Play-offs now a distant dream (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)

Dave Halley....what a star player he was yesteday. Cant say too much about the rest as i coulnt see what they brought to game apart from flat boring ameture rugby.

And who is it that has taken us to this point.

Too many false dawns this year where we looked to have turned a corner with som encouraging diplays only to throw in the utter tripe that was served to us yesterday.

A totally physically and weak rugby team, exposed defensively all over the pitch. Enough of the excuses, enough of the psychobabble, we are garbage end of, season written off and a desperate time to be a Bulls fan.

No play offs for the first time in SL, enough said.

What u Got to say now Gun Shine? Making the Play offs would be am=n Embarrassment anyway! Who ever wins other than 1st 2nd or 3rd?

Do the right thing Macca, walkaway and dont come back................
..Garbage

Same old rubbish from Mac as we have heard all season, why he cannot turn around and say we are simply not good enough AGAIN this year and that he has made huge errors in his role as well as the errors on the pitch from players......season over with 3rd of season left, he and Hood should be so ashamed of what they have done to OUR club!

Well, we have been saying for months that the coach needs to go, we have said that many of the players are not good enough and that we wont make the play offs, this is yet another Monday after another loss by another close margin and do we really expect that the board will take any action? they really must watching different games if they believe that this Dross is acceptable. i am sick and tired of the same crap coming out of Odsal, we wont make the play offs and in a sad way it is probably for the best. lets face it who wants to see us get hammered by Saints in the 1st round!!
has there been any confirmation Re sam going to Manly ? or is it still speculation?

Regarding the rumour mill, just heard from a VERY reliable source.

Halley to Saints
Tad to Wigan
Deacs to Warrington
Sam to Barrow
Langers to Manly
Sherrife & Warrincy to Leeds in exchange for Sinfield & 400k
Scruton to Salford
Jeffries to replace Nobby at Wigan
Platt has signed a 7 year deal to keep him at Odsal

and finally ......

Macca has a free transfer to Never Never Land

pontebull wrote:
Regarding the rumour mill, just heard from a VERY reliable source. Halley to Saints Tad to Wigan Deacs to Warrington Sam to Barrow Langers to Manly Sherrife & Warrincy to Leeds in exchange for Sinfield & 400k Scruton to Salford Jeffries to replace Nobby at Wigan Platt has signed a 7 year deal to keep him at Odsal and finally ...... Macca has a free transfer to Never Never Land

sounds like a good business plan to me!!

If any business starts to fail the management takes the flack. Simple as that.

Individually the majority of Bulls players have all proved successfull or shown real promise prior to joining Bulls. That's why they were signed. So if the coach is then unable to blend them into a team or cannot get the best out of them he MUST take responsibility.

Macca simply cannot be allowed to keep shrugging his shoulders. Any good top flight coach has the ability to get his team playing. They simply don't accept failure and their record always proves that.

Macca is like a headless chicken, unable to halt the slide. He hasn't a clue what to do and his team have the second highest points against in S/L.

Saints scored 50 at home against Cas and 68 at Cas. Maybe that shows just how far off the pace Bulls really are.

I still believe that the Bulls will make eighth place but that's about it. If you call that success then you had low expectations at the start of the year and didn't believe a word emanating from the corridors of Odsal and the confines of Mr MacNamara's office. But, for the last 3 years, we've been promised improvement and given further decline. By the end of July, there will be promises about how it will all come to fruition in 2010 under Mr MacNamra's astute leadership and the abudance of young talent waiting in the wings (all with their 4 minutes of Super League game time!) Obviously, the medicine that Mr MacNamara has been taking, which produces the surreal fantasy world in which the Bulls are about to become championship material, is beginning to wear off and reality is dawning. Keep taking the money Macca as you'll never get it as easy (should anyone want to employ you post-Bulls). Only a Bradford board, under Peter Hood, could be as deluded as to continue this charade.

I attended the Bull's match yesterday and was frankly amazed that I witnessed yet another home defeat. Any team that scores 38 points at home should not be the losing side.

