Hull FC 46 Bradford Bulls 6

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Hull FC 46 Bradford Bulls 6

Jamie Langley was carried off on a stretcher as the Bulls were subjected to a thumping defeat in their final pre-season friendly at Hull FC.

He was knocked out cold in the fourth minute following a heavy clash of heads with former Bulls forward Lee Radford, who was playing in his own testimonial game.

Langley lay on the turf for around five minutes before Mick Potter’s men, who trailed after just two minutes through Kirk Yeaman’s try, hit back through Jason Crookes’ interception score.

Yet that was as good as it got for the Bulls as they went on to concede two more tries before half-time and a further six in the second half.

It was a chastening debut for former Crusaders duo Elliot Kear and Jarrod Sammut as Potter’s side struggled badly to stem the black and white tide.

Bradford were guilty of handling errors throughout and the defensive weaknesses which undermined them so often last season resurfaced again - with the Super League opener against Catalan Dragons now just a week away.

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5:24pm Sun 29 Jan 12

Craig says...

Been desperate for this thread to open since I got back in the car. I made a comment on the Donaldson thread that we were getting carried away with having beaten Dewsbury and that today would be much more of an acid test of where we are going into the season. I was shot down by someone called MDN - I'd love your thoughts after today - we were absolutely shocking.

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Lets get the usual refrains out the way - it's pre-season, a lot of the players were having their first hit-out, we need time to gel - blah, blah, blah.

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We were and seem to me to remain completely and utterly inept in dealing with any team that can actually stretch the play to the fringes, more than that, we are weak in both body and mind and have absolutely no sense of how to fight fire with fire, how to match up physically against opponents who, even in a friendly, are so much more determined to win the collision than we are.

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Unless we address these issues and actually start standing up to our opponents, we are in for another very long year because, frankly, we don't look any different to the team that so often capitulated in exactly this way last year and the year before and so on and so on.

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Oh well, only another hour to stew on it in the car and get told what a bad fan I am because I state what is shockingly apparent from what I've seen this pre-season and what is becoming the norm for a once proud club. Any chance of getting a Forshaw or a Naylor into the coaching set up to give these soft pany-a**ed players we have today what it takes to play hard and take the game and the fight to the opponent - doubt it, we are a shocking shadow of our former selves right across the board.
Been desperate for this thread to open since I got back in the car. I made a comment on the Donaldson thread that we were getting carried away with having beaten Dewsbury and that today would be much more of an acid test of where we are going into the season. I was shot down by someone called MDN - I'd love your thoughts after today - we were absolutely shocking. * Lets get the usual refrains out the way - it's pre-season, a lot of the players were having their first hit-out, we need time to gel - blah, blah, blah. * We were and seem to me to remain completely and utterly inept in dealing with any team that can actually stretch the play to the fringes, more than that, we are weak in both body and mind and have absolutely no sense of how to fight fire with fire, how to match up physically against opponents who, even in a friendly, are so much more determined to win the collision than we are. * Unless we address these issues and actually start standing up to our opponents, we are in for another very long year because, frankly, we don't look any different to the team that so often capitulated in exactly this way last year and the year before and so on and so on. * Oh well, only another hour to stew on it in the car and get told what a bad fan I am because I state what is shockingly apparent from what I've seen this pre-season and what is becoming the norm for a once proud club. Any chance of getting a Forshaw or a Naylor into the coaching set up to give these soft pany-a**ed players we have today what it takes to play hard and take the game and the fight to the opponent - doubt it, we are a shocking shadow of our former selves right across the board. Craig
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5:26pm Sun 29 Jan 12

bullslad17 says...

Hopefully Langley will be OK and will make the first game. We've already got Whitehead (suspended), Elima, Manuokafoa and Olbison unavailable.
We'll need Langley in the side.
Hopefully Langley will be OK and will make the first game. We've already got Whitehead (suspended), Elima, Manuokafoa and Olbison unavailable. We'll need Langley in the side. bullslad17
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5:35pm Sun 29 Jan 12

barbarian mike says...

Know its only a friendly but a week before the start of the season, this result does not bode well, and no matter what, confidence will have surely been affected by this blatant battering!
Know its only a friendly but a week before the start of the season, this result does not bode well, and no matter what, confidence will have surely been affected by this blatant battering! barbarian mike
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5:35pm Sun 29 Jan 12

Bullbreath says...

