Full steam ahead for Bantams' Morecambe double header

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: City boss Phil Parkinson City boss Phil Parkinson

PHIL Parkinson says City will probably honour their pre-season friendly at Morecambe despite being drawn against the League Two outfit in the Capital One Cup.

Yesterday’s first-round draw handed Parkinson's men a trip to the Globe Arena in the week commencing August 11.

But the Bantams are already scheduled to play Jim Bentley’s side on Saturday, August 2 in their final pre-season fixture.

That could yet lead to City seeking alternative opposition but Parkinson said: “My thoughts are that we will probably keep the friendly as it is.

“It’s not ideal but you can’t help these things. I’ll speak to Jim Bentley about it but at this stage of pre-season we might not be able to get another game on that Saturday.”

Morecambe have made steady progress in recent seasons and Parkinson added: “The next stage for them is getting into the play-offs again.

“They got in the play-offs and lost to Dagenham in 2010, so getting there again will be their aim this coming season.

“Jim has done a good job there and we’ll look forward to playing them. It would be nice to have another League Cup run because it gave us a massive boost in the league when we got promoted two seasons ago.”

Meanwhile, Parkinson paid tribute to Carl McHugh following his move to Plymouth on a free transfer.

The 21-year-old defender made 44 appearances in two seasons for the Bantams after joining the club in August 2012.

Parkinson said: “I had a couple of chats with Carl over the summer and we both agreed it was probably the right time for him to go and push for a starting place elsewhere.

“He has done well for us and is a good player but he needs to nail down a regular place because you can only be a squad player for so long.

“While we never ruled out the possibility of keeping him, if moving means he will play regular first-team football then it’s probably the right move for him.

“We wish him all the best and he will do well for Plymouth.”

Goalkeeper Jon McLaughlin, defender James Meredith and winger Raffaele De Vita are all out contract and their futures remain undecided.

Parkinson added: “I’ve invited De Vita back to do pre-season with us.

“My concern with Raff is that obviously he had a hip problem from Christmas onwards and, even when he was playing towards the end of the season, he was never comfortable.

“I had a chat with him and said he needs to make sure his hip is right first so he can do a few weeks of pre-season with us – but he might well have moved on by then anyway.

“Mez is in Australia at the moment and Jon is also on holiday, but we’ll wait and see what happens.”

Leeds United are expected to unveil former Forest Green boss Dave Hockaday as their new manager today with ex-City assistant manager Junior Lewis as his No2.

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9:11am Wed 18 Jun 14

Pablo says...

I don't see PP's logic with McHugh.

At twenty one there is plenty of time for first team football in the years to come. With Dava's injury record, he'd have had the opportunity of games with us.

It's a shame PP didn't have similar conversations with one or two other squad members.

In my eyes, this decision beggars belief.
I don't see PP's logic with McHugh. At twenty one there is plenty of time for first team football in the years to come. With Dava's injury record, he'd have had the opportunity of games with us. It's a shame PP didn't have similar conversations with one or two other squad members. In my eyes, this decision beggars belief. Pablo
  • Score: -10

10:09am Wed 18 Jun 14

rinkydink says...

Maybe McHugh said.. "where do i lay with new signings/new season" and he was told "squad player, if you want first team football guaranteed I cant promise this here".

Which if another club says likely first team, you'd jump at the chance. All players want to play football.

Heaton, McArdle, Davies, Liddle. There's 4 centre backs there. We are having a small squad we dont REALLY need more. And before you say "left back", he isnt comfortable there and we know it as does PP.

Would have been nice to keep him, but sometimes the grass actually is greener.
Maybe McHugh said.. "where do i lay with new signings/new season" and he was told "squad player, if you want first team football guaranteed I cant promise this here". Which if another club says likely first team, you'd jump at the chance. All players want to play football. Heaton, McArdle, Davies, Liddle. There's 4 centre backs there. We are having a small squad we dont REALLY need more. And before you say "left back", he isnt comfortable there and we know it as does PP. Would have been nice to keep him, but sometimes the grass actually is greener. rinkydink
  • Score: 6

10:12am Wed 18 Jun 14

Peter300 says...

Pablo wrote:
I don't see PP's logic with McHugh.

At twenty one there is plenty of time for first team football in the years to come. With Dava's injury record, he'd have had the opportunity of games with us.

It's a shame PP didn't have similar conversations with one or two other squad members.

In my eyes, this decision beggars belief.
The player wants first team football and not spend time on the bench for a third season at City. Consider the players for once. In my opinion your attitude beggars belief. McHugh has the opportunity for a fresh start and I wish him well. You complain when City do not sign players. You complain when players leave. The only constant in football is change. And Parky has handled it pretty well so far.
[quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: I don't see PP's logic with McHugh. At twenty one there is plenty of time for first team football in the years to come. With Dava's injury record, he'd have had the opportunity of games with us. It's a shame PP didn't have similar conversations with one or two other squad members. In my eyes, this decision beggars belief.[/p][/quote]The player wants first team football and not spend time on the bench for a third season at City. Consider the players for once. In my opinion your attitude beggars belief. McHugh has the opportunity for a fresh start and I wish him well. You complain when City do not sign players. You complain when players leave. The only constant in football is change. And Parky has handled it pretty well so far. Peter300
  • Score: 7

11:00am Wed 18 Jun 14

Pablo says...

