Live: Aldershot v Bantams (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)

tyker2 wrote:
a tough game likely; we rarely show up at the Rec:where gardens and flowers adorn one end of the dground protectedby large nets running the width of the pitch. Aything clearing the height will kave missed by over 12 foot or more

sergioleone wrote:
little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?

Waynus1971 wrote:
Just to show that I'm not all against Hanson, I will give him credit for forcing a save from the Shot's keeper, which allowed Wells to ram home the rebound.

sergioleone wrote:

Waynus1971 wrote:
Just to show that I'm not all against Hanson, I will give him credit for forcing a save from the Shot's keeper, which allowed Wells to ram home the rebound.

very nice of you.Funny tho that every manager he has had whether semi-pro or pro has made him the focal point of the attack.Funny that innit pal ??

sergioleone wrote:

Waynus1971 wrote: Just to show that I'm not all against Hanson, I will give him credit for forcing a save from the Shot's keeper, which allowed Wells to ram home the rebound.

very nice of you.Funny tho that every manager he has had whether semi-pro or pro has made him the focal point of the attack.Funny that innit pal ??

Victor Clayton wrote:

sergioleone wrote:

Waynus1971 wrote: Just to show that I'm not all against Hanson, I will give him credit for forcing a save from the Shot's keeper, which allowed Wells to ram home the rebound.

very nice of you.Funny tho that every manager he has had whether semi-pro or pro has made him the focal point of the attack.Funny that innit pal ??

I would have said most managers have tried to replace him. to his credit he is still there.

nowt fresh wrote:

sergioleone wrote:

Waynus1971 wrote: Just to show that I'm not all against Hanson, I will give him credit for forcing a save from the Shot's keeper, which allowed Wells to ram home the rebound.

very nice of you.Funny tho that every manager he has had whether semi-pro or pro has made him the focal point of the attack.Funny that innit pal ??

Honestly don't know why you bother answering anti Hanson comments from this guy, it was obvious to a blind man how much we missed Hanson on Tuesday night Chesterfield central defenders never got a sweat on,andNaki did not look the same player without the BIG man :-)), "puts his tin hat on ready for the flac".

Victor Clayton wrote:
Well done City - up to 4th.
how did Forsyth play?

KnightMcCall wrote:

Victor Clayton wrote:
Well done City - up to 4th.
how did Forsyth play?

Forsythe was solid and gave city a second option in the air to help JH. To be honest, City were just as they were v Chesterfield but with a couple of goals to show for their efforts. The whole team were solid. Forsythe will also have enjoyed his parent clubs result nearly as much as I did.

Waynus1971 wrote:
Woah..... hold yer horses fellas. I said his shooting is off-kilter and made a comment to Tyker that he would clear the stand. AND HE DID....! I have never dismissed his aerial power and the amount of work he does. He helped create Nahki's 2nd goal and I was more than happy to give him some credit because it was due.. What I do dismiss is that his presence in the team is often attributed to Nahki's goals. Our first today was all down to Wells (and a big mistake by their defender). I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them. It simply didn't work for us and although Wells had opportunities, he took the option of going to ground instead.

Waynus1971 wrote:

sergioleone wrote:
little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?

Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above.

"Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc"

It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right...............

!

lonniejockstrap wrote:

Waynus1971 wrote:

sergioleone wrote: little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?

Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above. "Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc" It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right............... !

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You need to get off Hanson's back Waynus you really are overdoing it and it's reflecting pretty badly on you as a person in my opinion. A lot of opponent managers rate and commented on his effectiveness in causing their teams a problem, AND every manager we have had since he's been at the Club has had him in the team when fit. So either you know more about professional football than all those professional managers or you are so hell bent on wanting to be proved right -eventually- that you are wishing for him to do badly and go out of your way to point out every fault or mistake of his. He might not be of international level but he is certainly worthy of being in our team.

lonniejockstrap wrote:

Waynus1971 wrote:

sergioleone wrote:
little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?

Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above.

"Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc"

It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right...............


!

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You need to get off Hanson's back Waynus you really are overdoing it and it's reflecting pretty badly on you as a person in my opinion.

A lot of opponent managers rate and commented on his effectiveness in causing their teams a problem, AND every manager we have had since he's been at the Club has had him in the team when fit. So either you know more about professional football than all those professional managers or you are so hell bent on wanting to be proved right -eventually- that you are wishing for him to do badly and go out of your way to point out every fault or mistake of his.

He might not be of international level but he is certainly worthy of being in our team.

Waynus1971 wrote:
Woah..... hold yer horses fellas. I said his shooting is off-kilter and made a comment to Tyker that he would clear the stand. AND HE DID....! I have never dismissed his aerial power and the amount of work he does. He helped create Nahki's 2nd goal and I was more than happy to give him some credit because it was due.. What I do dismiss is that his presence in the team is often attributed to Nahki's goals. Our first today was all down to Wells (and a big mistake by their defender). I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them. It simply didn't work for us and although Wells had opportunities, he took the option of going to ground instead.

Waynus1971 wrote:
Woah..... hold yer horses fellas. I said his shooting is off-kilter and made a comment to Tyker that he would clear the stand. AND HE DID....! I have never dismissed his aerial power and the amount of work he does. He helped create Nahki's 2nd goal and I was more than happy to give him some credit because it was due.. What I do dismiss is that his presence in the team is often attributed to Nahki's goals. Our first today was all down to Wells (and a big mistake by their defender). I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them. It simply didn't work for us and although Wells had opportunities, he took the option of going to ground instead.

lonniejockstrap wrote:

Waynus1971 wrote:

sergioleone wrote:
little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?

Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above.

"Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc"

It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right...............


!

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You need to get off Hanson's back Waynus you really are overdoing it and it's reflecting pretty badly on you as a person in my opinion.

A lot of opponent managers rate and commented on his effectiveness in causing their teams a problem, AND every manager we have had since he's been at the Club has had him in the team when fit. So either you know more about professional football than all those professional managers or you are so hell bent on wanting to be proved right -eventually- that you are wishing for him to do badly and go out of your way to point out every fault or mistake of his.

He might not be of international level but he is certainly worthy of being in our team.

lonniejockstrap wrote:

Waynus1971 wrote:

sergioleone wrote:
little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?

Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above.

"Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc"

It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right...............


!

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You need to get off Hanson's back Waynus you really are overdoing it and it's reflecting pretty badly on you as a person in my opinion.

A lot of opponent managers rate and commented on his effectiveness in causing their teams a problem, AND every manager we have had since he's been at the Club has had him in the team when fit. So either you know more about professional football than all those professional managers or you are so hell bent on wanting to be proved right -eventually- that you are wishing for him to do badly and go out of your way to point out every fault or mistake of his.

He might not be of international level but he is certainly worthy of being in our team.

lonniejockstrap wrote:

Waynus1971 wrote:

sergioleone wrote:
little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?

Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above.

"Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc"

It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right...............


!

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You need to get off Hanson's back Waynus you really are overdoing it and it's reflecting pretty badly on you as a person in my opinion.

A lot of opponent managers rate and commented on his effectiveness in causing their teams a problem, AND every manager we have had since he's been at the Club has had him in the team when fit. So either you know more about professional football than all those professional managers or you are so hell bent on wanting to be proved right -eventually- that you are wishing for him to do badly and go out of your way to point out every fault or mistake of his.

He might not be of international level but he is certainly worthy of being in our team.

Victor Clayton wrote:

lonniejockstrap wrote:

Waynus1971 wrote:

sergioleone wrote:
little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?

Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above.

"Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc"

It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right...............



!

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You need to get off Hanson's back Waynus you really are overdoing it and it's reflecting pretty badly on you as a person in my opinion.

A lot of opponent managers rate and commented on his effectiveness in causing their teams a problem, AND every manager we have had since he's been at the Club has had him in the team when fit. So either you know more about professional football than all those professional managers or you are so hell bent on wanting to be proved right -eventually- that you are wishing for him to do badly and go out of your way to point out every fault or mistake of his.

He might not be of international level but he is certainly worthy of being in our team.

to be fair to Waynus he has said very little wrong and to me seemed like a bit of banter. I can not think of any poster who has not agreed that JH is deserved of his place. but this jumping on anyone who is not gushing about him seems OTT to me!

nowt fresh wrote:

Waynus1971 wrote:
Woah..... hold yer horses fellas. I said his shooting is off-kilter and made a comment to Tyker that he would clear the stand. AND HE DID....! I have never dismissed his aerial power and the amount of work he does. He helped create Nahki's 2nd goal and I was more than happy to give him some credit because it was due.. What I do dismiss is that his presence in the team is often attributed to Nahki's goals. Our first today was all down to Wells (and a big mistake by their defender). I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them. It simply didn't work for us and although Wells had opportunities, he took the option of going to ground instead.

Please tell us all why you believe this comment you posted " I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them" we will never know but please enlighten us all, Chesterfields two central defenders never broke sweat because there was no physical presence from the front two or the team in general so don't understand your comment we will never know it's like me saying I believe we would have won the game with Hanson ?,the one thing that can be said Waynus1971 is there centre halves would have been busier with Hanson in the side than not surely you saw that on Tuesday night ?.

lonniejockstrap wrote:

Victor Clayton wrote:

lonniejockstrap wrote:

Waynus1971 wrote:

sergioleone wrote:
little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?

Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above.

"Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc"

It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right...............




!

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You need to get off Hanson's back Waynus you really are overdoing it and it's reflecting pretty badly on you as a person in my opinion.

A lot of opponent managers rate and commented on his effectiveness in causing their teams a problem, AND every manager we have had since he's been at the Club has had him in the team when fit. So either you know more about professional football than all those professional managers or you are so hell bent on wanting to be proved right -eventually- that you are wishing for him to do badly and go out of your way to point out every fault or mistake of his.

He might not be of international level but he is certainly worthy of being in our team.

to be fair to Waynus he has said very little wrong and to me seemed like a bit of banter. I can not think of any poster who has not agreed that JH is deserved of his place. but this jumping on anyone who is not gushing about him seems OTT to me!

