Marc Green hopes Bradford Bulls appeal will be money well spent

Marc Green believes justice will prevail regarding the Bulls’ six-point penalty for entering administration

Marc Green believes justice will prevail regarding the Bulls’ six-point penalty for entering administration

First published in Sport Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Photograph of the Author by , Bradford Bulls Reporter

Bulls owner Marc Green insists the club will “stand or fall” by the outcome of the appeal against their six-point penalty for entering administration.

Bradford were recently granted a right of appeal by the RFL and an independent appeal will hear their case, which Green says he is paying for out of his own pocket.

The Bulls’ appeal is based on their assertion that the insolvency event arose solely as a result of force majeure, in that the club’s administration occurred in circumstances that were unforeseeable and unavoidable.

The RFL says the appeal will be heard “as soon as possible” by a specially-convened independent sporting sanctions appeal panel chaired by a qualified solicitor or barrister which has the right to uphold the deduction, reduce the severity or overthrow it.

Chairman Green said: “If it’s right that we should get any points back then we will and if it’s right that we shouldn’t then we won’t.

“But if the sport is to have any credibility at all then it has to be that it believes in the transparency of the process that it has in place for any appeal.

“The appeal process is there for a reason – for the benefit of everybody – and it’s our right to use it, so we will stand or fall by that outcome.

“I think we have to have as a club a belief we have a cause to get points back, otherwise what’s the point of spending money on the appeal?

“We have to believe as a club that it’s a worthwhile exercise – and the cost of the appeal is being covered by me personally and not the club.”

Green said he was still waiting for a date for the appeal and refused to engage in a war of words with Wakefield counterpart Michael Carter, who this week threatened to walk away from rugby league should the Bulls be successful in their appeal.

Having struggled during the opening weeks of the season, Wakefield are seen as the club most likely to be affected if the Bulls are successful with their appeal, which Carter believes would be unfair.

Having sold a host of players and put his house up as security to ease debts of around £600,000 and prevent Wakefield from going into administration last August, Carter also argues that it would set an unfortunate precedent if Bradford escape punishment.

Green said: “Michael Carter made whatever comments he chose to make for his own reasons and I’m not going to get into a war of words with him or denigrate him.

“I’ve never met the man and I understand he’s got his club’s best interests at heart. But as one of the Super League clubs, he buys into the concept of an appeal and has to stand by any decision the panel makes whether it is good, bad or indifferent.

“Whether we are successful or not is down to an independent panel that every other club supports the existence of.

“If every club supports the existence of an appeal panel then they have to be prepared to accept the outcome of that appeal.

“They might not like it – we might not be successful and we won’t like it – but there has to be a fundamental acceptance that the appeals panel is there for a reason.”

Meanwhile, the Bulls are waiting to discover the seriousness of the injuries suffered by Matty Blythe, James Donaldson, Adam Sidlow and Lee Gaskell during Thursday’s defeat to Leeds.

* The Bulls Under-16s face Leeds at 12pm at Odsal today, followed by the Under-19s’ clash against their Rhinos counterparts at 2.30pm.

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10:23am Sat 19 Apr 14

king karl says...

what about helping us by getting in some players

Even if we win the appeal we will only get 2 points back.... were as good as 8 off wakey with our goal difference

The squad isnt good enough when 100% fit never mind the injuries

I know teams dont want there players to leave and money needs to pass hands to buy players... imagine 2500 max next year at odsal, its not a pretty thought
what about helping us by getting in some players Even if we win the appeal we will only get 2 points back.... were as good as 8 off wakey with our goal difference The squad isnt good enough when 100% fit never mind the injuries I know teams dont want there players to leave and money needs to pass hands to buy players... imagine 2500 max next year at odsal, its not a pretty thought king karl
  • Score: 4

10:48am Sat 19 Apr 14

axelf1963 says...

For someone not keen on giving interviews he is in paper more than a lidl advert
For someone not keen on giving interviews he is in paper more than a lidl advert axelf1963
  • Score: -7

10:50am Sat 19 Apr 14

Forever-Bfd says...

