Bantams boss Phil Parkinson happy to get Ben Williams for keeps

Bantams boss Phil Parkinson happy to get Ben Williams for keeps

Matty Dolan gets the chance to start in midfield as City make changes for the JPT

Jack Compton scores from the penalty spot in last year's humbling by Hartlepool

IF LOOKS COULD KILL: Phil Parkinson at the final whistle after last year's clash with Hartlepool

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PHIL Parkinson reckons City have landed a real coup in securing keeper Ben Williams for the rest of the year.

The 32-year-old has signed a new deal until the end of December – the only major bit of business as transfer deadline day passed quietly at Valley Parade.

Williams has looked solid in his two Capital One Cup outings but may be on the bench again at Oldham tonight with Jordan Pickford clear to play in the Johnstone’s Paint Trophy.

Parkinson is pleased to snap up the experienced stopper, who had been on non-contract terms since leaving Hibernian in the summer.

He said: “Ben did really well at Hibs. Last year was difficult for everyone there and maybe he got tarred with the same brush after the club went down.

“He’s a good keeper and we’re delighted to have him. Not only that but he’s a great character to have around the training ground and we always look at the personality when we bring players in.

“The goalkeeping position is very important and we’ve got to make that as strong as every other department.”

Parkinson will make changes at Boundary Park within the criteria of starting six of the regular players from the weekend line-up.

Matt Dolan and Mark Yeates are likely to get the nod and there will be a debut for central defender Christopher Routis.

Parkinson added: “A few players who are outside the starting XI in recent weeks deserve a game because they’ve done absolutely nothing wrong not to be in the team.

“Whether it’s a cup or league game, we’ve got standards we’ve set and want to maintain them.

“It was the same prior to the Leeds game. Whether it was Leeds United or not, we wanted to keep up our early season form.”

City were crushed 5-0 at the same stage last season by Hartlepool – their heaviest defeat during Parkinson’s three-year reign.

He added: “That can happen in a season - even top teams in world football have real off days. You’ve just got to make sure they are few and far between.”

Dolan remembers that game at Victoria Park well – he was playing for the home side on loan from Middlesbrough.

The midfielder said: “That was my second game for Hartlepool and we hadn’t scored a goal all season. It was just one of those things.

“But as the gaffer said on the training ground yesterday, ‘get yourself rested and get on the road to Wembley’. People think that it’s only the JPT but there’s a trip to Wembley there for everyone.

“With the experience Bradford have had of Wembley over the last couple of years, it would be nice to get there again.”

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7:53am Tue 2 Sep 14

Freddy says...

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With the experience Bradford have had of Wembley over the last couple of years, it would be nice to get there again.”
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Totally agree this comment. Wembley is a HOME Match for Bradford City.
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Ben should play tonight. I hope The Bradford Army can attend in good numbers at Oldham tonight. I would like to go to Wembley again !.
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* With the experience Bradford have had of Wembley over the last couple of years, it would be nice to get there again.” * Totally agree this comment. Wembley is a HOME Match for Bradford City. * Ben should play tonight. I hope The Bradford Army can attend in good numbers at Oldham tonight. I would like to go to Wembley again !. * Freddy
  • Score: 15

8:08am Tue 2 Sep 14

macca1969 says...

If you like to go to Wembley so much why don't you go to Rochdale or Oldham tonight. You sound like a glory supporter freddy picking and choosing your games
If you like to go to Wembley so much why don't you go to Rochdale or Oldham tonight. You sound like a glory supporter freddy picking and choosing your games macca1969
  • Score: -17

8:14am Tue 2 Sep 14

macca1969 says...

Will we now have to sell another asset now the cleverley deal has fallen through. We were led to believe that the money was ear marked to cover a 600k deficit, so how will we cover that now? Surely our only asset of any real value is Hanson and should we sell him this would not go down very well with the majority of supporters.

It is very worrying that we are probably 4-5 players short of a squad deep enough to challenge for the whole season but still we are over budget by over half a million pounds. Hope the club have a back up plan that doesn't involve pimping out our best plsyers
Will we now have to sell another asset now the cleverley deal has fallen through. We were led to believe that the money was ear marked to cover a 600k deficit, so how will we cover that now? Surely our only asset of any real value is Hanson and should we sell him this would not go down very well with the majority of supporters. It is very worrying that we are probably 4-5 players short of a squad deep enough to challenge for the whole season but still we are over budget by over half a million pounds. Hope the club have a back up plan that doesn't involve pimping out our best plsyers macca1969
  • Score: -26

8:45am Tue 2 Sep 14

Bantambhoy says...

macca1969 wrote:
Will we now have to sell another asset now the cleverley deal has fallen through. We were led to believe that the money was ear marked to cover a 600k deficit, so how will we cover that now? Surely our only asset of any real value is Hanson and should we sell him this would not go down very well with the majority of supporters.

