Francis Cummins bemoans errors as Bradford Bulls’ Challenge Cup final dream crushed by Warrington

Adrian Purtell fails to stop former Bull Ryan Atkins crossing for one of the Wolves’ eight tries

Adrian Purtell fails to stop former Bull Ryan Atkins crossing for one of the Wolves’ eight tries

First published in Sport Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Photograph of the Author by , Bradford Bulls Reporter

Francis Cummins admitted the Bulls made too many errors during yesterday’s thumping 46-10 defeat to Warrington in the Tetley’s Challenge Cup.

The Wolves outscored Bradford by eight tries to two in front of 5,064 fans – the lowest quarter-final crowd of the weekend.

The Bulls only trailed 18-4 at the break and Luke George’s try shortly after the restart encouraged hopes of a fightback during a second half in which owner Marc Green joined fans on the terraces.

But Warrington, who have lifted the famous old trophy three times under Tony Smith since 2009 and will now face his old club Leeds in the semi-finals, went on to score five more tries to underline the gulf in class between the sides.

Head coach Cummins said: “Warrington played well but we produced a lot of yardage errors in the first and second half.

“We had a lot of energy in the first half but came up with some simple errors and compounded them, which caught up with us in the second half.

“In warm conditions, if you are allowing the opposition repeat sets and field position, you are having to work twice as hard, although I thought our systems were really good defensively in the first half.

“We’re really improving but we made a couple of errors and they punished us – and that’s what Warrington are like.

“In the second half, you could see us ebbing away and we tried to come up with a few different things which went against us.”

Cummins also refused to pin any blame on the officiating of referee Phil Bentham, despite controversy in the build-up to Gene Ormsby’s 53rd-minute score.

He added: “Sometimes you get them, sometimes you don’t, but you’ve got to be able to cope with these things.”

This week looks set to prove a pivotal one in the Bulls’ season as they await the outcome of their appeal against being docked six points for entering administration.

They then face a trip to Salford on Sunday and it is to be hoped that a decision from the independent sporting sanctions appeal panel will rule on the points decision before then.

Cummins said: “It is out of my hands and if it goes on for another two weeks then so be it. That hasn’t affected things today so it’s not an issue for me.”

The Bulls boss said on-loan Hull forward Jay Pitts had sustained a knock to his ankle but added: “We don’t think it’s too serious but I wasn’t prepared to take any risks.

“With the scoreline as it was, the game had probably gone but we’re confident he will be okay for next week.”

Widnes face Castleford in the other semi-final with the ties to be played on the weekend of August 9-10.

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7:43am Mon 9 Jun 14

northern pig says...

Yeah franny,same mistakes every week.Unforced errors,not respecting possession and poor defence etc.Simply not good enough.
Yeah franny,same mistakes every week.Unforced errors,not respecting possession and poor defence etc.Simply not good enough. northern pig
  • Score: 8

8:16am Mon 9 Jun 14

axelf1963 says...

Season starts here :-)
Season starts here :-) axelf1963
  • Score: -3

8:19am Mon 9 Jun 14

A650 says...

We're going to need to be a lot better if we're going to beat Salford and Hull KR. To many mistakes, wrong options, passive defence, predictable attack. Good effort from Blythe but not matched by many of his teammates.
We're going to need to be a lot better if we're going to beat Salford and Hull KR. To many mistakes, wrong options, passive defence, predictable attack. Good effort from Blythe but not matched by many of his teammates. A650
  • Score: 11

8:45am Mon 9 Jun 14

caledonia15 says...

"We're really improving" - i suppose the fact that we didn't leak in 50+ points yesterday is one improvement, i am struggling to see any other "improvements" on the field of play. The defensive line yesterday was a shambles, the gaps left for such as Myler, ,Atkins etc with the own line defense was school boy stuff, shocking. I really am struggling to see any light at the end of the tunnel now, some of our "players" appear to have thrown in the towel, come this weekend we could well be relegated, lose at Salford and Wakefield beat London that looks like the end to me.
"We're really improving" - i suppose the fact that we didn't leak in 50+ points yesterday is one improvement, i am struggling to see any other "improvements" on the field of play. The defensive line yesterday was a shambles, the gaps left for such as Myler, ,Atkins etc with the own line defense was school boy stuff, shocking. I really am struggling to see any light at the end of the tunnel now, some of our "players" appear to have thrown in the towel, come this weekend we could well be relegated, lose at Salford and Wakefield beat London that looks like the end to me. caledonia15
  • Score: 5

8:50am Mon 9 Jun 14

haterugbysometimes says...

The comment from Luke Gale at the end of the first half was the best 'it's only 18-4 still in it', well you weren't were you, Luke George was awful and shouldn't have been taken off; they were totally flat and as for Cummins should be coach of the year now that is laughable; embarrassing doesn't go far enough to what I paid to go and see yesterday AWFUL you should be ashamed of yourselves
The comment from Luke Gale at the end of the first half was the best 'it's only 18-4 still in it', well you weren't were you, Luke George was awful and shouldn't have been taken off; they were totally flat and as for Cummins should be coach of the year now that is laughable; embarrassing doesn't go far enough to what I paid to go and see yesterday AWFUL you should be ashamed of yourselves haterugbysometimes
  • Score: 0

8:51am Mon 9 Jun 14

haterugbysometimes says...

that should have said about Luke George SHOULD HAVE been taken off!!
that should have said about Luke George SHOULD HAVE been taken off!! haterugbysometimes
  • Score: -1

9:02am Mon 9 Jun 14

spanglishbull.uk says...

