It's Warr! But fans can be our secret weapon in Challenge Cup battle, says Bradford Bulls coach

It's Warr! But fans can be our secret weapon in Cup battle, says Bradford Bulls coach

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Francis Cummins believes fan power can again inspire the Bulls when they face Challenge Cup kings Warrington in the quarter-finals.

Cummins’ men were drawn at home to the Wolves last night and will face them over the weekend of June 7-8, while Cougars were handed a trip to Widnes.

It will be the third successive home Cup tie of the season for Bradford and, following Sunday’s stirring 33-20 comeback win over Catalan Dragons, Cummins believes the supporters can again play a pivotal role.

Tony Smith has guided Warrington to three Challenge Cup final wins since 2009 but Cummins said: “The numbers weren’t big on Sunday but the fans found their voice again and that support made a difference.

“There is a reason why Catalan win the penalty count at home more often than not and that’s because their fans are very vocal.

“I said I was proud of the players on Sunday but I was proud of the supporters as well.

“If we can get some more form behind us then I’m sure we’ll get more support against Warrington for what will be a massive game – a quarter-final of the Challenge Cup.”

Cummins learnt his coaching trade under Smith at Leeds and the Bulls chief will cross swords with his former mentor in Super League combat at Odsal on Sunday.

Cummins added: “Tony and I still speak but we want to beat Warrington and they want to beat us – that’s the way it is.

“It’s more about us progressing because ultimately that’s what we want.”

Manase Manuokafoa (hamstring) could miss Sunday’s game but James Donaldson and Dale Ferguson are aiming to return to action, while Cummins could add to his squad before the weekend.

He said: “We’re trying really hard and I’ve got my fingers crossed because we’re going to need numbers. Hopefully something could happen soon.”

Meanwhile, Cougars player-coach Paul March admitted: “We wanted a West Yorkshire derby but it didn’t come out like that.

“Widnes are well supported but I’m sure a lot of Cougars fans will get themselves over there and it should be a good atmosphere.

“It could be an upset – it’s just how they play and how we play.

“But that’s why the Challenge Cup is the greatest knockout cup competition in the world.”

The odds on Leeds winning the Cup for the first time since 1999 shortened when they were drawn at home to Championship leaders Leigh – only their second tie against non Super League opposition since 2010 – while Castleford host holders Wigan.

The draw was made by Great Britain internationals Jason Robinson and Paul Sculthorpe.

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7:29am Tue 29 Apr 14

bradfordbronco says...

Are the RFL going to ask for all our points back from 2013 aswell as the sky money we received? Even TVOR couldn't predict the RFL wanting more of the clubs central funding money back.

Glad i've already decided to boycott all none Bradford Bulls games and events in protest at the way the RFL have treated the Bulls As far as i'm concerned the RFL:can go to hell
Are the RFL going to ask for all our points back from 2013 aswell as the sky money we received? Even TVOR couldn't predict the RFL wanting more of the clubs central funding money back. Glad i've already decided to boycott all none Bradford Bulls games and events in protest at the way the RFL have treated the Bulls As far as i'm concerned the RFL:can go to hell bradfordbronco
  • Score: 0

8:04am Tue 29 Apr 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

bradfordbronco wrote:
Are the RFL going to ask for all our points back from 2013 aswell as the sky money we received? Even TVOR couldn't predict the RFL wanting more of the clubs central funding money back.

Glad i've already decided to boycott all none Bradford Bulls games and events in protest at the way the RFL have treated the Bulls As far as i'm concerned the RFL:can go to hell
So Omar Khan offering to forgo 50% of central funding and agreeing to repayment if the company went insolvent is the RFL's fault.

You'll have to explain that one to us Bronco.

Btw Bierleyboy said this all along in his posts so it's not a revelation that is a suprise.

Why no comments allowed on the actual story?
[quote][p][bold]bradfordbronco[/bold] wrote: Are the RFL going to ask for all our points back from 2013 aswell as the sky money we received? Even TVOR couldn't predict the RFL wanting more of the clubs central funding money back. Glad i've already decided to boycott all none Bradford Bulls games and events in protest at the way the RFL have treated the Bulls As far as i'm concerned the RFL:can go to hell[/p][/quote]So Omar Khan offering to forgo 50% of central funding and agreeing to repayment if the company went insolvent is the RFL's fault. You'll have to explain that one to us Bronco. Btw Bierleyboy said this all along in his posts so it's not a revelation that is a suprise. Why no comments allowed on the actual story? Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 3

8:08am Tue 29 Apr 14

Papa Smurfs Wig says...

I don't know what you're on about but to see Khan waffling and using delaying tactics is bang out of order. The knocking bet is not all that money was used on the club so get it back. He's used the Bulls as an earner and taken the Mick out of the club.
I don't know what you're on about but to see Khan waffling and using delaying tactics is bang out of order. The knocking bet is not all that money was used on the club so get it back. He's used the Bulls as an earner and taken the Mick out of the club. Papa Smurfs Wig
  • Score: 12

8:31am Tue 29 Apr 14

rogerthat! says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
bradfordbronco wrote:
Are the RFL going to ask for all our points back from 2013 aswell as the sky money we received? Even TVOR couldn't predict the RFL wanting more of the clubs central funding money back.

Glad i've already decided to boycott all none Bradford Bulls games and events in protest at the way the RFL have treated the Bulls As far as i'm concerned the RFL:can go to hell
So Omar Khan offering to forgo 50% of central funding and agreeing to repayment if the company went insolvent is the RFL's fault.

You'll have to explain that one to us Bronco.

Btw Bierleyboy said this all along in his posts so it's not a revelation that is a suprise.

Why no comments allowed on the actual story?
I said from day one that Khan, Suitcliffe and Whitcut were suspect. What say all the Fools who supported these Clowns and sang Omar, Omar give us a Wave. What can be said about the LFL??? What future for the Game when it is being run by complete incompetence. Full investigation and Legal action taken. What if we all did not pay our Tax or debts? Mr Suitcliffe.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bradfordbronco[/bold] wrote: Are the RFL going to ask for all our points back from 2013 aswell as the sky money we received? Even TVOR couldn't predict the RFL wanting more of the clubs central funding money back. Glad i've already decided to boycott all none Bradford Bulls games and events in protest at the way the RFL have treated the Bulls As far as i'm concerned the RFL:can go to hell[/p][/quote]So Omar Khan offering to forgo 50% of central funding and agreeing to repayment if the company went insolvent is the RFL's fault. You'll have to explain that one to us Bronco. Btw Bierleyboy said this all along in his posts so it's not a revelation that is a suprise. Why no comments allowed on the actual story?[/p][/quote]I said from day one that Khan, Suitcliffe and Whitcut were suspect. What say all the Fools who supported these Clowns and sang Omar, Omar give us a Wave. What can be said about the LFL??? What future for the Game when it is being run by complete incompetence. Full investigation and Legal action taken. What if we all did not pay our Tax or debts? Mr Suitcliffe. rogerthat!
  • Score: 13

8:43am Tue 29 Apr 14

axelf1963 says...

Back to thread , Spangles said bulls will beat wire .
Back to thread , Spangles said bulls will beat wire . axelf1963
  • Score: -1

8:55am Tue 29 Apr 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Make Khan pay the money back for going insolvent and had it over to the current Bulls who are suffering with a 50% deduction that Khan agreed to.
Make Khan pay the money back for going insolvent and had it over to the current Bulls who are suffering with a 50% deduction that Khan agreed to. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 10

9:07am Tue 29 Apr 14

blue marlin says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Make Khan pay the money back for going insolvent and had it over to the current Bulls who are suffering with a 50% deduction that Khan agreed to.
better still pay off some of the creditors?
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: Make Khan pay the money back for going insolvent and had it over to the current Bulls who are suffering with a 50% deduction that Khan agreed to.[/p][/quote]better still pay off some of the creditors? blue marlin
  • Score: 14

9:40am Tue 29 Apr 14

nochanceagain says...

blue marlin wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote: Make Khan pay the money back for going insolvent and had it over to the current Bulls who are suffering with a 50% deduction that Khan agreed to.
better still pay off some of the creditors?
The RFL are saying they are a creditor aren't they I presume by claiming central funds were for the rugby franchise but instead were used for paying caterers invoices (wonder which restaurants provided it)? Then the RFL owe the money to the bulls surely who can then pay off their creditors?
From illness to bankruptcy will be the call for OK and probably been signing the restaurants to family members for the passed year or so.
Doubt will see much of the money, Sutcliffe should not be keeping his name out of this as well as he is he should be unelectable now but it's Bradford put a red rosette on any farmyard animal and they would still vote it in round Bradford!
[quote][p][bold]blue marlin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: Make Khan pay the money back for going insolvent and had it over to the current Bulls who are suffering with a 50% deduction that Khan agreed to.[/p][/quote]better still pay off some of the creditors?[/p][/quote]The RFL are saying they are a creditor aren't they I presume by claiming central funds were for the rugby franchise but instead were used for paying caterers invoices (wonder which restaurants provided it)? Then the RFL owe the money to the bulls surely who can then pay off their creditors? From illness to bankruptcy will be the call for OK and probably been signing the restaurants to family members for the passed year or so. Doubt will see much of the money, Sutcliffe should not be keeping his name out of this as well as he is he should be unelectable now but it's Bradford put a red rosette on any farmyard animal and they would still vote it in round Bradford! nochanceagain
  • Score: 11

9:43am Tue 29 Apr 14

Bowlingboy says...

Papa Smurfs Wig wrote:
I don't know what you're on about but to see Khan waffling and using delaying tactics is bang out of order. The knocking bet is not all that money was used on the club so get it back. He's used the Bulls as an earner and taken the Mick out of the club.
Have you noticed that the T and A will not let you comment on the OK Story?
[quote][p][bold]Papa Smurfs Wig[/bold] wrote: I don't know what you're on about but to see Khan waffling and using delaying tactics is bang out of order. The knocking bet is not all that money was used on the club so get it back. He's used the Bulls as an earner and taken the Mick out of the club.[/p][/quote]Have you noticed that the T and A will not let you comment on the OK Story? Bowlingboy
  • Score: 7

9:48am Tue 29 Apr 14

Ever positive says...

axelf1963 wrote:
Back to thread , Spangles said bulls will beat wire .
Get help. Its out there for your problem.
[quote][p][bold]axelf1963[/bold] wrote: Back to thread , Spangles said bulls will beat wire .[/p][/quote]Get help. Its out there for your problem. Ever positive
  • Score: 6

10:41am Tue 29 Apr 14

raisemeup says...

Theoretically nothing to do with the newly formed company is it.?
However it's a proposition that no one knew about, as we weren't privy to the actual agreement that was signed by OK in 2012. So the comments by those who say they either knew of this, or NOW know of the situation are completely without foundation.
Frankly I wouldn't profess to know what's going on with the previous company run by OK Bulls Ltd. All I do know is that if Wakefield think they were badly treated by the RFL, we probably would say let's change places and let you take the Sh.. we have to take?

Still I suppose they (RFL) have to find the fare for el supremo's trip down under to accept the job of World leader of the Rugby League
( I understand the RFU were 100% behind this appointment as it saves them a lot of money when marketing the RU take over of the RUGBY game)
Theoretically nothing to do with the newly formed company is it.? However it's a proposition that no one knew about, as we weren't privy to the actual agreement that was signed by OK in 2012. So the comments by those who say they either knew of this, or NOW know of the situation are completely without foundation. Frankly I wouldn't profess to know what's going on with the previous company run by OK Bulls Ltd. All I do know is that if Wakefield think they were badly treated by the RFL, we probably would say let's change places and let you take the Sh.. we have to take? Still I suppose they (RFL) have to find the fare for el supremo's trip down under to accept the job of World leader of the Rugby League ( I understand the RFU were 100% behind this appointment as it saves them a lot of money when marketing the RU take over of the RUGBY game) raisemeup
  • Score: -1

11:24am Tue 29 Apr 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

raisemeup wrote:
Theoretically nothing to do with the newly formed company is it.? However it's a proposition that no one knew about, as we weren't privy to the actual agreement that was signed by OK in 2012. So the comments by those who say they either knew of this, or NOW know of the situation are completely without foundation. Frankly I wouldn't profess to know what's going on with the previous company run by OK Bulls Ltd. All I do know is that if Wakefield think they were badly treated by the RFL, we probably would say let's change places and let you take the Sh.. we have to take? Still I suppose they (RFL) have to find the fare for el supremo's trip down under to accept the job of World leader of the Rugby League ( I understand the RFU were 100% behind this appointment as it saves them a lot of money when marketing the RU take over of the RUGBY game)
Still spouting as if it's all the RFL's fault.

Seems the RFL used this as a way to stop the owner from spending what he couldn't afford to keep the club living within it's means. OK ignored this and now he has to pay the price.

Bierley Boy said this all along so it's laughable that you accuse people of not being in the know just because you weren't in the know. We know from past experience you can't see beyond the end of your nose when it comes to these things, still blaming the RFL I see for Khan's gross mismanagement, and the many mismanagements before. It's as if you are the avatar of Khan on this forum with your buddy Bronco who gave him a such praise when he stepped down with "ill health".

If Khan told me it was the 29th of April today, I'd ask for a second opinion such is the vadility of his words at present.

Any where is Sutcliffe, moaning about something else and keeping well clear of this mess, funny he couldn't keep out the paper when all seemed to be going well.
[quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: Theoretically nothing to do with the newly formed company is it.? However it's a proposition that no one knew about, as we weren't privy to the actual agreement that was signed by OK in 2012. So the comments by those who say they either knew of this, or NOW know of the situation are completely without foundation. Frankly I wouldn't profess to know what's going on with the previous company run by OK Bulls Ltd. All I do know is that if Wakefield think they were badly treated by the RFL, we probably would say let's change places and let you take the Sh.. we have to take? Still I suppose they (RFL) have to find the fare for el supremo's trip down under to accept the job of World leader of the Rugby League ( I understand the RFU were 100% behind this appointment as it saves them a lot of money when marketing the RU take over of the RUGBY game)[/p][/quote]Still spouting as if it's all the RFL's fault. Seems the RFL used this as a way to stop the owner from spending what he couldn't afford to keep the club living within it's means. OK ignored this and now he has to pay the price. Bierley Boy said this all along so it's laughable that you accuse people of not being in the know just because you weren't in the know. We know from past experience you can't see beyond the end of your nose when it comes to these things, still blaming the RFL I see for Khan's gross mismanagement, and the many mismanagements before. It's as if you are the avatar of Khan on this forum with your buddy Bronco who gave him a such praise when he stepped down with "ill health". If Khan told me it was the 29th of April today, I'd ask for a second opinion such is the vadility of his words at present. Any where is Sutcliffe, moaning about something else and keeping well clear of this mess, funny he couldn't keep out the paper when all seemed to be going well. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 6

11:28am Tue 29 Apr 14

Paul from Idle says...

