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Medley turns down City offer

7:01am Thursday 5th June 2008

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Luke Medley has rejected the chance to stay at Valley Parade.

The young striker is understood to have verbally turned down the one-year offer on the table from City.

He has until Saturday to put it in writing before the three-week deadline is up and the deal is withdrawn. But he is thought to be looking for somewhere nearer to his London roots.

Medley, 19 later this month, scored twice last season - including a sensational volley against Wrexham in August with his first touch to clinch Stuart McCall's opening win in charge.

His other goal came from the penalty spot at Wycombe on the final day of the season on his only start.

Medley, who joined City after a successful trial when David Wetherall was in temporary charge, made eight appearances from the bench. He also had a brief loan spell with non-league Cambridge City.

Because of his age, City would be entitled to a small compensation fee if Medley signs for another club as they have made him a contract offer.

Medley's departure leaves McCall with last season's top scorer Peter Thorne, Barry Conlon and Willy Topp as his attacking options.

He is in the market for at least one new striker and talks have taken place with Huddersfield's Luke Beckett.

Michael Boulding, who has left Mansfield, and Halifax's John Shaw have also been linked with Valley Parade. Meanwhile, the club's season-ticket push could be swelled by an unexpected source - Halifax Town fans.

A local businessman has come up with a financial incentive to persuade Shaymen followers to take in matches at Valley Parade as well as watching their own team.

City fan Glenn Ackroyd, whose property firm A Quick Sale is based in Halifax, is offering to cough up £51 towards the cost of a season-ticket for any Town supporter - leaving them £99 to pay.

Joint-chairman Mark Lawn said: "Glenn isn't trying to turn anyone into Bradford City fans by doing this. But he wants to give them the chance to see some league football as well as watching Halifax and enjoy the best of both worlds.

"It's a genuine offer from Glenn. All they have to do is bring proof of ID to the ticket office with two utility bills showing a Halifax post-code and they can purchase a season-ticket for £99. Obviously this does not apply to any Bradford City fan who lives in that area. We have quite a few on our database with Halifax post-codes."

The Valley Parade box office is open from 9am to 5pm Monday to Saturday and 10-4pm on Sundays leading up to the half-price deadline on June 15.

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Size3, Woodside or Bradford City Center says...
7:20am Thu 5 Jun 08

Who cares?

Apart from his one-in-a-lifetime wondergoal, what has he done?

Good luck to him, wherever he goes though.

Size3, Woodside or Bradford City Center says...
7:20am Thu 5 Jun 08

Who cares?

Apart from his one-in-a-lifetime wondergoal, what has he done?

Good luck to him, wherever he goes though.

Size3, Woodside or Bradford City Center says...
7:20am Thu 5 Jun 08

Who cares?

Apart from his one-in-a-lifetime wondergoal, what has he done?

Good luck to him, wherever he goes though.

Woodface, Perth, Australia says...
7:29am Thu 5 Jun 08

Good luck to him i say. He probably couldn't wait to get out the **** hole, although parts of London aren't much better, actually Englands gone down the swan full stop. Anyways it may be a blessing in disguise with Luke Beckett(a Striker) in the mix.. This Halifax deal seems bizarre to me? anyone else think theres more to it than meets the eye? or am i being Cynical?

Woodface, Perth, Australia says...
7:29am Thu 5 Jun 08

Good luck to him i say. He probably couldn't wait to get out the **** hole, although parts of London aren't much better, actually Englands gone down the swan full stop. Anyways it may be a blessing in disguise with Luke Beckett(a Striker) in the mix.. This Halifax deal seems bizarre to me? anyone else think theres more to it than meets the eye? or am i being Cynical?

Woodface, Perth, Australia says...
7:29am Thu 5 Jun 08

Good luck to him i say. He probably couldn't wait to get out the **** hole, although parts of London aren't much better, actually Englands gone down the swan full stop. Anyways it may be a blessing in disguise with Luke Beckett(a Striker) in the mix.. This Halifax deal seems bizarre to me? anyone else think theres more to it than meets the eye? or am i being Cynical?

Big Mal, Bradford says...
7:58am Thu 5 Jun 08

I don't blame the lad. He was never given a fair crack of the whip.

Big Mal, Bradford says...
7:58am Thu 5 Jun 08

I don't blame the lad. He was never given a fair crack of the whip.

Big Mal, Bradford says...
7:58am Thu 5 Jun 08

I don't blame the lad. He was never given a fair crack of the whip.

Woodface, Perth, Australia says...
8:05am Thu 5 Jun 08

Big Mal wrote:
I don't blame the lad. He was never given a fair crack of the whip.
yeah, i heard he was in the bad books with management for being unsociable with alot of the his team mates(snubbed team outings and social events). Had a problem at Cambridge if he didn't get a game too.

Woodface, Perth, Australia says...
8:05am Thu 5 Jun 08

Big Mal wrote:
I don't blame the lad. He was never given a fair crack of the whip.
yeah, i heard he was in the bad books with management for being unsociable with alot of the his team mates(snubbed team outings and social events). Had a problem at Cambridge if he didn't get a game too.

Woodface, Perth, Australia says...
8:05am Thu 5 Jun 08

Big Mal wrote:
I don't blame the lad. He was never given a fair crack of the whip.
yeah, i heard he was in the bad books with management for being unsociable with alot of the his team mates(snubbed team outings and social events). Had a problem at Cambridge if he didn't get a game too.

JM, Skipton says...
8:08am Thu 5 Jun 08

yes he was given a fiar crack of the whip. he had a few sub games (Wrexham, Grimsby away) but plenty of average ones. when we had other strikers who were clearly better what is the manager supposed to do, look after Bradford City and what's best for them or look after Luke Medley?
in the final few games he got a chance and did ok at best, and was offered a deal. the move for Beckett/boulding. And already having Topp/Thorne/Conlon suggest Medley will only be a reserve player again next season, fair enough that he doesn't want to stick around and fight for his place. He was given his chance and fans always forget reserve games and training. Is he good enough to lead City to a promotion push next year, ahead of strikers like Thorne etc, the answer is no. good luck in the future but for gods sake lets not start a thoughtless moan thread that Medley never got a decent chance!

JM, Skipton says...
8:08am Thu 5 Jun 08

yes he was given a fiar crack of the whip. he had a few sub games (Wrexham, Grimsby away) but plenty of average ones. when we had other strikers who were clearly better what is the manager supposed to do, look after Bradford City and what's best for them or look after Luke Medley?
in the final few games he got a chance and did ok at best, and was offered a deal. the move for Beckett/boulding. And already having Topp/Thorne/Conlon suggest Medley will only be a reserve player again next season, fair enough that he doesn't want to stick around and fight for his place. He was given his chance and fans always forget reserve games and training. Is he good enough to lead City to a promotion push next year, ahead of strikers like Thorne etc, the answer is no. good luck in the future but for gods sake lets not start a thoughtless moan thread that Medley never got a decent chance!

JM, Skipton says...
8:08am Thu 5 Jun 08

yes he was given a fiar crack of the whip. he had a few sub games (Wrexham, Grimsby away) but plenty of average ones. when we had other strikers who were clearly better what is the manager supposed to do, look after Bradford City and what's best for them or look after Luke Medley?
in the final few games he got a chance and did ok at best, and was offered a deal. the move for Beckett/boulding. And already having Topp/Thorne/Conlon suggest Medley will only be a reserve player again next season, fair enough that he doesn't want to stick around and fight for his place. He was given his chance and fans always forget reserve games and training. Is he good enough to lead City to a promotion push next year, ahead of strikers like Thorne etc, the answer is no. good luck in the future but for gods sake lets not start a thoughtless moan thread that Medley never got a decent chance!

Rick, Five Lane Ends says...
8:13am Thu 5 Jun 08

It is good publicity for Glenn Ackroyds' firm "A Quick Sale".

Halifax Towns' Support is around 1500 approx.; so if 500 apply for Season Tickets @ 'City'. Then it will cost the Company-'Quick Sale' £25,500. 'City' would obtain £49,500.

I am not familiar with Company Taxation Law, and the Creative Accountancy that could be applied to this 'Business Deal'. But could the cost of £25,500 be used to offset the pre-tax profits of 'Quick Sale'?.
This may go some way to explaining this 'Deal'.

If other Businesses think this could be a viable taxation move, then please make your offers now to the people of Bradford!!( Before The June 15 Deadline; and back date your offer, to all those who have already purchased their Season Tickets!).
DEAL-or NO DEAL!!!!!!

Rick, Five Lane Ends says...
8:13am Thu 5 Jun 08

It is good publicity for Glenn Ackroyds' firm "A Quick Sale".

Halifax Towns' Support is around 1500 approx.; so if 500 apply for Season Tickets @ 'City'. Then it will cost the Company-'Quick Sale' £25,500. 'City' would obtain £49,500.

I am not familiar with Company Taxation Law, and the Creative Accountancy that could be applied to this 'Business Deal'. But could the cost of £25,500 be used to offset the pre-tax profits of 'Quick Sale'?.
This may go some way to explaining this 'Deal'.

If other Businesses think this could be a viable taxation move, then please make your offers now to the people of Bradford!!( Before The June 15 Deadline; and back date your offer, to all those who have already purchased their Season Tickets!).
DEAL-or NO DEAL!!!!!!

Rick, Five Lane Ends says...
8:13am Thu 5 Jun 08

It is good publicity for Glenn Ackroyds' firm "A Quick Sale".

Halifax Towns' Support is around 1500 approx.; so if 500 apply for Season Tickets @ 'City'. Then it will cost the Company-'Quick Sale' £25,500. 'City' would obtain £49,500.

I am not familiar with Company Taxation Law, and the Creative Accountancy that could be applied to this 'Business Deal'. But could the cost of £25,500 be used to offset the pre-tax profits of 'Quick Sale'?.
This may go some way to explaining this 'Deal'.

If other Businesses think this could be a viable taxation move, then please make your offers now to the people of Bradford!!( Before The June 15 Deadline; and back date your offer, to all those who have already purchased their Season Tickets!).
DEAL-or NO DEAL!!!!!!

tyker, midland road says...
8:23am Thu 5 Jun 08

no point in trying to hang on to MEDLEY if he is felling home sick or whatever.

We have done the right thing by him by offerring a better contract so if he feels he can do better nearer home then so be it: cannot think of too mnay league clubs he could joing though!!

tyker, midland road says...
8:23am Thu 5 Jun 08

no point in trying to hang on to MEDLEY if he is felling home sick or whatever.

We have done the right thing by him by offerring a better contract so if he feels he can do better nearer home then so be it: cannot think of too mnay league clubs he could joing though!!

tyker, midland road says...
8:23am Thu 5 Jun 08

no point in trying to hang on to MEDLEY if he is felling home sick or whatever.

We have done the right thing by him by offerring a better contract so if he feels he can do better nearer home then so be it: cannot think of too mnay league clubs he could joing though!!

Woodface, Perth, Australia says...
8:23am Thu 5 Jun 08

Rick wrote:
It is good publicity for Glenn Ackroyds' firm "A Quick Sale". Halifax Towns' Support is around 1500 approx.; so if 500 apply for Season Tickets @ 'City'. Then it will cost the Company-'Quick Sale' £25,500. 'City' would obtain £49,500. I am not familiar with Company Taxation Law, and the Creative Accountancy that could be applied to this 'Business Deal'. But could the cost of £25,500 be used to offset the pre-tax profits of 'Quick Sale'?. This may go some way to explaining this 'Deal'. If other Businesses think this could be a viable taxation move, then please make your offers now to the people of Bradford!!( Before The June 15 Deadline; and back date your offer, to all those who have already purchased their Season Tickets!). DEAL-or NO DEAL!!!!!!
ha ha!..

Woodface, Perth, Australia says...
8:23am Thu 5 Jun 08

Rick wrote:
It is good publicity for Glenn Ackroyds' firm "A Quick Sale". Halifax Towns' Support is around 1500 approx.; so if 500 apply for Season Tickets @ 'City'. Then it will cost the Company-'Quick Sale' £25,500. 'City' would obtain £49,500. I am not familiar with Company Taxation Law, and the Creative Accountancy that could be applied to this 'Business Deal'. But could the cost of £25,500 be used to offset the pre-tax profits of 'Quick Sale'?. This may go some way to explaining this 'Deal'. If other Businesses think this could be a viable taxation move, then please make your offers now to the people of Bradford!!( Before The June 15 Deadline; and back date your offer, to all those who have already purchased their Season Tickets!). DEAL-or NO DEAL!!!!!!
ha ha!..

Woodface, Perth, Australia says...
8:23am Thu 5 Jun 08

Rick wrote:
It is good publicity for Glenn Ackroyds' firm "A Quick Sale". Halifax Towns' Support is around 1500 approx.; so if 500 apply for Season Tickets @ 'City'. Then it will cost the Company-'Quick Sale' £25,500. 'City' would obtain £49,500. I am not familiar with Company Taxation Law, and the Creative Accountancy that could be applied to this 'Business Deal'. But could the cost of £25,500 be used to offset the pre-tax profits of 'Quick Sale'?. This may go some way to explaining this 'Deal'. If other Businesses think this could be a viable taxation move, then please make your offers now to the people of Bradford!!( Before The June 15 Deadline; and back date your offer, to all those who have already purchased their Season Tickets!). DEAL-or NO DEAL!!!!!!
ha ha!..

tyker, midland road says...
8:45am Thu 5 Jun 08

interesting business idea:

as regards taxation :is there an actual loss?. The costs will simply be put down to advertising and promotion costs in the accounts of his business and thereby reduce his taxable profits for the year. Whether the Revenue will allow that form of tax deduction is unclear but expect them to ask questions when the accounts covering this period are filed to establish whether all the costs are true running costs of the business as opposed to a personal gesture on behalf of the director.

A good idea though but there never has been much history of supporters of one club regularly following other clubs in person.

tyker, midland road says...
8:45am Thu 5 Jun 08

interesting business idea:

as regards taxation :is there an actual loss?. The costs will simply be put down to advertising and promotion costs in the accounts of his business and thereby reduce his taxable profits for the year. Whether the Revenue will allow that form of tax deduction is unclear but expect them to ask questions when the accounts covering this period are filed to establish whether all the costs are true running costs of the business as opposed to a personal gesture on behalf of the director.

A good idea though but there never has been much history of supporters of one club regularly following other clubs in person.

tyker, midland road says...
8:45am Thu 5 Jun 08

interesting business idea:

as regards taxation :is there an actual loss?. The costs will simply be put down to advertising and promotion costs in the accounts of his business and thereby reduce his taxable profits for the year. Whether the Revenue will allow that form of tax deduction is unclear but expect them to ask questions when the accounts covering this period are filed to establish whether all the costs are true running costs of the business as opposed to a personal gesture on behalf of the director.

A good idea though but there never has been much history of supporters of one club regularly following other clubs in person.

gman, bradford says...
9:22am Thu 5 Jun 08

After that wonder goal i thing we all thought we had somet special on our hands but he quickly proved us wrong with some average displays....good luck to the lad for the future.

gman, bradford says...
9:22am Thu 5 Jun 08

After that wonder goal i thing we all thought we had somet special on our hands but he quickly proved us wrong with some average displays....good luck to the lad for the future.

gman, bradford says...
9:22am Thu 5 Jun 08

After that wonder goal i thing we all thought we had somet special on our hands but he quickly proved us wrong with some average displays....good luck to the lad for the future.

James, Cullingworth says...
9:25am Thu 5 Jun 08

Quick comment on the Medley issue - He's young, raw and if he's not settled up here then we wont get the best out of him. I wish him all the best in his search for a new club.

As for the offer - wonderful idea, however how many Shaymen have taken up the cheap Huddersfield Town ticket already (Town have sold in excess of 15,000!).

Anyway hopefully the scheme will bring in a few extra supporters and give Halifax fans the opportunity to watch league football again.

