Marcel Seip ruled out of Bradford City's season

1:35pm Thursday 29th March 2012 in Sport Photograph of the Author By Simon Parker, Bradford City Reporter

Marcel Seip has had an operation on his damaged shouler Marcel Seip has had an operation on his damaged shouler

Defender Marcel Seip will miss the rest of City's season with a shoulder injury.

The Dutchman, whose short-term contract is up in the summer, has needed an operation.

Seip has missed the last three games since stirring up an old injury when he landed painfully on his shoulder during the 1-0 defeat at Aldershot.

The news comes as another defensive blow for Phil Parkinson, who is already without suspended centre halves Luke Oliver and Andrew Davies.

Parkinson said: “We’ll miss Marcel’s experience. But that was half the reason I kept Simon Ramsden back in midweek after we’d had the bad news from the scan.”

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prince35 says...
2:12pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Bad news after bad news at bradford.
Seems there's nothing going for Parky and the squad going into the final 7 games of the season.
Seems guy branston may have a chance to get involved in this relegation battle.
But branston is an experianced pro and last season was in the lge2 team of the season
I really haven't got a clue what back 4 , Parky will play on sat against Plymouth.

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Old Peculiar says...
2:16pm Thu 29 Mar 12

The bookies have us at 6/1 to go down, I'd say that is pretty generous. It's looking more and more likely ; based on the events of the last 48 hours, and looking at our remaining 7 matches, that we will be drawn into a fight for survival.

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Farsley Bantam says...
2:23pm Thu 29 Mar 12

prince35 wrote:
Bad news after bad news at bradford. Seems there's nothing going for Parky and the squad going into the final 7 games of the season. Seems guy branston may have a chance to get involved in this relegation battle. But branston is an experianced pro and last season was in the lge2 team of the season I really haven't got a clue what back 4 , Parky will play on sat against Plymouth.
If your going bring your boots-you might get a game.
Bring a knuckle duster as well though

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fatbloke says...
2:37pm Thu 29 Mar 12

prince35 wrote:
Bad news after bad news at bradford.
Seems there's nothing going for Parky and the squad going into the final 7 games of the season.
Seems guy branston may have a chance to get involved in this relegation battle.
But branston is an experianced pro and last season was in the lge2 team of the season
I really haven't got a clue what back 4 , Parky will play on sat against Plymouth.
Kozluk left back, Bully with Branston and Ramsden right back.

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KnightMcCall says...
2:39pm Thu 29 Mar 12

prince35 wrote:
Bad news after bad news at bradford. Seems there's nothing going for Parky and the squad going into the final 7 games of the season. Seems guy branston may have a chance to get involved in this relegation battle. But branston is an experianced pro and last season was in the lge2 team of the season I really haven't got a clue what back 4 , Parky will play on sat against Plymouth.
Possible Right backs are

Mitchell, Kozluk and Ramsden (can Burns be recalled?)

Possible Left Backs are

Fry

Centre Backs

Branston, Ramsden, Bully

Not sure that Ravenhill hasn't played centre back in the past too.

What's the betting that Reid now misses PLymouth thanks to the birth of his child.

Seige mentality required and as much optimism as you can muster.

The main optimism is that either Hereford have to muster at least 6 points more than us in 7 games or Macc have to muster 5 points more than us (based on goal difference being superior). I would still rather be in our position than theirs at this moment in time.

I was always comfortable that we would pick up enough points to stay away from the bottom. Losing three defenders in two days has taken away a lot of that comfort. 0-0 at Plymouth would be tremendous!!

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Farsley Bantam says...
2:44pm Thu 29 Mar 12

fatbloke wrote:
prince35 wrote: Bad news after bad news at bradford. Seems there's nothing going for Parky and the squad going into the final 7 games of the season. Seems guy branston may have a chance to get involved in this relegation battle. But branston is an experianced pro and last season was in the lge2 team of the season I really haven't got a clue what back 4 , Parky will play on sat against Plymouth.
Kozluk left back, Bully with Branston and Ramsden right back.
In all seriousness I think Branston returning is a good thing. The best game he played for us this season was against Torquay (his old club) when he had something to prove against his old team mates. After PP effectively decided he is no good and shipped him out on loan, this is the perfect opportunity to prove him wrong. Guy should be fired up for this and I'm expecting a good performance from him.

