Bradford City’s core strength gives Parkinson platform to build on (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)

Yaaaaaaawn....same re-ashed story since the season ended!

spleen ventor wrote:
Yaaaaaaawn....same re-ashed story since the season ended!

I bet your a 'wow' at parties.

Only throwing it out there but just read that Hermann Hreidarsson and Freddy Eastwood have been released by Coventry. Not sure how the dates stack up but did Hreidarsson play under Parky at Charlton?

UAE_Bantam wrote:
Only throwing it out there but just read that Hermann Hreidarsson and Freddy Eastwood have been released by Coventry. Not sure how the dates stack up but did Hreidarsson play under Parky at Charlton?

EASTWOOD: it would be the devil's own job to get him out of the south east:west ham boy now playing at Southend on loan.

HE OTHER PLAYER MENTIONED SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN A MEMBER OF VIRTUALLY EVERY TEAM RELEGATED FROM THE PREMIERSHIP AND NOW CHAMPIONSHIP!!!.

Crewes young squad of players (all developed by Crewe) have got to the last play off match at Wembley. The way forward is youth and development but guess who has just dropped their system?

tyker2 wrote:

UAE_Bantam wrote:
Only throwing it out there but just read that Hermann Hreidarsson and Freddy Eastwood have been released by Coventry. Not sure how the dates stack up but did Hreidarsson play under Parky at Charlton?

EASTWOOD: it would be the devil's own job to get him out of the south east:west ham boy now playing at Southend on loan.

HE OTHER PLAYER MENTIONED SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN A MEMBER OF VIRTUALLY EVERY TEAM RELEGATED FROM THE PREMIERSHIP AND NOW CHAMPIONSHIP!!!.

Crewes young squad of players (all developed by Crewe) have got to the last play off match at Wembley. The way forward is youth and development but guess who has just dropped their system?

Yeah, that's because Crewe didn't sell their best players to Man U (2), Everton, Liverpool (2) & Leeds etc. before they were even ready for the first team.

You're not suggesting PP plays the dregs that he's left with simply because they're from our own youth system are you?

Same old mindless BS that's repeated on here, day in, day out.

Bantam abroad wrote:

spleen ventor wrote:
Yaaaaaaawn....same re-ashed story since the season ended!

I bet your a 'wow' at parties.

Bet he's great to sit next to at VP too

same old crap on here try be positive for one day at least . see village idiot gut up haaaaaa

Thursday 17 May 2012 09:07



JIM Bentley has made former Bradford left back Robbie Threlfall his first summer signing.


The former Liverpool youngster, 23, who was at Bradford City last year before ending the season at Dundee, has signed a two-year deal at the Globe Arena.

He is a player Bentley has admired for some time and almost joined the Shrimps on loan at the start of the year as cover for Laurence Wilson after he picked up the injury that saw him miss the end of the campaign and has now been signed to replace Wilson who has left Morecambe in search of football at a higher level.

Bentley said: “Robbie is a great lad with a good attitude and I am delighted to have him here,

“We wanted a left back who is a good defender but can also get forward and I think he will fit that bit really well and fit into the side well.”

Threlfall, a former England Under 19 international, said he chose the Shrimps ahead of other clubs and was looking forward to the season ahead.

He said: “I know a couple of Morecambe players and as soon as they started talking about the place I knew it would be a great place to come to.

“It looks a great set up and I wish the season was starting tomorrow.”

As well as playing for Bradford, Threlfall has had loan spells at Hereford, Stockport and Northampton.

Don't know what your all moaning about. Nothing much is going to happen in the next couple of weeks due to players on holiday and play offs still going on. Probably the first time I feel sorry for Mr Parker as he is struggling to fill the T&A back page:)

Don't know what your all moaning about. Nothing much is going to happen in the next couple of weeks due to players on holiday and play offs still going on. Probably the first time I feel sorry for Mr Parker as he is struggling to fill the T&A back page:)

tyker2 wrote:

UAE_Bantam wrote: Only throwing it out there but just read that Hermann Hreidarsson and Freddy Eastwood have been released by Coventry. Not sure how the dates stack up but did Hreidarsson play under Parky at Charlton?