Couldn't make the game today but what an earth went wrong?
We got humiliated. Any suggestions of where we can improve as this will be the team of we get hit by injuries again
Couldn't make the game today but what an earth went wrong? We got humiliated. Any suggestions of where we can improve as this will be the team of we get hit by injuries again Bullbreath
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5:41pm Sun 29 Jan 12

bullybullman says...

Oh dear what on earth went wrong Craig is correct in his statment that Hull will be an acid test it can be no more than an indicator of where we are at ! Potter needs to fix it fast we must get off to a flying start next week.
Oh dear what on earth went wrong Craig is correct in his statment that Hull will be an acid test it can be no more than an indicator of where we are at ! Potter needs to fix it fast we must get off to a flying start next week. bullybullman
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5:42pm Sun 29 Jan 12

bullslad17 says...

maybe the team were shocked by Langley's injury??
Anyway the friendly matches are only to make the team gel.
We'll be at better strength against Catalans as Koppy, Lulia and Le'estrange should be in the team.
maybe the team were shocked by Langley's injury?? Anyway the friendly matches are only to make the team gel. We'll be at better strength against Catalans as Koppy, Lulia and Le'estrange should be in the team. bullslad17
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5:42pm Sun 29 Jan 12

Craig says...

We could improve by manning up physically, showing more urgency and desire to defend the line, getting some ba**s, you know all the things that have been missing from the club for years.

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To talk more specifically, we still look completely unable to play to any kind of recognisable game plan, we ask very few questions on attack when the opposition has even the slightest idea of how to defend and disrupt our playmakers and, if we have the injuries we currently have or could get, we will be stuffed as just below the surface of the six or seven half decent players we have is a core of unashamed mediocrity and, in some case, players that should be nowhere near a supposed big club like Bradford.

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Soft, shocking, weak; that's what I took away from today.
We could improve by manning up physically, showing more urgency and desire to defend the line, getting some ba**s, you know all the things that have been missing from the club for years. * To talk more specifically, we still look completely unable to play to any kind of recognisable game plan, we ask very few questions on attack when the opposition has even the slightest idea of how to defend and disrupt our playmakers and, if we have the injuries we currently have or could get, we will be stuffed as just below the surface of the six or seven half decent players we have is a core of unashamed mediocrity and, in some case, players that should be nowhere near a supposed big club like Bradford. * Soft, shocking, weak; that's what I took away from today. Craig
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5:46pm Sun 29 Jan 12

Melbull says...

oh dear

I went full of optimism and was sadly disappointed. Defensively a nightmare especially the left wing. If defence wins games we have a long way to go. I don't think we had more than two sets in their 25yd box. Lets hope for better things
oh dear I went full of optimism and was sadly disappointed. Defensively a nightmare especially the left wing. If defence wins games we have a long way to go. I don't think we had more than two sets in their 25yd box. Lets hope for better things Melbull
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6:08pm Sun 29 Jan 12

BlackpoolBull says...

Craig wrote:
Been desperate for this thread to open since I got back in the car. I made a comment on the Donaldson thread that we were getting carried away with having beaten Dewsbury and that today would be much more of an acid test of where we are going into the season. I was shot down by someone called MDN - I'd love your thoughts after today - we were absolutely shocking.

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Lets get the usual refrains out the way - it's pre-season, a lot of the players were having their first hit-out, we need time to gel - blah, blah, blah.

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We were and seem to me to remain completely and utterly inept in dealing with any team that can actually stretch the play to the fringes, more than that, we are weak in both body and mind and have absolutely no sense of how to fight fire with fire, how to match up physically against opponents who, even in a friendly, are so much more determined to win the collision than we are.

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Unless we address these issues and actually start standing up to our opponents, we are in for another very long year because, frankly, we don't look any different to the team that so often capitulated in exactly this way last year and the year before and so on and so on.

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Oh well, only another hour to stew on it in the car and get told what a bad fan I am because I state what is shockingly apparent from what I've seen this pre-season and what is becoming the norm for a once proud club. Any chance of getting a Forshaw or a Naylor into the coaching set up to give these soft pany-a**ed players we have today what it takes to play hard and take the game and the fight to the opponent - doubt it, we are a shocking shadow of our former selves right across the board.
Normally I'm a glass half full kind of guy, but you've hit the bail squarely on the head sir.

After Radford took Langers head off, it looked as though everyone out there was afraid of getting hit.

Clearly we have a lot of work to do on our defence. Again.

