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City vice-chairman calls it quits
7:32am Tuesday 13th May 2008
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Jim Brown today announced he is standing down as City's vice-chairman.
The 51-year-old, one of the key members of the steering committee that helped the club back from the financial brink in 2004, feels his position is no longer so relevant with two men at the Valley Parade controls.
If they had told me four years ago the position we’d be in now, then I would have taken it. That was such a bleak time that you couldn’t look any further than a week on Friday
Jim Brown
"My role has changed in the last 12 months," he said, referring to the arrival of Mark Lawn alongside Julian Rhodes. "When you've two chairmen in charge, it's not that critical.
"We've got new ownership of the football club now and they have their own ideas. It's time to give the new brush a chance and I wish them well.
"I don't leave with any bad feelings and I'm very grateful for the support I've always been given by Julian.
"He deserves so much credit for his self-sacrifice and consistently going above and beyond the call of duty. The club was a mess four or five years ago but we are moving forward slowly and on solid foundations."
Brown, a former chairman at Halifax, was appointed to the City board by Rhodes in January 2005 - six months after that fateful day when the club's future hung by a thread.
He said: "I remember the administrator running round like a lunatic that morning and it didn't look good. He was getting a bit nervous wondering where we were heading.
"When you think about the masses of problems we had in all areas, it was an absolutely dreadful time.
"My biggest fear was not making it to the season. Two weeks before the first game we didn't have anything.
"We didn't have a team; we didn't have a safety certificate so couldn't have played any home games; we hadn't even sorted out a coach to travel away.
"I thought Colin Todd did a great job under difficult circumstances. I don't think people realised just how difficult they were.
"I know we've been disappointed with the results and where we are in the league but when you look at the resources available for teams like Peterborough and Darlington, there is never a level playing field.
"But at least we've got a football club. It's a real testimony to the hard work of so many people that we have got this far.
"If they had told me four years ago the position we'd be in now, then I would have taken it.
"That was such a bleak time that you couldn't look any further than a week on Friday.
"It's going to take some time to start getting back up but hopefully we will have learned lessons from before."
Rhodes said: "I would like to thank Jim for everything he has done. It's a tall order to ask somebody to do things for nothing and we've become very good friends over the years.
"Jim has taken flak at times, as we all do, but it is undeserved flak. In all my dealings with him, I've found Jim to be an honest and honourable gentleman to deal with."
Brown can now concentrate on running his property restoration business and he is also chairman of governors at Buttershaw Business and Enterprise College. But he will still be a regular watcher at Valley Parade.
"I've always been a hands-on individual and always believed in a team effort and people pulling together. There's a new team at the helm, they've put the money in and it's how they see it going forward from here.
"But I've always been a supporter of the club and that won't change. I will be there at home games, whether it's in a box or sitting in the stand."
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EVO, Brands says...
7:55am Tue 13 May 08
I would like to say thank you to Jim Brown for all his efforts in working to ensure Bradford City survive. Once again thanks
EVO, Brands says...
7:55am Tue 13 May 08
I would like to say thank you to Jim Brown for all his efforts in working to ensure Bradford City survive. Once again thanks
Bendix, skipton says...
8:26am Tue 13 May 08
If Insensible posts anything, just ignore it. I'm boycotting him and all sensible City fans will do likewise
Bendix, skipton says...
8:26am Tue 13 May 08
If Insensible posts anything, just ignore it. I'm boycotting him and all sensible City fans will do likewise
Bendix, skipton says...
8:26am Tue 13 May 08
If Insensible posts anything, just ignore it. I'm boycotting him and all sensible City fans will do likewise
JM, Skipton says...
8:26am Tue 13 May 08
agreed! Jim Brown and the gang of five, by all accounts, saved City when they were heading to the wall that July morning. They got the broken communication going again and helped a deal be agreed.
While the club were still in adminstration during the first few months of the 2004/05 season, Brown was effectively in charge and his leadership during such difficult times should not be forgotten.
He's always come across as a honest and likeable character, with the club's best interests at heart. if it wasn't for people like him there would be no BCFC and however we progress over the next few years, we should never forget how close we came to going bust.
BCFC has had some horrible times, but we're still all here supporting them and under stuart we will start to go forward. Mark Lawn is making a difference, but it's only thanks to the efforts of people like Brown that he can.
a true city gent
While the club were still in adminstration during the first few months of the 2004/05 season, Brown was effectively in charge and his leadership during such difficult times should not be forgotten.
He's always come across as a honest and likeable character, with the club's best interests at heart. if it wasn't for people like him there would be no BCFC and however we progress over the next few years, we should never forget how close we came to going bust.
BCFC has had some horrible times, but we're still all here supporting them and under stuart we will start to go forward. Mark Lawn is making a difference, but it's only thanks to the efforts of people like Brown that he can.
a true city gent
JM, Skipton says...
8:26am Tue 13 May 08
agreed! Jim Brown and the gang of five, by all accounts, saved City when they were heading to the wall that July morning. They got the broken communication going again and helped a deal be agreed.
While the club were still in adminstration during the first few months of the 2004/05 season, Brown was effectively in charge and his leadership during such difficult times should not be forgotten.
He's always come across as a honest and likeable character, with the club's best interests at heart. if it wasn't for people like him there would be no BCFC and however we progress over the next few years, we should never forget how close we came to going bust.
BCFC has had some horrible times, but we're still all here supporting them and under stuart we will start to go forward. Mark Lawn is making a difference, but it's only thanks to the efforts of people like Brown that he can.
a true city gent
While the club were still in adminstration during the first few months of the 2004/05 season, Brown was effectively in charge and his leadership during such difficult times should not be forgotten.
He's always come across as a honest and likeable character, with the club's best interests at heart. if it wasn't for people like him there would be no BCFC and however we progress over the next few years, we should never forget how close we came to going bust.
BCFC has had some horrible times, but we're still all here supporting them and under stuart we will start to go forward. Mark Lawn is making a difference, but it's only thanks to the efforts of people like Brown that he can.
a true city gent
JM, Skipton says...
8:26am Tue 13 May 08
agreed! Jim Brown and the gang of five, by all accounts, saved City when they were heading to the wall that July morning. They got the broken communication going again and helped a deal be agreed.
While the club were still in adminstration during the first few months of the 2004/05 season, Brown was effectively in charge and his leadership during such difficult times should not be forgotten.
He's always come across as a honest and likeable character, with the club's best interests at heart. if it wasn't for people like him there would be no BCFC and however we progress over the next few years, we should never forget how close we came to going bust.
BCFC has had some horrible times, but we're still all here supporting them and under stuart we will start to go forward. Mark Lawn is making a difference, but it's only thanks to the efforts of people like Brown that he can.
a true city gent
While the club were still in adminstration during the first few months of the 2004/05 season, Brown was effectively in charge and his leadership during such difficult times should not be forgotten.
He's always come across as a honest and likeable character, with the club's best interests at heart. if it wasn't for people like him there would be no BCFC and however we progress over the next few years, we should never forget how close we came to going bust.
BCFC has had some horrible times, but we're still all here supporting them and under stuart we will start to go forward. Mark Lawn is making a difference, but it's only thanks to the efforts of people like Brown that he can.
a true city gent
tyker, midland road says...
8:28am Tue 13 May 08
wait for it coming: all the vitriole coming to this thread:sinking ships and all that from you know who!!
thank you for your efforts Mr Brown:very few would have stepped forward at the time you did.
To all those who constantly carp about the way the club is run and managed may I make a suggestion.
provide us please your full analysis of how you would manage this club, its limited financial input and its considerable expenses.
Factor into your calculations how, if you want to sack the manager and his team, the costs of that exercise and how those costs would be funded.
Please provide your fully costed analysis of how this club can be turned around say within 12 months and explain how you reach those conclusions.
Tell us please why your proposals are better than those already in place and how these are more likely to be successful. Please build in a contingency just in case your plans do not work out. For instance where would you raise the cash and from whom to ensure that your plan was financially viable.
If, exceptionally, you cannot do any of this and have it subjected to detailed scrutiny and analysis, then you must forego you right to be destructive in your postings.
If you are to be destructive about every small detail about the club then you should be able to put forward constructive and viable proposals for the immediate benefit and future well being of the football club most of us hold dear.
if not then go forth and multiply and do it quickly: please.
thank you for your efforts Mr Brown:very few would have stepped forward at the time you did.
To all those who constantly carp about the way the club is run and managed may I make a suggestion.
provide us please your full analysis of how you would manage this club, its limited financial input and its considerable expenses.
Factor into your calculations how, if you want to sack the manager and his team, the costs of that exercise and how those costs would be funded.
Please provide your fully costed analysis of how this club can be turned around say within 12 months and explain how you reach those conclusions.
Tell us please why your proposals are better than those already in place and how these are more likely to be successful. Please build in a contingency just in case your plans do not work out. For instance where would you raise the cash and from whom to ensure that your plan was financially viable.
If, exceptionally, you cannot do any of this and have it subjected to detailed scrutiny and analysis, then you must forego you right to be destructive in your postings.
If you are to be destructive about every small detail about the club then you should be able to put forward constructive and viable proposals for the immediate benefit and future well being of the football club most of us hold dear.
if not then go forth and multiply and do it quickly: please.
tyker, midland road says...
8:28am Tue 13 May 08
wait for it coming: all the vitriole coming to this thread:sinking ships and all that from you know who!!
thank you for your efforts Mr Brown:very few would have stepped forward at the time you did.
To all those who constantly carp about the way the club is run and managed may I make a suggestion.
provide us please your full analysis of how you would manage this club, its limited financial input and its considerable expenses.
Factor into your calculations how, if you want to sack the manager and his team, the costs of that exercise and how those costs would be funded.
Please provide your fully costed analysis of how this club can be turned around say within 12 months and explain how you reach those conclusions.
Tell us please why your proposals are better than those already in place and how these are more likely to be successful. Please build in a contingency just in case your plans do not work out. For instance where would you raise the cash and from whom to ensure that your plan was financially viable.
If, exceptionally, you cannot do any of this and have it subjected to detailed scrutiny and analysis, then you must forego you right to be destructive in your postings.
If you are to be destructive about every small detail about the club then you should be able to put forward constructive and viable proposals for the immediate benefit and future well being of the football club most of us hold dear.
if not then go forth and multiply and do it quickly: please.
thank you for your efforts Mr Brown:very few would have stepped forward at the time you did.
To all those who constantly carp about the way the club is run and managed may I make a suggestion.
provide us please your full analysis of how you would manage this club, its limited financial input and its considerable expenses.
Factor into your calculations how, if you want to sack the manager and his team, the costs of that exercise and how those costs would be funded.
Please provide your fully costed analysis of how this club can be turned around say within 12 months and explain how you reach those conclusions.
Tell us please why your proposals are better than those already in place and how these are more likely to be successful. Please build in a contingency just in case your plans do not work out. For instance where would you raise the cash and from whom to ensure that your plan was financially viable.
If, exceptionally, you cannot do any of this and have it subjected to detailed scrutiny and analysis, then you must forego you right to be destructive in your postings.
If you are to be destructive about every small detail about the club then you should be able to put forward constructive and viable proposals for the immediate benefit and future well being of the football club most of us hold dear.
if not then go forth and multiply and do it quickly: please.
tyker, midland road says...
8:28am Tue 13 May 08
wait for it coming: all the vitriole coming to this thread:sinking ships and all that from you know who!!
thank you for your efforts Mr Brown:very few would have stepped forward at the time you did.
To all those who constantly carp about the way the club is run and managed may I make a suggestion.
provide us please your full analysis of how you would manage this club, its limited financial input and its considerable expenses.
Factor into your calculations how, if you want to sack the manager and his team, the costs of that exercise and how those costs would be funded.
Please provide your fully costed analysis of how this club can be turned around say within 12 months and explain how you reach those conclusions.
Tell us please why your proposals are better than those already in place and how these are more likely to be successful. Please build in a contingency just in case your plans do not work out. For instance where would you raise the cash and from whom to ensure that your plan was financially viable.
If, exceptionally, you cannot do any of this and have it subjected to detailed scrutiny and analysis, then you must forego you right to be destructive in your postings.
If you are to be destructive about every small detail about the club then you should be able to put forward constructive and viable proposals for the immediate benefit and future well being of the football club most of us hold dear.
if not then go forth and multiply and do it quickly: please.
thank you for your efforts Mr Brown:very few would have stepped forward at the time you did.
To all those who constantly carp about the way the club is run and managed may I make a suggestion.
provide us please your full analysis of how you would manage this club, its limited financial input and its considerable expenses.
Factor into your calculations how, if you want to sack the manager and his team, the costs of that exercise and how those costs would be funded.
Please provide your fully costed analysis of how this club can be turned around say within 12 months and explain how you reach those conclusions.
Tell us please why your proposals are better than those already in place and how these are more likely to be successful. Please build in a contingency just in case your plans do not work out. For instance where would you raise the cash and from whom to ensure that your plan was financially viable.
If, exceptionally, you cannot do any of this and have it subjected to detailed scrutiny and analysis, then you must forego you right to be destructive in your postings.
If you are to be destructive about every small detail about the club then you should be able to put forward constructive and viable proposals for the immediate benefit and future well being of the football club most of us hold dear.
if not then go forth and multiply and do it quickly: please.
richard, cleckheaton says...
8:38am Tue 13 May 08
THANK YOU. Good luck in the future Jim your a good man, you can look back with pride.
richard, cleckheaton says...
8:38am Tue 13 May 08
THANK YOU. Good luck in the future Jim your a good man, you can look back with pride.
richard, cleckheaton says...
8:38am Tue 13 May 08
THANK YOU. Good luck in the future Jim your a good man, you can look back with pride.
utters, Skipton says...
8:40am Tue 13 May 08
There aren't many posts that make me laugh out loud, but you're spot on tyker.
Thank you Jim, your efforts over the past few years are well and truly appreciated. In saying that I'm sure I'm speaking on behalf of every true city fan the world over. Cheers!
Thank you Jim, your efforts over the past few years are well and truly appreciated. In saying that I'm sure I'm speaking on behalf of every true city fan the world over. Cheers!
utters, Skipton says...
8:40am Tue 13 May 08
There aren't many posts that make me laugh out loud, but you're spot on tyker.
Thank you Jim, your efforts over the past few years are well and truly appreciated. In saying that I'm sure I'm speaking on behalf of every true city fan the world over. Cheers!
Thank you Jim, your efforts over the past few years are well and truly appreciated. In saying that I'm sure I'm speaking on behalf of every true city fan the world over. Cheers!
utters, Skipton says...
8:40am Tue 13 May 08
There aren't many posts that make me laugh out loud, but you're spot on tyker.
Thank you Jim, your efforts over the past few years are well and truly appreciated. In saying that I'm sure I'm speaking on behalf of every true city fan the world over. Cheers!
Thank you Jim, your efforts over the past few years are well and truly appreciated. In saying that I'm sure I'm speaking on behalf of every true city fan the world over. Cheers!
The Russian, Brizzal says...
8:46am Tue 13 May 08
2008 and we are still in business. That's a massive achievement and if it takes another 50 years to see the glory days again so what. Hold on I'll probably miss them. A job well done Mr Brown more than can be said for your namesake at No10. Thank god we got the right BROWN.
The Russian, Brizzal says...
8:46am Tue 13 May 08
2008 and we are still in business. That's a massive achievement and if it takes another 50 years to see the glory days again so what. Hold on I'll probably miss them. A job well done Mr Brown more than can be said for your namesake at No10. Thank god we got the right BROWN.
The Russian, Brizzal says...
8:46am Tue 13 May 08
2008 and we are still in business. That's a massive achievement and if it takes another 50 years to see the glory days again so what. Hold on I'll probably miss them. A job well done Mr Brown more than can be said for your namesake at No10. Thank god we got the right BROWN.
Waynus, Bradford 6 says...
9:42am Tue 13 May 08
When Jim Brown first got involved in City, I was told it was a bleak day for us. That was coming from a couple of Halifax supporters who blamed Brown for the demise of their club. However, after seeing the amount of work he has put in, sometimes unpaid, he has been magnificent for City. My only question is this. Why has he taken until now to stand down? We have had the joint chairmen in place for about a year now, so why didn't he stand down before now? This is not a critisism of Brown or the board, I am just intrigued as to why he has chosen now to stand down.
One other point and I acknowledge I may be reading too much into this, is this; Does Brown and Lawn see eye to eye? Brown praises Rhodes for all he has done for the club and doesn't mention the work Lawn has since undertaken. Rhodes responded with kind words towards Brown for the assistance he has given him. No praise given from Lawn. Am I reading too much into this?
Thanks Jim for helping save our club. You are more than welcome at valley Parade any time.
One other point and I acknowledge I may be reading too much into this, is this; Does Brown and Lawn see eye to eye? Brown praises Rhodes for all he has done for the club and doesn't mention the work Lawn has since undertaken. Rhodes responded with kind words towards Brown for the assistance he has given him. No praise given from Lawn. Am I reading too much into this?
Thanks Jim for helping save our club. You are more than welcome at valley Parade any time.
Waynus, Bradford 6 says...
9:42am Tue 13 May 08
When Jim Brown first got involved in City, I was told it was a bleak day for us. That was coming from a couple of Halifax supporters who blamed Brown for the demise of their club. However, after seeing the amount of work he has put in, sometimes unpaid, he has been magnificent for City. My only question is this. Why has he taken until now to stand down? We have had the joint chairmen in place for about a year now, so why didn't he stand down before now? This is not a critisism of Brown or the board, I am just intrigued as to why he has chosen now to stand down.
One other point and I acknowledge I may be reading too much into this, is this; Does Brown and Lawn see eye to eye? Brown praises Rhodes for all he has done for the club and doesn't mention the work Lawn has since undertaken. Rhodes responded with kind words towards Brown for the assistance he has given him. No praise given from Lawn. Am I reading too much into this?
Thanks Jim for helping save our club. You are more than welcome at valley Parade any time.
One other point and I acknowledge I may be reading too much into this, is this; Does Brown and Lawn see eye to eye? Brown praises Rhodes for all he has done for the club and doesn't mention the work Lawn has since undertaken. Rhodes responded with kind words towards Brown for the assistance he has given him. No praise given from Lawn. Am I reading too much into this?
Thanks Jim for helping save our club. You are more than welcome at valley Parade any time.
Waynus, Bradford 6 says...
9:42am Tue 13 May 08
When Jim Brown first got involved in City, I was told it was a bleak day for us. That was coming from a couple of Halifax supporters who blamed Brown for the demise of their club. However, after seeing the amount of work he has put in, sometimes unpaid, he has been magnificent for City. My only question is this. Why has he taken until now to stand down? We have had the joint chairmen in place for about a year now, so why didn't he stand down before now? This is not a critisism of Brown or the board, I am just intrigued as to why he has chosen now to stand down.
One other point and I acknowledge I may be reading too much into this, is this; Does Brown and Lawn see eye to eye? Brown praises Rhodes for all he has done for the club and doesn't mention the work Lawn has since undertaken. Rhodes responded with kind words towards Brown for the assistance he has given him. No praise given from Lawn. Am I reading too much into this?
Thanks Jim for helping save our club. You are more than welcome at valley Parade any time.
One other point and I acknowledge I may be reading too much into this, is this; Does Brown and Lawn see eye to eye? Brown praises Rhodes for all he has done for the club and doesn't mention the work Lawn has since undertaken. Rhodes responded with kind words towards Brown for the assistance he has given him. No praise given from Lawn. Am I reading too much into this?