James, Cullingworth says...
9:25am Thu 5 Jun 08

Quick comment on the Medley issue - He's young, raw and if he's not settled up here then we wont get the best out of him. I wish him all the best in his search for a new club.

As for the offer - wonderful idea, however how many Shaymen have taken up the cheap Huddersfield Town ticket already (Town have sold in excess of 15,000!).

Anyway hopefully the scheme will bring in a few extra supporters and give Halifax fans the opportunity to watch league football again.

James, Cullingworth says...
9:25am Thu 5 Jun 08

Quick comment on the Medley issue - He's young, raw and if he's not settled up here then we wont get the best out of him. I wish him all the best in his search for a new club.

As for the offer - wonderful idea, however how many Shaymen have taken up the cheap Huddersfield Town ticket already (Town have sold in excess of 15,000!).

Anyway hopefully the scheme will bring in a few extra supporters and give Halifax fans the opportunity to watch league football again.

keeponclucking, bradford says...
9:28am Thu 5 Jun 08

I'm horrified to find we are now 9-1 favourites with Bet 365 to win the 2nd Div title. Whilst I hope they are right they obviously didn't see our defence play last season & I'm not sure we need the pressure of expectation as it didn't help us in the last campaign. How about a debate on Willy Topp? He came in a blaze of publicity but is constantly injured, made only 6 appearances (5 as sub)& has perfected the art of play acting. Whilst he undoubtedly has talent will he ever make an impact? Seems strange that some folk say signing Beckett is a luxury we can't afford when we are 'carrying'this chap...your thoughts please!

keeponclucking, bradford says...
9:28am Thu 5 Jun 08

I'm horrified to find we are now 9-1 favourites with Bet 365 to win the 2nd Div title. Whilst I hope they are right they obviously didn't see our defence play last season & I'm not sure we need the pressure of expectation as it didn't help us in the last campaign. How about a debate on Willy Topp? He came in a blaze of publicity but is constantly injured, made only 6 appearances (5 as sub)& has perfected the art of play acting. Whilst he undoubtedly has talent will he ever make an impact? Seems strange that some folk say signing Beckett is a luxury we can't afford when we are 'carrying'this chap...your thoughts please!

keeponclucking, bradford says...
9:28am Thu 5 Jun 08

I'm horrified to find we are now 9-1 favourites with Bet 365 to win the 2nd Div title. Whilst I hope they are right they obviously didn't see our defence play last season & I'm not sure we need the pressure of expectation as it didn't help us in the last campaign. How about a debate on Willy Topp? He came in a blaze of publicity but is constantly injured, made only 6 appearances (5 as sub)& has perfected the art of play acting. Whilst he undoubtedly has talent will he ever make an impact? Seems strange that some folk say signing Beckett is a luxury we can't afford when we are 'carrying'this chap...your thoughts please!

jimbo77, hove says...
9:36am Thu 5 Jun 08

Who can blame him really?Bradford's a bit of a dump, and its inhabitants are clearly a bit thick - how else can you explain the fact that last year 12,000 season tickets were sold (inc 9,000 adults), and this year, with an unbelievable buy-one-get-one-free offer on the table....? The "I am waiting for my fried to buy one" is the logic of the playground.

jimbo77, hove says...
9:36am Thu 5 Jun 08

Who can blame him really?Bradford's a bit of a dump, and its inhabitants are clearly a bit thick - how else can you explain the fact that last year 12,000 season tickets were sold (inc 9,000 adults), and this year, with an unbelievable buy-one-get-one-free offer on the table....? The "I am waiting for my fried to buy one" is the logic of the playground.

jimbo77, hove says...
9:36am Thu 5 Jun 08

Who can blame him really?Bradford's a bit of a dump, and its inhabitants are clearly a bit thick - how else can you explain the fact that last year 12,000 season tickets were sold (inc 9,000 adults), and this year, with an unbelievable buy-one-get-one-free offer on the table....? The "I am waiting for my fried to buy one" is the logic of the playground.

keeponclucking, bradford says...
9:41am Thu 5 Jun 08

Just to add to my last posting - Our Strikers(!?).That's Medley gone,E Johnson gone,Topp always injured,Daley useless up front,Thorne prone to injury & Conlon unable to hit a cows backside with a banjo...but we still don't need a striker who has averaged 1 goal every 2 games...Madness!!

keeponclucking, bradford says...
9:41am Thu 5 Jun 08

Just to add to my last posting - Our Strikers(!?).That's Medley gone,E Johnson gone,Topp always injured,Daley useless up front,Thorne prone to injury & Conlon unable to hit a cows backside with a banjo...but we still don't need a striker who has averaged 1 goal every 2 games...Madness!!

keeponclucking, bradford says...
9:41am Thu 5 Jun 08

Just to add to my last posting - Our Strikers(!?).That's Medley gone,E Johnson gone,Topp always injured,Daley useless up front,Thorne prone to injury & Conlon unable to hit a cows backside with a banjo...but we still don't need a striker who has averaged 1 goal every 2 games...Madness!!

Bendix, skipton says...
9:47am Thu 5 Jun 08

keeponclucking wrote:
I'm horrified to find we are now 9-1 favourites with Bet 365 to win the 2nd Div title. Whilst I hope they are right they obviously didn't see our defence play last season & I'm not sure we need the pressure of expectation as it didn't help us in the last campaign. How about a debate on Willy Topp? He came in a blaze of publicity but is constantly injured, made only 6 appearances (5 as sub)& has perfected the art of play acting. Whilst he undoubtedly has talent will he ever make an impact? Seems strange that some folk say signing Beckett is a luxury we can't afford when we are 'carrying'this chap...your thoughts please!
A very good post. I had doubts about Willy Topp (zero goals) and the instant fan worship which seemed to be based on the fact that he was from Chile. Similar hysteria surrounded Danny Forrest all because of a wonder goal. Fans saw him as the answer to all their troubles but he wasn't even the answer to Halifax's goal scoring woes.
I've seen some brilliant things from Topp but I'll reserve judgement on him. I'd say if he's not a force in Div 2 next season then you may well be right in suggesting he's a passenger.
As for Woodface's criticisms of this country I'd say things are pretty good in Skipton - and would be even better if all the whingeing Poms sod off to Australia.

Bendix, skipton says...
9:47am Thu 5 Jun 08

keeponclucking wrote:
I'm horrified to find we are now 9-1 favourites with Bet 365 to win the 2nd Div title. Whilst I hope they are right they obviously didn't see our defence play last season & I'm not sure we need the pressure of expectation as it didn't help us in the last campaign. How about a debate on Willy Topp? He came in a blaze of publicity but is constantly injured, made only 6 appearances (5 as sub)& has perfected the art of play acting. Whilst he undoubtedly has talent will he ever make an impact? Seems strange that some folk say signing Beckett is a luxury we can't afford when we are 'carrying'this chap...your thoughts please!
A very good post. I had doubts about Willy Topp (zero goals) and the instant fan worship which seemed to be based on the fact that he was from Chile. Similar hysteria surrounded Danny Forrest all because of a wonder goal. Fans saw him as the answer to all their troubles but he wasn't even the answer to Halifax's goal scoring woes.
I've seen some brilliant things from Topp but I'll reserve judgement on him. I'd say if he's not a force in Div 2 next season then you may well be right in suggesting he's a passenger.
As for Woodface's criticisms of this country I'd say things are pretty good in Skipton - and would be even better if all the whingeing Poms sod off to Australia.

Bendix, skipton says...
9:47am Thu 5 Jun 08

keeponclucking wrote:
I'm horrified to find we are now 9-1 favourites with Bet 365 to win the 2nd Div title. Whilst I hope they are right they obviously didn't see our defence play last season & I'm not sure we need the pressure of expectation as it didn't help us in the last campaign. How about a debate on Willy Topp? He came in a blaze of publicity but is constantly injured, made only 6 appearances (5 as sub)& has perfected the art of play acting. Whilst he undoubtedly has talent will he ever make an impact? Seems strange that some folk say signing Beckett is a luxury we can't afford when we are 'carrying'this chap...your thoughts please!
A very good post. I had doubts about Willy Topp (zero goals) and the instant fan worship which seemed to be based on the fact that he was from Chile. Similar hysteria surrounded Danny Forrest all because of a wonder goal. Fans saw him as the answer to all their troubles but he wasn't even the answer to Halifax's goal scoring woes.
I've seen some brilliant things from Topp but I'll reserve judgement on him. I'd say if he's not a force in Div 2 next season then you may well be right in suggesting he's a passenger.
As for Woodface's criticisms of this country I'd say things are pretty good in Skipton - and would be even better if all the whingeing Poms sod off to Australia.

Bendix, skipton says...
9:47am Thu 5 Jun 08

keeponclucking wrote:
I'm horrified to find we are now 9-1 favourites with Bet 365 to win the 2nd Div title. Whilst I hope they are right they obviously didn't see our defence play last season & I'm not sure we need the pressure of expectation as it didn't help us in the last campaign. How about a debate on Willy Topp? He came in a blaze of publicity but is constantly injured, made only 6 appearances (5 as sub)& has perfected the art of play acting. Whilst he undoubtedly has talent will he ever make an impact? Seems strange that some folk say signing Beckett is a luxury we can't afford when we are 'carrying'this chap...your thoughts please!
A very good post. I had doubts about Willy Topp (zero goals) and the instant fan worship which seemed to be based on the fact that he was from Chile. Similar hysteria surrounded Danny Forrest all because of a wonder goal. Fans saw him as the answer to all their troubles but he wasn't even the answer to Halifax's goal scoring woes.
I've seen some brilliant things from Topp but I'll reserve judgement on him. I'd say if he's not a force in Div 2 next season then you may well be right in suggesting he's a passenger.
As for Woodface's criticisms of this country I'd say things are pretty good in Skipton - and would be even better if all the whingeing Poms sod off to Australia.

Bendix, skipton says...
9:47am Thu 5 Jun 08

keeponclucking wrote:
I'm horrified to find we are now 9-1 favourites with Bet 365 to win the 2nd Div title. Whilst I hope they are right they obviously didn't see our defence play last season & I'm not sure we need the pressure of expectation as it didn't help us in the last campaign. How about a debate on Willy Topp? He came in a blaze of publicity but is constantly injured, made only 6 appearances (5 as sub)& has perfected the art of play acting. Whilst he undoubtedly has talent will he ever make an impact? Seems strange that some folk say signing Beckett is a luxury we can't afford when we are 'carrying'this chap...your thoughts please!
A very good post. I had doubts about Willy Topp (zero goals) and the instant fan worship which seemed to be based on the fact that he was from Chile. Similar hysteria surrounded Danny Forrest all because of a wonder goal. Fans saw him as the answer to all their troubles but he wasn't even the answer to Halifax's goal scoring woes.
I've seen some brilliant things from Topp but I'll reserve judgement on him. I'd say if he's not a force in Div 2 next season then you may well be right in suggesting he's a passenger.
As for Woodface's criticisms of this country I'd say things are pretty good in Skipton - and would be even better if all the whingeing Poms sod off to Australia.

Bendix, skipton says...
9:47am Thu 5 Jun 08

keeponclucking wrote:
I'm horrified to find we are now 9-1 favourites with Bet 365 to win the 2nd Div title. Whilst I hope they are right they obviously didn't see our defence play last season & I'm not sure we need the pressure of expectation as it didn't help us in the last campaign. How about a debate on Willy Topp? He came in a blaze of publicity but is constantly injured, made only 6 appearances (5 as sub)& has perfected the art of play acting. Whilst he undoubtedly has talent will he ever make an impact? Seems strange that some folk say signing Beckett is a luxury we can't afford when we are 'carrying'this chap...your thoughts please!
A very good post. I had doubts about Willy Topp (zero goals) and the instant fan worship which seemed to be based on the fact that he was from Chile. Similar hysteria surrounded Danny Forrest all because of a wonder goal. Fans saw him as the answer to all their troubles but he wasn't even the answer to Halifax's goal scoring woes.
I've seen some brilliant things from Topp but I'll reserve judgement on him. I'd say if he's not a force in Div 2 next season then you may well be right in suggesting he's a passenger.
As for Woodface's criticisms of this country I'd say things are pretty good in Skipton - and would be even better if all the whingeing Poms sod off to Australia.

gman, bradford says...
9:59am Thu 5 Jun 08

keeponclucking wrote:
I'm horrified to find we are now 9-1 favourites with Bet 365 to win the 2nd Div title. Whilst I hope they are right they obviously didn't see our defence play last season & I'm not sure we need the pressure of expectation as it didn't help us in the last campaign. How about a debate on Willy Topp? He came in a blaze of publicity but is constantly injured, made only 6 appearances (5 as sub)& has perfected the art of play acting. Whilst he undoubtedly has talent will he ever make an impact? Seems strange that some folk say signing Beckett is a luxury we can't afford when we are 'carrying'this chap...your thoughts please!
I am not surprised at all call me an eternal optimist but last season we had a poor season really, a season which stabalised us so not to bad but as far as performances and results went we ere very hit and miss and still managed to finsih 10th - arguably higher if we kept our team for the last game of the season.
So if we make some good signings which i believe we will then why cant we win the league?????
All departments of the team will be strengthened so why cant we win the league??
We weren't as bad as many people made out last season - if the league started in December we would have been up there witht he likes of Peterborough, MK Dons etc so i fully expect us to achieve something next season - with McCall now having learnt what his needed at this level then anything is possible.

I just hope all the supporters are as keen and enthuastic now and at the beggining of the season then they will be once we are flying high!!

I'm sure people on here will call me an idiot or somet on them lines for been optimistic but i see it as realistic!!! Whats up with hoping high??

COME ON CITY

gman, bradford says...
9:59am Thu 5 Jun 08

keeponclucking wrote:
I'm horrified to find we are now 9-1 favourites with Bet 365 to win the 2nd Div title. Whilst I hope they are right they obviously didn't see our defence play last season & I'm not sure we need the pressure of expectation as it didn't help us in the last campaign. How about a debate on Willy Topp? He came in a blaze of publicity but is constantly injured, made only 6 appearances (5 as sub)& has perfected the art of play acting. Whilst he undoubtedly has talent will he ever make an impact? Seems strange that some folk say signing Beckett is a luxury we can't afford when we are 'carrying'this chap...your thoughts please!
I am not surprised at all call me an eternal optimist but last season we had a poor season really, a season which stabalised us so not to bad but as far as performances and results went we ere very hit and miss and still managed to finsih 10th - arguably higher if we kept our team for the last game of the season.
So if we make some good signings which i believe we will then why cant we win the league?????
All departments of the team will be strengthened so why cant we win the league??
We weren't as bad as many people made out last season - if the league started in December we would have been up there witht he likes of Peterborough, MK Dons etc so i fully expect us to achieve something next season - with McCall now having learnt what his needed at this level then anything is possible.

I just hope all the supporters are as keen and enthuastic now and at the beggining of the season then they will be once we are flying high!!

I'm sure people on here will call me an idiot or somet on them lines for been optimistic but i see it as realistic!!! Whats up with hoping high??

COME ON CITY

gman, bradford says...
9:59am Thu 5 Jun 08

keeponclucking wrote:
I'm horrified to find we are now 9-1 favourites with Bet 365 to win the 2nd Div title. Whilst I hope they are right they obviously didn't see our defence play last season & I'm not sure we need the pressure of expectation as it didn't help us in the last campaign. How about a debate on Willy Topp? He came in a blaze of publicity but is constantly injured, made only 6 appearances (5 as sub)& has perfected the art of play acting. Whilst he undoubtedly has talent will he ever make an impact? Seems strange that some folk say signing Beckett is a luxury we can't afford when we are 'carrying'this chap...your thoughts please!
I am not surprised at all call me an eternal optimist but last season we had a poor season really, a season which stabalised us so not to bad but as far as performances and results went we ere very hit and miss and still managed to finsih 10th - arguably higher if we kept our team for the last game of the season.
So if we make some good signings which i believe we will then why cant we win the league?????
All departments of the team will be strengthened so why cant we win the league??
We weren't as bad as many people made out last season - if the league started in December we would have been up there witht he likes of Peterborough, MK Dons etc so i fully expect us to achieve something next season - with McCall now having learnt what his needed at this level then anything is possible.

