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A City teenage starlet has won a dream move to Liverpool.
Andre Wisdom, 14, has joined the Anfield giants in a deal that could prove to be a real money-spinner for the club.
Liverpool have paid an undisclosed fee for the hugely-promising youngster but the T&A understands City will receive a payment up front with further substantial amounts relating to his progress.
Another City youth player is also attracting serious interest from the Premier League, underlining the success of the hard work being put in to the Valley Parade production line.
Youth development officer Peter Horne said: "It's brilliant that what we're doing here is being recognised by clubs at higher levels.
"As far as League Two goes, there's not another club in this division that has had the compensation for youth players that we've received.
"I signed Andre from local junior football and he has just progressed all the time he's been with us.
"We've played him a year up all the time because of his ability. He was playing with the under-15s this season.
"We're very pleased with how far he's come and wish him all the best with this fantastic opportunity."
Joint-chairman Mark Lawn said the deal was a feather in the cap for the City youth structure.
He said: "It's evidence that we've started to produce good youth. This time three years ago it wouldn't have happened, so we must be doing something right.
"Clubs are looking round all over for talent and they've seen what we are producing here.
"Andre wanted to move on and it's a great chance for the lad, so we couldn't hold him back, but if he doesn't make it at Liverpool he's said he will return."
City's youth department have further reason to celebrate after the under-13s returned triumphant from America.
The Bantams side won the Fort Lowell shoot-out in Arizona, rattling in 21 goals in their four games.
City stuffed TMSFC Alliance Gold 6-0 and New Mexico Rush Coyotes 6-1, a match shown live on the internet, to top their group.
The following day they beat Tucson Soccer Academy 1-0 in the last four before another goal rush in the final saw them blast Tanque Verde 8-2.
RaulRaj, Singapore says...
6:48am Thu 24 Jan 08
RaulRaj, Singapore says...
6:48am Thu 24 Jan 08
RaulRaj, Singapore says...
6:48am Thu 24 Jan 08
The Bradford Bugler, Bradford says...
8:39am Thu 24 Jan 08
The Bradford Bugler, Bradford says...
8:39am Thu 24 Jan 08
The Bradford Bugler, Bradford says...
8:39am Thu 24 Jan 08
The Bradford Bugler, Bradford says...
8:39am Thu 24 Jan 08
Sydney Bantam, Sydney says...
8:43am Thu 24 Jan 08
RaulRaj wrote:Whats all that about?
I shall not begin with my emotional affiliations with LFC throughout my lifetime. We all are. A financial boycott of products just for the time being may not be the best solution but can be a small measure of a start. In the long run it would still hurt LFC with Hick/Gillett only out for financial gains. I can also forsee them offloading any player whom they deem fit to reap profits. That can include Gerrard and Torres. I would like to propose that, as Hicks seemingly is only a businessman and never a fan of anyone, and that he probably didn't know that in the EPL the football is round, and that his primary interests are elsewhere, he'd only realise the gravity of the situation here at LFC if the worst happens right in the heart of his interests. That refers to Texas Rangers and the Dallas Stars. This boycott should extend all the way across the atlantic to minimise the effect on LFC itself as a club. I do not know much about these two teams, but a simple search does provide some clues, and their rivals are pivotal in bringing the message across as they would love to undermine their bitter rivals in any way possible. I can declare to be anti-Texas Rangers and anti-Dallas Stars, and any rival team is a friendly figure. Whatever happens on the ground at Liverpool doesn't affect him much while sitting in the Sates as much as it does affect me as far as here in Singapore, and although the media is far stretching, we need to bring his undoings straight into his backyard; his homeland. He deserves to be HIT where it hurts. The banks have been hesitant with the loans as they need assurances with their assets, but they also do know that LFC is not a small club. They know there would be ready buyers should the club make losses. (touchwood) And if Hicks is to use his assets back home as collateral, then these assets must be placed under a doubtful shadow. For that to happen, there must be negative sentiments in place for all his other assets and ventures. Its a totally different Ball-Game, and its a long shot, but collectively and in a short period, the voices of the fans of LiverpoolFC would be heard, and that would make the difference. RaulRaj, 35 Singapore
Sydney Bantam, Sydney says...
8:43am Thu 24 Jan 08
RaulRaj wrote:Whats all that about?
I shall not begin with my emotional affiliations with LFC throughout my lifetime. We all are. A financial boycott of products just for the time being may not be the best solution but can be a small measure of a start. In the long run it would still hurt LFC with Hick/Gillett only out for financial gains. I can also forsee them offloading any player whom they deem fit to reap profits. That can include Gerrard and Torres. I would like to propose that, as Hicks seemingly is only a businessman and never a fan of anyone, and that he probably didn't know that in the EPL the football is round, and that his primary interests are elsewhere, he'd only realise the gravity of the situation here at LFC if the worst happens right in the heart of his interests. That refers to Texas Rangers and the Dallas Stars. This boycott should extend all the way across the atlantic to minimise the effect on LFC itself as a club. I do not know much about these two teams, but a simple search does provide some clues, and their rivals are pivotal in bringing the message across as they would love to undermine their bitter rivals in any way possible. I can declare to be anti-Texas Rangers and anti-Dallas Stars, and any rival team is a friendly figure. Whatever happens on the ground at Liverpool doesn't affect him much while sitting in the Sates as much as it does affect me as far as here in Singapore, and although the media is far stretching, we need to bring his undoings straight into his backyard; his homeland. He deserves to be HIT where it hurts. The banks have been hesitant with the loans as they need assurances with their assets, but they also do know that LFC is not a small club. They know there would be ready buyers should the club make losses. (touchwood) And if Hicks is to use his assets back home as collateral, then these assets must be placed under a doubtful shadow. For that to happen, there must be negative sentiments in place for all his other assets and ventures. Its a totally different Ball-Game, and its a long shot, but collectively and in a short period, the voices of the fans of LiverpoolFC would be heard, and that would make the difference. RaulRaj, 35 Singapore
Sydney Bantam, Sydney says...
8:43am Thu 24 Jan 08
RaulRaj wrote:Whats all that about?
I shall not begin with my emotional affiliations with LFC throughout my lifetime. We all are. A financial boycott of products just for the time being may not be the best solution but can be a small measure of a start. In the long run it would still hurt LFC with Hick/Gillett only out for financial gains. I can also forsee them offloading any player whom they deem fit to reap profits. That can include Gerrard and Torres. I would like to propose that, as Hicks seemingly is only a businessman and never a fan of anyone, and that he probably didn't know that in the EPL the football is round, and that his primary interests are elsewhere, he'd only realise the gravity of the situation here at LFC if the worst happens right in the heart of his interests. That refers to Texas Rangers and the Dallas Stars. This boycott should extend all the way across the atlantic to minimise the effect on LFC itself as a club. I do not know much about these two teams, but a simple search does provide some clues, and their rivals are pivotal in bringing the message across as they would love to undermine their bitter rivals in any way possible. I can declare to be anti-Texas Rangers and anti-Dallas Stars, and any rival team is a friendly figure. Whatever happens on the ground at Liverpool doesn't affect him much while sitting in the Sates as much as it does affect me as far as here in Singapore, and although the media is far stretching, we need to bring his undoings straight into his backyard; his homeland. He deserves to be HIT where it hurts. The banks have been hesitant with the loans as they need assurances with their assets, but they also do know that LFC is not a small club. They know there would be ready buyers should the club make losses. (touchwood) And if Hicks is to use his assets back home as collateral, then these assets must be placed under a doubtful shadow. For that to happen, there must be negative sentiments in place for all his other assets and ventures. Its a totally different Ball-Game, and its a long shot, but collectively and in a short period, the voices of the fans of LiverpoolFC would be heard, and that would make the difference. RaulRaj, 35 Singapore
Sydney Bantam, Sydney says...
