Bradford Bulls to decide on further points appeal next week

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Bulls chairman Marc Green will decide after Friday's game with Hull KR whether to appeal again against the club's six-point penalty Bulls chairman Marc Green will decide after Friday's game with Hull KR whether to appeal again against the club's six-point penalty

Bulls chairman Marc Green says he will make a decision next week on whether to take further legal action against the club’s six-point penalty.

Green has already seen his appeal to win back the points fail after an independent Sporting Sanctions Appeal Panel upheld the punishment last week.

But Green is still considering pursuing the matter in the High Court and will make a call after tomorrow’s game with Hull KR.

He said: “In respect of the points deduction, despite this being unpopular with others in the game, the club will be making a decision next week as to whether to take matters to the High Court.

“While I appreciate the comments made suggesting we should accept our medicine and move on, I can only acquiesce to such thought process if I am satisfied the original decision was correct.

“Just because a doctor provides a diagnosis, it does not mean you are not entitled to a second opinion.

“The issues surrounding the points deduction and our appeal were and remain extremely complex.

“However, we believe the decision reached by the Sporting Sanctions Appeals Panel was not only flawed but completely wrong and, as a result, I am willing to continue fighting the fight for this great club.

“If, however, we are relegated, we will put every effort into returning in the quickest time possible.

“The club will operate a full-time first team and there will be no redundancies as a result of relegation, in any department.”

In a curious statement, Green also called on lapsed fans to return to back the club ahead of tomorrow’s game.

He added: “I recall, thinking of the other shaped ball, teams such as Manchester City – who at one stage slumped to the third tier of English football – Manchester United, Newcastle United and Sunderland all relegated.

“As a result, they found themselves going up against the likes of Plymouth Argyle, Yeovil and Exeter City to name but a few. I also recall teams, such as, Luton Town, Coventry City, and Wimbledon, who were all regular top-flight teams, who even went on to win trophies, but have failed to return.

“You may ask what was the fundamental difference? The answer is simple, it is you – the supporters.

“The teams who have returned to the lofty heights of the top flight of football's Premier Division (and did so before being purchased by the billionaires currently owning them), did so because their crowds never dropped and their fans bought into the plan, which is what I am asking ours to do, should the remainder of the season not pan out as we all hope.

“We recently celebrated the 70th Anniversary of D-Day and, while I and no doubt most of you are to young to have been there, the success of the operation was only achieved as a result of a combined effort by all forces, in complete contrast to the tragedy of Dunkirk which came a few years earlier, when a single, stand-alone force failed.”

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9:07pm Wed 18 Jun 14

bantampat says...

Give it a rest
Give it a rest bantampat
  • Score: -4

9:28pm Wed 18 Jun 14

axelf1963 says...

Channel your thoughts and wallet towards staying up green.
Channel your thoughts and wallet towards staying up green. axelf1963
  • Score: -4

9:53pm Wed 18 Jun 14

bradfordbronco says...

What is "curious" about asking for fans to back the club?
Makes complete sense to me. We will get relegated but if he is willing to keep a full time squad together, we the fans should give him our full support and backing. Hopefully it will only be short term in the championship but it could be a fun season especially the away games
What is "curious" about asking for fans to back the club? Makes complete sense to me. We will get relegated but if he is willing to keep a full time squad together, we the fans should give him our full support and backing. Hopefully it will only be short term in the championship but it could be a fun season especially the away games bradfordbronco
  • Score: 9

10:07pm Wed 18 Jun 14

hypjack says...

bradfordbronco wrote:
What is "curious" about asking for fans to back the club?
Makes complete sense to me. We will get relegated but if he is willing to keep a full time squad together, we the fans should give him our full support and backing. Hopefully it will only be short term in the championship but it could be a fun season especially the away games
Good comment Bronco. Mr Green should be congratulated in his quest to pursue the 6 points if he feels the Bulls have been badly done to as he knows ALL the facts & we don't. At least Mr Green has a tenacity & spirit which sadly at the moment the bulls players lack. I will be there next season whichever league we are playing in as will all the true Bulls fans. COYB 😃
[quote][p][bold]bradfordbronco[/bold] wrote: What is "curious" about asking for fans to back the club? Makes complete sense to me. We will get relegated but if he is willing to keep a full time squad together, we the fans should give him our full support and backing. Hopefully it will only be short term in the championship but it could be a fun season especially the away games[/p][/quote]Good comment Bronco. Mr Green should be congratulated in his quest to pursue the 6 points if he feels the Bulls have been badly done to as he knows ALL the facts & we don't. At least Mr Green has a tenacity & spirit which sadly at the moment the bulls players lack. I will be there next season whichever league we are playing in as will all the true Bulls fans. COYB 😃 hypjack
  • Score: 8

10:40pm Wed 18 Jun 14

Its Granola - Granola says...

