Bradford City recruits need to be more than just bench-warmers

Phil Parkinson used nine trialists in Tuesday's friendly at Park Avenue

Phil Parkinson used nine trialists in Tuesday's friendly at Park Avenue

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PHIL Parkinson insists that any trialists offered deals by City will be more than just makeweights.

The Bantams boss will use today's monthly board meeting to stress the need for greater numbers in his slimline squad.

Parkinson has been assessing a host of trialists during pre-season and has not ruled out looking at more before the season kicks off a week on Saturday.

But he stressed that anyone he decides to keep on will be there on merit, not just necessity.

"I need to discuss things with the board at the meeting," said Parkinson.

"At the moment we've got 14-15 senior players and one goalkeeper signed up. That's not enough.

"We need to add to it, certainly before the end of August but if possible before next week.

"But we don't want to get bodies in for the sake of it. We want to get players we can trust to wear a Bradford City shirt when the season kicks off – that's the key.

"It's no good getting people in here just to sit on the bench because obviously we've got scholars who can do that.

"They have got to be players we feel can make contributions. They've got to be able to threaten the starting 11."

City fielded nine trialists in Tuesday's friendly at Park Avenue, a game hastily drawn up specifically for that purpose.

Parkinson said: "We've obviously seen them in training but some of the trialists needed a game. It was arranged at short notice but I think it was a worthwhile exercise.

"We threw a team together and the attitude was spot on. A few of them did themselves no harm and will be involved against Hartlepool on Saturday."

With so many players still without clubs, Parkinson will continue to scan the market for possible further arrivals ahead of the big kick-off against Coventry.

The City boss said: "There are players who maybe have been at Championship clubs who haven't got anything. There's that kind of scenario going on.

"It's not as if we're on our own. There are other clubs in the northern area looking for players. Clubs like Blackpool and Doncaster are looking because they haven't got many in."

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7:46am Thu 31 Jul 14

i miss stallard & murray says...

Baldwin said there will 3 to 5 more players coming in. Not sure why he needs to stress to the board he needs more numbers it is obvious and they have committed to doing this? Confused with how the beginning of the article is written is there a rift or has this been taken out of context? Or is this just Parky saying I have a board meeting and we are going to discuss a plan to recruit some more players but I want players who will challenge? I hope all future signings are to stake a claim for the first team otherwise there ain't much point. Come on City let's work together to get the best competitive squad possible.
Baldwin said there will 3 to 5 more players coming in. Not sure why he needs to stress to the board he needs more numbers it is obvious and they have committed to doing this? Confused with how the beginning of the article is written is there a rift or has this been taken out of context? Or is this just Parky saying I have a board meeting and we are going to discuss a plan to recruit some more players but I want players who will challenge? I hope all future signings are to stake a claim for the first team otherwise there ain't much point. Come on City let's work together to get the best competitive squad possible. i miss stallard & murray
  • Score: 14

9:05am Thu 31 Jul 14

Halifax Bantam says...

Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that
Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that Halifax Bantam
  • Score: 3

10:06am Thu 31 Jul 14

jamiejoe says...

I think Parky, the board and the fans are the same sheet here.

It's obvious to all what the squad needs more of ... What we have less of is financial clout. Especially against Championship TV money and wage bills.

We are also competing against 91 clubs and lets face facts - the whole of Yorkshire has not been a hot bed of football activity compared to the rest of the country (and Wales) for the last decade. With the exception of our exploits the other season from out of the bottom division.

So it's going to be difficult to attract decent players in the first place, a. It more brass would help.

We do have a good nucleus of a team, let's hope they can stay fit like the 1984/85 league winning team and 1999 promotion side.
I think Parky, the board and the fans are the same sheet here. It's obvious to all what the squad needs more of ... What we have less of is financial clout. Especially against Championship TV money and wage bills. We are also competing against 91 clubs and lets face facts - the whole of Yorkshire has not been a hot bed of football activity compared to the rest of the country (and Wales) for the last decade. With the exception of our exploits the other season from out of the bottom division. So it's going to be difficult to attract decent players in the first place, a. It more brass would help. We do have a good nucleus of a team, let's hope they can stay fit like the 1984/85 league winning team and 1999 promotion side. jamiejoe
  • Score: 5

10:14am Thu 31 Jul 14

Peter300 says...

i miss stallard & murray wrote:
Baldwin said there will 3 to 5 more players coming in. Not sure why he needs to stress to the board he needs more numbers it is obvious and they have committed to doing this? Confused with how the beginning of the article is written is there a rift or has this been taken out of context? Or is this just Parky saying I have a board meeting and we are going to discuss a plan to recruit some more players but I want players who will challenge? I hope all future signings are to stake a claim for the first team otherwise there ain't much point. Come on City let's work together to get the best competitive squad possible.
You've rather answered the question you are asking yourself. It was only quite recently that Mr. Lawn was saying that City were still trying to get players they wanted and he would not rule out their arrival. In an ideal world every manager would like their squad assembled for a full pre-season. One can see by the very nature of the transfer activity throughout August in past seasons that this does not happen. It will be the same for this season and future seasons. Both Mr. Lawn and Dave the Lecturer have urged fans not to panic and keeper calm. No doubt Mr. Julian would say the same. They will be issuing similar warnings next summer for the benefit of the same fans.
[quote][p][bold]i miss stallard & murray[/bold] wrote: Baldwin said there will 3 to 5 more players coming in. Not sure why he needs to stress to the board he needs more numbers it is obvious and they have committed to doing this? Confused with how the beginning of the article is written is there a rift or has this been taken out of context? Or is this just Parky saying I have a board meeting and we are going to discuss a plan to recruit some more players but I want players who will challenge? I hope all future signings are to stake a claim for the first team otherwise there ain't much point. Come on City let's work together to get the best competitive squad possible.[/p][/quote]You've rather answered the question you are asking yourself. It was only quite recently that Mr. Lawn was saying that City were still trying to get players they wanted and he would not rule out their arrival. In an ideal world every manager would like their squad assembled for a full pre-season. One can see by the very nature of the transfer activity throughout August in past seasons that this does not happen. It will be the same for this season and future seasons. Both Mr. Lawn and Dave the Lecturer have urged fans not to panic and keeper calm. No doubt Mr. Julian would say the same. They will be issuing similar warnings next summer for the benefit of the same fans. Peter300
  • Score: -3

10:19am Thu 31 Jul 14

Peter300 says...

Halifax Bantam wrote:
Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that
We signed the main targets. Mr. Lawn said others might arrive and that is still possible. There is no doubt that Phil has been forced to make tough decisions, like most of his colleagues, and choose to let players go. One in particular - though many fans wanted rid of him. Competitive, by the way.
[quote][p][bold]Halifax Bantam[/bold] wrote: Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that[/p][/quote]We signed the main targets. Mr. Lawn said others might arrive and that is still possible. There is no doubt that Phil has been forced to make tough decisions, like most of his colleagues, and choose to let players go. One in particular - though many fans wanted rid of him. Competitive, by the way. Peter300
  • Score: 1

10:24am Thu 31 Jul 14

Peter300 says...

jamiejoe wrote:
I think Parky, the board and the fans are the same sheet here.

It's obvious to all what the squad needs more of ... What we have less of is financial clout. Especially against Championship TV money and wage bills.

We are also competing against 91 clubs and lets face facts - the whole of Yorkshire has not been a hot bed of football activity compared to the rest of the country (and Wales) for the last decade. With the exception of our exploits the other season from out of the bottom division.

So it's going to be difficult to attract decent players in the first place, a. It more brass would help.

We do have a good nucleus of a team, let's hope they can stay fit like the 1984/85 league winning team and 1999 promotion side.
City is an attractive club for some good players, provided the manager wants them and they are offered the right money. Darby and McArdle seemed to have no problem re-signing.
[quote][p][bold]jamiejoe[/bold] wrote: I think Parky, the board and the fans are the same sheet here. It's obvious to all what the squad needs more of ... What we have less of is financial clout. Especially against Championship TV money and wage bills. We are also competing against 91 clubs and lets face facts - the whole of Yorkshire has not been a hot bed of football activity compared to the rest of the country (and Wales) for the last decade. With the exception of our exploits the other season from out of the bottom division. So it's going to be difficult to attract decent players in the first place, a. It more brass would help. We do have a good nucleus of a team, let's hope they can stay fit like the 1984/85 league winning team and 1999 promotion side.[/p][/quote]City is an attractive club for some good players, provided the manager wants them and they are offered the right money. Darby and McArdle seemed to have no problem re-signing. Peter300
  • Score: 1

10:28am Thu 31 Jul 14

lawsonio123 says...

jamiejoe wrote:
I think Parky, the board and the fans are the same sheet here.

It's obvious to all what the squad needs more of ... What we have less of is financial clout. Especially against Championship TV money and wage bills.

We are also competing against 91 clubs and lets face facts - the whole of Yorkshire has not been a hot bed of football activity compared to the rest of the country (and Wales) for the last decade. With the exception of our exploits the other season from out of the bottom division.

So it's going to be difficult to attract decent players in the first place, a. It more brass would help.

We do have a good nucleus of a team, let's hope they can stay fit like the 1984/85 league winning team and 1999 promotion side.
Hello Jamiejoe I like your comment but for a small error We are not competing against 91 clubs The Premier clubs and some Championship ones are not in the market for the class of player which would be OK for us We are not looking at the top of the table they are. So we can get decent young players who may well develop along with our team I see you refer to 1984/85 and 1999 a great time was it not let us hope they come again Enjoy the new season
[quote][p][bold]jamiejoe[/bold] wrote: I think Parky, the board and the fans are the same sheet here. It's obvious to all what the squad needs more of ... What we have less of is financial clout. Especially against Championship TV money and wage bills. We are also competing against 91 clubs and lets face facts - the whole of Yorkshire has not been a hot bed of football activity compared to the rest of the country (and Wales) for the last decade. With the exception of our exploits the other season from out of the bottom division. So it's going to be difficult to attract decent players in the first place, a. It more brass would help. We do have a good nucleus of a team, let's hope they can stay fit like the 1984/85 league winning team and 1999 promotion side.[/p][/quote]Hello Jamiejoe I like your comment but for a small error We are not competing against 91 clubs The Premier clubs and some Championship ones are not in the market for the class of player which would be OK for us We are not looking at the top of the table they are. So we can get decent young players who may well develop along with our team I see you refer to 1984/85 and 1999 a great time was it not let us hope they come again Enjoy the new season lawsonio123
  • Score: 5

10:41am Thu 31 Jul 14

lawsonio123 says...

Peter300 wrote:
jamiejoe wrote:
I think Parky, the board and the fans are the same sheet here.

It's obvious to all what the squad needs more of ... What we have less of is financial clout. Especially against Championship TV money and wage bills.

We are also competing against 91 clubs and lets face facts - the whole of Yorkshire has not been a hot bed of football activity compared to the rest of the country (and Wales) for the last decade. With the exception of our exploits the other season from out of the bottom division.

So it's going to be difficult to attract decent players in the first place, a. It more brass would help.

We do have a good nucleus of a team, let's hope they can stay fit like the 1984/85 league winning team and 1999 promotion side.
City is an attractive club for some good players, provided the manager wants them and they are offered the right money. Darby and McArdle seemed to have no problem re-signing.
What is the right money Peter. Just now so many players are out of work and may well take what they can get rather than have no job they need to live. The trick is to find the right ones who will fit in with your team However with a lot of clubs playing the same game this is not a easy task for Mr Parkinson he also needs a bit of cash sometimes to swing a deal and that is up to the directors We must hope that Parky can find these needles in the haystack then we can have a good season Keep well
[quote][p][bold]Peter300[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jamiejoe[/bold] wrote: I think Parky, the board and the fans are the same sheet here. It's obvious to all what the squad needs more of ... What we have less of is financial clout. Especially against Championship TV money and wage bills. We are also competing against 91 clubs and lets face facts - the whole of Yorkshire has not been a hot bed of football activity compared to the rest of the country (and Wales) for the last decade. With the exception of our exploits the other season from out of the bottom division. So it's going to be difficult to attract decent players in the first place, a. It more brass would help. We do have a good nucleus of a team, let's hope they can stay fit like the 1984/85 league winning team and 1999 promotion side.[/p][/quote]City is an attractive club for some good players, provided the manager wants them and they are offered the right money. Darby and McArdle seemed to have no problem re-signing.[/p][/quote]What is the right money Peter. Just now so many players are out of work and may well take what they can get rather than have no job they need to live. The trick is to find the right ones who will fit in with your team However with a lot of clubs playing the same game this is not a easy task for Mr Parkinson he also needs a bit of cash sometimes to swing a deal and that is up to the directors We must hope that Parky can find these needles in the haystack then we can have a good season Keep well lawsonio123
  • Score: 1

11:12am Thu 31 Jul 14

BD16 says...

lawsonio123 wrote:
Peter300 wrote:
jamiejoe wrote:
I think Parky, the board and the fans are the same sheet here.

It's obvious to all what the squad needs more of ... What we have less of is financial clout. Especially against Championship TV money and wage bills.

We are also competing against 91 clubs and lets face facts - the whole of Yorkshire has not been a hot bed of football activity compared to the rest of the country (and Wales) for the last decade. With the exception of our exploits the other season from out of the bottom division.

So it's going to be difficult to attract decent players in the first place, a. It more brass would help.

We do have a good nucleus of a team, let's hope they can stay fit like the 1984/85 league winning team and 1999 promotion side.
City is an attractive club for some good players, provided the manager wants them and they are offered the right money. Darby and McArdle seemed to have no problem re-signing.
What is the right money Peter. Just now so many players are out of work and may well take what they can get rather than have no job they need to live. The trick is to find the right ones who will fit in with your team However with a lot of clubs playing the same game this is not a easy task for Mr Parkinson he also needs a bit of cash sometimes to swing a deal and that is up to the directors We must hope that Parky can find these needles in the haystack then we can have a good season Keep well
Keep well. Is Peter300 going to be our new goalie? I know we're a bit short on numbers but that's probably going too far.....
[quote][p][bold]lawsonio123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peter300[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jamiejoe[/bold] wrote: I think Parky, the board and the fans are the same sheet here. It's obvious to all what the squad needs more of ... What we have less of is financial clout. Especially against Championship TV money and wage bills. We are also competing against 91 clubs and lets face facts - the whole of Yorkshire has not been a hot bed of football activity compared to the rest of the country (and Wales) for the last decade. With the exception of our exploits the other season from out of the bottom division. So it's going to be difficult to attract decent players in the first place, a. It more brass would help. We do have a good nucleus of a team, let's hope they can stay fit like the 1984/85 league winning team and 1999 promotion side.[/p][/quote]City is an attractive club for some good players, provided the manager wants them and they are offered the right money. Darby and McArdle seemed to have no problem re-signing.[/p][/quote]What is the right money Peter. Just now so many players are out of work and may well take what they can get rather than have no job they need to live. The trick is to find the right ones who will fit in with your team However with a lot of clubs playing the same game this is not a easy task for Mr Parkinson he also needs a bit of cash sometimes to swing a deal and that is up to the directors We must hope that Parky can find these needles in the haystack then we can have a good season Keep well[/p][/quote]Keep well. Is Peter300 going to be our new goalie? I know we're a bit short on numbers but that's probably going too far..... BD16
  • Score: 2

11:27am Thu 31 Jul 14

jamiejoe says...

lawsonio123 wrote:
jamiejoe wrote:
I think Parky, the board and the fans are the same sheet here.

It's obvious to all what the squad needs more of ... What we have less of is financial clout. Especially against Championship TV money and wage bills.

We are also competing against 91 clubs and lets face facts - the whole of Yorkshire has not been a hot bed of football activity compared to the rest of the country (and Wales) for the last decade. With the exception of our exploits the other season from out of the bottom division.

So it's going to be difficult to attract decent players in the first place, a. It more brass would help.

We do have a good nucleus of a team, let's hope they can stay fit like the 1984/85 league winning team and 1999 promotion side.
Hello Jamiejoe I like your comment but for a small error We are not competing against 91 clubs The Premier clubs and some Championship ones are not in the market for the class of player which would be OK for us We are not looking at the top of the table they are. So we can get decent young players who may well develop along with our team I see you refer to 1984/85 and 1999 a great time was it not let us hope they come again Enjoy the new season
Let's hope it is a great season!

We are competing against all those clubs as we see with our youngsters the top 2 divisions cream off the talent and can take a punt on a good young 'un making the grade.

So the rest of the football league clubs miss out, as do many of those players.

The fact that the Championship gets 80% of the TV money, League 1 12% and League 2 8% tells you everything you need to know about the commercial pyramid. Nevermind the Premier and its largess attracting players from around the world.

It's not difficult to see why English players development stutters at 20 - 24, unless they are prepared to play first team football and work their way up. Preferably through promotions rather than transfers to bigger pay packets and squad players sitting on the bench behind players paid £5 million a year (the average pay for the top 11 earners in the Premier League!).
[quote][p][bold]lawsonio123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jamiejoe[/bold] wrote: I think Parky, the board and the fans are the same sheet here. It's obvious to all what the squad needs more of ... What we have less of is financial clout. Especially against Championship TV money and wage bills. We are also competing against 91 clubs and lets face facts - the whole of Yorkshire has not been a hot bed of football activity compared to the rest of the country (and Wales) for the last decade. With the exception of our exploits the other season from out of the bottom division. So it's going to be difficult to attract decent players in the first place, a. It more brass would help. We do have a good nucleus of a team, let's hope they can stay fit like the 1984/85 league winning team and 1999 promotion side.[/p][/quote]Hello Jamiejoe I like your comment but for a small error We are not competing against 91 clubs The Premier clubs and some Championship ones are not in the market for the class of player which would be OK for us We are not looking at the top of the table they are. So we can get decent young players who may well develop along with our team I see you refer to 1984/85 and 1999 a great time was it not let us hope they come again Enjoy the new season[/p][/quote]Let's hope it is a great season! We are competing against all those clubs as we see with our youngsters the top 2 divisions cream off the talent and can take a punt on a good young 'un making the grade. So the rest of the football league clubs miss out, as do many of those players. The fact that the Championship gets 80% of the TV money, League 1 12% and League 2 8% tells you everything you need to know about the commercial pyramid. Nevermind the Premier and its largess attracting players from around the world. It's not difficult to see why English players development stutters at 20 - 24, unless they are prepared to play first team football and work their way up. Preferably through promotions rather than transfers to bigger pay packets and squad players sitting on the bench behind players paid £5 million a year (the average pay for the top 11 earners in the Premier League!). jamiejoe
  • Score: 1

11:37am Thu 31 Jul 14

jamiejoe says...

jamiejoe wrote:
lawsonio123 wrote:
jamiejoe wrote:
I think Parky, the board and the fans are the same sheet here.

It's obvious to all what the squad needs more of ... What we have less of is financial clout. Especially against Championship TV money and wage bills.

We are also competing against 91 clubs and lets face facts - the whole of Yorkshire has not been a hot bed of football activity compared to the rest of the country (and Wales) for the last decade. With the exception of our exploits the other season from out of the bottom division.

So it's going to be difficult to attract decent players in the first place, a. It more brass would help.

We do have a good nucleus of a team, let's hope they can stay fit like the 1984/85 league winning team and 1999 promotion side.
Hello Jamiejoe I like your comment but for a small error We are not competing against 91 clubs The Premier clubs and some Championship ones are not in the market for the class of player which would be OK for us We are not looking at the top of the table they are. So we can get decent young players who may well develop along with our team I see you refer to 1984/85 and 1999 a great time was it not let us hope they come again Enjoy the new season
Let's hope it is a great season!

We are competing against all those clubs as we see with our youngsters the top 2 divisions cream off the talent and can take a punt on a good young 'un making the grade.

So the rest of the football league clubs miss out, as do many of those players.

The fact that the Championship gets 80% of the TV money, League 1 12% and League 2 8% tells you everything you need to know about the commercial pyramid. Nevermind the Premier and its largess attracting players from around the world.

It's not difficult to see why English players development stutters at 20 - 24, unless they are prepared to play first team football and work their way up. Preferably through promotions rather than transfers to bigger pay packets and squad players sitting on the bench behind players paid £5 million a year (the average pay for the top 11 earners in the Premier League!).
I meant to say that £5 million a year, £100k a week is the average pay for the top 11 earners in each of the 20 prem. teams

(okay that may change a bit with promotions).

As the pay of 1 player is more than double our entire budget that tells you all you need to know.

I think the Championship average around £18 million in wages and some clubs go with budgets way over £20 million pushing for promotion. Well - those like QPR with parachute payments and the likes of Cardiff City when they pushed for promotion year on year.
[quote][p][bold]jamiejoe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lawsonio123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jamiejoe[/bold] wrote: I think Parky, the board and the fans are the same sheet here. It's obvious to all what the squad needs more of ... What we have less of is financial clout. Especially against Championship TV money and wage bills. We are also competing against 91 clubs and lets face facts - the whole of Yorkshire has not been a hot bed of football activity compared to the rest of the country (and Wales) for the last decade. With the exception of our exploits the other season from out of the bottom division. So it's going to be difficult to attract decent players in the first place, a. It more brass would help. We do have a good nucleus of a team, let's hope they can stay fit like the 1984/85 league winning team and 1999 promotion side.[/p][/quote]Hello Jamiejoe I like your comment but for a small error We are not competing against 91 clubs The Premier clubs and some Championship ones are not in the market for the class of player which would be OK for us We are not looking at the top of the table they are. So we can get decent young players who may well develop along with our team I see you refer to 1984/85 and 1999 a great time was it not let us hope they come again Enjoy the new season[/p][/quote]Let's hope it is a great season! We are competing against all those clubs as we see with our youngsters the top 2 divisions cream off the talent and can take a punt on a good young 'un making the grade. So the rest of the football league clubs miss out, as do many of those players. The fact that the Championship gets 80% of the TV money, League 1 12% and League 2 8% tells you everything you need to know about the commercial pyramid. Nevermind the Premier and its largess attracting players from around the world. It's not difficult to see why English players development stutters at 20 - 24, unless they are prepared to play first team football and work their way up. Preferably through promotions rather than transfers to bigger pay packets and squad players sitting on the bench behind players paid £5 million a year (the average pay for the top 11 earners in the Premier League!).[/p][/quote]I meant to say that £5 million a year, £100k a week is the average pay for the top 11 earners in each of the 20 prem. teams (okay that may change a bit with promotions). As the pay of 1 player is more than double our entire budget that tells you all you need to know. I think the Championship average around £18 million in wages and some clubs go with budgets way over £20 million pushing for promotion. Well - those like QPR with parachute payments and the likes of Cardiff City when they pushed for promotion year on year. jamiejoe
  • Score: 1

12:07pm Thu 31 Jul 14

bantam34 says...

