RFL confident Bradford Bulls will finish the season (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)

The RFL are putting the pressure on publically now. That's a good sign, as potential buyers know they have some backing. I am not sure that includes Caisley.

with all the money and help it seems that if the bradford bulls **** the rugby football league come out and have a crap.

What a quality, well thought out post. (I don't think) Still given where its come from its not a surprise. Thankfully there are some proper Rhinos'who are true RL fans and see the wider picture and we appreciate their support rather than this unseemly rant

BeechwoodBull wrote:
What a quality, well thought out post. (I don't think) Still given where its come from its not a surprise. Thankfully there are some proper Rhinos'who are true RL fans and see the wider picture and we appreciate their support rather than this unseemly rant

Well said Beechwood. The movement of the one brain cell from our non friend, fortunately is rare, but these sites being what they are we tend to draw the sludge as well as the inteligent responses.
What is heartening is the collective help and support from other clubs and the RFL, plus many of the decent fans from these clubs.
What we should do is thank them, not throw the help and support in their faces.(we aren't doing that)
Because what our silly friend is doing is calling thousands of people "Mugs" for being decent and sensible supporters of our truly wonderful game!
Let's hope he gets the chance to explain his insulting behaviour to them all.

did anyone hear that imbocile cullen on sky last night??? why oh why do we have to put up with numpties like him on the telly? it's bad enough with neddie and heaveho without him as well.

cj wrote:
did anyone hear that imbocile cullen on sky last night??? why oh why do we have to put up with numpties like him on the telly? it's bad enough with neddie and heaveho without him as well.

I could not believe his attitude, maybe he should have another look at his own C.V. - not the best of reading! What an idiot!

DevonBull wrote:

cj wrote:
did anyone hear that imbocile cullen on sky last night??? why oh why do we have to put up with numpties like him on the telly? it's bad enough with neddie and heaveho without him as well.

I could not believe his attitude, maybe he should have another look at his own C.V. - not the best of reading! What an idiot!

He tends to bask in his own intellect (??) rather than give any sense to what he actually says. ie He's using some of the right words, but not necessarily in any order!

Yes I agree with you.

Not with you - what was cullen saying?

sorry i offended i didt cover myself in glory. so i wil put it more tactfully.firstly the rfl give bradford a super league liscence when it was plain obvious there were .financial problems then they buy the lease to odsal, then they loan the club £200,000 to pay the wage bill. a lot of business are in financial dificulty you only have to look at the high street.if any other company in administration went to a bank and asked for a loan they would be turned down.also where is the points deduction i look back at what happened to the crusaders and widnes and other clubs in other sports.so i know my last post was uncouth but i believe the bradford bulls are getting preferential treatment from the rfl,.. anyway i wish you well in your plight and a rfl club can prosper again in the city of bradford

The thing is Loiner, if the Bulls disappear, your club will lose approx' a quarter of a million at least from the gate money in just two weeks and each year thereafter. That's a month's wages for your club. It's your biggest regular income.
The Rhinos need the Bulls as much as the RFL.

Solomon Grundy wrote:
Not with you - what was cullen saying?

the gist of it from stevo and eddie was about clubs having big money backers, and without them a lot of clubs would be in our possition, if not worse. cullen kept harping on about not spending what you didn't have, the point is though is that that is just what widnes are doing, they haven't got anything other than a big money backer. his whole attitude was really quite offensive in my humble opinion

billybobbull wrote:
The thing is Loiner, if the Bulls disappear, your club will lose approx' a quarter of a million at least from the gate money in just two weeks and each year thereafter. That's a month's wages for your club. It's your biggest regular income.
The Rhinos need the Bulls as much as the RFL.

it didnt seem to worry the chairmen of the other spl clubs when voting on rangers. its about sporting integrety

Integrity, with an I not and E.

No more to be said. Seeing the bigger picture requires intelligence too.

Had to turn over when Stevo,Cullen & Eddie all started talking sh**e - what a load of twaddle!
The main problem was the bank calling in the overdraft, then it was downhill all the way after that. Looking forward to tomorrow's game,rain or shine.
I was under the impression that you could only make someone redundant when the job is no longer there - at the moment it is so Guilfoyle is surely out of line here?

cj wrote:

Solomon Grundy wrote:
Not with you - what was cullen saying?

the gist of it from stevo and eddie was about clubs having big money backers, and without them a lot of clubs would be in our possition, if not worse. cullen kept harping on about not spending what you didn't have, the point is though is that that is just what widnes are doing, they haven't got anything other than a big money backer. his whole attitude was really quite offensive in my humble opinion

Dont forget one of his other clubs W***Y Warrington. I am sure they dont have financial backing NOT!!!!! COYB

Come on everybody at tomorrow's game minimum of 10k fans all paying £20 on the gates £200,000 raised month sorted!!!
We are Bulls what good are our cheap season tickets if we have no team to watch????
COYB!!!!!!!