Got to admit,if that was an improvement feel sorry for all you fans who have watched that all season.The Bulls had nothing for me except effort.That will not win games against the top teams.Half backs too sloe,no skill,forwards too lightweight,no skill.Warrington were no great shakes but then did not need to be.I have watched all four games this weekend and the only team out of the eight who the Bulls would have given a game was Keighley.Even then they would have struggled to beat them with yesterdays performance.However I will be there in July with my mate Axel to watch them.
Got to admit,if that was an improvement feel sorry for all you fans who have watched that all season.The Bulls had nothing for me except effort.That will not win games against the top teams.Half backs too sloe,no skill,forwards too lightweight,no skill.Warrington were no great shakes but then did not need to be.I have watched all four games this weekend and the only team out of the eight who the Bulls would have given a game was Keighley.Even then they would have struggled to beat them with yesterdays performance.However I will be there in July with my mate Axel to watch them. spanglishbull.uk
  • Score: 4

9:24am Mon 9 Jun 14

Old Dave says...

Its the haves versus the have nots!
I'm not into excuses but give us Scruton, Carvell and 500k and it could have been different. they absolutely bossed us up front, where we had Chev trying his heart out against much bigger men.
This current Bulls squad is the result of the financial constraints placed upon the club. It is what it is. I do not think for one minute that the players have stopped trying. I just think that they are not as good as the opposing p[layers they are up against.

How many of this current squad would get into another Super League team? The ones that could, already are, having left to help balance the books.
If I am honest. This next week could be the most important in the last 50 years for this club. Only all six points back, and a win at Salford will give us realistic hope of avoiding relegation.
Its the haves versus the have nots! I'm not into excuses but give us Scruton, Carvell and 500k and it could have been different. they absolutely bossed us up front, where we had Chev trying his heart out against much bigger men. This current Bulls squad is the result of the financial constraints placed upon the club. It is what it is. I do not think for one minute that the players have stopped trying. I just think that they are not as good as the opposing p[layers they are up against. How many of this current squad would get into another Super League team? The ones that could, already are, having left to help balance the books. If I am honest. This next week could be the most important in the last 50 years for this club. Only all six points back, and a win at Salford will give us realistic hope of avoiding relegation. Old Dave
  • Score: 14

9:26am Mon 9 Jun 14

nosher says...

Having watched most of this years home games. Me and several retired amatuer players that I stand with all thought yesterday was an improvement in effort. We were in the game for 50 minutes and the score flattered. The only error I saw from George, was not going closer to the posts for his try, but it was converted anyway. He offers more than Foster with the ball. Pitts was our best player by some distance. IMO blythe was our worst player and he got MOM. Its all down to opinions LOL
Having watched most of this years home games. Me and several retired amatuer players that I stand with all thought yesterday was an improvement in effort. We were in the game for 50 minutes and the score flattered. The only error I saw from George, was not going closer to the posts for his try, but it was converted anyway. He offers more than Foster with the ball. Pitts was our best player by some distance. IMO blythe was our worst player and he got MOM. Its all down to opinions LOL nosher
  • Score: 11

9:56am Mon 9 Jun 14

bullybullman says...

We are finished as a Super league club & I doubt the intentions of Marc Moore. Everything is wrong at our club from the Root to the branch. The only jewel left in our crown are our supporters who it seems now are leaving in droves.

The only way things will recover is to stop kinding ourselves about 6 points back & super league survival, plan for the Championship next year get shut of Franny & put together a good value season ticket package.
We are finished as a Super league club & I doubt the intentions of Marc Moore. Everything is wrong at our club from the Root to the branch. The only jewel left in our crown are our supporters who it seems now are leaving in droves. The only way things will recover is to stop kinding ourselves about 6 points back & super league survival, plan for the Championship next year get shut of Franny & put together a good value season ticket package. bullybullman
  • Score: 6

10:00am Mon 9 Jun 14

axelf1963 says...

If it was a 50 minute game they competed, Warrington themselves made far too many errors with the ball ,
Spangles would get a game in the front row going on that performance.
No excuses now most players played so can't blame it on that.
If it was a 50 minute game they competed, Warrington themselves made far too many errors with the ball , Spangles would get a game in the front row going on that performance. No excuses now most players played so can't blame it on that. axelf1963
  • Score: 0

10:03am Mon 9 Jun 14

Van Bellen's Baby says...

nosher wrote:
Having watched most of this years home games. Me and several retired amatuer players that I stand with all thought yesterday was an improvement in effort. We were in the game for 50 minutes and the score flattered. The only error I saw from George, was not going closer to the posts for his try, but it was converted anyway. He offers more than Foster with the ball. Pitts was our best player by some distance. IMO blythe was our worst player and he got MOM. Its all down to opinions LOL
Good assessment Nosher. Given that we gave half a dozen penalties away in the first half it shows effort of sorts that the scoreline remained reasonable for as long as it did. Agree about Foster and George, although the former isn't necessarily deployed as an out and out winger, but George has size and pace and both is better than just one of those. I rate Purtell but am I missing something with regards to his centre partner? Is Adam Henry putting in the hard yards largely unnoticed or is he virtually anonymous?
[quote][p][bold]nosher[/bold] wrote: Having watched most of this years home games. Me and several retired amatuer players that I stand with all thought yesterday was an improvement in effort. We were in the game for 50 minutes and the score flattered. The only error I saw from George, was not going closer to the posts for his try, but it was converted anyway. He offers more than Foster with the ball. Pitts was our best player by some distance. IMO blythe was our worst player and he got MOM. Its all down to opinions LOL[/p][/quote]Good assessment Nosher. Given that we gave half a dozen penalties away in the first half it shows effort of sorts that the scoreline remained reasonable for as long as it did. Agree about Foster and George, although the former isn't necessarily deployed as an out and out winger, but George has size and pace and both is better than just one of those. I rate Purtell but am I missing something with regards to his centre partner? Is Adam Henry putting in the hard yards largely unnoticed or is he virtually anonymous? Van Bellen's Baby
  • Score: 4

10:17am Mon 9 Jun 14

fedupwiththeBS says...