8:43am Thu 24 Jan 08
RaulRaj wrote:Whats all that about?
I shall not begin with my emotional affiliations with LFC throughout my lifetime. We all are. A financial boycott of products just for the time being may not be the best solution but can be a small measure of a start. In the long run it would still hurt LFC with Hick/Gillett only out for financial gains. I can also forsee them offloading any player whom they deem fit to reap profits. That can include Gerrard and Torres. I would like to propose that, as Hicks seemingly is only a businessman and never a fan of anyone, and that he probably didn't know that in the EPL the football is round, and that his primary interests are elsewhere, he'd only realise the gravity of the situation here at LFC if the worst happens right in the heart of his interests. That refers to Texas Rangers and the Dallas Stars. This boycott should extend all the way across the atlantic to minimise the effect on LFC itself as a club. I do not know much about these two teams, but a simple search does provide some clues, and their rivals are pivotal in bringing the message across as they would love to undermine their bitter rivals in any way possible. I can declare to be anti-Texas Rangers and anti-Dallas Stars, and any rival team is a friendly figure. Whatever happens on the ground at Liverpool doesn't affect him much while sitting in the Sates as much as it does affect me as far as here in Singapore, and although the media is far stretching, we need to bring his undoings straight into his backyard; his homeland. He deserves to be HIT where it hurts. The banks have been hesitant with the loans as they need assurances with their assets, but they also do know that LFC is not a small club. They know there would be ready buyers should the club make losses. (touchwood) And if Hicks is to use his assets back home as collateral, then these assets must be placed under a doubtful shadow. For that to happen, there must be negative sentiments in place for all his other assets and ventures. Its a totally different Ball-Game, and its a long shot, but collectively and in a short period, the voices of the fans of LiverpoolFC would be heard, and that would make the difference. RaulRaj, 35 Singapore
utters, Skipton says...
8:44am Thu 24 Jan 08
RaulRaj wrote:What the heck has all this got to do with a young lad wanting to further his football career?
I shall not begin with my emotional affiliations with LFC throughout my lifetime. We all are. A financial boycott of products just for the time being may not be the best solution but can be a small measure of a start. In the long run it would still hurt LFC with Hick/Gillett only out for financial gains. I can also forsee them offloading any player whom they deem fit to reap profits. That can include Gerrard and Torres. I would like to propose that, as Hicks seemingly is only a businessman and never a fan of anyone, and that he probably didn't know that in the EPL the football is round, and that his primary interests are elsewhere, he'd only realise the gravity of the situation here at LFC if the worst happens right in the heart of his interests. That refers to Texas Rangers and the Dallas Stars. This boycott should extend all the way across the atlantic to minimise the effect on LFC itself as a club. I do not know much about these two teams, but a simple search does provide some clues, and their rivals are pivotal in bringing the message across as they would love to undermine their bitter rivals in any way possible. I can declare to be anti-Texas Rangers and anti-Dallas Stars, and any rival team is a friendly figure. Whatever happens on the ground at Liverpool doesn't affect him much while sitting in the Sates as much as it does affect me as far as here in Singapore, and although the media is far stretching, we need to bring his undoings straight into his backyard; his homeland. He deserves to be HIT where it hurts. The banks have been hesitant with the loans as they need assurances with their assets, but they also do know that LFC is not a small club. They know there would be ready buyers should the club make losses. (touchwood) And if Hicks is to use his assets back home as collateral, then these assets must be placed under a doubtful shadow. For that to happen, there must be negative sentiments in place for all his other assets and ventures. Its a totally different Ball-Game, and its a long shot, but collectively and in a short period, the voices of the fans of LiverpoolFC would be heard, and that would make the difference. RaulRaj, 35 Singapore
utters, Skipton says...
8:44am Thu 24 Jan 08
RaulRaj wrote:What the heck has all this got to do with a young lad wanting to further his football career?
I shall not begin with my emotional affiliations with LFC throughout my lifetime. We all are. A financial boycott of products just for the time being may not be the best solution but can be a small measure of a start. In the long run it would still hurt LFC with Hick/Gillett only out for financial gains. I can also forsee them offloading any player whom they deem fit to reap profits. That can include Gerrard and Torres. I would like to propose that, as Hicks seemingly is only a businessman and never a fan of anyone, and that he probably didn't know that in the EPL the football is round, and that his primary interests are elsewhere, he'd only realise the gravity of the situation here at LFC if the worst happens right in the heart of his interests. That refers to Texas Rangers and the Dallas Stars. This boycott should extend all the way across the atlantic to minimise the effect on LFC itself as a club. I do not know much about these two teams, but a simple search does provide some clues, and their rivals are pivotal in bringing the message across as they would love to undermine their bitter rivals in any way possible. I can declare to be anti-Texas Rangers and anti-Dallas Stars, and any rival team is a friendly figure. Whatever happens on the ground at Liverpool doesn't affect him much while sitting in the Sates as much as it does affect me as far as here in Singapore, and although the media is far stretching, we need to bring his undoings straight into his backyard; his homeland. He deserves to be HIT where it hurts. The banks have been hesitant with the loans as they need assurances with their assets, but they also do know that LFC is not a small club. They know there would be ready buyers should the club make losses. (touchwood) And if Hicks is to use his assets back home as collateral, then these assets must be placed under a doubtful shadow. For that to happen, there must be negative sentiments in place for all his other assets and ventures. Its a totally different Ball-Game, and its a long shot, but collectively and in a short period, the voices of the fans of LiverpoolFC would be heard, and that would make the difference. RaulRaj, 35 Singapore
utters, Skipton says...
8:44am Thu 24 Jan 08
RaulRaj wrote:What the heck has all this got to do with a young lad wanting to further his football career?
I shall not begin with my emotional affiliations with LFC throughout my lifetime. We all are. A financial boycott of products just for the time being may not be the best solution but can be a small measure of a start. In the long run it would still hurt LFC with Hick/Gillett only out for financial gains. I can also forsee them offloading any player whom they deem fit to reap profits. That can include Gerrard and Torres. I would like to propose that, as Hicks seemingly is only a businessman and never a fan of anyone, and that he probably didn't know that in the EPL the football is round, and that his primary interests are elsewhere, he'd only realise the gravity of the situation here at LFC if the worst happens right in the heart of his interests. That refers to Texas Rangers and the Dallas Stars. This boycott should extend all the way across the atlantic to minimise the effect on LFC itself as a club. I do not know much about these two teams, but a simple search does provide some clues, and their rivals are pivotal in bringing the message across as they would love to undermine their bitter rivals in any way possible. I can declare to be anti-Texas Rangers and anti-Dallas Stars, and any rival team is a friendly figure. Whatever happens on the ground at Liverpool doesn't affect him much while sitting in the Sates as much as it does affect me as far as here in Singapore, and although the media is far stretching, we need to bring his undoings straight into his backyard; his homeland. He deserves to be HIT where it hurts. The banks have been hesitant with the loans as they need assurances with their assets, but they also do know that LFC is not a small club. They know there would be ready buyers should the club make losses. (touchwood) And if Hicks is to use his assets back home as collateral, then these assets must be placed under a doubtful shadow. For that to happen, there must be negative sentiments in place for all his other assets and ventures. Its a totally different Ball-Game, and its a long shot, but collectively and in a short period, the voices of the fans of LiverpoolFC would be heard, and that would make the difference. RaulRaj, 35 Singapore
utters, Skipton says...