Peter300 wrote:
Pablo wrote:
I don't see PP's logic with McHugh.

At twenty one there is plenty of time for first team football in the years to come. With Dava's injury record, he'd have had the opportunity of games with us.

It's a shame PP didn't have similar conversations with one or two other squad members.

In my eyes, this decision beggars belief.
The player wants first team football and not spend time on the bench for a third season at City. Consider the players for once. In my opinion your attitude beggars belief. McHugh has the opportunity for a fresh start and I wish him well. You complain when City do not sign players. You complain when players leave. The only constant in football is change. And Parky has handled it pretty well so far.
McHugh showed his undoubted quality against Premiership opposition eighteen months ago.

Yet another example of promising young talent leaving the club.

Would you rather have kept McHugh or Taylor? If the library is closed, reply tomorrow.
[quote][p][bold]Peter300[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: I don't see PP's logic with McHugh. At twenty one there is plenty of time for first team football in the years to come. With Dava's injury record, he'd have had the opportunity of games with us. It's a shame PP didn't have similar conversations with one or two other squad members. In my eyes, this decision beggars belief.[/p][/quote]The player wants first team football and not spend time on the bench for a third season at City. Consider the players for once. In my opinion your attitude beggars belief. McHugh has the opportunity for a fresh start and I wish him well. You complain when City do not sign players. You complain when players leave. The only constant in football is change. And Parky has handled it pretty well so far.[/p][/quote]McHugh showed his undoubted quality against Premiership opposition eighteen months ago. Yet another example of promising young talent leaving the club. Would you rather have kept McHugh or Taylor? If the library is closed, reply tomorrow. Pablo
  • Score: -6

11:01am Wed 18 Jun 14

Pablo says...

rinkydink wrote:
Maybe McHugh said.. "where do i lay with new signings/new season" and he was told "squad player, if you want first team football guaranteed I cant promise this here".

Which if another club says likely first team, you'd jump at the chance. All players want to play football.

Heaton, McArdle, Davies, Liddle. There's 4 centre backs there. We are having a small squad we dont REALLY need more. And before you say "left back", he isnt comfortable there and we know it as does PP.

Would have been nice to keep him, but sometimes the grass actually is greener.
Heaton is an untried seventeen year old. Liddle is a midfielder.
[quote][p][bold]rinkydink[/bold] wrote: Maybe McHugh said.. "where do i lay with new signings/new season" and he was told "squad player, if you want first team football guaranteed I cant promise this here". Which if another club says likely first team, you'd jump at the chance. All players want to play football. Heaton, McArdle, Davies, Liddle. There's 4 centre backs there. We are having a small squad we dont REALLY need more. And before you say "left back", he isnt comfortable there and we know it as does PP. Would have been nice to keep him, but sometimes the grass actually is greener.[/p][/quote]Heaton is an untried seventeen year old. Liddle is a midfielder. Pablo
  • Score: -2

11:36am Wed 18 Jun 14

whisky1 says...

Pablo wrote:
rinkydink wrote: Maybe McHugh said.. "where do i lay with new signings/new season" and he was told "squad player, if you want first team football guaranteed I cant promise this here". Which if another club says likely first team, you'd jump at the chance. All players want to play football. Heaton, McArdle, Davies, Liddle. There's 4 centre backs there. We are having a small squad we dont REALLY need more. And before you say "left back", he isnt comfortable there and we know it as does PP. Would have been nice to keep him, but sometimes the grass actually is greener.
Heaton is an untried seventeen year old. Liddle is a midfielder.
Liddle has played centre back. McHugh would not be first choice next season and he needs regular footy to develop his career. Good move for the kid and it frees up money for us to strengthen elsewhere. Sensible decision by a sensible manager.
[quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rinkydink[/bold] wrote: Maybe McHugh said.. "where do i lay with new signings/new season" and he was told "squad player, if you want first team football guaranteed I cant promise this here". Which if another club says likely first team, you'd jump at the chance. All players want to play football. Heaton, McArdle, Davies, Liddle. There's 4 centre backs there. We are having a small squad we dont REALLY need more. And before you say "left back", he isnt comfortable there and we know it as does PP. Would have been nice to keep him, but sometimes the grass actually is greener.[/p][/quote]Heaton is an untried seventeen year old. Liddle is a midfielder.[/p][/quote]Liddle has played centre back. McHugh would not be first choice next season and he needs regular footy to develop his career. Good move for the kid and it frees up money for us to strengthen elsewhere. Sensible decision by a sensible manager. whisky1
  • Score: 4

12:10pm Wed 18 Jun 14

Pablo says...

