City recruit Asian ambassador (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)

Suggestion #1 - Mr Khan's company does the catering at VP..

Is this not racially biased ? If we recruited someone to specifically target youngsters who were from a non asian background, I suspect there might be a few people getting upset,,,,, but because its the other way round, it's ok ??

Good move Mark this should break down any barriers, We are a community club so getting the community involved has to be good, This may lead to higher attendances and a new shirt sponsor Well done ML.

would be interested to know if Omar was an active City supporter before this appointment. if yes then great, he can spread his enthusiasm. if not, I think its a bit hollow. must say he has a very nice restaurant, but the food ain't what it used to be!

Who's in charge of the family brain-cell today Old Perculiar (sic)?
It is because the Asian community is a minority in Bradford that this move is not "inverted racism" which is the term you are alluding to.
Though the Asian community in Bradford is a minority, it is substantial in size so how else would anyone possibly refer to it?
Plus, in case you haven't noticed, we don't need to "target people from a non-Asian background" as the ground and club is already full of them.
It is views and mind-sets like this which make our City such a divided place.
This is a brilliant idea and long overdue.

cheers Meat Pie.. saved me the effort!

If it helps generate funds for McGod then great, but I agree with Old Perculiar also.

Meat Pie - let me guess, you're a teacher.

Hopefully a money maker for the club in the long run and good business decision.....just hope they swap the Balti pies in the ground cos theya re very nice!!!

great move: have met the guy several times:this could be the best move we have made for a long time.

not enough Asian kids playing professional foorball anywhere in the UK .

Meat Pie wrote:
Who's in charge of the family brain-cell today Old Perculiar (sic)? It is because the Asian community is a minority in Bradford that this move is not "inverted racism" which is the term you are alluding to. Though the Asian community in Bradford is a minority, it is substantial in size so how else would anyone possibly refer to it? Plus, in case you haven't noticed, we don't need to "target people from a non-Asian background" as the ground and club is already full of them. It is views and mind-sets like this which make our City such a divided place. This is a brilliant idea and long overdue.

Spot on Meat Pie. This is a very good idea and a great appointment. Hopefully he can persuade the Asian community to come down to Valley Parade on match days. Equally, as Tyker mentioned, we may even get a couple of star footballers in the longer term. Well done Lawn.

P.S. Will you change your name from 'Meat Pie' to 'Balti Pie'?? LOL

Hopefully, he will be a better signing than his name-sake! LOEL

Wrong again Old Perculiar and my profession is irrelevant to this discussion.
You, however, are clearly a very ill-informed and ignorant person.

Great this is all we need.Great move city!

Old Perculiar wrote:
Meat Pie - let me guess, you're a teacher.

I'm a teacher actually. Is my profession another thing that you appear to be prejudiced againt?

Security word = pass-that
Perhaps a tip for t'other Omar.

Youngliver wrote:

Old Perculiar wrote: Meat Pie - let me guess, you're a teacher.

I'm a teacher actually. Is my profession another thing that you appear to be prejudiced againt? Security word = pass-that Perhaps a tip for t'other Omar.

And another cracking response.

p.s. 'against' has a 's' in it. Bl00dy know it all teachers LOL.

At the end of the day what does it matter if this guy is from an asian background ? Any help in bringing in additional funds and support to the club through any means (ligitmate and legal of course) should be applauded and welcomed by us all. Lets not get into this racial nonsense because it is just not needed !!
Lets applaud Mark for getting someone on board who may help add another driving factor into the success of our club !! CTID !

Must say omars is my favourite restaurant but forgive me but I can't help but feel there is more in this for Mr Khan than Bradford city!
The tava ghosht lahora with naan is superb btw!

Anything that raises the profile of Bradford City with the area of Bradford with all groups must be a good thing.
It shouldn't matter what creed, religion, skin colour anyone is if they want to watch football at Valley Parade.
Football is a universal game and should be open to everyone.
After all it isn't going to cost them much is it with the season ticket offers we have at BCFC.

Waynus wrote:

Youngliver wrote:

Old Perculiar wrote: Meat Pie - let me guess, you're a teacher.

