Banned Bradford City brawl trio can still play key role

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Former City captain Guy Branston is poised to return to the side at Plymouth Former City captain Guy Branston is poised to return to the side at Plymouth

Phil Parkinson will not banish City’s disgraced trio from the climax to their season.

Luke Oliver, Andrew Davies and Jon McLaughlin have all stayed away from the training ground ahead of tomorrow’s critical trip to survival rivals Plymouth.

None will be available again for Parkinson until after the Easter weekend at least as they serve bans following the battle of Crawley.

The Bantams are not expected to appeal after the Football Association tonight charged them with failing to control their players.

But City’s boss insists the guilty trio still have a role to play before the campaign is over.

Parkinson said: “When you do something (wrong), you have to pay the penalty. But once that’s happened, we’ll carry on and make sure they are ready for the part of the season they can play in.

With the lads who got sent off missing, it gives those others the opportunity and I’m sure they will take it

Phil Parkinson

“The most important thing is we win enough games between now and the end of the season. Being without those players makes it more difficult. But when they are available after the relevant bans, of course they’ll be used if they are needed.”

Crawley have been handed the same charge following Tuesday’s brawl.

There is also an added charge for Pablo Mills, one of the five players sent off, as well as a new one for Kyle McFadzean.

But Parkinson’s thoughts are trained on the Home Park clash with the side three points and three places behind.

Matt Duke returns in goal after being recalled from Northampton and Guy Branston is set for his first City game since October alongside Lee Bullock at centre half.

Parkinson said: “We sent Matt out on loan to get games and he’s done well. He comes back in good form and I know he’s a very good goalkeeper.

“Guy’s professionalism has been first class and he gets his opportunity now. With the lads who got sent off missing, it gives those others the opportunity and I’m sure they will take it.

“The three players weren’t here yesterday because I thought it was best they stayed away. Let Steve (Parkin) and I focus on the team.

“How do I lift morale? I could try and have a jovial training session. But to be fair, the only way to lift morale is to go to Plymouth and get the result.”

Simon Ramsden is fit to return after missing Tuesday as a precaution with a tight hamstring. In hindsight, that decision has done Parkinson a favour, especially with left back Matt Fry troubled by his groin.

Ricky Ravenhill also hopes to recover in time from the painful kick on the ankle he suffered from a lunging foul by Crawley striker Leon Clarke.

Plymouth have lost only one of their last eight home games, although five have ended in draws. Carl Fletcher’s side have also tightened up considerably at the back and have let in only five goals from ten outings.

Fletcher last week brought in namesake Steve and the 39-year-old former Bournemouth battering ram, who used to have some real duels with David Wetherall, could make his home debut.

It will be City’s first visit to the most southerly ground in England since August 1994, when Paul Jewell scored a hat-trick in a 5-1 win.

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8:23am Fri 30 Mar 12

Dave2610 says...

If the trio who come in for the banned trio play well and we get some points to make us safe, why bring them back let them suffer I would say!!
If the trio who come in for the banned trio play well and we get some points to make us safe, why bring them back let them suffer I would say!! Dave2610

8:26am Fri 30 Mar 12

prince35 says...

Parkinson's management skills will be tested to the full in this run in.
Branston is obviously not in parkinsons long term thoughts at bradford.
Branno is a solid pro who will not let anybody down , should he be thrust into action.
For me the Plymouth game is do not loose game.
As soon as bradford are safe from the drop.
Serious questions have to be asked as to what really is the isssue as to why any manager coming in can not get US into a top half lge 2 finish????.
Me I think there's issues behind the scenes at bradford.
Parkinson's management skills will be tested to the full in this run in. Branston is obviously not in parkinsons long term thoughts at bradford. Branno is a solid pro who will not let anybody down , should he be thrust into action. For me the Plymouth game is do not loose game. As soon as bradford are safe from the drop. Serious questions have to be asked as to what really is the isssue as to why any manager coming in can not get US into a top half lge 2 finish????. Me I think there's issues behind the scenes at bradford. prince35

8:41am Fri 30 Mar 12

fatbloke says...

I think the squad as individual players are good enough for a serious promotion push in leaguen 1 or holding their own in the championship.

I would find it difficult to point out any individuals that have had an awful season nor that of a fantastic one.

If players were sent out to do what they are good at and play to individual strengths, winning would breed confidence and a very very succesful team in this league.

I blame 1 man for our awful season but I am hoping he has realised the best form of defence is not to be very very rigid and defensive.

Some say he didnt have a pre-season and next year will be the big firework display. Well who am I or any of us to say their opinion is wrong.

I am confident we will survive if Parkie has turned that little corner and lets hope people like Gspot are right about this massive pre-season.
I think the squad as individual players are good enough for a serious promotion push in leaguen 1 or holding their own in the championship. I would find it difficult to point out any individuals that have had an awful season nor that of a fantastic one. If players were sent out to do what they are good at and play to individual strengths, winning would breed confidence and a very very succesful team in this league. I blame 1 man for our awful season but I am hoping he has realised the best form of defence is not to be very very rigid and defensive. Some say he didnt have a pre-season and next year will be the big firework display. Well who am I or any of us to say their opinion is wrong. I am confident we will survive if Parkie has turned that little corner and lets hope people like Gspot are right about this massive pre-season. fatbloke

8:43am Fri 30 Mar 12

ALEXIMO.56. says...

prince35 wrote:
Parkinson's management skills will be tested to the full in this run in.
Branston is obviously not in parkinsons long term thoughts at bradford.
Branno is a solid pro who will not let anybody down , should he be thrust into action.
For me the Plymouth game is do not loose game.
As soon as bradford are safe from the drop.
Serious questions have to be asked as to what really is the isssue as to why any manager coming in can not get US into a top half lge 2 finish????.
Me I think there's issues behind the scenes at bradford.
I have to agree there. A friend of mine who sits next to me said on Tuesday himself, There must be something seriously wrong within the club.
[quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: Parkinson's management skills will be tested to the full in this run in. Branston is obviously not in parkinsons long term thoughts at bradford. Branno is a solid pro who will not let anybody down , should he be thrust into action. For me the Plymouth game is do not loose game. As soon as bradford are safe from the drop. Serious questions have to be asked as to what really is the isssue as to why any manager coming in can not get US into a top half lge 2 finish????. Me I think there's issues behind the scenes at bradford.[/p][/quote]I have to agree there. A friend of mine who sits next to me said on Tuesday himself, There must be something seriously wrong within the club. ALEXIMO.56.

8:49am Fri 30 Mar 12

shaun from richmond says...

ALEXIMO.56. wrote:
prince35 wrote: Parkinson's management skills will be tested to the full in this run in. Branston is obviously not in parkinsons long term thoughts at bradford. Branno is a solid pro who will not let anybody down , should he be thrust into action. For me the Plymouth game is do not loose game. As soon as bradford are safe from the drop. Serious questions have to be asked as to what really is the isssue as to why any manager coming in can not get US into a top half lge 2 finish????. Me I think there's issues behind the scenes at bradford.
I have to agree there. A friend of mine who sits next to me said on Tuesday himself, There must be something seriously wrong within the club.
Well if the bloke next to you said "there must be something seriously wrong within the club"!! THERE MUST BE!!.
[quote][p][bold]ALEXIMO.56.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: Parkinson's management skills will be tested to the full in this run in. Branston is obviously not in parkinsons long term thoughts at bradford. Branno is a solid pro who will not let anybody down , should he be thrust into action. For me the Plymouth game is do not loose game. As soon as bradford are safe from the drop. Serious questions have to be asked as to what really is the isssue as to why any manager coming in can not get US into a top half lge 2 finish????. Me I think there's issues behind the scenes at bradford.[/p][/quote]I have to agree there. A friend of mine who sits next to me said on Tuesday himself, There must be something seriously wrong within the club.[/p][/quote]Well if the bloke next to you said "there must be something seriously wrong within the club"!! THERE MUST BE!!. shaun from richmond

9:13am Fri 30 Mar 12

prince35 says...

@shaun from Richmond.
So you feel the club is running along nicely do you????.

Over the last 3 years to me massive mistakes have been made and those at the top of this football club should look at there position and ask themselves what a total fiasco this season has been???.

The Jackson mess!!!!.
The Archie Christie mess!!!!.
Parkinsons poor run of form!!!.

The whole direction of this club is changed season to season with a chairman who's public relations with supporters is laughable.