whisky1 wrote:
Pablo wrote:
rinkydink wrote: Maybe McHugh said.. "where do i lay with new signings/new season" and he was told "squad player, if you want first team football guaranteed I cant promise this here". Which if another club says likely first team, you'd jump at the chance. All players want to play football. Heaton, McArdle, Davies, Liddle. There's 4 centre backs there. We are having a small squad we dont REALLY need more. And before you say "left back", he isnt comfortable there and we know it as does PP. Would have been nice to keep him, but sometimes the grass actually is greener.
Heaton is an untried seventeen year old. Liddle is a midfielder.
Liddle has played centre back. McHugh would not be first choice next season and he needs regular footy to develop his career. Good move for the kid and it frees up money for us to strengthen elsewhere. Sensible decision by a sensible manager.
Liddle and Knott will start in midfield. Perhaps Dolan should move on to get regular football next season, and Kennedy, and Taylor, and Yeates, and Heaton, and De Vita..........

Allowing McHugh to leave won't free up much money and, with PP's recent history with recruitment, there's no guarantee we'll do any better.

Come on guys you'll have to come up with better arguments against my comments!
[quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rinkydink[/bold] wrote: Maybe McHugh said.. "where do i lay with new signings/new season" and he was told "squad player, if you want first team football guaranteed I cant promise this here". Which if another club says likely first team, you'd jump at the chance. All players want to play football. Heaton, McArdle, Davies, Liddle. There's 4 centre backs there. We are having a small squad we dont REALLY need more. And before you say "left back", he isnt comfortable there and we know it as does PP. Would have been nice to keep him, but sometimes the grass actually is greener.[/p][/quote]Heaton is an untried seventeen year old. Liddle is a midfielder.[/p][/quote]Liddle has played centre back. McHugh would not be first choice next season and he needs regular footy to develop his career. Good move for the kid and it frees up money for us to strengthen elsewhere. Sensible decision by a sensible manager.[/p][/quote]Liddle and Knott will start in midfield. Perhaps Dolan should move on to get regular football next season, and Kennedy, and Taylor, and Yeates, and Heaton, and De Vita.......... Allowing McHugh to leave won't free up much money and, with PP's recent history with recruitment, there's no guarantee we'll do any better. Come on guys you'll have to come up with better arguments against my comments! Pablo
  • Score: -5

1:43pm Wed 18 Jun 14

northyorksbantam says...

Pablo wrote:
whisky1 wrote:
Pablo wrote:
rinkydink wrote: Maybe McHugh said.. "where do i lay with new signings/new season" and he was told "squad player, if you want first team football guaranteed I cant promise this here". Which if another club says likely first team, you'd jump at the chance. All players want to play football. Heaton, McArdle, Davies, Liddle. There's 4 centre backs there. We are having a small squad we dont REALLY need more. And before you say "left back", he isnt comfortable there and we know it as does PP. Would have been nice to keep him, but sometimes the grass actually is greener.
Heaton is an untried seventeen year old. Liddle is a midfielder.
Liddle has played centre back. McHugh would not be first choice next season and he needs regular footy to develop his career. Good move for the kid and it frees up money for us to strengthen elsewhere. Sensible decision by a sensible manager.
Liddle and Knott will start in midfield. Perhaps Dolan should move on to get regular football next season, and Kennedy, and Taylor, and Yeates, and Heaton, and De Vita.......... Allowing McHugh to leave won't free up much money and, with PP's recent history with recruitment, there's no guarantee we'll do any better. Come on guys you'll have to come up with better arguments against my comments!
I think it mainly boils down to the fact that Parky doesn't rate him enough for L1 football, Parky has put it politely as the lad deserves the respect for his contribution to the last couple of seasons, but sounds to me like they have had a chat and Carl has been told he's nowhere near the 1st team and he needs to challenge for it elsewhere. No contract has been offered which says alot, so he's found one elsewhere. Personally Im with Parky on it and I don't get the hype from some who seem to think he's the next great thing. I think left back has now been ruled out for him due to his alarming lack of pace and although he put in some great performances in one off games in the cup run, injuries apart he was never that close to a regular spot. I think with that in mind he has done the right thing for his career
[quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rinkydink[/bold] wrote: Maybe McHugh said.. "where do i lay with new signings/new season" and he was told "squad player, if you want first team football guaranteed I cant promise this here". Which if another club says likely first team, you'd jump at the chance. All players want to play football. Heaton, McArdle, Davies, Liddle. There's 4 centre backs there. We are having a small squad we dont REALLY need more. And before you say "left back", he isnt comfortable there and we know it as does PP. Would have been nice to keep him, but sometimes the grass actually is greener.[/p][/quote]Heaton is an untried seventeen year old. Liddle is a midfielder.[/p][/quote]Liddle has played centre back. McHugh would not be first choice next season and he needs regular footy to develop his career. Good move for the kid and it frees up money for us to strengthen elsewhere. Sensible decision by a sensible manager.[/p][/quote]Liddle and Knott will start in midfield. Perhaps Dolan should move on to get regular football next season, and Kennedy, and Taylor, and Yeates, and Heaton, and De Vita.......... Allowing McHugh to leave won't free up much money and, with PP's recent history with recruitment, there's no guarantee we'll do any better. Come on guys you'll have to come up with better arguments against my comments![/p][/quote]I think it mainly boils down to the fact that Parky doesn't rate him enough for L1 football, Parky has put it politely as the lad deserves the respect for his contribution to the last couple of seasons, but sounds to me like they have had a chat and Carl has been told he's nowhere near the 1st team and he needs to challenge for it elsewhere. No contract has been offered which says alot, so he's found one elsewhere. Personally Im with Parky on it and I don't get the hype from some who seem to think he's the next great thing. I think left back has now been ruled out for him due to his alarming lack of pace and although he put in some great performances in one off games in the cup run, injuries apart he was never that close to a regular spot. I think with that in mind he has done the right thing for his career northyorksbantam
  • Score: 6