Hi Guys I appear unable to comment at the bottom of the OK feature?
Is it my PC?
Hi Guys I appear unable to comment at the bottom of the OK feature? Is it my PC? Paul from Idle
  • Score: 13

11:33am Tue 29 Apr 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Paul from Idle wrote:
Hi Guys I appear unable to comment at the bottom of the OK feature? Is it my PC?
It's the T&A going into lockdown mode, so many are just discussing it on here instead.
[quote][p][bold]Paul from Idle[/bold] wrote: Hi Guys I appear unable to comment at the bottom of the OK feature? Is it my PC?[/p][/quote]It's the T&A going into lockdown mode, so many are just discussing it on here instead. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 5

1:26pm Tue 29 Apr 14

StevieLad says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
raisemeup wrote:
Theoretically nothing to do with the newly formed company is it.? However it's a proposition that no one knew about, as we weren't privy to the actual agreement that was signed by OK in 2012. So the comments by those who say they either knew of this, or NOW know of the situation are completely without foundation. Frankly I wouldn't profess to know what's going on with the previous company run by OK Bulls Ltd. All I do know is that if Wakefield think they were badly treated by the RFL, we probably would say let's change places and let you take the Sh.. we have to take? Still I suppose they (RFL) have to find the fare for el supremo's trip down under to accept the job of World leader of the Rugby League ( I understand the RFU were 100% behind this appointment as it saves them a lot of money when marketing the RU take over of the RUGBY game)
Still spouting as if it's all the RFL's fault.

Seems the RFL used this as a way to stop the owner from spending what he couldn't afford to keep the club living within it's means. OK ignored this and now he has to pay the price.

Bierley Boy said this all along so it's laughable that you accuse people of not being in the know just because you weren't in the know. We know from past experience you can't see beyond the end of your nose when it comes to these things, still blaming the RFL I see for Khan's gross mismanagement, and the many mismanagements before. It's as if you are the avatar of Khan on this forum with your buddy Bronco who gave him a such praise when he stepped down with "ill health".

If Khan told me it was the 29th of April today, I'd ask for a second opinion such is the vadility of his words at present.

Any where is Sutcliffe, moaning about something else and keeping well clear of this mess, funny he couldn't keep out the paper when all seemed to be going well.
Someone usually turns up to tell you if you haven't seen the bank statements you don't know what's going on. I've never seen Paul McCartney play live but I am pretty confident he plays left handed.

These chumps were too obstinate to see when the writing was on the wall. Reminds me of Adrian Naylor in 2008 angrily denying rumours that Westfield had been mothballed - at best laughable, at worst dangerously misleading.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: Theoretically nothing to do with the newly formed company is it.? However it's a proposition that no one knew about, as we weren't privy to the actual agreement that was signed by OK in 2012. So the comments by those who say they either knew of this, or NOW know of the situation are completely without foundation. Frankly I wouldn't profess to know what's going on with the previous company run by OK Bulls Ltd. All I do know is that if Wakefield think they were badly treated by the RFL, we probably would say let's change places and let you take the Sh.. we have to take? Still I suppose they (RFL) have to find the fare for el supremo's trip down under to accept the job of World leader of the Rugby League ( I understand the RFU were 100% behind this appointment as it saves them a lot of money when marketing the RU take over of the RUGBY game)[/p][/quote]Still spouting as if it's all the RFL's fault. Seems the RFL used this as a way to stop the owner from spending what he couldn't afford to keep the club living within it's means. OK ignored this and now he has to pay the price. Bierley Boy said this all along so it's laughable that you accuse people of not being in the know just because you weren't in the know. We know from past experience you can't see beyond the end of your nose when it comes to these things, still blaming the RFL I see for Khan's gross mismanagement, and the many mismanagements before. It's as if you are the avatar of Khan on this forum with your buddy Bronco who gave him a such praise when he stepped down with "ill health". If Khan told me it was the 29th of April today, I'd ask for a second opinion such is the vadility of his words at present. Any where is Sutcliffe, moaning about something else and keeping well clear of this mess, funny he couldn't keep out the paper when all seemed to be going well.[/p][/quote]Someone usually turns up to tell you if you haven't seen the bank statements you don't know what's going on. I've never seen Paul McCartney play live but I am pretty confident he plays left handed. These chumps were too obstinate to see when the writing was on the wall. Reminds me of Adrian Naylor in 2008 angrily denying rumours that Westfield had been mothballed - at best laughable, at worst dangerously misleading. StevieLad
  • Score: 2

2:02pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

StevieLad wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
raisemeup wrote: Theoretically nothing to do with the newly formed company is it.? However it's a proposition that no one knew about, as we weren't privy to the actual agreement that was signed by OK in 2012. So the comments by those who say they either knew of this, or NOW know of the situation are completely without foundation. Frankly I wouldn't profess to know what's going on with the previous company run by OK Bulls Ltd. All I do know is that if Wakefield think they were badly treated by the RFL, we probably would say let's change places and let you take the Sh.. we have to take? Still I suppose they (RFL) have to find the fare for el supremo's trip down under to accept the job of World leader of the Rugby League ( I understand the RFU were 100% behind this appointment as it saves them a lot of money when marketing the RU take over of the RUGBY game)
Still spouting as if it's all the RFL's fault. Seems the RFL used this as a way to stop the owner from spending what he couldn't afford to keep the club living within it's means. OK ignored this and now he has to pay the price. Bierley Boy said this all along so it's laughable that you accuse people of not being in the know just because you weren't in the know. We know from past experience you can't see beyond the end of your nose when it comes to these things, still blaming the RFL I see for Khan's gross mismanagement, and the many mismanagements before. It's as if you are the avatar of Khan on this forum with your buddy Bronco who gave him a such praise when he stepped down with "ill health". If Khan told me it was the 29th of April today, I'd ask for a second opinion such is the vadility of his words at present. Any where is Sutcliffe, moaning about something else and keeping well clear of this mess, funny he couldn't keep out the paper when all seemed to be going well.
Someone usually turns up to tell you if you haven't seen the bank statements you don't know what's going on. I've never seen Paul McCartney play live but I am pretty confident he plays left handed. These chumps were too obstinate to see when the writing was on the wall. Reminds me of Adrian Naylor in 2008 angrily denying rumours that Westfield had been mothballed - at best laughable, at worst dangerously misleading.
This is one of my favourite posts from one of the clique who constantly tell those in the know to keep quiet.

bradfordbronco says...

Omar saved the club and put it on a firmer foundations. The job was just too big for him. with people like Robbie on board, the club is now set to move forward. We have a decent fan base of loyal supporters . Huddersfield struggled to get 5000 when they finished top of the league and the guy putting the money in is well past retirement age. I can't wait for next season, lets hope the team does well on the pitch and all those that don't get a season ticket pay on the day. That would boost the club coffers even more.

Perhaps sports clubs aren't cheap to run, but RL clubs such as the Bulls should be one of the easiest. Once the full sky money becomes available alongside Money from attendances, sponsorship, merchandising ,food and drink sales etc etc as long as we don't give out stupid pay deals like Hood did with Sykes, Platt, Langley, Halley etc then i'm sure they should come close to breaking even.

Thanks Omar for giving it your best and stepping in when the club was set to fold. I think we'll look back in years to come and fully appreciate how important you were to the club. Most people who come on here and criticize cant even hold down a full time job and have achieved very little in their sad lives. good luck to you in the future and hope to see you enjoying the games next season.
[quote][p][bold]StevieLad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: Theoretically nothing to do with the newly formed company is it.? However it's a proposition that no one knew about, as we weren't privy to the actual agreement that was signed by OK in 2012. So the comments by those who say they either knew of this, or NOW know of the situation are completely without foundation. Frankly I wouldn't profess to know what's going on with the previous company run by OK Bulls Ltd. All I do know is that if Wakefield think they were badly treated by the RFL, we probably would say let's change places and let you take the Sh.. we have to take? Still I suppose they (RFL) have to find the fare for el supremo's trip down under to accept the job of World leader of the Rugby League ( I understand the RFU were 100% behind this appointment as it saves them a lot of money when marketing the RU take over of the RUGBY game)[/p][/quote]Still spouting as if it's all the RFL's fault. Seems the RFL used this as a way to stop the owner from spending what he couldn't afford to keep the club living within it's means. OK ignored this and now he has to pay the price. Bierley Boy said this all along so it's laughable that you accuse people of not being in the know just because you weren't in the know. We know from past experience you can't see beyond the end of your nose when it comes to these things, still blaming the RFL I see for Khan's gross mismanagement, and the many mismanagements before. It's as if you are the avatar of Khan on this forum with your buddy Bronco who gave him a such praise when he stepped down with "ill health". If Khan told me it was the 29th of April today, I'd ask for a second opinion such is the vadility of his words at present. Any where is Sutcliffe, moaning about something else and keeping well clear of this mess, funny he couldn't keep out the paper when all seemed to be going well.[/p][/quote]Someone usually turns up to tell you if you haven't seen the bank statements you don't know what's going on. I've never seen Paul McCartney play live but I am pretty confident he plays left handed. These chumps were too obstinate to see when the writing was on the wall. Reminds me of Adrian Naylor in 2008 angrily denying rumours that Westfield had been mothballed - at best laughable, at worst dangerously misleading.[/p][/quote]This is one of my favourite posts from one of the clique who constantly tell those in the know to keep quiet. [quote][p][bold]bradfordbronco says... [/bold] Omar saved the club and put it on a firmer foundations. The job was just too big for him. with people like Robbie on board, the club is now set to move forward. We have a decent fan base of loyal supporters . Huddersfield struggled to get 5000 when they finished top of the league and the guy putting the money in is well past retirement age. I can't wait for next season, lets hope the team does well on the pitch and all those that don't get a season ticket pay on the day. That would boost the club coffers even more. Perhaps sports clubs aren't cheap to run, but RL clubs such as the Bulls should be one of the easiest. Once the full sky money becomes available alongside Money from attendances, sponsorship, merchandising ,food and drink sales etc etc as long as we don't give out stupid pay deals like Hood did with Sykes, Platt, Langley, Halley etc then i'm sure they should come close to breaking even. Thanks Omar for giving it your best and stepping in when the club was set to fold. I think we'll look back in years to come and fully appreciate how important you were to the club. Most people who come on here and criticize cant even hold down a full time job and have achieved very little in their sad lives. good luck to you in the future and hope to see you enjoying the games next season.[/p][/quote] Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 4

5:18pm Tue 29 Apr 14

raisemeup says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
StevieLad wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
raisemeup wrote: Theoretically nothing to do with the newly formed company is it.? However it's a proposition that no one knew about, as we weren't privy to the actual agreement that was signed by OK in 2012. So the comments by those who say they either knew of this, or NOW know of the situation are completely without foundation. Frankly I wouldn't profess to know what's going on with the previous company run by OK Bulls Ltd. All I do know is that if Wakefield think they were badly treated by the RFL, we probably would say let's change places and let you take the Sh.. we have to take? Still I suppose they (RFL) have to find the fare for el supremo's trip down under to accept the job of World leader of the Rugby League ( I understand the RFU were 100% behind this appointment as it saves them a lot of money when marketing the RU take over of the RUGBY game)
Still spouting as if it's all the RFL's fault. Seems the RFL used this as a way to stop the owner from spending what he couldn't afford to keep the club living within it's means. OK ignored this and now he has to pay the price. Bierley Boy said this all along so it's laughable that you accuse people of not being in the know just because you weren't in the know. We know from past experience you can't see beyond the end of your nose when it comes to these things, still blaming the RFL I see for Khan's gross mismanagement, and the many mismanagements before. It's as if you are the avatar of Khan on this forum with your buddy Bronco who gave him a such praise when he stepped down with "ill health". If Khan told me it was the 29th of April today, I'd ask for a second opinion such is the vadility of his words at present. Any where is Sutcliffe, moaning about something else and keeping well clear of this mess, funny he couldn't keep out the paper when all seemed to be going well.
Someone usually turns up to tell you if you haven't seen the bank statements you don't know what's going on. I've never seen Paul McCartney play live but I am pretty confident he plays left handed. These chumps were too obstinate to see when the writing was on the wall. Reminds me of Adrian Naylor in 2008 angrily denying rumours that Westfield had been mothballed - at best laughable, at worst dangerously misleading.
This is one of my favourite posts from one of the clique who constantly tell those in the know to keep quiet.

bradfordbronco says...

Omar saved the club and put it on a firmer foundations. The job was just too big for him. with people like Robbie on board, the club is now set to move forward. We have a decent fan base of loyal supporters . Huddersfield struggled to get 5000 when they finished top of the league and the guy putting the money in is well past retirement age. I can't wait for next season, lets hope the team does well on the pitch and all those that don't get a season ticket pay on the day. That would boost the club coffers even more.

Perhaps sports clubs aren't cheap to run, but RL clubs such as the Bulls should be one of the easiest. Once the full sky money becomes available alongside Money from attendances, sponsorship, merchandising ,food and drink sales etc etc as long as we don't give out stupid pay deals like Hood did with Sykes, Platt, Langley, Halley etc then i'm sure they should come close to breaking even.