Thanks Jim for helping save our club. You are more than welcome at valley Parade any time.
Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
9:42am Tue 13 May 08
Jim is a very honouable and honest man, not like a lot of names on this site. Seems strange when they post a comment that they are not going to comment, perhaps shows their character. Jim a very honest man, perhaps the main reason for him departing. Understand barrier on order to control crowds at ticket office this Thursday.
Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
9:42am Tue 13 May 08
Jim is a very honouable and honest man, not like a lot of names on this site. Seems strange when they post a comment that they are not going to comment, perhaps shows their character. Jim a very honest man, perhaps the main reason for him departing. Understand barrier on order to control crowds at ticket office this Thursday.
Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
9:42am Tue 13 May 08
Jim is a very honouable and honest man, not like a lot of names on this site. Seems strange when they post a comment that they are not going to comment, perhaps shows their character. Jim a very honest man, perhaps the main reason for him departing. Understand barrier on order to control crowds at ticket office this Thursday.
cowboybob, Bratfud says...
9:57am Tue 13 May 08
I was thinking the same Waynus, but being the cynics we all are on here I think we may just be over reacting !
Anyway, thank you Mr Brown, job well done in very difficult circumstances !! Up the Bantams !!
Anyway, thank you Mr Brown, job well done in very difficult circumstances !! Up the Bantams !!
cowboybob, Bratfud says...
9:57am Tue 13 May 08
I was thinking the same Waynus, but being the cynics we all are on here I think we may just be over reacting !
Anyway, thank you Mr Brown, job well done in very difficult circumstances !! Up the Bantams !!
Anyway, thank you Mr Brown, job well done in very difficult circumstances !! Up the Bantams !!
cowboybob, Bratfud says...
9:57am Tue 13 May 08
I was thinking the same Waynus, but being the cynics we all are on here I think we may just be over reacting !
Anyway, thank you Mr Brown, job well done in very difficult circumstances !! Up the Bantams !!
Anyway, thank you Mr Brown, job well done in very difficult circumstances !! Up the Bantams !!
Respect For All, Keighley says...
10:21am Tue 13 May 08
We're back on our way to being the club we SHOULD be, thanks, at least in part, to jim and his faith in us. we're looking at least viable now...
our loss will definitely be someone elses gain. he's a fantastic chap that jim brown and no, i'm not his PR agent. just appreciative of an honest, hard-working bloke.
Good luck jim, and thanks.
our loss will definitely be someone elses gain. he's a fantastic chap that jim brown and no, i'm not his PR agent. just appreciative of an honest, hard-working bloke.
Good luck jim, and thanks.
Respect For All, Keighley says...
10:21am Tue 13 May 08
We're back on our way to being the club we SHOULD be, thanks, at least in part, to jim and his faith in us. we're looking at least viable now...
our loss will definitely be someone elses gain. he's a fantastic chap that jim brown and no, i'm not his PR agent. just appreciative of an honest, hard-working bloke.
Good luck jim, and thanks.
our loss will definitely be someone elses gain. he's a fantastic chap that jim brown and no, i'm not his PR agent. just appreciative of an honest, hard-working bloke.
Good luck jim, and thanks.
Respect For All, Keighley says...
10:21am Tue 13 May 08
We're back on our way to being the club we SHOULD be, thanks, at least in part, to jim and his faith in us. we're looking at least viable now...
our loss will definitely be someone elses gain. he's a fantastic chap that jim brown and no, i'm not his PR agent. just appreciative of an honest, hard-working bloke.
Good luck jim, and thanks.
our loss will definitely be someone elses gain. he's a fantastic chap that jim brown and no, i'm not his PR agent. just appreciative of an honest, hard-working bloke.
Good luck jim, and thanks.
tyker, midland road says...
10:30am Tue 13 May 08
Mr Sensible, Bingley
stated:
Jim is a very honouable and honest man, not like a lot of names
so on that basis your allegations of fraud at City must be put at the door of either JULIAN RHODES OR MARK LAWN. Would that be correct?
perhaps you would do us all a favour and go 50/50 eliminating the one wrong answer and leaving the correct answer.
Or are you alleging both are involved in fraudulent activity at City?
Perhaps, thereafter, you would tell us exactly what fraud has be committed, on whom and for how much.
stated:
Jim is a very honouable and honest man, not like a lot of names
so on that basis your allegations of fraud at City must be put at the door of either JULIAN RHODES OR MARK LAWN. Would that be correct?
perhaps you would do us all a favour and go 50/50 eliminating the one wrong answer and leaving the correct answer.
Or are you alleging both are involved in fraudulent activity at City?
Perhaps, thereafter, you would tell us exactly what fraud has be committed, on whom and for how much.
tyker, midland road says...
10:30am Tue 13 May 08
Mr Sensible, Bingley
stated:
Jim is a very honouable and honest man, not like a lot of names
so on that basis your allegations of fraud at City must be put at the door of either JULIAN RHODES OR MARK LAWN. Would that be correct?
perhaps you would do us all a favour and go 50/50 eliminating the one wrong answer and leaving the correct answer.
Or are you alleging both are involved in fraudulent activity at City?
Perhaps, thereafter, you would tell us exactly what fraud has be committed, on whom and for how much.
stated:
Jim is a very honouable and honest man, not like a lot of names
so on that basis your allegations of fraud at City must be put at the door of either JULIAN RHODES OR MARK LAWN. Would that be correct?
perhaps you would do us all a favour and go 50/50 eliminating the one wrong answer and leaving the correct answer.
Or are you alleging both are involved in fraudulent activity at City?
Perhaps, thereafter, you would tell us exactly what fraud has be committed, on whom and for how much.
tyker, midland road says...
10:30am Tue 13 May 08
Mr Sensible, Bingley
stated:
Jim is a very honouable and honest man, not like a lot of names
so on that basis your allegations of fraud at City must be put at the door of either JULIAN RHODES OR MARK LAWN. Would that be correct?
perhaps you would do us all a favour and go 50/50 eliminating the one wrong answer and leaving the correct answer.
Or are you alleging both are involved in fraudulent activity at City?
Perhaps, thereafter, you would tell us exactly what fraud has be committed, on whom and for how much.
stated:
Jim is a very honouable and honest man, not like a lot of names
so on that basis your allegations of fraud at City must be put at the door of either JULIAN RHODES OR MARK LAWN. Would that be correct?
perhaps you would do us all a favour and go 50/50 eliminating the one wrong answer and leaving the correct answer.
Or are you alleging both are involved in fraudulent activity at City?
Perhaps, thereafter, you would tell us exactly what fraud has be committed, on whom and for how much.
boparob, Bradford says...
10:46am Tue 13 May 08
tyker wrote:We agreed to ignore them. Come on. If we carry on biting, they'll carry on with drivel. DON'T TAKE THE BAIT.
Mr Sensible, Bingley stated: Jim is a very honouable and honest man, not like a lot of names so on that basis your allegations of fraud at City must be put at the door of either JULIAN RHODES OR MARK LAWN. Would that be correct? perhaps you would do us all a favour and go 50/50 eliminating the one wrong answer and leaving the correct answer. Or are you alleging both are involved in fraudulent activity at City? Perhaps, thereafter, you would tell us exactly what fraud has be committed, on whom and for how much.
LEAVE IT AND STICK TO THE POINTS IN THE ARTICLE OR OTHER POSTS.
<<IGNORE SENSELESS AND SHAUN>>
boparob, Bradford says...
10:46am Tue 13 May 08
tyker wrote:We agreed to ignore them. Come on. If we carry on biting, they'll carry on with drivel. DON'T TAKE THE BAIT.
Mr Sensible, Bingley stated: Jim is a very honouable and honest man, not like a lot of names so on that basis your allegations of fraud at City must be put at the door of either JULIAN RHODES OR MARK LAWN. Would that be correct? perhaps you would do us all a favour and go 50/50 eliminating the one wrong answer and leaving the correct answer. Or are you alleging both are involved in fraudulent activity at City? Perhaps, thereafter, you would tell us exactly what fraud has be committed, on whom and for how much.
LEAVE IT AND STICK TO THE POINTS IN THE ARTICLE OR OTHER POSTS.
<<IGNORE SENSELESS AND SHAUN>>
boparob, Bradford says...
10:46am Tue 13 May 08
tyker wrote:We agreed to ignore them. Come on. If we carry on biting, they'll carry on with drivel. DON'T TAKE THE BAIT.
Mr Sensible, Bingley stated: Jim is a very honouable and honest man, not like a lot of names so on that basis your allegations of fraud at City must be put at the door of either JULIAN RHODES OR MARK LAWN. Would that be correct? perhaps you would do us all a favour and go 50/50 eliminating the one wrong answer and leaving the correct answer. Or are you alleging both are involved in fraudulent activity at City? Perhaps, thereafter, you would tell us exactly what fraud has be committed, on whom and for how much.
LEAVE IT AND STICK TO THE POINTS IN THE ARTICLE OR OTHER POSTS.
<<IGNORE SENSELESS AND SHAUN>>
Philip Simpson, East Coast {Lincs} says...
10:57am Tue 13 May 08
We can only imagine the depth of problems Jim and co had to endure to steer us into relatively calmer waters.It must have taken a fair amount of courage and guts as well as committment to man the helm during that time.People such as Jim are like gold dust..Despite there being many successful businessmen in the area,FEW have shown intent when the Club needs help.Therefore,the very few who do,should be reveered by all fans,to whome they owe the very existance of Bradford City Football Club.Thanks Jim and good luck in the future.
Philip Simpson, East Coast {Lincs} says...
10:57am Tue 13 May 08
We can only imagine the depth of problems Jim and co had to endure to steer us into relatively calmer waters.It must have taken a fair amount of courage and guts as well as committment to man the helm during that time.People such as Jim are like gold dust..Despite there being many successful businessmen in the area,FEW have shown intent when the Club needs help.Therefore,the very few who do,should be reveered by all fans,to whome they owe the very existance of Bradford City Football Club.Thanks Jim and good luck in the future.
Philip Simpson, East Coast {Lincs} says...
10:57am Tue 13 May 08
We can only imagine the depth of problems Jim and co had to endure to steer us into relatively calmer waters.It must have taken a fair amount of courage and guts as well as committment to man the helm during that time.People such as Jim are like gold dust..Despite there being many successful businessmen in the area,FEW have shown intent when the Club needs help.Therefore,the very few who do,should be reveered by all fans,to whome they owe the very existance of Bradford City Football Club.Thanks Jim and good luck in the future.
paul_wakefield, Wakefield says...
10:58am Tue 13 May 08
Jim quotes that he believes people didn't realise how difficult a job Colin Todd had and he was doing a good job under the circumstances. Never a truer word spoken. Sacking him when we did in 2007 was the worst thing we could have done and ultimately sent us down.
paul_wakefield, Wakefield says...
10:58am Tue 13 May 08
Jim quotes that he believes people didn't realise how difficult a job Colin Todd had and he was doing a good job under the circumstances. Never a truer word spoken. Sacking him when we did in 2007 was the worst thing we could have done and ultimately sent us down.
paul_wakefield, Wakefield says...
10:58am Tue 13 May 08
Jim quotes that he believes people didn't realise how difficult a job Colin Todd had and he was doing a good job under the circumstances. Never a truer word spoken. Sacking him when we did in 2007 was the worst thing we could have done and ultimately sent us down.
Chris, Bradford says...
10:59am Tue 13 May 08
Sensible, I believe one of his companies has gone into liquidation same as Halifax did, so its probably best he moves on, good luck Jim Bob.
Chris, Bradford says...
10:59am Tue 13 May 08
Sensible, I believe one of his companies has gone into liquidation same as Halifax did, so its probably best he moves on, good luck Jim Bob.
Chris, Bradford says...
10:59am Tue 13 May 08
Sensible, I believe one of his companies has gone into liquidation same as Halifax did, so its probably best he moves on, good luck Jim Bob.
tyker, midland road says...
11:37am Tue 13 May 08
We agreed to ignore them. Come on. If we carry on biting, they'll carry on with drivel. DON'T TAKE THE BAIT.
I cannot remmber making that agreement but have sympathy with the idea.
It is interesting to note that he never commented on the fact that several of his postings stating that there was fraud being committed at VP were removed from the thread. It is a very distinct possibility that those withdrawn commenst are now in the hands of the club solicitor.
He will probably come back here with some inane and utterly senselesss comment and observation which has no relevance to anything in particular.
I cannot remmber making that agreement but have sympathy with the idea.
It is interesting to note that he never commented on the fact that several of his postings stating that there was fraud being committed at VP were removed from the thread. It is a very distinct possibility that those withdrawn commenst are now in the hands of the club solicitor.
He will probably come back here with some inane and utterly senselesss comment and observation which has no relevance to anything in particular.
tyker, midland road says...
11:37am Tue 13 May 08
We agreed to ignore them. Come on. If we carry on biting, they'll carry on with drivel. DON'T TAKE THE BAIT.
I cannot remmber making that agreement but have sympathy with the idea.
It is interesting to note that he never commented on the fact that several of his postings stating that there was fraud being committed at VP were removed from the thread. It is a very distinct possibility that those withdrawn commenst are now in the hands of the club solicitor.
He will probably come back here with some inane and utterly senselesss comment and observation which has no relevance to anything in particular.
I cannot remmber making that agreement but have sympathy with the idea.
It is interesting to note that he never commented on the fact that several of his postings stating that there was fraud being committed at VP were removed from the thread. It is a very distinct possibility that those withdrawn commenst are now in the hands of the club solicitor.
He will probably come back here with some inane and utterly senselesss comment and observation which has no relevance to anything in particular.
tyker, midland road says...
11:37am Tue 13 May 08
We agreed to ignore them. Come on. If we carry on biting, they'll carry on with drivel. DON'T TAKE THE BAIT.
I cannot remmber making that agreement but have sympathy with the idea.
It is interesting to note that he never commented on the fact that several of his postings stating that there was fraud being committed at VP were removed from the thread. It is a very distinct possibility that those withdrawn commenst are now in the hands of the club solicitor.
He will probably come back here with some inane and utterly senselesss comment and observation which has no relevance to anything in particular.
I cannot remmber making that agreement but have sympathy with the idea.
It is interesting to note that he never commented on the fact that several of his postings stating that there was fraud being committed at VP were removed from the thread. It is a very distinct possibility that those withdrawn commenst are now in the hands of the club solicitor.
He will probably come back here with some inane and utterly senselesss comment and observation which has no relevance to anything in particular.
Chris, Bradford says...
11:47am Tue 13 May 08
Okay Tyker agreed, I and everyone needs to ignore them and they will soon get bored, I hope. Anyhow I have nearly found out the name of the real person that logs on as you know who...
Chris, Bradford says...
11:47am Tue 13 May 08
Okay Tyker agreed, I and everyone needs to ignore them and they will soon get bored, I hope. Anyhow I have nearly found out the name of the real person that logs on as you know who...
Chris, Bradford says...
11:47am Tue 13 May 08
Okay Tyker agreed, I and everyone needs to ignore them and they will soon get bored, I hope. Anyhow I have nearly found out the name of the real person that logs on as you know who...
Waynus, Bradford 6 says...
11:52am Tue 13 May 08
cowboybob wrote:Jim Brown left the club today and not one word of praise from him to mark Lawn an vice versa. Now, I notice we have also allowed Jon Pepper to leave too. Why the cost cuttings?
I was thinking the same Waynus, but being the cynics we all are on here I think we may just be over reacting ! Anyway, thank you Mr Brown, job well done in very difficult circumstances !! Up the Bantams !!
If Pepper is under contract, surely he shouldn't be allowed to leave until a replacement has been hired. Is this not business sense?
I don't want to sound like one of the 'doom brothers', but am I reading too much into the this morning's news stories relating to Brown & Pepper?
Waynus, Bradford 6 says...
11:52am Tue 13 May 08
cowboybob wrote:Jim Brown left the club today and not one word of praise from him to mark Lawn an vice versa. Now, I notice we have also allowed Jon Pepper to leave too. Why the cost cuttings?
I was thinking the same Waynus, but being the cynics we all are on here I think we may just be over reacting ! Anyway, thank you Mr Brown, job well done in very difficult circumstances !! Up the Bantams !!
If Pepper is under contract, surely he shouldn't be allowed to leave until a replacement has been hired. Is this not business sense?
I don't want to sound like one of the 'doom brothers', but am I reading too much into the this morning's news stories relating to Brown & Pepper?
Waynus, Bradford 6 says...
11:52am Tue 13 May 08
cowboybob wrote:Jim Brown left the club today and not one word of praise from him to mark Lawn an vice versa. Now, I notice we have also allowed Jon Pepper to leave too. Why the cost cuttings?
I was thinking the same Waynus, but being the cynics we all are on here I think we may just be over reacting ! Anyway, thank you Mr Brown, job well done in very difficult circumstances !! Up the Bantams !!
If Pepper is under contract, surely he shouldn't be allowed to leave until a replacement has been hired. Is this not business sense?
I don't want to sound like one of the 'doom brothers', but am I reading too much into the this morning's news stories relating to Brown & Pepper?
Respect For All, Keighley says...
12:10pm Tue 13 May 08
Chris wrote:as MANY companies (inc football clubs!) have...there are as many reasons why a company can't continue trading as there are companies...
Sensible, I believe one of his companies has gone into liquidation same as Halifax did, so its probably best he moves on, good luck Jim Bob.
how many companies are still trading after 100 years after they started, hmm?...
**** happens. you deal with it, and then you start again.
but things don't always go the way they were PLANNED to go, and sometimes emergency measures are needed...but they're not always accepted, and can be vetoed before they even leave the boardroom.
there's no doubt the club is looking much healthier than it was a couple of years back. and hopefully will continue to get better.
as halifax look like they're preparing to do the old "close te old business down - open a new one up" scenario...i also wish them good luck with their endeavours to start their season .
maybe browns connection with halifax will resurface.
brown and richmond have LOTS in common with each other. they BOTH were used more as scapegoats than either of them are "blaming". they were BOTH (although chairmen), were still only single members of whole boards. and, despite their apparent "incompetence". i'd have them BOTH back at VP tomorrow.
honesty, hardwork and integrity (they both admitted their failings and fault and took the hit)
they both had a similar effect on the club. built it up from very precarious positions, but, maybe through lack of boardroom support, ended up having their efforts go totally house of cards like before their very eyes...
in short. this is what has kept us alive as long as it has.
nobody ever got anywhere in life not taking chances... they don't always make one popular, and don't always work. but hell, everything is a learning curve.
long live The Bantams & The Shaymen.
Respect For All, Keighley says...
12:10pm Tue 13 May 08
Chris wrote:as MANY companies (inc football clubs!) have...there are as many reasons why a company can't continue trading as there are companies...
Sensible, I believe one of his companies has gone into liquidation same as Halifax did, so its probably best he moves on, good luck Jim Bob.
how many companies are still trading after 100 years after they started, hmm?...
