresh says...

Waynus1971 wrote:
nowt fresh wrote:
lonniejockstrap wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
nowt fresh wrote: After watching the goals on FLS it showed that Hanson has no input in Wells first goal so I apologise to you Waynus1971 for taking al&co account of the first goal, as I said at the time he was at the game but he got the assist the wrong way round which he has also apologised for.
I don't believe I did 'take him to account'. If u mean I corrected him to make my point to you, then fair enough. That said, according to Lonnie, Hanson should be claiming an assist for both goals. Hanson won the flick on for the first and their defender made a big mistake on the half way line, allowing Wells to run through and score. When Hanson headed that ball, he was 10-15yds inside his own half, yet Lonnie is seriously crediting him with the assist? On an aside, when watching the footage of our 2nd goal, were we (Hanson) very fortunate? Forsyth wins the header, Hanson and their defender both jump to challenge. Hanson (for once) can't get his head to it and it hits their defender on the shoulder. Luckily for us, it falls to Hanson who gets a shot in on goal, the keeper parries and Wells scores from the rebound. Hanson clearly jumped to win that header, had he connected, where would it have gone, because there were no City players waiting for the flick-on?
OK waynus tell me how Nahki would have got his first goal if Hanson hadn't have won his header. Can you seriously not see how Hanson contributed to this goal? If it makes you happier to not class it as officially 'an assist' then I'll let you have your bit of joy. But all it does is show how hard you are trying to take away the impact Hanson has on the game. Even for the second goal you try to make out that Hanson was lucky he didn't win the header rather than give him credit for stopping the defender from having an easy clearance. So, we have a situation where Hanson helps to cause two mistakes by Aldershot defenders that results in two goals for us and you don't want to give any credit for that to Hanson. Can you see why some people arrive at the conclusion that you have a little something against him?
There used to be a poster on the City fans forum called "ParkBantam" who was similar with his analysis of what constituted an assist especially when it was Hanson !!.
And your point is? I'm not "parkbantam", so I'm not sure what you are saying. However, in relation to the 'assist', you, yourself admitted it wasn't (after watching it on TV - you even gave me an apology). But, now that Lonnie is saying it was, you are turning against me again. Bizarre...! Of course it can be considered an assist. However, I note that the official table only includes one from the weekend. Was that attributed to the first goal or the one where Hanson actually helped us score from his saved shot? Hanson headed the ball, some 10-15yds inside his own half. The ball dropped just inside their half and their defender made an hash of it. Wells then had to run some 50+ yards to score. No, had Hanson not made the header, Wells would not have had the opportunity, but you could say that for every punt up field by our keeper and/or defenders. If Duke punts the ball up field looking for Hanson and both he and the defender marking him miss it and it falls to Wells instead, who scores, who gets the assist? Duke for punting it 80yds up field or Hanson for 'putting pressure on their defender, resulting in him missing the ball' and allowing Wells with an opportunity to score? I'm not being argumentative on this, I really would like to know who would get the assist (if anyone).
Waynus1971 please stop taking everything I post so personally I was just pointing out to lonnie about Park Bantam who used to say it could not be classed as an assist unless it was the penultimate pass,header,chest,ET
C I said once I did not agree with lonnie on this particular goal so accept my apology and move on.
[quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: After watching the goals on FLS it showed that Hanson has no input in Wells first goal so I apologise to you Waynus1971 for taking al&co account of the first goal, as I said at the time he was at the game but he got the assist the wrong way round which he has also apologised for.[/p][/quote]I don't believe I did 'take him to account'. If u mean I corrected him to make my point to you, then fair enough. That said, according to Lonnie, Hanson should be claiming an assist for both goals. Hanson won the flick on for the first and their defender made a big mistake on the half way line, allowing Wells to run through and score. When Hanson headed that ball, he was 10-15yds inside his own half, yet Lonnie is seriously crediting him with the assist? On an aside, when watching the footage of our 2nd goal, were we (Hanson) very fortunate? Forsyth wins the header, Hanson and their defender both jump to challenge. Hanson (for once) can't get his head to it and it hits their defender on the shoulder. Luckily for us, it falls to Hanson who gets a shot in on goal, the keeper parries and Wells scores from the rebound. Hanson clearly jumped to win that header, had he connected, where would it have gone, because there were no City players waiting for the flick-on?[/p][/quote]OK waynus tell me how Nahki would have got his first goal if Hanson hadn't have won his header. Can you seriously not see how Hanson contributed to this goal? If it makes you happier to not class it as officially 'an assist' then I'll let you have your bit of joy. But all it does is show how hard you are trying to take away the impact Hanson has on the game. Even for the second goal you try to make out that Hanson was lucky he didn't win the header rather than give him credit for stopping the defender from having an easy clearance. So, we have a situation where Hanson helps to cause two mistakes by Aldershot defenders that results in two goals for us and you don't want to give any credit for that to Hanson. Can you see why some people arrive at the conclusion that you have a little something against him?[/p][/quote]There used to be a poster on the City fans forum called "ParkBantam" who was similar with his analysis of what constituted an assist especially when it was Hanson !!.[/p][/quote]And your point is? I'm not "parkbantam", so I'm not sure what you are saying. However, in relation to the 'assist', you, yourself admitted it wasn't (after watching it on TV - you even gave me an apology). But, now that Lonnie is saying it was, you are turning against me again. Bizarre...! Of course it can be considered an assist. However, I note that the official table only includes one from the weekend. Was that attributed to the first goal or the one where Hanson actually helped us score from his saved shot? Hanson headed the ball, some 10-15yds inside his own half. The ball dropped just inside their half and their defender made an hash of it. Wells then had to run some 50+ yards to score. No, had Hanson not made the header, Wells would not have had the opportunity, but you could say that for every punt up field by our keeper and/or defenders. If Duke punts the ball up field looking for Hanson and both he and the defender marking him miss it and it falls to Wells instead, who scores, who gets the assist? Duke for punting it 80yds up field or Hanson for 'putting pressure on their defender, resulting in him missing the ball' and allowing Wells with an opportunity to score? I'm not being argumentative on this, I really would like to know who would get the assist (if anyone).[/p][/quote]Waynus1971 please stop taking everything I post so personally I was just pointing out to lonnie about Park Bantam who used to say it could not be classed as an assist unless it was the penultimate pass,header,chest,ET C I said once I did not agree with lonnie on this particular goal so accept my apology and move on. nowt fresh
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11:16am Tue 13 Nov 12