You wont get any money out of that old gadger on picture that's for sure.

Solomon Grundy wrote:
Integrity, with an I not and E.

No more to be said. Seeing the bigger picture requires intelligence too.

well the bigger picture is in recent history the bulls won a lot of honours,and some people may now start to question if like glasgow rangers, if those trophies were won fairly. any how not to incur the wrath of others on this forum i will sit on the fence on that one. any how my point is that when success dried up the management tried to bring back the glory days by overspending bad budgeting and god who knows what else what. now the other clubs in super league may look at bradfords position and think "hey" we could do that to buy success and not get punished, in fact quite the opposite we will get help when it all goes wrong. a lot is talked in rugby league by the fans and the rfl alike about a even playing field but how can this be when it is tilted towards one club?. how is that sporting integrity (hope ive spelt it right). a lot of fans in every other sport want justice to those who have wronged why should that make the bradford bulls a exception, please dont question my intelligence.

Ihave said it before the RFL need to look both objectively and thoroughly at the finances of all clubs sugar daddy or not.Our game is being put in jepardy by a licencing process which is causing some clubs to commit financial suicide o meet the criteria.The whole thing is a mess.The administrators make the coach redundant but to my knowledge club must have a qualified to compete in a league.
The RFL say Bradford must complete their fixture incuring additional debt in wages utilities etc.We need to take time to review the viability of the whole stucture of super league in terms of TV revenue sponsorship salary structure and membership.Bradford like any business must pay its creditors and live within its means.The rugby world in general and Bulls fans in particular have shown great generosity may its time for the player to do like Mike Potter and give thier service for free for a while which may encourage a buyer if the feel they are not buying an increasing debt but a business with not only loyal customers and commited employees.
However this does not negate the need for a thorough strategic review of our sport.(Imagine the cost of the Catalan away fixture and the return fixtures increased revenue of the Catalan away following not good commercial sense but no doubt requires lots of fact finding visits by senior rfl officials) Good Luck Bulls but what the rumour about the finances of a number of clubs may mean a very healthy looking Championship One.

Whoops sorry about a few omitted letters and grammar errors but hopefully you get the point.Cheers

junctiontiger wrote:
Whoops sorry about a few omitted letters and grammar errors but hopefully you get the point.Cheers

Absolutely, any errors are negated by the sense of what you say.

Hopefully it's a wake up call for us all, it would be terrible for any other club to suffer the "slings and Arrows etc.." as the Bulls have done. This comment doesn't say we are worse off than others who have shared this fate, and my sympathy and feelings were with them at the time it was happening>
What we have suffered is a progression of that situation which has been a long and protracted drip feed of bad and then worse news, with uncertainty and the redundancy of long serving hard working decent people, without any of us actually knowing why it happened before it was strictly necessary.
By this situation with the Bulls the worst scenario would be that if it happened to another Super League club it might be instant death, and that is something no supporter would wish for.
You have raised some very good points there J...Tiger.

loiner8 wrote:
with all the money and help it seems that if the bradford bulls **** the rugby football league come out and have a crap.

Sure you cant recognise your head from your a r s e. Not all Rhinos fans are dimwits like you and as Prycey said Rhinos would be hit in the pocket with their two biggest attended games out the windows. So engage brain before opening mouth you nit wit

Its tough when the coaches all get laid off but its a serious crisis and the administrator has to make some unpopular decisions, hopefully someone will come in and save this great club, some fans need to get real here its a fight for survival against the clock, ignore the rhetoric from Rhinos fans and get there tomorrow to support the club, we are where we are, its a new beginning we should be working towards never mind the haters.

billybobbull wrote:
The thing is Loiner, if the Bulls disappear, your club will lose approx' a quarter of a million at least from the gate money in just two weeks and each year thereafter. That's a month's wages for your club. It's your biggest regular income.
The Rhinos need the Bulls as much as the RFL.