EASTWOOD: it would be the devil's own job to get him out of the south east:west ham boy now playing at Southend on loan. HE OTHER PLAYER MENTIONED SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN A MEMBER OF VIRTUALLY EVERY TEAM RELEGATED FROM THE PREMIERSHIP AND NOW CHAMPIONSHIP!!!. Crewes young squad of players (all developed by Crewe) have got to the last play off match at Wembley. The way forward is youth and development but guess who has just dropped their system?

This takes time and when we loose the fans wont stand for it.

Also Our youngters arn't good enough.

I agree we need to look at our youth policy and developement, but we still need to sign in the meantime.

crewe have had there youth set up for decades, thats why the produce good youngsters.

Wonder if Parky is including his own player recruitment in this list of improvement, majority of which was either poor or not needed, or as usual is he joining the board in blaming Jacko and his players for last seasons debacle.

Whether I'm being negative or not I suggest Parky needs to make an improvement in his management as well as his own player recruitment, cos he's not going to be able to hide behind Jacko's shortcomings as a manager anymore.

Roll on next season and no more excuses... from the board or Parky.

As usual we end up looking at other clubs doing there tranfer business early. At cty im sure our recruitment process will go right through the summer.
Again a massive overhaul of players coming into vp for the 2nd pre-season running.

Village Bantam wrote:

tyker2 wrote:

UAE_Bantam wrote:
Only throwing it out there but just read that Hermann Hreidarsson and Freddy Eastwood have been released by Coventry. Not sure how the dates stack up but did Hreidarsson play under Parky at Charlton?

EASTWOOD: it would be the devil's own job to get him out of the south east:west ham boy now playing at Southend on loan.

HE OTHER PLAYER MENTIONED SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN A MEMBER OF VIRTUALLY EVERY TEAM RELEGATED FROM THE PREMIERSHIP AND NOW CHAMPIONSHIP!!!.

Crewes young squad of players (all developed by Crewe) have got to the last play off match at Wembley. The way forward is youth and development but guess who has just dropped their system?

Yeah, that's because Crewe didn't sell their best players to Man U (2), Everton, Liverpool (2) & Leeds etc. before they were even ready for the first team.

You're not suggesting PP plays the dregs that he's left with simply because they're from our own youth system are you?

Same old mindless BS that's repeated on here, day in, day out.

Not this season. In previous seasons they have produced and sold many, many players and will continue to do so. Lower league teams cannot afford to say no if the big boys come knocking no matter how ambitious they are.

Lets sign Michael Owen on a free transfer

Baildon_Bantam wrote:
Lets sign Michael Owen on a free transfer

Wondered how long it would take!

Village Bantam wrote:

tyker2 wrote:

UAE_Bantam wrote:
Only throwing it out there but just read that Hermann Hreidarsson and Freddy Eastwood have been released by Coventry. Not sure how the dates stack up but did Hreidarsson play under Parky at Charlton?

EASTWOOD: it would be the devil's own job to get him out of the south east:west ham boy now playing at Southend on loan.

HE OTHER PLAYER MENTIONED SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN A MEMBER OF VIRTUALLY EVERY TEAM RELEGATED FROM THE PREMIERSHIP AND NOW CHAMPIONSHIP!!!.

Crewes young squad of players (all developed by Crewe) have got to the last play off match at Wembley. The way forward is youth and development but guess who has just dropped their system?

Yeah, that's because Crewe didn't sell their best players to Man U (2), Everton, Liverpool (2) & Leeds etc. before they were even ready for the first team.

You're not suggesting PP plays the dregs that he's left with simply because they're from our own youth system are you?

Same old mindless BS that's repeated on here, day in, day out.

Hear hear! The most recent players to get a run in the first team that graduated from the youth system were O'Brien and Colbeck. Both were not good enough so why are all the others going to be up to standard? People need to stop romanticising about our youth setup because we simply don't attract good enough youth or keep the decent ones. Our youth team won only 5 games in the league all season! Our good youth go to bigger clubs (can't blame them or the club when offered 6 figure sums with add-ons.) and like you say we get left with the rest who are simply garbage. I'm cautiously optimistic about this purge of our mediocre/rubbish players, it's about time the management shook the squad up because this is our 6th year in the bottom division.

Weren't we meant to be building a young team under Jacko this season? And look how that turned out

Jacko "stepped down", PP comes in with experienced pros, Archie Christie leaves and the dev. squad is scrapped at the end of the season.