Look into my eyes , my eyes ,SCARY or what ,think whatever this guy is on he either needs to cut down or up the dosage cos the current one is not working.
Mind you we are coming up to summer solstice so maybe the sun and other solsticcy type things are having an effect who knows.
Comments like this regarding a totally different sport and set up-( ie greedy overrated prima donna tossers ) do not really instill faith into a struggling superleague teams fan's do they??.
Me thinks along with quite a lot of the SL world that Green should put up or shut up , stop playing games or should that be get the team to start playing games .
Also like to add regarding Cummins sacking ,the man did what he could with what he had - you can only p*ss with the pri*k you've got, and you can't polish a t*rd.
Good Luck Bulls .
Look into my eyes , my eyes ,SCARY or what ,think whatever this guy is on he either needs to cut down or up the dosage cos the current one is not working. Mind you we are coming up to summer solstice so maybe the sun and other solsticcy type things are having an effect who knows. Comments like this regarding a totally different sport and set up-( ie greedy overrated prima donna tossers ) do not really instill faith into a struggling superleague teams fan's do they??. Me thinks along with quite a lot of the SL world that Green should put up or shut up , stop playing games or should that be get the team to start playing games . Also like to add regarding Cummins sacking ,the man did what he could with what he had - you can only p*ss with the pri*k you've got, and you can't polish a t*rd. Good Luck Bulls . Its Granola - Granola
  • Score: -4

10:43pm Wed 18 Jun 14

BierleyBoy says...

How stupid does Green think the people of Bradford are? Does he not realise the Bulls haven't made the play offs since 2008, the last three years have been horrendous and that the performances this year are the worst in 30 years?

His comparison with football is just so full of holes, he's insulting the intelligence of the man in the street by pushing the lines he does.

He would be much better served selling his passion and belief in the club and the game. Of course he can't do that because he never wanted the club in the first place and is a football man through and through.
How stupid does Green think the people of Bradford are? Does he not realise the Bulls haven't made the play offs since 2008, the last three years have been horrendous and that the performances this year are the worst in 30 years? His comparison with football is just so full of holes, he's insulting the intelligence of the man in the street by pushing the lines he does. He would be much better served selling his passion and belief in the club and the game. Of course he can't do that because he never wanted the club in the first place and is a football man through and through. BierleyBoy
  • Score: 2

10:56pm Wed 18 Jun 14

Bradfordbull72 says...

The man is criticised for whatever he does or says by some of the cranks on here. I feel really sorry for FC who had nothing but bad luck and was doing his job with his hands tied behind his back, however he will come out of this with lots of respect by anyone with half a brain. Fair play for not accepting the points decision, if he is prepared to take it to court suggests there are a lot of contentious issues surrounding it and possibly the money we have had taken away. Either way it will expose the real goings on at the rfl. I am happy to fight them all the way.
The man is criticised for whatever he does or says by some of the cranks on here. I feel really sorry for FC who had nothing but bad luck and was doing his job with his hands tied behind his back, however he will come out of this with lots of respect by anyone with half a brain. Fair play for not accepting the points decision, if he is prepared to take it to court suggests there are a lot of contentious issues surrounding it and possibly the money we have had taken away. Either way it will expose the real goings on at the rfl. I am happy to fight them all the way. Bradfordbull72
  • Score: 6

11:34pm Wed 18 Jun 14

BierleyBoy says...

Bradfordbull72 wrote:
The man is criticised for whatever he does or says by some of the cranks on here. I feel really sorry for FC who had nothing but bad luck and was doing his job with his hands tied behind his back, however he will come out of this with lots of respect by anyone with half a brain. Fair play for not accepting the points decision, if he is prepared to take it to court suggests there are a lot of contentious issues surrounding it and possibly the money we have had taken away. Either way it will expose the real goings on at the rfl. I am happy to fight them all the way.
Have you any idea how hypocritical Green is being? Stated publicly that Bulls had a right to appeal and that everyone should accept the decision of the panel, whether they liked it or not. He said the same live on TV before the Warrington cup tie.

Now the appeal has failed, he's still saying the original decision was wrong, that the appeal panel were wrong and is mooting legal action.

