For a manager to be under pressure after four games is ridiculous - Parkinson's sympathy for Leeds boss as rival feels the heat

Massimo Cellino and David Hockaday in happier times

Massimo Cellino and David Hockaday in happier times

First published in Sport Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Photograph of the Author by , Bradford City Reporter

UNDER-FIRE Leeds boss David Hockaday has received derby-day backing from Phil Parkinson over the “crazy” situation at Elland Road.

Controversial owner Massimo Cellino was poised to axe Hockaday after Saturday’s 4-1 defeat to Watford but reversed his decision 24 hours later.

Hockaday’s future still hangs in the balance and City chief Parkinson said: “Dave is working hard, like we all are, to piece a squad together to bring success to Leeds.

“For him to be the one whose head is about to roll after a defeat is crazy.

“One man stands out there in the dug-out and takes that responsibility. But there are other people in that club who’ve got to be equally as culpable.

“For a manager to be under pressure after four games is ridiculous. It does gripe on me a lot.”

Hockaday had a two-hour conversation with Cellino on Sunday when he was told his job was safe – for now.

Hockaday, who has lost three out of four in the Championship, said: “I didn’t feel I had to justify anything or defend myself. I’m not daft, I know the pressures but then I start wandering away from my remit.

“If I believed everything I read and heard, I could be in the eye of a storm. But then I’m lost and the team’s lost.

“However he is portrayed, the president is unbelievable passionate. This guy wants Leeds to be in the Champions League.

“I believe that will happen over time; it’s inevitable. The timescale I don’t know but I want to be part of that journey.”

Danish international Casper Sloth became the 12th signing of the summer on Monday but the midfielder is not expected to be involved against City.

Souleymane Doukara, Steve Morison and Aidy White are still out while Sam Byram and Giuseppe Bellusci are both suspended.

Hockaday added: “It’s a big game. I was always told that this is one of the six major conurbations in the league.

“It’s massive for both sets of fans. In my career I’ve been involved in lots of local derbies and everyone thinks theirs is the biggest.”

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7:01am Wed 27 Aug 14

Lufc1979 says...

Look if you realise you have employed the wrong person and after five games you can see it isn't going to work it makes perfect sense to sack them.

What's the point in waiting 20 games, it only makes the job harder to turn around.

Hockaday was a mistake, end of. Time to move on.
Look if you realise you have employed the wrong person and after five games you can see it isn't going to work it makes perfect sense to sack them. What's the point in waiting 20 games, it only makes the job harder to turn around. Hockaday was a mistake, end of. Time to move on. Lufc1979
  • Score: 2

7:40am Wed 27 Aug 14

Go Torps! Yer flying. says...

Lufc1979 wrote:
Look if you realise you have employed the wrong person and after five games you can see it isn't going to work it makes perfect sense to sack them.

What's the point in waiting 20 games, it only makes the job harder to turn around.

Hockaday was a mistake, end of. Time to move on.
You're right, my very depressed Beeston friend. This evening at about 11pm would be the perfect time to move him on, probably back to managing his local pub team. He could take half of your first team....?
[quote][p][bold]Lufc1979[/bold] wrote: Look if you realise you have employed the wrong person and after five games you can see it isn't going to work it makes perfect sense to sack them. What's the point in waiting 20 games, it only makes the job harder to turn around. Hockaday was a mistake, end of. Time to move on.[/p][/quote]You're right, my very depressed Beeston friend. This evening at about 11pm would be the perfect time to move him on, probably back to managing his local pub team. He could take half of your first team....? Go Torps! Yer flying.
  • Score: 8

7:47am Wed 27 Aug 14

Freddy says...

*
It is so easy to blame the Manager. It is so easy to sack the Manager. Chairmen and Supporters want instant success. It is death or glory on every match played. " It's War out there ! " -Shankly said--" No-Lad, it's worse than that !!! ". Who would want to be a football Manager today ?.
It used to take some time to put your squad together. To get them to gel. But ,today-that's not acceptable.
*
Only 12 hours to go to tonight's much wanted 'Cup Derby' . Again it will be death or glory, and bragging rights next day at work. If L**ds lose. Then their Manager will almost inevitably be even closer to being sacked.
*
I will have to see it on TV. But I wish I could be there. The atmosphere will be much more than electric. It will be 'Lightening Charged'. You can not better, watching a match of these proportions, BUT, you MUST BE THERE.
C'Mon City !!!
*
* It is so easy to blame the Manager. It is so easy to sack the Manager. Chairmen and Supporters want instant success. It is death or glory on every match played. " It's War out there ! " -Shankly said--" No-Lad, it's worse than that !!! ". Who would want to be a football Manager today ?. It used to take some time to put your squad together. To get them to gel. But ,today-that's not acceptable. * Only 12 hours to go to tonight's much wanted 'Cup Derby' . Again it will be death or glory, and bragging rights next day at work. If L**ds lose. Then their Manager will almost inevitably be even closer to being sacked. * I will have to see it on TV. But I wish I could be there. The atmosphere will be much more than electric. It will be 'Lightening Charged'. You can not better, watching a match of these proportions, BUT, you MUST BE THERE. C'Mon City !!! * Freddy
  • Score: 5

