Administrator apologises to Bradford Bulls players (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)

What a complete farce this whole situation is, has anyone checked this guys qualifications, because the fans could do a whole lot better.

A potential investor had to go to the fans forum Monday to register his interest, the owner of Icelolly.com hasn't had his calls returned... It goes on and on.

Im starting to think he wants us to go under.

flying pigs have filled the sky down my way

Potd 20 minutes ago on Facebook


Noble Reconsiders Bulls Offer

Bradford Bulls Tuesday 3 Jul 2012 6:48pm

Brian Noble confirms he has been approached to coach the Bulls, but is now reconsidering the offer.

In an interview with The Guardian newspaper, Noble confirms that the Bulls administrators have contacted him about coaching the Bulls until the end of the season.

However, after having time to think about the offer, it seems that Noble will refuse it after stating he thinks "it might just be too tough a gig".

"The administrator phoned me up, told me the situation and asked if I could help out for a while, maybe until the end of the season," Noble told the Guardian.

"As a Bradfordian through and through who's been made a freeman of the city, and having spent 35 years at the club, I said 'yes'. That's been my only motive whatsoever, to try and help out."

"I've been thinking it over and it might just be too tough a gig. If people think I'm involved in it for any other sort of reason, I'm flabbergasted. There's no guarantees at the end of it because you don't know who's going to be the owners and what they'll want to do. First and foremost I'm sad and disappointed at what's happened to Mick, because he's a mate of mine.

"I really don't need all this vitriolic stuff being thrown at me. I'm happy with the company I'm working for – I've been offered two more jobs this week."

How true are rumours that Caisley met Guillfoyle in Ilkleys Weatherspoons this lunchtime?
If true it makes a mockery of his statement "I cannot state strongly enough that I am not speaking to any former directors or shareholders, or anyone who has ever acted as a director, about buying the club,” he said. But I suppose they were just having a chin wag

People don't want to hear Guilfoyle say Caisley is not going to acquire the club. They want to hear Caisley say it, and swear it. If BG is telling the truth and the whole truth, then the single biggest impediment to sorting the mess out is now Caisley's silence.
.
If the man thinks anything about the club or anyone else, can I urge him to come out NOW and confirm he is not in the frame, nor will he ever be. In straight, unequivocal words so no one can accuse him of being disingenuous or playing games with semantics.
.
At some future time, he may choose to tell us why he chose to put the club into administration if he had no intent himself of buying it, or indeed why he ousted the previous board if he had intention of owning or running it. But that is for another day.
.
For now, until and unless he makes an unequivocal statement, I suggest many people will continue to believe he is ready to pounce at the last minute. So it's all down to you now Chris: make your play, or confirm you are out.

The sound of silence"......".....
........does it start with CC?

Following recent events makes you think if everything you read or are told is true:
T & A sometime ago (when someone was reported to want existing BoD to step down as they had potential investors waiting) that Gary Tasker may come in as CEO, perhaps we may know more tomorrow?
Also
That Brian Noble may be appointed coach what if players because they are told nothing refuse to work under Noble?: http://www.code13rug
byleague.com/2012/07
/02/bradford-bulls-p
layers-issue-stateme
nt/

What would any interested party wishing to invest in the Bulls who may feel they are being ignored do? Perhaps they may write directly to the RFL? http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=5NgDFIzpf
5o&feature=plcp

What if a legal advisor advising an Administrator worked for the same law firm as a shareholder of a company?

Some food for thought!

Adeybull wrote:
People don't want to hear Guilfoyle say Caisley is not going to acquire the club. They want to hear Caisley say it, and swear it. If BG is telling the truth and the whole truth, then the single biggest impediment to sorting the mess out is now Caisley's silence.
.
If the man thinks anything about the club or anyone else, can I urge him to come out NOW and confirm he is not in the frame, nor will he ever be. In straight, unequivocal words so no one can accuse him of being disingenuous or playing games with semantics.
.
At some future time, he may choose to tell us why he chose to put the club into administration if he had no intent himself of buying it, or indeed why he ousted the previous board if he had intention of owning or running it. But that is for another day.
.
For now, until and unless he makes an unequivocal statement, I suggest many people will continue to believe he is ready to pounce at the last minute. So it's all down to you now Chris: make your play, or confirm you are out.