**** happens. you deal with it, and then you start again.
but things don't always go the way they were PLANNED to go, and sometimes emergency measures are needed...but they're not always accepted, and can be vetoed before they even leave the boardroom.
there's no doubt the club is looking much healthier than it was a couple of years back. and hopefully will continue to get better.
as halifax look like they're preparing to do the old "close te old business down - open a new one up" scenario...i also wish them good luck with their endeavours to start their season .
maybe browns connection with halifax will resurface.
brown and richmond have LOTS in common with each other. they BOTH were used more as scapegoats than either of them are "blaming". they were BOTH (although chairmen), were still only single members of whole boards. and, despite their apparent "incompetence". i'd have them BOTH back at VP tomorrow.
honesty, hardwork and integrity (they both admitted their failings and fault and took the hit)
they both had a similar effect on the club. built it up from very precarious positions, but, maybe through lack of boardroom support, ended up having their efforts go totally house of cards like before their very eyes...
in short. this is what has kept us alive as long as it has.
nobody ever got anywhere in life not taking chances... they don't always make one popular, and don't always work. but hell, everything is a learning curve.
long live The Bantams & The Shaymen.
Respect For All, Keighley says...
12:10pm Tue 13 May 08
Chris wrote:as MANY companies (inc football clubs!) have...there are as many reasons why a company can't continue trading as there are companies...
Sensible, I believe one of his companies has gone into liquidation same as Halifax did, so its probably best he moves on, good luck Jim Bob.
how many companies are still trading after 100 years after they started, hmm?...
**** happens. you deal with it, and then you start again.
but things don't always go the way they were PLANNED to go, and sometimes emergency measures are needed...but they're not always accepted, and can be vetoed before they even leave the boardroom.
there's no doubt the club is looking much healthier than it was a couple of years back. and hopefully will continue to get better.
as halifax look like they're preparing to do the old "close te old business down - open a new one up" scenario...i also wish them good luck with their endeavours to start their season .
maybe browns connection with halifax will resurface.
brown and richmond have LOTS in common with each other. they BOTH were used more as scapegoats than either of them are "blaming". they were BOTH (although chairmen), were still only single members of whole boards. and, despite their apparent "incompetence". i'd have them BOTH back at VP tomorrow.
honesty, hardwork and integrity (they both admitted their failings and fault and took the hit)
they both had a similar effect on the club. built it up from very precarious positions, but, maybe through lack of boardroom support, ended up having their efforts go totally house of cards like before their very eyes...
in short. this is what has kept us alive as long as it has.
nobody ever got anywhere in life not taking chances... they don't always make one popular, and don't always work. but hell, everything is a learning curve.
long live The Bantams & The Shaymen.
skippy, says...
12:57pm Tue 13 May 08
Waynus wrote:no you are not reading too much into it,theres been a big fall out at the club and brown and pepper were shown the door,all these nice compliments towards one and other are a smoke screen,brown wanted jacobs out and pepper put in his place lawn was having none of that hense their departure.brown is right about jacobs but im not so sure about pepper as number two anyway we can only hope someone will see sense and get rid of jacobs.
cowboybob wrote: I was thinking the same Waynus, but being the cynics we all are on here I think we may just be over reacting ! Anyway, thank you Mr Brown, job well done in very difficult circumstances !! Up the Bantams !!Jim Brown left the club today and not one word of praise from him to mark Lawn an vice versa. Now, I notice we have also allowed Jon Pepper to leave too. Why the cost cuttings? If Pepper is under contract, surely he shouldn't be allowed to leave until a replacement has been hired. Is this not business sense? I don't want to sound like one of the 'doom brothers', but am I reading too much into the this morning's news stories relating to Brown & Pepper?
skippy, says...
12:57pm Tue 13 May 08
Waynus wrote:no you are not reading too much into it,theres been a big fall out at the club and brown and pepper were shown the door,all these nice compliments towards one and other are a smoke screen,brown wanted jacobs out and pepper put in his place lawn was having none of that hense their departure.brown is right about jacobs but im not so sure about pepper as number two anyway we can only hope someone will see sense and get rid of jacobs.
cowboybob wrote: I was thinking the same Waynus, but being the cynics we all are on here I think we may just be over reacting ! Anyway, thank you Mr Brown, job well done in very difficult circumstances !! Up the Bantams !!Jim Brown left the club today and not one word of praise from him to mark Lawn an vice versa. Now, I notice we have also allowed Jon Pepper to leave too. Why the cost cuttings? If Pepper is under contract, surely he shouldn't be allowed to leave until a replacement has been hired. Is this not business sense? I don't want to sound like one of the 'doom brothers', but am I reading too much into the this morning's news stories relating to Brown & Pepper?
skippy, says...
12:57pm Tue 13 May 08
Waynus wrote:no you are not reading too much into it,theres been a big fall out at the club and brown and pepper were shown the door,all these nice compliments towards one and other are a smoke screen,brown wanted jacobs out and pepper put in his place lawn was having none of that hense their departure.brown is right about jacobs but im not so sure about pepper as number two anyway we can only hope someone will see sense and get rid of jacobs.
cowboybob wrote: I was thinking the same Waynus, but being the cynics we all are on here I think we may just be over reacting ! Anyway, thank you Mr Brown, job well done in very difficult circumstances !! Up the Bantams !!Jim Brown left the club today and not one word of praise from him to mark Lawn an vice versa. Now, I notice we have also allowed Jon Pepper to leave too. Why the cost cuttings? If Pepper is under contract, surely he shouldn't be allowed to leave until a replacement has been hired. Is this not business sense? I don't want to sound like one of the 'doom brothers', but am I reading too much into the this morning's news stories relating to Brown & Pepper?
Bantam Forever, Bingley says...
1:14pm Tue 13 May 08
It makes me laugh how many football club running supporters we have who all like to say their opinion.
Why is it when something happens its always got to be bad?! City fans need to get out of this negative mindset.
Does anyone actually know that it was this Jon Pepper who was getting the youth players to the standard that we need... no. Only Stuart and Jakes can answer that so just wish him well and move on.
Good Luck Jim.
CTID
Why is it when something happens its always got to be bad?! City fans need to get out of this negative mindset.
Does anyone actually know that it was this Jon Pepper who was getting the youth players to the standard that we need... no. Only Stuart and Jakes can answer that so just wish him well and move on.
Good Luck Jim.
CTID
Bantam Forever, Bingley says...
1:14pm Tue 13 May 08
It makes me laugh how many football club running supporters we have who all like to say their opinion.
Why is it when something happens its always got to be bad?! City fans need to get out of this negative mindset.
Does anyone actually know that it was this Jon Pepper who was getting the youth players to the standard that we need... no. Only Stuart and Jakes can answer that so just wish him well and move on.
Good Luck Jim.
CTID
Why is it when something happens its always got to be bad?! City fans need to get out of this negative mindset.
Does anyone actually know that it was this Jon Pepper who was getting the youth players to the standard that we need... no. Only Stuart and Jakes can answer that so just wish him well and move on.
Good Luck Jim.
CTID
Bantam Forever, Bingley says...
1:14pm Tue 13 May 08
It makes me laugh how many football club running supporters we have who all like to say their opinion.
Why is it when something happens its always got to be bad?! City fans need to get out of this negative mindset.
Does anyone actually know that it was this Jon Pepper who was getting the youth players to the standard that we need... no. Only Stuart and Jakes can answer that so just wish him well and move on.
Good Luck Jim.
CTID
Why is it when something happens its always got to be bad?! City fans need to get out of this negative mindset.
Does anyone actually know that it was this Jon Pepper who was getting the youth players to the standard that we need... no. Only Stuart and Jakes can answer that so just wish him well and move on.
Good Luck Jim.
CTID
cowboybob, Bratfud says...
1:16pm Tue 13 May 08
Now now, steady on Skippy ! I am just trying to get my head around letting John go when we seemed to be doing well with the junior set up thats all. As for Jim's departure, maybe its just a case of too many chief's and not enough Indians ?
If there has been a fall out between the powers that be and these people then so be it, lets just carry on and thank them both for their efforts.
If there has been a fall out between the powers that be and these people then so be it, lets just carry on and thank them both for their efforts.
cowboybob, Bratfud says...
1:16pm Tue 13 May 08
Now now, steady on Skippy ! I am just trying to get my head around letting John go when we seemed to be doing well with the junior set up thats all. As for Jim's departure, maybe its just a case of too many chief's and not enough Indians ?
If there has been a fall out between the powers that be and these people then so be it, lets just carry on and thank them both for their efforts.
If there has been a fall out between the powers that be and these people then so be it, lets just carry on and thank them both for their efforts.
cowboybob, Bratfud says...
1:16pm Tue 13 May 08
Now now, steady on Skippy ! I am just trying to get my head around letting John go when we seemed to be doing well with the junior set up thats all. As for Jim's departure, maybe its just a case of too many chief's and not enough Indians ?
If there has been a fall out between the powers that be and these people then so be it, lets just carry on and thank them both for their efforts.
If there has been a fall out between the powers that be and these people then so be it, lets just carry on and thank them both for their efforts.
Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
1:27pm Tue 13 May 08
Now lads does this prove I am sensible or daft. Bradford City are a great club with the greatest management and supporters than any other club in the football league. They are destined to become one of the top clubs in Europe within four years and te memory will live on for ever. Who is the sensible and who is the daft one. P.S. when City are in the Champions League Final I understand it will be buy one get two free as a reward for the supporters who followed them through the hard times.
Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
1:27pm Tue 13 May 08
Now lads does this prove I am sensible or daft. Bradford City are a great club with the greatest management and supporters than any other club in the football league. They are destined to become one of the top clubs in Europe within four years and te memory will live on for ever. Who is the sensible and who is the daft one. P.S. when City are in the Champions League Final I understand it will be buy one get two free as a reward for the supporters who followed them through the hard times.
Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
1:27pm Tue 13 May 08
Now lads does this prove I am sensible or daft. Bradford City are a great club with the greatest management and supporters than any other club in the football league. They are destined to become one of the top clubs in Europe within four years and te memory will live on for ever. Who is the sensible and who is the daft one. P.S. when City are in the Champions League Final I understand it will be buy one get two free as a reward for the supporters who followed them through the hard times.
emery, Wyke says...
2:01pm Tue 13 May 08
Mr Sensible you still talking?
emery, Wyke says...
2:01pm Tue 13 May 08
Mr Sensible you still talking?
emery, Wyke says...
2:01pm Tue 13 May 08
Mr Sensible you still talking?
tyker, midland road says...
2:12pm Tue 13 May 08
Mr Sensible you still talking?
he is but he cannot answer any questions can he?
so on that basis your allegations of fraud at City must be put at the door of either JULIAN RHODES OR MARK LAWN. Would that be correct?
perhaps you would do us all a favour and go 50/50 eliminating the one wrong answer and leaving the correct answer.
Or are you alleging both are involved in fraudulent activity at City?
Perhaps, thereafter, you would tell us exactly what fraud has be committed, on whom and for how much.
he is but he cannot answer any questions can he?
so on that basis your allegations of fraud at City must be put at the door of either JULIAN RHODES OR MARK LAWN. Would that be correct?
perhaps you would do us all a favour and go 50/50 eliminating the one wrong answer and leaving the correct answer.
Or are you alleging both are involved in fraudulent activity at City?
Perhaps, thereafter, you would tell us exactly what fraud has be committed, on whom and for how much.
tyker, midland road says...
2:12pm Tue 13 May 08
Mr Sensible you still talking?
he is but he cannot answer any questions can he?
so on that basis your allegations of fraud at City must be put at the door of either JULIAN RHODES OR MARK LAWN. Would that be correct?
perhaps you would do us all a favour and go 50/50 eliminating the one wrong answer and leaving the correct answer.
Or are you alleging both are involved in fraudulent activity at City?
Perhaps, thereafter, you would tell us exactly what fraud has be committed, on whom and for how much.
he is but he cannot answer any questions can he?
so on that basis your allegations of fraud at City must be put at the door of either JULIAN RHODES OR MARK LAWN. Would that be correct?
perhaps you would do us all a favour and go 50/50 eliminating the one wrong answer and leaving the correct answer.
Or are you alleging both are involved in fraudulent activity at City?
Perhaps, thereafter, you would tell us exactly what fraud has be committed, on whom and for how much.
tyker, midland road says...
2:12pm Tue 13 May 08
Mr Sensible you still talking?
he is but he cannot answer any questions can he?
so on that basis your allegations of fraud at City must be put at the door of either JULIAN RHODES OR MARK LAWN. Would that be correct?
perhaps you would do us all a favour and go 50/50 eliminating the one wrong answer and leaving the correct answer.
Or are you alleging both are involved in fraudulent activity at City?
Perhaps, thereafter, you would tell us exactly what fraud has be committed, on whom and for how much.
he is but he cannot answer any questions can he?
so on that basis your allegations of fraud at City must be put at the door of either JULIAN RHODES OR MARK LAWN. Would that be correct?
perhaps you would do us all a favour and go 50/50 eliminating the one wrong answer and leaving the correct answer.
Or are you alleging both are involved in fraudulent activity at City?
Perhaps, thereafter, you would tell us exactly what fraud has be committed, on whom and for how much.
albion, west riding says...
2:25pm Tue 13 May 08
tyker wrote:50/50? Maybe he is trying to phone a friend (could be a long wait).
Mr Sensible you still talking? he is but he cannot answer any questions can he? so on that basis your allegations of fraud at City must be put at the door of either JULIAN RHODES OR MARK LAWN. Would that be correct? perhaps you would do us all a favour and go 50/50 eliminating the one wrong answer and leaving the correct answer. Or are you alleging both are involved in fraudulent activity at City? Perhaps, thereafter, you would tell us exactly what fraud has be committed, on whom and for how much.
albion, west riding says...
2:25pm Tue 13 May 08
tyker wrote:50/50? Maybe he is trying to phone a friend (could be a long wait).
Mr Sensible you still talking? he is but he cannot answer any questions can he? so on that basis your allegations of fraud at City must be put at the door of either JULIAN RHODES OR MARK LAWN. Would that be correct? perhaps you would do us all a favour and go 50/50 eliminating the one wrong answer and leaving the correct answer. Or are you alleging both are involved in fraudulent activity at City? Perhaps, thereafter, you would tell us exactly what fraud has be committed, on whom and for how much.
albion, west riding says...
2:25pm Tue 13 May 08
tyker wrote:50/50? Maybe he is trying to phone a friend (could be a long wait).
Mr Sensible you still talking? he is but he cannot answer any questions can he? so on that basis your allegations of fraud at City must be put at the door of either JULIAN RHODES OR MARK LAWN. Would that be correct? perhaps you would do us all a favour and go 50/50 eliminating the one wrong answer and leaving the correct answer. Or are you alleging both are involved in fraudulent activity at City? Perhaps, thereafter, you would tell us exactly what fraud has be committed, on whom and for how much.
tyker, midland road says...
2:36pm Tue 13 May 08
that is why he did not have that option!!
fully its all gone quiet since his commenst on a previous thread were pulled. To remind people he said that there was fraudulent activity at City.
fully its all gone quiet since his commenst on a previous thread were pulled. To remind people he said that there was fraudulent activity at City.
tyker, midland road says...
2:36pm Tue 13 May 08
that is why he did not have that option!!
fully its all gone quiet since his commenst on a previous thread were pulled. To remind people he said that there was fraudulent activity at City.
fully its all gone quiet since his commenst on a previous thread were pulled. To remind people he said that there was fraudulent activity at City.
tyker, midland road says...
2:36pm Tue 13 May 08
that is why he did not have that option!!
fully its all gone quiet since his commenst on a previous thread were pulled. To remind people he said that there was fraudulent activity at City.
fully its all gone quiet since his commenst on a previous thread were pulled. To remind people he said that there was fraudulent activity at City.
Gentleman Jim, Yooohooo over here says...
2:46pm Tue 13 May 08
Waynus wrote:Are our youth team doing well? How many have come through in the time that Pepper has been handling the job? Not one keeper of worth, no decent midfielders that have come through and made the first team regularly, certainly no strikers of promise, and if we actually did have any of these they are allowed to leave at age 15/16 to bigger clubs where they will get lost amongst the many. I personally have a dim view of our youth policy at present, maybe this is the start of a change. Just because we have taken a step to change things doesn't always mean for the negative, little acorns and all that. And as for Jim Brown, he obviously did many things right and for that he has to be thanked, but as he stated himself, with joint chairmen his position is a bit unnecessary.
cowboybob wrote:Jim Brown left the club today and not one word of praise from him to mark Lawn an vice versa. Now, I notice we have also allowed Jon Pepper to leave too. Why the cost cuttings?
I was thinking the same Waynus, but being the cynics we all are on here I think we may just be over reacting ! Anyway, thank you Mr Brown, job well done in very difficult circumstances !! Up the Bantams !!
If Pepper is under contract, surely he shouldn't be allowed to leave until a replacement has been hired. Is this not business sense?
I don't want to sound like one of the 'doom brothers', but am I reading too much into the this morning's news stories relating to Brown & Pepper?
Gentleman Jim, Yooohooo over here says...
2:46pm Tue 13 May 08
Waynus wrote:Are our youth team doing well? How many have come through in the time that Pepper has been handling the job? Not one keeper of worth, no decent midfielders that have come through and made the first team regularly, certainly no strikers of promise, and if we actually did have any of these they are allowed to leave at age 15/16 to bigger clubs where they will get lost amongst the many. I personally have a dim view of our youth policy at present, maybe this is the start of a change. Just because we have taken a step to change things doesn't always mean for the negative, little acorns and all that. And as for Jim Brown, he obviously did many things right and for that he has to be thanked, but as he stated himself, with joint chairmen his position is a bit unnecessary.
cowboybob wrote:Jim Brown left the club today and not one word of praise from him to mark Lawn an vice versa. Now, I notice we have also allowed Jon Pepper to leave too. Why the cost cuttings?
I was thinking the same Waynus, but being the cynics we all are on here I think we may just be over reacting ! Anyway, thank you Mr Brown, job well done in very difficult circumstances !! Up the Bantams !!
If Pepper is under contract, surely he shouldn't be allowed to leave until a replacement has been hired. Is this not business sense?
I don't want to sound like one of the 'doom brothers', but am I reading too much into the this morning's news stories relating to Brown & Pepper?
Gentleman Jim, Yooohooo over here says...
2:46pm Tue 13 May 08
Waynus wrote:Are our youth team doing well? How many have come through in the time that Pepper has been handling the job? Not one keeper of worth, no decent midfielders that have come through and made the first team regularly, certainly no strikers of promise, and if we actually did have any of these they are allowed to leave at age 15/16 to bigger clubs where they will get lost amongst the many. I personally have a dim view of our youth policy at present, maybe this is the start of a change. Just because we have taken a step to change things doesn't always mean for the negative, little acorns and all that. And as for Jim Brown, he obviously did many things right and for that he has to be thanked, but as he stated himself, with joint chairmen his position is a bit unnecessary.
cowboybob wrote:Jim Brown left the club today and not one word of praise from him to mark Lawn an vice versa. Now, I notice we have also allowed Jon Pepper to leave too. Why the cost cuttings?
I was thinking the same Waynus, but being the cynics we all are on here I think we may just be over reacting ! Anyway, thank you Mr Brown, job well done in very difficult circumstances !! Up the Bantams !!
If Pepper is under contract, surely he shouldn't be allowed to leave until a replacement has been hired. Is this not business sense?
I don't want to sound like one of the 'doom brothers', but am I reading too much into the this morning's news stories relating to Brown & Pepper?
Gentleman Jim, Yooohooo over here says...
