Shrewsbury 1 City 0

First published in Sport Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Photograph of the Author by , Bradford City Reporter

City could not make it an Easter double as they became the latest victims of Shrewsbury's unbeaten home record.

Having beaten Southend on Good Friday, Phil Parkinson's side were looking to shock another of the promotion pack.

But there was no repeat of their New Year's Eve victory as they suffered a sixth straight defeat on the road.

Having started fairly brightly, City were undone by Shrewsbury's third corner in the 16th minute.

They could not clear an almighty scramble in the box and right back Jermaine Grandison scored from close range.

Mark Wright was instantly denied a second by a good save from Matt Duke and the winger was just wide with a curler.

City were under the cosh with Grandison a real danger on Shrewsbury's right flank.

But Craig Fagan wasted a great chance to equalise after 27 minutes, volleying wide from right in front of goal after James Hanson had nodded the ball in this path.

Parkinson had named an unchanged starting line-up. But Kyel Reid and Chris Dagnall both came on for the second half.

Fagan had an early half-volley saved by Chris Neal as City were more of a match for their high-flying hosts.

Matt Duke tipped over a free-kick from Matt Richards but had one or two indecisive moments.

Reid threatened a couple of times but City could not find an equaliser.

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4:59pm Mon 9 Apr 12

OLDLAD says...

At least the bottom two lost!!!
At least the bottom two lost!!! OLDLAD
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5:03pm Mon 9 Apr 12

beardedclam says...

Parko out blah blah blah, cue the comments by our "supporters"!
Parko out blah blah blah, cue the comments by our "supporters"! beardedclam
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5:07pm Mon 9 Apr 12

fatbloke says...

According to the radio, I heard it on the Pulse and from Derm that their right back had the freedom of the pitch in the first half and we didnt do anything to stop it.

I haven't used the 1st 2 words that beardedclam used above but I am seriously very close
According to the radio, I heard it on the Pulse and from Derm that their right back had the freedom of the pitch in the first half and we didnt do anything to stop it. I haven't used the 1st 2 words that beardedclam used above but I am seriously very close fatbloke
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5:07pm Mon 9 Apr 12

Rambo says...

beardedclam wrote:
Parko out blah blah blah, cue the comments by our "supporters"!
Im losing faith with PP each game as are many others, like I said after the Plymouth game playing players out of position will start to turn fans if its not working. Do you seriously think Flynn has any use on the left wing and Reid on the bench?
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Yet again we have to chase an away game and draw a blank, and again we concede early. We're just usually drifting through the first half of games due to PPs bizarre unenforced selections leaving us exposed like Flynn on the left today.
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The away form is absolutely pathetic and shows why we're so far down the table - 8 losses in 10 away games this year and 6 losses in a row. Thankfully we're not the only team in freefall at the moment.
[quote][p][bold]beardedclam[/bold] wrote: Parko out blah blah blah, cue the comments by our "supporters"![/p][/quote]Im losing faith with PP each game as are many others, like I said after the Plymouth game playing players out of position will start to turn fans if its not working. Do you seriously think Flynn has any use on the left wing and Reid on the bench? . Yet again we have to chase an away game and draw a blank, and again we concede early. We're just usually drifting through the first half of games due to PPs bizarre unenforced selections leaving us exposed like Flynn on the left today. . The away form is absolutely pathetic and shows why we're so far down the table - 8 losses in 10 away games this year and 6 losses in a row. Thankfully we're not the only team in freefall at the moment. Rambo
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5:10pm Mon 9 Apr 12

Liamk7978 says...

Look at the bright side 7 points clear from bottom two. Hereford, Macclesfield and barnet all lost. And the next game is away at northampton.
Look at the bright side 7 points clear from bottom two. Hereford, Macclesfield and barnet all lost. And the next game is away at northampton. Liamk7978
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5:11pm Mon 9 Apr 12

Cityman23 says...

Okay, it's yet 'another' away defeat/no goals scored but Shrewsbury (away) was unlikely to give us any points. (Though it seemed from the radio commentary that, despite 'gifting' a goal, City possibly deserved a point for their 2nd half play!) The Macclesfield home game remains the 'key' game (as things stand!!)
Okay, it's yet 'another' away defeat/no goals scored but Shrewsbury (away) was unlikely to give us any points. (Though it seemed from the radio commentary that, despite 'gifting' a goal, City possibly deserved a point for their 2nd half play!) The Macclesfield home game remains the 'key' game (as things stand!!) Cityman23
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5:11pm Mon 9 Apr 12

Cityman23 says...

Okay, it's yet 'another' away defeat/no goals scored but Shrewsbury (away) was unlikely to give us any points. (Though it seemed from the radio commentary that, despite 'gifting' a goal, City possibly deserved a point for their 2nd half play!) The Macclesfield home game remains the 'key' game (as things stand!!)
Okay, it's yet 'another' away defeat/no goals scored but Shrewsbury (away) was unlikely to give us any points. (Though it seemed from the radio commentary that, despite 'gifting' a goal, City possibly deserved a point for their 2nd half play!) The Macclesfield home game remains the 'key' game (as things stand!!) Cityman23
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5:11pm Mon 9 Apr 12

Cityman23 says...

Okay, it's yet 'another' away defeat/no goals scored but Shrewsbury (away) was unlikely to give us any points. (Though it seemed from the radio commentary that, despite 'gifting' a goal, City possibly deserved a point for their 2nd half play!) The Macclesfield home game remains the 'key' game (as things stand!!)
Okay, it's yet 'another' away defeat/no goals scored but Shrewsbury (away) was unlikely to give us any points. (Though it seemed from the radio commentary that, despite 'gifting' a goal, City possibly deserved a point for their 2nd half play!) The Macclesfield home game remains the 'key' game (as things stand!!) Cityman23
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5:18pm Mon 9 Apr 12

Thee Voice of Reason says...

City are safe, there is no way within 4 games that either Hereford or Macclesfield will gain 8 points more than we will from their run ins.
The 3 points from 2 games this easter weekend is as good as we could have hoped for and I feel thats secured our league 2 status.
The only thing the Macclesfield game at home will do is confirm Macclesfields relegation as they will need to win and it will play right into our hands.
Lets get this season over now and hope for better next season as this has been nothing but one to forget.
City are safe, there is no way within 4 games that either Hereford or Macclesfield will gain 8 points more than we will from their run ins. The 3 points from 2 games this easter weekend is as good as we could have hoped for and I feel thats secured our league 2 status. The only thing the Macclesfield game at home will do is confirm Macclesfields relegation as they will need to win and it will play right into our hands. Lets get this season over now and hope for better next season as this has been nothing but one to forget. Thee Voice of Reason
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5:23pm Mon 9 Apr 12

Rambo says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
City are safe, there is no way within 4 games that either Hereford or Macclesfield will gain 8 points more than we will from their run ins.
The 3 points from 2 games this easter weekend is as good as we could have hoped for and I feel thats secured our league 2 status.
The only thing the Macclesfield game at home will do is confirm Macclesfields relegation as they will need to win and it will play right into our hands.
Lets get this season over now and hope for better next season as this has been nothing but one to forget.
After Lincoln's spectacular collapse last season, I'll share the sentiment when we're mathematically safe.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: City are safe, there is no way within 4 games that either Hereford or Macclesfield will gain 8 points more than we will from their run ins. The 3 points from 2 games this easter weekend is as good as we could have hoped for and I feel thats secured our league 2 status. The only thing the Macclesfield game at home will do is confirm Macclesfields relegation as they will need to win and it will play right into our hands. Lets get this season over now and hope for better next season as this has been nothing but one to forget.[/p][/quote]After Lincoln's spectacular collapse last season, I'll share the sentiment when we're mathematically safe. Rambo
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5:25pm Mon 9 Apr 12

shaun from richmond says...

BIG WELL DONE....To the bottom 2!!...You didnt let us down!.
BIG WELL DONE to "Deadbeat"!! we have almost got that 4th from bottom spot cemented!!.
WELL DONE EVERYBODY!!!.
BIG WELL DONE....To the bottom 2!!...You didnt let us down!. BIG WELL DONE to "Deadbeat"!! we have almost got that 4th from bottom spot cemented!!. WELL DONE EVERYBODY!!!. shaun from richmond
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5:25pm Mon 9 Apr 12

lonniejockstrap says...

Yet again we have given a top team in this league a very close game. If we can just score some goals -whether that's through a change of tactics or 'luck'- it would make such a massive difference to our position. It's yet another defeat but it shows that the majority of players are good enough to compete with the top teams.
Yet again we have given a top team in this league a very close game. If we can just score some goals -whether that's through a change of tactics or 'luck'- it would make such a massive difference to our position. It's yet another defeat but it shows that the majority of players are good enough to compete with the top teams. lonniejockstrap
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5:26pm Mon 9 Apr 12

Liamk7978 says...

Now to make the bradford vs macclesfield match quid a ticket and get a bumper crowd in to roar us to safety.
Now to make the bradford vs macclesfield match quid a ticket and get a bumper crowd in to roar us to safety. Liamk7978
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5:30pm Mon 9 Apr 12

OLDLAD says...

Liamk7978 wrote:
Look at the bright side 7 points clear from bottom two. Hereford, Macclesfield and barnet all lost. And the next game is away at northampton.
Wrong. Six points clear of the bottom two
[quote][p][bold]Liamk7978[/bold] wrote: Look at the bright side 7 points clear from bottom two. Hereford, Macclesfield and barnet all lost. And the next game is away at northampton.[/p][/quote]Wrong. Six points clear of the bottom two OLDLAD
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5:32pm Mon 9 Apr 12

lonniejockstrap says...

OLDLAD wrote:
Liamk7978 wrote:
Look at the bright side 7 points clear from bottom two. Hereford, Macclesfield and barnet all lost. And the next game is away at northampton.
Wrong. Six points clear of the bottom two
6 points plus goal diff equals 7.
[quote][p][bold]OLDLAD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Liamk7978[/bold] wrote: Look at the bright side 7 points clear from bottom two. Hereford, Macclesfield and barnet all lost. And the next game is away at northampton.[/p][/quote]Wrong. Six points clear of the bottom two[/p][/quote]6 points plus goal diff equals 7. lonniejockstrap
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5:33pm Mon 9 Apr 12

prince35 says...

Same,same,
We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly.
Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward.
We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing.
I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway)
Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home.
But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level.
Promotion push next season , no chance!!!.
Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.
Same,same, We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly. Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward. We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing. I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway) Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home. But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level. Promotion push next season , no chance!!!. Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions. prince35
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5:33pm Mon 9 Apr 12

beardedclam says...

OLDLAD wrote:
Liamk7978 wrote:
Look at the bright side 7 points clear from bottom two. Hereford, Macclesfield and barnet all lost. And the next game is away at northampton.
Wrong. Six points clear of the bottom two
Yawn
[quote][p][bold]OLDLAD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Liamk7978[/bold] wrote: Look at the bright side 7 points clear from bottom two. Hereford, Macclesfield and barnet all lost. And the next game is away at northampton.[/p][/quote]Wrong. Six points clear of the bottom two[/p][/quote]Yawn beardedclam
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5:34pm Mon 9 Apr 12

prince35 says...

Same,same,
We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly.
Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward.
We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing.
I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway)
Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home.
But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level.
Promotion push next season , no chance!!!.
Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.
Same,same, We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly. Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward. We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing. I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway) Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home. But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level. Promotion push next season , no chance!!!. Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions. prince35
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5:34pm Mon 9 Apr 12

prince35 says...

Same,same,
We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly.
Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward.
We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing.
I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway)
Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home.
But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level.
Promotion push next season , no chance!!!.
Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.
Same,same, We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly. Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward. We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing. I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway) Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home. But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level. Promotion push next season , no chance!!!. Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions. prince35
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5:40pm Mon 9 Apr 12

Pablo says...

lonniejockstrap wrote:
Yet again we have given a top team in this league a very close game. If we can just score some goals -whether that's through a change of tactics or 'luck'- it would make such a massive difference to our position. It's yet another defeat but it shows that the majority of players are good enough to compete with the top teams.
The answer is simple, lonnie. On paper the squad is good, but we're far too cautious. We only play when we go behind. Classic example today, if Reid had started we'd have had a better chance of getting something out of the game. We wasted the first 45 mins. If we had a right winger of Reid's ability, then it would really make a difference.
[quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: Yet again we have given a top team in this league a very close game. If we can just score some goals -whether that's through a change of tactics or 'luck'- it would make such a massive difference to our position. It's yet another defeat but it shows that the majority of players are good enough to compete with the top teams.[/p][/quote]The answer is simple, lonnie. On paper the squad is good, but we're far too cautious. We only play when we go behind. Classic example today, if Reid had started we'd have had a better chance of getting something out of the game. We wasted the first 45 mins. If we had a right winger of Reid's ability, then it would really make a difference. Pablo
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5:45pm Mon 9 Apr 12

KnightMcCall says...

OLDLAD wrote:
Liamk7978 wrote:
Look at the bright side 7 points clear from bottom two. Hereford, Macclesfield and barnet all lost. And the next game is away at northampton.
Wrong. Six points clear of the bottom two
43-36 was 7 last time i checked...
[quote][p][bold]OLDLAD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Liamk7978[/bold] wrote: Look at the bright side 7 points clear from bottom two. Hereford, Macclesfield and barnet all lost. And the next game is away at northampton.[/p][/quote]Wrong. Six points clear of the bottom two[/p][/quote]43-36 was 7 last time i checked... KnightMcCall
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5:45pm Mon 9 Apr 12

flashman says...

Oh and don't forget we need a decent striker - maybe we could get that bloke from Halifax, I think he's called Ross something !
Oh and don't forget we need a decent striker - maybe we could get that bloke from Halifax, I think he's called Ross something ! flashman
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5:49pm Mon 9 Apr 12

Pablo says...

prince35 wrote:
Same,same,
We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly.
Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward.
We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing.
I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway)
Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home.
But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level.
Promotion push next season , no chance!!!.
Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.
I agree with your comment re Compton. When PP got MOM award, Compton was a regular that month and our dip in form coincided with Jack's departure.

Compton was more than capable of playing on the right and was unlucky not to be awarded a long term deal.
[quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: Same,same, We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly. Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward. We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing. I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway) Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home. But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level. Promotion push next season , no chance!!!. Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.[/p][/quote]I agree with your comment re Compton. When PP got MOM award, Compton was a regular that month and our dip in form coincided with Jack's departure. Compton was more than capable of playing on the right and was unlucky not to be awarded a long term deal. Pablo
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5:54pm Mon 9 Apr 12

lonniejockstrap says...

prince35 wrote:
Same,same,
We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly.
Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward.
We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing.
I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway)
Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home.
But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level.
Promotion push next season , no chance!!!.
Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.
I liked Compton myself BUT, if he is as good as some on here like to make out, Maybe some some of those posters could tell me why he has only had 2 sub appearnces for St Johnstone. Is he injured or just not as good as some make out? After all the Scots Prem is a 'micky mouse league' when it comes to being a succesful manager in this same league (according to some posters is it not).
[quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: Same,same, We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly. Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward. We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing. I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway) Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home. But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level. Promotion push next season , no chance!!!. Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.[/p][/quote]I liked Compton myself BUT, if he is as good as some on here like to make out, Maybe some some of those posters could tell me why he has only had 2 sub appearnces for St Johnstone. Is he injured or just not as good as some make out? After all the Scots Prem is a 'micky mouse league' when it comes to being a succesful manager in this same league (according to some posters is it not). lonniejockstrap
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5:56pm Mon 9 Apr 12

flashman says...

Not major surgery needed though just a new surgeon who can knit together our bare ones wait until we are safe and get PP stretchered the hell out of there. Taxi/ambulance for PP !
Not major surgery needed though just a new surgeon who can knit together our bare ones wait until we are safe and get PP stretchered the hell out of there. Taxi/ambulance for PP ! flashman
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5:57pm Mon 9 Apr 12

fatbloke says...

As much as I am NOT a fan of Peter Parkie Taylor so I am not defending him does anyone know what Compton wanted in his long term deal?

Maybe he was asking for too much money.
As much as I am NOT a fan of Peter Parkie Taylor so I am not defending him does anyone know what Compton wanted in his long term deal? Maybe he was asking for too much money. fatbloke
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5:58pm Mon 9 Apr 12

lonniejockstrap says...

Pablo wrote:
prince35 wrote:
Same,same,
We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly.
Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward.
We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing.
I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway)
Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home.
But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level.
Promotion push next season , no chance!!!.
Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.
I agree with your comment re Compton. When PP got MOM award, Compton was a regular that month and our dip in form coincided with Jack's departure.

Compton was more than capable of playing on the right and was unlucky not to be awarded a long term deal.
He WAS offered a deal. HE Compton turned it down. If it wasn't long enough for him then that was HIS choice but he was offered a deal. how many more times do some of you folks have to be told?
[quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: Same,same, We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly. Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward. We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing. I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway) Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home. But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level. Promotion push next season , no chance!!!. Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.[/p][/quote]I agree with your comment re Compton. When PP got MOM award, Compton was a regular that month and our dip in form coincided with Jack's departure. Compton was more than capable of playing on the right and was unlucky not to be awarded a long term deal.[/p][/quote]He WAS offered a deal. HE Compton turned it down. If it wasn't long enough for him then that was HIS choice but he was offered a deal. how many more times do some of you folks have to be told? lonniejockstrap
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6:00pm Mon 9 Apr 12

lonniejockstrap says...

lonniejockstrap wrote:
Pablo wrote:
prince35 wrote:
Same,same,
We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly.
Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward.
We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing.
I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway)
Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home.
But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level.
Promotion push next season , no chance!!!.
Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.
I agree with your comment re Compton. When PP got MOM award, Compton was a regular that month and our dip in form coincided with Jack's departure.

Compton was more than capable of playing on the right and was unlucky not to be awarded a long term deal.
He WAS offered a deal. HE Compton turned it down. If it wasn't long enough for him then that was HIS choice but he was offered a deal. how many more times do some of you folks have to be told?
And by the way, his DEAL at St Johnstone is ONLY till the end of the season. Work that one out!
[quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: Same,same, We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly. Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward. We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing. I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway) Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home. But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level. Promotion push next season , no chance!!!. Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.[/p][/quote]I agree with your comment re Compton. When PP got MOM award, Compton was a regular that month and our dip in form coincided with Jack's departure. Compton was more than capable of playing on the right and was unlucky not to be awarded a long term deal.[/p][/quote]He WAS offered a deal. HE Compton turned it down. If it wasn't long enough for him then that was HIS choice but he was offered a deal. how many more times do some of you folks have to be told?[/p][/quote]And by the way, his DEAL at St Johnstone is ONLY till the end of the season. Work that one out! lonniejockstrap
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6:04pm Mon 9 Apr 12

Pablo says...

lonniejockstrap wrote:
prince35 wrote:
Same,same,
We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly.
Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward.
We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing.
I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway)
Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home.
But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level.
Promotion push next season , no chance!!!.
Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.
I liked Compton myself BUT, if he is as good as some on here like to make out, Maybe some some of those posters could tell me why he has only had 2 sub appearnces for St Johnstone. Is he injured or just not as good as some make out? After all the Scots Prem is a 'micky mouse league' when it comes to being a succesful manager in this same league (according to some posters is it not).
There are many cases of players not being able to produce the goods at one club, when they've been successful somewhere else. I recall Bobby Campbell leaving us for a big fee but failing badly at Derby. He returned and starting goals for fun at City again.

Looking at current players, take Dagnall as an example. I can't see what PP sees in him, yet he's proved successful in hs earlier career.

As you know, I also liked Stewart but he's done nothing at Hamilton. Perhaps their confidence is dented after their experience is dented.

Then again, there's PP, a success at Colchester and a failure so far at City!
[quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: Same,same, We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly. Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward. We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing. I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway) Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home. But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level. Promotion push next season , no chance!!!. Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.[/p][/quote]I liked Compton myself BUT, if he is as good as some on here like to make out, Maybe some some of those posters could tell me why he has only had 2 sub appearnces for St Johnstone. Is he injured or just not as good as some make out? After all the Scots Prem is a 'micky mouse league' when it comes to being a succesful manager in this same league (according to some posters is it not).[/p][/quote]There are many cases of players not being able to produce the goods at one club, when they've been successful somewhere else. I recall Bobby Campbell leaving us for a big fee but failing badly at Derby. He returned and starting goals for fun at City again. Looking at current players, take Dagnall as an example. I can't see what PP sees in him, yet he's proved successful in hs earlier career. As you know, I also liked Stewart but he's done nothing at Hamilton. Perhaps their confidence is dented after their experience is dented. Then again, there's PP, a success at Colchester and a failure so far at City! Pablo
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6:07pm Mon 9 Apr 12

Cityman23 says...

"HVEAA!!"

"RADIO PULSEEDS"

@ Shrewsbury v City

(The match may be going on but this commentary 'team' have bigger 'fish to fry'!!)

Tim Th'ton: And it's...no..wait...co
uld it...No..Yes...No...
Shrewsbury have scored!!

STIX: Nah..nah...you just can't be defending like that!! Even a school kid could do better than that! REALLY....really.... POOR!!