2:08pm Wed 18 Jun 14

Pablo says...

northyorksbantam wrote:
Pablo wrote:
whisky1 wrote:
Pablo wrote:
rinkydink wrote: Maybe McHugh said.. "where do i lay with new signings/new season" and he was told "squad player, if you want first team football guaranteed I cant promise this here". Which if another club says likely first team, you'd jump at the chance. All players want to play football. Heaton, McArdle, Davies, Liddle. There's 4 centre backs there. We are having a small squad we dont REALLY need more. And before you say "left back", he isnt comfortable there and we know it as does PP. Would have been nice to keep him, but sometimes the grass actually is greener.
Heaton is an untried seventeen year old. Liddle is a midfielder.
Liddle has played centre back. McHugh would not be first choice next season and he needs regular footy to develop his career. Good move for the kid and it frees up money for us to strengthen elsewhere. Sensible decision by a sensible manager.
Liddle and Knott will start in midfield. Perhaps Dolan should move on to get regular football next season, and Kennedy, and Taylor, and Yeates, and Heaton, and De Vita.......... Allowing McHugh to leave won't free up much money and, with PP's recent history with recruitment, there's no guarantee we'll do any better. Come on guys you'll have to come up with better arguments against my comments!
I think it mainly boils down to the fact that Parky doesn't rate him enough for L1 football, Parky has put it politely as the lad deserves the respect for his contribution to the last couple of seasons, but sounds to me like they have had a chat and Carl has been told he's nowhere near the 1st team and he needs to challenge for it elsewhere. No contract has been offered which says alot, so he's found one elsewhere. Personally Im with Parky on it and I don't get the hype from some who seem to think he's the next great thing. I think left back has now been ruled out for him due to his alarming lack of pace and although he put in some great performances in one off games in the cup run, injuries apart he was never that close to a regular spot. I think with that in mind he has done the right thing for his career
Yes, PP played Bates ahead of Carl, when Davies was injured last season.

We never won a match when Bates was a regular for a long run of games. I'd question PP's judgement on that one.

My argument is about several older players that PP signed, who are are also "nowhere near the first team". All higher paid than McHugh and unlikely to get any better. A bigger priority was to move them on than to offload a lower paid talented youngster with potential to improve. Our record on developing young talent , in house, (Wells apart), is abysmal.
[quote][p][bold]northyorksbantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rinkydink[/bold] wrote: Maybe McHugh said.. "where do i lay with new signings/new season" and he was told "squad player, if you want first team football guaranteed I cant promise this here". Which if another club says likely first team, you'd jump at the chance. All players want to play football. Heaton, McArdle, Davies, Liddle. There's 4 centre backs there. We are having a small squad we dont REALLY need more. And before you say "left back", he isnt comfortable there and we know it as does PP. Would have been nice to keep him, but sometimes the grass actually is greener.[/p][/quote]Heaton is an untried seventeen year old. Liddle is a midfielder.[/p][/quote]Liddle has played centre back. McHugh would not be first choice next season and he needs regular footy to develop his career. Good move for the kid and it frees up money for us to strengthen elsewhere. Sensible decision by a sensible manager.[/p][/quote]Liddle and Knott will start in midfield. Perhaps Dolan should move on to get regular football next season, and Kennedy, and Taylor, and Yeates, and Heaton, and De Vita.......... Allowing McHugh to leave won't free up much money and, with PP's recent history with recruitment, there's no guarantee we'll do any better. Come on guys you'll have to come up with better arguments against my comments![/p][/quote]I think it mainly boils down to the fact that Parky doesn't rate him enough for L1 football, Parky has put it politely as the lad deserves the respect for his contribution to the last couple of seasons, but sounds to me like they have had a chat and Carl has been told he's nowhere near the 1st team and he needs to challenge for it elsewhere. No contract has been offered which says alot, so he's found one elsewhere. Personally Im with Parky on it and I don't get the hype from some who seem to think he's the next great thing. I think left back has now been ruled out for him due to his alarming lack of pace and although he put in some great performances in one off games in the cup run, injuries apart he was never that close to a regular spot. I think with that in mind he has done the right thing for his career[/p][/quote]Yes, PP played Bates ahead of Carl, when Davies was injured last season. We never won a match when Bates was a regular for a long run of games. I'd question PP's judgement on that one. My argument is about several older players that PP signed, who are are also "nowhere near the first team". All higher paid than McHugh and unlikely to get any better. A bigger priority was to move them on than to offload a lower paid talented youngster with potential to improve. Our record on developing young talent , in house, (Wells apart), is abysmal. Pablo
  • Score: 0

3:28pm Wed 18 Jun 14

whisky1 says...