Totally agree. Noble`s change of heart is no doubt down to him having to take a lot of the vitriole and questioning of his part in this mess all because of Caisleys silence.
Maybe he`s had enough of the scheming so and so.

Adeybull has hit the nail on the head! The crucial question is what are the Caisley consortium's current intentions? Since they made their intervention many weeks ago and forced the old board out, their silence on what their real motives were for their subsequent actions have been deafening. I echo Adeybull's call for a full disclosure. Are you in Mr. Caisley or are you out?

foxi911 wrote:
Potd 20 minutes ago on Facebook Noble Reconsiders Bulls Offer Bradford Bulls Tuesday 3 Jul 2012 6:48pm Brian Noble confirms he has been approached to coach the Bulls, but is now reconsidering the offer. In an interview with The Guardian newspaper, Noble confirms that the Bulls administrators have contacted him about coaching the Bulls until the end of the season. However, after having time to think about the offer, it seems that Noble will refuse it after stating he thinks "it might just be too tough a gig". "The administrator phoned me up, told me the situation and asked if I could help out for a while, maybe until the end of the season," Noble told the Guardian. "As a Bradfordian through and through who's been made a freeman of the city, and having spent 35 years at the club, I said 'yes'. That's been my only motive whatsoever, to try and help out." "I've been thinking it over and it might just be too tough a gig. If people think I'm involved in it for any other sort of reason, I'm flabbergasted. There's no guarantees at the end of it because you don't know who's going to be the owners and what they'll want to do. First and foremost I'm sad and disappointed at what's happened to Mick, because he's a mate of mine. "I really don't need all this vitriolic stuff being thrown at me. I'm happy with the company I'm working for – I've been offered two more jobs this week."

Come on my old pal Brian.
don"t see many vitriolic statements on here about you legend.
I do (as you have expressed) read a great deal of sympathy for Mick Potter.
And as for the meeting in Ilkley how else is anyone going to approach someone with the club in his heart to work for free?
from a bl....y telephone.
Work for the Fans Brian as our great mentor and much respected gentlemen will be looking down on us and saying.
"Come on Nobby.lead the thousands of desperate Bradfordians out of this Abyss with a solidarity."
Trevor Foster our legend from our police boys club days will be willing you on.
As he indeed galvanised troops from the depths of despair in 1964.
Time for the fans to be King.
This will never be a business proposition that makes anyone a penny.
So the fans deserve it.
Yes you were right all along Adey.
cannot believe CC would wish to torture himself by pursuing ownership when the majority I read here for several weeks suggests he would be hated.

He decided last night to cancel the meeting but did not tell anyone.Is this guy for real.

IF, any any of the speculation is correct, and it may NOT be, we started to to look at collusion and conspiracy, so it makes sense that anyone around such speculation may start to back track on earlier plans, IF of course there were plans.
At the moment BG denies any plans, discussions or agreements. BN also now denies any plans or agreements and is now backing off due to 'vitriol' .
If I was involved in any suggestion of dodgy dealings which may be completely false, I would back off too and deny the dealings. If I was involved in any dodgy dealings, I would back off too and deny any dodgy dealings leaving the dodgy dealer to take the hit as it may or may not be that parties dealings to accept or deny.
That party would probably stay silent , as it may get more legally and criminally complicated and I could, phew.....walk away a free, but tainted man.
Of course all of my discussion I'd hypothetical and just me thinking, but perhaps there are more than me thinking similar things.
In the end, one has right to silence when the s .it hits the an, but the jury can nowadays, draw an inference from that silence.
The sad part is, other decent people may stay away from the whole thing not to get tarred with the same brush as the deniers and the silent people.