Derm Tan'er: Er...yes, by the way did you know Kyle Reid's new son is called...'I.C. Rich'..a dub rapstar of the future?...and er...have you seen the SIZE of Nahki Wells' feet...a little guy with huge feet...what CLODHOPPERS!!

Mike H'rrison: Ab-so-lutely (!!) ..

Graham M'chell: ...Enormous!!

John Hendrie: Yes...well...they are awfy big..so they are...awfy awfy big!!
"HVEAA!!" "RADIO PULSEEDS" @ Shrewsbury v City (The match may be going on but this commentary 'team' have bigger 'fish to fry'!!) Tim Th'ton: And it's...no..wait...co uld it...No..Yes...No... Shrewsbury have scored!! STIX: Nah..nah...you just can't be defending like that!! Even a school kid could do better than that! REALLY....really.... POOR!! Derm Tan'er: Er...yes, by the way did you know Kyle Reid's new son is called...'I.C. Rich'..a dub rapstar of the future?...and er...have you seen the SIZE of Nahki Wells' feet...a little guy with huge feet...what CLODHOPPERS!! Mike H'rrison: Ab-so-lutely (!!) .. Graham M'chell: ...Enormous!! John Hendrie: Yes...well...they are awfy big..so they are...awfy awfy big!! Cityman23
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6:09pm Mon 9 Apr 12

Pablo says...

lonniejockstrap wrote:
Pablo wrote:
prince35 wrote:
Same,same,
We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly.
Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward.
We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing.
I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway)
Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home.
But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level.
Promotion push next season , no chance!!!.
Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.
I agree with your comment re Compton. When PP got MOM award, Compton was a regular that month and our dip in form coincided with Jack's departure.

Compton was more than capable of playing on the right and was unlucky not to be awarded a long term deal.
He WAS offered a deal. HE Compton turned it down. If it wasn't long enough for him then that was HIS choice but he was offered a deal. how many more times do some of you folks have to be told?
I didn't say he wasn't "offered a deal", I said he wasn't offered a long term deal.

He was offered another short term deal.
[quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: Same,same, We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly. Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward. We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing. I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway) Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home. But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level. Promotion push next season , no chance!!!. Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.[/p][/quote]I agree with your comment re Compton. When PP got MOM award, Compton was a regular that month and our dip in form coincided with Jack's departure. Compton was more than capable of playing on the right and was unlucky not to be awarded a long term deal.[/p][/quote]He WAS offered a deal. HE Compton turned it down. If it wasn't long enough for him then that was HIS choice but he was offered a deal. how many more times do some of you folks have to be told?[/p][/quote]I didn't say he wasn't "offered a deal", I said he wasn't offered a long term deal. He was offered another short term deal. Pablo
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6:09pm Mon 9 Apr 12

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

7 points clear with an unachievable GD for the bottom two means they would have to win 3 out of 4 remaining games. It isn't happening and we are safe. **** league position but nowhere near as dire as last season. We've given the top teams hard games but failed woefully against the lesser sides. This needs to be remedied as does our style of play. How this is achieved I don't know but I would suggest a more attacking outlook and more trust in the team to carry this out. If PP cannot promise this and wants to spend next season trying to nick 1-0s and failing then I hope we decide on a change. If he does try get at teams and builds a side to do this then city fans will get behind gallant losers not timid failures.
7 points clear with an unachievable GD for the bottom two means they would have to win 3 out of 4 remaining games. It isn't happening and we are safe. **** league position but nowhere near as dire as last season. We've given the top teams hard games but failed woefully against the lesser sides. This needs to be remedied as does our style of play. How this is achieved I don't know but I would suggest a more attacking outlook and more trust in the team to carry this out. If PP cannot promise this and wants to spend next season trying to nick 1-0s and failing then I hope we decide on a change. If he does try get at teams and builds a side to do this then city fans will get behind gallant losers not timid failures. Prisoner Cell Block A
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6:12pm Mon 9 Apr 12

shaun from richmond says...

lonniejockstrap wrote:
Yet again we have given a top team in this league a very close game. If we can just score some goals -whether that's through a change of tactics or 'luck'- it would make such a massive difference to our position. It's yet another defeat but it shows that the majority of players are good enough to compete with the top teams.
ERM...We are 4th bottom after 42 games!!......"Lucks" got nowt to do with it!!
[quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: Yet again we have given a top team in this league a very close game. If we can just score some goals -whether that's through a change of tactics or 'luck'- it would make such a massive difference to our position. It's yet another defeat but it shows that the majority of players are good enough to compete with the top teams.[/p][/quote]ERM...We are 4th bottom after 42 games!!......"Lucks" got nowt to do with it!! shaun from richmond
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6:15pm Mon 9 Apr 12

Nickloza says...

Pablo wrote:
prince35 wrote:
Same,same,
We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly.
Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward.
We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing.
I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway)
Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home.
But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level.
Promotion push next season , no chance!!!.
Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.
I agree with your comment re Compton. When PP got MOM award, Compton was a regular that month and our dip in form coincided with Jack's departure.

Compton was more than capable of playing on the right and was unlucky not to be awarded a long term deal.
Compton has gone get over it
[quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: Same,same, We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly. Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward. We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing. I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway) Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home. But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level. Promotion push next season , no chance!!!. Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.[/p][/quote]I agree with your comment re Compton. When PP got MOM award, Compton was a regular that month and our dip in form coincided with Jack's departure. Compton was more than capable of playing on the right and was unlucky not to be awarded a long term deal.[/p][/quote]Compton has gone get over it Nickloza
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6:39pm Mon 9 Apr 12

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

Jack Compton will become a legendary figure in bcafc history after only making 6 starts inc JPT.

Lonnie, I tend to agree with you, a slice of luck in some of our games wouldve yielded far more points. I also think if we had set out with an intent to win and not contain we would also have picked up more points but against the lower sides and possibly less against the 'better' teams. It is the defensive mindset of PP after having to endure a season of the same under Taylor which has destroyed many fans faith in the club and team. As I said above, if we were to attack sides, especially at VP then PP could have swung a lot more support his way. It isn't like his methods have produced anything much over and above safety once more.
Jack Compton will become a legendary figure in bcafc history after only making 6 starts inc JPT. Lonnie, I tend to agree with you, a slice of luck in some of our games wouldve yielded far more points. I also think if we had set out with an intent to win and not contain we would also have picked up more points but against the lower sides and possibly less against the 'better' teams. It is the defensive mindset of PP after having to endure a season of the same under Taylor which has destroyed many fans faith in the club and team. As I said above, if we were to attack sides, especially at VP then PP could have swung a lot more support his way. It isn't like his methods have produced anything much over and above safety once more. Prisoner Cell Block A
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7:10pm Mon 9 Apr 12

KnightMcCall says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
City are safe, there is no way within 4 games that either Hereford or Macclesfield will gain 8 points more than we will from their run ins.
The 3 points from 2 games this easter weekend is as good as we could have hoped for and I feel thats secured our league 2 status.
The only thing the Macclesfield game at home will do is confirm Macclesfields relegation as they will need to win and it will play right into our hands.
Lets get this season over now and hope for better next season as this has been nothing but one to forget.
Your predictions about what is and isn't possible does not fill me with confidence!
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: City are safe, there is no way within 4 games that either Hereford or Macclesfield will gain 8 points more than we will from their run ins. The 3 points from 2 games this easter weekend is as good as we could have hoped for and I feel thats secured our league 2 status. The only thing the Macclesfield game at home will do is confirm Macclesfields relegation as they will need to win and it will play right into our hands. Lets get this season over now and hope for better next season as this has been nothing but one to forget.[/p][/quote]Your predictions about what is and isn't possible does not fill me with confidence! KnightMcCall
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7:13pm Mon 9 Apr 12

KnightMcCall says...

prince35 wrote:
Same,same,
We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly.
Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward.
We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing.
I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway)
Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home.
But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level.
Promotion push next season , no chance!!!.
Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.
Does the fact that your beloved Compton can't get in the St Johnstone team suggest that you might be wrong. Falkirk fans not sorry to see him go either
[quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: Same,same, We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly. Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward. We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing. I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway) Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home. But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level. Promotion push next season , no chance!!!. Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.[/p][/quote]Does the fact that your beloved Compton can't get in the St Johnstone team suggest that you might be wrong. Falkirk fans not sorry to see him go either KnightMcCall
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7:15pm Mon 9 Apr 12

KnightMcCall says...

Pablo wrote:
lonniejockstrap wrote:
Yet again we have given a top team in this league a very close game. If we can just score some goals -whether that's through a change of tactics or 'luck'- it would make such a massive difference to our position. It's yet another defeat but it shows that the majority of players are good enough to compete with the top teams.
The answer is simple, lonnie. On paper the squad is good, but we're far too cautious. We only play when we go behind. Classic example today, if Reid had started we'd have had a better chance of getting something out of the game. We wasted the first 45 mins. If we had a right winger of Reid's ability, then it would really make a difference.
You whine when pp changes a winning side and now you castigate when he doesn't. No winning with you Mr Hindsight is there.
[quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: Yet again we have given a top team in this league a very close game. If we can just score some goals -whether that's through a change of tactics or 'luck'- it would make such a massive difference to our position. It's yet another defeat but it shows that the majority of players are good enough to compete with the top teams.[/p][/quote]The answer is simple, lonnie. On paper the squad is good, but we're far too cautious. We only play when we go behind. Classic example today, if Reid had started we'd have had a better chance of getting something out of the game. We wasted the first 45 mins. If we had a right winger of Reid's ability, then it would really make a difference.[/p][/quote]You whine when pp changes a winning side and now you castigate when he doesn't. No winning with you Mr Hindsight is there. KnightMcCall
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7:21pm Mon 9 Apr 12

prince35 says...

Look lets face facts .
Parkinsons record at bradford in terms of results is abysmal.
He hasn't come on and done anything spectacular, when bradford play you can more a or less read the script apart from the odd exceptions (crewe, Shrews, southend, oxford.
The rest have been predictable in how we have set up and gone into games.
Were very lucky that hereford and macclesfield are worse than us.
Seems chairman lawn and the board are sticking by there man.
However by Christmas next year we will be looking for a new manager.
Look lets face facts . Parkinsons record at bradford in terms of results is abysmal. He hasn't come on and done anything spectacular, when bradford play you can more a or less read the script apart from the odd exceptions (crewe, Shrews, southend, oxford. The rest have been predictable in how we have set up and gone into games. Were very lucky that hereford and macclesfield are worse than us. Seems chairman lawn and the board are sticking by there man. However by Christmas next year we will be looking for a new manager. prince35
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7:37pm Mon 9 Apr 12

bahamianbantam says...

Statistics ultimately don't lie.

Worst team for 50 years.

Lucky to survive - I like many others not really sure whether I care anymore - with DB in charge!
Statistics ultimately don't lie. Worst team for 50 years. Lucky to survive - I like many others not really sure whether I care anymore - with DB in charge! bahamianbantam
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7:39pm Mon 9 Apr 12

prince35 says...

@knightmccall.
Ok we will stick with flynn on the left and maybe atkinson, Haworth.
Better than compton
@knightmccall. Ok we will stick with flynn on the left and maybe atkinson, Haworth. Better than compton prince35
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7:41pm Mon 9 Apr 12

Nickloza says...

prince35 wrote:
Look lets face facts .
Parkinsons record at bradford in terms of results is abysmal.
He hasn't come on and done anything spectacular, when bradford play you can more a or less read the script apart from the odd exceptions (crewe, Shrews, southend, oxford.
The rest have been predictable in how we have set up and gone into games.
Were very lucky that hereford and macclesfield are worse than us.
Seems chairman lawn and the board are sticking by there man.
However by Christmas next year we will be looking for a new manager.
You forgot to mention Swindon away Torquay away Gillingham away Barnet away Huddersfield away Torquay at home Sheffield away Rochdale at home have I missed any?
[quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: Look lets face facts . Parkinsons record at bradford in terms of results is abysmal. He hasn't come on and done anything spectacular, when bradford play you can more a or less read the script apart from the odd exceptions (crewe, Shrews, southend, oxford. The rest have been predictable in how we have set up and gone into games. Were very lucky that hereford and macclesfield are worse than us. Seems chairman lawn and the board are sticking by there man. However by Christmas next year we will be looking for a new manager.[/p][/quote]You forgot to mention Swindon away Torquay away Gillingham away Barnet away Huddersfield away Torquay at home Sheffield away Rochdale at home have I missed any? Nickloza
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7:44pm Mon 9 Apr 12

Rambo says...

"You forgot to mention Swindon away Torquay away Gillingham away Barnet away Huddersfield away Torquay at home Sheffield away Rochdale at home have I missed any?"
.
You know you've had a crap season when some of the highlights are 0-0 draws....
"You forgot to mention Swindon away Torquay away Gillingham away Barnet away Huddersfield away Torquay at home Sheffield away Rochdale at home have I missed any?" . You know you've had a crap season when some of the highlights are 0-0 draws.... Rambo
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7:45pm Mon 9 Apr 12

Nickloza says...

bahamianbantam wrote:
Statistics ultimately don't lie.

Worst team for 50 years.

Lucky to survive - I like many others not really sure whether I care anymore - with DB in charge!
Lets get it right many others on here maybe 30?
[quote][p][bold]bahamianbantam[/bold] wrote: Statistics ultimately don't lie. Worst team for 50 years. Lucky to survive - I like many others not really sure whether I care anymore - with DB in charge![/p][/quote]Lets get it right many others on here maybe 30? Nickloza
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7:52pm Mon 9 Apr 12

gentlemanbob says...

Hi Gents

Just on a different note...

Ross Hannah, who doesn't score single goals for Halifax, left the field with five minutes left of normal time on the clock to a standing ovation before being replaced ,

Knocking them in for Fun..

yours

Bob
Hi Gents Just on a different note... Ross Hannah, who doesn't score single goals for Halifax, left the field with five minutes left of normal time on the clock to a standing ovation before being replaced , Knocking them in for Fun.. yours Bob gentlemanbob
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7:58pm Mon 9 Apr 12

Nickloza says...

Rambo wrote:
"You forgot to mention Swindon away Torquay away Gillingham away Barnet away Huddersfield away Torquay at home Sheffield away Rochdale at home have I missed any?"
.
You know you've had a crap season when some of the highlights are 0-0 draws....
Mambo just pointing out good performances stick with it lad you'll grasp it soon if not follow this link http://www.prettyfed
up.com/pfu/philosoph
ical/whyarepeoplesos
tupid.htm
[quote][p][bold]Rambo[/bold] wrote: "You forgot to mention Swindon away Torquay away Gillingham away Barnet away Huddersfield away Torquay at home Sheffield away Rochdale at home have I missed any?" . You know you've had a crap season when some of the highlights are 0-0 draws....[/p][/quote]Mambo just pointing out good performances stick with it lad you'll grasp it soon if not follow this link http://www.prettyfed up.com/pfu/philosoph ical/whyarepeoplesos tupid.htm Nickloza
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8:11pm Mon 9 Apr 12

prince35 says...

gentlemanbob wrote:
Hi Gents

Just on a different note...

Ross Hannah, who doesn't score single goals for Halifax, left the field with five minutes left of normal time on the clock to a standing ovation before being replaced ,

Knocking them in for Fun..

yours

Bob
Micky mouse league gentleman bob.
Ross was sent to Halifax because if Parky had let a lge2 club have him and scored goals.
It would have made Parky look like a right muppett.
Ross Hannah's never had the run of games at lge 2 level to prove himself .
And Parky won't let that happen.
[quote][p][bold]gentlemanbob[/bold] wrote: Hi Gents Just on a different note... Ross Hannah, who doesn't score single goals for Halifax, left the field with five minutes left of normal time on the clock to a standing ovation before being replaced , Knocking them in for Fun.. yours Bob[/p][/quote]Micky mouse league gentleman bob. Ross was sent to Halifax because if Parky had let a lge2 club have him and scored goals. It would have made Parky look like a right muppett. Ross Hannah's never had the run of games at lge 2 level to prove himself . And Parky won't let that happen. prince35
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8:15pm Mon 9 Apr 12

macca1969 says...

lonniejockstrap wrote:
prince35 wrote:
Same,same,
We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly.
Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward.
We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing.
I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway)
Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home.
But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level.
Promotion push next season , no chance!!!.
Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.
I liked Compton myself BUT, if he is as good as some on here like to make out, Maybe some some of those posters could tell me why he has only had 2 sub appearnces for St Johnstone. Is he injured or just not as good as some make out? After all the Scots Prem is a 'micky mouse league' when it comes to being a succesful manager in this same league (according to some posters is it not).
Jack Compton has been struggling with an injury and declared himself fit only a couple of weeks ago, so this may explain his lack of action. The fact he only got a short term deal is to do with his age, same reason we didn't offer longer. He will be available for nothing in the summer i believe. Also st johnson have had pretty good season by they standards and sit so 4th. Why change a side not doing too bad to fit in a half fit JC.
He was a decent player unfortunately he wasn't to sign permanently but if we had the chance again in the summer I'd love us to take a punt on him. The board or PP didn't want to pay a fee to leave more money available for the quality of kozluk,haworth,atkin
son,dagnall,reed,duk
e,fry and the nobody from Leeds.

Roll on next season I've long wrote this one off. At least we have the Olympics and euro's to take our mind off it
[quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: Same,same, We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly. Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward. We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing. I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway) Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home. But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level. Promotion push next season , no chance!!!. Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.[/p][/quote]I liked Compton myself BUT, if he is as good as some on here like to make out, Maybe some some of those posters could tell me why he has only had 2 sub appearnces for St Johnstone. Is he injured or just not as good as some make out? After all the Scots Prem is a 'micky mouse league' when it comes to being a succesful manager in this same league (according to some posters is it not).[/p][/quote]Jack Compton has been struggling with an injury and declared himself fit only a couple of weeks ago, so this may explain his lack of action. The fact he only got a short term deal is to do with his age, same reason we didn't offer longer. He will be available for nothing in the summer i believe. Also st johnson have had pretty good season by they standards and sit so 4th. Why change a side not doing too bad to fit in a half fit JC. He was a decent player unfortunately he wasn't to sign permanently but if we had the chance again in the summer I'd love us to take a punt on him. The board or PP didn't want to pay a fee to leave more money available for the quality of kozluk,haworth,atkin son,dagnall,reed,duk e,fry and the nobody from Leeds. Roll on next season I've long wrote this one off. At least we have the Olympics and euro's to take our mind off it macca1969
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8:26pm Mon 9 Apr 12

pride of yorkshire says...

DOSN'T ANYBOBODY REALISE HOW BAD N CRAP WE ARE?PARKINSON OUT!!!!
DOSN'T ANYBOBODY REALISE HOW BAD N CRAP WE ARE?PARKINSON OUT!!!! pride of yorkshire
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8:33pm Mon 9 Apr 12

pride of yorkshire says...

PARKINSON YOUR IN CLOUD CUCKOO LAND WERE SHOCKING REALISE IT!TAXI 4 PARKINSON!!!!
PARKINSON YOUR IN CLOUD CUCKOO LAND WERE SHOCKING REALISE IT!TAXI 4 PARKINSON!!!! pride of yorkshire
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8:44pm Mon 9 Apr 12

prince35 says...

It's not the majority of the posters on here that don't realise.
It's just a few do gooders on here that think there's going to be a massive upturn in results next season.
So much so were going to be in promotion race!!!.
There delusional.
Yes sacking managers isn't the way forward .
But a manager has to show you some kind of progress, I ain't seen any progress .
It's not the majority of the posters on here that don't realise. It's just a few do gooders on here that think there's going to be a massive upturn in results next season. So much so were going to be in promotion race!!!. There delusional. Yes sacking managers isn't the way forward . But a manager has to show you some kind of progress, I ain't seen any progress . prince35
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9:11pm Mon 9 Apr 12

lonniejockstrap says...

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
Jack Compton will become a legendary figure in bcafc history after only making 6 starts inc JPT.

Lonnie, I tend to agree with you, a slice of luck in some of our games wouldve yielded far more points. I also think if we had set out with an intent to win and not contain we would also have picked up more points but against the lower sides and possibly less against the 'better' teams. It is the defensive mindset of PP after having to endure a season of the same under Taylor which has destroyed many fans faith in the club and team. As I said above, if we were to attack sides, especially at VP then PP could have swung a lot more support his way. It isn't like his methods have produced anything much over and above safety once more.
100% agree.
[quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: Jack Compton will become a legendary figure in bcafc history after only making 6 starts inc JPT. Lonnie, I tend to agree with you, a slice of luck in some of our games wouldve yielded far more points. I also think if we had set out with an intent to win and not contain we would also have picked up more points but against the lower sides and possibly less against the 'better' teams. It is the defensive mindset of PP after having to endure a season of the same under Taylor which has destroyed many fans faith in the club and team. As I said above, if we were to attack sides, especially at VP then PP could have swung a lot more support his way. It isn't like his methods have produced anything much over and above safety once more.[/p][/quote]100% agree. lonniejockstrap
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9:32pm Mon 9 Apr 12

lonniejockstrap says...

prince35 wrote:
It's not the majority of the posters on here that don't realise.
It's just a few do gooders on here that think there's going to be a massive upturn in results next season.
So much so were going to be in promotion race!!!.
There delusional.
Yes sacking managers isn't the way forward .
But a manager has to show you some kind of progress, I ain't seen any progress .
Jeeez, just listen t yer sen! You don't believe sacking managers is the way forward. Well say that you dont want PP sacked then instead of edging yer bets and claiming he'll be sacked by Christmas. Do you support him or don't you?