No those in charge at the top should take responsabillity
@shaun from Richmond. So you feel the club is running along nicely do you????. Over the last 3 years to me massive mistakes have been made and those at the top of this football club should look at there position and ask themselves what a total fiasco this season has been???. The Jackson mess!!!!. The Archie Christie mess!!!!. Parkinsons poor run of form!!!. The whole direction of this club is changed season to season with a chairman who's public relations with supporters is laughable. No those in charge at the top should take responsabillity prince35

9:18am Fri 30 Mar 12

Dannyp1892 says...

shaun from richmond wrote:
ALEXIMO.56. wrote:
prince35 wrote: Parkinson's management skills will be tested to the full in this run in. Branston is obviously not in parkinsons long term thoughts at bradford. Branno is a solid pro who will not let anybody down , should he be thrust into action. For me the Plymouth game is do not loose game. As soon as bradford are safe from the drop. Serious questions have to be asked as to what really is the isssue as to why any manager coming in can not get US into a top half lge 2 finish????. Me I think there's issues behind the scenes at bradford.
I have to agree there. A friend of mine who sits next to me said on Tuesday himself, There must be something seriously wrong within the club.
Well if the bloke next to you said "there must be something seriously wrong within the club"!! THERE MUST BE!!.
We need to find out who this man is Shaun, he seems to have the inside knowledge, the mysterious friend in the next seat... Problems are on the pitch, end of! Not enough goals scored, far too many conceced, hence you lose football matches, it's really quite simple
[quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ALEXIMO.56.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: Parkinson's management skills will be tested to the full in this run in. Branston is obviously not in parkinsons long term thoughts at bradford. Branno is a solid pro who will not let anybody down , should he be thrust into action. For me the Plymouth game is do not loose game. As soon as bradford are safe from the drop. Serious questions have to be asked as to what really is the isssue as to why any manager coming in can not get US into a top half lge 2 finish????. Me I think there's issues behind the scenes at bradford.[/p][/quote]I have to agree there. A friend of mine who sits next to me said on Tuesday himself, There must be something seriously wrong within the club.[/p][/quote]Well if the bloke next to you said "there must be something seriously wrong within the club"!! THERE MUST BE!!.[/p][/quote]We need to find out who this man is Shaun, he seems to have the inside knowledge, the mysterious friend in the next seat... Problems are on the pitch, end of! Not enough goals scored, far too many conceced, hence you lose football matches, it's really quite simple Dannyp1892

9:24am Fri 30 Mar 12

Dannyp1892 says...

prince35 wrote:
@shaun from Richmond. So you feel the club is running along nicely do you????. Over the last 3 years to me massive mistakes have been made and those at the top of this football club should look at there position and ask themselves what a total fiasco this season has been???. The Jackson mess!!!!. The Archie Christie mess!!!!. Parkinsons poor run of form!!!. The whole direction of this club is changed season to season with a chairman who's public relations with supporters is laughable. No those in charge at the top should take responsabillity
I see your point of view too, but we can't just keep blaming the board. The players have to take responsibility for the results too. They have not been anywhere near good enough. You are right about the club being in turmoil, it's laughable, and so is ML, but it's player performance that gets points, and league table says we don't have many. It's a sad state of affairs
[quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: @shaun from Richmond. So you feel the club is running along nicely do you????. Over the last 3 years to me massive mistakes have been made and those at the top of this football club should look at there position and ask themselves what a total fiasco this season has been???. The Jackson mess!!!!. The Archie Christie mess!!!!. Parkinsons poor run of form!!!. The whole direction of this club is changed season to season with a chairman who's public relations with supporters is laughable. No those in charge at the top should take responsabillity[/p][/quote]I see your point of view too, but we can't just keep blaming the board. The players have to take responsibility for the results too. They have not been anywhere near good enough. You are right about the club being in turmoil, it's laughable, and so is ML, but it's player performance that gets points, and league table says we don't have many. It's a sad state of affairs Dannyp1892

9:25am Fri 30 Mar 12

fatbloke says...

prince35 wrote:
@shaun from Richmond.
So you feel the club is running along nicely do you????.

Over the last 3 years to me massive mistakes have been made and those at the top of this football club should look at there position and ask themselves what a total fiasco this season has been???.

The Jackson mess!!!!.
The Archie Christie mess!!!!.
Parkinsons poor run of form!!!.

The whole direction of this club is changed season to season with a chairman who's public relations with supporters is laughable.

No those in charge at the top should take responsabillity
Think Shaun is being sarcastic prince!!
[quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: @shaun from Richmond. So you feel the club is running along nicely do you????. Over the last 3 years to me massive mistakes have been made and those at the top of this football club should look at there position and ask themselves what a total fiasco this season has been???. The Jackson mess!!!!. The Archie Christie mess!!!!. Parkinsons poor run of form!!!. The whole direction of this club is changed season to season with a chairman who's public relations with supporters is laughable. No those in charge at the top should take responsabillity[/p][/quote]Think Shaun is being sarcastic prince!! fatbloke

9:31am Fri 30 Mar 12

Cityman23 says...

I think Phil Parkinson was ill advised to make a comment to the press of this sort.

Yes, if a person who has committed a 'crime' has served his/her sentence (whether football 'crime' or in the wider world) they SHOULD be allowed to 'move on' and start afresh with a clean 'slate.'

However, the problem is..the 'sentence' for those three players (and the Crawley Players too) has NOT been ..FINALISED!!

Yes, the 'three' have been given immediate bans of Davies-5/McLoughlin-
3/Oliver 3. But...is that the end of it?

Well, most probably..NO!
The chances are a further punishment is going to be following...in its slipstream which 'could' be worse for those three but, more worringly for Bradford City itself.

As a City fan, I'm hoping that that punishment will be 'moderate', 'measured' and certainly not significant enough to jeopardise the club's existence in League Two or...even the club's 'existence' (which could be put at risk by relegation to the non-leagues!!)

'PP'/ML/JR need to think VERY carefully before making public statements through the media which MAY give the impression (particularly to the FA!!) that they (think the issue is over) do not take the antics of Tuesday night seriously enough!!!

I would say a large dose of repentence/contritio
n is the 'way to go' (for every possible reason!!) at the moment (whether its felt genuinely or not!!)
I think Phil Parkinson was ill advised to make a comment to the press of this sort. Yes, if a person who has committed a 'crime' has served his/her sentence (whether football 'crime' or in the wider world) they SHOULD be allowed to 'move on' and start afresh with a clean 'slate.' However, the problem is..the 'sentence' for those three players (and the Crawley Players too) has NOT been ..FINALISED!! Yes, the 'three' have been given immediate bans of Davies-5/McLoughlin- 3/Oliver 3. But...is that the end of it? Well, most probably..NO! The chances are a further punishment is going to be following...in its slipstream which 'could' be worse for those three but, more worringly for Bradford City itself. As a City fan, I'm hoping that that punishment will be 'moderate', 'measured' and certainly not significant enough to jeopardise the club's existence in League Two or...even the club's 'existence' (which could be put at risk by relegation to the non-leagues!!) 'PP'/ML/JR need to think VERY carefully before making public statements through the media which MAY give the impression (particularly to the FA!!) that they (think the issue is over) do not take the antics of Tuesday night seriously enough!!! I would say a large dose of repentence/contritio n is the 'way to go' (for every possible reason!!) at the moment (whether its felt genuinely or not!!) Cityman23

9:34am Fri 30 Mar 12

Dannyp1892 says...

Cityman23 wrote:
I think Phil Parkinson was ill advised to make a comment to the press of this sort. Yes, if a person who has committed a 'crime' has served his/her sentence (whether football 'crime' or in the wider world) they SHOULD be allowed to 'move on' and start afresh with a clean 'slate.' However, the problem is..the 'sentence' for those three players (and the Crawley Players too) has NOT been ..FINALISED!! Yes, the 'three' have been given immediate bans of Davies-5/McLoughlin- 3/Oliver 3. But...is that the end of it? Well, most probably..NO! The chances are a further punishment is going to be following...in its slipstream which 'could' be worse for those three but, more worringly for Bradford City itself. As a City fan, I'm hoping that that punishment will be 'moderate', 'measured' and certainly not significant enough to jeopardise the club's existence in League Two or...even the club's 'existence' (which could be put at risk by relegation to the non-leagues!!) 'PP'/ML/JR need to think VERY carefully before making public statements through the media which MAY give the impression (particularly to the FA!!) that they (think the issue is over) do not take the antics of Tuesday night seriously enough!!! I would say a large dose of repentence/contritio n is the 'way to go' (for every possible reason!!) at the moment (whether its felt genuinely or not!!)
Ere Ere... A points deduction would be a final nail in our coffin. Good Post
[quote][p][bold]Cityman23[/bold] wrote: I think Phil Parkinson was ill advised to make a comment to the press of this sort. Yes, if a person who has committed a 'crime' has served his/her sentence (whether football 'crime' or in the wider world) they SHOULD be allowed to 'move on' and start afresh with a clean 'slate.' However, the problem is..the 'sentence' for those three players (and the Crawley Players too) has NOT been ..FINALISED!! Yes, the 'three' have been given immediate bans of Davies-5/McLoughlin- 3/Oliver 3. But...is that the end of it? Well, most probably..NO! The chances are a further punishment is going to be following...in its slipstream which 'could' be worse for those three but, more worringly for Bradford City itself. As a City fan, I'm hoping that that punishment will be 'moderate', 'measured' and certainly not significant enough to jeopardise the club's existence in League Two or...even the club's 'existence' (which could be put at risk by relegation to the non-leagues!!) 'PP'/ML/JR need to think VERY carefully before making public statements through the media which MAY give the impression (particularly to the FA!!) that they (think the issue is over) do not take the antics of Tuesday night seriously enough!!! I would say a large dose of repentence/contritio n is the 'way to go' (for every possible reason!!) at the moment (whether its felt genuinely or not!!)[/p][/quote]Ere Ere... A points deduction would be a final nail in our coffin. Good Post Dannyp1892

9:35am Fri 30 Mar 12

prince35 says...