What a complete crock, quarter of a million?
Where do you get that figure from you dreamer?
Are you the dulls bookkeeper by any chance.
Our biggest regular income is the large amount of home fans paying a realistic price to get in, unlike your sad club with ten thousand attending and receipts totalling about three hundred quid.
Sure we'd miss you, but not much, Fax would nearly make up for it.

Shelfrhino wrote:

billybobbull wrote:
The thing is Loiner, if the Bulls disappear, your club will lose approx' a quarter of a million at least from the gate money in just two weeks and each year thereafter. That's a month's wages for your club. It's your biggest regular income.
The Rhinos need the Bulls as much as the RFL.

What a complete crock, quarter of a million?
Where do you get that figure from you dreamer?
Are you the dulls bookkeeper by any chance.
Our biggest regular income is the large amount of home fans paying a realistic price to get in, unlike your sad club with ten thousand attending and receipts totalling about three hundred quid.
Sure we'd miss you, but not much, Fax would nearly make up for it.

Well just when you find that a post from an offensive Leeds supporter (Rhino8 first post)has been half moderated, to some sensible comments and a semblance of decency. We get the moronic outpouring from the shelf village idiot, who probably couldn't get the job elsewhere because he was over qualified!

i would like other people to comment on my last post rather than slag me off. i hope a team can survive in bradford but i doubt because of social reasons that rugby league is not the biggest draw in the city. just like your opponents today. i will miss the great derby games if a team in bradford has to fold

Shelfrhino wrote:

billybobbull wrote: The thing is Loiner, if the Bulls disappear, your club will lose approx' a quarter of a million at least from the gate money in just two weeks and each year thereafter. That's a month's wages for your club. It's your biggest regular income. The Rhinos need the Bulls as much as the RFL.

What a complete crock, quarter of a million? Where do you get that figure from you dreamer? Are you the dulls bookkeeper by any chance. Our biggest regular income is the large amount of home fans paying a realistic price to get in, unlike your sad club with ten thousand attending and receipts totalling about three hundred quid. Sure we'd miss you, but not much, Fax would nearly make up for it.

I have to agree with my mate Shelf. If Bulls took 4000 over which they have not for a long time at £25(is that the price ? ) per head that is 100k and not everyone pays £25 as children are concessionary and child season tickets free.The so called biggest derby in the sport is no more and if you look at other attendances and stats other teams have a bigger away support these days.

i would like other people to comment on my last post rather than slag me off. i hope a team can survive in bradford but i doubt because of social reasons that rugby league is not the biggest draw in the city. just like your opponents today. i will miss the great derby games if a team in bradford has to fold

Potter for the sack wrote:

loiner8 wrote:
with all the money and help it seems that if the bradford bulls **** the rugby football league come out and have a crap.

Sure you cant recognise your head from your a r s e. Not all Rhinos fans are dimwits like you and as Prycey said Rhinos would be hit in the pocket with their two biggest attended games out the windows. So engage brain before opening mouth you nit wit

please read my last post about what a lot of other clubs fans are saying, im rugby through and through and the bulls plight me upset me just like yourself.

Potter for the sack wrote:

loiner8 wrote:
with all the money and help it seems that if the bradford bulls **** the rugby football league come out and have a crap.

Sure you cant recognise your head from your a r s e. Not all Rhinos fans are dimwits like you and as Prycey said Rhinos would be hit in the pocket with their two biggest attended games out the windows. So engage brain before opening mouth you nit wit

please read my last post about what a lot of other clubs fans are saying, im rugby through and through and the bulls plight me upset me just like yourself.

ok i donated to the fund when leeds played bradford at easter i think the situation is more critical now i know my tenner went to pay the hrmc so i paid my taxes twice that week. but things are worse now what happened to all that hard earned cash?

loiner8 wrote:
ok i donated to the fund when leeds played bradford at easter i think the situation is more critical now i know my tenner went to pay the hrmc so i paid my taxes twice that week. but things are worse now what happened to all that hard earned cash?

If you paid your money to 'hrmc' it's probably gone to someone in Nigeria.

