Bad injuries to Matt Diskin and Adam Sidlow further blows for Bradford Bulls

Matt Diskin is helped off the pitch during the Bulls’ loss at Hull KR - Picture: Simon Renilson/Hull Daily Mail

Matt Diskin is helped off the pitch during the Bulls’ loss at Hull KR - Picture: Simon Renilson/Hull Daily Mail

First published in Sport Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Photograph of the Author by , Bradford Bulls Reporter

Matt Diskin and Adam Sidlow appear set for lengthy spells on the sidelines after suffering serious injuries during yesterday’s 16-0 defeat at Hull KR.

Bulls skipper Diskin tore his calf and prop Sidlow sustained a suspected broken leg, with both men having to be helped off the field in clear discomfort.

Sidlow watched the second half of the match from the stands and travelled back to Bradford on the team coach but he was due to undergo an x-ray last night to discover the extent of the injury.

Head coach Francis Cummins said: “Disko has torn his muscle and Adam Sidlow will be going for an x-ray but it could be a broken leg – we’ll just have to see.”

The long-term absence of Diskin and Sidlow would represent another massive setback to Cummins’ small squad, which is already without Dale Ferguson (back) and Lee Gaskell (knee) for several more weeks.

The club’s ownership saga is continuing to drag on and Cummins said: “We’ve been here before but I’m not fretting over it as things don’t happen straight away.

“It’d be nice to have had it sorted within a week but that’s not the way it happens.”

Bringing in new players is critical if the Bulls are to beat the drop from Super League at the end of the season.

“I’m probably playing fantasy football because I don’t know if I can bring anyone in,” said Cummins.

“All I can do is concentrate on those boys. The change of ownership just needs to happen as it keeps going on and on.

“Hopefully it will be done soon and we can look to a brighter future.”

Cummins paid tribute to the character of his players and in particular their much-improved goal-line defence.

“We came up with errors with the ball in tough conditions but I can’t get past how hard they really worked for each other,” he said.

“With the amount of possession and field position Hull KR had, you are probably looking at it being a bigger score.

“But we’ve come up with some great try-saving tackles and held them up over the line too. We’ve got the desire and work ethic, we just have to play the conditions a bit.

“Adam O’Brien did a great job – and needs too as Disko will be out for a while. James Donaldson was outstanding again and that was the best Brett Kearney had played this year.

“I’m really glad for him as, by his own admission, he has been a little bit out of sorts. It was great to have Matty Blythe back too.”

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8:32am Mon 24 Mar 14

pww of idle says...

All this dragging on with new ownership of the Bulls is part of the RLF's plan to ensure neither London or France are relegated from Super League & the very unfortunate situ. re further Bulls injuries , with only LOAN players becoming available , is fitting in nicely with Redhall's secretive plans. Don't be surprised if relegation/promotion is suddenly squashed after this year , once London & the Catalans are safe in a reduced Super League !!!!!!!!!!
All this dragging on with new ownership of the Bulls is part of the RLF's plan to ensure neither London or France are relegated from Super League & the very unfortunate situ. re further Bulls injuries , with only LOAN players becoming available , is fitting in nicely with Redhall's secretive plans. Don't be surprised if relegation/promotion is suddenly squashed after this year , once London & the Catalans are safe in a reduced Super League !!!!!!!!!! pww of idle
  • Score: -6

8:40am Mon 24 Mar 14

Nick Harrison says...

I am a huge fan of Cummins. I admire his commitment and positivity. What he has achieved in the adversity that he has had to cope with. This is now cruel. Men are putting thier bodies on the line. They play arguably the most physical contact team sport in the world. Because of the situation they are risking their carreers by playing with the passion that they are. The RFL, Administrators and all involved need to pull their fingers out and get this sorted, either for the good or the bad. Forget the supporters, true fans will follow the club no matter which division we play in, lets remember this is peoples livelyhoods and lives. It is simply not right for those in a small squad to be expected to risk their bodies the way they are whilst outsiders stare at a balance sheet. Time to draw a line
I am a huge fan of Cummins. I admire his commitment and positivity. What he has achieved in the adversity that he has had to cope with. This is now cruel. Men are putting thier bodies on the line. They play arguably the most physical contact team sport in the world. Because of the situation they are risking their carreers by playing with the passion that they are. The RFL, Administrators and all involved need to pull their fingers out and get this sorted, either for the good or the bad. Forget the supporters, true fans will follow the club no matter which division we play in, lets remember this is peoples livelyhoods and lives. It is simply not right for those in a small squad to be expected to risk their bodies the way they are whilst outsiders stare at a balance sheet. Time to draw a line Nick Harrison
  • Score: 28

9:02am Mon 24 Mar 14

axelf1963 says...

It was the RFL s fault they got injured.
It was the RFL s fault they got injured. axelf1963
  • Score: -21

9:03am Mon 24 Mar 14

northern pig says...

Looking at it in retrospect, the six point deduction all but ended our chance of survival,without the loss of further players through injury to an already depleted squad.I fear the worst but i would walk through fire to watch the Bulls what ever division they play in
Looking at it in retrospect, the six point deduction all but ended our chance of survival,without the loss of further players through injury to an already depleted squad.I fear the worst but i would walk through fire to watch the Bulls what ever division they play in northern pig
  • Score: 24

9:05am Mon 24 Mar 14

Van Bellen's Baby says...