DEFENCE coach and a couple of class players please!! Are we still looking for players?? I am sure fans would like to hear more about what is happening to improve on the field performances Mr Greene seems to be doing everything in other areas which is great but if it is not happening on the pitch we don't get the support. COYB.
DEFENCE coach and a couple of class players please!! Are we still looking for players?? I am sure fans would like to hear more about what is happening to improve on the field performances Mr Greene seems to be doing everything in other areas which is great but if it is not happening on the pitch we don't get the support. COYB. Forever-Bfd
  • Score: 5

10:59am Sat 19 Apr 14

Forever-Bfd says...

Defence coach and a couple of class players please!! Are we looking for players?? Mr Greene is doing great things for the club but what we need is great things happening on the field until then the supporters will not come . COYB
Defence coach and a couple of class players please!! Are we looking for players?? Mr Greene is doing great things for the club but what we need is great things happening on the field until then the supporters will not come . COYB Forever-Bfd
  • Score: 5

11:29am Sat 19 Apr 14

oswald777 says...

Forever-Bfd wrote:
Defence coach and a couple of class players please!! Are we looking for players?? Mr Greene is doing great things for the club but what we need is great things happening on the field until then the supporters will not come . COYB
We've needed a defence coach for years, St Hilaire has been stealing wages for ages now, McNamara was a complete joke and Cummins is just the same, brining in rubbish, playing people out of position and then coming out with the usual, ' an take positives from this' rubbish. He obviously went to the McNamara school of bull s**t.
[quote][p][bold]Forever-Bfd[/bold] wrote: Defence coach and a couple of class players please!! Are we looking for players?? Mr Greene is doing great things for the club but what we need is great things happening on the field until then the supporters will not come . COYB[/p][/quote]We've needed a defence coach for years, St Hilaire has been stealing wages for ages now, McNamara was a complete joke and Cummins is just the same, brining in rubbish, playing people out of position and then coming out with the usual, ' an take positives from this' rubbish. He obviously went to the McNamara school of bull s**t. oswald777
  • Score: 7

11:46am Sat 19 Apr 14

Forever-Bfd says...

oswald777 wrote:
Forever-Bfd wrote:
Defence coach and a couple of class players please!! Are we looking for players?? Mr Greene is doing great things for the club but what we need is great things happening on the field until then the supporters will not come . COYB
We've needed a defence coach for years, St Hilaire has been stealing wages for ages now, McNamara was a complete joke and Cummins is just the same, brining in rubbish, playing people out of position and then coming out with the usual, ' an take positives from this' rubbish. He obviously went to the McNamara school of bull s**t.
McNamara had a much more established set of players Cummings on the other hand has had just a few good players and a load of other THINGS to contend with but it is the experienced players that should be stepping up and not making costly errors like they are week in and week out.
[quote][p][bold]oswald777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forever-Bfd[/bold] wrote: Defence coach and a couple of class players please!! Are we looking for players?? Mr Greene is doing great things for the club but what we need is great things happening on the field until then the supporters will not come . COYB[/p][/quote]We've needed a defence coach for years, St Hilaire has been stealing wages for ages now, McNamara was a complete joke and Cummins is just the same, brining in rubbish, playing people out of position and then coming out with the usual, ' an take positives from this' rubbish. He obviously went to the McNamara school of bull s**t.[/p][/quote]McNamara had a much more established set of players Cummings on the other hand has had just a few good players and a load of other THINGS to contend with but it is the experienced players that should be stepping up and not making costly errors like they are week in and week out. Forever-Bfd
  • Score: 10

12:51pm Sat 19 Apr 14

nosher says...

oswald777 wrote:
Forever-Bfd wrote:
Defence coach and a couple of class players please!! Are we looking for players?? Mr Greene is doing great things for the club but what we need is great things happening on the field until then the supporters will not come . COYB
We've needed a defence coach for years, St Hilaire has been stealing wages for ages now, McNamara was a complete joke and Cummins is just the same, brining in rubbish, playing people out of position and then coming out with the usual, ' an take positives from this' rubbish. He obviously went to the McNamara school of bull s**t.
It annoys me in life these days people say lets look at the positives in everything. It is a good place to be, but not everything has positives. If something is not good enough then say it. You can polish a turd, but you can sprinkle glitter on it.
[quote][p][bold]oswald777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forever-Bfd[/bold] wrote: Defence coach and a couple of class players please!! Are we looking for players?? Mr Greene is doing great things for the club but what we need is great things happening on the field until then the supporters will not come . COYB[/p][/quote]We've needed a defence coach for years, St Hilaire has been stealing wages for ages now, McNamara was a complete joke and Cummins is just the same, brining in rubbish, playing people out of position and then coming out with the usual, ' an take positives from this' rubbish. He obviously went to the McNamara school of bull s**t.[/p][/quote]It annoys me in life these days people say lets look at the positives in everything. It is a good place to be, but not everything has positives. If something is not good enough then say it. You can polish a turd, but you can sprinkle glitter on it. nosher
  • Score: 4