I think Blythe got MOM because he managed to play all 80 without getting injured which for him is a miracle.

Lets stop going on about money restraints; when Green got the Club he had to show proof of funds; so my question is where are there and if he is not going to spend now to save the season then we are down. Lets not have the usual retort that there are no players available. Money talks is SL and there are enough players that would jump ship if the fee was right and their clubs would let them go.
I think Blythe got MOM because he managed to play all 80 without getting injured which for him is a miracle. Lets stop going on about money restraints; when Green got the Club he had to show proof of funds; so my question is where are there and if he is not going to spend now to save the season then we are down. Lets not have the usual retort that there are no players available. Money talks is SL and there are enough players that would jump ship if the fee was right and their clubs would let them go. fedupwiththeBS
  • Score: 4

10:21am Mon 9 Jun 14

oswald777 says...

If we are going to be honest about it, getting six points back won't change a thing, we'll still go down, the team are terrible, absolutely terrible.
If we are going to be honest about it, getting six points back won't change a thing, we'll still go down, the team are terrible, absolutely terrible. oswald777
  • Score: 1

10:34am Mon 9 Jun 14

Videoref says...

Think Adam Henry is a waste of space and brings nothing to the party except errors
The blatant problem is FRONT ROW needs real aggressive props who can break through followed by some half-backs who can launch a semblence of an attack plan (with speed) when we signed Manukafoa hevwas supposed to be a rampaging prop with a mean offload in the tackle-when are we going to see that then? Usually 3 yards and stop &wait to be tackled
The upshot of the situation is not that we need some new players but we need virtually ALL new players.
With the Aussies clearly leaving at the end of the season (road) the only ones I would keep would be O'brian, Donaldson, Addy, maybe George & Fakir-they would probably go well with some decent mentors.
Moreover, as I still blame this weeks oppositions coach as the original root of all our woes, please don't let it be them that put the final nail in our coffin.
Think Adam Henry is a waste of space and brings nothing to the party except errors The blatant problem is FRONT ROW needs real aggressive props who can break through followed by some half-backs who can launch a semblence of an attack plan (with speed) when we signed Manukafoa hevwas supposed to be a rampaging prop with a mean offload in the tackle-when are we going to see that then? Usually 3 yards and stop &wait to be tackled The upshot of the situation is not that we need some new players but we need virtually ALL new players. With the Aussies clearly leaving at the end of the season (road) the only ones I would keep would be O'brian, Donaldson, Addy, maybe George & Fakir-they would probably go well with some decent mentors. Moreover, as I still blame this weeks oppositions coach as the original root of all our woes, please don't let it be them that put the final nail in our coffin. Videoref
  • Score: 1

10:38am Mon 9 Jun 14

blue marlin says...

went to the game and for what its worth my thoughts were,
plenty of effort, but as with the season so for too many silly errors, the one that sticks in my mind was when warrington kicked off we let it go dead as 3 players failed to put a name on it.
no pace at all in general and a round the play the ball area.
no body running onto the ball.
Dont for get we beat warrington not so many weeks ago and here only addition to there team was rihie myler
Also T and A do we have to see a picture of atkins scoring its a bradford paper.
went to the game and for what its worth my thoughts were, plenty of effort, but as with the season so for too many silly errors, the one that sticks in my mind was when warrington kicked off we let it go dead as 3 players failed to put a name on it. no pace at all in general and a round the play the ball area. no body running onto the ball. Dont for get we beat warrington not so many weeks ago and here only addition to there team was rihie myler Also T and A do we have to see a picture of atkins scoring its a bradford paper. blue marlin
  • Score: 3

10:56am Mon 9 Jun 14

A650 says...

It is all about opinions. I thought Luke George went well. He could do a bit more work but in all he was alright. I also thought Blythe worked very hard and did ok defensively considering he was covering for the arm grabbing pattercake defence inside him a lot of the time.

Warrington got us backpedalling due to the size and mobility of their pack. That left us unable to generate any line speed as they were on us before we could get set. We were being out muscled and unable to dominate the collision. Chris Hill was swatting defenders away like flies and Michael Moan-a-thon exploited the gaps.

They picked up Anthony England from the Championship. Saints picked up a great prop from Batley in Walmsley. We need to look in the same places and start planning for the future. We need a real injection of size and power up front whatever league we’re in next year.
It is all about opinions. I thought Luke George went well. He could do a bit more work but in all he was alright. I also thought Blythe worked very hard and did ok defensively considering he was covering for the arm grabbing pattercake defence inside him a lot of the time. Warrington got us backpedalling due to the size and mobility of their pack. That left us unable to generate any line speed as they were on us before we could get set. We were being out muscled and unable to dominate the collision. Chris Hill was swatting defenders away like flies and Michael Moan-a-thon exploited the gaps. They picked up Anthony England from the Championship. Saints picked up a great prop from Batley in Walmsley. We need to look in the same places and start planning for the future. We need a real injection of size and power up front whatever league we’re in next year. A650
  • Score: 6

11:20am Mon 9 Jun 14

The Fat Lady Sings says...