8:44am Thu 24 Jan 08
RaulRaj wrote:What the heck has all this got to do with a young lad wanting to further his football career?
I shall not begin with my emotional affiliations with LFC throughout my lifetime. We all are. A financial boycott of products just for the time being may not be the best solution but can be a small measure of a start. In the long run it would still hurt LFC with Hick/Gillett only out for financial gains. I can also forsee them offloading any player whom they deem fit to reap profits. That can include Gerrard and Torres. I would like to propose that, as Hicks seemingly is only a businessman and never a fan of anyone, and that he probably didn't know that in the EPL the football is round, and that his primary interests are elsewhere, he'd only realise the gravity of the situation here at LFC if the worst happens right in the heart of his interests. That refers to Texas Rangers and the Dallas Stars. This boycott should extend all the way across the atlantic to minimise the effect on LFC itself as a club. I do not know much about these two teams, but a simple search does provide some clues, and their rivals are pivotal in bringing the message across as they would love to undermine their bitter rivals in any way possible. I can declare to be anti-Texas Rangers and anti-Dallas Stars, and any rival team is a friendly figure. Whatever happens on the ground at Liverpool doesn't affect him much while sitting in the Sates as much as it does affect me as far as here in Singapore, and although the media is far stretching, we need to bring his undoings straight into his backyard; his homeland. He deserves to be HIT where it hurts. The banks have been hesitant with the loans as they need assurances with their assets, but they also do know that LFC is not a small club. They know there would be ready buyers should the club make losses. (touchwood) And if Hicks is to use his assets back home as collateral, then these assets must be placed under a doubtful shadow. For that to happen, there must be negative sentiments in place for all his other assets and ventures. Its a totally different Ball-Game, and its a long shot, but collectively and in a short period, the voices of the fans of LiverpoolFC would be heard, and that would make the difference. RaulRaj, 35 Singapore
JM, Skipton says...
8:45am Thu 24 Jan 08
The Bradford Bugler wrote:for goodness sake, he's a 14 year old kid. no disrespect but there are no guarantees he will make it at Liverpool, or that he ever would at City. It does not make us a feeder club or, by your logic, some of the youngsters we snap up from premiership clubs (eg Medley)makes them feeder clubs of ours.
Very eloquent RaulRaj and you have my sympathies. However, I don't understand what your post has to do with Bradford City losing a promising youngster to Liverpool. City might be celebrating the success of their youth set up, but what's the point if all the talent is going to get snapped up before they've even tasted first team football at Valley Parade? It's now official - we are a feeder club for Liverpool and anyone else who wants to come and plunder the youth we are producing.
JM, Skipton says...
8:45am Thu 24 Jan 08
The Bradford Bugler wrote:for goodness sake, he's a 14 year old kid. no disrespect but there are no guarantees he will make it at Liverpool, or that he ever would at City. It does not make us a feeder club or, by your logic, some of the youngsters we snap up from premiership clubs (eg Medley)makes them feeder clubs of ours.
Very eloquent RaulRaj and you have my sympathies. However, I don't understand what your post has to do with Bradford City losing a promising youngster to Liverpool. City might be celebrating the success of their youth set up, but what's the point if all the talent is going to get snapped up before they've even tasted first team football at Valley Parade? It's now official - we are a feeder club for Liverpool and anyone else who wants to come and plunder the youth we are producing.
JM, Skipton says...
8:45am Thu 24 Jan 08
The Bradford Bugler wrote:for goodness sake, he's a 14 year old kid. no disrespect but there are no guarantees he will make it at Liverpool, or that he ever would at City. It does not make us a feeder club or, by your logic, some of the youngsters we snap up from premiership clubs (eg Medley)makes them feeder clubs of ours.
Very eloquent RaulRaj and you have my sympathies. However, I don't understand what your post has to do with Bradford City losing a promising youngster to Liverpool. City might be celebrating the success of their youth set up, but what's the point if all the talent is going to get snapped up before they've even tasted first team football at Valley Parade? It's now official - we are a feeder club for Liverpool and anyone else who wants to come and plunder the youth we are producing.
JM, Skipton says...
8:45am Thu 24 Jan 08
The Bradford Bugler wrote:for goodness sake, he's a 14 year old kid. no disrespect but there are no guarantees he will make it at Liverpool, or that he ever would at City. It does not make us a feeder club or, by your logic, some of the youngsters we snap up from premiership clubs (eg Medley)makes them feeder clubs of ours.
Very eloquent RaulRaj and you have my sympathies. However, I don't understand what your post has to do with Bradford City losing a promising youngster to Liverpool. City might be celebrating the success of their youth set up, but what's the point if all the talent is going to get snapped up before they've even tasted first team football at Valley Parade? It's now official - we are a feeder club for Liverpool and anyone else who wants to come and plunder the youth we are producing.
The Bradford Bugler, Bradford says...
9:04am Thu 24 Jan 08
JM wrote:Sorry, I thought that City are strapped for cash and the whole point of setting up a youth academy, call iit what you want, was to produce home grown players without the need to keep signing two bit loan players all the time in the future.
The Bradford Bugler wrote: Very eloquent RaulRaj and you have my sympathies. However, I don't understand what your post has to do with Bradford City losing a promising youngster to Liverpool. City might be celebrating the success of their youth set up, but what's the point if all the talent is going to get snapped up before they've even tasted first team football at Valley Parade? It's now official - we are a feeder club for Liverpool and anyone else who wants to come and plunder the youth we are producing.for goodness sake, he's a 14 year old kid. no disrespect but there are no guarantees he will make it at Liverpool, or that he ever would at City. It does not make us a feeder club or, by your logic, some of the youngsters we snap up from premiership clubs (eg Medley)makes them feeder clubs of ours. At the end of the day our youth set up has just helped us earn a decent amount of money for a player who may never make it. That has to be good news for us. good luck to the kid and I hope he makes it, but I don't see why we have any compliants.
The Bradford Bugler, Bradford says...
9:04am Thu 24 Jan 08
JM wrote:Sorry, I thought that City are strapped for cash and the whole point of setting up a youth academy, call iit what you want, was to produce home grown players without the need to keep signing two bit loan players all the time in the future.
The Bradford Bugler wrote: Very eloquent RaulRaj and you have my sympathies. However, I don't understand what your post has to do with Bradford City losing a promising youngster to Liverpool. City might be celebrating the success of their youth set up, but what's the point if all the talent is going to get snapped up before they've even tasted first team football at Valley Parade? It's now official - we are a feeder club for Liverpool and anyone else who wants to come and plunder the youth we are producing.for goodness sake, he's a 14 year old kid. no disrespect but there are no guarantees he will make it at Liverpool, or that he ever would at City. It does not make us a feeder club or, by your logic, some of the youngsters we snap up from premiership clubs (eg Medley)makes them feeder clubs of ours. At the end of the day our youth set up has just helped us earn a decent amount of money for a player who may never make it. That has to be good news for us. good luck to the kid and I hope he makes it, but I don't see why we have any compliants.
The Bradford Bugler, Bradford says...