arhmen aleg wrote:

foxi911 wrote:
Potd 20 minutes ago on Facebook Noble Reconsiders Bulls Offer Bradford Bulls Tuesday 3 Jul 2012 6:48pm Brian Noble confirms he has been approached to coach the Bulls, but is now reconsidering the offer. In an interview with The Guardian newspaper, Noble confirms that the Bulls administrators have contacted him about coaching the Bulls until the end of the season. However, after having time to think about the offer, it seems that Noble will refuse it after stating he thinks "it might just be too tough a gig". "The administrator phoned me up, told me the situation and asked if I could help out for a while, maybe until the end of the season," Noble told the Guardian. "As a Bradfordian through and through who's been made a freeman of the city, and having spent 35 years at the club, I said 'yes'. That's been my only motive whatsoever, to try and help out." "I've been thinking it over and it might just be too tough a gig. If people think I'm involved in it for any other sort of reason, I'm flabbergasted. There's no guarantees at the end of it because you don't know who's going to be the owners and what they'll want to do. First and foremost I'm sad and disappointed at what's happened to Mick, because he's a mate of mine. "I really don't need all this vitriolic stuff being thrown at me. I'm happy with the company I'm working for – I've been offered two more jobs this week."

Come on my old pal Brian.
don"t see many vitriolic statements on here about you legend.
I do (as you have expressed) read a great deal of sympathy for Mick Potter.
And as for the meeting in Ilkley how else is anyone going to approach someone with the club in his heart to work for free?
from a bl....y telephone.
Work for the Fans Brian as our great mentor and much respected gentlemen will be looking down on us and saying.
"Come on Nobby.lead the thousands of desperate Bradfordians out of this Abyss with a solidarity."
Trevor Foster our legend from our police boys club days will be willing you on.
As he indeed galvanised troops from the depths of despair in 1964.
Time for the fans to be King.
This will never be a business proposition that makes anyone a penny.
So the fans deserve it.
Yes you were right all along Adey.
cannot believe CC would wish to torture himself by pursuing ownership when the majority I read here for several weeks suggests he would be hated.

And as for the meeting in Ilkley how else is anyone going to approach someone with the club in his heart to work for free? from a bl....y telephone.
Did not think Brian Noble was mentioned in rumoured Ilkley meet

BCFC1234 wrote:
He decided last night to cancel the meeting but did not tell anyone.Is this guy for real.

If you knew all the details he did attempt to make contact with all concerned, even the players solicitors. Nice to see we have them involved. If Chris Caisley has any sense he will keep clear of the whole set up which is becoming a farce. Doubt if educated supporters of a Rugby Union Club would have allowed it to get in this state.

Or is it denyers? iPad. Still cannot bloody use it! Sorry. And Nobby.... In the end we want and need a coach now, after yesterdays stupid decision made over a crumpet, we need a coach and a small coaching team. Do it please. If not the club may be out of SL.

Adeybull wrote:
People don't want to hear Guilfoyle say Caisley is not going to acquire the club. They want to hear Caisley say it, and swear it. If BG is telling the truth and the whole truth, then the single biggest impediment to sorting the mess out is now Caisley's silence.
.
If the man thinks anything about the club or anyone else, can I urge him to come out NOW and confirm he is not in the frame, nor will he ever be. In straight, unequivocal words so no one can accuse him of being disingenuous or playing games with semantics.
.
At some future time, he may choose to tell us why he chose to put the club into administration if he had no intent himself of buying it, or indeed why he ousted the previous board if he had intention of owning or running it. But that is for another day.
.
For now, until and unless he makes an unequivocal statement, I suggest many people will continue to believe he is ready to pounce at the last minute. So it's all down to you now Chris: make your play, or confirm you are out.

Nice thought Adey but afraid Caisley probably won't bother to read this blog. Just have to hope that if the two other parties who are supposedly interested can actually get through to the administrator. If the administrator chooses to ignore them who knows. CAN THE T & A PLEASE REPORT ON THESE OTHER PARTIES AS I AM SURE THE SUPPORTERS WOULD APPRECIATE (SORRY DESERVE) AN ANSWER.

Correctness wrote:

BCFC1234 wrote:
He decided last night to cancel the meeting but did not tell anyone.Is this guy for real.

If you knew all the details he did attempt to make contact with all concerned, even the players solicitors. Nice to see we have them involved. If Chris Caisley has any sense he will keep clear of the whole set up which is becoming a farce. Doubt if educated supporters of a Rugby Union Club would have allowed it to get in this state.