I just hope all the supporters are as keen and enthuastic now and at the beggining of the season then they will be once we are flying high!!

I'm sure people on here will call me an idiot or somet on them lines for been optimistic but i see it as realistic!!! Whats up with hoping high??

COME ON CITY

keeponclucking, bradford says...
10:04am Thu 5 Jun 08

Bendix -Thanks for the comment.Do you think Woodface really is in Australia or sat in a bedsit somewhere in Bradford surrounded by take away cartons? For someone on the other side of the world he still maintains an incredible hatred for the UK!

keeponclucking, bradford says...
10:04am Thu 5 Jun 08

Bendix -Thanks for the comment.Do you think Woodface really is in Australia or sat in a bedsit somewhere in Bradford surrounded by take away cartons? For someone on the other side of the world he still maintains an incredible hatred for the UK!

keeponclucking, bradford says...
10:04am Thu 5 Jun 08

Bendix -Thanks for the comment.Do you think Woodface really is in Australia or sat in a bedsit somewhere in Bradford surrounded by take away cartons? For someone on the other side of the world he still maintains an incredible hatred for the UK!

keeponclucking, bradford says...
10:12am Thu 5 Jun 08

Gman - I hope you are right & that it's not a case of 'rose tinted spectacles'. I've been supporting City since 1974 & there are a hardcore of supporters who season in season out believe that next year will be their teams year.That's what being a footy fan is all about so I take my hat off to you for your enthuasism.I've still got mine after all these years - still look forward to the fixtures coming out every year - just like a big kid!

keeponclucking, bradford says...
10:12am Thu 5 Jun 08

Gman - I hope you are right & that it's not a case of 'rose tinted spectacles'. I've been supporting City since 1974 & there are a hardcore of supporters who season in season out believe that next year will be their teams year.That's what being a footy fan is all about so I take my hat off to you for your enthuasism.I've still got mine after all these years - still look forward to the fixtures coming out every year - just like a big kid!

keeponclucking, bradford says...
10:12am Thu 5 Jun 08

Gman - I hope you are right & that it's not a case of 'rose tinted spectacles'. I've been supporting City since 1974 & there are a hardcore of supporters who season in season out believe that next year will be their teams year.That's what being a footy fan is all about so I take my hat off to you for your enthuasism.I've still got mine after all these years - still look forward to the fixtures coming out every year - just like a big kid!

ward64, BD4 says...
10:16am Thu 5 Jun 08

Surely we will sign Beckett now?

ward64, BD4 says...
10:16am Thu 5 Jun 08

Surely we will sign Beckett now?

ward64, BD4 says...
10:16am Thu 5 Jun 08

Surely we will sign Beckett now?

boparob, Bradford says...
10:36am Thu 5 Jun 08

Rick wrote:
It is good publicity for Glenn Ackroyds' firm "A Quick Sale". Halifax Towns' Support is around 1500 approx.; so if 500 apply for Season Tickets @ 'City'. Then it will cost the Company-'Quick Sale' £25,500. 'City' would obtain £49,500. I am not familiar with Company Taxation Law, and the Creative Accountancy that could be applied to this 'Business Deal'. But could the cost of £25,500 be used to offset the pre-tax profits of 'Quick Sale'?. This may go some way to explaining this 'Deal'. If other Businesses think this could be a viable taxation move, then please make your offers now to the people of Bradford!!( Before The June 15 Deadline; and back date your offer, to all those who have already purchased their Season Tickets!). DEAL-or NO DEAL!!!!!!
City would get £75000 (500 tickets x £150 - Fans contributing £49,500, A Quick Sale contributing £25,500)

A Quick Sales contribution would come out of the P&L as Advertising / promotion expenses, and not therefore be subject to Taxation in the P&L

boparob, Bradford says...
10:36am Thu 5 Jun 08

Rick wrote:
It is good publicity for Glenn Ackroyds' firm "A Quick Sale". Halifax Towns' Support is around 1500 approx.; so if 500 apply for Season Tickets @ 'City'. Then it will cost the Company-'Quick Sale' £25,500. 'City' would obtain £49,500. I am not familiar with Company Taxation Law, and the Creative Accountancy that could be applied to this 'Business Deal'. But could the cost of £25,500 be used to offset the pre-tax profits of 'Quick Sale'?. This may go some way to explaining this 'Deal'. If other Businesses think this could be a viable taxation move, then please make your offers now to the people of Bradford!!( Before The June 15 Deadline; and back date your offer, to all those who have already purchased their Season Tickets!). DEAL-or NO DEAL!!!!!!
City would get £75000 (500 tickets x £150 - Fans contributing £49,500, A Quick Sale contributing £25,500)

A Quick Sales contribution would come out of the P&L as Advertising / promotion expenses, and not therefore be subject to Taxation in the P&L

boparob, Bradford says...
10:36am Thu 5 Jun 08

Rick wrote:
It is good publicity for Glenn Ackroyds' firm "A Quick Sale". Halifax Towns' Support is around 1500 approx.; so if 500 apply for Season Tickets @ 'City'. Then it will cost the Company-'Quick Sale' £25,500. 'City' would obtain £49,500. I am not familiar with Company Taxation Law, and the Creative Accountancy that could be applied to this 'Business Deal'. But could the cost of £25,500 be used to offset the pre-tax profits of 'Quick Sale'?. This may go some way to explaining this 'Deal'. If other Businesses think this could be a viable taxation move, then please make your offers now to the people of Bradford!!( Before The June 15 Deadline; and back date your offer, to all those who have already purchased their Season Tickets!). DEAL-or NO DEAL!!!!!!
City would get £75000 (500 tickets x £150 - Fans contributing £49,500, A Quick Sale contributing £25,500)

A Quick Sales contribution would come out of the P&L as Advertising / promotion expenses, and not therefore be subject to Taxation in the P&L

steve torpeys haircut, School says...
10:39am Thu 5 Jun 08

If they don't want to play for us then bin them off. You should have no doubts about playing for City.

steve torpeys haircut, School says...
10:39am Thu 5 Jun 08

If they don't want to play for us then bin them off. You should have no doubts about playing for City.

steve torpeys haircut, School says...
10:39am Thu 5 Jun 08

If they don't want to play for us then bin them off. You should have no doubts about playing for City.

gman, bradford says...
11:09am Thu 5 Jun 08

keeponclucking wrote:
Gman - I hope you are right & that it's not a case of 'rose tinted spectacles'. I've been supporting City since 1974 & there are a hardcore of supporters who season in season out believe that next year will be their teams year.That's what being a footy fan is all about so I take my hat off to you for your enthuasism.I've still got mine after all these years - still look forward to the fixtures coming out every year - just like a big kid!
all city fans have had a depressing few years so its time we turned the ship around and set off on a grand voyage once more just like we did 15 years ago or so.

i suppose people have a reason to be depressedabotu city at the moment after whats happened to us over the last 6 years or so but everybody has good and bad times so lets hope we are now ready for a good time again!!!

Lets all get behind the team and things will improve - the foundations seem to be solid again after years of turbulance and bad management all round.

BACK TO THE ODDS - BOOKIES ARE NOT OFTEN WRONG!!!!! surely we can all agree with that????

gman, bradford says...
11:09am Thu 5 Jun 08

keeponclucking wrote:
Gman - I hope you are right & that it's not a case of 'rose tinted spectacles'. I've been supporting City since 1974 & there are a hardcore of supporters who season in season out believe that next year will be their teams year.That's what being a footy fan is all about so I take my hat off to you for your enthuasism.I've still got mine after all these years - still look forward to the fixtures coming out every year - just like a big kid!
all city fans have had a depressing few years so its time we turned the ship around and set off on a grand voyage once more just like we did 15 years ago or so.

i suppose people have a reason to be depressedabotu city at the moment after whats happened to us over the last 6 years or so but everybody has good and bad times so lets hope we are now ready for a good time again!!!

Lets all get behind the team and things will improve - the foundations seem to be solid again after years of turbulance and bad management all round.

BACK TO THE ODDS - BOOKIES ARE NOT OFTEN WRONG!!!!! surely we can all agree with that????

gman, bradford says...
11:09am Thu 5 Jun 08

keeponclucking wrote:
Gman - I hope you are right & that it's not a case of 'rose tinted spectacles'. I've been supporting City since 1974 & there are a hardcore of supporters who season in season out believe that next year will be their teams year.That's what being a footy fan is all about so I take my hat off to you for your enthuasism.I've still got mine after all these years - still look forward to the fixtures coming out every year - just like a big kid!
all city fans have had a depressing few years so its time we turned the ship around and set off on a grand voyage once more just like we did 15 years ago or so.

i suppose people have a reason to be depressedabotu city at the moment after whats happened to us over the last 6 years or so but everybody has good and bad times so lets hope we are now ready for a good time again!!!

Lets all get behind the team and things will improve - the foundations seem to be solid again after years of turbulance and bad management all round.

BACK TO THE ODDS - BOOKIES ARE NOT OFTEN WRONG!!!!! surely we can all agree with that????

tyker, midland road says...
11:34am Thu 5 Jun 08

Lets all get behind the team and things will improve - the foundations seem to be solid again after years of turbulance and bad management all round.

great call. could not agree with you more. However the pennies still need to be watched very carefully at VP still.

I have already bought three season tickets and told the club that I was not interested in the BOGOF. Will I feel upset if people take advantage of the BOGOF-- NO as I have been a supporter for--------- let's put it this way if I had been married to the wife that long it would be Golden!!!

The offer was made by the club to generate more interest and should be taken up.

tyker, midland road says...
11:34am Thu 5 Jun 08

Lets all get behind the team and things will improve - the foundations seem to be solid again after years of turbulance and bad management all round.

great call. could not agree with you more. However the pennies still need to be watched very carefully at VP still.

I have already bought three season tickets and told the club that I was not interested in the BOGOF. Will I feel upset if people take advantage of the BOGOF-- NO as I have been a supporter for--------- let's put it this way if I had been married to the wife that long it would be Golden!!!

The offer was made by the club to generate more interest and should be taken up.

tyker, midland road says...
11:34am Thu 5 Jun 08

Lets all get behind the team and things will improve - the foundations seem to be solid again after years of turbulance and bad management all round.

great call. could not agree with you more. However the pennies still need to be watched very carefully at VP still.

I have already bought three season tickets and told the club that I was not interested in the BOGOF. Will I feel upset if people take advantage of the BOGOF-- NO as I have been a supporter for--------- let's put it this way if I had been married to the wife that long it would be Golden!!!

The offer was made by the club to generate more interest and should be taken up.

Big Mal, Bradford says...
11:56am Thu 5 Jun 08

JM wrote:
yes he was given a fiar crack of the whip. he had a few sub games (Wrexham, Grimsby away) but plenty of average ones. when we had other strikers who were clearly better what is the manager supposed to do, look after Bradford City and what's best for them or look after Luke Medley? in the final few games he got a chance and did ok at best, and was offered a deal. the move for Beckett/boulding. And already having Topp/Thorne/Conlon suggest Medley will only be a reserve player again next season, fair enough that he doesn't want to stick around and fight for his place. He was given his chance and fans always forget reserve games and training. Is he good enough to lead City to a promotion push next year, ahead of strikers like Thorne etc, the answer is no. good luck in the future but for gods sake lets not start a thoughtless moan thread that Medley never got a decent chance!
Tell me how many games Medley started. Then tell me how many games Daley started. Then tell me that Daley merited all his starts.

No argument. As for another post stating how unsociable he was and the inference of "good riddance", then why did McCall offer him terms to stay.

If I was in Medley's shoes, I'dalso have looked elsewhere. All managers have favourites, it's no big deal, but don't anyone say Medley was given his chance because, quite clearly, he wasn't.


Big Mal, Bradford says...
11:56am Thu 5 Jun 08

JM wrote:
yes he was given a fiar crack of the whip. he had a few sub games (Wrexham, Grimsby away) but plenty of average ones. when we had other strikers who were clearly better what is the manager supposed to do, look after Bradford City and what's best for them or look after Luke Medley? in the final few games he got a chance and did ok at best, and was offered a deal. the move for Beckett/boulding. And already having Topp/Thorne/Conlon suggest Medley will only be a reserve player again next season, fair enough that he doesn't want to stick around and fight for his place. He was given his chance and fans always forget reserve games and training. Is he good enough to lead City to a promotion push next year, ahead of strikers like Thorne etc, the answer is no. good luck in the future but for gods sake lets not start a thoughtless moan thread that Medley never got a decent chance!
Tell me how many games Medley started. Then tell me how many games Daley started. Then tell me that Daley merited all his starts.

No argument. As for another post stating how unsociable he was and the inference of "good riddance", then why did McCall offer him terms to stay.

If I was in Medley's shoes, I'dalso have looked elsewhere. All managers have favourites, it's no big deal, but don't anyone say Medley was given his chance because, quite clearly, he wasn't.


Big Mal, Bradford says...
11:56am Thu 5 Jun 08

JM wrote:
yes he was given a fiar crack of the whip. he had a few sub games (Wrexham, Grimsby away) but plenty of average ones. when we had other strikers who were clearly better what is the manager supposed to do, look after Bradford City and what's best for them or look after Luke Medley? in the final few games he got a chance and did ok at best, and was offered a deal. the move for Beckett/boulding. And already having Topp/Thorne/Conlon suggest Medley will only be a reserve player again next season, fair enough that he doesn't want to stick around and fight for his place. He was given his chance and fans always forget reserve games and training. Is he good enough to lead City to a promotion push next year, ahead of strikers like Thorne etc, the answer is no. good luck in the future but for gods sake lets not start a thoughtless moan thread that Medley never got a decent chance!
Tell me how many games Medley started. Then tell me how many games Daley started. Then tell me that Daley merited all his starts.

No argument. As for another post stating how unsociable he was and the inference of "good riddance", then why did McCall offer him terms to stay.

If I was in Medley's shoes, I'dalso have looked elsewhere. All managers have favourites, it's no big deal, but don't anyone say Medley was given his chance because, quite clearly, he wasn't.


gman, bradford says...
12:27pm Thu 5 Jun 08

i think medley got a fair shot...apart that moment of magic didn't really impress at all.
he went on loan to non-league and didn't do much there either so i dont think he will be missed at all.

gman, bradford says...
12:27pm Thu 5 Jun 08

i think medley got a fair shot...apart that moment of magic didn't really impress at all.
he went on loan to non-league and didn't do much there either so i dont think he will be missed at all.

gman, bradford says...
12:27pm Thu 5 Jun 08

i think medley got a fair shot...apart that moment of magic didn't really impress at all.
he went on loan to non-league and didn't do much there either so i dont think he will be missed at all.

keeponclucking, bradford says...
12:50pm Thu 5 Jun 08

Think folk are being a bit harsh on Medley. He's only 19 & he may have been one of those players that City could have gradually brought through the ranks. I've seen worse players in a City shirt.From his point of view I think he's made the wrong decision.For the sake of an extra year he should have sat tight at City.He may have got his chance through injuries & if not he would still have had an extra year of soccer coaching under his belt.I suspect he will be consigned to footy wilderness from here...on a different tack - just seen the news that Jacko has been given the all clear in his fight against Cancer. That puts football in context.I'm sure he'll get a good reception when he brings Lincoln to VP next season.

keeponclucking, bradford says...
12:50pm Thu 5 Jun 08

Think folk are being a bit harsh on Medley. He's only 19 & he may have been one of those players that City could have gradually brought through the ranks. I've seen worse players in a City shirt.From his point of view I think he's made the wrong decision.For the sake of an extra year he should have sat tight at City.He may have got his chance through injuries & if not he would still have had an extra year of soccer coaching under his belt.I suspect he will be consigned to footy wilderness from here...on a different tack - just seen the news that Jacko has been given the all clear in his fight against Cancer. That puts football in context.I'm sure he'll get a good reception when he brings Lincoln to VP next season.

keeponclucking, bradford says...
12:50pm Thu 5 Jun 08

Think folk are being a bit harsh on Medley. He's only 19 & he may have been one of those players that City could have gradually brought through the ranks. I've seen worse players in a City shirt.From his point of view I think he's made the wrong decision.For the sake of an extra year he should have sat tight at City.He may have got his chance through injuries & if not he would still have had an extra year of soccer coaching under his belt.I suspect he will be consigned to footy wilderness from here...on a different tack - just seen the news that Jacko has been given the all clear in his fight against Cancer. That puts football in context.I'm sure he'll get a good reception when he brings Lincoln to VP next season.