2:50pm Tue 13 May 08
tyker wrote:I missed that, have you got any quotes tyker? It might be worth showing them to our legal team here, unless of course City's advisors are already on it, or the T&A has pulled slanderous,libelous comments. No problem if not, I'm sure I'll hear it from someone.
that is why he did not have that option!!
fully its all gone quiet since his commenst on a previous thread were pulled. To remind people he said that there was fraudulent activity at City.
Gentleman Jim, Yooohooo over here says...
2:50pm Tue 13 May 08
tyker wrote:I missed that, have you got any quotes tyker? It might be worth showing them to our legal team here, unless of course City's advisors are already on it, or the T&A has pulled slanderous,libelous comments. No problem if not, I'm sure I'll hear it from someone.
that is why he did not have that option!!
fully its all gone quiet since his commenst on a previous thread were pulled. To remind people he said that there was fraudulent activity at City.
Gentleman Jim, Yooohooo over here says...
2:50pm Tue 13 May 08
tyker wrote:I missed that, have you got any quotes tyker? It might be worth showing them to our legal team here, unless of course City's advisors are already on it, or the T&A has pulled slanderous,libelous comments. No problem if not, I'm sure I'll hear it from someone.
that is why he did not have that option!!
fully its all gone quiet since his commenst on a previous thread were pulled. To remind people he said that there was fraudulent activity at City.
tyker, midland road says...
3:20pm Tue 13 May 08
Sorry cannot locate it at present but is certainly within the last 4 or 5 weeks--perhaps the whole thread has been pulled but there will be a record of it.
tyker, midland road says...
3:20pm Tue 13 May 08
Sorry cannot locate it at present but is certainly within the last 4 or 5 weeks--perhaps the whole thread has been pulled but there will be a record of it.
tyker, midland road says...
3:20pm Tue 13 May 08
Sorry cannot locate it at present but is certainly within the last 4 or 5 weeks--perhaps the whole thread has been pulled but there will be a record of it.
Banksy, Bingley says...
4:02pm Tue 13 May 08
Gentleman Jim wrote:What legal team you thinking of showing them to? Not sure anybody in legal world will consider anything for free!
tyker wrote: that is why he did not have that option!! fully its all gone quiet since his commenst on a previous thread were pulled. To remind people he said that there was fraudulent activity at City.I missed that, have you got any quotes tyker? It might be worth showing them to our legal team here, unless of course City's advisors are already on it, or the T&A has pulled slanderous,libelous comments. No problem if not, I'm sure I'll hear it from someone.
Banksy, Bingley says...
4:02pm Tue 13 May 08
Gentleman Jim wrote:What legal team you thinking of showing them to? Not sure anybody in legal world will consider anything for free!
tyker wrote: that is why he did not have that option!! fully its all gone quiet since his commenst on a previous thread were pulled. To remind people he said that there was fraudulent activity at City.I missed that, have you got any quotes tyker? It might be worth showing them to our legal team here, unless of course City's advisors are already on it, or the T&A has pulled slanderous,libelous comments. No problem if not, I'm sure I'll hear it from someone.
Banksy, Bingley says...
4:02pm Tue 13 May 08
Gentleman Jim wrote:What legal team you thinking of showing them to? Not sure anybody in legal world will consider anything for free!
tyker wrote: that is why he did not have that option!! fully its all gone quiet since his commenst on a previous thread were pulled. To remind people he said that there was fraudulent activity at City.I missed that, have you got any quotes tyker? It might be worth showing them to our legal team here, unless of course City's advisors are already on it, or the T&A has pulled slanderous,libelous comments. No problem if not, I'm sure I'll hear it from someone.
Devilsadvokat, Manningham says...
4:16pm Tue 13 May 08
he should have taken mccall with him, next year this time city will still be in div 2
Devilsadvokat, Manningham says...
4:16pm Tue 13 May 08
he should have taken mccall with him, next year this time city will still be in div 2
Devilsadvokat, Manningham says...
4:16pm Tue 13 May 08
he should have taken mccall with him, next year this time city will still be in div 2
tyker, midland road says...
4:21pm Tue 13 May 08
What legal team you thinking of showing them to? Not sure anybody in legal world will consider anything for free!
was free mentioned in the post?
it is not relevant to this thread but there are solicitors on the panel for Citizens's Advice who freely give 30 minutes of their time!
Might it not be that someone who is a solicitor is a City supporter who may just give his time and expertise for free in such an instance.
If someone wants to go down that route let them but it may just be that a firm of solicitors engaged by the club are looking at it anyway.
was free mentioned in the post?
it is not relevant to this thread but there are solicitors on the panel for Citizens's Advice who freely give 30 minutes of their time!
Might it not be that someone who is a solicitor is a City supporter who may just give his time and expertise for free in such an instance.
If someone wants to go down that route let them but it may just be that a firm of solicitors engaged by the club are looking at it anyway.
tyker, midland road says...
4:21pm Tue 13 May 08
What legal team you thinking of showing them to? Not sure anybody in legal world will consider anything for free!
was free mentioned in the post?
it is not relevant to this thread but there are solicitors on the panel for Citizens's Advice who freely give 30 minutes of their time!
Might it not be that someone who is a solicitor is a City supporter who may just give his time and expertise for free in such an instance.
If someone wants to go down that route let them but it may just be that a firm of solicitors engaged by the club are looking at it anyway.
was free mentioned in the post?
it is not relevant to this thread but there are solicitors on the panel for Citizens's Advice who freely give 30 minutes of their time!
Might it not be that someone who is a solicitor is a City supporter who may just give his time and expertise for free in such an instance.
If someone wants to go down that route let them but it may just be that a firm of solicitors engaged by the club are looking at it anyway.
tyker, midland road says...
4:21pm Tue 13 May 08
What legal team you thinking of showing them to? Not sure anybody in legal world will consider anything for free!
was free mentioned in the post?
it is not relevant to this thread but there are solicitors on the panel for Citizens's Advice who freely give 30 minutes of their time!
Might it not be that someone who is a solicitor is a City supporter who may just give his time and expertise for free in such an instance.
If someone wants to go down that route let them but it may just be that a firm of solicitors engaged by the club are looking at it anyway.
was free mentioned in the post?
it is not relevant to this thread but there are solicitors on the panel for Citizens's Advice who freely give 30 minutes of their time!
Might it not be that someone who is a solicitor is a City supporter who may just give his time and expertise for free in such an instance.
If someone wants to go down that route let them but it may just be that a firm of solicitors engaged by the club are looking at it anyway.
Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
5:06pm Tue 13 May 08
Tyker, Just read what I say and do not change things around to suite yourself. Who has the best legal brain me or you although maybe I have met you - IN COURT. Gentleman Jim seems a little more SENSIBLE in his comments. Perhaps tyker could look at his own comments and language. I only came onto the site recently because of the lack of variation of the comments. I think I have done very well. Can either of you answer this question, If tomorrow is Saturday and Yeasterday was Thursday, What day is it today.
Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
5:06pm Tue 13 May 08
Tyker, Just read what I say and do not change things around to suite yourself. Who has the best legal brain me or you although maybe I have met you - IN COURT. Gentleman Jim seems a little more SENSIBLE in his comments. Perhaps tyker could look at his own comments and language. I only came onto the site recently because of the lack of variation of the comments. I think I have done very well. Can either of you answer this question, If tomorrow is Saturday and Yeasterday was Thursday, What day is it today.
Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
5:06pm Tue 13 May 08
Tyker, Just read what I say and do not change things around to suite yourself. Who has the best legal brain me or you although maybe I have met you - IN COURT. Gentleman Jim seems a little more SENSIBLE in his comments. Perhaps tyker could look at his own comments and language. I only came onto the site recently because of the lack of variation of the comments. I think I have done very well. Can either of you answer this question, If tomorrow is Saturday and Yeasterday was Thursday, What day is it today.
JM, Skipton says...
5:17pm Tue 13 May 08
Mr Sensible wrote:You know what, this post actually sums up why you just donÂ’t get it with BCFC and why youÂ’re wind up comments are so pathetic.
Now lads does this prove I am sensible or daft. Bradford City are a great club with the greatest management and supporters than any other club in the football league. They are destined to become one of the top clubs in Europe within four years and te memory will live on for ever. Who is the sensible and who is the daft one. P.S. when City are in the Champions League Final I understand it will be buy one get two free as a reward for the supporters who followed them through the hard times.
No City supporter expects City to in the Champions League Final in any of our lifetimes and do you know what? We donÂ’t care.
We donÂ’t support BCFC because we want them to rise back to the Premiership, become a force and have a massive fan base around the world. We support them because they are our club and we love them. Love them for what they are, love them because of what theyÂ’ve given us and love them because they are ours.
I feel sorry for you, as a Man U supporter, you might be able to enjoy winning the Premiership and getting to the Champions League Final, but will you be in Moscow? Do you get to ever see them? Does your support ever make a difference to them?
You can sneer at this club all you want for offering stupid season ticket deals and coming across desperate, but you donÂ’t get this club what it means to us and why you come across as so stupid. BCFC will probably never be in the Premier League again, but weÂ’ll still support them for the rest of our lives and have a bloody amazing time doing so.
JM, Skipton says...
5:17pm Tue 13 May 08
Mr Sensible wrote:You know what, this post actually sums up why you just donÂ’t get it with BCFC and why youÂ’re wind up comments are so pathetic.
Now lads does this prove I am sensible or daft. Bradford City are a great club with the greatest management and supporters than any other club in the football league. They are destined to become one of the top clubs in Europe within four years and te memory will live on for ever. Who is the sensible and who is the daft one. P.S. when City are in the Champions League Final I understand it will be buy one get two free as a reward for the supporters who followed them through the hard times.
No City supporter expects City to in the Champions League Final in any of our lifetimes and do you know what? We donÂ’t care.
We donÂ’t support BCFC because we want them to rise back to the Premiership, become a force and have a massive fan base around the world. We support them because they are our club and we love them. Love them for what they are, love them because of what theyÂ’ve given us and love them because they are ours.
I feel sorry for you, as a Man U supporter, you might be able to enjoy winning the Premiership and getting to the Champions League Final, but will you be in Moscow? Do you get to ever see them? Does your support ever make a difference to them?
You can sneer at this club all you want for offering stupid season ticket deals and coming across desperate, but you donÂ’t get this club what it means to us and why you come across as so stupid. BCFC will probably never be in the Premier League again, but weÂ’ll still support them for the rest of our lives and have a bloody amazing time doing so.
JM, Skipton says...
5:17pm Tue 13 May 08
Mr Sensible wrote:You know what, this post actually sums up why you just donÂ’t get it with BCFC and why youÂ’re wind up comments are so pathetic.
Now lads does this prove I am sensible or daft. Bradford City are a great club with the greatest management and supporters than any other club in the football league. They are destined to become one of the top clubs in Europe within four years and te memory will live on for ever. Who is the sensible and who is the daft one. P.S. when City are in the Champions League Final I understand it will be buy one get two free as a reward for the supporters who followed them through the hard times.
No City supporter expects City to in the Champions League Final in any of our lifetimes and do you know what? We donÂ’t care.
We donÂ’t support BCFC because we want them to rise back to the Premiership, become a force and have a massive fan base around the world. We support them because they are our club and we love them. Love them for what they are, love them because of what theyÂ’ve given us and love them because they are ours.
I feel sorry for you, as a Man U supporter, you might be able to enjoy winning the Premiership and getting to the Champions League Final, but will you be in Moscow? Do you get to ever see them? Does your support ever make a difference to them?
You can sneer at this club all you want for offering stupid season ticket deals and coming across desperate, but you donÂ’t get this club what it means to us and why you come across as so stupid. BCFC will probably never be in the Premier League again, but weÂ’ll still support them for the rest of our lives and have a bloody amazing time doing so.
richard, cleckheaton says...
5:19pm Tue 13 May 08
Mr Sensible wrote:Did you enjoy the match at Elland Road last night,shame about your team losing.
Now lads does this prove I am sensible or daft. Bradford City are a great club with the greatest management and supporters than any other club in the football league. They are destined to become one of the top clubs in Europe within four years and te memory will live on for ever. Who is the sensible and who is the daft one. P.S. when City are in the Champions League Final I understand it will be buy one get two free as a reward for the supporters who followed them through the hard times.
richard, cleckheaton says...
5:19pm Tue 13 May 08
Mr Sensible wrote:Did you enjoy the match at Elland Road last night,shame about your team losing.
Now lads does this prove I am sensible or daft. Bradford City are a great club with the greatest management and supporters than any other club in the football league. They are destined to become one of the top clubs in Europe within four years and te memory will live on for ever. Who is the sensible and who is the daft one. P.S. when City are in the Champions League Final I understand it will be buy one get two free as a reward for the supporters who followed them through the hard times.
richard, cleckheaton says...
5:19pm Tue 13 May 08
Mr Sensible wrote:Did you enjoy the match at Elland Road last night,shame about your team losing.
Now lads does this prove I am sensible or daft. Bradford City are a great club with the greatest management and supporters than any other club in the football league. They are destined to become one of the top clubs in Europe within four years and te memory will live on for ever. Who is the sensible and who is the daft one. P.S. when City are in the Champions League Final I understand it will be buy one get two free as a reward for the supporters who followed them through the hard times.
tyker, midland road says...
5:20pm Tue 13 May 08
suite
is that what they sell at DFS then.
its not for me to pursue any action against you if your comments are considered to be ligatious.
is that what they sell at DFS then.
its not for me to pursue any action against you if your comments are considered to be ligatious.
tyker, midland road says...
5:20pm Tue 13 May 08
suite
is that what they sell at DFS then.
its not for me to pursue any action against you if your comments are considered to be ligatious.
is that what they sell at DFS then.
its not for me to pursue any action against you if your comments are considered to be ligatious.
tyker, midland road says...
5:20pm Tue 13 May 08
suite
is that what they sell at DFS then.
its not for me to pursue any action against you if your comments are considered to be ligatious.
is that what they sell at DFS then.
its not for me to pursue any action against you if your comments are considered to be ligatious.
JM, Skipton says...
5:21pm Tue 13 May 08
skippy wrote:What a load of garbage!
Waynus wrote:no you are not reading too much into it,theres been a big fall out at the club and brown and pepper were shown the door,all these nice compliments towards one and other are a smoke screen,brown wanted jacobs out and pepper put in his place lawn was having none of that hense their departure.brown is right about jacobs but im not so sure about pepper as number two anyway we can only hope someone will see sense and get rid of jacobs.cowboybob wrote: I was thinking the same Waynus, but being the cynics we all are on here I think we may just be over reacting ! Anyway, thank you Mr Brown, job well done in very difficult circumstances !! Up the Bantams !!Jim Brown left the club today and not one word of praise from him to mark Lawn an vice versa. Now, I notice we have also allowed Jon Pepper to leave too. Why the cost cuttings? If Pepper is under contract, surely he shouldn't be allowed to leave until a replacement has been hired. Is this not business sense? I don't want to sound like one of the 'doom brothers', but am I reading too much into the this morning's news stories relating to Brown & Pepper?
Two weeks ago you were challenged by myself and another fan (sorry forget who) to explain why you think Wayne Jacobs is so rubbish and why you have this personal hatred against him.
And you still havenÂ’t done so!
DonÂ’t start coming on here with your stupid, offensive sneering until you give us a proper reason for doing so. If you believe your own bulls**t you should have no problem doing so.
JM, Skipton says...
5:21pm Tue 13 May 08
skippy wrote:What a load of garbage!
Waynus wrote:no you are not reading too much into it,theres been a big fall out at the club and brown and pepper were shown the door,all these nice compliments towards one and other are a smoke screen,brown wanted jacobs out and pepper put in his place lawn was having none of that hense their departure.brown is right about jacobs but im not so sure about pepper as number two anyway we can only hope someone will see sense and get rid of jacobs.cowboybob wrote: I was thinking the same Waynus, but being the cynics we all are on here I think we may just be over reacting ! Anyway, thank you Mr Brown, job well done in very difficult circumstances !! Up the Bantams !!Jim Brown left the club today and not one word of praise from him to mark Lawn an vice versa. Now, I notice we have also allowed Jon Pepper to leave too. Why the cost cuttings? If Pepper is under contract, surely he shouldn't be allowed to leave until a replacement has been hired. Is this not business sense? I don't want to sound like one of the 'doom brothers', but am I reading too much into the this morning's news stories relating to Brown & Pepper?
Two weeks ago you were challenged by myself and another fan (sorry forget who) to explain why you think Wayne Jacobs is so rubbish and why you have this personal hatred against him.
And you still havenÂ’t done so!
DonÂ’t start coming on here with your stupid, offensive sneering until you give us a proper reason for doing so. If you believe your own bulls**t you should have no problem doing so.
JM, Skipton says...
5:21pm Tue 13 May 08
skippy wrote:What a load of garbage!
Waynus wrote:no you are not reading too much into it,theres been a big fall out at the club and brown and pepper were shown the door,all these nice compliments towards one and other are a smoke screen,brown wanted jacobs out and pepper put in his place lawn was having none of that hense their departure.brown is right about jacobs but im not so sure about pepper as number two anyway we can only hope someone will see sense and get rid of jacobs.cowboybob wrote: I was thinking the same Waynus, but being the cynics we all are on here I think we may just be over reacting ! Anyway, thank you Mr Brown, job well done in very difficult circumstances !! Up the Bantams !!Jim Brown left the club today and not one word of praise from him to mark Lawn an vice versa. Now, I notice we have also allowed Jon Pepper to leave too. Why the cost cuttings? If Pepper is under contract, surely he shouldn't be allowed to leave until a replacement has been hired. Is this not business sense? I don't want to sound like one of the 'doom brothers', but am I reading too much into the this morning's news stories relating to Brown & Pepper?
Two weeks ago you were challenged by myself and another fan (sorry forget who) to explain why you think Wayne Jacobs is so rubbish and why you have this personal hatred against him.
And you still havenÂ’t done so!
DonÂ’t start coming on here with your stupid, offensive sneering until you give us a proper reason for doing so. If you believe your own bulls**t you should have no problem doing so.
Banksy, Bingley says...
5:25pm Tue 13 May 08
tyker wrote:Tyker - it was just a lighthearted comment poking fun at the legal profession which I felt able to make being a member of the same!
What legal team you thinking of showing them to? Not sure anybody in legal world will consider anything for free! was free mentioned in the post? it is not relevant to this thread but there are solicitors on the panel for Citizens's Advice who freely give 30 minutes of their time! Might it not be that someone who is a solicitor is a City supporter who may just give his time and expertise for free in such an instance. If someone wants to go down that route let them but it may just be that a firm of solicitors engaged by the club are looking at it anyway.
Banksy, Bingley says...
5:25pm Tue 13 May 08
tyker wrote:Tyker - it was just a lighthearted comment poking fun at the legal profession which I felt able to make being a member of the same!
What legal team you thinking of showing them to? Not sure anybody in legal world will consider anything for free! was free mentioned in the post? it is not relevant to this thread but there are solicitors on the panel for Citizens's Advice who freely give 30 minutes of their time! Might it not be that someone who is a solicitor is a City supporter who may just give his time and expertise for free in such an instance. If someone wants to go down that route let them but it may just be that a firm of solicitors engaged by the club are looking at it anyway.
Banksy, Bingley says...
5:25pm Tue 13 May 08
tyker wrote:Tyker - it was just a lighthearted comment poking fun at the legal profession which I felt able to make being a member of the same!