I'll agree we haven't seen any progress, not this season, last season or the season before. Maybe it's a little something to do with the amount of changes in manager? Unless you think it was simply a case of 3 poor managers? You wanted Compton to see out a longer contract than PP.
[quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: It's not the majority of the posters on here that don't realise. It's just a few do gooders on here that think there's going to be a massive upturn in results next season. So much so were going to be in promotion race!!!. There delusional. Yes sacking managers isn't the way forward . But a manager has to show you some kind of progress, I ain't seen any progress .[/p][/quote]Jeeez, just listen t yer sen! You don't believe sacking managers is the way forward. Well say that you dont want PP sacked then instead of edging yer bets and claiming he'll be sacked by Christmas. Do you support him or don't you? I'll agree we haven't seen any progress, not this season, last season or the season before. Maybe it's a little something to do with the amount of changes in manager? Unless you think it was simply a case of 3 poor managers? You wanted Compton to see out a longer contract than PP. lonniejockstrap
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9:34pm Mon 9 Apr 12

lonniejockstrap says...

macca1969 wrote:
lonniejockstrap wrote:
prince35 wrote:
Same,same,
We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly.
Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward.
We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing.
I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway)
Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home.
But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level.
Promotion push next season , no chance!!!.
Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.
I liked Compton myself BUT, if he is as good as some on here like to make out, Maybe some some of those posters could tell me why he has only had 2 sub appearnces for St Johnstone. Is he injured or just not as good as some make out? After all the Scots Prem is a 'micky mouse league' when it comes to being a succesful manager in this same league (according to some posters is it not).
Jack Compton has been struggling with an injury and declared himself fit only a couple of weeks ago, so this may explain his lack of action. The fact he only got a short term deal is to do with his age, same reason we didn't offer longer. He will be available for nothing in the summer i believe. Also st johnson have had pretty good season by they standards and sit so 4th. Why change a side not doing too bad to fit in a half fit JC.
He was a decent player unfortunately he wasn't to sign permanently but if we had the chance again in the summer I'd love us to take a punt on him. The board or PP didn't want to pay a fee to leave more money available for the quality of kozluk,haworth,atkin

son,dagnall,reed,duk

e,fry and the nobody from Leeds.

Roll on next season I've long wrote this one off. At least we have the Olympics and euro's to take our mind off it
Cheers for the extra info macca.
[quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: Same,same, We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly. Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward. We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing. I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway) Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home. But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level. Promotion push next season , no chance!!!. Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.[/p][/quote]I liked Compton myself BUT, if he is as good as some on here like to make out, Maybe some some of those posters could tell me why he has only had 2 sub appearnces for St Johnstone. Is he injured or just not as good as some make out? After all the Scots Prem is a 'micky mouse league' when it comes to being a succesful manager in this same league (according to some posters is it not).[/p][/quote]Jack Compton has been struggling with an injury and declared himself fit only a couple of weeks ago, so this may explain his lack of action. The fact he only got a short term deal is to do with his age, same reason we didn't offer longer. He will be available for nothing in the summer i believe. Also st johnson have had pretty good season by they standards and sit so 4th. Why change a side not doing too bad to fit in a half fit JC. He was a decent player unfortunately he wasn't to sign permanently but if we had the chance again in the summer I'd love us to take a punt on him. The board or PP didn't want to pay a fee to leave more money available for the quality of kozluk,haworth,atkin son,dagnall,reed,duk e,fry and the nobody from Leeds. Roll on next season I've long wrote this one off. At least we have the Olympics and euro's to take our mind off it[/p][/quote]Cheers for the extra info macca. lonniejockstrap
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9:42pm Mon 9 Apr 12

lonniejockstrap says...

shaun from richmond wrote:
lonniejockstrap wrote:
Yet again we have given a top team in this league a very close game. If we can just score some goals -whether that's through a change of tactics or 'luck'- it would make such a massive difference to our position. It's yet another defeat but it shows that the majority of players are good enough to compete with the top teams.
ERM...We are 4th bottom after 42 games!!......"L
ucks" got nowt to do with it!!
With a bit of luck we might have been 5th from bottom.
[quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: Yet again we have given a top team in this league a very close game. If we can just score some goals -whether that's through a change of tactics or 'luck'- it would make such a massive difference to our position. It's yet another defeat but it shows that the majority of players are good enough to compete with the top teams.[/p][/quote]ERM...We are 4th bottom after 42 games!!......"L ucks" got nowt to do with it!![/p][/quote]With a bit of luck we might have been 5th from bottom. lonniejockstrap
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9:45pm Mon 9 Apr 12

prince35 says...

lonniejockstrap wrote:
prince35 wrote:
It's not the majority of the posters on here that don't realise.
It's just a few do gooders on here that think there's going to be a massive upturn in results next season.
So much so were going to be in promotion race!!!.
There delusional.
Yes sacking managers isn't the way forward .
But a manager has to show you some kind of progress, I ain't seen any progress .
Jeeez, just listen t yer sen! You don't believe sacking managers is the way forward. Well say that you dont want PP sacked then instead of edging yer bets and claiming he'll be sacked by Christmas. Do you support him or don't you?

I'll agree we haven't seen any progress, not this season, last season or the season before. Maybe it's a little something to do with the amount of changes in manager? Unless you think it was simply a case of 3 poor managers? You wanted Compton to see out a longer contract than PP.
Lonnie
I'd see parkinson leave vp a.s.a.p
But like I've said seems the board have decided to stick with him till next season.
I think the board will give Parky while Christmas to see where we are in the lge.
On compton it was a massive mistake not giving him a longer contract offer.
He I've no doubt could have played on the right , left no problem.
When Reid isnt in the team we struggle for width and a spark.
Also look at the calibre of widemen Parky has brought in , atkinson, Haworth, Taylor from Leeds, and the amount of cash spent on these loans abd keeping compton seems the better option.
You dont have to like a player or invite them round for Sunday lunch.
So long as they can win you football matches.
I think Parky took a dislike perhaps to a few players that he said goodbye to so suddenly.
[quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: It's not the majority of the posters on here that don't realise. It's just a few do gooders on here that think there's going to be a massive upturn in results next season. So much so were going to be in promotion race!!!. There delusional. Yes sacking managers isn't the way forward . But a manager has to show you some kind of progress, I ain't seen any progress .[/p][/quote]Jeeez, just listen t yer sen! You don't believe sacking managers is the way forward. Well say that you dont want PP sacked then instead of edging yer bets and claiming he'll be sacked by Christmas. Do you support him or don't you? I'll agree we haven't seen any progress, not this season, last season or the season before. Maybe it's a little something to do with the amount of changes in manager? Unless you think it was simply a case of 3 poor managers? You wanted Compton to see out a longer contract than PP.[/p][/quote]Lonnie I'd see parkinson leave vp a.s.a.p But like I've said seems the board have decided to stick with him till next season. I think the board will give Parky while Christmas to see where we are in the lge. On compton it was a massive mistake not giving him a longer contract offer. He I've no doubt could have played on the right , left no problem. When Reid isnt in the team we struggle for width and a spark. Also look at the calibre of widemen Parky has brought in , atkinson, Haworth, Taylor from Leeds, and the amount of cash spent on these loans abd keeping compton seems the better option. You dont have to like a player or invite them round for Sunday lunch. So long as they can win you football matches. I think Parky took a dislike perhaps to a few players that he said goodbye to so suddenly. prince35
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10:00pm Mon 9 Apr 12

dannbradfc says...

lonniejockstrap wrote:
Pablo wrote:
prince35 wrote:
Same,same,
We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly.
Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward.
We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing.
I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway)
Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home.
But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level.
Promotion push next season , no chance!!!.
Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.
I agree with your comment re Compton. When PP got MOM award, Compton was a regular that month and our dip in form coincided with Jack's departure.

Compton was more than capable of playing on the right and was unlucky not to be awarded a long term deal.
He WAS offered a deal. HE Compton turned it down. If it wasn't long enough for him then that was HIS choice but he was offered a deal. how many more times do some of you folks have to be told?
yeh but he might have been offered a tenner a week. Does that count?

More seriously though he probably felt he had shown enough, especially in light of some of his team-mates performances. Like anyonrein employment he would have wanted some security for him and his family.

PS i don't know the details of your stats regarding Compton at St. Johnstone but perhasp he is been made to fight for a place rather than have one given to him as happened to him at city with Reid. Again more seriously Parky's best run of results and arguably performances coincided with Compton in the side/squad. The games after he left we conceded 3 in each i think. May just be coincidence that,..... but Compton was at the very least a good back up for reid and also showed as Parky himself admitted that he could do a good job on the right. Indeed would he be better than Fagan has offered there? We have had to use Flynn recently out of position to accomodate Reid,s time on the bench. We have also used resources trying to find alternatives e.g. Haworth and Atkinson, who neither reached the level Compton showed. Indeed they are now behind a forward and midfielder for their 'natural' positions. Total waste that we could have used elsewhere. Keeping Compton would have resolved alot of our issues imo.

You can toe the party line and official stance but Compton like others wasn't in 'favour' and it could be argued that their destiny appeared to have already been decided. Indeed it was only due to the great form in the cup games that i feel enabled Compton to be brought back into the fold having been replaced without really been assessed by the incoming manager, which is more than can be said for Mitchell and Stewart( the latter was also a useful alternative for the right wide role issues we have had).

You could manipulate the question another way Lonnie and say that we weren't able to offer Compton a deal good enough to entice him. Thus If we couldn't afford or entice Compton with a deal how could we then offer a deal for Benson? Or expect us to next year to be able to strengthen the squad, to the" reasonable degree" you say we need to, other than using other teams cast-off's, and cheap options, oh and more cheap loans.....
[quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: Same,same, We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly. Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward. We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing. I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway) Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home. But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level. Promotion push next season , no chance!!!. Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.[/p][/quote]I agree with your comment re Compton. When PP got MOM award, Compton was a regular that month and our dip in form coincided with Jack's departure. Compton was more than capable of playing on the right and was unlucky not to be awarded a long term deal.[/p][/quote]He WAS offered a deal. HE Compton turned it down. If it wasn't long enough for him then that was HIS choice but he was offered a deal. how many more times do some of you folks have to be told?[/p][/quote]yeh but he might have been offered a tenner a week. Does that count? More seriously though he probably felt he had shown enough, especially in light of some of his team-mates performances. Like anyonrein employment he would have wanted some security for him and his family. PS i don't know the details of your stats regarding Compton at St. Johnstone but perhasp he is been made to fight for a place rather than have one given to him as happened to him at city with Reid. Again more seriously Parky's best run of results and arguably performances coincided with Compton in the side/squad. The games after he left we conceded 3 in each i think. May just be coincidence that,..... but Compton was at the very least a good back up for reid and also showed as Parky himself admitted that he could do a good job on the right. Indeed would he be better than Fagan has offered there? We have had to use Flynn recently out of position to accomodate Reid,s time on the bench. We have also used resources trying to find alternatives e.g. Haworth and Atkinson, who neither reached the level Compton showed. Indeed they are now behind a forward and midfielder for their 'natural' positions. Total waste that we could have used elsewhere. Keeping Compton would have resolved alot of our issues imo. You can toe the party line and official stance but Compton like others wasn't in 'favour' and it could be argued that their destiny appeared to have already been decided. Indeed it was only due to the great form in the cup games that i feel enabled Compton to be brought back into the fold having been replaced without really been assessed by the incoming manager, which is more than can be said for Mitchell and Stewart( the latter was also a useful alternative for the right wide role issues we have had). You could manipulate the question another way Lonnie and say that we weren't able to offer Compton a deal good enough to entice him. Thus If we couldn't afford or entice Compton with a deal how could we then offer a deal for Benson? Or expect us to next year to be able to strengthen the squad, to the" reasonable degree" you say we need to, other than using other teams cast-off's, and cheap options, oh and more cheap loans..... dannbradfc
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10:06pm Mon 9 Apr 12

KnightMcCall says...

prince35 wrote:
@knightmccall.
Ok we will stick with flynn on the left and maybe atkinson, Haworth.
Better than compton
It worked on Friday didnt it!
[quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: @knightmccall. Ok we will stick with flynn on the left and maybe atkinson, Haworth. Better than compton[/p][/quote]It worked on Friday didnt it! KnightMcCall
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10:07pm Mon 9 Apr 12

dannbradfc says...

shaun from richmond wrote:
lonniejockstrap wrote:
Yet again we have given a top team in this league a very close game. If we can just score some goals -whether that's through a change of tactics or 'luck'- it would make such a massive difference to our position. It's yet another defeat but it shows that the majority of players are good enough to compete with the top teams.
ERM...We are 4th bottom after 42 games!!......"L
ucks" got nowt to do with it!!
Luck was mentioned by someone else as well shaun. They say you create your own. Man utd score lotsa a last minute goals and some put it down to luck, others put it down to them keeping on going to the end of 'fergie' time.

doubt you can be unlucky for 40 odd games, possible but extremely unlikely. In some games we have barely had a shot and if you don't shoot you won't score and thus won't win. Perhaps the problem lies in this area......aw no the sarcasms back....
[quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: Yet again we have given a top team in this league a very close game. If we can just score some goals -whether that's through a change of tactics or 'luck'- it would make such a massive difference to our position. It's yet another defeat but it shows that the majority of players are good enough to compete with the top teams.[/p][/quote]ERM...We are 4th bottom after 42 games!!......"L ucks" got nowt to do with it!![/p][/quote]Luck was mentioned by someone else as well shaun. They say you create your own. Man utd score lotsa a last minute goals and some put it down to luck, others put it down to them keeping on going to the end of 'fergie' time. doubt you can be unlucky for 40 odd games, possible but extremely unlikely. In some games we have barely had a shot and if you don't shoot you won't score and thus won't win. Perhaps the problem lies in this area......aw no the sarcasms back.... dannbradfc
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10:12pm Mon 9 Apr 12

KnightMcCall says...

prince35 wrote:
gentlemanbob wrote:
Hi Gents

Just on a different note...

Ross Hannah, who doesn't score single goals for Halifax, left the field with five minutes left of normal time on the clock to a standing ovation before being replaced ,

Knocking them in for Fun..

yours

Bob
Micky mouse league gentleman bob.
Ross was sent to Halifax because if Parky had let a lge2 club have him and scored goals.
It would have made Parky look like a right muppett.
Ross Hannah's never had the run of games at lge 2 level to prove himself .
And Parky won't let that happen.
That's right; pp gave him an extra season because he doesnt want him...
[quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gentlemanbob[/bold] wrote: Hi Gents Just on a different note... Ross Hannah, who doesn't score single goals for Halifax, left the field with five minutes left of normal time on the clock to a standing ovation before being replaced , Knocking them in for Fun.. yours Bob[/p][/quote]Micky mouse league gentleman bob. Ross was sent to Halifax because if Parky had let a lge2 club have him and scored goals. It would have made Parky look like a right muppett. Ross Hannah's never had the run of games at lge 2 level to prove himself . And Parky won't let that happen.[/p][/quote]That's right; pp gave him an extra season because he doesnt want him... KnightMcCall
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10:16pm Mon 9 Apr 12

Rambo says...

Nickloza wrote:
Rambo wrote:
"You forgot to mention Swindon away Torquay away Gillingham away Barnet away Huddersfield away Torquay at home Sheffield away Rochdale at home have I missed any?"
.
You know you've had a crap season when some of the highlights are 0-0 draws....
Mambo just pointing out good performances stick with it lad you'll grasp it soon if not follow this link http://www.prettyfed

up.com/pfu/philosoph

ical/whyarepeoplesos

tupid.htm
Yawn. So what's your point, we've had good performances in what, 1 every 4 games? We've won 10 out of 37 Give PP a contract for life then!
.
You fail to mention 8 losses in 10 away games this calendar year, which is absolute relegation form.
.
I still back PP as long as he is still here, but changes will be made next season if the nature of the results, tactics and team selections do not change.
[quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rambo[/bold] wrote: "You forgot to mention Swindon away Torquay away Gillingham away Barnet away Huddersfield away Torquay at home Sheffield away Rochdale at home have I missed any?" . You know you've had a crap season when some of the highlights are 0-0 draws....[/p][/quote]Mambo just pointing out good performances stick with it lad you'll grasp it soon if not follow this link http://www.prettyfed up.com/pfu/philosoph ical/whyarepeoplesos tupid.htm[/p][/quote]Yawn. So what's your point, we've had good performances in what, 1 every 4 games? We've won 10 out of 37 Give PP a contract for life then! . You fail to mention 8 losses in 10 away games this calendar year, which is absolute relegation form. . I still back PP as long as he is still here, but changes will be made next season if the nature of the results, tactics and team selections do not change. Rambo
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10:17pm Mon 9 Apr 12

prince35 says...

KnightMcCall wrote:
prince35 wrote:
@knightmccall.
Ok we will stick with flynn on the left and maybe atkinson, Haworth.
Better than compton
It worked on Friday didnt it!
Well working one game showed it didnt work another.
Subbed at half time.
What gets me is Parky went to macclesfield and have a good look at shrewsbury.
But again his tactics were wrong.
[quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: @knightmccall. Ok we will stick with flynn on the left and maybe atkinson, Haworth. Better than compton[/p][/quote]It worked on Friday didnt it![/p][/quote]Well working one game showed it didnt work another. Subbed at half time. What gets me is Parky went to macclesfield and have a good look at shrewsbury. But again his tactics were wrong. prince35
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10:18pm Mon 9 Apr 12

dannbradfc says...

KnightMcCall wrote:
prince35 wrote:
Same,same,
We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly.
Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward.
We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing.
I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway)
Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home.
But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level.
Promotion push next season , no chance!!!.
Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.
Does the fact that your beloved Compton can't get in the St Johnstone team suggest that you might be wrong. Falkirk fans not sorry to see him go either
we don't know their circumstances though do we?

what we do know is that for OUR club he performed at a consistent level and created opportunities for our strikers. Has there been a more consistent crosser for us this season? I bet if you asked Hanson he was enjoying having Compton attempt old fashioned wing play and get to the bye-line. How long has he had the ball aimed at his head from straight on?

Compton wasn't 'all that' but was better than all the wide players since with the exception of Reid. Some will point out defensive lapses to his game but like Daley before him utilise the positives. When the opposition 'two-man' Reid whats the free man doing? reid and Fagan have both at times neglected their defensive duties but neither appear to have afforded the same scrutiny.

Like i say Compton may not have been has 'great' has some make him sound but he showed more than his replacements have thus it can be argued that the squad went backwards in this respect......
[quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: Same,same, We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly. Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward. We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing. I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway) Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home. But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level. Promotion push next season , no chance!!!. Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.[/p][/quote]Does the fact that your beloved Compton can't get in the St Johnstone team suggest that you might be wrong. Falkirk fans not sorry to see him go either[/p][/quote]we don't know their circumstances though do we? what we do know is that for OUR club he performed at a consistent level and created opportunities for our strikers. Has there been a more consistent crosser for us this season? I bet if you asked Hanson he was enjoying having Compton attempt old fashioned wing play and get to the bye-line. How long has he had the ball aimed at his head from straight on? Compton wasn't 'all that' but was better than all the wide players since with the exception of Reid. Some will point out defensive lapses to his game but like Daley before him utilise the positives. When the opposition 'two-man' Reid whats the free man doing? reid and Fagan have both at times neglected their defensive duties but neither appear to have afforded the same scrutiny. Like i say Compton may not have been has 'great' has some make him sound but he showed more than his replacements have thus it can be argued that the squad went backwards in this respect...... dannbradfc
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10:26pm Mon 9 Apr 12

dannbradfc says...

lonniejockstrap wrote:
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
Jack Compton will become a legendary figure in bcafc history after only making 6 starts inc JPT.

Lonnie, I tend to agree with you, a slice of luck in some of our games wouldve yielded far more points. I also think if we had set out with an intent to win and not contain we would also have picked up more points but against the lower sides and possibly less against the 'better' teams. It is the defensive mindset of PP after having to endure a season of the same under Taylor which has destroyed many fans faith in the club and team. As I said above, if we were to attack sides, especially at VP then PP could have swung a lot more support his way. It isn't like his methods have produced anything much over and above safety once more.
100% agree.
don't agree about the luck aspect but agree with the rest.

the sociological concept of 'risk society' comes to mind. There is an element of risk to acheive any reward. Attacking carry's risk but the rewards would be greater.

Hopefully Parky will make the necessay adjustments next season. Ultimately he will need results otherwise IF after christmas we are in the same situation with the same style of football he will probably be in his taxi.

