Francis Cummins focuses on Catalan Dragons clash in aftermath of annual slaying at Magic Weekend

Larne Patrick piles on the pain for the Bulls as he scores the Giants' ninth try of the afternoon

Larne Patrick piles on the pain for the Bulls as he scores the Giants' ninth try of the afternoon

First published in Sport Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Photograph of the Author by , Bradford Bulls Reporter

Bulls coach Francis Cummins watched his men suffer more Magic Weekend misery and then declared: “The season starts now.”

Huddersfield’s 54-16 victory condemned Bradford to a seventh defeat in eight years since the annual event was introduced in 2007.

Cummins’ squad was decimated by injuries once again but a number of players should be available again for Saturday’s trip to Catalan.

On-loan Huddersfield prop Antonio Kaufusi will return after being ineligible yesterday and James Donaldson (ankle) and Manase Manuokafoa (hamstring) are aiming to be passed fit, while rookies Jordan Baldwinson and Mason Tonks are set to arrive from New Zealand Warriors early this week.

Cummins said: “There probably is a bit of a feeling of the season starts now.

“We could have Manuo-kafoa and Kaufusi back as well as maybe James Donaldson and the two young lads.

“We start to look back to where we were but there are a few days until we get on that plane, so what’s happened all year may happen again.

“We do look like we’re in a good position with players available, though, and we’ll have a pack, which we’ve not had for the past month.

“Baldwinson and Tonks could be here by Monday or Tuesday but it depends what shape they’re in as to whether they will be available for Catalan.”

Yesterday’s reverse was the Bulls’ tenth defeat of the season and left them eight points adrift of third-bottom Wakefield.

Yet Cummins insisted: “We know that we’re light as a squad but we’ve got the belief that we can stay up.

“There are a lot of people out there saying we can’t but we don’t pay too much attention to that.

“There is a scrap on here but we are literally fighting for our lives and that’s how it has got to be.

“There are a few more clubs in the mix because you never know what might happen in the next few weeks – there might be even more pressure on them.”

The Bulls went toe to toe with Huddersfield during the opening quarter but, with Adam Sidlow their only specialist prop and Chev Walker playing with an injury, the second half was completely one-sided.

Cummins added: “I’m proud of the effort the guys showed.

“We stuck to what we wanted to do and we had to play like that in the opening 20 minutes.

“We only had two props out there and one of them – Chev Walker – has put his hand up and done a tremendous job.

“He’s not been able to walk since Friday so we knew it was going to be hard when you look at the wealth of props that Huddersfield have.

“We’ve known we’ve been at this stage all year but if we lose seven or eight players from a squad of 25 then I’m struggling.

“It’s going to need a massive effort and will need players in positions who really know what they’re doing.

Tom Olbison played at prop as well for 30 minutes and you can get away with it on the odd occasion but when you’ve got five or six players like that it’s always going to be difficult.”

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8:07am Mon 19 May 14

Bowlingboy says...

"THE SEASON STARTS NOW" is this guy for real?
"THE SEASON STARTS NOW" is this guy for real? Bowlingboy
  • Score: 8

8:19am Mon 19 May 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Then when Catalan win next week I presume the season starts the week after?

Lucky Bulls didn't run into Wire in the form they were in yesterday. Hopefully Wire won't play like they did yesterday in the Challenge cup or it could be a cricket score.
Then when Catalan win next week I presume the season starts the week after? Lucky Bulls didn't run into Wire in the form they were in yesterday. Hopefully Wire won't play like they did yesterday in the Challenge cup or it could be a cricket score. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 8

8:21am Mon 19 May 14

rogerthat! says...

Bowlingboy wrote:
"THE SEASON STARTS NOW" is this guy for real?
Another week. More Franny excuses. Same old same old. Time for a change as we are getting fed up with the same boaring comments. We need Hope not dribble from a Coach. Taxi for Cummins.
[quote][p][bold]Bowlingboy[/bold] wrote: "THE SEASON STARTS NOW" is this guy for real?[/p][/quote]Another week. More Franny excuses. Same old same old. Time for a change as we are getting fed up with the same boaring comments. We need Hope not dribble from a Coach. Taxi for Cummins. rogerthat!
  • Score: 1

8:22am Mon 19 May 14

Shipley Paul says...

More like next season starts now. Planning for championship must be a priority This squad will struggle in that league too as things are. Not only do we have too small a squad for obvious reasons, the quality of some players is below par too. To survive we need to win FIVE more games than Wakefield from 14 games to go. Will that happen? Odds on no.
More like next season starts now. Planning for championship must be a priority This squad will struggle in that league too as things are. Not only do we have too small a squad for obvious reasons, the quality of some players is below par too. To survive we need to win FIVE more games than Wakefield from 14 games to go. Will that happen? Odds on no. Shipley Paul
  • Score: 9

8:28am Mon 19 May 14

The Fat Lady Sings says...

Bulls coach Francis Cummins declared: “The season starts now.”
He's taking a rise! I am glad to see that he hasn't lost his sense of humour.
So, we were expected to win 13 out of 27 (top eight finish), pro rata, that means 6/7 out of 14 on the run in. I don't think that will be enough to stave off relegation but it would be nice to see. Which seven teams are we going to beat?
Bulls coach Francis Cummins declared: “The season starts now.” He's taking a rise! I am glad to see that he hasn't lost his sense of humour. So, we were expected to win 13 out of 27 (top eight finish), pro rata, that means 6/7 out of 14 on the run in. I don't think that will be enough to stave off relegation but it would be nice to see. Which seven teams are we going to beat? The Fat Lady Sings
  • Score: 8

8:39am Mon 19 May 14

Videoref says...