7:54am Wed 27 Aug 14

Michael Clayton says...

Lufc1979 wrote:
Look if you realise you have employed the wrong person and after five games you can see it isn't going to work it makes perfect sense to sack them. What's the point in waiting 20 games, it only makes the job harder to turn around. Hockaday was a mistake, end of. Time to move on.
The employer reasoned on appointing a perfectly capable coach (in Hockaday) and not appointing a manager.

I don't see how you will "move on" if or when the next appointment is made. What evidence is there to show that the tail-spin will stop?

Even though Bradford are at a lower level, there is a feeling of real stability that has not been evident at Leeds since the sale of Rio Ferdinand.

Unfortunately, I think that Hockaday will get sacked but he is only the scapegoat; rather likes Moyes was and counless others as well.
[quote][p][bold]Lufc1979[/bold] wrote: Look if you realise you have employed the wrong person and after five games you can see it isn't going to work it makes perfect sense to sack them. What's the point in waiting 20 games, it only makes the job harder to turn around. Hockaday was a mistake, end of. Time to move on.[/p][/quote]The employer reasoned on appointing a perfectly capable coach (in Hockaday) and not appointing a manager. I don't see how you will "move on" if or when the next appointment is made. What evidence is there to show that the tail-spin will stop? Even though Bradford are at a lower level, there is a feeling of real stability that has not been evident at Leeds since the sale of Rio Ferdinand. Unfortunately, I think that Hockaday will get sacked but he is only the scapegoat; rather likes Moyes was and counless others as well. Michael Clayton
  • Score: 5

8:25am Wed 27 Aug 14

whisky1 says...

The present hilarious chaos is of course Karma for the Dirties cheating and gamesmanship in the 70s..oh how the Godfather and the white sh4t£ deserve each other
The present hilarious chaos is of course Karma for the Dirties cheating and gamesmanship in the 70s..oh how the Godfather and the white sh4t£ deserve each other whisky1
  • Score: -4

8:29am Wed 27 Aug 14

Nickloza says...

I hope they don't sack him, he's doing a fantastic job and long may it continue.
I hope they don't sack him, he's doing a fantastic job and long may it continue. Nickloza
  • Score: 16

9:03am Wed 27 Aug 14

Cowboy Song says...

Got to laugh about having a sloth in midfield(not tonight though by the sound of it)
Got to laugh about having a sloth in midfield(not tonight though by the sound of it) Cowboy Song
  • Score: 4

9:18am Wed 27 Aug 14

Keighley Exile says...

Go Torps! Yer flying. wrote:
Lufc1979 wrote:
Look if you realise you have employed the wrong person and after five games you can see it isn't going to work it makes perfect sense to sack them.

What's the point in waiting 20 games, it only makes the job harder to turn around.

Hockaday was a mistake, end of. Time to move on.
You're right, my very depressed Beeston friend. This evening at about 11pm would be the perfect time to move him on, probably back to managing his local pub team. He could take half of your first team....?
Unfortunately, half the Leeds first team may not make it into Hockaday's local pub team. Played four league games, a very fortunate win v Middlesbrough, otherwise three bad defeats. Eight goals conceded, two scored - and one of them was an own goal. More red cards than goals. If Bradford don't win this game tonight they want to have a serious word with themselves.
[quote][p][bold]Go Torps! Yer flying.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lufc1979[/bold] wrote: Look if you realise you have employed the wrong person and after five games you can see it isn't going to work it makes perfect sense to sack them. What's the point in waiting 20 games, it only makes the job harder to turn around. Hockaday was a mistake, end of. Time to move on.[/p][/quote]You're right, my very depressed Beeston friend. This evening at about 11pm would be the perfect time to move him on, probably back to managing his local pub team. He could take half of your first team....?[/p][/quote]Unfortunately, half the Leeds first team may not make it into Hockaday's local pub team. Played four league games, a very fortunate win v Middlesbrough, otherwise three bad defeats. Eight goals conceded, two scored - and one of them was an own goal. More red cards than goals. If Bradford don't win this game tonight they want to have a serious word with themselves. Keighley Exile
  • Score: 1

10:18am Wed 27 Aug 14

Peter300 says...