I'm a teacher actually. Is my profession another thing that you appear to be prejudiced againt? Security word = pass-that Perhaps a tip for t'other Omar.

And another cracking response. p.s. 'against' has a 's' in it. Bl00dy know it all teachers LOL.

Waynus; I believe that you mean "an 's' in it"

Can't believe anyone would consider this to be in any way racially objectionable. Who better to break down barriers? City have tried community stuff before and it hasn't worked. Omar is likely to have some sway in Bradford and is therefore ideal for the role - his (or anyone elses) race is irrelevant.

I was in Khan's place last night and very nice it was too.

Meat Pie wrote:
Who's in charge of the family brain-cell today Old Perculiar (sic)? It is because the Asian community is a minority in Bradford that this move is not "inverted racism" which is the term you are alluding to. Though the Asian community in Bradford is a minority, it is substantial in size so how else would anyone possibly refer to it? Plus, in case you haven't noticed, we don't need to "target people from a non-Asian background" as the ground and club is already full of them. It is views and mind-sets like this which make our City such a divided place. This is a brilliant idea and long overdue.

Muppet

Meat Pie wrote:
Wrong again Old Perculiar and my profession is irrelevant to this discussion. You, however, are clearly a very ill-informed and ignorant person.

Don't know if you have ever lived in bradford but looking at the name you don't now. The place is ruined. If I could afford to get out of the gun riddled, heroin infested rat ridden hole but the house values have remained considerably lower than elsewhere and the circle continues. Keep posting comments but please come and look at el paradise and see what I mean

Don't know if you have ever lived in bradford but looking at the name you don't now. The place is ruined. If I could afford to get out of the gun riddled, heroin infested rat ridden hole but the house values have remained considerably lower than elsewhere and the circle continues. Keep posting comments but please come and look at el paradise and see what I mean

Youngliver wrote:

Old Perculiar wrote: Meat Pie - let me guess, you're a teacher.

I'm a teacher actually. Is my profession another thing that you appear to be prejudiced againt? Security word = pass-that Perhaps a tip for t'other Omar.

0 out of 10 for spelling Youngliver.

I guess you are a maths teacher

KnightMcCall wrote:

Waynus wrote:

Youngliver wrote:

Old Perculiar wrote: Meat Pie - let me guess, you're a teacher.

I'm a teacher actually. Is my profession another thing that you appear to be prejudiced againt? Security word = pass-that Perhaps a tip for t'other Omar.

And another cracking response. p.s. 'against' has a 's' in it. Bl00dy know it all teachers LOL.

Waynus; I believe that you mean "an 's' in it"

Can't believe anyone would consider this to be in any way racially objectionable. Who better to break down barriers? City have tried community stuff before and it hasn't worked. Omar is likely to have some sway in Bradford and is therefore ideal for the role - his (or anyone elses) race is irrelevant.

I was in Khan's place last night and very nice it was too.

Yes, it should have been "an 's' in it". **** keyboard!

You are spot on with your post too. It is a fantastic idea and I hope he makes a real difference.

You cannot afford to get out of this heroin infested, ruinous city right? Funny that..! How about a change in attitude? How about not blaming everyone else for your miserable life? If you could afford the bus fare you would realise that Bradford is not the worst, not the best, and better than most. But you would not know that because as far as you are concerned if it was not for "those lot" your lot would be better. It never will, your hope is finished.
I would have preferred Bradford City to get a young, second generation Asian who is culturally in tune with both communities rather than a mate who's restaurant you happen to attend and welcomes the publicity. If there is a job going I might be interested!

Old Perculiar wrote:
Meat Pie - let me guess, you're a teacher.

Dear Old Perculiar,
Why not enroll on an English Language course as you cannot even manage to spell your own user name correctly. It is: 'Peculiar' NOT 'Perculiar'. Whilst your reading your dictionary, see how many synonyms you can find for the word:
IRONY. Anti-intellectualism is a defence mechanism employed by those that feel challenged by an idea that emanates from outside of their own weltanschauung. I'm not a teacher either, before you start!

Interesting to see the number of comments on this forum. I know some statistics suggest that more than 50% of young Asian boys take part in football but very few of them go to watch any. Interestingly, a much larger percentage watch footy on the television and support either MUFC or LFC.

