Investor like at Rotherham would suit Bradford City just fine

Rotherham chairman Tony Stewart

Rotherham chairman Tony Stewart

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Mark Lawn wishes City could unearth a mega-rich owner like Rotherham chairman Tony Stewart.

The pair have become close pals since Stewart rescued the Millers from administration in 2008.

Stewart has pumped over £30million into the club after making his money with his commercial lighting manufacturing business and paid for the New York Stadium.

As City prepare to face Rotherham tomorrow, Lawn would love to find a similar benefactor for Valley Parade.

The Bantams joint-chairman said: “It would be nice if we could get someone like Tony. But he’s Rotherham through and through so unfortunately he can’t be swayed.

“But there are enough people in Bradford who earn that sort of money. Our door is always open.

“Julian (Rhodes) and myself do as well as we can but we don’t run any other businesses like Tony. His lighting business makes a lot of brass and he puts most of that into Rotherham.

“I’ve known Tony ever since he bought into the club and he’s the chairman I most get on with. The town of Rotherham owe him a huge gratitude for building a great, brand new stadium, as well as the money he continues to put in.

“You see what they get crowd-wise. Thanks to Tony they have a budget way beyond what you could generate otherwise.”

Rotherham’s loss at Sheffield United on Tuesday was their first since New Year’s Day. With a nine-point gap to second-placed Brentford, they are effectively ticking off the days until the play-offs.

Lawn said: “You can stagnate when you’ve got nothing to play for. The momentum sides will be the ones that do it – whether it’s the four in there now or someone like Swindon Town coming through.

“Rotherham have got to be there or thereabouts because they’ve had a very good season. Let’s face it, the play-offs are a lottery and it’s down to the form team and who can time their run.

“You saw what we did last year. If you can put a run together for the last four or five games going into the play-offs, then confidence will be high.”

City have lost their last six games against the Millers and not scored for five. Lawn hopes they can rise to the occasion on live TV to buck that trend.

He said: “A goal would be nice! But we’ve got to look to safety and a draw or a win should do it. Everybody looks at 50 points as being enough. We need to get over that as soon as we can.

“We’ve got to get Oldham out of our system and put in a proper performance. It needs to be similar to how we played at Leyton Orient and we deserved to win there.

“Last year we performed our best on the telly. It’s a local derby and I’m sure everybody will be up for it.”

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8:08am Thu 10 Apr 14

BD16 says...

Personally I am pleased we are nothing like Rotherham.
Personally I am pleased we are nothing like Rotherham. BD16
  • Score: 10

8:51am Thu 10 Apr 14

albioff says...

A new investor would be great but i guess part of the problem is with the city of Bradford itself, the negative image and dirty drabness of the place. Whether the new westfield development will change that, i don't know, i think it might take rather more myself.
A new investor would be great but i guess part of the problem is with the city of Bradford itself, the negative image and dirty drabness of the place. Whether the new westfield development will change that, i don't know, i think it might take rather more myself. albioff
  • Score: 7

9:10am Thu 10 Apr 14

Stafford Heginbantam says...

Maybe Steven Frayne could work his magic at City, he must be worth a bob or two?
Maybe Steven Frayne could work his magic at City, he must be worth a bob or two? Stafford Heginbantam
  • Score: 10

9:46am Thu 10 Apr 14

bobbyo says...

Shame mr tordoff or mr Morrison or both couldn't help!
Shame mr tordoff or mr Morrison or both couldn't help! bobbyo
  • Score: 14

10:34am Thu 10 Apr 14

Peter300 says...

bobbyo wrote:
Shame mr tordoff or mr Morrison or both couldn't help!
Mr Tordoff has helped City greatly over many years. Mr. Morrison was on the City board at one time I believe. I don't think he has any great interest in football. A few years ago some mis-guided individual tried to initiate a boycott of Morrison stores because the guy would not bail-out City. Like this would encourage an investment. I think City are quite fortunate to have Mr. Lawn and Mr. Julian looking after the club. I suppose it would be beneficial if some rich person took an interest in City, but that could have its problems too. Sometimes it becomes so bad that beggars cannot be choosers as witnessed at a club not too far from Bradford.
[quote][p][bold]bobbyo[/bold] wrote: Shame mr tordoff or mr Morrison or both couldn't help![/p][/quote]Mr Tordoff has helped City greatly over many years. Mr. Morrison was on the City board at one time I believe. I don't think he has any great interest in football. A few years ago some mis-guided individual tried to initiate a boycott of Morrison stores because the guy would not bail-out City. Like this would encourage an investment. I think City are quite fortunate to have Mr. Lawn and Mr. Julian looking after the club. I suppose it would be beneficial if some rich person took an interest in City, but that could have its problems too. Sometimes it becomes so bad that beggars cannot be choosers as witnessed at a club not too far from Bradford. Peter300
  • Score: 16

10:37am Thu 10 Apr 14

linebacker2 says...

albioff wrote:
A new investor would be great but i guess part of the problem is with the city of Bradford itself, the negative image and dirty drabness of the place. Whether the new westfield development will change that, i don't know, i think it might take rather more myself.
In contrast to Rotherham's glitzy image?
[quote][p][bold]albioff[/bold] wrote: A new investor would be great but i guess part of the problem is with the city of Bradford itself, the negative image and dirty drabness of the place. Whether the new westfield development will change that, i don't know, i think it might take rather more myself.[/p][/quote]In contrast to Rotherham's glitzy image? linebacker2
  • Score: 32

12:10pm Thu 10 Apr 14

allannicho says...

Stafford Heginbantam wrote:
Maybe Steven Frayne could work his magic at City, he must be worth a bob or two?
Well at least he may help with his many "Contacts" ?
[quote][p][bold]Stafford Heginbantam[/bold] wrote: Maybe Steven Frayne could work his magic at City, he must be worth a bob or two?[/p][/quote]Well at least he may help with his many "Contacts" ? allannicho
  • Score: 8

12:29pm Thu 10 Apr 14

Rambo says...

linebacker2 wrote:
albioff wrote:
A new investor would be great but i guess part of the problem is with the city of Bradford itself, the negative image and dirty drabness of the place. Whether the new westfield development will change that, i don't know, i think it might take rather more myself.
In contrast to Rotherham's glitzy image?
But their chairman is actually from Rotherham and a fan. That reasoning about the general state of the city might apply to an external investor with not connection to the local team or area.

Its fair to say the chances of a wealthy local fan or even someone local who isn't a fan getting involved, particularly in the wake of last year and the promotion we had, are pretty much non-existant.

