Peter Taylor to leave Bradford City (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)

Not surprised, I wasn`t one for saying he should have been sacked but for whatever reason it just hasn`t worked out.

This has made my day!

we will have to see Thee voice of reason, depends who replaces him

Agreed, hope it's not Wethers or Deano.
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John Hendrie is still very close to the club, was there Tuesday night I wouldn't be too upset if he was given a shot.

Best result of a miserable season. Should give the players a lift on sat knowing he will be leaving shortly after. Just a strange decision after game and not immediately. Bizarre to be honest but this is city i suppose. Made my day now lets hope we survive

Hope we win 7-0 and play out of their skins.I am sorry that we haven't moved forward under PT and there can have been no doubting his commitment to the Club.But I would not like to decide who now takes the reigns,there would be no shortage of applicants in the longer term as our beloved Club certainly offers the challenge,an attraction for most credentials I'm sure.I wouldn't mind an Alex Ferguson type to mentor us through to the end of the season though.

How bizarre!

So he's going to stand in the dug out on Saturday and be abused by all the fans who wanted him sacked? And still make decisions for the benefit of the club?

This seems like a very unusual situation for both parties. Not something I would recommend at all, but what do I know? Oh yes, I know enough to never get involved in football 'business'!

Thank God for small mercies!

Can't believe the lunatic is staying for the game!

I look forward to giving him a load of abuse on Saturday.

Probably City's worst ever manager

Good ridance to bad rubbish

Time for a celebratory ale!

John Hendrie in a Kenny Dalglish type capacity would be popular with Deano to gee the lads up - just not to pick the team or decide tactics

He wants to go out on a 3 pointer, to show how his way of playing really CAN work. Lets face it, Stockport at home SHOULD be just that, but anything less than a convincing win, and the shame will follow him for what's left of his career!

After the game? Odd - but then this is BCAFC.

Betrescue Bob wrote:
Thank God for small mercies!

Can't believe the lunatic is staying for the game!

I look forward to giving him a load of abuse on Saturday.

Probably City's worst ever manager

Good ridance to bad rubbish

Time for a celebratory ale!

John Hendrie in a Kenny Dalglish type capacity would be popular with Deano to gee the lads up - just not to pick the team or decide tactics

Look forward to giving him a load of abuse on Saturday.

Nice to see a mature attitude! Whilst I thought it was the right appointment, I agree it hasn't worked and things had to change. I hope prospective managers don't judge the majority of fans and the club on juveniles who want to abuse the current man in charge.

Any chance of the board making a statement as to their intentions. Are they looking for somebody to fill in for a couple of games pending an appointment, somebody till the end of the season then a lengthy interview process to get the right man or an imminent appointment for the long term with somebody already in mind?

Lousy tactician, rubbish man-manager, dillusional, arrogant, conceited just a few of things Taylor is. Only hope that the other two wise monkeys in dug out go as well. Can't be any coincidence that Jacobs has been there during the worst seasons I can ever remember.

Not sure having Taylor in charge on Sat is clever, what has he got to gain? For all we know he could play players out of postion purely out of spite so we lose..........hang on he's been doing that all season!!

Thank god come in deano till the end of the year!!

The General 80-85 wrote:
Thank god come in deano till the end of the year!!

And what experience as Deano got none as above and I have said before John Hendrie would be a good shout did ok at Barnsley with no money but also he seems to know what we are lacking and talks a good game on radio when with Derm Tanner

Bingley Chicken wrote:

Betrescue Bob wrote: Thank God for small mercies! Can't believe the lunatic is staying for the game! I look forward to giving him a load of abuse on Saturday. Probably City's worst ever manager Good ridance to bad rubbish Time for a celebratory ale! John Hendrie in a Kenny Dalglish type capacity would be popular with Deano to gee the lads up - just not to pick the team or decide tactics

Look forward to giving him a load of abuse on Saturday. Nice to see a mature attitude! Whilst I thought it was the right appointment, I agree it hasn't worked and things had to change. I hope prospective managers don't judge the majority of fans and the club on juveniles who want to abuse the current man in charge. Any chance of the board making a statement as to their intentions. Are they looking for somebody to fill in for a couple of games pending an appointment, somebody till the end of the season then a lengthy interview process to get the right man or an imminent appointment for the long term with somebody already in mind?

I have to agree with you regarding the abuse. It will do no good at all, if anything it will have a negative impact on the players. No manager sets out to be a bad manager and I think a grown up attitude and a realisation that it's not worked out as anybody wanted would be better than abusing the bloke.
It's strange they announce he's going before the game though.

Bingley Chicken wrote:

Betrescue Bob wrote: Thank God for small mercies! Can't believe the lunatic is staying for the game! I look forward to giving him a load of abuse on Saturday. Probably City's worst ever manager Good ridance to bad rubbish Time for a celebratory ale! John Hendrie in a Kenny Dalglish type capacity would be popular with Deano to gee the lads up - just not to pick the team or decide tactics

Look forward to giving him a load of abuse on Saturday. Nice to see a mature attitude! Whilst I thought it was the right appointment, I agree it hasn't worked and things had to change. I hope prospective managers don't judge the majority of fans and the club on juveniles who want to abuse the current man in charge. Any chance of the board making a statement as to their intentions. Are they looking for somebody to fill in for a couple of games pending an appointment, somebody till the end of the season then a lengthy interview process to get the right man or an imminent appointment for the long term with somebody already in mind?

Couldnt have put it better why be a manager of a club whose fans like to abuse them he is probably part of the chav gang down at vp

Apologies. Quite right. Everyone should say, never mind old chap, you can't win them all. No hard feelings in producing the worst football and the worst results for over thirty years.

You have, after all, had five promotions by George and despite no one wanting you at the club for the past two months, many a lot longer, you choose to stick by the sinking ship for one last hoorar.

You have spent much of your time this season slagging off your players and the fans and after taking us into the re-election zone you deserve nothing more than a slap on the back and a good luck wish.

I'll be there cheering on the team of course, but will also be juvenile in my jeering the clown prince who has got us into this mess through his poor signings, shocking tactics and incredulous attitude.

He could of course do every one a favour and avoid further embarrassment by not turning up, which surely serves no purpose whatsoever.

Charlie would be better on the touchline.

One considers oneself told off and sent to the naughty corner.

Will the board finish the season on the cheap? with jacobs and wetherhall taking over? we have no money to bring in another manager, will it be windass? personally i would go for chris wilder at oxford (but would he move) lee sinnott? or how about x posh manager gary johnson, or alan irvine? food for thought my friends

whatever will be iam still and always will be
CITY TILL I DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ricky wrote:

Bingley Chicken wrote:

Betrescue Bob wrote: Thank God for small mercies! Can't believe the lunatic is staying for the game! I look forward to giving him a load of abuse on Saturday. Probably City's worst ever manager Good ridance to bad rubbish Time for a celebratory ale! John Hendrie in a Kenny Dalglish type capacity would be popular with Deano to gee the lads up - just not to pick the team or decide tactics

Look forward to giving him a load of abuse on Saturday. Nice to see a mature attitude! Whilst I thought it was the right appointment, I agree it hasn't worked and things had to change. I hope prospective managers don't judge the majority of fans and the club on juveniles who want to abuse the current man in charge. Any chance of the board making a statement as to their intentions. Are they looking for somebody to fill in for a couple of games pending an appointment, somebody till the end of the season then a lengthy interview process to get the right man or an imminent appointment for the long term with somebody already in mind?

Couldnt have put it better why be a manager of a club whose fans like to abuse them he is probably part of the chav gang down at vp

Wait a minute hasn't he abused us for the past year and a bit??

He has abused our eyes with the football we have had to endure.

he abused anyone who dare criticise him and called them B**stards.

THe ONLY reason he shouldn't be abused is for the sake of the players and the team. He knows this game is a biggie and one we should really win. he also knows that any dissent coming towards him probably won't happen because of the situation.

I believe in karmic law. he has abused us and will continue to abuse us indirectly with the squad, resources spent etc for some time so if anyone wnats to let him know how they feel i say do it.

The most disappointing managerial appointment in recent history. He looked like the perfect man for the job. I just hope city dont collapse like they did when Todd left when City were in mid table in Division 2 yet ended up getting relegated.

It hasn't worked out, he was employed to bring promotion and the majority expected and believed it possible. Let's just support on Saturday, what can be gained by denigration? Plenty can be lost, like the next guy being at the match and thinking 'sod this, I'm not managing a team such as this witrh this type of support' .
PT is leaving and the majority once again have their wish, let us hope it is a turning point and leave it at that.

"HAPPY VALLEY-EXCESS ALL AREAS"
Episode 26
Scene: The Dressing room area

PT is standing alone, taking in the 'decision' to leave on Saturday. He stares around..how things have changed.. in just one year! All his hopes..for the club..had come to nought. Just then ..Jakes walks in behind him, with a penknife in his hand. (?!!) At first unaware of his 'faithful' assistant, PT turns around..and sees WJ behind him!
PT: ..Eh...what's this..(Shakespeare!!
) ..Is this..a..dagger..I see before me?!!..ET TU..JAKESIE?!!!
WJ:..What?...Oh..No.
.No..!! I'm just going to try to get some soil out from around the studs on my boots, Gaffer!!
WJ picks up a boot and starts digging out some muck.
PT: Than goodness for that..I can..just about take..the fans..the b**t**ds, the 'Chiefs'..the players..turning against me...but NOT..my faithful Jakes!!
WJ: I would NEVER have betrayed YOU Gaffer..you KNOW that!!
PT: ..Yes, Jakes..whatever's happened..we've stuck..together, haven't we?
WJ: Yes, indeed!
PT: I was..just..thinking.
.about what will happen on Saturday.
WJ: Yes.
PT: Will it be like..

THIS..
scenario one:
Radio: "The Bantams have ..just beaten Stockport convincingly 3-1 and the fans are magnanimously cheering Peter Taylor ..as he waves to the crowd from the dug out ..for the last time!!

OR THIS..
scenario two:
Radio: "The atmosphere has turned very ugly now at VP. City have slipped to a 0-1 defeat, after a late substitution. The boos are ringing out-some people are on the pitch and PT is being given a police escort to the dressing room!!"

OR THIS..
scenario three:
Radio: "And the match has ended in a draw..which at least means Stockport have not gained points at City's expense! PT..is walking away..and there is an unreal atmosphere in the stadium. Some fans are standing in silence, some are booing, whilst a few clap PT for his efforts on the team's behalf!"

WJ: Look Gaffer..it hasn't worked out..but you had success before..you'll have it again..somewhere else..and I'll be there with you on Saturday!
PT: Thanks..Jakes!
PT walks slowly away..leaving his 'friend' behind..watching him go!
At least..after Saturday..he could..relax! Who'd be a manager of a football club..he thought!!

Betrescue Bob wrote:
Apologies. Quite right. Everyone should say, never mind old chap, you can't win them all. No hard feelings in producing the worst football and the worst results for over thirty years.

You have, after all, had five promotions by George and despite no one wanting you at the club for the past two months, many a lot longer, you choose to stick by the sinking ship for one last hoorar.

You have spent much of your time this season slagging off your players and the fans and after taking us into the re-election zone you deserve nothing more than a slap on the back and a good luck wish.

I'll be there cheering on the team of course, but will also be juvenile in my jeering the clown prince who has got us into this mess through his poor signings, shocking tactics and incredulous attitude.

He could of course do every one a favour and avoid further embarrassment by not turning up, which surely serves no purpose whatsoever.

Charlie would be better on the touchline.

One considers oneself told off and sent to the naughty corner.

The simple fact is that as soon as this was announced then the club are in the 'shop window' and if/when applicants are invited for the vacant post then I would like the best coming forward who see a club with potential they want to manage. I don't want them to not bother because they think that two months into their long term rebuild they will be abused when we aren't 10 points clear at the top.

Scargutt wrote:
How bizarre!

So he's going to stand in the dug out on Saturday and be abused by all the fans who wanted him sacked? And still make decisions for the benefit of the club?

This seems like a very unusual situation for both parties. Not something I would recommend at all, but what do I know? Oh yes, I know enough to never get involved in football 'business'!