JM, Skipton says...
1:04pm Thu 5 Jun 08

Big Mal wrote:
JM wrote: yes he was given a fiar crack of the whip. he had a few sub games (Wrexham, Grimsby away) but plenty of average ones. when we had other strikers who were clearly better what is the manager supposed to do, look after Bradford City and what's best for them or look after Luke Medley? in the final few games he got a chance and did ok at best, and was offered a deal. the move for Beckett/boulding. And already having Topp/Thorne/Conlon suggest Medley will only be a reserve player again next season, fair enough that he doesn't want to stick around and fight for his place. He was given his chance and fans always forget reserve games and training. Is he good enough to lead City to a promotion push next year, ahead of strikers like Thorne etc, the answer is no. good luck in the future but for gods sake lets not start a thoughtless moan thread that Medley never got a decent chance!
Tell me how many games Medley started. Then tell me how many games Daley started. Then tell me that Daley merited all his starts. No argument. As for another post stating how unsociable he was and the inference of "good riddance", then why did McCall offer him terms to stay. If I was in Medley's shoes, I'dalso have looked elsewhere. All managers have favourites, it's no big deal, but don't anyone say Medley was given his chance because, quite clearly, he wasn't.
What has Daley got to do with it? He's a winger and occasionally a striker, is your beef that Daley was included on the wing ahead of Medley? Why not go the whole hog and complain that Ricketts was given more chances!

At the end of the day Medley was given opportunities and on some occasions looked good but in others no where near good enough. When you come in to matches you have to show a certain standard consistently and Medley clearly didn't do that. It was there for us all to see (Barney and Brentford home games). Having said that Stuart offered him a new deal because he could get better next season.

How you can honestly say he didn't get a chance is beyond me. Lets remember it's his decision to leave, not Stuart's. We'll see where he ends up playing next season, but I doubt we'll be looking back with regret at losing him somehow.

JM, Skipton says...
1:04pm Thu 5 Jun 08

Big Mal wrote:
JM wrote: yes he was given a fiar crack of the whip. he had a few sub games (Wrexham, Grimsby away) but plenty of average ones. when we had other strikers who were clearly better what is the manager supposed to do, look after Bradford City and what's best for them or look after Luke Medley? in the final few games he got a chance and did ok at best, and was offered a deal. the move for Beckett/boulding. And already having Topp/Thorne/Conlon suggest Medley will only be a reserve player again next season, fair enough that he doesn't want to stick around and fight for his place. He was given his chance and fans always forget reserve games and training. Is he good enough to lead City to a promotion push next year, ahead of strikers like Thorne etc, the answer is no. good luck in the future but for gods sake lets not start a thoughtless moan thread that Medley never got a decent chance!
Tell me how many games Medley started. Then tell me how many games Daley started. Then tell me that Daley merited all his starts. No argument. As for another post stating how unsociable he was and the inference of "good riddance", then why did McCall offer him terms to stay. If I was in Medley's shoes, I'dalso have looked elsewhere. All managers have favourites, it's no big deal, but don't anyone say Medley was given his chance because, quite clearly, he wasn't.
What has Daley got to do with it? He's a winger and occasionally a striker, is your beef that Daley was included on the wing ahead of Medley? Why not go the whole hog and complain that Ricketts was given more chances!

At the end of the day Medley was given opportunities and on some occasions looked good but in others no where near good enough. When you come in to matches you have to show a certain standard consistently and Medley clearly didn't do that. It was there for us all to see (Barney and Brentford home games). Having said that Stuart offered him a new deal because he could get better next season.

How you can honestly say he didn't get a chance is beyond me. Lets remember it's his decision to leave, not Stuart's. We'll see where he ends up playing next season, but I doubt we'll be looking back with regret at losing him somehow.

JM, Skipton says...
1:04pm Thu 5 Jun 08

Big Mal wrote:
JM wrote: yes he was given a fiar crack of the whip. he had a few sub games (Wrexham, Grimsby away) but plenty of average ones. when we had other strikers who were clearly better what is the manager supposed to do, look after Bradford City and what's best for them or look after Luke Medley? in the final few games he got a chance and did ok at best, and was offered a deal. the move for Beckett/boulding. And already having Topp/Thorne/Conlon suggest Medley will only be a reserve player again next season, fair enough that he doesn't want to stick around and fight for his place. He was given his chance and fans always forget reserve games and training. Is he good enough to lead City to a promotion push next year, ahead of strikers like Thorne etc, the answer is no. good luck in the future but for gods sake lets not start a thoughtless moan thread that Medley never got a decent chance!
Tell me how many games Medley started. Then tell me how many games Daley started. Then tell me that Daley merited all his starts. No argument. As for another post stating how unsociable he was and the inference of "good riddance", then why did McCall offer him terms to stay. If I was in Medley's shoes, I'dalso have looked elsewhere. All managers have favourites, it's no big deal, but don't anyone say Medley was given his chance because, quite clearly, he wasn't.
What has Daley got to do with it? He's a winger and occasionally a striker, is your beef that Daley was included on the wing ahead of Medley? Why not go the whole hog and complain that Ricketts was given more chances!

At the end of the day Medley was given opportunities and on some occasions looked good but in others no where near good enough. When you come in to matches you have to show a certain standard consistently and Medley clearly didn't do that. It was there for us all to see (Barney and Brentford home games). Having said that Stuart offered him a new deal because he could get better next season.

How you can honestly say he didn't get a chance is beyond me. Lets remember it's his decision to leave, not Stuart's. We'll see where he ends up playing next season, but I doubt we'll be looking back with regret at losing him somehow.

keeponclucking, bradford says...
1:22pm Thu 5 Jun 08

Think folk have been a bit harsh on Medley. He's only 19 & still learning his trade.I've seen far worse players in a City shirt (& he takes a better penalty than Barry Conlon!).From his point of view I think he's made a bad decision. For the sake of any extra year he may have got his chance through injuries,but if not at least he would have had another year's football schooling under his belt.I suspect he may now disappear into soccer wilderness whereas he could have been a player who could have been gradually nurtured through the ranks. On a positive note I've just heard that Jacko has had the all clear in his fight with cancer. I'm sure City fans will give him a good reception when he brings Lincoln to VP next season.

keeponclucking, bradford says...
1:22pm Thu 5 Jun 08

Think folk have been a bit harsh on Medley. He's only 19 & still learning his trade.I've seen far worse players in a City shirt (& he takes a better penalty than Barry Conlon!).From his point of view I think he's made a bad decision. For the sake of any extra year he may have got his chance through injuries,but if not at least he would have had another year's football schooling under his belt.I suspect he may now disappear into soccer wilderness whereas he could have been a player who could have been gradually nurtured through the ranks. On a positive note I've just heard that Jacko has had the all clear in his fight with cancer. I'm sure City fans will give him a good reception when he brings Lincoln to VP next season.

keeponclucking, bradford says...
1:22pm Thu 5 Jun 08

Think folk have been a bit harsh on Medley. He's only 19 & still learning his trade.I've seen far worse players in a City shirt (& he takes a better penalty than Barry Conlon!).From his point of view I think he's made a bad decision. For the sake of any extra year he may have got his chance through injuries,but if not at least he would have had another year's football schooling under his belt.I suspect he may now disappear into soccer wilderness whereas he could have been a player who could have been gradually nurtured through the ranks. On a positive note I've just heard that Jacko has had the all clear in his fight with cancer. I'm sure City fans will give him a good reception when he brings Lincoln to VP next season.

tyker, midland road says...
1:32pm Thu 5 Jun 08

A Quick Sales contribution would come out of the P&L as Advertising / promotion expenses, and not therefore be subject to Taxation in the P&L

Agreed but the Revenue would have the right to challenge the deduction and seek to have it added back to taxable profits if it considered that the expenditure was not wholly, necessarily and exclusively incurred for the purposes of the business. The fact that the person involved is well reported as a City fan may have some bearing on this.

They could argue that the expenditure arose for personal reasons unconnected with the business. The efficacy of the promotional expenditure may be challenged also.

The expenses could be picked up for detailed analysis if for example trading income decreased whilst advertising and promotional costs increased at a disproportionate rate. I do not precisely know the business activities of A Quick Sale but it appears to be property related. If so then trading income may be in the downard swing.

All matters technical and certainly arguable but, nevertheless, a great gesture to soccer fans.

tyker, midland road says...
1:32pm Thu 5 Jun 08

A Quick Sales contribution would come out of the P&L as Advertising / promotion expenses, and not therefore be subject to Taxation in the P&L

Agreed but the Revenue would have the right to challenge the deduction and seek to have it added back to taxable profits if it considered that the expenditure was not wholly, necessarily and exclusively incurred for the purposes of the business. The fact that the person involved is well reported as a City fan may have some bearing on this.

They could argue that the expenditure arose for personal reasons unconnected with the business. The efficacy of the promotional expenditure may be challenged also.

The expenses could be picked up for detailed analysis if for example trading income decreased whilst advertising and promotional costs increased at a disproportionate rate. I do not precisely know the business activities of A Quick Sale but it appears to be property related. If so then trading income may be in the downard swing.

All matters technical and certainly arguable but, nevertheless, a great gesture to soccer fans.

tyker, midland road says...
1:32pm Thu 5 Jun 08

A Quick Sales contribution would come out of the P&L as Advertising / promotion expenses, and not therefore be subject to Taxation in the P&L

Agreed but the Revenue would have the right to challenge the deduction and seek to have it added back to taxable profits if it considered that the expenditure was not wholly, necessarily and exclusively incurred for the purposes of the business. The fact that the person involved is well reported as a City fan may have some bearing on this.

They could argue that the expenditure arose for personal reasons unconnected with the business. The efficacy of the promotional expenditure may be challenged also.

The expenses could be picked up for detailed analysis if for example trading income decreased whilst advertising and promotional costs increased at a disproportionate rate. I do not precisely know the business activities of A Quick Sale but it appears to be property related. If so then trading income may be in the downard swing.

All matters technical and certainly arguable but, nevertheless, a great gesture to soccer fans.

DickieBCFC, Oxenhope says...
1:43pm Thu 5 Jun 08

"No argument. As for another post stating how unsociable he was and the inference of "good riddance", then why did McCall offer him terms to stay."

He offered him terms in order to get a fee when he signs somewhere else.

DickieBCFC, Oxenhope says...
1:43pm Thu 5 Jun 08

"No argument. As for another post stating how unsociable he was and the inference of "good riddance", then why did McCall offer him terms to stay."

He offered him terms in order to get a fee when he signs somewhere else.

DickieBCFC, Oxenhope says...
1:43pm Thu 5 Jun 08

"No argument. As for another post stating how unsociable he was and the inference of "good riddance", then why did McCall offer him terms to stay."

He offered him terms in order to get a fee when he signs somewhere else.

GWH, says...
1:44pm Thu 5 Jun 08

Big Mal

He got a contract offer because he is 19 and therefore Bradford earn some compensation from the next club that signs him - if they sign him!!

GWH, says...
1:44pm Thu 5 Jun 08

Big Mal

He got a contract offer because he is 19 and therefore Bradford earn some compensation from the next club that signs him - if they sign him!!

GWH, says...
1:44pm Thu 5 Jun 08

Big Mal

He got a contract offer because he is 19 and therefore Bradford earn some compensation from the next club that signs him - if they sign him!!

broccoli09, Denholme says...
1:47pm Thu 5 Jun 08

I love the ideaology behind our clubs season ticket offer - It has set the standard for all other clubs who care about their fans to follow suit. I have bought 2 season tickets already and i try always to be optimistic. However, as of 4/6 we were 3152 adult season tickets short of the magic 9000 with only 11 days left, that equates to 286.5 adults buying a season ticket every day until the offer ends. I don't need to tell everyone 'it ain't going to happen' as much as i would like it to, the numbers are just to vast. I do foresee some sort of extention to the offer, or a statement from the club sooner rather than later on just what will happen next. I personally think that the club will honour the 2 for 1 tickets to those who have purchased already, but with some sort of terms and conditions etc. I am really disappointed that not enough tickets have been sold and hope that by some miracle it will happen, but i won't hold my breath. Nevertheless, i will be there in August shouting the boys on, whether 15,000 in the crowd or 8,000 in the crowd because it's our club and we must support it through thick and thin. CTID

broccoli09, Denholme says...
1:47pm Thu 5 Jun 08

I love the ideaology behind our clubs season ticket offer - It has set the standard for all other clubs who care about their fans to follow suit. I have bought 2 season tickets already and i try always to be optimistic. However, as of 4/6 we were 3152 adult season tickets short of the magic 9000 with only 11 days left, that equates to 286.5 adults buying a season ticket every day until the offer ends. I don't need to tell everyone 'it ain't going to happen' as much as i would like it to, the numbers are just to vast. I do foresee some sort of extention to the offer, or a statement from the club sooner rather than later on just what will happen next. I personally think that the club will honour the 2 for 1 tickets to those who have purchased already, but with some sort of terms and conditions etc. I am really disappointed that not enough tickets have been sold and hope that by some miracle it will happen, but i won't hold my breath. Nevertheless, i will be there in August shouting the boys on, whether 15,000 in the crowd or 8,000 in the crowd because it's our club and we must support it through thick and thin. CTID

broccoli09, Denholme says...
1:47pm Thu 5 Jun 08

I love the ideaology behind our clubs season ticket offer - It has set the standard for all other clubs who care about their fans to follow suit. I have bought 2 season tickets already and i try always to be optimistic. However, as of 4/6 we were 3152 adult season tickets short of the magic 9000 with only 11 days left, that equates to 286.5 adults buying a season ticket every day until the offer ends. I don't need to tell everyone 'it ain't going to happen' as much as i would like it to, the numbers are just to vast. I do foresee some sort of extention to the offer, or a statement from the club sooner rather than later on just what will happen next. I personally think that the club will honour the 2 for 1 tickets to those who have purchased already, but with some sort of terms and conditions etc. I am really disappointed that not enough tickets have been sold and hope that by some miracle it will happen, but i won't hold my breath. Nevertheless, i will be there in August shouting the boys on, whether 15,000 in the crowd or 8,000 in the crowd because it's our club and we must support it through thick and thin. CTID

Luke, Leeds says...
1:49pm Thu 5 Jun 08

Well it seems a strange decision to me. Surely his agent would of been looking for a different club for him and surely by now found someone interested and willing to gamble on someone they can't know too much about and wil have to pay compensation for. I think at 19 he showed a bit of promise and can't of been on a high wage so would of been worth us keeping on for another couple of years to see any improvement. I wouldn't be that surprised if he did a U-turn after realising he wouldn't be able to get another league contract elsewhere but would Mccall want him now?

In terms of our odds I don't think it's a surprise. The bookies will of looked at our back end season form and seen how well we did. After strengthening they'll expect us to push on. I think we would do very well to sign Marriot this guy has a fantastic record and was number 1 for Lincolns 5 successive play off campaigns. Only worry if we end up in play offs he's not had much success!