Pablo wrote:
whisky1 wrote:
Pablo wrote:
rinkydink wrote: Maybe McHugh said.. "where do i lay with new signings/new season" and he was told "squad player, if you want first team football guaranteed I cant promise this here". Which if another club says likely first team, you'd jump at the chance. All players want to play football. Heaton, McArdle, Davies, Liddle. There's 4 centre backs there. We are having a small squad we dont REALLY need more. And before you say "left back", he isnt comfortable there and we know it as does PP. Would have been nice to keep him, but sometimes the grass actually is greener.
Heaton is an untried seventeen year old. Liddle is a midfielder.
Liddle has played centre back. McHugh would not be first choice next season and he needs regular footy to develop his career. Good move for the kid and it frees up money for us to strengthen elsewhere. Sensible decision by a sensible manager.
Liddle and Knott will start in midfield. Perhaps Dolan should move on to get regular football next season, and Kennedy, and Taylor, and Yeates, and Heaton, and De Vita.......... Allowing McHugh to leave won't free up much money and, with PP's recent history with recruitment, there's no guarantee we'll do any better. Come on guys you'll have to come up with better arguments against my comments!
Let me see whose judgement do we trust an internet poster or a manager who has turned around a decade of decline and took us to a Major Cup Final at Wembley (the only manager EVER to do so). Recruitment summer 2013 was not great but that does not negate the overall progress including a creditable finish last season. If you want to accentuate the negative that's up to you however being positive about the club those who run it and play for it is far more rewarding and constructive..
[quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rinkydink[/bold] wrote: Maybe McHugh said.. "where do i lay with new signings/new season" and he was told "squad player, if you want first team football guaranteed I cant promise this here". Which if another club says likely first team, you'd jump at the chance. All players want to play football. Heaton, McArdle, Davies, Liddle. There's 4 centre backs there. We are having a small squad we dont REALLY need more. And before you say "left back", he isnt comfortable there and we know it as does PP. Would have been nice to keep him, but sometimes the grass actually is greener.[/p][/quote]Heaton is an untried seventeen year old. Liddle is a midfielder.[/p][/quote]Liddle has played centre back. McHugh would not be first choice next season and he needs regular footy to develop his career. Good move for the kid and it frees up money for us to strengthen elsewhere. Sensible decision by a sensible manager.[/p][/quote]Liddle and Knott will start in midfield. Perhaps Dolan should move on to get regular football next season, and Kennedy, and Taylor, and Yeates, and Heaton, and De Vita.......... Allowing McHugh to leave won't free up much money and, with PP's recent history with recruitment, there's no guarantee we'll do any better. Come on guys you'll have to come up with better arguments against my comments![/p][/quote]Let me see whose judgement do we trust an internet poster or a manager who has turned around a decade of decline and took us to a Major Cup Final at Wembley (the only manager EVER to do so). Recruitment summer 2013 was not great but that does not negate the overall progress including a creditable finish last season. If you want to accentuate the negative that's up to you however being positive about the club those who run it and play for it is far more rewarding and constructive.. whisky1
  • Score: 2

3:50pm Wed 18 Jun 14

Farsley Bantam says...

