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Bradford City see red as ref D’Urso comes under scrutiny (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)
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Bradford City see red as ref Andy D’Urso comes under scrutiny
6:40am Monday 29th October 2012 in Bantams
By Simon Parker, Bradford City Reporter
Rory McArdle sweeps up to deny Burton an opening
Burton 1, City 0
It is 12 years since Andy D’Urso was famously chased by an angry Manchester United posse after daring to award a penalty against them at Old Trafford.
The sight of a snarling Roy Keane and five team-mates corralling the referee became an iconic image of player power gone mad.
D’Urso was lucky not to come under similar attack from City on Saturday after the incident which swung the match irretrievably against them.
It was the sort of big call that could have ended up with him being cornered by half of West Yorkshire.
D’Urso’s decision to banish Ricky Ravenhill for a phantom head butt following a shocking over-reaction by Burton’s Lee Bell left the visitors every bit as angry as Keane and his cohorts that day.
The fact that City managed to last until the final nine minutes before gifting the hosts a self-inflicted goal did nothing to improve the mood afterwards.
But Phil Parkinson, desperately treading on egg shells with his words, had sensed what might happen when he saw the Billericay official was down to take charge.
Parkinson clearly felt it was a case of a referee feeling the game was beneath him.
“I’ve had times with Andy D’Urso before and occasions when Premier League referees come down to this level,” he said.
“It’s cold, there are only 2,000 people there and the officials weren’t communicating at all throughout the game. It’s almost as if they didn’t want to be there.
“It’s probably difficult for them; a bit like a Premiership player coming down. You’ve got that feel about the officials. But that’s all I want to say because I don’t want to get in trouble.”
Parkinson had plenty to say about the way Bell had reacted – or “cheated”, in the manager’s words – to his contretemps with Ravenhill.
Bell hardly endeared himself later with a daft comment on Twitter, saying: “(I) went down like a girl, very poor from me. But it’s been a long time coming.”
Parkinson was equally scathing about home defender Nathan Stanton for gesturing to the large away following once the game had finished. He declined to shake hands afterwards, instead wagging an angry finger in the centre half’s face before reporting what had happened to safety officials.
Those unsavoury moments left a bad enough taste in the mouth for the manager and City fans. But confirmation that absolutely nothing went their way came with the injuries to not just one but both centre halves.
If there are two players who have been irreplaceable on Parkinson’s team sheet in the past year, it’s Luke Oliver and Andrew Davies. City had to play the second half on Saturday without both – and look like missing them for a fair while yet.
Davies’ twisted knee has certainly put the kybosh on his hopes of facing Wigan tomorrow night. If the ligaments have gone, he could be looking at a month out.
The initial fear with Oliver is that his Achilles injury is worse. Suddenly, in one fell swoop, the two rock-solid foundations of City’s back four have been knocked away.
Halloween may not be until Wednesday but it has come early for Parkinson ten times over. The team bus must have run over a family of black cats on its way to the Pirelli Stadium.
Carl McHugh was thrust into unexpected action alongside Rory McArdle and did an excellent containing job for 45 minutes. But it will be a huge ask for the Irish teenager to be pressed into combat as a regular starter until one of the main men is fit to resume.
At the other end of the scale, Parkinson would not have hurried Gary Jones back into the firing line so soon after his back injury. But needs must with Ravenhill’s three-game ban for supposed violent conduct.
So a week that had looked so promising with wins over Cheltenham and Northampton – one the reward for patience and never giving in, the other a model in away-day discipline – ended with a massive shock to the collective system.
The biggest fear about City’s quality over quantity policy with the squad numbers was injuries stacking up all at once. To lose two huge players – in the same position – is a hammer blow.
The game was no great spectacle. The fact the Bantams got within touching distance of what would have been a memorable point says all you need to know about the combined attacking capabilities.
City’s only shot on target came with a full quota of players, Nathan Doyle’s well-struck volley flying straight at Burton loan keeper Mark Oxley. Otherwise the home debutant spent the rest of the afternoon shivering in the bitter wintry wind.
Jon McLaughlin was not much busier at the other end, even with inferior numbers in front of him for so long.
He made one good block from Zola after Jacques Maghoma’s cross-shot came back off the bar. That apart, Burton could not pick their way through the wall of voltage cherry.