Nick Harrison wrote:
I am a huge fan of Cummins. I admire his commitment and positivity. What he has achieved in the adversity that he has had to cope with. This is now cruel. Men are putting thier bodies on the line. They play arguably the most physical contact team sport in the world. Because of the situation they are risking their carreers by playing with the passion that they are. The RFL, Administrators and all involved need to pull their fingers out and get this sorted, either for the good or the bad. Forget the supporters, true fans will follow the club no matter which division we play in, lets remember this is peoples livelyhoods and lives. It is simply not right for those in a small squad to be expected to risk their bodies the way they are whilst outsiders stare at a balance sheet. Time to draw a line
I agree with the sentiment but the implications of some of what you are prepared to accept will have a long-lasting impact. Relegation will be incredibly diffficult to come back from, not least because even if we do it on the pitch we probably won't meet the (increasingly arbitrary) RFL membership criteria and may be under a cloud for years to come. In addition to that is the real possibility that the RFL may once again shut the door on promotion/relegation
. The other implication of your posting is that to avoid injury the coach should throw in the towel and cruise the remaining fixtures, but that would have a devastating effect on the hard core following you suggest would follow the club whatever league they are in. If they went down fighting this year the hardcore would remain with a righteous determination (if I can put it that way), but anything less and the hardcore will be smaller than it might have been and that weakens any re-bound momentum. In truth we must avoid relegation at all costs!
[quote][p][bold]Nick Harrison[/bold] wrote: I am a huge fan of Cummins. I admire his commitment and positivity. What he has achieved in the adversity that he has had to cope with. This is now cruel. Men are putting thier bodies on the line. They play arguably the most physical contact team sport in the world. Because of the situation they are risking their carreers by playing with the passion that they are. The RFL, Administrators and all involved need to pull their fingers out and get this sorted, either for the good or the bad. Forget the supporters, true fans will follow the club no matter which division we play in, lets remember this is peoples livelyhoods and lives. It is simply not right for those in a small squad to be expected to risk their bodies the way they are whilst outsiders stare at a balance sheet. Time to draw a line[/p][/quote]I agree with the sentiment but the implications of some of what you are prepared to accept will have a long-lasting impact. Relegation will be incredibly diffficult to come back from, not least because even if we do it on the pitch we probably won't meet the (increasingly arbitrary) RFL membership criteria and may be under a cloud for years to come. In addition to that is the real possibility that the RFL may once again shut the door on promotion/relegation . The other implication of your posting is that to avoid injury the coach should throw in the towel and cruise the remaining fixtures, but that would have a devastating effect on the hard core following you suggest would follow the club whatever league they are in. If they went down fighting this year the hardcore would remain with a righteous determination (if I can put it that way), but anything less and the hardcore will be smaller than it might have been and that weakens any re-bound momentum. In truth we must avoid relegation at all costs! Van Bellen's Baby
  • Score: 6

9:07am Mon 24 Mar 14

alice fletcher says...

if it wasnt for bad luck we wouldnt have any at all .get it sorted now .
if it wasnt for bad luck we wouldnt have any at all .get it sorted now . alice fletcher
  • Score: 11

9:17am Mon 24 Mar 14

spanglishbull.uk says...

Axelf,
You simply are an imbecile.These players are married men with wives and children to support.You obviously have not.It is time you stopped posting your inane drivel and showed a bit of respect to these guys that go out on to the field to play this toughest of sports.Once again something you have never done,you would not have the guts to play any sport nor would you have the guts to face any of these players and say what you think of them to their faces.You are just a yellow bellied sewer rat that needs poisoning.I pity you,you poor pathetic excuse for a human being.
Axelf, You simply are an imbecile.These players are married men with wives and children to support.You obviously have not.It is time you stopped posting your inane drivel and showed a bit of respect to these guys that go out on to the field to play this toughest of sports.Once again something you have never done,you would not have the guts to play any sport nor would you have the guts to face any of these players and say what you think of them to their faces.You are just a yellow bellied sewer rat that needs poisoning.I pity you,you poor pathetic excuse for a human being. spanglishbull.uk
  • Score: 9

9:23am Mon 24 Mar 14

bully4us says...

Don't blame Alex. Blame the owners of this site who don't bother to moderate it. The owners should be responsible for the crap THEY allow on THEIR site.
Don't blame Alex. Blame the owners of this site who don't bother to moderate it. The owners should be responsible for the crap THEY allow on THEIR site. bully4us
  • Score: 17

10:09am Mon 24 Mar 14

axelf1963 says...

Looks like spangled boy has got out the wrong side of bed. My comment about it been rugby league fault is just carrying on from the pathetic lines you normally come up with.
Look in the mirror and ask yourself this , who's fault is it really ?
Looks like spangled boy has got out the wrong side of bed. My comment about it been rugby league fault is just carrying on from the pathetic lines you normally come up with. Look in the mirror and ask yourself this , who's fault is it really ? axelf1963
  • Score: -13

10:14am Mon 24 Mar 14

bullybullman says...

The bottom line is we have to get the ownership sorted at the club so we can start to recruit players. We will be lucky to pick up another 4 points all season with the squad we have. Stu Duffy had a major rant on Face book yesterday about moaning fans but Bulls supporters are paying Super league prices to watch a Championship side so I think a lot of fans have a right to feel disgruntled at the current situation.

Credit to the players who remain they are working their balls off but we simply do not have enough players to fill positions.
The bottom line is we have to get the ownership sorted at the club so we can start to recruit players. We will be lucky to pick up another 4 points all season with the squad we have. Stu Duffy had a major rant on Face book yesterday about moaning fans but Bulls supporters are paying Super league prices to watch a Championship side so I think a lot of fans have a right to feel disgruntled at the current situation. Credit to the players who remain they are working their balls off but we simply do not have enough players to fill positions. bullybullman
  • Score: 7

10:46am Mon 24 Mar 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

The only luck Bradford get it bad luck.
The injuries happen to their biggest players, not the fringe players the core of the team and they seem to be racking up at the rate of one per match. Come June there will be no one left.
Regarding the delays regarding the takeover, this is going to be an unliked post but I have sympathy with the RFL in all this.
They helped out when Hood was in charge to keep the Bulls going but it bit them almost straight away with the club nearly going bust during the season and failing to furfil it's fixtures.
Then after an admin they though they had two people in Khan and Sutcliffe who had the funds and the methods to take the club forward but all they got was empty promises. We can opperate on half sky monies if you let us in the Super League, was shortly followed by Sutcliffe taking to the papers to beg Akbars for cash. Then a winding up order from HMRC put down to an admin mistake, then admin error was blamed for late payment of wages, then a takeover was announced to find out Khan still owned the shares. The list goes on.
It seems all goodwill has been lost and the RFL are having to really cross all the T's and dot all the I's on this one after what has happened in the past.
I'm not saying the RFL aren't blameless but I am saying they get more than their share of the blame on here who really should be pointing figures closer to home.
So now we have Lamb possibly taking over, with a group of property developers. Wanting to take over the Bulls and a piece of land right off the motorway, the term property developers strikes the fear of god into me hearing this. Call me cynical but I can see Bulls playing at cougar park in the championship with a big warehouse and delivery center being built up at Odsal with the RFL not bothered as they have their money back, and Bradford council rolling over with the promise of business rates and a lump sum of cash. Some their would sell their grandma for an envelope of cash.
Time will tell but I strugle to see a positive at this time, I really do.
The only luck Bradford get it bad luck. The injuries happen to their biggest players, not the fringe players the core of the team and they seem to be racking up at the rate of one per match. Come June there will be no one left. Regarding the delays regarding the takeover, this is going to be an unliked post but I have sympathy with the RFL in all this. They helped out when Hood was in charge to keep the Bulls going but it bit them almost straight away with the club nearly going bust during the season and failing to furfil it's fixtures. Then after an admin they though they had two people in Khan and Sutcliffe who had the funds and the methods to take the club forward but all they got was empty promises. We can opperate on half sky monies if you let us in the Super League, was shortly followed by Sutcliffe taking to the papers to beg Akbars for cash. Then a winding up order from HMRC put down to an admin mistake, then admin error was blamed for late payment of wages, then a takeover was announced to find out Khan still owned the shares. The list goes on. It seems all goodwill has been lost and the RFL are having to really cross all the T's and dot all the I's on this one after what has happened in the past. I'm not saying the RFL aren't blameless but I am saying they get more than their share of the blame on here who really should be pointing figures closer to home. So now we have Lamb possibly taking over, with a group of property developers. Wanting to take over the Bulls and a piece of land right off the motorway, the term property developers strikes the fear of god into me hearing this. Call me cynical but I can see Bulls playing at cougar park in the championship with a big warehouse and delivery center being built up at Odsal with the RFL not bothered as they have their money back, and Bradford council rolling over with the promise of business rates and a lump sum of cash. Some their would sell their grandma for an envelope of cash. Time will tell but I strugle to see a positive at this time, I really do. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 7

