Bulls fans to hold meeting at City Hall (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)

Correctness wrote:
There is no future so why hold a meeting.

Correctness wrote:
There is no future so why hold a meeting.

Correctness wrote:
There is no future so why hold a meeting.

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Who is there in an offical capacity from the club or administrators or is this just a fan only meeting, if so what does it aim to achieve?

raisemeup wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote: Who is there in an offical capacity from the club or administrators or is this just a fan only meeting, if so what does it aim to achieve?

Probably the ultimate that a community can achieve in any adverse situation: ie "Unity!" Your friend Correctness, ( I'm assuming he is your friend as your thought process is out of the same stable.) thinks there is no future? Well it may be that 10 to 12 thousand Bulls fans think differently!

bantam bull wrote:
A sensible question to ask is, who will be there to answer questions????

Is it just fans asking ourselves questions???

Is anyone from the council, administrators, RFL, ABC, Omar Khans, Gerry Sutcliffe etc going to be there to answer questions???

Because if not, it honestly does sound like a waste of an evening. We Bulls fans have been united throughout this process but unless someone who knows the full score or can give us answers does just that what is the point of just sitting in City Hall "Further discussing the future of our club"????

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

raisemeup wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote: Who is there in an offical capacity from the club or administrators or is this just a fan only meeting, if so what does it aim to achieve?

Probably the ultimate that a community can achieve in any adverse situation: ie "Unity!" Your friend Correctness, ( I'm assuming he is your friend as your thought process is out of the same stable.) thinks there is no future? Well it may be that 10 to 12 thousand Bulls fans think differently!

My thought process is from the same stable?

I simply can see that the first offer on the table doesn't need to be accepted where as others without knowing the full terms of the offer seem to think it has to be accepted.

I'll stick in the camp of seeing that not all offers should be accepted, you can stick your head in the sand and go with the offer has to be accepted camp.

I have no idea why your getting at me other than I might not tell you what you want to hear, but if you want someone to tell you how rosey everything is maybe you want to read a fairytales website where everything ends happily ever after.

nowt fresh wrote:
Just been on Sky Sports News the RFLwill not accept the new revised offer from ABC,sowhat a supporters meeting will achieve I don't know ?.

nowt fresh wrote:
Just been on Sky Sports News the RFL are "unlikely" to accept the new revised offer from ABC,but the RFL have always said they will not accept conditions or so they say ?.

Correctness wrote:
There is no future so why hold a meeting.

jkirby85 wrote:

nowt fresh wrote: Just been on Sky Sports News the RFL are "unlikely" to accept the new revised offer from ABC,but the RFL have always said they will not accept conditions or so they say ?.

Erm.......yeah repeating it does not mean its been reported now does it? ......I've looked on sky news and sky sports news and guess what......no breaking news confirming what you have said.....

ianbd6 wrote:
at the meeting at the guide post it was mentioned about setting up a supporters trust.as it looks like the club is going belly up.if supporters want a say in how a pheonix club is run then being a member of a supporters trust is the best way.that is why we need meetings.a blind man can see there is no way out for the bulls in its present guise. even if someone was found to take over the club it would be operating on a reduced budget for years to come.think about it do you want to watch a team struggle at the bottom of super league for years or would it be better starting again at the bottom and building some solid foundations

nowt fresh wrote:

jkirby85 wrote:

nowt fresh wrote: Just been on Sky Sports News the RFL are "unlikely" to accept the new revised offer from ABC,but the RFL have always said they will not accept conditions or so they say ?.

Erm.......yeah repeating it does not mean its been reported now does it? ......I've looked on sky news and sky sports news and guess what......no breaking news confirming what you have said.....

Stop being a smart arse I'm just correcting what I posted originally thought it said "the RFLwill not accept the revised offer from ABC" but it actually says "unlikely to accept the revised offer" happy now DICK.

jkirby85 wrote:

nowt fresh wrote: Just been on Sky Sports News the RFL are "unlikely" to accept the new revised offer from ABC,but the RFL have always said they will not accept conditions or so they say ?.