IT WAS ONLY LASY YEAR WE WERE BIDDING £100K + FOR PAUL BENSON (where has that money gone?)..........we will never get anywhere with free transfers
IT WAS ONLY LASY YEAR WE WERE BIDDING £100K + FOR PAUL BENSON (where has that money gone?)..........we will never get anywhere with free transfers bantam34
  • Score: -7

12:11pm Thu 31 Jul 14

jamiejoe says...

bantam34 wrote:
IT WAS ONLY LASY YEAR WE WERE BIDDING £100K + FOR PAUL BENSON (where has that money gone?)..........we will never get anywhere with free transfers
... except to Wembley twice and promotion!
[quote][p][bold]bantam34[/bold] wrote: IT WAS ONLY LASY YEAR WE WERE BIDDING £100K + FOR PAUL BENSON (where has that money gone?)..........we will never get anywhere with free transfers[/p][/quote]... except to Wembley twice and promotion! jamiejoe
  • Score: 8

12:51pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Solomon Grundy says...

I suspect this is about the simple fact that the later they sign the players the later they have to start paying them. This way they've gone through a whole chunk of pre season without spending the full budget. Hope they know what they're doing.
I suspect this is about the simple fact that the later they sign the players the later they have to start paying them. This way they've gone through a whole chunk of pre season without spending the full budget. Hope they know what they're doing. Solomon Grundy
  • Score: 1

12:52pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Victor Clayton says...

i prefere the considered approch to new signings. last season PP seemed a bit slapdash and it didn't work.
i prefere the considered approch to new signings. last season PP seemed a bit slapdash and it didn't work. Victor Clayton
  • Score: 8

1:01pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Waynus1971 says...

Peter300 wrote:
i miss stallard & murray wrote:
Baldwin said there will 3 to 5 more players coming in. Not sure why he needs to stress to the board he needs more numbers it is obvious and they have committed to doing this? Confused with how the beginning of the article is written is there a rift or has this been taken out of context? Or is this just Parky saying I have a board meeting and we are going to discuss a plan to recruit some more players but I want players who will challenge? I hope all future signings are to stake a claim for the first team otherwise there ain't much point. Come on City let's work together to get the best competitive squad possible.
You've rather answered the question you are asking yourself. It was only quite recently that Mr. Lawn was saying that City were still trying to get players they wanted and he would not rule out their arrival. In an ideal world every manager would like their squad assembled for a full pre-season. One can see by the very nature of the transfer activity throughout August in past seasons that this does not happen. It will be the same for this season and future seasons. Both Mr. Lawn and Dave the Lecturer have urged fans not to panic and keeper calm. No doubt Mr. Julian would say the same. They will be issuing similar warnings next summer for the benefit of the same fans.
But perhaps Messrs Lawn and Baldwin need to be turning their attention AWAY from the fans and look closer to home. Two of the last Three stories gave centred on our manager sounding 'almost desperate' in his aims to bulk up his squad....!


Fans will always worry, especially if the man in charge of the team is making noises to the press????
[quote][p][bold]Peter300[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]i miss stallard & murray[/bold] wrote: Baldwin said there will 3 to 5 more players coming in. Not sure why he needs to stress to the board he needs more numbers it is obvious and they have committed to doing this? Confused with how the beginning of the article is written is there a rift or has this been taken out of context? Or is this just Parky saying I have a board meeting and we are going to discuss a plan to recruit some more players but I want players who will challenge? I hope all future signings are to stake a claim for the first team otherwise there ain't much point. Come on City let's work together to get the best competitive squad possible.[/p][/quote]You've rather answered the question you are asking yourself. It was only quite recently that Mr. Lawn was saying that City were still trying to get players they wanted and he would not rule out their arrival. In an ideal world every manager would like their squad assembled for a full pre-season. One can see by the very nature of the transfer activity throughout August in past seasons that this does not happen. It will be the same for this season and future seasons. Both Mr. Lawn and Dave the Lecturer have urged fans not to panic and keeper calm. No doubt Mr. Julian would say the same. They will be issuing similar warnings next summer for the benefit of the same fans.[/p][/quote]But perhaps Messrs Lawn and Baldwin need to be turning their attention AWAY from the fans and look closer to home. Two of the last Three stories gave centred on our manager sounding 'almost desperate' in his aims to bulk up his squad....! Fans will always worry, especially if the man in charge of the team is making noises to the press???? Waynus1971
  • Score: 2

1:19pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Farsley Bantam says...

bantam34 wrote:
IT WAS ONLY LASY YEAR WE WERE BIDDING £100K + FOR PAUL BENSON (where has that money gone?)..........we will never get anywhere with free transfers
It was at least 2 years ago if I remember. Do you seriously think that the club just put £100k in a box somewhere and have not spent that £100k in the 2 years since? £100K is about 4 months of McLeans wages.
[quote][p][bold]bantam34[/bold] wrote: IT WAS ONLY LASY YEAR WE WERE BIDDING £100K + FOR PAUL BENSON (where has that money gone?)..........we will never get anywhere with free transfers[/p][/quote]It was at least 2 years ago if I remember. Do you seriously think that the club just put £100k in a box somewhere and have not spent that £100k in the 2 years since? £100K is about 4 months of McLeans wages. Farsley Bantam
  • Score: -2

3:09pm Thu 31 Jul 14

macca1969 says...

The club need to back parky end of story. It's all right saying he wasted this he wasted that but at the end of the day parky is well in credit with what he has spent and what monies he has earned the club!!!!
The club need to back parky end of story. It's all right saying he wasted this he wasted that but at the end of the day parky is well in credit with what he has spent and what monies he has earned the club!!!! macca1969
  • Score: 4

3:12pm Thu 31 Jul 14

PHILISAN says...

I am surprised that with all the emphasis put on professionalism by those running the Club of late, that so much negativity in sound bites is surfacing.Fans thrive on expectations and need to be excited about what the coming season offers.But we need a feeling of "Let's give it a real go this time" that can only emanate from the Directors.All this waffle about time running out and innuendos regarding budgets, at the same time as key players are being sought to bolster the team,doesn't inspire a feeling of confidence or wellbeing.If you employ and trust someone..then back HIM and the FANS to the hilt!
I am surprised that with all the emphasis put on professionalism by those running the Club of late, that so much negativity in sound bites is surfacing.Fans thrive on expectations and need to be excited about what the coming season offers.But we need a feeling of "Let's give it a real go this time" that can only emanate from the Directors.All this waffle about time running out and innuendos regarding budgets, at the same time as key players are being sought to bolster the team,doesn't inspire a feeling of confidence or wellbeing.If you employ and trust someone..then back HIM and the FANS to the hilt! PHILISAN
  • Score: 2

3:21pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Victor Clayton says...

PHILISAN wrote:
I am surprised that with all the emphasis put on professionalism by those running the Club of late, that so much negativity in sound bites is surfacing.Fans thrive on expectations and need to be excited about what the coming season offers.But we need a feeling of "Let's give it a real go this time" that can only emanate from the Directors.All this waffle about time running out and innuendos regarding budgets, at the same time as key players are being sought to bolster the team,doesn't inspire a feeling of confidence or wellbeing.If you employ and trust someone..then back HIM and the FANS to the hilt!
personally, i think half of it will be down to the T&A. remember, they need to keep us looking at their web site!
[quote][p][bold]PHILISAN[/bold] wrote: I am surprised that with all the emphasis put on professionalism by those running the Club of late, that so much negativity in sound bites is surfacing.Fans thrive on expectations and need to be excited about what the coming season offers.But we need a feeling of "Let's give it a real go this time" that can only emanate from the Directors.All this waffle about time running out and innuendos regarding budgets, at the same time as key players are being sought to bolster the team,doesn't inspire a feeling of confidence or wellbeing.If you employ and trust someone..then back HIM and the FANS to the hilt![/p][/quote]personally, i think half of it will be down to the T&A. remember, they need to keep us looking at their web site! Victor Clayton
  • Score: 2

4:18pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Wrose bantam says...

I think this fairly typical but do feel a bit for parky.

Parky will look at promotion , a 2 million quid cup run, 2 wembley visits and the sale of wells. In all he has been in charge when millions have been banked. I bet he thinks , I would have loved to. Have kept Garry jones or jonny mac.

The board probably say , great job, but last year your recruits such as yeates, bates, devita, Kennedy, etc... Did not offer anything exciting but cost us a lot. McLean still needs to show his worth.

Both sides have a point, but in the ideal world parky would have more money and his signings would have all done better. We have a cautious board and a good manager. I think we. Need a good winger who delivers some good crosses and a good keeper.

When Hendrie came to us in 84 he was largely unknown and did not have a big reputation. Abbot too was largely unknown, however they did fantastically well at city. We need to hope Clarke , Dolan, Sheehan, etc are of the same ilk.
I think this fairly typical but do feel a bit for parky. Parky will look at promotion , a 2 million quid cup run, 2 wembley visits and the sale of wells. In all he has been in charge when millions have been banked. I bet he thinks , I would have loved to. Have kept Garry jones or jonny mac. The board probably say , great job, but last year your recruits such as yeates, bates, devita, Kennedy, etc... Did not offer anything exciting but cost us a lot. McLean still needs to show his worth. Both sides have a point, but in the ideal world parky would have more money and his signings would have all done better. We have a cautious board and a good manager. I think we. Need a good winger who delivers some good crosses and a good keeper. When Hendrie came to us in 84 he was largely unknown and did not have a big reputation. Abbot too was largely unknown, however they did fantastically well at city. We need to hope Clarke , Dolan, Sheehan, etc are of the same ilk. Wrose bantam
  • Score: 3

5:00pm Thu 31 Jul 14

bantam34 says...

Farsley Bantam wrote:
bantam34 wrote: IT WAS ONLY LASY YEAR WE WERE BIDDING £100K + FOR PAUL BENSON (where has that money gone?)..........we will never get anywhere with free transfers
It was at least 2 years ago if I remember. Do you seriously think that the club just put £100k in a box somewhere and have not spent that £100k in the 2 years since? £100K is about 4 months of McLeans wages.
yes good point, but as a poster above righlty says, 2 wembley visits, a promotion and the sale of wells and what are we left with? Granted we have payed off the offie block and save substantial ammount of rent but it feels like we have stood still. Of course it was about stabilization last year but wouldnt it be nice just to have a proper back with a few quid in the bank, like Rotherham. We will always be a struggling club, you need money and backign to move forward - look at Yeovil yes they got promoted but withouth substancial backign they were staright back down.
[quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantam34[/bold] wrote: IT WAS ONLY LASY YEAR WE WERE BIDDING £100K + FOR PAUL BENSON (where has that money gone?)..........we will never get anywhere with free transfers[/p][/quote]It was at least 2 years ago if I remember. Do you seriously think that the club just put £100k in a box somewhere and have not spent that £100k in the 2 years since? £100K is about 4 months of McLeans wages.[/p][/quote]yes good point, but as a poster above righlty says, 2 wembley visits, a promotion and the sale of wells and what are we left with? Granted we have payed off the offie block and save substantial ammount of rent but it feels like we have stood still. Of course it was about stabilization last year but wouldnt it be nice just to have a proper back with a few quid in the bank, like Rotherham. We will always be a struggling club, you need money and backign to move forward - look at Yeovil yes they got promoted but withouth substancial backign they were staright back down. bantam34
  • Score: 0

5:17pm Thu 31 Jul 14

lawsonio123 says...

BD16 wrote:
lawsonio123 wrote:
Peter300 wrote:
jamiejoe wrote:
I think Parky, the board and the fans are the same sheet here.

It's obvious to all what the squad needs more of ... What we have less of is financial clout. Especially against Championship TV money and wage bills.

We are also competing against 91 clubs and lets face facts - the whole of Yorkshire has not been a hot bed of football activity compared to the rest of the country (and Wales) for the last decade. With the exception of our exploits the other season from out of the bottom division.

So it's going to be difficult to attract decent players in the first place, a. It more brass would help.

We do have a good nucleus of a team, let's hope they can stay fit like the 1984/85 league winning team and 1999 promotion side.
City is an attractive club for some good players, provided the manager wants them and they are offered the right money. Darby and McArdle seemed to have no problem re-signing.
What is the right money Peter. Just now so many players are out of work and may well take what they can get rather than have no job they need to live. The trick is to find the right ones who will fit in with your team However with a lot of clubs playing the same game this is not a easy task for Mr Parkinson he also needs a bit of cash sometimes to swing a deal and that is up to the directors We must hope that Parky can find these needles in the haystack then we can have a good season Keep well
Keep well. Is Peter300 going to be our new goalie? I know we're a bit short on numbers but that's probably going too far.....
Can he stop owt
[quote][p][bold]BD16[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lawsonio123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peter300[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jamiejoe[/bold] wrote: I think Parky, the board and the fans are the same sheet here. It's obvious to all what the squad needs more of ... What we have less of is financial clout. Especially against Championship TV money and wage bills. We are also competing against 91 clubs and lets face facts - the whole of Yorkshire has not been a hot bed of football activity compared to the rest of the country (and Wales) for the last decade. With the exception of our exploits the other season from out of the bottom division. So it's going to be difficult to attract decent players in the first place, a. It more brass would help. We do have a good nucleus of a team, let's hope they can stay fit like the 1984/85 league winning team and 1999 promotion side.[/p][/quote]City is an attractive club for some good players, provided the manager wants them and they are offered the right money. Darby and McArdle seemed to have no problem re-signing.[/p][/quote]What is the right money Peter. Just now so many players are out of work and may well take what they can get rather than have no job they need to live. The trick is to find the right ones who will fit in with your team However with a lot of clubs playing the same game this is not a easy task for Mr Parkinson he also needs a bit of cash sometimes to swing a deal and that is up to the directors We must hope that Parky can find these needles in the haystack then we can have a good season Keep well[/p][/quote]Keep well. Is Peter300 going to be our new goalie? I know we're a bit short on numbers but that's probably going too far.....[/p][/quote]Can he stop owt lawsonio123
  • Score: 0

5:17pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Nickloza says...

bantam34 wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
bantam34 wrote: IT WAS ONLY LASY YEAR WE WERE BIDDING £100K + FOR PAUL BENSON (where has that money gone?)..........we will never get anywhere with free transfers
It was at least 2 years ago if I remember. Do you seriously think that the club just put £100k in a box somewhere and have not spent that £100k in the 2 years since? £100K is about 4 months of McLeans wages.
yes good point, but as a poster above righlty says, 2 wembley visits, a promotion and the sale of wells and what are we left with? Granted we have payed off the offie block and save substantial ammount of rent but it feels like we have stood still. Of course it was about stabilization last year but wouldnt it be nice just to have a proper back with a few quid in the bank, like Rotherham. We will always be a struggling club, you need money and backign to move forward - look at Yeovil yes they got promoted but withouth substancial backign they were staright back down.
What we should do is increase ticket prices, they are too cheap for this division imo. Not a big hike but £10-£20 increase would make quite a difference and still be dirt cheap.
[quote][p][bold]bantam34[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantam34[/bold] wrote: IT WAS ONLY LASY YEAR WE WERE BIDDING £100K + FOR PAUL BENSON (where has that money gone?)..........we will never get anywhere with free transfers[/p][/quote]It was at least 2 years ago if I remember. Do you seriously think that the club just put £100k in a box somewhere and have not spent that £100k in the 2 years since? £100K is about 4 months of McLeans wages.[/p][/quote]yes good point, but as a poster above righlty says, 2 wembley visits, a promotion and the sale of wells and what are we left with? Granted we have payed off the offie block and save substantial ammount of rent but it feels like we have stood still. Of course it was about stabilization last year but wouldnt it be nice just to have a proper back with a few quid in the bank, like Rotherham. We will always be a struggling club, you need money and backign to move forward - look at Yeovil yes they got promoted but withouth substancial backign they were staright back down.[/p][/quote]What we should do is increase ticket prices, they are too cheap for this division imo. Not a big hike but £10-£20 increase would make quite a difference and still be dirt cheap. Nickloza
  • Score: 4

5:25pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Victor Clayton says...

Nickloza wrote:
bantam34 wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
bantam34 wrote: IT WAS ONLY LASY YEAR WE WERE BIDDING £100K + FOR PAUL BENSON (where has that money gone?)..........we will never get anywhere with free transfers
It was at least 2 years ago if I remember. Do you seriously think that the club just put £100k in a box somewhere and have not spent that £100k in the 2 years since? £100K is about 4 months of McLeans wages.
yes good point, but as a poster above righlty says, 2 wembley visits, a promotion and the sale of wells and what are we left with? Granted we have payed off the offie block and save substantial ammount of rent but it feels like we have stood still. Of course it was about stabilization last year but wouldnt it be nice just to have a proper back with a few quid in the bank, like Rotherham. We will always be a struggling club, you need money and backign to move forward - look at Yeovil yes they got promoted but withouth substancial backign they were staright back down.
What we should do is increase ticket prices, they are too cheap for this division imo. Not a big hike but £10-£20 increase would make quite a difference and still be dirt cheap.
too right.
[quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantam34[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantam34[/bold] wrote: IT WAS ONLY LASY YEAR WE WERE BIDDING £100K + FOR PAUL BENSON (where has that money gone?)..........we will never get anywhere with free transfers[/p][/quote]It was at least 2 years ago if I remember. Do you seriously think that the club just put £100k in a box somewhere and have not spent that £100k in the 2 years since? £100K is about 4 months of McLeans wages.[/p][/quote]yes good point, but as a poster above righlty says, 2 wembley visits, a promotion and the sale of wells and what are we left with? Granted we have payed off the offie block and save substantial ammount of rent but it feels like we have stood still. Of course it was about stabilization last year but wouldnt it be nice just to have a proper back with a few quid in the bank, like Rotherham. We will always be a struggling club, you need money and backign to move forward - look at Yeovil yes they got promoted but withouth substancial backign they were staright back down.[/p][/quote]What we should do is increase ticket prices, they are too cheap for this division imo. Not a big hike but £10-£20 increase would make quite a difference and still be dirt cheap.[/p][/quote]too right. Victor Clayton
  • Score: 3

6:16pm Thu 31 Jul 14

SuttonGraeme says...

bantam34 wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
bantam34 wrote: IT WAS ONLY LASY YEAR WE WERE BIDDING £100K + FOR PAUL BENSON (where has that money gone?)..........we will never get anywhere with free transfers
It was at least 2 years ago if I remember. Do you seriously think that the club just put £100k in a box somewhere and have not spent that £100k in the 2 years since? £100K is about 4 months of McLeans wages.
yes good point, but as a poster above righlty says, 2 wembley visits, a promotion and the sale of wells and what are we left with? Granted we have payed off the offie block and save substantial ammount of rent but it feels like we have stood still. Of course it was about stabilization last year but wouldnt it be nice just to have a proper back with a few quid in the bank, like Rotherham. We will always be a struggling club, you need money and backign to move forward - look at Yeovil yes they got promoted but withouth substancial backign they were staright back down.
I'd rather be standing still than going backwards or building up vast amounts of unsutainable debt again. We'd all love a billionaire to come in and spend a fortune, but that isn't going to happen so the club need to live within their means. I'd raher the next decade in League 1 mid table than spend big to get promoted, get hammered every week by Premier League yo-yo clubs with £60 million parachute payments before sliding back to the bottom of League 2 again. Be grateful for what you have.
If I had a quid for everytime I've read/heard the qustion what has happened to the Wembley/Wells money, I'd be that billionaire. Few people on here have any idea of how a business in the real world runs, let alone a football club.
[quote][p][bold]bantam34[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantam34[/bold] wrote: IT WAS ONLY LASY YEAR WE WERE BIDDING £100K + FOR PAUL BENSON (where has that money gone?)..........we will never get anywhere with free transfers[/p][/quote]It was at least 2 years ago if I remember. Do you seriously think that the club just put £100k in a box somewhere and have not spent that £100k in the 2 years since? £100K is about 4 months of McLeans wages.[/p][/quote]yes good point, but as a poster above righlty says, 2 wembley visits, a promotion and the sale of wells and what are we left with? Granted we have payed off the offie block and save substantial ammount of rent but it feels like we have stood still. Of course it was about stabilization last year but wouldnt it be nice just to have a proper back with a few quid in the bank, like Rotherham. We will always be a struggling club, you need money and backign to move forward - look at Yeovil yes they got promoted but withouth substancial backign they were staright back down.[/p][/quote]I'd rather be standing still than going backwards or building up vast amounts of unsutainable debt again. We'd all love a billionaire to come in and spend a fortune, but that isn't going to happen so the club need to live within their means. I'd raher the next decade in League 1 mid table than spend big to get promoted, get hammered every week by Premier League yo-yo clubs with £60 million parachute payments before sliding back to the bottom of League 2 again. Be grateful for what you have. If I had a quid for everytime I've read/heard the qustion what has happened to the Wembley/Wells money, I'd be that billionaire. Few people on here have any idea of how a business in the real world runs, let alone a football club. SuttonGraeme
  • Score: 8

6:46pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Baby Bantam says...