Clearly, there are serious problems at the Bulls these days. They don't appear to be playing as a team, even at this point in the season. I felt in April that unless the standard of play improved, we would not make the play-offs.I have seen nothing so far to suggest otherwise. No sign of any consistency about to arrive at the club. Side is definitely not the same without Glen Morrison in it.Only a handful of players producing the goods.New signings a disappointed. When they do manage to get the ball in hand, too many unsure what to do with it. Too many mistakes. Is it long overdue to bring a new Head Coach to the club? I personally think so.

Also,the club should take a look at the ever decreasing attendances. Castleford must have brought with them 1500 at the very least. Yet only around 8,500 total gate figure. Looks like people are voting with their feet. I for one will not be renewing my season ticket unless
signicant changes are made.
Big changes need to be made for next season. This season is finished in my opinion. Even if we did make the play-offs, then we won't progress beyond the first round with the current way of playing.

Weak management (coach) = poor results. No if's no buts, Macca has shown he cannot get his players to perform. If these lads were playing for a top coach there is not the slightest doubt in my mind they would be in a play-off spot right now.

They obviously do not have the respect for Macca or they would not turn in performances like these Macca appears clueless as to how he can command that respect. His man management skills are not there.

Blaming the players is a bit like a salesman blaming his customers because they don't buy. Theres a knack in getting them to perform, customers or players!!

Talking of distant dreams!!!!!
Any chance of Dumb and Dumber (aka HOOD and McNamara) getting the Hell out of Odsal ??!!
So we can go back to supporting "OUR BRADFORD BULLS"!!

after watching yesterdays game i think i thought what most other people thought garbage, and many people around me were calling for donaldson to come on early,the problem with this would have been that if he had made a mistake and they had scored yet another try then the crowd would have been on his back, would this do much for he confidence no it would not, a young played has to be eased into the super league as it is a big step up from the acadamy we did this with koppy and the player we see today is fantastic so that just shows how this works. and then the abuse started on macca now what is this all about do you really think he goes in there at half time and says right now you have to play **** this half no he doesnt does he, he can advise them on how to win, how to play better but at the end of the day he cannot make the team play well, it is the players that have to be men and take it on the chin that they have not performed particulary well all season and as for Hood he can go we have had nothing but farcicle goings on while he has been here he is obviously crap!

Woodybenwood,Macca signed most of these players so how can you say he cannot make them play.If as you say he cannot play for them,of course he cannot but he should know their capabilities before he signs them.If they are not up to the job he should not have signed them,simple really,he obviously cannot tell the difference between a good player and a poor one so it is pretty clear to me the buck stops with him,As i have said many times on here there are some players who would move anywhere for an extra pound a week.These are quite obvious to me what we have got at Odsal at the moment,they are their for the money,nothing else.Now whos fault is that,yes the bloke who signed them.

1st of all, I'm not defending Macca - but the players have to take the blame for yesterdays debacle. It wasn't Macca that missed tackles, dropped balls, ran out of the defensive line like headless chickens and gave sloppy passes. These guy's are paid a nice hefty sum of money and the basic skills that you expect from them were non existent. The season is over for us so let's give the youngster's a go and drop the stars that have put us in this situation.
If we look at the bigger picture, is it hardly surprising that we're in this mess ? How can a club that competed the GF 5 times in a row, won the WCC 3 times as well as winning the CC a couple of times, have so little money ? Peacock, Fielden, Pryce and more have all left to be replaced by inferior players - where did all the money generated go from those seasons cos it hasn't been reinvested on the playing staff has it !

woodybenwood wrote:
after watching yesterdays game i think i thought what most other people thought garbage, and many people around me were calling for donaldson to come on early,the problem with this would have been that if he had made a mistake and they had scored yet another try then the crowd would have been on his back, would this do much for he confidence no it would not, a young played has to be eased into the super league as it is a big step up from the acadamy we did this with koppy and the player we see today is fantastic so that just shows how this works. and then the abuse started on macca now what is this all about do you really think he goes in there at half time and says right now you have to play **** this half no he doesnt does he, he can advise them on how to win, how to play better but at the end of the day he cannot make the team play well, it is the players that have to be men and take it on the chin that they have not performed particulary well all season and as for Hood he can go we have had nothing but farcicle goings on while he has been here he is obviously crap!