It might be bizarre but Peter Taylor is an honourable man who will continue to do his best until the point at which he takes his final walk from the stadium. Time will tell but in my view there was probably no-one who could have done better. BCFC is a club with very limited resources that has to ply its trade on half a shoestring. Its not the manager that is the problem, and I am sure Peter regrets not being able to turn things around. I doubt though whether there is a manager in the country that could!

Betrescue Bob wrote:
Apologies. Quite right. Everyone should say, never mind old chap, you can't win them all. No hard feelings in producing the worst football and the worst results for over thirty years.

You have, after all, had five promotions by George and despite no one wanting you at the club for the past two months, many a lot longer, you choose to stick by the sinking ship for one last hoorar.

You have spent much of your time this season slagging off your players and the fans and after taking us into the re-election zone you deserve nothing more than a slap on the back and a good luck wish.

I'll be there cheering on the team of course, but will also be juvenile in my jeering the clown prince who has got us into this mess through his poor signings, shocking tactics and incredulous attitude.

He could of course do every one a favour and avoid further embarrassment by not turning up, which surely serves no purpose whatsoever.

Charlie would be better on the touchline.

One considers oneself told off and sent to the naughty corner.

Well said. There's too many cowards amongst the city fans. By this i mean there are all these fans sitting on the fence and won't have-a go safe in the knowledge that one day the team wins a game. I cheer my team on, i offer praise when its due and encouragement when its also due and deserved but i won't accept a lack of effort from players or poor management which is what taylor is basewd on what i have witnessed at our club.

One only needs to look at the Sunwin stand for this type of supporter. There's more life at the local bingo venue.

I say support the team but give Taylor everything you want on Saturday be that abuse or an "hardlines Mr. Taylor it just wasn't meant to be. here shake my hand whilst you have delivered a seasons worth of poor entertainment and medicrity. I've seen more passion in Diouf's spit.....

dannbradfc wrote:

ricky wrote:

Bingley Chicken wrote:

Betrescue Bob wrote: Thank God for small mercies! Can't believe the lunatic is staying for the game! I look forward to giving him a load of abuse on Saturday. Probably City's worst ever manager Good ridance to bad rubbish Time for a celebratory ale! John Hendrie in a Kenny Dalglish type capacity would be popular with Deano to gee the lads up - just not to pick the team or decide tactics

Look forward to giving him a load of abuse on Saturday. Nice to see a mature attitude! Whilst I thought it was the right appointment, I agree it hasn't worked and things had to change. I hope prospective managers don't judge the majority of fans and the club on juveniles who want to abuse the current man in charge. Any chance of the board making a statement as to their intentions. Are they looking for somebody to fill in for a couple of games pending an appointment, somebody till the end of the season then a lengthy interview process to get the right man or an imminent appointment for the long term with somebody already in mind?

Couldnt have put it better why be a manager of a club whose fans like to abuse them he is probably part of the chav gang down at vp

Wait a minute hasn't he abused us for the past year and a bit??

He has abused our eyes with the football we have had to endure.

he abused anyone who dare criticise him and called them B**stards.

THe ONLY reason he shouldn't be abused is for the sake of the players and the team. He knows this game is a biggie and one we should really win. he also knows that any dissent coming towards him probably won't happen because of the situation.

I believe in karmic law. he has abused us and will continue to abuse us indirectly with the squad, resources spent etc for some time so if anyone wnats to let him know how they feel i say do it.

I've set out the reason for not abusing PT above. Prisoner Cell Block A also makes a good point for not doing it.

Cityman23 wrote:
"HAPPY VALLEY-EXCESS ALL AREAS"
Episode 26
Scene: The Dressing room area

PT is standing alone, taking in the 'decision' to leave on Saturday. He stares around..how things have changed.. in just one year! All his hopes..for the club..had come to nought. Just then ..Jakes walks in behind him, with a penknife in his hand. (?!!) At first unaware of his 'faithful' assistant, PT turns around..and sees WJ behind him!
PT: ..Eh...what's this..(Shakespeare!!

) ..Is this..a..dagger..I see before me?!!..ET TU..JAKESIE?!!!
WJ:..What?...Oh..No.

.No..!! I'm just going to try to get some soil out from around the studs on my boots, Gaffer!!
WJ picks up a boot and starts digging out some muck.
PT: Than goodness for that..I can..just about take..the fans..the b**t**ds, the 'Chiefs'..the players..turning against me...but NOT..my faithful Jakes!!
WJ: I would NEVER have betrayed YOU Gaffer..you KNOW that!!
PT: ..Yes, Jakes..whatever's happened..we've stuck..together, haven't we?
WJ: Yes, indeed!
PT: I was..just..thinking.

.about what will happen on Saturday.
WJ: Yes.
PT: Will it be like..

THIS..
scenario one:
Radio: "The Bantams have ..just beaten Stockport convincingly 3-1 and the fans are magnanimously cheering Peter Taylor ..as he waves to the crowd from the dug out ..for the last time!!

OR THIS..
scenario two:
Radio: "The atmosphere has turned very ugly now at VP. City have slipped to a 0-1 defeat, after a late substitution. The boos are ringing out-some people are on the pitch and PT is being given a police escort to the dressing room!!"

OR THIS..
scenario three:
Radio: "And the match has ended in a draw..which at least means Stockport have not gained points at City's expense! PT..is walking away..and there is an unreal atmosphere in the stadium. Some fans are standing in silence, some are booing, whilst a few clap PT for his efforts on the team's behalf!"

WJ: Look Gaffer..it hasn't worked out..but you had success before..you'll have it again..somewhere else..and I'll be there with you on Saturday!
PT: Thanks..Jakes!
PT walks slowly away..leaving his 'friend' behind..watching him go!
At least..after Saturday..he could..relax! Who'd be a manager of a football club..he thought!!

the perfect ending to volume one of your saga. Lets hope volume two is the beginning of a brighter episode

There has been talk by some contributors that City may be relegated. I think you are are wrong, the word you are looking for is extinction. They can hardly afford to stay at Valley Parade now, so where would they play, Lister Park? - Oh no sorry I forgot, they could play at the Odsal Sporting Village.

Bring back Zesh Rehman....... He should have just stuck around a little bit more on the bench and outwit Taylor in the end!!!! Because we all new Taylor would go ...it was just a matter of when!!!!!!

well. about time he went. city have done nothing under him this season. lets hopwe we avoid the drop. come on city.

dannbradfc wrote:

Cityman23 wrote:
"HAPPY VALLEY-EXCESS ALL AREAS"
Episode 26
Scene: The Dressing room area

PT is standing alone, taking in the 'decision' to leave on Saturday. He stares around..how things have changed.. in just one year! All his hopes..for the club..had come to nought. Just then ..Jakes walks in behind him, with a penknife in his hand. (?!!) At first unaware of his 'faithful' assistant, PT turns around..and sees WJ behind him!
PT: ..Eh...what's this..(Shakespeare!!


) ..Is this..a..dagger..I see before me?!!..ET TU..JAKESIE?!!!
WJ:..What?...Oh..No.


.No..!! I'm just going to try to get some soil out from around the studs on my boots, Gaffer!!
WJ picks up a boot and starts digging out some muck.
PT: Than goodness for that..I can..just about take..the fans..the b**t**ds, the 'Chiefs'..the players..turning against me...but NOT..my faithful Jakes!!
WJ: I would NEVER have betrayed YOU Gaffer..you KNOW that!!
PT: ..Yes, Jakes..whatever's happened..we've stuck..together, haven't we?
WJ: Yes, indeed!
PT: I was..just..thinking.


.about what will happen on Saturday.
WJ: Yes.
PT: Will it be like..

THIS..
scenario one:
Radio: "The Bantams have ..just beaten Stockport convincingly 3-1 and the fans are magnanimously cheering Peter Taylor ..as he waves to the crowd from the dug out ..for the last time!!

OR THIS..
scenario two:
Radio: "The atmosphere has turned very ugly now at VP. City have slipped to a 0-1 defeat, after a late substitution. The boos are ringing out-some people are on the pitch and PT is being given a police escort to the dressing room!!"

OR THIS..
scenario three:
Radio: "And the match has ended in a draw..which at least means Stockport have not gained points at City's expense! PT..is walking away..and there is an unreal atmosphere in the stadium. Some fans are standing in silence, some are booing, whilst a few clap PT for his efforts on the team's behalf!"

WJ: Look Gaffer..it hasn't worked out..but you had success before..you'll have it again..somewhere else..and I'll be there with you on Saturday!
PT: Thanks..Jakes!
PT walks slowly away..leaving his 'friend' behind..watching him go!
At least..after Saturday..he could..relax! Who'd be a manager of a football club..he thought!!

the perfect ending to volume one of your saga. Lets hope volume two is the beginning of a brighter episode

Et tou Brute!?

Remeber well jacobs has stared and stared for the last three seasons of failure.

If we survive a total overhaul of the club is to be undertaken.

Did Keith Hill sign that contract at Rochdale?

dannbradfc wrote:

Betrescue Bob wrote: Apologies. Quite right. Everyone should say, never mind old chap, you can't win them all. No hard feelings in producing the worst football and the worst results for over thirty years. You have, after all, had five promotions by George and despite no one wanting you at the club for the past two months, many a lot longer, you choose to stick by the sinking ship for one last hoorar. You have spent much of your time this season slagging off your players and the fans and after taking us into the re-election zone you deserve nothing more than a slap on the back and a good luck wish. I'll be there cheering on the team of course, but will also be juvenile in my jeering the clown prince who has got us into this mess through his poor signings, shocking tactics and incredulous attitude. He could of course do every one a favour and avoid further embarrassment by not turning up, which surely serves no purpose whatsoever. Charlie would be better on the touchline. One considers oneself told off and sent to the naughty corner.

Well said. There's too many cowards amongst the city fans. By this i mean there are all these fans sitting on the fence and won't have-a go safe in the knowledge that one day the team wins a game. I cheer my team on, i offer praise when its due and encouragement when its also due and deserved but i won't accept a lack of effort from players or poor management which is what taylor is basewd on what i have witnessed at our club. One only needs to look at the Sunwin stand for this type of supporter. There's more life at the local bingo venue. I say support the team but give Taylor everything you want on Saturday be that abuse or an "hardlines Mr. Taylor it just wasn't meant to be. here shake my hand whilst you have delivered a seasons worth of poor entertainment and medicrity. I've seen more passion in Diouf's spit.....

What's cowardly in thinking that he shouldn't be abused? The bloke has had success at other clubs and most of us thought that he would do it here as well. It hasn't worked out and the correct decision has been made. What's cowardly in having a bit of dignity and realising that sometimes things aren't meant to be?

Bingley Chicken wrote:

dannbradfc wrote:

ricky wrote:

Bingley Chicken wrote:

Betrescue Bob wrote: Thank God for small mercies! Can't believe the lunatic is staying for the game! I look forward to giving him a load of abuse on Saturday. Probably City's worst ever manager Good ridance to bad rubbish Time for a celebratory ale! John Hendrie in a Kenny Dalglish type capacity would be popular with Deano to gee the lads up - just not to pick the team or decide tactics

Look forward to giving him a load of abuse on Saturday. Nice to see a mature attitude! Whilst I thought it was the right appointment, I agree it hasn't worked and things had to change. I hope prospective managers don't judge the majority of fans and the club on juveniles who want to abuse the current man in charge. Any chance of the board making a statement as to their intentions. Are they looking for somebody to fill in for a couple of games pending an appointment, somebody till the end of the season then a lengthy interview process to get the right man or an imminent appointment for the long term with somebody already in mind?

Couldnt have put it better why be a manager of a club whose fans like to abuse them he is probably part of the chav gang down at vp

Wait a minute hasn't he abused us for the past year and a bit??

He has abused our eyes with the football we have had to endure.

he abused anyone who dare criticise him and called them B**stards.

THe ONLY reason he shouldn't be abused is for the sake of the players and the team. He knows this game is a biggie and one we should really win. he also knows that any dissent coming towards him probably won't happen because of the situation.

I believe in karmic law. he has abused us and will continue to abuse us indirectly with the squad, resources spent etc for some time so if anyone wnats to let him know how they feel i say do it.

I've set out the reason for not abusing PT above. Prisoner Cell Block A also makes a good point for not doing it.

Fact is i wouldn't want a new manager if he can't understand that the fans are upset about the way taylor has handled this season. Any watching mnagers will know that this is football.