He attempted to make contact with all the players and their solicitors but managed to contact no one. Your on the same planet as he is.

BCFC1234 wrote:

Correctness wrote:

BCFC1234 wrote:
He decided last night to cancel the meeting but did not tell anyone.Is this guy for real.

If you knew all the details he did attempt to make contact with all concerned, even the players solicitors. Nice to see we have them involved. If Chris Caisley has any sense he will keep clear of the whole set up which is becoming a farce. Doubt if educated supporters of a Rugby Union Club would have allowed it to get in this state.

He attempted to make contact with all the players and their solicitors but managed to contact no one. Your on the same planet as he is.

I suppose if he doesnt have voicemail to take messages from potential investors he probably doesnt own a mobile to text anyone to say the meeting was cancelled.After all he is only the puppet in all of this.

Is that puppet...or muppet?

Mumby was the best wrote:

arhmen aleg wrote:

foxi911 wrote: Potd 20 minutes ago on Facebook Noble Reconsiders Bulls Offer Bradford Bulls Tuesday 3 Jul 2012 6:48pm Brian Noble confirms he has been approached to coach the Bulls, but is now reconsidering the offer. In an interview with The Guardian newspaper, Noble confirms that the Bulls administrators have contacted him about coaching the Bulls until the end of the season. However, after having time to think about the offer, it seems that Noble will refuse it after stating he thinks "it might just be too tough a gig". "The administrator phoned me up, told me the situation and asked if I could help out for a while, maybe until the end of the season," Noble told the Guardian. "As a Bradfordian through and through who's been made a freeman of the city, and having spent 35 years at the club, I said 'yes'. That's been my only motive whatsoever, to try and help out." "I've been thinking it over and it might just be too tough a gig. If people think I'm involved in it for any other sort of reason, I'm flabbergasted. There's no guarantees at the end of it because you don't know who's going to be the owners and what they'll want to do. First and foremost I'm sad and disappointed at what's happened to Mick, because he's a mate of mine. "I really don't need all this vitriolic stuff being thrown at me. I'm happy with the company I'm working for – I've been offered two more jobs this week."

Come on my old pal Brian. don"t see many vitriolic statements on here about you legend. I do (as you have expressed) read a great deal of sympathy for Mick Potter. And as for the meeting in Ilkley how else is anyone going to approach someone with the club in his heart to work for free? from a bl....y telephone. Work for the Fans Brian as our great mentor and much respected gentlemen will be looking down on us and saying. "Come on Nobby.lead the thousands of desperate Bradfordians out of this Abyss with a solidarity." Trevor Foster our legend from our police boys club days will be willing you on. As he indeed galvanised troops from the depths of despair in 1964. Time for the fans to be King. This will never be a business proposition that makes anyone a penny. So the fans deserve it. Yes you were right all along Adey. cannot believe CC would wish to torture himself by pursuing ownership when the majority I read here for several weeks suggests he would be hated.

And as for the meeting in Ilkley how else is anyone going to approach someone with the club in his heart to work for free? from a bl....y telephone. Did not think Brian Noble was mentioned in rumoured Ilkley meet

Rumour got the better of me.
Brian lives there now so the rumourmill went into overdrive.
Has anyone seen Brian?
In Betty"s for gods sake!
Give me the back streets of sixties Manningham any day of the week.
Those Sloan Squarers never got the better of us

The vitriol aimed at Brendan Guilfoyle is totally inappropriate. It's evident that people don't understand the role and responsibilities of an Administrator. Appointed by the court when a company applies for administration, the administrator's primary responsibility is to secure the best outcome for the creditors of the insolvent company. This may be by getting the company back on its feet or by winding it up and disposing of any assets - whichever possible outcome better serves the interests of the creditors. The administrator is not responsible for the state that the club is in - that is down to the Directors who ran it into the ground; nor is he a miracle worker - he can't manufacture money out of nowhere.