Thanks Omar for giving it your best and stepping in when the club was set to fold. I think we'll look back in years to come and fully appreciate how important you were to the club. Most people who come on here and criticize cant even hold down a full time job and have achieved very little in their sad lives. good luck to you in the future and hope to see you enjoying the games next season.
Well said BB it is time it was said. We wouldn't have A Club to support if it had not have been for Omar - and others that stood up and carried on under extremely difficult circumstances.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StevieLad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: Theoretically nothing to do with the newly formed company is it.? However it's a proposition that no one knew about, as we weren't privy to the actual agreement that was signed by OK in 2012. So the comments by those who say they either knew of this, or NOW know of the situation are completely without foundation. Frankly I wouldn't profess to know what's going on with the previous company run by OK Bulls Ltd. All I do know is that if Wakefield think they were badly treated by the RFL, we probably would say let's change places and let you take the Sh.. we have to take? Still I suppose they (RFL) have to find the fare for el supremo's trip down under to accept the job of World leader of the Rugby League ( I understand the RFU were 100% behind this appointment as it saves them a lot of money when marketing the RU take over of the RUGBY game)[/p][/quote]Still spouting as if it's all the RFL's fault. Seems the RFL used this as a way to stop the owner from spending what he couldn't afford to keep the club living within it's means. OK ignored this and now he has to pay the price. Bierley Boy said this all along so it's laughable that you accuse people of not being in the know just because you weren't in the know. We know from past experience you can't see beyond the end of your nose when it comes to these things, still blaming the RFL I see for Khan's gross mismanagement, and the many mismanagements before. It's as if you are the avatar of Khan on this forum with your buddy Bronco who gave him a such praise when he stepped down with "ill health". If Khan told me it was the 29th of April today, I'd ask for a second opinion such is the vadility of his words at present. Any where is Sutcliffe, moaning about something else and keeping well clear of this mess, funny he couldn't keep out the paper when all seemed to be going well.[/p][/quote]Someone usually turns up to tell you if you haven't seen the bank statements you don't know what's going on. I've never seen Paul McCartney play live but I am pretty confident he plays left handed. These chumps were too obstinate to see when the writing was on the wall. Reminds me of Adrian Naylor in 2008 angrily denying rumours that Westfield had been mothballed - at best laughable, at worst dangerously misleading.[/p][/quote]This is one of my favourite posts from one of the clique who constantly tell those in the know to keep quiet. [quote][p][bold]bradfordbronco says... [/bold] Omar saved the club and put it on a firmer foundations. The job was just too big for him. with people like Robbie on board, the club is now set to move forward. We have a decent fan base of loyal supporters . Huddersfield struggled to get 5000 when they finished top of the league and the guy putting the money in is well past retirement age. I can't wait for next season, lets hope the team does well on the pitch and all those that don't get a season ticket pay on the day. That would boost the club coffers even more. Perhaps sports clubs aren't cheap to run, but RL clubs such as the Bulls should be one of the easiest. Once the full sky money becomes available alongside Money from attendances, sponsorship, merchandising ,food and drink sales etc etc as long as we don't give out stupid pay deals like Hood did with Sykes, Platt, Langley, Halley etc then i'm sure they should come close to breaking even. Thanks Omar for giving it your best and stepping in when the club was set to fold. I think we'll look back in years to come and fully appreciate how important you were to the club. Most people who come on here and criticize cant even hold down a full time job and have achieved very little in their sad lives. good luck to you in the future and hope to see you enjoying the games next season.[/p][/quote][/p][/quote]Well said BB it is time it was said. We wouldn't have A Club to support if it had not have been for Omar - and others that stood up and carried on under extremely difficult circumstances. raisemeup
  • Score: -3

6:22pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

What part of putting it on firmer foundations impressed you most Raisemeup?
What part of putting it on firmer foundations impressed you most Raisemeup? Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 4

7:58pm Tue 29 Apr 14

raisemeup says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
What part of putting it on firmer foundations impressed you most Raisemeup?
You seem to have the inability to read what was written as an article, in favour of choosing the bits you seem to think are an indication of the writers total outlook on life?
I never discussed every word written and firmer foundations was not said by me?
However BB is correct. when he said Omar put us on firmer foundations if you remember we were 24 hours from folding altogether so we couldn't get worse than being out of existence, so being saved and finishing in 10th place is firmer than none??

Please go on the RAB site, and attempt to mix your bigoted ideas with people who would not tolerate your unfounded or unwarranted attacks on those people who you hide your identity from.
If you have issues with Omar Khan , GS and others, show you aren't afraid to let us all know your sources and of course your name?

Same with those others who you say Knew? Are you just like other trolls, snivelling cowardly and insignificant????

I actually don't think that by the way....but you do go off at a tangent for the sake of what you see is your extra insight to all things?
However your thoughts are totally irrelevant to the majority, and like Noble and Honest (to give him his RAB monica) unproven and vindictive against certain people you appear to have a vendetta against.
Incidentally why did it matter what happened with Westlife in 2008, and why was the statement DANGEROUSLY misleading? To whom was it misleading to? Did knowing about it alter the course of History? And I actually didn't know Paul Mc Cartney was left handed (nor do I care!)
Cant you see how puerile your comments are??? Very sad.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: What part of putting it on firmer foundations impressed you most Raisemeup?[/p][/quote]You seem to have the inability to read what was written as an article, in favour of choosing the bits you seem to think are an indication of the writers total outlook on life? I never discussed every word written and firmer foundations was not said by me? However BB is correct. when he said Omar put us on firmer foundations if you remember we were 24 hours from folding altogether so we couldn't get worse than being out of existence, so being saved and finishing in 10th place is firmer than none?? Please go on the RAB site, and attempt to mix your bigoted ideas with people who would not tolerate your unfounded or unwarranted attacks on those people who you hide your identity from. If you have issues with Omar Khan , GS and others, show you aren't afraid to let us all know your sources and of course your name? Same with those others who you say Knew? Are you just like other trolls, snivelling cowardly and insignificant???? I actually don't think that by the way....but you do go off at a tangent for the sake of what you see is your extra insight to all things? However your thoughts are totally irrelevant to the majority, and like Noble and Honest (to give him his RAB monica) unproven and vindictive against certain people you appear to have a vendetta against. Incidentally why did it matter what happened with Westlife in 2008, and why was the statement DANGEROUSLY misleading? To whom was it misleading to? Did knowing about it alter the course of History? And I actually didn't know Paul Mc Cartney was left handed (nor do I care!) Cant you see how puerile your comments are??? Very sad. raisemeup
  • Score: -4

8:06pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

raisemeup wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
What part of putting it on firmer foundations impressed you most Raisemeup?
You seem to have the inability to read what was written as an article, in favour of choosing the bits you seem to think are an indication of the writers total outlook on life?
I never discussed every word written and firmer foundations was not said by me?
However BB is correct. when he said Omar put us on firmer foundations if you remember we were 24 hours from folding altogether so we couldn't get worse than being out of existence, so being saved and finishing in 10th place is firmer than none??

Please go on the RAB site, and attempt to mix your bigoted ideas with people who would not tolerate your unfounded or unwarranted attacks on those people who you hide your identity from.
If you have issues with Omar Khan , GS and others, show you aren't afraid to let us all know your sources and of course your name?

Same with those others who you say Knew? Are you just like other trolls, snivelling cowardly and insignificant????

I actually don't think that by the way....but you do go off at a tangent for the sake of what you see is your extra insight to all things?
However your thoughts are totally irrelevant to the majority, and like Noble and Honest (to give him his RAB monica) unproven and vindictive against certain people you appear to have a vendetta against.
Incidentally why did it matter what happened with Westlife in 2008, and why was the statement DANGEROUSLY misleading? To whom was it misleading to? Did knowing about it alter the course of History? And I actually didn't know Paul Mc Cartney was left handed (nor do I care!)
Cant you see how puerile your comments are??? Very sad.
Westlife, who mentioned Westlife?

Also if we are going to go on about picking the club up 24 hours from death, thats where he left it to. He didn't leave it in 10th, he left it in admin and without Greens input possible liquidation. Thats where he left it. Very firm foundations.
[quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: What part of putting it on firmer foundations impressed you most Raisemeup?[/p][/quote]You seem to have the inability to read what was written as an article, in favour of choosing the bits you seem to think are an indication of the writers total outlook on life? I never discussed every word written and firmer foundations was not said by me? However BB is correct. when he said Omar put us on firmer foundations if you remember we were 24 hours from folding altogether so we couldn't get worse than being out of existence, so being saved and finishing in 10th place is firmer than none?? Please go on the RAB site, and attempt to mix your bigoted ideas with people who would not tolerate your unfounded or unwarranted attacks on those people who you hide your identity from. If you have issues with Omar Khan , GS and others, show you aren't afraid to let us all know your sources and of course your name? Same with those others who you say Knew? Are you just like other trolls, snivelling cowardly and insignificant???? I actually don't think that by the way....but you do go off at a tangent for the sake of what you see is your extra insight to all things? However your thoughts are totally irrelevant to the majority, and like Noble and Honest (to give him his RAB monica) unproven and vindictive against certain people you appear to have a vendetta against. Incidentally why did it matter what happened with Westlife in 2008, and why was the statement DANGEROUSLY misleading? To whom was it misleading to? Did knowing about it alter the course of History? And I actually didn't know Paul Mc Cartney was left handed (nor do I care!) Cant you see how puerile your comments are??? Very sad.[/p][/quote]Westlife, who mentioned Westlife? Also if we are going to go on about picking the club up 24 hours from death, thats where he left it to. He didn't leave it in 10th, he left it in admin and without Greens input possible liquidation. Thats where he left it. Very firm foundations. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 2

8:19pm Tue 29 Apr 14

col 64 says...

Tvor et al forgive me but I didn't notice any mention of mr Kahn and his problems in the above piece concerning the forthcoming games against the wire so can you please tell me why you see fit to discuss,debate and generally insult bulls supporters who would rather discuss how the team is shaping up to face the upcoming games than listen to your agenda ridden diatribe.
Tvor et al forgive me but I didn't notice any mention of mr Kahn and his problems in the above piece concerning the forthcoming games against the wire so can you please tell me why you see fit to discuss,debate and generally insult bulls supporters who would rather discuss how the team is shaping up to face the upcoming games than listen to your agenda ridden diatribe. col 64
  • Score: 0

8:20pm Tue 29 Apr 14

StevieLad says...

raisemeup wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
What part of putting it on firmer foundations impressed you most Raisemeup?
You seem to have the inability to read what was written as an article, in favour of choosing the bits you seem to think are an indication of the writers total outlook on life?
I never discussed every word written and firmer foundations was not said by me?
However BB is correct. when he said Omar put us on firmer foundations if you remember we were 24 hours from folding altogether so we couldn't get worse than being out of existence, so being saved and finishing in 10th place is firmer than none??

Please go on the RAB site, and attempt to mix your bigoted ideas with people who would not tolerate your unfounded or unwarranted attacks on those people who you hide your identity from.
If you have issues with Omar Khan , GS and others, show you aren't afraid to let us all know your sources and of course your name?

Same with those others who you say Knew? Are you just like other trolls, snivelling cowardly and insignificant????

I actually don't think that by the way....but you do go off at a tangent for the sake of what you see is your extra insight to all things?
However your thoughts are totally irrelevant to the majority, and like Noble and Honest (to give him his RAB monica) unproven and vindictive against certain people you appear to have a vendetta against.
Incidentally why did it matter what happened with Westlife in 2008, and why was the statement DANGEROUSLY misleading? To whom was it misleading to? Did knowing about it alter the course of History? And I actually didn't know Paul Mc Cartney was left handed (nor do I care!)
Cant you see how puerile your comments are??? Very sad.
The West life fixation doesn't stop at your username, then. Hahaha
[quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: What part of putting it on firmer foundations impressed you most Raisemeup?[/p][/quote]You seem to have the inability to read what was written as an article, in favour of choosing the bits you seem to think are an indication of the writers total outlook on life? I never discussed every word written and firmer foundations was not said by me? However BB is correct. when he said Omar put us on firmer foundations if you remember we were 24 hours from folding altogether so we couldn't get worse than being out of existence, so being saved and finishing in 10th place is firmer than none?? Please go on the RAB site, and attempt to mix your bigoted ideas with people who would not tolerate your unfounded or unwarranted attacks on those people who you hide your identity from. If you have issues with Omar Khan , GS and others, show you aren't afraid to let us all know your sources and of course your name? Same with those others who you say Knew? Are you just like other trolls, snivelling cowardly and insignificant???? I actually don't think that by the way....but you do go off at a tangent for the sake of what you see is your extra insight to all things? However your thoughts are totally irrelevant to the majority, and like Noble and Honest (to give him his RAB monica) unproven and vindictive against certain people you appear to have a vendetta against. Incidentally why did it matter what happened with Westlife in 2008, and why was the statement DANGEROUSLY misleading? To whom was it misleading to? Did knowing about it alter the course of History? And I actually didn't know Paul Mc Cartney was left handed (nor do I care!) Cant you see how puerile your comments are??? Very sad.[/p][/quote]The West life fixation doesn't stop at your username, then. Hahaha StevieLad
  • Score: 3

8:36pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

col 64 wrote:
Tvor et al forgive me but I didn't notice any mention of mr Kahn and his problems in the above piece concerning the forthcoming games against the wire so can you please tell me why you see fit to discuss,debate and generally insult bulls supporters who would rather discuss how the team is shaping up to face the upcoming games than listen to your agenda ridden diatribe.
Get the T&A to open comments on the actual story and I will happily post on there.
BTW BradfordBronco was actually the first to post about the subject not me.
[quote][p][bold]col 64[/bold] wrote: Tvor et al forgive me but I didn't notice any mention of mr Kahn and his problems in the above piece concerning the forthcoming games against the wire so can you please tell me why you see fit to discuss,debate and generally insult bulls supporters who would rather discuss how the team is shaping up to face the upcoming games than listen to your agenda ridden diatribe.[/p][/quote]Get the T&A to open comments on the actual story and I will happily post on there. BTW BradfordBronco was actually the first to post about the subject not me. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 0

8:56pm Tue 29 Apr 14

col 64 says...

Myself i think that given the encouraging performance by the lads on Sunday and the absence of quite a few of the wires key players we could quite easily produce another upset.might I add that I was quite pleased to see quite a few Catalan supporters at the game on Sunday certainly more than the broncos brought with them earlier in the season and I must admit I'm looking forward to the game at the stadeBrutus in just over three weeks time,nice little ground and very nice and knowledgable fans.
Myself i think that given the encouraging performance by the lads on Sunday and the absence of quite a few of the wires key players we could quite easily produce another upset.might I add that I was quite pleased to see quite a few Catalan supporters at the game on Sunday certainly more than the broncos brought with them earlier in the season and I must admit I'm looking forward to the game at the stadeBrutus in just over three weeks time,nice little ground and very nice and knowledgable fans. col 64
  • Score: 1

9:24pm Tue 29 Apr 14

AUGUST1964 says...

raisemeup wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
What part of putting it on firmer foundations impressed you most Raisemeup?
You seem to have the inability to read what was written as an article, in favour of choosing the bits you seem to think are an indication of the writers total outlook on life?
I never discussed every word written and firmer foundations was not said by me?
However BB is correct. when he said Omar put us on firmer foundations if you remember we were 24 hours from folding altogether so we couldn't get worse than being out of existence, so being saved and finishing in 10th place is firmer than none??