Luke, Leeds says...
1:49pm Thu 5 Jun 08

Well it seems a strange decision to me. Surely his agent would of been looking for a different club for him and surely by now found someone interested and willing to gamble on someone they can't know too much about and wil have to pay compensation for. I think at 19 he showed a bit of promise and can't of been on a high wage so would of been worth us keeping on for another couple of years to see any improvement. I wouldn't be that surprised if he did a U-turn after realising he wouldn't be able to get another league contract elsewhere but would Mccall want him now?

In terms of our odds I don't think it's a surprise. The bookies will of looked at our back end season form and seen how well we did. After strengthening they'll expect us to push on. I think we would do very well to sign Marriot this guy has a fantastic record and was number 1 for Lincolns 5 successive play off campaigns. Only worry if we end up in play offs he's not had much success!

Luke, Leeds says...
1:49pm Thu 5 Jun 08

Well it seems a strange decision to me. Surely his agent would of been looking for a different club for him and surely by now found someone interested and willing to gamble on someone they can't know too much about and wil have to pay compensation for. I think at 19 he showed a bit of promise and can't of been on a high wage so would of been worth us keeping on for another couple of years to see any improvement. I wouldn't be that surprised if he did a U-turn after realising he wouldn't be able to get another league contract elsewhere but would Mccall want him now?

In terms of our odds I don't think it's a surprise. The bookies will of looked at our back end season form and seen how well we did. After strengthening they'll expect us to push on. I think we would do very well to sign Marriot this guy has a fantastic record and was number 1 for Lincolns 5 successive play off campaigns. Only worry if we end up in play offs he's not had much success!

EMB Bantam, Guiseley says...
1:58pm Thu 5 Jun 08

If sources close to the club are to be believed, Medley's attitude was cr4p. Allegedly his southern footy chums include the likes of Rio Ferdinand - maybe that gives him the impression that he's better then the rest. City farmed him out to Cambridge to try and bring his head down a size or 2, but it doesn't look like it worked. Can't say they'll lose much sleep over him as he didn't exactly set the Blue Square Premier alight with his supposed ability.

If we're going to have 'raw' talent on our books let it be home grown or players who want to fight for their place. Although far from the finished article, Colbeck is a decent example of this.

Re. the season tickets... I work with an avid 'Fax fan who had just started to take his 4 year old lad to the Shay last season. I told him that if they don't have a club to support, and IF we hit the 9000, he can have mine & the wife's freebies. At least that way him and his son can carry on watching some football next season.

EMB Bantam, Guiseley says...
1:58pm Thu 5 Jun 08

If sources close to the club are to be believed, Medley's attitude was cr4p. Allegedly his southern footy chums include the likes of Rio Ferdinand - maybe that gives him the impression that he's better then the rest. City farmed him out to Cambridge to try and bring his head down a size or 2, but it doesn't look like it worked. Can't say they'll lose much sleep over him as he didn't exactly set the Blue Square Premier alight with his supposed ability.

If we're going to have 'raw' talent on our books let it be home grown or players who want to fight for their place. Although far from the finished article, Colbeck is a decent example of this.

Re. the season tickets... I work with an avid 'Fax fan who had just started to take his 4 year old lad to the Shay last season. I told him that if they don't have a club to support, and IF we hit the 9000, he can have mine & the wife's freebies. At least that way him and his son can carry on watching some football next season.

EMB Bantam, Guiseley says...
1:58pm Thu 5 Jun 08

If sources close to the club are to be believed, Medley's attitude was cr4p. Allegedly his southern footy chums include the likes of Rio Ferdinand - maybe that gives him the impression that he's better then the rest. City farmed him out to Cambridge to try and bring his head down a size or 2, but it doesn't look like it worked. Can't say they'll lose much sleep over him as he didn't exactly set the Blue Square Premier alight with his supposed ability.

If we're going to have 'raw' talent on our books let it be home grown or players who want to fight for their place. Although far from the finished article, Colbeck is a decent example of this.

Re. the season tickets... I work with an avid 'Fax fan who had just started to take his 4 year old lad to the Shay last season. I told him that if they don't have a club to support, and IF we hit the 9000, he can have mine & the wife's freebies. At least that way him and his son can carry on watching some football next season.

gman, bradford says...
2:10pm Thu 5 Jun 08

broccoli09 wrote:
I love the ideaology behind our clubs season ticket offer - It has set the standard for all other clubs who care about their fans to follow suit. I have bought 2 season tickets already and i try always to be optimistic. However, as of 4/6 we were 3152 adult season tickets short of the magic 9000 with only 11 days left, that equates to 286.5 adults buying a season ticket every day until the offer ends. I don't need to tell everyone 'it ain't going to happen' as much as i would like it to, the numbers are just to vast. I do foresee some sort of extention to the offer, or a statement from the club sooner rather than later on just what will happen next. I personally think that the club will honour the 2 for 1 tickets to those who have purchased already, but with some sort of terms and conditions etc. I am really disappointed that not enough tickets have been sold and hope that by some miracle it will happen, but i won't hold my breath. Nevertheless, i will be there in August shouting the boys on, whether 15,000 in the crowd or 8,000 in the crowd because it's our club and we must support it through thick and thin. CTID
couldn't agree more mate - if all the fans who were there last season had the same attitude then we'd be sorted........it might pay dividends for the club not to get the 9000 cos then when we are flying high next season all them people complaining about stuff now will then have to pay £20 entrance which will only benefit the club!!
Personally i'd be there if we were in the unibond league so i dont care if we have 8000 or 18000 thousand - i thing i would prefer 8000 dedicated to the cause rather then then an extra 10000 moaners!!

gman, bradford says...
2:10pm Thu 5 Jun 08

broccoli09 wrote:
I love the ideaology behind our clubs season ticket offer - It has set the standard for all other clubs who care about their fans to follow suit. I have bought 2 season tickets already and i try always to be optimistic. However, as of 4/6 we were 3152 adult season tickets short of the magic 9000 with only 11 days left, that equates to 286.5 adults buying a season ticket every day until the offer ends. I don't need to tell everyone 'it ain't going to happen' as much as i would like it to, the numbers are just to vast. I do foresee some sort of extention to the offer, or a statement from the club sooner rather than later on just what will happen next. I personally think that the club will honour the 2 for 1 tickets to those who have purchased already, but with some sort of terms and conditions etc. I am really disappointed that not enough tickets have been sold and hope that by some miracle it will happen, but i won't hold my breath. Nevertheless, i will be there in August shouting the boys on, whether 15,000 in the crowd or 8,000 in the crowd because it's our club and we must support it through thick and thin. CTID
couldn't agree more mate - if all the fans who were there last season had the same attitude then we'd be sorted........it might pay dividends for the club not to get the 9000 cos then when we are flying high next season all them people complaining about stuff now will then have to pay £20 entrance which will only benefit the club!!
Personally i'd be there if we were in the unibond league so i dont care if we have 8000 or 18000 thousand - i thing i would prefer 8000 dedicated to the cause rather then then an extra 10000 moaners!!

gman, bradford says...
2:10pm Thu 5 Jun 08

broccoli09 wrote:
I love the ideaology behind our clubs season ticket offer - It has set the standard for all other clubs who care about their fans to follow suit. I have bought 2 season tickets already and i try always to be optimistic. However, as of 4/6 we were 3152 adult season tickets short of the magic 9000 with only 11 days left, that equates to 286.5 adults buying a season ticket every day until the offer ends. I don't need to tell everyone 'it ain't going to happen' as much as i would like it to, the numbers are just to vast. I do foresee some sort of extention to the offer, or a statement from the club sooner rather than later on just what will happen next. I personally think that the club will honour the 2 for 1 tickets to those who have purchased already, but with some sort of terms and conditions etc. I am really disappointed that not enough tickets have been sold and hope that by some miracle it will happen, but i won't hold my breath. Nevertheless, i will be there in August shouting the boys on, whether 15,000 in the crowd or 8,000 in the crowd because it's our club and we must support it through thick and thin. CTID
couldn't agree more mate - if all the fans who were there last season had the same attitude then we'd be sorted........it might pay dividends for the club not to get the 9000 cos then when we are flying high next season all them people complaining about stuff now will then have to pay £20 entrance which will only benefit the club!!
Personally i'd be there if we were in the unibond league so i dont care if we have 8000 or 18000 thousand - i thing i would prefer 8000 dedicated to the cause rather then then an extra 10000 moaners!!

Waynus, Bradford 6 says...
2:43pm Thu 5 Jun 08

gman wrote:
keeponclucking wrote: Gman - I hope you are right & that it's not a case of 'rose tinted spectacles'. I've been supporting City since 1974 & there are a hardcore of supporters who season in season out believe that next year will be their teams year.That's what being a footy fan is all about so I take my hat off to you for your enthuasism.I've still got mine after all these years - still look forward to the fixtures coming out every year - just like a big kid!
all city fans have had a depressing few years so its time we turned the ship around and set off on a grand voyage once more just like we did 15 years ago or so. i suppose people have a reason to be depressedabotu city at the moment after whats happened to us over the last 6 years or so but everybody has good and bad times so lets hope we are now ready for a good time again!!! Lets all get behind the team and things will improve - the foundations seem to be solid again after years of turbulance and bad management all round. BACK TO THE ODDS - BOOKIES ARE NOT OFTEN WRONG!!!!! surely we can all agree with that????
I placed my bet with the Bradford Bookies (has a stand at the back of the Kop) a few weeks back and took 16/1 for Promotion. I fixed the offs too expecting decent signings to arrive. I asked for back to back promotion odds but they wouldn't give me a price. I put a £10 on the nose, so I am hoping it will pay for next season's ticket in League 1!

Waynus, Bradford 6 says...
2:43pm Thu 5 Jun 08

gman wrote:
keeponclucking wrote: Gman - I hope you are right & that it's not a case of 'rose tinted spectacles'. I've been supporting City since 1974 & there are a hardcore of supporters who season in season out believe that next year will be their teams year.That's what being a footy fan is all about so I take my hat off to you for your enthuasism.I've still got mine after all these years - still look forward to the fixtures coming out every year - just like a big kid!
all city fans have had a depressing few years so its time we turned the ship around and set off on a grand voyage once more just like we did 15 years ago or so. i suppose people have a reason to be depressedabotu city at the moment after whats happened to us over the last 6 years or so but everybody has good and bad times so lets hope we are now ready for a good time again!!! Lets all get behind the team and things will improve - the foundations seem to be solid again after years of turbulance and bad management all round. BACK TO THE ODDS - BOOKIES ARE NOT OFTEN WRONG!!!!! surely we can all agree with that????
I placed my bet with the Bradford Bookies (has a stand at the back of the Kop) a few weeks back and took 16/1 for Promotion. I fixed the offs too expecting decent signings to arrive. I asked for back to back promotion odds but they wouldn't give me a price. I put a £10 on the nose, so I am hoping it will pay for next season's ticket in League 1!

Waynus, Bradford 6 says...
2:43pm Thu 5 Jun 08

gman wrote:
keeponclucking wrote: Gman - I hope you are right & that it's not a case of 'rose tinted spectacles'. I've been supporting City since 1974 & there are a hardcore of supporters who season in season out believe that next year will be their teams year.That's what being a footy fan is all about so I take my hat off to you for your enthuasism.I've still got mine after all these years - still look forward to the fixtures coming out every year - just like a big kid!
all city fans have had a depressing few years so its time we turned the ship around and set off on a grand voyage once more just like we did 15 years ago or so. i suppose people have a reason to be depressedabotu city at the moment after whats happened to us over the last 6 years or so but everybody has good and bad times so lets hope we are now ready for a good time again!!! Lets all get behind the team and things will improve - the foundations seem to be solid again after years of turbulance and bad management all round. BACK TO THE ODDS - BOOKIES ARE NOT OFTEN WRONG!!!!! surely we can all agree with that????
I placed my bet with the Bradford Bookies (has a stand at the back of the Kop) a few weeks back and took 16/1 for Promotion. I fixed the offs too expecting decent signings to arrive. I asked for back to back promotion odds but they wouldn't give me a price. I put a £10 on the nose, so I am hoping it will pay for next season's ticket in League 1!

Waynus, Bradford 6 says...
2:56pm Thu 5 Jun 08

JM wrote:
Big Mal wrote:
JM wrote: yes he was given a fiar crack of the whip. he had a few sub games (Wrexham, Grimsby away) but plenty of average ones. when we had other strikers who were clearly better what is the manager supposed to do, look after Bradford City and what's best for them or look after Luke Medley? in the final few games he got a chance and did ok at best, and was offered a deal. the move for Beckett/boulding. And already having Topp/Thorne/Conlon suggest Medley will only be a reserve player again next season, fair enough that he doesn't want to stick around and fight for his place. He was given his chance and fans always forget reserve games and training. Is he good enough to lead City to a promotion push next year, ahead of strikers like Thorne etc, the answer is no. good luck in the future but for gods sake lets not start a thoughtless moan thread that Medley never got a decent chance!
Tell me how many games Medley started. Then tell me how many games Daley started. Then tell me that Daley merited all his starts. No argument. As for another post stating how unsociable he was and the inference of "good riddance", then why did McCall offer him terms to stay. If I was in Medley's shoes, I'dalso have looked elsewhere. All managers have favourites, it's no big deal, but don't anyone say Medley was given his chance because, quite clearly, he wasn't.
What has Daley got to do with it? He's a winger and occasionally a striker, is your beef that Daley was included on the wing ahead of Medley? Why not go the whole hog and complain that Ricketts was given more chances! At the end of the day Medley was given opportunities and on some occasions looked good but in others no where near good enough. When you come in to matches you have to show a certain standard consistently and Medley clearly didn't do that. It was there for us all to see (Barney and Brentford home games). Having said that Stuart offered him a new deal because he could get better next season. How you can honestly say he didn't get a chance is beyond me. Lets remember it's his decision to leave, not Stuart's. We'll see where he ends up playing next season, but I doubt we'll be looking back with regret at losing him somehow.
Can't agree with you JM on this one. Medley only played an handful of games last season for City and most of them were late subs (15mins here and 20 mins there). Not many players can adjust to a game in that amount of time and I am including real quality players in that. Even after his superb display on debut, he was dropped the week after and didn't really come back from that. Even when he did play, he tended to play out wide rather than through the middle.

I think you are being very hard on the BOY. Yes, let's not forget he is only a young lad.

I have a friend living in Cambridge who watched Medley a couple of times. From what he told me, Medley didn't get that many games and when he did, he didn't get the service because Cambridge were very poor. How can you say Medley was cr4p at Cambridge without knowing the facts? From what my mate said, he looked quality, but because he didn't pull them out of the sh!t on his own, he was made the scapegoat. If the service aint there, you aint going to get goals from him.

It will be a loss to this football club and I for one wish him well.

Waynus, Bradford 6 says...
2:56pm Thu 5 Jun 08

JM wrote:
Big Mal wrote:
JM wrote: yes he was given a fiar crack of the whip. he had a few sub games (Wrexham, Grimsby away) but plenty of average ones. when we had other strikers who were clearly better what is the manager supposed to do, look after Bradford City and what's best for them or look after Luke Medley? in the final few games he got a chance and did ok at best, and was offered a deal. the move for Beckett/boulding. And already having Topp/Thorne/Conlon suggest Medley will only be a reserve player again next season, fair enough that he doesn't want to stick around and fight for his place. He was given his chance and fans always forget reserve games and training. Is he good enough to lead City to a promotion push next year, ahead of strikers like Thorne etc, the answer is no. good luck in the future but for gods sake lets not start a thoughtless moan thread that Medley never got a decent chance!
Tell me how many games Medley started. Then tell me how many games Daley started. Then tell me that Daley merited all his starts. No argument. As for another post stating how unsociable he was and the inference of "good riddance", then why did McCall offer him terms to stay. If I was in Medley's shoes, I'dalso have looked elsewhere. All managers have favourites, it's no big deal, but don't anyone say Medley was given his chance because, quite clearly, he wasn't.
What has Daley got to do with it? He's a winger and occasionally a striker, is your beef that Daley was included on the wing ahead of Medley? Why not go the whole hog and complain that Ricketts was given more chances! At the end of the day Medley was given opportunities and on some occasions looked good but in others no where near good enough. When you come in to matches you have to show a certain standard consistently and Medley clearly didn't do that. It was there for us all to see (Barney and Brentford home games). Having said that Stuart offered him a new deal because he could get better next season. How you can honestly say he didn't get a chance is beyond me. Lets remember it's his decision to leave, not Stuart's. We'll see where he ends up playing next season, but I doubt we'll be looking back with regret at losing him somehow.
Can't agree with you JM on this one. Medley only played an handful of games last season for City and most of them were late subs (15mins here and 20 mins there). Not many players can adjust to a game in that amount of time and I am including real quality players in that. Even after his superb display on debut, he was dropped the week after and didn't really come back from that. Even when he did play, he tended to play out wide rather than through the middle.