To top itall off I'm stuck in traffic too.

Thank god I've got work tomorrow(!)

COYB!!!
[quote][p][bold]Craig[/bold] wrote: Been desperate for this thread to open since I got back in the car. I made a comment on the Donaldson thread that we were getting carried away with having beaten Dewsbury and that today would be much more of an acid test of where we are going into the season. I was shot down by someone called MDN - I'd love your thoughts after today - we were absolutely shocking. * Lets get the usual refrains out the way - it's pre-season, a lot of the players were having their first hit-out, we need time to gel - blah, blah, blah. * We were and seem to me to remain completely and utterly inept in dealing with any team that can actually stretch the play to the fringes, more than that, we are weak in both body and mind and have absolutely no sense of how to fight fire with fire, how to match up physically against opponents who, even in a friendly, are so much more determined to win the collision than we are. * Unless we address these issues and actually start standing up to our opponents, we are in for another very long year because, frankly, we don't look any different to the team that so often capitulated in exactly this way last year and the year before and so on and so on. * Oh well, only another hour to stew on it in the car and get told what a bad fan I am because I state what is shockingly apparent from what I've seen this pre-season and what is becoming the norm for a once proud club. Any chance of getting a Forshaw or a Naylor into the coaching set up to give these soft pany-a**ed players we have today what it takes to play hard and take the game and the fight to the opponent - doubt it, we are a shocking shadow of our former selves right across the board.[/p][/quote]Normally I'm a glass half full kind of guy, but you've hit the bail squarely on the head sir. After Radford took Langers head off, it looked as though everyone out there was afraid of getting hit. Clearly we have a lot of work to do on our defence. Again. To top itall off I'm stuck in traffic too. Thank god I've got work tomorrow(!) COYB!!! BlackpoolBull
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6:36pm Sun 29 Jan 12

kitman says...

I know it was only a preseason friendly and the result is not important. But in the coming months the Hull FC fixtures are games the Bulls must be looking at to win if we are to in the top eight .Much like the game against the Catalans this sunday, losing is not a option COYB!!
I know it was only a preseason friendly and the result is not important. But in the coming months the Hull FC fixtures are games the Bulls must be looking at to win if we are to in the top eight .Much like the game against the Catalans this sunday, losing is not a option COYB!! kitman
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6:52pm Sun 29 Jan 12

Pablo says...

Is anybody surprised? This my fellow posters is what you get when you recruit journeymen.

Expect a long, hard, fruitless season.
Is anybody surprised? This my fellow posters is what you get when you recruit journeymen. Expect a long, hard, fruitless season. Pablo
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7:05pm Sun 29 Jan 12

bullybullman says...

Look on the bright side go to www.superleague.co.u
k were top of the league !
Look on the bright side go to www.superleague.co.u k were top of the league ! bullybullman
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7:15pm Sun 29 Jan 12

TodBull says...

Craig is spot on with his summary.
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Far too much one out football, no sign of moving it out to the wings until about 30 minutes had past.
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Even on the few occasions we broke the line, the team just looked to get over excited and either dropped the ball, passed to the opposition or missed a kick. Just not good enough if we have any hope of the top 8.
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£20 in diesel, a fiver to park and then admission, best part of £50 and for what.!!!
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Rubbish, pure rubbish.
Craig is spot on with his summary. . Far too much one out football, no sign of moving it out to the wings until about 30 minutes had past. . Even on the few occasions we broke the line, the team just looked to get over excited and either dropped the ball, passed to the opposition or missed a kick. Just not good enough if we have any hope of the top 8. . £20 in diesel, a fiver to park and then admission, best part of £50 and for what.!!! . Rubbish, pure rubbish. TodBull
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7:16pm Sun 29 Jan 12

murphyslaw says...