You have hit the nail on the head. Macca does indeed "advise" his team. A quality manager "makes" them perform to his standards.

Believe me I was a manager for years and if I failed to get results fom my lads as Macca does with his, I wouldn't have lasted two minutes.
When you are a manager you don't ask, you tell and if the results don't come you change tactics or personnel.
You NEVER blame your subordinates for poor performance.

Odsalite wrote:
1st of all, I'm not defending Macca - but the players have to take the blame for yesterdays debacle. It wasn't Macca that missed tackles, dropped balls, ran out of the defensive line like headless chickens and gave sloppy passes. These guy's are paid a nice hefty sum of money and the basic skills that you expect from them were non existent. The season is over for us so let's give the youngster's a go and drop the stars that have put us in this situation. If we look at the bigger picture, is it hardly surprising that we're in this mess ? How can a club that competed the GF 5 times in a row, won the WCC 3 times as well as winning the CC a couple of times, have so little money ? Peacock, Fielden, Pryce and more have all left to be replaced by inferior players - where did all the money generated go from those seasons cos it hasn't been reinvested on the playing staff has it !

Yes it is the players who physically lost the game, but these guys have been underperforming for most games. So it IS Maccas fault. He should have made the adjustments long ago and shown some backbone. Maccas fault and no one elses.

Still Not stopped laughing ~Yet? PS Y Would Sinny want to join u Losers? Answers on a postcard to Gum Boot Odsal Village! LOL

Haitch what I was trying to put across is that the players aren't good enough. A so called big club, that has been involved in the big games/finals etc should not be working with limited resources ! People are still living in the glory years, the club has been in a downward spiral for the past 3 or 4 years with the big name players leaving on a far too regular basis. Teams that have had no success appear to have more resources than the Bulls - it all spells to bad management at director level - we're not even spending the full salary cap

howard naylor wrote:
Still Not stopped laughing ~Yet? PS Y Would Sinny want to join u Losers? Answers on a postcard to Gum Boot Odsal Village! LOL

Stop it Howard and leave my mate Gumshoe alone.
I will agree though who would want to join us at present and whoever might, would they perform for Macca or do as the rest and treat it like a holiday camp?

Odsalite wrote:
Haitch what I was trying to put across is that the players aren't good enough. A so called big club, that has been involved in the big games/finals etc should not be working with limited resources ! People are still living in the glory years, the club has been in a downward spiral for the past 3 or 4 years with the big name players leaving on a far too regular basis. Teams that have had no success appear to have more resources than the Bulls - it all spells to bad management at director level - we're not even spending the full salary cap

Hi, Yes I see your point Odsalite and accept your view of the players, but they have had a couple of really good wins so we do know what they are capable of. So why do they turn up as though they couldn't care less or as if they haven't played before?

The club indeed needs strong management and it needs to come quick. As I said before, we need a Caisley/Brian Smith event and a new start. Let's get some purpose back in the club.

Don't you think the bad management started with the Caisley/Noble reign and gone downhill rapidly since ?
The Harris saga !
The Peacock situation !
If we couldn't make a profit when we were competing in the finals, what chance have we now ?
There is no buzz around the place on matchdays, the atmosphere is non existent but thats hardly surprising with our performances

Odsalite wrote:
Don't you think the bad management started with the Caisley/Noble reign and gone downhill rapidly since ? The Harris saga ! The Peacock situation ! If we couldn't make a profit when we were competing in the finals, what chance have we now ? There is no buzz around the place on matchdays, the atmosphere is non existent but thats hardly surprising with our performances

Yes, what I meant was the Caisly 'Bulls' concept was just the right conception at the time. His abilty to tempt such an astute manager as Brian Smith was the icing on the cake.
That's the type of leadership we badly need to see again at Boardroom and coaching level again.

Think Macca does know his stuff but he's not strong enough or experienced enough to be a head coach - I remember after the 2005 GF when Leon and a couple of other players stated it was Macca having more of an input with squad than turned the season (not hard when the other coach was Veivers) - we need a strong manager to come in and take control of the 1st team affairs but again, who would be tempted ?
A shrewd businessman is needed to run the club, preferably with some money behind him - Jack Tordoff ? Ken Morrison ?