Season starts here? 108-16 in last 2 matches! Think season ENDS here is more realistic
Season starts here? 108-16 in last 2 matches! Think season ENDS here is more realistic Videoref
  • Score: 14

8:43am Mon 19 May 14

JAtkinson says...

Sad to say but I think relegation is a virtual certainty, and people at the club recognise this. Although disappointed, I'll be following the Bulls in whatever league they're in.

With the vast difference in salary caps and our awful record of keeping homegrown talent, a huge worry must be how on Earth we get back into SL. If we can be embarrassed by Salford and seem soundly below Wakefield this year, how will we fair with the majority of the players leaving, further inability to recruit class players and far, far less money to spend? How will we feel about Odsal with 2-3k there every week?

Previous owners have a great deal to answer for.
Sad to say but I think relegation is a virtual certainty, and people at the club recognise this. Although disappointed, I'll be following the Bulls in whatever league they're in. With the vast difference in salary caps and our awful record of keeping homegrown talent, a huge worry must be how on Earth we get back into SL. If we can be embarrassed by Salford and seem soundly below Wakefield this year, how will we fair with the majority of the players leaving, further inability to recruit class players and far, far less money to spend? How will we feel about Odsal with 2-3k there every week? Previous owners have a great deal to answer for. JAtkinson
  • Score: 26

8:43am Mon 19 May 14

Videoref says...

Sorry-104 -16 finger slipped. Don't want to make it look worse (won't mention Wigan)
Sorry-104 -16 finger slipped. Don't want to make it look worse (won't mention Wigan) Videoref
  • Score: 3

9:03am Mon 19 May 14

The Fat Lady Sings says...

I posted this in another comment section but believe it's relevant.
Is this squad good enough to compete in the Championship? There will be little investment in playing staff, if any, next year and I fear that our current crop look too light for even Championship grade rugby. Does it also mean that they will all need to find a full-time job in another profession, to supplement their income, as, I assume, Championship players are not full-time professionals?
What is Mr Green's business plan? Are we privy to it? Is he going to invest or merely asset strip?
I posted this in another comment section but believe it's relevant. Is this squad good enough to compete in the Championship? There will be little investment in playing staff, if any, next year and I fear that our current crop look too light for even Championship grade rugby. Does it also mean that they will all need to find a full-time job in another profession, to supplement their income, as, I assume, Championship players are not full-time professionals? What is Mr Green's business plan? Are we privy to it? Is he going to invest or merely asset strip? The Fat Lady Sings
  • Score: 9

9:10am Mon 19 May 14

nosher says...

The league table doesn't lie. The worst 3 teams on display at the magic weekend were the bottom 3. Smallest players, slowest players, least quality. One of these clubs will survive but not for long. The weekend has been a shocker for Bradford andsome of the time the ground looked empty. I think it should be scrapped, but it probably won't affect us in the next few years. The silence from green, ferres and Paul is deafening. You have got to admire the effort put in by most of the players. Purtell and Pitts tackled their nuts off. If walker couldn't walk till Friday that is a magnificent effort, but he should not be allowed to play.
The league table doesn't lie. The worst 3 teams on display at the magic weekend were the bottom 3. Smallest players, slowest players, least quality. One of these clubs will survive but not for long. The weekend has been a shocker for Bradford andsome of the time the ground looked empty. I think it should be scrapped, but it probably won't affect us in the next few years. The silence from green, ferres and Paul is deafening. You have got to admire the effort put in by most of the players. Purtell and Pitts tackled their nuts off. If walker couldn't walk till Friday that is a magnificent effort, but he should not be allowed to play. nosher
  • Score: 8

9:10am Mon 19 May 14

Bowlingboy says...

What I don't understand is why Green has gone in to buy the Club when he hasn't got any intention of investing any money?
You can Guarantee anyone else involved would have at least tried to stay in super league?
At least Koukash would have thrown some money at it and probably sacked Cummins for not been upto it.
It seems to me that twice now the RFL has rubber stamped the wrong package for ownership.
The whole situation is painful and embarrassing.
What I don't understand is why Green has gone in to buy the Club when he hasn't got any intention of investing any money? You can Guarantee anyone else involved would have at least tried to stay in super league? At least Koukash would have thrown some money at it and probably sacked Cummins for not been upto it. It seems to me that twice now the RFL has rubber stamped the wrong package for ownership. The whole situation is painful and embarrassing. Bowlingboy
  • Score: 14

9:14am Mon 19 May 14

oswald777 says...

Wonder what rubbish Francis 'I don't want to make excuses but' Cummins will come out with this week ? Same old, same old, cant believe no one has snapped up our 'defensive coach', Lee St Hilaire yet ??!! What a record he has. It's time for sackings without a doubt, we need a coach that actually knows what 's doing. Looking at the back of Saturdays T&A at the young Bulls fan holding up the sign saying 'try'....God, I wish they would !!
Wonder what rubbish Francis 'I don't want to make excuses but' Cummins will come out with this week ? Same old, same old, cant believe no one has snapped up our 'defensive coach', Lee St Hilaire yet ??!! What a record he has. It's time for sackings without a doubt, we need a coach that actually knows what 's doing. Looking at the back of Saturdays T&A at the young Bulls fan holding up the sign saying 'try'....God, I wish they would !! oswald777
  • Score: 4

9:26am Mon 19 May 14

blue marlin says...

Am i the only who thinks that the bulls cant afford to get rid of FC and a number of back room staff if they wanted to.
Also not sure that the Bol***king they got from mr ferres has not worked.
Am i the only who thinks that the bulls cant afford to get rid of FC and a number of back room staff if they wanted to. Also not sure that the Bol***king they got from mr ferres has not worked. blue marlin
  • Score: 7

9:41am Mon 19 May 14

BrisBull says...