I said at the start of the year a good coach turns average into a lot better. Stop the sentiment. Agar has left Wakefield to become an assistant coach, That is all Mr Cummins is. Get real. Addy at stand-off instead of Gaskell! Cummins to the Leeds Academy next year. Business doesn't have a place for sentiment. MacNamara was a loser, Mr Cummins is. End of.
I said at the start of the year a good coach turns average into a lot better. Stop the sentiment. Agar has left Wakefield to become an assistant coach, That is all Mr Cummins is. Get real. Addy at stand-off instead of Gaskell! Cummins to the Leeds Academy next year. Business doesn't have a place for sentiment. MacNamara was a loser, Mr Cummins is. End of. The Fat Lady Sings
  • Score: 9

11:22am Mon 9 Jun 14

nochanceagain says...

We'd have been better not scoring in the first half would have been 12-0 at half time we scored 4 points then conceeded 6 from the kick off! As we do every week not pouching a flaming kick off, I noticed in the second half they moved Gale onto the touchline for kick offs and put Elliot Kear to where Gale was.
Gales progression this year has been from not being able to tackle, to not being able to catch a kick off and now not being able to pass! Danny Addy is struggling at 6 as there is no pace with him or Gale desperatley need Kearney back to add some danger, both tries we scored were opportunistic and other than those never actually threatened the line.
Any news on Kafusi is far and away the best prop for the last month, any ideas on how to make Sidlow actually run?
Chev is not a prop he's far too lightweight, this month is pivotal with Salford and Hull KR we need to pick up 4 points there and without some real improvement then it won't happen.
p.s. Danny practise short kicks offs on the training ground not on national tv!
We'd have been better not scoring in the first half would have been 12-0 at half time we scored 4 points then conceeded 6 from the kick off! As we do every week not pouching a flaming kick off, I noticed in the second half they moved Gale onto the touchline for kick offs and put Elliot Kear to where Gale was. Gales progression this year has been from not being able to tackle, to not being able to catch a kick off and now not being able to pass! Danny Addy is struggling at 6 as there is no pace with him or Gale desperatley need Kearney back to add some danger, both tries we scored were opportunistic and other than those never actually threatened the line. Any news on Kafusi is far and away the best prop for the last month, any ideas on how to make Sidlow actually run? Chev is not a prop he's far too lightweight, this month is pivotal with Salford and Hull KR we need to pick up 4 points there and without some real improvement then it won't happen. p.s. Danny practise short kicks offs on the training ground not on national tv! nochanceagain
  • Score: 5

11:37am Mon 9 Jun 14

nosher says...

Whatever Marc green is or isn't he had the guts to come and stand on the terraces with the supporters for 20 mins. That is something I have never seen from any previous. It may have been a publicity stunt but he stuck his neck out in what could have been a tricky situation.
Whatever Marc green is or isn't he had the guts to come and stand on the terraces with the supporters for 20 mins. That is something I have never seen from any previous. It may have been a publicity stunt but he stuck his neck out in what could have been a tricky situation. nosher
  • Score: 4

11:43am Mon 9 Jun 14

The Fat Lady Sings says...

I have a soft spot for Addy, he is a lot better then he is being made to look. Cummins is making appear like a pratt. I'd sooner get rid of Cummins than Addy.
I have a soft spot for Addy, he is a lot better then he is being made to look. Cummins is making appear like a pratt. I'd sooner get rid of Cummins than Addy. The Fat Lady Sings
  • Score: 8

12:24pm Mon 9 Jun 14

axelf1963 says...

He was looking for you nosher, I told him last week you were loaded.
He was looking for you nosher, I told him last week you were loaded. axelf1963
  • Score: -1

12:36pm Mon 9 Jun 14

bartsbull says...

We competed for a good twenty minutes it seems as soon as the oposition scores we go to pieces

We need a general on the park and a good scrum Half let the young guy from the under 19s have a shot he is very quck of the mark put gale at stand off and put gaskell to full back
Let Adam Obrien start at Hooker and let him play his game coming out from dummy half he seems to have been lacking in that in the last few games

Then let Danny go back to his normal position and put players back where they play there normal game
But saying all this the refs and linesmen need a good rollocking how can so many blatent forward passes be missed Roby needs to go to spec savers he is hopeless as a ref and a linesman the quality of the officials needs some serious attentions it is spoiling the game for everyone
We competed for a good twenty minutes it seems as soon as the oposition scores we go to pieces We need a general on the park and a good scrum Half let the young guy from the under 19s have a shot he is very quck of the mark put gale at stand off and put gaskell to full back Let Adam Obrien start at Hooker and let him play his game coming out from dummy half he seems to have been lacking in that in the last few games Then let Danny go back to his normal position and put players back where they play there normal game But saying all this the refs and linesmen need a good rollocking how can so many blatent forward passes be missed Roby needs to go to spec savers he is hopeless as a ref and a linesman the quality of the officials needs some serious attentions it is spoiling the game for everyone bartsbull
  • Score: 5

12:53pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Parz says...

fedupwiththeBS wrote:
I think Blythe got MOM because he managed to play all 80 without getting injured which for him is a miracle. Lets stop going on about money restraints; when Green got the Club he had to show proof of funds; so my question is where are there and if he is not going to spend now to save the season then we are down. Lets not have the usual retort that there are no players available. Money talks is SL and there are enough players that would jump ship if the fee was right and their clubs would let them go.
"Lets not have the usual retort that there are no players available. Money talks is SL and there are enough players that would jump ship if the fee was right and their clubs would let them go."

If that's the case, that money is all you need, then why are Salford 4th from bottom? Why don't they have a team full of Superstars, and not a team full of has-beens there for a pay-cheque at the end of their careers?

Besides, why would anybody leave the security of a club guaranteed to be in SL next year, to come to us?