Lufc1979 wrote:
Look if you realise you have employed the wrong person and after five games you can see it isn't going to work it makes perfect sense to sack them.

What's the point in waiting 20 games, it only makes the job harder to turn around.

Hockaday was a mistake, end of. Time to move on.
You don't know that. A daft outlook really. A dozen new players. People like you do not deserve success.
[quote][p][bold]Lufc1979[/bold] wrote: Look if you realise you have employed the wrong person and after five games you can see it isn't going to work it makes perfect sense to sack them. What's the point in waiting 20 games, it only makes the job harder to turn around. Hockaday was a mistake, end of. Time to move on.[/p][/quote]You don't know that. A daft outlook really. A dozen new players. People like you do not deserve success. Peter300
  • Score: 4

10:21am Wed 27 Aug 14

Peter300 says...

Michael Clayton wrote:
Lufc1979 wrote:
Look if you realise you have employed the wrong person and after five games you can see it isn't going to work it makes perfect sense to sack them. What's the point in waiting 20 games, it only makes the job harder to turn around. Hockaday was a mistake, end of. Time to move on.
The employer reasoned on appointing a perfectly capable coach (in Hockaday) and not appointing a manager.

I don't see how you will "move on" if or when the next appointment is made. What evidence is there to show that the tail-spin will stop?

Even though Bradford are at a lower level, there is a feeling of real stability that has not been evident at Leeds since the sale of Rio Ferdinand.

Unfortunately, I think that Hockaday will get sacked but he is only the scapegoat; rather likes Moyes was and counless others as well.
The stability that wanted Phil Parkinson sacked last season? There are lots of people on here who wanted Phil sacked. Some of them are posting now. The others will be back after a couple of defeats.
[quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lufc1979[/bold] wrote: Look if you realise you have employed the wrong person and after five games you can see it isn't going to work it makes perfect sense to sack them. What's the point in waiting 20 games, it only makes the job harder to turn around. Hockaday was a mistake, end of. Time to move on.[/p][/quote]The employer reasoned on appointing a perfectly capable coach (in Hockaday) and not appointing a manager. I don't see how you will "move on" if or when the next appointment is made. What evidence is there to show that the tail-spin will stop? Even though Bradford are at a lower level, there is a feeling of real stability that has not been evident at Leeds since the sale of Rio Ferdinand. Unfortunately, I think that Hockaday will get sacked but he is only the scapegoat; rather likes Moyes was and counless others as well.[/p][/quote]The stability that wanted Phil Parkinson sacked last season? There are lots of people on here who wanted Phil sacked. Some of them are posting now. The others will be back after a couple of defeats. Peter300
  • Score: 4

10:26am Wed 27 Aug 14

Peter300 says...

Keighley Exile wrote:
Go Torps! Yer flying. wrote:
Lufc1979 wrote:
Look if you realise you have employed the wrong person and after five games you can see it isn't going to work it makes perfect sense to sack them.

What's the point in waiting 20 games, it only makes the job harder to turn around.

Hockaday was a mistake, end of. Time to move on.
You're right, my very depressed Beeston friend. This evening at about 11pm would be the perfect time to move him on, probably back to managing his local pub team. He could take half of your first team....?
Unfortunately, half the Leeds first team may not make it into Hockaday's local pub team. Played four league games, a very fortunate win v Middlesbrough, otherwise three bad defeats. Eight goals conceded, two scored - and one of them was an own goal. More red cards than goals. If Bradford don't win this game tonight they want to have a serious word with themselves.
Not really. With defeatist fans like you I would not blame the players for chucking in the towel. Why bother for fans who give up after five games - two of which were won. And the reaction to the win over Accrington shows how arrogant fans of a 'big' club become.
[quote][p][bold]Keighley Exile[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Go Torps! Yer flying.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lufc1979[/bold] wrote: Look if you realise you have employed the wrong person and after five games you can see it isn't going to work it makes perfect sense to sack them. What's the point in waiting 20 games, it only makes the job harder to turn around. Hockaday was a mistake, end of. Time to move on.[/p][/quote]You're right, my very depressed Beeston friend. This evening at about 11pm would be the perfect time to move him on, probably back to managing his local pub team. He could take half of your first team....?[/p][/quote]Unfortunately, half the Leeds first team may not make it into Hockaday's local pub team. Played four league games, a very fortunate win v Middlesbrough, otherwise three bad defeats. Eight goals conceded, two scored - and one of them was an own goal. More red cards than goals. If Bradford don't win this game tonight they want to have a serious word with themselves.[/p][/quote]Not really. With defeatist fans like you I would not blame the players for chucking in the towel. Why bother for fans who give up after five games - two of which were won. And the reaction to the win over Accrington shows how arrogant fans of a 'big' club become. Peter300
  • Score: 3

10:30am Wed 27 Aug 14

Peter300 says...