I'm certain it would be a blessed relief for Franny if he were removed from his post.

Do people honestly believe that, say Wane, Smith or McDermott would have a better win ratio with the exactly the same players/loanees that Franny has?

Personally, I don't think so because the resource is scarce in both quality and quantity.
I'm certain it would be a blessed relief for Franny if he were removed from his post. Do people honestly believe that, say Wane, Smith or McDermott would have a better win ratio with the exactly the same players/loanees that Franny has? Personally, I don't think so because the resource is scarce in both quality and quantity. BrisBull
  • Score: 15

9:51am Mon 19 May 14

rogerthat! says...

nosher wrote:
The league table doesn't lie. The worst 3 teams on display at the magic weekend were the bottom 3. Smallest players, slowest players, least quality. One of these clubs will survive but not for long. The weekend has been a shocker for Bradford andsome of the time the ground looked empty. I think it should be scrapped, but it probably won't affect us in the next few years. The silence from green, ferres and Paul is deafening. You have got to admire the effort put in by most of the players. Purtell and Pitts tackled their nuts off. If walker couldn't walk till Friday that is a magnificent effort, but he should not be allowed to play.
Agree. Is Robbie still at Bulls? After his outburst a few weeks ago nothing from Ferres. Where are the leaders? All we are fed on is bull??it . Did Green really want the Club or just his money back? Is it going to be more of the Khan, Whitcut Suitcliffe management style. Spin spin spin. Take take take.
When is the mess we are in going to be sorted??
[quote][p][bold]nosher[/bold] wrote: The league table doesn't lie. The worst 3 teams on display at the magic weekend were the bottom 3. Smallest players, slowest players, least quality. One of these clubs will survive but not for long. The weekend has been a shocker for Bradford andsome of the time the ground looked empty. I think it should be scrapped, but it probably won't affect us in the next few years. The silence from green, ferres and Paul is deafening. You have got to admire the effort put in by most of the players. Purtell and Pitts tackled their nuts off. If walker couldn't walk till Friday that is a magnificent effort, but he should not be allowed to play.[/p][/quote]Agree. Is Robbie still at Bulls? After his outburst a few weeks ago nothing from Ferres. Where are the leaders? All we are fed on is bull??it . Did Green really want the Club or just his money back? Is it going to be more of the Khan, Whitcut Suitcliffe management style. Spin spin spin. Take take take. When is the mess we are in going to be sorted?? rogerthat!
  • Score: 18

9:52am Mon 19 May 14

Bullmaniac says...

As I've mentioned before we need an old head like Noble or Kear to come in to oversee the coaching side of things. I also think we should cast off St Hilaire because his record as 'defence coach' is abysmal. If it's a case of him telling the players the right systems and techniques and then them not following it then the players need to be disciplined, however I don't think this is the case.

Relegation is a certainty, there are three crap teams in Super League - us, London and Wakefield; then there is the rest with Leeds, Wigan and Saints top of the pile by some way IMHO. In our defence if we'd kept hold of Carvell, Scruton and Sammutt then I honestly believe we would have been mixing it with the likes of Catalans and Hull.

Maybe a drop down a division will give us time to get our house in order with regards finances and also on the playing side. Rememebr that Mr Green is a businessman first and foremost and is not a Bradford fan. He will be looking at the best way to achieve the most from as little investment as possible. I suppose he realises that relegation is firmly on the cards and is preparing the club for this.
As I've mentioned before we need an old head like Noble or Kear to come in to oversee the coaching side of things. I also think we should cast off St Hilaire because his record as 'defence coach' is abysmal. If it's a case of him telling the players the right systems and techniques and then them not following it then the players need to be disciplined, however I don't think this is the case. Relegation is a certainty, there are three crap teams in Super League - us, London and Wakefield; then there is the rest with Leeds, Wigan and Saints top of the pile by some way IMHO. In our defence if we'd kept hold of Carvell, Scruton and Sammutt then I honestly believe we would have been mixing it with the likes of Catalans and Hull. Maybe a drop down a division will give us time to get our house in order with regards finances and also on the playing side. Rememebr that Mr Green is a businessman first and foremost and is not a Bradford fan. He will be looking at the best way to achieve the most from as little investment as possible. I suppose he realises that relegation is firmly on the cards and is preparing the club for this. Bullmaniac
  • Score: 10

9:52am Mon 19 May 14

blue marlin says...

BrisBull wrote:
I'm certain it would be a blessed relief for Franny if he were removed from his post. Do people honestly believe that, say Wane, Smith or McDermott would have a better win ratio with the exactly the same players/loanees that Franny has? Personally, I don't think so because the resource is scarce in both quality and quantity.
you may be right but take a look at the wign side that beat leeds how may are in RL terms houshold names?
[quote][p][bold]BrisBull[/bold] wrote: I'm certain it would be a blessed relief for Franny if he were removed from his post. Do people honestly believe that, say Wane, Smith or McDermott would have a better win ratio with the exactly the same players/loanees that Franny has? Personally, I don't think so because the resource is scarce in both quality and quantity.[/p][/quote]you may be right but take a look at the wign side that beat leeds how may are in RL terms houshold names? blue marlin
  • Score: 6

10:00am Mon 19 May 14

spanglishbull.uk says...

All you lot wanting rid of F.C. Think before you open your mouths.Who would want the job?Who could do the Job?Through no fault of their own most of the squad are neither big or good enough.Anybody who thinks these players are not trying know absolutely nothing about sport.Every one of the Sky commentators had nothing but praise for the players and coach yesterdayI am sure,having played the game proffesionally,they know a hell of a lot more than you idiots do.Either talk common sense or keep your mouths shut.
All you lot wanting rid of F.C. Think before you open your mouths.Who would want the job?Who could do the Job?Through no fault of their own most of the squad are neither big or good enough.Anybody who thinks these players are not trying know absolutely nothing about sport.Every one of the Sky commentators had nothing but praise for the players and coach yesterdayI am sure,having played the game proffesionally,they know a hell of a lot more than you idiots do.Either talk common sense or keep your mouths shut. spanglishbull.uk
  • Score: 14

10:00am Mon 19 May 14

blue marlin says...