And Rotherham at least they own their own stadium, brand new as well. Not like Valley Parade, which most fans would admit is in a dump of an area, with pretty poor transport links that in the modern football world don't help.
[quote][p][bold]linebacker2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albioff[/bold] wrote: A new investor would be great but i guess part of the problem is with the city of Bradford itself, the negative image and dirty drabness of the place. Whether the new westfield development will change that, i don't know, i think it might take rather more myself.[/p][/quote]In contrast to Rotherham's glitzy image?[/p][/quote]But their chairman is actually from Rotherham and a fan. That reasoning about the general state of the city might apply to an external investor with not connection to the local team or area. Its fair to say the chances of a wealthy local fan or even someone local who isn't a fan getting involved, particularly in the wake of last year and the promotion we had, are pretty much non-existant. And Rotherham at least they own their own stadium, brand new as well. Not like Valley Parade, which most fans would admit is in a dump of an area, with pretty poor transport links that in the modern football world don't help. Rambo
  • Score: -1

1:04pm Thu 10 Apr 14

Stevie-C says...

bobbyo wrote:
Shame mr tordoff or mr Morrison or both couldn't help!
Tordoff has done as much as he is able to for both City & Bulls

Morrison is the one who owes Bradford a living as far as I am concerned, as it is the people of Bradford who started to build his empire into what it is today. He is just too god-**** tight fisted to give any of it away, the old ****
[quote][p][bold]bobbyo[/bold] wrote: Shame mr tordoff or mr Morrison or both couldn't help![/p][/quote]Tordoff has done as much as he is able to for both City & Bulls Morrison is the one who owes Bradford a living as far as I am concerned, as it is the people of Bradford who started to build his empire into what it is today. He is just too god-**** tight fisted to give any of it away, the old **** Stevie-C
  • Score: 11

1:05pm Thu 10 Apr 14

Stevie-C says...

Stevie-C wrote:
bobbyo wrote:
Shame mr tordoff or mr Morrison or both couldn't help!
Tordoff has done as much as he is able to for both City & Bulls

Morrison is the one who owes Bradford a living as far as I am concerned, as it is the people of Bradford who started to build his empire into what it is today. He is just too god-**** tight fisted to give any of it away, the old ****
how can "d amn" and "f art" be swear words t&a??????
[quote][p][bold]Stevie-C[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bobbyo[/bold] wrote: Shame mr tordoff or mr Morrison or both couldn't help![/p][/quote]Tordoff has done as much as he is able to for both City & Bulls Morrison is the one who owes Bradford a living as far as I am concerned, as it is the people of Bradford who started to build his empire into what it is today. He is just too god-**** tight fisted to give any of it away, the old ****[/p][/quote]how can "d amn" and "f art" be swear words t&a?????? Stevie-C
  • Score: 0

1:19pm Thu 10 Apr 14

Johsay says...

No one owes anyone a living.

Ken kept the HQ in Bradford when many were pushing for it to be relocated to Leeds / near Motorways etc.
No one owes anyone a living. Ken kept the HQ in Bradford when many were pushing for it to be relocated to Leeds / near Motorways etc. Johsay
  • Score: 5

1:29pm Thu 10 Apr 14

OLDLAD says...

Johsay wrote:
No one owes anyone a living.

Ken kept the HQ in Bradford when many were pushing for it to be relocated to Leeds / near Motorways etc.
Thought they were out sourcing to india
[quote][p][bold]Johsay[/bold] wrote: No one owes anyone a living. Ken kept the HQ in Bradford when many were pushing for it to be relocated to Leeds / near Motorways etc.[/p][/quote]Thought they were out sourcing to india OLDLAD
  • Score: 0

2:03pm Thu 10 Apr 14

linebacker2 says...

OLDLAD wrote:
Johsay wrote:
No one owes anyone a living.

Ken kept the HQ in Bradford when many were pushing for it to be relocated to Leeds / near Motorways etc.
Thought they were out sourcing to india
Just the payroll IIRC. go down Gain Lane on a work day, HQ is still rammed with staff
[quote][p][bold]OLDLAD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Johsay[/bold] wrote: No one owes anyone a living. Ken kept the HQ in Bradford when many were pushing for it to be relocated to Leeds / near Motorways etc.[/p][/quote]Thought they were out sourcing to india[/p][/quote]Just the payroll IIRC. go down Gain Lane on a work day, HQ is still rammed with staff linebacker2
  • Score: 2

2:39pm Thu 10 Apr 14

Farsley Bantam says...

BD16 wrote:
Personally I am pleased we are nothing like Rotherham.
Me too. I'd hate it if we owned our own stadium, had a rich owner willing to invest large amounts of money, played free flowing attacking football and were comfortably in the play offs having only lost once since new years day. They must be so envious of us. I pity them, I really do.
[quote][p][bold]BD16[/bold] wrote: Personally I am pleased we are nothing like Rotherham.[/p][/quote]Me too. I'd hate it if we owned our own stadium, had a rich owner willing to invest large amounts of money, played free flowing attacking football and were comfortably in the play offs having only lost once since new years day. They must be so envious of us. I pity them, I really do. Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 8

3:18pm Thu 10 Apr 14

BD16 says...

Farsley Bantam wrote:
BD16 wrote:
Personally I am pleased we are nothing like Rotherham.
Me too. I'd hate it if we owned our own stadium, had a rich owner willing to invest large amounts of money, played free flowing attacking football and were comfortably in the play offs having only lost once since new years day. They must be so envious of us. I pity them, I really do.
I was referring more to the fact that they are a lower division Chelsea or Man City with an obnoxious manager.

Obviously, I want success at City but I'd much rather we earned it rather than bought it.
[quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BD16[/bold] wrote: Personally I am pleased we are nothing like Rotherham.[/p][/quote]Me too. I'd hate it if we owned our own stadium, had a rich owner willing to invest large amounts of money, played free flowing attacking football and were comfortably in the play offs having only lost once since new years day. They must be so envious of us. I pity them, I really do.[/p][/quote]I was referring more to the fact that they are a lower division Chelsea or Man City with an obnoxious manager. Obviously, I want success at City but I'd much rather we earned it rather than bought it. BD16
  • Score: 13

3:52pm Thu 10 Apr 14

linebacker2 says...

Farsley Bantam wrote:
BD16 wrote:
Personally I am pleased we are nothing like Rotherham.
Me too. I'd hate it if we owned our own stadium, had a rich owner willing to invest large amounts of money, played free flowing attacking football and were comfortably in the play offs having only lost once since new years day. They must be so envious of us. I pity them, I really do.
I got two words for you - Steve Evans.
[quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BD16[/bold] wrote: Personally I am pleased we are nothing like Rotherham.[/p][/quote]Me too. I'd hate it if we owned our own stadium, had a rich owner willing to invest large amounts of money, played free flowing attacking football and were comfortably in the play offs having only lost once since new years day. They must be so envious of us. I pity them, I really do.[/p][/quote]I got two words for you - Steve Evans. linebacker2
  • Score: 9

4:22pm Thu 10 Apr 14

audal says...