It is very worrying that we are probably 4-5 players short of a squad deep enough to challenge for the whole season but still we are over budget by over half a million pounds. Hope the club have a back up plan that doesn't involve pimping out our best plsyers
You shouldn't really comment so negatively on things you can't possibly know. The management team have already said that they have not factored in any income such as the Cleverly sell on, how could they? so the deficit must be planned. Why worry?!
[quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: Will we now have to sell another asset now the cleverley deal has fallen through. We were led to believe that the money was ear marked to cover a 600k deficit, so how will we cover that now? Surely our only asset of any real value is Hanson and should we sell him this would not go down very well with the majority of supporters. It is very worrying that we are probably 4-5 players short of a squad deep enough to challenge for the whole season but still we are over budget by over half a million pounds. Hope the club have a back up plan that doesn't involve pimping out our best plsyers[/p][/quote]You shouldn't really comment so negatively on things you can't possibly know. The management team have already said that they have not factored in any income such as the Cleverly sell on, how could they? so the deficit must be planned. Why worry?! Bantambhoy
  • Score: 6

9:06am Tue 2 Sep 14

pokertee says...

for starters we are not 600,000 in debt thats what we need for the long season as other clubs need to. we need around 1.2 million to run the club year to year and our defecit is around 600,000 most clubs have a far bigger one. we dont need to sell players we are in good financial standing.
take a look at our cash low here: http://companycheck.
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15/BRADFORD-CITY-FOO
TBALL-CLUB-LIMITED
for starters we are not 600,000 in debt thats what we need for the long season as other clubs need to. we need around 1.2 million to run the club year to year and our defecit is around 600,000 most clubs have a far bigger one. we dont need to sell players we are in good financial standing. take a look at our cash low here: http://companycheck. co.uk/company/051029 15/BRADFORD-CITY-FOO TBALL-CLUB-LIMITED pokertee
  • Score: 2

10:14am Tue 2 Sep 14

Peter300 says...

macca1969 wrote:
Will we now have to sell another asset now the cleverley deal has fallen through. We were led to believe that the money was ear marked to cover a 600k deficit, so how will we cover that now? Surely our only asset of any real value is Hanson and should we sell him this would not go down very well with the majority of supporters.

It is very worrying that we are probably 4-5 players short of a squad deep enough to challenge for the whole season but still we are over budget by over half a million pounds. Hope the club have a back up plan that doesn't involve pimping out our best plsyers
No matter how well the club start, you cannot remove the negativity from some fans and this is a good example. City have had a better start than probably most people expected given the downbeat comments from the usual suspects and here we have somebody who is very worried about something that may or may not happen sometime in the future. I think the last sentence reveals more about the attitude of the poster than the club.
[quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: Will we now have to sell another asset now the cleverley deal has fallen through. We were led to believe that the money was ear marked to cover a 600k deficit, so how will we cover that now? Surely our only asset of any real value is Hanson and should we sell him this would not go down very well with the majority of supporters. It is very worrying that we are probably 4-5 players short of a squad deep enough to challenge for the whole season but still we are over budget by over half a million pounds. Hope the club have a back up plan that doesn't involve pimping out our best plsyers[/p][/quote]No matter how well the club start, you cannot remove the negativity from some fans and this is a good example. City have had a better start than probably most people expected given the downbeat comments from the usual suspects and here we have somebody who is very worried about something that may or may not happen sometime in the future. I think the last sentence reveals more about the attitude of the poster than the club. Peter300
  • Score: 2

10:41am Tue 2 Sep 14

Halifax Bantam says...

Anyway its odds on that Cleverley will be sold in January making us even more financially stable, hopefully we can add 1 or 2 more quality loans now that Prem & Champ teams have done there transfer buisness leaving loads of players surplus. I see Middlesborough signed another winger yesterday, its a big hope but maybe we could see Reach back with us!
Anyway its odds on that Cleverley will be sold in January making us even more financially stable, hopefully we can add 1 or 2 more quality loans now that Prem & Champ teams have done there transfer buisness leaving loads of players surplus. I see Middlesborough signed another winger yesterday, its a big hope but maybe we could see Reach back with us! Halifax Bantam
  • Score: 2

11:36am Tue 2 Sep 14

Freddy says...

macca1969 wrote:
If you like to go to Wembley so much why don't you go to Rochdale or Oldham tonight. You sound like a glory supporter freddy picking and choosing your games
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Very surprised at your totally unnecessary rhetoric. -MACCA 1969.
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As I am living hundreds of miles away, I can only attend certain matches. If you must know ?.
Both me and my Son are committed to work, of a difficult and sensitive nature. We can rarely get time off , that fits in with City Fixtures.
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Your sarcasm is disgraceful. Or are you in league with Peter 300 and ALL the other sarcastic commentators, who enjoy a secretive identity. Therefore, they feel they can insult genuine Supporters, and escape any form of punishment etc.
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I will , from this point in time, ignore any further sarcastic comments, from these very sad people.
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[quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: If you like to go to Wembley so much why don't you go to Rochdale or Oldham tonight. You sound like a glory supporter freddy picking and choosing your games[/p][/quote]* Very surprised at your totally unnecessary rhetoric. -MACCA 1969. * As I am living hundreds of miles away, I can only attend certain matches. If you must know ?. Both me and my Son are committed to work, of a difficult and sensitive nature. We can rarely get time off , that fits in with City Fixtures. * Your sarcasm is disgraceful. Or are you in league with Peter 300 and ALL the other sarcastic commentators, who enjoy a secretive identity. Therefore, they feel they can insult genuine Supporters, and escape any form of punishment etc. * I will , from this point in time, ignore any further sarcastic comments, from these very sad people. * * Freddy
  • Score: 14

11:52am Tue 2 Sep 14

lawsonio123 says...