Erm.......yeah repeating it does not mean its been reported now does it? ......I've looked on sky news and sky sports news and guess what......no breaking news confirming what you have said.....

bullybullman wrote:
The momentum is being lost us fans can now do nothing.

scandanavian's love child52 wrote:

jkirby85 wrote:

nowt fresh wrote: Just been on Sky Sports News the RFL are "unlikely" to accept the new revised offer from ABC,but the RFL have always said they will not accept conditions or so they say ?.

Erm.......yeah repeating it does not mean its been reported now does it? ......I've looked on sky news and sky sports news and guess what......no breaking news confirming what you have said.....

Sky channel 405 ticker across screen bottom when it rolls round to RL HTH

jkirby85 wrote:

bullybullman wrote: The momentum is being lost us fans can now do nothing.

we can if we all got together on this.....i dont know what but we can

nowt fresh wrote:

scandanavian's love child52 wrote:

jkirby85 wrote:

nowt fresh wrote: Just been on Sky Sports News the RFL are "unlikely" to accept the new revised offer from ABC,but the RFL have always said they will not accept conditions or so they say ?.

Erm.......yeah repeating it does not mean its been reported now does it? ......I've looked on sky news and sky sports news and guess what......no breaking news confirming what you have said.....

Sky channel 405 ticker across screen bottom when it rolls round to RL HTH

jkirby85s just another troll scandanavian's love child52 a bit like Correctness maybe jkirby85 should have gone to "SPECSAVERS"

jkirby85 wrote:

ianbd6 wrote: at the meeting at the guide post it was mentioned about setting up a supporters trust.as it looks like the club is going belly up.if supporters want a say in how a pheonix club is run then being a member of a supporters trust is the best way.that is why we need meetings.a blind man can see there is no way out for the bulls in its present guise. even if someone was found to take over the club it would be operating on a reduced budget for years to come.think about it do you want to watch a team struggle at the bottom of super league for years or would it be better starting again at the bottom and building some solid foundations

Do i dare to agree with you??? I'm sorry i do want bradford bulls to stay in the super league and i am going to take a punt and say we will stay alive aswel as keeping the young crop of players we have..... rfl just need to take their butt plugs out and start realising its not all about odsal top and heritage of rugby league sport for christ sake!!!

scandanavian's love child52 wrote:

jkirby85 wrote:

bullybullman wrote: The momentum is being lost us fans can now do nothing.

we can if we all got together on this.....i dont know what but we can

Quality Ha Ha

nowt fresh wrote:

scandanavian's love child52 wrote:

jkirby85 wrote:

bullybullman wrote: The momentum is being lost us fans can now do nothing.

we can if we all got together on this.....i dont know what but we can

Quality Ha Ha

Running Correctness a close second here funny guy !!!!!!!!

jkirby85 wrote:

nowt fresh wrote:

scandanavian's love child52 wrote:

jkirby85 wrote:

nowt fresh wrote: Just been on Sky Sports News the RFL are "unlikely" to accept the new revised offer from ABC,but the RFL have always said they will not accept conditions or so they say ?.

Erm.......yeah repeating it does not mean its been reported now does it? ......I've looked on sky news and sky sports news and guess what......no breaking news confirming what you have said.....

Sky channel 405 ticker across screen bottom when it rolls round to RL HTH

jkirby85s just another troll scandanavian's love child52 a bit like Correctness maybe jkirby85 should have gone to "SPECSAVERS"

just another troll??? no just a true bradford bulls fan that wants to try and help sunshine..... ;-)

jkirby85 wrote:

nowt fresh wrote:

scandanavian's love child52 wrote:

jkirby85 wrote:

bullybullman wrote: The momentum is being lost us fans can now do nothing.

we can if we all got together on this.....i dont know what but we can

Quality Ha Ha

Running Correctness a close second here funny guy !!!!!!!!

and your not very polite are ya TOSSER!!......guessi ng you aint no bulls fan just on here to be a complete wan.ker

Shelfrhino wrote:
I think it's time to start planning for the future. It's obvious to anybody with a brain that the dulls are in the last days of existence and what we should be discussing is what forum are we all going to carry on meeting on? Can't see the T&A having a dulls thread much longer, so any suggestions would be more than welcome. I'd hate to think I would be losing contact with some of you, especially you " I'm Brian and so's my wife", I feel as if we've really connected.