10:47am Mon 24 Mar 14

flashdonut says...

axelf1963 wrote:
Looks like spangled boy has got out the wrong side of bed. My comment about it been rugby league fault is just carrying on from the pathetic lines you normally come up with.
Look in the mirror and ask yourself this , who's fault is it really ?
Not mine. Why, what was the point in that?
[quote][p][bold]axelf1963[/bold] wrote: Looks like spangled boy has got out the wrong side of bed. My comment about it been rugby league fault is just carrying on from the pathetic lines you normally come up with. Look in the mirror and ask yourself this , who's fault is it really ?[/p][/quote]Not mine. Why, what was the point in that? flashdonut
  • Score: 3

11:10am Mon 24 Mar 14

side of beef says...

axelf1963 wrote:
Looks like spangled boy has got out the wrong side of bed. My comment about it been rugby league fault is just carrying on from the pathetic lines you normally come up with.
Look in the mirror and ask yourself this , who's fault is it really ?
Do yuo think a financial penalty is than a good idea for club that's skint and is not in the rules you prat
[quote][p][bold]axelf1963[/bold] wrote: Looks like spangled boy has got out the wrong side of bed. My comment about it been rugby league fault is just carrying on from the pathetic lines you normally come up with. Look in the mirror and ask yourself this , who's fault is it really ?[/p][/quote]Do yuo think a financial penalty is than a good idea for club that's skint and is not in the rules you prat side of beef
  • Score: 2

11:11am Mon 24 Mar 14

axelf1963 says...

Why blame the rugby league. If it was not for Nigel wood and co you would be gone already. Only 2 out of the 5 bids been classed as credible
Why blame the rugby league. If it was not for Nigel wood and co you would be gone already. Only 2 out of the 5 bids been classed as credible axelf1963
  • Score: -2

11:11am Mon 24 Mar 14

tinytoonster says...

pww of idle wrote:
All this dragging on with new ownership of the Bulls is part of the RLF's plan to ensure neither London or France are relegated from Super League & the very unfortunate situ. re further Bulls injuries , with only LOAN players becoming available , is fitting in nicely with Redhall's secretive plans. Don't be surprised if relegation/promotion is suddenly squashed after this year , once London & the Catalans are safe in a reduced Super League !!!!!!!!!!
what a load of rubbish.
they got injured, thats just bad luck.
the ownership issue is down to debt and who caused that?
not the RFL.
[quote][p][bold]pww of idle[/bold] wrote: All this dragging on with new ownership of the Bulls is part of the RLF's plan to ensure neither London or France are relegated from Super League & the very unfortunate situ. re further Bulls injuries , with only LOAN players becoming available , is fitting in nicely with Redhall's secretive plans. Don't be surprised if relegation/promotion is suddenly squashed after this year , once London & the Catalans are safe in a reduced Super League !!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]what a load of rubbish. they got injured, thats just bad luck. the ownership issue is down to debt and who caused that? not the RFL. tinytoonster
  • Score: 0

11:17am Mon 24 Mar 14

tinytoonster says...

spanglishbull.uk wrote:
Axelf,
You simply are an imbecile.These players are married men with wives and children to support.You obviously have not.It is time you stopped posting your inane drivel and showed a bit of respect to these guys that go out on to the field to play this toughest of sports.Once again something you have never done,you would not have the guts to play any sport nor would you have the guts to face any of these players and say what you think of them to their faces.You are just a yellow bellied sewer rat that needs poisoning.I pity you,you poor pathetic excuse for a human being.
i think he was being sarcastic.
the 1st comment tries to blame it all on RFL so he was trying to make a joke about it.
your comment is just nasty and should be removed.
[quote][p][bold]spanglishbull.uk[/bold] wrote: Axelf, You simply are an imbecile.These players are married men with wives and children to support.You obviously have not.It is time you stopped posting your inane drivel and showed a bit of respect to these guys that go out on to the field to play this toughest of sports.Once again something you have never done,you would not have the guts to play any sport nor would you have the guts to face any of these players and say what you think of them to their faces.You are just a yellow bellied sewer rat that needs poisoning.I pity you,you poor pathetic excuse for a human being.[/p][/quote]i think he was being sarcastic. the 1st comment tries to blame it all on RFL so he was trying to make a joke about it. your comment is just nasty and should be removed. tinytoonster
  • Score: -6

12:02pm Mon 24 Mar 14

axelf1963 says...

Thank you
Thank you axelf1963
  • Score: -9

12:24pm Mon 24 Mar 14

nosher says...

spanglishbull.uk wrote:
Axelf,
You simply are an imbecile.These players are married men with wives and children to support.You obviously have not.It is time you stopped posting your inane drivel and showed a bit of respect to these guys that go out on to the field to play this toughest of sports.Once again something you have never done,you would not have the guts to play any sport nor would you have the guts to face any of these players and say what you think of them to their faces.You are just a yellow bellied sewer rat that needs poisoning.I pity you,you poor pathetic excuse for a human being.
Calm down old spangly. Go lay down in the sunshine. He is casting his bait and reeling you in lol.
[quote][p][bold]spanglishbull.uk[/bold] wrote: Axelf, You simply are an imbecile.These players are married men with wives and children to support.You obviously have not.It is time you stopped posting your inane drivel and showed a bit of respect to these guys that go out on to the field to play this toughest of sports.Once again something you have never done,you would not have the guts to play any sport nor would you have the guts to face any of these players and say what you think of them to their faces.You are just a yellow bellied sewer rat that needs poisoning.I pity you,you poor pathetic excuse for a human being.[/p][/quote]Calm down old spangly. Go lay down in the sunshine. He is casting his bait and reeling you in lol. nosher
  • Score: -1

12:57pm Mon 24 Mar 14

axelf1963 says...