By the time administrators are appointed it's frequently the end for a company - the only way this is not the case is when new money comes in. In the sports world this seems to happen more often than not; therefore Bulls fan, en masse, seem to have decided that this whole thing is just a "bump in the road" that will somehow be passed over and survived by some clever corporate wrangling. Sorry, but you're probably wrong folks! In the vast majority of cases administration is the end if the road.

I sincerely hope that there is a future for the Bulls, and that the passion of the club's fans can prove a real contributing factor in the club's survival - or its resurrection in whatever form.

arhmen aleg wrote:

Mumby was the best wrote:

arhmen aleg wrote:

foxi911 wrote: Potd 20 minutes ago on Facebook Noble Reconsiders Bulls Offer Bradford Bulls Tuesday 3 Jul 2012 6:48pm Brian Noble confirms he has been approached to coach the Bulls, but is now reconsidering the offer. In an interview with The Guardian newspaper, Noble confirms that the Bulls administrators have contacted him about coaching the Bulls until the end of the season. However, after having time to think about the offer, it seems that Noble will refuse it after stating he thinks "it might just be too tough a gig". "The administrator phoned me up, told me the situation and asked if I could help out for a while, maybe until the end of the season," Noble told the Guardian. "As a Bradfordian through and through who's been made a freeman of the city, and having spent 35 years at the club, I said 'yes'. That's been my only motive whatsoever, to try and help out." "I've been thinking it over and it might just be too tough a gig. If people think I'm involved in it for any other sort of reason, I'm flabbergasted. There's no guarantees at the end of it because you don't know who's going to be the owners and what they'll want to do. First and foremost I'm sad and disappointed at what's happened to Mick, because he's a mate of mine. "I really don't need all this vitriolic stuff being thrown at me. I'm happy with the company I'm working for – I've been offered two more jobs this week."

Come on my old pal Brian. don"t see many vitriolic statements on here about you legend. I do (as you have expressed) read a great deal of sympathy for Mick Potter. And as for the meeting in Ilkley how else is anyone going to approach someone with the club in his heart to work for free? from a bl....y telephone. Work for the Fans Brian as our great mentor and much respected gentlemen will be looking down on us and saying. "Come on Nobby.lead the thousands of desperate Bradfordians out of this Abyss with a solidarity." Trevor Foster our legend from our police boys club days will be willing you on. As he indeed galvanised troops from the depths of despair in 1964. Time for the fans to be King. This will never be a business proposition that makes anyone a penny. So the fans deserve it. Yes you were right all along Adey. cannot believe CC would wish to torture himself by pursuing ownership when the majority I read here for several weeks suggests he would be hated.

And as for the meeting in Ilkley how else is anyone going to approach someone with the club in his heart to work for free? from a bl....y telephone. Did not think Brian Noble was mentioned in rumoured Ilkley meet

Rumour got the better of me.
Brian lives there now so the rumourmill went into overdrive.
Has anyone seen Brian?
In Betty"s for gods sake!
Give me the back streets of sixties Manningham any day of the week.
Those Sloan Squarers never got the better of us

A long time since I lived in Bradford, (20 years) but I always loved Arthurs Bar on the lane.
That would have been much more appropropriate in the circumstances!!!! :)

Does it still exist?

food_for_thought wrote:
The vitriol aimed at Brendan Guilfoyle is totally inappropriate. It's evident that people don't understand the role and responsibilities of an Administrator. Appointed by the court when a company applies for administration, the administrator's primary responsibility is to secure the best outcome for the creditors of the insolvent company. This may be by getting the company back on its feet or by winding it up and disposing of any assets - whichever possible outcome better serves the interests of the creditors. The administrator is not responsible for the state that the club is in - that is down to the Directors who ran it into the ground; nor is he a miracle worker - he can't manufacture money out of nowhere. By the time administrators are appointed it's frequently the end for a company - the only way this is not the case is when new money comes in. In the sports world this seems to happen more often than not; therefore Bulls fan, en masse, seem to have decided that this whole thing is just a "bump in the road" that will somehow be passed over and survived by some clever corporate wrangling. Sorry, but you're probably wrong folks! In the vast majority of cases administration is the end if the road. I sincerely hope that there is a future for the Bulls, and that the passion of the club's fans can prove a real contributing factor in the club's survival - or its resurrection in whatever form.

well put but please dont tell me the world of insolvency is not tainted by shennanigans where he who pays the administraters fee first wins.
I mean we could argue that our politicians work for the Queen and us and are paid to do so.