From the moment that Bell and Ravenhill squared up – and Bell fell like he had been downed by a sniper – the contest became one of attack versus defence.
Alan Connell, who must feel the most jinxed man of the lot at Valley Parade, was sacrificed in the post-Ravenhill reshuffle to leave James Hanson in a lonely role up top.
With the rest of the team stuck in two rigid banks of four to protect the clean sheet, Hanson was left isolated to run and chase in vain for the slightest sniff of an opening. He did the job manfully but inevitably it meant little cutting edge.
The question was whether City could follow Rochdale’s lead from a month ago and survive intact with a man down for so long.
Burton’s frustration seemed to build with every scoreless minute. Without a win from their previous four games, they could see the opportunity slipping away.
Then City undid all their hard work for them. Thompson delayed fatally as Stanton clipped a ball over the top and McLaughlin got caught in two minds whether to come for it or not.
Damien McCrory seized on their indecision to get between the pair and drill a pass across the gaping goal. Zola threw himself to bury it and that was the game done.
Parkinson admitted: “We deserved a point for our efforts. I thought we were terrific with ten men but then conceded a sloppy goal.
“If we’d lost to a bit of skill or a good finish, you’d accept it. But we gave them that goal. One of them has got to take control of the situation.
“Nothing much more could have gone against us by half-time but the lads worked so hard.”
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Comments(25)
spleen ventor
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8:07am Mon 29 Oct 12
silverbantam wrote:So their guy admitting he cheated on "twatter" get's away with it...disgusting!...M
“@WYSDaily: @bbcleeds sport headlines: #bcafc will not appeal Ricky Ravenhill's sending off in the game against Burton because of a lack of evidence.”
r Moyes is right, the cheats will drive people away from the game.
As for Mr D'Urso....the man's a cretin and not fit to ref girls U'9s on a Sunday morning, does he ever look at himself in the mirror and wonder why he now finds himself blundering about in League Two?
...It's because it's not only us fans who thinks he's $hite...it's his employers too.
Freddy
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8:58am Mon 29 Oct 12
I do not understand City's non appeal " Because of the lack of evidence ???!!"
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Surely there is recorded camera evidence?. Plus the admission of 'Guilt' from a Lee BELL -Ding Dong-you PONG!!!. Cheating , deceiving -so termed Players like the ' Cracked Bell '
are a disgrace to the race-the human race!!.
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Surely -Parky will report D'Urso-and Stanton, and Bell The Smell!!!--What a PONG from DING DONG.-he should be strung up, and placed " Merrily on High!! "
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Whilst there are terrible/hopeless/ly
ing /disgraceful/CHEATS like PONG DINGER BELL. Football will be tarnished, and tarred, with an irrevocable bad name, amongst the people of Britain-nay the World.
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The useless FA ( F**K ALL ) , have not, and will never get off their obese buts, and start to sort out these bad,bad, bad aspects of Football today.DEAL HARSHLY WITH THESE CHEATS THAT GIVE FOOTBALL A BAD NAME. "KICK THEM OUT"- ALONG WITH THE RACIST RABBLE!!!!!!
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We will have to wait now until Saturday APRIL 20 for the HOME Match against BURTON--Who we will send them away as--" GONE FOR A BURTON "-Dead!!.
We will be waiting for 'Bell the Smell' and 'Rant-on Stanton'--if they DARE play!!. Plus I doubt very much that D'Urso will ever dare to even think of Officiating at Bradford City. I DARE YOU D'URSO???
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With the Wigan Match on tomorrow--I hope as many City Supporters as possible, turn up at their ground. To show the Tremendous Resolve that Bradford City and their Supporters possess.
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TirNaNog
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9:02am Mon 29 Oct 12
Rambo
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9:18am Mon 29 Oct 12
Freddy wrote:The problem with the footage is that it does show Ravenhill moving his head. Not that it actually connects with Bell - if it was perfectly side on (like the Lafferty "headbutt" incident at Rangers) it would be much more clearer.
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I do not understand City's non appeal " Because of the lack of evidence ???!!"
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Surely there is recorded camera evidence?. Plus the admission of 'Guilt' from a Lee BELL -Ding Dong-you PONG!!!. Cheating , deceiving -so termed Players like the ' Cracked Bell '
are a disgrace to the race-the human race!!.