Bowlingboy wrote:
What I don't understand is why Green has gone in to buy the Club when he hasn't got any intention of investing any money? You can Guarantee anyone else involved would have at least tried to stay in super league? At least Koukash would have thrown some money at it and probably sacked Cummins for not been upto it. It seems to me that twice now the RFL has rubber stamped the wrong package for ownership. The whole situation is painful and embarrassing.
to get his money back?
[quote][p][bold]Bowlingboy[/bold] wrote: What I don't understand is why Green has gone in to buy the Club when he hasn't got any intention of investing any money? You can Guarantee anyone else involved would have at least tried to stay in super league? At least Koukash would have thrown some money at it and probably sacked Cummins for not been upto it. It seems to me that twice now the RFL has rubber stamped the wrong package for ownership. The whole situation is painful and embarrassing.[/p][/quote]to get his money back? blue marlin
  • Score: 4

10:03am Mon 19 May 14

fedupwiththeBS says...

Bowlingboy wrote:
What I don't understand is why Green has gone in to buy the Club when he hasn't got any intention of investing any money?
You can Guarantee anyone else involved would have at least tried to stay in super league?
At least Koukash would have thrown some money at it and probably sacked Cummins for not been upto it.
It seems to me that twice now the RFL has rubber stamped the wrong package for ownership.
The whole situation is painful and embarrassing.
Unfortunately it would seem with the lack of comment and lack of investment it is looking like Green got his hands on the Club by default just to get his money back. He is backed by a property development company so read into that what you will.

We could have had a Bradford born multi millionaire owner and a club run by Bradford folk but instead we get a Londoner who is a self proclaimed Rhinos fan.
[quote][p][bold]Bowlingboy[/bold] wrote: What I don't understand is why Green has gone in to buy the Club when he hasn't got any intention of investing any money? You can Guarantee anyone else involved would have at least tried to stay in super league? At least Koukash would have thrown some money at it and probably sacked Cummins for not been upto it. It seems to me that twice now the RFL has rubber stamped the wrong package for ownership. The whole situation is painful and embarrassing.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately it would seem with the lack of comment and lack of investment it is looking like Green got his hands on the Club by default just to get his money back. He is backed by a property development company so read into that what you will. We could have had a Bradford born multi millionaire owner and a club run by Bradford folk but instead we get a Londoner who is a self proclaimed Rhinos fan. fedupwiththeBS
  • Score: 8

10:10am Mon 19 May 14

fedupwiththeBS says...

Agreed; the one thing that we have no right to complain about is the level of effort that the lads have put in this season so far and last season. There were a number of guys that should not have been on that pitch yesterday due to the injuries that they are carrying and other Clubs would have been able to rest them. Chev Walker's effort was outstanding if the rumours of the state of his toe are true!

Simple fact is we have not the size or depth of squad (or it we seem the level of medical care) needed to compete week in week out.

As for FC being replaced; no one will want that job, to be labelled as the coach that took Bradford down is not a title that any would want on their CV.
Agreed; the one thing that we have no right to complain about is the level of effort that the lads have put in this season so far and last season. There were a number of guys that should not have been on that pitch yesterday due to the injuries that they are carrying and other Clubs would have been able to rest them. Chev Walker's effort was outstanding if the rumours of the state of his toe are true! Simple fact is we have not the size or depth of squad (or it we seem the level of medical care) needed to compete week in week out. As for FC being replaced; no one will want that job, to be labelled as the coach that took Bradford down is not a title that any would want on their CV. fedupwiththeBS
  • Score: 10

10:55am Mon 19 May 14

nochanceagain says...

It isn't Franny's fault they are so lightin the middle all you need to do is look down the squad sheet at Huddersfield website and look down ours of the players we had out and you can see the enormous size and power difference, they were just absolutely shattered in the second half by the end they couldn't even stop little half backs offloading in the tackle.
Effort was there they matched them for half an hour could easily have been 12-10 at half time, but just like we did to teams when we had a huge pack they wore us down.
Gale can't tackle and they targetted him, we badly need some size unless that happens then relegation is a high probability.
I'm sure everyone at the Bulls knows what's wrong it's not so easy to find the talent and fix it, if we had Scrutes and Carvell then it would have beena totally different score line.
It isn't Franny's fault they are so lightin the middle all you need to do is look down the squad sheet at Huddersfield website and look down ours of the players we had out and you can see the enormous size and power difference, they were just absolutely shattered in the second half by the end they couldn't even stop little half backs offloading in the tackle. Effort was there they matched them for half an hour could easily have been 12-10 at half time, but just like we did to teams when we had a huge pack they wore us down. Gale can't tackle and they targetted him, we badly need some size unless that happens then relegation is a high probability. I'm sure everyone at the Bulls knows what's wrong it's not so easy to find the talent and fix it, if we had Scrutes and Carvell then it would have beena totally different score line. nochanceagain
  • Score: 5

11:00am Mon 19 May 14

Bowlingboy says...

blue marlin wrote:
Bowlingboy wrote:
What I don't understand is why Green has gone in to buy the Club when he hasn't got any intention of investing any money? You can Guarantee anyone else involved would have at least tried to stay in super league? At least Koukash would have thrown some money at it and probably sacked Cummins for not been upto it. It seems to me that twice now the RFL has rubber stamped the wrong package for ownership. The whole situation is painful and embarrassing.
to get his money back?
He isn't going to get it back without investing as the club will not be worth a bean.
[quote][p][bold]blue marlin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bowlingboy[/bold] wrote: What I don't understand is why Green has gone in to buy the Club when he hasn't got any intention of investing any money? You can Guarantee anyone else involved would have at least tried to stay in super league? At least Koukash would have thrown some money at it and probably sacked Cummins for not been upto it. It seems to me that twice now the RFL has rubber stamped the wrong package for ownership. The whole situation is painful and embarrassing.[/p][/quote]to get his money back?[/p][/quote]He isn't going to get it back without investing as the club will not be worth a bean. Bowlingboy
  • Score: 4

11:02am Mon 19 May 14

axelf1963 says...