Any person that we actually want, will see the crowd and think what it would be like to have them singing his name. We don't want a manger who can't handle that, simple.

So i say, say whatever you want to taylor but support the players

My initial main longer post appears to have disappeared??!! but i will surmise it thus:

NOTICE HOW THE SUN HAS COME OUT IN BRADFORD?

tHE GLASS IS HALF-FULL AGAIN...

and has taylor was fond of saying:
THE SEASON STARTS NOW........

Duke of Odsal wrote:

Scargutt wrote:
How bizarre!

So he's going to stand in the dug out on Saturday and be abused by all the fans who wanted him sacked? And still make decisions for the benefit of the club?

This seems like a very unusual situation for both parties. Not something I would recommend at all, but what do I know? Oh yes, I know enough to never get involved in football 'business'!

It might be bizarre but Peter Taylor is an honourable man who will continue to do his best until the point at which he takes his final walk from the stadium. Time will tell but in my view there was probably no-one who could have done better. BCFC is a club with very limited resources that has to ply its trade on half a shoestring. Its not the manager that is the problem, and I am sure Peter regrets not being able to turn things around. I doubt though whether there is a manager in the country that could!

Duke, i'm sure Taylor will do his best, but if he makes a late substitution and we go on to lose, that decision will be analysed to death with all osrts of accusations thrown at him.

I hate the manager merry-go-round, but i'm afraid in this case I believe our squad this season has been easily strong enough to reach the playoffs.

Something's wrong clearly and i'm loathed to blame everything on Taylor, but I can't help but think we couldn't possibly do any worse - although whether we'll do any better remians to be seen too - fans are already expecting promotion next season and we haven't even named the poor sod who will fail to get us there yet!

Kramer wrote:
After the game? Odd - but then this is BCAFC.

Taylor knows the fans are un-happy. We don't know the details but i guess that this way taylor is in charge of the decision.

He knows the fans will most likely be supporting their team in such a crunch match.

He also knows we should and most likely will beat Stockport so he can walk -off with his head held delusionally high.

He wasn't going to change and neither was the season so this way he can leave without to much of his ego getiing abused.

the question remains was this his decision or the boards. It can't have been the latter or taylor would not be there Saturday. They will most likely say it was a mutual decision and the board would like to thank Peter for seeing us through a very important match for our football club, after which he will stand down etc etc

It is a starnge one though perhaps even unprecedented

soz i posted the post above before the story was expanded.

So it was Taylor's decision. Hope that means we don't have to pay compo. He is avoiding getting further abuse basically but to be fair he hasn't had that much during games. Taylor has found out that no one individual is bigger than Bradford City football club.

I'm disappointed to hear that we've got rid of another manager - even though it was inevitable given the results this season - because it's another consequence of failure. I was disappointed when Stuart went because everyone would have loved to see our hero succeed and I'm disappointed that Peter Taylor has had to go because we had such high hopes of him as an experienced manager at this level. Both are honourable men who were committed to trying to succeed but, in both cases, it hasn't worked out, whatever the reasons, and we are in dire straits. I just hope that making this change now gets the right reaction, as it doesn't always follow. Look at Micky Adams at Sheffield United and I also believe that we would have stayed in League One if Todd had not gone when he did.

The Board have said before that they want stability and it would be so much better now sitting here having had the same manager in place for four or five seasons, like a Jon Coleman or Dario Gradi. I'm not suggesting they should be candidates for the role, just using them as an example of what a great job they have done for their respective clubs and the stability they give to those clubs. Accrington have constant financial difficulties and can't get 2,000 to watch them but Coleman puts out a team that punches above its weight. Gradi has brought so much money into his club by developing young players and encouraging them to play in the right way. This has enabled them to play in higher divisions in recent years - and even now they are challenging - and stay financially sound.

I won't be sad to see Mr Taylor go if it gives us a boost and ensures our safety in this league because that is paramount whoever takes charge. Perhaps it will get some of the players back from injury quicker and perhaps they will start playing to their potential, too, rather than continuing to give the lacklustre and effortless displays we've seen? But I won't be abusing Taylor, either. I'm sure he didn't want to fail and, yes, he's made mistakes that many have pointed out. He seems an honourable man and hasn't had the best rub of the green with players constantly injured or underperforming, which hasn't helped establish a stable eleven or system of playing. I hope the players get a lift and start playing to strengths because, as Michael Flynn said, they have let us down this season and owe the fans big time. I will acknowledge that they have not done well for us, but I personally will not boo the management team or players on Saturday (or any day) because at the end of the day I am a City fan - have been for nearly 50 years - and will always give my support.

I hope that City fans will put aside their individual gripes and just get behind the team on Saturday - as they have done so marvellously year in, year out - and play our part in a good result which could turn the season around. The owners have done their best to keep this club afloat and put money behind trying to get the success we crave. Unfortunately, it hasn't worked out, but we need to move on and give them our support to try and get out of this mess.

Amazing news!!!!!!!!!!!!
.
Congratulations once again to Lawn & Rhodes!
.
sec word bank-open for Taylor's pay off, to$$er

blame the manager as usual, squad good enough to make play offs?
don't make me laugh.
usual cop out and bradford fans make me sick.
i go every home game and all you get his moaning about players after 5mins.
don't give em chance to get going and on there backs.
away fans twice as good.
anyone not wonder why daley went to rotherham and taylor not gone before now?
money, we ant got any!
can't afford to sack taylor so beg him to leave without having to pay out and sending daley to rotherham gets him off wage bill because ellison cheaper option.
last person out shut the gates.............

Where did my comment go??

Congratulations to the "empty vessels" on here and other sites - you've got what you wanted, the latest episode of Groundhog Day. Isn't it amazing that you lot always know more than the manager, no matter who he happens to be? Not only the manager, but also the players.

This is what Flynn said on the official site this morning:

"I think we need a result for the gaffer as well. I think if we're honest, we have all let him down a bit this season so far - myself included.

"I know I haven't played that many games this season, but I've been injured so I haven't really been much use to him or anyone this season.

"It's been an honour to work under the gaffer this season. He's such an experienced man and it's a privilege to work with him. I think a fair few of us will look back at the end of our careers and say we were lucky to work under such a manager as him."

And you think the next manager will do any better on the breadcrumbs he is fed by the board? Roll on Groundhog Day part umpteen this time next year, and the year after and the year after...

WHY ON EARTH IS HE STAYING FOR SATURDAYS GAME????
We really have to win that game!! And with Taylor in charge the only people who will be happy with that is Stockport!!
STILL at least hes going.......YIPPEE!!
!!

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
This has made my day!

Wait till they announce they are moving to Odsal. That will really make your day!! But then you will be in Conference.

dannbradfc wrote:

Bingley Chicken wrote:

dannbradfc wrote:

ricky wrote:

Bingley Chicken wrote:

Betrescue Bob wrote: Thank God for small mercies! Can't believe the lunatic is staying for the game! I look forward to giving him a load of abuse on Saturday. Probably City's worst ever manager Good ridance to bad rubbish Time for a celebratory ale! John Hendrie in a Kenny Dalglish type capacity would be popular with Deano to gee the lads up - just not to pick the team or decide tactics

Look forward to giving him a load of abuse on Saturday. Nice to see a mature attitude! Whilst I thought it was the right appointment, I agree it hasn't worked and things had to change. I hope prospective managers don't judge the majority of fans and the club on juveniles who want to abuse the current man in charge. Any chance of the board making a statement as to their intentions. Are they looking for somebody to fill in for a couple of games pending an appointment, somebody till the end of the season then a lengthy interview process to get the right man or an imminent appointment for the long term with somebody already in mind?

Couldnt have put it better why be a manager of a club whose fans like to abuse them he is probably part of the chav gang down at vp

Wait a minute hasn't he abused us for the past year and a bit??

He has abused our eyes with the football we have had to endure.

he abused anyone who dare criticise him and called them B**stards.

THe ONLY reason he shouldn't be abused is for the sake of the players and the team. He knows this game is a biggie and one we should really win. he also knows that any dissent coming towards him probably won't happen because of the situation.

I believe in karmic law. he has abused us and will continue to abuse us indirectly with the squad, resources spent etc for some time so if anyone wnats to let him know how they feel i say do it.

I've set out the reason for not abusing PT above. Prisoner Cell Block A also makes a good point for not doing it.

Fact is i wouldn't want a new manager if he can't understand that the fans are upset about the way taylor has handled this season. Any watching mnagers will know that this is football.

Any person that we actually want, will see the crowd and think what it would be like to have them singing his name. We don't want a manger who can't handle that, simple.

So i say, say whatever you want to taylor but support the players

Anybody with a brain knows the supporters aren't happy. Abuse of the manager won't make that clearer, it's already crystal. If you feel the need to still abuse PT then feel free, it says more about you than just making your feelings clear.

Reading Bullette wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote: This has made my day!

Wait till they announce they are moving to Odsal. That will really make your day!! But then you will be in Conference.

If I were you love i'd concentrate on keeping your super league franchise rather than trying to be clever about somebody elses misfortune.

come on lets have it right this guy was not wanted by wycombe and he got them, promotion negative football negative tactics good record previousley but even hitler had a good record before the wheels finally came off that train!!!!
we need a man manager,with some relative experience. why do city fans only talk about ex-players when the very hot seat is up for grabs.
the season is going to be very tough from here on in,but the guy must have lost the dressing room with his tinkering and loanees shoving other players on to the bench, just be thankful there are a few games left for us to finish mid table.......unless whethers or jacobs take over!

CTID CTID CTID

BD16 wrote:

Reading Bullette wrote:

Thee Voice of Reason wrote: This has made my day!

Wait till they announce they are moving to Odsal. That will really make your day!! But then you will be in Conference.

If I were you love i'd concentrate on keeping your super league franchise rather than trying to be clever about somebody elses misfortune.

Made me laugh BD16, well put.

On the 'Sack Race' website the list of possible successors is as follows:

John Hughes : 6/4
Dean Windass : 2/1
Alan Knill : 5/1
W.Jacobs/and/ or D.Wetherall: 8/1
John Hendrie/Andy Scott :10/1
Brian Laws/Gary Johnson :12/1
Iain Dowie :12/1
Keith Hill :12/1
Lawrie Sanchez :12/1
Kevin Blackwell :14/1
Dean Saunders :16/1

Obviously I dont attend any games,so can anybody tell me why you all think City should win on Saturday when all that I read on this forum is that City are absolutely garbage and heading for the Conference.Funny folk

Victor Chandler odds - money for Deano and Hughes

http://www.betrescue
.com/2011/02/deano-e
arly-bantams-favouri
te/

And there's me moaning about the endless city coverage, thinking no one's bothered and fifty of you write in. You know "there's only one team in bradford!" Up the avvie! mark 'em tighter etc ..

Any reason why we should bull? We are football fans and some travel over 200 miles every week to watch, it is called supporting.
What is about people with bull in their names today? Don't they have enough to worry about? Hook the crook is taking them for a ride yet they prefer to focus on our plight.

Any reason why we should bull? We are football fans and some travel over 200 miles every week to watch, it is called supporting.
What is about people with bull in their names today? Don't they have enough to worry about? Hook the crook is taking them for a ride yet they prefer to focus on our plight.

just been to ticket office bought twenty tickets did not need season tickets . i will give tickets away on saturday hope more will do the same and pack the ground out and give the club somr money. also saw windass at ground in his car ?

Well....groundhog day again!!!!!!!!!
I just don't know if anyone can get us out of this......I am afraid that Deano and John Hughes does not fill me with confidence......you only have to look at Darlington and where they are.....
I think that the only guy who can really motivate our players and maybe save the day would be Peter Jackson.....but to some fans he is seen as a Terriers player and ex-manager and would not be welcome at Valley Parade......I really do hope that this is not the last throw of the dice.

To answer a previous post. Yes at one time I would have said Lee Sinnot, dida great job at Farsley but came unstuck at Avenue

Saturday is all about getting behind the team. Simple fact Taylor is still there as it's too late to organise a suitable stand in replacement and the alternative options of Jacobs as caretaker etc is a clear non starter. Credit Taylor at least for facing the music this coming Saturday giving city the full following week to assess a suitable candidate. Other managers would have gone immediately.

dannbradfc wrote:

Betrescue Bob wrote:
Apologies. Quite right. Everyone should say, never mind old chap, you can't win them all. No hard feelings in producing the worst football and the worst results for over thirty years.