Is he so desperate to try and get onside with Bulls fans?
[quote][p][bold]Bradfordbull72[/bold] wrote: The man is criticised for whatever he does or says by some of the cranks on here. I feel really sorry for FC who had nothing but bad luck and was doing his job with his hands tied behind his back, however he will come out of this with lots of respect by anyone with half a brain. Fair play for not accepting the points decision, if he is prepared to take it to court suggests there are a lot of contentious issues surrounding it and possibly the money we have had taken away. Either way it will expose the real goings on at the rfl. I am happy to fight them all the way.[/p][/quote]Have you any idea how hypocritical Green is being? Stated publicly that Bulls had a right to appeal and that everyone should accept the decision of the panel, whether they liked it or not. He said the same live on TV before the Warrington cup tie. Now the appeal has failed, he's still saying the original decision was wrong, that the appeal panel were wrong and is mooting legal action. Is he so desperate to try and get onside with Bulls fans? BierleyBoy
  • Score: 4

5:54am Thu 19 Jun 14

Mike Strutter says...

One thing is for sure...the Bulls will be paying the bill
One thing is for sure...the Bulls will be paying the bill Mike Strutter
  • Score: 4

6:12am Thu 19 Jun 14

flashdonut says...

BierleyBoy wrote:
Bradfordbull72 wrote:
The man is criticised for whatever he does or says by some of the cranks on here. I feel really sorry for FC who had nothing but bad luck and was doing his job with his hands tied behind his back, however he will come out of this with lots of respect by anyone with half a brain. Fair play for not accepting the points decision, if he is prepared to take it to court suggests there are a lot of contentious issues surrounding it and possibly the money we have had taken away. Either way it will expose the real goings on at the rfl. I am happy to fight them all the way.
Have you any idea how hypocritical Green is being? Stated publicly that Bulls had a right to appeal and that everyone should accept the decision of the panel, whether they liked it or not. He said the same live on TV before the Warrington cup tie.

Now the appeal has failed, he's still saying the original decision was wrong, that the appeal panel were wrong and is mooting legal action.

Is he so desperate to try and get onside with Bulls fans?
Yea. But that aint hypocritical kid. Look it up.
[quote][p][bold]BierleyBoy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bradfordbull72[/bold] wrote: The man is criticised for whatever he does or says by some of the cranks on here. I feel really sorry for FC who had nothing but bad luck and was doing his job with his hands tied behind his back, however he will come out of this with lots of respect by anyone with half a brain. Fair play for not accepting the points decision, if he is prepared to take it to court suggests there are a lot of contentious issues surrounding it and possibly the money we have had taken away. Either way it will expose the real goings on at the rfl. I am happy to fight them all the way.[/p][/quote]Have you any idea how hypocritical Green is being? Stated publicly that Bulls had a right to appeal and that everyone should accept the decision of the panel, whether they liked it or not. He said the same live on TV before the Warrington cup tie. Now the appeal has failed, he's still saying the original decision was wrong, that the appeal panel were wrong and is mooting legal action. Is he so desperate to try and get onside with Bulls fans?[/p][/quote]Yea. But that aint hypocritical kid. Look it up. flashdonut
  • Score: 1

8:17am Thu 19 Jun 14

Sad bull says...

Bradfordbull72 wrote:
The man is criticised for whatever he does or says by some of the cranks on here. I feel really sorry for FC who had nothing but bad luck and was doing his job with his hands tied behind his back, however he will come out of this with lots of respect by anyone with half a brain. Fair play for not accepting the points decision, if he is prepared to take it to court suggests there are a lot of contentious issues surrounding it and possibly the money we have had taken away. Either way it will expose the real goings on at the rfl. I am happy to fight them all the way.
I think you have hit the nail on the head.

It is pretty clear that the RFL advised the Bulls to enter admin. ( who put them there is another matter ) after they failed to broker a deal, between Khan and Moore and co for his shares. It is also pretty clear from statements made at the time that they were told " no points deduction and no special measures ", which is why Mark Moore and his colleagues walked when these were imposed without further discussion.