I think Asian people are very interested but have never found any inner burning desire to support their local team and time is right to change this trend. My only reservation would be how Mr Khan can do anything to persuade people like me to support their local club.

Not that I have got anything against the guy - but he just doesn't strike me as someone who knows about football or young people's ways of thinking that gives him the edge.

BTW - It's nice to see that people haven't responded to this article with the usual racist nonsense.

am asian and i love BCFC..i do go to few home games a season coz of other commitments....I dont think we really needed asian ambassador to motivate us to watch or suprt city

rash86 why do'nt many people of an asian background come? Especially with the deal for under 11's! Personally anyone who helps more people come to VP from all the different backgrounds is a good thing.

In principle a good idea, we need to get more people from the asian community supporting the club.

I just hope this is not a publicity stunt, as there have been similar initiatives before, and nothing has materialised.

Hello everybody, I found the work done by the board positive towards integration of the communities at Valley Parade. I hope this gets more people from Bradford to watch my beloved Bantams.
I've been watching City now for a good number of years even when working away or going on holiday the first thing I pack is my Claret and Amber Shirt.
A lot of people may not know that I am an Asian from Bradford; born and bred. When I go down to VP on match days it makes me feel at home singing away feeling the passion. On the terraces WE as fans are the 12th man and it doesn't matter if your black, white, Asian, rich, or poor. I know it is a cliche but this is why they call it the beautiful game.
I often convince many of my Asian friends to come down to VP with me on matchdays to experience it for themselves. I hope in the near future going through Bradford I will see more people wearing Claret and Amber rather than strips from other City's/towns.
I hope that all on this site see this news as a positive for the club and a good step towards a better City....


CTID

Ive always believed a lot of asians have wanted to come to Valley Parade but the fear of being abused has put them ,(or thiere parents allowing them) off,now with someone they trust to represent them ,any fears should be alleviated, so Well Done the CITY board

Odshapeballs - I do live in Bradford actually though I work in MK Monday to Friday. This is actually my choice as I love coming home though in doing so my life is made considerably harder than if I moved down south.
By the way, house prices in Bradford have risen way above the national average over the past 5 years due to the close proximity of Bradford to Leeds; the finance centre of the north - and the depressed proce of property in the area prior to this boom period.
So, I don't need to come and look at "El Paradiso" 'cause I live there and live there through choice, not necessity.
Fine if you want to call me a "muppet" though it's you who needs to check your facts.

Jammy wrote:
Ive always believed a lot of asians have wanted to come to Valley Parade but the fear of being abused has put them ,(or thiere parents allowing them) off,now with someone they trust to represent them ,any fears should be alleviated, so Well Done the CITY board

Rubbish! Where has that belief come from. You are talking total cr*p. City already have a following from all backgrounds. This is the start of positive descrimination. I hope the board don't start to offer different rates to differing backgrounds, that would certainly be a step backwards and a flash point for trouble. Keep it real!

Nice to hear from so many Asian people on this topic. It is just a shame there isn't the same enthusiasm when watching City on match days. It is good to hear your thoughts and feelings. Perhaps you could offer Messrs Khan and Lawn some guidance on this matter.

The people above have said they enjoy watching City or classing them as their team. However, that part of the City (near to the ground) is hugely Asian populated, but I would anticipate that less than 100 of the local community attend on match days.

When taking my children to the parks, do I see children brought up in Asian families playing football? No, they are instead playing cricket. What is the fascination of cricket in Bradford?

As a suggestion, I believe we should replace the 'cross-bar challenge' with a 'one wicket bat and bowl challenge' LOL

Waynus wrote:
Nice to hear from so many Asian people on this topic. It is just a shame there isn't the same enthusiasm when watching City on match days. It is good to hear your thoughts and feelings. Perhaps you could offer Messrs Khan and Lawn some guidance on this matter. The people above have said they enjoy watching City or classing them as their team. However, that part of the City (near to the ground) is hugely Asian populated, but I would anticipate that less than 100 of the local community attend on match days. When taking my children to the parks, do I see children brought up in Asian families playing football? No, they are instead playing cricket. What is the fascination of cricket in Bradford? As a suggestion, I believe we should replace the 'cross-bar challenge' with a 'one wicket bat and bowl challenge' LOL