Who would you have us sign?
[quote][p][bold]fedupwiththeBS[/bold] wrote: I think Blythe got MOM because he managed to play all 80 without getting injured which for him is a miracle. Lets stop going on about money restraints; when Green got the Club he had to show proof of funds; so my question is where are there and if he is not going to spend now to save the season then we are down. Lets not have the usual retort that there are no players available. Money talks is SL and there are enough players that would jump ship if the fee was right and their clubs would let them go.[/p][/quote]"Lets not have the usual retort that there are no players available. Money talks is SL and there are enough players that would jump ship if the fee was right and their clubs would let them go." If that's the case, that money is all you need, then why are Salford 4th from bottom? Why don't they have a team full of Superstars, and not a team full of has-beens there for a pay-cheque at the end of their careers? Besides, why would anybody leave the security of a club guaranteed to be in SL next year, to come to us? Who would you have us sign? Parz
  • Score: 1

1:08pm Mon 9 Jun 14

allannicho says...

Slip out of Super league then it,ll be goodnight Vienna !
Slip out of Super league then it,ll be goodnight Vienna ! allannicho
  • Score: 0

1:21pm Mon 9 Jun 14

spanglishbull.uk says...

alannicho,
Do you know something I dont.According to Marc Green he is there for the long haul.Are you saying he is a liar?
alannicho, Do you know something I dont.According to Marc Green he is there for the long haul.Are you saying he is a liar? spanglishbull.uk
  • Score: 3

1:27pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

spanglishbull.uk wrote:
alannicho, Do you know something I dont.According to Marc Green he is there for the long haul.Are you saying he is a liar?
Isn't that exactly what Khan said?

You have to forgive people for thinking they are only being told what they want to hear based on the actions of the past.
[quote][p][bold]spanglishbull.uk[/bold] wrote: alannicho, Do you know something I dont.According to Marc Green he is there for the long haul.Are you saying he is a liar?[/p][/quote]Isn't that exactly what Khan said? You have to forgive people for thinking they are only being told what they want to hear based on the actions of the past. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: -2

2:22pm Mon 9 Jun 14

southernbull says...

As many on here have said week after week.....get the basics of the game right such as tackling, running onto balls to get forward and catching kick offs etc and you stand more of a chance of being competitive.
In relation to the players, there are very few who look like they are interested and trying. Gaskell looks totally uninterested in playing amongst a few others.
On the positive side we have players like O`Brien and Kear who give 100% and try their hearts out.
The only predictable thing for yesterday was that Ferguson was missing yet again, just waiting for the team news for this week as you can virtually guarentee the usual suspects will be injured come Friday!!!!
As many on here have said week after week.....get the basics of the game right such as tackling, running onto balls to get forward and catching kick offs etc and you stand more of a chance of being competitive. In relation to the players, there are very few who look like they are interested and trying. Gaskell looks totally uninterested in playing amongst a few others. On the positive side we have players like O`Brien and Kear who give 100% and try their hearts out. The only predictable thing for yesterday was that Ferguson was missing yet again, just waiting for the team news for this week as you can virtually guarentee the usual suspects will be injured come Friday!!!! southernbull
  • Score: 3

2:24pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Paul from Idle says...

Same old same old. Same excuses same score lines the sooner the season ends the better. FC has tried his best but he is a good number 2 at best and he will not be sacked as Greene would have to pay him off.
Same old same old. Same excuses same score lines the sooner the season ends the better. FC has tried his best but he is a good number 2 at best and he will not be sacked as Greene would have to pay him off. Paul from Idle
  • Score: 4

2:39pm Mon 9 Jun 14

nosher says...

southernbull wrote:
As many on here have said week after week.....get the basics of the game right such as tackling, running onto balls to get forward and catching kick offs etc and you stand more of a chance of being competitive.
In relation to the players, there are very few who look like they are interested and trying. Gaskell looks totally uninterested in playing amongst a few others.
On the positive side we have players like O`Brien and Kear who give 100% and try their hearts out.
The only predictable thing for yesterday was that Ferguson was missing yet again, just waiting for the team news for this week as you can virtually guarentee the usual suspects will be injured come Friday!!!!
I know everybody has their own opinion, but I think Gaskell is one of a few that do put some effort in. IMO kear, purtell, gale, olbison and pitts did try yesterday. Walker runs at a brick wall and is out of position, but his defence is poor. For big men, Sidlow and mani dont do enough. Henry and ferguson might well as not signed for the club.
[quote][p][bold]southernbull[/bold] wrote: As many on here have said week after week.....get the basics of the game right such as tackling, running onto balls to get forward and catching kick offs etc and you stand more of a chance of being competitive. In relation to the players, there are very few who look like they are interested and trying. Gaskell looks totally uninterested in playing amongst a few others. On the positive side we have players like O`Brien and Kear who give 100% and try their hearts out. The only predictable thing for yesterday was that Ferguson was missing yet again, just waiting for the team news for this week as you can virtually guarentee the usual suspects will be injured come Friday!!!![/p][/quote]I know everybody has their own opinion, but I think Gaskell is one of a few that do put some effort in. IMO kear, purtell, gale, olbison and pitts did try yesterday. Walker runs at a brick wall and is out of position, but his defence is poor. For big men, Sidlow and mani dont do enough. Henry and ferguson might well as not signed for the club. nosher
  • Score: 0

3:06pm Mon 9 Jun 14

portugalbull says...