9:04am Thu 24 Jan 08
JM wrote:Sorry, I thought that City are strapped for cash and the whole point of setting up a youth academy, call iit what you want, was to produce home grown players without the need to keep signing two bit loan players all the time in the future.
The Bradford Bugler wrote: Very eloquent RaulRaj and you have my sympathies. However, I don't understand what your post has to do with Bradford City losing a promising youngster to Liverpool. City might be celebrating the success of their youth set up, but what's the point if all the talent is going to get snapped up before they've even tasted first team football at Valley Parade? It's now official - we are a feeder club for Liverpool and anyone else who wants to come and plunder the youth we are producing.for goodness sake, he's a 14 year old kid. no disrespect but there are no guarantees he will make it at Liverpool, or that he ever would at City. It does not make us a feeder club or, by your logic, some of the youngsters we snap up from premiership clubs (eg Medley)makes them feeder clubs of ours. At the end of the day our youth set up has just helped us earn a decent amount of money for a player who may never make it. That has to be good news for us. good luck to the kid and I hope he makes it, but I don't see why we have any compliants.
The Bradford Bugler, Bradford says...
9:04am Thu 24 Jan 08
JM wrote:Sorry, I thought that City are strapped for cash and the whole point of setting up a youth academy, call iit what you want, was to produce home grown players without the need to keep signing two bit loan players all the time in the future.
The Bradford Bugler wrote: Very eloquent RaulRaj and you have my sympathies. However, I don't understand what your post has to do with Bradford City losing a promising youngster to Liverpool. City might be celebrating the success of their youth set up, but what's the point if all the talent is going to get snapped up before they've even tasted first team football at Valley Parade? It's now official - we are a feeder club for Liverpool and anyone else who wants to come and plunder the youth we are producing.for goodness sake, he's a 14 year old kid. no disrespect but there are no guarantees he will make it at Liverpool, or that he ever would at City. It does not make us a feeder club or, by your logic, some of the youngsters we snap up from premiership clubs (eg Medley)makes them feeder clubs of ours. At the end of the day our youth set up has just helped us earn a decent amount of money for a player who may never make it. That has to be good news for us. good luck to the kid and I hope he makes it, but I don't see why we have any compliants.
tyker, midland road says...
9:24am Thu 24 Jan 08
tyker, midland road says...
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tyker, midland road says...
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tyker, midland road says...
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JOHNBOYES2, BRADFORD says...
9:53am Thu 24 Jan 08
JOHNBOYES2, BRADFORD says...
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JOHNBOYES2, BRADFORD says...
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JOHNBOYES2, BRADFORD says...
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shaun, richmond says...
10:18am Thu 24 Jan 08
The Bradford Bugler wrote:Spot on mate!!
JM wrote:Sorry, I thought that City are strapped for cash and the whole point of setting up a youth academy, call iit what you want, was to produce home grown players without the need to keep signing two bit loan players all the time in the future. "A decent amount of money". I don't see any mention of an actual figure!The Bradford Bugler wrote: Very eloquent RaulRaj and you have my sympathies. However, I don't understand what your post has to do with Bradford City losing a promising youngster to Liverpool. City might be celebrating the success of their youth set up, but what's the point if all the talent is going to get snapped up before they've even tasted first team football at Valley Parade? It's now official - we are a feeder club for Liverpool and anyone else who wants to come and plunder the youth we are producing.for goodness sake, he's a 14 year old kid. no disrespect but there are no guarantees he will make it at Liverpool, or that he ever would at City. It does not make us a feeder club or, by your logic, some of the youngsters we snap up from premiership clubs (eg Medley)makes them feeder clubs of ours. At the end of the day our youth set up has just helped us earn a decent amount of money for a player who may never make it. That has to be good news for us. good luck to the kid and I hope he makes it, but I don't see why we have any compliants.
shaun, richmond says...
10:18am Thu 24 Jan 08
The Bradford Bugler wrote:Spot on mate!!
JM wrote:Sorry, I thought that City are strapped for cash and the whole point of setting up a youth academy, call iit what you want, was to produce home grown players without the need to keep signing two bit loan players all the time in the future. "A decent amount of money". I don't see any mention of an actual figure!The Bradford Bugler wrote: Very eloquent RaulRaj and you have my sympathies. However, I don't understand what your post has to do with Bradford City losing a promising youngster to Liverpool. City might be celebrating the success of their youth set up, but what's the point if all the talent is going to get snapped up before they've even tasted first team football at Valley Parade? It's now official - we are a feeder club for Liverpool and anyone else who wants to come and plunder the youth we are producing.for goodness sake, he's a 14 year old kid. no disrespect but there are no guarantees he will make it at Liverpool, or that he ever would at City. It does not make us a feeder club or, by your logic, some of the youngsters we snap up from premiership clubs (eg Medley)makes them feeder clubs of ours. At the end of the day our youth set up has just helped us earn a decent amount of money for a player who may never make it. That has to be good news for us. good luck to the kid and I hope he makes it, but I don't see why we have any compliants.
shaun, richmond says...
10:18am Thu 24 Jan 08
The Bradford Bugler wrote:Spot on mate!!
JM wrote:Sorry, I thought that City are strapped for cash and the whole point of setting up a youth academy, call iit what you want, was to produce home grown players without the need to keep signing two bit loan players all the time in the future. "A decent amount of money". I don't see any mention of an actual figure!The Bradford Bugler wrote: Very eloquent RaulRaj and you have my sympathies. However, I don't understand what your post has to do with Bradford City losing a promising youngster to Liverpool. City might be celebrating the success of their youth set up, but what's the point if all the talent is going to get snapped up before they've even tasted first team football at Valley Parade? It's now official - we are a feeder club for Liverpool and anyone else who wants to come and plunder the youth we are producing.for goodness sake, he's a 14 year old kid. no disrespect but there are no guarantees he will make it at Liverpool, or that he ever would at City. It does not make us a feeder club or, by your logic, some of the youngsters we snap up from premiership clubs (eg Medley)makes them feeder clubs of ours. At the end of the day our youth set up has just helped us earn a decent amount of money for a player who may never make it. That has to be good news for us. good luck to the kid and I hope he makes it, but I don't see why we have any compliants.
shaun, richmond says...
10:18am Thu 24 Jan 08
The Bradford Bugler wrote:Spot on mate!!
JM wrote:Sorry, I thought that City are strapped for cash and the whole point of setting up a youth academy, call iit what you want, was to produce home grown players without the need to keep signing two bit loan players all the time in the future. "A decent amount of money". I don't see any mention of an actual figure!The Bradford Bugler wrote: Very eloquent RaulRaj and you have my sympathies. However, I don't understand what your post has to do with Bradford City losing a promising youngster to Liverpool. City might be celebrating the success of their youth set up, but what's the point if all the talent is going to get snapped up before they've even tasted first team football at Valley Parade? It's now official - we are a feeder club for Liverpool and anyone else who wants to come and plunder the youth we are producing.for goodness sake, he's a 14 year old kid. no disrespect but there are no guarantees he will make it at Liverpool, or that he ever would at City. It does not make us a feeder club or, by your logic, some of the youngsters we snap up from premiership clubs (eg Medley)makes them feeder clubs of ours. At the end of the day our youth set up has just helped us earn a decent amount of money for a player who may never make it. That has to be good news for us. good luck to the kid and I hope he makes it, but I don't see why we have any compliants.
Ali Baba, VP says...
10:32am Thu 24 Jan 08
Ali Baba, VP says...