I'm all for giving managers time but we need to see evidence, however small, of progress been made with the squad and on the pitch. If you go for experience, loans from higher leagues, use 40 players etc fans demamnds increase accordingly.....
[quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: Jack Compton will become a legendary figure in bcafc history after only making 6 starts inc JPT. Lonnie, I tend to agree with you, a slice of luck in some of our games wouldve yielded far more points. I also think if we had set out with an intent to win and not contain we would also have picked up more points but against the lower sides and possibly less against the 'better' teams. It is the defensive mindset of PP after having to endure a season of the same under Taylor which has destroyed many fans faith in the club and team. As I said above, if we were to attack sides, especially at VP then PP could have swung a lot more support his way. It isn't like his methods have produced anything much over and above safety once more.[/p][/quote]100% agree.[/p][/quote]don't agree about the luck aspect but agree with the rest. the sociological concept of 'risk society' comes to mind. There is an element of risk to acheive any reward. Attacking carry's risk but the rewards would be greater. Hopefully Parky will make the necessay adjustments next season. Ultimately he will need results otherwise IF after christmas we are in the same situation with the same style of football he will probably be in his taxi. I'm all for giving managers time but we need to see evidence, however small, of progress been made with the squad and on the pitch. If you go for experience, loans from higher leagues, use 40 players etc fans demamnds increase accordingly..... dannbradfc
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10:26pm Mon 9 Apr 12

KnightMcCall says...

prince35 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
prince35 wrote:
@knightmccall.
Ok we will stick with flynn on the left and maybe atkinson, Haworth.
Better than compton
It worked on Friday didnt it!
Well working one game showed it didnt work another.
Subbed at half time.
What gets me is Parky went to macclesfield and have a good look at shrewsbury.
But again his tactics were wrong.
So tactics can only be right if we win? Nobody has beaten shrews at their ground; why is it only pp you point the finger at?
[quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: @knightmccall. Ok we will stick with flynn on the left and maybe atkinson, Haworth. Better than compton[/p][/quote]It worked on Friday didnt it![/p][/quote]Well working one game showed it didnt work another. Subbed at half time. What gets me is Parky went to macclesfield and have a good look at shrewsbury. But again his tactics were wrong.[/p][/quote]So tactics can only be right if we win? Nobody has beaten shrews at their ground; why is it only pp you point the finger at? KnightMcCall
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10:27pm Mon 9 Apr 12

prince35 says...

KnightMcCall wrote:
prince35 wrote:
gentlemanbob wrote:
Hi Gents

Just on a different note...

Ross Hannah, who doesn't score single goals for Halifax, left the field with five minutes left of normal time on the clock to a standing ovation before being replaced ,

Knocking them in for Fun..

yours

Bob
Micky mouse league gentleman bob.
Ross was sent to Halifax because if Parky had let a lge2 club have him and scored goals.
It would have made Parky look like a right muppett.
Ross Hannah's never had the run of games at lge 2 level to prove himself .
And Parky won't let that happen.
That's right; pp gave him an extra season because he doesnt want him...
Hannahs wages will be nothing compared to some at the club.
Sign the lad up and lets see what soet of interest we get from other clubs.
Sell on value for the club if you ask me knightmccall.
[quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gentlemanbob[/bold] wrote: Hi Gents Just on a different note... Ross Hannah, who doesn't score single goals for Halifax, left the field with five minutes left of normal time on the clock to a standing ovation before being replaced , Knocking them in for Fun.. yours Bob[/p][/quote]Micky mouse league gentleman bob. Ross was sent to Halifax because if Parky had let a lge2 club have him and scored goals. It would have made Parky look like a right muppett. Ross Hannah's never had the run of games at lge 2 level to prove himself . And Parky won't let that happen.[/p][/quote]That's right; pp gave him an extra season because he doesnt want him...[/p][/quote]Hannahs wages will be nothing compared to some at the club. Sign the lad up and lets see what soet of interest we get from other clubs. Sell on value for the club if you ask me knightmccall. prince35
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10:31pm Mon 9 Apr 12

340stopper says...

KnightMcCall wrote:
prince35 wrote:
gentlemanbob wrote: Hi Gents Just on a different note... Ross Hannah, who doesn't score single goals for Halifax, left the field with five minutes left of normal time on the clock to a standing ovation before being replaced , Knocking them in for Fun.. yours Bob
Micky mouse league gentleman bob. Ross was sent to Halifax because if Parky had let a lge2 club have him and scored goals. It would have made Parky look like a right muppett. Ross Hannah's never had the run of games at lge 2 level to prove himself . And Parky won't let that happen.
That's right; pp gave him an extra season because he doesnt want him...
Dagnall 1 leaque goal in 562 minutes.
Hannah 2 leaque goals in 519 minutes.
Plus 4 in central leaque plus 1 in cup plus 7 in 6 matches for Halifax = 14 goals in a variety of teams/leaques.
He deserves a chance in my opinion.
PS; i note Benson scored his 10th goal this year today for Swindon with his dodgy knee.
Crawley manager now Rotherham manager !!!!
Hannah 4 for reserves, 2 in Leaque
[quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gentlemanbob[/bold] wrote: Hi Gents Just on a different note... Ross Hannah, who doesn't score single goals for Halifax, left the field with five minutes left of normal time on the clock to a standing ovation before being replaced , Knocking them in for Fun.. yours Bob[/p][/quote]Micky mouse league gentleman bob. Ross was sent to Halifax because if Parky had let a lge2 club have him and scored goals. It would have made Parky look like a right muppett. Ross Hannah's never had the run of games at lge 2 level to prove himself . And Parky won't let that happen.[/p][/quote]That's right; pp gave him an extra season because he doesnt want him...[/p][/quote]Dagnall 1 leaque goal in 562 minutes. Hannah 2 leaque goals in 519 minutes. Plus 4 in central leaque plus 1 in cup plus 7 in 6 matches for Halifax = 14 goals in a variety of teams/leaques. He deserves a chance in my opinion. PS; i note Benson scored his 10th goal this year today for Swindon with his dodgy knee. Crawley manager now Rotherham manager !!!! Hannah 4 for reserves, 2 in Leaque 340stopper
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10:32pm Mon 9 Apr 12

lonniejockstrap says...

dannbradfc wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
prince35 wrote:
Same,same,
We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly.
Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward.
We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing.
I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway)
Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home.
But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level.
Promotion push next season , no chance!!!.
Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.
Does the fact that your beloved Compton can't get in the St Johnstone team suggest that you might be wrong. Falkirk fans not sorry to see him go either
we don't know their circumstances though do we?

what we do know is that for OUR club he performed at a consistent level and created opportunities for our strikers. Has there been a more consistent crosser for us this season? I bet if you asked Hanson he was enjoying having Compton attempt old fashioned wing play and get to the bye-line. How long has he had the ball aimed at his head from straight on?

Compton wasn't 'all that' but was better than all the wide players since with the exception of Reid. Some will point out defensive lapses to his game but like Daley before him utilise the positives. When the opposition 'two-man' Reid whats the free man doing? reid and Fagan have both at times neglected their defensive duties but neither appear to have afforded the same scrutiny.

Like i say Compton may not have been has 'great' has some make him sound but he showed more than his replacements have thus it can be argued that the squad went backwards in this respect......
Don't know what your definition of 'more consistent crosser is' but I can tell you that Reid has 10 assist so far. What did Compton have dann?

Could I ask you why you think Jacko refused to sign Compton permanently? Are you claiming Compton turned down the offer of a contract from PP on the basis of the financial side not being enough? I was under the impression it was because he had offers of 18 months contracts from other Clubs (according to his contract). You are doing a lot of guesswork and making a lot of 'in your opinion' statements on this subject dann. If you feel so confident about what you are saying it would be nice to see some evidence to support your arguments/opinions.
[quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: Same,same, We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly. Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward. We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing. I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway) Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home. But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level. Promotion push next season , no chance!!!. Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.[/p][/quote]Does the fact that your beloved Compton can't get in the St Johnstone team suggest that you might be wrong. Falkirk fans not sorry to see him go either[/p][/quote]we don't know their circumstances though do we? what we do know is that for OUR club he performed at a consistent level and created opportunities for our strikers. Has there been a more consistent crosser for us this season? I bet if you asked Hanson he was enjoying having Compton attempt old fashioned wing play and get to the bye-line. How long has he had the ball aimed at his head from straight on? Compton wasn't 'all that' but was better than all the wide players since with the exception of Reid. Some will point out defensive lapses to his game but like Daley before him utilise the positives. When the opposition 'two-man' Reid whats the free man doing? reid and Fagan have both at times neglected their defensive duties but neither appear to have afforded the same scrutiny. Like i say Compton may not have been has 'great' has some make him sound but he showed more than his replacements have thus it can be argued that the squad went backwards in this respect......[/p][/quote]Don't know what your definition of 'more consistent crosser is' but I can tell you that Reid has 10 assist so far. What did Compton have dann? Could I ask you why you think Jacko refused to sign Compton permanently? Are you claiming Compton turned down the offer of a contract from PP on the basis of the financial side not being enough? I was under the impression it was because he had offers of 18 months contracts from other Clubs (according to his contract). You are doing a lot of guesswork and making a lot of 'in your opinion' statements on this subject dann. If you feel so confident about what you are saying it would be nice to see some evidence to support your arguments/opinions. lonniejockstrap
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10:32pm Mon 9 Apr 12

dannbradfc says...

macca1969 wrote:
lonniejockstrap wrote:
prince35 wrote:
Same,same,
We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly.
Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward.
We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing.
I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway)
Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home.
But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level.
Promotion push next season , no chance!!!.
Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.
I liked Compton myself BUT, if he is as good as some on here like to make out, Maybe some some of those posters could tell me why he has only had 2 sub appearnces for St Johnstone. Is he injured or just not as good as some make out? After all the Scots Prem is a 'micky mouse league' when it comes to being a succesful manager in this same league (according to some posters is it not).
Jack Compton has been struggling with an injury and declared himself fit only a couple of weeks ago, so this may explain his lack of action. The fact he only got a short term deal is to do with his age, same reason we didn't offer longer. He will be available for nothing in the summer i believe. Also st johnson have had pretty good season by they standards and sit so 4th. Why change a side not doing too bad to fit in a half fit JC.
He was a decent player unfortunately he wasn't to sign permanently but if we had the chance again in the summer I'd love us to take a punt on him. The board or PP didn't want to pay a fee to leave more money available for the quality of kozluk,haworth,atkin

son,dagnall,reed,duk

e,fry and the nobody from Leeds.

Roll on next season I've long wrote this one off. At least we have the Olympics and euro's to take our mind off it
Just seen this macca. I find it strange that some are attempting to use Comptons appearances since to judge him as a player. Couldn't they judge him on what he was delivering for us?

As you point out some of those who have come in since have really delivered haven;t they? Bonkers......
[quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: Same,same, We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly. Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward. We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing. I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway) Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home. But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level. Promotion push next season , no chance!!!. Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.[/p][/quote]I liked Compton myself BUT, if he is as good as some on here like to make out, Maybe some some of those posters could tell me why he has only had 2 sub appearnces for St Johnstone. Is he injured or just not as good as some make out? After all the Scots Prem is a 'micky mouse league' when it comes to being a succesful manager in this same league (according to some posters is it not).[/p][/quote]Jack Compton has been struggling with an injury and declared himself fit only a couple of weeks ago, so this may explain his lack of action. The fact he only got a short term deal is to do with his age, same reason we didn't offer longer. He will be available for nothing in the summer i believe. Also st johnson have had pretty good season by they standards and sit so 4th. Why change a side not doing too bad to fit in a half fit JC. He was a decent player unfortunately he wasn't to sign permanently but if we had the chance again in the summer I'd love us to take a punt on him. The board or PP didn't want to pay a fee to leave more money available for the quality of kozluk,haworth,atkin son,dagnall,reed,duk e,fry and the nobody from Leeds. Roll on next season I've long wrote this one off. At least we have the Olympics and euro's to take our mind off it[/p][/quote]Just seen this macca. I find it strange that some are attempting to use Comptons appearances since to judge him as a player. Couldn't they judge him on what he was delivering for us? As you point out some of those who have come in since have really delivered haven;t they? Bonkers...... dannbradfc
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10:33pm Mon 9 Apr 12

prince35 says...

KnightMcCall wrote:
prince35 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
prince35 wrote:
@knightmccall.
Ok we will stick with flynn on the left and maybe atkinson, Haworth.
Better than compton
It worked on Friday didnt it!
Well working one game showed it didnt work another.
Subbed at half time.
What gets me is Parky went to macclesfield and have a good look at shrewsbury.
But again his tactics were wrong.
So tactics can only be right if we win? Nobody has beaten shrews at their ground; why is it only pp you point the finger at?
Just spoke to some shrewsbury fans who were at the game nightmccall.
They say we were a,different proposition 2nd half when Reid came on
If what Parky says is right that Kyle wasn't fit enough, Then why not start with Reid and be positive???.
If Then he tires take the lad off .
[quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: @knightmccall. Ok we will stick with flynn on the left and maybe atkinson, Haworth. Better than compton[/p][/quote]It worked on Friday didnt it![/p][/quote]Well working one game showed it didnt work another. Subbed at half time. What gets me is Parky went to macclesfield and have a good look at shrewsbury. But again his tactics were wrong.[/p][/quote]So tactics can only be right if we win? Nobody has beaten shrews at their ground; why is it only pp you point the finger at?[/p][/quote]Just spoke to some shrewsbury fans who were at the game nightmccall. They say we were a,different proposition 2nd half when Reid came on If what Parky says is right that Kyle wasn't fit enough, Then why not start with Reid and be positive???. If Then he tires take the lad off . prince35
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10:40pm Mon 9 Apr 12

lonniejockstrap says...

lonniejockstrap wrote:
dannbradfc wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
prince35 wrote:
Same,same,
We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly.
Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward.
We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing.
I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway)
Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home.
But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level.
Promotion push next season , no chance!!!.
Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.
Does the fact that your beloved Compton can't get in the St Johnstone team suggest that you might be wrong. Falkirk fans not sorry to see him go either
we don't know their circumstances though do we?

what we do know is that for OUR club he performed at a consistent level and created opportunities for our strikers. Has there been a more consistent crosser for us this season? I bet if you asked Hanson he was enjoying having Compton attempt old fashioned wing play and get to the bye-line. How long has he had the ball aimed at his head from straight on?

Compton wasn't 'all that' but was better than all the wide players since with the exception of Reid. Some will point out defensive lapses to his game but like Daley before him utilise the positives. When the opposition 'two-man' Reid whats the free man doing? reid and Fagan have both at times neglected their defensive duties but neither appear to have afforded the same scrutiny.

Like i say Compton may not have been has 'great' has some make him sound but he showed more than his replacements have thus it can be argued that the squad went backwards in this respect......
Don't know what your definition of 'more consistent crosser is' but I can tell you that Reid has 10 assist so far. What did Compton have dann?

Could I ask you why you think Jacko refused to sign Compton permanently? Are you claiming Compton turned down the offer of a contract from PP on the basis of the financial side not being enough? I was under the impression it was because he had offers of 18 months contracts from other Clubs (according to his contract). You are doing a lot of guesswork and making a lot of 'in your opinion' statements on this subject dann. If you feel so confident about what you are saying it would be nice to see some evidence to support your arguments/opinions.
correction: (according to his agent)
[quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: Same,same, We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly. Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward. We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing. I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway) Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home. But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level. Promotion push next season , no chance!!!. Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.[/p][/quote]Does the fact that your beloved Compton can't get in the St Johnstone team suggest that you might be wrong. Falkirk fans not sorry to see him go either[/p][/quote]we don't know their circumstances though do we? what we do know is that for OUR club he performed at a consistent level and created opportunities for our strikers. Has there been a more consistent crosser for us this season? I bet if you asked Hanson he was enjoying having Compton attempt old fashioned wing play and get to the bye-line. How long has he had the ball aimed at his head from straight on? Compton wasn't 'all that' but was better than all the wide players since with the exception of Reid. Some will point out defensive lapses to his game but like Daley before him utilise the positives. When the opposition 'two-man' Reid whats the free man doing? reid and Fagan have both at times neglected their defensive duties but neither appear to have afforded the same scrutiny. Like i say Compton may not have been has 'great' has some make him sound but he showed more than his replacements have thus it can be argued that the squad went backwards in this respect......[/p][/quote]Don't know what your definition of 'more consistent crosser is' but I can tell you that Reid has 10 assist so far. What did Compton have dann? Could I ask you why you think Jacko refused to sign Compton permanently? Are you claiming Compton turned down the offer of a contract from PP on the basis of the financial side not being enough? I was under the impression it was because he had offers of 18 months contracts from other Clubs (according to his contract). You are doing a lot of guesswork and making a lot of 'in your opinion' statements on this subject dann. If you feel so confident about what you are saying it would be nice to see some evidence to support your arguments/opinions.[/p][/quote]correction: (according to his agent) lonniejockstrap
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10:40pm Mon 9 Apr 12

340stopper says...

prince35 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
prince35 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
prince35 wrote: @knightmccall. Ok we will stick with flynn on the left and maybe atkinson, Haworth. Better than compton
It worked on Friday didnt it!
Well working one game showed it didnt work another. Subbed at half time. What gets me is Parky went to macclesfield and have a good look at shrewsbury. But again his tactics were wrong.
So tactics can only be right if we win? Nobody has beaten shrews at their ground; why is it only pp you point the finger at?
Just spoke to some shrewsbury fans who were at the game nightmccall. They say we were a,different proposition 2nd half when Reid came on If what Parky says is right that Kyle wasn't fit enough, Then why not start with Reid and be positive???. If Then he tires take the lad off .
Good point,we have lost 5 of our last 6 matches away 1-0, so instead of chasing (and failing) games why not start with Wells,Hanson and Reid in a positive attempt to be 1-0 up AND THEN SHUT UP SHOP ?
Shame Duke had a few wobbles today even Branston had to kick of the line today.
[quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: @knightmccall. Ok we will stick with flynn on the left and maybe atkinson, Haworth. Better than compton[/p][/quote]It worked on Friday didnt it![/p][/quote]Well working one game showed it didnt work another. Subbed at half time. What gets me is Parky went to macclesfield and have a good look at shrewsbury. But again his tactics were wrong.[/p][/quote]So tactics can only be right if we win? Nobody has beaten shrews at their ground; why is it only pp you point the finger at?[/p][/quote]Just spoke to some shrewsbury fans who were at the game nightmccall. They say we were a,different proposition 2nd half when Reid came on If what Parky says is right that Kyle wasn't fit enough, Then why not start with Reid and be positive???. If Then he tires take the lad off .[/p][/quote]Good point,we have lost 5 of our last 6 matches away 1-0, so instead of chasing (and failing) games why not start with Wells,Hanson and Reid in a positive attempt to be 1-0 up AND THEN SHUT UP SHOP ? Shame Duke had a few wobbles today even Branston had to kick of the line today. 340stopper
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10:51pm Mon 9 Apr 12

dannbradfc says...

lonniejockstrap wrote:
dannbradfc wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
prince35 wrote:
Same,same,
We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly.
Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward.
We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing.
I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway)
Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home.
But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level.
Promotion push next season , no chance!!!.
Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.
Does the fact that your beloved Compton can't get in the St Johnstone team suggest that you might be wrong. Falkirk fans not sorry to see him go either
we don't know their circumstances though do we?

what we do know is that for OUR club he performed at a consistent level and created opportunities for our strikers. Has there been a more consistent crosser for us this season? I bet if you asked Hanson he was enjoying having Compton attempt old fashioned wing play and get to the bye-line. How long has he had the ball aimed at his head from straight on?

Compton wasn't 'all that' but was better than all the wide players since with the exception of Reid. Some will point out defensive lapses to his game but like Daley before him utilise the positives. When the opposition 'two-man' Reid whats the free man doing? reid and Fagan have both at times neglected their defensive duties but neither appear to have afforded the same scrutiny.

Like i say Compton may not have been has 'great' has some make him sound but he showed more than his replacements have thus it can be argued that the squad went backwards in this respect......
Don't know what your definition of 'more consistent crosser is' but I can tell you that Reid has 10 assist so far. What did Compton have dann?

Could I ask you why you think Jacko refused to sign Compton permanently? Are you claiming Compton turned down the offer of a contract from PP on the basis of the financial side not being enough? I was under the impression it was because he had offers of 18 months contracts from other Clubs (according to his contract). You are doing a lot of guesswork and making a lot of 'in your opinion' statements on this subject dann. If you feel so confident about what you are saying it would be nice to see some evidence to support your arguments/opinions.
And what have you offered?

You make a big point that Compton turned down a contract but you don't the terms of the offer.

You now offer that Reid has made 10 assists but in how many games/minutes etc....stats can be misleading.

If you read my posts i don't understand the comparison to reid anyway, as i've indicated numerous times that i would have wanted BOTH of them and that COMPTONS replacements since have not been as good. Why not show THEIR STATS lonnie as it is THEM who i am comparing Compton too which my posts state. Atkinsons stats will be interesting as i think i've seen him only cross the ball once. And Haworth probably 'tinned' out of more tackles than made crosses. Yet you pointed out Comptons defensive lapses in one game which were your opnion by the way and also went against your usuall stance (which is to be applauded) of defending players. Why did you single him above others both at the time and definately since? Perhaps it was your opnion lonnie but that don't make it a fact.