Mega millions will produce our squad into super stars will it ? GET A LIFE !
Mega millions will produce our squad into super stars will it ? GET A LIFE ! audal
  • Score: -7

4:49pm Thu 10 Apr 14

Farsley Bantam says...

audal wrote:
Mega millions will produce our squad into super stars will it ? GET A LIFE !
Are you serious?
The 'Mega millions' would obviously be spent on new, better players. Not to make our current squad into 'super stars'
Nobody in their right mind would think that putting Garry Thompson on £100K a week would make him Lionel Messi!
[quote][p][bold]audal[/bold] wrote: Mega millions will produce our squad into super stars will it ? GET A LIFE ![/p][/quote]Are you serious? The 'Mega millions' would obviously be spent on new, better players. Not to make our current squad into 'super stars' Nobody in their right mind would think that putting Garry Thompson on £100K a week would make him Lionel Messi! Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 10

5:08pm Thu 10 Apr 14

gordon ramsay says...

audal wrote:
Mega millions will produce our squad into super stars will it ? GET A LIFE !
are you for real?

our squad would be completely overauled

meanwhile in the real world ....money dictates everything and always has!!!

get beyond the childsh obsession with evans and rotherham are how a club should be run...

new ground
local business / fan as a wealthy backer
excellent progress on the pitch
hungry players

grow up!!
[quote][p][bold]audal[/bold] wrote: Mega millions will produce our squad into super stars will it ? GET A LIFE ![/p][/quote]are you for real? our squad would be completely overauled meanwhile in the real world ....money dictates everything and always has!!! get beyond the childsh obsession with evans and rotherham are how a club should be run... new ground local business / fan as a wealthy backer excellent progress on the pitch hungry players grow up!! gordon ramsay
  • Score: 9

7:31pm Thu 10 Apr 14

linebacker2 says...

Farsley Bantam wrote:
audal wrote:
Mega millions will produce our squad into super stars will it ? GET A LIFE !
Are you serious?
The 'Mega millions' would obviously be spent on new, better players. Not to make our current squad into 'super stars'
Nobody in their right mind would think that putting Garry Thompson on £100K a week would make him Lionel Messi!
If it was simply money, how come the Bantams beat Arsenal? Oh and who scored...was it Gary Thompson by any chance?
[quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]audal[/bold] wrote: Mega millions will produce our squad into super stars will it ? GET A LIFE ![/p][/quote]Are you serious? The 'Mega millions' would obviously be spent on new, better players. Not to make our current squad into 'super stars' Nobody in their right mind would think that putting Garry Thompson on £100K a week would make him Lionel Messi![/p][/quote]If it was simply money, how come the Bantams beat Arsenal? Oh and who scored...was it Gary Thompson by any chance? linebacker2
  • Score: 1

7:42pm Thu 10 Apr 14

bcfc1903 says...

I'm surprised Dr Marwan Koukash the owner of Salford Red Devils RLFC hasn't shown an interest in Bradford City Football Club. He was knocked back at Oldham Athletic, BCFC is a far better bet than that club, 13/14,000 guaranteed supporters and the rest if we were successful. We wouldn't cost the earth, just a very good investment for anyone with a love of football and eventually the club.
I'm surprised Dr Marwan Koukash the owner of Salford Red Devils RLFC hasn't shown an interest in Bradford City Football Club. He was knocked back at Oldham Athletic, BCFC is a far better bet than that club, 13/14,000 guaranteed supporters and the rest if we were successful. We wouldn't cost the earth, just a very good investment for anyone with a love of football and eventually the club. bcfc1903
  • Score: 4

7:50pm Thu 10 Apr 14

bcfc1903 says...

Rambo wrote:
linebacker2 wrote:
albioff wrote:
A new investor would be great but i guess part of the problem is with the city of Bradford itself, the negative image and dirty drabness of the place. Whether the new westfield development will change that, i don't know, i think it might take rather more myself.
In contrast to Rotherham's glitzy image?
But their chairman is actually from Rotherham and a fan. That reasoning about the general state of the city might apply to an external investor with not connection to the local team or area.

Its fair to say the chances of a wealthy local fan or even someone local who isn't a fan getting involved, particularly in the wake of last year and the promotion we had, are pretty much non-existant.

And Rotherham at least they own their own stadium, brand new as well. Not like Valley Parade, which most fans would admit is in a dump of an area, with pretty poor transport links that in the modern football world don't help.
Poor transport links haha, I take it you've never seen a bus on Manningham Lane or a train in Forster Square Station. If Dr Koukash was interested in buying Oldham Athletic there could be an investor interested in investing in BCFC just like Geoffrey Richmond did 20 years ago. Bradford is on the up or haven't you seen the numerous cranes dotting the Bradford skyline either.
[quote][p][bold]Rambo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]linebacker2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albioff[/bold] wrote: A new investor would be great but i guess part of the problem is with the city of Bradford itself, the negative image and dirty drabness of the place. Whether the new westfield development will change that, i don't know, i think it might take rather more myself.[/p][/quote]In contrast to Rotherham's glitzy image?[/p][/quote]But their chairman is actually from Rotherham and a fan. That reasoning about the general state of the city might apply to an external investor with not connection to the local team or area. Its fair to say the chances of a wealthy local fan or even someone local who isn't a fan getting involved, particularly in the wake of last year and the promotion we had, are pretty much non-existant. And Rotherham at least they own their own stadium, brand new as well. Not like Valley Parade, which most fans would admit is in a dump of an area, with pretty poor transport links that in the modern football world don't help.[/p][/quote]Poor transport links haha, I take it you've never seen a bus on Manningham Lane or a train in Forster Square Station. If Dr Koukash was interested in buying Oldham Athletic there could be an investor interested in investing in BCFC just like Geoffrey Richmond did 20 years ago. Bradford is on the up or haven't you seen the numerous cranes dotting the Bradford skyline either. bcfc1903
  • Score: 2

8:05pm Thu 10 Apr 14

pokertee says...

Ken Morrison used to sponsor the Scottish national team around 2000 to 2006 but packed that in. And from what i heard hes not a big fan of some of the directors and is supposed to have had a barny with them at some point thats why he wont invest.
Ken Morrison used to sponsor the Scottish national team around 2000 to 2006 but packed that in. And from what i heard hes not a big fan of some of the directors and is supposed to have had a barny with them at some point thats why he wont invest. pokertee
  • Score: 0

8:42pm Thu 10 Apr 14

moanmoanwhingewhinge says...

BD16 wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
BD16 wrote:
Personally I am pleased we are nothing like Rotherham.
Me too. I'd hate it if we owned our own stadium, had a rich owner willing to invest large amounts of money, played free flowing attacking football and were comfortably in the play offs having only lost once since new years day. They must be so envious of us. I pity them, I really do.
I was referring more to the fact that they are a lower division Chelsea or Man City with an obnoxious manager.