1:26pm Sat 19 Apr 14

Paul from Idle says...

Do you mean you can't polish a turd?
Do you mean you can't polish a turd? Paul from Idle
  • Score: 5

1:37pm Sat 19 Apr 14

spanglishbull.uk says...

I think Marc Green should go out and spend lots of cash on Morley,Chase,Hock,Sm
ith,Hansen,Meli,Glee
son etc.,etc.,We will definitely win everything then.All we will need then is a new coach like Nobby or Iestyn then we will be buzzing.
I think Marc Green should go out and spend lots of cash on Morley,Chase,Hock,Sm ith,Hansen,Meli,Glee son etc.,etc.,We will definitely win everything then.All we will need then is a new coach like Nobby or Iestyn then we will be buzzing. spanglishbull.uk
  • Score: 1

2:02pm Sat 19 Apr 14

nosher says...

Paul from Idle wrote:
Do you mean you can't polish a turd?
yes
[quote][p][bold]Paul from Idle[/bold] wrote: Do you mean you can't polish a turd?[/p][/quote]yes nosher
  • Score: 1

3:29pm Sat 19 Apr 14

vbfg says...

Paul from Idle wrote:
Do you mean you can't polish a turd?
You can roll one in glitter.
[quote][p][bold]Paul from Idle[/bold] wrote: Do you mean you can't polish a turd?[/p][/quote]You can roll one in glitter. vbfg
  • Score: 1

4:22pm Sat 19 Apr 14

axelf1963 says...

Talking of turds afternoon Spangles.
I am sure bulls would swap places with Salford on more than one front.
Talking of turds afternoon Spangles. I am sure bulls would swap places with Salford on more than one front. axelf1963
  • Score: 0

4:49pm Sat 19 Apr 14

bullofbradford says...

Some positive signs. Time will tell. At least the corrupt era of OK is over. There should be follow-up and OK behind bars to prevent similar abuse of the club in future.
Some positive signs. Time will tell. At least the corrupt era of OK is over. There should be follow-up and OK behind bars to prevent similar abuse of the club in future. bullofbradford
  • Score: 13

6:44pm Sat 19 Apr 14

billybobbull says...

Gents. Mr Green has pyt his own reputation, business and personal reputation at stake to take this massive challenge on. He is a successful and proven winner in business. Give him a break please. Losing to Leeds is terrible, but not the end of the world. He has said publicly, keeping us in SL is paramount. As we have learned over the past 10 yrs or so, the business side of the club IS the most important. He will sort that.
when thats done, the rest will follow. The club must be sustainable as a business entity first and foremost. Please be patient. It will come.
Nobby might come back in at a higher levek, but what we need is stability. That will come. Dont jump on the BS bandwagon we have heard before from the naysayers.

It will come.
Gents. Mr Green has pyt his own reputation, business and personal reputation at stake to take this massive challenge on. He is a successful and proven winner in business. Give him a break please. Losing to Leeds is terrible, but not the end of the world. He has said publicly, keeping us in SL is paramount. As we have learned over the past 10 yrs or so, the business side of the club IS the most important. He will sort that. when thats done, the rest will follow. The club must be sustainable as a business entity first and foremost. Please be patient. It will come. Nobby might come back in at a higher levek, but what we need is stability. That will come. Dont jump on the BS bandwagon we have heard before from the naysayers. It will come. billybobbull
  • Score: 8

8:59am Sun 20 Apr 14

raisemeup says...

billybobbull wrote:
Gents. Mr Green has pyt his own reputation, business and personal reputation at stake to take this massive challenge on. He is a successful and proven winner in business. Give him a break please. Losing to Leeds is terrible, but not the end of the world. He has said publicly, keeping us in SL is paramount. As we have learned over the past 10 yrs or so, the business side of the club IS the most important. He will sort that.
when thats done, the rest will follow. The club must be sustainable as a business entity first and foremost. Please be patient. It will come.
Nobby might come back in at a higher levek, but what we need is stability. That will come. Dont jump on the BS bandwagon we have heard before from the naysayers.