On boxing day last year I was running late and missed kick-off (and the minute's silence). As I was running to the ground through the deserted streets, I was fairly gutted to see 3 young asian kids kicking a football around in the street behind the bradford end. I mean they're less than 10 metres from the ground and clearly have an interest in the game, yet they're not in the ground. They would have probably qualified for free tickets being under 11 if they were accompanied by an adult too! I really hope Omar Khan can make a difference.

freespeech wrote:

Jammy wrote: Ive always believed a lot of asians have wanted to come to Valley Parade but the fear of being abused has put them ,(or thiere parents allowing them) off,now with someone they trust to represent them ,any fears should be alleviated, so Well Done the CITY board

Rubbish! Where has that belief come from. You are talking total cr*p. City already have a following from all backgrounds. This is the start of positive descrimination. I hope the board don't start to offer different rates to differing backgrounds, that would certainly be a step backwards and a flash point for trouble. Keep it real!

How is Jammy's view rubbish? You may not agree, but it doesn't make his view rubbish.

In the 80s and 90s, there was still quite a bit of racial abuse directed at players. How do you know that some Asian families decided they didn't want their children going to football to hear that kind of language? Yes, that kind of behaviour has thankfully stopped (especially at City games), but those same Asian familes may not know the improvements that have been made off the pitch to erridicate this. Only the Asian familes themselves will know for certain why their communities do not attend.

If someone 'believes' a reason could be for x,y or z, who are you tell time him he is talking rubbish?

If this idea takes off how will city afford a ground the size of Barcelona's Nou camp to fit you all in,you may even push that great team from Beeston for crowd sizes lol.

Oakenshaw white wrote:
If this idea takes off how will city afford a ground the size of Barcelona's Nou camp to fit you all in,you may even push that great team from Beeston for crowd sizes lol.

Didn't know there was a 'great team' in Beeston. Hunslet Hawks?

Or were you thinking of the club sponsored by skips, just living off past memories. Third rate club for third rate fans. Hardly 'great'.

There has always been a big interest in football from the Asian community in ENGLAND. We as a club have attempted many a time to tap into this market and failed. This has been for varying reasons, the main one being that 'elders' from the Asian community do not class this sport as a proper job and want their children eductaing, no harm in that, therefore even if a lad shows promise, as many do, they are not allowed to follow their dream due to family pressure usually. There was a lad at school with me who could pick the ball up from our keeper, beat all other 21 players on the pitch twice, walk round the keeper and backheel the ball into the net, he had to stop playing for the school team on a saturday morning as he had to work in the family shop. there was no ggive and take, he couldn't play for us anymore. I don't think the problem is with 2nd/3rd/4th generation as they are ready to 'play ball' it is with the whole idea surrounding sport as a job.

If this initiative is to succeed it is going to take more than one middle-aged Asian ambassador, the scouts, coaches, turnstile ops, programme sellers should be a blended mix of black/white/pink/bro
wn and yellow and nobody should feel as though they don't belong.

Waynus wrote:

Oakenshaw white wrote: If this idea takes off how will city afford a ground the size of Barcelona's Nou camp to fit you all in,you may even push that great team from Beeston for crowd sizes lol.

Didn't know there was a 'great team' in Beeston. Hunslet Hawks? Or were you thinking of the club sponsored by skips, just living off past memories. Third rate club for third rate fans. Hardly 'great'.

League titles
First Division (Tier 1)
Winners (3) 1968–69, 1973–74, 1991–92
Runners-up (5) 1964–65, 1965–66, 1969–70, 1970–71, 1971–72
Second Division (Tier 2)
Winners (3) 1923–24, 1963–64, 1989–90
Runners-up (3) 1927–28, 1931–32, 1955–56
Play-Off Runners-up (1) 1986–87
Championship (Tier 2)
Play-Off Runners-up (1) 2005–06
League One (Tier 3)
Play-Off Runners-up (1) 2007–08
Cups
FA Cup
Winners (1) 1972
Runners-up (3) 1965, 1970, 1973
League Cup
Winners (1) 1968
Runners-up (1) 1996
FA Charity Shield
Winners (2) 1969, 1992
Runners-up (1) 1974
FA Youth Cup
Winners (2) 1993, 1997