I'm gutted with the result but can't help feeling a little "I told you so".
We have signed players from the bottom club last term and other quite average Aussies so what are we to expect. I must say I smile at the beratement I got for suggesting this a couple of weeks back. People can try and talk up these players all they like but it won't make them anything other than the players they are. While Warrington are sticking 34 points up South Sydney in beating them in Aus, we are swanning around Castleford Dewsbury etc., Lets face it we are still a long way off the pace. My biggest laugh was to see our T&A reporter refering to Keighley Cougars as "star studded". Talk about losing the plot.
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So where from here? I for one think the ground arrangements this week could be the start of a new era. I expect MPotter to be shown the door and a new structure put in place. This means we can't expect any real improvement for a year or two at least. The only saving grace is that Potter signed most of his tin pots on very short contracts and that a new regime will be able to clear out yet again and re build. Now for the flack, I've got my tin hat on.
I'm gutted with the result but can't help feeling a little "I told you so". We have signed players from the bottom club last term and other quite average Aussies so what are we to expect. I must say I smile at the beratement I got for suggesting this a couple of weeks back. People can try and talk up these players all they like but it won't make them anything other than the players they are. While Warrington are sticking 34 points up South Sydney in beating them in Aus, we are swanning around Castleford Dewsbury etc., Lets face it we are still a long way off the pace. My biggest laugh was to see our T&A reporter refering to Keighley Cougars as "star studded". Talk about losing the plot. . So where from here? I for one think the ground arrangements this week could be the start of a new era. I expect MPotter to be shown the door and a new structure put in place. This means we can't expect any real improvement for a year or two at least. The only saving grace is that Potter signed most of his tin pots on very short contracts and that a new regime will be able to clear out yet again and re build. Now for the flack, I've got my tin hat on. murphyslaw
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7:17pm Sun 29 Jan 12

cj says...

couldn't pass a ball to save their lives, couldn't tackle and when they did have the ball they couldn't keep hold of it.
the only comfort i can take from this is that at least 3 of their tries came from our mistakes.
shocking performance, come back macnamara all is forgiven!
couldn't pass a ball to save their lives, couldn't tackle and when they did have the ball they couldn't keep hold of it. the only comfort i can take from this is that at least 3 of their tries came from our mistakes. shocking performance, come back macnamara all is forgiven! cj
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7:20pm Sun 29 Jan 12

otleybull says...

Langley is ok, just needed a few stitches
Langley is ok, just needed a few stitches otleybull
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7:33pm Sun 29 Jan 12

RL Ron says...

Didn't go but I am worried. Friendly or not, this is a worrying sign.

Hopefully, we will be exposed as doom merchants in a few weeks.......
Didn't go but I am worried. Friendly or not, this is a worrying sign. Hopefully, we will be exposed as doom merchants in a few weeks....... RL Ron
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7:50pm Sun 29 Jan 12

Pablo says...

murphyslaw wrote:
I'm gutted with the result but can't help feeling a little "I told you so".
We have signed players from the bottom club last term and other quite average Aussies so what are we to expect. I must say I smile at the beratement I got for suggesting this a couple of weeks back. People can try and talk up these players all they like but it won't make them anything other than the players they are. While Warrington are sticking 34 points up South Sydney in beating them in Aus, we are swanning around Castleford Dewsbury etc., Lets face it we are still a long way off the pace. My biggest laugh was to see our T&A reporter refering to Keighley Cougars as "star studded". Talk about losing the plot.
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So where from here? I for one think the ground arrangements this week could be the start of a new era. I expect MPotter to be shown the door and a new structure put in place. This means we can't expect any real improvement for a year or two at least. The only saving grace is that Potter signed most of his tin pots on very short contracts and that a new regime will be able to clear out yet again and re build. Now for the flack, I've got my tin hat on.
Spot on, nobody can argue with your post.

Throw away the tin hat.
[quote][p][bold]murphyslaw[/bold] wrote: I'm gutted with the result but can't help feeling a little "I told you so". We have signed players from the bottom club last term and other quite average Aussies so what are we to expect. I must say I smile at the beratement I got for suggesting this a couple of weeks back. People can try and talk up these players all they like but it won't make them anything other than the players they are. While Warrington are sticking 34 points up South Sydney in beating them in Aus, we are swanning around Castleford Dewsbury etc., Lets face it we are still a long way off the pace. My biggest laugh was to see our T&A reporter refering to Keighley Cougars as "star studded". Talk about losing the plot. . So where from here? I for one think the ground arrangements this week could be the start of a new era. I expect MPotter to be shown the door and a new structure put in place. This means we can't expect any real improvement for a year or two at least. The only saving grace is that Potter signed most of his tin pots on very short contracts and that a new regime will be able to clear out yet again and re build. Now for the flack, I've got my tin hat on.[/p][/quote]Spot on, nobody can argue with your post. Throw away the tin hat. Pablo
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7:50pm Sun 29 Jan 12

bank top bantam says...

bulls are **** and will be lucky to finish in bottom two,get rid of potter and his bunch of misfits or end of rugby in bradford unless RFL some how helps them out AGAIN
bulls are **** and will be lucky to finish in bottom two,get rid of potter and his bunch of misfits or end of rugby in bradford unless RFL some how helps them out AGAIN bank top bantam
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8:32pm Sun 29 Jan 12

THEMANOFSTEEL says...