But the truth is the world is bent and partial to a good deal for oneself along the way.
With or without good intent

Adeybull wrote:
People don't want to hear Guilfoyle say Caisley is not going to acquire the club. They want to hear Caisley say it, and swear it. If BG is telling the truth and the whole truth, then the single biggest impediment to sorting the mess out is now Caisley's silence.
.
If the man thinks anything about the club or anyone else, can I urge him to come out NOW and confirm he is not in the frame, nor will he ever be. In straight, unequivocal words so no one can accuse him of being disingenuous or playing games with semantics.
.
At some future time, he may choose to tell us why he chose to put the club into administration if he had no intent himself of buying it, or indeed why he ousted the previous board if he had intention of owning or running it. But that is for another day.
.
For now, until and unless he makes an unequivocal statement, I suggest many people will continue to believe he is ready to pounce at the last minute. So it's all down to you now Chris: make your play, or confirm you are out.

He had no choice but to enter administration, cos your favourite guy Mr Hood ran it into the ground. I for one don't give a flying **** who takes over so long as Hood isn't on the scene. (don't know how far back you can check comments on the archive on here but I did say , when Hood took control that the end was nigh for the mighty Bulls.)I worked under both for a number of years so speak from experience. Also the rumour regarding Gary Tasker taking a temporary CEO role is more than welcome. He had a lot more to do with the building of the Bulls than he gets credit for. At the end of the day, what's best....Caisley and Nobby or no club at all????

billybobbull wrote:

arhmen aleg wrote:

Mumby was the best wrote:

arhmen aleg wrote:

foxi911 wrote: Potd 20 minutes ago on Facebook Noble Reconsiders Bulls Offer Bradford Bulls Tuesday 3 Jul 2012 6:48pm Brian Noble confirms he has been approached to coach the Bulls, but is now reconsidering the offer. In an interview with The Guardian newspaper, Noble confirms that the Bulls administrators have contacted him about coaching the Bulls until the end of the season. However, after having time to think about the offer, it seems that Noble will refuse it after stating he thinks "it might just be too tough a gig". "The administrator phoned me up, told me the situation and asked if I could help out for a while, maybe until the end of the season," Noble told the Guardian. "As a Bradfordian through and through who's been made a freeman of the city, and having spent 35 years at the club, I said 'yes'. That's been my only motive whatsoever, to try and help out." "I've been thinking it over and it might just be too tough a gig. If people think I'm involved in it for any other sort of reason, I'm flabbergasted. There's no guarantees at the end of it because you don't know who's going to be the owners and what they'll want to do. First and foremost I'm sad and disappointed at what's happened to Mick, because he's a mate of mine. "I really don't need all this vitriolic stuff being thrown at me. I'm happy with the company I'm working for – I've been offered two more jobs this week."

Come on my old pal Brian. don"t see many vitriolic statements on here about you legend. I do (as you have expressed) read a great deal of sympathy for Mick Potter. And as for the meeting in Ilkley how else is anyone going to approach someone with the club in his heart to work for free? from a bl....y telephone. Work for the Fans Brian as our great mentor and much respected gentlemen will be looking down on us and saying. "Come on Nobby.lead the thousands of desperate Bradfordians out of this Abyss with a solidarity." Trevor Foster our legend from our police boys club days will be willing you on. As he indeed galvanised troops from the depths of despair in 1964. Time for the fans to be King. This will never be a business proposition that makes anyone a penny. So the fans deserve it. Yes you were right all along Adey. cannot believe CC would wish to torture himself by pursuing ownership when the majority I read here for several weeks suggests he would be hated.

