Making play-offs ‘an enormous ask’ for Bradford Bulls (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)

Sad sad situation none of Potters making the legacy of Hood & Casiley and that of poor player purchase & managment of Macnamara. We were finally seeing light at the end of the tunnel only for it to be turned out. ABC are our only hope but only time will tell if this allows our momentum to continue.

to lose one income through some body elses neglegence is bad enough but the potter family have lost 2 incomes. I hope that they both get their jobs back. fantasic that he is working for nothing, but a real shame he has been put in to that position, hope that he gets re-instated as he has been doing a fantasic job for the Bulls.

bullybullman wrote:
Sad sad situation none of Potters making the legacy of Hood & Casiley and that of poor player purchase & managment of Macnamara. We were finally seeing light at the end of the tunnel only for it to be turned out. ABC are our only hope but only time will tell if this allows our momentum to continue.

Its sad that some people on here need to pillar Macca, Potter still has not reached 4th as Macca did and Potter is benefitting from Maccas youth policy. Both are good coaches. Easy to live in a blame culture sat in your arm chair!!!

The big difference is not Coaching Ability but Man Mangement! Macca was a bit of a soft touch so naturally some Players took advantage. Mick Potter is a different character and someone who is tough enough to make the hard decisions but also has the respect of the Players, as recent results in trying times have shown

"Six points – three wins – is the standard punishment for entering administration"

Didn't Wakey get docked 4 not 6?

Potter for the sack - What a strange post ! Macca`s poor player selection & consistant failure had a massive inpact on what`s happened. Dont know where the arm chair thing comes from ? I agree totally with your comment on his youth policy but unfortunatly he was head coach not youth coach when he signed some of the worst players we have seen at our club in super league his failure was clear to see. Are you Macca in disguise Potter for the sack ?

Hoods failure to sack Macca also had a major impact on fan leaving in droves ! 15000 - 3500 fans in 3 years tells a story.

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Steve McNamara is undoubtedly one the nicest guys in RL. It could be argued that his appointment as head coach came too soon for him in his career but there is no doubt that the financial restrictions within the club were apparent even during his tenure. Those restrictions were bound to have had some impact on the quality of players he was able to sign.

Potter for the sack wrote:

bullybullman wrote:
Sad sad situation none of Potters making the legacy of Hood & Casiley and that of poor player purchase & managment of Macnamara. We were finally seeing light at the end of the tunnel only for it to be turned out. ABC are our only hope but only time will tell if this allows our momentum to continue.

Its sad that some people on here need to pillar Macca, Potter still has not reached 4th as Macca did and Potter is benefitting from Maccas youth policy. Both are good coaches. Easy to live in a blame culture sat in your arm chair!!!

You having a laugh? Steve McNamara was the worst coach the club has ever had. Fact.

We didn't finish 4th. we finished 10th and lost 12 on the bounce at one point. When he got the England job he wanted to leave ASAP, only hood made him see his contract out, until even he had enough....

macca was awfull with the 1st team, thats a given. but what he did that most ppl dont know about is out bid just about every team inc wire n wigan for youngsters n this is were our current crop of talent is from so he has left a great legacy for us. take 1 look at the national side now its miles better with the 18s n knights as well hes done a fantastic job !! but no doube potter is the man we need and hopfully we can convince him tio stay beyond this year as he has worked miricles !!! COYB
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We will be deducted points for going into administration but it should be no more than Wakefield got in the same situation

We may still make the play offs but it will be a big ask on the team but the spirit is there

This will all be down to the new owners if things go to plan.

The RFL has to back the new owners this could be great for not only the Bulls but Bradford and the rugby league community who have been fantastic supporting our club in these harsh times

MP should be the first to get his job back he as turned the club round on the field and his players back him up and our great fans follow that on coyb

Mcnamara was embarrassingly bad as head coach - I fear the only thing saving him at England is they don't play too often and no-one thinks they'll beat Australia anyway so they don't judge him too hard. He should have stayed as junior and development coach.

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You having a laugh? Steve McNamara was the worst coach the club has ever had. Fact.

We didn't finish 4th. we finished 10th and lost 12 on the bounce at one point. When he got the England job he wanted to leave ASAP, only hood made him see his contract out, until even he had enough....