All of this argument about what Leeds will lose if the Bulls fold is missing the point. Did anyone watch that awful exiles game the other night? Does anyone get excited about games that don’t involve any of the top 6-7 so called top teams? Does anyone not realise why Rugby league isn’t a top national sport? The answer to these questions is that league consists of just a handful of decent teams and thus games per season. It just isn’t competitive enough. If Leeds fans want Halifax, Leigh or Fev then that’s fine. Another nice easy game for them with a poor atmosphere. I think the Bulls must take their punishment for this bad management but I also believe the superleague can’t afford to lose a big club. Supporters don’t attend cup matches any more. Superleague is just too predictable to be exciting. I stopped watching the exiles game and watched the state of origin game instead. Wow, what a game played by true athletes. We are turning into a TV sport for a few teams who have millionaire owners and the rest just make up the numbers. I would be gutted if Leeds went bust and we had to play someone like Leigh or another club. Anyone wonder why the RFL are trying to save the Bulls just remember the points I have made. If they don’t save the Bulls then enjoy yet another 2 walkover games next year as the league welcomes yet another also ran team to our sport and the game gets even more boring and predictable.

I had my pop at Loiner8 and he has retracted his unseemly comment. Let that be the end and lets concentrate on rugby at Odsal today with as big a crowd as possible. Onwards and hopefully upwards.

scandanavian's love child52 wrote:

Shelfrhino wrote:

billybobbull wrote: The thing is Loiner, if the Bulls disappear, your club will lose approx' a quarter of a million at least from the gate money in just two weeks and each year thereafter. That's a month's wages for your club. It's your biggest regular income. The Rhinos need the Bulls as much as the RFL.

What a complete crock, quarter of a million? Where do you get that figure from you dreamer? Are you the dulls bookkeeper by any chance. Our biggest regular income is the large amount of home fans paying a realistic price to get in, unlike your sad club with ten thousand attending and receipts totalling about three hundred quid. Sure we'd miss you, but not much, Fax would nearly make up for it.

I have to agree with my mate Shelf. If Bulls took 4000 over which they have not for a long time at £25(is that the price ? ) per head that is 100k and not everyone pays £25 as children are concessionary and child season tickets free.The so called biggest derby in the sport is no more and if you look at other attendances and stats other teams have a bigger away support these days.

Shelf rhino, you really are an angry boy aren't you. Try being polite for a change. My figures may not be perfect, but in the long run Rhinos will lose out massively.
When the Bulls are/were at the top end, this IS the biggest money spinning game. If we survive, Rhinos will benefit, if we do not Rhinos will lose.
Since I started watching this Northern/Bulls v Leeds has always Been one of the most import games each season to fans of both clubs. That is no different today as was in the past and much more importantly in the future.
Please stop being angry boy and think of the bigger picture.

loiner8 wrote:

Solomon Grundy wrote:
Integrity, with an I not and E.

No more to be said. Seeing the bigger picture requires intelligence too.

well the bigger picture is in recent history the bulls won a lot of honours,and some people may now start to question if like glasgow rangers, if those trophies were won fairly. any how not to incur the wrath of others on this forum i will sit on the fence on that one. any how my point is that when success dried up the management tried to bring back the glory days by overspending bad budgeting and god who knows what else what. now the other clubs in super league may look at bradfords position and think "hey" we could do that to buy success and not get punished, in fact quite the opposite we will get help when it all goes wrong. a lot is talked in rugby league by the fans and the rfl alike about a even playing field but how can this be when it is tilted towards one club?. how is that sporting integrity (hope ive spelt it right). a lot of fans in every other sport want justice to those who have wronged why should that make the bradford bulls a exception, please dont question my intelligence.

As much as i hate whinos this is one of the first posts from a fan of theirs that has any.substance and.accuracy. i quite agree but we already knew this

The Bulls offical website appears to have disappeared - what does this say ????
Clearly communicating with the fans is not a priority!!

Some of the comments above allude to sporting integrity and the Bulls'lack of it. But trying to compare us to Glasgow Rangers'plight is totally wrong. The directors of Glasgow Rangers were involved in tax evasion and criminal charges could be levelled. The Bulls only crime is a set of incompetent directors who didn't do their sums correctly and had no money to pay the tax bill. Incompetent but definitely not illicit.

scandanavian's love child52 wrote:

Shelfrhino wrote:

billybobbull wrote: The thing is Loiner, if the Bulls disappear, your club will lose approx' a quarter of a million at least from the gate money in just two weeks and each year thereafter. That's a month's wages for your club. It's your biggest regular income. The Rhinos need the Bulls as much as the RFL.

What a complete crock, quarter of a million? Where do you get that figure from you dreamer? Are you the dulls bookkeeper by any chance. Our biggest regular income is the large amount of home fans paying a realistic price to get in, unlike your sad club with ten thousand attending and receipts totalling about three hundred quid. Sure we'd miss you, but not much, Fax would nearly make up for it.