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Rambo says...
2:54pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Uh-oh.... Everythings going wrong at the worst possible time.
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Before Crawley, we were 38 games into the season, and would probably end like last season - just do enough to keep ahead of the chasing pack and guarantee safety with about 3 games to go.
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Now we've got a defensive crisis due to letting Threllfall go, the brawl the other night and the aftermath and now Seip getting injured. Also letting Steve Williams have a 28 day recall and not a 24 hour one.
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We're probably all over-worrying, but our recent March/April collapses in recent years (including getting us relegated) linger in the mind.
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We seem to be a club of firsts in certain aspects. It wouldn't surprise me if this freakish set of occurrences could genuinely help send us down.
It will certainly give a boost to the teams below us.

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Rambo says...
3:00pm Thu 29 Mar 12

And Matt Fry is out of the Plymouth game with a groin injury https://twitter.com/
#!/tannerman774

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gspot01 says...
3:14pm Thu 29 Mar 12

We lose 3 players and a massive panic!!!!
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Duke replaces Jonny Mac (no big problem). Branston & Bully CB's meaning Jones or Ravenhill alongside Syers in the middle.....still a good team in my eyes.
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Most people making it sound like we are gauranteed relagation because some players threw punches.
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CHILLAX

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Farsley Bantam says...
3:20pm Thu 29 Mar 12

gspot01 wrote:
We lose 3 players and a massive panic!!!! . Duke replaces Jonny Mac (no big problem). Branston & Bully CB's meaning Jones or Ravenhill alongside Syers in the middle.....still a good team in my eyes. . Most people making it sound like we are gauranteed relagation because some players threw punches. . CHILLAX
Totally agree.
We are 4 points (effectively 5 with goal difference) and we are still to play two of the teams below us. Its in our hands still and our huge squad should be able to cope with a couple of injuries and suspensions.

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irish bantam says...
3:21pm Thu 29 Mar 12

fatbloke wrote:
prince35 wrote:
Bad news after bad news at bradford.
Seems there's nothing going for Parky and the squad going into the final 7 games of the season.
Seems guy branston may have a chance to get involved in this relegation battle.
But branston is an experianced pro and last season was in the lge2 team of the season
I really haven't got a clue what back 4 , Parky will play on sat against Plymouth.
Kozluk left back, Bully with Branston and Ramsden right back.
Kozluk cant even play right back so god knows what he would be like at left back. At the end of this season i would not renew seip or kozluks contracts 2 of the worse full backs we have had at city imo.
Also lets just hope that our keeper duke comes off his line , as the first goal gillingham scored ( with frys feeble attempt to jump ) and the 2 goals the othernight were all put in at the back door

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Old Peculiar says...
3:21pm Thu 29 Mar 12

gspot01 wrote:
We lose 3 players and a massive panic!!!! . Duke replaces Jonny Mac (no big problem). Branston & Bully CB's meaning Jones or Ravenhill alongside Syers in the middle.....still a good team in my eyes. . Most people making it sound like we are gauranteed relagation because some players threw punches. . CHILLAX
In the past 5 matches,
with a full squad available, we have taken 1 point from 15. We will play the next 7 matches against stronger sides than those last 5, having to utilise players that have been loaned out / regarded as surplus to requirements.
CHILLAX ? At what point will you realise we have a problem ? When we kick off on the last match of the season, against Swindon, who will have already been awarded the L2 title ?

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gspot01 says...
4:03pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Old Peculiar wrote:
gspot01 wrote: We lose 3 players and a massive panic!!!! . Duke replaces Jonny Mac (no big problem). Branston & Bully CB's meaning Jones or Ravenhill alongside Syers in the middle.....still a good team in my eyes. . Most people making it sound like we are gauranteed relagation because some players threw punches. . CHILLAX
In the past 5 matches, with a full squad available, we have taken 1 point from 15. We will play the next 7 matches against stronger sides than those last 5, having to utilise players that have been loaned out / regarded as surplus to requirements. CHILLAX ? At what point will you realise we have a problem ? When we kick off on the last match of the season, against Swindon, who will have already been awarded the L2 title ?
ok let's have a mass panic and throw the towel in.
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I just hope Parky and the players have more belief then the majority of the fans because otherwise WE ARE DOOMED!!!

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KnightMcCall says...
4:09pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Rambo wrote:
And Matt Fry is out of the Plymouth game with a groin injury https://twitter.com/ #!/tannerman774
3-5-2 it is then.

Ramsden, Bully and Branston at the Back.