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Potter for the sack wrote:

bullybullman wrote:
Sad sad situation none of Potters making the legacy of Hood & Casiley and that of poor player purchase & managment of Macnamara. We were finally seeing light at the end of the tunnel only for it to be turned out. ABC are our only hope but only time will tell if this allows our momentum to continue.

Its sad that some people on here need to pillar Macca, Potter still has not reached 4th as Macca did and Potter is benefitting from Maccas youth policy. Both are good coaches. Easy to live in a blame culture sat in your arm chair!!!

You having a laugh? Steve McNamara was the worst coach the club has ever had. Fact.

We didn't finish 4th. we finished 10th and lost 12 on the bounce at one point. When he got the England job he wanted to leave ASAP, only hood made him see his contract out, until even he had enough....

I did not say we finished 4th, but we were in 4th position (before Awful got injured and threw his dummy out). How do you know every coach Bradford have had, you must be about 120 years old, get back to your arm chair, slippers, fags & pint.

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Fans doing good so far - very encouraging response.

Macca had financial restraints one season only the rest he had the full cap ! no excuss.

Potter for the sack wrote:

mumbyfan wrote:

Potter for the sack wrote:

bullybullman wrote:
Sad sad situation none of Potters making the legacy of Hood & Casiley and that of poor player purchase & managment of Macnamara. We were finally seeing light at the end of the tunnel only for it to be turned out. ABC are our only hope but only time will tell if this allows our momentum to continue.

Its sad that some people on here need to pillar Macca, Potter still has not reached 4th as Macca did and Potter is benefitting from Maccas youth policy. Both are good coaches. Easy to live in a blame culture sat in your arm chair!!!

You having a laugh? Steve McNamara was the worst coach the club has ever had. Fact.

We didn't finish 4th. we finished 10th and lost 12 on the bounce at one point. When he got the England job he wanted to leave ASAP, only hood made him see his contract out, until even he had enough....

I did not say we finished 4th, but we were in 4th position (before Awful got injured and threw his dummy out). How do you know every coach Bradford have had, you must be about 120 years old, get back to your arm chair, slippers, fags & pint.

Again strange post im 42 years old never smoked , never claimed anything other than my opinion ! Why go on the attack ? strange.

I appreciate I'm probably a bit older than some of my fellow correspondents but I would suggest Barry Seabourne was comfortably the worst coach we have had at Bradford in the last 40 years

Before my time was Seabourne but ill take your word for it Spirit. Macca must have come a close second.

Seabourne had the decency to quit as I recall.

Strangely enough the club had serious financial problems during Seabourne's era as well. Some things never changes? I think all the players were transfer listed at one point. But we had some great players in those days, Brian Noble, Karl Fairbank, Phil Ford and the incomparable John Woods and yet Seabourne could not fashion a winning team with those guys. I seem to recall us winning away at York on the last day of the season just to avoid relegation from the old first division. But enough history, the immediate future is of much greater concern. Lets hope everything falls into place with the new consortium

Solomon Grundy wrote:
Seabourne had the decency to quit as I recall.

The world has moved on since then. These days we promote people to a place where they can't do any damage.

Potter for the sack wrote:

mumbyfan wrote:

Potter for the sack wrote:

bullybullman wrote: Sad sad situation none of Potters making the legacy of Hood & Casiley and that of poor player purchase & managment of Macnamara. We were finally seeing light at the end of the tunnel only for it to be turned out. ABC are our only hope but only time will tell if this allows our momentum to continue.

Its sad that some people on here need to pillar Macca, Potter still has not reached 4th as Macca did and Potter is benefitting from Maccas youth policy. Both are good coaches. Easy to live in a blame culture sat in your arm chair!!!

You having a laugh? Steve McNamara was the worst coach the club has ever had. Fact. We didn't finish 4th. we finished 10th and lost 12 on the bounce at one point. When he got the England job he wanted to leave ASAP, only hood made him see his contract out, until even he had enough....

I did not say we finished 4th, but we were in 4th position (before Awful got injured and threw his dummy out). How do you know every coach Bradford have had, you must be about 120 years old, get back to your arm chair, slippers, fags & pint.