Waynus1971 says...

lonniejockstrap wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
nowt fresh wrote: After watching the goals on FLS it showed that Hanson has no input in Wells first goal so I apologise to you Waynus1971 for taking al&co account of the first goal, as I said at the time he was at the game but he got the assist the wrong way round which he has also apologised for.
I don't believe I did 'take him to account'. If u mean I corrected him to make my point to you, then fair enough. That said, according to Lonnie, Hanson should be claiming an assist for both goals. Hanson won the flick on for the first and their defender made a big mistake on the half way line, allowing Wells to run through and score. When Hanson headed that ball, he was 10-15yds inside his own half, yet Lonnie is seriously crediting him with the assist? On an aside, when watching the footage of our 2nd goal, were we (Hanson) very fortunate? Forsyth wins the header, Hanson and their defender both jump to challenge. Hanson (for once) can't get his head to it and it hits their defender on the shoulder. Luckily for us, it falls to Hanson who gets a shot in on goal, the keeper parries and Wells scores from the rebound. Hanson clearly jumped to win that header, had he connected, where would it have gone, because there were no City players waiting for the flick-on?
OK waynus tell me how Nahki would have got his first goal if Hanson hadn't have won his header. Can you seriously not see how Hanson contributed to this goal? If it makes you happier to not class it as officially 'an assist' then I'll let you have your bit of joy. But all it does is show how hard you are trying to take away the impact Hanson has on the game. Even for the second goal you try to make out that Hanson was lucky he didn't win the header rather than give him credit for stopping the defender from having an easy clearance. So, we have a situation where Hanson helps to cause two mistakes by Aldershot defenders that results in two goals for us and you don't want to give any credit for that to Hanson. Can you see why some people arrive at the conclusion that you have a little something against him?
It's all a question of opinion though isn't it Lonnie? You disagree with mine, but if you look at the updated official league stats, he was only attributed with one assist from the weekend. Which one did he have the bigger impact in?

Which leads me to my 2nd point. I wasn't criticising Hanson's impact in the 2nd goal. I merely pointed out, to those that claim he is getting no luck, that he did get some good luck. That ball could have bounced anyway, but it didn't. He reacted quicker than their defender, managed to get a shot in and we scored from the rebound. I will (and did at the time) give him credit for the goal; that wasn't my point above.

Turning back to the first goal, of course Wells wouldn't have been able to score had Hanson not headed the ball. However, he was 10-15yds inside his own half and the ball landed just inside the opposition half. Nine times out of 10, that ball would be cleared by the defender nearest to Wells or by a covering defender. On this occasion it wouldn't.

How many times do our defenders/midfielder
s head the ball in similar positions to Wells, but because the defending is substantially better, there is never any sniff of a goal from them.

To reiterate to everyone that believes I'm on some witch-hunt, I am not. I rate Hanson highly at what he does well and I'm one of the first on my feet when he see him charging down on a defender and causing him to make an error/clear into touch, winning us the ball back. I can also see how effective he is with his back to goal and when coming back to defend set-pieces. My only comment is that he needs to start taking his chances and being more aggressive in the opposition penalty area. He is strong elsewhere, but seems to struggle when the defender 'wrestles' with him.