Don't worry yourself over it victor, maybe you have just come out of a coma and are unaware of waynus regularly choosing to publicly highlight Hanson's human failings -as he sees them. Even the pulse has refused to put up with waynus's constant digs and won't read out his constant communication with them using his form of 'banter' at Hanson's expense.

Not aware of anyone on here 'gushing' at Hanson -although I could name a fair few managers of teams we have played who have been close to gushing over his impact on the game- just people wanting waynus to leave off the lad.

Victor Clayton wrote:

lonniejockstrap wrote:

Waynus1971 wrote:

sergioleone wrote: little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?

Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above. "Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc" It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right............... !

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You need to get off Hanson's back Waynus you really are overdoing it and it's reflecting pretty badly on you as a person in my opinion. A lot of opponent managers rate and commented on his effectiveness in causing their teams a problem, AND every manager we have had since he's been at the Club has had him in the team when fit. So either you know more about professional football than all those professional managers or you are so hell bent on wanting to be proved right -eventually- that you are wishing for him to do badly and go out of your way to point out every fault or mistake of his. He might not be of international level but he is certainly worthy of being in our team.

to be fair to Waynus he has said very little wrong and to me seemed like a bit of banter. I can not think of any poster who has not agreed that JH is deserved of his place. but this jumping on anyone who is not gushing about him seems OTT to me!

Victor Clayton wrote:

lonniejockstrap wrote:

Waynus1971 wrote:

sergioleone wrote:
little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?

Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above.

"Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc"

It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right...............



!

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You need to get off Hanson's back Waynus you really are overdoing it and it's reflecting pretty badly on you as a person in my opinion.

A lot of opponent managers rate and commented on his effectiveness in causing their teams a problem, AND every manager we have had since he's been at the Club has had him in the team when fit. So either you know more about professional football than all those professional managers or you are so hell bent on wanting to be proved right -eventually- that you are wishing for him to do badly and go out of your way to point out every fault or mistake of his.

He might not be of international level but he is certainly worthy of being in our team.

to be fair to Waynus he has said very little wrong and to me seemed like a bit of banter. I can not think of any poster who has not agreed that JH is deserved of his place. but this jumping on anyone who is not gushing about him seems OTT to me!

Waynus1971 wrote:

nowt fresh wrote:

Waynus1971 wrote: Woah..... hold yer horses fellas. I said his shooting is off-kilter and made a comment to Tyker that he would clear the stand. AND HE DID....! I have never dismissed his aerial power and the amount of work he does. He helped create Nahki's 2nd goal and I was more than happy to give him some credit because it was due.. What I do dismiss is that his presence in the team is often attributed to Nahki's goals. Our first today was all down to Wells (and a big mistake by their defender). I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them. It simply didn't work for us and although Wells had opportunities, he took the option of going to ground instead.

Please tell us all why you believe this comment you posted " I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them" we will never know but please enlighten us all, Chesterfields two central defenders never broke sweat because there was no physical presence from the front two or the team in general so don't understand your comment we will never know it's like me saying I believe we would have won the game with Hanson ?,the one thing that can be said Waynus1971 is there centre halves would have been busier with Hanson in the side than not surely you saw that on Tuesday night ?.

Yes, the Chesterfield defenders would have been busier, but let's be honest here. Hanson does most of his work OUTSIDE the box. He often drops too deep (for the cause) and when he does flick on, Wells is is still 20+ yards from goal and still has a lot to do. You are right that the defenders would have been worked harder, but how does that automatically equal a goal? Hanson hasn't looked like scoring himself for a while (albeit had a chance saved which fell to Wells today) and the rest of team on Tuesday just didn't create enough for our front two. I just don't believe Hanson would have made a difference on that score. Hines was poor, Atkinson tried but didn't create much and Jones & Doyle are not going to create much (other than set-pieces). How would Hanson (and his hard-working performances) have changed that?

nowt fresh wrote:

Victor Clayton wrote:

lonniejockstrap wrote:

Waynus1971 wrote:

sergioleone wrote: little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?

Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above. "Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc" It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right............... !

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You need to get off Hanson's back Waynus you really are overdoing it and it's reflecting pretty badly on you as a person in my opinion. A lot of opponent managers rate and commented on his effectiveness in causing their teams a problem, AND every manager we have had since he's been at the Club has had him in the team when fit. So either you know more about professional football than all those professional managers or you are so hell bent on wanting to be proved right -eventually- that you are wishing for him to do badly and go out of your way to point out every fault or mistake of his. He might not be of international level but he is certainly worthy of being in our team.

to be fair to Waynus he has said very little wrong and to me seemed like a bit of banter. I can not think of any poster who has not agreed that JH is deserved of his place. but this jumping on anyone who is not gushing about him seems OTT to me!

Here's two comment he's made " Our first today was all down to Wells (and a big mistake by their defender)" yet al&co who went to the game said " This was a good win and Hanson played his part. I was at the game.

He is never going to be an International but he is an asset to our team and played a major part in our first goal" then he comes out with " I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them" that's why people respond to "his banter" I'll say it again and no doubt get my knuckles wrapped by Waynus1971, remember all the crap he came out with about Hanson drinking in the past and I suppose that was just banter as well, nobody is going OTT Waynus1971 does not help himself with he constant innuendos re James Hanson, I'll say no more as the Hanson debate is getting boring he's not the best thing since sliced bread but HE IS THE BEST TARGET MAN BRADFORD CITY HAVE AT THE MOMENT.

Onebrianmitchell wrote:

nowt fresh wrote:

Victor Clayton wrote:

lonniejockstrap wrote:

Waynus1971 wrote:

sergioleone wrote: little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?

Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above. "Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc" It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right............... !

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You need to get off Hanson's back Waynus you really are overdoing it and it's reflecting pretty badly on you as a person in my opinion. A lot of opponent managers rate and commented on his effectiveness in causing their teams a problem, AND every manager we have had since he's been at the Club has had him in the team when fit. So either you know more about professional football than all those professional managers or you are so hell bent on wanting to be proved right -eventually- that you are wishing for him to do badly and go out of your way to point out every fault or mistake of his. He might not be of international level but he is certainly worthy of being in our team.

to be fair to Waynus he has said very little wrong and to me seemed like a bit of banter. I can not think of any poster who has not agreed that JH is deserved of his place. but this jumping on anyone who is not gushing about him seems OTT to me!

Here's two comment he's made " Our first today was all down to Wells (and a big mistake by their defender)" yet al&co who went to the game said " This was a good win and Hanson played his part. I was at the game. He is never going to be an International but he is an asset to our team and played a major part in our first goal" then he comes out with " I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them" that's why people respond to "his banter" I'll say it again and no doubt get my knuckles wrapped by Waynus1971, remember all the crap he came out with about Hanson drinking in the past and I suppose that was just banter as well, nobody is going OTT Waynus1971 does not help himself with he constant innuendos re James Hanson, I'll say no more as the Hanson debate is getting boring he's not the best thing since sliced bread but HE IS THE BEST TARGET MAN BRADFORD CITY HAVE AT THE MOMENT.

I agree with the last line in the quoted post. I also think that it should be noted, as others on here have pointed out, that he does untold great defensive work. I don't understand however why people are so emotive when he is criticised. The fact is we have played 17 league games, I aren't such an anorak to know how many he has played in, but he has scored only 4 goals. At the moment he is forming a formidable partnership with Wells but with a record of 4 goals he will always attract his distractors. He is one of two strikers and performing the worst of the two goal wise. I'm not knocking him, but the above points are very true. Anyway let's get behind the boys !!

nowt fresh wrote:

Victor Clayton wrote:

lonniejockstrap wrote:

Waynus1971 wrote:

sergioleone wrote: little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?

Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above. "Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc" It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right............... !

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You need to get off Hanson's back Waynus you really are overdoing it and it's reflecting pretty badly on you as a person in my opinion. A lot of opponent managers rate and commented on his effectiveness in causing their teams a problem, AND every manager we have had since he's been at the Club has had him in the team when fit. So either you know more about professional football than all those professional managers or you are so hell bent on wanting to be proved right -eventually- that you are wishing for him to do badly and go out of your way to point out every fault or mistake of his. He might not be of international level but he is certainly worthy of being in our team.

to be fair to Waynus he has said very little wrong and to me seemed like a bit of banter. I can not think of any poster who has not agreed that JH is deserved of his place. but this jumping on anyone who is not gushing about him seems OTT to me!

Here's two comment he's made " Our first today was all down to Wells (and a big mistake by their defender)" yet al&co who went to the game said " This was a good win and Hanson played his part. I was at the game.

He is never going to be an International but he is an asset to our team and played a major part in our first goal" then he comes out with " I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them" that's why people respond to "his banter" I'll say it again and no doubt get my knuckles wrapped by Waynus1971, remember all the crap he came out with about Hanson drinking in the past and I suppose that was just banter as well, nobody is going OTT Waynus1971 does not help himself with he constant innuendos re James Hanson, I'll say no more as the Hanson debate is getting boring he's not the best thing since sliced bread but HE IS THE BEST TARGET MAN BRADFORD CITY HAVE AT THE MOMENT.

Waynus1971 wrote:

nowt fresh wrote:

Victor Clayton wrote:

lonniejockstrap wrote:

Waynus1971 wrote:

sergioleone wrote: little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?

Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above. "Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc" It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right............... !

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You need to get off Hanson's back Waynus you really are overdoing it and it's reflecting pretty badly on you as a person in my opinion. A lot of opponent managers rate and commented on his effectiveness in causing their teams a problem, AND every manager we have had since he's been at the Club has had him in the team when fit. So either you know more about professional football than all those professional managers or you are so hell bent on wanting to be proved right -eventually- that you are wishing for him to do badly and go out of your way to point out every fault or mistake of his. He might not be of international level but he is certainly worthy of being in our team.

to be fair to Waynus he has said very little wrong and to me seemed like a bit of banter. I can not think of any poster who has not agreed that JH is deserved of his place. but this jumping on anyone who is not gushing about him seems OTT to me!