Doesn't matter what position we were reached in the table, it's all about where we finished. Don't get me wrong, I liked Macca, sure he's a nice bloke, but he wasn't a good enough coach. I very much doubt he could have done what Potter's managed in the current situation.

Macnamara is now being found out as England coach too. There were two devastating criticisms of the England performance in League Express this week from Fozzard and Schofield. But listening to Macnamara you'd think the policy of picking a weak team was a great success. His comments reminded me of his repeated excuses for failure at Bradford - as someone said, he was a politician rather than a head coach, talking a good game and glossing over failure. He's not in the same league as Potter who is not only a good coach but a good manager of men.

With regard to Steve McNamara in his first year after taking over from Nobby, the Bulls were within some dodgy refereeing decisions at Hull,from reaching the Grand Final.We didnt and from a playing point of view it went downwards from then.I am not making excuses for Steve but if we had gone to Old Trafford that year we could have been in a different position from what followed and maybe kicked on from there.Truth is we didnt and as they say the rest is history.One final point regarding Northern and the season they almost were relagated,it was Hull KR we beat and we only survived because Featherstone lost on the same day.The play offs are in sight but we have some very tough fixtures besides the point deduction,but we are still in with a chance if we can retain Mick Potter.There is always hope unlike the person from Ellands letter who was very negative in the League Weekley on Monday.Keep the faith COYB.

mumbyfan wrote:
You having a laugh? Steve McNamara was the worst coach the club has ever had. Fact.

We didn't finish 4th. we finished 10th and lost 12 on the bounce at one point. When he got the England job he wanted to leave ASAP, only hood made him see his contract out, until even he had enough....

Haha now come on, as a mumby fan you would surely have seen the great man play for that useless tool called Ron Willey, who surely takes the title of worst coach the club has ever had!! Macca did a good job with very little resources, forced upon him by an inept chairman at the time. The youth policy he brought in was excellent and Potter and the team are certainly reaping the benefits of that this season. Lets hope we can retain Mick Potter as we have a potential top side in the future and he has done a fantastic job building the side and keeping moral up in times of trouble. So lets get off Maccas back, it's history and lets support MP and the club in going forward, hopefully with a whopping win at the whinos

I think that in the first year or so all RL coaches are subject to a steep learning curve. So picking a newly appointed coach to the fraternity is always going to be tough on any team, but a cheaper option than a vastly experienced coach with a track record. When a club is run by bean counters it will usually mean a lean time.

I agree that Barry Seabourne & Ron Willey were worse that Macca but he is in there with them. The prime man for man management was Peter Fox he won trophy's with very little money. He motivated players to play well above their natural skill level. The only trophy he did not win during his stay was the RL Cup. He was forced out of the club at the advent of super league in very shabby circumstances. The clubs most successful coach ever (silver on the shelf) is with out a doubt Brian Noble.
Just hope we get to survive and stay at Odsal.

Potter for the sack wrote:

bullybullman wrote:
Sad sad situation none of Potters making the legacy of Hood & Casiley and that of poor player purchase & managment of Macnamara. We were finally seeing light at the end of the tunnel only for it to be turned out. ABC are our only hope but only time will tell if this allows our momentum to continue.

Its sad that some people on here need to pillar Macca, Potter still has not reached 4th as Macca did and Potter is benefitting from Maccas youth policy. Both are good coaches. Easy to live in a blame culture sat in your arm chair!!!

Absolutely priceless. mcnamara nly got 4th on the back of nobbies tenure and we quickly worsened under the useless codhead. Blame culture?? So y do u want potter sacked ??

im off to contribute to the hardship fund ...safe in the knowledge :

IN THE ABSOLUTE

WORST CASE SCENARIO

We go bust and reform in league one ...ALL debts gone ..

New owners buy club for next to nowt.. Fans by lease off RFL ...to keep us at Odsal forever ..

keep potter and as many players as we can..

That is not that bad .... 2 years to top the championship ...

bring high profile to the none sl clubs..

and come back in to SL in 2015 ..

So im cheering up .... having seen the death scenario above im accepting the high temprature of a points deduction and new owners who are forced to stay at Odsal ..