Freddy wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
If you like to go to Wembley so much why don't you go to Rochdale or Oldham tonight. You sound like a glory supporter freddy picking and choosing your games
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Very surprised at your totally unnecessary rhetoric. -MACCA 1969.
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As I am living hundreds of miles away, I can only attend certain matches. If you must know ?.
Both me and my Son are committed to work, of a difficult and sensitive nature. We can rarely get time off , that fits in with City Fixtures.
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Your sarcasm is disgraceful. Or are you in league with Peter 300 and ALL the other sarcastic commentators, who enjoy a secretive identity. Therefore, they feel they can insult genuine Supporters, and escape any form of punishment etc.
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I will , from this point in time, ignore any further sarcastic comments, from these very sad people.
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Well said Freddy There is no need to abuse and degrade other supporters we are all followers of City at the end of the day. It makes me sad to see this kind of thing . there is room for friendly Banter that is acceptable and part and parcel of posting Freddy please forgive my fellow posters lawsonio
[quote][p][bold]Freddy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: If you like to go to Wembley so much why don't you go to Rochdale or Oldham tonight. You sound like a glory supporter freddy picking and choosing your games[/p][/quote]* Very surprised at your totally unnecessary rhetoric. -MACCA 1969. * As I am living hundreds of miles away, I can only attend certain matches. If you must know ?. Both me and my Son are committed to work, of a difficult and sensitive nature. We can rarely get time off , that fits in with City Fixtures. * Your sarcasm is disgraceful. Or are you in league with Peter 300 and ALL the other sarcastic commentators, who enjoy a secretive identity. Therefore, they feel they can insult genuine Supporters, and escape any form of punishment etc. * I will , from this point in time, ignore any further sarcastic comments, from these very sad people. * *[/p][/quote]Well said Freddy There is no need to abuse and degrade other supporters we are all followers of City at the end of the day. It makes me sad to see this kind of thing . there is room for friendly Banter that is acceptable and part and parcel of posting Freddy please forgive my fellow posters lawsonio lawsonio123
  • Score: 5

12:59pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Waydownsouth says...

Can't believe some of the negative comments. Do we not appear to be a club hat is well managed at all levels and in control of itself? Yes we do. In PP we have a team manager who got us promotion, to a Wembley final, and has virtually rebuilt the team in the close season and brought in some quality players to augment those we already had, resulting in a good start to the season. The Board has also proven it's abilities and has shown a good mixture of ambition and financial prudence that I believe will sustain a brighter future for the club. Don't forget that reaching the Premiership was based on sustainable growth and inspired team management over a number of years - not a lunatic shopping spree.
Can't believe some of the negative comments. Do we not appear to be a club hat is well managed at all levels and in control of itself? Yes we do. In PP we have a team manager who got us promotion, to a Wembley final, and has virtually rebuilt the team in the close season and brought in some quality players to augment those we already had, resulting in a good start to the season. The Board has also proven it's abilities and has shown a good mixture of ambition and financial prudence that I believe will sustain a brighter future for the club. Don't forget that reaching the Premiership was based on sustainable growth and inspired team management over a number of years - not a lunatic shopping spree. Waydownsouth
  • Score: 7

1:01pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Michael Clayton says...

Halifax Bantam wrote:
Anyway its odds on that Cleverley will be sold in January making us even more financially stable, hopefully we can add 1 or 2 more quality loans now that Prem & Champ teams have done there transfer buisness leaving loads of players surplus. I see Middlesborough signed another winger yesterday, its a big hope but maybe we could see Reach back with us!
I hope you are correct. What is to stop him running down the remainder of his contract though?

As far as I understand, the only body to lose out would be Manchester United. Is anyone going to stump up £8m (or anything approaching that) if they can take a punt on getting him for nothing in the summer?
[quote][p][bold]Halifax Bantam[/bold] wrote: Anyway its odds on that Cleverley will be sold in January making us even more financially stable, hopefully we can add 1 or 2 more quality loans now that Prem & Champ teams have done there transfer buisness leaving loads of players surplus. I see Middlesborough signed another winger yesterday, its a big hope but maybe we could see Reach back with us![/p][/quote]I hope you are correct. What is to stop him running down the remainder of his contract though? As far as I understand, the only body to lose out would be Manchester United. Is anyone going to stump up £8m (or anything approaching that) if they can take a punt on getting him for nothing in the summer? Michael Clayton
  • Score: -2

1:30pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Farsley Bantam says...

Michael Clayton wrote:
Halifax Bantam wrote:
Anyway its odds on that Cleverley will be sold in January making us even more financially stable, hopefully we can add 1 or 2 more quality loans now that Prem & Champ teams have done there transfer buisness leaving loads of players surplus. I see Middlesborough signed another winger yesterday, its a big hope but maybe we could see Reach back with us!
I hope you are correct. What is to stop him running down the remainder of his contract though?

As far as I understand, the only body to lose out would be Manchester United. Is anyone going to stump up £8m (or anything approaching that) if they can take a punt on getting him for nothing in the summer?
If one of the interested parties has a midfielder injury crisis then perhaps they would splash the cash in January.
People always pay over the odds in January through desperation usually.
Nahki Wells being a notable exception!
[quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Halifax Bantam[/bold] wrote: Anyway its odds on that Cleverley will be sold in January making us even more financially stable, hopefully we can add 1 or 2 more quality loans now that Prem & Champ teams have done there transfer buisness leaving loads of players surplus. I see Middlesborough signed another winger yesterday, its a big hope but maybe we could see Reach back with us![/p][/quote]I hope you are correct. What is to stop him running down the remainder of his contract though? As far as I understand, the only body to lose out would be Manchester United. Is anyone going to stump up £8m (or anything approaching that) if they can take a punt on getting him for nothing in the summer?[/p][/quote]If one of the interested parties has a midfielder injury crisis then perhaps they would splash the cash in January. People always pay over the odds in January through desperation usually. Nahki Wells being a notable exception! Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 0

1:42pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Michael Clayton says...