The facts need to come out in the public domain. If they get away with it this time which club will be next to be conned by the RFL ?
[quote][p][bold]Bradfordbull72[/bold] wrote: The man is criticised for whatever he does or says by some of the cranks on here. I feel really sorry for FC who had nothing but bad luck and was doing his job with his hands tied behind his back, however he will come out of this with lots of respect by anyone with half a brain. Fair play for not accepting the points decision, if he is prepared to take it to court suggests there are a lot of contentious issues surrounding it and possibly the money we have had taken away. Either way it will expose the real goings on at the rfl. I am happy to fight them all the way.[/p][/quote]I think you have hit the nail on the head. It is pretty clear that the RFL advised the Bulls to enter admin. ( who put them there is another matter ) after they failed to broker a deal, between Khan and Moore and co for his shares. It is also pretty clear from statements made at the time that they were told " no points deduction and no special measures ", which is why Mark Moore and his colleagues walked when these were imposed without further discussion. The facts need to come out in the public domain. If they get away with it this time which club will be next to be conned by the RFL ? Sad bull
  • Score: 5

12:36pm Thu 19 Jun 14

raisemeup says...

BierleyBoy wrote:
Bradfordbull72 wrote:
The man is criticised for whatever he does or says by some of the cranks on here. I feel really sorry for FC who had nothing but bad luck and was doing his job with his hands tied behind his back, however he will come out of this with lots of respect by anyone with half a brain. Fair play for not accepting the points decision, if he is prepared to take it to court suggests there are a lot of contentious issues surrounding it and possibly the money we have had taken away. Either way it will expose the real goings on at the rfl. I am happy to fight them all the way.
Have you any idea how hypocritical Green is being? Stated publicly that Bulls had a right to appeal and that everyone should accept the decision of the panel, whether they liked it or not. He said the same live on TV before the Warrington cup tie.

Now the appeal has failed, he's still saying the original decision was wrong, that the appeal panel were wrong and is mooting legal action.

Is he so desperate to try and get onside with Bulls fans?
Can't you give it a rest BB.
You are against everyone at the Bulls, no one is given a chance by you, are they? It strikes me that if everyone and everything is wrong in your eyes, probably they were right, and it's you who is wrong?
[quote][p][bold]BierleyBoy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bradfordbull72[/bold] wrote: The man is criticised for whatever he does or says by some of the cranks on here. I feel really sorry for FC who had nothing but bad luck and was doing his job with his hands tied behind his back, however he will come out of this with lots of respect by anyone with half a brain. Fair play for not accepting the points decision, if he is prepared to take it to court suggests there are a lot of contentious issues surrounding it and possibly the money we have had taken away. Either way it will expose the real goings on at the rfl. I am happy to fight them all the way.[/p][/quote]Have you any idea how hypocritical Green is being? Stated publicly that Bulls had a right to appeal and that everyone should accept the decision of the panel, whether they liked it or not. He said the same live on TV before the Warrington cup tie. Now the appeal has failed, he's still saying the original decision was wrong, that the appeal panel were wrong and is mooting legal action. Is he so desperate to try and get onside with Bulls fans?[/p][/quote]Can't you give it a rest BB. You are against everyone at the Bulls, no one is given a chance by you, are they? It strikes me that if everyone and everything is wrong in your eyes, probably they were right, and it's you who is wrong? raisemeup
  • Score: -1

12:48pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Sense99 says...

I am not surprised everyone is criticising Green. I am very underwhelmed and unimpressed by Green. I haven't seen any great actions yet to try and secure the team in SL. Infact all I have seen is inaction and useless verbal rhetoric. I am all ready starting to look forward to the end of his tenure. Why or why buy a club and not be prepared to throw some money at it.

Lets stop blaming the RFL, its so easy. Green bought the club, and if he was such a great business man he should of made sure he knew what he was getting into. The rules are simple - 4 points deducted for admin and a further 2 for not making best attempts to pay creditors back. So we should be docked 6 points. Simple, no matter what his discussions with the RFL. If the RFL did said no points deduction then I also assume as a business man he would have got it in writing with the appropriate criteria ?

I just wish Green and the board had worried more about investing in better players and a coach when he took over, although it is too late now. Appealing against the points decision just smacks of total desperation not tenacity. Move on, bang another drum. Me thinks he just wants to deflect from the appalling team performances.