And as for the meeting in Ilkley how else is anyone going to approach someone with the club in his heart to work for free? from a bl....y telephone. Did not think Brian Noble was mentioned in rumoured Ilkley meet

Rumour got the better of me. Brian lives there now so the rumourmill went into overdrive. Has anyone seen Brian? In Betty"s for gods sake! Give me the back streets of sixties Manningham any day of the week. Those Sloan Squarers never got the better of us

A long time since I lived in Bradford, (20 years) but I always loved Arthurs Bar on the lane. That would have been much more appropropriate in the circumstances!!!! :) Does it still exist?

Not sure think its gone now.It was near the La luna curry house(gone too).
fantastic view in those days!

food_for_thought wrote:
The vitriol aimed at Brendan Guilfoyle is totally inappropriate. It's evident that people don't understand the role and responsibilities of an Administrator. Appointed by the court when a company applies for administration, the administrator's primary responsibility is to secure the best outcome for the creditors of the insolvent company. This may be by getting the company back on its feet or by winding it up and disposing of any assets - whichever possible outcome better serves the interests of the creditors. The administrator is not responsible for the state that the club is in - that is down to the Directors who ran it into the ground; nor is he a miracle worker - he can't manufacture money out of nowhere.

By the time administrators are appointed it's frequently the end for a company - the only way this is not the case is when new money comes in. In the sports world this seems to happen more often than not; therefore Bulls fan, en masse, seem to have decided that this whole thing is just a "bump in the road" that will somehow be passed over and survived by some clever corporate wrangling. Sorry, but you're probably wrong folks! In the vast majority of cases administration is the end if the road.

I sincerely hope that there is a future for the Bulls, and that the passion of the club's fans can prove a real contributing factor in the club's survival - or its resurrection in whatever form.

Agree what with what you say but wouldn`t you think being able to operate a phone would be a prerequisite of being an administrator, by his own admission he says he can`t!!!!!

Schoey100 (FloridaBull) wrote:

Adeybull wrote:
People don't want to hear Guilfoyle say Caisley is not going to acquire the club. They want to hear Caisley say it, and swear it. If BG is telling the truth and the whole truth, then the single biggest impediment to sorting the mess out is now Caisley's silence.
.
If the man thinks anything about the club or anyone else, can I urge him to come out NOW and confirm he is not in the frame, nor will he ever be. In straight, unequivocal words so no one can accuse him of being disingenuous or playing games with semantics.
.
At some future time, he may choose to tell us why he chose to put the club into administration if he had no intent himself of buying it, or indeed why he ousted the previous board if he had intention of owning or running it. But that is for another day.
.
For now, until and unless he makes an unequivocal statement, I suggest many people will continue to believe he is ready to pounce at the last minute. So it's all down to you now Chris: make your play, or confirm you are out.

He had no choice but to enter administration, cos your favourite guy Mr Hood ran it into the ground. I for one don't give a flying **** who takes over so long as Hood isn't on the scene. (don't know how far back you can check comments on the archive on here but I did say , when Hood took control that the end was nigh for the mighty Bulls.)I worked under both for a number of years so speak from experience. Also the rumour regarding Gary Tasker taking a temporary CEO role is more than welcome. He had a lot more to do with the building of the Bulls than he gets credit for. At the end of the day, what's best....Caisley and Nobby or no club at all????

TBF I don't think people really have a problem with Nobby....esp' in the circumstances...but it's the way this has all been done that is the issue.
Nobby is a good man deep down and will have the club's and city's interests at heart, as well of course, the chance of his dream job back.

BUT I think the stink of all of this might have frightened him off and anyone else who was going to help him.

Caisley has screwed up advertising his intentions weeks and weeks ago. No-one trusts him now. Now he is likely going to lose his shares and we may be going to lose our club because of his ego !

Guilfoyle may have to bite the bullet and sell to Greenwoods, so as not to be drawn into a pretty serious investigation.