Here's two comment he's made " Our first today was all down to Wells (and a big mistake by their defender)" yet al&co who went to the game said " This was a good win and Hanson played his part. I was at the game. He is never going to be an International but he is an asset to our team and played a major part in our first goal" then he comes out with " I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them" that's why people respond to "his banter" I'll say it again and no doubt get my knuckles wrapped by Waynus1971, remember all the crap he came out with about Hanson drinking in the past and I suppose that was just banter as well, nobody is going OTT Waynus1971 does not help himself with he constant innuendos re James Hanson, I'll say no more as the Hanson debate is getting boring he's not the best thing since sliced bread but HE IS THE BEST TARGET MAN BRADFORD CITY HAVE AT THE MOMENT.

BINGO.... I wondered when the first reference to 'drinking' would be made...! You guys do make me laugh. As for Al&Co, he has got it wrong fella. Hanson had a significant part in our SECOND goal, because he had a shot saved and Wells tucked in the rebound. The first was down to a defensive error and Wells capitalising. That isn't me being negative, that is a fact...! I didn't deny it was "a good win" or that "Hanson played his part". Read my posts again and you will find that!

sergioleone wrote:

Waynus1971 wrote:

nowt fresh wrote:

Waynus1971 wrote: Woah..... hold yer horses fellas. I said his shooting is off-kilter and made a comment to Tyker that he would clear the stand. AND HE DID....! I have never dismissed his aerial power and the amount of work he does. He helped create Nahki's 2nd goal and I was more than happy to give him some credit because it was due.. What I do dismiss is that his presence in the team is often attributed to Nahki's goals. Our first today was all down to Wells (and a big mistake by their defender). I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them. It simply didn't work for us and although Wells had opportunities, he took the option of going to ground instead.

Please tell us all why you believe this comment you posted " I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them" we will never know but please enlighten us all, Chesterfields two central defenders never broke sweat because there was no physical presence from the front two or the team in general so don't understand your comment we will never know it's like me saying I believe we would have won the game with Hanson ?,the one thing that can be said Waynus1971 is there centre halves would have been busier with Hanson in the side than not surely you saw that on Tuesday night ?.

Yes, the Chesterfield defenders would have been busier, but let's be honest here. Hanson does most of his work OUTSIDE the box. He often drops too deep (for the cause) and when he does flick on, Wells is is still 20+ yards from goal and still has a lot to do. You are right that the defenders would have been worked harder, but how does that automatically equal a goal? Hanson hasn't looked like scoring himself for a while (albeit had a chance saved which fell to Wells today) and the rest of team on Tuesday just didn't create enough for our front two. I just don't believe Hanson would have made a difference on that score. Hines was poor, Atkinson tried but didn't create much and Jones & Doyle are not going to create much (other than set-pieces). How would Hanson (and his hard-working performances) have changed that?

Waynus,i will say it again,you haven't got a clue joker.How is it every time you post on here it is regarding our no.9?It comes across as very obsessive and i would seek help if i were you LITTLE man.

Waynus1971 wrote:

nowt fresh wrote:

Waynus1971 wrote:
Woah..... hold yer horses fellas. I said his shooting is off-kilter and made a comment to Tyker that he would clear the stand. AND HE DID....! I have never dismissed his aerial power and the amount of work he does. He helped create Nahki's 2nd goal and I was more than happy to give him some credit because it was due.. What I do dismiss is that his presence in the team is often attributed to Nahki's goals. Our first today was all down to Wells (and a big mistake by their defender). I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them. It simply didn't work for us and although Wells had opportunities, he took the option of going to ground instead.

Please tell us all why you believe this comment you posted " I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them" we will never know but please enlighten us all, Chesterfields two central defenders never broke sweat because there was no physical presence from the front two or the team in general so don't understand your comment we will never know it's like me saying I believe we would have won the game with Hanson ?,the one thing that can be said Waynus1971 is there centre halves would have been busier with Hanson in the side than not surely you saw that on Tuesday night ?.

Yes, the Chesterfield defenders would have been busier, but let's be honest here. Hanson does most of his work OUTSIDE the box. He often drops too deep (for the cause) and when he does flick on, Wells is is still 20+ yards from goal and still has a lot to do.

You are right that the defenders would have been worked harder, but how does that automatically equal a goal? Hanson hasn't looked like scoring himself for a while (albeit had a chance saved which fell to Wells today) and the rest of team on Tuesday just didn't create enough for our front two.

I just don't believe Hanson would have made a difference on that score. Hines was poor, Atkinson tried but didn't create much and Jones & Doyle are not going to create much (other than set-pieces). How would Hanson (and his hard-working performances) have changed that?

sergioleone wrote:
whoooahhhh.......wat

ch it pal your keyboard might catch fire SMALL person.

nowt fresh wrote:

Victor Clayton wrote:

lonniejockstrap wrote:

Waynus1971 wrote:

sergioleone wrote: little waynus loves his digs.u jealous pal?

Not at all, BUT can I just quote a tweet from Simon Parker within minutes of my post above. "Hanson has just cleared the stand - and nearly the trees behind - with a volley. Not much to watch so far, scrappy stuff #bcafc" It appears that this 'jealous' poster was right............... !

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. You need to get off Hanson's back Waynus you really are overdoing it and it's reflecting pretty badly on you as a person in my opinion. A lot of opponent managers rate and commented on his effectiveness in causing their teams a problem, AND every manager we have had since he's been at the Club has had him in the team when fit. So either you know more about professional football than all those professional managers or you are so hell bent on wanting to be proved right -eventually- that you are wishing for him to do badly and go out of your way to point out every fault or mistake of his. He might not be of international level but he is certainly worthy of being in our team.

to be fair to Waynus he has said very little wrong and to me seemed like a bit of banter. I can not think of any poster who has not agreed that JH is deserved of his place. but this jumping on anyone who is not gushing about him seems OTT to me!

Here's two comment he's made " Our first today was all down to Wells (and a big mistake by their defender)" yet al&co who went to the game said " This was a good win and Hanson played his part. I was at the game.

He is never going to be an International but he is an asset to our team and played a major part in our first goal" then he comes out with " I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them" that's why people respond to "his banter" I'll say it again and no doubt get my knuckles wrapped by Waynus1971, remember all the crap he came out with about Hanson drinking in the past and I suppose that was just banter as well, nobody is going OTT Waynus1971 does not help himself with he constant innuendos re James Hanson, I'll say no more as the Hanson debate is getting boring he's not the best thing since sliced bread but HE IS THE BEST TARGET MAN BRADFORD CITY HAVE AT THE MOMENT.

Waynus1971 wrote:
To all those that are having a go at me tonight can I ask you do to one thing for me. Don't resort to name calling or smart-4R5E comments. Simply tell me what part of my post you disagree with and then we can have a proper debate instead of this constant sniping. 1) James Hanson is very good in the air and wins many flick ons. He also wins lots of ball in our own penalty area, thus halping out defensively. HOWEVER, in my opinion, he doesn't attack the ball in the opposition box with the same gusto. This is one of the reasons he has scored just twice with his head this season. AGREE/DISAGREE? 2) James Hanson works hard for the team, chasing lost causes and never giving defenders time to relax. HOWEVER, because of this commitment, when he does force an error, he is often not in the penalty area where we need him to be. AGREE/DISAGREE? 3) James Hanson wins lots of flick-ons, but because of our style of play, he often has to drop fairly deep (25-30yrs from goal) to get his head on the ball. As a result, if Wells (or Hanson's strike partner for the day) gets on the end, they are often still a considerable distance from goal. AGREE/DISAGREE? If you disagree, fair enough, but at least it should put to bed this notion that I am constantly attacking the big man. I just put across my views on the player, GOOD or bad.....!

nowt fresh wrote:
Sorry fella just quoting what he saw as he was at "the game" ?? re the Hanson drinking issue just pointing out to Victor Clayton that you have been on this lads case for as you put it "hundred years ago" it's not 100 years ago Waynus1971 just seems like it with your constant **** re Hanson.

tyker2 wrote:
waynus :I don't recall saying Hanson would knck it over the stand. I was talking about the high net at one end of the ground but, nevermind that, just accept he is the best centre forward we have had on the books for many a year and,at present, those brought in to challenge have fallen by the wayside. i agree he could score more goals himself but I ,for one, are more than happy with his contribution to the team effort

I know he holds you in the same regard as you hold him. So let be the end of it!

Waynus1971 wrote:
To all those that are having a go at me tonight can I ask you do to one thing for me. Don't resort to name calling or smart-4R5E comments. Simply tell me what part of my post you disagree with and then we can have a proper debate instead of this constant sniping.

1) James Hanson is very good in the air and wins many flick ons. He also wins lots of ball in our own penalty area, thus halping out defensively. HOWEVER, in my opinion, he doesn't attack the ball in the opposition box with the same gusto. This is one of the reasons he has scored just twice with his head this season. AGREE/DISAGREE?

2) James Hanson works hard for the team, chasing lost causes and never giving defenders time to relax. HOWEVER, because of this commitment, when he does force an error, he is often not in the penalty area where we need him to be. AGREE/DISAGREE?

3) James Hanson wins lots of flick-ons, but because of our style of play, he often has to drop fairly deep (25-30yrs from goal) to get his head on the ball. As a result, if Wells (or Hanson's strike partner for the day) gets on the end, they are often still a considerable distance from goal. AGREE/DISAGREE?

If you disagree, fair enough, but at least it should put to bed this notion that I am constantly attacking the big man. I just put across my views on the player, GOOD or bad.....!

Willie Eckerslyke wrote:
The heading says Aldershot v Bantams but it looks like it's turned in to a love-in for Jimmy Hanson? Great play has been made of the way he puts himself about, wins his headers and is always considered a handful by opposing managers. At 6ft-4 he is entitled to, of course, but are none of you concerned that we only have one player who seems capable of scoring goals?