You have, after all, had five promotions by George and despite no one wanting you at the club for the past two months, many a lot longer, you choose to stick by the sinking ship for one last hoorar.

You have spent much of your time this season slagging off your players and the fans and after taking us into the re-election zone you deserve nothing more than a slap on the back and a good luck wish.

I'll be there cheering on the team of course, but will also be juvenile in my jeering the clown prince who has got us into this mess through his poor signings, shocking tactics and incredulous attitude.

He could of course do every one a favour and avoid further embarrassment by not turning up, which surely serves no purpose whatsoever.

Charlie would be better on the touchline.

One considers oneself told off and sent to the naughty corner.

Well said. There's too many cowards amongst the city fans. By this i mean there are all these fans sitting on the fence and won't have-a go safe in the knowledge that one day the team wins a game. I cheer my team on, i offer praise when its due and encouragement when its also due and deserved but i won't accept a lack of effort from players or poor management which is what taylor is basewd on what i have witnessed at our club.

One only needs to look at the Sunwin stand for this type of supporter. There's more life at the local bingo venue.

I say support the team but give Taylor everything you want on Saturday be that abuse or an "hardlines Mr. Taylor it just wasn't meant to be. here shake my hand whilst you have delivered a seasons worth of poor entertainment and medicrity. I've seen more passion in Diouf's spit.....

Ah, so not happy at ranting at Taylor, you're now ranting about your fellow supporters.

May I suggest it is the likes of you that have helped drive this club down over the last decade?

dannbradfc wrote:

ricky wrote:

Bingley Chicken wrote:

Betrescue Bob wrote: Thank God for small mercies! Can't believe the lunatic is staying for the game! I look forward to giving him a load of abuse on Saturday. Probably City's worst ever manager Good ridance to bad rubbish Time for a celebratory ale! John Hendrie in a Kenny Dalglish type capacity would be popular with Deano to gee the lads up - just not to pick the team or decide tactics

Look forward to giving him a load of abuse on Saturday. Nice to see a mature attitude! Whilst I thought it was the right appointment, I agree it hasn't worked and things had to change. I hope prospective managers don't judge the majority of fans and the club on juveniles who want to abuse the current man in charge. Any chance of the board making a statement as to their intentions. Are they looking for somebody to fill in for a couple of games pending an appointment, somebody till the end of the season then a lengthy interview process to get the right man or an imminent appointment for the long term with somebody already in mind?

Couldnt have put it better why be a manager of a club whose fans like to abuse them he is probably part of the chav gang down at vp

Wait a minute hasn't he abused us for the past year and a bit??

He has abused our eyes with the football we have had to endure.

he abused anyone who dare criticise him and called them B**stards.

THe ONLY reason he shouldn't be abused is for the sake of the players and the team. He knows this game is a biggie and one we should really win. he also knows that any dissent coming towards him probably won't happen because of the situation.

I believe in karmic law. he has abused us and will continue to abuse us indirectly with the squad, resources spent etc for some time so if anyone wnats to let him know how they feel i say do it.

You have surprised and disappointed me dann! I had you down as being bigger than those who will be salivating at the opportunity to abuse PT on Saturday. Do you really believe that it is right to encourage people to shout obscenities at him? You say you believe in 'Karmic Law' dann, are you sure? What you are encouraging amounts to promoting the violation of what is right and decent behaviour. What you are also promoting is hurt feelings in Peter Taylor as a human being along with hurting his families feelings. Thus you are encouraging people who carry out these attacks to also suffer 'bad' events in the future because of their unpleasant actions. Why do you want to increase bad vibrations and bad experiences into the Natural Law of the Universe? What you are encouraging is also against moral and religious standards. Encouraging people to abuse another person will not make the abusers any happier regardless of how much they delude themselves into thinking it will. Peter Taylor hasn't abused you and he hasn't abused me. Your expression of vindictiveness can only result in 'bad Karma' coming your way dann.

Fantastic news ! the big Bradford derby moves a step closer. If you paid a tenner to each fan to attend, i doubt you'd get 20,000 there on Saturday.
Simple question, if played now,
Who'd win Avenue or City ?
Smart money on Avenue.

Security words then-loss, how apt.

So Peter Taylor couldn't make a decent team out of a load of free-transfers - what a surprise.
I've got a great idea, why not get Dean Windass in; absolutely no experience and the thickest guy in football - and that is saying something.
City fans ought to realise that the Club have had some decent managers in the last 10 years but the reason we are where we are is because the Club is skint and the quality of the players at the Club reflect that.

before we judge PT lets look at the full picture; no money, injuries ti key players, and unrealistic fans, a team of loanies.

PT is one of the best managers in the world and yet it didn't work out at Bradford. lets hope that the next manger is given time and supported and encouraged by the fans.

I can see litttle point in abusing Peter Taylor on Saturday. It hasn't worked out for many reasons and I, too am, surprised that he's stopping on for Stockport, and risking the wrath of the crowd. Any negativity towards him may have a similar affect on the field. Apart from that, the guy is going, so what will abuse achieve?

One final point, Dean Windass - NEVER.

greenside wrote:
before we judge PT lets look at the full picture; no money, injuries ti key players, and unrealistic fans, a team of loanies. PT is one of the best managers in the world and yet it didn't work out at Bradford. lets hope that the next manger is given time and supported and encouraged by the fans.

...WHAT?!?


I assume you're joking?

Couldn't agree more fellas(lonnie,bingle
y chicken),the only stick i'll be dishing out is to the opposition and the officials as usual,can't see the point in either slagging Taylor off or any of our players,that's self defeating in my book.BCFC need three points on Saturday,if the fans get behind the team and manager those points will be won .It's not rocket science is it.I for one thought Taylor would be successful,i'm gutted like all BCFC fans that we're in the position we are and i believe Taylor has acted honorably and decided he can't turn it around and will resign come Saturday tea time.I for one wish him well in his future career.BCFC

It's got to be Brian Laws as the stand out name of potential successors.

Did amazing for Scunthorpe, was great at Sheff Wed through the turmoil they had - managed to keep them up against all odds for many a season and I thought he was unlucky to be fired at Burnley.

He likes to play attractive football, which is the most important factor and he'll attract the bigger name free transfers to BCFC next season.

Get him in without hesitation - providing the speculation of him being on our 'want' list is correct.

Shame we didn't do this a few weeks back when Jimmy Jewell was available!!!!

Let's not do the emotional John Hendrie appointment, as much as I like him - it didn't work with SM and just because Liverpool are enjoying a little renaissance period with King Kenny - doesn't mean it will work for us.

JH has been out of the game for a long time, has also (like SM) never had experience at this level, doesn't know the players and would need a lot of time.

Brian Laws is the man!

Can't agree lol,i believe the job he did at both Burnley and Sheffield Wednesday was poor.There will be far better candidates to choose from.CTID

Certainly not Brian Laws - unpopular with players and supporters whereever he's been.

On a long list of favourites - he'd be near the bottom.

My God, the thought of it - can things get any worse?

on a final note, taylor made beckham england captain.
ask beckham if he thinks he's a poor manager and i think he knows more than us................

Duke of Odsal wrote:

Scargutt wrote:
How bizarre!

So he's going to stand in the dug out on Saturday and be abused by all the fans who wanted him sacked? And still make decisions for the benefit of the club?

This seems like a very unusual situation for both parties. Not something I would recommend at all, but what do I know? Oh yes, I know enough to never get involved in football 'business'!

It might be bizarre but Peter Taylor is an honourable man who will continue to do his best until the point at which he takes his final walk from the stadium. Time will tell but in my view there was probably no-one who could have done better. BCFC is a club with very limited resources that has to ply its trade on half a shoestring. Its not the manager that is the problem, and I am sure Peter regrets not being able to turn things around. I doubt though whether there is a manager in the country that could!

i for one want to find out.

At least the new guy might attack. You need to score to win football games and our record in that department is shocking

Bingley Chicken wrote:

dannbradfc wrote:

Bingley Chicken wrote:

dannbradfc wrote:

ricky wrote:

Bingley Chicken wrote:

Betrescue Bob wrote: Thank God for small mercies! Can't believe the lunatic is staying for the game! I look forward to giving him a load of abuse on Saturday. Probably City's worst ever manager Good ridance to bad rubbish Time for a celebratory ale! John Hendrie in a Kenny Dalglish type capacity would be popular with Deano to gee the lads up - just not to pick the team or decide tactics

Look forward to giving him a load of abuse on Saturday. Nice to see a mature attitude! Whilst I thought it was the right appointment, I agree it hasn't worked and things had to change. I hope prospective managers don't judge the majority of fans and the club on juveniles who want to abuse the current man in charge. Any chance of the board making a statement as to their intentions. Are they looking for somebody to fill in for a couple of games pending an appointment, somebody till the end of the season then a lengthy interview process to get the right man or an imminent appointment for the long term with somebody already in mind?

Couldnt have put it better why be a manager of a club whose fans like to abuse them he is probably part of the chav gang down at vp

Wait a minute hasn't he abused us for the past year and a bit??

He has abused our eyes with the football we have had to endure.

he abused anyone who dare criticise him and called them B**stards.

THe ONLY reason he shouldn't be abused is for the sake of the players and the team. He knows this game is a biggie and one we should really win. he also knows that any dissent coming towards him probably won't happen because of the situation.

I believe in karmic law. he has abused us and will continue to abuse us indirectly with the squad, resources spent etc for some time so if anyone wnats to let him know how they feel i say do it.

I've set out the reason for not abusing PT above. Prisoner Cell Block A also makes a good point for not doing it.

Fact is i wouldn't want a new manager if he can't understand that the fans are upset about the way taylor has handled this season. Any watching mnagers will know that this is football.

Any person that we actually want, will see the crowd and think what it would be like to have them singing his name. We don't want a manger who can't handle that, simple.

So i say, say whatever you want to taylor but support the players

Anybody with a brain knows the supporters aren't happy. Abuse of the manager won't make that clearer, it's already crystal. If you feel the need to still abuse PT then feel free, it says more about you than just making your feelings clear.

Go on what does it say about me then?

SO what does it say about me then?
Don't just attempt to infer something and then not back it up. What does that say about you?

Your brain must be huge to able to work me out from what i've said.

Where have i said that i'm going to actually abuse him?
I have defended the right for people to do so which has a paying customer who is unhappy with what they receive they are entitiled to. Are you happy with the season? Are you gonna say "hardlines Peter the b**stards (to paraphrase taylor himself) don't know what there on about?

Comment on what i've said but don't project nor genearalise who or what i am because it may not agree with you. And make sure you read those comments correctly as inference is dangerous in the wrong hands

I could attempt to

BD16 wrote:

dannbradfc wrote:

Betrescue Bob wrote: Apologies. Quite right. Everyone should say, never mind old chap, you can't win them all. No hard feelings in producing the worst football and the worst results for over thirty years. You have, after all, had five promotions by George and despite no one wanting you at the club for the past two months, many a lot longer, you choose to stick by the sinking ship for one last hoorar. You have spent much of your time this season slagging off your players and the fans and after taking us into the re-election zone you deserve nothing more than a slap on the back and a good luck wish. I'll be there cheering on the team of course, but will also be juvenile in my jeering the clown prince who has got us into this mess through his poor signings, shocking tactics and incredulous attitude. He could of course do every one a favour and avoid further embarrassment by not turning up, which surely serves no purpose whatsoever. Charlie would be better on the touchline. One considers oneself told off and sent to the naughty corner.

Well said. There's too many cowards amongst the city fans. By this i mean there are all these fans sitting on the fence and won't have-a go safe in the knowledge that one day the team wins a game. I cheer my team on, i offer praise when its due and encouragement when its also due and deserved but i won't accept a lack of effort from players or poor management which is what taylor is basewd on what i have witnessed at our club. One only needs to look at the Sunwin stand for this type of supporter. There's more life at the local bingo venue. I say support the team but give Taylor everything you want on Saturday be that abuse or an "hardlines Mr. Taylor it just wasn't meant to be. here shake my hand whilst you have delivered a seasons worth of poor entertainment and medicrity. I've seen more passion in Diouf's spit.....