Halifax Bantam wrote:
Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that
You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league.
Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3
Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.
[quote][p][bold]Halifax Bantam[/bold] wrote: Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that[/p][/quote]You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league. Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3 Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents. Baby Bantam
  • Score: -2

6:55pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Nickloza says...

Baby Bantam wrote:
Halifax Bantam wrote:
Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that
You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league.
Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3
Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.
You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.
[quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Halifax Bantam[/bold] wrote: Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that[/p][/quote]You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league. Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3 Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.[/p][/quote]You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what. Nickloza
  • Score: 3

7:08pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Baby Bantam says...

Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Halifax Bantam wrote:
Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that
You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league.
Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3
Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.
You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.
Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.
[quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Halifax Bantam[/bold] wrote: Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that[/p][/quote]You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league. Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3 Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.[/p][/quote]You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.[/p][/quote]Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left. Baby Bantam
  • Score: -1

7:18pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Citygent1960 says...

Nickloza wrote:
bantam34 wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
bantam34 wrote: IT WAS ONLY LASY YEAR WE WERE BIDDING £100K + FOR PAUL BENSON (where has that money gone?)..........we will never get anywhere with free transfers
It was at least 2 years ago if I remember. Do you seriously think that the club just put £100k in a box somewhere and have not spent that £100k in the 2 years since? £100K is about 4 months of McLeans wages.
yes good point, but as a poster above righlty says, 2 wembley visits, a promotion and the sale of wells and what are we left with? Granted we have payed off the offie block and save substantial ammount of rent but it feels like we have stood still. Of course it was about stabilization last year but wouldnt it be nice just to have a proper back with a few quid in the bank, like Rotherham. We will always be a struggling club, you need money and backign to move forward - look at Yeovil yes they got promoted but withouth substancial backign they were staright back down.
What we should do is increase ticket prices, they are too cheap for this division imo. Not a big hike but £10-£20 increase would make quite a difference and still be dirt cheap.
If you thought your season ticket was too cheap you had the option of waiting till it went up before purchasing. Bet you didn't though?
[quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantam34[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantam34[/bold] wrote: IT WAS ONLY LASY YEAR WE WERE BIDDING £100K + FOR PAUL BENSON (where has that money gone?)..........we will never get anywhere with free transfers[/p][/quote]It was at least 2 years ago if I remember. Do you seriously think that the club just put £100k in a box somewhere and have not spent that £100k in the 2 years since? £100K is about 4 months of McLeans wages.[/p][/quote]yes good point, but as a poster above righlty says, 2 wembley visits, a promotion and the sale of wells and what are we left with? Granted we have payed off the offie block and save substantial ammount of rent but it feels like we have stood still. Of course it was about stabilization last year but wouldnt it be nice just to have a proper back with a few quid in the bank, like Rotherham. We will always be a struggling club, you need money and backign to move forward - look at Yeovil yes they got promoted but withouth substancial backign they were staright back down.[/p][/quote]What we should do is increase ticket prices, they are too cheap for this division imo. Not a big hike but £10-£20 increase would make quite a difference and still be dirt cheap.[/p][/quote]If you thought your season ticket was too cheap you had the option of waiting till it went up before purchasing. Bet you didn't though? Citygent1960
  • Score: -2

7:23pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Nickloza says...

Baby Bantam wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Halifax Bantam wrote:
Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that
You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league.
Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3
Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.
You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.
Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.
Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really.
[quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Halifax Bantam[/bold] wrote: Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that[/p][/quote]You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league. Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3 Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.[/p][/quote]You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.[/p][/quote]Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.[/p][/quote]Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really. Nickloza
  • Score: 2

7:25pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Nickloza says...

Citygent1960 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
bantam34 wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
bantam34 wrote: IT WAS ONLY LASY YEAR WE WERE BIDDING £100K + FOR PAUL BENSON (where has that money gone?)..........we will never get anywhere with free transfers
It was at least 2 years ago if I remember. Do you seriously think that the club just put £100k in a box somewhere and have not spent that £100k in the 2 years since? £100K is about 4 months of McLeans wages.
yes good point, but as a poster above righlty says, 2 wembley visits, a promotion and the sale of wells and what are we left with? Granted we have payed off the offie block and save substantial ammount of rent but it feels like we have stood still. Of course it was about stabilization last year but wouldnt it be nice just to have a proper back with a few quid in the bank, like Rotherham. We will always be a struggling club, you need money and backign to move forward - look at Yeovil yes they got promoted but withouth substancial backign they were staright back down.
What we should do is increase ticket prices, they are too cheap for this division imo. Not a big hike but £10-£20 increase would make quite a difference and still be dirt cheap.
If you thought your season ticket was too cheap you had the option of waiting till it went up before purchasing. Bet you didn't though?
Bet I did though!!
[quote][p][bold]Citygent1960[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantam34[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantam34[/bold] wrote: IT WAS ONLY LASY YEAR WE WERE BIDDING £100K + FOR PAUL BENSON (where has that money gone?)..........we will never get anywhere with free transfers[/p][/quote]It was at least 2 years ago if I remember. Do you seriously think that the club just put £100k in a box somewhere and have not spent that £100k in the 2 years since? £100K is about 4 months of McLeans wages.[/p][/quote]yes good point, but as a poster above righlty says, 2 wembley visits, a promotion and the sale of wells and what are we left with? Granted we have payed off the offie block and save substantial ammount of rent but it feels like we have stood still. Of course it was about stabilization last year but wouldnt it be nice just to have a proper back with a few quid in the bank, like Rotherham. We will always be a struggling club, you need money and backign to move forward - look at Yeovil yes they got promoted but withouth substancial backign they were staright back down.[/p][/quote]What we should do is increase ticket prices, they are too cheap for this division imo. Not a big hike but £10-£20 increase would make quite a difference and still be dirt cheap.[/p][/quote]If you thought your season ticket was too cheap you had the option of waiting till it went up before purchasing. Bet you didn't though?[/p][/quote]Bet I did though!! Nickloza
  • Score: 3

7:30pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Nickloza says...

Nickloza wrote:
Citygent1960 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
bantam34 wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
bantam34 wrote: IT WAS ONLY LASY YEAR WE WERE BIDDING £100K + FOR PAUL BENSON (where has that money gone?)..........we will never get anywhere with free transfers
It was at least 2 years ago if I remember. Do you seriously think that the club just put £100k in a box somewhere and have not spent that £100k in the 2 years since? £100K is about 4 months of McLeans wages.
yes good point, but as a poster above righlty says, 2 wembley visits, a promotion and the sale of wells and what are we left with? Granted we have payed off the offie block and save substantial ammount of rent but it feels like we have stood still. Of course it was about stabilization last year but wouldnt it be nice just to have a proper back with a few quid in the bank, like Rotherham. We will always be a struggling club, you need money and backign to move forward - look at Yeovil yes they got promoted but withouth substancial backign they were staright back down.
What we should do is increase ticket prices, they are too cheap for this division imo. Not a big hike but £10-£20 increase would make quite a difference and still be dirt cheap.
If you thought your season ticket was too cheap you had the option of waiting till it went up before purchasing. Bet you didn't though?
Bet I did though!!
And if they were put up it wouldn't matter would it? Can't have it always, cheap tickets and a larger budget, something has to give somewhere. I am not suggesting a massive rise but when was the last time they went up? We are in a higher league now therefore higher wages.
[quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Citygent1960[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantam34[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantam34[/bold] wrote: IT WAS ONLY LASY YEAR WE WERE BIDDING £100K + FOR PAUL BENSON (where has that money gone?)..........we will never get anywhere with free transfers[/p][/quote]It was at least 2 years ago if I remember. Do you seriously think that the club just put £100k in a box somewhere and have not spent that £100k in the 2 years since? £100K is about 4 months of McLeans wages.[/p][/quote]yes good point, but as a poster above righlty says, 2 wembley visits, a promotion and the sale of wells and what are we left with? Granted we have payed off the offie block and save substantial ammount of rent but it feels like we have stood still. Of course it was about stabilization last year but wouldnt it be nice just to have a proper back with a few quid in the bank, like Rotherham. We will always be a struggling club, you need money and backign to move forward - look at Yeovil yes they got promoted but withouth substancial backign they were staright back down.[/p][/quote]What we should do is increase ticket prices, they are too cheap for this division imo. Not a big hike but £10-£20 increase would make quite a difference and still be dirt cheap.[/p][/quote]If you thought your season ticket was too cheap you had the option of waiting till it went up before purchasing. Bet you didn't though?[/p][/quote]Bet I did though!![/p][/quote]And if they were put up it wouldn't matter would it? Can't have it always, cheap tickets and a larger budget, something has to give somewhere. I am not suggesting a massive rise but when was the last time they went up? We are in a higher league now therefore higher wages. Nickloza
  • Score: 3

7:57pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Waynus1971 says...

Nickloza wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Citygent1960 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
bantam34 wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
bantam34 wrote: IT WAS ONLY LASY YEAR WE WERE BIDDING £100K + FOR PAUL BENSON (where has that money gone?)..........we will never get anywhere with free transfers
It was at least 2 years ago if I remember. Do you seriously think that the club just put £100k in a box somewhere and have not spent that £100k in the 2 years since? £100K is about 4 months of McLeans wages.
yes good point, but as a poster above righlty says, 2 wembley visits, a promotion and the sale of wells and what are we left with? Granted we have payed off the offie block and save substantial ammount of rent but it feels like we have stood still. Of course it was about stabilization last year but wouldnt it be nice just to have a proper back with a few quid in the bank, like Rotherham. We will always be a struggling club, you need money and backign to move forward - look at Yeovil yes they got promoted but withouth substancial backign they were staright back down.
What we should do is increase ticket prices, they are too cheap for this division imo. Not a big hike but £10-£20 increase would make quite a difference and still be dirt cheap.
If you thought your season ticket was too cheap you had the option of waiting till it went up before purchasing. Bet you didn't though?
Bet I did though!!
And if they were put up it wouldn't matter would it? Can't have it always, cheap tickets and a larger budget, something has to give somewhere. I am not suggesting a massive rise but when was the last time they went up? We are in a higher league now therefore higher wages.
The problem is that footfall would diminish. We are already about 500 down on last season, despite keeping prices the same. Increase the costs and more fans leave; it's all relative and why Baldwin doesn't see the need to put prices up
[quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Citygent1960[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantam34[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantam34[/bold] wrote: IT WAS ONLY LASY YEAR WE WERE BIDDING £100K + FOR PAUL BENSON (where has that money gone?)..........we will never get anywhere with free transfers[/p][/quote]It was at least 2 years ago if I remember. Do you seriously think that the club just put £100k in a box somewhere and have not spent that £100k in the 2 years since? £100K is about 4 months of McLeans wages.[/p][/quote]yes good point, but as a poster above righlty says, 2 wembley visits, a promotion and the sale of wells and what are we left with? Granted we have payed off the offie block and save substantial ammount of rent but it feels like we have stood still. Of course it was about stabilization last year but wouldnt it be nice just to have a proper back with a few quid in the bank, like Rotherham. We will always be a struggling club, you need money and backign to move forward - look at Yeovil yes they got promoted but withouth substancial backign they were staright back down.[/p][/quote]What we should do is increase ticket prices, they are too cheap for this division imo. Not a big hike but £10-£20 increase would make quite a difference and still be dirt cheap.[/p][/quote]If you thought your season ticket was too cheap you had the option of waiting till it went up before purchasing. Bet you didn't though?[/p][/quote]Bet I did though!![/p][/quote]And if they were put up it wouldn't matter would it? Can't have it always, cheap tickets and a larger budget, something has to give somewhere. I am not suggesting a massive rise but when was the last time they went up? We are in a higher league now therefore higher wages.[/p][/quote]The problem is that footfall would diminish. We are already about 500 down on last season, despite keeping prices the same. Increase the costs and more fans leave; it's all relative and why Baldwin doesn't see the need to put prices up Waynus1971
  • Score: -1

8:14pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Nickloza says...

Waynus1971 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Citygent1960 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
bantam34 wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
bantam34 wrote: IT WAS ONLY LASY YEAR WE WERE BIDDING £100K + FOR PAUL BENSON (where has that money gone?)..........we will never get anywhere with free transfers
It was at least 2 years ago if I remember. Do you seriously think that the club just put £100k in a box somewhere and have not spent that £100k in the 2 years since? £100K is about 4 months of McLeans wages.
yes good point, but as a poster above righlty says, 2 wembley visits, a promotion and the sale of wells and what are we left with? Granted we have payed off the offie block and save substantial ammount of rent but it feels like we have stood still. Of course it was about stabilization last year but wouldnt it be nice just to have a proper back with a few quid in the bank, like Rotherham. We will always be a struggling club, you need money and backign to move forward - look at Yeovil yes they got promoted but withouth substancial backign they were staright back down.
What we should do is increase ticket prices, they are too cheap for this division imo. Not a big hike but £10-£20 increase would make quite a difference and still be dirt cheap.
If you thought your season ticket was too cheap you had the option of waiting till it went up before purchasing. Bet you didn't though?
Bet I did though!!
And if they were put up it wouldn't matter would it? Can't have it always, cheap tickets and a larger budget, something has to give somewhere. I am not suggesting a massive rise but when was the last time they went up? We are in a higher league now therefore higher wages.
The problem is that footfall would diminish. We are already about 500 down on last season, despite keeping prices the same. Increase the costs and more fans leave; it's all relative and why Baldwin doesn't see the need to put prices up
They have to go up at some point, it's basic economics. A small rise would not see a great drop off imo and they would soon return if we started to get some kind of success, which though not guaranteed would give us a better chance. People will pay to see a winning team.
[quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Citygent1960[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantam34[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantam34[/bold] wrote: IT WAS ONLY LASY YEAR WE WERE BIDDING £100K + FOR PAUL BENSON (where has that money gone?)..........we will never get anywhere with free transfers[/p][/quote]It was at least 2 years ago if I remember. Do you seriously think that the club just put £100k in a box somewhere and have not spent that £100k in the 2 years since? £100K is about 4 months of McLeans wages.[/p][/quote]yes good point, but as a poster above righlty says, 2 wembley visits, a promotion and the sale of wells and what are we left with? Granted we have payed off the offie block and save substantial ammount of rent but it feels like we have stood still. Of course it was about stabilization last year but wouldnt it be nice just to have a proper back with a few quid in the bank, like Rotherham. We will always be a struggling club, you need money and backign to move forward - look at Yeovil yes they got promoted but withouth substancial backign they were staright back down.[/p][/quote]What we should do is increase ticket prices, they are too cheap for this division imo. Not a big hike but £10-£20 increase would make quite a difference and still be dirt cheap.[/p][/quote]If you thought your season ticket was too cheap you had the option of waiting till it went up before purchasing. Bet you didn't though?[/p][/quote]Bet I did though!![/p][/quote]And if they were put up it wouldn't matter would it? Can't have it always, cheap tickets and a larger budget, something has to give somewhere. I am not suggesting a massive rise but when was the last time they went up? We are in a higher league now therefore higher wages.[/p][/quote]The problem is that footfall would diminish. We are already about 500 down on last season, despite keeping prices the same. Increase the costs and more fans leave; it's all relative and why Baldwin doesn't see the need to put prices up[/p][/quote]They have to go up at some point, it's basic economics. A small rise would not see a great drop off imo and they would soon return if we started to get some kind of success, which though not guaranteed would give us a better chance. People will pay to see a winning team. Nickloza
  • Score: 3

9:27pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Citygent1960 says...

Nickloza wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Citygent1960 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
bantam34 wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
bantam34 wrote: IT WAS ONLY LASY YEAR WE WERE BIDDING £100K + FOR PAUL BENSON (where has that money gone?)..........we will never get anywhere with free transfers
It was at least 2 years ago if I remember. Do you seriously think that the club just put £100k in a box somewhere and have not spent that £100k in the 2 years since? £100K is about 4 months of McLeans wages.
yes good point, but as a poster above righlty says, 2 wembley visits, a promotion and the sale of wells and what are we left with? Granted we have payed off the offie block and save substantial ammount of rent but it feels like we have stood still. Of course it was about stabilization last year but wouldnt it be nice just to have a proper back with a few quid in the bank, like Rotherham. We will always be a struggling club, you need money and backign to move forward - look at Yeovil yes they got promoted but withouth substancial backign they were staright back down.
What we should do is increase ticket prices, they are too cheap for this division imo. Not a big hike but £10-£20 increase would make quite a difference and still be dirt cheap.
If you thought your season ticket was too cheap you had the option of waiting till it went up before purchasing. Bet you didn't though?
Bet I did though!!
And if they were put up it wouldn't matter would it? Can't have it always, cheap tickets and a larger budget, something has to give somewhere. I am not suggesting a massive rise but when was the last time they went up? We are in a higher league now therefore higher wages.
The problem is that footfall would diminish. We are already about 500 down on last season, despite keeping prices the same. Increase the costs and more fans leave; it's all relative and why Baldwin doesn't see the need to put prices up
They have to go up at some point, it's basic economics. A small rise would not see a great drop off imo and they would soon return if we started to get some kind of success, which though not guaranteed would give us a better chance. People will pay to see a winning team.
Hats off to you nickloza. It is just a shame the majority of the supporters wages don't go up at the same rate as the players when we get promoted then we could all afford to pay a bit more!
[quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Citygent1960[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantam34[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantam34[/bold] wrote: IT WAS ONLY LASY YEAR WE WERE BIDDING £100K + FOR PAUL BENSON (where has that money gone?)..........we will never get anywhere with free transfers[/p][/quote]It was at least 2 years ago if I remember. Do you seriously think that the club just put £100k in a box somewhere and have not spent that £100k in the 2 years since? £100K is about 4 months of McLeans wages.[/p][/quote]yes good point, but as a poster above righlty says, 2 wembley visits, a promotion and the sale of wells and what are we left with? Granted we have payed off the offie block and save substantial ammount of rent but it feels like we have stood still. Of course it was about stabilization last year but wouldnt it be nice just to have a proper back with a few quid in the bank, like Rotherham. We will always be a struggling club, you need money and backign to move forward - look at Yeovil yes they got promoted but withouth substancial backign they were staright back down.[/p][/quote]What we should do is increase ticket prices, they are too cheap for this division imo. Not a big hike but £10-£20 increase would make quite a difference and still be dirt cheap.[/p][/quote]If you thought your season ticket was too cheap you had the option of waiting till it went up before purchasing. Bet you didn't though?[/p][/quote]Bet I did though!![/p][/quote]And if they were put up it wouldn't matter would it? Can't have it always, cheap tickets and a larger budget, something has to give somewhere. I am not suggesting a massive rise but when was the last time they went up? We are in a higher league now therefore higher wages.[/p][/quote]The problem is that footfall would diminish. We are already about 500 down on last season, despite keeping prices the same. Increase the costs and more fans leave; it's all relative and why Baldwin doesn't see the need to put prices up[/p][/quote]They have to go up at some point, it's basic economics. A small rise would not see a great drop off imo and they would soon return if we started to get some kind of success, which though not guaranteed would give us a better chance. People will pay to see a winning team.[/p][/quote]Hats off to you nickloza. It is just a shame the majority of the supporters wages don't go up at the same rate as the players when we get promoted then we could all afford to pay a bit more! Citygent1960
  • Score: 0

10:42pm Thu 31 Jul 14

macca1969 says...

Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Halifax Bantam wrote:
Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that
You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league.
Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3
Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.
You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.
Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.
Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really.
We have a mid table budget and that is a fact! !! That was straight from Mark Lawns mouth. So where does that leave us competing? We will be punching above our weight if top 6. Don't think the club can afford to go up competing is just words. Board are happy to stay where we are
[quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Halifax Bantam[/bold] wrote: Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that[/p][/quote]You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league. Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3 Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.[/p][/quote]You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.[/p][/quote]Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.[/p][/quote]Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really.[/p][/quote]We have a mid table budget and that is a fact! !! That was straight from Mark Lawns mouth. So where does that leave us competing? We will be punching above our weight if top 6. Don't think the club can afford to go up competing is just words. Board are happy to stay where we are macca1969
  • Score: -2

8:26am Fri 1 Aug 14

Nickloza says...