Other than Nahki's excellent haul Hanson has 4 (lge) goals, Connell has 3 and except for Davies no other player has scored more than once. If the goals were being shared around it wouldn't be a concern that the centre forward wasn't scoring himself but this is not the case. Heaven forbid anything should happen to Nahki but it is difficult to see a sustained promotion challenge if he should be out for any length of time.

A quick check of Hanson's scoring record away from VP makes rather grim reading. 4 (lge) goals in 2010/11; 1 goal in 2011/12 and none this season. Indeed he hasn't scored an away goal since 1 Oct 2011.

At what he does we don't currently have anyone better at the club so it would be difficult to leave him out but I, for one, would like to see some of the Arsenal money invested in a big lad who can also score goals at this level. PP has already proved he has an eye for a player and our continuing promotion push may depend upon him finding Hanson's replacement.

lonniejockstrap wrote:

Waynus1971 wrote:

nowt fresh wrote:

Waynus1971 wrote:
Woah..... hold yer horses fellas. I said his shooting is off-kilter and made a comment to Tyker that he would clear the stand. AND HE DID....! I have never dismissed his aerial power and the amount of work he does. He helped create Nahki's 2nd goal and I was more than happy to give him some credit because it was due.. What I do dismiss is that his presence in the team is often attributed to Nahki's goals. Our first today was all down to Wells (and a big mistake by their defender). I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them. It simply didn't work for us and although Wells had opportunities, he took the option of going to ground instead.

Please tell us all why you believe this comment you posted " I still don't believe Nahki (or any of our other strikers) would have scored on Tuesday night, had Hanson played alongside them" we will never know but please enlighten us all, Chesterfields two central defenders never broke sweat because there was no physical presence from the front two or the team in general so don't understand your comment we will never know it's like me saying I believe we would have won the game with Hanson ?,the one thing that can be said Waynus1971 is there centre halves would have been busier with Hanson in the side than not surely you saw that on Tuesday night ?.

Yes, the Chesterfield defenders would have been busier, but let's be honest here. Hanson does most of his work OUTSIDE the box. He often drops too deep (for the cause) and when he does flick on, Wells is is still 20+ yards from goal and still has a lot to do.

You are right that the defenders would have been worked harder, but how does that automatically equal a goal? Hanson hasn't looked like scoring himself for a while (albeit had a chance saved which fell to Wells today) and the rest of team on Tuesday just didn't create enough for our front two.

I just don't believe Hanson would have made a difference on that score. Hines was poor, Atkinson tried but didn't create much and Jones & Doyle are not going to create much (other than set-pieces). How would Hanson (and his hard-working performances) have changed that?

Maybe every ball that was won by a Chesterfield defender would have been won by Hanson? I don't recall us winning a single ball in the air against their defenders. If Hanson had have been winning and flicking on it may have meant them having to defend deeper which may have resulted in more space in midfield for us. It may also have meant more room for Hines as they sat deeper. It isn't just about how many goals Hanson scores -although where would we have been without his goals in previous seasons- it is also about how he makes a difference to how our opponents have to play. They have to try nullify him. He makes a difference to opponents gaining possession 40-50 yds out from their goal or 30-40 yds further back towards their goal. He doesn't have to score for opponent managers to mention what an impact he has had on the game, and they should know.

Willie Eckerslyke wrote:
The heading says Aldershot v Bantams but it looks like it's turned in to a love-in for Jimmy Hanson? Great play has been made of the way he puts himself about, wins his headers and is always considered a handful by opposing managers. At 6ft-4 he is entitled to, of course, but are none of you concerned that we only have one player who seems capable of scoring goals?

Other than Nahki's excellent haul Hanson has 4 (lge) goals, Connell has 3 and except for Davies no other player has scored more than once. If the goals were being shared around it wouldn't be a concern that the centre forward wasn't scoring himself but this is not the case. Heaven forbid anything should happen to Nahki but it is difficult to see a sustained promotion challenge if he should be out for any length of time.

A quick check of Hanson's scoring record away from VP makes rather grim reading. 4 (lge) goals in 2010/11; 1 goal in 2011/12 and none this season. Indeed he hasn't scored an away goal since 1 Oct 2011.

At what he does we don't currently have anyone better at the club so it would be difficult to leave him out but I, for one, would like to see some of the Arsenal money invested in a big lad who can also score goals at this level. PP has already proved he has an eye for a player and our continuing promotion push may depend upon him finding Hanson's replacement.

Onebrianmitchell wrote:

Willie Eckerslyke wrote:
The heading says Aldershot v Bantams but it looks like it's turned in to a love-in for Jimmy Hanson? Great play has been made of the way he puts himself about, wins his headers and is always considered a handful by opposing managers. At 6ft-4 he is entitled to, of course, but are none of you concerned that we only have one player who seems capable of scoring goals?

Other than Nahki's excellent haul Hanson has 4 (lge) goals, Connell has 3 and except for Davies no other player has scored more than once. If the goals were being shared around it wouldn't be a concern that the centre forward wasn't scoring himself but this is not the case. Heaven forbid anything should happen to Nahki but it is difficult to see a sustained promotion challenge if he should be out for any length of time.

A quick check of Hanson's scoring record away from VP makes rather grim reading. 4 (lge) goals in 2010/11; 1 goal in 2011/12 and none this season. Indeed he hasn't scored an away goal since 1 Oct 2011.

At what he does we don't currently have anyone better at the club so it would be difficult to leave him out but I, for one, would like to see some of the Arsenal money invested in a big lad who can also score goals at this level. PP has already proved he has an eye for a player and our continuing promotion push may depend upon him finding Hanson's replacement.

Brilliant and informed post and myexact thoughts on the situation.

lonniejockstrap wrote:

Waynus1971 wrote:
To all those that are having a go at me tonight can I ask you do to one thing for me. Don't resort to name calling or smart-4R5E comments. Simply tell me what part of my post you disagree with and then we can have a proper debate instead of this constant sniping.

1) James Hanson is very good in the air and wins many flick ons. He also wins lots of ball in our own penalty area, thus halping out defensively. HOWEVER, in my opinion, he doesn't attack the ball in the opposition box with the same gusto. This is one of the reasons he has scored just twice with his head this season. AGREE/DISAGREE?

2) James Hanson works hard for the team, chasing lost causes and never giving defenders time to relax. HOWEVER, because of this commitment, when he does force an error, he is often not in the penalty area where we need him to be. AGREE/DISAGREE?

3) James Hanson wins lots of flick-ons, but because of our style of play, he often has to drop fairly deep (25-30yrs from goal) to get his head on the ball. As a result, if Wells (or Hanson's strike partner for the day) gets on the end, they are often still a considerable distance from goal. AGREE/DISAGREE?

If you disagree, fair enough, but at least it should put to bed this notion that I am constantly attacking the big man. I just put across my views on the player, GOOD or bad.....!

My response:
1) Whether or not it can be a lack of 'gusto' as to be the reason for him not scoring as many goals as you would like I can't honestly say. Is it the quality of the ball into the box? is it his starting position? is it the opposition players who will probably have been practising all week that are stopping him from doing his own thing? I see him win a few balls in the box and he heads for goal without much chance of scoring because there are no players waiting to feed off of a knock down.

2) If you are correct with this then it is down to the manager to tell him what a he wants him to do isn't it? And, if he wasn't in a position to win the first ball would it matter if he got in the box? Would the ball get in the box without him beating the defenders in the air or 'forcing an error' in the first place -chicken and egg?

3) This depends on the quality and/or the position the ball is played from and the area it is played into. It also means players feeding off Hanson need to read/anticipate where Hanson can/will flick the ball, which, again will depend greatly on the quality of the pass to him. Can agree that if you are suggesting that when Hanson wins the ball and finds an attacking team-mate that somehow this should be seen in a negative light.

Waynus1971 wrote:

nowt fresh wrote: Sorry fella just quoting what he saw as he was at "the game" ?? re the Hanson drinking issue just pointing out to Victor Clayton that you have been on this lads case for as you put it "hundred years ago" it's not 100 years ago Waynus1971 just seems like it with your constant **** re Hanson.

I know you were just quoting him, but he simply made a mistake with the order of the goals. That's all. In relation to the drinking, I knew somebody would post about it. It was OVER 2 yrs ago, yet the likes of you constantly bring it up. I don't (unless I have to defend myself again). And finally, I'm not constantly criticising Hanson. I have made it clear on numerous occasions that I value the player. I often praise his hard work and the 'ugly' stuff he does off the ball. However, just as I do with ANY player, if there are aspects of their game that I believe needs work on, I point it out. It is you lot that make it into a battle. Everyone is raving about Jones, but (just to prove my point), I think he could do better in an attacking sense. He is a fantastic midfielder, but doesn't have the same finish as, say a, Syers, for example.

macca1969 wrote:
Total nonsense posting. Why is it that no one can say anything about James Hanson? It is a debate that's all. No one has said he is rubbish or not worthy of a place in the team, if so please quote the poster. Even Davies came out and said how Hanson works hard for the team but also said he had to be mindful that he will be judged on goals as well and at the moment he was missing too many. Since Davies made that comment James has gone on to score how many? Zero is the amount for the record. Big James has got value to the team no one argues with that do they. Yes he is the best we have in that role at the club at the moment does that make it wrong to wish he got a few more goals to help the team out, i personally don't think so. Barry Conlon was better in the air than Boulding or Thorne and he was slated on this site by many who back Hanson. Why? Is it because he is a local lad. More importantly i will repeat no one is saying Hanson isn't worth a place in the team, only wishing he might score a few more goals thats all. Now grow up you muppets its a bloodi debate

bcfc1903 wrote:
Hanson is an excellent player, obviously you'd have to be blind, daft as a brush or not understand the rudiments of the game to disagree with that....obviously he would be missed greatly if he was out of the team for any length of time or one game as Chesterfield proved. I don't think to be fair this thread is anything other than a joke. To win a game 2-0... then start nit picking seems odd and hardly a true reflection of the game and the player in question. Obviouly certain folk have an agenda dating back to a grassing incident years ago. It really is time to put this problem to bed, it's been festering for years on various sites and even raised it's ugly head on tweets on the Pulse.