He is one of vikings hench men nosher so never likes what I put.
He is one of vikings hench men nosher so never likes what I put. axelf1963
  • Score: -8

1:16pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Bone_idle18 says...

axelf1963 wrote:
It was the RFL s fault they got injured.
Are you sure your birth date isn't 2003?
[quote][p][bold]axelf1963[/bold] wrote: It was the RFL s fault they got injured.[/p][/quote]Are you sure your birth date isn't 2003? Bone_idle18
  • Score: 4

2:37pm Mon 24 Mar 14

portugalbull says...

Trying for positive comment, if its money guarantee RFL are looking for why doesn't Mr Lamb speak to Mandy and formulate joint bid.
Trying for positive comment, if its money guarantee RFL are looking for why doesn't Mr Lamb speak to Mandy and formulate joint bid. portugalbull
  • Score: 5

2:43pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

portugalbull wrote:
Trying for positive comment, if its money guarantee RFL are looking for why doesn't Mr Lamb speak to Mandy and formulate joint bid.
Why would Mandy want to run the club with someone who doesn't have the money? Why is Lamb even bidding if he can't prove he has the money to run the club? He at this stage is only stalling any takeover with people who have the money to put this mess right.
If he has the money, prove it. If he doesn't step aside and stop wasting everyones time so that someone with the money can step in. We don't want a Khan Mk2 taking over the club to see the Bulls in the same mess come October.
[quote][p][bold]portugalbull[/bold] wrote: Trying for positive comment, if its money guarantee RFL are looking for why doesn't Mr Lamb speak to Mandy and formulate joint bid.[/p][/quote]Why would Mandy want to run the club with someone who doesn't have the money? Why is Lamb even bidding if he can't prove he has the money to run the club? He at this stage is only stalling any takeover with people who have the money to put this mess right. If he has the money, prove it. If he doesn't step aside and stop wasting everyones time so that someone with the money can step in. We don't want a Khan Mk2 taking over the club to see the Bulls in the same mess come October. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 4

2:44pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Sad bull says...

portugalbull wrote:
Trying for positive comment, if its money guarantee RFL are looking for why doesn't Mr Lamb speak to Mandy and formulate joint bid.
Mandy and Moore and Co would be a better bet. At least they are Bulls fans and did make a serious attempt to sort out Kahn's mess with some degree of success. True they lacked the kind of financial resources needed but showed a lot of common business sense over a period of time, brining in a number of new sponsors and ideas. Very uncomfortable with the Lamb bid and always have been.
[quote][p][bold]portugalbull[/bold] wrote: Trying for positive comment, if its money guarantee RFL are looking for why doesn't Mr Lamb speak to Mandy and formulate joint bid.[/p][/quote]Mandy and Moore and Co would be a better bet. At least they are Bulls fans and did make a serious attempt to sort out Kahn's mess with some degree of success. True they lacked the kind of financial resources needed but showed a lot of common business sense over a period of time, brining in a number of new sponsors and ideas. Very uncomfortable with the Lamb bid and always have been. Sad bull
  • Score: 3

3:11pm Mon 24 Mar 14

spanglishbull.uk says...

Anybody know if the RFL has actually announced that Mr.Lambs bid is actually rejected as not suitable.
Anybody know if the RFL has actually announced that Mr.Lambs bid is actually rejected as not suitable. spanglishbull.uk
  • Score: 1

3:18pm Mon 24 Mar 14

axelf1963 says...

Like I said before only two bids have any merit. You work out which two they are.
Like I said before only two bids have any merit. You work out which two they are. axelf1963
  • Score: -7

3:26pm Mon 24 Mar 14

NG1972 says...

Another day & still no announcement. This is truly unbelievable. I don't clearly understand how it takes so long when there is a multi millionaire awaiting in the wings to take over what more do they want. The RFL clearly want us demoted out of SL. Mrs K is the person to take over so why don't they just stop keeping us all waiting how long does it take for them to do finance checks on Mr Lamb. What we have to remember is that the administrator accepted Moore's bid & look where we are now. This is a no brainer for me. We have no players just let us struggle even more...
Another day & still no announcement. This is truly unbelievable. I don't clearly understand how it takes so long when there is a multi millionaire awaiting in the wings to take over what more do they want. The RFL clearly want us demoted out of SL. Mrs K is the person to take over so why don't they just stop keeping us all waiting how long does it take for them to do finance checks on Mr Lamb. What we have to remember is that the administrator accepted Moore's bid & look where we are now. This is a no brainer for me. We have no players just let us struggle even more... NG1972
  • Score: 5

3:27pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Sad bull wrote:
portugalbull wrote: Trying for positive comment, if its money guarantee RFL are looking for why doesn't Mr Lamb speak to Mandy and formulate joint bid.
Mandy and Moore and Co would be a better bet. At least they are Bulls fans and did make a serious attempt to sort out Kahn's mess with some degree of success. True they lacked the kind of financial resources needed but showed a lot of common business sense over a period of time, brining in a number of new sponsors and ideas. Very uncomfortable with the Lamb bid and always have been.
Mandy alone is the best bet.

Why have people clinging on like last time with Sutcliffe and Whitcut putting no money in?

The Dr, I mean Mandy would no doubt have her own team to run the club in a similar way Salford have but with the Bulls the potential is far greater.
[quote][p][bold]Sad bull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]portugalbull[/bold] wrote: Trying for positive comment, if its money guarantee RFL are looking for why doesn't Mr Lamb speak to Mandy and formulate joint bid.[/p][/quote]Mandy and Moore and Co would be a better bet. At least they are Bulls fans and did make a serious attempt to sort out Kahn's mess with some degree of success. True they lacked the kind of financial resources needed but showed a lot of common business sense over a period of time, brining in a number of new sponsors and ideas. Very uncomfortable with the Lamb bid and always have been.[/p][/quote]Mandy alone is the best bet. Why have people clinging on like last time with Sutcliffe and Whitcut putting no money in? The Dr, I mean Mandy would no doubt have her own team to run the club in a similar way Salford have but with the Bulls the potential is far greater. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 4