When will people give up on this dream of young talented team? We simply don't have the resources for this luxury or are not in a position to do so.

You lot who are wishing for a young team are also wishing relegation from the FL

Baildon_Bantam wrote:
Weren't we meant to be building a young team under Jacko this season? And look how that turned out

Jacko "stepped down", PP comes in with experienced pros, Archie Christie leaves and the dev. squad is scrapped at the end of the season.

When will people give up on this dream of young talented team? We simply don't have the resources for this luxury or are not in a position to do so.

You lot who are wishing for a young team are also wishing relegation from the FL

Exactly.

Baildon_Bantam wrote:
Weren't we meant to be building a young team under Jacko this season? And look how that turned out

Jacko "stepped down", PP comes in with experienced pros, Archie Christie leaves and the dev. squad is scrapped at the end of the season.

When will people give up on this dream of young talented team? We simply don't have the resources for this luxury or are not in a position to do so.

You lot who are wishing for a young team are also wishing relegation from the FL

An Academy is not a short term project, it is a set up for the future, to bring good players through to first team level over years, not weeks or months. Look at Huddersfield's Academy, which has been a Premiership Academy for the last few years. It was set up when Barry Rubery owned the club, survived when the club went into administration and for the last few season has flourished. The teams, I believe start at the under 9's level and go right up to under 18's. There are around seven or eight players who are on the fringes of the first team that have come through the system, the most notable are Jack Hunt and Alex Smithies who are first team regulars, and players such as James Spencer who spent last season on loan at Cheltenham and Liam Ridehalgh who spent the first half of the season at Swindon and the second half at Chesterfield. All these lads have gained vast league experience this last season which can only benefit the club in future. We should look at their system and use it as a model for our own system, not for now or next season, but for 2015/16 onwards. The essence of a good academy is to get good players who can be made into much better players by good coaching. Huddersfield's is now managed by Mark Lillis, and Steve Smith has recently gone back there to run the academy in conjunction with the other coaches.

Tinybantam wrote:

Baildon_Bantam wrote:
Weren't we meant to be building a young team under Jacko this season? And look how that turned out

Jacko "stepped down", PP comes in with experienced pros, Archie Christie leaves and the dev. squad is scrapped at the end of the season.

When will people give up on this dream of young talented team? We simply don't have the resources for this luxury or are not in a position to do so.

You lot who are wishing for a young team are also wishing relegation from the FL

An Academy is not a short term project, it is a set up for the future, to bring good players through to first team level over years, not weeks or months. Look at Huddersfield's Academy, which has been a Premiership Academy for the last few years. It was set up when Barry Rubery owned the club, survived when the club went into administration and for the last few season has flourished. The teams, I believe start at the under 9's level and go right up to under 18's. There are around seven or eight players who are on the fringes of the first team that have come through the system, the most notable are Jack Hunt and Alex Smithies who are first team regulars, and players such as James Spencer who spent last season on loan at Cheltenham and Liam Ridehalgh who spent the first half of the season at Swindon and the second half at Chesterfield. All these lads have gained vast league experience this last season which can only benefit the club in future. We should look at their system and use it as a model for our own system, not for now or next season, but for 2015/16 onwards. The essence of a good academy is to get good players who can be made into much better players by good coaching. Huddersfield's is now managed by Mark Lillis, and Steve Smith has recently gone back there to run the academy in conjunction with the other coaches.

We obviously have the raw talent in our 'academy', as evinced by: George Green, Andre Wisdom, Tom Cleverley. They get sold long before they get to the first team though, how the likes of Crewe manage to hold onto their players whilst ours go elsewhere is a conundrum we need to solve. I thought this was going to be addressed with the Development Squad and we would be building for the future. Now we seem to back where we were at this time last year, it's BCFC 'Groundhog Day'!

FFS why don't we debate the demise of Probyns or Brown Muffs. Their dead. Like the development squad.

Get over it.

Brown Muffs? That's gonna upset some folk. I'm a little partial myself given a chance ;)

Dev squad has gone.
Crewe are a selling club, always have been since Dario has been involved as it is he who was the visionary there and insisted that Crewe invest in the youth sides, which would then save/make Crewe money further down the line. The better players, Savage, Thomas,Platt even Ashley Westwood were sold, the next level of ability were held onto and developed further so much so that they played first team football for Crewe and cost nothing in transfer fees and would have been on an incremental wage rise season on season as they proved their worth as pros.