Ravenhill Holding with Jones and Syers ball winning. Reid left-wing (back) and Mitchell right wing (Back)

Dagnall and Fagan up front.

Hanson, Wells, Flynn and anyone else we can find on the bench!!

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Dave2610 says...
4:12pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Team for tomoz
Duke
Rammers/Kozlok
Fry if fit
Branston & Bully
Reid Flyn Ravenhill Wells
Hanson Dagnall
Subs Fagan Smalley Jones Mitchel + goalie Hanson

If anymore center halfs drop out I would play Jimmy at the back with either Fagan or Smalley up top

Their you go Parkie problem solved

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parader no1 says...
4:23pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Drop Syers altogether ? Brilliant
We are not going down, nobody below us is putting anything like a run together

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Farsley Bantam says...
4:31pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Dave2610 wrote:
Team for tomoz Duke Rammers/Kozlok Fry if fit Branston & Bully Reid Flyn Ravenhill Wells Hanson Dagnall Subs Fagan Smalley Jones Mitchel + goalie Hanson If anymore center halfs drop out I would play Jimmy at the back with either Fagan or Smalley up top Their you go Parkie problem solved
He'll be chuffed with that load of tosh

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Dave2610 says...
4:32pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Oh forgot Syers!!!!!!!!!

Syers instead of Flynn

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Dave2610 says...
4:51pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Why is that a load of tosh!!!

Thats all we have got left stupid t***

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KnightMcCall says...
4:56pm Thu 29 Mar 12

parader no1 wrote:
Drop Syers altogether ? Brilliant We are not going down, nobody below us is putting anything like a run together
Is that because there aren't many teams that are actually below us....

I believe you are right but you have to admit; the potential back four for Saturday leaves you feeling a little nervous!

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gspot01 says...
5:00pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Dave2610 wrote:
Why is that a load of tosh!!! Thats all we have got left stupid t***
Just play Dagnell and Fagan up top and we'll rip teams to bits.....we are a fair better team with Fagan up front rather then out wide which he self admits is far from his bets position. 2 players who actually have a footballing brain rather then a 50p head.

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Dave2610 says...
5:08pm Thu 29 Mar 12

So you will drop the leading scorer then !! thats a good idea
what about all the defensive headers Hanson brings to the team!
Not the sulky Fagan !!!

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fatbloke says...
5:12pm Thu 29 Mar 12

I think he wil start, Fagan, Dagnall, Syers, Flynn,Jones, Ravenhill, Kozluk, Bully, Branston, Ramsden and Duke..

I can read his mind....

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Dave2610 says...
5:37pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Well if he (Parkie) leaves out Hanson the top scorer I can see him putting another nail in his coffin!!

Both Fagan and Dagnall have not lit any fires for me!
And Fagan looked lost on Tuesday very poor for an ex prem player!!

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KnightMcCall says...
5:59pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Dave2610 wrote:
Well if he (Parkie) leaves out Hanson the top scorer I can see him putting another nail in his coffin!! Both Fagan and Dagnall have not lit any fires for me! And Fagan looked lost on Tuesday very poor for an ex prem player!!
Fagan and Dagnall would be my preferred front two. Two football brains who can cause problems for any defenders. Dagnall bought several fouls on Tuesday and took his chance well. If Hanson and Wells are on the bench then there is already a plan B. Just my opinion.

I think Fagan generally does well on the right of midfield but doesn't have sufficient pace to create enough danger. He does wind up opponents though.

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KnightMcCall says...
6:20pm Thu 29 Mar 12

fatbloke wrote:
I think he wil start, Fagan, Dagnall, Syers, Flynn,Jones, Ravenhill, Kozluk, Bully, Branston, Ramsden and Duke.. I can read his mind....
Someone been watching training?

Why isn't Reid in that team?

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Danstarr69 says...
6:38pm Thu 29 Mar 12

I think all the above teams are just rubbish. Fagan and Flynn wouldn't get into my team unless there was an injury to another player.

My team.

Duke,
Mitchell,Bullock,Bra
nston,Ramsden,
Rowe,Jones,Syers,Rei
d,
Hanson,Wells.

Subs.

Annerson,Dagnall,Rav
enhill,Fagan,Smalley
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If Reid's wife is in labour then I'd put Syers on the wing in a 3 man midfield,with Daggers going behind the front 2 (like he's done in the 2nd halfs for the last 2 games,and played better)


If Ravo is still injured I'd put Atkinson on the bench.