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

jkirby85 wrote:

ianbd6 wrote: at the meeting at the guide post it was mentioned about setting up a supporters trust.as it looks like the club is going belly up.if supporters want a say in how a pheonix club is run then being a member of a supporters trust is the best way.that is why we need meetings.a blind man can see there is no way out for the bulls in its present guise. even if someone was found to take over the club it would be operating on a reduced budget for years to come.think about it do you want to watch a team struggle at the bottom of super league for years or would it be better starting again at the bottom and building some solid foundations

Do i dare to agree with you??? I'm sorry i do want bradford bulls to stay in the super league and i am going to take a punt and say we will stay alive aswel as keeping the young crop of players we have..... rfl just need to take their butt plugs out and start realising its not all about odsal top and heritage of rugby league sport for christ sake!!!

If it's not all about Odsal top, why don't the ABC group take that out of their conditional offer?

They should request an option to purchase the lease at a later date once they have fufilled their end of the bargin and kept the Bulls going till the end of their current super league licence.

nowt fresh wrote:

scandanavian's love child52 wrote:

jkirby85 wrote:

nowt fresh wrote: Just been on Sky Sports News the RFL are "unlikely" to accept the new revised offer from ABC,but the RFL have always said they will not accept conditions or so they say ?.

Erm.......yeah repeating it does not mean its been reported now does it? ......I've looked on sky news and sky sports news and guess what......no breaking news confirming what you have said.....

Sky channel 405 ticker across screen bottom when it rolls round to RL HTH

jkirby85s just another troll scandanavian's love child52 a bit like Correctness maybe jkirby85 should have gone to "SPECSAVERS"

Mumby was the best wrote:

Correctness wrote: There is no future so why hold a meeting.

Because unlike you they (we) believe in sticking by the club thro thick and thin.

bartsbull wrote:
You will not get any straight answers from any of them you need a high profile figure to go and sit down and talk to the RFL face to face

Gerry Sutcliffe seems to have put his name forward with one of the bids why do we not approach him or one of the council

David Green as also been involved we as supporters can only go so far

Our club needs an influx of money to keep going be whatever division we are in

Until that happens we are all surmising i have and still will be a long time supporter of the club and i would do anything to help

But we need backing from the governing body and some serious answers to simple questions

Where as the money gone to that we raised

Where as the payment gone from the RFL for the lease

Where as the gate receipt money gone from the games that we have played at home since we started raising money for the club

Most of all where are the so called Directors and major shareholders in the club have they disapeared

There as been no comment from Caisely since his paragraph in the paper and the League express that he would make sure the club carried on for another twenty years or more

No comment from Peter Hood since he step down appart from his comment in the media

I have gone through the uncertanties of not being paid and it is not nice

The staff the coaches and players like the rest of us need to know if the Bulls still have a future in the sport.

They have the lively hoods and families to take care of and i would not blame any of them if they walk away from the club even if all this mess is sorted out

Because with security they would be foolish to stay long live the Bulls

Anti-Firm wrote:
T & A forum is so troll ridden it's manky

raisemeup wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:

raisemeup wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote: Who is there in an offical capacity from the club or administrators or is this just a fan only meeting, if so what does it aim to achieve?

Probably the ultimate that a community can achieve in any adverse situation: ie "Unity!" Your friend Correctness, ( I'm assuming he is your friend as your thought process is out of the same stable.) thinks there is no future? Well it may be that 10 to 12 thousand Bulls fans think differently!

My thought process is from the same stable?