Citygent1960 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Citygent1960 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
bantam34 wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
bantam34 wrote: IT WAS ONLY LASY YEAR WE WERE BIDDING £100K + FOR PAUL BENSON (where has that money gone?)..........we will never get anywhere with free transfers
It was at least 2 years ago if I remember. Do you seriously think that the club just put £100k in a box somewhere and have not spent that £100k in the 2 years since? £100K is about 4 months of McLeans wages.
yes good point, but as a poster above righlty says, 2 wembley visits, a promotion and the sale of wells and what are we left with? Granted we have payed off the offie block and save substantial ammount of rent but it feels like we have stood still. Of course it was about stabilization last year but wouldnt it be nice just to have a proper back with a few quid in the bank, like Rotherham. We will always be a struggling club, you need money and backign to move forward - look at Yeovil yes they got promoted but withouth substancial backign they were staright back down.
What we should do is increase ticket prices, they are too cheap for this division imo. Not a big hike but £10-£20 increase would make quite a difference and still be dirt cheap.
If you thought your season ticket was too cheap you had the option of waiting till it went up before purchasing. Bet you didn't though?
Bet I did though!!
And if they were put up it wouldn't matter would it? Can't have it always, cheap tickets and a larger budget, something has to give somewhere. I am not suggesting a massive rise but when was the last time they went up? We are in a higher league now therefore higher wages.
The problem is that footfall would diminish. We are already about 500 down on last season, despite keeping prices the same. Increase the costs and more fans leave; it's all relative and why Baldwin doesn't see the need to put prices up
They have to go up at some point, it's basic economics. A small rise would not see a great drop off imo and they would soon return if we started to get some kind of success, which though not guaranteed would give us a better chance. People will pay to see a winning team.
Hats off to you nickloza. It is just a shame the majority of the supporters wages don't go up at the same rate as the players when we get promoted then we could all afford to pay a bit more!
I am sure the vast majority of fans could afford 50p to a pound a game, without much difficulty.
[quote][p][bold]Citygent1960[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Citygent1960[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantam34[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bantam34[/bold] wrote: IT WAS ONLY LASY YEAR WE WERE BIDDING £100K + FOR PAUL BENSON (where has that money gone?)..........we will never get anywhere with free transfers[/p][/quote]It was at least 2 years ago if I remember. Do you seriously think that the club just put £100k in a box somewhere and have not spent that £100k in the 2 years since? £100K is about 4 months of McLeans wages.[/p][/quote]yes good point, but as a poster above righlty says, 2 wembley visits, a promotion and the sale of wells and what are we left with? Granted we have payed off the offie block and save substantial ammount of rent but it feels like we have stood still. Of course it was about stabilization last year but wouldnt it be nice just to have a proper back with a few quid in the bank, like Rotherham. We will always be a struggling club, you need money and backign to move forward - look at Yeovil yes they got promoted but withouth substancial backign they were staright back down.[/p][/quote]What we should do is increase ticket prices, they are too cheap for this division imo. Not a big hike but £10-£20 increase would make quite a difference and still be dirt cheap.[/p][/quote]If you thought your season ticket was too cheap you had the option of waiting till it went up before purchasing. Bet you didn't though?[/p][/quote]Bet I did though!![/p][/quote]And if they were put up it wouldn't matter would it? Can't have it always, cheap tickets and a larger budget, something has to give somewhere. I am not suggesting a massive rise but when was the last time they went up? We are in a higher league now therefore higher wages.[/p][/quote]The problem is that footfall would diminish. We are already about 500 down on last season, despite keeping prices the same. Increase the costs and more fans leave; it's all relative and why Baldwin doesn't see the need to put prices up[/p][/quote]They have to go up at some point, it's basic economics. A small rise would not see a great drop off imo and they would soon return if we started to get some kind of success, which though not guaranteed would give us a better chance. People will pay to see a winning team.[/p][/quote]Hats off to you nickloza. It is just a shame the majority of the supporters wages don't go up at the same rate as the players when we get promoted then we could all afford to pay a bit more![/p][/quote]I am sure the vast majority of fans could afford 50p to a pound a game, without much difficulty. Nickloza
  • Score: 3

8:29am Fri 1 Aug 14

Nickloza says...

macca1969 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Halifax Bantam wrote:
Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that
You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league.
Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3
Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.
You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.
Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.
Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really.
We have a mid table budget and that is a fact! !! That was straight from Mark Lawns mouth. So where does that leave us competing? We will be punching above our weight if top 6. Don't think the club can afford to go up competing is just words. Board are happy to stay where we are
Time will tell just how competitive we are won't it Macca?
[quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Halifax Bantam[/bold] wrote: Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that[/p][/quote]You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league. Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3 Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.[/p][/quote]You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.[/p][/quote]Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.[/p][/quote]Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really.[/p][/quote]We have a mid table budget and that is a fact! !! That was straight from Mark Lawns mouth. So where does that leave us competing? We will be punching above our weight if top 6. Don't think the club can afford to go up competing is just words. Board are happy to stay where we are[/p][/quote]Time will tell just how competitive we are won't it Macca? Nickloza
  • Score: 2

8:37am Fri 1 Aug 14

Nickloza says...

macca1969 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Halifax Bantam wrote:
Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that
You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league.
Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3
Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.
You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.
Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.
Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really.
We have a mid table budget and that is a fact! !! That was straight from Mark Lawns mouth. So where does that leave us competing? We will be punching above our weight if top 6. Don't think the club can afford to go up competing is just words. Board are happy to stay where we are
David Badwins exact words Macca The budget cuts

An ongoing talking point all summer has been the news that the playing budget has been cut to the tune of £500k – a considerable sum of money, with last season’s wage bill rumoured to be just over £2 million. David stressed that he believes the revised budget is nevertheless competitive, and highlighted a wide-ranging focus on delivering greater efficiency in how the club operates, which includes the playing staff.

“There has been a lot of talk about the budget being hacked back by half a million. The bottom line is that, over the last few years, we have had players in the building that have not come in on cheap wages, and yet their game contribution to the team has been sporadic to say the least.

“I recently did an article in the T&A about efficiencies. This budget is not a hack-back, it is still a very strong budget. And as part of doing that, we are checking the efficiencies of each transfer so that we aren’t paying, for want of a better word, dead money.”
[quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Halifax Bantam[/bold] wrote: Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that[/p][/quote]You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league. Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3 Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.[/p][/quote]You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.[/p][/quote]Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.[/p][/quote]Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really.[/p][/quote]We have a mid table budget and that is a fact! !! That was straight from Mark Lawns mouth. So where does that leave us competing? We will be punching above our weight if top 6. Don't think the club can afford to go up competing is just words. Board are happy to stay where we are[/p][/quote]David Badwins exact words Macca The budget cuts An ongoing talking point all summer has been the news that the playing budget has been cut to the tune of £500k – a considerable sum of money, with last season’s wage bill rumoured to be just over £2 million. David stressed that he believes the revised budget is nevertheless competitive, and highlighted a wide-ranging focus on delivering greater efficiency in how the club operates, which includes the playing staff. “There has been a lot of talk about the budget being hacked back by half a million. The bottom line is that, over the last few years, we have had players in the building that have not come in on cheap wages, and yet their game contribution to the team has been sporadic to say the least. “I recently did an article in the T&A about efficiencies. This budget is not a hack-back, it is still a very strong budget. And as part of doing that, we are checking the efficiencies of each transfer so that we aren’t paying, for want of a better word, dead money.” Nickloza
  • Score: 2

9:11am Fri 1 Aug 14

Pablo says...

If the budget for this year is just over £1.5M, no wonder we're struggling to get bodies in, given that Davies, McLean, Darby, Hanson and, probably Yeates must account for over £1M.

The figures don't stack up.
If the budget for this year is just over £1.5M, no wonder we're struggling to get bodies in, given that Davies, McLean, Darby, Hanson and, probably Yeates must account for over £1M. The figures don't stack up. Pablo
  • Score: -2

1:59pm Fri 1 Aug 14

macca1969 says...

Nickloza wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Halifax Bantam wrote:
Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that
You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league.
Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3
Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.
You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.
Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.
Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really.
We have a mid table budget and that is a fact! !! That was straight from Mark Lawns mouth. So where does that leave us competing? We will be punching above our weight if top 6. Don't think the club can afford to go up competing is just words. Board are happy to stay where we are
David Badwins exact words Macca The budget cuts

An ongoing talking point all summer has been the news that the playing budget has been cut to the tune of £500k – a considerable sum of money, with last season’s wage bill rumoured to be just over £2 million. David stressed that he believes the revised budget is nevertheless competitive, and highlighted a wide-ranging focus on delivering greater efficiency in how the club operates, which includes the playing staff.

“There has been a lot of talk about the budget being hacked back by half a million. The bottom line is that, over the last few years, we have had players in the building that have not come in on cheap wages, and yet their game contribution to the team has been sporadic to say the least.

“I recently did an article in the T&A about efficiencies. This budget is not a hack-back, it is still a very strong budget. And as part of doing that, we are checking the efficiencies of each transfer so that we aren’t paying, for want of a better word, dead money.”
It's up to the manager on how he spends the budget not Baldwin. Up to now parky has earned and created far more monies than he has spent. He has also achieved all the boards targets and more, so really Baldwin and the board should allow parky to spend how he sees fit with no interference. Telling parky that some players that have not played etc that in his eyes are a waste of resources is an insult to parky
[quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Halifax Bantam[/bold] wrote: Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that[/p][/quote]You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league. Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3 Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.[/p][/quote]You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.[/p][/quote]Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.[/p][/quote]Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really.[/p][/quote]We have a mid table budget and that is a fact! !! That was straight from Mark Lawns mouth. So where does that leave us competing? We will be punching above our weight if top 6. Don't think the club can afford to go up competing is just words. Board are happy to stay where we are[/p][/quote]David Badwins exact words Macca The budget cuts An ongoing talking point all summer has been the news that the playing budget has been cut to the tune of £500k – a considerable sum of money, with last season’s wage bill rumoured to be just over £2 million. David stressed that he believes the revised budget is nevertheless competitive, and highlighted a wide-ranging focus on delivering greater efficiency in how the club operates, which includes the playing staff. “There has been a lot of talk about the budget being hacked back by half a million. The bottom line is that, over the last few years, we have had players in the building that have not come in on cheap wages, and yet their game contribution to the team has been sporadic to say the least. “I recently did an article in the T&A about efficiencies. This budget is not a hack-back, it is still a very strong budget. And as part of doing that, we are checking the efficiencies of each transfer so that we aren’t paying, for want of a better word, dead money.”[/p][/quote]It's up to the manager on how he spends the budget not Baldwin. Up to now parky has earned and created far more monies than he has spent. He has also achieved all the boards targets and more, so really Baldwin and the board should allow parky to spend how he sees fit with no interference. Telling parky that some players that have not played etc that in his eyes are a waste of resources is an insult to parky macca1969
  • Score: 1

2:43pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Michael Clayton says...

macca1969 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Halifax Bantam wrote: Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that
You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league. Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3 Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.
You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.
Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.
Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really.
We have a mid table budget and that is a fact! !! That was straight from Mark Lawns mouth. So where does that leave us competing? We will be punching above our weight if top 6. Don't think the club can afford to go up competing is just words. Board are happy to stay where we are
David Badwins exact words Macca The budget cuts An ongoing talking point all summer has been the news that the playing budget has been cut to the tune of £500k – a considerable sum of money, with last season’s wage bill rumoured to be just over £2 million. David stressed that he believes the revised budget is nevertheless competitive, and highlighted a wide-ranging focus on delivering greater efficiency in how the club operates, which includes the playing staff. “There has been a lot of talk about the budget being hacked back by half a million. The bottom line is that, over the last few years, we have had players in the building that have not come in on cheap wages, and yet their game contribution to the team has been sporadic to say the least. “I recently did an article in the T&A about efficiencies. This budget is not a hack-back, it is still a very strong budget. And as part of doing that, we are checking the efficiencies of each transfer so that we aren’t paying, for want of a better word, dead money.”
It's up to the manager on how he spends the budget not Baldwin. Up to now parky has earned and created far more monies than he has spent. He has also achieved all the boards targets and more, so really Baldwin and the board should allow parky to spend how he sees fit with no interference. Telling parky that some players that have not played etc that in his eyes are a waste of resources is an insult to parky
Putting it bluntly, I know Jack Schitt about the finances of the football club.

I do not know how much the players earn.

I do not know what bonuses they are on.

I do not know what percentage of the overall budget the £500,000 represents.

Therefore, I reserve my opinion because otherwise I would be making ill-informed comments out of my rear end.
[quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Halifax Bantam[/bold] wrote: Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that[/p][/quote]You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league. Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3 Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.[/p][/quote]You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.[/p][/quote]Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.[/p][/quote]Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really.[/p][/quote]We have a mid table budget and that is a fact! !! That was straight from Mark Lawns mouth. So where does that leave us competing? We will be punching above our weight if top 6. Don't think the club can afford to go up competing is just words. Board are happy to stay where we are[/p][/quote]David Badwins exact words Macca The budget cuts An ongoing talking point all summer has been the news that the playing budget has been cut to the tune of £500k – a considerable sum of money, with last season’s wage bill rumoured to be just over £2 million. David stressed that he believes the revised budget is nevertheless competitive, and highlighted a wide-ranging focus on delivering greater efficiency in how the club operates, which includes the playing staff. “There has been a lot of talk about the budget being hacked back by half a million. The bottom line is that, over the last few years, we have had players in the building that have not come in on cheap wages, and yet their game contribution to the team has been sporadic to say the least. “I recently did an article in the T&A about efficiencies. This budget is not a hack-back, it is still a very strong budget. And as part of doing that, we are checking the efficiencies of each transfer so that we aren’t paying, for want of a better word, dead money.”[/p][/quote]It's up to the manager on how he spends the budget not Baldwin. Up to now parky has earned and created far more monies than he has spent. He has also achieved all the boards targets and more, so really Baldwin and the board should allow parky to spend how he sees fit with no interference. Telling parky that some players that have not played etc that in his eyes are a waste of resources is an insult to parky[/p][/quote]Putting it bluntly, I know Jack Schitt about the finances of the football club. I do not know how much the players earn. I do not know what bonuses they are on. I do not know what percentage of the overall budget the £500,000 represents. Therefore, I reserve my opinion because otherwise I would be making ill-informed comments out of my rear end. Michael Clayton
  • Score: 3

3:14pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Pablo says...

Michael Clayton wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Halifax Bantam wrote: Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that
You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league. Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3 Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.
You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.
Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.
Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really.
We have a mid table budget and that is a fact! !! That was straight from Mark Lawns mouth. So where does that leave us competing? We will be punching above our weight if top 6. Don't think the club can afford to go up competing is just words. Board are happy to stay where we are
David Badwins exact words Macca The budget cuts An ongoing talking point all summer has been the news that the playing budget has been cut to the tune of £500k – a considerable sum of money, with last season’s wage bill rumoured to be just over £2 million. David stressed that he believes the revised budget is nevertheless competitive, and highlighted a wide-ranging focus on delivering greater efficiency in how the club operates, which includes the playing staff. “There has been a lot of talk about the budget being hacked back by half a million. The bottom line is that, over the last few years, we have had players in the building that have not come in on cheap wages, and yet their game contribution to the team has been sporadic to say the least. “I recently did an article in the T&A about efficiencies. This budget is not a hack-back, it is still a very strong budget. And as part of doing that, we are checking the efficiencies of each transfer so that we aren’t paying, for want of a better word, dead money.”
It's up to the manager on how he spends the budget not Baldwin. Up to now parky has earned and created far more monies than he has spent. He has also achieved all the boards targets and more, so really Baldwin and the board should allow parky to spend how he sees fit with no interference. Telling parky that some players that have not played etc that in his eyes are a waste of resources is an insult to parky
Putting it bluntly, I know Jack Schitt about the finances of the football club.

I do not know how much the players earn.

I do not know what bonuses they are on.

I do not know what percentage of the overall budget the £500,000 represents.

Therefore, I reserve my opinion because otherwise I would be making ill-informed comments out of my rear end.
McLean's earnings were publicised. The club also informed us that Davies had a clause stating he had to be the highest earner. With some basic maths, lonnie, it is easy to get very close to their combined earnings. That alone makes a big hole in the budget.

Yeates came from a higher division. Hanson, Darby, McArdle resigned on improved contracts. With even the most conservative guess for the wages of these four, you can't get a squad of nineteen or twenty players at our level, for a total budget of £1.5M.

Is that any easier to digest, lonnie?
[quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Halifax Bantam[/bold] wrote: Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that[/p][/quote]You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league. Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3 Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.[/p][/quote]You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.[/p][/quote]Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.[/p][/quote]Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really.[/p][/quote]We have a mid table budget and that is a fact! !! That was straight from Mark Lawns mouth. So where does that leave us competing? We will be punching above our weight if top 6. Don't think the club can afford to go up competing is just words. Board are happy to stay where we are[/p][/quote]David Badwins exact words Macca The budget cuts An ongoing talking point all summer has been the news that the playing budget has been cut to the tune of £500k – a considerable sum of money, with last season’s wage bill rumoured to be just over £2 million. David stressed that he believes the revised budget is nevertheless competitive, and highlighted a wide-ranging focus on delivering greater efficiency in how the club operates, which includes the playing staff. “There has been a lot of talk about the budget being hacked back by half a million. The bottom line is that, over the last few years, we have had players in the building that have not come in on cheap wages, and yet their game contribution to the team has been sporadic to say the least. “I recently did an article in the T&A about efficiencies. This budget is not a hack-back, it is still a very strong budget. And as part of doing that, we are checking the efficiencies of each transfer so that we aren’t paying, for want of a better word, dead money.”[/p][/quote]It's up to the manager on how he spends the budget not Baldwin. Up to now parky has earned and created far more monies than he has spent. He has also achieved all the boards targets and more, so really Baldwin and the board should allow parky to spend how he sees fit with no interference. Telling parky that some players that have not played etc that in his eyes are a waste of resources is an insult to parky[/p][/quote]Putting it bluntly, I know Jack Schitt about the finances of the football club. I do not know how much the players earn. I do not know what bonuses they are on. I do not know what percentage of the overall budget the £500,000 represents. Therefore, I reserve my opinion because otherwise I would be making ill-informed comments out of my rear end.[/p][/quote]McLean's earnings were publicised. The club also informed us that Davies had a clause stating he had to be the highest earner. With some basic maths, lonnie, it is easy to get very close to their combined earnings. That alone makes a big hole in the budget. Yeates came from a higher division. Hanson, Darby, McArdle resigned on improved contracts. With even the most conservative guess for the wages of these four, you can't get a squad of nineteen or twenty players at our level, for a total budget of £1.5M. Is that any easier to digest, lonnie? Pablo
  • Score: 1

3:38pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Nickloza says...

Pablo wrote:
Michael Clayton wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Halifax Bantam wrote: Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that
You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league. Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3 Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.
You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.
Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.
Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really.
We have a mid table budget and that is a fact! !! That was straight from Mark Lawns mouth. So where does that leave us competing? We will be punching above our weight if top 6. Don't think the club can afford to go up competing is just words. Board are happy to stay where we are
David Badwins exact words Macca The budget cuts An ongoing talking point all summer has been the news that the playing budget has been cut to the tune of £500k – a considerable sum of money, with last season’s wage bill rumoured to be just over £2 million. David stressed that he believes the revised budget is nevertheless competitive, and highlighted a wide-ranging focus on delivering greater efficiency in how the club operates, which includes the playing staff. “There has been a lot of talk about the budget being hacked back by half a million. The bottom line is that, over the last few years, we have had players in the building that have not come in on cheap wages, and yet their game contribution to the team has been sporadic to say the least. “I recently did an article in the T&A about efficiencies. This budget is not a hack-back, it is still a very strong budget. And as part of doing that, we are checking the efficiencies of each transfer so that we aren’t paying, for want of a better word, dead money.”
It's up to the manager on how he spends the budget not Baldwin. Up to now parky has earned and created far more monies than he has spent. He has also achieved all the boards targets and more, so really Baldwin and the board should allow parky to spend how he sees fit with no interference. Telling parky that some players that have not played etc that in his eyes are a waste of resources is an insult to parky
Putting it bluntly, I know Jack Schitt about the finances of the football club.

I do not know how much the players earn.

I do not know what bonuses they are on.

I do not know what percentage of the overall budget the £500,000 represents.

Therefore, I reserve my opinion because otherwise I would be making ill-informed comments out of my rear end.
McLean's earnings were publicised. The club also informed us that Davies had a clause stating he had to be the highest earner. With some basic maths, lonnie, it is easy to get very close to their combined earnings. That alone makes a big hole in the budget.

Yeates came from a higher division. Hanson, Darby, McArdle resigned on improved contracts. With even the most conservative guess for the wages of these four, you can't get a squad of nineteen or twenty players at our level, for a total budget of £1.5M.

Is that any easier to digest, lonnie?
You better have a word with those who think you can then, btw look sharp the season starts soon.
[quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Halifax Bantam[/bold] wrote: Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that[/p][/quote]You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league. Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3 Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.[/p][/quote]You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.[/p][/quote]Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.[/p][/quote]Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really.[/p][/quote]We have a mid table budget and that is a fact! !! That was straight from Mark Lawns mouth. So where does that leave us competing? We will be punching above our weight if top 6. Don't think the club can afford to go up competing is just words. Board are happy to stay where we are[/p][/quote]David Badwins exact words Macca The budget cuts An ongoing talking point all summer has been the news that the playing budget has been cut to the tune of £500k – a considerable sum of money, with last season’s wage bill rumoured to be just over £2 million. David stressed that he believes the revised budget is nevertheless competitive, and highlighted a wide-ranging focus on delivering greater efficiency in how the club operates, which includes the playing staff. “There has been a lot of talk about the budget being hacked back by half a million. The bottom line is that, over the last few years, we have had players in the building that have not come in on cheap wages, and yet their game contribution to the team has been sporadic to say the least. “I recently did an article in the T&A about efficiencies. This budget is not a hack-back, it is still a very strong budget. And as part of doing that, we are checking the efficiencies of each transfer so that we aren’t paying, for want of a better word, dead money.”[/p][/quote]It's up to the manager on how he spends the budget not Baldwin. Up to now parky has earned and created far more monies than he has spent. He has also achieved all the boards targets and more, so really Baldwin and the board should allow parky to spend how he sees fit with no interference. Telling parky that some players that have not played etc that in his eyes are a waste of resources is an insult to parky[/p][/quote]Putting it bluntly, I know Jack Schitt about the finances of the football club. I do not know how much the players earn. I do not know what bonuses they are on. I do not know what percentage of the overall budget the £500,000 represents. Therefore, I reserve my opinion because otherwise I would be making ill-informed comments out of my rear end.[/p][/quote]McLean's earnings were publicised. The club also informed us that Davies had a clause stating he had to be the highest earner. With some basic maths, lonnie, it is easy to get very close to their combined earnings. That alone makes a big hole in the budget. Yeates came from a higher division. Hanson, Darby, McArdle resigned on improved contracts. With even the most conservative guess for the wages of these four, you can't get a squad of nineteen or twenty players at our level, for a total budget of £1.5M. Is that any easier to digest, lonnie?[/p][/quote]You better have a word with those who think you can then, btw look sharp the season starts soon. Nickloza
  • Score: 2

3:48pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Nickloza says...