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CT, Bingers says...
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CT, Bingers says...
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CT, Bingers says...
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CT, Bingers says...
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Ali Baba, VP says...
10:42am Thu 24 Jan 08
The Bantams side won the Fort Lowell shoot-out in Arizona, rattling in 21 goals in their four games
Ali Baba, VP says...
10:42am Thu 24 Jan 08
The Bantams side won the Fort Lowell shoot-out in Arizona, rattling in 21 goals in their four games
Ali Baba, VP says...
10:42am Thu 24 Jan 08
The Bantams side won the Fort Lowell shoot-out in Arizona, rattling in 21 goals in their four games
Ali Baba, VP says...
10:42am Thu 24 Jan 08
The Bantams side won the Fort Lowell shoot-out in Arizona, rattling in 21 goals in their four games
Stan Jessop, Stan The Man--Majorca says...
10:50am Thu 24 Jan 08
Stan Jessop, Stan The Man--Majorca says...
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Stan Jessop, Stan The Man--Majorca says...
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Stan Jessop, Stan The Man--Majorca says...
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tyker, midland road says...
11:37am Thu 24 Jan 08
tyker, midland road says...
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tyker, midland road says...
11:37am Thu 24 Jan 08
tyker, midland road says...
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Ali Baba, VP says...
11:39am Thu 24 Jan 08
Stan Jessop wrote:Andy O'Brien, Dean Richards, Stuart McCall not to mention Lewis Emanuel and Simon Francis bieng given a chance at a higher level. I am sure I among other people can think of more youngsters that have moved on with their career from the City academy proving that they can make it.
My dream of a "Young Squad of Stuart McCall's", developed from the Youth Development programme, has been shattered yet again. I recall a young player going from City to Man.Utd.(Thomson--I think?). He was equally showing great 'Starlet' promise. He did not get into their first team. He went to a lower league club, and suffered a broken leg etc. If the Youth Development programme and all the other 'Associations with other European Clubs etc.Is to make Bradford City a 'FEEDER CLUB'. Then these young 'Starlets' will continue to become dis-illusioned and BCFC, will remain in the Second Division.
Ali Baba, VP says...
11:39am Thu 24 Jan 08
Stan Jessop wrote:Andy O'Brien, Dean Richards, Stuart McCall not to mention Lewis Emanuel and Simon Francis bieng given a chance at a higher level. I am sure I among other people can think of more youngsters that have moved on with their career from the City academy proving that they can make it.
My dream of a "Young Squad of Stuart McCall's", developed from the Youth Development programme, has been shattered yet again. I recall a young player going from City to Man.Utd.(Thomson--I think?). He was equally showing great 'Starlet' promise. He did not get into their first team. He went to a lower league club, and suffered a broken leg etc. If the Youth Development programme and all the other 'Associations with other European Clubs etc.Is to make Bradford City a 'FEEDER CLUB'. Then these young 'Starlets' will continue to become dis-illusioned and BCFC, will remain in the Second Division.
Ali Baba, VP says...
11:39am Thu 24 Jan 08
Stan Jessop wrote:Andy O'Brien, Dean Richards, Stuart McCall not to mention Lewis Emanuel and Simon Francis bieng given a chance at a higher level. I am sure I among other people can think of more youngsters that have moved on with their career from the City academy proving that they can make it.
My dream of a "Young Squad of Stuart McCall's", developed from the Youth Development programme, has been shattered yet again. I recall a young player going from City to Man.Utd.(Thomson--I think?). He was equally showing great 'Starlet' promise. He did not get into their first team. He went to a lower league club, and suffered a broken leg etc. If the Youth Development programme and all the other 'Associations with other European Clubs etc.Is to make Bradford City a 'FEEDER CLUB'. Then these young 'Starlets' will continue to become dis-illusioned and BCFC, will remain in the Second Division.
Ali Baba, VP says...
11:39am Thu 24 Jan 08
Stan Jessop wrote:Andy O'Brien, Dean Richards, Stuart McCall not to mention Lewis Emanuel and Simon Francis bieng given a chance at a higher level. I am sure I among other people can think of more youngsters that have moved on with their career from the City academy proving that they can make it.
My dream of a "Young Squad of Stuart McCall's", developed from the Youth Development programme, has been shattered yet again. I recall a young player going from City to Man.Utd.(Thomson--I think?). He was equally showing great 'Starlet' promise. He did not get into their first team. He went to a lower league club, and suffered a broken leg etc. If the Youth Development programme and all the other 'Associations with other European Clubs etc.Is to make Bradford City a 'FEEDER CLUB'. Then these young 'Starlets' will continue to become dis-illusioned and BCFC, will remain in the Second Division.
JM, Skipton says...
12:09pm Thu 24 Jan 08
The Bradford Bugler wrote:eh? so you're complaining because the youth academy was set up as were strapped for cash (not true but ok) and now your complaining because that youth set up has just seen us earn money?
JM wrote:Sorry, I thought that City are strapped for cash and the whole point of setting up a youth academy, call iit what you want, was to produce home grown players without the need to keep signing two bit loan players all the time in the future. "A decent amount of money". I don't see any mention of an actual figure!The Bradford Bugler wrote: Very eloquent RaulRaj and you have my sympathies. However, I don't understand what your post has to do with Bradford City losing a promising youngster to Liverpool. City might be celebrating the success of their youth set up, but what's the point if all the talent is going to get snapped up before they've even tasted first team football at Valley Parade? It's now official - we are a feeder club for Liverpool and anyone else who wants to come and plunder the youth we are producing.for goodness sake, he's a 14 year old kid. no disrespect but there are no guarantees he will make it at Liverpool, or that he ever would at City. It does not make us a feeder club or, by your logic, some of the youngsters we snap up from premiership clubs (eg Medley)makes them feeder clubs of ours. At the end of the day our youth set up has just helped us earn a decent amount of money for a player who may never make it. That has to be good news for us. good luck to the kid and I hope he makes it, but I don't see why we have any compliants.
JM, Skipton says...
12:09pm Thu 24 Jan 08
The Bradford Bugler wrote:eh? so you're complaining because the youth academy was set up as were strapped for cash (not true but ok) and now your complaining because that youth set up has just seen us earn money?
JM wrote:Sorry, I thought that City are strapped for cash and the whole point of setting up a youth academy, call iit what you want, was to produce home grown players without the need to keep signing two bit loan players all the time in the future. "A decent amount of money". I don't see any mention of an actual figure!The Bradford Bugler wrote: Very eloquent RaulRaj and you have my sympathies. However, I don't understand what your post has to do with Bradford City losing a promising youngster to Liverpool. City might be celebrating the success of their youth set up, but what's the point if all the talent is going to get snapped up before they've even tasted first team football at Valley Parade? It's now official - we are a feeder club for Liverpool and anyone else who wants to come and plunder the youth we are producing.for goodness sake, he's a 14 year old kid. no disrespect but there are no guarantees he will make it at Liverpool, or that he ever would at City. It does not make us a feeder club or, by your logic, some of the youngsters we snap up from premiership clubs (eg Medley)makes them feeder clubs of ours. At the end of the day our youth set up has just helped us earn a decent amount of money for a player who may never make it. That has to be good news for us. good luck to the kid and I hope he makes it, but I don't see why we have any compliants.
JM, Skipton says...
12:09pm Thu 24 Jan 08
The Bradford Bugler wrote:eh? so you're complaining because the youth academy was set up as were strapped for cash (not true but ok) and now your complaining because that youth set up has just seen us earn money?