Farsley Bantam wrote:
Michael Clayton wrote:
Halifax Bantam wrote: Anyway its odds on that Cleverley will be sold in January making us even more financially stable, hopefully we can add 1 or 2 more quality loans now that Prem & Champ teams have done there transfer buisness leaving loads of players surplus. I see Middlesborough signed another winger yesterday, its a big hope but maybe we could see Reach back with us!
I hope you are correct. What is to stop him running down the remainder of his contract though? As far as I understand, the only body to lose out would be Manchester United. Is anyone going to stump up £8m (or anything approaching that) if they can take a punt on getting him for nothing in the summer?
If one of the interested parties has a midfielder injury crisis then perhaps they would splash the cash in January. People always pay over the odds in January through desperation usually. Nahki Wells being a notable exception!
Man United want a fee for him.

However, there might come a point when it it is a cheaper option to let him go on a free.

Nothing is certain of course. He might even get going at Old Trafford.
[quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Halifax Bantam[/bold] wrote: Anyway its odds on that Cleverley will be sold in January making us even more financially stable, hopefully we can add 1 or 2 more quality loans now that Prem & Champ teams have done there transfer buisness leaving loads of players surplus. I see Middlesborough signed another winger yesterday, its a big hope but maybe we could see Reach back with us![/p][/quote]I hope you are correct. What is to stop him running down the remainder of his contract though? As far as I understand, the only body to lose out would be Manchester United. Is anyone going to stump up £8m (or anything approaching that) if they can take a punt on getting him for nothing in the summer?[/p][/quote]If one of the interested parties has a midfielder injury crisis then perhaps they would splash the cash in January. People always pay over the odds in January through desperation usually. Nahki Wells being a notable exception![/p][/quote]Man United want a fee for him. However, there might come a point when it it is a cheaper option to let him go on a free. Nothing is certain of course. He might even get going at Old Trafford. Michael Clayton
  • Score: -3

2:29pm Tue 2 Sep 14

lawsonio123 says...

Michael Clayton wrote:
Halifax Bantam wrote:
Anyway its odds on that Cleverley will be sold in January making us even more financially stable, hopefully we can add 1 or 2 more quality loans now that Prem & Champ teams have done there transfer buisness leaving loads of players surplus. I see Middlesborough signed another winger yesterday, its a big hope but maybe we could see Reach back with us!
I hope you are correct. What is to stop him running down the remainder of his contract though?

As far as I understand, the only body to lose out would be Manchester United. Is anyone going to stump up £8m (or anything approaching that) if they can take a punt on getting him for nothing in the summer?
He can indeed run down his contract. But if left to train with the youth team till then his bargaining power would be much reduced and he could well finish up a faiding star not able to command a place with a top team. It will be in his own interests to move in January while he is still remembered yesterday he was either badly advised or greedy for in spite of his England caps he is now not international class Let us hope he moves on and City get something
[quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Halifax Bantam[/bold] wrote: Anyway its odds on that Cleverley will be sold in January making us even more financially stable, hopefully we can add 1 or 2 more quality loans now that Prem & Champ teams have done there transfer buisness leaving loads of players surplus. I see Middlesborough signed another winger yesterday, its a big hope but maybe we could see Reach back with us![/p][/quote]I hope you are correct. What is to stop him running down the remainder of his contract though? As far as I understand, the only body to lose out would be Manchester United. Is anyone going to stump up £8m (or anything approaching that) if they can take a punt on getting him for nothing in the summer?[/p][/quote]He can indeed run down his contract. But if left to train with the youth team till then his bargaining power would be much reduced and he could well finish up a faiding star not able to command a place with a top team. It will be in his own interests to move in January while he is still remembered yesterday he was either badly advised or greedy for in spite of his England caps he is now not international class Let us hope he moves on and City get something lawsonio123
  • Score: 2

3:01pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Farsley Bantam says...

lawsonio123 wrote:
Michael Clayton wrote:
Halifax Bantam wrote:
Anyway its odds on that Cleverley will be sold in January making us even more financially stable, hopefully we can add 1 or 2 more quality loans now that Prem & Champ teams have done there transfer buisness leaving loads of players surplus. I see Middlesborough signed another winger yesterday, its a big hope but maybe we could see Reach back with us!
I hope you are correct. What is to stop him running down the remainder of his contract though?

As far as I understand, the only body to lose out would be Manchester United. Is anyone going to stump up £8m (or anything approaching that) if they can take a punt on getting him for nothing in the summer?
He can indeed run down his contract. But if left to train with the youth team till then his bargaining power would be much reduced and he could well finish up a faiding star not able to command a place with a top team. It will be in his own interests to move in January while he is still remembered yesterday he was either badly advised or greedy for in spite of his England caps he is now not international class Let us hope he moves on and City get something
http://www.theguardi
an.com/football/2014
/sep/02/tom-cleverle
y-aston-villa-loan-m
anchester-united