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Surely -Parky will report D'Urso-and Stanton, and Bell The Smell!!!--What a PONG from DING DONG.-he should be strung up, and placed " Merrily on High!! "
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Whilst there are terrible/hopeless/ly
ing /disgraceful/CHEATS like PONG DINGER BELL. Football will be tarnished, and tarred, with an irrevocable bad name, amongst the people of Britain-nay the World.
*
The useless FA ( F**K ALL ) , have not, and will never get off their obese buts, and start to sort out these bad,bad, bad aspects of Football today.DEAL HARSHLY WITH THESE CHEATS THAT GIVE FOOTBALL A BAD NAME. "KICK THEM OUT"- ALONG WITH THE RACIST RABBLE!!!!!!
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We will have to wait now until Saturday APRIL 20 for the HOME Match against BURTON--Who we will send them away as--" GONE FOR A BURTON "-Dead!!.
We will be waiting for 'Bell the Smell' and 'Rant-on Stanton'--if they DARE play!!. Plus I doubt very much that D'Urso will ever dare to even think of Officiating at Bradford City. I DARE YOU D'URSO???
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With the Wigan Match on tomorrow--I hope as many City Supporters as possible, turn up at their ground. To show the Tremendous Resolve that Bradford City and their Supporters possess.
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Their man does throw himself to the floor in a ridiculous manner and has admitted to it. But nothing will happen as like you said, the FA and UEFA are totally useless and worthless in these situations.
Totally agree with TriNaNog as well. I've suggested to the club they put a complaint in about Bells comments as it implies he deliberately tried to get RR sent off. And also the fact that I'm getting fed up of travelling around the country pi**ing my money away to see untalented cheats like Bell and atrocious referees like Durso be a primary factor is losing and ruining football games.
Thee Voice of Reason
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9:21am Mon 29 Oct 12
From what I head City were second best all day long and long before the sending off.
A bad day at the office but we have 2 cup games now to move on and put it behind us.
You can't win them all.
BD16
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9:27am Mon 29 Oct 12
This is the sort of thing that makes rugby fans laugh at football and we don't need it in our game.
Rambo
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9:50am Mon 29 Oct 12
BD16 wrote:Its embarrassing to try and defend my sport at times like this.
There should be three people getting a three game ban. Ravenhill for being daft enough to be drawn into that situation. Bell for the pathetic over reaction and D'Urso for being too inept too spot it.
This is the sort of thing that makes rugby fans laugh at football and we don't need it in our game.
Its all well and good as football fans coming out with over used phrases to over analyse obvious situations. Basically where an instigator only has to breathe on someone and that can be justification to send him off, while they themselves are virtually free from any sort of action.
If you showed footage of the RR sending off, the Suarez dive or any other act of cheating where the cheater blatantly gets away with what they're doing and can influence a ref in the process, a complete sporting neutral would wonder what the hells going on.
I mean, for gods sake, if I showed the Burton footage to someone who's not into football they would laugh at how bad Bells reaction was. Then would probably be shocked to see RR actually got sent off for it.
al&co
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10:00am Mon 29 Oct 12
Ravenhill was foolish to gesture with his head,evn if it was a minor gesture. He should be better than that.
I was at the match and Bell's behaviour was a disgrace when he went down and subsequently by his admission on twitter - he has clearly brought the game into disrepute and players have been punished for less.
Supporters from all over will not forget Bell and he will always be known as the cheat that he is.
The injuries to Oliver and Davies are a real blow and we face a difficult few weeks.
Sadly, however, we have to be honest enough to admit that we played very poorly from the off at Burton - our inability to keep the ball was very disappointing after recent perormances and this lack of consistency is a worry when thinking in terms of our team being a realistic contender for an automatic pomotion spot.
We will need to get right behind the team in the tough times ahead. Much will depend on the spirit and the work ethic of the players as we endavour to keep in tough with the pace setters.
Be positive and go for it boys!
bcfc1903
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12:07pm Mon 29 Oct 12
Whoisevans?
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12:16pm Mon 29 Oct 12
Whoisevans?
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12:24pm Mon 29 Oct 12
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:I agree to some point but you would expect a fellow pro to behave like a professional. know what you mean but haven't you even reacted and then stopped before the red mist descends. I know I have.
