St Hilaire hails Finigan's potential (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)

Players like him and Addy are ideal to play till the end of the season. it will inspire them to go the extra mile and they will also learn and get any errors out early doors.

“Vinny’s quicker than what you’re seeing but I think he’s scared of making the error of trying to take someone on the outside and getting thrown into touch.

Shows why you will never be a head coach St H with a dopey comment like that, he isn't scared like Sheriffe, it is purely naivety and inexperience and only TWO games!! He has done it plenty of times in the reserves and will I feel in the first team given the opportunity and the ball to do it with.

On another point, Worrincey was at Halifax last night with Greg Eastwood from Leeds, hopefully Worrincey there to watch team he could be with next season!

Cracking game with a Origin style brawl at the end!!

Bulls could do lot worse than to grab Royston and Paterson for our squad for next year, I would play them in front of quite a few of our first teamers!

So 20 is a bit late to come in and for Southernwood 18 is a bit early. Looks like its answered all our arguments. The kids play when they are 19..problem solved!
On a sensible note..I said it before Finigan is the first player at Bulls to actually look like a winger since Semi left. Who knows how good he will be? he is a slight build but he has pace and his vision to get up off the ground and score that try against HKR when more experienced players had stopped, was I thought spot on.
I just hope this "one for the future" type comment from Lee doesn't mean he'll be replaced by Sherriffe this week.

Gumshoe wrote:
“Vinny’s quicker than what you’re seeing but I think he’s scared of making the error of trying to take someone on the outside and getting thrown into touch. Shows why you will never be a head coach St H with a dopey comment like that, he isn't scared like Sheriffe, it is purely naivety and inexperience and only TWO games!! He has done it plenty of times in the reserves and will I feel in the first team given the opportunity and the ball to do it with. On another point, Worrincey was at Halifax last night with Greg Eastwood from Leeds, hopefully Worrincey there to watch team he could be with next season! Cracking game with a Origin style brawl at the end!! Bulls could do lot worse than to grab Royston and Paterson for our squad for next year, I would play them in front of quite a few of our first teamers!

To be honest, I can see St Hilaire's point. I'd rather see him just back himself, sprint and take the outside route. If he gets tackled, he gets tackled...but like you said Gumshoe, that comes with experience in a match situation. My only question is where has he been all season? We've needed a finisher all season and only now, when we're already out of it, does he get a chance.

Haitch, He meant that he hadn’t started properly training with the Bulls till he was 20 – not that 20 was late to get into the first team. Most clubs pick up kids as young teenagers so that when they get into the first team they have been with the club for many years. Finigan has only recently started training with us. I think that is what he meant.

Adey wrote:

Gumshoe wrote: “Vinny’s quicker than what you’re seeing but I think he’s scared of making the error of trying to take someone on the outside and getting thrown into touch. Shows why you will never be a head coach St H with a dopey comment like that, he isn't scared like Sheriffe, it is purely naivety and inexperience and only TWO games!! He has done it plenty of times in the reserves and will I feel in the first team given the opportunity and the ball to do it with. On another point, Worrincey was at Halifax last night with Greg Eastwood from Leeds, hopefully Worrincey there to watch team he could be with next season! Cracking game with a Origin style brawl at the end!! Bulls could do lot worse than to grab Royston and Paterson for our squad for next year, I would play them in front of quite a few of our first teamers!

To be honest, I can see St Hilaire's point. I'd rather see him just back himself, sprint and take the outside route. If he gets tackled, he gets tackled...but like you said Gumshoe, that comes with experience in a match situation. My only question is where has he been all season? We've needed a finisher all season and only now, when we're already out of it, does he get a chance.

The words POOR, HEAD and COACH spring to mind Adey with regards to your question. As he has done in his time at the club, Mac stuck with players who were clearly not good enough and not doing their job whereas if he had given a few of them a chance earlier then maybe like Whitehead, Addy etc Vinny could have been a regular first teamer at this stage. Guaranteed other clubs like Wigan and Saints would have tried it and if worked then stuck with it!!

Prycey wrote:
Haitch, He meant that he hadn’t started properly training with the Bulls till he was 20 – not that 20 was late to get into the first team. Most clubs pick up kids as young teenagers so that when they get into the first team they have been with the club for many years. Finigan has only recently started training with us. I think that is what he meant.

Don't worry about it Prycey!.