3:35pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Arhmen Noleg says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
The only luck Bradford get it bad luck.
The injuries happen to their biggest players, not the fringe players the core of the team and they seem to be racking up at the rate of one per match. Come June there will be no one left.
Regarding the delays regarding the takeover, this is going to be an unliked post but I have sympathy with the RFL in all this.
They helped out when Hood was in charge to keep the Bulls going but it bit them almost straight away with the club nearly going bust during the season and failing to furfil it's fixtures.
Then after an admin they though they had two people in Khan and Sutcliffe who had the funds and the methods to take the club forward but all they got was empty promises. We can opperate on half sky monies if you let us in the Super League, was shortly followed by Sutcliffe taking to the papers to beg Akbars for cash. Then a winding up order from HMRC put down to an admin mistake, then admin error was blamed for late payment of wages, then a takeover was announced to find out Khan still owned the shares. The list goes on.
It seems all goodwill has been lost and the RFL are having to really cross all the T's and dot all the I's on this one after what has happened in the past.
I'm not saying the RFL aren't blameless but I am saying they get more than their share of the blame on here who really should be pointing figures closer to home.
So now we have Lamb possibly taking over, with a group of property developers. Wanting to take over the Bulls and a piece of land right off the motorway, the term property developers strikes the fear of god into me hearing this. Call me cynical but I can see Bulls playing at cougar park in the championship with a big warehouse and delivery center being built up at Odsal with the RFL not bothered as they have their money back, and Bradford council rolling over with the promise of business rates and a lump sum of cash. Some their would sell their grandma for an envelope of cash.
Time will tell but I strugle to see a positive at this time, I really do.
I would not object to a delivery centre if Bradford got a stadium fit for purpose as part of the change.

Remember City are beholden to the Flamingo Land Pension Fund having in similar circumstances being forced to part with VP.

The rent down there is nearer £400k than the £72k for Odsal.

So how would ground sharing benefit the Bulls?
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: The only luck Bradford get it bad luck. The injuries happen to their biggest players, not the fringe players the core of the team and they seem to be racking up at the rate of one per match. Come June there will be no one left. Regarding the delays regarding the takeover, this is going to be an unliked post but I have sympathy with the RFL in all this. They helped out when Hood was in charge to keep the Bulls going but it bit them almost straight away with the club nearly going bust during the season and failing to furfil it's fixtures. Then after an admin they though they had two people in Khan and Sutcliffe who had the funds and the methods to take the club forward but all they got was empty promises. We can opperate on half sky monies if you let us in the Super League, was shortly followed by Sutcliffe taking to the papers to beg Akbars for cash. Then a winding up order from HMRC put down to an admin mistake, then admin error was blamed for late payment of wages, then a takeover was announced to find out Khan still owned the shares. The list goes on. It seems all goodwill has been lost and the RFL are having to really cross all the T's and dot all the I's on this one after what has happened in the past. I'm not saying the RFL aren't blameless but I am saying they get more than their share of the blame on here who really should be pointing figures closer to home. So now we have Lamb possibly taking over, with a group of property developers. Wanting to take over the Bulls and a piece of land right off the motorway, the term property developers strikes the fear of god into me hearing this. Call me cynical but I can see Bulls playing at cougar park in the championship with a big warehouse and delivery center being built up at Odsal with the RFL not bothered as they have their money back, and Bradford council rolling over with the promise of business rates and a lump sum of cash. Some their would sell their grandma for an envelope of cash. Time will tell but I strugle to see a positive at this time, I really do.[/p][/quote]I would not object to a delivery centre if Bradford got a stadium fit for purpose as part of the change. Remember City are beholden to the Flamingo Land Pension Fund having in similar circumstances being forced to part with VP. The rent down there is nearer £400k than the £72k for Odsal. So how would ground sharing benefit the Bulls? Arhmen Noleg
  • Score: 2

3:48pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Sad bull says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Sad bull wrote:
portugalbull wrote: Trying for positive comment, if its money guarantee RFL are looking for why doesn't Mr Lamb speak to Mandy and formulate joint bid.
Mandy and Moore and Co would be a better bet. At least they are Bulls fans and did make a serious attempt to sort out Kahn's mess with some degree of success. True they lacked the kind of financial resources needed but showed a lot of common business sense over a period of time, brining in a number of new sponsors and ideas. Very uncomfortable with the Lamb bid and always have been.
Mandy alone is the best bet.

Why have people clinging on like last time with Sutcliffe and Whitcut putting no money in?

The Dr, I mean Mandy would no doubt have her own team to run the club in a similar way Salford have but with the Bulls the potential is far greater.
In an ideal world and with sensible people at the RFL you are of course right, but it isn't and they aren't.

The only way I see Mandy involved at the Bulls is as part of a consortium and one made up of true Bulls fans plus Mandy is far preferable to Lamb and a bunch of London property developers.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sad bull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]portugalbull[/bold] wrote: Trying for positive comment, if its money guarantee RFL are looking for why doesn't Mr Lamb speak to Mandy and formulate joint bid.[/p][/quote]Mandy and Moore and Co would be a better bet. At least they are Bulls fans and did make a serious attempt to sort out Kahn's mess with some degree of success. True they lacked the kind of financial resources needed but showed a lot of common business sense over a period of time, brining in a number of new sponsors and ideas. Very uncomfortable with the Lamb bid and always have been.[/p][/quote]Mandy alone is the best bet. Why have people clinging on like last time with Sutcliffe and Whitcut putting no money in? The Dr, I mean Mandy would no doubt have her own team to run the club in a similar way Salford have but with the Bulls the potential is far greater.[/p][/quote]In an ideal world and with sensible people at the RFL you are of course right, but it isn't and they aren't. The only way I see Mandy involved at the Bulls is as part of a consortium and one made up of true Bulls fans plus Mandy is far preferable to Lamb and a bunch of London property developers. Sad bull
  • Score: 4

4:00pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Arhmen Noleg wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote: The only luck Bradford get it bad luck. The injuries happen to their biggest players, not the fringe players the core of the team and they seem to be racking up at the rate of one per match. Come June there will be no one left. Regarding the delays regarding the takeover, this is going to be an unliked post but I have sympathy with the RFL in all this. They helped out when Hood was in charge to keep the Bulls going but it bit them almost straight away with the club nearly going bust during the season and failing to furfil it's fixtures. Then after an admin they though they had two people in Khan and Sutcliffe who had the funds and the methods to take the club forward but all they got was empty promises. We can opperate on half sky monies if you let us in the Super League, was shortly followed by Sutcliffe taking to the papers to beg Akbars for cash. Then a winding up order from HMRC put down to an admin mistake, then admin error was blamed for late payment of wages, then a takeover was announced to find out Khan still owned the shares. The list goes on. It seems all goodwill has been lost and the RFL are having to really cross all the T's and dot all the I's on this one after what has happened in the past. I'm not saying the RFL aren't blameless but I am saying they get more than their share of the blame on here who really should be pointing figures closer to home. So now we have Lamb possibly taking over, with a group of property developers. Wanting to take over the Bulls and a piece of land right off the motorway, the term property developers strikes the fear of god into me hearing this. Call me cynical but I can see Bulls playing at cougar park in the championship with a big warehouse and delivery center being built up at Odsal with the RFL not bothered as they have their money back, and Bradford council rolling over with the promise of business rates and a lump sum of cash. Some their would sell their grandma for an envelope of cash. Time will tell but I strugle to see a positive at this time, I really do.
I would not object to a delivery centre if Bradford got a stadium fit for purpose as part of the change. Remember City are beholden to the Flamingo Land Pension Fund having in similar circumstances being forced to part with VP. The rent down there is nearer £400k than the £72k for Odsal. So how would ground sharing benefit the Bulls?
I said Cougar Park, not Valley Parade.