JM wrote:Sorry, I thought that City are strapped for cash and the whole point of setting up a youth academy, call iit what you want, was to produce home grown players without the need to keep signing two bit loan players all the time in the future. "A decent amount of money". I don't see any mention of an actual figure!The Bradford Bugler wrote: Very eloquent RaulRaj and you have my sympathies. However, I don't understand what your post has to do with Bradford City losing a promising youngster to Liverpool. City might be celebrating the success of their youth set up, but what's the point if all the talent is going to get snapped up before they've even tasted first team football at Valley Parade? It's now official - we are a feeder club for Liverpool and anyone else who wants to come and plunder the youth we are producing.for goodness sake, he's a 14 year old kid. no disrespect but there are no guarantees he will make it at Liverpool, or that he ever would at City. It does not make us a feeder club or, by your logic, some of the youngsters we snap up from premiership clubs (eg Medley)makes them feeder clubs of ours. At the end of the day our youth set up has just helped us earn a decent amount of money for a player who may never make it. That has to be good news for us. good luck to the kid and I hope he makes it, but I don't see why we have any compliants.
JM, Skipton says...
12:09pm Thu 24 Jan 08
The Bradford Bugler wrote:eh? so you're complaining because the youth academy was set up as were strapped for cash (not true but ok) and now your complaining because that youth set up has just seen us earn money?
JM wrote:Sorry, I thought that City are strapped for cash and the whole point of setting up a youth academy, call iit what you want, was to produce home grown players without the need to keep signing two bit loan players all the time in the future. "A decent amount of money". I don't see any mention of an actual figure!The Bradford Bugler wrote: Very eloquent RaulRaj and you have my sympathies. However, I don't understand what your post has to do with Bradford City losing a promising youngster to Liverpool. City might be celebrating the success of their youth set up, but what's the point if all the talent is going to get snapped up before they've even tasted first team football at Valley Parade? It's now official - we are a feeder club for Liverpool and anyone else who wants to come and plunder the youth we are producing.for goodness sake, he's a 14 year old kid. no disrespect but there are no guarantees he will make it at Liverpool, or that he ever would at City. It does not make us a feeder club or, by your logic, some of the youngsters we snap up from premiership clubs (eg Medley)makes them feeder clubs of ours. At the end of the day our youth set up has just helped us earn a decent amount of money for a player who may never make it. That has to be good news for us. good luck to the kid and I hope he makes it, but I don't see why we have any compliants.
Reckless, Adelaide says...
12:14pm Thu 24 Jan 08
RaulRaj wrote::-) made me smile anyway !!!!
I shall not begin with my emotional affiliations with LFC throughout my lifetime. We all are.
A financial boycott of products just for the time being may not be the best solution but can be a small measure of a start. In the long run it would still hurt LFC with Hick/Gillett only out for financial gains. I can also forsee them offloading any player whom they deem fit to reap profits. That can include Gerrard and Torres.
I would like to propose that, as Hicks seemingly is only a businessman and never a fan of anyone, and that he probably didn't know that in the EPL the football is round, and that his primary interests are elsewhere, he'd only realise the gravity of the situation here at LFC if the worst happens right in the heart of his interests. That refers to Texas Rangers and the Dallas Stars. This boycott should extend all the way across the atlantic to minimise the effect on LFC itself as a club. I do not know much about these two teams, but a simple search does provide some clues, and their rivals are pivotal in bringing the message across as they would love to undermine their bitter rivals in any way possible. I can declare to be anti-Texas Rangers and anti-Dallas Stars, and any rival team is a friendly figure. Whatever happens on the ground at Liverpool doesn't affect him much while sitting in the Sates as much as it does affect me as far as here in Singapore, and although the media is far stretching, we need to bring his undoings straight into his backyard; his homeland. He deserves to be HIT where it hurts.
The banks have been hesitant with the loans as they need assurances with their assets, but they also do know that LFC is not a small club. They know there would be ready buyers should the club make losses. (touchwood) And if Hicks is to use his assets back home as collateral, then these assets must be placed under a doubtful shadow. For that to happen, there must be negative sentiments in place for all his other assets and ventures. Its a totally different Ball-Game, and its a long shot, but collectively and in a short period, the voices of the fans of LiverpoolFC would be heard, and that would make the difference.
RaulRaj, 35
Singapore
Reckless, Adelaide says...
12:14pm Thu 24 Jan 08
RaulRaj wrote::-) made me smile anyway !!!!
I shall not begin with my emotional affiliations with LFC throughout my lifetime. We all are.
A financial boycott of products just for the time being may not be the best solution but can be a small measure of a start. In the long run it would still hurt LFC with Hick/Gillett only out for financial gains. I can also forsee them offloading any player whom they deem fit to reap profits. That can include Gerrard and Torres.
I would like to propose that, as Hicks seemingly is only a businessman and never a fan of anyone, and that he probably didn't know that in the EPL the football is round, and that his primary interests are elsewhere, he'd only realise the gravity of the situation here at LFC if the worst happens right in the heart of his interests. That refers to Texas Rangers and the Dallas Stars. This boycott should extend all the way across the atlantic to minimise the effect on LFC itself as a club. I do not know much about these two teams, but a simple search does provide some clues, and their rivals are pivotal in bringing the message across as they would love to undermine their bitter rivals in any way possible. I can declare to be anti-Texas Rangers and anti-Dallas Stars, and any rival team is a friendly figure. Whatever happens on the ground at Liverpool doesn't affect him much while sitting in the Sates as much as it does affect me as far as here in Singapore, and although the media is far stretching, we need to bring his undoings straight into his backyard; his homeland. He deserves to be HIT where it hurts.
The banks have been hesitant with the loans as they need assurances with their assets, but they also do know that LFC is not a small club. They know there would be ready buyers should the club make losses. (touchwood) And if Hicks is to use his assets back home as collateral, then these assets must be placed under a doubtful shadow. For that to happen, there must be negative sentiments in place for all his other assets and ventures. Its a totally different Ball-Game, and its a long shot, but collectively and in a short period, the voices of the fans of LiverpoolFC would be heard, and that would make the difference.
RaulRaj, 35
Singapore
Reckless, Adelaide says...
12:14pm Thu 24 Jan 08
RaulRaj wrote::-) made me smile anyway !!!!
I shall not begin with my emotional affiliations with LFC throughout my lifetime. We all are.
A financial boycott of products just for the time being may not be the best solution but can be a small measure of a start. In the long run it would still hurt LFC with Hick/Gillett only out for financial gains. I can also forsee them offloading any player whom they deem fit to reap profits. That can include Gerrard and Torres.
I would like to propose that, as Hicks seemingly is only a businessman and never a fan of anyone, and that he probably didn't know that in the EPL the football is round, and that his primary interests are elsewhere, he'd only realise the gravity of the situation here at LFC if the worst happens right in the heart of his interests. That refers to Texas Rangers and the Dallas Stars. This boycott should extend all the way across the atlantic to minimise the effect on LFC itself as a club. I do not know much about these two teams, but a simple search does provide some clues, and their rivals are pivotal in bringing the message across as they would love to undermine their bitter rivals in any way possible. I can declare to be anti-Texas Rangers and anti-Dallas Stars, and any rival team is a friendly figure. Whatever happens on the ground at Liverpool doesn't affect him much while sitting in the Sates as much as it does affect me as far as here in Singapore, and although the media is far stretching, we need to bring his undoings straight into his backyard; his homeland. He deserves to be HIT where it hurts.