If only we could get Brian Smith back, what coup that would be, i doubt that Hood could attract such a person though, I doubt that he would even want to, he seems perfectly happy with Macca, between the 2 of them they appear to be intent on ruining the club. We need strong leadership and strong decision making both on and off the pitch and neither Hood nor Macca have the Bxxxs or ability to do it. this season has been a disaster and for the most part embarrassing. i cant see next season being any better if these clowns remain at the helm of the sinking ship.

So within days Macca has gone from "our team spirit will take us to the playoffs" to "we've got a mountain to climb to make them"

The man is a joker of the highest order. I can't believe so many have supported him for so long when it was blatantly obvious right from the start that he was not good enough.

The rugby we've played under him has been boring, amateurish and soft.

Get Rid of this cancer that is taking the life out of Bulls.

He should stick to coaching academy boys because men do not want to listen to him.

Steve Mac for the Sack wrote:
So within days Macca has gone from "our team spirit will take us to the playoffs" to "we've got a mountain to climb to make them" The man is a joker of the highest order. I can't believe so many have supported him for so long when it was blatantly obvious right from the start that he was not good enough. The rugby we've played under him has been boring, amateurish and soft. Get Rid of this cancer that is taking the life out of Bulls. He should stick to coaching academy boys because men do not want to listen to him.

At least we all gave him a chance whereas you wrote him off. As it turns out you were right but of course if you dismiss every young coach who comes into the game you will indeed be right more times than wrong For example I predict Agar will struggle at Hull.

On another related issue. There is a dearth of quality coaches and Players available world wide and I wonder who Bulls could turn to to sort out the mess.

I suspect if Brian Smith were to come back he would be appauled at the way all the work he put into turning the club around has been allowed to subside.

haitch wrote:

Odsalite wrote: Don't you think the bad management started with the Caisley/Noble reign and gone downhill rapidly since ? The Harris saga ! The Peacock situation ! If we couldn't make a profit when we were competing in the finals, what chance have we now ? There is no buzz around the place on matchdays, the atmosphere is non existent but thats hardly surprising with our performances

Yes, what I meant was the Caisly 'Bulls' concept was just the right conception at the time. His abilty to tempt such an astute manager as Brian Smith was the icing on the cake. That's the type of leadership we badly need to see again at Boardroom and coaching level again.

the trouble with the caisly concept is that it put us in the financial mess we are trying to get out of now.
before people call for hood to go, which wouldn't bother me either way, there needs to be someone prepared to step up into his shoes, is there anyone??? no use just saying get rid. we need to get rid of the highly paid non performers on the field!

I agree cj, It is easiest to blame the coach and directors, but get to the heart of the problem, ship out the highly paid under-acheivers on the pitch and replace them with the young enthusiastic players, who want to play and win for their coach, club and fans !!!

I sent this e-mail yesterday to Macca & hood I also copied the t&a I have supported Macca up till now but now enough is enough.


Steve

I asked a question back in April " what the hell is going on at Odsal " you replied explaining how things are on the verge of happening & all is well. Every day we read quotes form you on how team spirit will get us through.

I will ask you again what the hell is going on at Odsal ? we are going from bad to worse no commitment no passion & no direction. How long before you accept that these inept performances are just not good enough. We are the fans that provide you a living by paying our hard earned cash & what are we getting in return.

Its high time you stopped glossing things over & took serious action to put things right. You can not stand by your players & support them when they are under performing week in week out. You need to openly tell it how it is instead of this bad day at the office crap.

Please sign a couple of quality half backs Deacon is past it face it, we need some quality signings for next season or I`m afraid to say fans will stop away not renew their season tickets & before long we will end up a division 1 club.

Why do you no longer come up to the box ? the truth hurts I know but hiding on the side lines does not make it right. I stand & watch us throw games away week after week its just not good enough, are you capable of sorting this out ?

We are third for bottom our chances of reaching the play offs are a distant chance at best but if we reach them what chance do we have & getting anywhere other than out in the first round.