His comments...
“The teams who have returned to the lofty heights of the top flight of football's Premier Division (and did so before being purchased by the billionaires currently owning them), did so because their crowds never dropped and their fans bought into the plan, which is what I am asking ours to do, should the remainder of the season not pan out as we all hope"

What plan ? Plan A was get the points back. Plan B was plan A. Is plan C get relegated? He can't seriously expect the fans to believe a word he or he board say - considering their complete lack of investment, and their previous communications that they would ensure the club would stay in SL and they would do everything to ensure we did, and they would accept the independent panels decision - well I haven't seen anything let alone everything.
I am not surprised everyone is criticising Green. I am very underwhelmed and unimpressed by Green. I haven't seen any great actions yet to try and secure the team in SL. Infact all I have seen is inaction and useless verbal rhetoric. I am all ready starting to look forward to the end of his tenure. Why or why buy a club and not be prepared to throw some money at it. Lets stop blaming the RFL, its so easy. Green bought the club, and if he was such a great business man he should of made sure he knew what he was getting into. The rules are simple - 4 points deducted for admin and a further 2 for not making best attempts to pay creditors back. So we should be docked 6 points. Simple, no matter what his discussions with the RFL. If the RFL did said no points deduction then I also assume as a business man he would have got it in writing with the appropriate criteria ? I just wish Green and the board had worried more about investing in better players and a coach when he took over, although it is too late now. Appealing against the points decision just smacks of total desperation not tenacity. Move on, bang another drum. Me thinks he just wants to deflect from the appalling team performances. His comments... “The teams who have returned to the lofty heights of the top flight of football's Premier Division (and did so before being purchased by the billionaires currently owning them), did so because their crowds never dropped and their fans bought into the plan, which is what I am asking ours to do, should the remainder of the season not pan out as we all hope" What plan ? Plan A was get the points back. Plan B was plan A. Is plan C get relegated? He can't seriously expect the fans to believe a word he or he board say - considering their complete lack of investment, and their previous communications that they would ensure the club would stay in SL and they would do everything to ensure we did, and they would accept the independent panels decision - well I haven't seen anything let alone everything. Sense99
  • Score: 0

2:47pm Thu 19 Jun 14

spanglishbull.uk says...

Sense99,
I gave you the benefit of the doubt thinking you were all wound up to come out and say the things you said.Now I know I was wrong,you really are an idiot.You can not wait for the end of his tenure,so really you are not a Bulls supporter,you can not wait to see the Bulls go under and disappear from R.L. altogether.Who would you like to see take over the club,Richard Branson er NO,Ken Morrison er NO David Beckham er NO, Steven Hawkins er NO.You really are a self deluded fool if you think anybody is going to come forward and invest to make people like you happy.It does not matter who tries,who fails,who does not try,you will still whinge,win,lose or draw.It is time you retired and stopped posting your idiotic drivel on the forum.You obviously do not like the set up at the Bulls,do not like anything about them so why bother wasting your time posting.Take up fishing,that will keep you occupied,until you start criticising the fish for not liking your bait.
Sense99, I gave you the benefit of the doubt thinking you were all wound up to come out and say the things you said.Now I know I was wrong,you really are an idiot.You can not wait for the end of his tenure,so really you are not a Bulls supporter,you can not wait to see the Bulls go under and disappear from R.L. altogether.Who would you like to see take over the club,Richard Branson er NO,Ken Morrison er NO David Beckham er NO, Steven Hawkins er NO.You really are a self deluded fool if you think anybody is going to come forward and invest to make people like you happy.It does not matter who tries,who fails,who does not try,you will still whinge,win,lose or draw.It is time you retired and stopped posting your idiotic drivel on the forum.You obviously do not like the set up at the Bulls,do not like anything about them so why bother wasting your time posting.Take up fishing,that will keep you occupied,until you start criticising the fish for not liking your bait. spanglishbull.uk
  • Score: 0

4:11pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Sense99 says...

spanglishbull.uk says...
You are the idiot.

I am a Bulls supporter, but I don't like spending my hard earned more watching rubbish week in week out, and not seeing any improvement. And yes I would have expected much more effort to stay in SL.

Yes I am criticising Green as he has done nothing so far except buy the club on the cheap, and appeal for 6 points back. I didn't ask him to buy the club, there were there other people making offers. And if he didn't want to put his hand in his pocket he should not have bought it.

If I am just whinging, may be you can tell me what he has done so far !
spanglishbull.uk says... You are the idiot. I am a Bulls supporter, but I don't like spending my hard earned more watching rubbish week in week out, and not seeing any improvement. And yes I would have expected much more effort to stay in SL. Yes I am criticising Green as he has done nothing so far except buy the club on the cheap, and appeal for 6 points back. I didn't ask him to buy the club, there were there other people making offers. And if he didn't want to put his hand in his pocket he should not have bought it. If I am just whinging, may be you can tell me what he has done so far ! Sense99
  • Score: 1

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