Pablo wrote:
Michael Clayton wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Halifax Bantam wrote: Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that
You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league. Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3 Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.
You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.
Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.
Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really.
We have a mid table budget and that is a fact! !! That was straight from Mark Lawns mouth. So where does that leave us competing? We will be punching above our weight if top 6. Don't think the club can afford to go up competing is just words. Board are happy to stay where we are
David Badwins exact words Macca The budget cuts An ongoing talking point all summer has been the news that the playing budget has been cut to the tune of £500k – a considerable sum of money, with last season’s wage bill rumoured to be just over £2 million. David stressed that he believes the revised budget is nevertheless competitive, and highlighted a wide-ranging focus on delivering greater efficiency in how the club operates, which includes the playing staff. “There has been a lot of talk about the budget being hacked back by half a million. The bottom line is that, over the last few years, we have had players in the building that have not come in on cheap wages, and yet their game contribution to the team has been sporadic to say the least. “I recently did an article in the T&A about efficiencies. This budget is not a hack-back, it is still a very strong budget. And as part of doing that, we are checking the efficiencies of each transfer so that we aren’t paying, for want of a better word, dead money.”
It's up to the manager on how he spends the budget not Baldwin. Up to now parky has earned and created far more monies than he has spent. He has also achieved all the boards targets and more, so really Baldwin and the board should allow parky to spend how he sees fit with no interference. Telling parky that some players that have not played etc that in his eyes are a waste of resources is an insult to parky
Putting it bluntly, I know Jack Schitt about the finances of the football club.

I do not know how much the players earn.

I do not know what bonuses they are on.

I do not know what percentage of the overall budget the £500,000 represents.

Therefore, I reserve my opinion because otherwise I would be making ill-informed comments out of my rear end.
McLean's earnings were publicised. The club also informed us that Davies had a clause stating he had to be the highest earner. With some basic maths, lonnie, it is easy to get very close to their combined earnings. That alone makes a big hole in the budget.

Yeates came from a higher division. Hanson, Darby, McArdle resigned on improved contracts. With even the most conservative guess for the wages of these four, you can't get a squad of nineteen or twenty players at our level, for a total budget of £1.5M.

Is that any easier to digest, lonnie?
Pablo, where were McLeans wages made public by the club? I have searched everywhere and can't find it! As per, basing everything on rumour!
[quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Halifax Bantam[/bold] wrote: Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that[/p][/quote]You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league. Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3 Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.[/p][/quote]You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.[/p][/quote]Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.[/p][/quote]Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really.[/p][/quote]We have a mid table budget and that is a fact! !! That was straight from Mark Lawns mouth. So where does that leave us competing? We will be punching above our weight if top 6. Don't think the club can afford to go up competing is just words. Board are happy to stay where we are[/p][/quote]David Badwins exact words Macca The budget cuts An ongoing talking point all summer has been the news that the playing budget has been cut to the tune of £500k – a considerable sum of money, with last season’s wage bill rumoured to be just over £2 million. David stressed that he believes the revised budget is nevertheless competitive, and highlighted a wide-ranging focus on delivering greater efficiency in how the club operates, which includes the playing staff. “There has been a lot of talk about the budget being hacked back by half a million. The bottom line is that, over the last few years, we have had players in the building that have not come in on cheap wages, and yet their game contribution to the team has been sporadic to say the least. “I recently did an article in the T&A about efficiencies. This budget is not a hack-back, it is still a very strong budget. And as part of doing that, we are checking the efficiencies of each transfer so that we aren’t paying, for want of a better word, dead money.”[/p][/quote]It's up to the manager on how he spends the budget not Baldwin. Up to now parky has earned and created far more monies than he has spent. He has also achieved all the boards targets and more, so really Baldwin and the board should allow parky to spend how he sees fit with no interference. Telling parky that some players that have not played etc that in his eyes are a waste of resources is an insult to parky[/p][/quote]Putting it bluntly, I know Jack Schitt about the finances of the football club. I do not know how much the players earn. I do not know what bonuses they are on. I do not know what percentage of the overall budget the £500,000 represents. Therefore, I reserve my opinion because otherwise I would be making ill-informed comments out of my rear end.[/p][/quote]McLean's earnings were publicised. The club also informed us that Davies had a clause stating he had to be the highest earner. With some basic maths, lonnie, it is easy to get very close to their combined earnings. That alone makes a big hole in the budget. Yeates came from a higher division. Hanson, Darby, McArdle resigned on improved contracts. With even the most conservative guess for the wages of these four, you can't get a squad of nineteen or twenty players at our level, for a total budget of £1.5M. Is that any easier to digest, lonnie?[/p][/quote]Pablo, where were McLeans wages made public by the club? I have searched everywhere and can't find it! As per, basing everything on rumour! Nickloza
  • Score: 2

4:25pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Michael Clayton says...

Pablo wrote:
Michael Clayton wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Halifax Bantam wrote: Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that
You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league. Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3 Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.
You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.
Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.
Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really.
We have a mid table budget and that is a fact! !! That was straight from Mark Lawns mouth. So where does that leave us competing? We will be punching above our weight if top 6. Don't think the club can afford to go up competing is just words. Board are happy to stay where we are
David Badwins exact words Macca The budget cuts An ongoing talking point all summer has been the news that the playing budget has been cut to the tune of £500k – a considerable sum of money, with last season’s wage bill rumoured to be just over £2 million. David stressed that he believes the revised budget is nevertheless competitive, and highlighted a wide-ranging focus on delivering greater efficiency in how the club operates, which includes the playing staff. “There has been a lot of talk about the budget being hacked back by half a million. The bottom line is that, over the last few years, we have had players in the building that have not come in on cheap wages, and yet their game contribution to the team has been sporadic to say the least. “I recently did an article in the T&A about efficiencies. This budget is not a hack-back, it is still a very strong budget. And as part of doing that, we are checking the efficiencies of each transfer so that we aren’t paying, for want of a better word, dead money.”
It's up to the manager on how he spends the budget not Baldwin. Up to now parky has earned and created far more monies than he has spent. He has also achieved all the boards targets and more, so really Baldwin and the board should allow parky to spend how he sees fit with no interference. Telling parky that some players that have not played etc that in his eyes are a waste of resources is an insult to parky
Putting it bluntly, I know Jack Schitt about the finances of the football club. I do not know how much the players earn. I do not know what bonuses they are on. I do not know what percentage of the overall budget the £500,000 represents. Therefore, I reserve my opinion because otherwise I would be making ill-informed comments out of my rear end.
McLean's earnings were publicised. The club also informed us that Davies had a clause stating he had to be the highest earner. With some basic maths, lonnie, it is easy to get very close to their combined earnings. That alone makes a big hole in the budget. Yeates came from a higher division. Hanson, Darby, McArdle resigned on improved contracts. With even the most conservative guess for the wages of these four, you can't get a squad of nineteen or twenty players at our level, for a total budget of £1.5M. Is that any easier to digest, lonnie?
I am flattered if you think I am one and the same person as Lonnie Jockstrap! Unfortunately, he had the power of patience that I sometimes lack.

Anyway, I would rather keep my mouth shut than stumble out some inadequately reasoned and unsubstantiated account of the financial situation.

Throwing a few figures into the arena has a potential for further distoritng the reality rather than providng clarification.
[quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Halifax Bantam[/bold] wrote: Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that[/p][/quote]You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league. Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3 Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.[/p][/quote]You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.[/p][/quote]Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.[/p][/quote]Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really.[/p][/quote]We have a mid table budget and that is a fact! !! That was straight from Mark Lawns mouth. So where does that leave us competing? We will be punching above our weight if top 6. Don't think the club can afford to go up competing is just words. Board are happy to stay where we are[/p][/quote]David Badwins exact words Macca The budget cuts An ongoing talking point all summer has been the news that the playing budget has been cut to the tune of £500k – a considerable sum of money, with last season’s wage bill rumoured to be just over £2 million. David stressed that he believes the revised budget is nevertheless competitive, and highlighted a wide-ranging focus on delivering greater efficiency in how the club operates, which includes the playing staff. “There has been a lot of talk about the budget being hacked back by half a million. The bottom line is that, over the last few years, we have had players in the building that have not come in on cheap wages, and yet their game contribution to the team has been sporadic to say the least. “I recently did an article in the T&A about efficiencies. This budget is not a hack-back, it is still a very strong budget. And as part of doing that, we are checking the efficiencies of each transfer so that we aren’t paying, for want of a better word, dead money.”[/p][/quote]It's up to the manager on how he spends the budget not Baldwin. Up to now parky has earned and created far more monies than he has spent. He has also achieved all the boards targets and more, so really Baldwin and the board should allow parky to spend how he sees fit with no interference. Telling parky that some players that have not played etc that in his eyes are a waste of resources is an insult to parky[/p][/quote]Putting it bluntly, I know Jack Schitt about the finances of the football club. I do not know how much the players earn. I do not know what bonuses they are on. I do not know what percentage of the overall budget the £500,000 represents. Therefore, I reserve my opinion because otherwise I would be making ill-informed comments out of my rear end.[/p][/quote]McLean's earnings were publicised. The club also informed us that Davies had a clause stating he had to be the highest earner. With some basic maths, lonnie, it is easy to get very close to their combined earnings. That alone makes a big hole in the budget. Yeates came from a higher division. Hanson, Darby, McArdle resigned on improved contracts. With even the most conservative guess for the wages of these four, you can't get a squad of nineteen or twenty players at our level, for a total budget of £1.5M. Is that any easier to digest, lonnie?[/p][/quote]I am flattered if you think I am one and the same person as Lonnie Jockstrap! Unfortunately, he had the power of patience that I sometimes lack. Anyway, I would rather keep my mouth shut than stumble out some inadequately reasoned and unsubstantiated account of the financial situation. Throwing a few figures into the arena has a potential for further distoritng the reality rather than providng clarification. Michael Clayton
  • Score: 2

4:45pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Nickloza says...

Michael Clayton wrote:
Pablo wrote:
Michael Clayton wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Halifax Bantam wrote: Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that
You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league. Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3 Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.
You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.
Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.
Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really.
We have a mid table budget and that is a fact! !! That was straight from Mark Lawns mouth. So where does that leave us competing? We will be punching above our weight if top 6. Don't think the club can afford to go up competing is just words. Board are happy to stay where we are
David Badwins exact words Macca The budget cuts An ongoing talking point all summer has been the news that the playing budget has been cut to the tune of £500k – a considerable sum of money, with last season’s wage bill rumoured to be just over £2 million. David stressed that he believes the revised budget is nevertheless competitive, and highlighted a wide-ranging focus on delivering greater efficiency in how the club operates, which includes the playing staff. “There has been a lot of talk about the budget being hacked back by half a million. The bottom line is that, over the last few years, we have had players in the building that have not come in on cheap wages, and yet their game contribution to the team has been sporadic to say the least. “I recently did an article in the T&A about efficiencies. This budget is not a hack-back, it is still a very strong budget. And as part of doing that, we are checking the efficiencies of each transfer so that we aren’t paying, for want of a better word, dead money.”
It's up to the manager on how he spends the budget not Baldwin. Up to now parky has earned and created far more monies than he has spent. He has also achieved all the boards targets and more, so really Baldwin and the board should allow parky to spend how he sees fit with no interference. Telling parky that some players that have not played etc that in his eyes are a waste of resources is an insult to parky
Putting it bluntly, I know Jack Schitt about the finances of the football club. I do not know how much the players earn. I do not know what bonuses they are on. I do not know what percentage of the overall budget the £500,000 represents. Therefore, I reserve my opinion because otherwise I would be making ill-informed comments out of my rear end.
McLean's earnings were publicised. The club also informed us that Davies had a clause stating he had to be the highest earner. With some basic maths, lonnie, it is easy to get very close to their combined earnings. That alone makes a big hole in the budget. Yeates came from a higher division. Hanson, Darby, McArdle resigned on improved contracts. With even the most conservative guess for the wages of these four, you can't get a squad of nineteen or twenty players at our level, for a total budget of £1.5M. Is that any easier to digest, lonnie?
I am flattered if you think I am one and the same person as Lonnie Jockstrap! Unfortunately, he had the power of patience that I sometimes lack.

Anyway, I would rather keep my mouth shut than stumble out some inadequately reasoned and unsubstantiated account of the financial situation.

Throwing a few figures into the arena has a potential for further distoritng the reality rather than providng clarification.
Hear, hear.
[quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Halifax Bantam[/bold] wrote: Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that[/p][/quote]You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league. Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3 Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.[/p][/quote]You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.[/p][/quote]Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.[/p][/quote]Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really.[/p][/quote]We have a mid table budget and that is a fact! !! That was straight from Mark Lawns mouth. So where does that leave us competing? We will be punching above our weight if top 6. Don't think the club can afford to go up competing is just words. Board are happy to stay where we are[/p][/quote]David Badwins exact words Macca The budget cuts An ongoing talking point all summer has been the news that the playing budget has been cut to the tune of £500k – a considerable sum of money, with last season’s wage bill rumoured to be just over £2 million. David stressed that he believes the revised budget is nevertheless competitive, and highlighted a wide-ranging focus on delivering greater efficiency in how the club operates, which includes the playing staff. “There has been a lot of talk about the budget being hacked back by half a million. The bottom line is that, over the last few years, we have had players in the building that have not come in on cheap wages, and yet their game contribution to the team has been sporadic to say the least. “I recently did an article in the T&A about efficiencies. This budget is not a hack-back, it is still a very strong budget. And as part of doing that, we are checking the efficiencies of each transfer so that we aren’t paying, for want of a better word, dead money.”[/p][/quote]It's up to the manager on how he spends the budget not Baldwin. Up to now parky has earned and created far more monies than he has spent. He has also achieved all the boards targets and more, so really Baldwin and the board should allow parky to spend how he sees fit with no interference. Telling parky that some players that have not played etc that in his eyes are a waste of resources is an insult to parky[/p][/quote]Putting it bluntly, I know Jack Schitt about the finances of the football club. I do not know how much the players earn. I do not know what bonuses they are on. I do not know what percentage of the overall budget the £500,000 represents. Therefore, I reserve my opinion because otherwise I would be making ill-informed comments out of my rear end.[/p][/quote]McLean's earnings were publicised. The club also informed us that Davies had a clause stating he had to be the highest earner. With some basic maths, lonnie, it is easy to get very close to their combined earnings. That alone makes a big hole in the budget. Yeates came from a higher division. Hanson, Darby, McArdle resigned on improved contracts. With even the most conservative guess for the wages of these four, you can't get a squad of nineteen or twenty players at our level, for a total budget of £1.5M. Is that any easier to digest, lonnie?[/p][/quote]I am flattered if you think I am one and the same person as Lonnie Jockstrap! Unfortunately, he had the power of patience that I sometimes lack. Anyway, I would rather keep my mouth shut than stumble out some inadequately reasoned and unsubstantiated account of the financial situation. Throwing a few figures into the arena has a potential for further distoritng the reality rather than providng clarification.[/p][/quote]Hear, hear. Nickloza
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4:49pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Michael Clayton says...

Nickloza wrote:
Pablo wrote:
Michael Clayton wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Halifax Bantam wrote: Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that
You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league. Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3 Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.
You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.
Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.
Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really.
We have a mid table budget and that is a fact! !! That was straight from Mark Lawns mouth. So where does that leave us competing? We will be punching above our weight if top 6. Don't think the club can afford to go up competing is just words. Board are happy to stay where we are
David Badwins exact words Macca The budget cuts An ongoing talking point all summer has been the news that the playing budget has been cut to the tune of £500k – a considerable sum of money, with last season’s wage bill rumoured to be just over £2 million. David stressed that he believes the revised budget is nevertheless competitive, and highlighted a wide-ranging focus on delivering greater efficiency in how the club operates, which includes the playing staff. “There has been a lot of talk about the budget being hacked back by half a million. The bottom line is that, over the last few years, we have had players in the building that have not come in on cheap wages, and yet their game contribution to the team has been sporadic to say the least. “I recently did an article in the T&A about efficiencies. This budget is not a hack-back, it is still a very strong budget. And as part of doing that, we are checking the efficiencies of each transfer so that we aren’t paying, for want of a better word, dead money.”
It's up to the manager on how he spends the budget not Baldwin. Up to now parky has earned and created far more monies than he has spent. He has also achieved all the boards targets and more, so really Baldwin and the board should allow parky to spend how he sees fit with no interference. Telling parky that some players that have not played etc that in his eyes are a waste of resources is an insult to parky
Putting it bluntly, I know Jack Schitt about the finances of the football club. I do not know how much the players earn. I do not know what bonuses they are on. I do not know what percentage of the overall budget the £500,000 represents. Therefore, I reserve my opinion because otherwise I would be making ill-informed comments out of my rear end.
McLean's earnings were publicised. The club also informed us that Davies had a clause stating he had to be the highest earner. With some basic maths, lonnie, it is easy to get very close to their combined earnings. That alone makes a big hole in the budget. Yeates came from a higher division. Hanson, Darby, McArdle resigned on improved contracts. With even the most conservative guess for the wages of these four, you can't get a squad of nineteen or twenty players at our level, for a total budget of £1.5M. Is that any easier to digest, lonnie?
You better have a word with those who think you can then, btw look sharp the season starts soon.
Hi Nickloza. I'm being a dumbass. I don't quite follow who the "you" person is! And those who think you can then? Think you can what?
[quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Halifax Bantam[/bold] wrote: Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that[/p][/quote]You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league. Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3 Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.[/p][/quote]You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.[/p][/quote]Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.[/p][/quote]Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really.[/p][/quote]We have a mid table budget and that is a fact! !! That was straight from Mark Lawns mouth. So where does that leave us competing? We will be punching above our weight if top 6. Don't think the club can afford to go up competing is just words. Board are happy to stay where we are[/p][/quote]David Badwins exact words Macca The budget cuts An ongoing talking point all summer has been the news that the playing budget has been cut to the tune of £500k – a considerable sum of money, with last season’s wage bill rumoured to be just over £2 million. David stressed that he believes the revised budget is nevertheless competitive, and highlighted a wide-ranging focus on delivering greater efficiency in how the club operates, which includes the playing staff. “There has been a lot of talk about the budget being hacked back by half a million. The bottom line is that, over the last few years, we have had players in the building that have not come in on cheap wages, and yet their game contribution to the team has been sporadic to say the least. “I recently did an article in the T&A about efficiencies. This budget is not a hack-back, it is still a very strong budget. And as part of doing that, we are checking the efficiencies of each transfer so that we aren’t paying, for want of a better word, dead money.”[/p][/quote]It's up to the manager on how he spends the budget not Baldwin. Up to now parky has earned and created far more monies than he has spent. He has also achieved all the boards targets and more, so really Baldwin and the board should allow parky to spend how he sees fit with no interference. Telling parky that some players that have not played etc that in his eyes are a waste of resources is an insult to parky[/p][/quote]Putting it bluntly, I know Jack Schitt about the finances of the football club. I do not know how much the players earn. I do not know what bonuses they are on. I do not know what percentage of the overall budget the £500,000 represents. Therefore, I reserve my opinion because otherwise I would be making ill-informed comments out of my rear end.[/p][/quote]McLean's earnings were publicised. The club also informed us that Davies had a clause stating he had to be the highest earner. With some basic maths, lonnie, it is easy to get very close to their combined earnings. That alone makes a big hole in the budget. Yeates came from a higher division. Hanson, Darby, McArdle resigned on improved contracts. With even the most conservative guess for the wages of these four, you can't get a squad of nineteen or twenty players at our level, for a total budget of £1.5M. Is that any easier to digest, lonnie?[/p][/quote]You better have a word with those who think you can then, btw look sharp the season starts soon.[/p][/quote]Hi Nickloza. I'm being a dumbass. I don't quite follow who the "you" person is! And those who think you can then? Think you can what? Michael Clayton
  • Score: 1

4:57pm Fri 1 Aug 14

lonniejockstrap says...

Pablo wrote:
Michael Clayton wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Halifax Bantam wrote: Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that
You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league. Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3 Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.
You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.
Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.
Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really.
We have a mid table budget and that is a fact! !! That was straight from Mark Lawns mouth. So where does that leave us competing? We will be punching above our weight if top 6. Don't think the club can afford to go up competing is just words. Board are happy to stay where we are
David Badwins exact words Macca The budget cuts An ongoing talking point all summer has been the news that the playing budget has been cut to the tune of £500k – a considerable sum of money, with last season’s wage bill rumoured to be just over £2 million. David stressed that he believes the revised budget is nevertheless competitive, and highlighted a wide-ranging focus on delivering greater efficiency in how the club operates, which includes the playing staff. “There has been a lot of talk about the budget being hacked back by half a million. The bottom line is that, over the last few years, we have had players in the building that have not come in on cheap wages, and yet their game contribution to the team has been sporadic to say the least. “I recently did an article in the T&A about efficiencies. This budget is not a hack-back, it is still a very strong budget. And as part of doing that, we are checking the efficiencies of each transfer so that we aren’t paying, for want of a better word, dead money.”
It's up to the manager on how he spends the budget not Baldwin. Up to now parky has earned and created far more monies than he has spent. He has also achieved all the boards targets and more, so really Baldwin and the board should allow parky to spend how he sees fit with no interference. Telling parky that some players that have not played etc that in his eyes are a waste of resources is an insult to parky
Putting it bluntly, I know Jack Schitt about the finances of the football club.

