Councillors approve alcohol sales at Horsfall Stadium

Avenue's Bob Blackburn Avenue's Bob Blackburn

Bradford Park Avenue Football Club has retained its licence to sell alcohol despite accusations from the police of drunken disorder and supporters taking glass bottles into the grounds.

However, a string of extra conditions have been placed on the licence which must be introduced at Horsfall Stadium, including installing a CCTV system to cover the bar and outside drinking area.

It also emerged that without a licence Park Avenue’s promotion could have been in jeopardy as a clubhouse with a bar is necessary to play in the higher division. The team’s debut in the Conference North takes place tomorrow against Worcester City at home.

During the hearing yesterday club bosses Bob Blackburn and Kevin Hainsworth disputed the police version of events, saying they were not aware of any trouble at the match in May against FC United of Manchester.

They were also not aware of any glasses or bottles leaving the bar.

Mr Hainsworth dismissed police allegations of the club putting profit before safety, describing how extra stewards had been drafted in at their expense and they also dropped the number of tickets on offer from 3,000 to 2,000.

PC Su Dawson, Bradford South police licensing officer, told the hearing she had inspected the club twice before and found breaches of the club certificate, then later the licence, following complaints that there appeared to be no control over the running of the bar.

At the play-off match she said the mood of the crowd changed as the match went into extra time so the police wanted to cut off the alcohol supply to prevent any disorder. She said Mr Hainsworth refused to close the bar voluntarily and that officers stepped in to close it down.

She accused club bosses of “failing to comprehend the seriousness of the potential for disorder”.

However, Mr Hainsworth told Bradford licensing panel: “I was very disappointed with the decision to close the bar, not from a profiteering perspective, but to me it seemed very heavy-handed and not required.”

After the hearing he said “common sense had prevailed” and the club was happy to comply with the extra conditions.

In deciding not to revoke the club’s licence, panel members warned they had serious concerns about the allegations of licence breaches and of a lack of co-operation with the police.

Councillor John Ruding , chairman of the panel, said if a review was sought again it would give serious consideration to suspending the club’s licence.

Comments(17)

Albion. says...
10:03am Fri 17 Aug 12

So they have got away with it!

Billyboyarnold says...
10:40am Fri 17 Aug 12

What have they got away with, one or two from Manchester want to cause a few problems and Avenue get the blame, get real, you obviously have never run a pub, a good decision and common sense rules. Come on you "Super Seagulls" Brighton Bill Yorkshire Seagull.

Rambo says...
10:49am Fri 17 Aug 12

Surprised he didn't blame this on City fans like he did before.

Albion. says...
11:02am Fri 17 Aug 12

Billyboyarnold wrote:
What have they got away with, one or two from Manchester want to cause a few problems and Avenue get the blame, get real, you obviously have never run a pub, a good decision and common sense rules. Come on you "Super Seagulls" Brighton Bill Yorkshire Seagull.
It isn't a pub.

Wanna Have says...
11:21am Fri 17 Aug 12

Can't see how this objection was ever heard in the first place.
Rather than objecting to BPA, I suggest the Police try to learn from the club as judging by the numbers of officers they seem to think they require to police bigger games they are failing badly.
Whenever I have been down to BPA, which is far more often than the couple of visits the police make each season, opposing supporters get along without the need for segregation, CCTV, loads of police on Overtime etc.
BPA are a model the police could learn from, instead they seem intent on punishing the club over a couple of sore losers in a crowd of 2,000, but then I do suppose they will do anything to get their CCTV systems installed.

GC BD4 says...
12:09pm Fri 17 Aug 12

did he not have dealings in a bar on the outskirts of bradford atThornbury , which operated without a licence !!!!

Billyboyarnold says...
1:32pm Fri 17 Aug 12

Albion. wrote:
Billyboyarnold wrote:
What have they got away with, one or two from Manchester want to cause a few problems and Avenue get the blame, get real, you obviously have never run a pub, a good decision and common sense rules. Come on you "Super Seagulls" Brighton Bill Yorkshire Seagull.
It isn't a pub.
I know it's not a pub but you get a couple of idiots from out of town who can't hold their drink, and the Home Club gets the blame. Brighton Bill Yorkshire Seagull. Good luck to Avenue for the coming season.