Sickening if that sneaks through!
[quote][p][bold]lawsonio123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Halifax Bantam[/bold] wrote: Anyway its odds on that Cleverley will be sold in January making us even more financially stable, hopefully we can add 1 or 2 more quality loans now that Prem & Champ teams have done there transfer buisness leaving loads of players surplus. I see Middlesborough signed another winger yesterday, its a big hope but maybe we could see Reach back with us![/p][/quote]I hope you are correct. What is to stop him running down the remainder of his contract though? As far as I understand, the only body to lose out would be Manchester United. Is anyone going to stump up £8m (or anything approaching that) if they can take a punt on getting him for nothing in the summer?[/p][/quote]He can indeed run down his contract. But if left to train with the youth team till then his bargaining power would be much reduced and he could well finish up a faiding star not able to command a place with a top team. It will be in his own interests to move in January while he is still remembered yesterday he was either badly advised or greedy for in spite of his England caps he is now not international class Let us hope he moves on and City get something[/p][/quote]http://www.theguardi an.com/football/2014 /sep/02/tom-cleverle y-aston-villa-loan-m anchester-united Sickening if that sneaks through! Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 0

3:11pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Gary David says...

lawsonio123 wrote:
Michael Clayton wrote:
Halifax Bantam wrote:
Anyway its odds on that Cleverley will be sold in January making us even more financially stable, hopefully we can add 1 or 2 more quality loans now that Prem & Champ teams have done there transfer buisness leaving loads of players surplus. I see Middlesborough signed another winger yesterday, its a big hope but maybe we could see Reach back with us!
I hope you are correct. What is to stop him running down the remainder of his contract though?

As far as I understand, the only body to lose out would be Manchester United. Is anyone going to stump up £8m (or anything approaching that) if they can take a punt on getting him for nothing in the summer?
He can indeed run down his contract. But if left to train with the youth team till then his bargaining power would be much reduced and he could well finish up a faiding star not able to command a place with a top team. It will be in his own interests to move in January while he is still remembered yesterday he was either badly advised or greedy for in spite of his England caps he is now not international class Let us hope he moves on and City get something
Villa claim to have him on loan for the rest of the season if the fa sign the paper work of.this would make him a free agent next summer
[quote][p][bold]lawsonio123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Halifax Bantam[/bold] wrote: Anyway its odds on that Cleverley will be sold in January making us even more financially stable, hopefully we can add 1 or 2 more quality loans now that Prem & Champ teams have done there transfer buisness leaving loads of players surplus. I see Middlesborough signed another winger yesterday, its a big hope but maybe we could see Reach back with us![/p][/quote]I hope you are correct. What is to stop him running down the remainder of his contract though? As far as I understand, the only body to lose out would be Manchester United. Is anyone going to stump up £8m (or anything approaching that) if they can take a punt on getting him for nothing in the summer?[/p][/quote]He can indeed run down his contract. But if left to train with the youth team till then his bargaining power would be much reduced and he could well finish up a faiding star not able to command a place with a top team. It will be in his own interests to move in January while he is still remembered yesterday he was either badly advised or greedy for in spite of his England caps he is now not international class Let us hope he moves on and City get something[/p][/quote]Villa claim to have him on loan for the rest of the season if the fa sign the paper work of.this would make him a free agent next summer Gary David
  • Score: 0

4:18pm Tue 2 Sep 14

audal says...

Cleverley as indeed joined Villa on a season long loan meaning City have missed out on any % sell on clause. shame.
Cleverley as indeed joined Villa on a season long loan meaning City have missed out on any % sell on clause. shame. audal
  • Score: 0

4:57pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Michael Clayton says...

Farsley Bantam wrote:
lawsonio123 wrote:
Michael Clayton wrote:
Halifax Bantam wrote: Anyway its odds on that Cleverley will be sold in January making us even more financially stable, hopefully we can add 1 or 2 more quality loans now that Prem & Champ teams have done there transfer buisness leaving loads of players surplus. I see Middlesborough signed another winger yesterday, its a big hope but maybe we could see Reach back with us!
I hope you are correct. What is to stop him running down the remainder of his contract though? As far as I understand, the only body to lose out would be Manchester United. Is anyone going to stump up £8m (or anything approaching that) if they can take a punt on getting him for nothing in the summer?
He can indeed run down his contract. But if left to train with the youth team till then his bargaining power would be much reduced and he could well finish up a faiding star not able to command a place with a top team. It will be in his own interests to move in January while he is still remembered yesterday he was either badly advised or greedy for in spite of his England caps he is now not international class Let us hope he moves on and City get something
http://www.theguardi an.com/football/2014 /sep/02/tom-cleverle y-aston-villa-loan-m anchester-united Sickening if that sneaks through!
In playing fair, Everton have been deprived of a player that they might otherwise have secured. (We all know what the other implication is).

Typical of the bias towards the once great Manchester United.

If the FA sanction this, then surely they are making a mockery of their own rules?