I do not know how much the players earn.

I do not know what bonuses they are on.

I do not know what percentage of the overall budget the £500,000 represents.

Therefore, I reserve my opinion because otherwise I would be making ill-informed comments out of my rear end.
McLean's earnings were publicised. The club also informed us that Davies had a clause stating he had to be the highest earner. With some basic maths, lonnie, it is easy to get very close to their combined earnings. That alone makes a big hole in the budget.

Yeates came from a higher division. Hanson, Darby, McArdle resigned on improved contracts. With even the most conservative guess for the wages of these four, you can't get a squad of nineteen or twenty players at our level, for a total budget of £1.5M.

Is that any easier to digest, lonnie?
Hello Pablo, if you are as mistaken in your belief that I posted under the name 'Michael Clayton' then just how unreliable is the rest of your contributions to this site?

Other than to acknowledge Nickloza posting a complementary comment about me and a response to Shaun -who also claimed I was posting under some other name which I think was 'Michael Clayton' as well- I have not posted on here since becoming annoyed by waynus posting lies about me. This resulted in me taking out my frustration on macca69 -for which I apologised.

Why, as an anonymous poster, I should have become annoyed?
I don't know. What I do know is that posters on here DO deliberately mislead readers in order to, I assume, 'win' their argument and convince others to support their agenda rather than help towards trying to understand why decisions based on real world risk taking are completely different to 'risk taking' in latest edition of 'Football Manager'.

Very few posters provide evidence in support of their often nasty attacks on those people running the Club and who have a lot more invested in Bradford City than a cheap season ticket.

Just out of my own personal interest, and to give you a chance to claim back some credibility, could you reference where McLean's wages were 'publicised' AND just jot down the 'basic maths' you did showing the individual wages the players you named are on.

You should be a bit clearer on the difference between me and 'Michael Clayton' now Pablo -'Lonnie' is the one who takes 20 words to say what MC says in 2.
[quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Halifax Bantam[/bold] wrote: Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that[/p][/quote]You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league. Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3 Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.[/p][/quote]You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.[/p][/quote]Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.[/p][/quote]Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really.[/p][/quote]We have a mid table budget and that is a fact! !! That was straight from Mark Lawns mouth. So where does that leave us competing? We will be punching above our weight if top 6. Don't think the club can afford to go up competing is just words. Board are happy to stay where we are[/p][/quote]David Badwins exact words Macca The budget cuts An ongoing talking point all summer has been the news that the playing budget has been cut to the tune of £500k – a considerable sum of money, with last season’s wage bill rumoured to be just over £2 million. David stressed that he believes the revised budget is nevertheless competitive, and highlighted a wide-ranging focus on delivering greater efficiency in how the club operates, which includes the playing staff. “There has been a lot of talk about the budget being hacked back by half a million. The bottom line is that, over the last few years, we have had players in the building that have not come in on cheap wages, and yet their game contribution to the team has been sporadic to say the least. “I recently did an article in the T&A about efficiencies. This budget is not a hack-back, it is still a very strong budget. And as part of doing that, we are checking the efficiencies of each transfer so that we aren’t paying, for want of a better word, dead money.”[/p][/quote]It's up to the manager on how he spends the budget not Baldwin. Up to now parky has earned and created far more monies than he has spent. He has also achieved all the boards targets and more, so really Baldwin and the board should allow parky to spend how he sees fit with no interference. Telling parky that some players that have not played etc that in his eyes are a waste of resources is an insult to parky[/p][/quote]Putting it bluntly, I know Jack Schitt about the finances of the football club. I do not know how much the players earn. I do not know what bonuses they are on. I do not know what percentage of the overall budget the £500,000 represents. Therefore, I reserve my opinion because otherwise I would be making ill-informed comments out of my rear end.[/p][/quote]McLean's earnings were publicised. The club also informed us that Davies had a clause stating he had to be the highest earner. With some basic maths, lonnie, it is easy to get very close to their combined earnings. That alone makes a big hole in the budget. Yeates came from a higher division. Hanson, Darby, McArdle resigned on improved contracts. With even the most conservative guess for the wages of these four, you can't get a squad of nineteen or twenty players at our level, for a total budget of £1.5M. Is that any easier to digest, lonnie?[/p][/quote]Hello Pablo, if you are as mistaken in your belief that I posted under the name 'Michael Clayton' then just how unreliable is the rest of your contributions to this site? Other than to acknowledge Nickloza posting a complementary comment about me and a response to Shaun -who also claimed I was posting under some other name which I think was 'Michael Clayton' as well- I have not posted on here since becoming annoyed by waynus posting lies about me. This resulted in me taking out my frustration on macca69 -for which I apologised. Why, as an anonymous poster, I should have become annoyed? I don't know. What I do know is that posters on here DO deliberately mislead readers in order to, I assume, 'win' their argument and convince others to support their agenda rather than help towards trying to understand why decisions based on real world risk taking are completely different to 'risk taking' in latest edition of 'Football Manager'. Very few posters provide evidence in support of their often nasty attacks on those people running the Club and who have a lot more invested in Bradford City than a cheap season ticket. Just out of my own personal interest, and to give you a chance to claim back some credibility, could you reference where McLean's wages were 'publicised' AND just jot down the 'basic maths' you did showing the individual wages the players you named are on. You should be a bit clearer on the difference between me and 'Michael Clayton' now Pablo -'Lonnie' is the one who takes 20 words to say what MC says in 2. lonniejockstrap
  • Score: 0

5:02pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Nickloza says...

Michael Clayton wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Pablo wrote:
Michael Clayton wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Halifax Bantam wrote: Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that
You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league. Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3 Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.
You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.
Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.
Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really.
We have a mid table budget and that is a fact! !! That was straight from Mark Lawns mouth. So where does that leave us competing? We will be punching above our weight if top 6. Don't think the club can afford to go up competing is just words. Board are happy to stay where we are
David Badwins exact words Macca The budget cuts An ongoing talking point all summer has been the news that the playing budget has been cut to the tune of £500k – a considerable sum of money, with last season’s wage bill rumoured to be just over £2 million. David stressed that he believes the revised budget is nevertheless competitive, and highlighted a wide-ranging focus on delivering greater efficiency in how the club operates, which includes the playing staff. “There has been a lot of talk about the budget being hacked back by half a million. The bottom line is that, over the last few years, we have had players in the building that have not come in on cheap wages, and yet their game contribution to the team has been sporadic to say the least. “I recently did an article in the T&A about efficiencies. This budget is not a hack-back, it is still a very strong budget. And as part of doing that, we are checking the efficiencies of each transfer so that we aren’t paying, for want of a better word, dead money.”
It's up to the manager on how he spends the budget not Baldwin. Up to now parky has earned and created far more monies than he has spent. He has also achieved all the boards targets and more, so really Baldwin and the board should allow parky to spend how he sees fit with no interference. Telling parky that some players that have not played etc that in his eyes are a waste of resources is an insult to parky
Putting it bluntly, I know Jack Schitt about the finances of the football club. I do not know how much the players earn. I do not know what bonuses they are on. I do not know what percentage of the overall budget the £500,000 represents. Therefore, I reserve my opinion because otherwise I would be making ill-informed comments out of my rear end.
McLean's earnings were publicised. The club also informed us that Davies had a clause stating he had to be the highest earner. With some basic maths, lonnie, it is easy to get very close to their combined earnings. That alone makes a big hole in the budget. Yeates came from a higher division. Hanson, Darby, McArdle resigned on improved contracts. With even the most conservative guess for the wages of these four, you can't get a squad of nineteen or twenty players at our level, for a total budget of £1.5M. Is that any easier to digest, lonnie?
You better have a word with those who think you can then, btw look sharp the season starts soon.
Hi Nickloza. I'm being a dumbass. I don't quite follow who the "you" person is! And those who think you can then? Think you can what?
He said Can't sign 19-20 players etc for 1.5 mill, implying that is what the club are trying to do, based on his maths. So sarcasticl , You (Pablo) better have a word with those( The club) He seems to think that's what is happening lol. Hope I made that clear, now I'm confused lol.
[quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Halifax Bantam[/bold] wrote: Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that[/p][/quote]You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league. Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3 Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.[/p][/quote]You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.[/p][/quote]Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.[/p][/quote]Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really.[/p][/quote]We have a mid table budget and that is a fact! !! That was straight from Mark Lawns mouth. So where does that leave us competing? We will be punching above our weight if top 6. Don't think the club can afford to go up competing is just words. Board are happy to stay where we are[/p][/quote]David Badwins exact words Macca The budget cuts An ongoing talking point all summer has been the news that the playing budget has been cut to the tune of £500k – a considerable sum of money, with last season’s wage bill rumoured to be just over £2 million. David stressed that he believes the revised budget is nevertheless competitive, and highlighted a wide-ranging focus on delivering greater efficiency in how the club operates, which includes the playing staff. “There has been a lot of talk about the budget being hacked back by half a million. The bottom line is that, over the last few years, we have had players in the building that have not come in on cheap wages, and yet their game contribution to the team has been sporadic to say the least. “I recently did an article in the T&A about efficiencies. This budget is not a hack-back, it is still a very strong budget. And as part of doing that, we are checking the efficiencies of each transfer so that we aren’t paying, for want of a better word, dead money.”[/p][/quote]It's up to the manager on how he spends the budget not Baldwin. Up to now parky has earned and created far more monies than he has spent. He has also achieved all the boards targets and more, so really Baldwin and the board should allow parky to spend how he sees fit with no interference. Telling parky that some players that have not played etc that in his eyes are a waste of resources is an insult to parky[/p][/quote]Putting it bluntly, I know Jack Schitt about the finances of the football club. I do not know how much the players earn. I do not know what bonuses they are on. I do not know what percentage of the overall budget the £500,000 represents. Therefore, I reserve my opinion because otherwise I would be making ill-informed comments out of my rear end.[/p][/quote]McLean's earnings were publicised. The club also informed us that Davies had a clause stating he had to be the highest earner. With some basic maths, lonnie, it is easy to get very close to their combined earnings. That alone makes a big hole in the budget. Yeates came from a higher division. Hanson, Darby, McArdle resigned on improved contracts. With even the most conservative guess for the wages of these four, you can't get a squad of nineteen or twenty players at our level, for a total budget of £1.5M. Is that any easier to digest, lonnie?[/p][/quote]You better have a word with those who think you can then, btw look sharp the season starts soon.[/p][/quote]Hi Nickloza. I'm being a dumbass. I don't quite follow who the "you" person is! And those who think you can then? Think you can what?[/p][/quote]He said Can't sign 19-20 players etc for 1.5 mill, implying that is what the club are trying to do, based on his maths. So sarcasticl , You (Pablo) better have a word with those( The club) He seems to think that's what is happening lol. Hope I made that clear, now I'm confused lol. Nickloza
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5:14pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Michael Clayton says...

Nickloza wrote:
Michael Clayton wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Pablo wrote:
Michael Clayton wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Halifax Bantam wrote: Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that
You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league. Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3 Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.
You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.
Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.
Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really.
We have a mid table budget and that is a fact! !! That was straight from Mark Lawns mouth. So where does that leave us competing? We will be punching above our weight if top 6. Don't think the club can afford to go up competing is just words. Board are happy to stay where we are
David Badwins exact words Macca The budget cuts An ongoing talking point all summer has been the news that the playing budget has been cut to the tune of £500k – a considerable sum of money, with last season’s wage bill rumoured to be just over £2 million. David stressed that he believes the revised budget is nevertheless competitive, and highlighted a wide-ranging focus on delivering greater efficiency in how the club operates, which includes the playing staff. “There has been a lot of talk about the budget being hacked back by half a million. The bottom line is that, over the last few years, we have had players in the building that have not come in on cheap wages, and yet their game contribution to the team has been sporadic to say the least. “I recently did an article in the T&A about efficiencies. This budget is not a hack-back, it is still a very strong budget. And as part of doing that, we are checking the efficiencies of each transfer so that we aren’t paying, for want of a better word, dead money.”
It's up to the manager on how he spends the budget not Baldwin. Up to now parky has earned and created far more monies than he has spent. He has also achieved all the boards targets and more, so really Baldwin and the board should allow parky to spend how he sees fit with no interference. Telling parky that some players that have not played etc that in his eyes are a waste of resources is an insult to parky
Putting it bluntly, I know Jack Schitt about the finances of the football club. I do not know how much the players earn. I do not know what bonuses they are on. I do not know what percentage of the overall budget the £500,000 represents. Therefore, I reserve my opinion because otherwise I would be making ill-informed comments out of my rear end.
McLean's earnings were publicised. The club also informed us that Davies had a clause stating he had to be the highest earner. With some basic maths, lonnie, it is easy to get very close to their combined earnings. That alone makes a big hole in the budget. Yeates came from a higher division. Hanson, Darby, McArdle resigned on improved contracts. With even the most conservative guess for the wages of these four, you can't get a squad of nineteen or twenty players at our level, for a total budget of £1.5M. Is that any easier to digest, lonnie?
You better have a word with those who think you can then, btw look sharp the season starts soon.
Hi Nickloza. I'm being a dumbass. I don't quite follow who the "you" person is! And those who think you can then? Think you can what?
He said Can't sign 19-20 players etc for 1.5 mill, implying that is what the club are trying to do, based on his maths. So sarcasticl , You (Pablo) better have a word with those( The club) He seems to think that's what is happening lol. Hope I made that clear, now I'm confused lol.
Thanks. I am knackered and my concentration is gone.
[quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Halifax Bantam[/bold] wrote: Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that[/p][/quote]You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league. Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3 Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.[/p][/quote]You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.[/p][/quote]Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.[/p][/quote]Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really.[/p][/quote]We have a mid table budget and that is a fact! !! That was straight from Mark Lawns mouth. So where does that leave us competing? We will be punching above our weight if top 6. Don't think the club can afford to go up competing is just words. Board are happy to stay where we are[/p][/quote]David Badwins exact words Macca The budget cuts An ongoing talking point all summer has been the news that the playing budget has been cut to the tune of £500k – a considerable sum of money, with last season’s wage bill rumoured to be just over £2 million. David stressed that he believes the revised budget is nevertheless competitive, and highlighted a wide-ranging focus on delivering greater efficiency in how the club operates, which includes the playing staff. “There has been a lot of talk about the budget being hacked back by half a million. The bottom line is that, over the last few years, we have had players in the building that have not come in on cheap wages, and yet their game contribution to the team has been sporadic to say the least. “I recently did an article in the T&A about efficiencies. This budget is not a hack-back, it is still a very strong budget. And as part of doing that, we are checking the efficiencies of each transfer so that we aren’t paying, for want of a better word, dead money.”[/p][/quote]It's up to the manager on how he spends the budget not Baldwin. Up to now parky has earned and created far more monies than he has spent. He has also achieved all the boards targets and more, so really Baldwin and the board should allow parky to spend how he sees fit with no interference. Telling parky that some players that have not played etc that in his eyes are a waste of resources is an insult to parky[/p][/quote]Putting it bluntly, I know Jack Schitt about the finances of the football club. I do not know how much the players earn. I do not know what bonuses they are on. I do not know what percentage of the overall budget the £500,000 represents. Therefore, I reserve my opinion because otherwise I would be making ill-informed comments out of my rear end.[/p][/quote]McLean's earnings were publicised. The club also informed us that Davies had a clause stating he had to be the highest earner. With some basic maths, lonnie, it is easy to get very close to their combined earnings. That alone makes a big hole in the budget. Yeates came from a higher division. Hanson, Darby, McArdle resigned on improved contracts. With even the most conservative guess for the wages of these four, you can't get a squad of nineteen or twenty players at our level, for a total budget of £1.5M. Is that any easier to digest, lonnie?[/p][/quote]You better have a word with those who think you can then, btw look sharp the season starts soon.[/p][/quote]Hi Nickloza. I'm being a dumbass. I don't quite follow who the "you" person is! And those who think you can then? Think you can what?[/p][/quote]He said Can't sign 19-20 players etc for 1.5 mill, implying that is what the club are trying to do, based on his maths. So sarcasticl , You (Pablo) better have a word with those( The club) He seems to think that's what is happening lol. Hope I made that clear, now I'm confused lol.[/p][/quote]Thanks. I am knackered and my concentration is gone. Michael Clayton
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5:17pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Pablo says...

Nickloza wrote:
Pablo wrote:
Michael Clayton wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Halifax Bantam wrote: Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that
You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league. Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3 Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.
You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.
Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.
Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really.
We have a mid table budget and that is a fact! !! That was straight from Mark Lawns mouth. So where does that leave us competing? We will be punching above our weight if top 6. Don't think the club can afford to go up competing is just words. Board are happy to stay where we are
David Badwins exact words Macca The budget cuts An ongoing talking point all summer has been the news that the playing budget has been cut to the tune of £500k – a considerable sum of money, with last season’s wage bill rumoured to be just over £2 million. David stressed that he believes the revised budget is nevertheless competitive, and highlighted a wide-ranging focus on delivering greater efficiency in how the club operates, which includes the playing staff. “There has been a lot of talk about the budget being hacked back by half a million. The bottom line is that, over the last few years, we have had players in the building that have not come in on cheap wages, and yet their game contribution to the team has been sporadic to say the least. “I recently did an article in the T&A about efficiencies. This budget is not a hack-back, it is still a very strong budget. And as part of doing that, we are checking the efficiencies of each transfer so that we aren’t paying, for want of a better word, dead money.”
It's up to the manager on how he spends the budget not Baldwin. Up to now parky has earned and created far more monies than he has spent. He has also achieved all the boards targets and more, so really Baldwin and the board should allow parky to spend how he sees fit with no interference. Telling parky that some players that have not played etc that in his eyes are a waste of resources is an insult to parky
Putting it bluntly, I know Jack Schitt about the finances of the football club.

I do not know how much the players earn.

I do not know what bonuses they are on.

I do not know what percentage of the overall budget the £500,000 represents.

Therefore, I reserve my opinion because otherwise I would be making ill-informed comments out of my rear end.
McLean's earnings were publicised. The club also informed us that Davies had a clause stating he had to be the highest earner. With some basic maths, lonnie, it is easy to get very close to their combined earnings. That alone makes a big hole in the budget.

Yeates came from a higher division. Hanson, Darby, McArdle resigned on improved contracts. With even the most conservative guess for the wages of these four, you can't get a squad of nineteen or twenty players at our level, for a total budget of £1.5M.

Is that any easier to digest, lonnie?
Pablo, where were McLeans wages made public by the club? I have searched everywhere and can't find it! As per, basing everything on rumour!
Shown yourself up again!

I suggest you re-read my post slowly and try and find out where I stated that the McLean wages figure was publicised by the club?

Before diving in like a bull at a gate, please try a digest what's written an then I'll treat your posts seriously.
[quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Halifax Bantam[/bold] wrote: Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that[/p][/quote]You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league. Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3 Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.[/p][/quote]You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.[/p][/quote]Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.[/p][/quote]Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really.[/p][/quote]We have a mid table budget and that is a fact! !! That was straight from Mark Lawns mouth. So where does that leave us competing? We will be punching above our weight if top 6. Don't think the club can afford to go up competing is just words. Board are happy to stay where we are[/p][/quote]David Badwins exact words Macca The budget cuts An ongoing talking point all summer has been the news that the playing budget has been cut to the tune of £500k – a considerable sum of money, with last season’s wage bill rumoured to be just over £2 million. David stressed that he believes the revised budget is nevertheless competitive, and highlighted a wide-ranging focus on delivering greater efficiency in how the club operates, which includes the playing staff. “There has been a lot of talk about the budget being hacked back by half a million. The bottom line is that, over the last few years, we have had players in the building that have not come in on cheap wages, and yet their game contribution to the team has been sporadic to say the least. “I recently did an article in the T&A about efficiencies. This budget is not a hack-back, it is still a very strong budget. And as part of doing that, we are checking the efficiencies of each transfer so that we aren’t paying, for want of a better word, dead money.”[/p][/quote]It's up to the manager on how he spends the budget not Baldwin. Up to now parky has earned and created far more monies than he has spent. He has also achieved all the boards targets and more, so really Baldwin and the board should allow parky to spend how he sees fit with no interference. Telling parky that some players that have not played etc that in his eyes are a waste of resources is an insult to parky[/p][/quote]Putting it bluntly, I know Jack Schitt about the finances of the football club. I do not know how much the players earn. I do not know what bonuses they are on. I do not know what percentage of the overall budget the £500,000 represents. Therefore, I reserve my opinion because otherwise I would be making ill-informed comments out of my rear end.[/p][/quote]McLean's earnings were publicised. The club also informed us that Davies had a clause stating he had to be the highest earner. With some basic maths, lonnie, it is easy to get very close to their combined earnings. That alone makes a big hole in the budget. Yeates came from a higher division. Hanson, Darby, McArdle resigned on improved contracts. With even the most conservative guess for the wages of these four, you can't get a squad of nineteen or twenty players at our level, for a total budget of £1.5M. Is that any easier to digest, lonnie?[/p][/quote]Pablo, where were McLeans wages made public by the club? I have searched everywhere and can't find it! As per, basing everything on rumour![/p][/quote]Shown yourself up again! I suggest you re-read my post slowly and try and find out where I stated that the McLean wages figure was publicised by the club? Before diving in like a bull at a gate, please try a digest what's written an then I'll treat your posts seriously. Pablo
  • Score: -2

5:21pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Nickloza says...