What has happened at Bradford is a tragedy we were world club champions not so long ago & now were bargain basement. We used to be feared were now viewed as 2 points by most clubs. You have a big part to play in the fortunes of this club & you have to take on board you have had a big part to play in its demise.

I`m sick of watching slow starts & poor finishes how can we be proud of our club when nobody at the club can be proud of what they are doing.

Peter Hood what are you doing about the mess were in ? your another one who glosses things over you have got to stop using salary cap infringements by predecessors as an excuse, what other club would allow this decline go on, every other club in superleauge is progressive do we see Leeds & Saints sliding into collapse falling from grace & become a total joke ?

Both of you need to get this sorted I used to have great respect for you Macca but now I'm not sure if you are capable of turning things round. You have had long enough now your trail period is up Macca.

Yours

A truly fed up supporter.

Real supporter Riddleden. You should be proud of your support for Macca and Co.,as you have stood by them through thick and thin. Enough is indeed enough and we must all now press for real change at the club.

Wonder if Peter Fox is doing owt?

haitch wrote:
Real supporter Riddleden. You should be proud of your support for Macca and Co.,as you have stood by them through thick and thin. Enough is indeed enough and we must all now press for real change at the club.

i reluctantly agree. having been glass half full all season, thinking things would pick up, i too, am now getting to realise things aint gonna change without some substantial change at the club. even if by some miracle we did make the top 8, we would be out in the first playoff game. Bulls are not good enough. Period.

haitch wrote:

Steve Mac for the Sack wrote: So within days Macca has gone from "our team spirit will take us to the playoffs" to "we've got a mountain to climb to make them" The man is a joker of the highest order. I can't believe so many have supported him for so long when it was blatantly obvious right from the start that he was not good enough. The rugby we've played under him has been boring, amateurish and soft. Get Rid of this cancer that is taking the life out of Bulls. He should stick to coaching academy boys because men do not want to listen to him.

At least we all gave him a chance whereas you wrote him off. As it turns out you were right but of course if you dismiss every young coach who comes into the game you will indeed be right more times than wrong For example I predict Agar will struggle at Hull. On another related issue. There is a dearth of quality coaches and Players available world wide and I wonder who Bulls could turn to to sort out the mess. I suspect if Brian Smith were to come back he would be appauled at the way all the work he put into turning the club around has been allowed to subside.

Well in that case lets give Basil Richards a chance, does that sound like a good idea?

The simple fact is, he wasn't ready to be given the chance and I wasn't prepared to offer him onebecause of the way Nobby was treated in the last 2 weeks of his Bulls career Haitch, it was the wrong decision from all concerned to get rid of Nobby and instill a coach that had hardly any experience.

We cant go round giving every tom dick and harry chances Haitch, it's a big job and it demands a coach who is big enough, tough enough and skillful enough to hold the fort at the very least.

Macca wasn't good enough in any department needed and it's cost us dearly.

People can believe what the like, 'oh Leon Pryce said it was Macca who got us to the 05 GF', woz it hell, it was Brian Noble, he was the head coach of this team and what he says went, the players listened to him, followed his lead and did as they were told, that's why we were so effective as a team, because we had a strong leader.

The Bulls didn't coach themselves, as no team does and it takes an excellent coach to extract excellence amongst a host of other positive attributes from players.

Macca is a poor in every aspect of coaching and management.

Anybody disagree with me? Then show me some proof otherwise and I'll show you in the simplest form why he sucks as a super league coach.

bullybabe wrote:
I agree cj, It is easiest to blame the coach and directors, but get to the heart of the problem, ship out the highly paid under-acheivers on the pitch and replace them with the young enthusiastic players, who want to play and win for their coach, club and fans !!!

The heart of the problem is McNamara, he's brought in most of these under achievers.

It's his fault.

Like every other true supporter of the Bulls I am hurting from the way this season has degenerated into total failure.

When any business produces poor results the person/s who appoint the management team of that business must take responsibility and action.

Don't blame the players, who now totally lack confidence or self belief.

Don't even blame Macca and his staff, like any one of us trying to earn a living they will not leave till pushed. They know better than any of us that they are incompetent at what they are doing.