All I ask for this season is a play off spot and a season where we don't get hammered 1st sl test in preseason and we get hammered what do we think. I am now scared of what's to come!!!!
All I ask for this season is a play off spot and a season where we don't get hammered 1st sl test in preseason and we get hammered what do we think. I am now scared of what's to come!!!! THEMANOFSTEEL
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8:52pm Sun 29 Jan 12

mumby1 says...

Oh dear dare i say here we go again! Tin hat at the ready:-)
Oh dear dare i say here we go again! Tin hat at the ready:-) mumby1
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8:52pm Sun 29 Jan 12

kennyr13 says...

There will always be people on these sites who knock the people who are negative towards the Bulls, i personally don't' have a problem with them giving their honest opinions, i can only see change in a positive sense. I said 7 weeks ago 10 position is more a realistic finish. A new season brings optimism? I don't think Potter has a clue. How's that for optimism!! We have signed players who don't know how to tackle, surely the most basic skill needed. Sammut, Walker, Gale, Kear. Have we re-signed Worrincy as defensive coach? We should go cap in hand to PETER FOX because no matter how the game changes you still need to know how to tackle. What is Potter's game plan? Also Taxi for platt!! oops! make that a mini bus!! Ok, so most of this is a light hearted jibe, i hope we fair better than i realistically think we will.
There will always be people on these sites who knock the people who are negative towards the Bulls, i personally don't' have a problem with them giving their honest opinions, i can only see change in a positive sense. I said 7 weeks ago 10 position is more a realistic finish. A new season brings optimism? I don't think Potter has a clue. How's that for optimism!! We have signed players who don't know how to tackle, surely the most basic skill needed. Sammut, Walker, Gale, Kear. Have we re-signed Worrincy as defensive coach? We should go cap in hand to PETER FOX because no matter how the game changes you still need to know how to tackle. What is Potter's game plan? Also Taxi for platt!! oops! make that a mini bus!! Ok, so most of this is a light hearted jibe, i hope we fair better than i realistically think we will. kennyr13
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8:55pm Sun 29 Jan 12

Dore-Bull says...

Although only a friendly, this is so worrying. What a gulf there is in aggression, determination and commitment. Don't want to talk us down or knock the side, but. Top 3 Mr Hood?
Although only a friendly, this is so worrying. What a gulf there is in aggression, determination and commitment. Don't want to talk us down or knock the side, but. Top 3 Mr Hood? Dore-Bull
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9:24pm Sun 29 Jan 12

the-insider says...

A clueless board of directors running a clueless management structure, running clueless coaches, running clueless players, clueless scouts, clueless junior coaches. An absolute joke, a club having to under lease what they already leased, to bail themselves out of the tish, look at the accounts, and the companies house files, you're having the wolly bully pulled over your eyes, oh and sack Medley he is a clown of the highest coco pop order. Pity poor Bradford
A clueless board of directors running a clueless management structure, running clueless coaches, running clueless players, clueless scouts, clueless junior coaches. An absolute joke, a club having to under lease what they already leased, to bail themselves out of the tish, look at the accounts, and the companies house files, you're having the wolly bully pulled over your eyes, oh and sack Medley he is a clown of the highest coco pop order. Pity poor Bradford the-insider
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10:07pm Sun 29 Jan 12

the anglian says...

OMG! Here we go again. We're all doomed! The doomed squad are back again. Most of you are the same people that condemned Phil Joseph to the has-been tip. YOU WERE WRONG.