Albion. says...
2:02pm Fri 17 Aug 12

Billyboyarnold wrote:
Albion. wrote:
Billyboyarnold wrote:
What have they got away with, one or two from Manchester want to cause a few problems and Avenue get the blame, get real, you obviously have never run a pub, a good decision and common sense rules. Come on you "Super Seagulls" Brighton Bill Yorkshire Seagull.
It isn't a pub.
I know it's not a pub but you get a couple of idiots from out of town who can't hold their drink, and the Home Club gets the blame. Brighton Bill Yorkshire Seagull. Good luck to Avenue for the coming season.
It wasn't about the one incident.

parader no1 says...
4:10pm Fri 17 Aug 12

A few mindless idiots who have attached themselvs to FC United and seem hellbent of causing trouble wherever they go

Wanna Have says...
5:20pm Fri 17 Aug 12

Albion. wrote:
Billyboyarnold wrote:
Albion. wrote:
Billyboyarnold wrote:
What have they got away with, one or two from Manchester want to cause a few problems and Avenue get the blame, get real, you obviously have never run a pub, a good decision and common sense rules. Come on you "Super Seagulls" Brighton Bill Yorkshire Seagull.
It isn't a pub.
I know it's not a pub but you get a couple of idiots from out of town who can't hold their drink, and the Home Club gets the blame. Brighton Bill Yorkshire Seagull. Good luck to Avenue for the coming season.
It wasn't about the one incident.
Yes the police seemingly invented other issue's that no one else despite attending this arena far more than they do, had witnessed.
Answers on a postcard as to what these mystery issue's were.
I'm all ears ......

Albion. says...
5:31pm Fri 17 Aug 12

Wanna Have wrote:
Albion. wrote:
Billyboyarnold wrote:
Albion. wrote:
Billyboyarnold wrote:
What have they got away with, one or two from Manchester want to cause a few problems and Avenue get the blame, get real, you obviously have never run a pub, a good decision and common sense rules. Come on you "Super Seagulls" Brighton Bill Yorkshire Seagull.
It isn't a pub.
I know it's not a pub but you get a couple of idiots from out of town who can't hold their drink, and the Home Club gets the blame. Brighton Bill Yorkshire Seagull. Good luck to Avenue for the coming season.
It wasn't about the one incident.
Yes the police seemingly invented other issue's that no one else despite attending this arena far more than they do, had witnessed.
Answers on a postcard as to what these mystery issue's were.
I'm all ears ......
Are you saying that PC Dawson is a liar?

beardedclam says...
5:49pm Fri 17 Aug 12

Wanna Have wrote:
Albion. wrote:
Billyboyarnold wrote:
Albion. wrote:
Billyboyarnold wrote:
What have they got away with, one or two from Manchester want to cause a few problems and Avenue get the blame, get real, you obviously have never run a pub, a good decision and common sense rules. Come on you "Super Seagulls" Brighton Bill Yorkshire Seagull.
It isn't a pub.
I know it's not a pub but you get a couple of idiots from out of town who can't hold their drink, and the Home Club gets the blame. Brighton Bill Yorkshire Seagull. Good luck to Avenue for the coming season.
It wasn't about the one incident.
Yes the police seemingly invented other issue's that no one else despite attending this arena far more than they do, had witnessed.
Answers on a postcard as to what these mystery issue's were.
I'm all ears ......
Oblivious to the trouble going on around you more like!
Seems quite a few in the stadium turned a blind eye.

Trouble, what trouble?

BigFigure says...
9:45pm Fri 17 Aug 12

Think there's a bit more to this than meets the eye.....time will tell

trueBradfordian says...
10:36pm Fri 17 Aug 12

Considering what was at stake, the behaviour of both sets of fans was great. The FCUM fan are noisy, but they support their team. They were very dignified in defeat, and applauded the Avenue fans as they walked out. A great bunch, mostly, and I wish them well.

BPA need to keep the police onside though. They could do a lot of damage to the club's aspirations, and I would like to think that there will be more big games like this in the future. Not all fans are as dignified in defeat as FCUMs. Some clubs with much smaller away followings have been to Horsfall and caught the stewards on the hop. The club needs to be ready for these occasions.

a reasonable sort of chap says...
10:48am Sat 18 Aug 12

There should be NO alcohol allowed at any football matches anywhere. Cannabis, on the other hand, ought to be compulsory.

Albion. says...
11:17am Sat 18 Aug 12

a reasonable sort of chap wrote:
There should be NO alcohol allowed at any football matches anywhere. Cannabis, on the other hand, ought to be compulsory.
For the players?

Prisoner Cell Block A says...
12:59pm Mon 20 Aug 12

Albion. wrote:
a reasonable sort of chap wrote:
There should be NO alcohol allowed at any football matches anywhere. Cannabis, on the other hand, ought to be compulsory.
For the players?
After watching City over many years I think some may be anyway.

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