What's cowardly in thinking that he shouldn't be abused? The bloke has had success at other clubs and most of us thought that he would do it here as well. It hasn't worked out and the correct decision has been made. What's cowardly in having a bit of dignity and realising that sometimes things aren't meant to be?

By cowardly i mean that some people never express their true opinions about things. They accept the status-quo or whats given to them without having the gonads to speak out.

Letting someone know how you feel can still be dignified.

Have you ever shouted at the ref or an opposition player? or do you say oh well referee you may have got that penalty decision completely wrong but i guess that it just didn't work out? Are you a magistrate;)?

Taylor has had the opportunity to voice his opinion, mostly unwisely so about the fans. He has asked one on this very site to get a life;) called anyone who disagrees with him b**stards etc

he has commented on his own individual players in what couild be described as an undignified manner.

Do you think he treated Rehman in a dignified manner, for instance?

My point is that if fans are unhappy they should be allowed to let Peter know their feelings negative or otherwise.

Indeed there is nothing wrong with you shouting your support for Taylor if you want. Its your choice. In fact why don't you start a chant of Peter Taylor's Bradford Army. I would be very dignified in letting you do so.

Windyass wrote:

dannbradfc wrote:

Betrescue Bob wrote:
Apologies. Quite right. Everyone should say, never mind old chap, you can't win them all. No hard feelings in producing the worst football and the worst results for over thirty years.

You have, after all, had five promotions by George and despite no one wanting you at the club for the past two months, many a lot longer, you choose to stick by the sinking ship for one last hoorar.

You have spent much of your time this season slagging off your players and the fans and after taking us into the re-election zone you deserve nothing more than a slap on the back and a good luck wish.

I'll be there cheering on the team of course, but will also be juvenile in my jeering the clown prince who has got us into this mess through his poor signings, shocking tactics and incredulous attitude.

He could of course do every one a favour and avoid further embarrassment by not turning up, which surely serves no purpose whatsoever.

Charlie would be better on the touchline.

One considers oneself told off and sent to the naughty corner.

Well said. There's too many cowards amongst the city fans. By this i mean there are all these fans sitting on the fence and won't have-a go safe in the knowledge that one day the team wins a game. I cheer my team on, i offer praise when its due and encouragement when its also due and deserved but i won't accept a lack of effort from players or poor management which is what taylor is basewd on what i have witnessed at our club.

One only needs to look at the Sunwin stand for this type of supporter. There's more life at the local bingo venue.

I say support the team but give Taylor everything you want on Saturday be that abuse or an "hardlines Mr. Taylor it just wasn't meant to be. here shake my hand whilst you have delivered a seasons worth of poor entertainment and medicrity. I've seen more passion in Diouf's spit.....

Ah, so not happy at ranting at Taylor, you're now ranting about your fellow supporters.

May I suggest it is the likes of you that have helped drive this club down over the last decade?

Completely and utterley wrong.

The very reason i want Taylor to go and i wanted Stu to stay incidentally is for the future of our football club.

As for fans. we have some of the gretest in the country but we also have a few young idiots and others who you wouldn't even know were there

bcfc1903 wrote:
Couldn't agree more fellas(lonnie,bingle

y chicken),the only stick i'll be dishing out is to the opposition and the officials as usual,can't see the point in either slagging Taylor off or any of our players,that's self defeating in my book.BCFC need three points on Saturday,if the fans get behind the team and manager those points will be won .It's not rocket science is it.I for one thought Taylor would be successful,i'm gutted like all BCFC fans that we're in the position we are and i believe Taylor has acted honorably and decided he can't turn it around and will resign come Saturday tea time.I for one wish him well in his future career.BCFC

You'll find that is some of what i've said. I actually siad that i will support the team as always BUT IF others feel the need to voice their feelings at Tayloy then they have the right toi do so

lonniejockstrap wrote:

dannbradfc wrote:

ricky wrote:

Bingley Chicken wrote:

Betrescue Bob wrote: Thank God for small mercies! Can't believe the lunatic is staying for the game! I look forward to giving him a load of abuse on Saturday. Probably City's worst ever manager Good ridance to bad rubbish Time for a celebratory ale! John Hendrie in a Kenny Dalglish type capacity would be popular with Deano to gee the lads up - just not to pick the team or decide tactics

Look forward to giving him a load of abuse on Saturday. Nice to see a mature attitude! Whilst I thought it was the right appointment, I agree it hasn't worked and things had to change. I hope prospective managers don't judge the majority of fans and the club on juveniles who want to abuse the current man in charge. Any chance of the board making a statement as to their intentions. Are they looking for somebody to fill in for a couple of games pending an appointment, somebody till the end of the season then a lengthy interview process to get the right man or an imminent appointment for the long term with somebody already in mind?

Couldnt have put it better why be a manager of a club whose fans like to abuse them he is probably part of the chav gang down at vp

Wait a minute hasn't he abused us for the past year and a bit??

He has abused our eyes with the football we have had to endure.

he abused anyone who dare criticise him and called them B**stards.

THe ONLY reason he shouldn't be abused is for the sake of the players and the team. He knows this game is a biggie and one we should really win. he also knows that any dissent coming towards him probably won't happen because of the situation.

I believe in karmic law. he has abused us and will continue to abuse us indirectly with the squad, resources spent etc for some time so if anyone wnats to let him know how they feel i say do it.

You have surprised and disappointed me dann! I had you down as being bigger than those who will be salivating at the opportunity to abuse PT on Saturday. Do you really believe that it is right to encourage people to shout obscenities at him? You say you believe in 'Karmic Law' dann, are you sure? What you are encouraging amounts to promoting the violation of what is right and decent behaviour. What you are also promoting is hurt feelings in Peter Taylor as a human being along with hurting his families feelings. Thus you are encouraging people who carry out these attacks to also suffer 'bad' events in the future because of their unpleasant actions. Why do you want to increase bad vibrations and bad experiences into the Natural Law of the Universe? What you are encouraging is also against moral and religious standards. Encouraging people to abuse another person will not make the abusers any happier regardless of how much they delude themselves into thinking it will. Peter Taylor hasn't abused you and he hasn't abused me. Your expression of vindictiveness can only result in 'bad Karma' coming your way dann.

Nice one lonnie. What you say is true and i did feel bad when i used the word abuse.

However what i was doing was defending the right of an individual to express their view. Me, you and waynus had this debate before whereby we discussed how we may not agree but respect the fact that we are both able to do so and have the right to.

I perhaps should have stated more clearly that any 'abuse' (an unfortunate word that i borrowed from the earlier discussions) should be directed ONLY at his performance as a manager and not at the person.

Many on here have described Taylor has both arrogant, deluded and stubborn and i too have used these descriptions.

But i do not know him personally and would base any comments or feelings towards him purely in football terms. I have said in the past that i began to dislike him but STATED that this was only based on his own P'R' and comments to the press, interviews and whats was happening on and off the pitch. I don't know him as a human and one can argue that he has acheived greater things in life than myself so perhaps karmic law suggests he is good. (Howver this is based on a materially motivated world;) etc etc).

I have not stated anywhere that i will personally have a go at him but i repeat that if someone wants to they should be entitled to, just as others can thank him if that is there choosing.

I repeat we have all probably at some time shouted at ref's oppo players etc for perceived crimes against our team and i don't see this as any different.

PS anyone just shouting mindless or personal comments about taylor, his family etc will probably already feeling the effects of karmic law. Football comments only please.....

Bring Back McCall !!!

dannbradfc wrote:

Bingley Chicken wrote:

dannbradfc wrote:

Bingley Chicken wrote:

dannbradfc wrote:

ricky wrote:

Bingley Chicken wrote:

Betrescue Bob wrote: Thank God for small mercies! Can't believe the lunatic is staying for the game! I look forward to giving him a load of abuse on Saturday. Probably City's worst ever manager Good ridance to bad rubbish Time for a celebratory ale! John Hendrie in a Kenny Dalglish type capacity would be popular with Deano to gee the lads up - just not to pick the team or decide tactics

Look forward to giving him a load of abuse on Saturday. Nice to see a mature attitude! Whilst I thought it was the right appointment, I agree it hasn't worked and things had to change. I hope prospective managers don't judge the majority of fans and the club on juveniles who want to abuse the current man in charge. Any chance of the board making a statement as to their intentions. Are they looking for somebody to fill in for a couple of games pending an appointment, somebody till the end of the season then a lengthy interview process to get the right man or an imminent appointment for the long term with somebody already in mind?

Couldnt have put it better why be a manager of a club whose fans like to abuse them he is probably part of the chav gang down at vp

Wait a minute hasn't he abused us for the past year and a bit??

He has abused our eyes with the football we have had to endure.

he abused anyone who dare criticise him and called them B**stards.

THe ONLY reason he shouldn't be abused is for the sake of the players and the team. He knows this game is a biggie and one we should really win. he also knows that any dissent coming towards him probably won't happen because of the situation.

I believe in karmic law. he has abused us and will continue to abuse us indirectly with the squad, resources spent etc for some time so if anyone wnats to let him know how they feel i say do it.

I've set out the reason for not abusing PT above. Prisoner Cell Block A also makes a good point for not doing it.

Fact is i wouldn't want a new manager if he can't understand that the fans are upset about the way taylor has handled this season. Any watching mnagers will know that this is football.

Any person that we actually want, will see the crowd and think what it would be like to have them singing his name. We don't want a manger who can't handle that, simple.

So i say, say whatever you want to taylor but support the players

Anybody with a brain knows the supporters aren't happy. Abuse of the manager won't make that clearer, it's already crystal. If you feel the need to still abuse PT then feel free, it says more about you than just making your feelings clear.

Go on what does it say about me then?

SO what does it say about me then?
Don't just attempt to infer something and then not back it up. What does that say about you?

Your brain must be huge to able to work me out from what i've said.

Where have i said that i'm going to actually abuse him?
I have defended the right for people to do so which has a paying customer who is unhappy with what they receive they are entitiled to. Are you happy with the season? Are you gonna say "hardlines Peter the b**stards (to paraphrase taylor himself) don't know what there on about?

Comment on what i've said but don't project nor genearalise who or what i am because it may not agree with you. And make sure you read those comments correctly as inference is dangerous in the wrong hands

I could attempt to

My brain wouldn't be anywhere near as big as yours as you've worked out that anybody who sits in the Sunwin Stand sits on the fence and is a coward! I'm not happy with the season and think the end of PT's tenure is the correct decision. I do not think people have the right to abuse PT just because they are paying customers although they have the right to voice their opinions. You have gone from a thoughtful poster who made lucid and pertinent points to belligerent and aggressive. You do yourself a disservice.

Leave weathers in charge of the juniors. Jacobs and Lewis hopfully going after saturday-we don`t want windass anywere near the coaching-let him stay on sky!. My choice would be Alan Kniell from Bury at the end of the season but for now i`d go with Martin mad dog Allen, out of work and offered his services to the board before PT was made manager.

Dannbradfc, I note above your regret at using the word abuse which pretty much takes away the thread of this disagreement. I have said above that I agree people have the right to voice their opinion, just not abuse the object of their frustration.

LONNIE

I've re-read my posts as they were said in haste and excitement at the news. I I still haven't found anywhere where i've said that fans should personally abuse taylor.

I have often said that i'm not infalible and The use of the word abuse is unfoatunate but was taken from the earlier argument perhaps" pass comment on" would have been better;)

NOWHERE have i said that fans should swear or threaten Taylor but understand that the word abuse could contain this understanding.

You do say in your post that Taylor hasn't abused us but it could be argued that he had a go at waynus and the like and also the B**stards quote etc thats not forgetting what we have had to endure on the pitch;)

I apologise at not making things clearer and reiterate that comments aimed at Taylors management of our club should be in the context of football only but defend supporters right to be able to do this if they should feel the need.

There is a girl who sits near us who has been going about 8 years and every time any supporter gives abit of stick to a player or manager she stares at them for about 5 minutes. I guess she's a pandora's box type of person as even when we are playing abysmally she makes this big point of standing up and saying hard-lines. sadly i'm a bit passionate and get caught up in the game or moments. I've told ref's off with 'choice' words when he's made an injustice in my opinion. I don't then wish him bad things etc etc There is no difference between this and shouting at others be that taylor or whoever, it is hypocritical of anyone who has shouted at any player for instance to then have a go at anyone wanting to voice an opnion on Taylor.