Obviously, I want success at City but I'd much rather we earned it rather than bought it.
"I was referring more to the fact that they are a lower division Chelsea or Man City with an obnoxious manager" - don't forget their obnoxious fans too, they're like a lower division L***s
[quote][p][bold]BD16[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BD16[/bold] wrote: Personally I am pleased we are nothing like Rotherham.[/p][/quote]Me too. I'd hate it if we owned our own stadium, had a rich owner willing to invest large amounts of money, played free flowing attacking football and were comfortably in the play offs having only lost once since new years day. They must be so envious of us. I pity them, I really do.[/p][/quote]I was referring more to the fact that they are a lower division Chelsea or Man City with an obnoxious manager. Obviously, I want success at City but I'd much rather we earned it rather than bought it.[/p][/quote]"I was referring more to the fact that they are a lower division Chelsea or Man City with an obnoxious manager" - don't forget their obnoxious fans too, they're like a lower division L***s moanmoanwhingewhinge
  • Score: 0

10:00pm Thu 10 Apr 14

Farsley Bantam says...

linebacker2 wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
audal wrote:
Mega millions will produce our squad into super stars will it ? GET A LIFE !
Are you serious?
The 'Mega millions' would obviously be spent on new, better players. Not to make our current squad into 'super stars'
Nobody in their right mind would think that putting Garry Thompson on £100K a week would make him Lionel Messi!
If it was simply money, how come the Bantams beat Arsenal? Oh and who scored...was it Gary Thompson by any chance?
Come on! We beat Arsenal last season (we actually drew the match and won on penalties) but that in no way proves that 'money isn't everything'. That result was a one off (yes, yes we also beat Wigan and Villa) and if we played the millionaires of Arsenal another ten times I'm sure they would win all ten.
Also I just picked GT as an example. I could have said any of the players.
Yes money isn't eveything otherwise the team that spent the most money would win the league each season. But its no coincidence that (in the PL especially) the teams who spend the most tend to come out on top.
Even in our league Wolves have a budget 10 times bigger than anyone else and are top of the league.
[quote][p][bold]linebacker2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]audal[/bold] wrote: Mega millions will produce our squad into super stars will it ? GET A LIFE ![/p][/quote]Are you serious? The 'Mega millions' would obviously be spent on new, better players. Not to make our current squad into 'super stars' Nobody in their right mind would think that putting Garry Thompson on £100K a week would make him Lionel Messi![/p][/quote]If it was simply money, how come the Bantams beat Arsenal? Oh and who scored...was it Gary Thompson by any chance?[/p][/quote]Come on! We beat Arsenal last season (we actually drew the match and won on penalties) but that in no way proves that 'money isn't everything'. That result was a one off (yes, yes we also beat Wigan and Villa) and if we played the millionaires of Arsenal another ten times I'm sure they would win all ten. Also I just picked GT as an example. I could have said any of the players. Yes money isn't eveything otherwise the team that spent the most money would win the league each season. But its no coincidence that (in the PL especially) the teams who spend the most tend to come out on top. Even in our league Wolves have a budget 10 times bigger than anyone else and are top of the league. Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 4

10:04pm Thu 10 Apr 14

Farsley Bantam says...

moanmoanwhingewhinge wrote:
BD16 wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
BD16 wrote:
Personally I am pleased we are nothing like Rotherham.
Me too. I'd hate it if we owned our own stadium, had a rich owner willing to invest large amounts of money, played free flowing attacking football and were comfortably in the play offs having only lost once since new years day. They must be so envious of us. I pity them, I really do.
I was referring more to the fact that they are a lower division Chelsea or Man City with an obnoxious manager.

Obviously, I want success at City but I'd much rather we earned it rather than bought it.
"I was referring more to the fact that they are a lower division Chelsea or Man City with an obnoxious manager" - don't forget their obnoxious fans too, they're like a lower division L***s
'don't forget their obnoxious fans too'

We can hardly talk. Our fans behaved appallingly when we played at their place in the cup this season.
[quote][p][bold]moanmoanwhingewhinge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BD16[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BD16[/bold] wrote: Personally I am pleased we are nothing like Rotherham.[/p][/quote]Me too. I'd hate it if we owned our own stadium, had a rich owner willing to invest large amounts of money, played free flowing attacking football and were comfortably in the play offs having only lost once since new years day. They must be so envious of us. I pity them, I really do.[/p][/quote]I was referring more to the fact that they are a lower division Chelsea or Man City with an obnoxious manager. Obviously, I want success at City but I'd much rather we earned it rather than bought it.[/p][/quote]"I was referring more to the fact that they are a lower division Chelsea or Man City with an obnoxious manager" - don't forget their obnoxious fans too, they're like a lower division L***s[/p][/quote]'don't forget their obnoxious fans too' We can hardly talk. Our fans behaved appallingly when we played at their place in the cup this season. Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 4

10:15pm Thu 10 Apr 14

Farsley Bantam says...

BD16 wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
BD16 wrote:
Personally I am pleased we are nothing like Rotherham.
Me too. I'd hate it if we owned our own stadium, had a rich owner willing to invest large amounts of money, played free flowing attacking football and were comfortably in the play offs having only lost once since new years day. They must be so envious of us. I pity them, I really do.
I was referring more to the fact that they are a lower division Chelsea or Man City with an obnoxious manager.

Obviously, I want success at City but I'd much rather we earned it rather than bought it.
It's a bit different to Chelsea or Man City. Rotherham have been bought out by a local boy done good and a life long fan who has earned his money legitimately. Unlike Chelsea who have been bank rolled by a Russian oligarch who made his money through dodgy deals. Or Man City who's wealth comes from an oil rich Sheik who has spent £1bn of his inherited wealth on his play thing.
I wouldn't want someone with no previous affinity with the club to take us over with dodgy money. But a genuine fan with 'honest' money would be more than welcomed by my if it helped bring us success.
Equally I could put up with an 'obnoxious manager' if it meant we played entertaining football and we had plenty of success on the pitch.
[quote][p][bold]BD16[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BD16[/bold] wrote: Personally I am pleased we are nothing like Rotherham.[/p][/quote]Me too. I'd hate it if we owned our own stadium, had a rich owner willing to invest large amounts of money, played free flowing attacking football and were comfortably in the play offs having only lost once since new years day. They must be so envious of us. I pity them, I really do.[/p][/quote]I was referring more to the fact that they are a lower division Chelsea or Man City with an obnoxious manager. Obviously, I want success at City but I'd much rather we earned it rather than bought it.[/p][/quote]It's a bit different to Chelsea or Man City. Rotherham have been bought out by a local boy done good and a life long fan who has earned his money legitimately. Unlike Chelsea who have been bank rolled by a Russian oligarch who made his money through dodgy deals. Or Man City who's wealth comes from an oil rich Sheik who has spent £1bn of his inherited wealth on his play thing. I wouldn't want someone with no previous affinity with the club to take us over with dodgy money. But a genuine fan with 'honest' money would be more than welcomed by my if it helped bring us success. Equally I could put up with an 'obnoxious manager' if it meant we played entertaining football and we had plenty of success on the pitch. Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 3

11:42pm Thu 10 Apr 14

Papa Smurfs Wig says...