I saw in Compton a player who when in possesion was prepared to attempt to get by their defenders and often did. He did have a tendency to sometimes over-hit the crosses but he also created some great chances. Don't know what his stats were but stats can be used to prove most things either for or against. Thats why i sue my opinion. doen't mean its right but neither does your stat, even if you were comparing two players that i wasn't. I even suggested playing Compton on the right as i also feel that reid is a good player and parky's better quality of signing. Why not have both? The signings since out wide have all been a step backwards and you could suggest the FACT that Parky himself is still prepared to play forwards and a midfeilder out of position instead suggests that he feels this way too. Even Parky played Compton occasionally.......
[quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: Same,same, We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly. Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward. We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing. I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway) Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home. But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level. Promotion push next season , no chance!!!. Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.[/p][/quote]Does the fact that your beloved Compton can't get in the St Johnstone team suggest that you might be wrong. Falkirk fans not sorry to see him go either[/p][/quote]we don't know their circumstances though do we? what we do know is that for OUR club he performed at a consistent level and created opportunities for our strikers. Has there been a more consistent crosser for us this season? I bet if you asked Hanson he was enjoying having Compton attempt old fashioned wing play and get to the bye-line. How long has he had the ball aimed at his head from straight on? Compton wasn't 'all that' but was better than all the wide players since with the exception of Reid. Some will point out defensive lapses to his game but like Daley before him utilise the positives. When the opposition 'two-man' Reid whats the free man doing? reid and Fagan have both at times neglected their defensive duties but neither appear to have afforded the same scrutiny. Like i say Compton may not have been has 'great' has some make him sound but he showed more than his replacements have thus it can be argued that the squad went backwards in this respect......[/p][/quote]Don't know what your definition of 'more consistent crosser is' but I can tell you that Reid has 10 assist so far. What did Compton have dann? Could I ask you why you think Jacko refused to sign Compton permanently? Are you claiming Compton turned down the offer of a contract from PP on the basis of the financial side not being enough? I was under the impression it was because he had offers of 18 months contracts from other Clubs (according to his contract). You are doing a lot of guesswork and making a lot of 'in your opinion' statements on this subject dann. If you feel so confident about what you are saying it would be nice to see some evidence to support your arguments/opinions.[/p][/quote]And what have you offered? You make a big point that Compton turned down a contract but you don't the terms of the offer. You now offer that Reid has made 10 assists but in how many games/minutes etc....stats can be misleading. If you read my posts i don't understand the comparison to reid anyway, as i've indicated numerous times that i would have wanted BOTH of them and that COMPTONS replacements since have not been as good. Why not show THEIR STATS lonnie as it is THEM who i am comparing Compton too which my posts state. Atkinsons stats will be interesting as i think i've seen him only cross the ball once. And Haworth probably 'tinned' out of more tackles than made crosses. Yet you pointed out Comptons defensive lapses in one game which were your opnion by the way and also went against your usuall stance (which is to be applauded) of defending players. Why did you single him above others both at the time and definately since? Perhaps it was your opnion lonnie but that don't make it a fact. I saw in Compton a player who when in possesion was prepared to attempt to get by their defenders and often did. He did have a tendency to sometimes over-hit the crosses but he also created some great chances. Don't know what his stats were but stats can be used to prove most things either for or against. Thats why i sue my opinion. doen't mean its right but neither does your stat, even if you were comparing two players that i wasn't. I even suggested playing Compton on the right as i also feel that reid is a good player and parky's better quality of signing. Why not have both? The signings since out wide have all been a step backwards and you could suggest the FACT that Parky himself is still prepared to play forwards and a midfeilder out of position instead suggests that he feels this way too. Even Parky played Compton occasionally....... dannbradfc
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11:02pm Mon 9 Apr 12

dannbradfc says...

lonniejockstrap wrote:
lonniejockstrap wrote:
dannbradfc wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
prince35 wrote:
Same,same,
We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly.
Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward.
We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing.
I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway)
Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home.
But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level.
Promotion push next season , no chance!!!.
Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.
Does the fact that your beloved Compton can't get in the St Johnstone team suggest that you might be wrong. Falkirk fans not sorry to see him go either
we don't know their circumstances though do we?

what we do know is that for OUR club he performed at a consistent level and created opportunities for our strikers. Has there been a more consistent crosser for us this season? I bet if you asked Hanson he was enjoying having Compton attempt old fashioned wing play and get to the bye-line. How long has he had the ball aimed at his head from straight on?

Compton wasn't 'all that' but was better than all the wide players since with the exception of Reid. Some will point out defensive lapses to his game but like Daley before him utilise the positives. When the opposition 'two-man' Reid whats the free man doing? reid and Fagan have both at times neglected their defensive duties but neither appear to have afforded the same scrutiny.

Like i say Compton may not have been has 'great' has some make him sound but he showed more than his replacements have thus it can be argued that the squad went backwards in this respect......
Don't know what your definition of 'more consistent crosser is' but I can tell you that Reid has 10 assist so far. What did Compton have dann?

Could I ask you why you think Jacko refused to sign Compton permanently? Are you claiming Compton turned down the offer of a contract from PP on the basis of the financial side not being enough? I was under the impression it was because he had offers of 18 months contracts from other Clubs (according to his contract). You are doing a lot of guesswork and making a lot of 'in your opinion' statements on this subject dann. If you feel so confident about what you are saying it would be nice to see some evidence to support your arguments/opinions.
correction: (according to his agent)
where your evidence for this?

the only evidence you have offered in what is a smoke-screen of a post is that reid has made 10 assists.

All the rest is also conjecture.

The fact that i wan't comparing Compton and Reid makes the stat meaningless anyway.

As for Jackson not offering a longer full-time contract. Again neither of us know why this was. So this is mere manipulation on your part. But what i will say is that from memory Compton came in later than the others and thus Jackson may have wanted to see what he can do before commtting. A lot of Jacksons budget would have already gone before Compton was given a trial thus this may also have factored in.

For someone who attempts to be positive i can't see why you would wish to not prefer Compton over the likes of Atkinson, Haworth as i feel the squad would be stronger with him there. You wouldn't be taking Lawn's stance on this would you Lonnie? ;-).....
[quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: Same,same, We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly. Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward. We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing. I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway) Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home. But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level. Promotion push next season , no chance!!!. Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.[/p][/quote]Does the fact that your beloved Compton can't get in the St Johnstone team suggest that you might be wrong. Falkirk fans not sorry to see him go either[/p][/quote]we don't know their circumstances though do we? what we do know is that for OUR club he performed at a consistent level and created opportunities for our strikers. Has there been a more consistent crosser for us this season? I bet if you asked Hanson he was enjoying having Compton attempt old fashioned wing play and get to the bye-line. How long has he had the ball aimed at his head from straight on? Compton wasn't 'all that' but was better than all the wide players since with the exception of Reid. Some will point out defensive lapses to his game but like Daley before him utilise the positives. When the opposition 'two-man' Reid whats the free man doing? reid and Fagan have both at times neglected their defensive duties but neither appear to have afforded the same scrutiny. Like i say Compton may not have been has 'great' has some make him sound but he showed more than his replacements have thus it can be argued that the squad went backwards in this respect......[/p][/quote]Don't know what your definition of 'more consistent crosser is' but I can tell you that Reid has 10 assist so far. What did Compton have dann? Could I ask you why you think Jacko refused to sign Compton permanently? Are you claiming Compton turned down the offer of a contract from PP on the basis of the financial side not being enough? I was under the impression it was because he had offers of 18 months contracts from other Clubs (according to his contract). You are doing a lot of guesswork and making a lot of 'in your opinion' statements on this subject dann. If you feel so confident about what you are saying it would be nice to see some evidence to support your arguments/opinions.[/p][/quote]correction: (according to his agent)[/p][/quote]where your evidence for this? the only evidence you have offered in what is a smoke-screen of a post is that reid has made 10 assists. All the rest is also conjecture. The fact that i wan't comparing Compton and Reid makes the stat meaningless anyway. As for Jackson not offering a longer full-time contract. Again neither of us know why this was. So this is mere manipulation on your part. But what i will say is that from memory Compton came in later than the others and thus Jackson may have wanted to see what he can do before commtting. A lot of Jacksons budget would have already gone before Compton was given a trial thus this may also have factored in. For someone who attempts to be positive i can't see why you would wish to not prefer Compton over the likes of Atkinson, Haworth as i feel the squad would be stronger with him there. You wouldn't be taking Lawn's stance on this would you Lonnie? ;-)..... dannbradfc
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11:06pm Mon 9 Apr 12

dannbradfc says...

dannbradfc wrote:
lonniejockstrap wrote:
lonniejockstrap wrote:
dannbradfc wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
prince35 wrote:
Same,same,
We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly.
Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward.
We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing.
I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway)
Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home.
But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level.
Promotion push next season , no chance!!!.
Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.
Does the fact that your beloved Compton can't get in the St Johnstone team suggest that you might be wrong. Falkirk fans not sorry to see him go either
we don't know their circumstances though do we?

what we do know is that for OUR club he performed at a consistent level and created opportunities for our strikers. Has there been a more consistent crosser for us this season? I bet if you asked Hanson he was enjoying having Compton attempt old fashioned wing play and get to the bye-line. How long has he had the ball aimed at his head from straight on?

Compton wasn't 'all that' but was better than all the wide players since with the exception of Reid. Some will point out defensive lapses to his game but like Daley before him utilise the positives. When the opposition 'two-man' Reid whats the free man doing? reid and Fagan have both at times neglected their defensive duties but neither appear to have afforded the same scrutiny.

Like i say Compton may not have been has 'great' has some make him sound but he showed more than his replacements have thus it can be argued that the squad went backwards in this respect......
Don't know what your definition of 'more consistent crosser is' but I can tell you that Reid has 10 assist so far. What did Compton have dann?

Could I ask you why you think Jacko refused to sign Compton permanently? Are you claiming Compton turned down the offer of a contract from PP on the basis of the financial side not being enough? I was under the impression it was because he had offers of 18 months contracts from other Clubs (according to his contract). You are doing a lot of guesswork and making a lot of 'in your opinion' statements on this subject dann. If you feel so confident about what you are saying it would be nice to see some evidence to support your arguments/opinions.
correction: (according to his agent)
where your evidence for this?

the only evidence you have offered in what is a smoke-screen of a post is that reid has made 10 assists.

All the rest is also conjecture.

The fact that i wan't comparing Compton and Reid makes the stat meaningless anyway.

As for Jackson not offering a longer full-time contract. Again neither of us know why this was. So this is mere manipulation on your part. But what i will say is that from memory Compton came in later than the others and thus Jackson may have wanted to see what he can do before commtting. A lot of Jacksons budget would have already gone before Compton was given a trial thus this may also have factored in.

For someone who attempts to be positive i can't see why you would wish to not prefer Compton over the likes of Atkinson, Haworth as i feel the squad would be stronger with him there. You wouldn't be taking Lawn's stance on this would you Lonnie? ;-).....
PS been 'under the impression' is not fact and is ultimately as valid as 'in my opinion'....
[quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: Same,same, We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly. Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward. We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing. I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway) Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home. But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level. Promotion push next season , no chance!!!. Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.[/p][/quote]Does the fact that your beloved Compton can't get in the St Johnstone team suggest that you might be wrong. Falkirk fans not sorry to see him go either[/p][/quote]we don't know their circumstances though do we? what we do know is that for OUR club he performed at a consistent level and created opportunities for our strikers. Has there been a more consistent crosser for us this season? I bet if you asked Hanson he was enjoying having Compton attempt old fashioned wing play and get to the bye-line. How long has he had the ball aimed at his head from straight on? Compton wasn't 'all that' but was better than all the wide players since with the exception of Reid. Some will point out defensive lapses to his game but like Daley before him utilise the positives. When the opposition 'two-man' Reid whats the free man doing? reid and Fagan have both at times neglected their defensive duties but neither appear to have afforded the same scrutiny. Like i say Compton may not have been has 'great' has some make him sound but he showed more than his replacements have thus it can be argued that the squad went backwards in this respect......[/p][/quote]Don't know what your definition of 'more consistent crosser is' but I can tell you that Reid has 10 assist so far. What did Compton have dann? Could I ask you why you think Jacko refused to sign Compton permanently? Are you claiming Compton turned down the offer of a contract from PP on the basis of the financial side not being enough? I was under the impression it was because he had offers of 18 months contracts from other Clubs (according to his contract). You are doing a lot of guesswork and making a lot of 'in your opinion' statements on this subject dann. If you feel so confident about what you are saying it would be nice to see some evidence to support your arguments/opinions.[/p][/quote]correction: (according to his agent)[/p][/quote]where your evidence for this? the only evidence you have offered in what is a smoke-screen of a post is that reid has made 10 assists. All the rest is also conjecture. The fact that i wan't comparing Compton and Reid makes the stat meaningless anyway. As for Jackson not offering a longer full-time contract. Again neither of us know why this was. So this is mere manipulation on your part. But what i will say is that from memory Compton came in later than the others and thus Jackson may have wanted to see what he can do before commtting. A lot of Jacksons budget would have already gone before Compton was given a trial thus this may also have factored in. For someone who attempts to be positive i can't see why you would wish to not prefer Compton over the likes of Atkinson, Haworth as i feel the squad would be stronger with him there. You wouldn't be taking Lawn's stance on this would you Lonnie? ;-).....[/p][/quote]PS been 'under the impression' is not fact and is ultimately as valid as 'in my opinion'.... dannbradfc
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11:18pm Mon 9 Apr 12

dannbradfc says...

Compton featured 23 times for city.....

we won 6
drew 8
lost 7

a few of them in the cup against higher opposition including the losses to oldham and l**ds

stats are misleading and usually mean nothing but thats alot better record than we've had since ;-)....
Compton featured 23 times for city..... we won 6 drew 8 lost 7 a few of them in the cup against higher opposition including the losses to oldham and l**ds stats are misleading and usually mean nothing but thats alot better record than we've had since ;-).... dannbradfc
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11:40pm Mon 9 Apr 12

prince35 says...

dannbradfc wrote:
Compton featured 23 times for city.....

we won 6
drew 8
lost 7

a few of them in the cup against higher opposition including the losses to oldham and l**ds

stats are misleading and usually mean nothing but thats alot better record than we've had since ;-)....
Well for whatever reason Parky and the board felt compton wasn't worth the contract he wanted is totally beyond me.
I look at the money wasted on other loan signings Parky has made and I rest my case.
Dagnall was supposed to be the final piece in the jig saw.
That's not gone to plan.
To me were no further a settled squad since the day parkinson walked into vp.
Shame really because 7 months have been wasted .
[quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: Compton featured 23 times for city..... we won 6 drew 8 lost 7 a few of them in the cup against higher opposition including the losses to oldham and l**ds stats are misleading and usually mean nothing but thats alot better record than we've had since ;-)....[/p][/quote]Well for whatever reason Parky and the board felt compton wasn't worth the contract he wanted is totally beyond me. I look at the money wasted on other loan signings Parky has made and I rest my case. Dagnall was supposed to be the final piece in the jig saw. That's not gone to plan. To me were no further a settled squad since the day parkinson walked into vp. Shame really because 7 months have been wasted . prince35
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11:51pm Mon 9 Apr 12

macca1969 says...

Jack Compton started only 9 league games for city with 5 sub appearances. One of his starts was but short early after a red card and he was the man to be sacrificed. In these league matches he managed 4 assists one against rotherham,Plymouth,s
hrewsbury and morcambe. Not too bad for minutes on the pitch and compares well against Reid with ten with a lot more minutes on the pitch. The argument about him not signing longer or jacko not signing him permanent is down to him being only 23 and the fact falkirk were wanting a fee as they did with Stewart.

PP swaps Reid and fagan from left to right all the time so to be honest we could have kept both and played both. Compton has gone and we have to move on but lets stop Dissing the lad as he was a lot better than a lot of PP'S signings especially all those brought in as his so called replacement.
Jack Compton started only 9 league games for city with 5 sub appearances. One of his starts was but short early after a red card and he was the man to be sacrificed. In these league matches he managed 4 assists one against rotherham,Plymouth,s hrewsbury and morcambe. Not too bad for minutes on the pitch and compares well against Reid with ten with a lot more minutes on the pitch. The argument about him not signing longer or jacko not signing him permanent is down to him being only 23 and the fact falkirk were wanting a fee as they did with Stewart. PP swaps Reid and fagan from left to right all the time so to be honest we could have kept both and played both. Compton has gone and we have to move on but lets stop Dissing the lad as he was a lot better than a lot of PP'S signings especially all those brought in as his so called replacement. macca1969
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12:19am Tue 10 Apr 12

dannbradfc says...

macca1969 wrote:
Jack Compton started only 9 league games for city with 5 sub appearances. One of his starts was but short early after a red card and he was the man to be sacrificed. In these league matches he managed 4 assists one against rotherham,Plymouth,s

hrewsbury and morcambe. Not too bad for minutes on the pitch and compares well against Reid with ten with a lot more minutes on the pitch. The argument about him not signing longer or jacko not signing him permanent is down to him being only 23 and the fact falkirk were wanting a fee as they did with Stewart.

PP swaps Reid and fagan from left to right all the time so to be honest we could have kept both and played both. Compton has gone and we have to move on but lets stop Dissing the lad as he was a lot better than a lot of PP'S signings especially all those brought in as his so called replacement.
this is copied from citys site but i looked at it briefly and may have got it wrong:

its says the total was 15 + 8 as sub which are starred.....

28/01/2012 Scottish Premier Motherwell 3
-2 St. Johnstone * 0
21/01/2012 Scottish Premier Hibernian 2-
3 St. Johnstone * 0
31/12/2011 League Two Bradford City 3-1 Shrewsbury Tn. 0
26/12/2011 League Two Bradford City * 3-0 Crewe Alex. 0
10/12/2011 League Two Bradford City 1-1 Plymouth Arg. 0
06/12/2011 (Associat
e Members) Oldham Ath. 2-0 Bradford City 0
03/12/2011 F.A. Cup Bradford City * 3-1 AFC Wimbledon 0
19/11/2011 League Two Bradford City 2-3 Rotherham U. 0
12/11/2011 F.A. Cup Bradford City 1-0 Rochdale 0
08/11/2011 (Associat
e Members) Sheff. Utd. 1-1 Bradford City 0
08/10/2011 League Two Bradford City 1-0 Torquay Utd. 0
04/10/2011 (Associat
e Members) Huddersfiel
d 2-2 Bradford City 0
01/10/2011 League Two Burton Albion 2-2 Bradford City * 0
13/09/2011 League Two Port Vale 3-2 Bradford City * 0
10/09/2011 League Two Bradford City * 2-2 Bristol Rvs. 0
03/09/2011 League Two Morecambe 1-1 Br
adford City * 0
30/08/2011 (Associat
e Members) Bradford City 0-0 Sheff. Wed. 0
27/08/2011 League Two Bradford City 4-2 Barnet 0
20/08/2011 League Two Bradford City 0-1 Dag. & Red. 0
16/08/2011 League Two Accrington S. 1-0 Bradford City 0
13/08/2011 League Two Oxford Utd. 1-1 Bradford City 0 Y
09/08/2011 League Cup Leeds Utd. 3-2 Bradford City 1
06/08/2011 League Two Bradford City 1-2 Aldershot Tn. 0
Total appearances 15 (* + 8 as sub); Goals 1; Yellow cards 1; Red cards 0

ps macca seen the one where it says 9 as well.....
[quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: Jack Compton started only 9 league games for city with 5 sub appearances. One of his starts was but short early after a red card and he was the man to be sacrificed. In these league matches he managed 4 assists one against rotherham,Plymouth,s hrewsbury and morcambe. Not too bad for minutes on the pitch and compares well against Reid with ten with a lot more minutes on the pitch. The argument about him not signing longer or jacko not signing him permanent is down to him being only 23 and the fact falkirk were wanting a fee as they did with Stewart. PP swaps Reid and fagan from left to right all the time so to be honest we could have kept both and played both. Compton has gone and we have to move on but lets stop Dissing the lad as he was a lot better than a lot of PP'S signings especially all those brought in as his so called replacement.[/p][/quote]this is copied from citys site but i looked at it briefly and may have got it wrong: its says the total was 15 + 8 as sub which are starred..... 28/01/2012 Scottish Premier Motherwell 3 -2 St. Johnstone * 0 21/01/2012 Scottish Premier Hibernian 2- 3 St. Johnstone * 0 31/12/2011 League Two Bradford City 3-1 Shrewsbury Tn. 0 26/12/2011 League Two Bradford City * 3-0 Crewe Alex. 0 10/12/2011 League Two Bradford City 1-1 Plymouth Arg. 0 06/12/2011 (Associat e Members) Oldham Ath. 2-0 Bradford City 0 03/12/2011 F.A. Cup Bradford City * 3-1 AFC Wimbledon 0 19/11/2011 League Two Bradford City 2-3 Rotherham U. 0 12/11/2011 F.A. Cup Bradford City 1-0 Rochdale 0 08/11/2011 (Associat e Members) Sheff. Utd. 1-1 Bradford City 0 08/10/2011 League Two Bradford City 1-0 Torquay Utd. 0 04/10/2011 (Associat e Members) Huddersfiel d 2-2 Bradford City 0 01/10/2011 League Two Burton Albion 2-2 Bradford City * 0 13/09/2011 League Two Port Vale 3-2 Bradford City * 0 10/09/2011 League Two Bradford City * 2-2 Bristol Rvs. 0 03/09/2011 League Two Morecambe 1-1 Br adford City * 0 30/08/2011 (Associat e Members) Bradford City 0-0 Sheff. Wed. 0 27/08/2011 League Two Bradford City 4-2 Barnet 0 20/08/2011 League Two Bradford City 0-1 Dag. & Red. 0 16/08/2011 League Two Accrington S. 1-0 Bradford City 0 13/08/2011 League Two Oxford Utd. 1-1 Bradford City 0 Y 09/08/2011 League Cup Leeds Utd. 3-2 Bradford City 1 06/08/2011 League Two Bradford City 1-2 Aldershot Tn. 0 Total appearances 15 (* + 8 as sub); Goals 1; Yellow cards 1; Red cards 0 ps macca seen the one where it says 9 as well..... dannbradfc
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12:20am Tue 10 Apr 12

Bradford1903 says...