Macca has not and will not Walk Away

It is Hood and his board's failure to dismiss Macca for his poor performance that has resulted in the present situation.

So on behalf of all the supporters and fans of our great club I would thank you, Mr Hood,for your totally gutless performance as chairman over the past couple of years.

SMFTS you may be right about Richards. My concern would be he may find S/L too much and can Bulls risk it?.
I believe a good solid coach who has a track record of strong discipline coupled with success is the answer.
Where on earth are they going to find such a person.

Sorry but Nobby may be a good solid coach but his track record at Wigan despite all the available money has been abysmal.

Haitch, the Bulls have spent to the salary cap on each season since Nobby left as have Wigan since he joined. Apart from buying Fielden (good business for the Bulls) and Gleeson, Wigan have recruited players who have been out of contract as have the Bulls, apart from 100K plus Ferres for Solomona!! What I am saying is that we are comparing like for like, even on tradition and grass-roots. Nobby has taken Wigan from the bottom to mid-table obscurity whilst Macca has taken the Bulls from the top to mid-table obscurity (in my dreams!). Comparing the two impartially (try it Haitch, you can do it) who has done the better job?

haitch wrote:
SMFTS you may be right about Richards. My concern would be he may find S/L too much and can Bulls risk it?. I believe a good solid coach who has a track record of strong discipline coupled with success is the answer. Where on earth are they going to find such a person. Sorry but Nobby may be a good solid coach but his track record at Wigan despite all the available money has been abysmal.

How as it been abysmal though, look where they were when he took over, look where they have got to in the playoffs for the past two seasons, imagine us doing that? and would you bet on them not making it for the 8 this year or would you bet on them going on a good run again, I certainley wouldnt bet on them to miss and I might even back Wigan and Wolves to win the grand final.

Nobby at Wigan has had only the same amount of cash to spend on players as us, they spent full salary cap and so did we, whilst we have been abysmal at sank to new lows, Nobby has had Wigan within 80 mins of Old Trafford and knocking us out at the first hurdle to year on the bounce.

Nobby is a good solid coach, but he's a whole lot more than that as well Haitch.

Tricky Dicky wrote:
Haitch, the Bulls have spent to the salary cap on each season since Nobby left as have Wigan since he joined. Apart from buying Fielden (good business for the Bulls) and Gleeson, Wigan have recruited players who have been out of contract as have the Bulls, apart from 100K plus Ferres for Solomona!! What I am saying is that we are comparing like for like, even on tradition and grass-roots. Nobby has taken Wigan from the bottom to mid-table obscurity whilst Macca has taken the Bulls from the top to mid-table obscurity (in my dreams!). Comparing the two impartially (try it Haitch, you can do it) who has done the better job?

I,m not sure I get your point. Wigan are a wealthy club whilst Bulls are next to bankrupt. Where is your like for like and how am I supposed to view these two with impartiallity?

I see Saints and Wigan along with Wire and others signing players other clubs including Bulls can only dream of.

Difference between yours and my phylosophy tricky is that you are viewing the salary cap as a level playing field whilst I see it as anything but.

Its frought with back handers from very wealthy owners and I believe for obvious reasons the RFL turn a blind eye.

Compare the players at the two clubs, imagine the cost of such players. Think who is paying their wages (expenses??)

Now you might understand why Wigan are looking for another coach and why I say Nobby is a failure.

Sorry, Haitch, what you are suggesting just wouldn't stand up in court. My point is that, based on the official figures of the amount spent on players wages, we are alike. I will even go as far as to say that Wigan and Bradford are THE names in Rugby League, to the traditionalists, so are on par with regards to attracting players. As far Bradford being bankrupt, there is no way that you will hear that coming out of Odsal. So, based on fact, and not conjecture, who has been the more "successful", Macca or Nobby?

Bulls are not next to bankrupt though Haitch. Go ahead and listen to what Peter Hood tells us.

Bring Dave Woods in with Robbie as assistant before he goes and joins Leigh and Morro as fitness coach. Woods certainly knows how to get the best out of players which is something we desperately need for next season.