Peter300 wrote:
bobbyo wrote:
Shame mr tordoff or mr Morrison or both couldn't help!
Mr Tordoff has helped City greatly over many years. Mr. Morrison was on the City board at one time I believe. I don't think he has any great interest in football. A few years ago some mis-guided individual tried to initiate a boycott of Morrison stores because the guy would not bail-out City. Like this would encourage an investment. I think City are quite fortunate to have Mr. Lawn and Mr. Julian looking after the club. I suppose it would be beneficial if some rich person took an interest in City, but that could have its problems too. Sometimes it becomes so bad that beggars cannot be choosers as witnessed at a club not too far from Bradford.
When Jack was the chsirman he said we don't sign players over the age of 24 and we're a selling club. We had deals sorted out with Keith Curle and Andy Townsend but he jnocked them back. The small squad couldn't last and we lost on the play offs to Middlesborough and we'd have been in the top flight but he wouldn't spend.
Ken was annoyed at what the then directors at the time.
City fans need to forget about Evans and the having a go gets to the players.
Many fans said Evans would be out of his depth this season, well he's done ok from what l've seen.
Having money doesn't always work, Moyes signed a mophead that doesn't work very well.
Julian and Mark have done well.
[quote][p][bold]Peter300[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bobbyo[/bold] wrote: Shame mr tordoff or mr Morrison or both couldn't help![/p][/quote]Mr Tordoff has helped City greatly over many years. Mr. Morrison was on the City board at one time I believe. I don't think he has any great interest in football. A few years ago some mis-guided individual tried to initiate a boycott of Morrison stores because the guy would not bail-out City. Like this would encourage an investment. I think City are quite fortunate to have Mr. Lawn and Mr. Julian looking after the club. I suppose it would be beneficial if some rich person took an interest in City, but that could have its problems too. Sometimes it becomes so bad that beggars cannot be choosers as witnessed at a club not too far from Bradford.[/p][/quote]When Jack was the chsirman he said we don't sign players over the age of 24 and we're a selling club. We had deals sorted out with Keith Curle and Andy Townsend but he jnocked them back. The small squad couldn't last and we lost on the play offs to Middlesborough and we'd have been in the top flight but he wouldn't spend. Ken was annoyed at what the then directors at the time. City fans need to forget about Evans and the having a go gets to the players. Many fans said Evans would be out of his depth this season, well he's done ok from what l've seen. Having money doesn't always work, Moyes signed a mophead that doesn't work very well. Julian and Mark have done well. Papa Smurfs Wig
  • Score: 2

12:19am Fri 11 Apr 14

Tecnotronic says...

Rotherham still have doubts over midfielder Lee Frecklington (back) after he missed Tuesday's defeat by Sheffield United.
Defender Kari Arnason picked up a knock in that match but should play.
Bradford City striker Aaron Mclean is set to miss out with a hamstring injury.
Fellow striker Andy Gray (shingles) and midfielder Nathan Doyle (groin) are back in contention but James Hanson (back) is still out
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/sport/0/football/26
879878
Rotherham still have doubts over midfielder Lee Frecklington (back) after he missed Tuesday's defeat by Sheffield United. Defender Kari Arnason picked up a knock in that match but should play. Bradford City striker Aaron Mclean is set to miss out with a hamstring injury. Fellow striker Andy Gray (shingles) and midfielder Nathan Doyle (groin) are back in contention but James Hanson (back) is still out http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/26 879878 Tecnotronic
  • Score: 0

11:25am Fri 11 Apr 14

Danstarr69 says...

Papa Smurfs Wig wrote:
Peter300 wrote:
bobbyo wrote:
Shame mr tordoff or mr Morrison or both couldn't help!
Mr Tordoff has helped City greatly over many years. Mr. Morrison was on the City board at one time I believe. I don't think he has any great interest in football. A few years ago some mis-guided individual tried to initiate a boycott of Morrison stores because the guy would not bail-out City. Like this would encourage an investment. I think City are quite fortunate to have Mr. Lawn and Mr. Julian looking after the club. I suppose it would be beneficial if some rich person took an interest in City, but that could have its problems too. Sometimes it becomes so bad that beggars cannot be choosers as witnessed at a club not too far from Bradford.
When Jack was the chsirman he said we don't sign players over the age of 24 and we're a selling club. We had deals sorted out with Keith Curle and Andy Townsend but he jnocked them back. The small squad couldn't last and we lost on the play offs to Middlesborough and we'd have been in the top flight but he wouldn't spend.
Ken was annoyed at what the then directors at the time.
City fans need to forget about Evans and the having a go gets to the players.
Many fans said Evans would be out of his depth this season, well he's done ok from what l've seen.
Having money doesn't always work, Moyes signed a mophead that doesn't work very well.
Julian and Mark have done well.
I wasn't Born at the time Tordoff took over but imo he is not a 'fan' and I don't like him.

I first heard about him about 10-12 years ago as some rich guy who had something to do with city I didn't take much notice then, but since I found out how rich he is about 5 years ago, I've been taking notice of stories about him and what people have said.

He's like Marmite. Some people love him, some people hate him.....but it seems around 60% are with me on this.

Here's a bit of what I know (there's a few thing's I've forgotton about though)

In 1983 he 'saved' the club with Stafford Heginbotham by buying the club for £30,000 each. He later bought out Heginbotham for £400,000.

In 1988 he refused to buy player's Andy Townsend & Keith Curle who have admitted themselves that they had agreed contracts with us, but Tordoff wouldn't pay the extra £200k to bring them here. Brian Mitchell has also confirmed this.

He used reasons like "we're already good enough", "he might break his leg next week", "they're too expensive" and according to fans and players he 'opted for the cheaper option' and signed Kennedy instead.

The players he sold from 1987-1989 were appoximately £2,025,000 and the ones he brought in were approximately £1,380,000 from what I've worked out.

Stuart McCall, Terry Dolan and others have stated if we brought in the 1st choice players we wanted we wouldn't have missed out on Promotion to the old 1st division (Premier League) by 1 point.
We were flying at the top of the table up until that point, but with injuries in a small squad they needed the players badly.
We apparently had crowds of over 18,000 every week at that time.