Another day another loss, Green really is taking a verbal battering too but I did predict this would happen .
Talking of predictions I was 1 minute off an exact score so although I did win some cash it was not enough to have 5 days at spoons.
Some players back by the looks this week but 25 degrees in France so with all that in mind I go for Catalan by 30.
Another day another loss, Green really is taking a verbal battering too but I did predict this would happen . Talking of predictions I was 1 minute off an exact score so although I did win some cash it was not enough to have 5 days at spoons. Some players back by the looks this week but 25 degrees in France so with all that in mind I go for Catalan by 30. axelf1963
  • Score: -1

11:26am Mon 19 May 14

Claytonbull says...

Bowlingboy wrote:
What I don't understand is why Green has gone in to buy the Club when he hasn't got any intention of investing any money?
You can Guarantee anyone else involved would have at least tried to stay in super league?
At least Koukash would have thrown some money at it and probably sacked Cummins for not been upto it.
It seems to me that twice now the RFL has rubber stamped the wrong package for ownership.
The whole situation is painful and embarrassing.
Green has bought the club knowing he will probably get his money back when we get relegated as you get parachute payments coming close to a million pounds. Thus ensuring he gets his £200000 loan back he forwarded to the club. This was his only way to ensure he got his money back if we had gone bust he would have got nothing.
[quote][p][bold]Bowlingboy[/bold] wrote: What I don't understand is why Green has gone in to buy the Club when he hasn't got any intention of investing any money? You can Guarantee anyone else involved would have at least tried to stay in super league? At least Koukash would have thrown some money at it and probably sacked Cummins for not been upto it. It seems to me that twice now the RFL has rubber stamped the wrong package for ownership. The whole situation is painful and embarrassing.[/p][/quote]Green has bought the club knowing he will probably get his money back when we get relegated as you get parachute payments coming close to a million pounds. Thus ensuring he gets his £200000 loan back he forwarded to the club. This was his only way to ensure he got his money back if we had gone bust he would have got nothing. Claytonbull
  • Score: 6

11:34am Mon 19 May 14

bingleymoor says...

I have commented on here before as simply a Bradfordian who likes to see sport in our City do well. I have no view on the Bulls coaching staff or players but results speak for themselves and the worst fears do now seem capable of happening.
Mr Green is getting stick but really is he only in this to get the £200k debt back by slowly taking it out of revenue? I don't know but it looks that way to me and only the RFL are to blame for that-- why allow the Administrator appointed by Green to run the bidding process for ownership? but then this is the same body who had the Hull derby on the same day as the up Final when a move to Sunday was the easy option, not bright.
The real question for you Bulls fans is not about playing one step down next year but rather if you will play at all. I see only another admin coming on.
I have commented on here before as simply a Bradfordian who likes to see sport in our City do well. I have no view on the Bulls coaching staff or players but results speak for themselves and the worst fears do now seem capable of happening. Mr Green is getting stick but really is he only in this to get the £200k debt back by slowly taking it out of revenue? I don't know but it looks that way to me and only the RFL are to blame for that-- why allow the Administrator appointed by Green to run the bidding process for ownership? but then this is the same body who had the Hull derby on the same day as the up Final when a move to Sunday was the easy option, not bright. The real question for you Bulls fans is not about playing one step down next year but rather if you will play at all. I see only another admin coming on. bingleymoor
  • Score: 9

12:07pm Mon 19 May 14

yorkshiredude says...

Next two games are massive! Catalans and Wakefield are beatable... then we'd be only 4 pts behind Wakefield... which is not insurmountable over 12 games. I have not given up just yet.
Next two games are massive! Catalans and Wakefield are beatable... then we'd be only 4 pts behind Wakefield... which is not insurmountable over 12 games. I have not given up just yet. yorkshiredude
  • Score: 9

12:09pm Mon 19 May 14

yorkshiredude says...

bingleymoor wrote:
I have commented on here before as simply a Bradfordian who likes to see sport in our City do well. I have no view on the Bulls coaching staff or players but results speak for themselves and the worst fears do now seem capable of happening.
Mr Green is getting stick but really is he only in this to get the £200k debt back by slowly taking it out of revenue? I don't know but it looks that way to me and only the RFL are to blame for that-- why allow the Administrator appointed by Green to run the bidding process for ownership? but then this is the same body who had the Hull derby on the same day as the up Final when a move to Sunday was the easy option, not bright.
The real question for you Bulls fans is not about playing one step down next year but rather if you will play at all. I see only another admin coming on.
Saturday was the highest ever magic weekend attendance for a day... so the Hull derby clash wasn't too bad. FC and KR fans travelled in good numbers too, so I've heard.
[quote][p][bold]bingleymoor[/bold] wrote: I have commented on here before as simply a Bradfordian who likes to see sport in our City do well. I have no view on the Bulls coaching staff or players but results speak for themselves and the worst fears do now seem capable of happening. Mr Green is getting stick but really is he only in this to get the £200k debt back by slowly taking it out of revenue? I don't know but it looks that way to me and only the RFL are to blame for that-- why allow the Administrator appointed by Green to run the bidding process for ownership? but then this is the same body who had the Hull derby on the same day as the up Final when a move to Sunday was the easy option, not bright. The real question for you Bulls fans is not about playing one step down next year but rather if you will play at all. I see only another admin coming on.[/p][/quote]Saturday was the highest ever magic weekend attendance for a day... so the Hull derby clash wasn't too bad. FC and KR fans travelled in good numbers too, so I've heard. yorkshiredude
  • Score: 4