I will be on the terraces regardless ..

of sky money ... or the absence of a HBOS , RBS tax payer bale out..

but still hope Bradford council see the bulls as too big to fail ....and at least buy the lease back to safeguard Odsal from any banker style greed ambitions..

Come on Pickles we will all turn into problem families if you dont help the bulls ...and that will cost you !!!

The national government could lean on Wesfields invisbile building project and local council incompetence ..and start a chain reaction that helps Bradford invest in its community ..instead of being stuck in perpetual limbo and decline ..because of a bloody hole in the city centre ..

How much to grass it .. or better still build a 30k COB stadium with shops and restaurants that every week would see 15k sports fans as foot fall ... breathing life once more into this great city ..

back to the hardship fund contribution now !!!!

Anyone know what the crack is with the stock sale tomorrow and Sat. Guilfoyle has Saud there will be one, but that's all. Can't seem to find any other details!

NorthernBull wrote:
im off to contribute to the hardship fund ...safe in the knowledge :

IN THE ABSOLUTE

WORST CASE SCENARIO

We go bust and reform in league one ...ALL debts gone ..

New owners buy club for next to nowt.. Fans by lease off RFL ...to keep us at Odsal forever ..

keep potter and as many players as we can..

That is not that bad .... 2 years to top the championship ...

bring high profile to the none sl clubs..

and come back in to SL in 2015 ..

So im cheering up .... having seen the death scenario above im accepting the high temprature of a points deduction and new owners who are forced to stay at Odsal ..

I will be on the terraces regardless ..

of sky money ... or the absence of a HBOS , RBS tax payer bale out..

but still hope Bradford council see the bulls as too big to fail ....and at least buy the lease back to safeguard Odsal from any banker style greed ambitions..

Come on Pickles we will all turn into problem families if you dont help the bulls ...and that will cost you !!!

The national government could lean on Wesfields invisbile building project and local council incompetence ..and start a chain reaction that helps Bradford invest in its community ..instead of being stuck in perpetual limbo and decline ..because of a bloody hole in the city centre ..

How much to grass it .. or better still build a 30k COB stadium with shops and restaurants that every week would see 15k sports fans as foot fall ... breathing life once more into this great city ..

back to the hardship fund contribution now !!!!

Dream on.
You only got gates of ten thousand virtually giving ST's away.
What would be the point in a 30k seater stadium? More to the point, where would the money come from?
I think Hulls stadium cost £48m ten years ago, who would put that kind of money into Bratfut.

Hull does have a fine stadium .. Council sponsored ...

And its light years ahead of anything in Leeds..

the perfect council investment ...dual use plus music shows ..

It rather put Hull back on the map ..

You are quite good at making other peoples points ..

thx.

we'd hold international RL games , semi finals etc ..attract one direction for live pop shows ..
proud of that Bradford lad in the young hit group we are ...

cos for sure we dont want anymore tri nations finals in a decrepit stadium with one stand.. usually left closed for finals ..and home LUFC games..
due to stewarding costs for the few occupied seats..

Even VP has two sides..

Headingley cant even hold 20k anymore... not that it needs to ..

but it wouldnt be safe you know ..

Is that a stantion in front of my view .. oh yes im in the south stand...

another superb move missed ...

When Bradford builds its new international cricket stadium ..Headingley will have student flats built on it for sure ..

Twice as many cricket fans will turn up in Bradford ..

Its bleak for Leeds and even more so if you have a ticket for the challenge cup final !!!

It takes a good side to beat Wigan ..They have only lost 1 in the last 15 games..

Odsal53 wrote:
I agree that Barry Seabourne & Ron Willey were worse that Macca but he is in there with them. The prime man for man management was Peter Fox he won trophy's with very little money. He motivated players to play well above their natural skill level. The only trophy he did not win during his stay was the RL Cup. He was forced out of the club at the advent of super league in very shabby circumstances. The clubs most successful coach ever (silver on the shelf) is with out a doubt Brian Noble.
Just hope we get to survive and stay at Odsal.