European honours


European Cup
Runners-up (1) 1975
UEFA Champions League
Semi-finalists (1) 2001
Inter-Cities Fairs Cup
Winners (2) 1968, 1971
Runners-up (1) 1967
Inter-Cities Fairs Cup Trophy Play-Off (1971) – Runners-up
(Decided who kept the trophy when the competition was replaced by the UEFA Cup)
UEFA Cup
Semi-finalists (1) 2000
European Cup Winners' Cup
Runners-up (1) 1973
A lot of good memories though perhaps you could list yours.

Waynus - cricket is like a religion in India & Pakistan. When I went there, people were playing it everywhere. This is why you see what you do in the parks.

League Honours

Lvl Relevant division name(s) Position Seasons
2 Second Division, League Division One Champions 1907/1908.
Runners-up 1998/1999.
3 Third Division (North), Third Division Champions 1928/1929, 1984/1985.
4 Fourth Division Runners-up 1981/1982.


Domestic Cup Honours

Relevant cup name(s) Position Seasons
F.A. Cup Winners 1910/1911.
Football League Play-Offs (Lvl 3) Winners 1995/1996

Not many european trips there for you Waynus,perhaps one day you might get to watch your team in europe albeit sat on a bar stool in Tenerife watching them on the tv.

Oakenshaw white wrote:
League Honours Lvl Relevant division name(s) Position Seasons 2 Second Division, League Division One Champions 1907/1908. Runners-up 1998/1999. 3 Third Division (North), Third Division Champions 1928/1929, 1984/1985. 4 Fourth Division Runners-up 1981/1982. Domestic Cup Honours Relevant cup name(s) Position Seasons F.A. Cup Winners 1910/1911. Football League Play-Offs (Lvl 3) Winners 1995/1996 Not many european trips there for you Waynus,perhaps one day you might get to watch your team in europe albeit sat on a bar stool in Tenerife watching them on the tv.

As I said, "living off past memories".

When will you next be in Europe? Sorry, the pre-season trip to Ireland or perhaps playing League 2 teams in Norway.

In relation to 'honours', I see the word 'runners-up' appears quite a few times. Hardly an honour!

UEFA Champions League Runners-up 2001, but where are you now!!!! One league above City. GLORIOUS mate, GLORIOUS!

Hi as a bradfordian and yorkshireman that I am I follow City whenever I can - I have also returned to steward activities at BCFC and can say its been a pleasure to be back. I have also noticed a few asian faces in the stands and also have taken my daughter to see city- My son who is 2 at the moment will also be coming to watch. I do hope we can get more supporters in from all backgrounds but there is nothing wrong with a targetted approach.
Couple of pointers if i may
1. there must be intgration- not segregation i.e no seperate asian stand.
2. Language/abuse - as City has a family stand those who are going to be offended need to sit in the family stand but be warned that
- The F- word does seem to automatically come out of any Fans mouth or other such words the referee is a W????? or the urrrrrrrrrrrrrr you fat Bas?????? aHHHHHHHH you cannot stop these so people should not be offended on hearing this. Please correct me here if im wrong
3. Food/drink some form of asian food stuffs to be made avilable - Im sure Mr Khan can sub some of his starters to BCFC for sale during half time??
4. My son who I want to enjoy playing football, could be the next McCall or Windass- BCFC should have a scheme in place to capture hidden asian talent.


Lets get away from any bias here as im sure al lwe want to achive is to have more people in supporting city - and there is no stronger voice then all of us singing CITY TILL I DIE!!

Thank you

I've been a City fan all my life and since the 90’s I’ve always seen Asian supporters at Valley Parade and even occasionally at away grounds. There's a 'Sikh' gentlemen who sits near me in the Ciba Stand and he's been supporting the club for many years without any trouble. The doors to ‘Valley Parade’ have always been open we just need more people to come through the gates regardless of race, colour or religion..