12:29pm Mon 19 May 14

nosher says...

spanglishbull.uk wrote:
All you lot wanting rid of F.C. Think before you open your mouths.Who would want the job?Who could do the Job?Through no fault of their own most of the squad are neither big or good enough.Anybody who thinks these players are not trying know absolutely nothing about sport.Every one of the Sky commentators had nothing but praise for the players and coach yesterdayI am sure,having played the game proffesionally,they know a hell of a lot more than you idiots do.Either talk common sense or keep your mouths shut.
Calm down spangles. High blood pressure is not good for a man of your age. Lol.
[quote][p][bold]spanglishbull.uk[/bold] wrote: All you lot wanting rid of F.C. Think before you open your mouths.Who would want the job?Who could do the Job?Through no fault of their own most of the squad are neither big or good enough.Anybody who thinks these players are not trying know absolutely nothing about sport.Every one of the Sky commentators had nothing but praise for the players and coach yesterdayI am sure,having played the game proffesionally,they know a hell of a lot more than you idiots do.Either talk common sense or keep your mouths shut.[/p][/quote]Calm down spangles. High blood pressure is not good for a man of your age. Lol. nosher
  • Score: -4

12:57pm Mon 19 May 14

Paul from Idle says...

Dream on FC. We are destined for the drop. Marc Green is not interested he has put Ferres in to prepare them for the championship and as an aside is Robbie still at the club?
The noise coming out of Odsal is deafening so much commitment from the board!!
Dream on FC. We are destined for the drop. Marc Green is not interested he has put Ferres in to prepare them for the championship and as an aside is Robbie still at the club? The noise coming out of Odsal is deafening so much commitment from the board!! Paul from Idle
  • Score: 6

1:15pm Mon 19 May 14

low moor bulls says...

lets face it all bulls players shud be performing at their highest standard. At the end of the day none of the players will want to play in championship, hence they are all putting themselves in the shop window,hoping that if we are relegated they can get a contract with another superleague club.
lets face it all bulls players shud be performing at their highest standard. At the end of the day none of the players will want to play in championship, hence they are all putting themselves in the shop window,hoping that if we are relegated they can get a contract with another superleague club. low moor bulls
  • Score: 0

3:13pm Mon 19 May 14

Paul from Idle says...

Next year there are only 12 clubs in Super League so quiete a few players will lose out...to be honest I would say 75% of the squad are championship quality already so they will be able to stay put. Pitts and co will go back to SL clubs so we are prepared now as opposed to having to sort things out end of season as i have said in previous posts Marc Greene knows the end game!
Next year there are only 12 clubs in Super League so quiete a few players will lose out...to be honest I would say 75% of the squad are championship quality already so they will be able to stay put. Pitts and co will go back to SL clubs so we are prepared now as opposed to having to sort things out end of season as i have said in previous posts Marc Greene knows the end game! Paul from Idle
  • Score: 5

4:10pm Mon 19 May 14

spanglishbull.uk says...

Nosher,
No high blood pressure for me L.O.L. just get annoyed by some of the idiots on here,not Axel by the way he is a wind up merchant and my new friend.It is the ones who constantly criticise but never any constructive criticism.You have played the game and know the game.Can you tell me any coach who would want the job and indeed could do any better with the squad we have at the moment.If you can I would be interested to know your opinion.
Nosher, No high blood pressure for me L.O.L. just get annoyed by some of the idiots on here,not Axel by the way he is a wind up merchant and my new friend.It is the ones who constantly criticise but never any constructive criticism.You have played the game and know the game.Can you tell me any coach who would want the job and indeed could do any better with the squad we have at the moment.If you can I would be interested to know your opinion. spanglishbull.uk
  • Score: 4

4:41pm Mon 19 May 14

nosher says...

Spangles. I don't know any coach that would want to take over at the bulls. The best coach in the world would probably not do any better with this group of players than FC has. The simple facts are, we cant compete in the super league at this time. In all league sports the weakest drop down till they can compete. That is us. I have accepted that we are likely to get relegated and hope we can rebuild and return. If we cant it is not the end of the world. COYB
Spangles. I don't know any coach that would want to take over at the bulls. The best coach in the world would probably not do any better with this group of players than FC has. The simple facts are, we cant compete in the super league at this time. In all league sports the weakest drop down till they can compete. That is us. I have accepted that we are likely to get relegated and hope we can rebuild and return. If we cant it is not the end of the world. COYB nosher
  • Score: 3

5:09pm Mon 19 May 14

axelf1963 says...