Please go on the RAB site, and attempt to mix your bigoted ideas with people who would not tolerate your unfounded or unwarranted attacks on those people who you hide your identity from.
If you have issues with Omar Khan , GS and others, show you aren't afraid to let us all know your sources and of course your name?

Same with those others who you say Knew? Are you just like other trolls, snivelling cowardly and insignificant????

I actually don't think that by the way....but you do go off at a tangent for the sake of what you see is your extra insight to all things?
However your thoughts are totally irrelevant to the majority, and like Noble and Honest (to give him his RAB monica) unproven and vindictive against certain people you appear to have a vendetta against.
Incidentally why did it matter what happened with Westlife in 2008, and why was the statement DANGEROUSLY misleading? To whom was it misleading to? Did knowing about it alter the course of History? And I actually didn't know Paul Mc Cartney was left handed (nor do I care!)
Cant you see how puerile your comments are??? Very sad.
He's not a troll he's a sniper with a vendetta and he posts on here usng other names(Bierley boy)
I am getting some amusement from his posts on here,like almost every day last week when he was wetting himself to know the outcome of the creditors meeting
If you read between the lines of his post you can quite easily figure out the type of person he is,small minded,bitter and very very sad.
[quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: What part of putting it on firmer foundations impressed you most Raisemeup?[/p][/quote]You seem to have the inability to read what was written as an article, in favour of choosing the bits you seem to think are an indication of the writers total outlook on life? I never discussed every word written and firmer foundations was not said by me? However BB is correct. when he said Omar put us on firmer foundations if you remember we were 24 hours from folding altogether so we couldn't get worse than being out of existence, so being saved and finishing in 10th place is firmer than none?? Please go on the RAB site, and attempt to mix your bigoted ideas with people who would not tolerate your unfounded or unwarranted attacks on those people who you hide your identity from. If you have issues with Omar Khan , GS and others, show you aren't afraid to let us all know your sources and of course your name? Same with those others who you say Knew? Are you just like other trolls, snivelling cowardly and insignificant???? I actually don't think that by the way....but you do go off at a tangent for the sake of what you see is your extra insight to all things? However your thoughts are totally irrelevant to the majority, and like Noble and Honest (to give him his RAB monica) unproven and vindictive against certain people you appear to have a vendetta against. Incidentally why did it matter what happened with Westlife in 2008, and why was the statement DANGEROUSLY misleading? To whom was it misleading to? Did knowing about it alter the course of History? And I actually didn't know Paul Mc Cartney was left handed (nor do I care!) Cant you see how puerile your comments are??? Very sad.[/p][/quote]He's not a troll he's a sniper with a vendetta and he posts on here usng other names(Bierley boy) I am getting some amusement from his posts on here,like almost every day last week when he was wetting himself to know the outcome of the creditors meeting If you read between the lines of his post you can quite easily figure out the type of person he is,small minded,bitter and very very sad. AUGUST1964
  • Score: 0

10:06pm Tue 29 Apr 14

scone says...

can the trolls and keyboard warriors please go flay themselves or each other for that matter in an appropriate quiet place that does not mean I have to trawl through endless drivel to get to a comment I may or may not agree with but one I can respect. if you knew so much you chould have taken appropriate action at the time to prevent this debacle. If you were powerless then or ambivalent then you still will be so your words are pointless and worthless. Please quote sources for your insight or do one. Please.
I think that the Bulls given more composure could do well against Warrington but if they are chasing the game it could end up another car crash. I'll see sunday I suppose. COYB
can the trolls and keyboard warriors please go flay themselves or each other for that matter in an appropriate quiet place that does not mean I have to trawl through endless drivel to get to a comment I may or may not agree with but one I can respect. if you knew so much you chould have taken appropriate action at the time to prevent this debacle. If you were powerless then or ambivalent then you still will be so your words are pointless and worthless. Please quote sources for your insight or do one. Please. I think that the Bulls given more composure could do well against Warrington but if they are chasing the game it could end up another car crash. I'll see sunday I suppose. COYB scone
  • Score: -1

10:58pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

AUGUST1964 wrote:
raisemeup wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
What part of putting it on firmer foundations impressed you most Raisemeup?
You seem to have the inability to read what was written as an article, in favour of choosing the bits you seem to think are an indication of the writers total outlook on life?
I never discussed every word written and firmer foundations was not said by me?
However BB is correct. when he said Omar put us on firmer foundations if you remember we were 24 hours from folding altogether so we couldn't get worse than being out of existence, so being saved and finishing in 10th place is firmer than none??

Please go on the RAB site, and attempt to mix your bigoted ideas with people who would not tolerate your unfounded or unwarranted attacks on those people who you hide your identity from.
If you have issues with Omar Khan , GS and others, show you aren't afraid to let us all know your sources and of course your name?

Same with those others who you say Knew? Are you just like other trolls, snivelling cowardly and insignificant????

I actually don't think that by the way....but you do go off at a tangent for the sake of what you see is your extra insight to all things?
However your thoughts are totally irrelevant to the majority, and like Noble and Honest (to give him his RAB monica) unproven and vindictive against certain people you appear to have a vendetta against.
Incidentally why did it matter what happened with Westlife in 2008, and why was the statement DANGEROUSLY misleading? To whom was it misleading to? Did knowing about it alter the course of History? And I actually didn't know Paul Mc Cartney was left handed (nor do I care!)
Cant you see how puerile your comments are??? Very sad.
He's not a troll he's a sniper with a vendetta and he posts on here usng other names(Bierley boy)
I am getting some amusement from his posts on here,like almost every day last week when he was wetting himself to know the outcome of the creditors meeting
If you read between the lines of his post you can quite easily figure out the type of person he is,small minded,bitter and very very sad.
Evening Viking.
[quote][p][bold]AUGUST1964[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: What part of putting it on firmer foundations impressed you most Raisemeup?[/p][/quote]You seem to have the inability to read what was written as an article, in favour of choosing the bits you seem to think are an indication of the writers total outlook on life? I never discussed every word written and firmer foundations was not said by me? However BB is correct. when he said Omar put us on firmer foundations if you remember we were 24 hours from folding altogether so we couldn't get worse than being out of existence, so being saved and finishing in 10th place is firmer than none?? Please go on the RAB site, and attempt to mix your bigoted ideas with people who would not tolerate your unfounded or unwarranted attacks on those people who you hide your identity from. If you have issues with Omar Khan , GS and others, show you aren't afraid to let us all know your sources and of course your name? Same with those others who you say Knew? Are you just like other trolls, snivelling cowardly and insignificant???? I actually don't think that by the way....but you do go off at a tangent for the sake of what you see is your extra insight to all things? However your thoughts are totally irrelevant to the majority, and like Noble and Honest (to give him his RAB monica) unproven and vindictive against certain people you appear to have a vendetta against. Incidentally why did it matter what happened with Westlife in 2008, and why was the statement DANGEROUSLY misleading? To whom was it misleading to? Did knowing about it alter the course of History? And I actually didn't know Paul Mc Cartney was left handed (nor do I care!) Cant you see how puerile your comments are??? Very sad.[/p][/quote]He's not a troll he's a sniper with a vendetta and he posts on here usng other names(Bierley boy) I am getting some amusement from his posts on here,like almost every day last week when he was wetting himself to know the outcome of the creditors meeting If you read between the lines of his post you can quite easily figure out the type of person he is,small minded,bitter and very very sad.[/p][/quote]Evening Viking. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 2

11:07pm Tue 29 Apr 14

axelf1963 says...

He will deny it again but we all know its obvious.
He will deny it again but we all know its obvious. axelf1963
  • Score: 1

11:27pm Tue 29 Apr 14

bradfordbronco says...

Hang on a minute I've been a work at all day and out all evening. I've only just spotted TVOR has been been busy researching my old posts and asking me for answers. I don't want him to feel like i'm dodging him like he does on many occasions when i ask him a straight forward question.

I stand by all my previous comments. I don't believe Omar is some kind of James Bond Villain looking to take over the world. I don't believe he got involved to make money or fleece the club. I don't believe he gas taken any money out of the club.

The club was bust when Omar took over. We simply wouldn't be in SL if he hadn't taken the club on. Fact nobody else has even claimed they would have taken the club on if Omar hadn't. there were a few bids but they all pulled out because of the RFL's penalties.

I actually spoke to Blake Solly in 2012 before whilst the club was still in admin and he told me it would cost approx £4m per year to fund a SL club.
The fact is that after a year of omar running the club it owed approx £1m would suggest to me that £3m came from other sources.

Season tickets sales weren't as good as expected approx £1m . We got approx £0.9m from central funding, which was approx 700,000 less than all the other clubs got. and which they now want back!!! we got a loan of £200,000 from the council. If we got £500,000 from Sponsorship etc it still leaves a hole of approx £1.5m to fund the club which had to be paid for by somebody. I think Omar probably lost about £500,000 over the course of the season.

Looking back he could have done things better. Maybe not been so optimistic about the level of support he would get through the turnstiles. He could have been helped and advised more by the governing body. He definitely didn't get involved to make money.

The fact is, it costs money to run a SL club. The Bulls as members of SL and playied in matches shown on TV and were entitled like all the other clubs to a FULL share of TV money never mind the reduced amount Omar had to agree to. The fact that the RFL are now hounding Omar for the central funding money is just ridiculous. How can any club trust the RFL. They all build into their budgets the central funding and now the RFL is saying they can take it back any time they want. Are they trying to destabilise the clubs and put off investors.

In short that's why I think its the RFL fault. Any money we received from central funding was spent on the club to actually compete in SL which is what the RFL supposedly wanted.

Anyway it so late now I won't have time to read about and pass judgement on BCFC. Never mind read all TVOR past comments. What a shame. Hours of endless fun missed out on
Hang on a minute I've been a work at all day and out all evening. I've only just spotted TVOR has been been busy researching my old posts and asking me for answers. I don't want him to feel like i'm dodging him like he does on many occasions when i ask him a straight forward question. I stand by all my previous comments. I don't believe Omar is some kind of James Bond Villain looking to take over the world. I don't believe he got involved to make money or fleece the club. I don't believe he gas taken any money out of the club. The club was bust when Omar took over. We simply wouldn't be in SL if he hadn't taken the club on. Fact nobody else has even claimed they would have taken the club on if Omar hadn't. there were a few bids but they all pulled out because of the RFL's penalties. I actually spoke to Blake Solly in 2012 before whilst the club was still in admin and he told me it would cost approx £4m per year to fund a SL club. The fact is that after a year of omar running the club it owed approx £1m would suggest to me that £3m came from other sources. Season tickets sales weren't as good as expected approx £1m . We got approx £0.9m from central funding, which was approx 700,000 less than all the other clubs got. and which they now want back!!! we got a loan of £200,000 from the council. If we got £500,000 from Sponsorship etc it still leaves a hole of approx £1.5m to fund the club which had to be paid for by somebody. I think Omar probably lost about £500,000 over the course of the season. Looking back he could have done things better. Maybe not been so optimistic about the level of support he would get through the turnstiles. He could have been helped and advised more by the governing body. He definitely didn't get involved to make money. The fact is, it costs money to run a SL club. The Bulls as members of SL and playied in matches shown on TV and were entitled like all the other clubs to a FULL share of TV money never mind the reduced amount Omar had to agree to. The fact that the RFL are now hounding Omar for the central funding money is just ridiculous. How can any club trust the RFL. They all build into their budgets the central funding and now the RFL is saying they can take it back any time they want. Are they trying to destabilise the clubs and put off investors. In short that's why I think its the RFL fault. Any money we received from central funding was spent on the club to actually compete in SL which is what the RFL supposedly wanted. Anyway it so late now I won't have time to read about and pass judgement on BCFC. Never mind read all TVOR past comments. What a shame. Hours of endless fun missed out on bradfordbronco
  • Score: 3

2:45am Wed 30 Apr 14

Arhmen Noleg says...

raisemeup wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
What part of putting it on firmer foundations impressed you most Raisemeup?
You seem to have the inability to read what was written as an article, in favour of choosing the bits you seem to think are an indication of the writers total outlook on life?
I never discussed every word written and firmer foundations was not said by me?
However BB is correct. when he said Omar put us on firmer foundations if you remember we were 24 hours from folding altogether so we couldn't get worse than being out of existence, so being saved and finishing in 10th place is firmer than none??

Please go on the RAB site, and attempt to mix your bigoted ideas with people who would not tolerate your unfounded or unwarranted attacks on those people who you hide your identity from.
If you have issues with Omar Khan , GS and others, show you aren't afraid to let us all know your sources and of course your name?

Same with those others who you say Knew? Are you just like other trolls, snivelling cowardly and insignificant????

I actually don't think that by the way....but you do go off at a tangent for the sake of what you see is your extra insight to all things?
However your thoughts are totally irrelevant to the majority, and like Noble and Honest (to give him his RAB monica) unproven and vindictive against certain people you appear to have a vendetta against.
Incidentally why did it matter what happened with Westlife in 2008, and why was the statement DANGEROUSLY misleading? To whom was it misleading to? Did knowing about it alter the course of History? And I actually didn't know Paul Mc Cartney was left handed (nor do I care!)
Cant you see how puerile your comments are??? Very sad.
God this man I weird.
Even as the evidence unfolds as to the shambles ,we are all embittered vindictive nasty nasty insignificant cowardy bigoted unfounded unwarranted irrelvent sad vendetta held nonentities.

Time to get real Raisemup.
The truth of the shambles hurts us too.
Bronco.
What Blake Solly told you is spot on.
In the year o OK the Bulls needed £4 million.
They achieved £2.5 million.

The shortfall Is what is owed out in the insolvency.
Do you think the RFL forgot to tell OK?

No they did not.
That is why they held him to personal guarantees .
He could have cut costs as Moore Watt and Calvert were trying.

Sadly all too late
No comments allowed on insolvency thread because of all the Legal Actions purported to be coming about.

Khan v Moore Witless
Khan v Administrater
Khan v RFL
Khan v The World.
By gollly he must have a few spare millions to take that lot on.
Pity he did not use it to pay a few people.
What a sad man.
And people on here still defend him.