What legal team you thinking of showing them to? Not sure anybody in legal world will consider anything for free! was free mentioned in the post? it is not relevant to this thread but there are solicitors on the panel for Citizens's Advice who freely give 30 minutes of their time! Might it not be that someone who is a solicitor is a City supporter who may just give his time and expertise for free in such an instance. If someone wants to go down that route let them but it may just be that a firm of solicitors engaged by the club are looking at it anyway.
skippy, says...
6:15pm Tue 13 May 08
JM wrote:check the darren moore story.
skippy wrote:What a load of garbage! Two weeks ago you were challenged by myself and another fan (sorry forget who) to explain why you think Wayne Jacobs is so rubbish and why you have this personal hatred against him. And you still havenÂ’t done so! DonÂ’t start coming on here with your stupid, offensive sneering until you give us a proper reason for doing so. If you believe your own bulls**t you should have no problem doing so.Waynus wrote:no you are not reading too much into it,theres been a big fall out at the club and brown and pepper were shown the door,all these nice compliments towards one and other are a smoke screen,brown wanted jacobs out and pepper put in his place lawn was having none of that hense their departure.brown is right about jacobs but im not so sure about pepper as number two anyway we can only hope someone will see sense and get rid of jacobs.cowboybob wrote: I was thinking the same Waynus, but being the cynics we all are on here I think we may just be over reacting ! Anyway, thank you Mr Brown, job well done in very difficult circumstances !! Up the Bantams !!Jim Brown left the club today and not one word of praise from him to mark Lawn an vice versa. Now, I notice we have also allowed Jon Pepper to leave too. Why the cost cuttings? If Pepper is under contract, surely he shouldn't be allowed to leave until a replacement has been hired. Is this not business sense? I don't want to sound like one of the 'doom brothers', but am I reading too much into the this morning's news stories relating to Brown &amp; Pepper?
skippy, says...
6:15pm Tue 13 May 08
JM wrote:check the darren moore story.
skippy wrote:What a load of garbage! Two weeks ago you were challenged by myself and another fan (sorry forget who) to explain why you think Wayne Jacobs is so rubbish and why you have this personal hatred against him. And you still havenÂ’t done so! DonÂ’t start coming on here with your stupid, offensive sneering until you give us a proper reason for doing so. If you believe your own bulls**t you should have no problem doing so.Waynus wrote:no you are not reading too much into it,theres been a big fall out at the club and brown and pepper were shown the door,all these nice compliments towards one and other are a smoke screen,brown wanted jacobs out and pepper put in his place lawn was having none of that hense their departure.brown is right about jacobs but im not so sure about pepper as number two anyway we can only hope someone will see sense and get rid of jacobs.cowboybob wrote: I was thinking the same Waynus, but being the cynics we all are on here I think we may just be over reacting ! Anyway, thank you Mr Brown, job well done in very difficult circumstances !! Up the Bantams !!Jim Brown left the club today and not one word of praise from him to mark Lawn an vice versa. Now, I notice we have also allowed Jon Pepper to leave too. Why the cost cuttings? If Pepper is under contract, surely he shouldn't be allowed to leave until a replacement has been hired. Is this not business sense? I don't want to sound like one of the 'doom brothers', but am I reading too much into the this morning's news stories relating to Brown &amp; Pepper?
skippy, says...
6:15pm Tue 13 May 08
JM wrote:check the darren moore story.
skippy wrote:What a load of garbage! Two weeks ago you were challenged by myself and another fan (sorry forget who) to explain why you think Wayne Jacobs is so rubbish and why you have this personal hatred against him. And you still havenÂ’t done so! DonÂ’t start coming on here with your stupid, offensive sneering until you give us a proper reason for doing so. If you believe your own bulls**t you should have no problem doing so.Waynus wrote:no you are not reading too much into it,theres been a big fall out at the club and brown and pepper were shown the door,all these nice compliments towards one and other are a smoke screen,brown wanted jacobs out and pepper put in his place lawn was having none of that hense their departure.brown is right about jacobs but im not so sure about pepper as number two anyway we can only hope someone will see sense and get rid of jacobs.cowboybob wrote: I was thinking the same Waynus, but being the cynics we all are on here I think we may just be over reacting ! Anyway, thank you Mr Brown, job well done in very difficult circumstances !! Up the Bantams !!Jim Brown left the club today and not one word of praise from him to mark Lawn an vice versa. Now, I notice we have also allowed Jon Pepper to leave too. Why the cost cuttings? If Pepper is under contract, surely he shouldn't be allowed to leave until a replacement has been hired. Is this not business sense? I don't want to sound like one of the 'doom brothers', but am I reading too much into the this morning's news stories relating to Brown &amp; Pepper?
Waynus, Bradford 6 says...
7:24pm Tue 13 May 08
Gentleman Jim wrote:Yes, Jim Brown's position has become unnecessary, but hasn't that been the case for the last 12 months?
Waynus wrote:Are our youth team doing well? How many have come through in the time that Pepper has been handling the job? Not one keeper of worth, no decent midfielders that have come through and made the first team regularly, certainly no strikers of promise, and if we actually did have any of these they are allowed to leave at age 15/16 to bigger clubs where they will get lost amongst the many. I personally have a dim view of our youth policy at present, maybe this is the start of a change. Just because we have taken a step to change things doesn't always mean for the negative, little acorns and all that. And as for Jim Brown, he obviously did many things right and for that he has to be thanked, but as he stated himself, with joint chairmen his position is a bit unnecessary.
cowboybob wrote:Jim Brown left the club today and not one word of praise from him to mark Lawn an vice versa. Now, I notice we have also allowed Jon Pepper to leave too. Why the cost cuttings?
I was thinking the same Waynus, but being the cynics we all are on here I think we may just be over reacting ! Anyway, thank you Mr Brown, job well done in very difficult circumstances !! Up the Bantams !!
If Pepper is under contract, surely he shouldn't be allowed to leave until a replacement has been hired. Is this not business sense?
I don't want to sound like one of the 'doom brothers', but am I reading too much into the this morning's news stories relating to Brown & Pepper?
Also, with regard to Pepper, one man doesn't make an academy. He can't be held solely responsible for the lack of talent being produced. The one thing I would say is that academies take a while to set up and start producing. When we were on the brink a few years ago, we ditched the youth team. How is that Pepper's fault that we had to start all over again? Have you seen the facilities at City's youth academy? It isn't a patch on Huddersfield's or our other neighbour's. Again, how is that Pepper's fault? I am sick of hearing everyone picking faults with our academy. It has only been operating a few seasons so needs to be given a few years to bed in. After all, a star in the making is going to sign for a club with good facilities, so we are not yet in a position to snap these players up.
Finally, we have produced a few good players over the past couple of years and these have been sold onto bigger clubs. The kids recently won a tournament in the USA and showed great promise. For the 3rd and last time, I will ask the same question; how is it Pepper's fault... that we keep selling the youth prospects?
Waynus, Bradford 6 says...
7:24pm Tue 13 May 08
Gentleman Jim wrote:Yes, Jim Brown's position has become unnecessary, but hasn't that been the case for the last 12 months?
Waynus wrote:Are our youth team doing well? How many have come through in the time that Pepper has been handling the job? Not one keeper of worth, no decent midfielders that have come through and made the first team regularly, certainly no strikers of promise, and if we actually did have any of these they are allowed to leave at age 15/16 to bigger clubs where they will get lost amongst the many. I personally have a dim view of our youth policy at present, maybe this is the start of a change. Just because we have taken a step to change things doesn't always mean for the negative, little acorns and all that. And as for Jim Brown, he obviously did many things right and for that he has to be thanked, but as he stated himself, with joint chairmen his position is a bit unnecessary.
cowboybob wrote:Jim Brown left the club today and not one word of praise from him to mark Lawn an vice versa. Now, I notice we have also allowed Jon Pepper to leave too. Why the cost cuttings?
I was thinking the same Waynus, but being the cynics we all are on here I think we may just be over reacting ! Anyway, thank you Mr Brown, job well done in very difficult circumstances !! Up the Bantams !!
If Pepper is under contract, surely he shouldn't be allowed to leave until a replacement has been hired. Is this not business sense?
I don't want to sound like one of the 'doom brothers', but am I reading too much into the this morning's news stories relating to Brown & Pepper?
Also, with regard to Pepper, one man doesn't make an academy. He can't be held solely responsible for the lack of talent being produced. The one thing I would say is that academies take a while to set up and start producing. When we were on the brink a few years ago, we ditched the youth team. How is that Pepper's fault that we had to start all over again? Have you seen the facilities at City's youth academy? It isn't a patch on Huddersfield's or our other neighbour's. Again, how is that Pepper's fault? I am sick of hearing everyone picking faults with our academy. It has only been operating a few seasons so needs to be given a few years to bed in. After all, a star in the making is going to sign for a club with good facilities, so we are not yet in a position to snap these players up.
Finally, we have produced a few good players over the past couple of years and these have been sold onto bigger clubs. The kids recently won a tournament in the USA and showed great promise. For the 3rd and last time, I will ask the same question; how is it Pepper's fault... that we keep selling the youth prospects?
Waynus, Bradford 6 says...
7:24pm Tue 13 May 08
Gentleman Jim wrote:Yes, Jim Brown's position has become unnecessary, but hasn't that been the case for the last 12 months?
Waynus wrote:Are our youth team doing well? How many have come through in the time that Pepper has been handling the job? Not one keeper of worth, no decent midfielders that have come through and made the first team regularly, certainly no strikers of promise, and if we actually did have any of these they are allowed to leave at age 15/16 to bigger clubs where they will get lost amongst the many. I personally have a dim view of our youth policy at present, maybe this is the start of a change. Just because we have taken a step to change things doesn't always mean for the negative, little acorns and all that. And as for Jim Brown, he obviously did many things right and for that he has to be thanked, but as he stated himself, with joint chairmen his position is a bit unnecessary.
cowboybob wrote:Jim Brown left the club today and not one word of praise from him to mark Lawn an vice versa. Now, I notice we have also allowed Jon Pepper to leave too. Why the cost cuttings?
I was thinking the same Waynus, but being the cynics we all are on here I think we may just be over reacting ! Anyway, thank you Mr Brown, job well done in very difficult circumstances !! Up the Bantams !!
If Pepper is under contract, surely he shouldn't be allowed to leave until a replacement has been hired. Is this not business sense?
I don't want to sound like one of the 'doom brothers', but am I reading too much into the this morning's news stories relating to Brown & Pepper?
Also, with regard to Pepper, one man doesn't make an academy. He can't be held solely responsible for the lack of talent being produced. The one thing I would say is that academies take a while to set up and start producing. When we were on the brink a few years ago, we ditched the youth team. How is that Pepper's fault that we had to start all over again? Have you seen the facilities at City's youth academy? It isn't a patch on Huddersfield's or our other neighbour's. Again, how is that Pepper's fault? I am sick of hearing everyone picking faults with our academy. It has only been operating a few seasons so needs to be given a few years to bed in. After all, a star in the making is going to sign for a club with good facilities, so we are not yet in a position to snap these players up.
Finally, we have produced a few good players over the past couple of years and these have been sold onto bigger clubs. The kids recently won a tournament in the USA and showed great promise. For the 3rd and last time, I will ask the same question; how is it Pepper's fault... that we keep selling the youth prospects?
SHAUN, richmond says...
7:32pm Tue 13 May 08
JM wrote:Your not after banning someone again are you???
skippy wrote:What a load of garbage! Two weeks ago you were challenged by myself and another fan (sorry forget who) to explain why you think Wayne Jacobs is so rubbish and why you have this personal hatred against him. And you still havenÂ’t done so! DonÂ’t start coming on here with your stupid, offensive sneering until you give us a proper reason for doing so. If you believe your own bulls**t you should have no problem doing so.Waynus wrote:no you are not reading too much into it,theres been a big fall out at the club and brown and pepper were shown the door,all these nice compliments towards one and other are a smoke screen,brown wanted jacobs out and pepper put in his place lawn was having none of that hense their departure.brown is right about jacobs but im not so sure about pepper as number two anyway we can only hope someone will see sense and get rid of jacobs.cowboybob wrote: I was thinking the same Waynus, but being the cynics we all are on here I think we may just be over reacting ! Anyway, thank you Mr Brown, job well done in very difficult circumstances !! Up the Bantams !!Jim Brown left the club today and not one word of praise from him to mark Lawn an vice versa. Now, I notice we have also allowed Jon Pepper to leave too. Why the cost cuttings? If Pepper is under contract, surely he shouldn't be allowed to leave until a replacement has been hired. Is this not business sense? I don't want to sound like one of the 'doom brothers', but am I reading too much into the this morning's news stories relating to Brown &amp; Pepper?
Too much acid running through your body!!
Calm down its the end of the season!!
SHAUN, richmond says...
7:32pm Tue 13 May 08
JM wrote:Your not after banning someone again are you???
skippy wrote:What a load of garbage! Two weeks ago you were challenged by myself and another fan (sorry forget who) to explain why you think Wayne Jacobs is so rubbish and why you have this personal hatred against him. And you still havenÂ’t done so! DonÂ’t start coming on here with your stupid, offensive sneering until you give us a proper reason for doing so. If you believe your own bulls**t you should have no problem doing so.Waynus wrote:no you are not reading too much into it,theres been a big fall out at the club and brown and pepper were shown the door,all these nice compliments towards one and other are a smoke screen,brown wanted jacobs out and pepper put in his place lawn was having none of that hense their departure.brown is right about jacobs but im not so sure about pepper as number two anyway we can only hope someone will see sense and get rid of jacobs.cowboybob wrote: I was thinking the same Waynus, but being the cynics we all are on here I think we may just be over reacting ! Anyway, thank you Mr Brown, job well done in very difficult circumstances !! Up the Bantams !!Jim Brown left the club today and not one word of praise from him to mark Lawn an vice versa. Now, I notice we have also allowed Jon Pepper to leave too. Why the cost cuttings? If Pepper is under contract, surely he shouldn't be allowed to leave until a replacement has been hired. Is this not business sense? I don't want to sound like one of the 'doom brothers', but am I reading too much into the this morning's news stories relating to Brown &amp; Pepper?
Too much acid running through your body!!
Calm down its the end of the season!!
SHAUN, richmond says...
7:32pm Tue 13 May 08
JM wrote:Your not after banning someone again are you???
skippy wrote:What a load of garbage! Two weeks ago you were challenged by myself and another fan (sorry forget who) to explain why you think Wayne Jacobs is so rubbish and why you have this personal hatred against him. And you still havenÂ’t done so! DonÂ’t start coming on here with your stupid, offensive sneering until you give us a proper reason for doing so. If you believe your own bulls**t you should have no problem doing so.Waynus wrote:no you are not reading too much into it,theres been a big fall out at the club and brown and pepper were shown the door,all these nice compliments towards one and other are a smoke screen,brown wanted jacobs out and pepper put in his place lawn was having none of that hense their departure.brown is right about jacobs but im not so sure about pepper as number two anyway we can only hope someone will see sense and get rid of jacobs.cowboybob wrote: I was thinking the same Waynus, but being the cynics we all are on here I think we may just be over reacting ! Anyway, thank you Mr Brown, job well done in very difficult circumstances !! Up the Bantams !!Jim Brown left the club today and not one word of praise from him to mark Lawn an vice versa. Now, I notice we have also allowed Jon Pepper to leave too. Why the cost cuttings? If Pepper is under contract, surely he shouldn't be allowed to leave until a replacement has been hired. Is this not business sense? I don't want to sound like one of the 'doom brothers', but am I reading too much into the this morning's news stories relating to Brown &amp; Pepper?
Too much acid running through your body!!
Calm down its the end of the season!!
jaffalaffa, middle of the hills says...
9:11pm Tue 13 May 08
NOTSO sensillbelly,
We read your rants all the time. We know that you are really not a City fan, and have a puerile attitude given your malicious posts.
However if you have anything to offer and the way you go on and on, would suggest that you think you do, then I (and I guess a lot of other posters) invite you to clarify the following:-
What is the miraculous plan you have to turn the fortunes of the Club around. Respond giving a clear financial strategy based on sound economics with projections based on different variable outcomes (I have seen you telling Building SocietyÂ’s how to run their affairs). Then clarify who should manage the Club, both playing and support staff. Which players you deem fit and affordable to take the Club forward. Perhaps you could produce sketches of the new kit you think we should play in. Comment on issues such as drinks/beverages/sna
cks being sold. Where do you think the away fans should be located? What would your stewarding policy be?
Finally what price do you think the fans should be charged to purchase season tickets? Come up with comparable figures for Man U, L**ds, Hudds Town, Oldham, Rochdale, Halifax, Farsley, Harrogate Town, and demonstrate which model would be best suited. Until you can come up with something reasonable, The as ever please press the delete button before you post.
We read your rants all the time. We know that you are really not a City fan, and have a puerile attitude given your malicious posts.
However if you have anything to offer and the way you go on and on, would suggest that you think you do, then I (and I guess a lot of other posters) invite you to clarify the following:-
What is the miraculous plan you have to turn the fortunes of the Club around. Respond giving a clear financial strategy based on sound economics with projections based on different variable outcomes (I have seen you telling Building SocietyÂ’s how to run their affairs). Then clarify who should manage the Club, both playing and support staff. Which players you deem fit and affordable to take the Club forward. Perhaps you could produce sketches of the new kit you think we should play in. Comment on issues such as drinks/beverages/sna
cks being sold. Where do you think the away fans should be located? What would your stewarding policy be?
Finally what price do you think the fans should be charged to purchase season tickets? Come up with comparable figures for Man U, L**ds, Hudds Town, Oldham, Rochdale, Halifax, Farsley, Harrogate Town, and demonstrate which model would be best suited. Until you can come up with something reasonable, The as ever please press the delete button before you post.
jaffalaffa, middle of the hills says...
9:11pm Tue 13 May 08
NOTSO sensillbelly,
We read your rants all the time. We know that you are really not a City fan, and have a puerile attitude given your malicious posts.
However if you have anything to offer and the way you go on and on, would suggest that you think you do, then I (and I guess a lot of other posters) invite you to clarify the following:-
What is the miraculous plan you have to turn the fortunes of the Club around. Respond giving a clear financial strategy based on sound economics with projections based on different variable outcomes (I have seen you telling Building SocietyÂ’s how to run their affairs). Then clarify who should manage the Club, both playing and support staff. Which players you deem fit and affordable to take the Club forward. Perhaps you could produce sketches of the new kit you think we should play in. Comment on issues such as drinks/beverages/sna
cks being sold. Where do you think the away fans should be located? What would your stewarding policy be?
Finally what price do you think the fans should be charged to purchase season tickets? Come up with comparable figures for Man U, L**ds, Hudds Town, Oldham, Rochdale, Halifax, Farsley, Harrogate Town, and demonstrate which model would be best suited. Until you can come up with something reasonable, The as ever please press the delete button before you post.
We read your rants all the time. We know that you are really not a City fan, and have a puerile attitude given your malicious posts.
However if you have anything to offer and the way you go on and on, would suggest that you think you do, then I (and I guess a lot of other posters) invite you to clarify the following:-
What is the miraculous plan you have to turn the fortunes of the Club around. Respond giving a clear financial strategy based on sound economics with projections based on different variable outcomes (I have seen you telling Building SocietyÂ’s how to run their affairs). Then clarify who should manage the Club, both playing and support staff. Which players you deem fit and affordable to take the Club forward. Perhaps you could produce sketches of the new kit you think we should play in. Comment on issues such as drinks/beverages/sna
cks being sold. Where do you think the away fans should be located? What would your stewarding policy be?