No one but Ravenhill is to blame for this, he put his head where he shouldn't and the opposition player made the most of it, you shouldn't put yourself in that position in the first place or your asking for trouble.
From what I head City were second best all day long and long before the sending off.
A bad day at the office but we have 2 cup games now to move on and put it behind us.
You can't win them all.
Whoisevans?
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12:28pm Mon 29 Oct 12
Wanna Have
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12:36pm Mon 29 Oct 12
The lad from Burton, appeared to try to do one of yours earlier in the in move so Ravenhill went for him with a little more gusto as to be expected and the Burton lad did not hold back, a typical centre mid 50/50.
For the Burton player to comedy fall like that and then get straight up with no blood etc, why don't officials check the "injured" players for evidence of contact.
If you'd been headbutted you'd have a mark on you.
I feel for the supporters of BCFC paying good money to travel and watch this charade, which would have ruined the game, I'd say enough is enough and stop watching it.We're expecting this from Docaster on Saturday, will be a culture shock as thankfully they still allow contact in the non-league.
Wanna Have
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12:44pm Mon 29 Oct 12
Whoisevans? wrote:The trouble is, the fella from Burton who cheated was behaving like a pro and won his side the game.
Thee Voice of Reason wrote: No one but Ravenhill is to blame for this, he put his head where he shouldn't and the opposition player made the most of it, you shouldn't put yourself in that position in the first place or your asking for trouble. From what I head City were second best all day long and long before the sending off. A bad day at the office but we have 2 cup games now to move on and put it behind us. You can't win them all.I agree to some point but you would expect a fellow pro to behave like a professional. know what you mean but haven't you even reacted and then stopped before the red mist descends. I know I have.
Just as Man Utd have set the standard on this over the years.
The laws of the game need changing, we want a contact sport back.
If FIFA/UEFA S don't like it let's have English rules football where you have to be judged to be likely to cause injury before being sent off.
How many of these faller downers are actually unable to continue playing through injury, why don't the FA do something useful for a change and produce stats on this and then take the approiate action so we can judge which teams cheat the most.
macca1969
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1:11pm Mon 29 Oct 12
TirNaNog wrote:Maybe because Pullis and Moyes both condone cheating when it is their own players cheating. Did he discipline Crouch for deliberate handball to score a goal or condemn him NO. Did Moyes Mention or condemn Neville yesterday for a dive yesterday that resulted in a booking, NO. All managers are happy with the cheating as long as it's in favour of their team. Parky never complained last year when Devitt was diving left right and centre for penalties.
No one is listening to Moyes or Pulis though. They should be! It is exactly what is putting me off the game. Not the cheating per se but the fact the governing body refuse to acknowledge it. Why should fans pay out good money for tickets and petrol only to be cheated by pub footballers and 4th rate referees? Lee Bell is a CHEAT! He has openly admitted he is a CHEAT but the card will still stand, the FA will still back D'Urso and the fans will still be short-changed. Who are the mugs here?
I agree it needs stamping out but how? Torres was wrongly sent off yesterday for a dive when he was in all fairness kicked when running at pace. Fergie was happy saying he was clipped but went down too easily, would he say that if the boot was on the other foot and say Rooney or Van Persie was wrongly accused of diving resulting in defeat and a sending off? We all no the answer to that.
Ravenhill was stupid to give the ref a decision to make, he could have squared up pushing his chest out and not his head. I still think Ricky should be fined as his actions have cost city a chance of some points and were far more serious than Wells celebrating with his own fans, with some [posters wanting Wells punished.
macca1969
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1:12pm Mon 29 Oct 12
macca1969 wrote:Derrr know the answer not no derr
TirNaNog wrote:Maybe because Pullis and Moyes both condone cheating when it is their own players cheating. Did he discipline Crouch for deliberate handball to score a goal or condemn him NO. Did Moyes Mention or condemn Neville yesterday for a dive yesterday that resulted in a booking, NO. All managers are happy with the cheating as long as it's in favour of their team. Parky never complained last year when Devitt was diving left right and centre for penalties.
No one is listening to Moyes or Pulis though. They should be! It is exactly what is putting me off the game. Not the cheating per se but the fact the governing body refuse to acknowledge it. Why should fans pay out good money for tickets and petrol only to be cheated by pub footballers and 4th rate referees? Lee Bell is a CHEAT! He has openly admitted he is a CHEAT but the card will still stand, the FA will still back D'Urso and the fans will still be short-changed. Who are the mugs here?