**
We shout with pride...we never hide...Claret and Amber.

nowt fresh wrote:

macca1969 wrote:
Total nonsense posting. Why is it that no one can say anything about James Hanson? It is a debate that's all. No one has said he is rubbish or not worthy of a place in the team, if so please quote the poster. Even Davies came out and said how Hanson works hard for the team but also said he had to be mindful that he will be judged on goals as well and at the moment he was missing too many. Since Davies made that comment James has gone on to score how many? Zero is the amount for the record. Big James has got value to the team no one argues with that do they. Yes he is the best we have in that role at the club at the moment does that make it wrong to wish he got a few more goals to help the team out, i personally don't think so. Barry Conlon was better in the air than Boulding or Thorne and he was slated on this site by many who back Hanson. Why? Is it because he is a local lad. More importantly i will repeat no one is saying Hanson isn't worth a place in the team, only wishing he might score a few more goals thats all. Now grow up you muppets its a bloodi debate

macca1969 you spoilt a reasonable post with your last comment !! are you the message board police ? if you don't agree with me your a muppet ? love it :-))

Onebrianmitchell wrote:
Devils advocate posting.

How many City wins have come from brilliant, nerve shredding penalty shoot outs in the cup in the last 2 years?

We are the penalty kings.

How often does Hanson take one?

Onebrianmitchell wrote:
Devils advocate posting.

How many City wins have come from brilliant, nerve shredding penalty shoot outs in the cup in the last 2 years?

We are the penalty kings.

How often does Hanson take one?

Victor Clayton wrote:

bcfc1903 wrote:
Hanson is an excellent player, obviously you'd have to be blind, daft as a brush or not understand the rudiments of the game to disagree with that....obviously he would be missed greatly if he was out of the team for any length of time or one game as Chesterfield proved. I don't think to be fair this thread is anything other than a joke. To win a game 2-0... then start nit picking seems odd and hardly a true reflection of the game and the player in question. Obviouly certain folk have an agenda dating back to a grassing incident years ago. It really is time to put this problem to bed, it's been festering for years on various sites and even raised it's ugly head on tweets on the Pulse.

**
We shout with pride...we never hide...Claret and Amber.

I agree with you in respect of the Hanson thread. Wells is up to 12! his knockers havent been on for a while - joke.

Willie Eckerslyke wrote:
The heading says Aldershot v Bantams but it looks like it's turned in to a love-in for Jimmy Hanson? Great play has been made of the way he puts himself about, wins his headers and is always considered a handful by opposing managers. At 6ft-4 he is entitled to, of course, but are none of you concerned that we only have one player who seems capable of scoring goals? Other than Nahki's excellent haul Hanson has 4 (lge) goals, Connell has 3 and except for Davies no other player has scored more than once. If the goals were being shared around it wouldn't be a concern that the centre forward wasn't scoring himself but this is not the case. Heaven forbid anything should happen to Nahki but it is difficult to see a sustained promotion challenge if he should be out for any length of time. A quick check of Hanson's scoring record away from VP makes rather grim reading. 4 (lge) goals in 2010/11; 1 goal in 2011/12 and none this season. Indeed he hasn't scored an away goal since 1 Oct 2011. At what he does we don't currently have anyone better at the club so it would be difficult to leave him out but I, for one, would like to see some of the Arsenal money invested in a big lad who can also score goals at this level. PP has already proved he has an eye for a player and our continuing promotion push may depend upon him finding Hanson's replacement.

macca1969 wrote:
Total nonsense posting. Why is it that no one can say anything about James Hanson? It is a debate that's all. No one has said he is rubbish or not worthy of a place in the team, if so please quote the poster. Even Davies came out and said how Hanson works hard for the team but also said he had to be mindful that he will be judged on goals as well and at the moment he was missing too many. Since Davies made that comment James has gone on to score how many? Zero is the amount for the record.
Big James has got value to the team no one argues with that do they. Yes he is the best we have in that role at the club at the moment does that make it wrong to wish he got a few more goals to help the team out, i personally don't think so. Barry Conlon was better in the air than Boulding or Thorne and he was slated on this site by many who back Hanson. Why? Is it because he is a local lad.

More importantly i will repeat no one is saying Hanson isn't worth a place in the team, only wishing he might score a few more goals thats all. Now grow up you muppets its a bloodi debate

nowt fresh wrote:

Willie Eckerslyke wrote:
The heading says Aldershot v Bantams but it looks like it's turned in to a love-in for Jimmy Hanson? Great play has been made of the way he puts himself about, wins his headers and is always considered a handful by opposing managers. At 6ft-4 he is entitled to, of course, but are none of you concerned that we only have one player who seems capable of scoring goals? Other than Nahki's excellent haul Hanson has 4 (lge) goals, Connell has 3 and except for Davies no other player has scored more than once. If the goals were being shared around it wouldn't be a concern that the centre forward wasn't scoring himself but this is not the case. Heaven forbid anything should happen to Nahki but it is difficult to see a sustained promotion challenge if he should be out for any length of time. A quick check of Hanson's scoring record away from VP makes rather grim reading. 4 (lge) goals in 2010/11; 1 goal in 2011/12 and none this season. Indeed he hasn't scored an away goal since 1 Oct 2011. At what he does we don't currently have anyone better at the club so it would be difficult to leave him out but I, for one, would like to see some of the Arsenal money invested in a big lad who can also score goals at this level. PP has already proved he has an eye for a player and our continuing promotion push may depend upon him finding Hanson's replacement.

1 Tom Pope Port Vale 16
2 Jamie Cureton Exeter 12
3 Nahki Wells Bradford 10
3 Rene Howe Torquay 10
5 Adebayo Akinfenwa Northamptn 9
5 Danny Kedwell Gillingham 9
5 Tom Craddock Oxford Utd 9
8 Britt Assombalonga Southend 8
9 Bobby Grant Rochdale 7
9 Alex Nicholls Northamptn 7
9 Padraig Amond Accrington 7
9 Byron Harrison AFC W'don 7
13 Calvin Zola Burton Alb 6
13 Craig Reid Aldershot 6
13 Ashley Chambers York City 6
13 Dwight Gayle Dag + Red 6
13 Luke Howell Dag + Red 6
18 Tom Eaves Bristol R 5
18 Daniel Nardiello Rotherham 5
18 Romuald Boco Accrington 5
No other team above12th position in division 2 have there two leading scorers in the top 18 so why the criticism of Hanson or Connell doing no less than any other striking partnership in division 2. states taken from
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tball/166.

Onebrianmitchell wrote:
Devils advocate posting. How many City wins have come from brilliant, nerve shredding penalty shoot outs in the cup in the last 2 years? We are the penalty kings. How often does Hanson take one?

nowt fresh wrote:

Onebrianmitchell wrote:
Devils advocate posting. How many City wins have come from brilliant, nerve shredding penalty shoot outs in the cup in the last 2 years? We are the penalty kings. How often does Hanson take one?

Yes Onebrianmitchell playing Devils advocate :Duke scored a penalty in the shoot outs let's give him the No 9 shirt ??.

Onebrianmitchell wrote:

nowt fresh wrote:

Onebrianmitchell wrote: Devils advocate posting. How many City wins have come from brilliant, nerve shredding penalty shoot outs in the cup in the last 2 years? We are the penalty kings. How often does Hanson take one?

Yes Onebrianmitchell playing Devils advocate :Duke scored a penalty in the shoot outs let's give him the No 9 shirt ??.

Answer the question.

nowt fresh wrote:

Onebrianmitchell wrote:
Devils advocate posting. How many City wins have come from brilliant, nerve shredding penalty shoot outs in the cup in the last 2 years? We are the penalty kings. How often does Hanson take one?

Yes Onebrianmitchell playing Devils advocate :Duke scored a penalty in the shoot outs let's give him the No 9 shirt ??.

nowt fresh wrote:

Onebrianmitchell wrote:

nowt fresh wrote:

Onebrianmitchell wrote: Devils advocate posting. How many City wins have come from brilliant, nerve shredding penalty shoot outs in the cup in the last 2 years? We are the penalty kings. How often does Hanson take one?

Yes Onebrianmitchell playing Devils advocate :Duke scored a penalty in the shoot outs let's give him the No 9 shirt ??.

Answer the question.

He doesn't !! so whats your point ?
don't know how far you go back Onebrianmitchell but I'm sure you and I could name several "strkers/target men" who didn't take penalties for Bradford City so I'll ask you the question whats your point ?.

Onebrianmitchell wrote:

nowt fresh wrote:

Onebrianmitchell wrote: Devils advocate posting. How many City wins have come from brilliant, nerve shredding penalty shoot outs in the cup in the last 2 years? We are the penalty kings. How often does Hanson take one?

Yes Onebrianmitchell playing Devils advocate :Duke scored a penalty in the shoot outs let's give him the No 9 shirt ??.

I've tried to be kind and ignore this. What a poor, stupendous, thick, unfounded come back this is. In a strange, football like, unknown universe a BCAFC keeper took a penalty. Only a brain dead person would try and use this worldy event as a point of debate. Only that idiot could use it to debate a striker. But, hey that's the Tand A website. Again, when has Hanson taken a penalty? Did he take one at Wigan?

nowt fresh wrote:

Willie Eckerslyke wrote:
The heading says Aldershot v Bantams but it looks like it's turned in to a love-in for Jimmy Hanson? Great play has been made of the way he puts himself about, wins his headers and is always considered a handful by opposing managers. At 6ft-4 he is entitled to, of course, but are none of you concerned that we only have one player who seems capable of scoring goals? Other than Nahki's excellent haul Hanson has 4 (lge) goals, Connell has 3 and except for Davies no other player has scored more than once. If the goals were being shared around it wouldn't be a concern that the centre forward wasn't scoring himself but this is not the case. Heaven forbid anything should happen to Nahki but it is difficult to see a sustained promotion challenge if he should be out for any length of time. A quick check of Hanson's scoring record away from VP makes rather grim reading. 4 (lge) goals in 2010/11; 1 goal in 2011/12 and none this season. Indeed he hasn't scored an away goal since 1 Oct 2011. At what he does we don't currently have anyone better at the club so it would be difficult to leave him out but I, for one, would like to see some of the Arsenal money invested in a big lad who can also score goals at this level. PP has already proved he has an eye for a player and our continuing promotion push may depend upon him finding Hanson's replacement.