@fatbloke.
Time for some fresh blood in the boardroom if you ask me.
A change is has good as a rest!!!.

Chairman could take a bk seat keep his money invested in the club and bring in a managing directer who's got experiance running a football club and chairman lawn can go back to watching the games as a,supporter.
@fatbloke. Time for some fresh blood in the boardroom if you ask me. A change is has good as a rest!!!. Chairman could take a bk seat keep his money invested in the club and bring in a managing directer who's got experiance running a football club and chairman lawn can go back to watching the games as a,supporter. prince35

9:44am Fri 30 Mar 12

total90 says...

I THINK i must have taken a punch myself the other night, I thought that there was only two home games but obviously there are three. My sentiments remain the same though not that that matters either. Who ever steps in to help us out in our time of need, has to really be made aware of our gratitude. They will do their best and we as supporters can do our bit to ensure that. As supporters we may have agreed with their exclusion but I suggest put our feelings to one side and support and lift a man that you otherwise would not have selected. If branston or duke get the call I believe that they will be really,professional even though they were not part of the current managers plans. I feel that we have the squad that can keep us up I just hope, it's managed right.
I THINK i must have taken a punch myself the other night, I thought that there was only two home games but obviously there are three. My sentiments remain the same though not that that matters either. Who ever steps in to help us out in our time of need, has to really be made aware of our gratitude. They will do their best and we as supporters can do our bit to ensure that. As supporters we may have agreed with their exclusion but I suggest put our feelings to one side and support and lift a man that you otherwise would not have selected. If branston or duke get the call I believe that they will be really,professional even though they were not part of the current managers plans. I feel that we have the squad that can keep us up I just hope, it's managed right. total90

9:54am Fri 30 Mar 12

parader no1 says...

There is certainly something very wrong somewhere, whether it is the manager, the players or a combination is debatable. The players Parkinson has brought in have played at a higher level, on paper they are better than any other team in the division have. They are not playing to their potential so if thats their fault or the managers it needs sorting and quickly, I suspect a combination of both. We have seen in patches what they can do we just need the right system and players in their correct positions
There is certainly something very wrong somewhere, whether it is the manager, the players or a combination is debatable. The players Parkinson has brought in have played at a higher level, on paper they are better than any other team in the division have. They are not playing to their potential so if thats their fault or the managers it needs sorting and quickly, I suspect a combination of both. We have seen in patches what they can do we just need the right system and players in their correct positions parader no1

10:05am Fri 30 Mar 12

Tinybantam says...

fatbloke wrote:
I think the squad as individual players are good enough for a serious promotion push in leaguen 1 or holding their own in the championship.

I would find it difficult to point out any individuals that have had an awful season nor that of a fantastic one.

If players were sent out to do what they are good at and play to individual strengths, winning would breed confidence and a very very succesful team in this league.

I blame 1 man for our awful season but I am hoping he has realised the best form of defence is not to be very very rigid and defensive.

Some say he didnt have a pre-season and next year will be the big firework display. Well who am I or any of us to say their opinion is wrong.

I am confident we will survive if Parkie has turned that little corner and lets hope people like Gspot are right about this massive pre-season.
Fatbloke.....I am sorry to disgree with your statement that our players are good enough for a serious promotion push in league one, or even hold their own in the championship. They should be in the top half of league 2 and maybe challenging for play-offs, but can you seriously say that our squad is comparable in quality to those of Charlton, Sheff. United, Wednesday, Huddersfield, MK Don's or even Carlisle? I would swap any one of those six squad's for ours, wouldn't you?
[quote][p][bold]fatbloke[/bold] wrote: I think the squad as individual players are good enough for a serious promotion push in leaguen 1 or holding their own in the championship. I would find it difficult to point out any individuals that have had an awful season nor that of a fantastic one. If players were sent out to do what they are good at and play to individual strengths, winning would breed confidence and a very very succesful team in this league. I blame 1 man for our awful season but I am hoping he has realised the best form of defence is not to be very very rigid and defensive. Some say he didnt have a pre-season and next year will be the big firework display. Well who am I or any of us to say their opinion is wrong. I am confident we will survive if Parkie has turned that little corner and lets hope people like Gspot are right about this massive pre-season.[/p][/quote]Fatbloke.....I am sorry to disgree with your statement that our players are good enough for a serious promotion push in league one, or even hold their own in the championship. They should be in the top half of league 2 and maybe challenging for play-offs, but can you seriously say that our squad is comparable in quality to those of Charlton, Sheff. United, Wednesday, Huddersfield, MK Don's or even Carlisle? I would swap any one of those six squad's for ours, wouldn't you? Tinybantam

10:16am Fri 30 Mar 12

dannbradfc says...

prince35 wrote:
@shaun from Richmond.
So you feel the club is running along nicely do you????.

Over the last 3 years to me massive mistakes have been made and those at the top of this football club should look at there position and ask themselves what a total fiasco this season has been???.

The Jackson mess!!!!.
The Archie Christie mess!!!!.
Parkinsons poor run of form!!!.

The whole direction of this club is changed season to season with a chairman who's public relations with supporters is laughable.

No those in charge at the top should take responsabillity
agreed. there are a few common denominators that we are seeing repeatedly.

Managers resignations and a back-scene one too....

a huge amount of cheap option loans been used.....

nearly 40 players year on year....

short term thinking.....

Parky hasn't helped himself but was he TOLD to get rid of certain players and then despite the nearly 40 used the reality is a lesser amount. There does appear to have been players frozen out since Parkys appoinment and this fits in with Lawn's comment/view......
[quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: @shaun from Richmond. So you feel the club is running along nicely do you????. Over the last 3 years to me massive mistakes have been made and those at the top of this football club should look at there position and ask themselves what a total fiasco this season has been???. The Jackson mess!!!!. The Archie Christie mess!!!!. Parkinsons poor run of form!!!. The whole direction of this club is changed season to season with a chairman who's public relations with supporters is laughable. No those in charge at the top should take responsabillity[/p][/quote]agreed. there are a few common denominators that we are seeing repeatedly. Managers resignations and a back-scene one too.... a huge amount of cheap option loans been used..... nearly 40 players year on year.... short term thinking..... Parky hasn't helped himself but was he TOLD to get rid of certain players and then despite the nearly 40 used the reality is a lesser amount. There does appear to have been players frozen out since Parkys appoinment and this fits in with Lawn's comment/view...... dannbradfc

10:33am Fri 30 Mar 12

Gemzki-Lou says...

Embarrassment! It shouldn't be Bradford Bulls threatened with administration! should be these!!!
Embarrassment! It shouldn't be Bradford Bulls threatened with administration! should be these!!! Gemzki-Lou

10:39am Fri 30 Mar 12

Dannyp1892 says...

Gemzki-Lou wrote:
Embarrassment! It shouldn't be Bradford Bulls threatened with administration! should be these!!!
Are you for real? 2 completely different organisations, in 2 completely different situations, the bulls posts are on another web page. As much as I love The Bulls and City, your comment just seems ridiculous
[quote][p][bold]Gemzki-Lou[/bold] wrote: Embarrassment! It shouldn't be Bradford Bulls threatened with administration! should be these!!![/p][/quote]Are you for real? 2 completely different organisations, in 2 completely different situations, the bulls posts are on another web page. As much as I love The Bulls and City, your comment just seems ridiculous Dannyp1892

10:50am Fri 30 Mar 12

Farsley Bantam says...

Gemzki-Lou wrote:
Embarrassment! It shouldn't be Bradford Bulls threatened with administration! should be these!!!
Why may I ask? If its because of the punch up the other night then you are talking out of your ars3. It happens a couple of times a season in egg chasing
[quote][p][bold]Gemzki-Lou[/bold] wrote: Embarrassment! It shouldn't be Bradford Bulls threatened with administration! should be these!!![/p][/quote]Why may I ask? If its because of the punch up the other night then you are talking out of your ars3. It happens a couple of times a season in egg chasing Farsley Bantam

10:56am Fri 30 Mar 12

fatbloke says...

Tinybantam wrote:
fatbloke wrote:
I think the squad as individual players are good enough for a serious promotion push in leaguen 1 or holding their own in the championship.

I would find it difficult to point out any individuals that have had an awful season nor that of a fantastic one.

If players were sent out to do what they are good at and play to individual strengths, winning would breed confidence and a very very succesful team in this league.

I blame 1 man for our awful season but I am hoping he has realised the best form of defence is not to be very very rigid and defensive.

Some say he didnt have a pre-season and next year will be the big firework display. Well who am I or any of us to say their opinion is wrong.