So many bulls fans on here spouting complete garbage, nothing but hear-say!

billybobbull wrote:

Schoey100 (FloridaBull) wrote:

Adeybull wrote: People don't want to hear Guilfoyle say Caisley is not going to acquire the club. They want to hear Caisley say it, and swear it. If BG is telling the truth and the whole truth, then the single biggest impediment to sorting the mess out is now Caisley's silence. . If the man thinks anything about the club or anyone else, can I urge him to come out NOW and confirm he is not in the frame, nor will he ever be. In straight, unequivocal words so no one can accuse him of being disingenuous or playing games with semantics. . At some future time, he may choose to tell us why he chose to put the club into administration if he had no intent himself of buying it, or indeed why he ousted the previous board if he had intention of owning or running it. But that is for another day. . For now, until and unless he makes an unequivocal statement, I suggest many people will continue to believe he is ready to pounce at the last minute. So it's all down to you now Chris: make your play, or confirm you are out.

He had no choice but to enter administration, cos your favourite guy Mr Hood ran it into the ground. I for one don't give a flying **** who takes over so long as Hood isn't on the scene. (don't know how far back you can check comments on the archive on here but I did say , when Hood took control that the end was nigh for the mighty Bulls.)I worked under both for a number of years so speak from experience. Also the rumour regarding Gary Tasker taking a temporary CEO role is more than welcome. He had a lot more to do with the building of the Bulls than he gets credit for. At the end of the day, what's best....Caisley and Nobby or no club at all????

TBF I don't think people really have a problem with Nobby....esp' in the circumstances...but it's the way this has all been done that is the issue. Nobby is a good man deep down and will have the club's and city's interests at heart, as well of course, the chance of his dream job back. BUT I think the stink of all of this might have frightened him off and anyone else who was going to help him. Caisley has screwed up advertising his intentions weeks and weeks ago. No-one trusts him now. Now he is likely going to lose his shares and we may be going to lose our club because of his ego ! Guilfoyle may have to bite the bullet and sell to Greenwoods, so as not to be drawn into a pretty serious investigation.

yes this administraters conduct can be scrutinized by complaint
the fans could see him off with solidarity.
Lets face it he is a solicitor who has to date in the last 5 years stumped up how much?
more likely taken it out with his agency fees.

food_for_thought wrote:
The vitriol aimed at Brendan Guilfoyle is totally inappropriate. It's evident that people don't understand the role and responsibilities of an Administrator. Appointed by the court when a company applies for administration, the administrator's primary responsibility is to secure the best outcome for the creditors of the insolvent company. This may be by getting the company back on its feet or by winding it up and disposing of any assets - whichever possible outcome better serves the interests of the creditors. The administrator is not responsible for the state that the club is in - that is down to the Directors who ran it into the ground; nor is he a miracle worker - he can't manufacture money out of nowhere.

By the time administrators are appointed it's frequently the end for a company - the only way this is not the case is when new money comes in. In the sports world this seems to happen more often than not; therefore Bulls fan, en masse, seem to have decided that this whole thing is just a "bump in the road" that will somehow be passed over and survived by some clever corporate wrangling. Sorry, but you're probably wrong folks! In the vast majority of cases administration is the end if the road.

I sincerely hope that there is a future for the Bulls, and that the passion of the club's fans can prove a real contributing factor in the club's survival - or its resurrection in whatever form.

Thanks food-for-thought for bringing some common sense back into the debate. Your post is sensible and accurate. All those wanting to see sympathy or decencey from the administrator will be disappointed, his duties are exactly as you point out and the confines within which he has to work likewise. Money can only come from an investor/s and cannot be magic'd up! Certainly this guy is not going to spend any time trying to be PoliticallyCorrect.

I think the question in terms of whether BG is playing the game straight relates to the fact that he uses a lawyer from the Partnership of CC.
Surely in all other cases that is ok, but is that not a conflict of interest?
It does not help this situation where people think there are vested interests from CC.

beardedclam wrote:
So many bulls fans on here spouting complete garbage, nothing but hear-say!

Was Arthurs Bar the one next to the TA/school that had lunch time strippers on and CC was one of the waiter?

Potter for the sack wrote:

beardedclam wrote: So many bulls fans on here spouting complete garbage, nothing but hear-say!

Was Arthurs Bar the one next to the TA/school that had lunch time strippers on and CC was one of the waiter?

No that was the Belle vue.
And yes I remember the guy who was a spit for CC.
The strippers wer"nt bad either.
Another Bradford gem lost.