1 Tom Pope Port Vale 16
2 Jamie Cureton Exeter 12
3 Nahki Wells Bradford 10
3 Rene Howe Torquay 10
5 Adebayo Akinfenwa Northamptn 9
5 Danny Kedwell Gillingham 9
5 Tom Craddock Oxford Utd 9
8 Britt Assombalonga Southend 8
9 Bobby Grant Rochdale 7
9 Alex Nicholls Northamptn 7
9 Padraig Amond Accrington 7
9 Byron Harrison AFC W'don 7
13 Calvin Zola Burton Alb 6
13 Craig Reid Aldershot 6
13 Ashley Chambers York City 6
13 Dwight Gayle Dag + Red 6
13 Luke Howell Dag + Red 6
18 Tom Eaves Bristol R 5
18 Daniel Nardiello Rotherham 5
18 Romuald Boco Accrington 5
No other team above12th position in division 2 have there two leading scorers in the top 18 so why the criticism of Hanson or Connell doing no less than any other striking partnership in division 2. states taken from
http://m.skysports.c

om/leadingscorer/foo

tball/166.

northyorksbantam wrote:

nowt fresh wrote:

Willie Eckerslyke wrote: The heading says Aldershot v Bantams but it looks like it's turned in to a love-in for Jimmy Hanson? Great play has been made of the way he puts himself about, wins his headers and is always considered a handful by opposing managers. At 6ft-4 he is entitled to, of course, but are none of you concerned that we only have one player who seems capable of scoring goals? Other than Nahki's excellent haul Hanson has 4 (lge) goals, Connell has 3 and except for Davies no other player has scored more than once. If the goals were being shared around it wouldn't be a concern that the centre forward wasn't scoring himself but this is not the case. Heaven forbid anything should happen to Nahki but it is difficult to see a sustained promotion challenge if he should be out for any length of time. A quick check of Hanson's scoring record away from VP makes rather grim reading. 4 (lge) goals in 2010/11; 1 goal in 2011/12 and none this season. Indeed he hasn't scored an away goal since 1 Oct 2011. At what he does we don't currently have anyone better at the club so it would be difficult to leave him out but I, for one, would like to see some of the Arsenal money invested in a big lad who can also score goals at this level. PP has already proved he has an eye for a player and our continuing promotion push may depend upon him finding Hanson's replacement.

1 Tom Pope Port Vale 16 2 Jamie Cureton Exeter 12 3 Nahki Wells Bradford 10 3 Rene Howe Torquay 10 5 Adebayo Akinfenwa Northamptn 9 5 Danny Kedwell Gillingham 9 5 Tom Craddock Oxford Utd 9 8 Britt Assombalonga Southend 8 9 Bobby Grant Rochdale 7 9 Alex Nicholls Northamptn 7 9 Padraig Amond Accrington 7 9 Byron Harrison AFC W'don 7 13 Calvin Zola Burton Alb 6 13 Craig Reid Aldershot 6 13 Ashley Chambers York City 6 13 Dwight Gayle Dag + Red 6 13 Luke Howell Dag + Red 6 18 Tom Eaves Bristol R 5 18 Daniel Nardiello Rotherham 5 18 Romuald Boco Accrington 5 No other team above12th position in division 2 have there two leading scorers in the top 18 so why the criticism of Hanson or Connell doing no less than any other striking partnership in division 2. states taken from http://m.skysports.c om/leadingscorer/foo tball/166.

Useful post which highlights Hansons lack of goals. He is is not in the top 18 goal scorers in league 2 currently. As a centre forward he will probably be quite disappointed with this. Just because Wells is right up there and other clubs haven't got 2 in there doesn't mean to say James shouldn't be, if he can weigh in with a few more that could be the differnce between auto spots or the play-offs. In fact he currently sits joint 29th with 17 other players in the scoring charts. One goal less and it would be joint 46th, I would struggle to think of a CF that could be satisfied with this. Although he can be happy with other aspects of his game which is well highlighted, and which is more than keeping him in the team on merit, goal scoring seems to be a problem at the moment and its not all down to bad crosses etc,his finishing has been poor for some time, hopefully when he gets one in, in any which way he can, it will start happening for him again...

Shadrach Dingle wrote:
'Duke has done well recently but he frightens me to death on crosses and I think we need to be stronger in goal as we pepare for the long haul.'

I agree. I cringed when I heard Thornton say, 'Duke came for a cross and flapped at it'. Any keeper can fling himself about and make showbiz finger tip saves but I judge goalkeepers on how well they cope with crosses and I'm afraid Duke just isn't up to the mark. Imho McLaughlin is seriously under-rated and the sooner he's back between the sticks the better.

'I think a big well done to our defence, McArdle, Egan and McHugh have done fantastic work since both Oliver and Davies got sidelined...thought we'd struggle badly without these two rocks but the Irish have done our club proud'

'Must say McArdle and Egan look a class act, incredible that we've lost the rocks that are Davies and Oliver yet our defence looks as strong, brilliant picks by Parkinson.'

The truth is we haven't missed Oliver at all. In fact it's blatantly obvious that we're a much better team without him. McArdle, McHugh, Egan and even Nathan Doyle who are all nimbler on their feet would be a better option to partner Davies in the heart of our defence.

nowt fresh wrote:
After watching the goals on FLS it showed that Hanson has no input in Wells first goal so I apologise to you Waynus1971 for taking al&co account of the first goal, as I said at the time he was at the game but he got the assist the wrong way round which he has also apologised for.

lonniejockstrap wrote:

nowt fresh wrote: After watching the goals on FLS it showed that Hanson has no input in Wells first goal so I apologise to you Waynus1971 for taking al&co account of the first goal, as I said at the time he was at the game but he got the assist the wrong way round which he has also apologised for.

Hanson flicked on for Wells to run half the field score.

nowt fresh wrote:

lonniejockstrap wrote:

nowt fresh wrote: After watching the goals on FLS it showed that Hanson has no input in Wells first goal so I apologise to you Waynus1971 for taking al&co account of the first goal, as I said at the time he was at the game but he got the assist the wrong way round which he has also apologised for.

Hanson flicked on for Wells to run half the field score.

May be so but their defender made a right taws of defending ?.

tyker2 wrote:
celebrate a 4 th place : celebrate a good performancce against a team struggling but improvong slowly. Relatives who went said we were never iat real risk and played better football all over the park with good performances from all and in particular Meredith who they thought was a class act

lonniejockstrap wrote:

nowt fresh wrote:

lonniejockstrap wrote:

nowt fresh wrote: After watching the goals on FLS it showed that Hanson has no input in Wells first goal so I apologise to you Waynus1971 for taking al&co account of the first goal, as I said at the time he was at the game but he got the assist the wrong way round which he has also apologised for.

Hanson flicked on for Wells to run half the field score.

May be so but their defender made a right taws of defending ?.

He did indeed, but if Hanson hadn't won the header in the first place the defender wouldn't have needed to make a mistake. I am a great believer in playing the percentage game. Small, what appear to be insignificant things adding up to make an overall significant difference. Having said that, Hanson winning the header before their defender was very significant in yesterdays case because it led to a mistake by another Aldershot player which then lead to Nahki scoring. We didn't win anything at all like that against Chesterfield.

nowt fresh wrote:

northyorksbantam wrote:

nowt fresh wrote:

Willie Eckerslyke wrote: The heading says Aldershot v Bantams but it looks like it's turned in to a love-in for Jimmy Hanson? Great play has been made of the way he puts himself about, wins his headers and is always considered a handful by opposing managers. At 6ft-4 he is entitled to, of course, but are none of you concerned that we only have one player who seems capable of scoring goals? Other than Nahki's excellent haul Hanson has 4 (lge) goals, Connell has 3 and except for Davies no other player has scored more than once. If the goals were being shared around it wouldn't be a concern that the centre forward wasn't scoring himself but this is not the case. Heaven forbid anything should happen to Nahki but it is difficult to see a sustained promotion challenge if he should be out for any length of time. A quick check of Hanson's scoring record away from VP makes rather grim reading. 4 (lge) goals in 2010/11; 1 goal in 2011/12 and none this season. Indeed he hasn't scored an away goal since 1 Oct 2011. At what he does we don't currently have anyone better at the club so it would be difficult to leave him out but I, for one, would like to see some of the Arsenal money invested in a big lad who can also score goals at this level. PP has already proved he has an eye for a player and our continuing promotion push may depend upon him finding Hanson's replacement.

1 Tom Pope Port Vale 16 2 Jamie Cureton Exeter 12 3 Nahki Wells Bradford 10 3 Rene Howe Torquay 10 5 Adebayo Akinfenwa Northamptn 9 5 Danny Kedwell Gillingham 9 5 Tom Craddock Oxford Utd 9 8 Britt Assombalonga Southend 8 9 Bobby Grant Rochdale 7 9 Alex Nicholls Northamptn 7 9 Padraig Amond Accrington 7 9 Byron Harrison AFC W'don 7 13 Calvin Zola Burton Alb 6 13 Craig Reid Aldershot 6 13 Ashley Chambers York City 6 13 Dwight Gayle Dag + Red 6 13 Luke Howell Dag + Red 6 18 Tom Eaves Bristol R 5 18 Daniel Nardiello Rotherham 5 18 Romuald Boco Accrington 5 No other team above12th position in division 2 have there two leading scorers in the top 18 so why the criticism of Hanson or Connell doing no less than any other striking partnership in division 2. states taken from http://m.skysports.c om/leadingscorer/foo tball/166.