If a chant Of we want taylor out had begun at Chesterfield i admit i would have joined in as it IS how i felt AND inoffensive. That is the basis of my defence of city fans to voice their opinion.

I stated above and will son again to those misunderstanding me. I intend to like every game go on saturday to cheer us on. I will most likely have a grumble about misplaced passes, or poor marking just like every week. i will also encourage and cheer them on just like every week. That will be my focus as well as hopefully enjoy the experience. I may join in a wave bye bye to taylor as well, but 'abuse' is not on my agenda....

SAF was clsoe to being sacked before thhings turned. It is hard to accept but managers need time.Iin this case perhaps it was best to part with PT as sometimes the honeymoon effect of a new manager is what is needed to turn things round.

yangy8 wrote:
blame the manager as usual, squad good enough to make play offs? don't make me laugh. usual cop out and bradford fans make me sick. i go every home game and all you get his moaning about players after 5mins. don't give em chance to get going and on there backs. away fans twice as good. anyone not wonder why daley went to rotherham and taylor not gone before now? money, we ant got any! can't afford to sack taylor so beg him to leave without having to pay out and sending daley to rotherham gets him off wage bill because ellison cheaper option. last person out shut the gates.............

we are in DIVISION 4 for gods sake. NOBODY has got any money.

however, why for the 4th consecutive year are we undone by the footballing trillionaires from accrington, bury, rochdale, aldershot, morecambe, lincoln etc etc etc etc etc

NOBODY has got money but we are 22nd out of 24. the lowest scorers in the whole football league (outside prem). its appalling.


football is a very simple game. stop making excuses for failure and pretending that others have anything more then us. THEY DO NOT. they just use it wiser.

Bingley Chicken wrote:

dannbradfc wrote:

Bingley Chicken wrote:

dannbradfc wrote:

Bingley Chicken wrote:

dannbradfc wrote:

ricky wrote:

Bingley Chicken wrote:

Betrescue Bob wrote: Thank God for small mercies! Can't believe the lunatic is staying for the game! I look forward to giving him a load of abuse on Saturday. Probably City's worst ever manager Good ridance to bad rubbish Time for a celebratory ale! John Hendrie in a Kenny Dalglish type capacity would be popular with Deano to gee the lads up - just not to pick the team or decide tactics

Look forward to giving him a load of abuse on Saturday. Nice to see a mature attitude! Whilst I thought it was the right appointment, I agree it hasn't worked and things had to change. I hope prospective managers don't judge the majority of fans and the club on juveniles who want to abuse the current man in charge. Any chance of the board making a statement as to their intentions. Are they looking for somebody to fill in for a couple of games pending an appointment, somebody till the end of the season then a lengthy interview process to get the right man or an imminent appointment for the long term with somebody already in mind?

Couldnt have put it better why be a manager of a club whose fans like to abuse them he is probably part of the chav gang down at vp

Wait a minute hasn't he abused us for the past year and a bit??

He has abused our eyes with the football we have had to endure.

he abused anyone who dare criticise him and called them B**stards.

THe ONLY reason he shouldn't be abused is for the sake of the players and the team. He knows this game is a biggie and one we should really win. he also knows that any dissent coming towards him probably won't happen because of the situation.

I believe in karmic law. he has abused us and will continue to abuse us indirectly with the squad, resources spent etc for some time so if anyone wnats to let him know how they feel i say do it.

I've set out the reason for not abusing PT above. Prisoner Cell Block A also makes a good point for not doing it.

Fact is i wouldn't want a new manager if he can't understand that the fans are upset about the way taylor has handled this season. Any watching mnagers will know that this is football.

Any person that we actually want, will see the crowd and think what it would be like to have them singing his name. We don't want a manger who can't handle that, simple.

So i say, say whatever you want to taylor but support the players

Anybody with a brain knows the supporters aren't happy. Abuse of the manager won't make that clearer, it's already crystal. If you feel the need to still abuse PT then feel free, it says more about you than just making your feelings clear.

Go on what does it say about me then?

SO what does it say about me then?
Don't just attempt to infer something and then not back it up. What does that say about you?

Your brain must be huge to able to work me out from what i've said.

Where have i said that i'm going to actually abuse him?
I have defended the right for people to do so which has a paying customer who is unhappy with what they receive they are entitiled to. Are you happy with the season? Are you gonna say "hardlines Peter the b**stards (to paraphrase taylor himself) don't know what there on about?

Comment on what i've said but don't project nor genearalise who or what i am because it may not agree with you. And make sure you read those comments correctly as inference is dangerous in the wrong hands

I could attempt to

My brain wouldn't be anywhere near as big as yours as you've worked out that anybody who sits in the Sunwin Stand sits on the fence and is a coward! I'm not happy with the season and think the end of PT's tenure is the correct decision. I do not think people have the right to abuse PT just because they are paying customers although they have the right to voice their opinions. You have gone from a thoughtful poster who made lucid and pertinent points to belligerent and aggressive. You do yourself a disservice.

I've stated my regret at using the word abuse as i know and understand its literal meaning. I only used this word as it was used in an earlier post and had not thought through how some may interpret it. I have stated however that people should have the right to voice their disgruntlement with him though, as he has had the opportunity to and has done so via the media.

The cowards comment was an over-generalisation also. I am fed up with people in this country merely accepting everything (but thats politics). I once when times were a bit harder had the opportunity of free tickets in the sunwin stand. I went twice i think but decided i'd rather pay in the kop as the experience FOR ME was not, well it wasn't an experience at all really. I used them as an example because although they may not wish to voice an opnion against someone they don't really do it for us neither. They barely make a sound at all. Is that support?
However thats their choice and i accept that also but then they should give the same right to others who wish to voice an opinion EVEN if it does not agree with theirs or is how they would express it.

Abuse is wrong but i repeat thats not want i meant nor intend to do. But just as i judge taylor purely on football terms you should not attempt to infer something on me based on what? You still haven't explained what you were trying to say about me 'cos it isn't so clear as you suggest. My response earlier is that you were making a disguised personnal comment with negative undertones that is neither relavant nor deserved. I still am unclear what you were trying to say but if it was based on my usage of the word abuse then so be it.

Dannbradfc, I was simply pointing out that resorting to abuse says plenty about the person casting it. Meaning a lack of thought for the person and intelligence as nothing constructive can be thought of. Upon again reading your post, at your request, I accept that you weren't saying you would abuse PT and anything I inferred in your direction was misplaced. I apologise. However I do stand by the point that anybody rebelling in giving abuse, the post that started this off, is small minded, petty and probably lacking in IQ. By the way, NOT WINDASS. CTID.

The best news all season, we can now get on with fully supporting the team on Saturday to a much needed 3 points.
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I wanted Taylor out as much as anybody, but abuse towards him on Saturday is neither called for or needed, we got what we wanted now let's move on!
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I've heard Peter Jackson or Alan Knill will take over, although my preference would be Martin Allen (I wanted him when Taylor got the job).
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Hopefully this announcement along with the ultra-cheap tickets will get the stay-aways back for Saturday.
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COME ON CITY!

dannbradfc wrote:
LONNIE

I've re-read my posts as they were said in haste and excitement at the news. I I still haven't found anywhere where i've said that fans should personally abuse taylor.

I have often said that i'm not infalible and The use of the word abuse is unfoatunate but was taken from the earlier argument perhaps" pass comment on" would have been better;)

NOWHERE have i said that fans should swear or threaten Taylor but understand that the word abuse could contain this understanding.

You do say in your post that Taylor hasn't abused us but it could be argued that he had a go at waynus and the like and also the B**stards quote etc thats not forgetting what we have had to endure on the pitch;)

I apologise at not making things clearer and reiterate that comments aimed at Taylors management of our club should be in the context of football only but defend supporters right to be able to do this if they should feel the need.

There is a girl who sits near us who has been going about 8 years and every time any supporter gives abit of stick to a player or manager she stares at them for about 5 minutes. I guess she's a pandora's box type of person as even when we are playing abysmally she makes this big point of standing up and saying hard-lines. sadly i'm a bit passionate and get caught up in the game or moments. I've told ref's off with 'choice' words when he's made an injustice in my opinion. I don't then wish him bad things etc etc There is no difference between this and shouting at others be that taylor or whoever, it is hypocritical of anyone who has shouted at any player for instance to then have a go at anyone wanting to voice an opnion on Taylor.

If a chant Of we want taylor out had begun at Chesterfield i admit i would have joined in as it IS how i felt AND inoffensive. That is the basis of my defence of city fans to voice their opinion.

I stated above and will son again to those misunderstanding me. I intend to like every game go on saturday to cheer us on. I will most likely have a grumble about misplaced passes, or poor marking just like every week. i will also encourage and cheer them on just like every week. That will be my focus as well as hopefully enjoy the experience. I may join in a wave bye bye to taylor as well, but 'abuse' is not on my agenda....

Maybe it's just me dann, but I will find it extremely embarrassing, nay, I will feel deeply ashamed as a Bradford born and bred Bradford City supporter if I have to witness supporters waving 'bye bye', or any other attempt at humiliating, Peter Taylor. Can we not for once provide something positive for 'outsiders' to read about? Why can't we just thank Peter Taylor for trying in a job where many others have also 'failed'. Are BCFC supporters REALLY going to be so petty, so immature, so nasty and spiteful that I am going to have to witness -along with possibly many 'new' supporters- what, in essence, will be a type of mass psychosis whereby supporters experience satisfaction out of publicly humiliating the bloke.
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Dann! what has got into you? That type of treatment of another human being who has tremendous respect in the PROFESSIONAL world of football at ALL levels would be appalling! I will be disgusted if that happens and will feel greatly ashamed as a supporter of Bradford the City and Bradford City Football Club if the rest of the football world -at least- watch on TV, here on the Radio and read in the papers about how small minded and vindictive our supporters behaved. The thought of it makes me sick to the stomach. The bloke is LEAVING isn't that enough for those that wanted him out?

lonniejockstrap wrote:

dannbradfc wrote:
LONNIE

I've re-read my posts as they were said in haste and excitement at the news. I I still haven't found anywhere where i've said that fans should personally abuse taylor.

I have often said that i'm not infalible and The use of the word abuse is unfoatunate but was taken from the earlier argument perhaps" pass comment on" would have been better;)

NOWHERE have i said that fans should swear or threaten Taylor but understand that the word abuse could contain this understanding.

You do say in your post that Taylor hasn't abused us but it could be argued that he had a go at waynus and the like and also the B**stards quote etc thats not forgetting what we have had to endure on the pitch;)

I apologise at not making things clearer and reiterate that comments aimed at Taylors management of our club should be in the context of football only but defend supporters right to be able to do this if they should feel the need.

There is a girl who sits near us who has been going about 8 years and every time any supporter gives abit of stick to a player or manager she stares at them for about 5 minutes. I guess she's a pandora's box type of person as even when we are playing abysmally she makes this big point of standing up and saying hard-lines. sadly i'm a bit passionate and get caught up in the game or moments. I've told ref's off with 'choice' words when he's made an injustice in my opinion. I don't then wish him bad things etc etc There is no difference between this and shouting at others be that taylor or whoever, it is hypocritical of anyone who has shouted at any player for instance to then have a go at anyone wanting to voice an opnion on Taylor.

If a chant Of we want taylor out had begun at Chesterfield i admit i would have joined in as it IS how i felt AND inoffensive. That is the basis of my defence of city fans to voice their opinion.

I stated above and will son again to those misunderstanding me. I intend to like every game go on saturday to cheer us on. I will most likely have a grumble about misplaced passes, or poor marking just like every week. i will also encourage and cheer them on just like every week. That will be my focus as well as hopefully enjoy the experience. I may join in a wave bye bye to taylor as well, but 'abuse' is not on my agenda....