whisky1 wrote:
Pablo wrote:
whisky1 wrote:
Pablo wrote:
rinkydink wrote: Maybe McHugh said.. "where do i lay with new signings/new season" and he was told "squad player, if you want first team football guaranteed I cant promise this here". Which if another club says likely first team, you'd jump at the chance. All players want to play football. Heaton, McArdle, Davies, Liddle. There's 4 centre backs there. We are having a small squad we dont REALLY need more. And before you say "left back", he isnt comfortable there and we know it as does PP. Would have been nice to keep him, but sometimes the grass actually is greener.
Heaton is an untried seventeen year old. Liddle is a midfielder.
Liddle has played centre back. McHugh would not be first choice next season and he needs regular footy to develop his career. Good move for the kid and it frees up money for us to strengthen elsewhere. Sensible decision by a sensible manager.
Liddle and Knott will start in midfield. Perhaps Dolan should move on to get regular football next season, and Kennedy, and Taylor, and Yeates, and Heaton, and De Vita.......... Allowing McHugh to leave won't free up much money and, with PP's recent history with recruitment, there's no guarantee we'll do any better. Come on guys you'll have to come up with better arguments against my comments!
Let me see whose judgement do we trust an internet poster or a manager who has turned around a decade of decline and took us to a Major Cup Final at Wembley (the only manager EVER to do so). Recruitment summer 2013 was not great but that does not negate the overall progress including a creditable finish last season. If you want to accentuate the negative that's up to you however being positive about the club those who run it and play for it is far more rewarding and constructive..
To be fair Whisky, Pablo is not being negative for the sake of it and has offered constructive criticism. He's given reasons why he thinks we should keep McHugh and has made some decent points about the likes of Kennedy and De Vita.
It's a bit of a poor do for you to just dismiss this as 'Yeah? Well Parky knows best so stop being negative'
[quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rinkydink[/bold] wrote: Maybe McHugh said.. "where do i lay with new signings/new season" and he was told "squad player, if you want first team football guaranteed I cant promise this here". Which if another club says likely first team, you'd jump at the chance. All players want to play football. Heaton, McArdle, Davies, Liddle. There's 4 centre backs there. We are having a small squad we dont REALLY need more. And before you say "left back", he isnt comfortable there and we know it as does PP. Would have been nice to keep him, but sometimes the grass actually is greener.[/p][/quote]Heaton is an untried seventeen year old. Liddle is a midfielder.[/p][/quote]Liddle has played centre back. McHugh would not be first choice next season and he needs regular footy to develop his career. Good move for the kid and it frees up money for us to strengthen elsewhere. Sensible decision by a sensible manager.[/p][/quote]Liddle and Knott will start in midfield. Perhaps Dolan should move on to get regular football next season, and Kennedy, and Taylor, and Yeates, and Heaton, and De Vita.......... Allowing McHugh to leave won't free up much money and, with PP's recent history with recruitment, there's no guarantee we'll do any better. Come on guys you'll have to come up with better arguments against my comments![/p][/quote]Let me see whose judgement do we trust an internet poster or a manager who has turned around a decade of decline and took us to a Major Cup Final at Wembley (the only manager EVER to do so). Recruitment summer 2013 was not great but that does not negate the overall progress including a creditable finish last season. If you want to accentuate the negative that's up to you however being positive about the club those who run it and play for it is far more rewarding and constructive..[/p][/quote]To be fair Whisky, Pablo is not being negative for the sake of it and has offered constructive criticism. He's given reasons why he thinks we should keep McHugh and has made some decent points about the likes of Kennedy and De Vita. It's a bit of a poor do for you to just dismiss this as 'Yeah? Well Parky knows best so stop being negative' Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 0

4:23pm Wed 18 Jun 14

whisky1 says...

Farsley Bantam wrote:
whisky1 wrote:
Pablo wrote:
whisky1 wrote:
Pablo wrote:
rinkydink wrote: Maybe McHugh said.. "where do i lay with new signings/new season" and he was told "squad player, if you want first team football guaranteed I cant promise this here". Which if another club says likely first team, you'd jump at the chance. All players want to play football. Heaton, McArdle, Davies, Liddle. There's 4 centre backs there. We are having a small squad we dont REALLY need more. And before you say "left back", he isnt comfortable there and we know it as does PP. Would have been nice to keep him, but sometimes the grass actually is greener.
Heaton is an untried seventeen year old. Liddle is a midfielder.
Liddle has played centre back. McHugh would not be first choice next season and he needs regular footy to develop his career. Good move for the kid and it frees up money for us to strengthen elsewhere. Sensible decision by a sensible manager.
Liddle and Knott will start in midfield. Perhaps Dolan should move on to get regular football next season, and Kennedy, and Taylor, and Yeates, and Heaton, and De Vita.......... Allowing McHugh to leave won't free up much money and, with PP's recent history with recruitment, there's no guarantee we'll do any better. Come on guys you'll have to come up with better arguments against my comments!
Let me see whose judgement do we trust an internet poster or a manager who has turned around a decade of decline and took us to a Major Cup Final at Wembley (the only manager EVER to do so). Recruitment summer 2013 was not great but that does not negate the overall progress including a creditable finish last season. If you want to accentuate the negative that's up to you however being positive about the club those who run it and play for it is far more rewarding and constructive..
To be fair Whisky, Pablo is not being negative for the sake of it and has offered constructive criticism. He's given reasons why he thinks we should keep McHugh and has made some decent points about the likes of Kennedy and De Vita. It's a bit of a poor do for you to just dismiss this as 'Yeah? Well Parky knows best so stop being negative'
If you think the judgements expressed on here have any sort of equivalence with those who work in the world of footy then fair do's!..folk can have all sorts of wacky views but as SUPPORTERS you would hope that those opinions are expressed with some appreciation firstly that your Manager is just a bit more informed than you are and that it is better for the good of the club to try to see the positives. The McHugh transfer looks to be a no brainer for the boy and PP no doubt said he could not guarantee him game time. That's what you would expect from a decent bloke and a good man manager.
[quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rinkydink[/bold] wrote: Maybe McHugh said.. "where do i lay with new signings/new season" and he was told "squad player, if you want first team football guaranteed I cant promise this here". Which if another club says likely first team, you'd jump at the chance. All players want to play football. Heaton, McArdle, Davies, Liddle. There's 4 centre backs there. We are having a small squad we dont REALLY need more. And before you say "left back", he isnt comfortable there and we know it as does PP. Would have been nice to keep him, but sometimes the grass actually is greener.[/p][/quote]Heaton is an untried seventeen year old. Liddle is a midfielder.[/p][/quote]Liddle has played centre back. McHugh would not be first choice next season and he needs regular footy to develop his career. Good move for the kid and it frees up money for us to strengthen elsewhere. Sensible decision by a sensible manager.[/p][/quote]Liddle and Knott will start in midfield. Perhaps Dolan should move on to get regular football next season, and Kennedy, and Taylor, and Yeates, and Heaton, and De Vita.......... Allowing McHugh to leave won't free up much money and, with PP's recent history with recruitment, there's no guarantee we'll do any better. Come on guys you'll have to come up with better arguments against my comments![/p][/quote]Let me see whose judgement do we trust an internet poster or a manager who has turned around a decade of decline and took us to a Major Cup Final at Wembley (the only manager EVER to do so). Recruitment summer 2013 was not great but that does not negate the overall progress including a creditable finish last season. If you want to accentuate the negative that's up to you however being positive about the club those who run it and play for it is far more rewarding and constructive..[/p][/quote]To be fair Whisky, Pablo is not being negative for the sake of it and has offered constructive criticism. He's given reasons why he thinks we should keep McHugh and has made some decent points about the likes of Kennedy and De Vita. It's a bit of a poor do for you to just dismiss this as 'Yeah? Well Parky knows best so stop being negative'[/p][/quote]If you think the judgements expressed on here have any sort of equivalence with those who work in the world of footy then fair do's!..folk can have all sorts of wacky views but as SUPPORTERS you would hope that those opinions are expressed with some appreciation firstly that your Manager is just a bit more informed than you are and that it is better for the good of the club to try to see the positives. The McHugh transfer looks to be a no brainer for the boy and PP no doubt said he could not guarantee him game time. That's what you would expect from a decent bloke and a good man manager. whisky1
  • Score: 2