I agree it needs stamping out but how? Torres was wrongly sent off yesterday for a dive when he was in all fairness kicked when running at pace. Fergie was happy saying he was clipped but went down too easily, would he say that if the boot was on the other foot and say Rooney or Van Persie was wrongly accused of diving resulting in defeat and a sending off? We all no the answer to that.
Ravenhill was stupid to give the ref a decision to make, he could have squared up pushing his chest out and not his head. I still think Ricky should be fined as his actions have cost city a chance of some points and were far more serious than Wells celebrating with his own fans, with some
macca1969
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1:13pm Mon 29 Oct 12
macca1969 wrote:Derrr know the answer not no derr
TirNaNog wrote:Maybe because Pullis and Moyes both condone cheating when it is their own players cheating. Did he discipline Crouch for deliberate handball to score a goal or condemn him NO. Did Moyes Mention or condemn Neville yesterday for a dive yesterday that resulted in a booking, NO. All managers are happy with the cheating as long as it's in favour of their team. Parky never complained last year when Devitt was diving left right and centre for penalties.
No one is listening to Moyes or Pulis though. They should be! It is exactly what is putting me off the game. Not the cheating per se but the fact the governing body refuse to acknowledge it. Why should fans pay out good money for tickets and petrol only to be cheated by pub footballers and 4th rate referees? Lee Bell is a CHEAT! He has openly admitted he is a CHEAT but the card will still stand, the FA will still back D'Urso and the fans will still be short-changed. Who are the mugs here?
I agree it needs stamping out but how? Torres was wrongly sent off yesterday for a dive when he was in all fairness kicked when running at pace. Fergie was happy saying he was clipped but went down too easily, would he say that if the boot was on the other foot and say Rooney or Van Persie was wrongly accused of diving resulting in defeat and a sending off? We all no the answer to that.
Ravenhill was stupid to give the ref a decision to make, he could have squared up pushing his chest out and not his head. I still think Ricky should be fined as his actions have cost city a chance of some points and were far more serious than Wells celebrating with his own fans, with some
Freddy
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1:18pm Mon 29 Oct 12
Thee Voice of Reason says...
9:21am Mon 29 Oct 12
No one but Ravenhill is to blame for this, he put his head where he shouldn't and the opposition player made the most of it, you shouldn't put yourself in that position in the first place or your asking for trouble.
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ARE YOU FOR REAL???--DO YOU SUPPORT BRADFORD CITY FOOTBALL CLUB- AND MOST OF ALL THE PLAYERS????????.
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Do you belong to The Referees Association ??.( D'URSO's AGENT??)
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It would be most useful if you took your comment, and shoved it as far as it will go, up your BOF place, where the Sun will NEVER shine on you.
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Go to 'WEEDS' or 'Man U'--or join another organisation--ANY ORGANISATION - BUTNOT BCFC!!!.
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macca1969
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1:28pm Mon 29 Oct 12
Freddy wrote:Freddy i like and enjoy your posts but on this you are wrong. I agree Ravenhill did not make contact but his actions still put himself in a situation that made the ref have a decision to make. I would like to see the Burton player brought to task for his gamesmanship and also D'urso for his appalling lack of ability to do his job, this though does not excuse Ricky for letting his team, fans and club down.
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Thee Voice of Reason says...
9:21am Mon 29 Oct 12
No one but Ravenhill is to blame for this, he put his head where he shouldn't and the opposition player made the most of it, you shouldn't put yourself in that position in the first place or your asking for trouble.
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ARE YOU FOR REAL???--DO YOU SUPPORT BRADFORD CITY FOOTBALL CLUB- AND MOST OF ALL THE PLAYERS????????.
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Do you belong to The Referees Association ??.( D'URSO's AGENT??)
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It would be most useful if you took your comment, and shoved it as far as it will go, up your BOF place, where the Sun will NEVER shine on you.
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Go to 'WEEDS' or 'Man U'--or join another organisation--ANY ORGANISATION - BUTNOT BCFC!!!.
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Prisoner Cell Block A
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1:34pm Mon 29 Oct 12
As for being 2nd best prior to the red card, yep, agree with that too. We didn't keep possession and we had no answer to Burton breaking at us time and again. Maybe this was a game Will Atkinson would have fitted in well if we hadn't been cursed with ill fortune re the CHs.