Transfer deadline 1st September 2014 - 23:00; or so I though it was.
[quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lawsonio123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Halifax Bantam[/bold] wrote: Anyway its odds on that Cleverley will be sold in January making us even more financially stable, hopefully we can add 1 or 2 more quality loans now that Prem & Champ teams have done there transfer buisness leaving loads of players surplus. I see Middlesborough signed another winger yesterday, its a big hope but maybe we could see Reach back with us![/p][/quote]I hope you are correct. What is to stop him running down the remainder of his contract though? As far as I understand, the only body to lose out would be Manchester United. Is anyone going to stump up £8m (or anything approaching that) if they can take a punt on getting him for nothing in the summer?[/p][/quote]He can indeed run down his contract. But if left to train with the youth team till then his bargaining power would be much reduced and he could well finish up a faiding star not able to command a place with a top team. It will be in his own interests to move in January while he is still remembered yesterday he was either badly advised or greedy for in spite of his England caps he is now not international class Let us hope he moves on and City get something[/p][/quote]http://www.theguardi an.com/football/2014 /sep/02/tom-cleverle y-aston-villa-loan-m anchester-united Sickening if that sneaks through![/p][/quote]In playing fair, Everton have been deprived of a player that they might otherwise have secured. (We all know what the other implication is). Typical of the bias towards the once great Manchester United. If the FA sanction this, then surely they are making a mockery of their own rules? Transfer deadline 1st September 2014 - 23:00; or so I though it was. Michael Clayton
  • Score: -3

4:59pm Tue 2 Sep 14

bantam85 says...

I have read several reports that Tom Cleverley has signed for Villa on loan with the option to buy him for £7.5M. Why would Villa pay that amount for him in January when they can just leave it and get him for free in the summer? Also, have Villa paid a loan fee for him? I'm sure that when he went on loan to Wigan and Watford in his early career, Archie Christie looked into the details of his contract and found out we were also entitled to 10% of any loan fees.
I have read several reports that Tom Cleverley has signed for Villa on loan with the option to buy him for £7.5M. Why would Villa pay that amount for him in January when they can just leave it and get him for free in the summer? Also, have Villa paid a loan fee for him? I'm sure that when he went on loan to Wigan and Watford in his early career, Archie Christie looked into the details of his contract and found out we were also entitled to 10% of any loan fees. bantam85
  • Score: 1

4:59pm Tue 2 Sep 14

macca1969 says...

Freddy wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
If you like to go to Wembley so much why don't you go to Rochdale or Oldham tonight. You sound like a glory supporter freddy picking and choosing your games
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Very surprised at your totally unnecessary rhetoric. -MACCA 1969.
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As I am living hundreds of miles away, I can only attend certain matches. If you must know ?.
Both me and my Son are committed to work, of a difficult and sensitive nature. We can rarely get time off , that fits in with City Fixtures.
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Your sarcasm is disgraceful. Or are you in league with Peter 300 and ALL the other sarcastic commentators, who enjoy a secretive identity. Therefore, they feel they can insult genuine Supporters, and escape any form of punishment etc.
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I will , from this point in time, ignore any further sarcastic comments, from these very sad people.
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Freddy I do apologise I must have got out if the wrong side of the bed. It was extremely rude of me too attack you like that and I unreservedly apologise and hope that you read this. I know you are a staunch supporter of this club and enjoy your posts. I can honestly say I don't know what came over me
[quote][p][bold]Freddy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: If you like to go to Wembley so much why don't you go to Rochdale or Oldham tonight. You sound like a glory supporter freddy picking and choosing your games[/p][/quote]* Very surprised at your totally unnecessary rhetoric. -MACCA 1969. * As I am living hundreds of miles away, I can only attend certain matches. If you must know ?. Both me and my Son are committed to work, of a difficult and sensitive nature. We can rarely get time off , that fits in with City Fixtures. * Your sarcasm is disgraceful. Or are you in league with Peter 300 and ALL the other sarcastic commentators, who enjoy a secretive identity. Therefore, they feel they can insult genuine Supporters, and escape any form of punishment etc. * I will , from this point in time, ignore any further sarcastic comments, from these very sad people. * *[/p][/quote]Freddy I do apologise I must have got out if the wrong side of the bed. It was extremely rude of me too attack you like that and I unreservedly apologise and hope that you read this. I know you are a staunch supporter of this club and enjoy your posts. I can honestly say I don't know what came over me macca1969
  • Score: 4

5:02pm Tue 2 Sep 14

macca1969 says...

pokertee wrote:
for starters we are not 600,000 in debt thats what we need for the long season as other clubs need to. we need around 1.2 million to run the club year to year and our defecit is around 600,000 most clubs have a far bigger one. we dont need to sell players we are in good financial standing.
take a look at our cash low here: http://companycheck.

co.uk/company/051029

15/BRADFORD-CITY-FOO

TBALL-CLUB-LIMITED
If at the end of the year we have a 600k hole that deficit becomes debt doesit not? Last season we were told we had a deficit of around 800k and that we had no choice but to sell Wells who still had 18 months on his contract
[quote][p][bold]pokertee[/bold] wrote: for starters we are not 600,000 in debt thats what we need for the long season as other clubs need to. we need around 1.2 million to run the club year to year and our defecit is around 600,000 most clubs have a far bigger one. we dont need to sell players we are in good financial standing. take a look at our cash low here: http://companycheck. co.uk/company/051029 15/BRADFORD-CITY-FOO TBALL-CLUB-LIMITED[/p][/quote]If at the end of the year we have a 600k hole that deficit becomes debt doesit not? Last season we were told we had a deficit of around 800k and that we had no choice but to sell Wells who still had 18 months on his contract macca1969
  • Score: 0

5:07pm Tue 2 Sep 14

macca1969 says...

Peter300 wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Will we now have to sell another asset now the cleverley deal has fallen through. We were led to believe that the money was ear marked to cover a 600k deficit, so how will we cover that now? Surely our only asset of any real value is Hanson and should we sell him this would not go down very well with the majority of supporters.