Sutcliffe and Greenwood......fools for becoming directors last April as the brown stuff flowed and the toilet paper spent.
More will be revealed.
But we will still be trolls ad liars.
Some people are so easily led.
Now get back off the couch BrianYou know your not allowed. xx Family Guy forever.Whenever I see Brian I think of you.Woof.
[quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: What part of putting it on firmer foundations impressed you most Raisemeup?[/p][/quote]You seem to have the inability to read what was written as an article, in favour of choosing the bits you seem to think are an indication of the writers total outlook on life? I never discussed every word written and firmer foundations was not said by me? However BB is correct. when he said Omar put us on firmer foundations if you remember we were 24 hours from folding altogether so we couldn't get worse than being out of existence, so being saved and finishing in 10th place is firmer than none?? Please go on the RAB site, and attempt to mix your bigoted ideas with people who would not tolerate your unfounded or unwarranted attacks on those people who you hide your identity from. If you have issues with Omar Khan , GS and others, show you aren't afraid to let us all know your sources and of course your name? Same with those others who you say Knew? Are you just like other trolls, snivelling cowardly and insignificant???? I actually don't think that by the way....but you do go off at a tangent for the sake of what you see is your extra insight to all things? However your thoughts are totally irrelevant to the majority, and like Noble and Honest (to give him his RAB monica) unproven and vindictive against certain people you appear to have a vendetta against. Incidentally why did it matter what happened with Westlife in 2008, and why was the statement DANGEROUSLY misleading? To whom was it misleading to? Did knowing about it alter the course of History? And I actually didn't know Paul Mc Cartney was left handed (nor do I care!) Cant you see how puerile your comments are??? Very sad.[/p][/quote]God this man I weird. Even as the evidence unfolds as to the shambles ,we are all embittered vindictive nasty nasty insignificant cowardy bigoted unfounded unwarranted irrelvent sad vendetta held nonentities. Time to get real Raisemup. The truth of the shambles hurts us too. Bronco. What Blake Solly told you is spot on. In the year o OK the Bulls needed £4 million. They achieved £2.5 million. The shortfall Is what is owed out in the insolvency. Do you think the RFL forgot to tell OK? No they did not. That is why they held him to personal guarantees . He could have cut costs as Moore Watt and Calvert were trying. Sadly all too late No comments allowed on insolvency thread because of all the Legal Actions purported to be coming about. Khan v Moore Witless Khan v Administrater Khan v RFL Khan v The World. By gollly he must have a few spare millions to take that lot on. Pity he did not use it to pay a few people. What a sad man. And people on here still defend him. Sutcliffe and Greenwood......fools for becoming directors last April as the brown stuff flowed and the toilet paper spent. More will be revealed. But we will still be trolls ad liars. Some people are so easily led. Now get back off the couch BrianYou know your not allowed. xx Family Guy forever.Whenever I see Brian I think of you.Woof. Arhmen Noleg
  • Score: 3

3:02am Wed 30 Apr 14

Arhmen Noleg says...

Arhmen Noleg wrote:
raisemeup wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
What part of putting it on firmer foundations impressed you most Raisemeup?
You seem to have the inability to read what was written as an article, in favour of choosing the bits you seem to think are an indication of the writers total outlook on life?
I never discussed every word written and firmer foundations was not said by me?
However BB is correct. when he said Omar put us on firmer foundations if you remember we were 24 hours from folding altogether so we couldn't get worse than being out of existence, so being saved and finishing in 10th place is firmer than none??

Please go on the RAB site, and attempt to mix your bigoted ideas with people who would not tolerate your unfounded or unwarranted attacks on those people who you hide your identity from.
If you have issues with Omar Khan , GS and others, show you aren't afraid to let us all know your sources and of course your name?

Same with those others who you say Knew? Are you just like other trolls, snivelling cowardly and insignificant????

I actually don't think that by the way....but you do go off at a tangent for the sake of what you see is your extra insight to all things?
However your thoughts are totally irrelevant to the majority, and like Noble and Honest (to give him his RAB monica) unproven and vindictive against certain people you appear to have a vendetta against.
Incidentally why did it matter what happened with Westlife in 2008, and why was the statement DANGEROUSLY misleading? To whom was it misleading to? Did knowing about it alter the course of History? And I actually didn't know Paul Mc Cartney was left handed (nor do I care!)
Cant you see how puerile your comments are??? Very sad.
God this man I weird.
Even as the evidence unfolds as to the shambles ,we are all embittered vindictive nasty nasty insignificant cowardy bigoted unfounded unwarranted irrelvent sad vendetta held nonentities.

Time to get real Raisemup.
The truth of the shambles hurts us too.
Bronco.
What Blake Solly told you is spot on.
In the year o OK the Bulls needed £4 million.
They achieved £2.5 million.

The shortfall Is what is owed out in the insolvency.
Do you think the RFL forgot to tell OK?

No they did not.
That is why they held him to personal guarantees .
He could have cut costs as Moore Watt and Calvert were trying.

Sadly all too late
No comments allowed on insolvency thread because of all the Legal Actions purported to be coming about.

Khan v Moore Witless
Khan v Administrater
Khan v RFL
Khan v The World.
By gollly he must have a few spare millions to take that lot on.
Pity he did not use it to pay a few people.
What a sad man.
And people on here still defend him.

Sutcliffe and Greenwood......fools for becoming directors last April as the brown stuff flowed and the toilet paper spent.
More will be revealed.
But we will still be trolls ad liars.
Some people are so easily led.
Now get back off the couch BrianYou know your not allowed. xx Family Guy forever.Whenever I see Brian I think of you.Woof.
In fact after reading his rant again TVOR he comes across as more of a crossbreed mix of Freddie Fllntstone/Barney Rubble and an omniprescent air of Wilma aka Mrs Raisemeup constantly urging.
Go on boy...go get em.

WE ALL LOVE BRIAN xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxx
[quote][p][bold]Arhmen Noleg[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: What part of putting it on firmer foundations impressed you most Raisemeup?[/p][/quote]You seem to have the inability to read what was written as an article, in favour of choosing the bits you seem to think are an indication of the writers total outlook on life? I never discussed every word written and firmer foundations was not said by me? However BB is correct. when he said Omar put us on firmer foundations if you remember we were 24 hours from folding altogether so we couldn't get worse than being out of existence, so being saved and finishing in 10th place is firmer than none?? Please go on the RAB site, and attempt to mix your bigoted ideas with people who would not tolerate your unfounded or unwarranted attacks on those people who you hide your identity from. If you have issues with Omar Khan , GS and others, show you aren't afraid to let us all know your sources and of course your name? Same with those others who you say Knew? Are you just like other trolls, snivelling cowardly and insignificant???? I actually don't think that by the way....but you do go off at a tangent for the sake of what you see is your extra insight to all things? However your thoughts are totally irrelevant to the majority, and like Noble and Honest (to give him his RAB monica) unproven and vindictive against certain people you appear to have a vendetta against. Incidentally why did it matter what happened with Westlife in 2008, and why was the statement DANGEROUSLY misleading? To whom was it misleading to? Did knowing about it alter the course of History? And I actually didn't know Paul Mc Cartney was left handed (nor do I care!) Cant you see how puerile your comments are??? Very sad.[/p][/quote]God this man I weird. Even as the evidence unfolds as to the shambles ,we are all embittered vindictive nasty nasty insignificant cowardy bigoted unfounded unwarranted irrelvent sad vendetta held nonentities. Time to get real Raisemup. The truth of the shambles hurts us too. Bronco. What Blake Solly told you is spot on. In the year o OK the Bulls needed £4 million. They achieved £2.5 million. The shortfall Is what is owed out in the insolvency. Do you think the RFL forgot to tell OK? No they did not. That is why they held him to personal guarantees . He could have cut costs as Moore Watt and Calvert were trying. Sadly all too late No comments allowed on insolvency thread because of all the Legal Actions purported to be coming about. Khan v Moore Witless Khan v Administrater Khan v RFL Khan v The World. By gollly he must have a few spare millions to take that lot on. Pity he did not use it to pay a few people. What a sad man. And people on here still defend him. Sutcliffe and Greenwood......fools for becoming directors last April as the brown stuff flowed and the toilet paper spent. More will be revealed. But we will still be trolls ad liars. Some people are so easily led. Now get back off the couch BrianYou know your not allowed. xx Family Guy forever.Whenever I see Brian I think of you.Woof.[/p][/quote]In fact after reading his rant again TVOR he comes across as more of a crossbreed mix of Freddie Fllntstone/Barney Rubble and an omniprescent air of Wilma aka Mrs Raisemeup constantly urging. Go on boy...go get em. WE ALL LOVE BRIAN xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxx Arhmen Noleg
  • Score: 3

3:04am Wed 30 Apr 14

parkofl says...

Khan is a thief
Khan is a thief parkofl
  • Score: 5

7:05am Wed 30 Apr 14

AUGUST1964 says...

Arhmen Noleg wrote:
Arhmen Noleg wrote:
raisemeup wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
What part of putting it on firmer foundations impressed you most Raisemeup?
You seem to have the inability to read what was written as an article, in favour of choosing the bits you seem to think are an indication of the writers total outlook on life?
I never discussed every word written and firmer foundations was not said by me?
However BB is correct. when he said Omar put us on firmer foundations if you remember we were 24 hours from folding altogether so we couldn't get worse than being out of existence, so being saved and finishing in 10th place is firmer than none??

Please go on the RAB site, and attempt to mix your bigoted ideas with people who would not tolerate your unfounded or unwarranted attacks on those people who you hide your identity from.
If you have issues with Omar Khan , GS and others, show you aren't afraid to let us all know your sources and of course your name?

Same with those others who you say Knew? Are you just like other trolls, snivelling cowardly and insignificant????

I actually don't think that by the way....but you do go off at a tangent for the sake of what you see is your extra insight to all things?
However your thoughts are totally irrelevant to the majority, and like Noble and Honest (to give him his RAB monica) unproven and vindictive against certain people you appear to have a vendetta against.
Incidentally why did it matter what happened with Westlife in 2008, and why was the statement DANGEROUSLY misleading? To whom was it misleading to? Did knowing about it alter the course of History? And I actually didn't know Paul Mc Cartney was left handed (nor do I care!)
Cant you see how puerile your comments are??? Very sad.
God this man I weird.
Even as the evidence unfolds as to the shambles ,we are all embittered vindictive nasty nasty insignificant cowardy bigoted unfounded unwarranted irrelvent sad vendetta held nonentities.

Time to get real Raisemup.
The truth of the shambles hurts us too.
Bronco.
What Blake Solly told you is spot on.
In the year o OK the Bulls needed £4 million.
They achieved £2.5 million.

The shortfall Is what is owed out in the insolvency.
Do you think the RFL forgot to tell OK?

No they did not.
That is why they held him to personal guarantees .
He could have cut costs as Moore Watt and Calvert were trying.

Sadly all too late
No comments allowed on insolvency thread because of all the Legal Actions purported to be coming about.

Khan v Moore Witless
Khan v Administrater
Khan v RFL
Khan v The World.
By gollly he must have a few spare millions to take that lot on.
Pity he did not use it to pay a few people.
What a sad man.
And people on here still defend him.

Sutcliffe and Greenwood......fools for becoming directors last April as the brown stuff flowed and the toilet paper spent.
More will be revealed.
But we will still be trolls ad liars.
Some people are so easily led.
Now get back off the couch BrianYou know your not allowed. xx Family Guy forever.Whenever I see Brian I think of you.Woof.
In fact after reading his rant again TVOR he comes across as more of a crossbreed mix of Freddie Fllntstone/Barney Rubble and an omniprescent air of Wilma aka Mrs Raisemeup constantly urging.
Go on boy...go get em.

WE ALL LOVE BRIAN xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

xxxxxxx
THE LUNATICS ALLIANCE
[quote][p][bold]Arhmen Noleg[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arhmen Noleg[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: What part of putting it on firmer foundations impressed you most Raisemeup?[/p][/quote]You seem to have the inability to read what was written as an article, in favour of choosing the bits you seem to think are an indication of the writers total outlook on life? I never discussed every word written and firmer foundations was not said by me? However BB is correct. when he said Omar put us on firmer foundations if you remember we were 24 hours from folding altogether so we couldn't get worse than being out of existence, so being saved and finishing in 10th place is firmer than none?? Please go on the RAB site, and attempt to mix your bigoted ideas with people who would not tolerate your unfounded or unwarranted attacks on those people who you hide your identity from. If you have issues with Omar Khan , GS and others, show you aren't afraid to let us all know your sources and of course your name? Same with those others who you say Knew? Are you just like other trolls, snivelling cowardly and insignificant???? I actually don't think that by the way....but you do go off at a tangent for the sake of what you see is your extra insight to all things? However your thoughts are totally irrelevant to the majority, and like Noble and Honest (to give him his RAB monica) unproven and vindictive against certain people you appear to have a vendetta against. Incidentally why did it matter what happened with Westlife in 2008, and why was the statement DANGEROUSLY misleading? To whom was it misleading to? Did knowing about it alter the course of History? And I actually didn't know Paul Mc Cartney was left handed (nor do I care!) Cant you see how puerile your comments are??? Very sad.[/p][/quote]God this man I weird. Even as the evidence unfolds as to the shambles ,we are all embittered vindictive nasty nasty insignificant cowardy bigoted unfounded unwarranted irrelvent sad vendetta held nonentities. Time to get real Raisemup. The truth of the shambles hurts us too. Bronco. What Blake Solly told you is spot on. In the year o OK the Bulls needed £4 million. They achieved £2.5 million. The shortfall Is what is owed out in the insolvency. Do you think the RFL forgot to tell OK? No they did not. That is why they held him to personal guarantees . He could have cut costs as Moore Watt and Calvert were trying. Sadly all too late No comments allowed on insolvency thread because of all the Legal Actions purported to be coming about. Khan v Moore Witless Khan v Administrater Khan v RFL Khan v The World. By gollly he must have a few spare millions to take that lot on. Pity he did not use it to pay a few people. What a sad man. And people on here still defend him. Sutcliffe and Greenwood......fools for becoming directors last April as the brown stuff flowed and the toilet paper spent. More will be revealed. But we will still be trolls ad liars. Some people are so easily led. Now get back off the couch BrianYou know your not allowed. xx Family Guy forever.Whenever I see Brian I think of you.Woof.[/p][/quote]In fact after reading his rant again TVOR he comes across as more of a crossbreed mix of Freddie Fllntstone/Barney Rubble and an omniprescent air of Wilma aka Mrs Raisemeup constantly urging. Go on boy...go get em. WE ALL LOVE BRIAN xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxx[/p][/quote]THE LUNATICS ALLIANCE AUGUST1964
  • Score: -1

7:22am Wed 30 Apr 14

bradfordbronco says...

Hi TVOR did you really spend 8am to 2pm yesterday trawling through my comments? If not you must have them all written down. Not sure if its a sign of sadness or madness. Please let me know, should i be concerned?
Hi TVOR did you really spend 8am to 2pm yesterday trawling through my comments? If not you must have them all written down. Not sure if its a sign of sadness or madness. Please let me know, should i be concerned? bradfordbronco
  • Score: 0

7:31am Wed 30 Apr 14

bradfordbronco says...