Pablo wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Pablo wrote:
Michael Clayton wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Halifax Bantam wrote: Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that
You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league. Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3 Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.
You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.
Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.
Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really.
We have a mid table budget and that is a fact! !! That was straight from Mark Lawns mouth. So where does that leave us competing? We will be punching above our weight if top 6. Don't think the club can afford to go up competing is just words. Board are happy to stay where we are
David Badwins exact words Macca The budget cuts An ongoing talking point all summer has been the news that the playing budget has been cut to the tune of £500k – a considerable sum of money, with last season’s wage bill rumoured to be just over £2 million. David stressed that he believes the revised budget is nevertheless competitive, and highlighted a wide-ranging focus on delivering greater efficiency in how the club operates, which includes the playing staff. “There has been a lot of talk about the budget being hacked back by half a million. The bottom line is that, over the last few years, we have had players in the building that have not come in on cheap wages, and yet their game contribution to the team has been sporadic to say the least. “I recently did an article in the T&A about efficiencies. This budget is not a hack-back, it is still a very strong budget. And as part of doing that, we are checking the efficiencies of each transfer so that we aren’t paying, for want of a better word, dead money.”
It's up to the manager on how he spends the budget not Baldwin. Up to now parky has earned and created far more monies than he has spent. He has also achieved all the boards targets and more, so really Baldwin and the board should allow parky to spend how he sees fit with no interference. Telling parky that some players that have not played etc that in his eyes are a waste of resources is an insult to parky
Putting it bluntly, I know Jack Schitt about the finances of the football club.

I do not know how much the players earn.

I do not know what bonuses they are on.

I do not know what percentage of the overall budget the £500,000 represents.

Therefore, I reserve my opinion because otherwise I would be making ill-informed comments out of my rear end.
McLean's earnings were publicised. The club also informed us that Davies had a clause stating he had to be the highest earner. With some basic maths, lonnie, it is easy to get very close to their combined earnings. That alone makes a big hole in the budget.

Yeates came from a higher division. Hanson, Darby, McArdle resigned on improved contracts. With even the most conservative guess for the wages of these four, you can't get a squad of nineteen or twenty players at our level, for a total budget of £1.5M.

Is that any easier to digest, lonnie?
Pablo, where were McLeans wages made public by the club? I have searched everywhere and can't find it! As per, basing everything on rumour!
Shown yourself up again!

I suggest you re-read my post slowly and try and find out where I stated that the McLean wages figure was publicised by the club?

Before diving in like a bull at a gate, please try a digest what's written an then I'll treat your posts seriously.
Not really have you? I asked you where it was made public by the club! As they are the ones who know, I give up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Halifax Bantam[/bold] wrote: Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that[/p][/quote]You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league. Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3 Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.[/p][/quote]You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.[/p][/quote]Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.[/p][/quote]Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really.[/p][/quote]We have a mid table budget and that is a fact! !! That was straight from Mark Lawns mouth. So where does that leave us competing? We will be punching above our weight if top 6. Don't think the club can afford to go up competing is just words. Board are happy to stay where we are[/p][/quote]David Badwins exact words Macca The budget cuts An ongoing talking point all summer has been the news that the playing budget has been cut to the tune of £500k – a considerable sum of money, with last season’s wage bill rumoured to be just over £2 million. David stressed that he believes the revised budget is nevertheless competitive, and highlighted a wide-ranging focus on delivering greater efficiency in how the club operates, which includes the playing staff. “There has been a lot of talk about the budget being hacked back by half a million. The bottom line is that, over the last few years, we have had players in the building that have not come in on cheap wages, and yet their game contribution to the team has been sporadic to say the least. “I recently did an article in the T&A about efficiencies. This budget is not a hack-back, it is still a very strong budget. And as part of doing that, we are checking the efficiencies of each transfer so that we aren’t paying, for want of a better word, dead money.”[/p][/quote]It's up to the manager on how he spends the budget not Baldwin. Up to now parky has earned and created far more monies than he has spent. He has also achieved all the boards targets and more, so really Baldwin and the board should allow parky to spend how he sees fit with no interference. Telling parky that some players that have not played etc that in his eyes are a waste of resources is an insult to parky[/p][/quote]Putting it bluntly, I know Jack Schitt about the finances of the football club. I do not know how much the players earn. I do not know what bonuses they are on. I do not know what percentage of the overall budget the £500,000 represents. Therefore, I reserve my opinion because otherwise I would be making ill-informed comments out of my rear end.[/p][/quote]McLean's earnings were publicised. The club also informed us that Davies had a clause stating he had to be the highest earner. With some basic maths, lonnie, it is easy to get very close to their combined earnings. That alone makes a big hole in the budget. Yeates came from a higher division. Hanson, Darby, McArdle resigned on improved contracts. With even the most conservative guess for the wages of these four, you can't get a squad of nineteen or twenty players at our level, for a total budget of £1.5M. Is that any easier to digest, lonnie?[/p][/quote]Pablo, where were McLeans wages made public by the club? I have searched everywhere and can't find it! As per, basing everything on rumour![/p][/quote]Shown yourself up again! I suggest you re-read my post slowly and try and find out where I stated that the McLean wages figure was publicised by the club? Before diving in like a bull at a gate, please try a digest what's written an then I'll treat your posts seriously.[/p][/quote]Not really have you? I asked you where it was made public by the club! As they are the ones who know, I give up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nickloza
  • Score: 2

5:24pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Nickloza says...

Nickloza wrote:
Pablo wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Pablo wrote:
Michael Clayton wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Halifax Bantam wrote: Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that
You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league. Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3 Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.
You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.
Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.
Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really.
We have a mid table budget and that is a fact! !! That was straight from Mark Lawns mouth. So where does that leave us competing? We will be punching above our weight if top 6. Don't think the club can afford to go up competing is just words. Board are happy to stay where we are
David Badwins exact words Macca The budget cuts An ongoing talking point all summer has been the news that the playing budget has been cut to the tune of £500k – a considerable sum of money, with last season’s wage bill rumoured to be just over £2 million. David stressed that he believes the revised budget is nevertheless competitive, and highlighted a wide-ranging focus on delivering greater efficiency in how the club operates, which includes the playing staff. “There has been a lot of talk about the budget being hacked back by half a million. The bottom line is that, over the last few years, we have had players in the building that have not come in on cheap wages, and yet their game contribution to the team has been sporadic to say the least. “I recently did an article in the T&A about efficiencies. This budget is not a hack-back, it is still a very strong budget. And as part of doing that, we are checking the efficiencies of each transfer so that we aren’t paying, for want of a better word, dead money.”
It's up to the manager on how he spends the budget not Baldwin. Up to now parky has earned and created far more monies than he has spent. He has also achieved all the boards targets and more, so really Baldwin and the board should allow parky to spend how he sees fit with no interference. Telling parky that some players that have not played etc that in his eyes are a waste of resources is an insult to parky
Putting it bluntly, I know Jack Schitt about the finances of the football club.

I do not know how much the players earn.

I do not know what bonuses they are on.

I do not know what percentage of the overall budget the £500,000 represents.

Therefore, I reserve my opinion because otherwise I would be making ill-informed comments out of my rear end.
McLean's earnings were publicised. The club also informed us that Davies had a clause stating he had to be the highest earner. With some basic maths, lonnie, it is easy to get very close to their combined earnings. That alone makes a big hole in the budget.

Yeates came from a higher division. Hanson, Darby, McArdle resigned on improved contracts. With even the most conservative guess for the wages of these four, you can't get a squad of nineteen or twenty players at our level, for a total budget of £1.5M.

Is that any easier to digest, lonnie?
Pablo, where were McLeans wages made public by the club? I have searched everywhere and can't find it! As per, basing everything on rumour!
Shown yourself up again!

I suggest you re-read my post slowly and try and find out where I stated that the McLean wages figure was publicised by the club?

Before diving in like a bull at a gate, please try a digest what's written an then I'll treat your posts seriously.
Not really have you? I asked you where it was made public by the club! As they are the ones who know, I give up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pablo you are just a rumour merchant, you shouldn't take yourself seriously let alone anyone else. There's a lesson for the learning, I suggest you do learn from it.
[quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Halifax Bantam[/bold] wrote: Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that[/p][/quote]You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league. Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3 Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.[/p][/quote]You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.[/p][/quote]Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.[/p][/quote]Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really.[/p][/quote]We have a mid table budget and that is a fact! !! That was straight from Mark Lawns mouth. So where does that leave us competing? We will be punching above our weight if top 6. Don't think the club can afford to go up competing is just words. Board are happy to stay where we are[/p][/quote]David Badwins exact words Macca The budget cuts An ongoing talking point all summer has been the news that the playing budget has been cut to the tune of £500k – a considerable sum of money, with last season’s wage bill rumoured to be just over £2 million. David stressed that he believes the revised budget is nevertheless competitive, and highlighted a wide-ranging focus on delivering greater efficiency in how the club operates, which includes the playing staff. “There has been a lot of talk about the budget being hacked back by half a million. The bottom line is that, over the last few years, we have had players in the building that have not come in on cheap wages, and yet their game contribution to the team has been sporadic to say the least. “I recently did an article in the T&A about efficiencies. This budget is not a hack-back, it is still a very strong budget. And as part of doing that, we are checking the efficiencies of each transfer so that we aren’t paying, for want of a better word, dead money.”[/p][/quote]It's up to the manager on how he spends the budget not Baldwin. Up to now parky has earned and created far more monies than he has spent. He has also achieved all the boards targets and more, so really Baldwin and the board should allow parky to spend how he sees fit with no interference. Telling parky that some players that have not played etc that in his eyes are a waste of resources is an insult to parky[/p][/quote]Putting it bluntly, I know Jack Schitt about the finances of the football club. I do not know how much the players earn. I do not know what bonuses they are on. I do not know what percentage of the overall budget the £500,000 represents. Therefore, I reserve my opinion because otherwise I would be making ill-informed comments out of my rear end.[/p][/quote]McLean's earnings were publicised. The club also informed us that Davies had a clause stating he had to be the highest earner. With some basic maths, lonnie, it is easy to get very close to their combined earnings. That alone makes a big hole in the budget. Yeates came from a higher division. Hanson, Darby, McArdle resigned on improved contracts. With even the most conservative guess for the wages of these four, you can't get a squad of nineteen or twenty players at our level, for a total budget of £1.5M. Is that any easier to digest, lonnie?[/p][/quote]Pablo, where were McLeans wages made public by the club? I have searched everywhere and can't find it! As per, basing everything on rumour![/p][/quote]Shown yourself up again! I suggest you re-read my post slowly and try and find out where I stated that the McLean wages figure was publicised by the club? Before diving in like a bull at a gate, please try a digest what's written an then I'll treat your posts seriously.[/p][/quote]Not really have you? I asked you where it was made public by the club! As they are the ones who know, I give up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Pablo you are just a rumour merchant, you shouldn't take yourself seriously let alone anyone else. There's a lesson for the learning, I suggest you do learn from it. Nickloza
  • Score: 2

5:31pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Nickloza says...

“News told, rumours heard, truth implied, facts buried.”
Just for Pablo
“News told, rumours heard, truth implied, facts buried.” Just for Pablo Nickloza
  • Score: 2

6:03pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Pablo says...

Nickloza wrote:
Pablo wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Pablo wrote:
Michael Clayton wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Halifax Bantam wrote: Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that
You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league. Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3 Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.
You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.
Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.
Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really.
We have a mid table budget and that is a fact! !! That was straight from Mark Lawns mouth. So where does that leave us competing? We will be punching above our weight if top 6. Don't think the club can afford to go up competing is just words. Board are happy to stay where we are
David Badwins exact words Macca The budget cuts An ongoing talking point all summer has been the news that the playing budget has been cut to the tune of £500k – a considerable sum of money, with last season’s wage bill rumoured to be just over £2 million. David stressed that he believes the revised budget is nevertheless competitive, and highlighted a wide-ranging focus on delivering greater efficiency in how the club operates, which includes the playing staff. “There has been a lot of talk about the budget being hacked back by half a million. The bottom line is that, over the last few years, we have had players in the building that have not come in on cheap wages, and yet their game contribution to the team has been sporadic to say the least. “I recently did an article in the T&A about efficiencies. This budget is not a hack-back, it is still a very strong budget. And as part of doing that, we are checking the efficiencies of each transfer so that we aren’t paying, for want of a better word, dead money.”
It's up to the manager on how he spends the budget not Baldwin. Up to now parky has earned and created far more monies than he has spent. He has also achieved all the boards targets and more, so really Baldwin and the board should allow parky to spend how he sees fit with no interference. Telling parky that some players that have not played etc that in his eyes are a waste of resources is an insult to parky
Putting it bluntly, I know Jack Schitt about the finances of the football club.

I do not know how much the players earn.

I do not know what bonuses they are on.

I do not know what percentage of the overall budget the £500,000 represents.

Therefore, I reserve my opinion because otherwise I would be making ill-informed comments out of my rear end.
McLean's earnings were publicised. The club also informed us that Davies had a clause stating he had to be the highest earner. With some basic maths, lonnie, it is easy to get very close to their combined earnings. That alone makes a big hole in the budget.

Yeates came from a higher division. Hanson, Darby, McArdle resigned on improved contracts. With even the most conservative guess for the wages of these four, you can't get a squad of nineteen or twenty players at our level, for a total budget of £1.5M.

Is that any easier to digest, lonnie?
Pablo, where were McLeans wages made public by the club? I have searched everywhere and can't find it! As per, basing everything on rumour!
Shown yourself up again!

I suggest you re-read my post slowly and try and find out where I stated that the McLean wages figure was publicised by the club?

Before diving in like a bull at a gate, please try a digest what's written an then I'll treat your posts seriously.
Not really have you? I asked you where it was made public by the club! As they are the ones who know, I give up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No, you mis-read my post.

You read the part about the club revealing part of Dava's contract and, in your haste to reply, assumed I'd written the same source had divulged McLean's wage.
[quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Halifax Bantam[/bold] wrote: Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that[/p][/quote]You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league. Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3 Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.[/p][/quote]You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.[/p][/quote]Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.[/p][/quote]Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really.[/p][/quote]We have a mid table budget and that is a fact! !! That was straight from Mark Lawns mouth. So where does that leave us competing? We will be punching above our weight if top 6. Don't think the club can afford to go up competing is just words. Board are happy to stay where we are[/p][/quote]David Badwins exact words Macca The budget cuts An ongoing talking point all summer has been the news that the playing budget has been cut to the tune of £500k – a considerable sum of money, with last season’s wage bill rumoured to be just over £2 million. David stressed that he believes the revised budget is nevertheless competitive, and highlighted a wide-ranging focus on delivering greater efficiency in how the club operates, which includes the playing staff. “There has been a lot of talk about the budget being hacked back by half a million. The bottom line is that, over the last few years, we have had players in the building that have not come in on cheap wages, and yet their game contribution to the team has been sporadic to say the least. “I recently did an article in the T&A about efficiencies. This budget is not a hack-back, it is still a very strong budget. And as part of doing that, we are checking the efficiencies of each transfer so that we aren’t paying, for want of a better word, dead money.”[/p][/quote]It's up to the manager on how he spends the budget not Baldwin. Up to now parky has earned and created far more monies than he has spent. He has also achieved all the boards targets and more, so really Baldwin and the board should allow parky to spend how he sees fit with no interference. Telling parky that some players that have not played etc that in his eyes are a waste of resources is an insult to parky[/p][/quote]Putting it bluntly, I know Jack Schitt about the finances of the football club. I do not know how much the players earn. I do not know what bonuses they are on. I do not know what percentage of the overall budget the £500,000 represents. Therefore, I reserve my opinion because otherwise I would be making ill-informed comments out of my rear end.[/p][/quote]McLean's earnings were publicised. The club also informed us that Davies had a clause stating he had to be the highest earner. With some basic maths, lonnie, it is easy to get very close to their combined earnings. That alone makes a big hole in the budget. Yeates came from a higher division. Hanson, Darby, McArdle resigned on improved contracts. With even the most conservative guess for the wages of these four, you can't get a squad of nineteen or twenty players at our level, for a total budget of £1.5M. Is that any easier to digest, lonnie?[/p][/quote]Pablo, where were McLeans wages made public by the club? I have searched everywhere and can't find it! As per, basing everything on rumour![/p][/quote]Shown yourself up again! I suggest you re-read my post slowly and try and find out where I stated that the McLean wages figure was publicised by the club? Before diving in like a bull at a gate, please try a digest what's written an then I'll treat your posts seriously.[/p][/quote]Not really have you? I asked you where it was made public by the club! As they are the ones who know, I give up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]No, you mis-read my post. You read the part about the club revealing part of Dava's contract and, in your haste to reply, assumed I'd written the same source had divulged McLean's wage. Pablo
  • Score: -2

6:17pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Michael Clayton says...

Pablo wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Pablo wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Pablo wrote:
Michael Clayton wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Halifax Bantam wrote: Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that
You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league. Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3 Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.
You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.
Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.
Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really.
We have a mid table budget and that is a fact! !! That was straight from Mark Lawns mouth. So where does that leave us competing? We will be punching above our weight if top 6. Don't think the club can afford to go up competing is just words. Board are happy to stay where we are
David Badwins exact words Macca The budget cuts An ongoing talking point all summer has been the news that the playing budget has been cut to the tune of £500k – a considerable sum of money, with last season’s wage bill rumoured to be just over £2 million. David stressed that he believes the revised budget is nevertheless competitive, and highlighted a wide-ranging focus on delivering greater efficiency in how the club operates, which includes the playing staff. “There has been a lot of talk about the budget being hacked back by half a million. The bottom line is that, over the last few years, we have had players in the building that have not come in on cheap wages, and yet their game contribution to the team has been sporadic to say the least. “I recently did an article in the T&A about efficiencies. This budget is not a hack-back, it is still a very strong budget. And as part of doing that, we are checking the efficiencies of each transfer so that we aren’t paying, for want of a better word, dead money.”
It's up to the manager on how he spends the budget not Baldwin. Up to now parky has earned and created far more monies than he has spent. He has also achieved all the boards targets and more, so really Baldwin and the board should allow parky to spend how he sees fit with no interference. Telling parky that some players that have not played etc that in his eyes are a waste of resources is an insult to parky
Putting it bluntly, I know Jack Schitt about the finances of the football club. I do not know how much the players earn. I do not know what bonuses they are on. I do not know what percentage of the overall budget the £500,000 represents. Therefore, I reserve my opinion because otherwise I would be making ill-informed comments out of my rear end.
McLean's earnings were publicised. The club also informed us that Davies had a clause stating he had to be the highest earner. With some basic maths, lonnie, it is easy to get very close to their combined earnings. That alone makes a big hole in the budget. Yeates came from a higher division. Hanson, Darby, McArdle resigned on improved contracts. With even the most conservative guess for the wages of these four, you can't get a squad of nineteen or twenty players at our level, for a total budget of £1.5M. Is that any easier to digest, lonnie?
Pablo, where were McLeans wages made public by the club? I have searched everywhere and can't find it! As per, basing everything on rumour!
Shown yourself up again! I suggest you re-read my post slowly and try and find out where I stated that the McLean wages figure was publicised by the club? Before diving in like a bull at a gate, please try a digest what's written an then I'll treat your posts seriously.
Not really have you? I asked you where it was made public by the club! As they are the ones who know, I give up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No, you mis-read my post. You read the part about the club revealing part of Dava's contract and, in your haste to reply, assumed I'd written the same source had divulged McLean's wage.
At comment 58 |(unless someone beats me to it) I am no wiser than I was at comment 43. All that has happened in the mean time is to be mistaken for Lonnie Jockstrap. I have also enoyed a nice conversation over a cup of tea.

However, I still know Jack Schitt about the finances of the football club. I still do not know how much the players earn. I still do not know what bonuses they are on. I still do not know what percentage of the overall budget the £500,000 represents.
[quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Halifax Bantam[/bold] wrote: Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that[/p][/quote]You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league. Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3 Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.[/p][/quote]You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.[/p][/quote]Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.[/p][/quote]Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really.[/p][/quote]We have a mid table budget and that is a fact! !! That was straight from Mark Lawns mouth. So where does that leave us competing? We will be punching above our weight if top 6. Don't think the club can afford to go up competing is just words. Board are happy to stay where we are[/p][/quote]David Badwins exact words Macca The budget cuts An ongoing talking point all summer has been the news that the playing budget has been cut to the tune of £500k – a considerable sum of money, with last season’s wage bill rumoured to be just over £2 million. David stressed that he believes the revised budget is nevertheless competitive, and highlighted a wide-ranging focus on delivering greater efficiency in how the club operates, which includes the playing staff. “There has been a lot of talk about the budget being hacked back by half a million. The bottom line is that, over the last few years, we have had players in the building that have not come in on cheap wages, and yet their game contribution to the team has been sporadic to say the least. “I recently did an article in the T&A about efficiencies. This budget is not a hack-back, it is still a very strong budget. And as part of doing that, we are checking the efficiencies of each transfer so that we aren’t paying, for want of a better word, dead money.”[/p][/quote]It's up to the manager on how he spends the budget not Baldwin. Up to now parky has earned and created far more monies than he has spent. He has also achieved all the boards targets and more, so really Baldwin and the board should allow parky to spend how he sees fit with no interference. Telling parky that some players that have not played etc that in his eyes are a waste of resources is an insult to parky[/p][/quote]Putting it bluntly, I know Jack Schitt about the finances of the football club. I do not know how much the players earn. I do not know what bonuses they are on. I do not know what percentage of the overall budget the £500,000 represents. Therefore, I reserve my opinion because otherwise I would be making ill-informed comments out of my rear end.[/p][/quote]McLean's earnings were publicised. The club also informed us that Davies had a clause stating he had to be the highest earner. With some basic maths, lonnie, it is easy to get very close to their combined earnings. That alone makes a big hole in the budget. Yeates came from a higher division. Hanson, Darby, McArdle resigned on improved contracts. With even the most conservative guess for the wages of these four, you can't get a squad of nineteen or twenty players at our level, for a total budget of £1.5M. Is that any easier to digest, lonnie?[/p][/quote]Pablo, where were McLeans wages made public by the club? I have searched everywhere and can't find it! As per, basing everything on rumour![/p][/quote]Shown yourself up again! I suggest you re-read my post slowly and try and find out where I stated that the McLean wages figure was publicised by the club? Before diving in like a bull at a gate, please try a digest what's written an then I'll treat your posts seriously.[/p][/quote]Not really have you? I asked you where it was made public by the club! As they are the ones who know, I give up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]No, you mis-read my post. You read the part about the club revealing part of Dava's contract and, in your haste to reply, assumed I'd written the same source had divulged McLean's wage.[/p][/quote]At comment 58 |(unless someone beats me to it) I am no wiser than I was at comment 43. All that has happened in the mean time is to be mistaken for Lonnie Jockstrap. I have also enoyed a nice conversation over a cup of tea. However, I still know Jack Schitt about the finances of the football club. I still do not know how much the players earn. I still do not know what bonuses they are on. I still do not know what percentage of the overall budget the £500,000 represents. Michael Clayton
  • Score: 2

6:56pm Fri 1 Aug 14

dannbradfc says...