It is very worrying that we are probably 4-5 players short of a squad deep enough to challenge for the whole season but still we are over budget by over half a million pounds. Hope the club have a back up plan that doesn't involve pimping out our best plsyers
No matter how well the club start, you cannot remove the negativity from some fans and this is a good example. City have had a better start than probably most people expected given the downbeat comments from the usual suspects and here we have somebody who is very worried about something that may or may not happen sometime in the future. I think the last sentence reveals more about the attitude of the poster than the club.
I was not being negative about our team but at the reasons as to why with the Wells money and a cut in the budget that we are still running with the deficit Baldwin quoted? The deficit wasn't that much bigger last year but forced the board into pimping Wells. No matter what anyone says the board put it out that Wells was up for sale long before the lad stopped playing.
[quote][p][bold]Peter300[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: Will we now have to sell another asset now the cleverley deal has fallen through. We were led to believe that the money was ear marked to cover a 600k deficit, so how will we cover that now? Surely our only asset of any real value is Hanson and should we sell him this would not go down very well with the majority of supporters. It is very worrying that we are probably 4-5 players short of a squad deep enough to challenge for the whole season but still we are over budget by over half a million pounds. Hope the club have a back up plan that doesn't involve pimping out our best plsyers[/p][/quote]No matter how well the club start, you cannot remove the negativity from some fans and this is a good example. City have had a better start than probably most people expected given the downbeat comments from the usual suspects and here we have somebody who is very worried about something that may or may not happen sometime in the future. I think the last sentence reveals more about the attitude of the poster than the club.[/p][/quote]I was not being negative about our team but at the reasons as to why with the Wells money and a cut in the budget that we are still running with the deficit Baldwin quoted? The deficit wasn't that much bigger last year but forced the board into pimping Wells. No matter what anyone says the board put it out that Wells was up for sale long before the lad stopped playing. macca1969
  • Score: 1

5:19pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Michael Clayton says...

macca1969 wrote:
Freddy wrote:
macca1969 wrote: If you like to go to Wembley so much why don't you go to Rochdale or Oldham tonight. You sound like a glory supporter freddy picking and choosing your games
* Very surprised at your totally unnecessary rhetoric. -MACCA 1969. * As I am living hundreds of miles away, I can only attend certain matches. If you must know ?. Both me and my Son are committed to work, of a difficult and sensitive nature. We can rarely get time off , that fits in with City Fixtures. * Your sarcasm is disgraceful. Or are you in league with Peter 300 and ALL the other sarcastic commentators, who enjoy a secretive identity. Therefore, they feel they can insult genuine Supporters, and escape any form of punishment etc. * I will , from this point in time, ignore any further sarcastic comments, from these very sad people. * *
Freddy I do apologise I must have got out if the wrong side of the bed. It was extremely rude of me too attack you like that and I unreservedly apologise and hope that you read this. I know you are a staunch supporter of this club and enjoy your posts. I can honestly say I don't know what came over me
Annoyance at the Cleverley situation?

Sorry to hijack your apology.

It is water under the bridge and circumstances are not the same but I cannot help thinking about the Mark Stewart saga.

That £200,000+ compensation bill could have led to liquidation at another time and yet the likes of Manchester United can more or less do as they please. Sickening.
[quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Freddy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: If you like to go to Wembley so much why don't you go to Rochdale or Oldham tonight. You sound like a glory supporter freddy picking and choosing your games[/p][/quote]* Very surprised at your totally unnecessary rhetoric. -MACCA 1969. * As I am living hundreds of miles away, I can only attend certain matches. If you must know ?. Both me and my Son are committed to work, of a difficult and sensitive nature. We can rarely get time off , that fits in with City Fixtures. * Your sarcasm is disgraceful. Or are you in league with Peter 300 and ALL the other sarcastic commentators, who enjoy a secretive identity. Therefore, they feel they can insult genuine Supporters, and escape any form of punishment etc. * I will , from this point in time, ignore any further sarcastic comments, from these very sad people. * *[/p][/quote]Freddy I do apologise I must have got out if the wrong side of the bed. It was extremely rude of me too attack you like that and I unreservedly apologise and hope that you read this. I know you are a staunch supporter of this club and enjoy your posts. I can honestly say I don't know what came over me[/p][/quote]Annoyance at the Cleverley situation? Sorry to hijack your apology. It is water under the bridge and circumstances are not the same but I cannot help thinking about the Mark Stewart saga. That £200,000+ compensation bill could have led to liquidation at another time and yet the likes of Manchester United can more or less do as they please. Sickening. Michael Clayton
  • Score: -3

5:27pm Tue 2 Sep 14

macca1969 says...

Michael Clayton wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Freddy wrote:
macca1969 wrote: If you like to go to Wembley so much why don't you go to Rochdale or Oldham tonight. You sound like a glory supporter freddy picking and choosing your games
* Very surprised at your totally unnecessary rhetoric. -MACCA 1969. * As I am living hundreds of miles away, I can only attend certain matches. If you must know ?. Both me and my Son are committed to work, of a difficult and sensitive nature. We can rarely get time off , that fits in with City Fixtures. * Your sarcasm is disgraceful. Or are you in league with Peter 300 and ALL the other sarcastic commentators, who enjoy a secretive identity. Therefore, they feel they can insult genuine Supporters, and escape any form of punishment etc. * I will , from this point in time, ignore any further sarcastic comments, from these very sad people. * *
Freddy I do apologise I must have got out if the wrong side of the bed. It was extremely rude of me too attack you like that and I unreservedly apologise and hope that you read this. I know you are a staunch supporter of this club and enjoy your posts. I can honestly say I don't know what came over me
Annoyance at the Cleverley situation?