Three more questions for you TVOR

1. If Omar hadn't stepped in who else would have?
2. Do you think the Bulls will complete all their matches this season? Cos you said last year they probably wouldn't and we shouldn't waste money on a season ticket
3. Did Omar take money out of the Bulls? as some are stating or did he actually lose money on the venture? I'm not asking if he did a good job, just did he put money in or take money out?

Don't need to answer straight away i wont be be able to read it till this evening
Three more questions for you TVOR 1. If Omar hadn't stepped in who else would have? 2. Do you think the Bulls will complete all their matches this season? Cos you said last year they probably wouldn't and we shouldn't waste money on a season ticket 3. Did Omar take money out of the Bulls? as some are stating or did he actually lose money on the venture? I'm not asking if he did a good job, just did he put money in or take money out? Don't need to answer straight away i wont be be able to read it till this evening bradfordbronco
  • Score: 2

8:54am Wed 30 Apr 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

bradfordbronco wrote:
Three more questions for you TVOR 1. If Omar hadn't stepped in who else would have? 2. Do you think the Bulls will complete all their matches this season? Cos you said last year they probably wouldn't and we shouldn't waste money on a season ticket 3. Did Omar take money out of the Bulls? as some are stating or did he actually lose money on the venture? I'm not asking if he did a good job, just did he put money in or take money out? Don't need to answer straight away i wont be be able to read it till this evening
1. Bradford City, Bradford Park Avenue and the Super League themselves were all in the hat to take over. It is however clear that Khan put himself in the No1 spot by agreeing to stipulations than none of these 3 would ever agree to, such as a reduction in central funding and a personal guarantee if the club went insolvent during it's first year.

2. The Bulls should complete their matches this year now they have someone who knows you can only spend what you recieve. Khan was signing Carvell, when he didn't have the money for next months wages then hoping people would buy season tickets knowing the very future of the club was not secure after posting loses in excess of £1m and showing very little sign of cutting costs. Moore & Co did more to cut costs in a few months than Khan did in an entire year.

3. That I can't answer, but the administrator seems to believe that he didn't out anywhere near the money into the Bulls that he made out he did, and if anything Moore & Co's version of events is closer to the truth than Khans acording to the administator.

Btw finding your rediculous quotes isn't difficult as you tend to make one a day, I just went back to the story on "Khan's ill health" to find all and sundry praising him, whilst those without the tinted specs on all knowing what was about to follow.
[quote][p][bold]bradfordbronco[/bold] wrote: Three more questions for you TVOR 1. If Omar hadn't stepped in who else would have? 2. Do you think the Bulls will complete all their matches this season? Cos you said last year they probably wouldn't and we shouldn't waste money on a season ticket 3. Did Omar take money out of the Bulls? as some are stating or did he actually lose money on the venture? I'm not asking if he did a good job, just did he put money in or take money out? Don't need to answer straight away i wont be be able to read it till this evening[/p][/quote]1. Bradford City, Bradford Park Avenue and the Super League themselves were all in the hat to take over. It is however clear that Khan put himself in the No1 spot by agreeing to stipulations than none of these 3 would ever agree to, such as a reduction in central funding and a personal guarantee if the club went insolvent during it's first year. 2. The Bulls should complete their matches this year now they have someone who knows you can only spend what you recieve. Khan was signing Carvell, when he didn't have the money for next months wages then hoping people would buy season tickets knowing the very future of the club was not secure after posting loses in excess of £1m and showing very little sign of cutting costs. Moore & Co did more to cut costs in a few months than Khan did in an entire year. 3. That I can't answer, but the administrator seems to believe that he didn't out anywhere near the money into the Bulls that he made out he did, and if anything Moore & Co's version of events is closer to the truth than Khans acording to the administator. Btw finding your rediculous quotes isn't difficult as you tend to make one a day, I just went back to the story on "Khan's ill health" to find all and sundry praising him, whilst those without the tinted specs on all knowing what was about to follow. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 1

10:34am Wed 30 Apr 14

StevieLad says...

parkofl wrote:
Khan is a thief
Many on here would have you believe he is a philanthropist who has been wrongly maligned

As opposed to an indian food seller, who thought those skills would transfer perfectly to exec. management of a top-flight professional sports club
[quote][p][bold]parkofl[/bold] wrote: Khan is a thief[/p][/quote]Many on here would have you believe he is a philanthropist who has been wrongly maligned As opposed to an indian food seller, who thought those skills would transfer perfectly to exec. management of a top-flight professional sports club StevieLad
  • Score: 0

2:58pm Wed 30 Apr 14

raisemeup says...

bradfordbronco wrote:
Hang on a minute I've been a work at all day and out all evening. I've only just spotted TVOR has been been busy researching my old posts and asking me for answers. I don't want him to feel like i'm dodging him like he does on many occasions when i ask him a straight forward question.

I stand by all my previous comments. I don't believe Omar is some kind of James Bond Villain looking to take over the world. I don't believe he got involved to make money or fleece the club. I don't believe he gas taken any money out of the club.

The club was bust when Omar took over. We simply wouldn't be in SL if he hadn't taken the club on. Fact nobody else has even claimed they would have taken the club on if Omar hadn't. there were a few bids but they all pulled out because of the RFL's penalties.

I actually spoke to Blake Solly in 2012 before whilst the club was still in admin and he told me it would cost approx £4m per year to fund a SL club.
The fact is that after a year of omar running the club it owed approx £1m would suggest to me that £3m came from other sources.

Season tickets sales weren't as good as expected approx £1m . We got approx £0.9m from central funding, which was approx 700,000 less than all the other clubs got. and which they now want back!!! we got a loan of £200,000 from the council. If we got £500,000 from Sponsorship etc it still leaves a hole of approx £1.5m to fund the club which had to be paid for by somebody. I think Omar probably lost about £500,000 over the course of the season.

Looking back he could have done things better. Maybe not been so optimistic about the level of support he would get through the turnstiles. He could have been helped and advised more by the governing body. He definitely didn't get involved to make money.

The fact is, it costs money to run a SL club. The Bulls as members of SL and playied in matches shown on TV and were entitled like all the other clubs to a FULL share of TV money never mind the reduced amount Omar had to agree to. The fact that the RFL are now hounding Omar for the central funding money is just ridiculous. How can any club trust the RFL. They all build into their budgets the central funding and now the RFL is saying they can take it back any time they want. Are they trying to destabilise the clubs and put off investors.

In short that's why I think its the RFL fault. Any money we received from central funding was spent on the club to actually compete in SL which is what the RFL supposedly wanted.

Anyway it so late now I won't have time to read about and pass judgement on BCFC. Never mind read all TVOR past comments. What a shame. Hours of endless fun missed out on
Wouldn't wish to put it any other way BB.
Mainly because you are right, and secondly the woodwork would be spewing forth the worms in copious posts, which whilst amusing leave you with a sense of despair that these buffoons congregate on here?
They don't fail to take offence when someone actually finds them irrelevant do they?
[quote][p][bold]bradfordbronco[/bold] wrote: Hang on a minute I've been a work at all day and out all evening. I've only just spotted TVOR has been been busy researching my old posts and asking me for answers. I don't want him to feel like i'm dodging him like he does on many occasions when i ask him a straight forward question. I stand by all my previous comments. I don't believe Omar is some kind of James Bond Villain looking to take over the world. I don't believe he got involved to make money or fleece the club. I don't believe he gas taken any money out of the club. The club was bust when Omar took over. We simply wouldn't be in SL if he hadn't taken the club on. Fact nobody else has even claimed they would have taken the club on if Omar hadn't. there were a few bids but they all pulled out because of the RFL's penalties. I actually spoke to Blake Solly in 2012 before whilst the club was still in admin and he told me it would cost approx £4m per year to fund a SL club. The fact is that after a year of omar running the club it owed approx £1m would suggest to me that £3m came from other sources. Season tickets sales weren't as good as expected approx £1m . We got approx £0.9m from central funding, which was approx 700,000 less than all the other clubs got. and which they now want back!!! we got a loan of £200,000 from the council. If we got £500,000 from Sponsorship etc it still leaves a hole of approx £1.5m to fund the club which had to be paid for by somebody. I think Omar probably lost about £500,000 over the course of the season. Looking back he could have done things better. Maybe not been so optimistic about the level of support he would get through the turnstiles. He could have been helped and advised more by the governing body. He definitely didn't get involved to make money. The fact is, it costs money to run a SL club. The Bulls as members of SL and playied in matches shown on TV and were entitled like all the other clubs to a FULL share of TV money never mind the reduced amount Omar had to agree to. The fact that the RFL are now hounding Omar for the central funding money is just ridiculous. How can any club trust the RFL. They all build into their budgets the central funding and now the RFL is saying they can take it back any time they want. Are they trying to destabilise the clubs and put off investors. In short that's why I think its the RFL fault. Any money we received from central funding was spent on the club to actually compete in SL which is what the RFL supposedly wanted. Anyway it so late now I won't have time to read about and pass judgement on BCFC. Never mind read all TVOR past comments. What a shame. Hours of endless fun missed out on[/p][/quote]Wouldn't wish to put it any other way BB. Mainly because you are right, and secondly the woodwork would be spewing forth the worms in copious posts, which whilst amusing leave you with a sense of despair that these buffoons congregate on here? They don't fail to take offence when someone actually finds them irrelevant do they? raisemeup
  • Score: 2

3:16pm Wed 30 Apr 14

jimmy k says...

GET THIS STORY OFF THE KEIGHLEY NEWS WEBSITE.IT'S BAD ENOUGH OUR COUNCIL TAX MONEY HAS GONE TO THAT MONEY PIT ALL THESE YEARS.
GET THIS STORY OFF THE KEIGHLEY NEWS WEBSITE.IT'S BAD ENOUGH OUR COUNCIL TAX MONEY HAS GONE TO THAT MONEY PIT ALL THESE YEARS. jimmy k
  • Score: -1

3:22pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

raisemeup wrote:
bradfordbronco wrote: Hang on a minute I've been a work at all day and out all evening. I've only just spotted TVOR has been been busy researching my old posts and asking me for answers. I don't want him to feel like i'm dodging him like he does on many occasions when i ask him a straight forward question. I stand by all my previous comments. I don't believe Omar is some kind of James Bond Villain looking to take over the world. I don't believe he got involved to make money or fleece the club. I don't believe he gas taken any money out of the club. The club was bust when Omar took over. We simply wouldn't be in SL if he hadn't taken the club on. Fact nobody else has even claimed they would have taken the club on if Omar hadn't. there were a few bids but they all pulled out because of the RFL's penalties. I actually spoke to Blake Solly in 2012 before whilst the club was still in admin and he told me it would cost approx £4m per year to fund a SL club. The fact is that after a year of omar running the club it owed approx £1m would suggest to me that £3m came from other sources. Season tickets sales weren't as good as expected approx £1m . We got approx £0.9m from central funding, which was approx 700,000 less than all the other clubs got. and which they now want back!!! we got a loan of £200,000 from the council. If we got £500,000 from Sponsorship etc it still leaves a hole of approx £1.5m to fund the club which had to be paid for by somebody. I think Omar probably lost about £500,000 over the course of the season. Looking back he could have done things better. Maybe not been so optimistic about the level of support he would get through the turnstiles. He could have been helped and advised more by the governing body. He definitely didn't get involved to make money. The fact is, it costs money to run a SL club. The Bulls as members of SL and playied in matches shown on TV and were entitled like all the other clubs to a FULL share of TV money never mind the reduced amount Omar had to agree to. The fact that the RFL are now hounding Omar for the central funding money is just ridiculous. How can any club trust the RFL. They all build into their budgets the central funding and now the RFL is saying they can take it back any time they want. Are they trying to destabilise the clubs and put off investors. In short that's why I think its the RFL fault. Any money we received from central funding was spent on the club to actually compete in SL which is what the RFL supposedly wanted. Anyway it so late now I won't have time to read about and pass judgement on BCFC. Never mind read all TVOR past comments. What a shame. Hours of endless fun missed out on
Wouldn't wish to put it any other way BB. Mainly because you are right, and secondly the woodwork would be spewing forth the worms in copious posts, which whilst amusing leave you with a sense of despair that these buffoons congregate on here? They don't fail to take offence when someone actually finds them irrelevant do they?
It's like mastermind on here.

Name,

Bradfordbronco,

Subject,

It's all the RFL's fault.

Your time starts now.

Name,

Raisemeup,

Subject,

Keeping ones head in the sand,

Your time starts now.
[quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bradfordbronco[/bold] wrote: Hang on a minute I've been a work at all day and out all evening. I've only just spotted TVOR has been been busy researching my old posts and asking me for answers. I don't want him to feel like i'm dodging him like he does on many occasions when i ask him a straight forward question. I stand by all my previous comments. I don't believe Omar is some kind of James Bond Villain looking to take over the world. I don't believe he got involved to make money or fleece the club. I don't believe he gas taken any money out of the club. The club was bust when Omar took over. We simply wouldn't be in SL if he hadn't taken the club on. Fact nobody else has even claimed they would have taken the club on if Omar hadn't. there were a few bids but they all pulled out because of the RFL's penalties. I actually spoke to Blake Solly in 2012 before whilst the club was still in admin and he told me it would cost approx £4m per year to fund a SL club. The fact is that after a year of omar running the club it owed approx £1m would suggest to me that £3m came from other sources. Season tickets sales weren't as good as expected approx £1m . We got approx £0.9m from central funding, which was approx 700,000 less than all the other clubs got. and which they now want back!!! we got a loan of £200,000 from the council. If we got £500,000 from Sponsorship etc it still leaves a hole of approx £1.5m to fund the club which had to be paid for by somebody. I think Omar probably lost about £500,000 over the course of the season. Looking back he could have done things better. Maybe not been so optimistic about the level of support he would get through the turnstiles. He could have been helped and advised more by the governing body. He definitely didn't get involved to make money. The fact is, it costs money to run a SL club. The Bulls as members of SL and playied in matches shown on TV and were entitled like all the other clubs to a FULL share of TV money never mind the reduced amount Omar had to agree to. The fact that the RFL are now hounding Omar for the central funding money is just ridiculous. How can any club trust the RFL. They all build into their budgets the central funding and now the RFL is saying they can take it back any time they want. Are they trying to destabilise the clubs and put off investors. In short that's why I think its the RFL fault. Any money we received from central funding was spent on the club to actually compete in SL which is what the RFL supposedly wanted. Anyway it so late now I won't have time to read about and pass judgement on BCFC. Never mind read all TVOR past comments. What a shame. Hours of endless fun missed out on[/p][/quote]Wouldn't wish to put it any other way BB. Mainly because you are right, and secondly the woodwork would be spewing forth the worms in copious posts, which whilst amusing leave you with a sense of despair that these buffoons congregate on here? They don't fail to take offence when someone actually finds them irrelevant do they?[/p][/quote]It's like mastermind on here. Name, Bradfordbronco, Subject, It's all the RFL's fault. Your time starts now. Name, Raisemeup, Subject, Keeping ones head in the sand, Your time starts now. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: -2

10:23pm Wed 30 Apr 14

bradfordbronco says...