Waynus wrote:

Oakenshaw white wrote: League Honours Lvl Relevant division name(s) Position Seasons 2 Second Division, League Division One Champions 1907/1908. Runners-up 1998/1999. 3 Third Division (North), Third Division Champions 1928/1929, 1984/1985. 4 Fourth Division Runners-up 1981/1982. Domestic Cup Honours Relevant cup name(s) Position Seasons F.A. Cup Winners 1910/1911. Football League Play-Offs (Lvl 3) Winners 1995/1996 Not many european trips there for you Waynus,perhaps one day you might get to watch your team in europe albeit sat on a bar stool in Tenerife watching them on the tv.

As I said, "living off past memories". When will you next be in Europe? Sorry, the pre-season trip to Ireland or perhaps playing League 2 teams in Norway. In relation to 'honours', I see the word 'runners-up' appears quite a few times. Hardly an honour! UEFA Champions League Runners-up 2001, but where are you now!!!! One league above City. GLORIOUS mate, GLORIOUS!

Agree mate we are only a division above you and not a great team but over the last 30yrs i have had the pleasure of watching Leeds play all over Europe including the european cup final in paris something you will never have the pleasure of witnessing,I now look foreward to saturdays home game with probably 25,000+ third rate fans as you put it something else you can only dream of even with your cheap season tickets, be intersting to see how many you would get paying the prices uncle Ken makes us pay.at least i know (although it will take time)that one day Leeds will be big again unlike Bradford.

Oakenshaw white wrote:

Waynus wrote:

Oakenshaw white wrote: If this idea takes off how will city afford a ground the size of Barcelona's Nou camp to fit you all in,you may even push that great team from Beeston for crowd sizes lol.

Didn't know there was a 'great team' in Beeston. Hunslet Hawks? Or were you thinking of the club sponsored by skips, just living off past memories. Third rate club for third rate fans. Hardly 'great'.

League titles First Division (Tier 1) Winners (3) 1968–69, 1973–74, 1991–92 Runners-up (5) 1964–65, 1965–66, 1969–70, 1970–71, 1971–72 Second Division (Tier 2) Winners (3) 1923–24, 1963–64, 1989–90 Runners-up (3) 1927–28, 1931–32, 1955–56 Play-Off Runners-up (1) 1986–87 Championship (Tier 2) Play-Off Runners-up (1) 2005–06 League One (Tier 3) Play-Off Runners-up (1) 2007–08 Cups FA Cup Winners (1) 1972 Runners-up (3) 1965, 1970, 1973 League Cup Winners (1) 1968 Runners-up (1) 1996 FA Charity Shield Winners (2) 1969, 1992 Runners-up (1) 1974 FA Youth Cup Winners (2) 1993, 1997 European honours European Cup Runners-up (1) 1975 UEFA Champions League Semi-finalists (1) 2001 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup Winners (2) 1968, 1971 Runners-up (1) 1967 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup Trophy Play-Off (1971) – Runners-up (Decided who kept the trophy when the competition was replaced by the UEFA Cup) UEFA Cup Semi-finalists (1) 2000 European Cup Winners' Cup Runners-up (1) 1973 A lot of good memories though perhaps you could list yours.

Blyth Spartan have an history list too does that make them BIG??

Prob had to come on a Bradford website to get some sense neanderthal. Well done for been able to read as well knuckle scraper. You'll need to do this from now on. I suggest you start buying old Rothman's from e bay as thats the only place your gonna read about any succes from now on.

I'nt Oakenshaw a Kirklee's borough anyway. If you were going to glory hunt you chose the wrong team plonker

Oakenshaw white wrote:

Waynus wrote:

Oakenshaw white wrote: League Honours Lvl Relevant division name(s) Position Seasons 2 Second Division, League Division One Champions 1907/1908. Runners-up 1998/1999. 3 Third Division (North), Third Division Champions 1928/1929, 1984/1985. 4 Fourth Division Runners-up 1981/1982. Domestic Cup Honours Relevant cup name(s) Position Seasons F.A. Cup Winners 1910/1911. Football League Play-Offs (Lvl 3) Winners 1995/1996 Not many european trips there for you Waynus,perhaps one day you might get to watch your team in europe albeit sat on a bar stool in Tenerife watching them on the tv.