Finally what price do you think the fans should be charged to purchase season tickets? Come up with comparable figures for Man U, L**ds, Hudds Town, Oldham, Rochdale, Halifax, Farsley, Harrogate Town, and demonstrate which model would be best suited. Until you can come up with something reasonable, The as ever please press the delete button before you post.
jaffalaffa, middle of the hills says...
9:11pm Tue 13 May 08
NOTSO sensillbelly,
We read your rants all the time. We know that you are really not a City fan, and have a puerile attitude given your malicious posts.
However if you have anything to offer and the way you go on and on, would suggest that you think you do, then I (and I guess a lot of other posters) invite you to clarify the following:-
What is the miraculous plan you have to turn the fortunes of the Club around. Respond giving a clear financial strategy based on sound economics with projections based on different variable outcomes (I have seen you telling Building SocietyÂ’s how to run their affairs). Then clarify who should manage the Club, both playing and support staff. Which players you deem fit and affordable to take the Club forward. Perhaps you could produce sketches of the new kit you think we should play in. Comment on issues such as drinks/beverages/sna
cks being sold. Where do you think the away fans should be located? What would your stewarding policy be?
Finally what price do you think the fans should be charged to purchase season tickets? Come up with comparable figures for Man U, L**ds, Hudds Town, Oldham, Rochdale, Halifax, Farsley, Harrogate Town, and demonstrate which model would be best suited. Until you can come up with something reasonable, The as ever please press the delete button before you post.
We read your rants all the time. We know that you are really not a City fan, and have a puerile attitude given your malicious posts.
However if you have anything to offer and the way you go on and on, would suggest that you think you do, then I (and I guess a lot of other posters) invite you to clarify the following:-
What is the miraculous plan you have to turn the fortunes of the Club around. Respond giving a clear financial strategy based on sound economics with projections based on different variable outcomes (I have seen you telling Building SocietyÂ’s how to run their affairs). Then clarify who should manage the Club, both playing and support staff. Which players you deem fit and affordable to take the Club forward. Perhaps you could produce sketches of the new kit you think we should play in. Comment on issues such as drinks/beverages/sna
cks being sold. Where do you think the away fans should be located? What would your stewarding policy be?
Finally what price do you think the fans should be charged to purchase season tickets? Come up with comparable figures for Man U, L**ds, Hudds Town, Oldham, Rochdale, Halifax, Farsley, Harrogate Town, and demonstrate which model would be best suited. Until you can come up with something reasonable, The as ever please press the delete button before you post.
Globalman, Keighley says...
9:26pm Tue 13 May 08
Listen everyone- it's clear Mr. Sensible is a wind up merchant.
He cannot and will not back up his comments when directly asked.
He has failed to answer all of mine to date.
Let's leave him to his own MUFC/CFC/LUFC world.
I have to totally agree with JM from Skipton.
I don't support BCFC 'cos its fashionable- I support them and have done so since 1979 because I want to.
I don't seek glory nor do I expect we will ever get into the Prem again.
In fact it wasn't that good- seeing the team chasing shadows most of the time.
No I want to go to the game on a saturday full of hope that we can win the game.
I want to stand up and shout for the team knowing I can make a difference.
I like the thrills and spills of lower league footy.
I laugh and cry when I see shots at goal go for a throw in.
Do I really care- do I fcuk.
I- along with every other city fan will go down to VP full of hope for next season.
Do I care what the financial angle of the season ticket deal is- do I fcuk.
Since when has it ever mattered to the fan in the street about the clubs tax liabilities re season tickets?
Like never.
So Sensible your and any other naysayer's dross and drivle really doesn't matter- to me or anyone else who loves the club cos you will never stop me supporting BCFC.
CTID
He cannot and will not back up his comments when directly asked.
He has failed to answer all of mine to date.
Let's leave him to his own MUFC/CFC/LUFC world.
I have to totally agree with JM from Skipton.
I don't support BCFC 'cos its fashionable- I support them and have done so since 1979 because I want to.
I don't seek glory nor do I expect we will ever get into the Prem again.
In fact it wasn't that good- seeing the team chasing shadows most of the time.
No I want to go to the game on a saturday full of hope that we can win the game.
I want to stand up and shout for the team knowing I can make a difference.
I like the thrills and spills of lower league footy.
I laugh and cry when I see shots at goal go for a throw in.
Do I really care- do I fcuk.
I- along with every other city fan will go down to VP full of hope for next season.
Do I care what the financial angle of the season ticket deal is- do I fcuk.
Since when has it ever mattered to the fan in the street about the clubs tax liabilities re season tickets?
Like never.
So Sensible your and any other naysayer's dross and drivle really doesn't matter- to me or anyone else who loves the club cos you will never stop me supporting BCFC.
CTID
Globalman, Keighley says...
9:26pm Tue 13 May 08
Listen everyone- it's clear Mr. Sensible is a wind up merchant.
He cannot and will not back up his comments when directly asked.
He has failed to answer all of mine to date.
Let's leave him to his own MUFC/CFC/LUFC world.
I have to totally agree with JM from Skipton.
I don't support BCFC 'cos its fashionable- I support them and have done so since 1979 because I want to.
I don't seek glory nor do I expect we will ever get into the Prem again.
In fact it wasn't that good- seeing the team chasing shadows most of the time.
No I want to go to the game on a saturday full of hope that we can win the game.
I want to stand up and shout for the team knowing I can make a difference.
I like the thrills and spills of lower league footy.
I laugh and cry when I see shots at goal go for a throw in.
Do I really care- do I fcuk.
I- along with every other city fan will go down to VP full of hope for next season.
Do I care what the financial angle of the season ticket deal is- do I fcuk.
Since when has it ever mattered to the fan in the street about the clubs tax liabilities re season tickets?
Like never.
So Sensible your and any other naysayer's dross and drivle really doesn't matter- to me or anyone else who loves the club cos you will never stop me supporting BCFC.
CTID
He cannot and will not back up his comments when directly asked.
He has failed to answer all of mine to date.
Let's leave him to his own MUFC/CFC/LUFC world.
I have to totally agree with JM from Skipton.
I don't support BCFC 'cos its fashionable- I support them and have done so since 1979 because I want to.
I don't seek glory nor do I expect we will ever get into the Prem again.
In fact it wasn't that good- seeing the team chasing shadows most of the time.
No I want to go to the game on a saturday full of hope that we can win the game.
I want to stand up and shout for the team knowing I can make a difference.
I like the thrills and spills of lower league footy.
I laugh and cry when I see shots at goal go for a throw in.
Do I really care- do I fcuk.
I- along with every other city fan will go down to VP full of hope for next season.
Do I care what the financial angle of the season ticket deal is- do I fcuk.
Since when has it ever mattered to the fan in the street about the clubs tax liabilities re season tickets?
Like never.
So Sensible your and any other naysayer's dross and drivle really doesn't matter- to me or anyone else who loves the club cos you will never stop me supporting BCFC.
CTID
Globalman, Keighley says...
9:26pm Tue 13 May 08
Listen everyone- it's clear Mr. Sensible is a wind up merchant.
He cannot and will not back up his comments when directly asked.
He has failed to answer all of mine to date.
Let's leave him to his own MUFC/CFC/LUFC world.
I have to totally agree with JM from Skipton.
I don't support BCFC 'cos its fashionable- I support them and have done so since 1979 because I want to.
I don't seek glory nor do I expect we will ever get into the Prem again.
In fact it wasn't that good- seeing the team chasing shadows most of the time.
No I want to go to the game on a saturday full of hope that we can win the game.
I want to stand up and shout for the team knowing I can make a difference.
I like the thrills and spills of lower league footy.
I laugh and cry when I see shots at goal go for a throw in.
Do I really care- do I fcuk.
I- along with every other city fan will go down to VP full of hope for next season.
Do I care what the financial angle of the season ticket deal is- do I fcuk.
Since when has it ever mattered to the fan in the street about the clubs tax liabilities re season tickets?
Like never.
So Sensible your and any other naysayer's dross and drivle really doesn't matter- to me or anyone else who loves the club cos you will never stop me supporting BCFC.
CTID
He cannot and will not back up his comments when directly asked.
He has failed to answer all of mine to date.
Let's leave him to his own MUFC/CFC/LUFC world.
I have to totally agree with JM from Skipton.
I don't support BCFC 'cos its fashionable- I support them and have done so since 1979 because I want to.
I don't seek glory nor do I expect we will ever get into the Prem again.
In fact it wasn't that good- seeing the team chasing shadows most of the time.
No I want to go to the game on a saturday full of hope that we can win the game.
I want to stand up and shout for the team knowing I can make a difference.
I like the thrills and spills of lower league footy.
I laugh and cry when I see shots at goal go for a throw in.
Do I really care- do I fcuk.
I- along with every other city fan will go down to VP full of hope for next season.
Do I care what the financial angle of the season ticket deal is- do I fcuk.
Since when has it ever mattered to the fan in the street about the clubs tax liabilities re season tickets?
Like never.
So Sensible your and any other naysayer's dross and drivle really doesn't matter- to me or anyone else who loves the club cos you will never stop me supporting BCFC.
CTID
spikypete, guiseley says...
9:29pm Tue 13 May 08
Dont think it will happen jaf. Bad pennies always turn up etc..
Got my ticket. Paid by card. Everyone (inc Sensible) should be happy! CTID
Got my ticket. Paid by card. Everyone (inc Sensible) should be happy! CTID
spikypete, guiseley says...
9:29pm Tue 13 May 08
Dont think it will happen jaf. Bad pennies always turn up etc..
Got my ticket. Paid by card. Everyone (inc Sensible) should be happy! CTID
Got my ticket. Paid by card. Everyone (inc Sensible) should be happy! CTID
spikypete, guiseley says...
9:29pm Tue 13 May 08
Dont think it will happen jaf. Bad pennies always turn up etc..
Got my ticket. Paid by card. Everyone (inc Sensible) should be happy! CTID
Got my ticket. Paid by card. Everyone (inc Sensible) should be happy! CTID
jaffalaffa, middle of the hills says...
10:53pm Tue 13 May 08
Guess he is a kerb Crawler given his prediliction to drive past the ticket office! Sorry but I am working hard for a living and am niot into some perverse ritual. Hope it is satisfied!
Another mate has borrowed some money to buy an extra ticket. I guess that in a bizarre way people are reacting against the posts.
Another mate has borrowed some money to buy an extra ticket. I guess that in a bizarre way people are reacting against the posts.
jaffalaffa, middle of the hills says...
10:53pm Tue 13 May 08
Guess he is a kerb Crawler given his prediliction to drive past the ticket office! Sorry but I am working hard for a living and am niot into some perverse ritual. Hope it is satisfied!
Another mate has borrowed some money to buy an extra ticket. I guess that in a bizarre way people are reacting against the posts.
Another mate has borrowed some money to buy an extra ticket. I guess that in a bizarre way people are reacting against the posts.
jaffalaffa, middle of the hills says...
10:53pm Tue 13 May 08
Guess he is a kerb Crawler given his prediliction to drive past the ticket office! Sorry but I am working hard for a living and am niot into some perverse ritual. Hope it is satisfied!
Another mate has borrowed some money to buy an extra ticket. I guess that in a bizarre way people are reacting against the posts.
Another mate has borrowed some money to buy an extra ticket. I guess that in a bizarre way people are reacting against the posts.
Peking Duck, Beijing, China says...
12:36am Wed 14 May 08
Thanks Jim, your a big reason as to why we're all talking - helping to save BCFC. A heartwarming report and really pleasing sentiments from the man in wishing the current Chairmen the best. Heartfelt thanks.
P.S..See Leeds got beat Sensible.
P.S..See Leeds got beat Sensible.
Peking Duck, Beijing, China says...
12:36am Wed 14 May 08
Thanks Jim, your a big reason as to why we're all talking - helping to save BCFC. A heartwarming report and really pleasing sentiments from the man in wishing the current Chairmen the best. Heartfelt thanks.
P.S..See Leeds got beat Sensible.
P.S..See Leeds got beat Sensible.
Peking Duck, Beijing, China says...
12:36am Wed 14 May 08
Thanks Jim, your a big reason as to why we're all talking - helping to save BCFC. A heartwarming report and really pleasing sentiments from the man in wishing the current Chairmen the best. Heartfelt thanks.
P.S..See Leeds got beat Sensible.
P.S..See Leeds got beat Sensible.
Henley B, Timbukthree says...
1:39am Wed 14 May 08
JM wrote:TRUE JM VERY TRUE - well said
Mr Sensible wrote:You know what, this post actually sums up why you just donÂ’t get it with BCFC and why youÂ’re wind up comments are so pathetic.
Now lads does this prove I am sensible or daft. Bradford City are a great club with the greatest management and supporters than any other club in the football league. They are destined to become one of the top clubs in Europe within four years and te memory will live on for ever. Who is the sensible and who is the daft one. P.S. when City are in the Champions League Final I understand it will be buy one get two free as a reward for the supporters who followed them through the hard times.
No City supporter expects City to in the Champions League Final in any of our lifetimes and do you know what? We donÂ’t care.
We donÂ’t support BCFC because we want them to rise back to the Premiership, become a force and have a massive fan base around the world. We support them because they are our club and we love them. Love them for what they are, love them because of what theyÂ’ve given us and love them because they are ours.
I feel sorry for you, as a Man U supporter, you might be able to enjoy winning the Premiership and getting to the Champions League Final, but will you be in Moscow? Do you get to ever see them? Does your support ever make a difference to them?
You can sneer at this club all you want for offering stupid season ticket deals and coming across desperate, but you donÂ’t get this club what it means to us and why you come across as so stupid. BCFC will probably never be in the Premier League again, but weÂ’ll still support them for the rest of our lives and have a bloody amazing time doing so.
Henley B, Timbukthree says...
1:39am Wed 14 May 08
JM wrote:TRUE JM VERY TRUE - well said
Mr Sensible wrote:You know what, this post actually sums up why you just donÂ’t get it with BCFC and why youÂ’re wind up comments are so pathetic.
Now lads does this prove I am sensible or daft. Bradford City are a great club with the greatest management and supporters than any other club in the football league. They are destined to become one of the top clubs in Europe within four years and te memory will live on for ever. Who is the sensible and who is the daft one. P.S. when City are in the Champions League Final I understand it will be buy one get two free as a reward for the supporters who followed them through the hard times.
No City supporter expects City to in the Champions League Final in any of our lifetimes and do you know what? We donÂ’t care.
We donÂ’t support BCFC because we want them to rise back to the Premiership, become a force and have a massive fan base around the world. We support them because they are our club and we love them. Love them for what they are, love them because of what theyÂ’ve given us and love them because they are ours.
I feel sorry for you, as a Man U supporter, you might be able to enjoy winning the Premiership and getting to the Champions League Final, but will you be in Moscow? Do you get to ever see them? Does your support ever make a difference to them?
You can sneer at this club all you want for offering stupid season ticket deals and coming across desperate, but you donÂ’t get this club what it means to us and why you come across as so stupid. BCFC will probably never be in the Premier League again, but weÂ’ll still support them for the rest of our lives and have a bloody amazing time doing so.
Henley B, Timbukthree says...
1:39am Wed 14 May 08
JM wrote:TRUE JM VERY TRUE - well said
Mr Sensible wrote:You know what, this post actually sums up why you just donÂ’t get it with BCFC and why youÂ’re wind up comments are so pathetic.
Now lads does this prove I am sensible or daft. Bradford City are a great club with the greatest management and supporters than any other club in the football league. They are destined to become one of the top clubs in Europe within four years and te memory will live on for ever. Who is the sensible and who is the daft one. P.S. when City are in the Champions League Final I understand it will be buy one get two free as a reward for the supporters who followed them through the hard times.
No City supporter expects City to in the Champions League Final in any of our lifetimes and do you know what? We donÂ’t care.
We donÂ’t support BCFC because we want them to rise back to the Premiership, become a force and have a massive fan base around the world. We support them because they are our club and we love them. Love them for what they are, love them because of what theyÂ’ve given us and love them because they are ours.
I feel sorry for you, as a Man U supporter, you might be able to enjoy winning the Premiership and getting to the Champions League Final, but will you be in Moscow? Do you get to ever see them? Does your support ever make a difference to them?
You can sneer at this club all you want for offering stupid season ticket deals and coming across desperate, but you donÂ’t get this club what it means to us and why you come across as so stupid. BCFC will probably never be in the Premier League again, but weÂ’ll still support them for the rest of our lives and have a bloody amazing time doing so.
Henley B, Timbukthree says...
1:48am Wed 14 May 08
And yes, the Shauns, Skippys, Sensibles on here really just don't get it, I agree that does sum it up perfectly. Sensible is the stereotypical MUFC supporter, followed the club since he was a child (2yrs) 'cos they were already the best playing team. He's shallow. Think it's time to turn the tables and start winding sensible and the rest of the girls up for a change haha
Henley B, Timbukthree says...
1:48am Wed 14 May 08
And yes, the Shauns, Skippys, Sensibles on here really just don't get it, I agree that does sum it up perfectly. Sensible is the stereotypical MUFC supporter, followed the club since he was a child (2yrs) 'cos they were already the best playing team. He's shallow. Think it's time to turn the tables and start winding sensible and the rest of the girls up for a change haha
Henley B, Timbukthree says...
1:48am Wed 14 May 08
And yes, the Shauns, Skippys, Sensibles on here really just don't get it, I agree that does sum it up perfectly. Sensible is the stereotypical MUFC supporter, followed the club since he was a child (2yrs) 'cos they were already the best playing team. He's shallow. Think it's time to turn the tables and start winding sensible and the rest of the girls up for a change haha
Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
8:19am Wed 14 May 08
Come on lads/lasses and get in the real World. Who next to go at City - who is left with a bit of common sense. Perhaps Sticks will be next on the list. Now take a note of this, If you buy a season ticket before 15 June I predict you will ALL get an extra ticket, no I do not mean 9,000 will have been sold.It may be that it is said they have been sold or just a straight good will gesture to the fans. Unfortunately I assume the offer will be just before the start of the season and the choice of seating will be limited. For your information called in at HSBC yesterday and my account is in credit. Come on then lets have some of your comments and let your SENSE rule your head.
Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
8:19am Wed 14 May 08
Come on lads/lasses and get in the real World. Who next to go at City - who is left with a bit of common sense. Perhaps Sticks will be next on the list. Now take a note of this, If you buy a season ticket before 15 June I predict you will ALL get an extra ticket, no I do not mean 9,000 will have been sold.It may be that it is said they have been sold or just a straight good will gesture to the fans. Unfortunately I assume the offer will be just before the start of the season and the choice of seating will be limited. For your information called in at HSBC yesterday and my account is in credit. Come on then lets have some of your comments and let your SENSE rule your head.
Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
8:19am Wed 14 May 08
Come on lads/lasses and get in the real World. Who next to go at City - who is left with a bit of common sense. Perhaps Sticks will be next on the list. Now take a note of this, If you buy a season ticket before 15 June I predict you will ALL get an extra ticket, no I do not mean 9,000 will have been sold.It may be that it is said they have been sold or just a straight good will gesture to the fans. Unfortunately I assume the offer will be just before the start of the season and the choice of seating will be limited. For your information called in at HSBC yesterday and my account is in credit. Come on then lets have some of your comments and let your SENSE rule your head.
skippy, says...