What stood out with Peter Fox is that he could motivate poor or average players,but could he motivate good players?
During that time though he did have to contend with with two of the game's most gifted players , but should we say they had "colourful" outside influences in their live's , Henderson Gill & the greatest player ever to pull on the "White,Black ,Red & Amber" shirt & best player,I ever seen at Odsal. Without a doubt, "The Black Pearl".
With regards to "Nobby", was it really that he was following on from the "Brian Smith & Matt Elliot era"?
My big hope going forward is that we can at least keep the nucleaus of the younger stars in which we have trained and groomed to play for the Bulls.
I would rather let the overseas older players go and start a fresh with the kids who are homegrown.
I know it will be hard to start with, but we need to build continuety into the Brand name now.
We certainly seem to have a good raft of good young players coming through.
Lets try un-earth two really good half -backs?
Back to Mr Fox if you all remember he wanted his contract extending when the club wanted to extend old "juda's" Mr Newlove contract.
Funny when "Uncle Peter " got the bullet "Newlove" wanted out?
Guess who he is agent was?
Finally onto "Caiseley-gate"
All this mess started when he didnt properly replace "Super stud" "Henry Paul" with a good RL halfback.
He signed "Harris"!!!
I dont know why?
We would have better signing "Rolf Harris"?
Anyway that my thoughts on the whole situation?
Still nice to remember back to when Old Trafford & Wembley were like second grounds?
Though's were the days,& lets face it they were one of the main positives to come out of Bradford thats saying something!!

Bradford's decline ‘is second worst in UK since 1901’
& what is the cause of tbis demise?
Cant believe peoole want this great club to become the bradford bhunas. there is no interest in the club from this lot its all for the property. come on mr tordoff

oddshapedballs wrote:

Potter for the sack wrote:

bullybullman wrote:
Sad sad situation none of Potters making the legacy of Hood & Casiley and that of poor player purchase & managment of Macnamara. We were finally seeing light at the end of the tunnel only for it to be turned out. ABC are our only hope but only time will tell if this allows our momentum to continue.

Its sad that some people on here need to pillar Macca, Potter still has not reached 4th as Macca did and Potter is benefitting from Maccas youth policy. Both are good coaches. Easy to live in a blame culture sat in your arm chair!!!

Absolutely priceless. mcnamara nly got 4th on the back of nobbies tenure and we quickly worsened under the useless codhead. Blame culture?? So y do u want potter sacked ??

I never said I wanted Potter sacked. He is a good coach. You should show more respect to Macca (at least he tried, did you coach anything?), its so childish calling him codhead along with your spelling.

oddshapedballs wrote:
Bradford's decline ‘is second worst in UK since 1901’
& what is the cause of tbis demise?
Cant believe peoole want this great club to become the bradford bhunas. there is no interest in the club from this lot its all for the property. come on mr tordoff

Why not have asian ownership? Man Utd is owed by americans, Chelsea by arabs. What does it matter who own the Bulls? You are probably just a racist biggot, a bit of an Alf Garnett. COYB

Potter for the sack wrote:

oddshapedballs wrote: Bradford's decline ‘is second worst in UK since 1901’ & what is the cause of tbis demise? Cant believe peoole want this great club to become the bradford bhunas. there is no interest in the club from this lot its all for the property. come on mr tordoff

Why not have asian ownership? Man Utd is owed by americans, Chelsea by arabs. What does it matter who own the Bulls? You are probably just a racist biggot, a bit of an Alf Garnett. COYB

Never had Abramovich down as an Arab, you learn summat everyday eh.

NorthernBull wrote:
we'd hold international RL games , semi finals etc ..attract one direction for live pop shows ..
proud of that Bradford lad in the young hit group we are ...

cos for sure we dont want anymore tri nations finals in a decrepit stadium with one stand.. usually left closed for finals ..and home LUFC games..
due to stewarding costs for the few occupied seats..

Even VP has two sides..

Headingley cant even hold 20k anymore... not that it needs to ..

but it wouldnt be safe you know ..

Is that a stantion in front of my view .. oh yes im in the south stand...

another superb move missed ...

When Bradford builds its new international cricket stadium ..Headingley will have student flats built on it for sure ..

Twice as many cricket fans will turn up in Bradford ..

Its bleak for Leeds and even more so if you have a ticket for the challenge cup final !!!

It takes a good side to beat Wigan ..They have only lost 1 in the last 15 games..

Will be getting my ticket next week, not looking that bleak now pal is it?