Hi TVOR Thank you for your answers.

1 Yes BCFC, Park Ave, ABC, Greenwoods, Ice lolly and SL all had bids on the table. All pulled out once they had met the RFL. SL Europe said they were only a back up plan if nobody else came on board. In reality only Omar actually stumped up the cash. So the answer you are trying to avoid is ONLY OMAR WAS WILLING TO TAKE THE CLUB ON AND THEREFORE AVOID LIQUIDATION

2. I'll sum up your answer YES THE BULLS WILL COMPLETE THE SEASON. This is what i predicted and you didn't

3. YOU DONT KNOW. BUT YOU THINK HE PUT MORE CASH IN THAN HE TOOK OUT. This is quite important because some people actually think he stole money from the club.

Thank you for taking time time to answer the questions it was quite revealing
Hi TVOR Thank you for your answers. 1 Yes BCFC, Park Ave, ABC, Greenwoods, Ice lolly and SL all had bids on the table. All pulled out once they had met the RFL. SL Europe said they were only a back up plan if nobody else came on board. In reality only Omar actually stumped up the cash. So the answer you are trying to avoid is ONLY OMAR WAS WILLING TO TAKE THE CLUB ON AND THEREFORE AVOID LIQUIDATION 2. I'll sum up your answer YES THE BULLS WILL COMPLETE THE SEASON. This is what i predicted and you didn't 3. YOU DONT KNOW. BUT YOU THINK HE PUT MORE CASH IN THAN HE TOOK OUT. This is quite important because some people actually think he stole money from the club. Thank you for taking time time to answer the questions it was quite revealing bradfordbronco
  • Score: 1

10:35pm Wed 30 Apr 14

bradfordbronco says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
raisemeup wrote:
bradfordbronco wrote: Hang on a minute I've been a work at all day and out all evening. I've only just spotted TVOR has been been busy researching my old posts and asking me for answers. I don't want him to feel like i'm dodging him like he does on many occasions when i ask him a straight forward question. I stand by all my previous comments. I don't believe Omar is some kind of James Bond Villain looking to take over the world. I don't believe he got involved to make money or fleece the club. I don't believe he gas taken any money out of the club. The club was bust when Omar took over. We simply wouldn't be in SL if he hadn't taken the club on. Fact nobody else has even claimed they would have taken the club on if Omar hadn't. there were a few bids but they all pulled out because of the RFL's penalties. I actually spoke to Blake Solly in 2012 before whilst the club was still in admin and he told me it would cost approx £4m per year to fund a SL club. The fact is that after a year of omar running the club it owed approx £1m would suggest to me that £3m came from other sources. Season tickets sales weren't as good as expected approx £1m . We got approx £0.9m from central funding, which was approx 700,000 less than all the other clubs got. and which they now want back!!! we got a loan of £200,000 from the council. If we got £500,000 from Sponsorship etc it still leaves a hole of approx £1.5m to fund the club which had to be paid for by somebody. I think Omar probably lost about £500,000 over the course of the season. Looking back he could have done things better. Maybe not been so optimistic about the level of support he would get through the turnstiles. He could have been helped and advised more by the governing body. He definitely didn't get involved to make money. The fact is, it costs money to run a SL club. The Bulls as members of SL and playied in matches shown on TV and were entitled like all the other clubs to a FULL share of TV money never mind the reduced amount Omar had to agree to. The fact that the RFL are now hounding Omar for the central funding money is just ridiculous. How can any club trust the RFL. They all build into their budgets the central funding and now the RFL is saying they can take it back any time they want. Are they trying to destabilise the clubs and put off investors. In short that's why I think its the RFL fault. Any money we received from central funding was spent on the club to actually compete in SL which is what the RFL supposedly wanted. Anyway it so late now I won't have time to read about and pass judgement on BCFC. Never mind read all TVOR past comments. What a shame. Hours of endless fun missed out on
Wouldn't wish to put it any other way BB. Mainly because you are right, and secondly the woodwork would be spewing forth the worms in copious posts, which whilst amusing leave you with a sense of despair that these buffoons congregate on here? They don't fail to take offence when someone actually finds them irrelevant do they?
It's like mastermind on here.

Name,

Bradfordbronco,

Subject,

It's all the RFL's fault.

Your time starts now.

Name,

Raisemeup,

Subject,

Keeping ones head in the sand,

Your time starts now.
And our third contestant

Name

TVOR

Specialist subjects

Stating the bleeding obvious
saying" I was right"

Hobbies

I like to spend my spare time (of which i have 24 hours a day) talking about the Bradford Bulls (a Rugby club that I hate)and the RFL (a sports governing body that i love and can do no wrong)

Your time starts now
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bradfordbronco[/bold] wrote: Hang on a minute I've been a work at all day and out all evening. I've only just spotted TVOR has been been busy researching my old posts and asking me for answers. I don't want him to feel like i'm dodging him like he does on many occasions when i ask him a straight forward question. I stand by all my previous comments. I don't believe Omar is some kind of James Bond Villain looking to take over the world. I don't believe he got involved to make money or fleece the club. I don't believe he gas taken any money out of the club. The club was bust when Omar took over. We simply wouldn't be in SL if he hadn't taken the club on. Fact nobody else has even claimed they would have taken the club on if Omar hadn't. there were a few bids but they all pulled out because of the RFL's penalties. I actually spoke to Blake Solly in 2012 before whilst the club was still in admin and he told me it would cost approx £4m per year to fund a SL club. The fact is that after a year of omar running the club it owed approx £1m would suggest to me that £3m came from other sources. Season tickets sales weren't as good as expected approx £1m . We got approx £0.9m from central funding, which was approx 700,000 less than all the other clubs got. and which they now want back!!! we got a loan of £200,000 from the council. If we got £500,000 from Sponsorship etc it still leaves a hole of approx £1.5m to fund the club which had to be paid for by somebody. I think Omar probably lost about £500,000 over the course of the season. Looking back he could have done things better. Maybe not been so optimistic about the level of support he would get through the turnstiles. He could have been helped and advised more by the governing body. He definitely didn't get involved to make money. The fact is, it costs money to run a SL club. The Bulls as members of SL and playied in matches shown on TV and were entitled like all the other clubs to a FULL share of TV money never mind the reduced amount Omar had to agree to. The fact that the RFL are now hounding Omar for the central funding money is just ridiculous. How can any club trust the RFL. They all build into their budgets the central funding and now the RFL is saying they can take it back any time they want. Are they trying to destabilise the clubs and put off investors. In short that's why I think its the RFL fault. Any money we received from central funding was spent on the club to actually compete in SL which is what the RFL supposedly wanted. Anyway it so late now I won't have time to read about and pass judgement on BCFC. Never mind read all TVOR past comments. What a shame. Hours of endless fun missed out on[/p][/quote]Wouldn't wish to put it any other way BB. Mainly because you are right, and secondly the woodwork would be spewing forth the worms in copious posts, which whilst amusing leave you with a sense of despair that these buffoons congregate on here? They don't fail to take offence when someone actually finds them irrelevant do they?[/p][/quote]It's like mastermind on here. Name, Bradfordbronco, Subject, It's all the RFL's fault. Your time starts now. Name, Raisemeup, Subject, Keeping ones head in the sand, Your time starts now.[/p][/quote]And our third contestant Name TVOR Specialist subjects Stating the bleeding obvious saying" I was right" Hobbies I like to spend my spare time (of which i have 24 hours a day) talking about the Bradford Bulls (a Rugby club that I hate)and the RFL (a sports governing body that i love and can do no wrong) Your time starts now bradfordbronco
  • Score: 0

10:52pm Wed 30 Apr 14

bradfordbronco says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
What part of putting it on firmer foundations impressed you most Raisemeup?
When we Bradford Bulls Holdings went into admin in 2012 there was noboby else other than Omar who met the terms of the administrator despite what you say about BCFC and Park Ave.
When OK Bulls went into admin there were several offers the administrator could accept (Koukash, Lamb, Bradford Bulls 2014 and marc green)

Perhaps the club WAS put on firmer foundations if only slightly firmer ones. The certainly weren't in a worse state
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: What part of putting it on firmer foundations impressed you most Raisemeup?[/p][/quote]When we Bradford Bulls Holdings went into admin in 2012 there was noboby else other than Omar who met the terms of the administrator despite what you say about BCFC and Park Ave. When OK Bulls went into admin there were several offers the administrator could accept (Koukash, Lamb, Bradford Bulls 2014 and marc green) Perhaps the club WAS put on firmer foundations if only slightly firmer ones. The certainly weren't in a worse state bradfordbronco
  • Score: 2

11:27pm Wed 30 Apr 14

bradfordbronco says...

parkofl wrote:
Khan is a thief
Where is the evidence. Even TVOR with all his investigation skill and time on his hands has been unable to prove it and now thinks Omar put more money IN to the Bulls than he took OUT
[quote][p][bold]parkofl[/bold] wrote: Khan is a thief[/p][/quote]Where is the evidence. Even TVOR with all his investigation skill and time on his hands has been unable to prove it and now thinks Omar put more money IN to the Bulls than he took OUT bradfordbronco
  • Score: 0

9:35am Thu 1 May 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Still in denial.

Super League would have taken the club on to ensure it furfilled it's fixtures but Khan ensured it didn't by agreeing to stupid terms to ensure he got the club.

If you can't see that then you never will.
Still in denial. Super League would have taken the club on to ensure it furfilled it's fixtures but Khan ensured it didn't by agreeing to stupid terms to ensure he got the club. If you can't see that then you never will. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 0

11:11am Thu 1 May 14

bullofbradford says...

Paul from Idle wrote:
Hi Guys I appear unable to comment at the bottom of the OK feature?
Is it my PC?
NO. the T&A decide they don't want adverse comments about OK the corrupt coward being posted or debated! Why?!
[quote][p][bold]Paul from Idle[/bold] wrote: Hi Guys I appear unable to comment at the bottom of the OK feature? Is it my PC?[/p][/quote]NO. the T&A decide they don't want adverse comments about OK the corrupt coward being posted or debated! Why?! bullofbradford
  • Score: 1

11:14am Thu 1 May 14

bullofbradford says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
What part of putting it on firmer foundations impressed you most Raisemeup?
What a load of rubbish! OK raped the club, and his restaurant got catering contracts. Agree he was totally out of his depth
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: What part of putting it on firmer foundations impressed you most Raisemeup?[/p][/quote]What a load of rubbish! OK raped the club, and his restaurant got catering contracts. Agree he was totally out of his depth bullofbradford
  • Score: 1

11:59am Thu 1 May 14

bullofbradford says...

StevieLad wrote:
parkofl wrote:
Khan is a thief
Many on here would have you believe he is a philanthropist who has been wrongly maligned

As opposed to an indian food seller, who thought those skills would transfer perfectly to exec. management of a top-flight professional sports club
As an Indian (bad) food seller, Khan was totally incompetent for BB but that should not hide the fact that he is a cunning operator. 'Ill health'?! BB contacts for food to his restaurant? He uses fronts to hide behind such as GS.
[quote][p][bold]StevieLad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]parkofl[/bold] wrote: Khan is a thief[/p][/quote]Many on here would have you believe he is a philanthropist who has been wrongly maligned As opposed to an indian food seller, who thought those skills would transfer perfectly to exec. management of a top-flight professional sports club[/p][/quote]As an Indian (bad) food seller, Khan was totally incompetent for BB but that should not hide the fact that he is a cunning operator. 'Ill health'?! BB contacts for food to his restaurant? He uses fronts to hide behind such as GS. bullofbradford
  • Score: 2

12:04pm Thu 1 May 14

bullofbradford says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
raisemeup wrote:
bradfordbronco wrote: Hang on a minute I've been a work at all day and out all evening. I've only just spotted TVOR has been been busy researching my old posts and asking me for answers. I don't want him to feel like i'm dodging him like he does on many occasions when i ask him a straight forward question. I stand by all my previous comments. I don't believe Omar is some kind of James Bond Villain looking to take over the world. I don't believe he got involved to make money or fleece the club. I don't believe he gas taken any money out of the club. The club was bust when Omar took over. We simply wouldn't be in SL if he hadn't taken the club on. Fact nobody else has even claimed they would have taken the club on if Omar hadn't. there were a few bids but they all pulled out because of the RFL's penalties. I actually spoke to Blake Solly in 2012 before whilst the club was still in admin and he told me it would cost approx £4m per year to fund a SL club. The fact is that after a year of omar running the club it owed approx £1m would suggest to me that £3m came from other sources. Season tickets sales weren't as good as expected approx £1m . We got approx £0.9m from central funding, which was approx 700,000 less than all the other clubs got. and which they now want back!!! we got a loan of £200,000 from the council. If we got £500,000 from Sponsorship etc it still leaves a hole of approx £1.5m to fund the club which had to be paid for by somebody. I think Omar probably lost about £500,000 over the course of the season. Looking back he could have done things better. Maybe not been so optimistic about the level of support he would get through the turnstiles. He could have been helped and advised more by the governing body. He definitely didn't get involved to make money. The fact is, it costs money to run a SL club. The Bulls as members of SL and playied in matches shown on TV and were entitled like all the other clubs to a FULL share of TV money never mind the reduced amount Omar had to agree to. The fact that the RFL are now hounding Omar for the central funding money is just ridiculous. How can any club trust the RFL. They all build into their budgets the central funding and now the RFL is saying they can take it back any time they want. Are they trying to destabilise the clubs and put off investors. In short that's why I think its the RFL fault. Any money we received from central funding was spent on the club to actually compete in SL which is what the RFL supposedly wanted. Anyway it so late now I won't have time to read about and pass judgement on BCFC. Never mind read all TVOR past comments. What a shame. Hours of endless fun missed out on
Wouldn't wish to put it any other way BB. Mainly because you are right, and secondly the woodwork would be spewing forth the worms in copious posts, which whilst amusing leave you with a sense of despair that these buffoons congregate on here? They don't fail to take offence when someone actually finds them irrelevant do they?
It's like mastermind on here.