With regards to Valley Parade, the rent is higher yet but what about the rates. the maintenance, insurance, electric, gas, etc, etc that at present is being paid for twice. Only when you have both total costs for the premises can you make an informed decision to whether one it is better to combine the two.

When I was last up at Odsal it looked very dated as if no money has been put into it for a long time.
[quote][p][bold]Arhmen Noleg[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: The only luck Bradford get it bad luck. The injuries happen to their biggest players, not the fringe players the core of the team and they seem to be racking up at the rate of one per match. Come June there will be no one left. Regarding the delays regarding the takeover, this is going to be an unliked post but I have sympathy with the RFL in all this. They helped out when Hood was in charge to keep the Bulls going but it bit them almost straight away with the club nearly going bust during the season and failing to furfil it's fixtures. Then after an admin they though they had two people in Khan and Sutcliffe who had the funds and the methods to take the club forward but all they got was empty promises. We can opperate on half sky monies if you let us in the Super League, was shortly followed by Sutcliffe taking to the papers to beg Akbars for cash. Then a winding up order from HMRC put down to an admin mistake, then admin error was blamed for late payment of wages, then a takeover was announced to find out Khan still owned the shares. The list goes on. It seems all goodwill has been lost and the RFL are having to really cross all the T's and dot all the I's on this one after what has happened in the past. I'm not saying the RFL aren't blameless but I am saying they get more than their share of the blame on here who really should be pointing figures closer to home. So now we have Lamb possibly taking over, with a group of property developers. Wanting to take over the Bulls and a piece of land right off the motorway, the term property developers strikes the fear of god into me hearing this. Call me cynical but I can see Bulls playing at cougar park in the championship with a big warehouse and delivery center being built up at Odsal with the RFL not bothered as they have their money back, and Bradford council rolling over with the promise of business rates and a lump sum of cash. Some their would sell their grandma for an envelope of cash. Time will tell but I strugle to see a positive at this time, I really do.[/p][/quote]I would not object to a delivery centre if Bradford got a stadium fit for purpose as part of the change. Remember City are beholden to the Flamingo Land Pension Fund having in similar circumstances being forced to part with VP. The rent down there is nearer £400k than the £72k for Odsal. So how would ground sharing benefit the Bulls?[/p][/quote]I said Cougar Park, not Valley Parade. With regards to Valley Parade, the rent is higher yet but what about the rates. the maintenance, insurance, electric, gas, etc, etc that at present is being paid for twice. Only when you have both total costs for the premises can you make an informed decision to whether one it is better to combine the two. When I was last up at Odsal it looked very dated as if no money has been put into it for a long time. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 1

4:03pm Mon 24 Mar 14

spanglishbull.uk says...

There will be no London Property Developers willing to invest up north.They will never of heard of the place.In their minds the North is Watford.What they actually be investing in.Certainly no money to be made in RL.No chance of building on a tip for years and years if they actually got planning permission from the Bradford Council.It would take them 10 years to make a decision.
There will be no London Property Developers willing to invest up north.They will never of heard of the place.In their minds the North is Watford.What they actually be investing in.Certainly no money to be made in RL.No chance of building on a tip for years and years if they actually got planning permission from the Bradford Council.It would take them 10 years to make a decision. spanglishbull.uk
  • Score: 6

4:12pm Mon 24 Mar 14

bartsbull says...

Whatever happens this needs sorting out MRSMK would be the fans choice
only the administrator knows why her bid was not the wining one

But we all keep being told there will be an announcement but nothing forcoming ABI was supposed to be involved no statement from him

This is becoming a farse not only for the club the game the fans players and staff we all need to know this week rumours are rife but good confirmed news is not
Please give the club the news we all want to hear before the weekend and at least the players will be going into a game on he back of it without more uncertanty COYB
Whatever happens this needs sorting out MRSMK would be the fans choice only the administrator knows why her bid was not the wining one But we all keep being told there will be an announcement but nothing forcoming ABI was supposed to be involved no statement from him This is becoming a farse not only for the club the game the fans players and staff we all need to know this week rumours are rife but good confirmed news is not Please give the club the news we all want to hear before the weekend and at least the players will be going into a game on he back of it without more uncertanty COYB bartsbull
  • Score: 3

4:53pm Mon 24 Mar 14

axelf1963 says...

Just go into the championship it will solve lots of issues.
Just go into the championship it will solve lots of issues. axelf1963
  • Score: -2

5:19pm Mon 24 Mar 14

pww of idle says...

To try & think in a logical way is a complete waste of time etc., as one has to take into account both the Administrator and the brain-dead at Redhall. As such , when the Bulls & A N Other are relegated at the end of 2014 BUT London & the Catalans still safe in Super League , don't be at all surprised if the Relegation/Promotion aspects re. SL are suddenly withdrawn. Maybe the Championship will be better for the Bulls , as no stabbing-in-the-back politics seems to be evident there ?!!!!!!!!
To try & think in a logical way is a complete waste of time etc., as one has to take into account both the Administrator and the brain-dead at Redhall. As such , when the Bulls & A N Other are relegated at the end of 2014 BUT London & the Catalans still safe in Super League , don't be at all surprised if the Relegation/Promotion aspects re. SL are suddenly withdrawn. Maybe the Championship will be better for the Bulls , as no stabbing-in-the-back politics seems to be evident there ?!!!!!!!! pww of idle
  • Score: 2

5:59pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

spanglishbull.uk wrote:
There will be no London Property Developers willing to invest up north.They will never of heard of the place.In their minds the North is Watford.What they actually be investing in.Certainly no money to be made in RL.No chance of building on a tip for years and years if they actually got planning permission from the Bradford Council.It would take them 10 years to make a decision.
A few brown envelopes would speed up such a decision.
[quote][p][bold]spanglishbull.uk[/bold] wrote: There will be no London Property Developers willing to invest up north.They will never of heard of the place.In their minds the North is Watford.What they actually be investing in.Certainly no money to be made in RL.No chance of building on a tip for years and years if they actually got planning permission from the Bradford Council.It would take them 10 years to make a decision.[/p][/quote]A few brown envelopes would speed up such a decision. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 1

6:32pm Mon 24 Mar 14

spanglishbull.uk says...