In 1990 he sold city for a £300,000 profit for £700,000, with a few people saying he pocketed some of the transfer profits too. He left his chairmanship to chants of abuse from fans. Stuart McCall had to take him to court to get the signing on fee he was owed too.

He's sponsored the kits many times over the years, and now he's sponsoring the main stand.

What that say's to some people is "He's helping out our club with his few hundred grand of sponsorship money"

What that say's to me is "Cheap Advertising for my multi million pound making company!"

Where was he in the last 3 administrations? He could easily afford to give us the money, but he always wants to get 'something back' in my opinion. According to a few people who have worked for JCT600 he's a bit of a b*****d, and apparently told his family to stop going to city when we turned him down and went with 'Bradford & Bingley' sponsorship instead.

In 2013 he was 9th in Yorkshire's Richest People. In total he's worth £330,000,000!!!

He missed the Capital One Cup Final because he had 'booked' a holiday. Cancel it, its not like he couldn't afford to.

My reasons for not liking him broken down:
1) He cost us promotion to the Premier League.
2) Sponsorship = Advertising = Profits
3) Only 'saved' our club at the last minute because he knew he would make a profit.
4) Even some ex players & managers don't like him.
5) He's supposedly a fan, yet he can't spare approximately £8M of his £330M to buy VP back
6) He'd rather be on holiday than at city.
7) Stuff I can't remember...
[quote][p][bold]Papa Smurfs Wig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peter300[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bobbyo[/bold] wrote: Shame mr tordoff or mr Morrison or both couldn't help![/p][/quote]Mr Tordoff has helped City greatly over many years. Mr. Morrison was on the City board at one time I believe. I don't think he has any great interest in football. A few years ago some mis-guided individual tried to initiate a boycott of Morrison stores because the guy would not bail-out City. Like this would encourage an investment. I think City are quite fortunate to have Mr. Lawn and Mr. Julian looking after the club. I suppose it would be beneficial if some rich person took an interest in City, but that could have its problems too. Sometimes it becomes so bad that beggars cannot be choosers as witnessed at a club not too far from Bradford.[/p][/quote]When Jack was the chsirman he said we don't sign players over the age of 24 and we're a selling club. We had deals sorted out with Keith Curle and Andy Townsend but he jnocked them back. The small squad couldn't last and we lost on the play offs to Middlesborough and we'd have been in the top flight but he wouldn't spend. Ken was annoyed at what the then directors at the time. City fans need to forget about Evans and the having a go gets to the players. Many fans said Evans would be out of his depth this season, well he's done ok from what l've seen. Having money doesn't always work, Moyes signed a mophead that doesn't work very well. Julian and Mark have done well.[/p][/quote]I wasn't Born at the time Tordoff took over but imo he is not a 'fan' and I don't like him. I first heard about him about 10-12 years ago as some rich guy who had something to do with city I didn't take much notice then, but since I found out how rich he is about 5 years ago, I've been taking notice of stories about him and what people have said. He's like Marmite. Some people love him, some people hate him.....but it seems around 60% are with me on this. Here's a bit of what I know (there's a few thing's I've forgotton about though) In 1983 he 'saved' the club with Stafford Heginbotham by buying the club for £30,000 each. He later bought out Heginbotham for £400,000. In 1988 he refused to buy player's Andy Townsend & Keith Curle who have admitted themselves that they had agreed contracts with us, but Tordoff wouldn't pay the extra £200k to bring them here. Brian Mitchell has also confirmed this. He used reasons like "we're already good enough", "he might break his leg next week", "they're too expensive" and according to fans and players he 'opted for the cheaper option' and signed Kennedy instead. The players he sold from 1987-1989 were appoximately £2,025,000 and the ones he brought in were approximately £1,380,000 from what I've worked out. Stuart McCall, Terry Dolan and others have stated if we brought in the 1st choice players we wanted we wouldn't have missed out on Promotion to the old 1st division (Premier League) by 1 point. We were flying at the top of the table up until that point, but with injuries in a small squad they needed the players badly. We apparently had crowds of over 18,000 every week at that time. In 1990 he sold city for a £300,000 profit for £700,000, with a few people saying he pocketed some of the transfer profits too. He left his chairmanship to chants of abuse from fans. Stuart McCall had to take him to court to get the signing on fee he was owed too. He's sponsored the kits many times over the years, and now he's sponsoring the main stand. What that say's to some people is "He's helping out our club with his few hundred grand of sponsorship money" What that say's to me is "Cheap Advertising for my multi million pound making company!" Where was he in the last 3 administrations? He could easily afford to give us the money, but he always wants to get 'something back' in my opinion. According to a few people who have worked for JCT600 he's a bit of a b*****d, and apparently told his family to stop going to city when we turned him down and went with 'Bradford & Bingley' sponsorship instead. In 2013 he was 9th in Yorkshire's Richest People. In total he's worth £330,000,000!!! He missed the Capital One Cup Final because he had 'booked' a holiday. Cancel it, its not like he couldn't afford to. My reasons for not liking him broken down: 1) He cost us promotion to the Premier League. 2) Sponsorship = Advertising = Profits 3) Only 'saved' our club at the last minute because he knew he would make a profit. 4) Even some ex players & managers don't like him. 5) He's supposedly a fan, yet he can't spare approximately £8M of his £330M to buy VP back 6) He'd rather be on holiday than at city. 7) Stuff I can't remember... Danstarr69
  • Score: 1

11:34am Fri 11 Apr 14

bcfc mad85 says...

albioff wrote:
A new investor would be great but i guess part of the problem is with the city of Bradford itself, the negative image and dirty drabness of the place. Whether the new westfield development will change that, i don't know, i think it might take rather more myself.
Have. You ever been to Rotherham
[quote][p][bold]albioff[/bold] wrote: A new investor would be great but i guess part of the problem is with the city of Bradford itself, the negative image and dirty drabness of the place. Whether the new westfield development will change that, i don't know, i think it might take rather more myself.[/p][/quote]Have. You ever been to Rotherham bcfc mad85
  • Score: 1

3:53pm Fri 11 Apr 14

lawsonio123 says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
Rambo wrote:
linebacker2 wrote:
albioff wrote:
A new investor would be great but i guess part of the problem is with the city of Bradford itself, the negative image and dirty drabness of the place. Whether the new westfield development will change that, i don't know, i think it might take rather more myself.
In contrast to Rotherham's glitzy image?
But their chairman is actually from Rotherham and a fan. That reasoning about the general state of the city might apply to an external investor with not connection to the local team or area.

Its fair to say the chances of a wealthy local fan or even someone local who isn't a fan getting involved, particularly in the wake of last year and the promotion we had, are pretty much non-existant.