It will come.
Well said BBB too many people want things that can't be delivered immediately> frustration and impatience for something to happen straight away is understandable, given what we have all been through this last 3 years (8 if you count the lean years after 2006) However the improvements are starting in the infrastructure and realistically the revenue has to be paramount at this stage in the season, no doubt that the workings of the team is top priority and as he (Marc Green) is no fool, he will realise that telling everyone what the coaching set up will be and who they would be looking at to strengthen the squad, might appease the fans, but it also tells our competitors too much. Whilst he is unwilling (or dismissive) of Carter at Wakefield he obviously isn't going to tell him anything else in a fit of anger, that just plays into the hands of those that wish our demise.
Patience and trust is all that is asked of us at this moment , as I see it, what other choice is available?
[quote][p][bold]billybobbull[/bold] wrote: Gents. Mr Green has pyt his own reputation, business and personal reputation at stake to take this massive challenge on. He is a successful and proven winner in business. Give him a break please. Losing to Leeds is terrible, but not the end of the world. He has said publicly, keeping us in SL is paramount. As we have learned over the past 10 yrs or so, the business side of the club IS the most important. He will sort that. when thats done, the rest will follow. The club must be sustainable as a business entity first and foremost. Please be patient. It will come. Nobby might come back in at a higher levek, but what we need is stability. That will come. Dont jump on the BS bandwagon we have heard before from the naysayers. It will come.[/p][/quote]Well said BBB too many people want things that can't be delivered immediately> frustration and impatience for something to happen straight away is understandable, given what we have all been through this last 3 years (8 if you count the lean years after 2006) However the improvements are starting in the infrastructure and realistically the revenue has to be paramount at this stage in the season, no doubt that the workings of the team is top priority and as he (Marc Green) is no fool, he will realise that telling everyone what the coaching set up will be and who they would be looking at to strengthen the squad, might appease the fans, but it also tells our competitors too much. Whilst he is unwilling (or dismissive) of Carter at Wakefield he obviously isn't going to tell him anything else in a fit of anger, that just plays into the hands of those that wish our demise. Patience and trust is all that is asked of us at this moment , as I see it, what other choice is available? raisemeup
  • Score: 6

10:15am Sun 20 Apr 14

handoff says...

raisemeup wrote:
billybobbull wrote:
Gents. Mr Green has pyt his own reputation, business and personal reputation at stake to take this massive challenge on. He is a successful and proven winner in business. Give him a break please. Losing to Leeds is terrible, but not the end of the world. He has said publicly, keeping us in SL is paramount. As we have learned over the past 10 yrs or so, the business side of the club IS the most important. He will sort that.
when thats done, the rest will follow. The club must be sustainable as a business entity first and foremost. Please be patient. It will come.
Nobby might come back in at a higher levek, but what we need is stability. That will come. Dont jump on the BS bandwagon we have heard before from the naysayers.

It will come.
Well said BBB too many people want things that can't be delivered immediately> frustration and impatience for something to happen straight away is understandable, given what we have all been through this last 3 years (8 if you count the lean years after 2006) However the improvements are starting in the infrastructure and realistically the revenue has to be paramount at this stage in the season, no doubt that the workings of the team is top priority and as he (Marc Green) is no fool, he will realise that telling everyone what the coaching set up will be and who they would be looking at to strengthen the squad, might appease the fans, but it also tells our competitors too much. Whilst he is unwilling (or dismissive) of Carter at Wakefield he obviously isn't going to tell him anything else in a fit of anger, that just plays into the hands of those that wish our demise.
Patience and trust is all that is asked of us at this moment , as I see it, what other choice is available?
When I heard of the loan taken out by Whitcut, there were comments inside the club about what a hard **** this Green bloke was. I thought I'd have a look into his company and make my own mind up, and found a well oiled business based on hard nose business principles. They were right, but not in the way we originally thought (I think Mr Whitcut's legs are safe at least - shame). I for one am cautiously optimistic about the nature of the ownership of my club.
Most people on the terrace have no idea whatsoever about what is required to coach a professional rugby league team. Most people on the terrace would be hard pushed to run the length of the pitch. Most people on the terrace have never played a game in their life and have no idea what is involved in defending against a top flight set of backs running at pace with bodies in motion running different lines. My son, who has played semi pro, commented how it's like trying to cross the outside lane of the M62 at rush hour.