I think you are being very hard on the BOY. Yes, let's not forget he is only a young lad.

I have a friend living in Cambridge who watched Medley a couple of times. From what he told me, Medley didn't get that many games and when he did, he didn't get the service because Cambridge were very poor. How can you say Medley was cr4p at Cambridge without knowing the facts? From what my mate said, he looked quality, but because he didn't pull them out of the sh!t on his own, he was made the scapegoat. If the service aint there, you aint going to get goals from him.

It will be a loss to this football club and I for one wish him well.

Waynus, Bradford 6 says...
2:56pm Thu 5 Jun 08

JM wrote:
Big Mal wrote:
JM wrote: yes he was given a fiar crack of the whip. he had a few sub games (Wrexham, Grimsby away) but plenty of average ones. when we had other strikers who were clearly better what is the manager supposed to do, look after Bradford City and what's best for them or look after Luke Medley? in the final few games he got a chance and did ok at best, and was offered a deal. the move for Beckett/boulding. And already having Topp/Thorne/Conlon suggest Medley will only be a reserve player again next season, fair enough that he doesn't want to stick around and fight for his place. He was given his chance and fans always forget reserve games and training. Is he good enough to lead City to a promotion push next year, ahead of strikers like Thorne etc, the answer is no. good luck in the future but for gods sake lets not start a thoughtless moan thread that Medley never got a decent chance!
Tell me how many games Medley started. Then tell me how many games Daley started. Then tell me that Daley merited all his starts. No argument. As for another post stating how unsociable he was and the inference of "good riddance", then why did McCall offer him terms to stay. If I was in Medley's shoes, I'dalso have looked elsewhere. All managers have favourites, it's no big deal, but don't anyone say Medley was given his chance because, quite clearly, he wasn't.
What has Daley got to do with it? He's a winger and occasionally a striker, is your beef that Daley was included on the wing ahead of Medley? Why not go the whole hog and complain that Ricketts was given more chances! At the end of the day Medley was given opportunities and on some occasions looked good but in others no where near good enough. When you come in to matches you have to show a certain standard consistently and Medley clearly didn't do that. It was there for us all to see (Barney and Brentford home games). Having said that Stuart offered him a new deal because he could get better next season. How you can honestly say he didn't get a chance is beyond me. Lets remember it's his decision to leave, not Stuart's. We'll see where he ends up playing next season, but I doubt we'll be looking back with regret at losing him somehow.
Can't agree with you JM on this one. Medley only played an handful of games last season for City and most of them were late subs (15mins here and 20 mins there). Not many players can adjust to a game in that amount of time and I am including real quality players in that. Even after his superb display on debut, he was dropped the week after and didn't really come back from that. Even when he did play, he tended to play out wide rather than through the middle.

I think you are being very hard on the BOY. Yes, let's not forget he is only a young lad.

I have a friend living in Cambridge who watched Medley a couple of times. From what he told me, Medley didn't get that many games and when he did, he didn't get the service because Cambridge were very poor. How can you say Medley was cr4p at Cambridge without knowing the facts? From what my mate said, he looked quality, but because he didn't pull them out of the sh!t on his own, he was made the scapegoat. If the service aint there, you aint going to get goals from him.

It will be a loss to this football club and I for one wish him well.

Big Man, Wetherby says...
3:01pm Thu 5 Jun 08

Waynus wrote:
gman wrote:
keeponclucking wrote: Gman - I hope you are right & that it's not a case of 'rose tinted spectacles'. I've been supporting City since 1974 & there are a hardcore of supporters who season in season out believe that next year will be their teams year.That's what being a footy fan is all about so I take my hat off to you for your enthuasism.I've still got mine after all these years - still look forward to the fixtures coming out every year - just like a big kid!
all city fans have had a depressing few years so its time we turned the ship around and set off on a grand voyage once more just like we did 15 years ago or so. i suppose people have a reason to be depressedabotu city at the moment after whats happened to us over the last 6 years or so but everybody has good and bad times so lets hope we are now ready for a good time again!!! Lets all get behind the team and things will improve - the foundations seem to be solid again after years of turbulance and bad management all round. BACK TO THE ODDS - BOOKIES ARE NOT OFTEN WRONG!!!!! surely we can all agree with that????
I placed my bet with the Bradford Bookies (has a stand at the back of the Kop) a few weeks back and took 16/1 for Promotion. I fixed the offs too expecting decent signings to arrive. I asked for back to back promotion odds but they wouldn't give me a price. I put a £10 on the nose, so I am hoping it will pay for next season's ticket in League 1!
A very good point with regards WHEN we are flying high in the league all the floating supporters who were counting on getting a freebie will have to pay £20 in, just think if they come to more than 7 games they'll be paying more than us anyways. In a way I hope we don't hit it, I know there are alot of people out there who have an "agreement" with a friend to share cost of the season tickets so it will serve them right! A nice gesture though would be to offer a discount on a replica shirt to all those that have stumped up the cash first!

COME ON CITY!

Speaking of bets what odds on beckett top scorer and city up as champions?

Big Man, Wetherby says...
3:01pm Thu 5 Jun 08

Waynus wrote:
gman wrote:
keeponclucking wrote: Gman - I hope you are right & that it's not a case of 'rose tinted spectacles'. I've been supporting City since 1974 & there are a hardcore of supporters who season in season out believe that next year will be their teams year.That's what being a footy fan is all about so I take my hat off to you for your enthuasism.I've still got mine after all these years - still look forward to the fixtures coming out every year - just like a big kid!
all city fans have had a depressing few years so its time we turned the ship around and set off on a grand voyage once more just like we did 15 years ago or so. i suppose people have a reason to be depressedabotu city at the moment after whats happened to us over the last 6 years or so but everybody has good and bad times so lets hope we are now ready for a good time again!!! Lets all get behind the team and things will improve - the foundations seem to be solid again after years of turbulance and bad management all round. BACK TO THE ODDS - BOOKIES ARE NOT OFTEN WRONG!!!!! surely we can all agree with that????
I placed my bet with the Bradford Bookies (has a stand at the back of the Kop) a few weeks back and took 16/1 for Promotion. I fixed the offs too expecting decent signings to arrive. I asked for back to back promotion odds but they wouldn't give me a price. I put a £10 on the nose, so I am hoping it will pay for next season's ticket in League 1!
A very good point with regards WHEN we are flying high in the league all the floating supporters who were counting on getting a freebie will have to pay £20 in, just think if they come to more than 7 games they'll be paying more than us anyways. In a way I hope we don't hit it, I know there are alot of people out there who have an "agreement" with a friend to share cost of the season tickets so it will serve them right! A nice gesture though would be to offer a discount on a replica shirt to all those that have stumped up the cash first!

COME ON CITY!

Speaking of bets what odds on beckett top scorer and city up as champions?

Big Man, Wetherby says...
3:01pm Thu 5 Jun 08

Waynus wrote:
gman wrote:
keeponclucking wrote: Gman - I hope you are right & that it's not a case of 'rose tinted spectacles'. I've been supporting City since 1974 & there are a hardcore of supporters who season in season out believe that next year will be their teams year.That's what being a footy fan is all about so I take my hat off to you for your enthuasism.I've still got mine after all these years - still look forward to the fixtures coming out every year - just like a big kid!
all city fans have had a depressing few years so its time we turned the ship around and set off on a grand voyage once more just like we did 15 years ago or so. i suppose people have a reason to be depressedabotu city at the moment after whats happened to us over the last 6 years or so but everybody has good and bad times so lets hope we are now ready for a good time again!!! Lets all get behind the team and things will improve - the foundations seem to be solid again after years of turbulance and bad management all round. BACK TO THE ODDS - BOOKIES ARE NOT OFTEN WRONG!!!!! surely we can all agree with that????
I placed my bet with the Bradford Bookies (has a stand at the back of the Kop) a few weeks back and took 16/1 for Promotion. I fixed the offs too expecting decent signings to arrive. I asked for back to back promotion odds but they wouldn't give me a price. I put a £10 on the nose, so I am hoping it will pay for next season's ticket in League 1!
A very good point with regards WHEN we are flying high in the league all the floating supporters who were counting on getting a freebie will have to pay £20 in, just think if they come to more than 7 games they'll be paying more than us anyways. In a way I hope we don't hit it, I know there are alot of people out there who have an "agreement" with a friend to share cost of the season tickets so it will serve them right! A nice gesture though would be to offer a discount on a replica shirt to all those that have stumped up the cash first!

COME ON CITY!

Speaking of bets what odds on beckett top scorer and city up as champions?

gman, bradford says...
3:37pm Thu 5 Jun 08

i'm sure people will tell me i'm being stupid and please point out the ramifications of not meeting the 9,000 mark.....but if we do meet the 9000 mark and everybody gets one for free then city can more or less wave goodbye to any possibility of £20 entrance fees but if we dont make the 9000 mark and people dont get a free one and we have a good season then surely the club will be onto a winner cos they will surely have a few thousand paying £20 each week??

So would be be actually better off as a club if we didn't mee the target? I'm no business guru but kind of makes sense to me..thoughts??

gman, bradford says...
3:37pm Thu 5 Jun 08

i'm sure people will tell me i'm being stupid and please point out the ramifications of not meeting the 9,000 mark.....but if we do meet the 9000 mark and everybody gets one for free then city can more or less wave goodbye to any possibility of £20 entrance fees but if we dont make the 9000 mark and people dont get a free one and we have a good season then surely the club will be onto a winner cos they will surely have a few thousand paying £20 each week??

So would be be actually better off as a club if we didn't mee the target? I'm no business guru but kind of makes sense to me..thoughts??

gman, bradford says...
3:37pm Thu 5 Jun 08

i'm sure people will tell me i'm being stupid and please point out the ramifications of not meeting the 9,000 mark.....but if we do meet the 9000 mark and everybody gets one for free then city can more or less wave goodbye to any possibility of £20 entrance fees but if we dont make the 9000 mark and people dont get a free one and we have a good season then surely the club will be onto a winner cos they will surely have a few thousand paying £20 each week??

So would be be actually better off as a club if we didn't mee the target? I'm no business guru but kind of makes sense to me..thoughts??

boparob, Bradford says...
4:25pm Thu 5 Jun 08

gman wrote:
i'm sure people will tell me i'm being stupid and please point out the ramifications of not meeting the 9,000 mark.....but if we do meet the 9000 mark and everybody gets one for free then city can more or less wave goodbye to any possibility of £20 entrance fees but if we dont make the 9000 mark and people dont get a free one and we have a good season then surely the club will be onto a winner cos they will surely have a few thousand paying £20 each week?? So would be be actually better off as a club if we didn't mee the target? I'm no business guru but kind of makes sense to me..thoughts??
Kerching....!

boparob, Bradford says...
4:25pm Thu 5 Jun 08

gman wrote:
i'm sure people will tell me i'm being stupid and please point out the ramifications of not meeting the 9,000 mark.....but if we do meet the 9000 mark and everybody gets one for free then city can more or less wave goodbye to any possibility of £20 entrance fees but if we dont make the 9000 mark and people dont get a free one and we have a good season then surely the club will be onto a winner cos they will surely have a few thousand paying £20 each week?? So would be be actually better off as a club if we didn't mee the target? I'm no business guru but kind of makes sense to me..thoughts??
Kerching....!

boparob, Bradford says...
4:25pm Thu 5 Jun 08

gman wrote:
i'm sure people will tell me i'm being stupid and please point out the ramifications of not meeting the 9,000 mark.....but if we do meet the 9000 mark and everybody gets one for free then city can more or less wave goodbye to any possibility of £20 entrance fees but if we dont make the 9000 mark and people dont get a free one and we have a good season then surely the club will be onto a winner cos they will surely have a few thousand paying £20 each week?? So would be be actually better off as a club if we didn't mee the target? I'm no business guru but kind of makes sense to me..thoughts??
Kerching....!

hattrickhero, halifax says...
5:12pm Thu 5 Jun 08

Simon Francis has been transfer listed by Southend. Good signing or a bit out of our price range in terms of wages? He is still under contract and would command a fee. Better than the RB we have ie none!!!

hattrickhero, halifax says...
5:12pm Thu 5 Jun 08

Simon Francis has been transfer listed by Southend. Good signing or a bit out of our price range in terms of wages? He is still under contract and would command a fee. Better than the RB we have ie none!!!

hattrickhero, halifax says...
5:12pm Thu 5 Jun 08

Simon Francis has been transfer listed by Southend. Good signing or a bit out of our price range in terms of wages? He is still under contract and would command a fee. Better than the RB we have ie none!!!

TrueBradfordian, Baildon says...
6:40pm Thu 5 Jun 08

The offer to Halifax fans is a non-starter. Most Halifax fans will not want to commit to watching City anyway (why should they?). More important, they don't yet know if they will have a club to watch next season. They could be playing in the Unibond League, or possibly the Norther Counties East League. Either way, most Halifax fans will remain loyal to their club whichever league they play in. And why would they want a £99 BCFC season ticket if half their fixtures are likely to clash?

This may be a genuine, generous offer, but it smacks of an opportunist attempt to steal another club's fans at a time of crisis.

TrueBradfordian, Baildon says...
6:40pm Thu 5 Jun 08

The offer to Halifax fans is a non-starter. Most Halifax fans will not want to commit to watching City anyway (why should they?). More important, they don't yet know if they will have a club to watch next season. They could be playing in the Unibond League, or possibly the Norther Counties East League. Either way, most Halifax fans will remain loyal to their club whichever league they play in. And why would they want a £99 BCFC season ticket if half their fixtures are likely to clash?

This may be a genuine, generous offer, but it smacks of an opportunist attempt to steal another club's fans at a time of crisis.

TrueBradfordian, Baildon says...
6:40pm Thu 5 Jun 08

The offer to Halifax fans is a non-starter. Most Halifax fans will not want to commit to watching City anyway (why should they?). More important, they don't yet know if they will have a club to watch next season. They could be playing in the Unibond League, or possibly the Norther Counties East League. Either way, most Halifax fans will remain loyal to their club whichever league they play in. And why would they want a £99 BCFC season ticket if half their fixtures are likely to clash?

This may be a genuine, generous offer, but it smacks of an opportunist attempt to steal another club's fans at a time of crisis.

Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
7:33pm Thu 5 Jun 08

Medley has obviously seen the light, a pity a lot of the fans have not. tyker is going down the right road with his assumptions in respect of implications on both the company ALLEGEDLY behind the deal and the club. You know what HMRC are like when they see a way in. Look at facts lads, the season ticket offer was a con from the start in order to get revenue in as soon as possible and now this offer. What about a refund for those with a HX postcode who have already purchased a ticket. Management seem to come up with a good idea on one point but it is bad on half a dozen. Will be looking for coupons to collect in the T&A next week for a discounted ticket. Things must be in a worse situation than even I thought.

Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
7:33pm Thu 5 Jun 08

Medley has obviously seen the light, a pity a lot of the fans have not. tyker is going down the right road with his assumptions in respect of implications on both the company ALLEGEDLY behind the deal and the club. You know what HMRC are like when they see a way in. Look at facts lads, the season ticket offer was a con from the start in order to get revenue in as soon as possible and now this offer. What about a refund for those with a HX postcode who have already purchased a ticket. Management seem to come up with a good idea on one point but it is bad on half a dozen. Will be looking for coupons to collect in the T&A next week for a discounted ticket. Things must be in a worse situation than even I thought.

Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
7:33pm Thu 5 Jun 08

Medley has obviously seen the light, a pity a lot of the fans have not. tyker is going down the right road with his assumptions in respect of implications on both the company ALLEGEDLY behind the deal and the club. You know what HMRC are like when they see a way in. Look at facts lads, the season ticket offer was a con from the start in order to get revenue in as soon as possible and now this offer. What about a refund for those with a HX postcode who have already purchased a ticket. Management seem to come up with a good idea on one point but it is bad on half a dozen. Will be looking for coupons to collect in the T&A next week for a discounted ticket. Things must be in a worse situation than even I thought.

Big Mal, Bradford says...
7:39pm Thu 5 Jun 08

DickieBCFC wrote:
"No argument. As for another post stating how unsociable he was and the inference of "good riddance", then why did McCall offer him terms to stay." He offered him terms in order to get a fee when he signs somewhere else.
Don't quite understand that reasoning.

You offer someone a contract to keep them. Are you suggesting City offered him a contract for £100 per week, so he'd turn it down?

Who the hell is going to pay a fee for a 19 year old who hardly started a game in the Fourth Division.

New ploy, let's offer terms to all the Youth Team in the hope they'll all turn it down! Then when every other club rushes in to sign them , we'll make a fortune! Of course if noone does, we'll be lumbered with paying wages for players we didn't want.

Was the sun really that hot today?

Big Mal, Bradford says...
7:39pm Thu 5 Jun 08

DickieBCFC wrote:
"No argument. As for another post stating how unsociable he was and the inference of "good riddance", then why did McCall offer him terms to stay." He offered him terms in order to get a fee when he signs somewhere else.
Don't quite understand that reasoning.

You offer someone a contract to keep them. Are you suggesting City offered him a contract for £100 per week, so he'd turn it down?

Who the hell is going to pay a fee for a 19 year old who hardly started a game in the Fourth Division.

New ploy, let's offer terms to all the Youth Team in the hope they'll all turn it down! Then when every other club rushes in to sign them , we'll make a fortune! Of course if noone does, we'll be lumbered with paying wages for players we didn't want.

Was the sun really that hot today?

Big Mal, Bradford says...
7:39pm Thu 5 Jun 08

DickieBCFC wrote:
"No argument. As for another post stating how unsociable he was and the inference of "good riddance", then why did McCall offer him terms to stay." He offered him terms in order to get a fee when he signs somewhere else.
Don't quite understand that reasoning.

You offer someone a contract to keep them. Are you suggesting City offered him a contract for £100 per week, so he'd turn it down?

Who the hell is going to pay a fee for a 19 year old who hardly started a game in the Fourth Division.

New ploy, let's offer terms to all the Youth Team in the hope they'll all turn it down! Then when every other club rushes in to sign them , we'll make a fortune! Of course if noone does, we'll be lumbered with paying wages for players we didn't want.

Was the sun really that hot today?

Big Mal, Bradford says...
7:53pm Thu 5 Jun 08

JM wrote:
Big Mal wrote:
JM wrote: yes he was given a fiar crack of the whip. he had a few sub games (Wrexham, Grimsby away) but plenty of average ones. when we had other strikers who were clearly better what is the manager supposed to do, look after Bradford City and what's best for them or look after Luke Medley? in the final few games he got a chance and did ok at best, and was offered a deal. the move for Beckett/boulding. And already having Topp/Thorne/Conlon suggest Medley will only be a reserve player again next season, fair enough that he doesn't want to stick around and fight for his place. He was given his chance and fans always forget reserve games and training. Is he good enough to lead City to a promotion push next year, ahead of strikers like Thorne etc, the answer is no. good luck in the future but for gods sake lets not start a thoughtless moan thread that Medley never got a decent chance!
Tell me how many games Medley started. Then tell me how many games Daley started. Then tell me that Daley merited all his starts. No argument. As for another post stating how unsociable he was and the inference of "good riddance", then why did McCall offer him terms to stay. If I was in Medley's shoes, I'dalso have looked elsewhere. All managers have favourites, it's no big deal, but don't anyone say Medley was given his chance because, quite clearly, he wasn't.
What has Daley got to do with it? He's a winger and occasionally a striker, is your beef that Daley was included on the wing ahead of Medley? Why not go the whole hog and complain that Ricketts was given more chances! At the end of the day Medley was given opportunities and on some occasions looked good but in others no where near good enough. When you come in to matches you have to show a certain standard consistently and Medley clearly didn't do that. It was there for us all to see (Barney and Brentford home games). Having said that Stuart offered him a new deal because he could get better next season. How you can honestly say he didn't get a chance is beyond me. Lets remember it's his decision to leave, not Stuart's. We'll see where he ends up playing next season, but I doubt we'll be looking back with regret at losing him somehow.
I was stating a fact. Personally, I don't give too hoots whether he stays or goes.

My argument, using Daley as an example, was that he was consistently poor and disinterested and was consistently picked.

Medley barely started any games but showed promise when he came on as sub with minutes to go in several games.

I repeat, "he never got a fair crack of the whip" - compared to other favoured players.

Big Mal, Bradford says...
7:53pm Thu 5 Jun 08

JM wrote:
Big Mal wrote:
JM wrote: yes he was given a fiar crack of the whip. he had a few sub games (Wrexham, Grimsby away) but plenty of average ones. when we had other strikers who were clearly better what is the manager supposed to do, look after Bradford City and what's best for them or look after Luke Medley? in the final few games he got a chance and did ok at best, and was offered a deal. the move for Beckett/boulding. And already having Topp/Thorne/Conlon suggest Medley will only be a reserve player again next season, fair enough that he doesn't want to stick around and fight for his place. He was given his chance and fans always forget reserve games and training. Is he good enough to lead City to a promotion push next year, ahead of strikers like Thorne etc, the answer is no. good luck in the future but for gods sake lets not start a thoughtless moan thread that Medley never got a decent chance!
Tell me how many games Medley started. Then tell me how many games Daley started. Then tell me that Daley merited all his starts. No argument. As for another post stating how unsociable he was and the inference of "good riddance", then why did McCall offer him terms to stay. If I was in Medley's shoes, I'dalso have looked elsewhere. All managers have favourites, it's no big deal, but don't anyone say Medley was given his chance because, quite clearly, he wasn't.
What has Daley got to do with it? He's a winger and occasionally a striker, is your beef that Daley was included on the wing ahead of Medley? Why not go the whole hog and complain that Ricketts was given more chances! At the end of the day Medley was given opportunities and on some occasions looked good but in others no where near good enough. When you come in to matches you have to show a certain standard consistently and Medley clearly didn't do that. It was there for us all to see (Barney and Brentford home games). Having said that Stuart offered him a new deal because he could get better next season. How you can honestly say he didn't get a chance is beyond me. Lets remember it's his decision to leave, not Stuart's. We'll see where he ends up playing next season, but I doubt we'll be looking back with regret at losing him somehow.
I was stating a fact. Personally, I don't give too hoots whether he stays or goes.

My argument, using Daley as an example, was that he was consistently poor and disinterested and was consistently picked.

Medley barely started any games but showed promise when he came on as sub with minutes to go in several games.

I repeat, "he never got a fair crack of the whip" - compared to other favoured players.

Big Mal, Bradford says...
7:53pm Thu 5 Jun 08

JM wrote:
Big Mal wrote:
JM wrote: yes he was given a fiar crack of the whip. he had a few sub games (Wrexham, Grimsby away) but plenty of average ones. when we had other strikers who were clearly better what is the manager supposed to do, look after Bradford City and what's best for them or look after Luke Medley? in the final few games he got a chance and did ok at best, and was offered a deal. the move for Beckett/boulding. And already having Topp/Thorne/Conlon suggest Medley will only be a reserve player again next season, fair enough that he doesn't want to stick around and fight for his place. He was given his chance and fans always forget reserve games and training. Is he good enough to lead City to a promotion push next year, ahead of strikers like Thorne etc, the answer is no. good luck in the future but for gods sake lets not start a thoughtless moan thread that Medley never got a decent chance!
Tell me how many games Medley started. Then tell me how many games Daley started. Then tell me that Daley merited all his starts. No argument. As for another post stating how unsociable he was and the inference of "good riddance", then why did McCall offer him terms to stay. If I was in Medley's shoes, I'dalso have looked elsewhere. All managers have favourites, it's no big deal, but don't anyone say Medley was given his chance because, quite clearly, he wasn't.
What has Daley got to do with it? He's a winger and occasionally a striker, is your beef that Daley was included on the wing ahead of Medley? Why not go the whole hog and complain that Ricketts was given more chances! At the end of the day Medley was given opportunities and on some occasions looked good but in others no where near good enough. When you come in to matches you have to show a certain standard consistently and Medley clearly didn't do that. It was there for us all to see (Barney and Brentford home games). Having said that Stuart offered him a new deal because he could get better next season. How you can honestly say he didn't get a chance is beyond me. Lets remember it's his decision to leave, not Stuart's. We'll see where he ends up playing next season, but I doubt we'll be looking back with regret at losing him somehow.
I was stating a fact. Personally, I don't give too hoots whether he stays or goes.

My argument, using Daley as an example, was that he was consistently poor and disinterested and was consistently picked.

Medley barely started any games but showed promise when he came on as sub with minutes to go in several games.

I repeat, "he never got a fair crack of the whip" - compared to other favoured players.

Waynus, Bradford 6 says...
11:25pm Thu 5 Jun 08

Big Mal wrote:
JM wrote:
Big Mal wrote:
JM wrote: yes he was given a fiar crack of the whip. he had a few sub games (Wrexham, Grimsby away) but plenty of average ones. when we had other strikers who were clearly better what is the manager supposed to do, look after Bradford City and what's best for them or look after Luke Medley? in the final few games he got a chance and did ok at best, and was offered a deal. the move for Beckett/boulding. And already having Topp/Thorne/Conlon suggest Medley will only be a reserve player again next season, fair enough that he doesn't want to stick around and fight for his place. He was given his chance and fans always forget reserve games and training. Is he good enough to lead City to a promotion push next year, ahead of strikers like Thorne etc, the answer is no. good luck in the future but for gods sake lets not start a thoughtless moan thread that Medley never got a decent chance!
Tell me how many games Medley started. Then tell me how many games Daley started. Then tell me that Daley merited all his starts. No argument. As for another post stating how unsociable he was and the inference of "good riddance", then why did McCall offer him terms to stay. If I was in Medley's shoes, I'dalso have looked elsewhere. All managers have favourites, it's no big deal, but don't anyone say Medley was given his chance because, quite clearly, he wasn't.
What has Daley got to do with it? He's a winger and occasionally a striker, is your beef that Daley was included on the wing ahead of Medley? Why not go the whole hog and complain that Ricketts was given more chances! At the end of the day Medley was given opportunities and on some occasions looked good but in others no where near good enough. When you come in to matches you have to show a certain standard consistently and Medley clearly didn't do that. It was there for us all to see (Barney and Brentford home games). Having said that Stuart offered him a new deal because he could get better next season. How you can honestly say he didn't get a chance is beyond me. Lets remember it's his decision to leave, not Stuart's. We'll see where he ends up playing next season, but I doubt we'll be looking back with regret at losing him somehow.
I was stating a fact. Personally, I don't give too hoots whether he stays or goes.

My argument, using Daley as an example, was that he was consistently poor and disinterested and was consistently picked.

Medley barely started any games but showed promise when he came on as sub with minutes to go in several games.

I repeat, "he never got a fair crack of the whip" - compared to other favoured players.
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Waynus, Bradford 6 says...
11:25pm Thu 5 Jun 08

Big Mal wrote:
JM wrote:
Big Mal wrote:
JM wrote: yes he was given a fiar crack of the whip. he had a few sub games (Wrexham, Grimsby away) but plenty of average ones. when we had other strikers who were clearly better what is the manager supposed to do, look after Bradford City and what's best for them or look after Luke Medley? in the final few games he got a chance and did ok at best, and was offered a deal. the move for Beckett/boulding. And already having Topp/Thorne/Conlon suggest Medley will only be a reserve player again next season, fair enough that he doesn't want to stick around and fight for his place. He was given his chance and fans always forget reserve games and training. Is he good enough to lead City to a promotion push next year, ahead of strikers like Thorne etc, the answer is no. good luck in the future but for gods sake lets not start a thoughtless moan thread that Medley never got a decent chance!
Tell me how many games Medley started. Then tell me how many games Daley started. Then tell me that Daley merited all his starts. No argument. As for another post stating how unsociable he was and the inference of "good riddance", then why did McCall offer him terms to stay. If I was in Medley's shoes, I'dalso have looked elsewhere. All managers have favourites, it's no big deal, but don't anyone say Medley was given his chance because, quite clearly, he wasn't.
What has Daley got to do with it? He's a winger and occasionally a striker, is your beef that Daley was included on the wing ahead of Medley? Why not go the whole hog and complain that Ricketts was given more chances! At the end of the day Medley was given opportunities and on some occasions looked good but in others no where near good enough. When you come in to matches you have to show a certain standard consistently and Medley clearly didn't do that. It was there for us all to see (Barney and Brentford home games). Having said that Stuart offered him a new deal because he could get better next season. How you can honestly say he didn't get a chance is beyond me. Lets remember it's his decision to leave, not Stuart's. We'll see where he ends up playing next season, but I doubt we'll be looking back with regret at losing him somehow.
I was stating a fact. Personally, I don't give too hoots whether he stays or goes.

My argument, using Daley as an example, was that he was consistently poor and disinterested and was consistently picked.

Medley barely started any games but showed promise when he came on as sub with minutes to go in several games.

I repeat, "he never got a fair crack of the whip" - compared to other favoured players.
Here Here.

Waynus, Bradford 6 says...
11:25pm Thu 5 Jun 08

Big Mal wrote:
JM wrote:
Big Mal wrote:
JM wrote: yes he was given a fiar crack of the whip. he had a few sub games (Wrexham, Grimsby away) but plenty of average ones. when we had other strikers who were clearly better what is the manager supposed to do, look after Bradford City and what's best for them or look after Luke Medley? in the final few games he got a chance and did ok at best, and was offered a deal. the move for Beckett/boulding. And already having Topp/Thorne/Conlon suggest Medley will only be a reserve player again next season, fair enough that he doesn't want to stick around and fight for his place. He was given his chance and fans always forget reserve games and training. Is he good enough to lead City to a promotion push next year, ahead of strikers like Thorne etc, the answer is no. good luck in the future but for gods sake lets not start a thoughtless moan thread that Medley never got a decent chance!
Tell me how many games Medley started. Then tell me how many games Daley started. Then tell me that Daley merited all his starts. No argument. As for another post stating how unsociable he was and the inference of "good riddance", then why did McCall offer him terms to stay. If I was in Medley's shoes, I'dalso have looked elsewhere. All managers have favourites, it's no big deal, but don't anyone say Medley was given his chance because, quite clearly, he wasn't.
What has Daley got to do with it? He's a winger and occasionally a striker, is your beef that Daley was included on the wing ahead of Medley? Why not go the whole hog and complain that Ricketts was given more chances! At the end of the day Medley was given opportunities and on some occasions looked good but in others no where near good enough. When you come in to matches you have to show a certain standard consistently and Medley clearly didn't do that. It was there for us all to see (Barney and Brentford home games). Having said that Stuart offered him a new deal because he could get better next season. How you can honestly say he didn't get a chance is beyond me. Lets remember it's his decision to leave, not Stuart's. We'll see where he ends up playing next season, but I doubt we'll be looking back with regret at losing him somehow.
I was stating a fact. Personally, I don't give too hoots whether he stays or goes.