As I said, "living off past memories". When will you next be in Europe? Sorry, the pre-season trip to Ireland or perhaps playing League 2 teams in Norway. In relation to 'honours', I see the word 'runners-up' appears quite a few times. Hardly an honour! UEFA Champions League Runners-up 2001, but where are you now!!!! One league above City. GLORIOUS mate, GLORIOUS!

Agree mate we are only a division above you and not a great team but over the last 30yrs i have had the pleasure of watching Leeds play all over Europe including the european cup final in paris something you will never have the pleasure of witnessing,I now look foreward to saturdays home game with probably 25,000+ third rate fans as you put it something else you can only dream of even with your cheap season tickets, be intersting to see how many you would get paying the prices uncle Ken makes us pay.at least i know (although it will take time)that one day Leeds will be big again unlike Bradford.

What was that again? I was still mesmerised by your history. No, that's not right. I was still laughing at you having to tip your weeks wages to Mr Bates to watch 3rd rate football. Now I'm starting to feel sorry for you.

"i have had the pleasure of watching Leeds play all over Europe including the european cup final in paris something you will never have the pleasure of witnessing". Why would I want to watch Leeds play all over Europe? If I am going to watch a team in Europe I would rather go on our tour to Ireland than yours. That's the only way you will be watching European games in the future.

Bubble has burst and Bates is holding the pin!

I was still laughing at you having to tip your weeks wages to Mr Bates to watch 3rd rate football. Now I'm starting to feel sorry for you.
Thats the difference between Leeds and Bradford fans mate, i will pay top dollar to watch my team because i,m a fan unlike your lot who as soon as the ticket prices go back up will see your crowds plummet,see your main sponsor has pulled out next year as well be nice seeing how you cope with another administration and -15 points.

dannbradfc wrote:

Oakenshaw white wrote:

Waynus wrote:

Oakenshaw white wrote: If this idea takes off how will city afford a ground the size of Barcelona's Nou camp to fit you all in,you may even push that great team from Beeston for crowd sizes lol.

Didn't know there was a 'great team' in Beeston. Hunslet Hawks? Or were you thinking of the club sponsored by skips, just living off past memories. Third rate club for third rate fans. Hardly 'great'.

League titles First Division (Tier 1) Winners (3) 1968–69, 1973–74, 1991–92 Runners-up (5) 1964–65, 1965–66, 1969–70, 1970–71, 1971–72 Second Division (Tier 2) Winners (3) 1923–24, 1963–64, 1989–90 Runners-up (3) 1927–28, 1931–32, 1955–56 Play-Off Runners-up (1) 1986–87 Championship (Tier 2) Play-Off Runners-up (1) 2005–06 League One (Tier 3) Play-Off Runners-up (1) 2007–08 Cups FA Cup Winners (1) 1972 Runners-up (3) 1965, 1970, 1973 League Cup Winners (1) 1968 Runners-up (1) 1996 FA Charity Shield Winners (2) 1969, 1992 Runners-up (1) 1974 FA Youth Cup Winners (2) 1993, 1997 European honours European Cup Runners-up (1) 1975 UEFA Champions League Semi-finalists (1) 2001 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup Winners (2) 1968, 1971 Runners-up (1) 1967 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup Trophy Play-Off (1971) – Runners-up (Decided who kept the trophy when the competition was replaced by the UEFA Cup) UEFA Cup Semi-finalists (1) 2000 European Cup Winners' Cup Runners-up (1) 1973 A lot of good memories though perhaps you could list yours.

Blyth Spartan have an history list too does that make them BIG?? Prob had to come on a Bradford website to get some sense neanderthal. Well done for been able to read as well knuckle scraper. You'll need to do this from now on. I suggest you start buying old Rothman's from e bay as thats the only place your gonna read about any succes from now on. I'nt Oakenshaw a Kirklee's borough anyway. If you were going to glory hunt you chose the wrong team plonker

You may want to study a bit harder at school today and sort out your grammar before calling someone a knuckle scraper,have a nice day.