If we cannot follow that model, and it is now apparent we can't or won't then all that remains is to continue to pick up other people's cast offs, like Wells or delve into the non-league and find the Hansons and Hannahs and hope that they gel and become reliable pros who may or may not become saleable assets.

Beeceefcee wrote:
Don't know what your all moaning about. Nothing much is going to happen in the next couple of weeks due to players on holiday and play offs still going on. Probably the first time I feel sorry for Mr Parker as he is struggling to fill the T&A back page:)

As well as players being on holiday, so is Mr Parker. If you look at the last few stories, (inc this one), Ross Heppenstall has put it together. There is no need to feel sorry for him.
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The season is over, but it almost a fortnight since we offered contracts to players. Should we start worrying that none appear to have signed them yet? Go find out what is happening Ross, LOL

Mr Perks wrote:

Tinybantam wrote:

Baildon_Bantam wrote:
Weren't we meant to be building a young team under Jacko this season? And look how that turned out

Jacko "stepped down", PP comes in with experienced pros, Archie Christie leaves and the dev. squad is scrapped at the end of the season.

When will people give up on this dream of young talented team? We simply don't have the resources for this luxury or are not in a position to do so.

You lot who are wishing for a young team are also wishing relegation from the FL

An Academy is not a short term project, it is a set up for the future, to bring good players through to first team level over years, not weeks or months. Look at Huddersfield's Academy, which has been a Premiership Academy for the last few years. It was set up when Barry Rubery owned the club, survived when the club went into administration and for the last few season has flourished. The teams, I believe start at the under 9's level and go right up to under 18's. There are around seven or eight players who are on the fringes of the first team that have come through the system, the most notable are Jack Hunt and Alex Smithies who are first team regulars, and players such as James Spencer who spent last season on loan at Cheltenham and Liam Ridehalgh who spent the first half of the season at Swindon and the second half at Chesterfield. All these lads have gained vast league experience this last season which can only benefit the club in future. We should look at their system and use it as a model for our own system, not for now or next season, but for 2015/16 onwards. The essence of a good academy is to get good players who can be made into much better players by good coaching. Huddersfield's is now managed by Mark Lillis, and Steve Smith has recently gone back there to run the academy in conjunction with the other coaches.

We obviously have the raw talent in our 'academy', as evinced by: George Green, Andre Wisdom, Tom Cleverley. They get sold long before they get to the first team though, how the likes of Crewe manage to hold onto their players whilst ours go elsewhere is a conundrum we need to solve. I thought this was going to be addressed with the Development Squad and we would be building for the future. Now we seem to back where we were at this time last year, it's BCFC 'Groundhog Day'!

And if you were to ask non-Bradford or non-Everton fans who Green is, most wouldn't know. The point is, how the h3ll do you know that Crewe get to keep their best young players? All you know is that when they get to between 18 and 22 they get snapped up. How many of their (and many other clubs') under 16s get snapped up before they have been heard of? You don't, do you..!

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
Brown Muffs? That's gonna upset some folk. I'm a little partial myself given a chance ;)

Dev squad has gone.
Crewe are a selling club, always have been since Dario has been involved as it is he who was the visionary there and insisted that Crewe invest in the youth sides, which would then save/make Crewe money further down the line. The better players, Savage, Thomas,Platt even Ashley Westwood were sold, the next level of ability were held onto and developed further so much so that they played first team football for Crewe and cost nothing in transfer fees and would have been on an incremental wage rise season on season as they proved their worth as pros.

If we cannot follow that model, and it is now apparent we can't or won't then all that remains is to continue to pick up other people's cast offs, like Wells or delve into the non-league and find the Hansons and Hannahs and hope that they gel and become reliable pros who may or may not become saleable assets.

A very good post and on similar lines to what I was thinking. My only issue is, why (after just 6mths) did we scrap our development squad? When the scheme was first introduced, we were told that if just one of the players made it through to the first team, it would have been worth it.
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There were some decent kids in that squad. Yes they were yound and yes they still had/have a lot to learn, but isn't that why they were signed for the development squad and not the first team?
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Just when we thought short-termism had run it's course, we are back to square 1 of picking up rejects from other League 2 sides and a possible recruit from RIAS