St Hillaire forgot to mention the following about finnigan...every little helps.

unrelated stuff and sorry to all for stoking the fire but dave parker on the sun web site claiming that orford is to talk to canberra raiders next week about 2 year deal and the magic week-end is going back to cardiff in febuary

blue marlin wrote:
unrelated stuff and sorry to all for stoking the fire but dave parker on the sun web site claiming that orford is to talk to canberra raiders next week about 2 year deal and the magic week-end is going back to cardiff in febuary

Looks like we've got competition from Huddersfield for Will Sharp's signature as well.

interesting quotes from willie mason today as he wants to head to super league. there are 5 clubs interested. hull kr, giants, dragons, bulls, and salford.

it says a lot when he has dismissed bulls, salford, and catalans saying that he doesnt want to join a team likely to loose by 30 -40 points every week!!!!

how the mighty have fallen

gordon ramsay wrote:
interesting quotes from willie mason today as he wants to head to super league. there are 5 clubs interested. hull kr, giants, dragons, bulls, and salford.

it says a lot when he has dismissed bulls, salford, and catalans saying that he doesnt want to join a team likely to loose by 30 -40 points every week!!!!

how the mighty have fallen

No offence, but if Willie Mason signed for Bradford, I wouldn't be going back there! The guy is just one big ego, overrated and he only says this clap-trap to boost his options elsewhere. I hope he signs for Giants or Hull KR because it's odds-on that he'll be the biggest waste of money Super League has ever seen.

If mason says the Bulls have made contact in relation to signing him we must have a place coming free next year. I wonder who is leaving. Menzies or Orford – possibly both?

Adey wrote:

gordon ramsay wrote:
interesting quotes from willie mason today as he wants to head to super league. there are 5 clubs interested. hull kr, giants, dragons, bulls, and salford.

it says a lot when he has dismissed bulls, salford, and catalans saying that he doesnt want to join a team likely to loose by 30 -40 points every week!!!!

how the mighty have fallen

No offence, but if Willie Mason signed for Bradford, I wouldn't be going back there! The guy is just one big ego, overrated and he only says this clap-trap to boost his options elsewhere. I hope he signs for Giants or Hull KR because it's odds-on that he'll be the biggest waste of money Super League has ever seen.

Adey, do you mean the biggest waste of money ever seen including Orford? And Harris even? Can't comment too much about the player 'cos I don't know too much about him except playing for Australia and he always seemed to do well enough then.

if we cant even attract a player like Willie Mason id say its game over!!!

Far Away wrote:

Adey wrote:

gordon ramsay wrote:
interesting quotes from willie mason today as he wants to head to super league. there are 5 clubs interested. hull kr, giants, dragons, bulls, and salford.

it says a lot when he has dismissed bulls, salford, and catalans saying that he doesnt want to join a team likely to loose by 30 -40 points every week!!!!

how the mighty have fallen

No offence, but if Willie Mason signed for Bradford, I wouldn't be going back there! The guy is just one big ego, overrated and he only says this clap-trap to boost his options elsewhere. I hope he signs for Giants or Hull KR because it's odds-on that he'll be the biggest waste of money Super League has ever seen.

Adey, do you mean the biggest waste of money ever seen including Orford? And Harris even? Can't comment too much about the player 'cos I don't know too much about him except playing for Australia and he always seemed to do well enough then.

We've got enough problems without inviting Willie Mason into the fold. The club need to get back on track for goodness sakes, not inviting the biggest loud mouth and most disruptive player in the world to come and play for us for 2-years! The first thing Brian Smith did at the Roosters when he took over was told Willie Mason to pack his bags...if the Messiah doesn't want him, then that should be enough for us to steer clear.

With all due respect Adey, to call a player who has played around 30 tests for Australia "over rated" is way off the mark. He may be all the other things in the way of being disruptive but over rated never. Surley for a huge man he is one of the most mobile props the game has seen. "Big Willie" though has muckied his ticket with his antics over the years. Let's hope we forget all about bringing ageing Aussies over and let Potter do his stuff HIS WAY.

haitch wrote:
With all due respect Adey, to call a player who has played around 30 tests for Australia "over rated" is way off the mark. He may be all the other things in the way of being disruptive but over rated never. Surley for a huge man he is one of the most mobile props the game has seen. "Big Willie" though has muckied his ticket with his antics over the years. Let's hope we forget all about bringing ageing Aussies over and let Potter do his stuff HIS WAY.

24 tests and 13 times for NSW, but times change. Fielden played 25 times for GB & 10 times for England...and in the past couple of seasons he's done nothing either. Times change. Willie Mason isn't the same devastating forward that punched out Fielden...if we wanted a decent Aussies we should have gone for Luke O'Donnell.

Adey, you're wrong on so many levels on this one. Mason is a world class forward, overrated is not a suitable word to describe a man of Masons immense talent and as much as a good player O'Donnell is he is a long way short of being anywhere near the calibre of player that Mason is.

Agree with Adey on the Mason thing -Bad name in the NRL, trouble maker and loud mouth. (in fairness, i'd only shout that at a reasonable distance hehe!)

willie mason can t tie andy lynch s boots never mind play in same as lynchy

whether you LIKE mason or not is completely irrelevant. the point os our perception as a club.. its about how we are thought of when it comes to recruitment. forget its mason who said this. its what the rest think!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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