Should know by now if Giants going to extend loan or not, so he can trains with us this week. No announcement so not looking good.
Too many players play out of position, no idea in the four pivotal positions.
Should have had Kear at 1, Gaskell at 6, Gale 7 and O,brian at 9, although we would still need our pack to perform.
FC needs experienced help, particularly with defence but fear its too late.
Should know by now if Giants going to extend loan or not, so he can trains with us this week. No announcement so not looking good. Too many players play out of position, no idea in the four pivotal positions. Should have had Kear at 1, Gaskell at 6, Gale 7 and O,brian at 9, although we would still need our pack to perform. FC needs experienced help, particularly with defence but fear its too late. portugalbull
  • Score: 0

3:19pm Mon 9 Jun 14

spanglishbull.uk says...

T.V.O.R.
Marc Green is not Omar Khan.I can see your point about not believing everything you hear but if you saw the interview yesterday would you mention him in the same context as Khan.?Just sometimes you have to believe what you hear or read,you cannot tar everybody with the same brush.Personally I believed what he said,time will tell if I am wrong or not.
T.V.O.R. Marc Green is not Omar Khan.I can see your point about not believing everything you hear but if you saw the interview yesterday would you mention him in the same context as Khan.?Just sometimes you have to believe what you hear or read,you cannot tar everybody with the same brush.Personally I believed what he said,time will tell if I am wrong or not. spanglishbull.uk
  • Score: 1

3:23pm Mon 9 Jun 14

raisemeup says...

Kear at Fullback, Gaskell at stand off, Donaldson at Hooker. Walker and Addy for the loose forward slot. (also lets hope Kearney is back soon)
Foster back on the wing, guarantee Gaskell will have a better game, as him and Foster are mates, and Foster was the one who brought Gaskell to our attention. (we need that psychologist that FC brought into the mix last year) the psychology of winning is all about going the extra mile, and supporting your mates on the field, If you don't have stars in the team, you have to have a star team. We don't have either at the moment!
For what it's worth I prefer a Star team any day, look at Cas. as an example of this philosophy.
Kear at Fullback, Gaskell at stand off, Donaldson at Hooker. Walker and Addy for the loose forward slot. (also lets hope Kearney is back soon) Foster back on the wing, guarantee Gaskell will have a better game, as him and Foster are mates, and Foster was the one who brought Gaskell to our attention. (we need that psychologist that FC brought into the mix last year) the psychology of winning is all about going the extra mile, and supporting your mates on the field, If you don't have stars in the team, you have to have a star team. We don't have either at the moment! For what it's worth I prefer a Star team any day, look at Cas. as an example of this philosophy. raisemeup
  • Score: 4

4:01pm Mon 9 Jun 14

fedupwiththeBS says...

Parz wrote:
fedupwiththeBS wrote:
I think Blythe got MOM because he managed to play all 80 without getting injured which for him is a miracle. Lets stop going on about money restraints; when Green got the Club he had to show proof of funds; so my question is where are there and if he is not going to spend now to save the season then we are down. Lets not have the usual retort that there are no players available. Money talks is SL and there are enough players that would jump ship if the fee was right and their clubs would let them go.
"Lets not have the usual retort that there are no players available. Money talks is SL and there are enough players that would jump ship if the fee was right and their clubs would let them go."

If that's the case, that money is all you need, then why are Salford 4th from bottom? Why don't they have a team full of Superstars, and not a team full of has-beens there for a pay-cheque at the end of their careers?

Besides, why would anybody leave the security of a club guaranteed to be in SL next year, to come to us?

Who would you have us sign?
Salford are 4th from bottom because they have a megalomanic as an owner who decided which players would be brought in hence the team full of individuals who have seen better days.

All SL contracts have a release cause in them should the club get relegated and most Championship contracts have the same should a SL club come calling. This applies to Managers as well should we decided that Glen Morrison is the answer.

As for who I would have us bring in? on performances this weekend most of Leigh's team for starters.
[quote][p][bold]Parz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fedupwiththeBS[/bold] wrote: I think Blythe got MOM because he managed to play all 80 without getting injured which for him is a miracle. Lets stop going on about money restraints; when Green got the Club he had to show proof of funds; so my question is where are there and if he is not going to spend now to save the season then we are down. Lets not have the usual retort that there are no players available. Money talks is SL and there are enough players that would jump ship if the fee was right and their clubs would let them go.[/p][/quote]"Lets not have the usual retort that there are no players available. Money talks is SL and there are enough players that would jump ship if the fee was right and their clubs would let them go." If that's the case, that money is all you need, then why are Salford 4th from bottom? Why don't they have a team full of Superstars, and not a team full of has-beens there for a pay-cheque at the end of their careers? Besides, why would anybody leave the security of a club guaranteed to be in SL next year, to come to us? Who would you have us sign?[/p][/quote]Salford are 4th from bottom because they have a megalomanic as an owner who decided which players would be brought in hence the team full of individuals who have seen better days. All SL contracts have a release cause in them should the club get relegated and most Championship contracts have the same should a SL club come calling. This applies to Managers as well should we decided that Glen Morrison is the answer. As for who I would have us bring in? on performances this weekend most of Leigh's team for starters. fedupwiththeBS
  • Score: 1

4:22pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Parz says...