4:39pm Wed 18 Jun 14

whisky1 says...

whisky1 wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
whisky1 wrote:
Pablo wrote:
whisky1 wrote:
Pablo wrote:
rinkydink wrote: Maybe McHugh said.. "where do i lay with new signings/new season" and he was told "squad player, if you want first team football guaranteed I cant promise this here". Which if another club says likely first team, you'd jump at the chance. All players want to play football. Heaton, McArdle, Davies, Liddle. There's 4 centre backs there. We are having a small squad we dont REALLY need more. And before you say "left back", he isnt comfortable there and we know it as does PP. Would have been nice to keep him, but sometimes the grass actually is greener.
Heaton is an untried seventeen year old. Liddle is a midfielder.
Liddle has played centre back. McHugh would not be first choice next season and he needs regular footy to develop his career. Good move for the kid and it frees up money for us to strengthen elsewhere. Sensible decision by a sensible manager.
Liddle and Knott will start in midfield. Perhaps Dolan should move on to get regular football next season, and Kennedy, and Taylor, and Yeates, and Heaton, and De Vita.......... Allowing McHugh to leave won't free up much money and, with PP's recent history with recruitment, there's no guarantee we'll do any better. Come on guys you'll have to come up with better arguments against my comments!
Let me see whose judgement do we trust an internet poster or a manager who has turned around a decade of decline and took us to a Major Cup Final at Wembley (the only manager EVER to do so). Recruitment summer 2013 was not great but that does not negate the overall progress including a creditable finish last season. If you want to accentuate the negative that's up to you however being positive about the club those who run it and play for it is far more rewarding and constructive..
To be fair Whisky, Pablo is not being negative for the sake of it and has offered constructive criticism. He's given reasons why he thinks we should keep McHugh and has made some decent points about the likes of Kennedy and De Vita. It's a bit of a poor do for you to just dismiss this as 'Yeah? Well Parky knows best so stop being negative'
If you think the judgements expressed on here have any sort of equivalence with those who work in the world of footy then fair do's!..folk can have all sorts of wacky views but as SUPPORTERS you would hope that those opinions are expressed with some appreciation firstly that your Manager is just a bit more informed than you are and that it is better for the good of the club to try to see the positives. The McHugh transfer looks to be a no brainer for the boy and PP no doubt said he could not guarantee him game time. That's what you would expect from a decent bloke and a good man manager.
postscript What is constructive about it? The decision is expressed as beggaring belief...difficult to see any effort to form a balanced view. Pablo also seems to want to denigrate PPs recruitment policy generally which looks pretty daft given recent success.
[quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rinkydink[/bold] wrote: Maybe McHugh said.. "where do i lay with new signings/new season" and he was told "squad player, if you want first team football guaranteed I cant promise this here". Which if another club says likely first team, you'd jump at the chance. All players want to play football. Heaton, McArdle, Davies, Liddle. There's 4 centre backs there. We are having a small squad we dont REALLY need more. And before you say "left back", he isnt comfortable there and we know it as does PP. Would have been nice to keep him, but sometimes the grass actually is greener.[/p][/quote]Heaton is an untried seventeen year old. Liddle is a midfielder.[/p][/quote]Liddle has played centre back. McHugh would not be first choice next season and he needs regular footy to develop his career. Good move for the kid and it frees up money for us to strengthen elsewhere. Sensible decision by a sensible manager.[/p][/quote]Liddle and Knott will start in midfield. Perhaps Dolan should move on to get regular football next season, and Kennedy, and Taylor, and Yeates, and Heaton, and De Vita.......... Allowing McHugh to leave won't free up much money and, with PP's recent history with recruitment, there's no guarantee we'll do any better. Come on guys you'll have to come up with better arguments against my comments![/p][/quote]Let me see whose judgement do we trust an internet poster or a manager who has turned around a decade of decline and took us to a Major Cup Final at Wembley (the only manager EVER to do so). Recruitment summer 2013 was not great but that does not negate the overall progress including a creditable finish last season. If you want to accentuate the negative that's up to you however being positive about the club those who run it and play for it is far more rewarding and constructive..[/p][/quote]To be fair Whisky, Pablo is not being negative for the sake of it and has offered constructive criticism. He's given reasons why he thinks we should keep McHugh and has made some decent points about the likes of Kennedy and De Vita. It's a bit of a poor do for you to just dismiss this as 'Yeah? Well Parky knows best so stop being negative'[/p][/quote]If you think the judgements expressed on here have any sort of equivalence with those who work in the world of footy then fair do's!..folk can have all sorts of wacky views but as SUPPORTERS you would hope that those opinions are expressed with some appreciation firstly that your Manager is just a bit more informed than you are and that it is better for the good of the club to try to see the positives. The McHugh transfer looks to be a no brainer for the boy and PP no doubt said he could not guarantee him game time. That's what you would expect from a decent bloke and a good man manager.[/p][/quote]postscript What is constructive about it? The decision is expressed as beggaring belief...difficult to see any effort to form a balanced view. Pablo also seems to want to denigrate PPs recruitment policy generally which looks pretty daft given recent success. whisky1
  • Score: 1