So by all means voice your opinions, but cut Green some slack, shut the f*** up about Cummins and either get behind the team or go stand with the opposition. There's one muppet stands near us who keeps shouting abuse at our players! I can guarantee he he know sod all about rugby league and he's nought by a d***head. I 'politely' asked him to refrain from expressing unhelpful opinions.

I would like to sign another enforcer prop, another halfback and another loose forward, plus another centre. I see our road as very precipitous unless we can bring influential players in who can improve the dynamics of our game. For me, we are too static in attack, lack venom and play the ball too slow. I am constantly struck how much harder the NRL players run the ball in and how much faster of thought they are in exploiting weaknesses. I do think our refereeing structures and personnel get in the way and need improving (as an ex referee) with more competition for places, but we have no control over that.

So, mid term report would read .... After a rocky start, beginning to turn things round off pitch, but further improvement needed on pitch to make it to top flight next year .... More support on terraces needed as well.
[quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]billybobbull[/bold] wrote: Gents. Mr Green has pyt his own reputation, business and personal reputation at stake to take this massive challenge on. He is a successful and proven winner in business. Give him a break please. Losing to Leeds is terrible, but not the end of the world. He has said publicly, keeping us in SL is paramount. As we have learned over the past 10 yrs or so, the business side of the club IS the most important. He will sort that. when thats done, the rest will follow. The club must be sustainable as a business entity first and foremost. Please be patient. It will come. Nobby might come back in at a higher levek, but what we need is stability. That will come. Dont jump on the BS bandwagon we have heard before from the naysayers. It will come.[/p][/quote]Well said BBB too many people want things that can't be delivered immediately> frustration and impatience for something to happen straight away is understandable, given what we have all been through this last 3 years (8 if you count the lean years after 2006) However the improvements are starting in the infrastructure and realistically the revenue has to be paramount at this stage in the season, no doubt that the workings of the team is top priority and as he (Marc Green) is no fool, he will realise that telling everyone what the coaching set up will be and who they would be looking at to strengthen the squad, might appease the fans, but it also tells our competitors too much. Whilst he is unwilling (or dismissive) of Carter at Wakefield he obviously isn't going to tell him anything else in a fit of anger, that just plays into the hands of those that wish our demise. Patience and trust is all that is asked of us at this moment , as I see it, what other choice is available?[/p][/quote]When I heard of the loan taken out by Whitcut, there were comments inside the club about what a hard **** this Green bloke was. I thought I'd have a look into his company and make my own mind up, and found a well oiled business based on hard nose business principles. They were right, but not in the way we originally thought (I think Mr Whitcut's legs are safe at least - shame). I for one am cautiously optimistic about the nature of the ownership of my club. Most people on the terrace have no idea whatsoever about what is required to coach a professional rugby league team. Most people on the terrace would be hard pushed to run the length of the pitch. Most people on the terrace have never played a game in their life and have no idea what is involved in defending against a top flight set of backs running at pace with bodies in motion running different lines. My son, who has played semi pro, commented how it's like trying to cross the outside lane of the M62 at rush hour. So by all means voice your opinions, but cut Green some slack, shut the f*** up about Cummins and either get behind the team or go stand with the opposition. There's one muppet stands near us who keeps shouting abuse at our players! I can guarantee he he know sod all about rugby league and he's nought by a d***head. I 'politely' asked him to refrain from expressing unhelpful opinions. I would like to sign another enforcer prop, another halfback and another loose forward, plus another centre. I see our road as very precipitous unless we can bring influential players in who can improve the dynamics of our game. For me, we are too static in attack, lack venom and play the ball too slow. I am constantly struck how much harder the NRL players run the ball in and how much faster of thought they are in exploiting weaknesses. I do think our refereeing structures and personnel get in the way and need improving (as an ex referee) with more competition for places, but we have no control over that. So, mid term report would read .... After a rocky start, beginning to turn things round off pitch, but further improvement needed on pitch to make it to top flight next year .... More support on terraces needed as well. handoff
  • Score: 9

11:34am Sun 20 Apr 14

spanglishbull.uk says...