It's certainly no disgrace losing at Shrewsbury, but you can't help feel it's another away game that we could've possibly got something from, if we'd been a bit more positive from the outset.

It normally takes us to go 1-0 down to realise that the opposition are nothing to be afraid of, and no better than us.

Perhaps we should let the opposition have a goal start, so that we have a positive intent from the kick off.

All in all though not a bad day; another game gone, our most difficult match on paper out of the way, the gap still 7 points, with Hereford and Macclesfield losing to teams who had nothing to play for.

We might not need another point, but one more win will definitely see us safe.

Hopefully Parkinson will have the "courage" to try and win at Northampton, and not play for a 0-0 away from home, which is one of the main reasons as to why we are sitting in an embarassing 21st place.
It's certainly no disgrace losing at Shrewsbury, but you can't help feel it's another away game that we could've possibly got something from, if we'd been a bit more positive from the outset. It normally takes us to go 1-0 down to realise that the opposition are nothing to be afraid of, and no better than us. Perhaps we should let the opposition have a goal start, so that we have a positive intent from the kick off. All in all though not a bad day; another game gone, our most difficult match on paper out of the way, the gap still 7 points, with Hereford and Macclesfield losing to teams who had nothing to play for. We might not need another point, but one more win will definitely see us safe. Hopefully Parkinson will have the "courage" to try and win at Northampton, and not play for a 0-0 away from home, which is one of the main reasons as to why we are sitting in an embarassing 21st place. Bradford1903
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12:37am Tue 10 Apr 12

macca1969 says...

dannbradfc wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Jack Compton started only 9 league games for city with 5 sub appearances. One of his starts was but short early after a red card and he was the man to be sacrificed. In these league matches he managed 4 assists one against rotherham,Plymouth,s


hrewsbury and morcambe. Not too bad for minutes on the pitch and compares well against Reid with ten with a lot more minutes on the pitch. The argument about him not signing longer or jacko not signing him permanent is down to him being only 23 and the fact falkirk were wanting a fee as they did with Stewart.

PP swaps Reid and fagan from left to right all the time so to be honest we could have kept both and played both. Compton has gone and we have to move on but lets stop Dissing the lad as he was a lot better than a lot of PP'S signings especially all those brought in as his so called replacement.
this is copied from citys site but i looked at it briefly and may have got it wrong:

its says the total was 15 + 8 as sub which are starred.....

28/01/2012 Scottish Premier Motherwell 3

-2 St. Johnstone * 0
21/01/2012 Scottish Premier Hibernian 2-

3 St. Johnstone * 0
31/12/2011 League Two Bradford City 3-1 Shrewsbury Tn. 0
26/12/2011 League Two Bradford City * 3-0 Crewe Alex. 0
10/12/2011 League Two Bradford City 1-1 Plymouth Arg. 0
06/12/2011 (Associat

e Members) Oldham Ath. 2-0 Bradford City 0
03/12/2011 F.A. Cup Bradford City * 3-1 AFC Wimbledon 0
19/11/2011 League Two Bradford City 2-3 Rotherham U. 0
12/11/2011 F.A. Cup Bradford City 1-0 Rochdale 0
08/11/2011 (Associat

e Members) Sheff. Utd. 1-1 Bradford City 0
08/10/2011 League Two Bradford City 1-0 Torquay Utd. 0
04/10/2011 (Associat

e Members) Huddersfiel

d 2-2 Bradford City 0
01/10/2011 League Two Burton Albion 2-2 Bradford City * 0
13/09/2011 League Two Port Vale 3-2 Bradford City * 0
10/09/2011 League Two Bradford City * 2-2 Bristol Rvs. 0
03/09/2011 League Two Morecambe 1-1 Br

adford City * 0
30/08/2011 (Associat

e Members) Bradford City 0-0 Sheff. Wed. 0
27/08/2011 League Two Bradford City 4-2 Barnet 0
20/08/2011 League Two Bradford City 0-1 Dag. & Red. 0
16/08/2011 League Two Accrington S. 1-0 Bradford City 0
13/08/2011 League Two Oxford Utd. 1-1 Bradford City 0 Y
09/08/2011 League Cup Leeds Utd. 3-2 Bradford City 1
06/08/2011 League Two Bradford City 1-2 Aldershot Tn. 0
Total appearances 15 (* + 8 as sub); Goals 1; Yellow cards 1; Red cards 0

ps macca seen the one where it says 9 as well.....
All i know is minutes on the pitch his assists are at least as good as Reid who by the way i do rate and like playing for city. As for the money spent on his replacements they aren't fit to lace his boots.
[quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: Jack Compton started only 9 league games for city with 5 sub appearances. One of his starts was but short early after a red card and he was the man to be sacrificed. In these league matches he managed 4 assists one against rotherham,Plymouth,s hrewsbury and morcambe. Not too bad for minutes on the pitch and compares well against Reid with ten with a lot more minutes on the pitch. The argument about him not signing longer or jacko not signing him permanent is down to him being only 23 and the fact falkirk were wanting a fee as they did with Stewart. PP swaps Reid and fagan from left to right all the time so to be honest we could have kept both and played both. Compton has gone and we have to move on but lets stop Dissing the lad as he was a lot better than a lot of PP'S signings especially all those brought in as his so called replacement.[/p][/quote]this is copied from citys site but i looked at it briefly and may have got it wrong: its says the total was 15 + 8 as sub which are starred..... 28/01/2012 Scottish Premier Motherwell 3 -2 St. Johnstone * 0 21/01/2012 Scottish Premier Hibernian 2- 3 St. Johnstone * 0 31/12/2011 League Two Bradford City 3-1 Shrewsbury Tn. 0 26/12/2011 League Two Bradford City * 3-0 Crewe Alex. 0 10/12/2011 League Two Bradford City 1-1 Plymouth Arg. 0 06/12/2011 (Associat e Members) Oldham Ath. 2-0 Bradford City 0 03/12/2011 F.A. Cup Bradford City * 3-1 AFC Wimbledon 0 19/11/2011 League Two Bradford City 2-3 Rotherham U. 0 12/11/2011 F.A. Cup Bradford City 1-0 Rochdale 0 08/11/2011 (Associat e Members) Sheff. Utd. 1-1 Bradford City 0 08/10/2011 League Two Bradford City 1-0 Torquay Utd. 0 04/10/2011 (Associat e Members) Huddersfiel d 2-2 Bradford City 0 01/10/2011 League Two Burton Albion 2-2 Bradford City * 0 13/09/2011 League Two Port Vale 3-2 Bradford City * 0 10/09/2011 League Two Bradford City * 2-2 Bristol Rvs. 0 03/09/2011 League Two Morecambe 1-1 Br adford City * 0 30/08/2011 (Associat e Members) Bradford City 0-0 Sheff. Wed. 0 27/08/2011 League Two Bradford City 4-2 Barnet 0 20/08/2011 League Two Bradford City 0-1 Dag. & Red. 0 16/08/2011 League Two Accrington S. 1-0 Bradford City 0 13/08/2011 League Two Oxford Utd. 1-1 Bradford City 0 Y 09/08/2011 League Cup Leeds Utd. 3-2 Bradford City 1 06/08/2011 League Two Bradford City 1-2 Aldershot Tn. 0 Total appearances 15 (* + 8 as sub); Goals 1; Yellow cards 1; Red cards 0 ps macca seen the one where it says 9 as well.....[/p][/quote]All i know is minutes on the pitch his assists are at least as good as Reid who by the way i do rate and like playing for city. As for the money spent on his replacements they aren't fit to lace his boots. macca1969
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12:45am Tue 10 Apr 12

lonniejockstrap says...

dannbradfc wrote:
dannbradfc wrote:
lonniejockstrap wrote:
lonniejockstrap wrote:
dannbradfc wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
prince35 wrote:
Same,same,
We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly.
Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward.
We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing.
I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway)
Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home.
But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level.
Promotion push next season , no chance!!!.
Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.
Does the fact that your beloved Compton can't get in the St Johnstone team suggest that you might be wrong. Falkirk fans not sorry to see him go either
we don't know their circumstances though do we?

what we do know is that for OUR club he performed at a consistent level and created opportunities for our strikers. Has there been a more consistent crosser for us this season? I bet if you asked Hanson he was enjoying having Compton attempt old fashioned wing play and get to the bye-line. How long has he had the ball aimed at his head from straight on?

Compton wasn't 'all that' but was better than all the wide players since with the exception of Reid. Some will point out defensive lapses to his game but like Daley before him utilise the positives. When the opposition 'two-man' Reid whats the free man doing? reid and Fagan have both at times neglected their defensive duties but neither appear to have afforded the same scrutiny.

Like i say Compton may not have been has 'great' has some make him sound but he showed more than his replacements have thus it can be argued that the squad went backwards in this respect......
Don't know what your definition of 'more consistent crosser is' but I can tell you that Reid has 10 assist so far. What did Compton have dann?

Could I ask you why you think Jacko refused to sign Compton permanently? Are you claiming Compton turned down the offer of a contract from PP on the basis of the financial side not being enough? I was under the impression it was because he had offers of 18 months contracts from other Clubs (according to his contract). You are doing a lot of guesswork and making a lot of 'in your opinion' statements on this subject dann. If you feel so confident about what you are saying it would be nice to see some evidence to support your arguments/opinions.
correction: (according to his agent)
where your evidence for this?

the only evidence you have offered in what is a smoke-screen of a post is that reid has made 10 assists.

All the rest is also conjecture.

The fact that i wan't comparing Compton and Reid makes the stat meaningless anyway.

As for Jackson not offering a longer full-time contract. Again neither of us know why this was. So this is mere manipulation on your part. But what i will say is that from memory Compton came in later than the others and thus Jackson may have wanted to see what he can do before commtting. A lot of Jacksons budget would have already gone before Compton was given a trial thus this may also have factored in.

For someone who attempts to be positive i can't see why you would wish to not prefer Compton over the likes of Atkinson, Haworth as i feel the squad would be stronger with him there. You wouldn't be taking Lawn's stance on this would you Lonnie? ;-).....
PS been 'under the impression' is not fact and is ultimately as valid as 'in my opinion'....
You asked about a 'more consistent crosser' I gave you Reid!

Wheter or not we know the reason for Jackson not signing Compton permanantly the fact is he didn't! He snet him back to Falkirk and then brought him back on 5 month deal to see if he could prove he was good enough for a 'permanant' contract . PP wanted to extend Compton's loan because he felt he hadn't done enough to be given an 18 month deal. Compton knocked it back for a short term contract at St Johnstone. Get over it dann.

'under the impression' is much more valid than 'in my opinion' because: 'under the impression' was based on reading a quote from PP saying: "We spoke to Jack about staying here. He wanted a long-term commitment and financially we didn't think it added up - nothing more to it." (T@A 10th Jan 2012) I'm also trying to find the quote I read where PP says Compton's agent had said there had been offers -two if I remeber correctly- of 18 months contract. PP wouldn't offer the same so Compton chose to go. I am searching for the quote. Maybe you could support your opinion of Compton that it was turned down due to money reasons? Or were you not suggesting that?

Where have I ever said or even implied I would 'not prefer Compton over the likes of Atkinson, Haworth'?????
[quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: Same,same, We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly. Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward. We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing. I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway) Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home. But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level. Promotion push next season , no chance!!!. Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.[/p][/quote]Does the fact that your beloved Compton can't get in the St Johnstone team suggest that you might be wrong. Falkirk fans not sorry to see him go either[/p][/quote]we don't know their circumstances though do we? what we do know is that for OUR club he performed at a consistent level and created opportunities for our strikers. Has there been a more consistent crosser for us this season? I bet if you asked Hanson he was enjoying having Compton attempt old fashioned wing play and get to the bye-line. How long has he had the ball aimed at his head from straight on? Compton wasn't 'all that' but was better than all the wide players since with the exception of Reid. Some will point out defensive lapses to his game but like Daley before him utilise the positives. When the opposition 'two-man' Reid whats the free man doing? reid and Fagan have both at times neglected their defensive duties but neither appear to have afforded the same scrutiny. Like i say Compton may not have been has 'great' has some make him sound but he showed more than his replacements have thus it can be argued that the squad went backwards in this respect......[/p][/quote]Don't know what your definition of 'more consistent crosser is' but I can tell you that Reid has 10 assist so far. What did Compton have dann? Could I ask you why you think Jacko refused to sign Compton permanently? Are you claiming Compton turned down the offer of a contract from PP on the basis of the financial side not being enough? I was under the impression it was because he had offers of 18 months contracts from other Clubs (according to his contract). You are doing a lot of guesswork and making a lot of 'in your opinion' statements on this subject dann. If you feel so confident about what you are saying it would be nice to see some evidence to support your arguments/opinions.[/p][/quote]correction: (according to his agent)[/p][/quote]where your evidence for this? the only evidence you have offered in what is a smoke-screen of a post is that reid has made 10 assists. All the rest is also conjecture. The fact that i wan't comparing Compton and Reid makes the stat meaningless anyway. As for Jackson not offering a longer full-time contract. Again neither of us know why this was. So this is mere manipulation on your part. But what i will say is that from memory Compton came in later than the others and thus Jackson may have wanted to see what he can do before commtting. A lot of Jacksons budget would have already gone before Compton was given a trial thus this may also have factored in. For someone who attempts to be positive i can't see why you would wish to not prefer Compton over the likes of Atkinson, Haworth as i feel the squad would be stronger with him there. You wouldn't be taking Lawn's stance on this would you Lonnie? ;-).....[/p][/quote]PS been 'under the impression' is not fact and is ultimately as valid as 'in my opinion'....[/p][/quote]You asked about a 'more consistent crosser' I gave you Reid! Wheter or not we know the reason for Jackson not signing Compton permanantly the fact is he didn't! He snet him back to Falkirk and then brought him back on 5 month deal to see if he could prove he was good enough for a 'permanant' contract . PP wanted to extend Compton's loan because he felt he hadn't done enough to be given an 18 month deal. Compton knocked it back for a short term contract at St Johnstone. Get over it dann. 'under the impression' is much more valid than 'in my opinion' because: 'under the impression' was based on reading a quote from PP saying: "We spoke to Jack about staying here. He wanted a long-term commitment and financially we didn't think it added up - nothing more to it." (T@A 10th Jan 2012) I'm also trying to find the quote I read where PP says Compton's agent had said there had been offers -two if I remeber correctly- of 18 months contract. PP wouldn't offer the same so Compton chose to go. I am searching for the quote. Maybe you could support your opinion of Compton that it was turned down due to money reasons? Or were you not suggesting that? Where have I ever said or even implied I would 'not prefer Compton over the likes of Atkinson, Haworth'????? lonniejockstrap
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9:38am Tue 10 Apr 12

Thee Voice of Reason says...

KnightMcCall wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote: City are safe, there is no way within 4 games that either Hereford or Macclesfield will gain 8 points more than we will from their run ins. The 3 points from 2 games this easter weekend is as good as we could have hoped for and I feel thats secured our league 2 status. The only thing the Macclesfield game at home will do is confirm Macclesfields relegation as they will need to win and it will play right into our hands. Lets get this season over now and hope for better next season as this has been nothing but one to forget.
Your predictions about what is and isn't possible does not fill me with confidence!
Stop being such a negatron.
[quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: City are safe, there is no way within 4 games that either Hereford or Macclesfield will gain 8 points more than we will from their run ins. The 3 points from 2 games this easter weekend is as good as we could have hoped for and I feel thats secured our league 2 status. The only thing the Macclesfield game at home will do is confirm Macclesfields relegation as they will need to win and it will play right into our hands. Lets get this season over now and hope for better next season as this has been nothing but one to forget.[/p][/quote]Your predictions about what is and isn't possible does not fill me with confidence![/p][/quote]Stop being such a negatron. Thee Voice of Reason
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9:46am Tue 10 Apr 12

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Nickloza wrote:
prince35 wrote: Look lets face facts . Parkinsons record at bradford in terms of results is abysmal. He hasn't come on and done anything spectacular, when bradford play you can more a or less read the script apart from the odd exceptions (crewe, Shrews, southend, oxford. The rest have been predictable in how we have set up and gone into games. Were very lucky that hereford and macclesfield are worse than us. Seems chairman lawn and the board are sticking by there man. However by Christmas next year we will be looking for a new manager.
You forgot to mention Swindon away Torquay away Gillingham away Barnet away Huddersfield away Torquay at home Sheffield away Rochdale at home have I missed any?
Sad old Nickloza. We are 21st in the bottom league of English proffessional football. The odd win here and there means nothing in the bigger picture.

The draw at Swindon won't get us automatic promotion will it?
[quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: Look lets face facts . Parkinsons record at bradford in terms of results is abysmal. He hasn't come on and done anything spectacular, when bradford play you can more a or less read the script apart from the odd exceptions (crewe, Shrews, southend, oxford. The rest have been predictable in how we have set up and gone into games. Were very lucky that hereford and macclesfield are worse than us. Seems chairman lawn and the board are sticking by there man. However by Christmas next year we will be looking for a new manager.[/p][/quote]You forgot to mention Swindon away Torquay away Gillingham away Barnet away Huddersfield away Torquay at home Sheffield away Rochdale at home have I missed any?[/p][/quote]Sad old Nickloza. We are 21st in the bottom league of English proffessional football. The odd win here and there means nothing in the bigger picture. The draw at Swindon won't get us automatic promotion will it? Thee Voice of Reason
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9:55am Tue 10 Apr 12

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
prince35 wrote: Look lets face facts . Parkinsons record at bradford in terms of results is abysmal. He hasn't come on and done anything spectacular, when bradford play you can more a or less read the script apart from the odd exceptions (crewe, Shrews, southend, oxford. The rest have been predictable in how we have set up and gone into games. Were very lucky that hereford and macclesfield are worse than us. Seems chairman lawn and the board are sticking by there man. However by Christmas next year we will be looking for a new manager.
You forgot to mention Swindon away Torquay away Gillingham away Barnet away Huddersfield away Torquay at home Sheffield away Rochdale at home have I missed any?
Sad old Nickloza. We are 21st in the bottom league of English proffessional football. The odd win here and there means nothing in the bigger picture. The draw at Swindon won't get us automatic promotion will it?
Also if your going to mention the odd good game which seems in your eyes to make this season a success lets look at some of the dross.

Daggers Away. Aldershot Away.
Hereford Home & Away. Macclesfield Away. Plymouth Home & Away. AFC Wimbledon Home & Away. Bristol Rovers Home & Away.