T.V.O.R,
Quite correct re brown envelopes.Here is me thinking councillors were there to look after the City residents.What a fool I am.
T.V.O.R, Quite correct re brown envelopes.Here is me thinking councillors were there to look after the City residents.What a fool I am. spanglishbull.uk
  • Score: 2

7:03pm Mon 24 Mar 14

AUGUST1964 says...

tinytoonster wrote:
pww of idle wrote:
All this dragging on with new ownership of the Bulls is part of the RLF's plan to ensure neither London or France are relegated from Super League & the very unfortunate situ. re further Bulls injuries , with only LOAN players becoming available , is fitting in nicely with Redhall's secretive plans. Don't be surprised if relegation/promotion is suddenly squashed after this year , once London & the Catalans are safe in a reduced Super League !!!!!!!!!!
what a load of rubbish.
they got injured, thats just bad luck.
the ownership issue is down to debt and who caused that?
not the RFL.
No school today then?
[quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pww of idle[/bold] wrote: All this dragging on with new ownership of the Bulls is part of the RLF's plan to ensure neither London or France are relegated from Super League & the very unfortunate situ. re further Bulls injuries , with only LOAN players becoming available , is fitting in nicely with Redhall's secretive plans. Don't be surprised if relegation/promotion is suddenly squashed after this year , once London & the Catalans are safe in a reduced Super League !!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]what a load of rubbish. they got injured, thats just bad luck. the ownership issue is down to debt and who caused that? not the RFL.[/p][/quote]No school today then? AUGUST1964
  • Score: 0

7:12pm Mon 24 Mar 14

jac&zac says...

Lamb should stop his publicity stunt, top wasting peoples time and disappear. The RFL should waken up and see what damage they themselves are doing to the game, swallow their pride and let Mrs Koukash have a go.
Lamb should stop his publicity stunt, top wasting peoples time and disappear. The RFL should waken up and see what damage they themselves are doing to the game, swallow their pride and let Mrs Koukash have a go. jac&zac
  • Score: 3

8:17pm Mon 24 Mar 14

WayneRouke says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
The only luck Bradford get it bad luck.
The injuries happen to their biggest players, not the fringe players the core of the team and they seem to be racking up at the rate of one per match. Come June there will be no one left.
Regarding the delays regarding the takeover, this is going to be an unliked post but I have sympathy with the RFL in all this.
They helped out when Hood was in charge to keep the Bulls going but it bit them almost straight away with the club nearly going bust during the season and failing to furfil it's fixtures.
Then after an admin they though they had two people in Khan and Sutcliffe who had the funds and the methods to take the club forward but all they got was empty promises. We can opperate on half sky monies if you let us in the Super League, was shortly followed by Sutcliffe taking to the papers to beg Akbars for cash. Then a winding up order from HMRC put down to an admin mistake, then admin error was blamed for late payment of wages, then a takeover was announced to find out Khan still owned the shares. The list goes on.
It seems all goodwill has been lost and the RFL are having to really cross all the T's and dot all the I's on this one after what has happened in the past.
I'm not saying the RFL aren't blameless but I am saying they get more than their share of the blame on here who really should be pointing figures closer to home.
So now we have Lamb possibly taking over, with a group of property developers. Wanting to take over the Bulls and a piece of land right off the motorway, the term property developers strikes the fear of god into me hearing this. Call me cynical but I can see Bulls playing at cougar park in the championship with a big warehouse and delivery center being built up at Odsal with the RFL not bothered as they have their money back, and Bradford council rolling over with the promise of business rates and a lump sum of cash. Some their would sell their grandma for an envelope of cash.
Time will tell but I strugle to see a positive at this time, I really do.
Have to agree TVOR has the facts at his disposal. I too do not blame the RFL, nor the core bulls for this debacle.

I personally blame Omar Khan, based on presumtions only and knowing a little about what makes the guy tick. Here is my take:

OK came in under the headline of "Saviour of the Bulls", and him and Sutcliffe rolled in the praise and adulations. However, this was a smokescreen, and Khan, being the type of business man he is, wanted to turn a quick profit. There were very few assets he could sell, so asset stripping was not the answer. But Khan is anything but stupid, and in my view, he obtained a couple of great sponsorship deals (cash in) and secured a couple of Loans against his company, as opposed to against his person(200k here, 250k there, who knows what else??)..

However, IN MY VIEW, khan wanted to hold onto his shares, so that he had control and didnt have to reveal how many loans had been taken, or what had happened to the money. There is also the possibility that there may be a clause in the loans, whereby he is personally responsible in the event of OK Bulls not being able to pay. Consequently, during the shares discussions, he tried to obtain as much as he could for worthless shares, so that he could bolster up his personal funds to cover these loans.

Please remember, a sitting MP was also involved. And if you trust an MP, you are beyond help. You know when an MP is lying, because their lips move. But always nice for a greedy businessman to have one on your side.

The New management found SOMETHING, and didnt want to bail out Khan, so they withdrew their bid.

The silence from Khan and Sutcliffe is deafening. Why is this? Is Khan not proud to be 'saviour' of the Bulls anymore, having taken all the money and left nothing. IN MY OPINION, He revelled in the guise of being the saviour, but behind the scenes, he was skimming and creaming it off, to make money for himself (did he draw a salary, take director loans, dividends etc, all out of the company he set up and owned? -- Any person who owns a company will tell you this is legally possible).

The RFL, somehow, know more than they are letting on regarding the finances, and as such, when new buyers come along, they want to try and make sure the Bulls have a future, in whatever league. The deduction is harsh, but its the rules. So they do their checks, and more checks, and then double check. it all takes time, but in the end, the result SHOULD be good.

But, while all this is going on, current players are in limbo, no more can be recruited, inevitable injuries occur and recovery is made even more difficult.