The banks have been hesitant with the loans as they need assurances with their assets, but they also do know that LFC is not a small club. They know there would be ready buyers should the club make losses. (touchwood) And if Hicks is to use his assets back home as collateral, then these assets must be placed under a doubtful shadow. For that to happen, there must be negative sentiments in place for all his other assets and ventures. Its a totally different Ball-Game, and its a long shot, but collectively and in a short period, the voices of the fans of LiverpoolFC would be heard, and that would make the difference.
RaulRaj, 35
Singapore
Reckless, Adelaide says...
12:14pm Thu 24 Jan 08
RaulRaj wrote::-) made me smile anyway !!!!
I shall not begin with my emotional affiliations with LFC throughout my lifetime. We all are.
A financial boycott of products just for the time being may not be the best solution but can be a small measure of a start. In the long run it would still hurt LFC with Hick/Gillett only out for financial gains. I can also forsee them offloading any player whom they deem fit to reap profits. That can include Gerrard and Torres.
I would like to propose that, as Hicks seemingly is only a businessman and never a fan of anyone, and that he probably didn't know that in the EPL the football is round, and that his primary interests are elsewhere, he'd only realise the gravity of the situation here at LFC if the worst happens right in the heart of his interests. That refers to Texas Rangers and the Dallas Stars. This boycott should extend all the way across the atlantic to minimise the effect on LFC itself as a club. I do not know much about these two teams, but a simple search does provide some clues, and their rivals are pivotal in bringing the message across as they would love to undermine their bitter rivals in any way possible. I can declare to be anti-Texas Rangers and anti-Dallas Stars, and any rival team is a friendly figure. Whatever happens on the ground at Liverpool doesn't affect him much while sitting in the Sates as much as it does affect me as far as here in Singapore, and although the media is far stretching, we need to bring his undoings straight into his backyard; his homeland. He deserves to be HIT where it hurts.
The banks have been hesitant with the loans as they need assurances with their assets, but they also do know that LFC is not a small club. They know there would be ready buyers should the club make losses. (touchwood) And if Hicks is to use his assets back home as collateral, then these assets must be placed under a doubtful shadow. For that to happen, there must be negative sentiments in place for all his other assets and ventures. Its a totally different Ball-Game, and its a long shot, but collectively and in a short period, the voices of the fans of LiverpoolFC would be heard, and that would make the difference.
RaulRaj, 35
Singapore
The Bradford Bugler, Bradford says...
12:16pm Thu 24 Jan 08
The Bradford Bugler, Bradford says...
12:16pm Thu 24 Jan 08
The Bradford Bugler, Bradford says...
12:16pm Thu 24 Jan 08
The Bradford Bugler, Bradford says...
12:16pm Thu 24 Jan 08
Reckless, Adelaide says...
12:20pm Thu 24 Jan 08
Ali Baba wrote:Wow! Ali, at last some reasonable debate and refreshingly true points!
If the youth set up can generate the club some money that is definitely a good thing. Look at Everton, altohugh they are a feeder club to City, selling Rooney to Man U has set them up and they have built and progressed from there. Hindsight is a brilliant thing and we would have been better off if we got a fee for players like Forest, Ekoku, Brown, Sanasy, Emanuel, I can go on.
We have got a bit of money from Liverpool for a player that may never make it, then again he may be the next Wayne Rooney, and if that is the case, if you read there are incentive bonuses in City's favour and will be a nice cash influx to the club for a 14yr old kid.
He is a local lad and if he doesn't make he may come back, and if he spends a few years training with Liverpool with their facilities, is that really a bad thing.
A bit of good luck here for City and come on lads, lets be positive. We have had youth players that have had a lot of promise and see what have happened to them and the level they are playing at now, Gareth Grant, Danny Forrest, Kevin Sanasy, need I go on?
So great news I say if we have got some money with incentive bonuses for a kid and what a great opportunity for the lad. Let him develop at Anfield and if he doesn't make it, he MAY come back to Valley Parade a more complete player.
Reckless, Adelaide says...
12:20pm Thu 24 Jan 08
Ali Baba wrote:Wow! Ali, at last some reasonable debate and refreshingly true points!
If the youth set up can generate the club some money that is definitely a good thing. Look at Everton, altohugh they are a feeder club to City, selling Rooney to Man U has set them up and they have built and progressed from there. Hindsight is a brilliant thing and we would have been better off if we got a fee for players like Forest, Ekoku, Brown, Sanasy, Emanuel, I can go on.
We have got a bit of money from Liverpool for a player that may never make it, then again he may be the next Wayne Rooney, and if that is the case, if you read there are incentive bonuses in City's favour and will be a nice cash influx to the club for a 14yr old kid.
He is a local lad and if he doesn't make he may come back, and if he spends a few years training with Liverpool with their facilities, is that really a bad thing.
A bit of good luck here for City and come on lads, lets be positive. We have had youth players that have had a lot of promise and see what have happened to them and the level they are playing at now, Gareth Grant, Danny Forrest, Kevin Sanasy, need I go on?
So great news I say if we have got some money with incentive bonuses for a kid and what a great opportunity for the lad. Let him develop at Anfield and if he doesn't make it, he MAY come back to Valley Parade a more complete player.
Reckless, Adelaide says...
12:20pm Thu 24 Jan 08
Ali Baba wrote:Wow! Ali, at last some reasonable debate and refreshingly true points!
If the youth set up can generate the club some money that is definitely a good thing. Look at Everton, altohugh they are a feeder club to City, selling Rooney to Man U has set them up and they have built and progressed from there. Hindsight is a brilliant thing and we would have been better off if we got a fee for players like Forest, Ekoku, Brown, Sanasy, Emanuel, I can go on.
We have got a bit of money from Liverpool for a player that may never make it, then again he may be the next Wayne Rooney, and if that is the case, if you read there are incentive bonuses in City's favour and will be a nice cash influx to the club for a 14yr old kid.
He is a local lad and if he doesn't make he may come back, and if he spends a few years training with Liverpool with their facilities, is that really a bad thing.
A bit of good luck here for City and come on lads, lets be positive. We have had youth players that have had a lot of promise and see what have happened to them and the level they are playing at now, Gareth Grant, Danny Forrest, Kevin Sanasy, need I go on?
So great news I say if we have got some money with incentive bonuses for a kid and what a great opportunity for the lad. Let him develop at Anfield and if he doesn't make it, he MAY come back to Valley Parade a more complete player.
Reckless, Adelaide says...
12:20pm Thu 24 Jan 08
Ali Baba wrote:Wow! Ali, at last some reasonable debate and refreshingly true points!
If the youth set up can generate the club some money that is definitely a good thing. Look at Everton, altohugh they are a feeder club to City, selling Rooney to Man U has set them up and they have built and progressed from there. Hindsight is a brilliant thing and we would have been better off if we got a fee for players like Forest, Ekoku, Brown, Sanasy, Emanuel, I can go on.
We have got a bit of money from Liverpool for a player that may never make it, then again he may be the next Wayne Rooney, and if that is the case, if you read there are incentive bonuses in City's favour and will be a nice cash influx to the club for a 14yr old kid.
He is a local lad and if he doesn't make he may come back, and if he spends a few years training with Liverpool with their facilities, is that really a bad thing.