Name,

Bradfordbronco,

Subject,

It's all the RFL's fault.

Your time starts now.

Name,

Raisemeup,

Subject,

Keeping ones head in the sand,

Your time starts now.
You're living in cuckoo land! Khan's sources of funds are dubious, and he certainly did NOT lose anywhere near 500k. He has apparently no assets now?!
Surprising?!
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bradfordbronco[/bold] wrote: Hang on a minute I've been a work at all day and out all evening. I've only just spotted TVOR has been been busy researching my old posts and asking me for answers. I don't want him to feel like i'm dodging him like he does on many occasions when i ask him a straight forward question. I stand by all my previous comments. I don't believe Omar is some kind of James Bond Villain looking to take over the world. I don't believe he got involved to make money or fleece the club. I don't believe he gas taken any money out of the club. The club was bust when Omar took over. We simply wouldn't be in SL if he hadn't taken the club on. Fact nobody else has even claimed they would have taken the club on if Omar hadn't. there were a few bids but they all pulled out because of the RFL's penalties. I actually spoke to Blake Solly in 2012 before whilst the club was still in admin and he told me it would cost approx £4m per year to fund a SL club. The fact is that after a year of omar running the club it owed approx £1m would suggest to me that £3m came from other sources. Season tickets sales weren't as good as expected approx £1m . We got approx £0.9m from central funding, which was approx 700,000 less than all the other clubs got. and which they now want back!!! we got a loan of £200,000 from the council. If we got £500,000 from Sponsorship etc it still leaves a hole of approx £1.5m to fund the club which had to be paid for by somebody. I think Omar probably lost about £500,000 over the course of the season. Looking back he could have done things better. Maybe not been so optimistic about the level of support he would get through the turnstiles. He could have been helped and advised more by the governing body. He definitely didn't get involved to make money. The fact is, it costs money to run a SL club. The Bulls as members of SL and playied in matches shown on TV and were entitled like all the other clubs to a FULL share of TV money never mind the reduced amount Omar had to agree to. The fact that the RFL are now hounding Omar for the central funding money is just ridiculous. How can any club trust the RFL. They all build into their budgets the central funding and now the RFL is saying they can take it back any time they want. Are they trying to destabilise the clubs and put off investors. In short that's why I think its the RFL fault. Any money we received from central funding was spent on the club to actually compete in SL which is what the RFL supposedly wanted. Anyway it so late now I won't have time to read about and pass judgement on BCFC. Never mind read all TVOR past comments. What a shame. Hours of endless fun missed out on[/p][/quote]Wouldn't wish to put it any other way BB. Mainly because you are right, and secondly the woodwork would be spewing forth the worms in copious posts, which whilst amusing leave you with a sense of despair that these buffoons congregate on here? They don't fail to take offence when someone actually finds them irrelevant do they?[/p][/quote]It's like mastermind on here. Name, Bradfordbronco, Subject, It's all the RFL's fault. Your time starts now. Name, Raisemeup, Subject, Keeping ones head in the sand, Your time starts now.[/p][/quote]You're living in cuckoo land! Khan's sources of funds are dubious, and he certainly did NOT lose anywhere near 500k. He has apparently no assets now?! Surprising?! bullofbradford
  • Score: 2

11:22pm Thu 1 May 14

bradfordbronco says...

bullofbradford wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
raisemeup wrote:
bradfordbronco wrote: Hang on a minute I've been a work at all day and out all evening. I've only just spotted TVOR has been been busy researching my old posts and asking me for answers. I don't want him to feel like i'm dodging him like he does on many occasions when i ask him a straight forward question. I stand by all my previous comments. I don't believe Omar is some kind of James Bond Villain looking to take over the world. I don't believe he got involved to make money or fleece the club. I don't believe he gas taken any money out of the club. The club was bust when Omar took over. We simply wouldn't be in SL if he hadn't taken the club on. Fact nobody else has even claimed they would have taken the club on if Omar hadn't. there were a few bids but they all pulled out because of the RFL's penalties. I actually spoke to Blake Solly in 2012 before whilst the club was still in admin and he told me it would cost approx £4m per year to fund a SL club. The fact is that after a year of omar running the club it owed approx £1m would suggest to me that £3m came from other sources. Season tickets sales weren't as good as expected approx £1m . We got approx £0.9m from central funding, which was approx 700,000 less than all the other clubs got. and which they now want back!!! we got a loan of £200,000 from the council. If we got £500,000 from Sponsorship etc it still leaves a hole of approx £1.5m to fund the club which had to be paid for by somebody. I think Omar probably lost about £500,000 over the course of the season. Looking back he could have done things better. Maybe not been so optimistic about the level of support he would get through the turnstiles. He could have been helped and advised more by the governing body. He definitely didn't get involved to make money. The fact is, it costs money to run a SL club. The Bulls as members of SL and playied in matches shown on TV and were entitled like all the other clubs to a FULL share of TV money never mind the reduced amount Omar had to agree to. The fact that the RFL are now hounding Omar for the central funding money is just ridiculous. How can any club trust the RFL. They all build into their budgets the central funding and now the RFL is saying they can take it back any time they want. Are they trying to destabilise the clubs and put off investors. In short that's why I think its the RFL fault. Any money we received from central funding was spent on the club to actually compete in SL which is what the RFL supposedly wanted. Anyway it so late now I won't have time to read about and pass judgement on BCFC. Never mind read all TVOR past comments. What a shame. Hours of endless fun missed out on
Wouldn't wish to put it any other way BB. Mainly because you are right, and secondly the woodwork would be spewing forth the worms in copious posts, which whilst amusing leave you with a sense of despair that these buffoons congregate on here? They don't fail to take offence when someone actually finds them irrelevant do they?
It's like mastermind on here.

Name,

Bradfordbronco,

Subject,

It's all the RFL's fault.

Your time starts now.

Name,

Raisemeup,

Subject,

Keeping ones head in the sand,

Your time starts now.
You're living in cuckoo land! Khan's sources of funds are dubious, and he certainly did NOT lose anywhere near 500k. He has apparently no assets now?!
Surprising?!
At last we seem to have reached an agreement on Omar Khan

He took the club because he thought he would be popular. He was unrealistic in the amount of support he would receive from the supporters and the RFL. He make lots of mistakes and didn't have the cash to bankroll the club. He did mortgage some of his properties and DID put quite a bit of money into the club. He looked to find a way out of it but was unable to find anyone else with any real money to take the club on and pay him his money back. he gave it a go when nobody would have and it didn't work out for him. HE CERTAINLY DIDN'T TAKE MONEY OUT OF THE CLUB. The amount he lost is somewhere between £250,000 and £1m. He did manage to attract some decent sponsorship to the club and had he not overspent on players wages in an effort to put a decent team on the field he would have broke even

In the end he was probably the biggest loser in whole saga.

After 1 year the club was in almost as bad a state as it was when he took over but not quite as bad. Despite having a large chunk of their central funding taken away.

The players all got paid

The supporters still have a club to watch

Axelf1963 still a club to hate and follow their every move

TVOR still has club to investigate and and pretend to follow although he can't attend matches because it means leaving the house.

Marc Green got control of the club and a chance to get his money back.

Moore & co managed to escape without losing their money

The RFL got half the Bulls central money and are now chasing Omar for the rest!

Gareth Carvell showed he couldn't be relied upon in a crisis

Wakefield got extra funding and spent it on Bradford players in an effort to stay up. They will no doubt find they can't afford it on season ticket sales of 2000 and will be relegated at the end of the 2015 when they go into admin again.

Back to Omar Khan. He lost loads of money in an effort to help the Bulls and boost his own ego. It doesn't make him a criminal and whilst we will never know what would have happened if he hadn't got involved. I think the best we could have got is something we have now and the worst would have been no club at all. Which is something some people on here were actually hoping for.
[quote][p][bold]bullofbradford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bradfordbronco[/bold] wrote: Hang on a minute I've been a work at all day and out all evening. I've only just spotted TVOR has been been busy researching my old posts and asking me for answers. I don't want him to feel like i'm dodging him like he does on many occasions when i ask him a straight forward question. I stand by all my previous comments. I don't believe Omar is some kind of James Bond Villain looking to take over the world. I don't believe he got involved to make money or fleece the club. I don't believe he gas taken any money out of the club. The club was bust when Omar took over. We simply wouldn't be in SL if he hadn't taken the club on. Fact nobody else has even claimed they would have taken the club on if Omar hadn't. there were a few bids but they all pulled out because of the RFL's penalties. I actually spoke to Blake Solly in 2012 before whilst the club was still in admin and he told me it would cost approx £4m per year to fund a SL club. The fact is that after a year of omar running the club it owed approx £1m would suggest to me that £3m came from other sources. Season tickets sales weren't as good as expected approx £1m . We got approx £0.9m from central funding, which was approx 700,000 less than all the other clubs got. and which they now want back!!! we got a loan of £200,000 from the council. If we got £500,000 from Sponsorship etc it still leaves a hole of approx £1.5m to fund the club which had to be paid for by somebody. I think Omar probably lost about £500,000 over the course of the season. Looking back he could have done things better. Maybe not been so optimistic about the level of support he would get through the turnstiles. He could have been helped and advised more by the governing body. He definitely didn't get involved to make money. The fact is, it costs money to run a SL club. The Bulls as members of SL and playied in matches shown on TV and were entitled like all the other clubs to a FULL share of TV money never mind the reduced amount Omar had to agree to. The fact that the RFL are now hounding Omar for the central funding money is just ridiculous. How can any club trust the RFL. They all build into their budgets the central funding and now the RFL is saying they can take it back any time they want. Are they trying to destabilise the clubs and put off investors. In short that's why I think its the RFL fault. Any money we received from central funding was spent on the club to actually compete in SL which is what the RFL supposedly wanted. Anyway it so late now I won't have time to read about and pass judgement on BCFC. Never mind read all TVOR past comments. What a shame. Hours of endless fun missed out on[/p][/quote]Wouldn't wish to put it any other way BB. Mainly because you are right, and secondly the woodwork would be spewing forth the worms in copious posts, which whilst amusing leave you with a sense of despair that these buffoons congregate on here? They don't fail to take offence when someone actually finds them irrelevant do they?[/p][/quote]It's like mastermind on here. Name, Bradfordbronco, Subject, It's all the RFL's fault. Your time starts now. Name, Raisemeup, Subject, Keeping ones head in the sand, Your time starts now.[/p][/quote]You're living in cuckoo land! Khan's sources of funds are dubious, and he certainly did NOT lose anywhere near 500k. He has apparently no assets now?! Surprising?![/p][/quote]At last we seem to have reached an agreement on Omar Khan He took the club because he thought he would be popular. He was unrealistic in the amount of support he would receive from the supporters and the RFL. He make lots of mistakes and didn't have the cash to bankroll the club. He did mortgage some of his properties and DID put quite a bit of money into the club. He looked to find a way out of it but was unable to find anyone else with any real money to take the club on and pay him his money back. he gave it a go when nobody would have and it didn't work out for him. HE CERTAINLY DIDN'T TAKE MONEY OUT OF THE CLUB. The amount he lost is somewhere between £250,000 and £1m. He did manage to attract some decent sponsorship to the club and had he not overspent on players wages in an effort to put a decent team on the field he would have broke even In the end he was probably the biggest loser in whole saga. After 1 year the club was in almost as bad a state as it was when he took over but not quite as bad. Despite having a large chunk of their central funding taken away. The players all got paid The supporters still have a club to watch Axelf1963 still a club to hate and follow their every move TVOR still has club to investigate and and pretend to follow although he can't attend matches because it means leaving the house. Marc Green got control of the club and a chance to get his money back. Moore & co managed to escape without losing their money The RFL got half the Bulls central money and are now chasing Omar for the rest! Gareth Carvell showed he couldn't be relied upon in a crisis Wakefield got extra funding and spent it on Bradford players in an effort to stay up. They will no doubt find they can't afford it on season ticket sales of 2000 and will be relegated at the end of the 2015 when they go into admin again. Back to Omar Khan. He lost loads of money in an effort to help the Bulls and boost his own ego. It doesn't make him a criminal and whilst we will never know what would have happened if he hadn't got involved. I think the best we could have got is something we have now and the worst would have been no club at all. Which is something some people on here were actually hoping for. bradfordbronco
  • Score: 1

11:47pm Thu 1 May 14

Papa Smurfs Wig says...

Bronco, you might findout soon that Marc Greens wife is calling the shots.

Khan was terrible with the female staff and stories will come out soon about an hotel he owns.

We as council tax payers still want the money off him.

How much did the three wise monkeys get for the fence?

Ha ha.
Bronco, you might findout soon that Marc Greens wife is calling the shots. Khan was terrible with the female staff and stories will come out soon about an hotel he owns. We as council tax payers still want the money off him. How much did the three wise monkeys get for the fence? Ha ha. Papa Smurfs Wig
  • Score: 0

7:49am Fri 2 May 14

bradfordbronco says...

Not sure what relevance Marc Greens wife has to any arguments. As council tax players WE are owed nothing. The council is owed money which Omar has said he will pay back. Not sure about the allegations you make but its got nothing to do with whether he put money in or took money out which is what we trying to establish.
Who knows about the fence, but its further evidence that they didn't lose any money

As far as i can make out the biggest loser in the is Omar Khan himself!
Not sure what relevance Marc Greens wife has to any arguments. As council tax players WE are owed nothing. The council is owed money which Omar has said he will pay back. Not sure about the allegations you make but its got nothing to do with whether he put money in or took money out which is what we trying to establish. Who knows about the fence, but its further evidence that they didn't lose any money As far as i can make out the biggest loser in the is Omar Khan himself! bradfordbronco
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8:54am Sat 3 May 14

fedupwiththeBS says...

if the RFL are now listing themselves as creditors to OK Bulls Ltd should Mr Green not be picking up this debt as he got the club on the back of paying off the creditors?

I am not a fan of OK but he was not actually the one that put the Club into administration; that was Moore, RP and green.
if the RFL are now listing themselves as creditors to OK Bulls Ltd should Mr Green not be picking up this debt as he got the club on the back of paying off the creditors? I am not a fan of OK but he was not actually the one that put the Club into administration; that was Moore, RP and green. fedupwiththeBS
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