My argument, using Daley as an example, was that he was consistently poor and disinterested and was consistently picked.

Medley barely started any games but showed promise when he came on as sub with minutes to go in several games.

I repeat, "he never got a fair crack of the whip" - compared to other favoured players.
Here Here.

Waynus, Bradford 6 says...
11:31pm Thu 5 Jun 08

hattrickhero wrote:
Simon Francis has been transfer listed by Southend. Good signing or a bit out of our price range in terms of wages? He is still under contract and would command a fee. Better than the RB we have ie none!!!
I would still only sign him as a last resort. He wasn't that good when we last had him and I couldn't believe our luck when Sheffield Utd paid a substantial fee for him. I would still rather get Doyle on a season long loan. If only that was possible. Pleeeaaaase!

Waynus, Bradford 6 says...
11:31pm Thu 5 Jun 08

hattrickhero wrote:
Simon Francis has been transfer listed by Southend. Good signing or a bit out of our price range in terms of wages? He is still under contract and would command a fee. Better than the RB we have ie none!!!
I would still only sign him as a last resort. He wasn't that good when we last had him and I couldn't believe our luck when Sheffield Utd paid a substantial fee for him. I would still rather get Doyle on a season long loan. If only that was possible. Pleeeaaaase!

Waynus, Bradford 6 says...
11:31pm Thu 5 Jun 08

hattrickhero wrote:
Simon Francis has been transfer listed by Southend. Good signing or a bit out of our price range in terms of wages? He is still under contract and would command a fee. Better than the RB we have ie none!!!
I would still only sign him as a last resort. He wasn't that good when we last had him and I couldn't believe our luck when Sheffield Utd paid a substantial fee for him. I would still rather get Doyle on a season long loan. If only that was possible. Pleeeaaaase!

Luke, Leeds says...
11:48pm Thu 5 Jun 08

hattrickhero wrote:
Simon Francis has been transfer listed by Southend. Good signing or a bit out of our price range in terms of wages? He is still under contract and would command a fee. Better than the RB we have ie none!!!
What a signing that would be he was fantastic while we had him. Best right back since Super Gunnar, although he did have a shaky start at the club. Sometimes not completely solid in defence but had pace to recover from his mistakes and was only young so we couldn't expect him to not make some errors. He also offered a lot going forward, something we haven't had from a right back since probably Uhlembeek. I would much rather have him permanently than Doyle just for a season! For starters I think he was better than Doyle anyway

However I do think he will be out of our price range, tranfer fee and wages will add up. But I hope SM enquires and if not get him snapped up. A signing that would really excite me for one.

Luke, Leeds says...
11:48pm Thu 5 Jun 08

hattrickhero wrote:
Simon Francis has been transfer listed by Southend. Good signing or a bit out of our price range in terms of wages? He is still under contract and would command a fee. Better than the RB we have ie none!!!
What a signing that would be he was fantastic while we had him. Best right back since Super Gunnar, although he did have a shaky start at the club. Sometimes not completely solid in defence but had pace to recover from his mistakes and was only young so we couldn't expect him to not make some errors. He also offered a lot going forward, something we haven't had from a right back since probably Uhlembeek. I would much rather have him permanently than Doyle just for a season! For starters I think he was better than Doyle anyway

However I do think he will be out of our price range, tranfer fee and wages will add up. But I hope SM enquires and if not get him snapped up. A signing that would really excite me for one.

Luke, Leeds says...
11:48pm Thu 5 Jun 08

hattrickhero wrote:
Simon Francis has been transfer listed by Southend. Good signing or a bit out of our price range in terms of wages? He is still under contract and would command a fee. Better than the RB we have ie none!!!
What a signing that would be he was fantastic while we had him. Best right back since Super Gunnar, although he did have a shaky start at the club. Sometimes not completely solid in defence but had pace to recover from his mistakes and was only young so we couldn't expect him to not make some errors. He also offered a lot going forward, something we haven't had from a right back since probably Uhlembeek. I would much rather have him permanently than Doyle just for a season! For starters I think he was better than Doyle anyway

However I do think he will be out of our price range, tranfer fee and wages will add up. But I hope SM enquires and if not get him snapped up. A signing that would really excite me for one.

Luke, Leeds says...
12:44am Fri 6 Jun 08

Also just looked on the Southend website he's been tranfers listed because he turned down an IMPROVED contract. This probably suggests that unfortunately Francis will be out of our price range. I really hope not.

Luke, Leeds says...
12:44am Fri 6 Jun 08

Also just looked on the Southend website he's been tranfers listed because he turned down an IMPROVED contract. This probably suggests that unfortunately Francis will be out of our price range. I really hope not.

Luke, Leeds says...
12:44am Fri 6 Jun 08

Also just looked on the Southend website he's been tranfers listed because he turned down an IMPROVED contract. This probably suggests that unfortunately Francis will be out of our price range. I really hope not.

marcodelapuebla, Riddlesden says...
5:49am Fri 6 Jun 08

Medley was the kind of 10 a penny youth rubbish we have become used to over the recent times. He couldn't cut it at Cambridge City so don't hold your breath for a fee. I think we have forgotten that strikers are there to score goals. Only Thorne stacks up on that front. Topp and the awful Conlon just don't. You don't get out of this league with the wasted chances Conlon doesn't convertas a matter of routine.

marcodelapuebla, Riddlesden says...
5:49am Fri 6 Jun 08

Medley was the kind of 10 a penny youth rubbish we have become used to over the recent times. He couldn't cut it at Cambridge City so don't hold your breath for a fee. I think we have forgotten that strikers are there to score goals. Only Thorne stacks up on that front. Topp and the awful Conlon just don't. You don't get out of this league with the wasted chances Conlon doesn't convertas a matter of routine.

marcodelapuebla, Riddlesden says...
5:49am Fri 6 Jun 08

Medley was the kind of 10 a penny youth rubbish we have become used to over the recent times. He couldn't cut it at Cambridge City so don't hold your breath for a fee. I think we have forgotten that strikers are there to score goals. Only Thorne stacks up on that front. Topp and the awful Conlon just don't. You don't get out of this league with the wasted chances Conlon doesn't convertas a matter of routine.

Waynus, Bradford 6 says...
6:09pm Fri 6 Jun 08

marcodelapuebla wrote:
Medley was the kind of 10 a penny youth rubbish we have become used to over the recent times. He couldn't cut it at Cambridge City so don't hold your breath for a fee. I think we have forgotten that strikers are there to score goals. Only Thorne stacks up on that front. Topp and the awful Conlon just don't. You don't get out of this league with the wasted chances Conlon doesn't convertas a matter of routine.
Can you read or do you just decide not to. I have already addressed the Medley in Cambidge colours issue and that was that he wasn't given a fair crack. He played up front and never got the service. I agree a striker's job is to score goals. However, he must be given service and he certainly never got that at Cambridge (according to my mate that saw him in action).

As for games in a City shirt, you can't expect 'raw talent and that is what McCall often referred him as' to perform in just 10 minutes her and 15 minutes there. Even Thorne took a few FULL games to settle into the team and start scoring regularly.

Waynus, Bradford 6 says...
6:09pm Fri 6 Jun 08

marcodelapuebla wrote:
Medley was the kind of 10 a penny youth rubbish we have become used to over the recent times. He couldn't cut it at Cambridge City so don't hold your breath for a fee. I think we have forgotten that strikers are there to score goals. Only Thorne stacks up on that front. Topp and the awful Conlon just don't. You don't get out of this league with the wasted chances Conlon doesn't convertas a matter of routine.
Can you read or do you just decide not to. I have already addressed the Medley in Cambidge colours issue and that was that he wasn't given a fair crack. He played up front and never got the service. I agree a striker's job is to score goals. However, he must be given service and he certainly never got that at Cambridge (according to my mate that saw him in action).

As for games in a City shirt, you can't expect 'raw talent and that is what McCall often referred him as' to perform in just 10 minutes her and 15 minutes there. Even Thorne took a few FULL games to settle into the team and start scoring regularly.

Waynus, Bradford 6 says...
6:09pm Fri 6 Jun 08

marcodelapuebla wrote:
Medley was the kind of 10 a penny youth rubbish we have become used to over the recent times. He couldn't cut it at Cambridge City so don't hold your breath for a fee. I think we have forgotten that strikers are there to score goals. Only Thorne stacks up on that front. Topp and the awful Conlon just don't. You don't get out of this league with the wasted chances Conlon doesn't convertas a matter of routine.
Can you read or do you just decide not to. I have already addressed the Medley in Cambidge colours issue and that was that he wasn't given a fair crack. He played up front and never got the service. I agree a striker's job is to score goals. However, he must be given service and he certainly never got that at Cambridge (according to my mate that saw him in action).

As for games in a City shirt, you can't expect 'raw talent and that is what McCall often referred him as' to perform in just 10 minutes her and 15 minutes there. Even Thorne took a few FULL games to settle into the team and start scoring regularly.

Henley B, Timbukthree says...
6:43am Sat 7 Jun 08

Bendix wrote:
keeponclucking wrote:
I'm horrified to find we are now 9-1 favourites with Bet 365 to win the 2nd Div title. Whilst I hope they are right they obviously didn't see our defence play last season & I'm not sure we need the pressure of expectation as it didn't help us in the last campaign. How about a debate on Willy Topp? He came in a blaze of publicity but is constantly injured, made only 6 appearances (5 as sub)& has perfected the art of play acting. Whilst he undoubtedly has talent will he ever make an impact? Seems strange that some folk say signing Beckett is a luxury we can't afford when we are 'carrying'this chap...your thoughts please!
A very good post. I had doubts about Willy Topp (zero goals) and the instant fan worship which seemed to be based on the fact that he was from Chile. Similar hysteria surrounded Danny Forrest all because of a wonder goal. Fans saw him as the answer to all their troubles but he wasn't even the answer to Halifax's goal scoring woes.
I've seen some brilliant things from Topp but I'll reserve judgement on him. I'd say if he's not a force in Div 2 next season then you may well be right in suggesting he's a passenger.
As for Woodface's criticisms of this country I'd say things are pretty good in Skipton - and would be even better if all the whingeing Poms sod off to Australia.
All the whinging poms already have!

Henley B, Timbukthree says...
6:43am Sat 7 Jun 08

Bendix wrote:
keeponclucking wrote:
I'm horrified to find we are now 9-1 favourites with Bet 365 to win the 2nd Div title. Whilst I hope they are right they obviously didn't see our defence play last season & I'm not sure we need the pressure of expectation as it didn't help us in the last campaign. How about a debate on Willy Topp? He came in a blaze of publicity but is constantly injured, made only 6 appearances (5 as sub)& has perfected the art of play acting. Whilst he undoubtedly has talent will he ever make an impact? Seems strange that some folk say signing Beckett is a luxury we can't afford when we are 'carrying'this chap...your thoughts please!
A very good post. I had doubts about Willy Topp (zero goals) and the instant fan worship which seemed to be based on the fact that he was from Chile. Similar hysteria surrounded Danny Forrest all because of a wonder goal. Fans saw him as the answer to all their troubles but he wasn't even the answer to Halifax's goal scoring woes.
I've seen some brilliant things from Topp but I'll reserve judgement on him. I'd say if he's not a force in Div 2 next season then you may well be right in suggesting he's a passenger.
As for Woodface's criticisms of this country I'd say things are pretty good in Skipton - and would be even better if all the whingeing Poms sod off to Australia.
All the whinging poms already have!

Henley B, Timbukthree says...
6:43am Sat 7 Jun 08

Bendix wrote:
keeponclucking wrote:
I'm horrified to find we are now 9-1 favourites with Bet 365 to win the 2nd Div title. Whilst I hope they are right they obviously didn't see our defence play last season & I'm not sure we need the pressure of expectation as it didn't help us in the last campaign. How about a debate on Willy Topp? He came in a blaze of publicity but is constantly injured, made only 6 appearances (5 as sub)& has perfected the art of play acting. Whilst he undoubtedly has talent will he ever make an impact? Seems strange that some folk say signing Beckett is a luxury we can't afford when we are 'carrying'this chap...your thoughts please!
A very good post. I had doubts about Willy Topp (zero goals) and the instant fan worship which seemed to be based on the fact that he was from Chile. Similar hysteria surrounded Danny Forrest all because of a wonder goal. Fans saw him as the answer to all their troubles but he wasn't even the answer to Halifax's goal scoring woes.
I've seen some brilliant things from Topp but I'll reserve judgement on him. I'd say if he's not a force in Div 2 next season then you may well be right in suggesting he's a passenger.
As for Woodface's criticisms of this country I'd say things are pretty good in Skipton - and would be even better if all the whingeing Poms sod off to Australia.
All the whinging poms already have!

Oxford Bantam, Oxford says...
8:50am Sat 7 Jun 08

Waynus wrote:
marcodelapuebla wrote: Medley was the kind of 10 a penny youth rubbish we have become used to over the recent times. He couldn't cut it at Cambridge City so don't hold your breath for a fee. I think we have forgotten that strikers are there to score goals. Only Thorne stacks up on that front. Topp and the awful Conlon just don't. You don't get out of this league with the wasted chances Conlon doesn't convertas a matter of routine.
Can you read or do you just decide not to. I have already addressed the Medley in Cambidge colours issue and that was that he wasn't given a fair crack. He played up front and never got the service. I agree a striker's job is to score goals. However, he must be given service and he certainly never got that at Cambridge (according to my mate that saw him in action). As for games in a City shirt, you can't expect 'raw talent and that is what McCall often referred him as' to perform in just 10 minutes her and 15 minutes there. Even Thorne took a few FULL games to settle into the team and start scoring regularly.
Your still an anus - waynus.

Oxford Bantam, Oxford says...
8:50am Sat 7 Jun 08

Waynus wrote:
marcodelapuebla wrote: Medley was the kind of 10 a penny youth rubbish we have become used to over the recent times. He couldn't cut it at Cambridge City so don't hold your breath for a fee. I think we have forgotten that strikers are there to score goals. Only Thorne stacks up on that front. Topp and the awful Conlon just don't. You don't get out of this league with the wasted chances Conlon doesn't convertas a matter of routine.
Can you read or do you just decide not to. I have already addressed the Medley in Cambidge colours issue and that was that he wasn't given a fair crack. He played up front and never got the service. I agree a striker's job is to score goals. However, he must be given service and he certainly never got that at Cambridge (according to my mate that saw him in action). As for games in a City shirt, you can't expect 'raw talent and that is what McCall often referred him as' to perform in just 10 minutes her and 15 minutes there. Even Thorne took a few FULL games to settle into the team and start scoring regularly.
Your still an anus - waynus.

Oxford Bantam, Oxford says...
8:50am Sat 7 Jun 08

Waynus wrote:
marcodelapuebla wrote: Medley was the kind of 10 a penny youth rubbish we have become used to over the recent times. He couldn't cut it at Cambridge City so don't hold your breath for a fee. I think we have forgotten that strikers are there to score goals. Only Thorne stacks up on that front. Topp and the awful Conlon just don't. You don't get out of this league with the wasted chances Conlon doesn't convertas a matter of routine.
Can you read or do you just decide not to. I have already addressed the Medley in Cambidge colours issue and that was that he wasn't given a fair crack. He played up front and never got the service. I agree a striker's job is to score goals. However, he must be given service and he certainly never got that at Cambridge (according to my mate that saw him in action). As for games in a City shirt, you can't expect 'raw talent and that is what McCall often referred him as' to perform in just 10 minutes her and 15 minutes there. Even Thorne took a few FULL games to settle into the team and start scoring regularly.
Your still an anus - waynus.

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Luke Medley, left, celebrates his goal against Wycombe on the final day of the season with Kyle Nix in what proved to be his last game for the club

Luke Medley, left, celebrates his goal against Wycombe on the final day of the season with Kyle Nix in what proved to be his last game for the club



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