Does this 'friendly' mean we have had it before the first league match? I don't think so. Come on you lot come into the real world and fill up your half empty glasses. Before you ask, no, I didn't go to the match - so what - I can't get to league matches either but I won't condemn the team I support before a serious ball has been passed.
Think yourself lucky that you don't support City! Then you really would have something to moan about.
OMG! Here we go again. We're all doomed! The doomed squad are back again. Most of you are the same people that condemned Phil Joseph to the has-been tip. YOU WERE WRONG. Does this 'friendly' mean we have had it before the first league match? I don't think so. Come on you lot come into the real world and fill up your half empty glasses. Before you ask, no, I didn't go to the match - so what - I can't get to league matches either but I won't condemn the team I support before a serious ball has been passed. Think yourself lucky that you don't support City! Then you really would have something to moan about. the anglian
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10:25pm Sun 29 Jan 12

gordon ramsay says...

the intelligent observer who puts the rose tinted glasses to one side already knows that this year will be one of struggle.

we go through repeat cycles of utter naivety year on year... its becoming comical. we end the year dissapointed. then we release a few dead beats... then we sign a few journey men who nobody else wants... then we beat dewsbury and all the idiots on here start wetting their pants with excitement.... then even the stubbornly niave realise that there are at least 9 or 10 squads stronger than ours.

yes its only a trial match but its 7 days before the season begins. other than talking to the T&A about how things are going to be different what the hell have these guys been doing??? hull are not a top 6 side and they walked through us today.

lets hope this is the reality check needed all round.

come on bulls. we need to man up. i would love to be proved wrong but we go through the same cycle year on year.......
the intelligent observer who puts the rose tinted glasses to one side already knows that this year will be one of struggle. we go through repeat cycles of utter naivety year on year... its becoming comical. we end the year dissapointed. then we release a few dead beats... then we sign a few journey men who nobody else wants... then we beat dewsbury and all the idiots on here start wetting their pants with excitement.... then even the stubbornly niave realise that there are at least 9 or 10 squads stronger than ours. yes its only a trial match but its 7 days before the season begins. other than talking to the T&A about how things are going to be different what the hell have these guys been doing??? hull are not a top 6 side and they walked through us today. lets hope this is the reality check needed all round. come on bulls. we need to man up. i would love to be proved wrong but we go through the same cycle year on year....... gordon ramsay
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10:40pm Sun 29 Jan 12

mdn says...

FFS get a grip. look at the team sheet for the game. Hull were full strength bar lynch and heremea. we had 7 guaranteed starters missing if you include langley who barely featured. we played majority of game a forward light on bench and entire 2nd half without a recognised hooker. We were always looking at a loss realistically. Magnitude is in no small part down to injuries suffered during game.
FFS get a grip. look at the team sheet for the game. Hull were full strength bar lynch and heremea. we had 7 guaranteed starters missing if you include langley who barely featured. we played majority of game a forward light on bench and entire 2nd half without a recognised hooker. We were always looking at a loss realistically. Magnitude is in no small part down to injuries suffered during game. mdn
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2:48am Mon 30 Jan 12

Tricky Dicky says...

An abject performance in a pre-season friendly whilst hard to take may be a symptom of other things within the club not directly related to the playing side of things. The deal with the RFL has been pushed to the back-burner but I believe there is trouble within Odsal that is not being revealed but is, and will, have a damaging effect on the morale and motivation of players. Come clean, Mr Hood!
An abject performance in a pre-season friendly whilst hard to take may be a symptom of other things within the club not directly related to the playing side of things. The deal with the RFL has been pushed to the back-burner but I believe there is trouble within Odsal that is not being revealed but is, and will, have a damaging effect on the morale and motivation of players. Come clean, Mr Hood! Tricky Dicky
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5:30am Mon 30 Jan 12

bullybullman says...

Well thats it then season over ! Shock result but in reality it means nothing. Potter is fighting for his own survival as if we have another disaster where will he go ? this is the squad he has built. I dont think Kear & Samut can be classed as journey men & yes they played at Crusaders but never the less I think both are good signings. Craig you have my sympathy nothing worse than going to a game full of confidence only to have the stuffing knocked out of you. We need to settle down and see what the Catalans game brings all not lost by a long way but it is worrying with only 6 days to go. I wonder what Potters comments will be today lets hope its a good honest assesment.
Well thats it then season over ! Shock result but in reality it means nothing. Potter is fighting for his own survival as if we have another disaster where will he go ? this is the squad he has built. I dont think Kear & Samut can be classed as journey men & yes they played at Crusaders but never the less I think both are good signings. Craig you have my sympathy nothing worse than going to a game full of confidence only to have the stuffing knocked out of you. We need to settle down and see what the Catalans game brings all not lost by a long way but it is worrying with only 6 days to go. I wonder what Potters comments will be today lets hope its a good honest assesment. bullybullman
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8:20am Mon 30 Jan 12

Craig says...

I didn't go to the game full of confidence bullybull, I saw the Dewsbury game for what it was (first and second half) and fully expected to be on the wrong side of the game yesterday.