Sorry to hijack your apology.

It is water under the bridge and circumstances are not the same but I cannot help thinking about the Mark Stewart saga.

That £200,000+ compensation bill could have led to liquidation at another time and yet the likes of Manchester United can more or less do as they please. Sickening.
You are probably correct as I was also looking forward to the windfall. I know that the board do what they can but sometimes lack of funds to really compete is frustrating. I was hoping that the extra cash would help the best city manager in decades to help push the club closer to a genuine promotion push. I fear without the extra money we will always have to sell our star players causing stagnation and maybe a change in manager if he becomes frustrated
[quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Freddy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: If you like to go to Wembley so much why don't you go to Rochdale or Oldham tonight. You sound like a glory supporter freddy picking and choosing your games[/p][/quote]* Very surprised at your totally unnecessary rhetoric. -MACCA 1969. * As I am living hundreds of miles away, I can only attend certain matches. If you must know ?. Both me and my Son are committed to work, of a difficult and sensitive nature. We can rarely get time off , that fits in with City Fixtures. * Your sarcasm is disgraceful. Or are you in league with Peter 300 and ALL the other sarcastic commentators, who enjoy a secretive identity. Therefore, they feel they can insult genuine Supporters, and escape any form of punishment etc. * I will , from this point in time, ignore any further sarcastic comments, from these very sad people. * *[/p][/quote]Freddy I do apologise I must have got out if the wrong side of the bed. It was extremely rude of me too attack you like that and I unreservedly apologise and hope that you read this. I know you are a staunch supporter of this club and enjoy your posts. I can honestly say I don't know what came over me[/p][/quote]Annoyance at the Cleverley situation? Sorry to hijack your apology. It is water under the bridge and circumstances are not the same but I cannot help thinking about the Mark Stewart saga. That £200,000+ compensation bill could have led to liquidation at another time and yet the likes of Manchester United can more or less do as they please. Sickening.[/p][/quote]You are probably correct as I was also looking forward to the windfall. I know that the board do what they can but sometimes lack of funds to really compete is frustrating. I was hoping that the extra cash would help the best city manager in decades to help push the club closer to a genuine promotion push. I fear without the extra money we will always have to sell our star players causing stagnation and maybe a change in manager if he becomes frustrated macca1969
  • Score: 3

8:36pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Bernerd says...

I watched Clev , Andre. George and Fabian along with other young lads that have gone on to a higher level. I find it obnoxious that Man Utd and the likes can come in and take our players without much financial risk *by their standards) and even think of a way to get out of a sell on clause by bending the rules. I would love a reason to like that club ? Shame on them from a great height. I hope they get relegated (If only)
I watched Clev , Andre. George and Fabian along with other young lads that have gone on to a higher level. I find it obnoxious that Man Utd and the likes can come in and take our players without much financial risk *by their standards) and even think of a way to get out of a sell on clause by bending the rules. I would love a reason to like that club ? Shame on them from a great height. I hope they get relegated (If only) Bernerd
  • Score: 2

9:46pm Tue 2 Sep 14

lawsonio123 says...

macca1969 wrote:
Freddy wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
If you like to go to Wembley so much why don't you go to Rochdale or Oldham tonight. You sound like a glory supporter freddy picking and choosing your games
*
Very surprised at your totally unnecessary rhetoric. -MACCA 1969.
*
As I am living hundreds of miles away, I can only attend certain matches. If you must know ?.
Both me and my Son are committed to work, of a difficult and sensitive nature. We can rarely get time off , that fits in with City Fixtures.
*
Your sarcasm is disgraceful. Or are you in league with Peter 300 and ALL the other sarcastic commentators, who enjoy a secretive identity. Therefore, they feel they can insult genuine Supporters, and escape any form of punishment etc.
*
I will , from this point in time, ignore any further sarcastic comments, from these very sad people.
*
*
Freddy I do apologise I must have got out if the wrong side of the bed. It was extremely rude of me too attack you like that and I unreservedly apologise and hope that you read this. I know you are a staunch supporter of this club and enjoy your posts. I can honestly say I don't know what came over me
MACCA1969 Well done for your apology it takes a man to do so. I am sure Freddy will forgive you for we are all supporters
[quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Freddy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: If you like to go to Wembley so much why don't you go to Rochdale or Oldham tonight. You sound like a glory supporter freddy picking and choosing your games[/p][/quote]* Very surprised at your totally unnecessary rhetoric. -MACCA 1969. * As I am living hundreds of miles away, I can only attend certain matches. If you must know ?. Both me and my Son are committed to work, of a difficult and sensitive nature. We can rarely get time off , that fits in with City Fixtures. * Your sarcasm is disgraceful. Or are you in league with Peter 300 and ALL the other sarcastic commentators, who enjoy a secretive identity. Therefore, they feel they can insult genuine Supporters, and escape any form of punishment etc. * I will , from this point in time, ignore any further sarcastic comments, from these very sad people. * *[/p][/quote]Freddy I do apologise I must have got out if the wrong side of the bed. It was extremely rude of me too attack you like that and I unreservedly apologise and hope that you read this. I know you are a staunch supporter of this club and enjoy your posts. I can honestly say I don't know what came over me[/p][/quote]MACCA1969 Well done for your apology it takes a man to do so. I am sure Freddy will forgive you for we are all supporters lawsonio123
  • Score: 2

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