fedupwiththeBS wrote:
Parz wrote:
fedupwiththeBS wrote: I think Blythe got MOM because he managed to play all 80 without getting injured which for him is a miracle. Lets stop going on about money restraints; when Green got the Club he had to show proof of funds; so my question is where are there and if he is not going to spend now to save the season then we are down. Lets not have the usual retort that there are no players available. Money talks is SL and there are enough players that would jump ship if the fee was right and their clubs would let them go.
"Lets not have the usual retort that there are no players available. Money talks is SL and there are enough players that would jump ship if the fee was right and their clubs would let them go." If that's the case, that money is all you need, then why are Salford 4th from bottom? Why don't they have a team full of Superstars, and not a team full of has-beens there for a pay-cheque at the end of their careers? Besides, why would anybody leave the security of a club guaranteed to be in SL next year, to come to us? Who would you have us sign?
Salford are 4th from bottom because they have a megalomanic as an owner who decided which players would be brought in hence the team full of individuals who have seen better days. All SL contracts have a release cause in them should the club get relegated and most Championship contracts have the same should a SL club come calling. This applies to Managers as well should we decided that Glen Morrison is the answer. As for who I would have us bring in? on performances this weekend most of Leigh's team for starters.
But this is my point. Throwing money around like the Doctor has doesn't get you a decent team. So what is the point in the whole "why isn't he spending money and bringing in players?" argument against Green? You say lets not have the same answer that there's nobody available, but that IS the answer. What other answer would you like him to give?
[quote][p][bold]fedupwiththeBS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fedupwiththeBS[/bold] wrote: I think Blythe got MOM because he managed to play all 80 without getting injured which for him is a miracle. Lets stop going on about money restraints; when Green got the Club he had to show proof of funds; so my question is where are there and if he is not going to spend now to save the season then we are down. Lets not have the usual retort that there are no players available. Money talks is SL and there are enough players that would jump ship if the fee was right and their clubs would let them go.[/p][/quote]"Lets not have the usual retort that there are no players available. Money talks is SL and there are enough players that would jump ship if the fee was right and their clubs would let them go." If that's the case, that money is all you need, then why are Salford 4th from bottom? Why don't they have a team full of Superstars, and not a team full of has-beens there for a pay-cheque at the end of their careers? Besides, why would anybody leave the security of a club guaranteed to be in SL next year, to come to us? Who would you have us sign?[/p][/quote]Salford are 4th from bottom because they have a megalomanic as an owner who decided which players would be brought in hence the team full of individuals who have seen better days. All SL contracts have a release cause in them should the club get relegated and most Championship contracts have the same should a SL club come calling. This applies to Managers as well should we decided that Glen Morrison is the answer. As for who I would have us bring in? on performances this weekend most of Leigh's team for starters.[/p][/quote]But this is my point. Throwing money around like the Doctor has doesn't get you a decent team. So what is the point in the whole "why isn't he spending money and bringing in players?" argument against Green? You say lets not have the same answer that there's nobody available, but that IS the answer. What other answer would you like him to give? Parz
  • Score: 1

4:32pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Out of site says...

oswald777 wrote:
If we are going to be honest about it, getting six points back won't change a thing, we'll still go down, the team are terrible, absolutely terrible.
I will second that,it's time to fold the club before being humiliated by being beaten by most of the teams in the championship.
[quote][p][bold]oswald777[/bold] wrote: If we are going to be honest about it, getting six points back won't change a thing, we'll still go down, the team are terrible, absolutely terrible.[/p][/quote]I will second that,it's time to fold the club before being humiliated by being beaten by most of the teams in the championship. Out of site
  • Score: 1

4:53pm Mon 9 Jun 14

franklyn says...

Talk about a one man band!
Take luke gale out of the bradford team and all you have left is a mediocre championship side.
Gale has already said his contract at bulls is null and void if they are relegated so it looks like it will be goodbye to him at the end of the season.
Can't see many S/L teams rushing to sign any of the others.
Although Gale stood out for bulls, he was a country mile behind Myler and Ratchford. the whole team were outclassed.
Bulls new owner seemed to think they will bounce straight back if relegated, if he thinks it's going to be easy, he's in for a shock. I think there may be one or two clubs in championship will fancy their chances.
Talk about a one man band! Take luke gale out of the bradford team and all you have left is a mediocre championship side. Gale has already said his contract at bulls is null and void if they are relegated so it looks like it will be goodbye to him at the end of the season. Can't see many S/L teams rushing to sign any of the others. Although Gale stood out for bulls, he was a country mile behind Myler and Ratchford. the whole team were outclassed. Bulls new owner seemed to think they will bounce straight back if relegated, if he thinks it's going to be easy, he's in for a shock. I think there may be one or two clubs in championship will fancy their chances. franklyn
  • Score: 0

5:27pm Mon 9 Jun 14

axelf1963 says...

Leigh would have beaten 4 or 5 of super league clubs playing the way they did. They nearly pulled off a shock and were more enthusiastic than Leeds.
Leigh would have beaten 4 or 5 of super league clubs playing the way they did. They nearly pulled off a shock and were more enthusiastic than Leeds. axelf1963
  • Score: 1

5:35pm Mon 9 Jun 14

spanglishbull.uk says...

Spot on Axelf.As I posted earlier,out of the 8 teams playing this weekend the only team we would have given a game were Keighley.Whatever the outcome of this season whether it be S.L. or the Championship a complete clear out is needed.After watching yesterdays game I honestly cannot see one player who would get in any other S.L. team except London and possibly Wakefield because those two teams are on a par with this present Bulls team
Spot on Axelf.As I posted earlier,out of the 8 teams playing this weekend the only team we would have given a game were Keighley.Whatever the outcome of this season whether it be S.L. or the Championship a complete clear out is needed.After watching yesterdays game I honestly cannot see one player who would get in any other S.L. team except London and possibly Wakefield because those two teams are on a par with this present Bulls team spanglishbull.uk
  • Score: 2

5:44pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Bull4Life says...

Just noticed on Sky Sports website that Kaufusi has rejected an offer to stay with Bulls and has returned to huddersfield.