Maybe it's just me dann, but I will find it extremely embarrassing, nay, I will feel deeply ashamed as a Bradford born and bred Bradford City supporter if I have to witness supporters waving 'bye bye', or any other attempt at humiliating, Peter Taylor. Can we not for once provide something positive for 'outsiders' to read about? Why can't we just thank Peter Taylor for trying in a job where many others have also 'failed'. Are BCFC supporters REALLY going to be so petty, so immature, so nasty and spiteful that I am going to have to witness -along with possibly many 'new' supporters- what, in essence, will be a type of mass psychosis whereby supporters experience satisfaction out of publicly humiliating the bloke.
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Dann! what has got into you? That type of treatment of another human being who has tremendous respect in the PROFESSIONAL world of football at ALL levels would be appalling! I will be disgusted if that happens and will feel greatly ashamed as a supporter of Bradford the City and Bradford City Football Club if the rest of the football world -at least- watch on TV, here on the Radio and read in the papers about how small minded and vindictive our supporters behaved. The thought of it makes me sick to the stomach. The bloke is LEAVING isn't that enough for those that wanted him out?

So waving bye-bye is an offence now as well? Perhaps yous hould get a job working for the human rights commision lonnie;)

Can you say to me that you have never said a bad word about an official, opposition player, mindless supporters etc in the past? And if so well done but i find anyone emotionally involved in football has probably cussed and moaned in that way at some stage.

And before you come over all pious Lonnie i know from comments that you have STATED on here to the likes of waynus,macca and Shaun etc that you are not so innocent.

Othe rposters have re-read and uderstood my initial comments and accepted my apologies for the misunderstanding. I have explained this to you but it i now have the feeling that you are feel you have finally got something attack me with. That may not be so but it just feels that you are over-emphasising this issue.

Another point is that taylor has not afforded us the same respect you are demanding from some supporters do you not agree. A wave is inoffensive but i am glad to see the back of him, so may do this if i feel the need to. Its hardly sick to the stomach stuff. think Fatbloke alluded to the fact that taylor may have made gestures to someone from the touchlines on Tuesday. Is this acceptable??

I understand and accept your feelings to a point and if someone was threatening to attack taylor or calling him unecessary and unjustified remarks then thatb is wrong. Much of what is said and done in football is pantomime stuff and the ACTUAL INTENT is non existent. i admired your staunch defence of the guy even when it was becoming clear it was all going horribly wrong and had it gone the other way and taylor had recovered us on the way to glory there would have been the opportunity to make all and sundry eat humble pie if that was your wish. However you should hardly be surprised that some people will be very glad to see the back of him. yes others have failed before and will do so again but not necessarily in such a manner e.g. negative way and without attempting to change a failing stance, or style.

I've a feeling that Taylor may wave bye-bye to us as well, so should i be or will you be offended if he does?

t could be like the night-night scene in the sound of music;)

Bingley Chicken wrote:
Dannbradfc, I was simply pointing out that resorting to abuse says plenty about the person casting it. Meaning a lack of thought for the person and intelligence as nothing constructive can be thought of. Upon again reading your post, at your request, I accept that you weren't saying you would abuse PT and anything I inferred in your direction was misplaced. I apologise. However I do stand by the point that anybody rebelling in giving abuse, the post that started this off, is small minded, petty and probably lacking in IQ. By the way, NOT WINDASS. CTID.

Fair enough and thanks for that. I admit i opened myself up to misinterpretation

LONNIE

As for been embarrased and "ashamed" 'nationally' via tv didn't that happen at the Port Vale game?

I was personally embarrased watching it and was informed via text etc by neutral football fans and friends how useless we were, how our football was negative and boring and that we were basically rubbish and more. That as i say was a national experience and not very nice one. In fact one i was ashamed of by association. See its karma in effect.....

Sorry Dann, but I have followed this thread all day with intrigue and disappointment. Firstly, NO City fan will be happy with the season and the way we have performed. Do you think Taylor set out to ruin our season? It hasn't worked out and he has been stubborn in not changing his previously successful tactics. At the end of the day, those decisions have meant he failed.
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HOWEVER, I do not agree with those that want to 'abuse' him or whatever word they wish to use. Peter Taylor has failed and has effectively ruined our season and possibly the next one too, due to our financial situation. However, he has finally decided things aren't going to improve under us and agreed to stand down. he could have gone yesterday, but the joint Chairmen asked him to stay on for one more game. HE AGREED!!!!!
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Is that worthy of being 'abused', 'heckled' or sarcastically waved at? The majority of our fans have got their wish....can we not just now turn this into something positive and SUPPORT the team instead of turning on the EX-manager?????
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You also claim to have been misunderstood with your wording. I know how easy this is. However, having read some of your comments (in direct response to others that were CLEARLY wanting to 'ABUSE' Taylor), I just can't agree it was misunderstood.
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You haven't said you will directly 'abuse' Taylor, but you were quoted as saying;
"all these fans sitting on the fence and won't have-a go"
"I say support the team but give Taylor EVERYTHING you want on Saturday be that abuse or an 'hardlines Mr. Taylor' "
"So i say, say WHATEVER you want to taylor".
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I have never been 'personal' towards McCall as I don't know him and can only judge him on what he has done as a player throughout his career. However, I do recall getting some very ugly stick from you the moment I referred to him, for his tactical decisions, as "McClueless"...! So, I was berated by you (and others) for calling him Clueless, but you are condoning worse towards Taylor...!
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We have had our disagreements over the years, but this has disappointed me with your comments.
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It hasn't worked out for him. We are all disappointed (inc Taylor), so lets just concentrate on supporting those that will still be there after Saturday instead of thinking up ways of riddiculing those that won't be.

dannbradfc wrote:

lonniejockstrap wrote:

dannbradfc wrote:
LONNIE

I've re-read my posts as they were said in haste and excitement at the news. I I still haven't found anywhere where i've said that fans should personally abuse taylor.

I have often said that i'm not infalible and The use of the word abuse is unfoatunate but was taken from the earlier argument perhaps" pass comment on" would have been better;)

NOWHERE have i said that fans should swear or threaten Taylor but understand that the word abuse could contain this understanding.

You do say in your post that Taylor hasn't abused us but it could be argued that he had a go at waynus and the like and also the B**stards quote etc thats not forgetting what we have had to endure on the pitch;)

I apologise at not making things clearer and reiterate that comments aimed at Taylors management of our club should be in the context of football only but defend supporters right to be able to do this if they should feel the need.

There is a girl who sits near us who has been going about 8 years and every time any supporter gives abit of stick to a player or manager she stares at them for about 5 minutes. I guess she's a pandora's box type of person as even when we are playing abysmally she makes this big point of standing up and saying hard-lines. sadly i'm a bit passionate and get caught up in the game or moments. I've told ref's off with 'choice' words when he's made an injustice in my opinion. I don't then wish him bad things etc etc There is no difference between this and shouting at others be that taylor or whoever, it is hypocritical of anyone who has shouted at any player for instance to then have a go at anyone wanting to voice an opnion on Taylor.

If a chant Of we want taylor out had begun at Chesterfield i admit i would have joined in as it IS how i felt AND inoffensive. That is the basis of my defence of city fans to voice their opinion.

I stated above and will son again to those misunderstanding me. I intend to like every game go on saturday to cheer us on. I will most likely have a grumble about misplaced passes, or poor marking just like every week. i will also encourage and cheer them on just like every week. That will be my focus as well as hopefully enjoy the experience. I may join in a wave bye bye to taylor as well, but 'abuse' is not on my agenda....

Maybe it's just me dann, but I will find it extremely embarrassing, nay, I will feel deeply ashamed as a Bradford born and bred Bradford City supporter if I have to witness supporters waving 'bye bye', or any other attempt at humiliating, Peter Taylor. Can we not for once provide something positive for 'outsiders' to read about? Why can't we just thank Peter Taylor for trying in a job where many others have also 'failed'. Are BCFC supporters REALLY going to be so petty, so immature, so nasty and spiteful that I am going to have to witness -along with possibly many 'new' supporters- what, in essence, will be a type of mass psychosis whereby supporters experience satisfaction out of publicly humiliating the bloke.
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Dann! what has got into you? That type of treatment of another human being who has tremendous respect in the PROFESSIONAL world of football at ALL levels would be appalling! I will be disgusted if that happens and will feel greatly ashamed as a supporter of Bradford the City and Bradford City Football Club if the rest of the football world -at least- watch on TV, here on the Radio and read in the papers about how small minded and vindictive our supporters behaved. The thought of it makes me sick to the stomach. The bloke is LEAVING isn't that enough for those that wanted him out?

So waving bye-bye is an offence now as well? Perhaps yous hould get a job working for the human rights commision lonnie;)

Can you say to me that you have never said a bad word about an official, opposition player, mindless supporters etc in the past? And if so well done but i find anyone emotionally involved in football has probably cussed and moaned in that way at some stage.

And before you come over all pious Lonnie i know from comments that you have STATED on here to the likes of waynus,macca and Shaun etc that you are not so innocent.

Othe rposters have re-read and uderstood my initial comments and accepted my apologies for the misunderstanding. I have explained this to you but it i now have the feeling that you are feel you have finally got something attack me with. That may not be so but it just feels that you are over-emphasising this issue.

Another point is that taylor has not afforded us the same respect you are demanding from some supporters do you not agree. A wave is inoffensive but i am glad to see the back of him, so may do this if i feel the need to. Its hardly sick to the stomach stuff. think Fatbloke alluded to the fact that taylor may have made gestures to someone from the touchlines on Tuesday. Is this acceptable??

I understand and accept your feelings to a point and if someone was threatening to attack taylor or calling him unecessary and unjustified remarks then thatb is wrong. Much of what is said and done in football is pantomime stuff and the ACTUAL INTENT is non existent. i admired your staunch defence of the guy even when it was becoming clear it was all going horribly wrong and had it gone the other way and taylor had recovered us on the way to glory there would have been the opportunity to make all and sundry eat humble pie if that was your wish. However you should hardly be surprised that some people will be very glad to see the back of him. yes others have failed before and will do so again but not necessarily in such a manner e.g. negative way and without attempting to change a failing stance, or style.

I've a feeling that Taylor may wave bye-bye to us as well, so should i be or will you be offended if he does?

t could be like the night-night scene in the sound of music;)

Dann, I think we both know in what context you meant the 'wave bye bye' was meant! And I'd have expected you to be able to appreciate the difference between posters insulting and abusing each other whilst remaining anonymous by means of 'usernames' and the possibility of thousands of people abusing and humiliating Peter Taylor as an individual. If you are saying that your previous posts tonight were meant to be supportive of treating Peter Taylor in a respectful way on Saturday then have misunderstood you. If you are being light-hearted in your posts then I would say that some readers will likely be tempted to 'wave bye bye' in a far from friendly intention. No It's not an offence to wave dann even with a very disrespectful motive behind that wave, but if you can't see or refuse to see the point I am making then that's a shame.

So the fact that you are stepping down Peter means you have waived the right to any compensation, that's good of you. Think we'll have to see on that one!

I think Saturday's result will have a large bearing on what type of managerial appointment will be made.

In an ideal scenario we beat Stockport, Barnet don't win, and we are 9 points ahead of the relegation places, which bides us some time. I can almost hear the howls of derision as I type this, but in this circumstance, because it will be the cheap option, Jacobs should be given a few games to try and prove himself, with a view to him continuing until the end of the season if he does okay.

I've certainly got my doubts about him, as like McCall I think he is too nice to be a manager, but then again I don't remember many people approving of Jewell's appointment when he replaced Kamara.

If we are looking for or need to make a long term appointment, then to me the 2 outstanding out of work candidates are Gary Johnson and Andy Scott.

Mutual agreemenrt I think 1908, which possibly indicates an agreed pay-off, maybe after the season so as only to take up one manager's wage. He may be more Honourable than we all think, leaving a team that has been training a certain way all week and then changing it on a Thursday could be catastrophic. I for one am not sad to see him leave but am glad he didn't just walk away. Let the man have dignity, he just failed at a job for some reasons, some out of his control, some within his control but I doubt he came with this present state in mind.
Bye P Taylor the Hun, it wasn't meant to be.

dannbradfc wrote:

BD16 wrote:

dannbradfc wrote:

Betrescue Bob wrote: Apologies. Quite right. Everyone should say, never mind old chap, you can't win them all. No hard feelings in producing the worst football and the worst results for over thirty years. You have, after all, had five promotions by George and despite no one wanting you at the club for the past two months, many a lot longer, you choose to stick by the sinking ship for one last hoorar. You have spent much of your time this season slagging off your players and the fans and after taking us into the re-election zone you deserve nothing more than a slap on the back and a good luck wish. I'll be there cheering on the team of course, but will also be juvenile in my jeering the clown prince who has got us into this mess through his poor signings, shocking tactics and incredulous attitude. He could of course do every one a favour and avoid further embarrassment by not turning up, which surely serves no purpose whatsoever. Charlie would be better on the touchline. One considers oneself told off and sent to the naughty corner.