Freddy wrote:
*
It is so easy to blame the Manager. It is so easy to sack the Manager. Chairmen and Supporters want instant success. It is death or glory on every match played. " It's War out there ! " -Shankly said--" No-Lad, it's worse than that !!! ". Who would want to be a football Manager today ?.
It used to take some time to put your squad together. To get them to gel. But ,today-that's not acceptable.
*
Only 12 hours to go to tonight's much wanted 'Cup Derby' . Again it will be death or glory, and bragging rights next day at work. If L**ds lose. Then their Manager will almost inevitably be even closer to being sacked.
*
I will have to see it on TV. But I wish I could be there. The atmosphere will be much more than electric. It will be 'Lightening Charged'. You can not better, watching a match of these proportions, BUT, you MUST BE THERE.
C'Mon City !!!
*
Aye, get your feet up and enjoy the match Freddy!
[quote][p][bold]Freddy[/bold] wrote: * It is so easy to blame the Manager. It is so easy to sack the Manager. Chairmen and Supporters want instant success. It is death or glory on every match played. " It's War out there ! " -Shankly said--" No-Lad, it's worse than that !!! ". Who would want to be a football Manager today ?. It used to take some time to put your squad together. To get them to gel. But ,today-that's not acceptable. * Only 12 hours to go to tonight's much wanted 'Cup Derby' . Again it will be death or glory, and bragging rights next day at work. If L**ds lose. Then their Manager will almost inevitably be even closer to being sacked. * I will have to see it on TV. But I wish I could be there. The atmosphere will be much more than electric. It will be 'Lightening Charged'. You can not better, watching a match of these proportions, BUT, you MUST BE THERE. C'Mon City !!! *[/p][/quote]Aye, get your feet up and enjoy the match Freddy! Peter300
  • Score: 4

11:00am Wed 27 Aug 14

browy says...

Cowboy Song wrote:
Got to laugh about having a sloth in midfield(not tonight though by the sound of it)
Cheap comment. His name is pronounced Sloch.
[quote][p][bold]Cowboy Song[/bold] wrote: Got to laugh about having a sloth in midfield(not tonight though by the sound of it)[/p][/quote]Cheap comment. His name is pronounced Sloch. browy
  • Score: -2

11:02am Wed 27 Aug 14

browy says...

Cowboy Song wrote:
Got to laugh about having a sloth in midfield(not tonight though by the sound of it)
Cheap comment. His name is pronounced Sloch.
[quote][p][bold]Cowboy Song[/bold] wrote: Got to laugh about having a sloth in midfield(not tonight though by the sound of it)[/p][/quote]Cheap comment. His name is pronounced Sloch. browy
  • Score: -4

11:14am Wed 27 Aug 14

Michael Clayton says...

Peter300 wrote:
Freddy wrote: * It is so easy to blame the Manager. It is so easy to sack the Manager. Chairmen and Supporters want instant success. It is death or glory on every match played. " It's War out there ! " -Shankly said--" No-Lad, it's worse than that !!! ". Who would want to be a football Manager today ?. It used to take some time to put your squad together. To get them to gel. But ,today-that's not acceptable. * Only 12 hours to go to tonight's much wanted 'Cup Derby' . Again it will be death or glory, and bragging rights next day at work. If L**ds lose. Then their Manager will almost inevitably be even closer to being sacked. * I will have to see it on TV. But I wish I could be there. The atmosphere will be much more than electric. It will be 'Lightening Charged'. You can not better, watching a match of these proportions, BUT, you MUST BE THERE. C'Mon City !!! *
Aye, get your feet up and enjoy the match Freddy!
On that note, anyone without Sky TV may wish to avail themselves of the facilities in the Second West?