Thee Voice of Reason
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1:37pm Mon 29 Oct 12
Freddy wrote:Freddy, you really haven't a clue have you.
* Thee Voice of Reason says... 9:21am Mon 29 Oct 12 No one but Ravenhill is to blame for this, he put his head where he shouldn't and the opposition player made the most of it, you shouldn't put yourself in that position in the first place or your asking for trouble. * ARE YOU FOR REAL???--DO YOU SUPPORT BRADFORD CITY FOOTBALL CLUB- AND MOST OF ALL THE PLAYERS????????. * Do you belong to The Referees Association ??.( D'URSO's AGENT??) * It would be most useful if you took your comment, and shoved it as far as it will go, up your BOF place, where the Sun will NEVER shine on you. * Go to 'WEEDS' or 'Man U'--or join another organisation--ANY ORGANISATION - BUTNOT BCFC!!!. *
Your posts are a joke and are like the rambling of a madman.
I support City but I tend to comment without rose tinted specs. Have you even seen the incident or are you spouting on about something you haven't even seen.
Wanna Have
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1:42pm Mon 29 Oct 12
macca1969 wrote:Oi you, don't you be putting your head towards his are you keen on him ?
Freddy wrote:Freddy i like and enjoy your posts but on this you are wrong. I agree Ravenhill did not make contact but his actions still put himself in a situation that made the ref have a decision to make. I would like to see the Burton player brought to task for his gamesmanship and also D'urso for his appalling lack of ability to do his job, this though does not excuse Ricky for letting his team, fans and club down.
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Thee Voice of Reason says...
9:21am Mon 29 Oct 12
No one but Ravenhill is to blame for this, he put his head where he shouldn't and the opposition player made the most of it, you shouldn't put yourself in that position in the first place or your asking for trouble.
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ARE YOU FOR REAL???--DO YOU SUPPORT BRADFORD CITY FOOTBALL CLUB- AND MOST OF ALL THE PLAYERS????????.
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Do you belong to The Referees Association ??.( D'URSO's AGENT??)
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It would be most useful if you took your comment, and shoved it as far as it will go, up your BOF place, where the Sun will NEVER shine on you.
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Go to 'WEEDS' or 'Man U'--or join another organisation--ANY ORGANISATION - BUTNOT BCFC!!!.
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And you get off the floor the pitch is fine no need to inspect it.
BTW lads take up my time again and I'll be showing the both of you a yellow, I've got a football game to referee and the paying public did not watch turn up to watch you two behaving like nancy's.
BD16
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2:14pm Mon 29 Oct 12
Wanna Have wrote:That would have been a good bit of refereeing. Shame common sense doesn't prevail.
macca1969 wrote:Oi you, don't you be putting your head towards his are you keen on him ? And you get off the floor the pitch is fine no need to inspect it. BTW lads take up my time again and I'll be showing the both of you a yellow, I've got a football game to referee and the paying public did not watch turn up to watch you two behaving like nancy's.Freddy wrote: * Thee Voice of Reason says... 9:21am Mon 29 Oct 12 No one but Ravenhill is to blame for this, he put his head where he shouldn't and the opposition player made the most of it, you shouldn't put yourself in that position in the first place or your asking for trouble. * ARE YOU FOR REAL???--DO YOU SUPPORT BRADFORD CITY FOOTBALL CLUB- AND MOST OF ALL THE PLAYERS????????. * Do you belong to The Referees Association ??.( D'URSO's AGENT??) * It would be most useful if you took your comment, and shoved it as far as it will go, up your BOF place, where the Sun will NEVER shine on you. * Go to 'WEEDS' or 'Man U'--or join another organisation--ANY ORGANISATION - BUTNOT BCFC!!!. *Freddy i like and enjoy your posts but on this you are wrong. I agree Ravenhill did not make contact but his actions still put himself in a situation that made the ref have a decision to make. I would like to see the Burton player brought to task for his gamesmanship and also D'urso for his appalling lack of ability to do his job, this though does not excuse Ricky for letting his team, fans and club down.
Prisoner Cell Block A
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2:22pm Mon 29 Oct 12
silverbantam says...
7:53am Mon 29 Oct 12