Well said. There's too many cowards amongst the city fans. By this i mean there are all these fans sitting on the fence and won't have-a go safe in the knowledge that one day the team wins a game. I cheer my team on, i offer praise when its due and encouragement when its also due and deserved but i won't accept a lack of effort from players or poor management which is what taylor is basewd on what i have witnessed at our club. One only needs to look at the Sunwin stand for this type of supporter. There's more life at the local bingo venue. I say support the team but give Taylor everything you want on Saturday be that abuse or an "hardlines Mr. Taylor it just wasn't meant to be. here shake my hand whilst you have delivered a seasons worth of poor entertainment and medicrity. I've seen more passion in Diouf's spit.....

What's cowardly in thinking that he shouldn't be abused? The bloke has had success at other clubs and most of us thought that he would do it here as well. It hasn't worked out and the correct decision has been made. What's cowardly in having a bit of dignity and realising that sometimes things aren't meant to be?

By cowardly i mean that some people never express their true opinions about things. They accept the status-quo or whats given to them without having the gonads to speak out. Letting someone know how you feel can still be dignified. Have you ever shouted at the ref or an opposition player? or do you say oh well referee you may have got that penalty decision completely wrong but i guess that it just didn't work out? Are you a magistrate;)? Taylor has had the opportunity to voice his opinion, mostly unwisely so about the fans. He has asked one on this very site to get a life;) called anyone who disagrees with him b**stards etc he has commented on his own individual players in what couild be described as an undignified manner. Do you think he treated Rehman in a dignified manner, for instance? My point is that if fans are unhappy they should be allowed to let Peter know their feelings negative or otherwise. Indeed there is nothing wrong with you shouting your support for Taylor if you want. Its your choice. In fact why don't you start a chant of Peter Taylor's Bradford Army. I would be very dignified in letting you do so.

"THe ONLY reason he shouldn't be abused is for the sake of the players and the team." Your own words Dann. Am I to take it that if it weren't for the players he should be abused? Thats what you said anyway. I have vented frustration at refs on many occasions, but abuse?
And the famous "bas***ds" comment. This is a turn of phrase, a figure of speech, and shouldn't be taken literally as it is used for self motivation rather than abuse. I think some people have misinterpreted this either deliberately or because they are stupid.
I think the fact that you seem to have spent so much time writing posts attempting to defend your earlier comments should tell you something.
As I said earlier, I think it's the right decision for Peter Taylor to go, but he hasn't done a bad job deliberatley and we all knew what his style of football would be before he started. The only thing that hasn't happened is that he was unable to replicate what he has done elsewhere here. Is that worth abusing Dann?

Can't believe some of the tosh posted on here in regards to Taylor,he's going,good luck to the fella,he hasn't over stayed his welcome and hasn't left us in the lurch in regards to the Stockport game,yeah the league position is dire so he's doing the honorable thing and resigning,that action does not deserve any sort of disrespectful actions by misguided BCFC fans before during or after the Stockport game.I repeat the only people i'll be having a pop at is the opposition and officials.BCFC needs the points on Saturday,support the team and yes the manager and getting those points will be alot easier,surely you don't have to be a member of mensa to work that out. CTID

Ok, so the sensible ones amongst us agree firing off abuse is not going to help or make anyone feel better, may I add that sniping at individual posters isn't going to help either. Dann, made a couple of daft statements, not on his own this season, let's move on.

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
Ok, so the sensible ones amongst us agree firing off abuse is not going to help or make anyone feel better, may I add that sniping at individual posters isn't going to help either. Dann, made a couple of daft statements, not on his own this season, let's move on.

Not meaning to come across as being pedantic, but surely by the phrase, "the sensible ones amongst us" is also "sniping at individual posters".. LOL.
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Besides, I'm sure Dann would agree, he gives as good (if not better) back when others make 'mistakes'.

Waynus71 wrote:
Sorry Dann, but I have followed this thread all day with intrigue and disappointment. Firstly, NO City fan will be happy with the season and the way we have performed. Do you think Taylor set out to ruin our season? It hasn't worked out and he has been stubborn in not changing his previously successful tactics. At the end of the day, those decisions have meant he failed.
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HOWEVER, I do not agree with those that want to 'abuse' him or whatever word they wish to use. Peter Taylor has failed and has effectively ruined our season and possibly the next one too, due to our financial situation. However, he has finally decided things aren't going to improve under us and agreed to stand down. he could have gone yesterday, but the joint Chairmen asked him to stay on for one more game. HE AGREED!!!!!
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Is that worthy of being 'abused', 'heckled' or sarcastically waved at? The majority of our fans have got their wish....can we not just now turn this into something positive and SUPPORT the team instead of turning on the EX-manager?????
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You also claim to have been misunderstood with your wording. I know how easy this is. However, having read some of your comments (in direct response to others that were CLEARLY wanting to 'ABUSE' Taylor), I just can't agree it was misunderstood.
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You haven't said you will directly 'abuse' Taylor, but you were quoted as saying;
"all these fans sitting on the fence and won't have-a go"
"I say support the team but give Taylor EVERYTHING you want on Saturday be that abuse or an 'hardlines Mr. Taylor' "
"So i say, say WHATEVER you want to taylor".
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I have never been 'personal' towards McCall as I don't know him and can only judge him on what he has done as a player throughout his career. However, I do recall getting some very ugly stick from you the moment I referred to him, for his tactical decisions, as "McClueless"...! So, I was berated by you (and others) for calling him Clueless, but you are condoning worse towards Taylor...!
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We have had our disagreements over the years, but this has disappointed me with your comments.
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It hasn't worked out for him. We are all disappointed (inc Taylor), so lets just concentrate on supporting those that will still be there after Saturday instead of thinking up ways of riddiculing those that won't be.

I'm actually getting bored of repeating this now but read my first post. Its a response to others debate who used the term abuse. I used that word but NOWHERE did i say that was my intention. I still stand by those who wish to 'have a go' and those who don't. Its their choice and that was and still is my point. Apart from echoing the word used by others i was referring too this is a non-event even after you have seemingly 'scrutinised' my posts to attempt to find something indeed anything to throw at me.....

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Touche waynus.

Can we stop these long rambling posts? Lonnie wants to disect everything anyone he disagrees with states.

Shaun and Tyker get all their points over in short posts.

Roy keane is seeking employment. Let's go get him he can't be any worse than Taylor.

neverthetwain wrote:
Roy keane is seeking employment. Let's go get him he can't be any worse than Taylor.

I think that you will find that Roy Keane is a multi-millionaire and will not work for practically nothing.....good idea but not financially viable I am afraid.

The long rambling posts are fine, it is the continual quoting which is painful. Use @ if addressing someone and make it more readable for all, please :)

Well I'm only going so i can wave goodbye with two fingers in the air. I will refrain till the final whistle though. Ooh I'm such a bad person. As for you Waynus you talk total tosh I've stood at the side of you hurling abuse at Stuart, posting it and so on. Slagging off fans for the sos campaign. At the end of the day Stuart looks like a top international coach next to this idiot who you have tried to prop up for far too long. Goodbye Mr Taylor and good riddence to a waste of space.

Yeah,the less said about that above the better lol,i've just got the stats in from Mexico old lad,seems like there's been a bit of bullsh*t being spouted by you big fella...here are the real figures..

overall Daley started 99 games
w 34 d 23 L 42
34.34 23.23 42.42

overall Daley didn't feature or start 84 League games..
w 27 d 24 L33
32.14 28.57 39.29

overall 2nd division record..Daley started 86 league games...

w 33 d 20 L 33
38.37 23.26 38.37

2nd division games Daley didn't feature in or start 80 league games..

w 26 d 22 L 32
32.5 27.5 40.00

Games Daley started under Taylor as manager..20

w 8 d 3 L 9
40.00 15.00 45.00

Games Daley didn't feature in or start under Taylor as manager 26

w 9 d 5 L 12
34.62 19.23 46.15

BCFC's league record this season when Daley started his 17 league games...

w 7 d 1 L 9
41.18 5.88 52.94

BCFC's record when Daley didn't feature or start 11 league games this season...

w 2 d 3 L6
18.18 27.27 54.55

It seems to me that which ever way you look at these stats BCFC win more games when Omar Daley starts games for the club,need i say more,i'll be basking in the glory come Saturday in the Harp,lights cigar lol...CTID

Well at least you went to the trouble of backing up what you said. Still in my opinion he was lazy if at times even if in the odd game brilliant. I don't think he has been the same player since injury rarely taking on his man and using his pace. This as i said to Dann could be down to Taylor and his negative tactics or just the player himself had given up. As for the stats Waynus provided them not myself and when you study yours as well as Waynus's stats they is very little between wins and losses proving not a very lot to be honest. We will all have our opinions on daley mine may have been strong at the time and i will not waiver but maybe it was more to do with the frustration of all things Taylor who at least has now done the decent thing. Omar though is no longer a city player so i won't be wasting my time on him any longer, he won't be back as we can't afford his wages, i only replied to acknowledge you backing your statement up. I haven't researched it myself or would i but obviously yours or Waynus's stats are not the same but both really show not a lot of difference whether he played or not.

macca1969 wrote:
Well at least you went to the trouble of backing up what you said. Still in my opinion he was lazy if at times even if in the odd game brilliant. I don't think he has been the same player since injury rarely taking on his man and using his pace. This as i said to Dann could be down to Taylor and his negative tactics or just the player himself had given up. As for the stats Waynus provided them not myself and when you study yours as well as Waynus's stats they is very little between wins and losses proving not a very lot to be honest. We will all have our opinions on daley mine may have been strong at the time and i will not waiver but maybe it was more to do with the frustration of all things Taylor who at least has now done the decent thing. Omar though is no longer a city player so i won't be wasting my time on him any longer, he won't be back as we can't afford his wages, i only replied to acknowledge you backing your statement up. I haven't researched it myself or would i but obviously yours or Waynus's stats are not the same but both really show not a lot of difference whether he played or not.

There's no way Daley would give up,yeah i'm sure Taylor's tactics didn't do any of the attacking players any favours.I don't believe it's a waste my time defending a player who i believe has been unjustly maligned.I don't agree that Daley could be gone on a permanent basis,it's probable, because Lawn isn't a fan of Daley either, but who knows ..with a new manager coming in he could be back.He's certainly a match winner,someone we need badly. I didn't do the research ..a relation of mine did.Take it easy,and let's have three points today.CTID

bcfc1903 wrote:

macca1969 wrote:
Well at least you went to the trouble of backing up what you said. Still in my opinion he was lazy if at times even if in the odd game brilliant. I don't think he has been the same player since injury rarely taking on his man and using his pace. This as i said to Dann could be down to Taylor and his negative tactics or just the player himself had given up. As for the stats Waynus provided them not myself and when you study yours as well as Waynus's stats they is very little between wins and losses proving not a very lot to be honest. We will all have our opinions on daley mine may have been strong at the time and i will not waiver but maybe it was more to do with the frustration of all things Taylor who at least has now done the decent thing. Omar though is no longer a city player so i won't be wasting my time on him any longer, he won't be back as we can't afford his wages, i only replied to acknowledge you backing your statement up. I haven't researched it myself or would i but obviously yours or Waynus's stats are not the same but both really show not a lot of difference whether he played or not.

There's no way Daley would give up,yeah i'm sure Taylor's tactics didn't do any of the attacking players any favours.I don't believe it's a waste my time defending a player who i believe has been unjustly maligned.I don't agree that Daley could be gone on a permanent basis,it's probable, because Lawn isn't a fan of Daley either, but who knows ..with a new manager coming in he could be back.He's certainly a match winner,someone we need badly. I didn't do the research ..a relation of mine did.Take it easy,and let's have three points today.CTID

Fair points and also you enjoy the game, should be a cracking atmosphere if as expected extra thousands show they support