Need I go on?
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: Look lets face facts . Parkinsons record at bradford in terms of results is abysmal. He hasn't come on and done anything spectacular, when bradford play you can more a or less read the script apart from the odd exceptions (crewe, Shrews, southend, oxford. The rest have been predictable in how we have set up and gone into games. Were very lucky that hereford and macclesfield are worse than us. Seems chairman lawn and the board are sticking by there man. However by Christmas next year we will be looking for a new manager.[/p][/quote]You forgot to mention Swindon away Torquay away Gillingham away Barnet away Huddersfield away Torquay at home Sheffield away Rochdale at home have I missed any?[/p][/quote]Sad old Nickloza. We are 21st in the bottom league of English proffessional football. The odd win here and there means nothing in the bigger picture. The draw at Swindon won't get us automatic promotion will it?[/p][/quote]Also if your going to mention the odd good game which seems in your eyes to make this season a success lets look at some of the dross. Daggers Away. Aldershot Away. Hereford Home & Away. Macclesfield Away. Plymouth Home & Away. AFC Wimbledon Home & Away. Bristol Rovers Home & Away. Need I go on? Thee Voice of Reason
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1:47pm Tue 10 Apr 12

340stopper says...

dannbradfc wrote:
macca1969 wrote: Jack Compton started only 9 league games for city with 5 sub appearances. One of his starts was but short early after a red card and he was the man to be sacrificed. In these league matches he managed 4 assists one against rotherham,Plymouth,s hrewsbury and morcambe. Not too bad for minutes on the pitch and compares well against Reid with ten with a lot more minutes on the pitch. The argument about him not signing longer or jacko not signing him permanent is down to him being only 23 and the fact falkirk were wanting a fee as they did with Stewart. PP swaps Reid and fagan from left to right all the time so to be honest we could have kept both and played both. Compton has gone and we have to move on but lets stop Dissing the lad as he was a lot better than a lot of PP'S signings especially all those brought in as his so called replacement.
this is copied from citys site but i looked at it briefly and may have got it wrong: its says the total was 15 + 8 as sub which are starred..... 28/01/2012 Scottish Premier Motherwell 3 -2 St. Johnstone * 0 21/01/2012 Scottish Premier Hibernian 2- 3 St. Johnstone * 0 31/12/2011 League Two Bradford City 3-1 Shrewsbury Tn. 0 26/12/2011 League Two Bradford City * 3-0 Crewe Alex. 0 10/12/2011 League Two Bradford City 1-1 Plymouth Arg. 0 06/12/2011 (Associat e Members) Oldham Ath. 2-0 Bradford City 0 03/12/2011 F.A. Cup Bradford City * 3-1 AFC Wimbledon 0 19/11/2011 League Two Bradford City 2-3 Rotherham U. 0 12/11/2011 F.A. Cup Bradford City 1-0 Rochdale 0 08/11/2011 (Associat e Members) Sheff. Utd. 1-1 Bradford City 0 08/10/2011 League Two Bradford City 1-0 Torquay Utd. 0 04/10/2011 (Associat e Members) Huddersfiel d 2-2 Bradford City 0 01/10/2011 League Two Burton Albion 2-2 Bradford City * 0 13/09/2011 League Two Port Vale 3-2 Bradford City * 0 10/09/2011 League Two Bradford City * 2-2 Bristol Rvs. 0 03/09/2011 League Two Morecambe 1-1 Br adford City * 0 30/08/2011 (Associat e Members) Bradford City 0-0 Sheff. Wed. 0 27/08/2011 League Two Bradford City 4-2 Barnet 0 20/08/2011 League Two Bradford City 0-1 Dag. & Red. 0 16/08/2011 League Two Accrington S. 1-0 Bradford City 0 13/08/2011 League Two Oxford Utd. 1-1 Bradford City 0 Y 09/08/2011 League Cup Leeds Utd. 3-2 Bradford City 1 06/08/2011 League Two Bradford City 1-2 Aldershot Tn. 0 Total appearances 15 (* + 8 as sub); Goals 1; Yellow cards 1; Red cards 0 ps macca seen the one where it says 9 as well.....
Comptons gone but Mitchell has not - look at his stats assists/minutes on pitch - you may be suprised/impressed !
However i am sure he will be long gone end of season.
[quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: Jack Compton started only 9 league games for city with 5 sub appearances. One of his starts was but short early after a red card and he was the man to be sacrificed. In these league matches he managed 4 assists one against rotherham,Plymouth,s hrewsbury and morcambe. Not too bad for minutes on the pitch and compares well against Reid with ten with a lot more minutes on the pitch. The argument about him not signing longer or jacko not signing him permanent is down to him being only 23 and the fact falkirk were wanting a fee as they did with Stewart. PP swaps Reid and fagan from left to right all the time so to be honest we could have kept both and played both. Compton has gone and we have to move on but lets stop Dissing the lad as he was a lot better than a lot of PP'S signings especially all those brought in as his so called replacement.[/p][/quote]this is copied from citys site but i looked at it briefly and may have got it wrong: its says the total was 15 + 8 as sub which are starred..... 28/01/2012 Scottish Premier Motherwell 3 -2 St. Johnstone * 0 21/01/2012 Scottish Premier Hibernian 2- 3 St. Johnstone * 0 31/12/2011 League Two Bradford City 3-1 Shrewsbury Tn. 0 26/12/2011 League Two Bradford City * 3-0 Crewe Alex. 0 10/12/2011 League Two Bradford City 1-1 Plymouth Arg. 0 06/12/2011 (Associat e Members) Oldham Ath. 2-0 Bradford City 0 03/12/2011 F.A. Cup Bradford City * 3-1 AFC Wimbledon 0 19/11/2011 League Two Bradford City 2-3 Rotherham U. 0 12/11/2011 F.A. Cup Bradford City 1-0 Rochdale 0 08/11/2011 (Associat e Members) Sheff. Utd. 1-1 Bradford City 0 08/10/2011 League Two Bradford City 1-0 Torquay Utd. 0 04/10/2011 (Associat e Members) Huddersfiel d 2-2 Bradford City 0 01/10/2011 League Two Burton Albion 2-2 Bradford City * 0 13/09/2011 League Two Port Vale 3-2 Bradford City * 0 10/09/2011 League Two Bradford City * 2-2 Bristol Rvs. 0 03/09/2011 League Two Morecambe 1-1 Br adford City * 0 30/08/2011 (Associat e Members) Bradford City 0-0 Sheff. Wed. 0 27/08/2011 League Two Bradford City 4-2 Barnet 0 20/08/2011 League Two Bradford City 0-1 Dag. & Red. 0 16/08/2011 League Two Accrington S. 1-0 Bradford City 0 13/08/2011 League Two Oxford Utd. 1-1 Bradford City 0 Y 09/08/2011 League Cup Leeds Utd. 3-2 Bradford City 1 06/08/2011 League Two Bradford City 1-2 Aldershot Tn. 0 Total appearances 15 (* + 8 as sub); Goals 1; Yellow cards 1; Red cards 0 ps macca seen the one where it says 9 as well.....[/p][/quote]Comptons gone but Mitchell has not - look at his stats assists/minutes on pitch - you may be suprised/impressed ! However i am sure he will be long gone end of season. 340stopper
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2:18pm Tue 10 Apr 12

KnightMcCall says...

lonniejockstrap wrote:
dannbradfc wrote:
dannbradfc wrote:
lonniejockstrap wrote:
lonniejockstrap wrote:
dannbradfc wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
prince35 wrote: Same,same, We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly. Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward. We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing. I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway) Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home. But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level. Promotion push next season , no chance!!!. Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.
Does the fact that your beloved Compton can't get in the St Johnstone team suggest that you might be wrong. Falkirk fans not sorry to see him go either
we don't know their circumstances though do we? what we do know is that for OUR club he performed at a consistent level and created opportunities for our strikers. Has there been a more consistent crosser for us this season? I bet if you asked Hanson he was enjoying having Compton attempt old fashioned wing play and get to the bye-line. How long has he had the ball aimed at his head from straight on? Compton wasn't 'all that' but was better than all the wide players since with the exception of Reid. Some will point out defensive lapses to his game but like Daley before him utilise the positives. When the opposition 'two-man' Reid whats the free man doing? reid and Fagan have both at times neglected their defensive duties but neither appear to have afforded the same scrutiny. Like i say Compton may not have been has 'great' has some make him sound but he showed more than his replacements have thus it can be argued that the squad went backwards in this respect......
Don't know what your definition of 'more consistent crosser is' but I can tell you that Reid has 10 assist so far. What did Compton have dann? Could I ask you why you think Jacko refused to sign Compton permanently? Are you claiming Compton turned down the offer of a contract from PP on the basis of the financial side not being enough? I was under the impression it was because he had offers of 18 months contracts from other Clubs (according to his contract). You are doing a lot of guesswork and making a lot of 'in your opinion' statements on this subject dann. If you feel so confident about what you are saying it would be nice to see some evidence to support your arguments/opinions.
correction: (according to his agent)
where your evidence for this? the only evidence you have offered in what is a smoke-screen of a post is that reid has made 10 assists. All the rest is also conjecture. The fact that i wan't comparing Compton and Reid makes the stat meaningless anyway. As for Jackson not offering a longer full-time contract. Again neither of us know why this was. So this is mere manipulation on your part. But what i will say is that from memory Compton came in later than the others and thus Jackson may have wanted to see what he can do before commtting. A lot of Jacksons budget would have already gone before Compton was given a trial thus this may also have factored in. For someone who attempts to be positive i can't see why you would wish to not prefer Compton over the likes of Atkinson, Haworth as i feel the squad would be stronger with him there. You wouldn't be taking Lawn's stance on this would you Lonnie? ;-).....
PS been 'under the impression' is not fact and is ultimately as valid as 'in my opinion'....
You asked about a 'more consistent crosser' I gave you Reid! Wheter or not we know the reason for Jackson not signing Compton permanantly the fact is he didn't! He snet him back to Falkirk and then brought him back on 5 month deal to see if he could prove he was good enough for a 'permanant' contract . PP wanted to extend Compton's loan because he felt he hadn't done enough to be given an 18 month deal. Compton knocked it back for a short term contract at St Johnstone. Get over it dann. 'under the impression' is much more valid than 'in my opinion' because: 'under the impression' was based on reading a quote from PP saying: "We spoke to Jack about staying here. He wanted a long-term commitment and financially we didn't think it added up - nothing more to it." (T@A 10th Jan 2012) I'm also trying to find the quote I read where PP says Compton's agent had said there had been offers -two if I remeber correctly- of 18 months contract. PP wouldn't offer the same so Compton chose to go. I am searching for the quote. Maybe you could support your opinion of Compton that it was turned down due to money reasons? Or were you not suggesting that? Where have I ever said or even implied I would 'not prefer Compton over the likes of Atkinson, Haworth'?????
The comments regarding Compton having an 18 month offer elsewhere were said on Radio Leeds which might be why you can't find it. PP clearly believed that Compton was playing games with the contract talks as he believed that a deal to the end of the season was all that Compton could expect...PP was right wasn't he.

For all the other comments; I am not having a go at COmpton; I would have been happy if he stayed; I am merely defending PP's decision to let him go. All of the 20-20 hindsight brigade pointing out that we have stuggled to replace him is totally irrelevant as PP doesn't have a time machine and DID offer Compton a chance to stay; a chance that Compton turned down.

Whether Compton was worth an 18 month contract is down to opinion but PP cleary wasn't willing to spend any of next season's budget on him when he would be playing second fiddle to Reid and is so one-footed that I cannot believe anyone would suggest that we sign him as a right-winger.
[quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: Same,same, We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly. Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward. We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing. I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway) Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home. But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level. Promotion push next season , no chance!!!. Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.[/p][/quote]Does the fact that your beloved Compton can't get in the St Johnstone team suggest that you might be wrong. Falkirk fans not sorry to see him go either[/p][/quote]we don't know their circumstances though do we? what we do know is that for OUR club he performed at a consistent level and created opportunities for our strikers. Has there been a more consistent crosser for us this season? I bet if you asked Hanson he was enjoying having Compton attempt old fashioned wing play and get to the bye-line. How long has he had the ball aimed at his head from straight on? Compton wasn't 'all that' but was better than all the wide players since with the exception of Reid. Some will point out defensive lapses to his game but like Daley before him utilise the positives. When the opposition 'two-man' Reid whats the free man doing? reid and Fagan have both at times neglected their defensive duties but neither appear to have afforded the same scrutiny. Like i say Compton may not have been has 'great' has some make him sound but he showed more than his replacements have thus it can be argued that the squad went backwards in this respect......[/p][/quote]Don't know what your definition of 'more consistent crosser is' but I can tell you that Reid has 10 assist so far. What did Compton have dann? Could I ask you why you think Jacko refused to sign Compton permanently? Are you claiming Compton turned down the offer of a contract from PP on the basis of the financial side not being enough? I was under the impression it was because he had offers of 18 months contracts from other Clubs (according to his contract). You are doing a lot of guesswork and making a lot of 'in your opinion' statements on this subject dann. If you feel so confident about what you are saying it would be nice to see some evidence to support your arguments/opinions.[/p][/quote]correction: (according to his agent)[/p][/quote]where your evidence for this? the only evidence you have offered in what is a smoke-screen of a post is that reid has made 10 assists. All the rest is also conjecture. The fact that i wan't comparing Compton and Reid makes the stat meaningless anyway. As for Jackson not offering a longer full-time contract. Again neither of us know why this was. So this is mere manipulation on your part. But what i will say is that from memory Compton came in later than the others and thus Jackson may have wanted to see what he can do before commtting. A lot of Jacksons budget would have already gone before Compton was given a trial thus this may also have factored in. For someone who attempts to be positive i can't see why you would wish to not prefer Compton over the likes of Atkinson, Haworth as i feel the squad would be stronger with him there. You wouldn't be taking Lawn's stance on this would you Lonnie? ;-).....[/p][/quote]PS been 'under the impression' is not fact and is ultimately as valid as 'in my opinion'....[/p][/quote]You asked about a 'more consistent crosser' I gave you Reid! Wheter or not we know the reason for Jackson not signing Compton permanantly the fact is he didn't! He snet him back to Falkirk and then brought him back on 5 month deal to see if he could prove he was good enough for a 'permanant' contract . PP wanted to extend Compton's loan because he felt he hadn't done enough to be given an 18 month deal. Compton knocked it back for a short term contract at St Johnstone. Get over it dann. 'under the impression' is much more valid than 'in my opinion' because: 'under the impression' was based on reading a quote from PP saying: "We spoke to Jack about staying here. He wanted a long-term commitment and financially we didn't think it added up - nothing more to it." (T@A 10th Jan 2012) I'm also trying to find the quote I read where PP says Compton's agent had said there had been offers -two if I remeber correctly- of 18 months contract. PP wouldn't offer the same so Compton chose to go. I am searching for the quote. Maybe you could support your opinion of Compton that it was turned down due to money reasons? Or were you not suggesting that? Where have I ever said or even implied I would 'not prefer Compton over the likes of Atkinson, Haworth'?????[/p][/quote]The comments regarding Compton having an 18 month offer elsewhere were said on Radio Leeds which might be why you can't find it. PP clearly believed that Compton was playing games with the contract talks as he believed that a deal to the end of the season was all that Compton could expect...PP was right wasn't he. For all the other comments; I am not having a go at COmpton; I would have been happy if he stayed; I am merely defending PP's decision to let him go. All of the 20-20 hindsight brigade pointing out that we have stuggled to replace him is totally irrelevant as PP doesn't have a time machine and DID offer Compton a chance to stay; a chance that Compton turned down. Whether Compton was worth an 18 month contract is down to opinion but PP cleary wasn't willing to spend any of next season's budget on him when he would be playing second fiddle to Reid and is so one-footed that I cannot believe anyone would suggest that we sign him as a right-winger. KnightMcCall
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2:29pm Tue 10 Apr 12

northyorksbantam says...

340stopper wrote:
dannbradfc wrote:
macca1969 wrote: Jack Compton started only 9 league games for city with 5 sub appearances. One of his starts was but short early after a red card and he was the man to be sacrificed. In these league matches he managed 4 assists one against rotherham,Plymouth,s hrewsbury and morcambe. Not too bad for minutes on the pitch and compares well against Reid with ten with a lot more minutes on the pitch. The argument about him not signing longer or jacko not signing him permanent is down to him being only 23 and the fact falkirk were wanting a fee as they did with Stewart. PP swaps Reid and fagan from left to right all the time so to be honest we could have kept both and played both. Compton has gone and we have to move on but lets stop Dissing the lad as he was a lot better than a lot of PP'S signings especially all those brought in as his so called replacement.
this is copied from citys site but i looked at it briefly and may have got it wrong: its says the total was 15 + 8 as sub which are starred..... 28/01/2012 Scottish Premier Motherwell 3 -2 St. Johnstone * 0 21/01/2012 Scottish Premier Hibernian 2- 3 St. Johnstone * 0 31/12/2011 League Two Bradford City 3-1 Shrewsbury Tn. 0 26/12/2011 League Two Bradford City * 3-0 Crewe Alex. 0 10/12/2011 League Two Bradford City 1-1 Plymouth Arg. 0 06/12/2011 (Associat e Members) Oldham Ath. 2-0 Bradford City 0 03/12/2011 F.A. Cup Bradford City * 3-1 AFC Wimbledon 0 19/11/2011 League Two Bradford City 2-3 Rotherham U. 0 12/11/2011 F.A. Cup Bradford City 1-0 Rochdale 0 08/11/2011 (Associat e Members) Sheff. Utd. 1-1 Bradford City 0 08/10/2011 League Two Bradford City 1-0 Torquay Utd. 0 04/10/2011 (Associat e Members) Huddersfiel d 2-2 Bradford City 0 01/10/2011 League Two Burton Albion 2-2 Bradford City * 0 13/09/2011 League Two Port Vale 3-2 Bradford City * 0 10/09/2011 League Two Bradford City * 2-2 Bristol Rvs. 0 03/09/2011 League Two Morecambe 1-1 Br adford City * 0 30/08/2011 (Associat e Members) Bradford City 0-0 Sheff. Wed. 0 27/08/2011 League Two Bradford City 4-2 Barnet 0 20/08/2011 League Two Bradford City 0-1 Dag. & Red. 0 16/08/2011 League Two Accrington S. 1-0 Bradford City 0 13/08/2011 League Two Oxford Utd. 1-1 Bradford City 0 Y 09/08/2011 League Cup Leeds Utd. 3-2 Bradford City 1 06/08/2011 League Two Bradford City 1-2 Aldershot Tn. 0 Total appearances 15 (* + 8 as sub); Goals 1; Yellow cards 1; Red cards 0 ps macca seen the one where it says 9 as well.....
Comptons gone but Mitchell has not - look at his stats assists/minutes on pitch - you may be suprised/impressed ! However i am sure he will be long gone end of season.
Mitchell put in the best display of anyone at VP this season against Barnet. Outstanding performance. Considering he played on the right that day and the issues we have had there subsequently, including full back as well as midfield, pretty baffling he hasn't had a look in.

Yes I believe he is out of contract and agree will be long gone too. I think he's had a raw deal and hope he makes it elsewhere.
[quote][p][bold]340stopper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: Jack Compton started only 9 league games for city with 5 sub appearances. One of his starts was but short early after a red card and he was the man to be sacrificed. In these league matches he managed 4 assists one against rotherham,Plymouth,s hrewsbury and morcambe. Not too bad for minutes on the pitch and compares well against Reid with ten with a lot more minutes on the pitch. The argument about him not signing longer or jacko not signing him permanent is down to him being only 23 and the fact falkirk were wanting a fee as they did with Stewart. PP swaps Reid and fagan from left to right all the time so to be honest we could have kept both and played both. Compton has gone and we have to move on but lets stop Dissing the lad as he was a lot better than a lot of PP'S signings especially all those brought in as his so called replacement.[/p][/quote]this is copied from citys site but i looked at it briefly and may have got it wrong: its says the total was 15 + 8 as sub which are starred..... 28/01/2012 Scottish Premier Motherwell 3 -2 St. Johnstone * 0 21/01/2012 Scottish Premier Hibernian 2- 3 St. Johnstone * 0 31/12/2011 League Two Bradford City 3-1 Shrewsbury Tn. 0 26/12/2011 League Two Bradford City * 3-0 Crewe Alex. 0 10/12/2011 League Two Bradford City 1-1 Plymouth Arg. 0 06/12/2011 (Associat e Members) Oldham Ath. 2-0 Bradford City 0 03/12/2011 F.A. Cup Bradford City * 3-1 AFC Wimbledon 0 19/11/2011 League Two Bradford City 2-3 Rotherham U. 0 12/11/2011 F.A. Cup Bradford City 1-0 Rochdale 0 08/11/2011 (Associat e Members) Sheff. Utd. 1-1 Bradford City 0 08/10/2011 League Two Bradford City 1-0 Torquay Utd. 0 04/10/2011 (Associat e Members) Huddersfiel d 2-2 Bradford City 0 01/10/2011 League Two Burton Albion 2-2 Bradford City * 0 13/09/2011 League Two Port Vale 3-2 Bradford City * 0 10/09/2011 League Two Bradford City * 2-2 Bristol Rvs. 0 03/09/2011 League Two Morecambe 1-1 Br adford City * 0 30/08/2011 (Associat e Members) Bradford City 0-0 Sheff. Wed. 0 27/08/2011 League Two Bradford City 4-2 Barnet 0 20/08/2011 League Two Bradford City 0-1 Dag. & Red. 0 16/08/2011 League Two Accrington S. 1-0 Bradford City 0 13/08/2011 League Two Oxford Utd. 1-1 Bradford City 0 Y 09/08/2011 League Cup Leeds Utd. 3-2 Bradford City 1 06/08/2011 League Two Bradford City 1-2 Aldershot Tn. 0 Total appearances 15 (* + 8 as sub); Goals 1; Yellow cards 1; Red cards 0 ps macca seen the one where it says 9 as well.....[/p][/quote]Comptons gone but Mitchell has not - look at his stats assists/minutes on pitch - you may be suprised/impressed ! However i am sure he will be long gone end of season.[/p][/quote]Mitchell put in the best display of anyone at VP this season against Barnet. Outstanding performance. Considering he played on the right that day and the issues we have had there subsequently, including full back as well as midfield, pretty baffling he hasn't had a look in. Yes I believe he is out of contract and agree will be long gone too. I think he's had a raw deal and hope he makes it elsewhere. northyorksbantam
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6:01pm Tue 10 Apr 12

eebygum says...