And Rotherham at least they own their own stadium, brand new as well. Not like Valley Parade, which most fans would admit is in a dump of an area, with pretty poor transport links that in the modern football world don't help.
Poor transport links haha, I take it you've never seen a bus on Manningham Lane or a train in Forster Square Station. If Dr Koukash was interested in buying Oldham Athletic there could be an investor interested in investing in BCFC just like Geoffrey Richmond did 20 years ago. Bradford is on the up or haven't you seen the numerous cranes dotting the Bradford skyline either.
Richmond got a lot of money from the public in shares. Our directors do not seem keen on this idea
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rambo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]linebacker2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albioff[/bold] wrote: A new investor would be great but i guess part of the problem is with the city of Bradford itself, the negative image and dirty drabness of the place. Whether the new westfield development will change that, i don't know, i think it might take rather more myself.[/p][/quote]In contrast to Rotherham's glitzy image?[/p][/quote]But their chairman is actually from Rotherham and a fan. That reasoning about the general state of the city might apply to an external investor with not connection to the local team or area. Its fair to say the chances of a wealthy local fan or even someone local who isn't a fan getting involved, particularly in the wake of last year and the promotion we had, are pretty much non-existant. And Rotherham at least they own their own stadium, brand new as well. Not like Valley Parade, which most fans would admit is in a dump of an area, with pretty poor transport links that in the modern football world don't help.[/p][/quote]Poor transport links haha, I take it you've never seen a bus on Manningham Lane or a train in Forster Square Station. If Dr Koukash was interested in buying Oldham Athletic there could be an investor interested in investing in BCFC just like Geoffrey Richmond did 20 years ago. Bradford is on the up or haven't you seen the numerous cranes dotting the Bradford skyline either.[/p][/quote]Richmond got a lot of money from the public in shares. Our directors do not seem keen on this idea lawsonio123
  • Score: 0

4:04pm Fri 11 Apr 14

lawsonio123 says...

Danstarr69 wrote:
Papa Smurfs Wig wrote:
Peter300 wrote:
bobbyo wrote:
Shame mr tordoff or mr Morrison or both couldn't help!
Mr Tordoff has helped City greatly over many years. Mr. Morrison was on the City board at one time I believe. I don't think he has any great interest in football. A few years ago some mis-guided individual tried to initiate a boycott of Morrison stores because the guy would not bail-out City. Like this would encourage an investment. I think City are quite fortunate to have Mr. Lawn and Mr. Julian looking after the club. I suppose it would be beneficial if some rich person took an interest in City, but that could have its problems too. Sometimes it becomes so bad that beggars cannot be choosers as witnessed at a club not too far from Bradford.
When Jack was the chsirman he said we don't sign players over the age of 24 and we're a selling club. We had deals sorted out with Keith Curle and Andy Townsend but he jnocked them back. The small squad couldn't last and we lost on the play offs to Middlesborough and we'd have been in the top flight but he wouldn't spend.
Ken was annoyed at what the then directors at the time.
City fans need to forget about Evans and the having a go gets to the players.
Many fans said Evans would be out of his depth this season, well he's done ok from what l've seen.
Having money doesn't always work, Moyes signed a mophead that doesn't work very well.
Julian and Mark have done well.
I wasn't Born at the time Tordoff took over but imo he is not a 'fan' and I don't like him.

I first heard about him about 10-12 years ago as some rich guy who had something to do with city I didn't take much notice then, but since I found out how rich he is about 5 years ago, I've been taking notice of stories about him and what people have said.

He's like Marmite. Some people love him, some people hate him.....but it seems around 60% are with me on this.

Here's a bit of what I know (there's a few thing's I've forgotton about though)

In 1983 he 'saved' the club with Stafford Heginbotham by buying the club for £30,000 each. He later bought out Heginbotham for £400,000.

In 1988 he refused to buy player's Andy Townsend & Keith Curle who have admitted themselves that they had agreed contracts with us, but Tordoff wouldn't pay the extra £200k to bring them here. Brian Mitchell has also confirmed this.

He used reasons like "we're already good enough", "he might break his leg next week", "they're too expensive" and according to fans and players he 'opted for the cheaper option' and signed Kennedy instead.

The players he sold from 1987-1989 were appoximately £2,025,000 and the ones he brought in were approximately £1,380,000 from what I've worked out.

Stuart McCall, Terry Dolan and others have stated if we brought in the 1st choice players we wanted we wouldn't have missed out on Promotion to the old 1st division (Premier League) by 1 point.
We were flying at the top of the table up until that point, but with injuries in a small squad they needed the players badly.
We apparently had crowds of over 18,000 every week at that time.

In 1990 he sold city for a £300,000 profit for £700,000, with a few people saying he pocketed some of the transfer profits too. He left his chairmanship to chants of abuse from fans. Stuart McCall had to take him to court to get the signing on fee he was owed too.

He's sponsored the kits many times over the years, and now he's sponsoring the main stand.

What that say's to some people is "He's helping out our club with his few hundred grand of sponsorship money"

What that say's to me is "Cheap Advertising for my multi million pound making company!"

Where was he in the last 3 administrations? He could easily afford to give us the money, but he always wants to get 'something back' in my opinion. According to a few people who have worked for JCT600 he's a bit of a b*****d, and apparently told his family to stop going to city when we turned him down and went with 'Bradford & Bingley' sponsorship instead.

In 2013 he was 9th in Yorkshire's Richest People. In total he's worth £330,000,000!!!

He missed the Capital One Cup Final because he had 'booked' a holiday. Cancel it, its not like he couldn't afford to.