I think some coaches can get more out of an average team like Powell at castleford.
FC will probably become a good coach in time with the correct club not under so much pressure and constraints.
I think some coaches can get more out of an average team like Powell at castleford. FC will probably become a good coach in time with the correct club not under so much pressure and constraints. axelf1963
  • Score: 3

5:45pm Mon 19 May 14

BCFC LAD says says...

spanglishbull.uk wrote:
Nosher,
No high blood pressure for me L.O.L. just get annoyed by some of the idiots on here,not Axel by the way he is a wind up merchant and my new friend.It is the ones who constantly criticise but never any constructive criticism.You have played the game and know the game.Can you tell me any coach who would want the job and indeed could do any better with the squad we have at the moment.If you can I would be interested to know your opinion.
Yes you are right and for once Axel posts without winding up. I would add Denis Betts to Axels comment.
The bottom line is not many of our players are good enough to get into other SL teams. At magic weekend the 3 weakest teams us wakey and london were shown that they are not good enough.
[quote][p][bold]spanglishbull.uk[/bold] wrote: Nosher, No high blood pressure for me L.O.L. just get annoyed by some of the idiots on here,not Axel by the way he is a wind up merchant and my new friend.It is the ones who constantly criticise but never any constructive criticism.You have played the game and know the game.Can you tell me any coach who would want the job and indeed could do any better with the squad we have at the moment.If you can I would be interested to know your opinion.[/p][/quote]Yes you are right and for once Axel posts without winding up. I would add Denis Betts to Axels comment. The bottom line is not many of our players are good enough to get into other SL teams. At magic weekend the 3 weakest teams us wakey and london were shown that they are not good enough. BCFC LAD says
  • Score: 4

5:59pm Mon 19 May 14

spanglishbull.uk says...

Fully agree with you Nosher,Axel, Bcfc Lad.

There is not another coach who would want the job,nor could anybody do a better job so why want to get rid of somebody who is doing his best with the players he has got.It is not the players fault either.Unfortunately a lot of them are not up to the task but they are certainly doing their utmost and deserve great credit for their efforts and not slagging off.
Fully agree with you Nosher,Axel, Bcfc Lad. There is not another coach who would want the job,nor could anybody do a better job so why want to get rid of somebody who is doing his best with the players he has got.It is not the players fault either.Unfortunately a lot of them are not up to the task but they are certainly doing their utmost and deserve great credit for their efforts and not slagging off. spanglishbull.uk
  • Score: 6

7:52pm Mon 19 May 14

hunsworthbull says...

If I remember rightly one of our magic so called slayings was down to that so called ref called Ganson when he gave the game to Leeds when Tansey was off side when penalty was kicked and he stood there when they had scored not really knowing what to do but give a try. While im on whats happening about the points anyone any idea?
If I remember rightly one of our magic so called slayings was down to that so called ref called Ganson when he gave the game to Leeds when Tansey was off side when penalty was kicked and he stood there when they had scored not really knowing what to do but give a try. While im on whats happening about the points anyone any idea? hunsworthbull
  • Score: -3

8:46pm Mon 19 May 14

Its Granola - Granola says...

hunsworthbull wrote:
If I remember rightly one of our magic so called slayings was down to that so called ref called Ganson when he gave the game to Leeds when Tansey was off side when penalty was kicked and he stood there when they had scored not really knowing what to do but give a try. While im on whats happening about the points anyone any idea?
Not quite sure i know what you're on about , more to the point Do You???
[quote][p][bold]hunsworthbull[/bold] wrote: If I remember rightly one of our magic so called slayings was down to that so called ref called Ganson when he gave the game to Leeds when Tansey was off side when penalty was kicked and he stood there when they had scored not really knowing what to do but give a try. While im on whats happening about the points anyone any idea?[/p][/quote]Not quite sure i know what you're on about , more to the point Do You??? Its Granola - Granola
  • Score: 0

11:04pm Mon 19 May 14

bradfordbronco says...

axelf1963 wrote:
I think some coaches can get more out of an average team like Powell at castleford.
FC will probably become a good coach in time with the correct club not under so much pressure and constraints.
I agree. I think there's many coaches that would get more out of the players we have. Cummins has got them showing real effort and had done a great job holding everything together. What we need though is a coach with new ideas

Our players seem to lack basic skills such as passing, kicking, handling not to mention fitness. What do they actually do on the training pitch? We dont have any structure on defence or attack there's no off the ball runners our line is flat. Defensively we are a joke. We cant control the ruck area, we don't communicate we don't slide as a unit. some of this is down to the amount of changes we have to make every week which cummins can't be faulted for.

There's so much more to coaching than just getting 100% effort out of the guys. We need a coach that can direct the players efforts in the right way such as Tony Smith, Nathan Brown, Michael MaGuire, Trent Robinson all came over here as untried coaches and created an environment where players improved and played as a team.

I would like to see Cummins retained as assistant coach. St Hillare should be let go. He's been there far too long and brought nothing to the club. As regards comments about nobody wanting the job lets find out. I think there's loads of coaches wanting a break and where better to get it than a former big club that has underperformed for the last 10 years
[quote][p][bold]axelf1963[/bold] wrote: I think some coaches can get more out of an average team like Powell at castleford. FC will probably become a good coach in time with the correct club not under so much pressure and constraints.[/p][/quote]I agree. I think there's many coaches that would get more out of the players we have. Cummins has got them showing real effort and had done a great job holding everything together. What we need though is a coach with new ideas Our players seem to lack basic skills such as passing, kicking, handling not to mention fitness. What do they actually do on the training pitch? We dont have any structure on defence or attack there's no off the ball runners our line is flat. Defensively we are a joke. We cant control the ruck area, we don't communicate we don't slide as a unit. some of this is down to the amount of changes we have to make every week which cummins can't be faulted for. There's so much more to coaching than just getting 100% effort out of the guys. We need a coach that can direct the players efforts in the right way such as Tony Smith, Nathan Brown, Michael MaGuire, Trent Robinson all came over here as untried coaches and created an environment where players improved and played as a team. I would like to see Cummins retained as assistant coach. St Hillare should be let go. He's been there far too long and brought nothing to the club. As regards comments about nobody wanting the job lets find out. I think there's loads of coaches wanting a break and where better to get it than a former big club that has underperformed for the last 10 years bradfordbronco
  • Score: 2

12:26am Tue 20 May 14

scone says...

bradfordbronco wrote:
axelf1963 wrote:
I think some coaches can get more out of an average team like Powell at castleford.
FC will probably become a good coach in time with the correct club not under so much pressure and constraints.
I agree. I think there's many coaches that would get more out of the players we have. Cummins has got them showing real effort and had done a great job holding everything together. What we need though is a coach with new ideas

Our players seem to lack basic skills such as passing, kicking, handling not to mention fitness. What do they actually do on the training pitch? We dont have any structure on defence or attack there's no off the ball runners our line is flat. Defensively we are a joke. We cant control the ruck area, we don't communicate we don't slide as a unit. some of this is down to the amount of changes we have to make every week which cummins can't be faulted for.