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Victor Clayton says...
7:18pm Thu 29 Mar 12

KnightMcCall wrote:
Dave2610 wrote: Well if he (Parkie) leaves out Hanson the top scorer I can see him putting another nail in his coffin!! Both Fagan and Dagnall have not lit any fires for me! And Fagan looked lost on Tuesday very poor for an ex prem player!!
Fagan and Dagnall would be my preferred front two. Two football brains who can cause problems for any defenders. Dagnall bought several fouls on Tuesday and took his chance well. If Hanson and Wells are on the bench then there is already a plan B. Just my opinion. I think Fagan generally does well on the right of midfield but doesn't have sufficient pace to create enough danger. He does wind up opponents though.
Hanson just hasn't got the ball control we need. Dagnall, Fagan, Wells and Smalley should all be in fron of him in team selection

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fatbloke says...
7:35pm Thu 29 Mar 12

KnightMcCall wrote:
fatbloke wrote:
I think he wil start, Fagan, Dagnall, Syers, Flynn,Jones, Ravenhill, Kozluk, Bully, Branston, Ramsden and Duke.. I can read his mind....
Someone been watching training?

Why isn't Reid in that team?
I am guessing they have to plan as if Reid is not going to be there.

However I am sure if he is available he will start. It will better then having Flynn left wing lol...

If Reid is not going to be there then surely we should pick the formation to suit the players avaialable and not the other way round??

With no wingers and Bully in the back 4 why not plan to play narrow (it will be anyhow) 433 (with 3 strikers).

Flynn, Ravenhill and Jones and up top Fagan and Dagnall off Hanson or Smalley..

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Pablo says...
7:51pm Thu 29 Mar 12

We can all pick a team. Sadly, it's now going to be a much weakened side. Given that PP's strongest selections have mustered just 5 points out of the last 24, it really is backs to the wall.

I recall Tommy Wright being cold shouldered all season by Chris Kamara. Kamara recalled him for the last two games and Wright was such an inspiration, he saved us from relegation. I wonder whether Branston could be a similar catalyst. He'd relish the opportunity.

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dannbradfc says...
7:57pm Thu 29 Mar 12

KnightMcCall wrote:
Rambo wrote:
And Matt Fry is out of the Plymouth game with a groin injury https://twitter.com/ #!/tannerman774
3-5-2 it is then.

Ramsden, Bully and Branston at the Back.

Ravenhill Holding with Jones and Syers ball winning. Reid left-wing (back) and Mitchell right wing (Back)

Dagnall and Fagan up front.

Hanson, Wells, Flynn and anyone else we can find on the bench!!
he'll play Flynn in front of Jones.
3 at the back is could be the way to go but i think it will be 451 and for once we have no choice but to pack the midfield.

Indeed a draw is a very good result so for once Parky should be in his element ;-).

If he goes with 3 at back it needs more mobility as Branston and Bully are simply too slow.

Mitchell could operate as a wing back with jones (if ravenhill is injured), Syers and flynn in the middle. We have no natural left foot player to play left back but i gues Reid could be a makeshift wing back as he has played there i.e. very deep pretty much all season.

He may even use Syers at right back if he goes for a 4 cos he clearly doesn't want Mitchell.

It maybe Fagan on his own up front.

What ever we do its not ideal and all very sad thats its come to this in many ways.....

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fatbloke says...
9:29pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Flynn and Jones if Reid isn't there Dann

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gspot01 says...
9:58pm Thu 29 Mar 12

Dave2610 wrote:
So you will drop the leading scorer then !! thats a good idea
what about all the defensive headers Hanson brings to the team!
Not the sulky Fagan !!!
I wouldn't play a striker with defensive duties in mind!!
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Fagan and dagnell have far better ball control then hanson - although i admit he's be a good player to come from the bench but then again wells' pace causes more problems late on then hanson physical presence would - at this level CB's dont like playing against pace.
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Fagan was admittedly poor last couple of games but put him top and we're a different team.

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fatbloke says...
10:47pm Thu 29 Mar 12

We all have varying opinions on the starting 11....The above mentioned by me is not necessarily mine but one I think he will start with ;-)

Cant be bothered looking into it but would be interested in the 11 (in the main) who took Parkie to his manager of the month award...

I am pretty sure from memory Rambo, Seip, Davies and Oliver were the back 4...

Have a look into Waynus, cheers :-)!!

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