I have to agree with my mate Shelf. If Bulls took 4000 over which they have not for a long time at £25(is that the price ? ) per head that is 100k and not everyone pays £25 as children are concessionary and child season tickets free.The so called biggest derby in the sport is no more and if you look at other attendances and stats other teams have a bigger away support these days.

Now if you concentrate on the debate, see what intelligent responses you might just get.

I think what our friend was trying to say is that with a crowd of 20,000 a lot of revenue is due to both clubs.
£250k is a figure that may or not be generated, because it's not just about "Bums on Seats"

Keep up the good work there's hope for you yet!

See what our friend in Shelf responds with?

Savethebulls wrote:
The Bulls offical website appears to have disappeared - what does this say ????
Clearly communicating with the fans is not a priority!!

Just to put the picture right, the site was run by an outside company, who probably withdrew due to it being owned by an ex Director of the Bulls...nough said!

one day leeds will be in this position the bulls are in and to be honest i wouldn t part with my last penny for that club. and when they are you will come on this site crying for help . so just keep it shut ok shelf and you other monkeys who watch leeds now and again

Time to change my shopping habbits mi thinks. goodbye morrisons hello asda.
Thanks Ken for all your help with the Bradford clubs in your time!

Good on you Mr Tordoff

benjibullll wrote:
one day leeds will be in this position the bulls are in and to be honest i wouldn t part with my last penny for that club. and when they are you will come on this site crying for help . so just keep it shut ok shelf and you other monkeys who watch leeds now and again

Don`t tar all Leeds fans with the same brush most aren`t as stupid as Shelf.
Although when Leeds were going thru a bad patch last year some ignorant ones blamed the coaches because they had played for the Bulls and were making them play bad on purpose!!!

Leeds were in this position immediately prior to superleague. Laughton had virtually bankrupted them but Caddick and Co. stepped in. I was told that Barrie Mcdermott had agreed to join us but this fell through after Caddick's intervention. Most superleague clubs are technically insolvent but unlike the Bulls they have backers who pour money in. Had we had a backer then we probably wouldn't have been made aware of the financial circumstances. As supporters we go for the product on the pitch (rugby league is by far the best) and try not to get involved with the political side of it but the two are intertwined.
Let's hope that someone buys the club this week, personally I don't care who and then perhaps we can move forward. Must dash for the game.
COYB!

billybobbull wrote:

scandanavian's love child52 wrote:

Shelfrhino wrote:

billybobbull wrote: The thing is Loiner, if the Bulls disappear, your club will lose approx' a quarter of a million at least from the gate money in just two weeks and each year thereafter. That's a month's wages for your club. It's your biggest regular income. The Rhinos need the Bulls as much as the RFL.

What a complete crock, quarter of a million? Where do you get that figure from you dreamer? Are you the dulls bookkeeper by any chance. Our biggest regular income is the large amount of home fans paying a realistic price to get in, unlike your sad club with ten thousand attending and receipts totalling about three hundred quid. Sure we'd miss you, but not much, Fax would nearly make up for it.

I have to agree with my mate Shelf. If Bulls took 4000 over which they have not for a long time at £25(is that the price ? ) per head that is 100k and not everyone pays £25 as children are concessionary and child season tickets free.The so called biggest derby in the sport is no more and if you look at other attendances and stats other teams have a bigger away support these days.

Shelf rhino, you really are an angry boy aren't you. Try being polite for a change. My figures may not be perfect, but in the long run Rhinos will lose out massively.
When the Bulls are/were at the top end, this IS the biggest money spinning game. If we survive, Rhinos will benefit, if we do not Rhinos will lose.
Since I started watching this Northern/Bulls v Leeds has always Been one of the most import games each season to fans of both clubs. That is no different today as was in the past and much more importantly in the future.
Please stop being angry boy and think of the bigger picture.

Not an angry boy at all, I just find it a bit pathetic that you make up a figure and bang on about it as if it were fact, like Scandi said you are miles out.
Bradford are not a big club anymore, I say this not as a gloat, but as a fact. If you were a big club your gate's would be above ten thousand WITHOUT huge discounts on price, this is ultimately why you are a failing business because your customers will not pay the going rate for the product you sell.
There you go, no anger, no p**s taking, just facts.

benjibullll wrote:
one day leeds will be in this position the bulls are in and to be honest i wouldn t part with my last penny for that club. and when they are you will come on this site crying for help . so just keep it shut ok shelf and you other monkeys who watch leeds now and again

The Rhino's will never be in this position, HTH.
If they were, why would we come on here asking for help? You sad lot hardly even helped your own club out, only about twenty percent of ST holders pledged.