Like I have said before PP is damned if he does damned if he doesn't at Plymouth got slagged off on here for playing gungho at other games he get slagged for changing the team about.sticks with the same team and he still gets slagged off. Give the guy a break. At least it keeps Crawley in the play offs. revenge will be ours next season when they get knocked out of the play offs. Prince35 when you slag a league off or a player read it over because you called their league a micky mouse league. Yet comment that Parky let him go there because he might go to another league 2 team and score a goal against us. Make your mind up if it's micky mouse league as you say and yet he could come back to league 2 to score goals.
Like I have said before PP is damned if he does damned if he doesn't at Plymouth got slagged off on here for playing gungho at other games he get slagged for changing the team about.sticks with the same team and he still gets slagged off. Give the guy a break. At least it keeps Crawley in the play offs. revenge will be ours next season when they get knocked out of the play offs. Prince35 when you slag a league off or a player read it over because you called their league a micky mouse league. Yet comment that Parky let him go there because he might go to another league 2 team and score a goal against us. Make your mind up if it's micky mouse league as you say and yet he could come back to league 2 to score goals. eebygum
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11:40pm Tue 10 Apr 12

dannbradfc says...

KnightMcCall wrote:
lonniejockstrap wrote:
dannbradfc wrote:
dannbradfc wrote:
lonniejockstrap wrote:
lonniejockstrap wrote:
dannbradfc wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
prince35 wrote: Same,same, We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly. Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward. We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing. I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway) Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home. But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level. Promotion push next season , no chance!!!. Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.
Does the fact that your beloved Compton can't get in the St Johnstone team suggest that you might be wrong. Falkirk fans not sorry to see him go either
we don't know their circumstances though do we? what we do know is that for OUR club he performed at a consistent level and created opportunities for our strikers. Has there been a more consistent crosser for us this season? I bet if you asked Hanson he was enjoying having Compton attempt old fashioned wing play and get to the bye-line. How long has he had the ball aimed at his head from straight on? Compton wasn't 'all that' but was better than all the wide players since with the exception of Reid. Some will point out defensive lapses to his game but like Daley before him utilise the positives. When the opposition 'two-man' Reid whats the free man doing? reid and Fagan have both at times neglected their defensive duties but neither appear to have afforded the same scrutiny. Like i say Compton may not have been has 'great' has some make him sound but he showed more than his replacements have thus it can be argued that the squad went backwards in this respect......
Don't know what your definition of 'more consistent crosser is' but I can tell you that Reid has 10 assist so far. What did Compton have dann? Could I ask you why you think Jacko refused to sign Compton permanently? Are you claiming Compton turned down the offer of a contract from PP on the basis of the financial side not being enough? I was under the impression it was because he had offers of 18 months contracts from other Clubs (according to his contract). You are doing a lot of guesswork and making a lot of 'in your opinion' statements on this subject dann. If you feel so confident about what you are saying it would be nice to see some evidence to support your arguments/opinions.
correction: (according to his agent)
where your evidence for this? the only evidence you have offered in what is a smoke-screen of a post is that reid has made 10 assists. All the rest is also conjecture. The fact that i wan't comparing Compton and Reid makes the stat meaningless anyway. As for Jackson not offering a longer full-time contract. Again neither of us know why this was. So this is mere manipulation on your part. But what i will say is that from memory Compton came in later than the others and thus Jackson may have wanted to see what he can do before commtting. A lot of Jacksons budget would have already gone before Compton was given a trial thus this may also have factored in. For someone who attempts to be positive i can't see why you would wish to not prefer Compton over the likes of Atkinson, Haworth as i feel the squad would be stronger with him there. You wouldn't be taking Lawn's stance on this would you Lonnie? ;-).....
PS been 'under the impression' is not fact and is ultimately as valid as 'in my opinion'....
You asked about a 'more consistent crosser' I gave you Reid! Wheter or not we know the reason for Jackson not signing Compton permanantly the fact is he didn't! He snet him back to Falkirk and then brought him back on 5 month deal to see if he could prove he was good enough for a 'permanant' contract . PP wanted to extend Compton's loan because he felt he hadn't done enough to be given an 18 month deal. Compton knocked it back for a short term contract at St Johnstone. Get over it dann. 'under the impression' is much more valid than 'in my opinion' because: 'under the impression' was based on reading a quote from PP saying: "We spoke to Jack about staying here. He wanted a long-term commitment and financially we didn't think it added up - nothing more to it." (T@A 10th Jan 2012) I'm also trying to find the quote I read where PP says Compton's agent had said there had been offers -two if I remeber correctly- of 18 months contract. PP wouldn't offer the same so Compton chose to go. I am searching for the quote. Maybe you could support your opinion of Compton that it was turned down due to money reasons? Or were you not suggesting that? Where have I ever said or even implied I would 'not prefer Compton over the likes of Atkinson, Haworth'?????
The comments regarding Compton having an 18 month offer elsewhere were said on Radio Leeds which might be why you can't find it. PP clearly believed that Compton was playing games with the contract talks as he believed that a deal to the end of the season was all that Compton could expect...PP was right wasn't he.

For all the other comments; I am not having a go at COmpton; I would have been happy if he stayed; I am merely defending PP's decision to let him go. All of the 20-20 hindsight brigade pointing out that we have stuggled to replace him is totally irrelevant as PP doesn't have a time machine and DID offer Compton a chance to stay; a chance that Compton turned down.

Whether Compton was worth an 18 month contract is down to opinion but PP cleary wasn't willing to spend any of next season's budget on him when he would be playing second fiddle to Reid and is so one-footed that I cannot believe anyone would suggest that we sign him as a right-winger.
he played right wing and got rave reviews which even Parkinson said had been a good performance and had opened up options on the radio.....
[quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: Same,same, We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly. Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward. We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing. I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway) Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home. But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level. Promotion push next season , no chance!!!. Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.[/p][/quote]Does the fact that your beloved Compton can't get in the St Johnstone team suggest that you might be wrong. Falkirk fans not sorry to see him go either[/p][/quote]we don't know their circumstances though do we? what we do know is that for OUR club he performed at a consistent level and created opportunities for our strikers. Has there been a more consistent crosser for us this season? I bet if you asked Hanson he was enjoying having Compton attempt old fashioned wing play and get to the bye-line. How long has he had the ball aimed at his head from straight on? Compton wasn't 'all that' but was better than all the wide players since with the exception of Reid. Some will point out defensive lapses to his game but like Daley before him utilise the positives. When the opposition 'two-man' Reid whats the free man doing? reid and Fagan have both at times neglected their defensive duties but neither appear to have afforded the same scrutiny. Like i say Compton may not have been has 'great' has some make him sound but he showed more than his replacements have thus it can be argued that the squad went backwards in this respect......[/p][/quote]Don't know what your definition of 'more consistent crosser is' but I can tell you that Reid has 10 assist so far. What did Compton have dann? Could I ask you why you think Jacko refused to sign Compton permanently? Are you claiming Compton turned down the offer of a contract from PP on the basis of the financial side not being enough? I was under the impression it was because he had offers of 18 months contracts from other Clubs (according to his contract). You are doing a lot of guesswork and making a lot of 'in your opinion' statements on this subject dann. If you feel so confident about what you are saying it would be nice to see some evidence to support your arguments/opinions.[/p][/quote]correction: (according to his agent)[/p][/quote]where your evidence for this? the only evidence you have offered in what is a smoke-screen of a post is that reid has made 10 assists. All the rest is also conjecture. The fact that i wan't comparing Compton and Reid makes the stat meaningless anyway. As for Jackson not offering a longer full-time contract. Again neither of us know why this was. So this is mere manipulation on your part. But what i will say is that from memory Compton came in later than the others and thus Jackson may have wanted to see what he can do before commtting. A lot of Jacksons budget would have already gone before Compton was given a trial thus this may also have factored in. For someone who attempts to be positive i can't see why you would wish to not prefer Compton over the likes of Atkinson, Haworth as i feel the squad would be stronger with him there. You wouldn't be taking Lawn's stance on this would you Lonnie? ;-).....[/p][/quote]PS been 'under the impression' is not fact and is ultimately as valid as 'in my opinion'....[/p][/quote]You asked about a 'more consistent crosser' I gave you Reid! Wheter or not we know the reason for Jackson not signing Compton permanantly the fact is he didn't! He snet him back to Falkirk and then brought him back on 5 month deal to see if he could prove he was good enough for a 'permanant' contract . PP wanted to extend Compton's loan because he felt he hadn't done enough to be given an 18 month deal. Compton knocked it back for a short term contract at St Johnstone. Get over it dann. 'under the impression' is much more valid than 'in my opinion' because: 'under the impression' was based on reading a quote from PP saying: "We spoke to Jack about staying here. He wanted a long-term commitment and financially we didn't think it added up - nothing more to it." (T@A 10th Jan 2012) I'm also trying to find the quote I read where PP says Compton's agent had said there had been offers -two if I remeber correctly- of 18 months contract. PP wouldn't offer the same so Compton chose to go. I am searching for the quote. Maybe you could support your opinion of Compton that it was turned down due to money reasons? Or were you not suggesting that? Where have I ever said or even implied I would 'not prefer Compton over the likes of Atkinson, Haworth'?????[/p][/quote]The comments regarding Compton having an 18 month offer elsewhere were said on Radio Leeds which might be why you can't find it. PP clearly believed that Compton was playing games with the contract talks as he believed that a deal to the end of the season was all that Compton could expect...PP was right wasn't he. For all the other comments; I am not having a go at COmpton; I would have been happy if he stayed; I am merely defending PP's decision to let him go. All of the 20-20 hindsight brigade pointing out that we have stuggled to replace him is totally irrelevant as PP doesn't have a time machine and DID offer Compton a chance to stay; a chance that Compton turned down. Whether Compton was worth an 18 month contract is down to opinion but PP cleary wasn't willing to spend any of next season's budget on him when he would be playing second fiddle to Reid and is so one-footed that I cannot believe anyone would suggest that we sign him as a right-winger.[/p][/quote]he played right wing and got rave reviews which even Parkinson said had been a good performance and had opened up options on the radio..... dannbradfc
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5:05pm Wed 11 Apr 12

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

Dann, luck would have seen us earn a few more points but as Greg Norman said ' the more I practise (ie the harder I work) the luckier I get. The message is plain, work and try harder and the bounce ends in your favour BECAUSE you are fit and hunbgry enough to make it bounce in your favour.
Dann, luck would have seen us earn a few more points but as Greg Norman said ' the more I practise (ie the harder I work) the luckier I get. The message is plain, work and try harder and the bounce ends in your favour BECAUSE you are fit and hunbgry enough to make it bounce in your favour. Prisoner Cell Block A
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1:24pm Thu 12 Apr 12

lonniejockstrap says...

KnightMcCall wrote:
lonniejockstrap wrote:
dannbradfc wrote:
dannbradfc wrote:
lonniejockstrap wrote:
lonniejockstrap wrote:
dannbradfc wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
prince35 wrote: Same,same, We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly. Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward. We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing. I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway) Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home. But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level. Promotion push next season , no chance!!!. Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.
Does the fact that your beloved Compton can't get in the St Johnstone team suggest that you might be wrong. Falkirk fans not sorry to see him go either
we don't know their circumstances though do we? what we do know is that for OUR club he performed at a consistent level and created opportunities for our strikers. Has there been a more consistent crosser for us this season? I bet if you asked Hanson he was enjoying having Compton attempt old fashioned wing play and get to the bye-line. How long has he had the ball aimed at his head from straight on? Compton wasn't 'all that' but was better than all the wide players since with the exception of Reid. Some will point out defensive lapses to his game but like Daley before him utilise the positives. When the opposition 'two-man' Reid whats the free man doing? reid and Fagan have both at times neglected their defensive duties but neither appear to have afforded the same scrutiny. Like i say Compton may not have been has 'great' has some make him sound but he showed more than his replacements have thus it can be argued that the squad went backwards in this respect......
Don't know what your definition of 'more consistent crosser is' but I can tell you that Reid has 10 assist so far. What did Compton have dann? Could I ask you why you think Jacko refused to sign Compton permanently? Are you claiming Compton turned down the offer of a contract from PP on the basis of the financial side not being enough? I was under the impression it was because he had offers of 18 months contracts from other Clubs (according to his contract). You are doing a lot of guesswork and making a lot of 'in your opinion' statements on this subject dann. If you feel so confident about what you are saying it would be nice to see some evidence to support your arguments/opinions.
correction: (according to his agent)
where your evidence for this? the only evidence you have offered in what is a smoke-screen of a post is that reid has made 10 assists. All the rest is also conjecture. The fact that i wan't comparing Compton and Reid makes the stat meaningless anyway. As for Jackson not offering a longer full-time contract. Again neither of us know why this was. So this is mere manipulation on your part. But what i will say is that from memory Compton came in later than the others and thus Jackson may have wanted to see what he can do before commtting. A lot of Jacksons budget would have already gone before Compton was given a trial thus this may also have factored in. For someone who attempts to be positive i can't see why you would wish to not prefer Compton over the likes of Atkinson, Haworth as i feel the squad would be stronger with him there. You wouldn't be taking Lawn's stance on this would you Lonnie? ;-).....
PS been 'under the impression' is not fact and is ultimately as valid as 'in my opinion'....
You asked about a 'more consistent crosser' I gave you Reid! Wheter or not we know the reason for Jackson not signing Compton permanantly the fact is he didn't! He snet him back to Falkirk and then brought him back on 5 month deal to see if he could prove he was good enough for a 'permanant' contract . PP wanted to extend Compton's loan because he felt he hadn't done enough to be given an 18 month deal. Compton knocked it back for a short term contract at St Johnstone. Get over it dann. 'under the impression' is much more valid than 'in my opinion' because: 'under the impression' was based on reading a quote from PP saying: "We spoke to Jack about staying here. He wanted a long-term commitment and financially we didn't think it added up - nothing more to it." (T@A 10th Jan 2012) I'm also trying to find the quote I read where PP says Compton's agent had said there had been offers -two if I remeber correctly- of 18 months contract. PP wouldn't offer the same so Compton chose to go. I am searching for the quote. Maybe you could support your opinion of Compton that it was turned down due to money reasons? Or were you not suggesting that? Where have I ever said or even implied I would 'not prefer Compton over the likes of Atkinson, Haworth'?????
The comments regarding Compton having an 18 month offer elsewhere were said on Radio Leeds which might be why you can't find it. PP clearly believed that Compton was playing games with the contract talks as he believed that a deal to the end of the season was all that Compton could expect...PP was right wasn't he.

For all the other comments; I am not having a go at COmpton; I would have been happy if he stayed; I am merely defending PP's decision to let him go. All of the 20-20 hindsight brigade pointing out that we have stuggled to replace him is totally irrelevant as PP doesn't have a time machine and DID offer Compton a chance to stay; a chance that Compton turned down.

Whether Compton was worth an 18 month contract is down to opinion but PP cleary wasn't willing to spend any of next season's budget on him when he would be playing second fiddle to Reid and is so one-footed that I cannot believe anyone would suggest that we sign him as a right-winger.
Cheers for that re comments on Radio Leeds.
[quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lonniejockstrap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: Same,same, We concede to many set pieces and free kicks against us and dont defend properly. Go a goal down and we start to play and look a threat going forward. We lack real width in the squad when Reid isn't playing. I don't care what anybody says jack compton was well worth a 2 year contract at cty , wingers are like gold dust (good ones anyway) Superb second half effort against a side who haven't lost at home. But when we learn to play 90 mins at a tempo , we will win more games at this level. Promotion push next season , no chance!!!. Major surgery is required to get us into the midtable positions.[/p][/quote]Does the fact that your beloved Compton can't get in the St Johnstone team suggest that you might be wrong. Falkirk fans not sorry to see him go either[/p][/quote]we don't know their circumstances though do we? what we do know is that for OUR club he performed at a consistent level and created opportunities for our strikers. Has there been a more consistent crosser for us this season? I bet if you asked Hanson he was enjoying having Compton attempt old fashioned wing play and get to the bye-line. How long has he had the ball aimed at his head from straight on? Compton wasn't 'all that' but was better than all the wide players since with the exception of Reid. Some will point out defensive lapses to his game but like Daley before him utilise the positives. When the opposition 'two-man' Reid whats the free man doing? reid and Fagan have both at times neglected their defensive duties but neither appear to have afforded the same scrutiny. Like i say Compton may not have been has 'great' has some make him sound but he showed more than his replacements have thus it can be argued that the squad went backwards in this respect......[/p][/quote]Don't know what your definition of 'more consistent crosser is' but I can tell you that Reid has 10 assist so far. What did Compton have dann? Could I ask you why you think Jacko refused to sign Compton permanently? Are you claiming Compton turned down the offer of a contract from PP on the basis of the financial side not being enough? I was under the impression it was because he had offers of 18 months contracts from other Clubs (according to his contract). You are doing a lot of guesswork and making a lot of 'in your opinion' statements on this subject dann. If you feel so confident about what you are saying it would be nice to see some evidence to support your arguments/opinions.[/p][/quote]correction: (according to his agent)[/p][/quote]where your evidence for this? the only evidence you have offered in what is a smoke-screen of a post is that reid has made 10 assists. All the rest is also conjecture. The fact that i wan't comparing Compton and Reid makes the stat meaningless anyway. As for Jackson not offering a longer full-time contract. Again neither of us know why this was. So this is mere manipulation on your part. But what i will say is that from memory Compton came in later than the others and thus Jackson may have wanted to see what he can do before commtting. A lot of Jacksons budget would have already gone before Compton was given a trial thus this may also have factored in. For someone who attempts to be positive i can't see why you would wish to not prefer Compton over the likes of Atkinson, Haworth as i feel the squad would be stronger with him there. You wouldn't be taking Lawn's stance on this would you Lonnie? ;-).....[/p][/quote]PS been 'under the impression' is not fact and is ultimately as valid as 'in my opinion'....[/p][/quote]You asked about a 'more consistent crosser' I gave you Reid! Wheter or not we know the reason for Jackson not signing Compton permanantly the fact is he didn't! He snet him back to Falkirk and then brought him back on 5 month deal to see if he could prove he was good enough for a 'permanant' contract . PP wanted to extend Compton's loan because he felt he hadn't done enough to be given an 18 month deal. Compton knocked it back for a short term contract at St Johnstone. Get over it dann. 'under the impression' is much more valid than 'in my opinion' because: 'under the impression' was based on reading a quote from PP saying: "We spoke to Jack about staying here. He wanted a long-term commitment and financially we didn't think it added up - nothing more to it." (T@A 10th Jan 2012) I'm also trying to find the quote I read where PP says Compton's agent had said there had been offers -two if I remeber correctly- of 18 months contract. PP wouldn't offer the same so Compton chose to go. I am searching for the quote. Maybe you could support your opinion of Compton that it was turned down due to money reasons? Or were you not suggesting that? Where have I ever said or even implied I would 'not prefer Compton over the likes of Atkinson, Haworth'?????[/p][/quote]The comments regarding Compton having an 18 month offer elsewhere were said on Radio Leeds which might be why you can't find it. PP clearly believed that Compton was playing games with the contract talks as he believed that a deal to the end of the season was all that Compton could expect...PP was right wasn't he. For all the other comments; I am not having a go at COmpton; I would have been happy if he stayed; I am merely defending PP's decision to let him go. All of the 20-20 hindsight brigade pointing out that we have stuggled to replace him is totally irrelevant as PP doesn't have a time machine and DID offer Compton a chance to stay; a chance that Compton turned down. Whether Compton was worth an 18 month contract is down to opinion but PP cleary wasn't willing to spend any of next season's budget on him when he would be playing second fiddle to Reid and is so one-footed that I cannot believe anyone would suggest that we sign him as a right-winger.[/p][/quote]Cheers for that re comments on Radio Leeds. lonniejockstrap
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Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
Dann, luck would have seen us earn a few more points but as Greg Norman said ' the more I practise (ie the harder I work) the luckier I get. The message is plain, work and try harder and the bounce ends in your favour BECAUSE you are fit and hunbgry enough to make it bounce in your favour.
Agree with all that PCBA. But if for example Syers had avoided the 'bad luck' of injury at Elland Rd, and the sending off on his 1st game back then Who knows what difference it could have made. There was also the 'luck' that went against Davies for what looked like a fairly innocuous tackle resulting in a sending off and a couple of bits of unlucky injuries to the likes of Oliver and Hanson. As McCall and Warnock have said: they would prefer to be a lucky Manager than a good one.
[quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: Dann, luck would have seen us earn a few more points but as Greg Norman said ' the more I practise (ie the harder I work) the luckier I get. The message is plain, work and try harder and the bounce ends in your favour BECAUSE you are fit and hunbgry enough to make it bounce in your favour.[/p][/quote]Agree with all that PCBA. But if for example Syers had avoided the 'bad luck' of injury at Elland Rd, and the sending off on his 1st game back then Who knows what difference it could have made. There was also the 'luck' that went against Davies for what looked like a fairly innocuous tackle resulting in a sending off and a couple of bits of unlucky injuries to the likes of Oliver and Hanson. As McCall and Warnock have said: they would prefer to be a lucky Manager than a good one. lonniejockstrap
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