I simply can see that the first offer on the table doesn't need to be accepted where as others without knowing the full terms of the offer seem to think it has to be accepted.

I'll stick in the camp of seeing that not all offers should be accepted, you can stick your head in the sand and go with the offer has to be accepted camp.

I have no idea why your getting at me other than I might not tell you what you want to hear, but if you want someone to tell you how rosey everything is maybe you want to read a fairytales website where everything ends happily ever after.

Not getting at you. Just your type.

Because everything you all do is totally predictable....stick to the point...no one is talking about tables or offers so stop trying in your unsuble way to detract from the point.
You and the others who exist just to destroy anything that is meaninfull to good people are merely jetsum from the bowels of society.

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
For anyone interest this is what I have managed to find out regarding the meeting.

The deadline for the administration has been extended to the end of August, which nearly takes the bulls to the end of the season so it's looking likely the read decision regarding the future will take place when the season ends.

Super League will not drop to 13 clubs, if Bulls end up out of the league, they will be replaced.

The second ABC bid has been rejected.

Thats all I can find at the moment.

It's not looking good for beyond the end of the season, the RFL look to be making sure they don't have a part completed fixture list as their main priority now, the hero to save the Bulls has about 1 month to reveal himself or its going to be too late.

Cougar Boy wrote:
The sorry stte of badford Bulls is extremly sad..however please remember how you...and the rest of "Super League"...Mr and Mrs Hetherington, Mr Caisley, Mr Lindsey....destroyed and demoted...Hunslet, Dewsbury,Keighley, Workington et al to fund your own greed...alll these clubs have gone to the wall, struggled and fought on. Bradford Bulls "were" a great club...where as Wigan, Warrington, ST Helens, Hull FC, Salford have grown you have stood still, you destroyed the heat land of rugby league...stole Keoghley's "cougarmania" having mocked it as a joke...now reep what you sow and leave quielty x

LuvFootball wrote:
Just a point of view, if it was your money, if you was the saviour, would you waste millions on getting the club onto an even keel, clearing all the debt, or would you create a new club, spend the money on trying to buy back Odsal, get it into the Super League and then even sell the club for a lot more money or keep it running without the need to look back.

Business at the end of the day, just like I would invest in a club like Hearts, a good club has got at least 3 or 4 seasons in the Champions League before Rangers can next qualify at the very soonest. There are good business reasons to let the Bulls sink, and invest in a Phoenix club without any debt. If the club plays at Odsal, there is already the fan base there.

NorthernBull wrote:
go to end of season and go into lower league ... put two fingers up as we go..

we have 12k fans and can write off debt AS WE DONT HAVE A BALE OUT like RBS and HBOS ...

Leeds will be ok .. they have a superleague local derby with Wakefield dont they selfish rhino and scandanavian bum chum ..

Its time us fans said rollocks to the lot of them ....

Cougar Boy wrote:
The sorry stte of badford Bulls is extremly sad..however please remember how you...and the rest of "Super League"...Mr and Mrs Hetherington, Mr Caisley, Mr Lindsey....destroyed and demoted...Hunslet, Dewsbury,Keighley, Workington et al to fund your own greed...alll these clubs have gone to the wall, struggled and fought on. Bradford Bulls "were" a great club...where as Wigan, Warrington, ST Helens, Hull FC, Salford have grown you have stood still, you destroyed the heat land of rugby league...stole Keoghley's "cougarmania" having mocked it as a joke...now reep what you sow and leave quielty x

bullybullman wrote:
We need to start again its the only way imo ! Super league has no real future I t can only be sustained by backers only two clubs out of 14 make a profit that is not a sound business platform. We have been blessed with the glory days times I will never forget but its time to face the truth our days in the top flight are over.

I will continue to suport the club whatever divison.

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Looking at it now it seems clear that the RFL just want to get the Bulls to the end of the season and allow the Super League to complete it's fixtures.

The six point deduction is in place it appears to make sure the Bulls don't make the play-off and then are required to be funded further.