Gutted.

http://www1.skysport
s.com/rugby-league/n
ews/12040/9343406/su
per-league-giants-an
tonio-kafusi-rejects
-chance-to-remain-wi
th-bradford-bulls
Just noticed on Sky Sports website that Kaufusi has rejected an offer to stay with Bulls and has returned to huddersfield. Gutted. http://www1.skysport s.com/rugby-league/n ews/12040/9343406/su per-league-giants-an tonio-kafusi-rejects -chance-to-remain-wi th-bradford-bulls Bull4Life
  • Score: 1

5:45pm Mon 9 Jun 14

fedupwiththeBS says...

Parz wrote:
fedupwiththeBS wrote:
Parz wrote:
fedupwiththeBS wrote: I think Blythe got MOM because he managed to play all 80 without getting injured which for him is a miracle. Lets stop going on about money restraints; when Green got the Club he had to show proof of funds; so my question is where are there and if he is not going to spend now to save the season then we are down. Lets not have the usual retort that there are no players available. Money talks is SL and there are enough players that would jump ship if the fee was right and their clubs would let them go.
"Lets not have the usual retort that there are no players available. Money talks is SL and there are enough players that would jump ship if the fee was right and their clubs would let them go." If that's the case, that money is all you need, then why are Salford 4th from bottom? Why don't they have a team full of Superstars, and not a team full of has-beens there for a pay-cheque at the end of their careers? Besides, why would anybody leave the security of a club guaranteed to be in SL next year, to come to us? Who would you have us sign?
Salford are 4th from bottom because they have a megalomanic as an owner who decided which players would be brought in hence the team full of individuals who have seen better days. All SL contracts have a release cause in them should the club get relegated and most Championship contracts have the same should a SL club come calling. This applies to Managers as well should we decided that Glen Morrison is the answer. As for who I would have us bring in? on performances this weekend most of Leigh's team for starters.
But this is my point. Throwing money around like the Doctor has doesn't get you a decent team. So what is the point in the whole "why isn't he spending money and bringing in players?" argument against Green? You say lets not have the same answer that there's nobody available, but that IS the answer. What other answer would you like him to give?
I am not on about throwing money after over the hill talent like Kockrash has; there is enough talent in the championship that would give their right arm for a bash a Super League.

It has already been highlighted on here that the likes of England and Walmsley came up from the Championship so the players are there.

Green wanted the Club and has done nothing to improve the product on the pitch. The only difference is the lads are getting paid on time.
[quote][p][bold]Parz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fedupwiththeBS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fedupwiththeBS[/bold] wrote: I think Blythe got MOM because he managed to play all 80 without getting injured which for him is a miracle. Lets stop going on about money restraints; when Green got the Club he had to show proof of funds; so my question is where are there and if he is not going to spend now to save the season then we are down. Lets not have the usual retort that there are no players available. Money talks is SL and there are enough players that would jump ship if the fee was right and their clubs would let them go.[/p][/quote]"Lets not have the usual retort that there are no players available. Money talks is SL and there are enough players that would jump ship if the fee was right and their clubs would let them go." If that's the case, that money is all you need, then why are Salford 4th from bottom? Why don't they have a team full of Superstars, and not a team full of has-beens there for a pay-cheque at the end of their careers? Besides, why would anybody leave the security of a club guaranteed to be in SL next year, to come to us? Who would you have us sign?[/p][/quote]Salford are 4th from bottom because they have a megalomanic as an owner who decided which players would be brought in hence the team full of individuals who have seen better days. All SL contracts have a release cause in them should the club get relegated and most Championship contracts have the same should a SL club come calling. This applies to Managers as well should we decided that Glen Morrison is the answer. As for who I would have us bring in? on performances this weekend most of Leigh's team for starters.[/p][/quote]But this is my point. Throwing money around like the Doctor has doesn't get you a decent team. So what is the point in the whole "why isn't he spending money and bringing in players?" argument against Green? You say lets not have the same answer that there's nobody available, but that IS the answer. What other answer would you like him to give?[/p][/quote]I am not on about throwing money after over the hill talent like Kockrash has; there is enough talent in the championship that would give their right arm for a bash a Super League. It has already been highlighted on here that the likes of England and Walmsley came up from the Championship so the players are there. Green wanted the Club and has done nothing to improve the product on the pitch. The only difference is the lads are getting paid on time. fedupwiththeBS
  • Score: 3

5:54pm Mon 9 Jun 14

fedupwiththeBS says...

Bull4Life wrote:
Just noticed on Sky Sports website that Kaufusi has rejected an offer to stay with Bulls and has returned to huddersfield.

Gutted.

http://www1.skysport

s.com/rugby-league/n

ews/12040/9343406/su

per-league-giants-an

tonio-kafusi-rejects

-chance-to-remain-wi

th-bradford-bulls
We needed him to stay to have a fighting chance against Salford as he has been the stand out player for us recently.

Could live with Giants calling him back but for him to reject an extension speaks volumes about where the team is at.
[quote][p][bold]Bull4Life[/bold] wrote: Just noticed on Sky Sports website that Kaufusi has rejected an offer to stay with Bulls and has returned to huddersfield. Gutted. http://www1.skysport s.com/rugby-league/n ews/12040/9343406/su per-league-giants-an tonio-kafusi-rejects -chance-to-remain-wi th-bradford-bulls[/p][/quote]We needed him to stay to have a fighting chance against Salford as he has been the stand out player for us recently. Could live with Giants calling him back but for him to reject an extension speaks volumes about where the team is at. fedupwiththeBS
  • Score: 5

5:15am Tue 10 Jun 14

nosher says...

No loyalty to the club. And obviously not up for the fight. Showed some good defence but to be honest looked unfit.
No loyalty to the club. And obviously not up for the fight. Showed some good defence but to be honest looked unfit. nosher
  • Score: 0

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