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What I didn't expect to see was so many players who looked completely and utterly unprepared for the physicality of a game of rugby league, I mean seriously, why do we seem to have players who want the benefits of being a professional sportsman without expecting to put in the hard yards associated with the sport?

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There are plenty on here who call me and others doom merchants, I'm far from that; I think the fact that I still go to the games; friendlies, home, away et al shows that I am not someone who throws the towel in on the team. When I'm at a match, I shout and ball and back the team to the hilt. However, afterwards, I'm willing to say my piece and put the rose-tinted stuff to one side.

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We have a group of players who are mentally weak and because of that are unable or, it seems at times, unwilling to match the opponents level of physicality. We have players who are so easily knocked out of their game plan that teams know that all they have to do is show marginally more aggression than us for the first 20 minutes and we are liable to collapse and more than that make the kind of basic mistakes that add up to free points against us.

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There are those that are willing to tell me that we have a multitude of injuries to key players, yes, that's a given but they are also players that are susceptible to injury in what is a physical sport where injuries will occur and do occur to us because we are weak. The team that was out yesterday could be the team we have to put out many times this year and frankly, as I've already said, below the six or seven up-to-standard players we have is pure, unaldulterated mediocrity and it's already showing.

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Unless we stand up to be counted this year and at the very least match fire with fire, the season will be no different to any of the last few that have gone before. I'm not being fatalistic, it's being realistic - like it or lump it.
I didn't go to the game full of confidence bullybull, I saw the Dewsbury game for what it was (first and second half) and fully expected to be on the wrong side of the game yesterday. * What I didn't expect to see was so many players who looked completely and utterly unprepared for the physicality of a game of rugby league, I mean seriously, why do we seem to have players who want the benefits of being a professional sportsman without expecting to put in the hard yards associated with the sport? * There are plenty on here who call me and others doom merchants, I'm far from that; I think the fact that I still go to the games; friendlies, home, away et al shows that I am not someone who throws the towel in on the team. When I'm at a match, I shout and ball and back the team to the hilt. However, afterwards, I'm willing to say my piece and put the rose-tinted stuff to one side. * We have a group of players who are mentally weak and because of that are unable or, it seems at times, unwilling to match the opponents level of physicality. We have players who are so easily knocked out of their game plan that teams know that all they have to do is show marginally more aggression than us for the first 20 minutes and we are liable to collapse and more than that make the kind of basic mistakes that add up to free points against us. * There are those that are willing to tell me that we have a multitude of injuries to key players, yes, that's a given but they are also players that are susceptible to injury in what is a physical sport where injuries will occur and do occur to us because we are weak. The team that was out yesterday could be the team we have to put out many times this year and frankly, as I've already said, below the six or seven up-to-standard players we have is pure, unaldulterated mediocrity and it's already showing. * Unless we stand up to be counted this year and at the very least match fire with fire, the season will be no different to any of the last few that have gone before. I'm not being fatalistic, it's being realistic - like it or lump it. Craig
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8:46am Mon 30 Jan 12

Dore-Bull says...

Got to agree with you Craig.
Got to agree with you Craig. Dore-Bull
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9:48am Mon 30 Jan 12

murphyslaw says...

Craig, nice to read your comments. You see it exactly as it is and don't live in the dreamland so many seem to build for themselves. The Bulls were thrashed and theres no polite way of saying it. Why do people insist on dressing these things up into something approaching respectable. What is it that seems to obstruct them from actually seeing it as it is?.
It's what is wrong at the club these days, we are always reading how much better things will be 'tomorrow'.
Craig, nice to read your comments. You see it exactly as it is and don't live in the dreamland so many seem to build for themselves. The Bulls were thrashed and theres no polite way of saying it. Why do people insist on dressing these things up into something approaching respectable. What is it that seems to obstruct them from actually seeing it as it is?. It's what is wrong at the club these days, we are always reading how much better things will be 'tomorrow'. murphyslaw
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12:35pm Mon 30 Jan 12

Bingley Bull says...

"Only a friendly, only a friendly". It was only a friendly for Hull as well !
"Only a friendly, only a friendly". It was only a friendly for Hull as well ! Bingley Bull
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9:01pm Tue 31 Jan 12

Pak-Bantam says...

£24.4 million City Park

£20m New York Stadium
£24.4 million City Park £20m New York Stadium Pak-Bantam
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