The RFL don't want to be left in a position where all results against Bradford are null and void which would see some team benefit more than others. Suddenly Wigan losing at home to Bradford doesn't matter where as Warrington in relation to Wigan will lose out by soundly beating the Bulls at home.

The endgame is slowly coming closer and it will be when the season ends that the Bulls fate will be sealed, it's unlikely to happen before.

LuvFootball wrote:
Just a point of view, if it was your money, if you was the saviour, would you waste millions on getting the club onto an even keel, clearing all the debt, or would you create a new club, spend the money on trying to buy back Odsal, get it into the Super League and then even sell the club for a lot more money or keep it running without the need to look back. Business at the end of the day, just like I would invest in a club like Hearts, a good club has got at least 3 or 4 seasons in the Champions League before Rangers can next qualify at the very soonest. There are good business reasons to let the Bulls sink, and invest in a Phoenix club without any debt. If the club plays at Odsal, there is already the fan base there.

Andy2010 wrote:

LuvFootball wrote:
Just a point of view, if it was your money, if you was the saviour, would you waste millions on getting the club onto an even keel, clearing all the debt, or would you create a new club, spend the money on trying to buy back Odsal, get it into the Super League and then even sell the club for a lot more money or keep it running without the need to look back. Business at the end of the day, just like I would invest in a club like Hearts, a good club has got at least 3 or 4 seasons in the Champions League before Rangers can next qualify at the very soonest. There are good business reasons to let the Bulls sink, and invest in a Phoenix club without any debt. If the club plays at Odsal, there is already the fan base there.

This is probably the only post on here that actually makes sense. Its seems Bull's fan just like arguing and speculating amongst themselves calling anyone that doesnt agree with what they say a "troll"

Mumby was the best wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

LuvFootball wrote: Just a point of view, if it was your money, if you was the saviour, would you waste millions on getting the club onto an even keel, clearing all the debt, or would you create a new club, spend the money on trying to buy back Odsal, get it into the Super League and then even sell the club for a lot more money or keep it running without the need to look back. Business at the end of the day, just like I would invest in a club like Hearts, a good club has got at least 3 or 4 seasons in the Champions League before Rangers can next qualify at the very soonest. There are good business reasons to let the Bulls sink, and invest in a Phoenix club without any debt. If the club plays at Odsal, there is already the fan base there.

This is probably the only post on here that actually makes sense. Its seems Bull's fan just like arguing and speculating amongst themselves calling anyone that doesnt agree with what they say a "troll"

Definition of a "troll" In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory,extrane ous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion This description fits one poster who may use various names.

Andy2010 wrote:

Mumby was the best wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

LuvFootball wrote: Just a point of view, if it was your money, if you was the saviour, would you waste millions on getting the club onto an even keel, clearing all the debt, or would you create a new club, spend the money on trying to buy back Odsal, get it into the Super League and then even sell the club for a lot more money or keep it running without the need to look back. Business at the end of the day, just like I would invest in a club like Hearts, a good club has got at least 3 or 4 seasons in the Champions League before Rangers can next qualify at the very soonest. There are good business reasons to let the Bulls sink, and invest in a Phoenix club without any debt. If the club plays at Odsal, there is already the fan base there.

This is probably the only post on here that actually makes sense. Its seems Bull's fan just like arguing and speculating amongst themselves calling anyone that doesnt agree with what they say a "troll"

Definition of a "troll" In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory,extrane ous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion This description fits one poster who may use various names.

What exactly has been posted of this nature? All I can see if some posters saying comments like "its all over" " Im supporting Halifax" etc etc. That isnt any of them definations you have posted they are simply opinions Anyway best back away slowly now before I also get labelled a troll

Andy2010 wrote:

Mumby was the best wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

LuvFootball wrote: Just a point of view, if it was your money, if you was the saviour, would you waste millions on getting the club onto an even keel, clearing all the debt, or would you create a new club, spend the money on trying to buy back Odsal, get it into the Super League and then even sell the club for a lot more money or keep it running without the need to look back. Business at the end of the day, just like I would invest in a club like Hearts, a good club has got at least 3 or 4 seasons in the Champions League before Rangers can next qualify at the very soonest. There are good business reasons to let the Bulls sink, and invest in a Phoenix club without any debt. If the club plays at Odsal, there is already the fan base there.