8:57am Wed 14 May 08
Mr Sensible wrote:no chance of that the only sense these blind city fans can come up with is nonsense.
Come on lads/lasses and get in the real World. Who next to go at City - who is left with a bit of common sense. Perhaps Sticks will be next on the list. Now take a note of this, If you buy a season ticket before 15 June I predict you will ALL get an extra ticket, no I do not mean 9,000 will have been sold.It may be that it is said they have been sold or just a straight good will gesture to the fans. Unfortunately I assume the offer will be just before the start of the season and the choice of seating will be limited. For your information called in at HSBC yesterday and my account is in credit. Come on then lets have some of your comments and let your SENSE rule your head.
skippy, says...
8:57am Wed 14 May 08
Mr Sensible wrote:no chance of that the only sense these blind city fans can come up with is nonsense.
Come on lads/lasses and get in the real World. Who next to go at City - who is left with a bit of common sense. Perhaps Sticks will be next on the list. Now take a note of this, If you buy a season ticket before 15 June I predict you will ALL get an extra ticket, no I do not mean 9,000 will have been sold.It may be that it is said they have been sold or just a straight good will gesture to the fans. Unfortunately I assume the offer will be just before the start of the season and the choice of seating will be limited. For your information called in at HSBC yesterday and my account is in credit. Come on then lets have some of your comments and let your SENSE rule your head.
skippy, says...
8:57am Wed 14 May 08
Mr Sensible wrote:no chance of that the only sense these blind city fans can come up with is nonsense.
Come on lads/lasses and get in the real World. Who next to go at City - who is left with a bit of common sense. Perhaps Sticks will be next on the list. Now take a note of this, If you buy a season ticket before 15 June I predict you will ALL get an extra ticket, no I do not mean 9,000 will have been sold.It may be that it is said they have been sold or just a straight good will gesture to the fans. Unfortunately I assume the offer will be just before the start of the season and the choice of seating will be limited. For your information called in at HSBC yesterday and my account is in credit. Come on then lets have some of your comments and let your SENSE rule your head.
SHAUN, richmond says...
9:09am Wed 14 May 08
Its no secret Brown and Lawn do not get along!
I always thought Brown to be a calming influence within the club. Now hes gone, that should unleash Mark Lawn in the BoardRoom.......Now let the fun begin!!!!
I always thought Brown to be a calming influence within the club. Now hes gone, that should unleash Mark Lawn in the BoardRoom.......Now let the fun begin!!!!
SHAUN, richmond says...
9:09am Wed 14 May 08
Its no secret Brown and Lawn do not get along!
I always thought Brown to be a calming influence within the club. Now hes gone, that should unleash Mark Lawn in the BoardRoom.......Now let the fun begin!!!!
I always thought Brown to be a calming influence within the club. Now hes gone, that should unleash Mark Lawn in the BoardRoom.......Now let the fun begin!!!!
SHAUN, richmond says...
9:09am Wed 14 May 08
Its no secret Brown and Lawn do not get along!
I always thought Brown to be a calming influence within the club. Now hes gone, that should unleash Mark Lawn in the BoardRoom.......Now let the fun begin!!!!
I always thought Brown to be a calming influence within the club. Now hes gone, that should unleash Mark Lawn in the BoardRoom.......Now let the fun begin!!!!
Gentleman Jim, Yooohooo over here says...
11:23am Wed 14 May 08
Waynus wrote:Didn't blame anyone Waynus, I asked a pertinent question, how many youngsters have come through in the time Jon Pepper has been with us? We are all aware of the couple of promising youngsters who have recently moved, and these were 14/15 year old. I don't think the coach can be held responsible if the club shifts these kids out instead of trying their hardest to hold onto them. What I did say was, I am disappointed at our youth set up, 1, when we do develop a player he is gone long before he gets a sniff at our first team, and 2, how many actually make it through to the first team. The idea of having a youth policy is to generate a batch of youngsters who will be good enough to bolster a first team squad, and maybe become saleable assets in the future. Now how many have we produced in the time JP has worked in that department which fall into either category above? Any club can be fluky enough to have one or two outstanding talents, it doesn't mean the work done by the parent club has developed this, it just means the kid has talent. The work of a youth set-up is to produce, develop and coach youngsters into a position where they can be of benefit to the parent club, and I personally have not seen to many of these in claret and amber.
Gentleman Jim wrote:Yes, Jim Brown's position has become unnecessary, but hasn't that been the case for the last 12 months?
Waynus wrote:Are our youth team doing well? How many have come through in the time that Pepper has been handling the job? Not one keeper of worth, no decent midfielders that have come through and made the first team regularly, certainly no strikers of promise, and if we actually did have any of these they are allowed to leave at age 15/16 to bigger clubs where they will get lost amongst the many. I personally have a dim view of our youth policy at present, maybe this is the start of a change. Just because we have taken a step to change things doesn't always mean for the negative, little acorns and all that. And as for Jim Brown, he obviously did many things right and for that he has to be thanked, but as he stated himself, with joint chairmen his position is a bit unnecessary.
cowboybob wrote:Jim Brown left the club today and not one word of praise from him to mark Lawn an vice versa. Now, I notice we have also allowed Jon Pepper to leave too. Why the cost cuttings?
I was thinking the same Waynus, but being the cynics we all are on here I think we may just be over reacting ! Anyway, thank you Mr Brown, job well done in very difficult circumstances !! Up the Bantams !!
If Pepper is under contract, surely he shouldn't be allowed to leave until a replacement has been hired. Is this not business sense?
I don't want to sound like one of the 'doom brothers', but am I reading too much into the this morning's news stories relating to Brown &amp; Pepper?
Also, with regard to Pepper, one man doesn't make an academy. He can't be held solely responsible for the lack of talent being produced. The one thing I would say is that academies take a while to set up and start producing. When we were on the brink a few years ago, we ditched the youth team. How is that Pepper's fault that we had to start all over again? Have you seen the facilities at City's youth academy? It isn't a patch on Huddersfield's or our other neighbour's. Again, how is that Pepper's fault? I am sick of hearing everyone picking faults with our academy. It has only been operating a few seasons so needs to be given a few years to bed in. After all, a star in the making is going to sign for a club with good facilities, so we are not yet in a position to snap these players up.
Finally, we have produced a few good players over the past couple of years and these have been sold onto bigger clubs. The kids recently won a tournament in the USA and showed great promise. For the 3rd and last time, I will ask the same question; how is it Pepper's fault... that we keep selling the youth prospects?
Gentleman Jim, Yooohooo over here says...
11:23am Wed 14 May 08
Waynus wrote:Didn't blame anyone Waynus, I asked a pertinent question, how many youngsters have come through in the time Jon Pepper has been with us? We are all aware of the couple of promising youngsters who have recently moved, and these were 14/15 year old. I don't think the coach can be held responsible if the club shifts these kids out instead of trying their hardest to hold onto them. What I did say was, I am disappointed at our youth set up, 1, when we do develop a player he is gone long before he gets a sniff at our first team, and 2, how many actually make it through to the first team. The idea of having a youth policy is to generate a batch of youngsters who will be good enough to bolster a first team squad, and maybe become saleable assets in the future. Now how many have we produced in the time JP has worked in that department which fall into either category above? Any club can be fluky enough to have one or two outstanding talents, it doesn't mean the work done by the parent club has developed this, it just means the kid has talent. The work of a youth set-up is to produce, develop and coach youngsters into a position where they can be of benefit to the parent club, and I personally have not seen to many of these in claret and amber.
Gentleman Jim wrote:Yes, Jim Brown's position has become unnecessary, but hasn't that been the case for the last 12 months?
Waynus wrote:Are our youth team doing well? How many have come through in the time that Pepper has been handling the job? Not one keeper of worth, no decent midfielders that have come through and made the first team regularly, certainly no strikers of promise, and if we actually did have any of these they are allowed to leave at age 15/16 to bigger clubs where they will get lost amongst the many. I personally have a dim view of our youth policy at present, maybe this is the start of a change. Just because we have taken a step to change things doesn't always mean for the negative, little acorns and all that. And as for Jim Brown, he obviously did many things right and for that he has to be thanked, but as he stated himself, with joint chairmen his position is a bit unnecessary.
cowboybob wrote:Jim Brown left the club today and not one word of praise from him to mark Lawn an vice versa. Now, I notice we have also allowed Jon Pepper to leave too. Why the cost cuttings?
I was thinking the same Waynus, but being the cynics we all are on here I think we may just be over reacting ! Anyway, thank you Mr Brown, job well done in very difficult circumstances !! Up the Bantams !!
If Pepper is under contract, surely he shouldn't be allowed to leave until a replacement has been hired. Is this not business sense?
I don't want to sound like one of the 'doom brothers', but am I reading too much into the this morning's news stories relating to Brown &amp; Pepper?
Also, with regard to Pepper, one man doesn't make an academy. He can't be held solely responsible for the lack of talent being produced. The one thing I would say is that academies take a while to set up and start producing. When we were on the brink a few years ago, we ditched the youth team. How is that Pepper's fault that we had to start all over again? Have you seen the facilities at City's youth academy? It isn't a patch on Huddersfield's or our other neighbour's. Again, how is that Pepper's fault? I am sick of hearing everyone picking faults with our academy. It has only been operating a few seasons so needs to be given a few years to bed in. After all, a star in the making is going to sign for a club with good facilities, so we are not yet in a position to snap these players up.
Finally, we have produced a few good players over the past couple of years and these have been sold onto bigger clubs. The kids recently won a tournament in the USA and showed great promise. For the 3rd and last time, I will ask the same question; how is it Pepper's fault... that we keep selling the youth prospects?
Gentleman Jim, Yooohooo over here says...
11:23am Wed 14 May 08
Waynus wrote:Didn't blame anyone Waynus, I asked a pertinent question, how many youngsters have come through in the time Jon Pepper has been with us? We are all aware of the couple of promising youngsters who have recently moved, and these were 14/15 year old. I don't think the coach can be held responsible if the club shifts these kids out instead of trying their hardest to hold onto them. What I did say was, I am disappointed at our youth set up, 1, when we do develop a player he is gone long before he gets a sniff at our first team, and 2, how many actually make it through to the first team. The idea of having a youth policy is to generate a batch of youngsters who will be good enough to bolster a first team squad, and maybe become saleable assets in the future. Now how many have we produced in the time JP has worked in that department which fall into either category above? Any club can be fluky enough to have one or two outstanding talents, it doesn't mean the work done by the parent club has developed this, it just means the kid has talent. The work of a youth set-up is to produce, develop and coach youngsters into a position where they can be of benefit to the parent club, and I personally have not seen to many of these in claret and amber.
Gentleman Jim wrote:Yes, Jim Brown's position has become unnecessary, but hasn't that been the case for the last 12 months?
Waynus wrote:Are our youth team doing well? How many have come through in the time that Pepper has been handling the job? Not one keeper of worth, no decent midfielders that have come through and made the first team regularly, certainly no strikers of promise, and if we actually did have any of these they are allowed to leave at age 15/16 to bigger clubs where they will get lost amongst the many. I personally have a dim view of our youth policy at present, maybe this is the start of a change. Just because we have taken a step to change things doesn't always mean for the negative, little acorns and all that. And as for Jim Brown, he obviously did many things right and for that he has to be thanked, but as he stated himself, with joint chairmen his position is a bit unnecessary.
cowboybob wrote:Jim Brown left the club today and not one word of praise from him to mark Lawn an vice versa. Now, I notice we have also allowed Jon Pepper to leave too. Why the cost cuttings?
I was thinking the same Waynus, but being the cynics we all are on here I think we may just be over reacting ! Anyway, thank you Mr Brown, job well done in very difficult circumstances !! Up the Bantams !!
If Pepper is under contract, surely he shouldn't be allowed to leave until a replacement has been hired. Is this not business sense?
I don't want to sound like one of the 'doom brothers', but am I reading too much into the this morning's news stories relating to Brown &amp; Pepper?
Also, with regard to Pepper, one man doesn't make an academy. He can't be held solely responsible for the lack of talent being produced. The one thing I would say is that academies take a while to set up and start producing. When we were on the brink a few years ago, we ditched the youth team. How is that Pepper's fault that we had to start all over again? Have you seen the facilities at City's youth academy? It isn't a patch on Huddersfield's or our other neighbour's. Again, how is that Pepper's fault? I am sick of hearing everyone picking faults with our academy. It has only been operating a few seasons so needs to be given a few years to bed in. After all, a star in the making is going to sign for a club with good facilities, so we are not yet in a position to snap these players up.
Finally, we have produced a few good players over the past couple of years and these have been sold onto bigger clubs. The kids recently won a tournament in the USA and showed great promise. For the 3rd and last time, I will ask the same question; how is it Pepper's fault... that we keep selling the youth prospects?
Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
12:46pm Wed 14 May 08
I do not see how you can expect to have a first class youth set up within a fourth division club,thats a fact. If you had a talented lad would you want him to go to Bradford City. All change at Valley Parade, we only hear about the front of house staff leaving, what about the backroom staff. It's gone down and down and no I am and never have been one, always had a secure job.
Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
12:46pm Wed 14 May 08
I do not see how you can expect to have a first class youth set up within a fourth division club,thats a fact. If you had a talented lad would you want him to go to Bradford City. All change at Valley Parade, we only hear about the front of house staff leaving, what about the backroom staff. It's gone down and down and no I am and never have been one, always had a secure job.
Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
12:46pm Wed 14 May 08
I do not see how you can expect to have a first class youth set up within a fourth division club,thats a fact. If you had a talented lad would you want him to go to Bradford City. All change at Valley Parade, we only hear about the front of house staff leaving, what about the backroom staff. It's gone down and down and no I am and never have been one, always had a secure job.
BRADFORDSUNWIN, BRADFORD says...
2:13pm Wed 14 May 08
how do we get this crank Mr Sensible banned? His comments are always a waste of space and usually irellevant to the subject in hand!
BRADFORDSUNWIN, BRADFORD says...
2:13pm Wed 14 May 08
how do we get this crank Mr Sensible banned? His comments are always a waste of space and usually irellevant to the subject in hand!
BRADFORDSUNWIN, BRADFORD says...
2:13pm Wed 14 May 08
how do we get this crank Mr Sensible banned? His comments are always a waste of space and usually irellevant to the subject in hand!
jamesh, Thackley says...
3:44pm Wed 14 May 08
Keep on reporting his posts..
jamesh, Thackley says...
3:44pm Wed 14 May 08
Keep on reporting his posts..
jamesh, Thackley says...
3:44pm Wed 14 May 08
Keep on reporting his posts..
boparob, Bradford says...
4:05pm Wed 14 May 08
Or ignore him and stop taking the bait...
boparob, Bradford says...
4:05pm Wed 14 May 08
Or ignore him and stop taking the bait...
boparob, Bradford says...
4:05pm Wed 14 May 08
Or ignore him and stop taking the bait...
Henley B, Timbukthree says...
4:11pm Wed 14 May 08
We could do what Reckless has done? Leave the site completely and leave these pathetic inbred banjo players to play with themselves? Then the T & A might ban them? Boycott the site, go watch old City footage on Utube instead? Why don't we just go to a City forum where we can have a say on what is removed?
Henley B, Timbukthree says...
4:11pm Wed 14 May 08
We could do what Reckless has done? Leave the site completely and leave these pathetic inbred banjo players to play with themselves? Then the T & A might ban them? Boycott the site, go watch old City footage on Utube instead? Why don't we just go to a City forum where we can have a say on what is removed?
Henley B, Timbukthree says...
4:11pm Wed 14 May 08
We could do what Reckless has done? Leave the site completely and leave these pathetic inbred banjo players to play with themselves? Then the T & A might ban them? Boycott the site, go watch old City footage on Utube instead? Why don't we just go to a City forum where we can have a say on what is removed?
Banksy, Bingley says...
4:13pm Wed 14 May 08
jamesh wrote:On what grounds . . .
Keep on reporting his posts..
Banksy, Bingley says...
4:13pm Wed 14 May 08
jamesh wrote:On what grounds . . .
Keep on reporting his posts..
Banksy, Bingley says...
4:13pm Wed 14 May 08
jamesh wrote:On what grounds . . .
Keep on reporting his posts..
Waynus, Bradford 6 says...
4:52pm Wed 14 May 08
BRADFORDSUNWIN wrote:I ignore him and have suggested umpteen times for others to follow suit. However, you can't force people not to reply to his posts and unfortunately you will always get someone who will respond. The man is a wind-up merchant and is looking for a bite. Don't give him the chance to hook you in.
how do we get this crank Mr Sensible banned? His comments are always a waste of space and usually irellevant to the subject in hand!
All that said, I do actually agree with him on this one. We are a fourth division side with a newly established youth academy. Why should we expect to be pulling through a team of first teamers?Good academies take years to set up before they start bearing fruit. Ours has only been running (properly) for a couple of years. Look at Huddersfield's or Derby's for that matter. They don't produce overnight, it takes time.
If you had a son that had potential as a footballer, whould you send him to an established academy or let him go to another club, just because it is a club you love. Remember, there is your son't career at stake here if the wrong decision is made. That is why we are struggling to get a good academy started.
Our 'beloved friend' isn't wrong on this matter.
Waynus, Bradford 6 says...
4:52pm Wed 14 May 08
BRADFORDSUNWIN wrote:I ignore him and have suggested umpteen times for others to follow suit. However, you can't force people not to reply to his posts and unfortunately you will always get someone who will respond. The man is a wind-up merchant and is looking for a bite. Don't give him the chance to hook you in.
how do we get this crank Mr Sensible banned? His comments are always a waste of space and usually irellevant to the subject in hand!
All that said, I do actually agree with him on this one. We are a fourth division side with a newly established youth academy. Why should we expect to be pulling through a team of first teamers?Good academies take years to set up before they start bearing fruit. Ours has only been running (properly) for a couple of years. Look at Huddersfield's or Derby's for that matter. They don't produce overnight, it takes time.
If you had a son that had potential as a footballer, whould you send him to an established academy or let him go to another club, just because it is a club you love. Remember, there is your son't career at stake here if the wrong decision is made. That is why we are struggling to get a good academy started.
Our 'beloved friend' isn't wrong on this matter.
Waynus, Bradford 6 says...
4:52pm Wed 14 May 08
BRADFORDSUNWIN wrote:I ignore him and have suggested umpteen times for others to follow suit. However, you can't force people not to reply to his posts and unfortunately you will always get someone who will respond. The man is a wind-up merchant and is looking for a bite. Don't give him the chance to hook you in.
how do we get this crank Mr Sensible banned? His comments are always a waste of space and usually irellevant to the subject in hand!
All that said, I do actually agree with him on this one. We are a fourth division side with a newly established youth academy. Why should we expect to be pulling through a team of first teamers?Good academies take years to set up before they start bearing fruit. Ours has only been running (properly) for a couple of years. Look at Huddersfield's or Derby's for that matter. They don't produce overnight, it takes time.
If you had a son that had potential as a footballer, whould you send him to an established academy or let him go to another club, just because it is a club you love. Remember, there is your son't career at stake here if the wrong decision is made. That is why we are struggling to get a good academy started.
Our 'beloved friend' isn't wrong on this matter.
skippy, says...