Handoff,
The best post I have read on this forum.You obviously know your Rugby League and have some business sense.As you say some of the imbeciles that comment on this site have absolutely no idea of sport or business.As I have said many times on here by all means criticise if you wish but let us hear some constructive criticism or keep your mouth shut.Destructive criticism solves nothing.
Handoff, The best post I have read on this forum.You obviously know your Rugby League and have some business sense.As you say some of the imbeciles that comment on this site have absolutely no idea of sport or business.As I have said many times on here by all means criticise if you wish but let us hear some constructive criticism or keep your mouth shut.Destructive criticism solves nothing. spanglishbull.uk
  • Score: 6

12:05pm Sun 20 Apr 14

axelf1963 says...

Why don't you concentrate on the club instead of Slagging myself and any other poster with a valid opinion just to make Viking happy ?
Why don't you concentrate on the club instead of Slagging myself and any other poster with a valid opinion just to make Viking happy ? axelf1963
  • Score: -7

12:58pm Sun 20 Apr 14

billybobbull says...

axelf1963 wrote:
Why don't you concentrate on the club instead of Slagging myself and any other poster with a valid opinion just to make Viking happy ?
We are.
[quote][p][bold]axelf1963[/bold] wrote: Why don't you concentrate on the club instead of Slagging myself and any other poster with a valid opinion just to make Viking happy ?[/p][/quote]We are. billybobbull
  • Score: 4

2:50pm Sun 20 Apr 14

raisemeup says...

axelf1963 wrote:
Why don't you concentrate on the club instead of Slagging myself and any other poster with a valid opinion just to make Viking happy ?
good idea, what is it??
[quote][p][bold]axelf1963[/bold] wrote: Why don't you concentrate on the club instead of Slagging myself and any other poster with a valid opinion just to make Viking happy ?[/p][/quote]good idea, what is it?? raisemeup
  • Score: 0

5:44pm Sun 20 Apr 14

handoff says...

raisemeup wrote:
billybobbull wrote:
Gents. Mr Green has pyt his own reputation, business and personal reputation at stake to take this massive challenge on. He is a successful and proven winner in business. Give him a break please. Losing to Leeds is terrible, but not the end of the world. He has said publicly, keeping us in SL is paramount. As we have learned over the past 10 yrs or so, the business side of the club IS the most important. He will sort that.
when thats done, the rest will follow. The club must be sustainable as a business entity first and foremost. Please be patient. It will come.
Nobby might come back in at a higher levek, but what we need is stability. That will come. Dont jump on the BS bandwagon we have heard before from the naysayers.

It will come.
Well said BBB too many people want things that can't be delivered immediately> frustration and impatience for something to happen straight away is understandable, given what we have all been through this last 3 years (8 if you count the lean years after 2006) However the improvements are starting in the infrastructure and realistically the revenue has to be paramount at this stage in the season, no doubt that the workings of the team is top priority and as he (Marc Green) is no fool, he will realise that telling everyone what the coaching set up will be and who they would be looking at to strengthen the squad, might appease the fans, but it also tells our competitors too much. Whilst he is unwilling (or dismissive) of Carter at Wakefield he obviously isn't going to tell him anything else in a fit of anger, that just plays into the hands of those that wish our demise.
Patience and trust is all that is asked of us at this moment , as I see it, what other choice is available?
When I heard of the loan taken out by Whitcut, there were comments inside the club about what a hard **** this Green bloke was. I thought I'd have a look into his company and make my own mind up, and found a well oiled business based on hard nose business principles. They were right, but not in the way we originally thought (I think Mr Whitcut's legs are safe at least - shame). I for one am cautiously optimistic about the nature of the ownership of my club.
Most people on the terrace have no idea whatsoever about what is required to coach a professional rugby league team. Most people on the terrace would be hard pushed to run the length of the pitch. Most people on the terrace have never played a game in their life and have no idea what is involved in defending against a top flight set of backs running at pace with bodies in motion running different lines. My son, who has played semi pro, commented how it's like trying to cross the outside lane of the M62 at rush hour.