This is probably the only post on here that actually makes sense. Its seems Bull's fan just like arguing and speculating amongst themselves calling anyone that doesnt agree with what they say a "troll"

Definition of a "troll" In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory,extrane ous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion This description fits one poster who may use various names.

What exactly has been posted of this nature? All I can see if some posters saying comments like "its all over" " Im supporting Halifax" etc etc. That isnt any of them definations you have posted they are simply opinions

Anyway best back away slowly now before I also get labelled a troll

scandanavian's love child52 wrote:
Let it go mumby and draw a line in the sand, your fat head is full of nonsense lad.

Andy2010 wrote:

Mumby was the best wrote:

Andy2010 wrote:

LuvFootball wrote: Just a point of view, if it was your money, if you was the saviour, would you waste millions on getting the club onto an even keel, clearing all the debt, or would you create a new club, spend the money on trying to buy back Odsal, get it into the Super League and then even sell the club for a lot more money or keep it running without the need to look back. Business at the end of the day, just like I would invest in a club like Hearts, a good club has got at least 3 or 4 seasons in the Champions League before Rangers can next qualify at the very soonest. There are good business reasons to let the Bulls sink, and invest in a Phoenix club without any debt. If the club plays at Odsal, there is already the fan base there.

This is probably the only post on here that actually makes sense. Its seems Bull's fan just like arguing and speculating amongst themselves calling anyone that doesnt agree with what they say a "troll"

Definition of a "troll" In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory,extrane ous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion This description fits one poster who may use various names.

What exactly has been posted of this nature? All I can see if some posters saying comments like "its all over" " Im supporting Halifax" etc etc. That isnt any of them definations you have posted they are simply opinions

Anyway best back away slowly now before I also get labelled a troll

murphyslaw wrote:
This T&A site has its own defnition of troll. To avoid being branded just pretend all is well at Odsal, end of!!

bully4us wrote:
The moderator down at the T and A clearly has no idea of what troll is and has absolutely no plan of stopping them as long as people are logging in and they can state how many hits their site has had so they can continue to sell advertising on it. Sad, but that is how papers are going these days and they don't care who visits their site as long as they do. So they will do absolutely nothing about these few people.

Mumby was the best wrote:

scandanavian's love child52 wrote: Let it go mumby and draw a line in the sand, your fat head is full of nonsense lad.

I can`t resist this, pass me a Gaff and a landing net I think I caught a big one. I`m off now YES YES YES!!!

NorthernBull wrote:
ill buy a £200 quid season ticket in league 2 !!! who will join me .. scandi and shelf rhino bums chums ?

raisemeup wrote:

NorthernBull wrote: go to end of season and go into lower league ... put two fingers up as we go.. we have 12k fans and can write off debt AS WE DONT HAVE A BALE OUT like RBS and HBOS ... Leeds will be ok .. they have a superleague local derby with Wakefield dont they selfish rhino and scandanavian bum chum .. Its time us fans said rollocks to the lot of them ....

It's good to see that a club that defied the odds (with a little help from their friends.) have come back to prominence with a 38-18 thrashing of a top SL club, aka Rhino's. Proves that with the right backing and support along with conditions being swept aside, in favour of the common sense that saw Wakefield being recognised as an important City in West Yorkshire, at the time of their administration (Feb 2011). It can be done. I wonder where the RFL stand on this result, will they take the credit for the foresight that has didn't punish Wakefield for the heinous crime of nearly being wound up for owing HMRC £300k. The game was a good and well fought contest, my admiration goes to Wakefield for a good victory in front of their loyal supporters who like the Bulls supporters kept the faith. Result: Wakefield 38 Leeds 18.