I am confident we will survive if Parkie has turned that little corner and lets hope people like Gspot are right about this massive pre-season.
Fatbloke.....I am sorry to disgree with your statement that our players are good enough for a serious promotion push in league one, or even hold their own in the championship. They should be in the top half of league 2 and maybe challenging for play-offs, but can you seriously say that our squad is comparable in quality to those of Charlton, Sheff. United, Wednesday, Huddersfield, MK Don's or even Carlisle? I would swap any one of those six squad's for ours, wouldn't you?
Disagrement is fine Tiny and you make very valid points.

Players like Davies, Jones, Reid, Fagan and Dagnall are (in my opinion) good enough to be pushing on much higer.

Then we have Syers & Williams who (in my opinion) have the potential/ability to also do the same.

Oliver - is a very effective centre half with the right partner.

Hanson - been linked with higher league teams.

Ravenhill - has proven it but getting on a bit

We have also had Moore, Devitt and probably others I cant think of..

All the above is enough to suggest Mr Parkinson has under achieved.

In Parkies defence politics in football are bigger then ever so are his hands tied? (Doesnt mean he has to have a negative approach though)
[quote][p][bold]Tinybantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fatbloke[/bold] wrote: I think the squad as individual players are good enough for a serious promotion push in leaguen 1 or holding their own in the championship. I would find it difficult to point out any individuals that have had an awful season nor that of a fantastic one. If players were sent out to do what they are good at and play to individual strengths, winning would breed confidence and a very very succesful team in this league. I blame 1 man for our awful season but I am hoping he has realised the best form of defence is not to be very very rigid and defensive. Some say he didnt have a pre-season and next year will be the big firework display. Well who am I or any of us to say their opinion is wrong. I am confident we will survive if Parkie has turned that little corner and lets hope people like Gspot are right about this massive pre-season.[/p][/quote]Fatbloke.....I am sorry to disgree with your statement that our players are good enough for a serious promotion push in league one, or even hold their own in the championship. They should be in the top half of league 2 and maybe challenging for play-offs, but can you seriously say that our squad is comparable in quality to those of Charlton, Sheff. United, Wednesday, Huddersfield, MK Don's or even Carlisle? I would swap any one of those six squad's for ours, wouldn't you?[/p][/quote]Disagrement is fine Tiny and you make very valid points. Players like Davies, Jones, Reid, Fagan and Dagnall are (in my opinion) good enough to be pushing on much higer. Then we have Syers & Williams who (in my opinion) have the potential/ability to also do the same. Oliver - is a very effective centre half with the right partner. Hanson - been linked with higher league teams. Ravenhill - has proven it but getting on a bit We have also had Moore, Devitt and probably others I cant think of.. All the above is enough to suggest Mr Parkinson has under achieved. In Parkies defence politics in football are bigger then ever so are his hands tied? (Doesnt mean he has to have a negative approach though) fatbloke

11:11am Fri 30 Mar 12

cookie_brighton says...

what a sad week for Bradford......City fighting for survival, Bulls fighting for existance and now Galloway M.P. for Bradford.
This guy is friends of the muslim leaders, allegedly he met saddam hussain to name just one,....it was obvious he would get the vote of the immigrants....sad day for Bradford.
what a sad week for Bradford......City fighting for survival, Bulls fighting for existance and now Galloway M.P. for Bradford. This guy is friends of the muslim leaders, allegedly he met saddam hussain to name just one,....it was obvious he would get the vote of the immigrants....sad day for Bradford. cookie_brighton

11:55am Fri 30 Mar 12

shipleyctid says...

total joke on all free accounts . the city players should be put on minimum wage till there prove there worth £20 to watch this lot is a joke
total joke on all free accounts . the city players should be put on minimum wage till there prove there worth £20 to watch this lot is a joke shipleyctid

12:17pm Fri 30 Mar 12

Nickloza says...

Dannyp1892 wrote:
Gemzki-Lou wrote:
Embarrassment! It shouldn't be Bradford Bulls threatened with administration! should be these!!!
Are you for real? 2 completely different organisations, in 2 completely different situations, the bulls posts are on another web page. As much as I love The Bulls and City, your comment just seems ridiculous
Agree with you Danny why would anyone from Bradford want anything to happen to either club? He's probably one of those fans who support Bulls and Leeds their's a few about.
[quote][p][bold]Dannyp1892[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gemzki-Lou[/bold] wrote: Embarrassment! It shouldn't be Bradford Bulls threatened with administration! should be these!!![/p][/quote]Are you for real? 2 completely different organisations, in 2 completely different situations, the bulls posts are on another web page. As much as I love The Bulls and City, your comment just seems ridiculous[/p][/quote]Agree with you Danny why would anyone from Bradford want anything to happen to either club? He's probably one of those fans who support Bulls and Leeds their's a few about. Nickloza

12:34pm Fri 30 Mar 12

shaun from richmond says...

fatbloke wrote:
prince35 wrote: @shaun from Richmond. So you feel the club is running along nicely do you????. Over the last 3 years to me massive mistakes have been made and those at the top of this football club should look at there position and ask themselves what a total fiasco this season has been???. The Jackson mess!!!!. The Archie Christie mess!!!!. Parkinsons poor run of form!!!. The whole direction of this club is changed season to season with a chairman who's public relations with supporters is laughable. No those in charge at the top should take responsabillity
Think Shaun is being sarcastic prince!!
OOPS!!
[quote][p][bold]fatbloke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]prince35[/bold] wrote: @shaun from Richmond. So you feel the club is running along nicely do you????. Over the last 3 years to me massive mistakes have been made and those at the top of this football club should look at there position and ask themselves what a total fiasco this season has been???. The Jackson mess!!!!. The Archie Christie mess!!!!. Parkinsons poor run of form!!!. The whole direction of this club is changed season to season with a chairman who's public relations with supporters is laughable. No those in charge at the top should take responsabillity[/p][/quote]Think Shaun is being sarcastic prince!![/p][/quote]OOPS!! shaun from richmond

12:40pm Fri 30 Mar 12

shaun from richmond says...

DONT WORRY EVERYONE!!. I will be at the Plymouth game(Working in Exeter today).......Biggest game of the season so far.....Wouldnt miss it for the world!!.
COME ON CITY!!.
DONT WORRY EVERYONE!!. I will be at the Plymouth game(Working in Exeter today).......Biggest game of the season so far.....Wouldnt miss it for the world!!. COME ON CITY!!. shaun from richmond

1:18pm Fri 30 Mar 12

bouncing bantam says...

Dannyp1892 wrote:
Cityman23 wrote: I think Phil Parkinson was ill advised to make a comment to the press of this sort. Yes, if a person who has committed a 'crime' has served his/her sentence (whether football 'crime' or in the wider world) they SHOULD be allowed to 'move on' and start afresh with a clean 'slate.' However, the problem is..the 'sentence' for those three players (and the Crawley Players too) has NOT been ..FINALISED!! Yes, the 'three' have been given immediate bans of Davies-5/McLoughlin- 3/Oliver 3. But...is that the end of it? Well, most probably..NO! The chances are a further punishment is going to be following...in its slipstream which 'could' be worse for those three but, more worringly for Bradford City itself. As a City fan, I'm hoping that that punishment will be 'moderate', 'measured' and certainly not significant enough to jeopardise the club's existence in League Two or...even the club's 'existence' (which could be put at risk by relegation to the non-leagues!!) 'PP'/ML/JR need to think VERY carefully before making public statements through the media which MAY give the impression (particularly to the FA!!) that they (think the issue is over) do not take the antics of Tuesday night seriously enough!!! I would say a large dose of repentence/contritio n is the 'way to go' (for every possible reason!!) at the moment (whether its felt genuinely or not!!)
Ere Ere... A points deduction would be a final nail in our coffin. Good Post
Don't worry there is no precedent for a points deduction. A hefty fine, part suspended is most likely.

Unfortunately, it also means that there's no moaning the FA about decisions etc in the future.
[quote][p][bold]Dannyp1892[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cityman23[/bold] wrote: I think Phil Parkinson was ill advised to make a comment to the press of this sort. Yes, if a person who has committed a 'crime' has served his/her sentence (whether football 'crime' or in the wider world) they SHOULD be allowed to 'move on' and start afresh with a clean 'slate.' However, the problem is..the 'sentence' for those three players (and the Crawley Players too) has NOT been ..FINALISED!! Yes, the 'three' have been given immediate bans of Davies-5/McLoughlin- 3/Oliver 3. But...is that the end of it? Well, most probably..NO! The chances are a further punishment is going to be following...in its slipstream which 'could' be worse for those three but, more worringly for Bradford City itself. As a City fan, I'm hoping that that punishment will be 'moderate', 'measured' and certainly not significant enough to jeopardise the club's existence in League Two or...even the club's 'existence' (which could be put at risk by relegation to the non-leagues!!) 'PP'/ML/JR need to think VERY carefully before making public statements through the media which MAY give the impression (particularly to the FA!!) that they (think the issue is over) do not take the antics of Tuesday night seriously enough!!! I would say a large dose of repentence/contritio n is the 'way to go' (for every possible reason!!) at the moment (whether its felt genuinely or not!!)[/p][/quote]Ere Ere... A points deduction would be a final nail in our coffin. Good Post[/p][/quote]Don't worry there is no precedent for a points deduction. A hefty fine, part suspended is most likely. Unfortunately, it also means that there's no moaning the FA about decisions etc in the future. bouncing bantam

1:50pm Fri 30 Mar 12

Cityman23 says...

cookie_brighton wrote:
what a sad week for Bradford......City fighting for survival, Bulls fighting for existance and now Galloway M.P. for Bradford.
This guy is friends of the muslim leaders, allegedly he met saddam hussain to name just one,....it was obvious he would get the vote of the immigrants....sad day for Bradford.
George Galloway being elected MP for Bradford West (one constituency) in the city is 'sad' only if you disagree with his political views/don't like the man.