Tricky Dicky wrote:
Sorry, Haitch, what you are suggesting just wouldn't stand up in court. My point is that, based on the official figures of the amount spent on players wages, we are alike. I will even go as far as to say that Wigan and Bradford are THE names in Rugby League, to the traditionalists, so are on par with regards to attracting players. As far Bradford being bankrupt, there is no way that you will hear that coming out of Odsal. So, based on fact, and not conjecture, who has been the more "successful", Macca or Nobby?

I don't wish to argue just for the sake of it Tricky but I believe the truth in my statements will be there for all to see and before too long.

On the Bulls financial position I was talking 'comparatively'

It has indeed been said by Hood (and I can't remember the exact figure) but I believe it was around 11,000 gates just to cover costs.

Bulls have sunk way below this and are losing money. They have lost meaningful sponsorship too. How long can this go on before we have the same financial turmoil which beset the Northern in the 60's?

As regards Nobby.I don't recall comparing Macca to him. All I have said is that Nobby has had far more money to spend than Macca but has achieved nothing with Wigan. This is a fact in silverwear terms.Of course if you wish to talk league positions, why is Nobbys team wallowing below Cas, Wakey and Giants etc.? He spent more on Fielden than Macca has his whole team. I believe much of the Fielden money went to solve the Harris issue.

To back my comments further, Wigan have tried to sign Nobles replacement for next season already, so it seems they don't concur with your opinion of Nobby either.

Finally, Isn't it Nobbys Wigan who hold the distinction of being the only side (other than Bulls) to lose to whipping boys Celtic? Some record!.

Realsupporter wrote:
I sent this e-mail yesterday to Macca & hood I also copied the t&a I have supported Macca up till now but now enough is enough. Steve I asked a question back in April " what the hell is going on at Odsal " you replied explaining how things are on the verge of happening & all is well. Every day we read quotes form you on how team spirit will get us through. I will ask you again what the hell is going on at Odsal ? we are going from bad to worse no commitment no passion & no direction. How long before you accept that these inept performances are just not good enough. We are the fans that provide you a living by paying our hard earned cash & what are we getting in return. Its high time you stopped glossing things over & took serious action to put things right. You can not stand by your players & support them when they are under performing week in week out. You need to openly tell it how it is instead of this bad day at the office crap. Please sign a couple of quality half backs Deacon is past it face it, we need some quality signings for next season or I`m afraid to say fans will stop away not renew their season tickets & before long we will end up a division 1 club. Why do you no longer come up to the box ? the truth hurts I know but hiding on the side lines does not make it right. I stand & watch us throw games away week after week its just not good enough, are you capable of sorting this out ? We are third for bottom our chances of reaching the play offs are a distant chance at best but if we reach them what chance do we have & getting anywhere other than out in the first round. What has happened at Bradford is a tragedy we were world club champions not so long ago & now were bargain basement. We used to be feared were now viewed as 2 points by most clubs. You have a big part to play in the fortunes of this club & you have to take on board you have had a big part to play in its demise. I`m sick of watching slow starts & poor finishes how can we be proud of our club when nobody at the club can be proud of what they are doing. Peter Hood what are you doing about the mess were in ? your another one who glosses things over you have got to stop using salary cap infringements by predecessors as an excuse, what other club would allow this decline go on, every other club in superleauge is progressive do we see Leeds & Saints sliding into collapse falling from grace & become a total joke ? Both of you need to get this sorted I used to have great respect for you Macca but now I'm not sure if you are capable of turning things round. You have had long enough now your trail period is up Macca. Yours A truly fed up supporter.

Did you get a reply?