Shelfrhino wrote:

billybobbull wrote:

scandanavian's love child52 wrote:

Shelfrhino wrote:

billybobbull wrote: The thing is Loiner, if the Bulls disappear, your club will lose approx' a quarter of a million at least from the gate money in just two weeks and each year thereafter. That's a month's wages for your club. It's your biggest regular income. The Rhinos need the Bulls as much as the RFL.

What a complete crock, quarter of a million? Where do you get that figure from you dreamer? Are you the dulls bookkeeper by any chance. Our biggest regular income is the large amount of home fans paying a realistic price to get in, unlike your sad club with ten thousand attending and receipts totalling about three hundred quid. Sure we'd miss you, but not much, Fax would nearly make up for it.

I have to agree with my mate Shelf. If Bulls took 4000 over which they have not for a long time at £25(is that the price ? ) per head that is 100k and not everyone pays £25 as children are concessionary and child season tickets free.The so called biggest derby in the sport is no more and if you look at other attendances and stats other teams have a bigger away support these days.

Shelf rhino, you really are an angry boy aren't you. Try being polite for a change. My figures may not be perfect, but in the long run Rhinos will lose out massively.
When the Bulls are/were at the top end, this IS the biggest money spinning game. If we survive, Rhinos will benefit, if we do not Rhinos will lose.
Since I started watching this Northern/Bulls v Leeds has always Been one of the most import games each season to fans of both clubs. That is no different today as was in the past and much more importantly in the future.
Please stop being angry boy and think of the bigger picture.

Not an angry boy at all, I just find it a bit pathetic that you make up a figure and bang on about it as if it were fact, like Scandi said you are miles out.
Bradford are not a big club anymore, I say this not as a gloat, but as a fact. If you were a big club your gate's would be above ten thousand WITHOUT huge discounts on price, this is ultimately why you are a failing business because your customers will not pay the going rate for the product you sell.
There you go, no anger, no p**s taking, just facts.

Without getting into a slanging match. Pointless.
The Bulls are not in this position because we are not a big club...we are in this position because we have no money. IF and I say IF we can survive we will be a big club again and the Rhinos will make money because of our existence at the top of Rugby League.
We didn't get into the position because crowds are small or because Badford fans will not pay the price, we got into this position because we were mismanaged and because in the recent past, as the stars left, Noble, Fielden, Pryce, Paul, Peacock etc the team were not good enough to continue previous success and crowds do dwindle. Please don't mix up the way things happened.

A BIG club is a BIG club and (touch wood) always will be. I remember the times when Leeds, Wigan, Warrington, (and in Football Man Utd, Chelsea and more) were 'not big clubs' for a few years, but they came back.

Hopefully the Rhinos' success will continue, (for the sake of Yorkshire rugby league) and you will be getting the crowds you get now for the next then years, but we cannot rule out that things go wrong. Players leave, retire, and get injured. With them they take the glory hunter crowds, as success fades. You did not get the crowds you have now in the 80s and 90s. Likewise for the Bulls over the past fews years.
I been around long enough to have seen this cycle in RL at least three times since the 60s.

Your 'facts' may be correct today. But please do no think they always will be.


If you look at what we paid Rhinos re Harrs you will see that the fgure took into consideraion thing sother tan gate receipts. This is the extra that success brings. merchadising, sponsorship and LARGER CROWDS to all games, in addition to away games, Challenge Cup games, play offs and finals. This is where everyone benefits when the seond biggest city team is successful be will be again (hopefully) and you will benefit.

None is this is particularly scientific, just a reminder that this game goes in cycles, as does life. Money, players and fans come and go. YOU NEED US. No need to slag off Bradford or Bradfordians. Just make fair comment without scoring points please.

Anyway.....apologies for going on and the carp. Let's draw a line under it and hope that tomorrow, or in the next few weeks the Bulls are saved so we all benefit.

billybobbull wrote:
Anyway.....apologies for going on and the carp. Let's draw a line under it and hope that tomorrow, or in the next few weeks the Bulls are saved so we all benefit.

Don"t apologise.
Bickering is stupid.
Everyone is potentially in the position the Bulls find themselves.
People are fickle.
Success or failure on the pitch shows that.Whichever City or Town.