The Bulls/City 'in trouble/difficulties
' is sad for ALL those who have an affection for the city (hopefully incl. Park Avenue fans-but you never know!!.)
[quote][p][bold]cookie_brighton[/bold] wrote: what a sad week for Bradford......City fighting for survival, Bulls fighting for existance and now Galloway M.P. for Bradford. This guy is friends of the muslim leaders, allegedly he met saddam hussain to name just one,....it was obvious he would get the vote of the immigrants....sad day for Bradford.[/p][/quote]George Galloway being elected MP for Bradford West (one constituency) in the city is 'sad' only if you disagree with his political views/don't like the man. The Bulls/City 'in trouble/difficulties ' is sad for ALL those who have an affection for the city (hopefully incl. Park Avenue fans-but you never know!!.) Cityman23

1:59pm Fri 30 Mar 12

KnightMcCall says...

cookie_brighton wrote:
what a sad week for Bradford......City fighting for survival, Bulls fighting for existance and now Galloway M.P. for Bradford. This guy is friends of the muslim leaders, allegedly he met saddam hussain to name just one,....it was obvious he would get the vote of the immigrants....sad day for Bradford.
What a crime eh; being friends with a muslim. I've always thought that you posted ill-thought out tripe and now I have no doubts left at all. Bradford is a city that is built on immigration whether it be Irish, Polish, Lithuanian, Bangladeshi, Pakistani or other. How many of your great grand-parents were born in this country or even your grandparents. Take your bigoted views and go and jump off the end of the pier...and Brighton is supposed to be a place of tolerance.
[quote][p][bold]cookie_brighton[/bold] wrote: what a sad week for Bradford......City fighting for survival, Bulls fighting for existance and now Galloway M.P. for Bradford. This guy is friends of the muslim leaders, allegedly he met saddam hussain to name just one,....it was obvious he would get the vote of the immigrants....sad day for Bradford.[/p][/quote]What a crime eh; being friends with a muslim. I've always thought that you posted ill-thought out tripe and now I have no doubts left at all. Bradford is a city that is built on immigration whether it be Irish, Polish, Lithuanian, Bangladeshi, Pakistani or other. How many of your great grand-parents were born in this country or even your grandparents. Take your bigoted views and go and jump off the end of the pier...and Brighton is supposed to be a place of tolerance. KnightMcCall

2:01pm Fri 30 Mar 12

KnightMcCall says...

shaun from richmond wrote:
DONT WORRY EVERYONE!!. I will be at the Plymouth game(Working in Exeter today).......Biggest game of the season so far.....Wouldnt miss it for the world!!. COME ON CITY!!.
Take your boots with you.
[quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: DONT WORRY EVERYONE!!. I will be at the Plymouth game(Working in Exeter today).......Biggest game of the season so far.....Wouldnt miss it for the world!!. COME ON CITY!!.[/p][/quote]Take your boots with you. KnightMcCall

2:03pm Fri 30 Mar 12

Dannyp1892 says...

KnightMcCall wrote:
cookie_brighton wrote: what a sad week for Bradford......City fighting for survival, Bulls fighting for existance and now Galloway M.P. for Bradford. This guy is friends of the muslim leaders, allegedly he met saddam hussain to name just one,....it was obvious he would get the vote of the immigrants....sad day for Bradford.
What a crime eh; being friends with a muslim. I've always thought that you posted ill-thought out tripe and now I have no doubts left at all. Bradford is a city that is built on immigration whether it be Irish, Polish, Lithuanian, Bangladeshi, Pakistani or other. How many of your great grand-parents were born in this country or even your grandparents. Take your bigoted views and go and jump off the end of the pier...and Brighton is supposed to be a place of tolerance.
(Round of applause for KnightMcCall)

Cookie, what were you thinking posting that?

#slightracistunderto
nes
[quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cookie_brighton[/bold] wrote: what a sad week for Bradford......City fighting for survival, Bulls fighting for existance and now Galloway M.P. for Bradford. This guy is friends of the muslim leaders, allegedly he met saddam hussain to name just one,....it was obvious he would get the vote of the immigrants....sad day for Bradford.[/p][/quote]What a crime eh; being friends with a muslim. I've always thought that you posted ill-thought out tripe and now I have no doubts left at all. Bradford is a city that is built on immigration whether it be Irish, Polish, Lithuanian, Bangladeshi, Pakistani or other. How many of your great grand-parents were born in this country or even your grandparents. Take your bigoted views and go and jump off the end of the pier...and Brighton is supposed to be a place of tolerance.[/p][/quote](Round of applause for KnightMcCall) Cookie, what were you thinking posting that? #slightracistunderto nes Dannyp1892

2:28pm Fri 30 Mar 12

ALEXIMO.56. says...

Dannyp1892 wrote:
KnightMcCall wrote:
cookie_brighton wrote: what a sad week for Bradford......City fighting for survival, Bulls fighting for existance and now Galloway M.P. for Bradford. This guy is friends of the muslim leaders, allegedly he met saddam hussain to name just one,....it was obvious he would get the vote of the immigrants....sad day for Bradford.
What a crime eh; being friends with a muslim. I've always thought that you posted ill-thought out tripe and now I have no doubts left at all. Bradford is a city that is built on immigration whether it be Irish, Polish, Lithuanian, Bangladeshi, Pakistani or other. How many of your great grand-parents were born in this country or even your grandparents. Take your bigoted views and go and jump off the end of the pier...and Brighton is supposed to be a place of tolerance.
(Round of applause for KnightMcCall)

Cookie, what were you thinking posting that?

#slightracistunderto

nes
What the FCUK Has the By-Election got to do with the problems that the Bulls and city have. Who cares who wins the seat. Cookie you should be careful posting stuff like that. I don' want to get involved but my parents came over from Yugoslavia in 1952. I was born here in Bradford. Got to fully agree with you Danny.
[quote][p][bold]Dannyp1892[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cookie_brighton[/bold] wrote: what a sad week for Bradford......City fighting for survival, Bulls fighting for existance and now Galloway M.P. for Bradford. This guy is friends of the muslim leaders, allegedly he met saddam hussain to name just one,....it was obvious he would get the vote of the immigrants....sad day for Bradford.[/p][/quote]What a crime eh; being friends with a muslim. I've always thought that you posted ill-thought out tripe and now I have no doubts left at all. Bradford is a city that is built on immigration whether it be Irish, Polish, Lithuanian, Bangladeshi, Pakistani or other. How many of your great grand-parents were born in this country or even your grandparents. Take your bigoted views and go and jump off the end of the pier...and Brighton is supposed to be a place of tolerance.[/p][/quote](Round of applause for KnightMcCall) Cookie, what were you thinking posting that? #slightracistunderto nes[/p][/quote]What the FCUK Has the By-Election got to do with the problems that the Bulls and city have. Who cares who wins the seat. Cookie you should be careful posting stuff like that. I don' want to get involved but my parents came over from Yugoslavia in 1952. I was born here in Bradford. Got to fully agree with you Danny. ALEXIMO.56.

2:52pm Fri 30 Mar 12

pride of yorkshire says...

WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF IT HA BEEN THE OTHER WAY ROUND AND THE FANS HAD BEEN RIOTING THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN BEEN BANNED FOR LIFE SO WHY NOT KICK THE OVER PAID WASTE OF SPACE PLAYERS OUT OF THE CLUB?AND IT WILL PROBABLEY WILL HAPPEN AGAINST SWINDON IF THE WIN THE TITLE AND SEND US DOWN!!!!
WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF IT HA BEEN THE OTHER WAY ROUND AND THE FANS HAD BEEN RIOTING THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN BEEN BANNED FOR LIFE SO WHY NOT KICK THE OVER PAID WASTE OF SPACE PLAYERS OUT OF THE CLUB?AND IT WILL PROBABLEY WILL HAPPEN AGAINST SWINDON IF THE WIN THE TITLE AND SEND US DOWN!!!! pride of yorkshire

2:53pm Fri 30 Mar 12

pride of yorkshire says...

WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF IT HA BEEN THE OTHER WAY ROUND AND THE FANS HAD BEEN RIOTING THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN BEEN BANNED FOR LIFE SO WHY NOT KICK THE OVER PAID WASTE OF SPACE PLAYERS OUT OF THE CLUB?AND IT WILL PROBABLEY WILL HAPPEN AGAINST SWINDON IF THE WIN THE TITLE AND SEND US DOWN!!!!
WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF IT HA BEEN THE OTHER WAY ROUND AND THE FANS HAD BEEN RIOTING THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN BEEN BANNED FOR LIFE SO WHY NOT KICK THE OVER PAID WASTE OF SPACE PLAYERS OUT OF THE CLUB?AND IT WILL PROBABLEY WILL HAPPEN AGAINST SWINDON IF THE WIN THE TITLE AND SEND US DOWN!!!! pride of yorkshire

3:23pm Fri 30 Mar 12

shaun from richmond says...

KnightMcCall wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote: DONT WORRY EVERYONE!!. I will be at the Plymouth game(Working in Exeter today).......Biggest game of the season so far.....Wouldnt miss it for the world!!. COME ON CITY!!.
Take your boots with you.
And my Boxing Gloves!!
[quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: DONT WORRY EVERYONE!!. I will be at the Plymouth game(Working in Exeter today).......Biggest game of the season so far.....Wouldnt miss it for the world!!. COME ON CITY!!.[/p][/quote]Take your boots with you.[/p][/quote]And my Boxing Gloves!! shaun from richmond

3:31pm Fri 30 Mar 12

shaun from richmond says...

KnightMcCall wrote:
cookie_brighton wrote: what a sad week for Bradford......City fighting for survival, Bulls fighting for existance and now Galloway M.P. for Bradford. This guy is friends of the muslim leaders, allegedly he met saddam hussain to name just one,....it was obvious he would get the vote of the immigrants....sad day for Bradford.
What a crime eh; being friends with a muslim. I've always thought that you posted ill-thought out tripe and now I have no doubts left at all. Bradford is a city that is built on immigration whether it be Irish, Polish, Lithuanian, Bangladeshi, Pakistani or other. How many of your great grand-parents were born in this country or even your grandparents. Take your bigoted views and go and jump off the end of the pier...and Brighton is supposed to be a place of tolerance.
Yep.....Your right on this one Knight!!.........A very ill advised post from cookie!!.
[quote][p][bold]KnightMcCall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cookie_brighton[/bold] wrote: what a sad week for Bradford......City fighting for survival, Bulls fighting for existance and now Galloway M.P. for Bradford. This guy is friends of the muslim leaders, allegedly he met saddam hussain to name just one,....it was obvious he would get the vote of the immigrants....sad day for Bradford.[/p][/quote]What a crime eh; being friends with a muslim. I've always thought that you posted ill-thought out tripe and now I have no doubts left at all. Bradford is a city that is built on immigration whether it be Irish, Polish, Lithuanian, Bangladeshi, Pakistani or other. How many of your great grand-parents were born in this country or even your grandparents. Take your bigoted views and go and jump off the end of the pier...and Brighton is supposed to be a place of tolerance.[/p][/quote]Yep.....Your right on this one Knight!!.........A very ill advised post from cookie!!. shaun from richmond

3:42pm Fri 30 Mar 12

northyorksbantam says...

fatbloke wrote:
Tinybantam wrote:
fatbloke wrote: I think the squad as individual players are good enough for a serious promotion push in leaguen 1 or holding their own in the championship. I would find it difficult to point out any individuals that have had an awful season nor that of a fantastic one. If players were sent out to do what they are good at and play to individual strengths, winning would breed confidence and a very very succesful team in this league. I blame 1 man for our awful season but I am hoping he has realised the best form of defence is not to be very very rigid and defensive. Some say he didnt have a pre-season and next year will be the big firework display. Well who am I or any of us to say their opinion is wrong. I am confident we will survive if Parkie has turned that little corner and lets hope people like Gspot are right about this massive pre-season.
Fatbloke.....I am sorry to disgree with your statement that our players are good enough for a serious promotion push in league one, or even hold their own in the championship. They should be in the top half of league 2 and maybe challenging for play-offs, but can you seriously say that our squad is comparable in quality to those of Charlton, Sheff. United, Wednesday, Huddersfield, MK Don's or even Carlisle? I would swap any one of those six squad's for ours, wouldn't you?
Disagrement is fine Tiny and you make very valid points. Players like Davies, Jones, Reid, Fagan and Dagnall are (in my opinion) good enough to be pushing on much higer. Then we have Syers & Williams who (in my opinion) have the potential/ability to also do the same. Oliver - is a very effective centre half with the right partner. Hanson - been linked with higher league teams. Ravenhill - has proven it but getting on a bit We have also had Moore, Devitt and probably others I cant think of.. All the above is enough to suggest Mr Parkinson has under achieved. In Parkies defence politics in football are bigger then ever so are his hands tied? (Doesnt mean he has to have a negative approach though)
I'm not sure why there would be anyone suggesting a fireworks display for next season (if we stay up) there is nothing to base this on. Ive said it before, but despite PP having nearly a whole season to mould a team we are no further forward and there doesnt seem to be any sort of forward plan in place. Development squads gone,no one of note coming through, We just seem to have been "winging it" (well not on the right) for most of the season with loan signings, players in the squad out the next,tactics, team selections different week by week and now we could pay a heavy price. I can only really put this down to PP, his management in so many areas has been poor. Have his hands being tied? I'm not sure, he seems to have had free reign to bring in a whole cast of players, ML can't be criticised for not giving the backing can he?.

You mention Davies, Jones, Reid, Fagan and Dagnall capable of playing at a higher level, well out of them theres only Jones (who is mostly out of favour) and Reid who will be here next season, as it is at the moment. Of the rest you mention there is only Williams, Ravenhill and Hanson with us. Hanson has been linked with higher teams apparently..I only know of maybe Motherwell. He's got better as the seasons gone on but as a minimum for a CF he needs to be getting 15 goals which hopefully he will do,if he took more chances that came his way he could be on 20+ by now and then there may be some justification with links to higher teams.

I just hope we can stumble through the next few matches and stop up, with yet another re-think for next season.
[quote][p][bold]fatbloke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tinybantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fatbloke[/bold] wrote: I think the squad as individual players are good enough for a serious promotion push in leaguen 1 or holding their own in the championship. I would find it difficult to point out any individuals that have had an awful season nor that of a fantastic one. If players were sent out to do what they are good at and play to individual strengths, winning would breed confidence and a very very succesful team in this league. I blame 1 man for our awful season but I am hoping he has realised the best form of defence is not to be very very rigid and defensive. Some say he didnt have a pre-season and next year will be the big firework display. Well who am I or any of us to say their opinion is wrong. I am confident we will survive if Parkie has turned that little corner and lets hope people like Gspot are right about this massive pre-season.[/p][/quote]Fatbloke.....I am sorry to disgree with your statement that our players are good enough for a serious promotion push in league one, or even hold their own in the championship. They should be in the top half of league 2 and maybe challenging for play-offs, but can you seriously say that our squad is comparable in quality to those of Charlton, Sheff. United, Wednesday, Huddersfield, MK Don's or even Carlisle? I would swap any one of those six squad's for ours, wouldn't you?[/p][/quote]Disagrement is fine Tiny and you make very valid points. Players like Davies, Jones, Reid, Fagan and Dagnall are (in my opinion) good enough to be pushing on much higer. Then we have Syers & Williams who (in my opinion) have the potential/ability to also do the same. Oliver - is a very effective centre half with the right partner. Hanson - been linked with higher league teams. Ravenhill - has proven it but getting on a bit We have also had Moore, Devitt and probably others I cant think of.. All the above is enough to suggest Mr Parkinson has under achieved. In Parkies defence politics in football are bigger then ever so are his hands tied? (Doesnt mean he has to have a negative approach though)[/p][/quote]I'm not sure why there would be anyone suggesting a fireworks display for next season (if we stay up) there is nothing to base this on. Ive said it before, but despite PP having nearly a whole season to mould a team we are no further forward and there doesnt seem to be any sort of forward plan in place. Development squads gone,no one of note coming through, We just seem to have been "winging it" (well not on the right) for most of the season with loan signings, players in the squad out the next,tactics, team selections different week by week and now we could pay a heavy price. I can only really put this down to PP, his management in so many areas has been poor. Have his hands being tied? I'm not sure, he seems to have had free reign to bring in a whole cast of players, ML can't be criticised for not giving the backing can he?. You mention Davies, Jones, Reid, Fagan and Dagnall capable of playing at a higher level, well out of them theres only Jones (who is mostly out of favour) and Reid who will be here next season, as it is at the moment. Of the rest you mention there is only Williams, Ravenhill and Hanson with us. Hanson has been linked with higher teams apparently..I only know of maybe Motherwell. He's got better as the seasons gone on but as a minimum for a CF he needs to be getting 15 goals which hopefully he will do,if he took more chances that came his way he could be on 20+ by now and then there may be some justification with links to higher teams. I just hope we can stumble through the next few matches and stop up, with yet another re-think for next season. northyorksbantam

4:01pm Fri 30 Mar 12

fatbloke says...

@northyorksbantam
When I say his hands have been tied, I do not mean he has not had the backing of the chairmen. I mean after every victory in the last few months there have been strange decisons in relation to team selection. Football is very political these days and I think when the club feel safe/safer (after picking up 3 points) they pick a team which will accumalate the lowest weekly wage bill (avoid appearance fees).