5:18pm Wed 14 May 08
Waynus wrote:and hes not wrong most of the time
BRADFORDSUNWIN wrote: how do we get this crank Mr Sensible banned? His comments are always a waste of space and usually irellevant to the subject in hand!I ignore him and have suggested umpteen times for others to follow suit. However, you can't force people not to reply to his posts and unfortunately you will always get someone who will respond. The man is a wind-up merchant and is looking for a bite. Don't give him the chance to hook you in. All that said, I do actually agree with him on this one. We are a fourth division side with a newly established youth academy. Why should we expect to be pulling through a team of first teamers?Good academies take years to set up before they start bearing fruit. Ours has only been running (properly) for a couple of years. Look at Huddersfield's or Derby's for that matter. They don't produce overnight, it takes time. If you had a son that had potential as a footballer, whould you send him to an established academy or let him go to another club, just because it is a club you love. Remember, there is your son't career at stake here if the wrong decision is made. That is why we are struggling to get a good academy started. Our 'beloved friend' isn't wrong on this matter.
skippy, says...
5:18pm Wed 14 May 08
Waynus wrote:and hes not wrong most of the time
BRADFORDSUNWIN wrote: how do we get this crank Mr Sensible banned? His comments are always a waste of space and usually irellevant to the subject in hand!I ignore him and have suggested umpteen times for others to follow suit. However, you can't force people not to reply to his posts and unfortunately you will always get someone who will respond. The man is a wind-up merchant and is looking for a bite. Don't give him the chance to hook you in. All that said, I do actually agree with him on this one. We are a fourth division side with a newly established youth academy. Why should we expect to be pulling through a team of first teamers?Good academies take years to set up before they start bearing fruit. Ours has only been running (properly) for a couple of years. Look at Huddersfield's or Derby's for that matter. They don't produce overnight, it takes time. If you had a son that had potential as a footballer, whould you send him to an established academy or let him go to another club, just because it is a club you love. Remember, there is your son't career at stake here if the wrong decision is made. That is why we are struggling to get a good academy started. Our 'beloved friend' isn't wrong on this matter.
skippy, says...
5:18pm Wed 14 May 08
Waynus wrote:and hes not wrong most of the time
BRADFORDSUNWIN wrote: how do we get this crank Mr Sensible banned? His comments are always a waste of space and usually irellevant to the subject in hand!I ignore him and have suggested umpteen times for others to follow suit. However, you can't force people not to reply to his posts and unfortunately you will always get someone who will respond. The man is a wind-up merchant and is looking for a bite. Don't give him the chance to hook you in. All that said, I do actually agree with him on this one. We are a fourth division side with a newly established youth academy. Why should we expect to be pulling through a team of first teamers?Good academies take years to set up before they start bearing fruit. Ours has only been running (properly) for a couple of years. Look at Huddersfield's or Derby's for that matter. They don't produce overnight, it takes time. If you had a son that had potential as a footballer, whould you send him to an established academy or let him go to another club, just because it is a club you love. Remember, there is your son't career at stake here if the wrong decision is made. That is why we are struggling to get a good academy started. Our 'beloved friend' isn't wrong on this matter.
SHAUN, richmond says...
5:37pm Wed 14 May 08
BRADFORDSUNWIN wrote:Here we go with another "BAN" merchant.
how do we get this crank Mr Sensible banned? His comments are always a waste of space and usually irellevant to the subject in hand!
Free Country , if you dont like it try North Korea it would suit you down to the ground!!
SHAUN, richmond says...
5:37pm Wed 14 May 08
BRADFORDSUNWIN wrote:Here we go with another "BAN" merchant.
how do we get this crank Mr Sensible banned? His comments are always a waste of space and usually irellevant to the subject in hand!
Free Country , if you dont like it try North Korea it would suit you down to the ground!!
SHAUN, richmond says...
5:37pm Wed 14 May 08
BRADFORDSUNWIN wrote:Here we go with another "BAN" merchant.
how do we get this crank Mr Sensible banned? His comments are always a waste of space and usually irellevant to the subject in hand!
Free Country , if you dont like it try North Korea it would suit you down to the ground!!
Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
5:39pm Wed 14 May 08
Now then lads one or two of you seem to be seeing SENSE since I felt I had to get you to see how you are been taken in. You will have seen one or two moves from the Club since I first commented some four weeks ago. Now how would you like it if there was just A Chairman at City.
Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
5:39pm Wed 14 May 08
Now then lads one or two of you seem to be seeing SENSE since I felt I had to get you to see how you are been taken in. You will have seen one or two moves from the Club since I first commented some four weeks ago. Now how would you like it if there was just A Chairman at City.
Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
5:39pm Wed 14 May 08
Now then lads one or two of you seem to be seeing SENSE since I felt I had to get you to see how you are been taken in. You will have seen one or two moves from the Club since I first commented some four weeks ago. Now how would you like it if there was just A Chairman at City.
JM, Skipton says...
5:42pm Wed 14 May 08
Mr Sensible might be a wind up merchant looking for people to take his bait, but I canÂ’t help but feel angry when I read his posts.
Maybe IÂ’m wrong, but I always felt these boards should be used for City fans to have some intelligent debate and banter about City matters. Sure weÂ’re not always going to agree on everything and I have no problem with other fans arguing my points, but these boards have descended into poor unintelligent debate and name calling and itÂ’s depressing.
IÂ’m sure the powers that be at the T&A donÂ’t want it to be like this, but there is clearly no moderation. You can say itÂ’s all about opinions and itÂ’s wrong to silence people, but people like Sensible, Skippy and Shaun consistently make wild unsubstantiated allegations that they pass off as fact, without making any reasoned argument to back them up. ItÂ’s hardly democratic to consistently slander and abuse hard working individuals like Wayne Jacobs, Mark Lawn etc
To be honest IÂ’m in two minds over whether to keep viewing and commenting on these boards. It genuinely makes me angry reading SensibleÂ’s put downs on a football club I care about and IÂ’m sure my life will go on just as happily if I just read the T&A story and then click to another website before looking at the comments below it.
Maybe IÂ’m wrong, but I always felt these boards should be used for City fans to have some intelligent debate and banter about City matters. Sure weÂ’re not always going to agree on everything and I have no problem with other fans arguing my points, but these boards have descended into poor unintelligent debate and name calling and itÂ’s depressing.
IÂ’m sure the powers that be at the T&A donÂ’t want it to be like this, but there is clearly no moderation. You can say itÂ’s all about opinions and itÂ’s wrong to silence people, but people like Sensible, Skippy and Shaun consistently make wild unsubstantiated allegations that they pass off as fact, without making any reasoned argument to back them up. ItÂ’s hardly democratic to consistently slander and abuse hard working individuals like Wayne Jacobs, Mark Lawn etc
To be honest IÂ’m in two minds over whether to keep viewing and commenting on these boards. It genuinely makes me angry reading SensibleÂ’s put downs on a football club I care about and IÂ’m sure my life will go on just as happily if I just read the T&A story and then click to another website before looking at the comments below it.
JM, Skipton says...
5:42pm Wed 14 May 08
Mr Sensible might be a wind up merchant looking for people to take his bait, but I canÂ’t help but feel angry when I read his posts.
Maybe IÂ’m wrong, but I always felt these boards should be used for City fans to have some intelligent debate and banter about City matters. Sure weÂ’re not always going to agree on everything and I have no problem with other fans arguing my points, but these boards have descended into poor unintelligent debate and name calling and itÂ’s depressing.
IÂ’m sure the powers that be at the T&A donÂ’t want it to be like this, but there is clearly no moderation. You can say itÂ’s all about opinions and itÂ’s wrong to silence people, but people like Sensible, Skippy and Shaun consistently make wild unsubstantiated allegations that they pass off as fact, without making any reasoned argument to back them up. ItÂ’s hardly democratic to consistently slander and abuse hard working individuals like Wayne Jacobs, Mark Lawn etc
To be honest IÂ’m in two minds over whether to keep viewing and commenting on these boards. It genuinely makes me angry reading SensibleÂ’s put downs on a football club I care about and IÂ’m sure my life will go on just as happily if I just read the T&A story and then click to another website before looking at the comments below it.
Maybe IÂ’m wrong, but I always felt these boards should be used for City fans to have some intelligent debate and banter about City matters. Sure weÂ’re not always going to agree on everything and I have no problem with other fans arguing my points, but these boards have descended into poor unintelligent debate and name calling and itÂ’s depressing.
IÂ’m sure the powers that be at the T&A donÂ’t want it to be like this, but there is clearly no moderation. You can say itÂ’s all about opinions and itÂ’s wrong to silence people, but people like Sensible, Skippy and Shaun consistently make wild unsubstantiated allegations that they pass off as fact, without making any reasoned argument to back them up. ItÂ’s hardly democratic to consistently slander and abuse hard working individuals like Wayne Jacobs, Mark Lawn etc
To be honest IÂ’m in two minds over whether to keep viewing and commenting on these boards. It genuinely makes me angry reading SensibleÂ’s put downs on a football club I care about and IÂ’m sure my life will go on just as happily if I just read the T&A story and then click to another website before looking at the comments below it.
JM, Skipton says...
5:42pm Wed 14 May 08
Mr Sensible might be a wind up merchant looking for people to take his bait, but I canÂ’t help but feel angry when I read his posts.
Maybe IÂ’m wrong, but I always felt these boards should be used for City fans to have some intelligent debate and banter about City matters. Sure weÂ’re not always going to agree on everything and I have no problem with other fans arguing my points, but these boards have descended into poor unintelligent debate and name calling and itÂ’s depressing.
IÂ’m sure the powers that be at the T&A donÂ’t want it to be like this, but there is clearly no moderation. You can say itÂ’s all about opinions and itÂ’s wrong to silence people, but people like Sensible, Skippy and Shaun consistently make wild unsubstantiated allegations that they pass off as fact, without making any reasoned argument to back them up. ItÂ’s hardly democratic to consistently slander and abuse hard working individuals like Wayne Jacobs, Mark Lawn etc
To be honest IÂ’m in two minds over whether to keep viewing and commenting on these boards. It genuinely makes me angry reading SensibleÂ’s put downs on a football club I care about and IÂ’m sure my life will go on just as happily if I just read the T&A story and then click to another website before looking at the comments below it.
Maybe IÂ’m wrong, but I always felt these boards should be used for City fans to have some intelligent debate and banter about City matters. Sure weÂ’re not always going to agree on everything and I have no problem with other fans arguing my points, but these boards have descended into poor unintelligent debate and name calling and itÂ’s depressing.
IÂ’m sure the powers that be at the T&A donÂ’t want it to be like this, but there is clearly no moderation. You can say itÂ’s all about opinions and itÂ’s wrong to silence people, but people like Sensible, Skippy and Shaun consistently make wild unsubstantiated allegations that they pass off as fact, without making any reasoned argument to back them up. ItÂ’s hardly democratic to consistently slander and abuse hard working individuals like Wayne Jacobs, Mark Lawn etc
To be honest IÂ’m in two minds over whether to keep viewing and commenting on these boards. It genuinely makes me angry reading SensibleÂ’s put downs on a football club I care about and IÂ’m sure my life will go on just as happily if I just read the T&A story and then click to another website before looking at the comments below it.
Gentleman Jim, Yooohooo over here says...
5:52pm Wed 14 May 08
A couple of the posts above are right, and that is why the academy should have been set up instead of the white elephant of a ground we have,(a few youngsters sold for a million a time would have kept the academy floating and put funds into the clubs coffers too) but the fact remains that it is poor no matter how long it has been running.
Gentleman Jim, Yooohooo over here says...
5:52pm Wed 14 May 08
A couple of the posts above are right, and that is why the academy should have been set up instead of the white elephant of a ground we have,(a few youngsters sold for a million a time would have kept the academy floating and put funds into the clubs coffers too) but the fact remains that it is poor no matter how long it has been running.
Gentleman Jim, Yooohooo over here says...
5:52pm Wed 14 May 08
A couple of the posts above are right, and that is why the academy should have been set up instead of the white elephant of a ground we have,(a few youngsters sold for a million a time would have kept the academy floating and put funds into the clubs coffers too) but the fact remains that it is poor no matter how long it has been running.
Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
7:32pm Wed 14 May 08
JM Skipton. Sorry you are feeling a little depressed but this site is not just for positive (?) comments.The truth is the truth even if it hurts. In respect of you being in two minds I would suggest that you make this your priority and sort your health out first.
Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
7:32pm Wed 14 May 08
JM Skipton. Sorry you are feeling a little depressed but this site is not just for positive (?) comments.The truth is the truth even if it hurts. In respect of you being in two minds I would suggest that you make this your priority and sort your health out first.
Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
7:32pm Wed 14 May 08
JM Skipton. Sorry you are feeling a little depressed but this site is not just for positive (?) comments.The truth is the truth even if it hurts. In respect of you being in two minds I would suggest that you make this your priority and sort your health out first.
Globalman, Keighley says...
10:43pm Wed 14 May 08
Mr.Sensible,
What exactly are you wanting to achieve with your non positive posts?
Does it make you feel better to reveal your 'inside knowledge' to all and sundry?
what exactly is your 'goal'?
Just want to know that's all.
What exactly are you wanting to achieve with your non positive posts?
Does it make you feel better to reveal your 'inside knowledge' to all and sundry?
what exactly is your 'goal'?
Just want to know that's all.
Globalman, Keighley says...
10:43pm Wed 14 May 08
Mr.Sensible,
What exactly are you wanting to achieve with your non positive posts?
Does it make you feel better to reveal your 'inside knowledge' to all and sundry?
what exactly is your 'goal'?
Just want to know that's all.
What exactly are you wanting to achieve with your non positive posts?
Does it make you feel better to reveal your 'inside knowledge' to all and sundry?
what exactly is your 'goal'?
Just want to know that's all.
Globalman, Keighley says...
10:43pm Wed 14 May 08
Mr.Sensible,
What exactly are you wanting to achieve with your non positive posts?
Does it make you feel better to reveal your 'inside knowledge' to all and sundry?
what exactly is your 'goal'?
Just want to know that's all.
What exactly are you wanting to achieve with your non positive posts?
Does it make you feel better to reveal your 'inside knowledge' to all and sundry?
what exactly is your 'goal'?
Just want to know that's all.
Henley B, Timbukthree says...
12:12am Thu 15 May 08
Mr Sensible wrote:Mr Sensible, I'd be bored without your wisdom on here hahah.
JM Skipton. Sorry you are feeling a little depressed but this site is not just for positive (?) comments.The truth is the truth even if it hurts. In respect of you being in two minds I would suggest that you make this your priority and sort your health out first.
Now that's actually about as truthful as any of the garbage you produce.
Seriously, no one on here would deny you your say in regards to what you call 'the truth' if you were man (or woman?) enough to back up your points with a reasonable explanation. You are asked constantly to do so, but then it all becomes a little too difficult for you. I suggest you would get a great deal of respect if you could at least back up your 'claims' and accusations with FACT! You insinuated you were in the legal profession on another post.... if that is the case you should be good at this.... or do you just sit behind your desk playing with yourself whilst raking in free money by defending the criminals you appear to have lowered yourself to? Please tell....
Henley B, Timbukthree says...
12:12am Thu 15 May 08
Mr Sensible wrote:Mr Sensible, I'd be bored without your wisdom on here hahah.
JM Skipton. Sorry you are feeling a little depressed but this site is not just for positive (?) comments.The truth is the truth even if it hurts. In respect of you being in two minds I would suggest that you make this your priority and sort your health out first.
Now that's actually about as truthful as any of the garbage you produce.
Seriously, no one on here would deny you your say in regards to what you call 'the truth' if you were man (or woman?) enough to back up your points with a reasonable explanation. You are asked constantly to do so, but then it all becomes a little too difficult for you. I suggest you would get a great deal of respect if you could at least back up your 'claims' and accusations with FACT! You insinuated you were in the legal profession on another post.... if that is the case you should be good at this.... or do you just sit behind your desk playing with yourself whilst raking in free money by defending the criminals you appear to have lowered yourself to? Please tell....
Henley B, Timbukthree says...
12:12am Thu 15 May 08
Mr Sensible wrote:Mr Sensible, I'd be bored without your wisdom on here hahah.
JM Skipton. Sorry you are feeling a little depressed but this site is not just for positive (?) comments.The truth is the truth even if it hurts. In respect of you being in two minds I would suggest that you make this your priority and sort your health out first.
Now that's actually about as truthful as any of the garbage you produce.
Seriously, no one on here would deny you your say in regards to what you call 'the truth' if you were man (or woman?) enough to back up your points with a reasonable explanation. You are asked constantly to do so, but then it all becomes a little too difficult for you. I suggest you would get a great deal of respect if you could at least back up your 'claims' and accusations with FACT! You insinuated you were in the legal profession on another post.... if that is the case you should be good at this.... or do you just sit behind your desk playing with yourself whilst raking in free money by defending the criminals you appear to have lowered yourself to? Please tell....
big neil, bury says...
7:49am Thu 15 May 08
interesting comment about youth set ups Mr Sensible but it really shows your lack of knowledge of football Crewe are a fine example of producing young footballers who go on to greater things and they are hardly the most fashionable club in the league look at how many young players are being bought by the priemer league teams joe ledley at cardiff £5 million for a 17 year old theo walcott £8 million at 16 ramsey at cardiff another one the list goes on if the youth team produces people are more inclined to go there to further their careers and city have done it in the past and will do it again remember a certain young ginger haired tiger wonder what happened to him ah yes went on to play for everton rangers and scotland and big ian went to aston villa and these were lads who joined a lower league set up when they were kids anyway back to the thread well done Mr Brown thank you for your time and effort
big neil, bury says...
7:49am Thu 15 May 08
interesting comment about youth set ups Mr Sensible but it really shows your lack of knowledge of football Crewe are a fine example of producing young footballers who go on to greater things and they are hardly the most fashionable club in the league look at how many young players are being bought by the priemer league teams joe ledley at cardiff £5 million for a 17 year old theo walcott £8 million at 16 ramsey at cardiff another one the list goes on if the youth team produces people are more inclined to go there to further their careers and city have done it in the past and will do it again remember a certain young ginger haired tiger wonder what happened to him ah yes went on to play for everton rangers and scotland and big ian went to aston villa and these were lads who joined a lower league set up when they were kids anyway back to the thread well done Mr Brown thank you for your time and effort
big neil, bury says...
7:49am Thu 15 May 08
interesting comment about youth set ups Mr Sensible but it really shows your lack of knowledge of football Crewe are a fine example of producing young footballers who go on to greater things and they are hardly the most fashionable club in the league look at how many young players are being bought by the priemer league teams joe ledley at cardiff £5 million for a 17 year old theo walcott £8 million at 16 ramsey at cardiff another one the list goes on if the youth team produces people are more inclined to go there to further their careers and city have done it in the past and will do it again remember a certain young ginger haired tiger wonder what happened to him ah yes went on to play for everton rangers and scotland and big ian went to aston villa and these were lads who joined a lower league set up when they were kids anyway back to the thread well done Mr Brown thank you for your time and effort
Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
8:54am Thu 15 May 08
Big neil, Fully agree but look at the league tables and see where Crewe are. A First Div Club, more prospects. You cannot go against league positions and you cannot disagree that City are in decline. When were they in a worse league position?
Mr Sensible, Bingley says...
8:54am Thu 15 May 08
Big neil, Fully agree but look at the league tables and see where Crewe are. A First Div Club, more prospects. You cannot go against league positions and you cannot disagree that City are in decline. When were they in a worse league position?
EVO, Brands says...
7:55am Tue 13 May 08