So by all means voice your opinions, but cut Green some slack, shut the f*** up about Cummins and either get behind the team or go stand with the opposition. There's one muppet stands near us who keeps shouting abuse at our players! I can guarantee he he know sod all about rugby league and he's nought by a d***head. I 'politely' asked him to refrain from expressing unhelpful opinions.

I would like to sign another enforcer prop, another halfback and another loose forward, plus another centre. I see our road as very precipitous unless we can bring influential players in who can improve the dynamics of our game. For me, we are too static in attack, lack venom and play the ball too slow. I am constantly struck how much harder the NRL players run the ball in and how much faster of thought they are in exploiting weaknesses. I do think our refereeing structures and personnel get in the way and need improving (as an ex referee) with more competition for places, but we have no control over that.

So, mid term report would read .... After a rocky start, beginning to turn things round off pitch, but further improvement needed on pitch to make it to top flight next year .... More support on terraces needed as well.
[quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]billybobbull[/bold] wrote: Gents. Mr Green has pyt his own reputation, business and personal reputation at stake to take this massive challenge on. He is a successful and proven winner in business. Give him a break please. Losing to Leeds is terrible, but not the end of the world. He has said publicly, keeping us in SL is paramount. As we have learned over the past 10 yrs or so, the business side of the club IS the most important. He will sort that. when thats done, the rest will follow. The club must be sustainable as a business entity first and foremost. Please be patient. It will come. Nobby might come back in at a higher levek, but what we need is stability. That will come. Dont jump on the BS bandwagon we have heard before from the naysayers. It will come.[/p][/quote]Well said BBB too many people want things that can't be delivered immediately> frustration and impatience for something to happen straight away is understandable, given what we have all been through this last 3 years (8 if you count the lean years after 2006) However the improvements are starting in the infrastructure and realistically the revenue has to be paramount at this stage in the season, no doubt that the workings of the team is top priority and as he (Marc Green) is no fool, he will realise that telling everyone what the coaching set up will be and who they would be looking at to strengthen the squad, might appease the fans, but it also tells our competitors too much. Whilst he is unwilling (or dismissive) of Carter at Wakefield he obviously isn't going to tell him anything else in a fit of anger, that just plays into the hands of those that wish our demise. Patience and trust is all that is asked of us at this moment , as I see it, what other choice is available?[/p][/quote]When I heard of the loan taken out by Whitcut, there were comments inside the club about what a hard **** this Green bloke was. I thought I'd have a look into his company and make my own mind up, and found a well oiled business based on hard nose business principles. They were right, but not in the way we originally thought (I think Mr Whitcut's legs are safe at least - shame). I for one am cautiously optimistic about the nature of the ownership of my club. Most people on the terrace have no idea whatsoever about what is required to coach a professional rugby league team. Most people on the terrace would be hard pushed to run the length of the pitch. Most people on the terrace have never played a game in their life and have no idea what is involved in defending against a top flight set of backs running at pace with bodies in motion running different lines. My son, who has played semi pro, commented how it's like trying to cross the outside lane of the M62 at rush hour. So by all means voice your opinions, but cut Green some slack, shut the f*** up about Cummins and either get behind the team or go stand with the opposition. There's one muppet stands near us who keeps shouting abuse at our players! I can guarantee he he know sod all about rugby league and he's nought by a d***head. I 'politely' asked him to refrain from expressing unhelpful opinions. I would like to sign another enforcer prop, another halfback and another loose forward, plus another centre. I see our road as very precipitous unless we can bring influential players in who can improve the dynamics of our game. For me, we are too static in attack, lack venom and play the ball too slow. I am constantly struck how much harder the NRL players run the ball in and how much faster of thought they are in exploiting weaknesses. I do think our refereeing structures and personnel get in the way and need improving (as an ex referee) with more competition for places, but we have no control over that. So, mid term report would read .... After a rocky start, beginning to turn things round off pitch, but further improvement needed on pitch to make it to top flight next year .... More support on terraces needed as well. handoff
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