My reasons for not liking him broken down:
1) He cost us promotion to the Premier League.
2) Sponsorship = Advertising = Profits
3) Only 'saved' our club at the last minute because he knew he would make a profit.
4) Even some ex players & managers don't like him.
5) He's supposedly a fan, yet he can't spare approximately £8M of his £330M to buy VP back
6) He'd rather be on holiday than at city.
7) Stuff I can't remember...
Jack Tordoff is monitory driven he needs his profit
[quote][p][bold]Danstarr69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Papa Smurfs Wig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peter300[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bobbyo[/bold] wrote: Shame mr tordoff or mr Morrison or both couldn't help![/p][/quote]Mr Tordoff has helped City greatly over many years. Mr. Morrison was on the City board at one time I believe. I don't think he has any great interest in football. A few years ago some mis-guided individual tried to initiate a boycott of Morrison stores because the guy would not bail-out City. Like this would encourage an investment. I think City are quite fortunate to have Mr. Lawn and Mr. Julian looking after the club. I suppose it would be beneficial if some rich person took an interest in City, but that could have its problems too. Sometimes it becomes so bad that beggars cannot be choosers as witnessed at a club not too far from Bradford.[/p][/quote]When Jack was the chsirman he said we don't sign players over the age of 24 and we're a selling club. We had deals sorted out with Keith Curle and Andy Townsend but he jnocked them back. The small squad couldn't last and we lost on the play offs to Middlesborough and we'd have been in the top flight but he wouldn't spend. Ken was annoyed at what the then directors at the time. City fans need to forget about Evans and the having a go gets to the players. Many fans said Evans would be out of his depth this season, well he's done ok from what l've seen. Having money doesn't always work, Moyes signed a mophead that doesn't work very well. Julian and Mark have done well.[/p][/quote]I wasn't Born at the time Tordoff took over but imo he is not a 'fan' and I don't like him. I first heard about him about 10-12 years ago as some rich guy who had something to do with city I didn't take much notice then, but since I found out how rich he is about 5 years ago, I've been taking notice of stories about him and what people have said. He's like Marmite. Some people love him, some people hate him.....but it seems around 60% are with me on this. Here's a bit of what I know (there's a few thing's I've forgotton about though) In 1983 he 'saved' the club with Stafford Heginbotham by buying the club for £30,000 each. He later bought out Heginbotham for £400,000. In 1988 he refused to buy player's Andy Townsend & Keith Curle who have admitted themselves that they had agreed contracts with us, but Tordoff wouldn't pay the extra £200k to bring them here. Brian Mitchell has also confirmed this. He used reasons like "we're already good enough", "he might break his leg next week", "they're too expensive" and according to fans and players he 'opted for the cheaper option' and signed Kennedy instead. The players he sold from 1987-1989 were appoximately £2,025,000 and the ones he brought in were approximately £1,380,000 from what I've worked out. Stuart McCall, Terry Dolan and others have stated if we brought in the 1st choice players we wanted we wouldn't have missed out on Promotion to the old 1st division (Premier League) by 1 point. We were flying at the top of the table up until that point, but with injuries in a small squad they needed the players badly. We apparently had crowds of over 18,000 every week at that time. In 1990 he sold city for a £300,000 profit for £700,000, with a few people saying he pocketed some of the transfer profits too. He left his chairmanship to chants of abuse from fans. Stuart McCall had to take him to court to get the signing on fee he was owed too. He's sponsored the kits many times over the years, and now he's sponsoring the main stand. What that say's to some people is "He's helping out our club with his few hundred grand of sponsorship money" What that say's to me is "Cheap Advertising for my multi million pound making company!" Where was he in the last 3 administrations? He could easily afford to give us the money, but he always wants to get 'something back' in my opinion. According to a few people who have worked for JCT600 he's a bit of a b*****d, and apparently told his family to stop going to city when we turned him down and went with 'Bradford & Bingley' sponsorship instead. In 2013 he was 9th in Yorkshire's Richest People. In total he's worth £330,000,000!!! He missed the Capital One Cup Final because he had 'booked' a holiday. Cancel it, its not like he couldn't afford to. My reasons for not liking him broken down: 1) He cost us promotion to the Premier League. 2) Sponsorship = Advertising = Profits 3) Only 'saved' our club at the last minute because he knew he would make a profit. 4) Even some ex players & managers don't like him. 5) He's supposedly a fan, yet he can't spare approximately £8M of his £330M to buy VP back 6) He'd rather be on holiday than at city. 7) Stuff I can't remember...[/p][/quote]Jack Tordoff is monitory driven he needs his profit lawsonio123
  • Score: 0

1:43am Sat 12 Apr 14

Rambo says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
Rambo wrote:
linebacker2 wrote:
albioff wrote:
A new investor would be great but i guess part of the problem is with the city of Bradford itself, the negative image and dirty drabness of the place. Whether the new westfield development will change that, i don't know, i think it might take rather more myself.
In contrast to Rotherham's glitzy image?
But their chairman is actually from Rotherham and a fan. That reasoning about the general state of the city might apply to an external investor with not connection to the local team or area.

Its fair to say the chances of a wealthy local fan or even someone local who isn't a fan getting involved, particularly in the wake of last year and the promotion we had, are pretty much non-existant.

And Rotherham at least they own their own stadium, brand new as well. Not like Valley Parade, which most fans would admit is in a dump of an area, with pretty poor transport links that in the modern football world don't help.
Poor transport links haha, I take it you've never seen a bus on Manningham Lane or a train in Forster Square Station. If Dr Koukash was interested in buying Oldham Athletic there could be an investor interested in investing in BCFC just like Geoffrey Richmond did 20 years ago. Bradford is on the up or haven't you seen the numerous cranes dotting the Bradford skyline either.
I stand by my point about transport. The fact is its miles away from the motorways, parking around the ground is terrible and risky - look at the own advice the club puts out about about break ins.

VP is in a toilet of an area (that you don't deny) and if it wasn't for the fire they probably would have moved away years ago.

Your last statement is irrelevant as nothing has been built yet and given the last 10 years I and everyone else have full reason to be sceptical. Have they decided what to do with the Odeon yet or are they still scratching their balls?

And as for your statement about '13-14,000 guaranteed supporters"... we were still getting just about 8000 just over a year ago. Lets see what the ST sales will be now the Wembley fever has died off and we're back to being a boring side again.

And I never mentioned the guy who bought Salford.
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rambo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]linebacker2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albioff[/bold] wrote: A new investor would be great but i guess part of the problem is with the city of Bradford itself, the negative image and dirty drabness of the place. Whether the new westfield development will change that, i don't know, i think it might take rather more myself.[/p][/quote]In contrast to Rotherham's glitzy image?[/p][/quote]But their chairman is actually from Rotherham and a fan. That reasoning about the general state of the city might apply to an external investor with not connection to the local team or area. Its fair to say the chances of a wealthy local fan or even someone local who isn't a fan getting involved, particularly in the wake of last year and the promotion we had, are pretty much non-existant. And Rotherham at least they own their own stadium, brand new as well. Not like Valley Parade, which most fans would admit is in a dump of an area, with pretty poor transport links that in the modern football world don't help.[/p][/quote]Poor transport links haha, I take it you've never seen a bus on Manningham Lane or a train in Forster Square Station. If Dr Koukash was interested in buying Oldham Athletic there could be an investor interested in investing in BCFC just like Geoffrey Richmond did 20 years ago. Bradford is on the up or haven't you seen the numerous cranes dotting the Bradford skyline either.[/p][/quote]I stand by my point about transport. The fact is its miles away from the motorways, parking around the ground is terrible and risky - look at the own advice the club puts out about about break ins. VP is in a toilet of an area (that you don't deny) and if it wasn't for the fire they probably would have moved away years ago. Your last statement is irrelevant as nothing has been built yet and given the last 10 years I and everyone else have full reason to be sceptical. Have they decided what to do with the Odeon yet or are they still scratching their balls? And as for your statement about '13-14,000 guaranteed supporters"... we were still getting just about 8000 just over a year ago. Lets see what the ST sales will be now the Wembley fever has died off and we're back to being a boring side again. And I never mentioned the guy who bought Salford. Rambo
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