Yea Lonnie is back. I'm gonna return from bcfc Facebook a bit more now where would you believe it me n waynus have been getting on fine ;-)...even supporting each other and was accused of being the same person. ....
Yea Lonnie is back. I'm gonna return from bcfc Facebook a bit more now where would you believe it me n waynus have been getting on fine ;-)...even supporting each other and was accused of being the same person. .... dannbradfc
  • Score: 2

7:03pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Nickloza says...

Michael Clayton wrote:
Pablo wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Pablo wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Pablo wrote:
Michael Clayton wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Halifax Bantam wrote: Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that
You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league. Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3 Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.
You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.
Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.
Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really.
We have a mid table budget and that is a fact! !! That was straight from Mark Lawns mouth. So where does that leave us competing? We will be punching above our weight if top 6. Don't think the club can afford to go up competing is just words. Board are happy to stay where we are
David Badwins exact words Macca The budget cuts An ongoing talking point all summer has been the news that the playing budget has been cut to the tune of £500k – a considerable sum of money, with last season’s wage bill rumoured to be just over £2 million. David stressed that he believes the revised budget is nevertheless competitive, and highlighted a wide-ranging focus on delivering greater efficiency in how the club operates, which includes the playing staff. “There has been a lot of talk about the budget being hacked back by half a million. The bottom line is that, over the last few years, we have had players in the building that have not come in on cheap wages, and yet their game contribution to the team has been sporadic to say the least. “I recently did an article in the T&A about efficiencies. This budget is not a hack-back, it is still a very strong budget. And as part of doing that, we are checking the efficiencies of each transfer so that we aren’t paying, for want of a better word, dead money.”
It's up to the manager on how he spends the budget not Baldwin. Up to now parky has earned and created far more monies than he has spent. He has also achieved all the boards targets and more, so really Baldwin and the board should allow parky to spend how he sees fit with no interference. Telling parky that some players that have not played etc that in his eyes are a waste of resources is an insult to parky
Putting it bluntly, I know Jack Schitt about the finances of the football club. I do not know how much the players earn. I do not know what bonuses they are on. I do not know what percentage of the overall budget the £500,000 represents. Therefore, I reserve my opinion because otherwise I would be making ill-informed comments out of my rear end.
McLean's earnings were publicised. The club also informed us that Davies had a clause stating he had to be the highest earner. With some basic maths, lonnie, it is easy to get very close to their combined earnings. That alone makes a big hole in the budget. Yeates came from a higher division. Hanson, Darby, McArdle resigned on improved contracts. With even the most conservative guess for the wages of these four, you can't get a squad of nineteen or twenty players at our level, for a total budget of £1.5M. Is that any easier to digest, lonnie?
Pablo, where were McLeans wages made public by the club? I have searched everywhere and can't find it! As per, basing everything on rumour!
Shown yourself up again! I suggest you re-read my post slowly and try and find out where I stated that the McLean wages figure was publicised by the club? Before diving in like a bull at a gate, please try a digest what's written an then I'll treat your posts seriously.
Not really have you? I asked you where it was made public by the club! As they are the ones who know, I give up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No, you mis-read my post. You read the part about the club revealing part of Dava's contract and, in your haste to reply, assumed I'd written the same source had divulged McLean's wage.
At comment 58 |(unless someone beats me to it) I am no wiser than I was at comment 43. All that has happened in the mean time is to be mistaken for Lonnie Jockstrap. I have also enoyed a nice conversation over a cup of tea.

However, I still know Jack Schitt about the finances of the football club. I still do not know how much the players earn. I still do not know what bonuses they are on. I still do not know what percentage of the overall budget the £500,000 represents.
Ask Pablo!
[quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Halifax Bantam[/bold] wrote: Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that[/p][/quote]You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league. Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3 Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.[/p][/quote]You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.[/p][/quote]Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.[/p][/quote]Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really.[/p][/quote]We have a mid table budget and that is a fact! !! That was straight from Mark Lawns mouth. So where does that leave us competing? We will be punching above our weight if top 6. Don't think the club can afford to go up competing is just words. Board are happy to stay where we are[/p][/quote]David Badwins exact words Macca The budget cuts An ongoing talking point all summer has been the news that the playing budget has been cut to the tune of £500k – a considerable sum of money, with last season’s wage bill rumoured to be just over £2 million. David stressed that he believes the revised budget is nevertheless competitive, and highlighted a wide-ranging focus on delivering greater efficiency in how the club operates, which includes the playing staff. “There has been a lot of talk about the budget being hacked back by half a million. The bottom line is that, over the last few years, we have had players in the building that have not come in on cheap wages, and yet their game contribution to the team has been sporadic to say the least. “I recently did an article in the T&A about efficiencies. This budget is not a hack-back, it is still a very strong budget. And as part of doing that, we are checking the efficiencies of each transfer so that we aren’t paying, for want of a better word, dead money.”[/p][/quote]It's up to the manager on how he spends the budget not Baldwin. Up to now parky has earned and created far more monies than he has spent. He has also achieved all the boards targets and more, so really Baldwin and the board should allow parky to spend how he sees fit with no interference. Telling parky that some players that have not played etc that in his eyes are a waste of resources is an insult to parky[/p][/quote]Putting it bluntly, I know Jack Schitt about the finances of the football club. I do not know how much the players earn. I do not know what bonuses they are on. I do not know what percentage of the overall budget the £500,000 represents. Therefore, I reserve my opinion because otherwise I would be making ill-informed comments out of my rear end.[/p][/quote]McLean's earnings were publicised. The club also informed us that Davies had a clause stating he had to be the highest earner. With some basic maths, lonnie, it is easy to get very close to their combined earnings. That alone makes a big hole in the budget. Yeates came from a higher division. Hanson, Darby, McArdle resigned on improved contracts. With even the most conservative guess for the wages of these four, you can't get a squad of nineteen or twenty players at our level, for a total budget of £1.5M. Is that any easier to digest, lonnie?[/p][/quote]Pablo, where were McLeans wages made public by the club? I have searched everywhere and can't find it! As per, basing everything on rumour![/p][/quote]Shown yourself up again! I suggest you re-read my post slowly and try and find out where I stated that the McLean wages figure was publicised by the club? Before diving in like a bull at a gate, please try a digest what's written an then I'll treat your posts seriously.[/p][/quote]Not really have you? I asked you where it was made public by the club! As they are the ones who know, I give up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]No, you mis-read my post. You read the part about the club revealing part of Dava's contract and, in your haste to reply, assumed I'd written the same source had divulged McLean's wage.[/p][/quote]At comment 58 |(unless someone beats me to it) I am no wiser than I was at comment 43. All that has happened in the mean time is to be mistaken for Lonnie Jockstrap. I have also enoyed a nice conversation over a cup of tea. However, I still know Jack Schitt about the finances of the football club. I still do not know how much the players earn. I still do not know what bonuses they are on. I still do not know what percentage of the overall budget the £500,000 represents.[/p][/quote]Ask Pablo! Nickloza
  • Score: 2

7:06pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Nickloza says...

Pablo wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Pablo wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Pablo wrote:
Michael Clayton wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Halifax Bantam wrote: Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that
You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league. Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3 Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.
You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.
Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.
Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really.
We have a mid table budget and that is a fact! !! That was straight from Mark Lawns mouth. So where does that leave us competing? We will be punching above our weight if top 6. Don't think the club can afford to go up competing is just words. Board are happy to stay where we are
David Badwins exact words Macca The budget cuts An ongoing talking point all summer has been the news that the playing budget has been cut to the tune of £500k – a considerable sum of money, with last season’s wage bill rumoured to be just over £2 million. David stressed that he believes the revised budget is nevertheless competitive, and highlighted a wide-ranging focus on delivering greater efficiency in how the club operates, which includes the playing staff. “There has been a lot of talk about the budget being hacked back by half a million. The bottom line is that, over the last few years, we have had players in the building that have not come in on cheap wages, and yet their game contribution to the team has been sporadic to say the least. “I recently did an article in the T&A about efficiencies. This budget is not a hack-back, it is still a very strong budget. And as part of doing that, we are checking the efficiencies of each transfer so that we aren’t paying, for want of a better word, dead money.”
It's up to the manager on how he spends the budget not Baldwin. Up to now parky has earned and created far more monies than he has spent. He has also achieved all the boards targets and more, so really Baldwin and the board should allow parky to spend how he sees fit with no interference. Telling parky that some players that have not played etc that in his eyes are a waste of resources is an insult to parky
Putting it bluntly, I know Jack Schitt about the finances of the football club.

I do not know how much the players earn.

I do not know what bonuses they are on.

I do not know what percentage of the overall budget the £500,000 represents.

Therefore, I reserve my opinion because otherwise I would be making ill-informed comments out of my rear end.
McLean's earnings were publicised. The club also informed us that Davies had a clause stating he had to be the highest earner. With some basic maths, lonnie, it is easy to get very close to their combined earnings. That alone makes a big hole in the budget.

Yeates came from a higher division. Hanson, Darby, McArdle resigned on improved contracts. With even the most conservative guess for the wages of these four, you can't get a squad of nineteen or twenty players at our level, for a total budget of £1.5M.

Is that any easier to digest, lonnie?
Pablo, where were McLeans wages made public by the club? I have searched everywhere and can't find it! As per, basing everything on rumour!
Shown yourself up again!

I suggest you re-read my post slowly and try and find out where I stated that the McLean wages figure was publicised by the club?

Before diving in like a bull at a gate, please try a digest what's written an then I'll treat your posts seriously.
Not really have you? I asked you where it was made public by the club! As they are the ones who know, I give up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No, you mis-read my post.

You read the part about the club revealing part of Dava's contract and, in your haste to reply, assumed I'd written the same source had divulged McLean's wage.
I misread nothing, I asked you a question! Still awaiting an answer. Oh Dear
[quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Halifax Bantam[/bold] wrote: Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that[/p][/quote]You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league. Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3 Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.[/p][/quote]You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.[/p][/quote]Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.[/p][/quote]Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really.[/p][/quote]We have a mid table budget and that is a fact! !! That was straight from Mark Lawns mouth. So where does that leave us competing? We will be punching above our weight if top 6. Don't think the club can afford to go up competing is just words. Board are happy to stay where we are[/p][/quote]David Badwins exact words Macca The budget cuts An ongoing talking point all summer has been the news that the playing budget has been cut to the tune of £500k – a considerable sum of money, with last season’s wage bill rumoured to be just over £2 million. David stressed that he believes the revised budget is nevertheless competitive, and highlighted a wide-ranging focus on delivering greater efficiency in how the club operates, which includes the playing staff. “There has been a lot of talk about the budget being hacked back by half a million. The bottom line is that, over the last few years, we have had players in the building that have not come in on cheap wages, and yet their game contribution to the team has been sporadic to say the least. “I recently did an article in the T&A about efficiencies. This budget is not a hack-back, it is still a very strong budget. And as part of doing that, we are checking the efficiencies of each transfer so that we aren’t paying, for want of a better word, dead money.”[/p][/quote]It's up to the manager on how he spends the budget not Baldwin. Up to now parky has earned and created far more monies than he has spent. He has also achieved all the boards targets and more, so really Baldwin and the board should allow parky to spend how he sees fit with no interference. Telling parky that some players that have not played etc that in his eyes are a waste of resources is an insult to parky[/p][/quote]Putting it bluntly, I know Jack Schitt about the finances of the football club. I do not know how much the players earn. I do not know what bonuses they are on. I do not know what percentage of the overall budget the £500,000 represents. Therefore, I reserve my opinion because otherwise I would be making ill-informed comments out of my rear end.[/p][/quote]McLean's earnings were publicised. The club also informed us that Davies had a clause stating he had to be the highest earner. With some basic maths, lonnie, it is easy to get very close to their combined earnings. That alone makes a big hole in the budget. Yeates came from a higher division. Hanson, Darby, McArdle resigned on improved contracts. With even the most conservative guess for the wages of these four, you can't get a squad of nineteen or twenty players at our level, for a total budget of £1.5M. Is that any easier to digest, lonnie?[/p][/quote]Pablo, where were McLeans wages made public by the club? I have searched everywhere and can't find it! As per, basing everything on rumour![/p][/quote]Shown yourself up again! I suggest you re-read my post slowly and try and find out where I stated that the McLean wages figure was publicised by the club? Before diving in like a bull at a gate, please try a digest what's written an then I'll treat your posts seriously.[/p][/quote]Not really have you? I asked you where it was made public by the club! As they are the ones who know, I give up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]No, you mis-read my post. You read the part about the club revealing part of Dava's contract and, in your haste to reply, assumed I'd written the same source had divulged McLean's wage.[/p][/quote]I misread nothing, I asked you a question! Still awaiting an answer. Oh Dear Nickloza
  • Score: 2

7:13pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Nickloza says...

Pablo wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Pablo wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Pablo wrote:
Michael Clayton wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
macca1969 wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Nickloza wrote:
Baby Bantam wrote:
Halifax Bantam wrote: Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that
You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league. Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3 Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.
You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.
Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.
Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really.
We have a mid table budget and that is a fact! !! That was straight from Mark Lawns mouth. So where does that leave us competing? We will be punching above our weight if top 6. Don't think the club can afford to go up competing is just words. Board are happy to stay where we are
David Badwins exact words Macca The budget cuts An ongoing talking point all summer has been the news that the playing budget has been cut to the tune of £500k – a considerable sum of money, with last season’s wage bill rumoured to be just over £2 million. David stressed that he believes the revised budget is nevertheless competitive, and highlighted a wide-ranging focus on delivering greater efficiency in how the club operates, which includes the playing staff. “There has been a lot of talk about the budget being hacked back by half a million. The bottom line is that, over the last few years, we have had players in the building that have not come in on cheap wages, and yet their game contribution to the team has been sporadic to say the least. “I recently did an article in the T&A about efficiencies. This budget is not a hack-back, it is still a very strong budget. And as part of doing that, we are checking the efficiencies of each transfer so that we aren’t paying, for want of a better word, dead money.”
It's up to the manager on how he spends the budget not Baldwin. Up to now parky has earned and created far more monies than he has spent. He has also achieved all the boards targets and more, so really Baldwin and the board should allow parky to spend how he sees fit with no interference. Telling parky that some players that have not played etc that in his eyes are a waste of resources is an insult to parky
Putting it bluntly, I know Jack Schitt about the finances of the football club.

I do not know how much the players earn.

I do not know what bonuses they are on.

I do not know what percentage of the overall budget the £500,000 represents.

Therefore, I reserve my opinion because otherwise I would be making ill-informed comments out of my rear end.
McLean's earnings were publicised. The club also informed us that Davies had a clause stating he had to be the highest earner. With some basic maths, lonnie, it is easy to get very close to their combined earnings. That alone makes a big hole in the budget.

Yeates came from a higher division. Hanson, Darby, McArdle resigned on improved contracts. With even the most conservative guess for the wages of these four, you can't get a squad of nineteen or twenty players at our level, for a total budget of £1.5M.

Is that any easier to digest, lonnie?
Pablo, where were McLeans wages made public by the club? I have searched everywhere and can't find it! As per, basing everything on rumour!
Shown yourself up again!

I suggest you re-read my post slowly and try and find out where I stated that the McLean wages figure was publicised by the club?

Before diving in like a bull at a gate, please try a digest what's written an then I'll treat your posts seriously.
Not really have you? I asked you where it was made public by the club! As they are the ones who know, I give up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No, you mis-read my post.

You read the part about the club revealing part of Dava's contract and, in your haste to reply, assumed I'd written the same source had divulged McLean's wage.
WHO DID DIVULGE McLEANS WAGE THEN????????????????
? I'ts not rocket science!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]macca1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nickloza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baby Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Halifax Bantam[/bold] wrote: Surely everyone at the club already knows we need more players, what has happened to the top targets that were mentioned earlier in close season? This article seems to suggest to me that PP might not have the competative budget we are led to believe he has! Or maybe its just the lack of transfer activity thats making me think that[/p][/quote]You say we might not have a competitive budget but I bet we have one of the biggest wage bills in the league. Soon goes when you paying Championship wages in div 3 Got too many players on silly wages like McLean and I bet Darbs is on a silly packet now too. I don't blame the players, I blame the agents.[/p][/quote]You nor I haven't a clue who gets paid what.[/p][/quote]Well where do you think the money's going? Do you think all our lads are on minimum wages and the 'evil' chairman are milking the club dry? Or more likely. We have wages to pay, big wages hens we ain't got that much money left.[/p][/quote]Don't be silly now, but to start saying players are on championship wages without knowing what anyone earns is totally wrong imo . we have a competitive budget, but I for one won't be basing my opinions based on what I think other players are earning, pointless really.[/p][/quote]We have a mid table budget and that is a fact! !! That was straight from Mark Lawns mouth. So where does that leave us competing? We will be punching above our weight if top 6. Don't think the club can afford to go up competing is just words. Board are happy to stay where we are[/p][/quote]David Badwins exact words Macca The budget cuts An ongoing talking point all summer has been the news that the playing budget has been cut to the tune of £500k – a considerable sum of money, with last season’s wage bill rumoured to be just over £2 million. David stressed that he believes the revised budget is nevertheless competitive, and highlighted a wide-ranging focus on delivering greater efficiency in how the club operates, which includes the playing staff. “There has been a lot of talk about the budget being hacked back by half a million. The bottom line is that, over the last few years, we have had players in the building that have not come in on cheap wages, and yet their game contribution to the team has been sporadic to say the least. “I recently did an article in the T&A about efficiencies. This budget is not a hack-back, it is still a very strong budget. And as part of doing that, we are checking the efficiencies of each transfer so that we aren’t paying, for want of a better word, dead money.”[/p][/quote]It's up to the manager on how he spends the budget not Baldwin. Up to now parky has earned and created far more monies than he has spent. He has also achieved all the boards targets and more, so really Baldwin and the board should allow parky to spend how he sees fit with no interference. Telling parky that some players that have not played etc that in his eyes are a waste of resources is an insult to parky[/p][/quote]Putting it bluntly, I know Jack Schitt about the finances of the football club. I do not know how much the players earn. I do not know what bonuses they are on. I do not know what percentage of the overall budget the £500,000 represents. Therefore, I reserve my opinion because otherwise I would be making ill-informed comments out of my rear end.[/p][/quote]McLean's earnings were publicised. The club also informed us that Davies had a clause stating he had to be the highest earner. With some basic maths, lonnie, it is easy to get very close to their combined earnings. That alone makes a big hole in the budget. Yeates came from a higher division. Hanson, Darby, McArdle resigned on improved contracts. With even the most conservative guess for the wages of these four, you can't get a squad of nineteen or twenty players at our level, for a total budget of £1.5M. Is that any easier to digest, lonnie?[/p][/quote]Pablo, where were McLeans wages made public by the club? I have searched everywhere and can't find it! As per, basing everything on rumour![/p][/quote]Shown yourself up again! I suggest you re-read my post slowly and try and find out where I stated that the McLean wages figure was publicised by the club? Before diving in like a bull at a gate, please try a digest what's written an then I'll treat your posts seriously.[/p][/quote]Not really have you? I asked you where it was made public by the club! As they are the ones who know, I give up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]No, you mis-read my post. You read the part about the club revealing part of Dava's contract and, in your haste to reply, assumed I'd written the same source had divulged McLean's wage.[/p][/quote]WHO DID DIVULGE McLEANS WAGE THEN???????????????? ? I'ts not rocket science!!!!!!! Nickloza
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1:03am Sat 2 Aug 14

Waynus1971 says...

I've had a similar spat with 'Make-it-up-and-star
t-to-believe-it' Pablo. He continue to throw wild accusations around and yet won't even ATTEMPT to back them up. At least when I have been challenged, I have tried to back-up my claim.

Pablo 'knows' what our budget was last season and what it is now. Pablo 'knows' what we pay Mclean, Hanson, Darby, Yeates & McArdle. Pablo has provided the proof that their combined wages total £1.5m (oh hang on, he hasn't yet provided that proof)!!!!! He also claims to know how much McLaughlin is earning.

The guy is priceless and just full of quotes he has read here, there and everywhere!!!
I've had a similar spat with 'Make-it-up-and-star t-to-believe-it' Pablo. He continue to throw wild accusations around and yet won't even ATTEMPT to back them up. At least when I have been challenged, I have tried to back-up my claim. Pablo 'knows' what our budget was last season and what it is now. Pablo 'knows' what we pay Mclean, Hanson, Darby, Yeates & McArdle. Pablo has provided the proof that their combined wages total £1.5m (oh hang on, he hasn't yet provided that proof)!!!!! He also claims to know how much McLaughlin is earning. The guy is priceless and just full of quotes he has read here, there and everywhere!!! Waynus1971
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