Realsupporter wrote:
I sent this e-mail yesterday to Macca & hood I also copied the t&a I have supported Macca up till now but now enough is enough. Steve I asked a question back in April " what the hell is going on at Odsal " you replied explaining how things are on the verge of happening & all is well. Every day we read quotes form you on how team spirit will get us through. I will ask you again what the hell is going on at Odsal ? we are going from bad to worse no commitment no passion & no direction. How long before you accept that these inept performances are just not good enough. We are the fans that provide you a living by paying our hard earned cash & what are we getting in return. Its high time you stopped glossing things over & took serious action to put things right. You can not stand by your players & support them when they are under performing week in week out. You need to openly tell it how it is instead of this bad day at the office crap. Please sign a couple of quality half backs Deacon is past it face it, we need some quality signings for next season or I`m afraid to say fans will stop away not renew their season tickets & before long we will end up a division 1 club. Why do you no longer come up to the box ? the truth hurts I know but hiding on the side lines does not make it right. I stand & watch us throw games away week after week its just not good enough, are you capable of sorting this out ? We are third for bottom our chances of reaching the play offs are a distant chance at best but if we reach them what chance do we have & getting anywhere other than out in the first round. What has happened at Bradford is a tragedy we were world club champions not so long ago & now were bargain basement. We used to be feared were now viewed as 2 points by most clubs. You have a big part to play in the fortunes of this club & you have to take on board you have had a big part to play in its demise. I`m sick of watching slow starts & poor finishes how can we be proud of our club when nobody at the club can be proud of what they are doing. Peter Hood what are you doing about the mess were in ? your another one who glosses things over you have got to stop using salary cap infringements by predecessors as an excuse, what other club would allow this decline go on, every other club in superleauge is progressive do we see Leeds & Saints sliding into collapse falling from grace & become a total joke ? Both of you need to get this sorted I used to have great respect for you Macca but now I'm not sure if you are capable of turning things round. You have had long enough now your trail period is up Macca. Yours A truly fed up supporter.

Let us know if you get a reply.

Real,Where did you get Maccas E mail from,would like to ask him a few questions myself.

Mac the sack & Roldan I have not had a reply of either macca or Hood I did ger a reply off macca several times before but not now. steve.mcnamara@bradf
ordbulls.co.uk & peter.hood@bradfordb
ulls.co.uk send as many e-mails as you can. I did get a reply from the t&a they are printing my e-mail on Thursday.Its not about Macca its about our club it breaks my heart at whats gonig on. Hood is a spineless creep wgho is totally out of his depth. I still say Macca was thrown in at the deep end & is doing all he can with his limited skills as a coach. The **** lies with the board.

I wrote a letter to Peter Hood three or four weeks ago telling a few home truths about both Mr Hood and Macca. It is time and has been for a while for them both to get out of our once great club. As for those who don't aportion some if not all blame on Macca you are deluded! The problem is clear. He lacks tactical and motivational skills required at this level. Simple as that. This side is miles better than the table shows. For me therefore you must look at the coach. Hood has no rugby brain either and is too close to McNamara so will not sack him. The only way things will change is if the fans protest and make their feelings heard. However not enough fans are hard enough to do it. I suggest at the next home game we make a lot of noise saying we want macca out and sack the board. If we don't take action soon it will be too late. And lastly I didn't expect a reply from peter hood as he doesnt give a monkeys about the supporters......and I didn't get one !

Odsalbull wrote:
I wrote a letter to Peter Hood three or four weeks ago telling a few home truths about both Mr Hood and Macca. It is time and has been for a while for them both to get out of our once great club. As for those who don't aportion some if not all blame on Macca you are deluded! The problem is clear. He lacks tactical and motivational skills required at this level. Simple as that. This side is miles better than the table shows. For me therefore you must look at the coach. Hood has no rugby brain either and is too close to McNamara so will not sack him. The only way things will change is if the fans protest and make their feelings heard. However not enough fans are hard enough to do it. I suggest at the next home game we make a lot of noise saying we want macca out and sack the board. If we don't take action soon it will be too late. And lastly I didn't expect a reply from peter hood as he doesnt give a monkeys about the supporters......and I didn't get one !

Its a good point you make but most of all I like your comment
"this side is better than the table shows"
I have made this point many times. The performance against Saints was to be commended and with a good knowledgeable coach they could be way up the table. We do not need wholesale changes to succeed, just a little professionalism with a professional coach.

Gumshoe wrote:
Bring Dave Woods in with Robbie as assistant before he goes and joins Leigh and Morro as fitness coach. Woods certainly knows how to get the best out of players which is something we desperately need for next season.

I am afrain Glen is gone at the end of the season