5:55pm Wed 18 Jun 14

Statler4 says...

Pablo wrote:
whisky1 wrote:
Pablo wrote:
rinkydink wrote: Maybe McHugh said.. "where do i lay with new signings/new season" and he was told "squad player, if you want first team football guaranteed I cant promise this here". Which if another club says likely first team, you'd jump at the chance. All players want to play football. Heaton, McArdle, Davies, Liddle. There's 4 centre backs there. We are having a small squad we dont REALLY need more. And before you say "left back", he isnt comfortable there and we know it as does PP. Would have been nice to keep him, but sometimes the grass actually is greener.
Heaton is an untried seventeen year old. Liddle is a midfielder.
Liddle has played centre back. McHugh would not be first choice next season and he needs regular footy to develop his career. Good move for the kid and it frees up money for us to strengthen elsewhere. Sensible decision by a sensible manager.
Liddle and Knott will start in midfield. Perhaps Dolan should move on to get regular football next season, and Kennedy, and Taylor, and Yeates, and Heaton, and De Vita..........

Allowing McHugh to leave won't free up much money and, with PP's recent history with recruitment, there's no guarantee we'll do any better.

Come on guys you'll have to come up with better arguments against my comments!
He's signed for Plymouth Argyle not Real Madrid.
[quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rinkydink[/bold] wrote: Maybe McHugh said.. "where do i lay with new signings/new season" and he was told "squad player, if you want first team football guaranteed I cant promise this here". Which if another club says likely first team, you'd jump at the chance. All players want to play football. Heaton, McArdle, Davies, Liddle. There's 4 centre backs there. We are having a small squad we dont REALLY need more. And before you say "left back", he isnt comfortable there and we know it as does PP. Would have been nice to keep him, but sometimes the grass actually is greener.[/p][/quote]Heaton is an untried seventeen year old. Liddle is a midfielder.[/p][/quote]Liddle has played centre back. McHugh would not be first choice next season and he needs regular footy to develop his career. Good move for the kid and it frees up money for us to strengthen elsewhere. Sensible decision by a sensible manager.[/p][/quote]Liddle and Knott will start in midfield. Perhaps Dolan should move on to get regular football next season, and Kennedy, and Taylor, and Yeates, and Heaton, and De Vita.......... Allowing McHugh to leave won't free up much money and, with PP's recent history with recruitment, there's no guarantee we'll do any better. Come on guys you'll have to come up with better arguments against my comments![/p][/quote]He's signed for Plymouth Argyle not Real Madrid. Statler4
  • Score: 1

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