Finally, you say I only ever pick up on Hanson's "areas for development", which is not true. Last Tuesday I accused Wells of going to ground too easily when he should have tried to stay on his feet. This, again in my opinion only, is an area that HE can improve on.

Go on Hanson, go get the Cobblers tonight...!
[quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: After watching the goals on FLS it showed that Hanson has no input in Wells first goal so I apologise to you Waynus1971 for taking al&co account of the first goal, as I said at the time he was at the game but he got the assist the wrong way round which he has also apologised for.[/p][/quote]I don't believe I did 'take him to account'. If u mean I corrected him to make my point to you, then fair enough. That said, according to Lonnie, Hanson should be claiming an assist for both goals. Hanson won the flick on for the first and their defender made a big mistake on the half way line, allowing Wells to run through and score. When Hanson headed that ball, he was 10-15yds inside his own half, yet Lonnie is seriously crediting him with the assist? On an aside, when watching the footage of our 2nd goal, were we (Hanson) very fortunate? Forsyth wins the header, Hanson and their defender both jump to challenge. Hanson (for once) can't get his head to it and it hits their defender on the shoulder. Luckily for us, it falls to Hanson who gets a shot in on goal, the keeper parries and Wells scores from the rebound. Hanson clearly jumped to win that header, had he connected, where would it have gone, because there were no City players waiting for the flick-on?[/p][/quote]OK waynus tell me how Nahki would have got his first goal if Hanson hadn't have won his header. Can you seriously not see how Hanson contributed to this goal? If it makes you happier to not class it as officially 'an assist' then I'll let you have your bit of joy. But all it does is show how hard you are trying to take away the impact Hanson has on the game. Even for the second goal you try to make out that Hanson was lucky he didn't win the header rather than give him credit for stopping the defender from having an easy clearance. So, we have a situation where Hanson helps to cause two mistakes by Aldershot defenders that results in two goals for us and you don't want to give any credit for that to Hanson. Can you see why some people arrive at the conclusion that you have a little something against him?[/p][/quote]It's all a question of opinion though isn't it Lonnie? You disagree with mine, but if you look at the updated official league stats, he was only attributed with one assist from the weekend. Which one did he have the bigger impact in? Which leads me to my 2nd point. I wasn't criticising Hanson's impact in the 2nd goal. I merely pointed out, to those that claim he is getting no luck, that he did get some good luck. That ball could have bounced anyway, but it didn't. He reacted quicker than their defender, managed to get a shot in and we scored from the rebound. I will (and did at the time) give him credit for the goal; that wasn't my point above. Turning back to the first goal, of course Wells wouldn't have been able to score had Hanson not headed the ball. However, he was 10-15yds inside his own half and the ball landed just inside the opposition half. Nine times out of 10, that ball would be cleared by the defender nearest to Wells or by a covering defender. On this occasion it wouldn't. How many times do our defenders/midfielder s head the ball in similar positions to Wells, but because the defending is substantially better, there is never any sniff of a goal from them. To reiterate to everyone that believes I'm on some witch-hunt, I am not. I rate Hanson highly at what he does well and I'm one of the first on my feet when he see him charging down on a defender and causing him to make an error/clear into touch, winning us the ball back. I can also see how effective he is with his back to goal and when coming back to defend set-pieces. My only comment is that he needs to start taking his chances and being more aggressive in the opposition penalty area. He is strong elsewhere, but seems to struggle when the defender 'wrestles' with him. Finally, you say I only ever pick up on Hanson's "areas for development", which is not true. Last Tuesday I accused Wells of going to ground too easily when he should have tried to stay on his feet. This, again in my opinion only, is an area that HE can improve on. Go on Hanson, go get the Cobblers tonight...! Waynus1971
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2:17pm Tue 13 Nov 12

bcfc1903 says...

I see Hanson got another mention from a league club manager...Aidy Boothroyd called him a big presence...i've lost count of the number of players, managers... fans of many clubs who have pointed out, highlighted Hanson's strengths as a player. Hanson will probably never be a prolific goalscorer...probabl
y 15 in a season but add to that goal assists..his all round play...holding the ball up...heading ability....the lack of control the opposition get when Hanson is playing...it doesn't take a rocket scientist to conclude that Hanson brings plenty to the table....the tweets on the pulse maligning Hanson were ludicrous as are some of the points made in this thread.
I see Hanson got another mention from a league club manager...Aidy Boothroyd called him a big presence...i've lost count of the number of players, managers... fans of many clubs who have pointed out, highlighted Hanson's strengths as a player. Hanson will probably never be a prolific goalscorer...probabl y 15 in a season but add to that goal assists..his all round play...holding the ball up...heading ability....the lack of control the opposition get when Hanson is playing...it doesn't take a rocket scientist to conclude that Hanson brings plenty to the table....the tweets on the pulse maligning Hanson were ludicrous as are some of the points made in this thread. bcfc1903
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