Useful post which highlights Hansons lack of goals. He is is not in the top 18 goal scorers in league 2 currently. As a centre forward he will probably be quite disappointed with this. Just because Wells is right up there and other clubs haven't got 2 in there doesn't mean to say James shouldn't be, if he can weigh in with a few more that could be the differnce between auto spots or the play-offs. In fact he currently sits joint 29th with 17 other players in the scoring charts. One goal less and it would be joint 46th, I would struggle to think of a CF that could be satisfied with this. Although he can be happy with other aspects of his game which is well highlighted, and which is more than keeping him in the team on merit, goal scoring seems to be a problem at the moment and its not all down to bad crosses etc,his finishing has been poor for some time, hopefully when he gets one in, in any which way he can, it will start happening for him again...

northyorksbantam my post was in responce to Willie Eckerslyke comment about only having one player who seems to be able to score ! just pointing out non of the teams in auto/play off positions have two in the top 18 goalscorers in our division,can't argue that James has not scored more I'm sure he's doing all he can to rectify that but it still does not alter the fact that promotion chasing teams don't have two strikers who share the goals at this time in the season as the above stats show ?.

northyorksbantam wrote:
You say "no other team striving for promotion are sharing the goalscoring" OK lets look at the top 2 Gills have Kedwell 11 Burton 6 Weston 5 Port Vale have Pope 17 Vincent 6 Myrie Williams 5 Dodds 4 Williamson 4 Bradford have Wells 12 Hanson 4 Those stats would suggest Gills and Vale are sharing the goal scoring to me, or certainly more than what we are, we have a gaping hole between Wells and Hanson and very little below that, including a very disappointing contribution from midfield, and probably the point Willie may have been making.

northyorksbantam wrote:
You say "no other team striving for promotion are sharing the goalscoring" OK lets look at the top 2

Gills have
Kedwell 11
Burton 6
Weston 5

Port Vale have
Pope 17
Vincent 6
Myrie Williams 5
Dodds 4
Williamson 4

Bradford have

Wells 12
Hanson 4

Those stats would suggest Gills and Vale are sharing the goal scoring to me, or certainly more than what we are, we have a gaping hole between Wells and Hanson and very little below that, including a very disappointing contribution from midfield, and probably the point Willie may have been making.

lonniejockstrap wrote:

northyorksbantam wrote: You say "no other team striving for promotion are sharing the goalscoring" OK lets look at the top 2 Gills have Kedwell 11 Burton 6 Weston 5 Port Vale have Pope 17 Vincent 6 Myrie Williams 5 Dodds 4 Williamson 4 Bradford have Wells 12 Hanson 4 Those stats would suggest Gills and Vale are sharing the goal scoring to me, or certainly more than what we are, we have a gaping hole between Wells and Hanson and very little below that, including a very disappointing contribution from midfield, and probably the point Willie may have been making.

Still not sure why the goals have to be shared or why we need a 20 plus scorer or whatever as long as the team is winning. Cheltenham have Harrad 5, Mohamed 4 and Zebroski 4 they are in 3rd spot with worse goal difference than us but 4 points better off. Oxford's leading goal scorer's are Craddock 10 Potter 5 Constable 3 This is 'better' than our top 3 but they are 8 points and 14 goals worse off than us. So what does any of this comparing prove or matter? We are doing well and Hanson is playing his part in helping the team score goals and win games.

Whoisevans? wrote:
I cannot understand why Hanson get so much stick on here by so called fans. It takes a lot out of a players legs when they have to run to every ball that is put in the air. I would doubt that any that are critical of Hanson have ever played as a center forward it is a difficult thankless job they do a lot of donkey work up front that takes the strain off other players legs. I would defy anyone to go through the work load Hanson does and still have enough energy to shoot maybe that is why he doesn't like taking penalties?

nowt fresh wrote:

Waynus1971 wrote:

nowt fresh wrote: Sorry fella just quoting what he saw as he was at "the game" ?? re the Hanson drinking issue just pointing out to Victor Clayton that you have been on this lads case for as you put it "hundred years ago" it's not 100 years ago Waynus1971 just seems like it with your constant **** re Hanson.

I know you were just quoting him, but he simply made a mistake with the order of the goals. That's all. In relation to the drinking, I knew somebody would post about it. It was OVER 2 yrs ago, yet the likes of you constantly bring it up. I don't (unless I have to defend myself again). And finally, I'm not constantly criticising Hanson. I have made it clear on numerous occasions that I value the player. I often praise his hard work and the 'ugly' stuff he does off the ball. However, just as I do with ANY player, if there are aspects of their game that I believe needs work on, I point it out. It is you lot that make it into a battle. Everyone is raving about Jones, but (just to prove my point), I think he could do better in an attacking sense. He is a fantastic midfielder, but doesn't have the same finish as, say a, Syers, for example.

Brought up in reply to Victor Clayton as I posted you had an issue then and although you say you criticise all players it just happends to be James Hanson who seems to be your focal point,re Jones agree he is a fantastic midfielder but apart from the goals he gets from his free kicks I don't think PP see's him as a replacement for Syers, Syers could recieve the ball in his own half (when an opposition attack broke down) and run box to box and score, Jones is not that type of player, I may be wrong but I don't believe his scoring record has been great any where he has played.

nowt fresh wrote:

Onebrianmitchell wrote:
Devils advocate posting. How many City wins have come from brilliant, nerve shredding penalty shoot outs in the cup in the last 2 years? We are the penalty kings. How often does Hanson take one?

Yes Onebrianmitchell playing Devils advocate :Duke scored a penalty in the shoot outs let's give him the No 9 shirt ??.

al&co wrote:
Please accept my apologies everybody!

I did say in my earlier post that Hanson played a big part in our first goal and that was wrong - my mistake - it was the second goal as has been correctly pointed out.

I do try and post accurately and consructively but I had a senior moment - easily done at my age.

I consider myself suiable chastised and will try and do better in future!

nowt fresh wrote:
After watching the goals on FLS it showed that Hanson has no input in Wells first goal so I apologise to you Waynus1971 for taking al&co account of the first goal, as I said at the time he was at the game but he got the assist the wrong way round which he has also apologised for.

Whoisevans? wrote:
I cannot understand why Hanson get so much stick on here by so called fans. It takes a lot out of a players legs when they have to run to every ball that is put in the air. I would doubt that any that are critical of Hanson have ever played as a center forward it is a difficult thankless job they do a lot of donkey work up front that takes the strain off other players legs. I would defy anyone to go through the work load Hanson does and still have enough energy to shoot maybe that is why he doesn't like taking penalties?

Waynus1971 wrote:

nowt fresh wrote: After watching the goals on FLS it showed that Hanson has no input in Wells first goal so I apologise to you Waynus1971 for taking al&co account of the first goal, as I said at the time he was at the game but he got the assist the wrong way round which he has also apologised for.

I don't believe I did 'take him to account'. If u mean I corrected him to make my point to you, then fair enough. That said, according to Lonnie, Hanson should be claiming an assist for both goals. Hanson won the flick on for the first and their defender made a big mistake on the half way line, allowing Wells to run through and score. When Hanson headed that ball, he was 10-15yds inside his own half, yet Lonnie is seriously crediting him with the assist? On an aside, when watching the footage of our 2nd goal, were we (Hanson) very fortunate? Forsyth wins the header, Hanson and their defender both jump to challenge. Hanson (for once) can't get his head to it and it hits their defender on the shoulder. Luckily for us, it falls to Hanson who gets a shot in on goal, the keeper parries and Wells scores from the rebound. Hanson clearly jumped to win that header, had he connected, where would it have gone, because there were no City players waiting for the flick-on?

nowt fresh wrote:
And how many windows were open did you see, hopefuly later on in the week would be a better time to pick our tickets up when the mad rush is over.

tyker2 wrote:
waynus :I don't recall saying Hanson would knck it over the stand. I was talking about the high net at one end of the ground but, nevermind that, just accept he is the best centre forward we have had on the books for many a year and,at present, those brought in to challenge have fallen by the wayside. i agree he could score more goals himself but I ,for one, are more than happy with his contribution to the team effort

I know he holds you in the same regard as you hold him. So let be the end of it!

Waynus1971 wrote:

Whoisevans? wrote:
I cannot understand why Hanson get so much stick on here by so called fans. It takes a lot out of a players legs when they have to run to every ball that is put in the air. I would doubt that any that are critical of Hanson have ever played as a center forward it is a difficult thankless job they do a lot of donkey work up front that takes the strain off other players legs. I would defy anyone to go through the work load Hanson does and still have enough energy to shoot maybe that is why he doesn't like taking penalties?

Why are people trying to claim this is all about Hanson knocking. All has been said is that Hanson should be converting more chances than he has so far this season.

The lad himself would acknowledge this and Andrew Davies has already said something similar. Nobody is knocking what he does bring to the team and let's be fair, he is very good at what he does. However, despite claims by some on here that he isn't here to score goals, he has in the past and needs to again.

One final point. Northampton are struggling but their target man constantly puts his body where it hurts. He may not be quite as effective and mobile as Hanson, but he is their target man all the same. How many times has he scored? His hattrick this weekend was very good and his diving header was top notch.

All we want is for Hanson to get on the end more and start taking some of his chances. THIS IS NOT THE SAME AS HANSON KNOCKING...'

Waynus1971 wrote:

Whoisevans? wrote:
I cannot understand why Hanson get so much stick on here by so called fans. It takes a lot out of a players legs when they have to run to every ball that is put in the air. I would doubt that any that are critical of Hanson have ever played as a center forward it is a difficult thankless job they do a lot of donkey work up front that takes the strain off other players legs. I would defy anyone to go through the work load Hanson does and still have enough energy to shoot maybe that is why he doesn't like taking penalties?

Why are people trying to claim this is all about Hanson knocking. All has been said is that Hanson should be converting more chances than he has so far this season.