On 'Second' thoughts, get there early as the regulars won't be making their way to VP at this stage of the competition.
[quote][p][bold]Peter300[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Freddy[/bold] wrote: * It is so easy to blame the Manager. It is so easy to sack the Manager. Chairmen and Supporters want instant success. It is death or glory on every match played. " It's War out there ! " -Shankly said--" No-Lad, it's worse than that !!! ". Who would want to be a football Manager today ?. It used to take some time to put your squad together. To get them to gel. But ,today-that's not acceptable. * Only 12 hours to go to tonight's much wanted 'Cup Derby' . Again it will be death or glory, and bragging rights next day at work. If L**ds lose. Then their Manager will almost inevitably be even closer to being sacked. * I will have to see it on TV. But I wish I could be there. The atmosphere will be much more than electric. It will be 'Lightening Charged'. You can not better, watching a match of these proportions, BUT, you MUST BE THERE. C'Mon City !!! *[/p][/quote]Aye, get your feet up and enjoy the match Freddy![/p][/quote]On that note, anyone without Sky TV may wish to avail themselves of the facilities in the Second West? On 'Second' thoughts, get there early as the regulars won't be making their way to VP at this stage of the competition. Michael Clayton
  • Score: 0

11:35am Wed 27 Aug 14

lawsonio123 says...

you all have the match already won But this game is to close to call and will require City,s best performance to ensure success tonight. The best thing you can all do to help is to make such a din like the Hampton Roar which was a hell of a noise if this does not scare the Leeds players nothing will Let us hope the net bulges tonight and it City that Bulges it GOOD LUCK LADS YOU CAN DO IT
you all have the match already won But this game is to close to call and will require City,s best performance to ensure success tonight. The best thing you can all do to help is to make such a din like the Hampton Roar which was a hell of a noise if this does not scare the Leeds players nothing will Let us hope the net bulges tonight and it City that Bulges it GOOD LUCK LADS YOU CAN DO IT lawsonio123
  • Score: 2

1:38pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Bantam76 says...

This is City's best chance of putting one over on Beeston Disjoined! WE CAN DO THIS.

I have the misfortune of having three brothers who all support the unmentionable, so it's not just bragging rights at work, it's bragging rights in the family too! I was ten when we last beat them...

Saw a reminder clip of Beagrie's power dipper when they beat us first season back in the top flight, followed by Stan's volley. What I wouldn't give for us to bag a couple like that again, it'd rip the roof off VP! CTID
This is City's best chance of putting one over on Beeston Disjoined! WE CAN DO THIS. I have the misfortune of having three brothers who all support the unmentionable, so it's not just bragging rights at work, it's bragging rights in the family too! I was ten when we last beat them... Saw a reminder clip of Beagrie's power dipper when they beat us first season back in the top flight, followed by Stan's volley. What I wouldn't give for us to bag a couple like that again, it'd rip the roof off VP! CTID Bantam76
  • Score: -1

1:49pm Wed 27 Aug 14

nowt fresh says...

lawsonio123 wrote:
you all have the match already won But this game is to close to call and will require City,s best performance to ensure success tonight. The best thing you can all do to help is to make such a din like the Hampton Roar which was a hell of a noise if this does not scare the Leeds players nothing will Let us hope the net bulges tonight and it City that Bulges it GOOD LUCK LADS YOU CAN DO IT
Giving your age away there lawsonio re the Hampden Park Roar I was there for the Scotland V England game 1967 and as you say the Scots made quite a noise, I believe tonight will be a very intimidating atmosphere for sure but these Leeds players face 20,000+ every home game, I'll take another Morecambe goal in the 84th minute if you know what I mean :-)) .
[quote][p][bold]lawsonio123[/bold] wrote: you all have the match already won But this game is to close to call and will require City,s best performance to ensure success tonight. The best thing you can all do to help is to make such a din like the Hampton Roar which was a hell of a noise if this does not scare the Leeds players nothing will Let us hope the net bulges tonight and it City that Bulges it GOOD LUCK LADS YOU CAN DO IT[/p][/quote]Giving your age away there lawsonio re the Hampden Park Roar I was there for the Scotland V England game 1967 and as you say the Scots made quite a noise, I believe tonight will be a very intimidating atmosphere for sure but these Leeds players face 20,000+ every home game, I'll take another Morecambe goal in the 84th minute if you know what I mean :-)) . nowt fresh
  • Score: 2

4:49pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Cowboy Song says...

browy wrote:
Cowboy Song wrote:
Got to laugh about having a sloth in midfield(not tonight though by the sound of it)
Cheap comment. His name is pronounced Sloch.
Reading as it is written it looks like Sloth, so your correction is not required.
[quote][p][bold]browy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cowboy Song[/bold] wrote: Got to laugh about having a sloth in midfield(not tonight though by the sound of it)[/p][/quote]Cheap comment. His name is pronounced Sloch.[/p][/quote]Reading as it is written it looks like Sloth, so your correction is not required. Cowboy Song
  • Score: 0
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