A bit of good luck here for City and come on lads, lets be positive. We have had youth players that have had a lot of promise and see what have happened to them and the level they are playing at now, Gareth Grant, Danny Forrest, Kevin Sanasy, need I go on?
So great news I say if we have got some money with incentive bonuses for a kid and what a great opportunity for the lad. Let him develop at Anfield and if he doesn't make it, he MAY come back to Valley Parade a more complete player.
Gentleman Jim, Yooohooo over here says...
1:12pm Thu 24 Jan 08
Gentleman Jim, Yooohooo over here says...
1:12pm Thu 24 Jan 08
Gentleman Jim, Yooohooo over here says...
1:12pm Thu 24 Jan 08
Gentleman Jim, Yooohooo over here says...
1:12pm Thu 24 Jan 08
Mr Who, Bradford says...
1:27pm Thu 24 Jan 08
Mr Who, Bradford says...
1:27pm Thu 24 Jan 08
Mr Who, Bradford says...
1:27pm Thu 24 Jan 08
Mr Who, Bradford says...
1:27pm Thu 24 Jan 08
tyker, midland road says...
1:49pm Thu 24 Jan 08
tyker, midland road says...
1:49pm Thu 24 Jan 08
tyker, midland road says...
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tyker, midland road says...
1:49pm Thu 24 Jan 08
albion, west riding says...
1:51pm Thu 24 Jan 08
Mr Who wrote:Hope everyone likes calamari then.
The rumour doing the rounds for the last week or so has it that City are making half a million squid on this one. I wonder how it will be spent.
albion, west riding says...
1:51pm Thu 24 Jan 08
Mr Who wrote:Hope everyone likes calamari then.
The rumour doing the rounds for the last week or so has it that City are making half a million squid on this one. I wonder how it will be spent.
albion, west riding says...
1:51pm Thu 24 Jan 08
Mr Who wrote:Hope everyone likes calamari then.
The rumour doing the rounds for the last week or so has it that City are making half a million squid on this one. I wonder how it will be spent.
albion, west riding says...
1:51pm Thu 24 Jan 08
Mr Who wrote:Hope everyone likes calamari then.
The rumour doing the rounds for the last week or so has it that City are making half a million squid on this one. I wonder how it will be spent.
Ali Baba, VP says...
2:08pm Thu 24 Jan 08
Ali Baba, VP says...
2:08pm Thu 24 Jan 08
Ali Baba, VP says...
2:08pm Thu 24 Jan 08
Ali Baba, VP says...
2:08pm Thu 24 Jan 08
Tommy, bradford says...
3:02pm Thu 24 Jan 08
Tommy, bradford says...
3:02pm Thu 24 Jan 08
Tommy, bradford says...
3:02pm Thu 24 Jan 08
Tommy, bradford says...
3:02pm Thu 24 Jan 08
albion, west riding says...
3:08pm Thu 24 Jan 08
Tommy wrote:His career record is in wikipedia, and it says County.
Francis was released by Notts. Forest. 'Ring Fenced' the new word in football, eh? Add this to 'back stick', 'in the mix', 'a big ask', 'a coming together' 'there or thereabouts' etc etc. We will need a complete new English Dictionary soon to add all of this lot!!
albion, west riding says...
3:08pm Thu 24 Jan 08
Tommy wrote:His career record is in wikipedia, and it says County.
Francis was released by Notts. Forest. 'Ring Fenced' the new word in football, eh? Add this to 'back stick', 'in the mix', 'a big ask', 'a coming together' 'there or thereabouts' etc etc. We will need a complete new English Dictionary soon to add all of this lot!!
albion, west riding says...
3:08pm Thu 24 Jan 08
Tommy wrote:His career record is in wikipedia, and it says County.
Francis was released by Notts. Forest. 'Ring Fenced' the new word in football, eh? Add this to 'back stick', 'in the mix', 'a big ask', 'a coming together' 'there or thereabouts' etc etc. We will need a complete new English Dictionary soon to add all of this lot!!
albion, west riding says...
3:08pm Thu 24 Jan 08
Tommy wrote:His career record is in wikipedia, and it says County.
Francis was released by Notts. Forest. 'Ring Fenced' the new word in football, eh? Add this to 'back stick', 'in the mix', 'a big ask', 'a coming together' 'there or thereabouts' etc etc. We will need a complete new English Dictionary soon to add all of this lot!!
andy, bradford says...
3:40pm Thu 24 Jan 08
andy, bradford says...
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andy, bradford says...
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andy, bradford says...
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know my onions, bradford says...
3:58pm Thu 24 Jan 08
know my onions, bradford says...
3:58pm Thu 24 Jan 08
know my onions, bradford says...
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know my onions, bradford says...
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Mr Who, Bradford says...
5:07pm Thu 24 Jan 08
albion wrote:It's all Mark Lawn eats.
Mr Who wrote: The rumour doing the rounds for the last week or so has it that City are making half a million squid on this one. I wonder how it will be spent.Hope everyone likes calamari then.
Mr Who, Bradford says...
5:07pm Thu 24 Jan 08
albion wrote:It's all Mark Lawn eats.
Mr Who wrote: The rumour doing the rounds for the last week or so has it that City are making half a million squid on this one. I wonder how it will be spent.Hope everyone likes calamari then.
Mr Who, Bradford says...
5:07pm Thu 24 Jan 08
albion wrote:It's all Mark Lawn eats.
Mr Who wrote: The rumour doing the rounds for the last week or so has it that City are making half a million squid on this one. I wonder how it will be spent.Hope everyone likes calamari then.
Mr Who, Bradford says...
5:07pm Thu 24 Jan 08
albion wrote:It's all Mark Lawn eats.
Mr Who wrote: The rumour doing the rounds for the last week or so has it that City are making half a million squid on this one. I wonder how it will be spent.Hope everyone likes calamari then.
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RaulRaj, Singapore says...
6:48am Thu 24 Jan 08
A financial boycott of products just for the time being may not be the best solution but can be a small measure of a start. In the long run it would still hurt LFC with Hick/Gillett only out for financial gains. I can also forsee them offloading any player whom they deem fit to reap profits. That can include Gerrard and Torres.
I would like to propose that, as Hicks seemingly is only a businessman and never a fan of anyone, and that he probably didn't know that in the EPL the football is round, and that his primary interests are elsewhere, he'd only realise the gravity of the situation here at LFC if the worst happens right in the heart of his interests. That refers to Texas Rangers and the Dallas Stars. This boycott should extend all the way across the atlantic to minimise the effect on LFC itself as a club. I do not know much about these two teams, but a simple search does provide some clues, and their rivals are pivotal in bringing the message across as they would love to undermine their bitter rivals in any way possible. I can declare to be anti-Texas Rangers and anti-Dallas Stars, and any rival team is a friendly figure. Whatever happens on the ground at Liverpool doesn't affect him much while sitting in the Sates as much as it does affect me as far as here in Singapore, and although the media is far stretching, we need to bring his undoings straight into his backyard; his homeland. He deserves to be HIT where it hurts.
The banks have been hesitant with the loans as they need assurances with their assets, but they also do know that LFC is not a small club. They know there would be ready buyers should the club make losses. (touchwood) And if Hicks is to use his assets back home as collateral, then these assets must be placed under a doubtful shadow. For that to happen, there must be negative sentiments in place for all his other assets and ventures. Its a totally different Ball-Game, and its a long shot, but collectively and in a short period, the voices of the fans of LiverpoolFC would be heard, and that would make the difference.
RaulRaj, 35
Singapore