Oakenshaw white wrote:
I was still laughing at you having to tip your weeks wages to Mr Bates to watch 3rd rate football. Now I'm starting to feel sorry for you. Thats the difference between Leeds and Bradford fans mate, i will pay top dollar to watch my team because i,m a fan unlike your lot who as soon as the ticket prices go back up will see your crowds plummet,see your main sponsor has pulled out next year as well be nice seeing how you cope with another administration and -15 points.

Is that so? Where are all your loyal fans then? I remember a few years back, you were getting gates close to 40k, now you only just half that figure. That is unless you have a BIG GAME, against one of the TOP 4. (Yeah that's right, it's Leicester, MK Dons, Millwall & Peterborough now isn't it? How the mighty have fallen)!

You will find that I have paid for a season ticket every year since I started earning a crust. As for not getting opportunity of seeing my team in European competition, I saw 2 games away in the qualifying competition a few years back (2000/01). Admittedly, it wasn't Champions League, but it was European competition.

As for the Main Sponsor pulling out, we have already been paid for this season, so no real shakes. It was expected, so we move on and agree a new deal elsewhere.

Just goes to show you doesn't it? You were getting BIG sponsors a few years back, such as Burton, Top Man, Thistle Hotels, Packard Bell & even strongbow. Now you have to settle for a third rate newspaper (YEP) where their target audience would actually rather read the T&A website!!!!

Freespeech,My beliefs come from standing in the paddock in the 70s,early 80s watching the stones rain down on the divided kop , and the anger vented on the local residents if city lost ,so whilst times may have changed at V.P,The locals proberbly still remember the behaviour of a few fans of that era.And as such are loath to let their kin attend games today.

Has anyone ever met a Leeds fan that they actually like?
MOT my ar5e - is that why their gates have halved?
Nuff said!

Meat Pie wrote:
Odshapeballs - I do live in Bradford actually though I work in MK Monday to Friday. This is actually my choice as I love coming home though in doing so my life is made considerably harder than if I moved down south. By the way, house prices in Bradford have risen way above the national average over the past 5 years due to the close proximity of Bradford to Leeds; the finance centre of the north - and the depressed proce of property in the area prior to this boom period. So, I don't need to come and look at "El Paradiso" 'cause I live there and live there through choice, not necessity. Fine if you want to call me a "muppet" though it's you who needs to check your facts.

This is why the average semi in Leeds is 40-50K more than Bfd of course prices are going to go up as people in Leeds can no longer afford the prices. It still puts house prices in bfd light years behind.
Can understand wanting to get away from grid city but to look forward to coming home to Bradford you must have one good sex life at home

Waynus wrote:

Oakenshaw white wrote: If this idea takes off how will city afford a ground the size of Barcelona's Nou camp to fit you all in,you may even push that great team from Beeston for crowd sizes lol.

Didn't know there was a 'great team' in Beeston. Hunslet Hawks? Or were you thinking of the club sponsored by skips, just living off past memories. Third rate club for third rate fans. Hardly 'great'.

Aren't hunslet hawks from another area of Leeds other than Beeston?

i8soccer wrote:

Meat Pie wrote:
Odshapeballs - I do live in Bradford actually though I work in MK Monday to Friday. This is actually my choice as I love coming home though in doing so my life is made considerably harder than if I moved down south. By the way, house prices in Bradford have risen way above the national average over the past 5 years due to the close proximity of Bradford to Leeds; the finance centre of the north - and the depressed proce of property in the area prior to this boom period. So, I don't need to come and look at "El Paradiso" 'cause I live there and live there through choice, not necessity. Fine if you want to call me a "muppet" though it's you who needs to check your facts.

This is why the average semi in Leeds is 40-50K more than Bfd of course prices are going to go up as people in Leeds can no longer afford the prices. It still puts house prices in bfd light years behind.
Can understand wanting to get away from grid city but to look forward to coming home to Bradford you must have one good sex life at home

You really are a freak, aren't you 'oddshapedballs'. You live in Bradford yourself, but spend all your time slagging off our City and our football club. You loser!

If you don't like football, stop reading the stories. Or is it because you don't get any attention at home.

Bitty for Loser (Sorry, I meant oddshapedballs OR i8soccer)

dear me

if you guys were representatives of VP and valley parade in general, god help us.

i speak of course of the naysayers.