That might also answer your comment re Jones being out of favour.

So I am not criticising Mark Lawn.

You disgard Williams as a player we have capable of playing at a higher level as being 'one of ours' well he is and if he isn't that is either a decision taken by Parkie or a political one, so therefore I feel I can include him in my theory of just how good we should be (or are on paper).
@northyorksbantam When I say his hands have been tied, I do not mean he has not had the backing of the chairmen. I mean after every victory in the last few months there have been strange decisons in relation to team selection. Football is very political these days and I think when the club feel safe/safer (after picking up 3 points) they pick a team which will accumalate the lowest weekly wage bill (avoid appearance fees). That might also answer your comment re Jones being out of favour. So I am not criticising Mark Lawn. You disgard Williams as a player we have capable of playing at a higher level as being 'one of ours' well he is and if he isn't that is either a decision taken by Parkie or a political one, so therefore I feel I can include him in my theory of just how good we should be (or are on paper). fatbloke

4:04pm Fri 30 Mar 12

Onebrianmitchell says...

pride of yorkshire wrote:
WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF IT HA BEEN THE OTHER WAY ROUND AND THE FANS HAD BEEN RIOTING THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN BEEN BANNED FOR LIFE SO WHY NOT KICK THE OVER PAID WASTE OF SPACE PLAYERS OUT OF THE CLUB?AND IT WILL PROBABLEY WILL HAPPEN AGAINST SWINDON IF THE WIN THE TITLE AND SEND US DOWN!!!!
Youve got your caps lock on fella.
[quote][p][bold]pride of yorkshire[/bold] wrote: WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF IT HA BEEN THE OTHER WAY ROUND AND THE FANS HAD BEEN RIOTING THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN BEEN BANNED FOR LIFE SO WHY NOT KICK THE OVER PAID WASTE OF SPACE PLAYERS OUT OF THE CLUB?AND IT WILL PROBABLEY WILL HAPPEN AGAINST SWINDON IF THE WIN THE TITLE AND SEND US DOWN!!!![/p][/quote]Youve got your caps lock on fella. Onebrianmitchell

4:15pm Fri 30 Mar 12

audal says...

Duke. not wanted by City nor the supporters .Branston castigated by the same, come back Williams as posted on here, on and on and etc! now we(you, the scribes ) expect the rejects to don the superman outfits and do a George Galloway, now I really do feel the demise of league status becoming nearer and I cry when looking back from 1957 until 2012.
Duke. not wanted by City nor the supporters .Branston castigated by the same, come back Williams as posted on here, on and on and etc! now we(you, the scribes ) expect the rejects to don the superman outfits and do a George Galloway, now I really do feel the demise of league status becoming nearer and I cry when looking back from 1957 until 2012. audal

4:25pm Fri 30 Mar 12

Dannyp1892 says...

audal wrote:
Duke. not wanted by City nor the supporters .Branston castigated by the same, come back Williams as posted on here, on and on and etc! now we(you, the scribes ) expect the rejects to don the superman outfits and do a George Galloway, now I really do feel the demise of league status becoming nearer and I cry when looking back from 1957 until 2012.
Don't cry buddy, the fat lady is on stage but she ain't singing yet! And as for the 'rejects' as you so lovingly call them, they are a necessity, not a choice, but as mentioned before, we have to support whoever dons the Claret and Amber. With an attitude like that, we're already down...
[quote][p][bold]audal[/bold] wrote: Duke. not wanted by City nor the supporters .Branston castigated by the same, come back Williams as posted on here, on and on and etc! now we(you, the scribes ) expect the rejects to don the superman outfits and do a George Galloway, now I really do feel the demise of league status becoming nearer and I cry when looking back from 1957 until 2012.[/p][/quote]Don't cry buddy, the fat lady is on stage but she ain't singing yet! And as for the 'rejects' as you so lovingly call them, they are a necessity, not a choice, but as mentioned before, we have to support whoever dons the Claret and Amber. With an attitude like that, we're already down... Dannyp1892

4:28pm Fri 30 Mar 12

northyorksbantam says...

Sorry fatbloke my last post wasn't all aimed at yours if it gave that impression, not sure who's on what as far as appearance fees goes so can't comment too much on that...seems a strange way to go about doing things in our perilous position, whether we won the previous game or not. Can't imagine it would go down to well with player concerned either (would he put in the effort if he knows he's going to be dropped next match?)

Wasn't meaning to give the impression I had disgarded Williams as one of ours, but whether he can play at a higher level is open to question for me,he came from non league football so is totally untried at higher levels than what we are at. He does occasionally look very good but other times not so and his attitude comes over a bit wrong sometimes. Hopefully Terry Butcher may be teaching him a few things.

At least at the end of the season the deadwood will be gone and perhaps we can re-sign some of the better ones (Syers etc) if they are in favour with PP of course. I am sure nobody will be signing a contract with BCFC anymore based on appearance fee's if your theory is correct!
Sorry fatbloke my last post wasn't all aimed at yours if it gave that impression, not sure who's on what as far as appearance fees goes so can't comment too much on that...seems a strange way to go about doing things in our perilous position, whether we won the previous game or not. Can't imagine it would go down to well with player concerned either (would he put in the effort if he knows he's going to be dropped next match?) Wasn't meaning to give the impression I had disgarded Williams as one of ours, but whether he can play at a higher level is open to question for me,he came from non league football so is totally untried at higher levels than what we are at. He does occasionally look very good but other times not so and his attitude comes over a bit wrong sometimes. Hopefully Terry Butcher may be teaching him a few things. At least at the end of the season the deadwood will be gone and perhaps we can re-sign some of the better ones (Syers etc) if they are in favour with PP of course. I am sure nobody will be signing a contract with BCFC anymore based on appearance fee's if your theory is correct! northyorksbantam

4:34pm Fri 30 Mar 12

cookie_brighton says...

To all you that are slating me for my last post ...read it again....my reference to Galloway being friends with muslim leaders is ..as I posted ...that he would get the votes of the immigrants...NOTHING racist in my post.....look at yourself....at the way your minds are working.
Knight Mccall.....I know Bradford is made up of immigrants....I was born in St Lukes and I lived in Bradford for the first 27 years of my life.
Dannyp1892......my parents were born in Bradford so were my grandparents.
NO.offence meant to anyone....I apologise if people miss read my post.
At the end of my post I said.....sad day for Bradford ....meaning Galloway being chosen as M.P.
To all you that are slating me for my last post ...read it again....my reference to Galloway being friends with muslim leaders is ..as I posted ...that he would get the votes of the immigrants...NOTHING racist in my post.....look at yourself....at the way your minds are working. Knight Mccall.....I know Bradford is made up of immigrants....I was born in St Lukes and I lived in Bradford for the first 27 years of my life. Dannyp1892......my parents were born in Bradford so were my grandparents. NO.offence meant to anyone....I apologise if people miss read my post. At the end of my post I said.....sad day for Bradford ....meaning Galloway being chosen as M.P. cookie_brighton

4:34pm Fri 30 Mar 12

cookie_brighton says...

To all you that are slating me for my last post ...read it again....my reference to Galloway being friends with muslim leaders is ..as I posted ...that he would get the votes of the immigrants...NOTHING racist in my post.....look at yourself....at the way your minds are working.
Knight Mccall.....I know Bradford is made up of immigrants....I was born in St Lukes and I lived in Bradford for the first 27 years of my life.
Dannyp1892......my parents were born in Bradford so were my grandparents.
NO.offence meant to anyone....I apologise if people miss read my post.
At the end of my post I said.....sad day for Bradford ....meaning Galloway being chosen as M.P.
To all you that are slating me for my last post ...read it again....my reference to Galloway being friends with muslim leaders is ..as I posted ...that he would get the votes of the immigrants...NOTHING racist in my post.....look at yourself....at the way your minds are working. Knight Mccall.....I know Bradford is made up of immigrants....I was born in St Lukes and I lived in Bradford for the first 27 years of my life. Dannyp1892......my parents were born in Bradford so were my grandparents. NO.offence meant to anyone....I apologise if people miss read my post. At the end of my post I said.....sad day for Bradford ....meaning Galloway being chosen as M.P. cookie_brighton

4:39pm Fri 30 Mar 12

cookie_brighton says...