There's so much more to coaching than just getting 100% effort out of the guys. We need a coach that can direct the players efforts in the right way such as Tony Smith, Nathan Brown, Michael MaGuire, Trent Robinson all came over here as untried coaches and created an environment where players improved and played as a team.

I would like to see Cummins retained as assistant coach. St Hillare should be let go. He's been there far too long and brought nothing to the club. As regards comments about nobody wanting the job lets find out. I think there's loads of coaches wanting a break and where better to get it than a former big club that has underperformed for the last 10 years
Lets try a basic game plan lads. We'll give it the big lads up front to run in then ......but boss they're sat up in the stands....well we'll chuck a couple of centres in to run it in then 'cos Crabtree and Kopczack will soon struggle from being run into by Chev and Purts...... Sure Shuan Wane would have had them charging in lots better.....I'm frankly amazed that FC managed to get them on the park. Have you actually seen the size of these athletes they are up against.
Danny Addy is a quality player to be snapped up next year. makes one in at stand off... Luke George Winger makes one in in the second row and centre. Chev Walker centre gives his all at prop. Young winger fills in at centre and You wonder why there is no structure.....Stick to tiddlywinks.....Yes we will struggle all year but coaching and skill level is not the issue. Poor management and lack of resources yes. FC is a good coach not a miracle worker. You lot need to step back and see reality for what it is. Full side and we'll compete. Maybe not win but compete. Subs bench of a second row a hooker, a winger and a centre. This game is about manning up and they did that. Out muscled but never lacked effort. That takes some coaching when you know you can't compete!
[quote][p][bold]bradfordbronco[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]axelf1963[/bold] wrote: I think some coaches can get more out of an average team like Powell at castleford. FC will probably become a good coach in time with the correct club not under so much pressure and constraints.[/p][/quote]I agree. I think there's many coaches that would get more out of the players we have. Cummins has got them showing real effort and had done a great job holding everything together. What we need though is a coach with new ideas Our players seem to lack basic skills such as passing, kicking, handling not to mention fitness. What do they actually do on the training pitch? We dont have any structure on defence or attack there's no off the ball runners our line is flat. Defensively we are a joke. We cant control the ruck area, we don't communicate we don't slide as a unit. some of this is down to the amount of changes we have to make every week which cummins can't be faulted for. There's so much more to coaching than just getting 100% effort out of the guys. We need a coach that can direct the players efforts in the right way such as Tony Smith, Nathan Brown, Michael MaGuire, Trent Robinson all came over here as untried coaches and created an environment where players improved and played as a team. I would like to see Cummins retained as assistant coach. St Hillare should be let go. He's been there far too long and brought nothing to the club. As regards comments about nobody wanting the job lets find out. I think there's loads of coaches wanting a break and where better to get it than a former big club that has underperformed for the last 10 years[/p][/quote]Lets try a basic game plan lads. We'll give it the big lads up front to run in then ......but boss they're sat up in the stands....well we'll chuck a couple of centres in to run it in then 'cos Crabtree and Kopczack will soon struggle from being run into by Chev and Purts...... Sure Shuan Wane would have had them charging in lots better.....I'm frankly amazed that FC managed to get them on the park. Have you actually seen the size of these athletes they are up against. Danny Addy is a quality player to be snapped up next year. makes one in at stand off... Luke George Winger makes one in in the second row and centre. Chev Walker centre gives his all at prop. Young winger fills in at centre and You wonder why there is no structure.....Stick to tiddlywinks.....Yes we will struggle all year but coaching and skill level is not the issue. Poor management and lack of resources yes. FC is a good coach not a miracle worker. You lot need to step back and see reality for what it is. Full side and we'll compete. Maybe not win but compete. Subs bench of a second row a hooker, a winger and a centre. This game is about manning up and they did that. Out muscled but never lacked effort. That takes some coaching when you know you can't compete! scone
  • Score: 1

5:06pm Tue 20 May 14

BierleyBoy says...

Have to feel sorry for Cummins. he can only work with what he's got, and that's not a lot. Better players left to be replaced by injured unwanted fringe players and loan signings.

Can't see anything but a big loss to cats, with the shorter turnaround and the trip out there

Wakefield on 1st June is a must win, so maybe leave out whoever can to give them more time to be ready. Can't see many pay on the gate home fans for that, needs a big promo push with discount offers to get a crowd on.

Green never intended to end up owning the Bulls and he won't be putting any money in. RHP was on BBC at Magic, but he has been very quiet of late, so have the other two.
Have to feel sorry for Cummins. he can only work with what he's got, and that's not a lot. Better players left to be replaced by injured unwanted fringe players and loan signings. Can't see anything but a big loss to cats, with the shorter turnaround and the trip out there Wakefield on 1st June is a must win, so maybe leave out whoever can to give them more time to be ready. Can't see many pay on the gate home fans for that, needs a big promo push with discount offers to get a crowd on. Green never intended to end up owning the Bulls and he won't be putting any money in. RHP was on BBC at Magic, but he has been very quiet of late, so have the other two. BierleyBoy
  • Score: 0

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