The lad himself would acknowledge this and Andrew Davies has already said something similar. Nobody is knocking what he does bring to the team and let's be fair, he is very good at what he does. However, despite claims by some on here that he isn't here to score goals, he has in the past and needs to again.

One final point. Northampton are struggling but their target man constantly puts his body where it hurts. He may not be quite as effective and mobile as Hanson, but he is their target man all the same. How many times has he scored? His hattrick this weekend was very good and his diving header was top notch.

All we want is for Hanson to get on the end more and start taking some of his chances. THIS IS NOT THE SAME AS HANSON KNOCKING...'

Waynus1971 wrote:

nowt fresh wrote:
After watching the goals on FLS it showed that Hanson has no input in Wells first goal so I apologise to you Waynus1971 for taking al&co account of the first goal, as I said at the time he was at the game but he got the assist the wrong way round which he has also apologised for.

I don't believe I did 'take him to account'. If u mean I corrected him to make my point to you, then fair enough.

That said, according to Lonnie, Hanson should be claiming an assist for both goals. Hanson won the flick on for the first and their defender made a big mistake on the half way line, allowing Wells to run through and score. When Hanson headed that ball, he was 10-15yds inside his own half, yet Lonnie is seriously crediting him with the assist?

On an aside, when watching the footage of our 2nd goal, were we (Hanson) very fortunate? Forsyth wins the header, Hanson and their defender both jump to challenge. Hanson (for once) can't get his head to it and it hits their defender on the shoulder. Luckily for us, it falls to Hanson who gets a shot in on goal, the keeper parries and Wells scores from the rebound. Hanson clearly jumped to win that header, had he connected, where would it have gone, because there were no City players waiting for the flick-on?

lonniejockstrap wrote:

Waynus1971 wrote:

nowt fresh wrote: After watching the goals on FLS it showed that Hanson has no input in Wells first goal so I apologise to you Waynus1971 for taking al&co account of the first goal, as I said at the time he was at the game but he got the assist the wrong way round which he has also apologised for.

I don't believe I did 'take him to account'. If u mean I corrected him to make my point to you, then fair enough. That said, according to Lonnie, Hanson should be claiming an assist for both goals. Hanson won the flick on for the first and their defender made a big mistake on the half way line, allowing Wells to run through and score. When Hanson headed that ball, he was 10-15yds inside his own half, yet Lonnie is seriously crediting him with the assist? On an aside, when watching the footage of our 2nd goal, were we (Hanson) very fortunate? Forsyth wins the header, Hanson and their defender both jump to challenge. Hanson (for once) can't get his head to it and it hits their defender on the shoulder. Luckily for us, it falls to Hanson who gets a shot in on goal, the keeper parries and Wells scores from the rebound. Hanson clearly jumped to win that header, had he connected, where would it have gone, because there were no City players waiting for the flick-on?

OK waynus tell me how Nahki would have got his first goal if Hanson hadn't have won his header. Can you seriously not see how Hanson contributed to this goal? If it makes you happier to not class it as officially 'an assist' then I'll let you have your bit of joy. But all it does is show how hard you are trying to take away the impact Hanson has on the game. Even for the second goal you try to make out that Hanson was lucky he didn't win the header rather than give him credit for stopping the defender from having an easy clearance. So, we have a situation where Hanson helps to cause two mistakes by Aldershot defenders that results in two goals for us and you don't want to give any credit for that to Hanson. Can you see why some people arrive at the conclusion that you have a little something against him?

nowt fresh wrote:

lonniejockstrap wrote:

Waynus1971 wrote:

nowt fresh wrote: After watching the goals on FLS it showed that Hanson has no input in Wells first goal so I apologise to you Waynus1971 for taking al&co account of the first goal, as I said at the time he was at the game but he got the assist the wrong way round which he has also apologised for.

I don't believe I did 'take him to account'. If u mean I corrected him to make my point to you, then fair enough. That said, according to Lonnie, Hanson should be claiming an assist for both goals. Hanson won the flick on for the first and their defender made a big mistake on the half way line, allowing Wells to run through and score. When Hanson headed that ball, he was 10-15yds inside his own half, yet Lonnie is seriously crediting him with the assist? On an aside, when watching the footage of our 2nd goal, were we (Hanson) very fortunate? Forsyth wins the header, Hanson and their defender both jump to challenge. Hanson (for once) can't get his head to it and it hits their defender on the shoulder. Luckily for us, it falls to Hanson who gets a shot in on goal, the keeper parries and Wells scores from the rebound. Hanson clearly jumped to win that header, had he connected, where would it have gone, because there were no City players waiting for the flick-on?

OK waynus tell me how Nahki would have got his first goal if Hanson hadn't have won his header. Can you seriously not see how Hanson contributed to this goal? If it makes you happier to not class it as officially 'an assist' then I'll let you have your bit of joy. But all it does is show how hard you are trying to take away the impact Hanson has on the game. Even for the second goal you try to make out that Hanson was lucky he didn't win the header rather than give him credit for stopping the defender from having an easy clearance. So, we have a situation where Hanson helps to cause two mistakes by Aldershot defenders that results in two goals for us and you don't want to give any credit for that to Hanson. Can you see why some people arrive at the conclusion that you have a little something against him?

There used to be a poster on the City fans forum called "ParkBantam" who was similar with his analysis of what constituted an assist especially when it was Hanson !!.

Waynus1971 wrote:

nowt fresh wrote:

lonniejockstrap wrote:

Waynus1971 wrote:

nowt fresh wrote: After watching the goals on FLS it showed that Hanson has no input in Wells first goal so I apologise to you Waynus1971 for taking al&co account of the first goal, as I said at the time he was at the game but he got the assist the wrong way round which he has also apologised for.

I don't believe I did 'take him to account'. If u mean I corrected him to make my point to you, then fair enough. That said, according to Lonnie, Hanson should be claiming an assist for both goals. Hanson won the flick on for the first and their defender made a big mistake on the half way line, allowing Wells to run through and score. When Hanson headed that ball, he was 10-15yds inside his own half, yet Lonnie is seriously crediting him with the assist? On an aside, when watching the footage of our 2nd goal, were we (Hanson) very fortunate? Forsyth wins the header, Hanson and their defender both jump to challenge. Hanson (for once) can't get his head to it and it hits their defender on the shoulder. Luckily for us, it falls to Hanson who gets a shot in on goal, the keeper parries and Wells scores from the rebound. Hanson clearly jumped to win that header, had he connected, where would it have gone, because there were no City players waiting for the flick-on?

OK waynus tell me how Nahki would have got his first goal if Hanson hadn't have won his header. Can you seriously not see how Hanson contributed to this goal? If it makes you happier to not class it as officially 'an assist' then I'll let you have your bit of joy. But all it does is show how hard you are trying to take away the impact Hanson has on the game. Even for the second goal you try to make out that Hanson was lucky he didn't win the header rather than give him credit for stopping the defender from having an easy clearance. So, we have a situation where Hanson helps to cause two mistakes by Aldershot defenders that results in two goals for us and you don't want to give any credit for that to Hanson. Can you see why some people arrive at the conclusion that you have a little something against him?

There used to be a poster on the City fans forum called "ParkBantam" who was similar with his analysis of what constituted an assist especially when it was Hanson !!.

And your point is? I'm not "parkbantam", so I'm not sure what you are saying. However, in relation to the 'assist', you, yourself admitted it wasn't (after watching it on TV - you even gave me an apology). But, now that Lonnie is saying it was, you are turning against me again. Bizarre...! Of course it can be considered an assist. However, I note that the official table only includes one from the weekend. Was that attributed to the first goal or the one where Hanson actually helped us score from his saved shot? Hanson headed the ball, some 10-15yds inside his own half. The ball dropped just inside their half and their defender made an hash of it. Wells then had to run some 50+ yards to score. No, had Hanson not made the header, Wells would not have had the opportunity, but you could say that for every punt up field by our keeper and/or defenders. If Duke punts the ball up field looking for Hanson and both he and the defender marking him miss it and it falls to Wells instead, who scores, who gets the assist? Duke for punting it 80yds up field or Hanson for 'putting pressure on their defender, resulting in him missing the ball' and allowing Wells with an opportunity to score? I'm not being argumentative on this, I really would like to know who would get the assist (if anyone).

lonniejockstrap wrote:

Waynus1971 wrote:

nowt fresh wrote: After watching the goals on FLS it showed that Hanson has no input in Wells first goal so I apologise to you Waynus1971 for taking al&co account of the first goal, as I said at the time he was at the game but he got the assist the wrong way round which he has also apologised for.

I don't believe I did 'take him to account'. If u mean I corrected him to make my point to you, then fair enough. That said, according to Lonnie, Hanson should be claiming an assist for both goals. Hanson won the flick on for the first and their defender made a big mistake on the half way line, allowing Wells to run through and score. When Hanson headed that ball, he was 10-15yds inside his own half, yet Lonnie is seriously crediting him with the assist? On an aside, when watching the footage of our 2nd goal, were we (Hanson) very fortunate? Forsyth wins the header, Hanson and their defender both jump to challenge. Hanson (for once) can't get his head to it and it hits their defender on the shoulder. Luckily for us, it falls to Hanson who gets a shot in on goal, the keeper parries and Wells scores from the rebound. Hanson clearly jumped to win that header, had he connected, where would it have gone, because there were no City players waiting for the flick-on?

OK waynus tell me how Nahki would have got his first goal if Hanson hadn't have won his header. Can you seriously not see how Hanson contributed to this goal? If it makes you happier to not class it as officially 'an assist' then I'll let you have your bit of joy. But all it does is show how hard you are trying to take away the impact Hanson has on the game. Even for the second goal you try to make out that Hanson was lucky he didn't win the header rather than give him credit for stopping the defender from having an easy clearance. So, we have a situation where Hanson helps to cause two mistakes by Aldershot defenders that results in two goals for us and you don't want to give any credit for that to Hanson. Can you see why some people arrive at the conclusion that you have a little something against him?