Looking forward to the match tomorrow...I feel we will come away with the 3 points... all the team playing well..good luck tomorrow lads ......ctid
Looking forward to the match tomorrow...I feel we will come away with the 3 points... all the team playing well..good luck tomorrow lads ......ctid cookie_brighton

4:39pm Fri 30 Mar 12

Dannyp1892 says...

cookie_brighton wrote:
To all you that are slating me for my last post ...read it again....my reference to Galloway being friends with muslim leaders is ..as I posted ...that he would get the votes of the immigrants...NOTHING racist in my post.....look at yourself....at the way your minds are working. Knight Mccall.....I know Bradford is made up of immigrants....I was born in St Lukes and I lived in Bradford for the first 27 years of my life. Dannyp1892......my parents were born in Bradford so were my grandparents. NO.offence meant to anyone....I apologise if people miss read my post. At the end of my post I said.....sad day for Bradford ....meaning Galloway being chosen as M.P.
Cookie, I didn't mention your parents, or grandparents, that was another poster. I did mention that I thought your post was a little out of order, but you have put me straight, and that's the end of it for me
[quote][p][bold]cookie_brighton[/bold] wrote: To all you that are slating me for my last post ...read it again....my reference to Galloway being friends with muslim leaders is ..as I posted ...that he would get the votes of the immigrants...NOTHING racist in my post.....look at yourself....at the way your minds are working. Knight Mccall.....I know Bradford is made up of immigrants....I was born in St Lukes and I lived in Bradford for the first 27 years of my life. Dannyp1892......my parents were born in Bradford so were my grandparents. NO.offence meant to anyone....I apologise if people miss read my post. At the end of my post I said.....sad day for Bradford ....meaning Galloway being chosen as M.P.[/p][/quote]Cookie, I didn't mention your parents, or grandparents, that was another poster. I did mention that I thought your post was a little out of order, but you have put me straight, and that's the end of it for me Dannyp1892

4:53pm Fri 30 Mar 12

cookie_brighton says...

Dannyp1892....thank you for your post.....I am glad that we have sorted it....maybe I will have to look at my wording in future.
Dannyp1892....thank you for your post.....I am glad that we have sorted it....maybe I will have to look at my wording in future. cookie_brighton

4:58pm Fri 30 Mar 12

Dannyp1892 says...

cookie_brighton wrote:
Dannyp1892....thank you for your post.....I am glad that we have sorted it....maybe I will have to look at my wording in future.
No probs. Politics aside, will we get the 3 points tomorrow?
[quote][p][bold]cookie_brighton[/bold] wrote: Dannyp1892....thank you for your post.....I am glad that we have sorted it....maybe I will have to look at my wording in future.[/p][/quote]No probs. Politics aside, will we get the 3 points tomorrow? Dannyp1892

5:06pm Fri 30 Mar 12

cookie_brighton says...

I personally feel we will get the 3 points....because of the trouble on tuesday...the players coming in will play well...I can see Dukey keeping a clean sheet (hope im right ) Branston and ramsden will play well......I feel more positive now than I did 2 weeks ago.......onwards and upwards.....ctid
I personally feel we will get the 3 points....because of the trouble on tuesday...the players coming in will play well...I can see Dukey keeping a clean sheet (hope im right ) Branston and ramsden will play well......I feel more positive now than I did 2 weeks ago.......onwards and upwards.....ctid cookie_brighton

5:20pm Fri 30 Mar 12

Dannyp1892 says...

Well, I can't say i'm as positive as you, but i'm trying to be. Branston for me will struggle tomorrow, I've got no problem with Duke taking over in goal though, he's decent enough, will be good to see Rambo back... UP THE BANTAMS!!!
Well, I can't say i'm as positive as you, but i'm trying to be. Branston for me will struggle tomorrow, I've got no problem with Duke taking over in goal though, he's decent enough, will be good to see Rambo back... UP THE BANTAMS!!! Dannyp1892

5:21pm Fri 30 Mar 12

Thimblerigger says...

Andy D'Urso reffing tomorrow - no history with us is there??
Andy D'Urso reffing tomorrow - no history with us is there?? Thimblerigger

5:28pm Fri 30 Mar 12

dannbradfc says...

fatbloke wrote:
@northyorksbantam
When I say his hands have been tied, I do not mean he has not had the backing of the chairmen. I mean after every victory in the last few months there have been strange decisons in relation to team selection. Football is very political these days and I think when the club feel safe/safer (after picking up 3 points) they pick a team which will accumalate the lowest weekly wage bill (avoid appearance fees).

That might also answer your comment re Jones being out of favour.

So I am not criticising Mark Lawn.

You disgard Williams as a player we have capable of playing at a higher level as being 'one of ours' well he is and if he isn't that is either a decision taken by Parkie or a political one, so therefore I feel I can include him in my theory of just how good we should be (or are on paper).
but isn't the directive NOT to play players due to appearance fee's directly a board decision?

Jones is definately something more than just a decision based on his performances surely?
[quote][p][bold]fatbloke[/bold] wrote: @northyorksbantam When I say his hands have been tied, I do not mean he has not had the backing of the chairmen. I mean after every victory in the last few months there have been strange decisons in relation to team selection. Football is very political these days and I think when the club feel safe/safer (after picking up 3 points) they pick a team which will accumalate the lowest weekly wage bill (avoid appearance fees). That might also answer your comment re Jones being out of favour. So I am not criticising Mark Lawn. You disgard Williams as a player we have capable of playing at a higher level as being 'one of ours' well he is and if he isn't that is either a decision taken by Parkie or a political one, so therefore I feel I can include him in my theory of just how good we should be (or are on paper).[/p][/quote]but isn't the directive NOT to play players due to appearance fee's directly a board decision? Jones is definately something more than just a decision based on his performances surely? dannbradfc

5:30pm Fri 30 Mar 12

dannbradfc says...

dannbradfc wrote:
fatbloke wrote:
@northyorksbantam
When I say his hands have been tied, I do not mean he has not had the backing of the chairmen. I mean after every victory in the last few months there have been strange decisons in relation to team selection. Football is very political these days and I think when the club feel safe/safer (after picking up 3 points) they pick a team which will accumalate the lowest weekly wage bill (avoid appearance fees).

That might also answer your comment re Jones being out of favour.

So I am not criticising Mark Lawn.

You disgard Williams as a player we have capable of playing at a higher level as being 'one of ours' well he is and if he isn't that is either a decision taken by Parkie or a political one, so therefore I feel I can include him in my theory of just how good we should be (or are on paper).
but isn't the directive NOT to play players due to appearance fee's directly a board decision?

Jones is definately something more than just a decision based on his performances surely?
add to that the scottish lads....
[quote][p][bold]dannbradfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fatbloke[/bold] wrote: @northyorksbantam When I say his hands have been tied, I do not mean he has not had the backing of the chairmen. I mean after every victory in the last few months there have been strange decisons in relation to team selection. Football is very political these days and I think when the club feel safe/safer (after picking up 3 points) they pick a team which will accumalate the lowest weekly wage bill (avoid appearance fees). That might also answer your comment re Jones being out of favour. So I am not criticising Mark Lawn. You disgard Williams as a player we have capable of playing at a higher level as being 'one of ours' well he is and if he isn't that is either a decision taken by Parkie or a political one, so therefore I feel I can include him in my theory of just how good we should be (or are on paper).[/p][/quote]but isn't the directive NOT to play players due to appearance fee's directly a board decision? Jones is definately something more than just a decision based on his performances surely?[/p][/quote]add to that the scottish lads.... dannbradfc

10:03pm Fri 30 Mar 12

340stopper says...

Dannyp1892 wrote:
Well, I can't say i'm as positive as you, but i'm trying to be. Branston for me will struggle tomorrow, I've got no problem with Duke taking over in goal though, he's decent enough, will be good to see Rambo back... UP THE BANTAMS!!!
Branston played well (and scored with a bullet header ) in the recent game behind closed doors at Leeds recently and although slow to turn he does play with passion.Duke has by all accounts found his form at Northampton and their manager is gutted that he has been recalledby us.
I feel we will do ok tomorrow.
[quote][p][bold]Dannyp1892[/bold] wrote: Well, I can't say i'm as positive as you, but i'm trying to be. Branston for me will struggle tomorrow, I've got no problem with Duke taking over in goal though, he's decent enough, will be good to see Rambo back... UP THE BANTAMS!!![/p][/quote]Branston played well (and scored with a bullet header ) in the recent game behind closed doors at Leeds recently and although slow to turn he does play with passion.Duke has by all accounts found his form at Northampton and their manager is gutted that he has been recalledby us. I feel we will do ok tomorrow. 340stopper

2:21am Sat 31 Mar 12

Bradford1903 says...

I just hope we don't play for a 0-0 today, as it's a tactic that just hasn't worked against the teams in the lower half.

Let's go out for the win, but if we can't manage that, then a point would be a pretty good result considering the week we've had.

It's about time we got that bit of luck and won one of these tight games, as too many have gone against us this season.
I just hope we don't play for a 0-0 today, as it's a tactic that just hasn't worked against the teams in the lower half. Let's go out for the win, but if we can't manage that, then a point would be a pretty good result considering the week we've had. It's about time we got that bit of luck and won one of these tight games, as too many have gone against us this season. Bradford1903

9:01pm Sat 31 Mar 12

eebygum says...

Crawleys bad boys have apologised to the fans and club wheres our apologies? I think some of these players could learn from the down syndrome kid who showed more passion in the half time game and he kissed the badge which sent the Kop wild more passion and we may start winning some games.
Crawleys bad boys have apologised to the fans and club wheres our apologies? I think some of these players could learn from the down syndrome kid who showed more passion in the half time game and he kissed the badge which sent the Kop wild more passion and we may start winning some games. eebygum

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