In My view, the rot started with khan, and the RFL are trying to ensure charlatans the likes of him never get their hands on a rugby club again, I was taken in by Khan, I admit it, so were loads of other fans. But a bit of digging around and asking around reveals a tale

I think his very expensive restaurants should be boycotted by both Rugby and football fans alike,

Meantime, although outside Bradford now, I still follow and get to games when I can. COYB

WR
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: The only luck Bradford get it bad luck. The injuries happen to their biggest players, not the fringe players the core of the team and they seem to be racking up at the rate of one per match. Come June there will be no one left. Regarding the delays regarding the takeover, this is going to be an unliked post but I have sympathy with the RFL in all this. They helped out when Hood was in charge to keep the Bulls going but it bit them almost straight away with the club nearly going bust during the season and failing to furfil it's fixtures. Then after an admin they though they had two people in Khan and Sutcliffe who had the funds and the methods to take the club forward but all they got was empty promises. We can opperate on half sky monies if you let us in the Super League, was shortly followed by Sutcliffe taking to the papers to beg Akbars for cash. Then a winding up order from HMRC put down to an admin mistake, then admin error was blamed for late payment of wages, then a takeover was announced to find out Khan still owned the shares. The list goes on. It seems all goodwill has been lost and the RFL are having to really cross all the T's and dot all the I's on this one after what has happened in the past. I'm not saying the RFL aren't blameless but I am saying they get more than their share of the blame on here who really should be pointing figures closer to home. So now we have Lamb possibly taking over, with a group of property developers. Wanting to take over the Bulls and a piece of land right off the motorway, the term property developers strikes the fear of god into me hearing this. Call me cynical but I can see Bulls playing at cougar park in the championship with a big warehouse and delivery center being built up at Odsal with the RFL not bothered as they have their money back, and Bradford council rolling over with the promise of business rates and a lump sum of cash. Some their would sell their grandma for an envelope of cash. Time will tell but I strugle to see a positive at this time, I really do.[/p][/quote]Have to agree TVOR has the facts at his disposal. I too do not blame the RFL, nor the core bulls for this debacle. I personally blame Omar Khan, based on presumtions only and knowing a little about what makes the guy tick. Here is my take: OK came in under the headline of "Saviour of the Bulls", and him and Sutcliffe rolled in the praise and adulations. However, this was a smokescreen, and Khan, being the type of business man he is, wanted to turn a quick profit. There were very few assets he could sell, so asset stripping was not the answer. But Khan is anything but stupid, and in my view, he obtained a couple of great sponsorship deals (cash in) and secured a couple of Loans against his company, as opposed to against his person(200k here, 250k there, who knows what else??).. However, IN MY VIEW, khan wanted to hold onto his shares, so that he had control and didnt have to reveal how many loans had been taken, or what had happened to the money. There is also the possibility that there may be a clause in the loans, whereby he is personally responsible in the event of OK Bulls not being able to pay. Consequently, during the shares discussions, he tried to obtain as much as he could for worthless shares, so that he could bolster up his personal funds to cover these loans. Please remember, a sitting MP was also involved. And if you trust an MP, you are beyond help. You know when an MP is lying, because their lips move. But always nice for a greedy businessman to have one on your side. The New management found SOMETHING, and didnt want to bail out Khan, so they withdrew their bid. The silence from Khan and Sutcliffe is deafening. Why is this? Is Khan not proud to be 'saviour' of the Bulls anymore, having taken all the money and left nothing. IN MY OPINION, He revelled in the guise of being the saviour, but behind the scenes, he was skimming and creaming it off, to make money for himself (did he draw a salary, take director loans, dividends etc, all out of the company he set up and owned? -- Any person who owns a company will tell you this is legally possible). The RFL, somehow, know more than they are letting on regarding the finances, and as such, when new buyers come along, they want to try and make sure the Bulls have a future, in whatever league. The deduction is harsh, but its the rules. So they do their checks, and more checks, and then double check. it all takes time, but in the end, the result SHOULD be good. But, while all this is going on, current players are in limbo, no more can be recruited, inevitable injuries occur and recovery is made even more difficult. In My view, the rot started with khan, and the RFL are trying to ensure charlatans the likes of him never get their hands on a rugby club again, I was taken in by Khan, I admit it, so were loads of other fans. But a bit of digging around and asking around reveals a tale I think his very expensive restaurants should be boycotted by both Rugby and football fans alike, Meantime, although outside Bradford now, I still follow and get to games when I can. COYB WR WayneRouke
  • Score: 4

8:53pm Mon 24 Mar 14

nosher says...

Just watched sky talk back on sky. Bulls had 6 play the balls in krs 20 metre area. They had over 100 in ours. Phil Clarke said it was the most one sided game he has ever seen. Bring back orford lol
Just watched sky talk back on sky. Bulls had 6 play the balls in krs 20 metre area. They had over 100 in ours. Phil Clarke said it was the most one sided game he has ever seen. Bring back orford lol nosher
  • Score: -2

8:57pm Mon 24 Mar 14

hunsworthbull says...

We were told there would be a decision at the end of last week and then the beginning of this week still no news, I would of thought the administrator would look into whether the best bidder had the funds before any announcement, is just a way to slowly strangle us till we drop dead and wither out of existence. I think the real start of our financial problems was when we signed Rolf Harris, did the rfl look into that to see if we wasn't doing anything wrong no thats why they are not bothered about the Bulls. Hetherington must be still laughing at us cos they didn't want him back
We were told there would be a decision at the end of last week and then the beginning of this week still no news, I would of thought the administrator would look into whether the best bidder had the funds before any announcement, is just a way to slowly strangle us till we drop dead and wither out of existence. I think the real start of our financial problems was when we signed Rolf Harris, did the rfl look into that to see if we wasn't doing anything wrong no thats why they are not bothered about the Bulls. Hetherington must be still laughing at us cos they didn't want him back hunsworthbull
  • Score: -1

9:02pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Theknight says...

All this seems very strange to me, I have it on some authority that , Lamb , has funds ( being a very well off {000,000's} ) sort of guy, and very influential in attracting investors.
So why doesn't anyone approach the good Dr & his wife for investment. Some common sense should prevail here, if the RFL really want to get this right (I have my doubts, but that's another story) then talk to the serious bidders and sort out a satisfactory solution ,NEGOTIATION IS A SOLUTION, Lamb with his business experience , Mrs K with the financial clout. ARE YOU LISTENING RFL GET THIS SORTED NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!
All this seems very strange to me, I have it on some authority that , Lamb , has funds ( being a very well off {000,000's} ) sort of guy, and very influential in attracting investors. So why doesn't anyone approach the good Dr & his wife for investment. Some common sense should prevail here, if the RFL really want to get this right (I have my doubts, but that's another story) then talk to the serious bidders and sort out a satisfactory solution ,NEGOTIATION IS A SOLUTION, Lamb with his business experience , Mrs K with the financial clout. ARE YOU LISTENING RFL GET THIS SORTED NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!! Theknight
  • Score: -1

9:06pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Theknight says...

axelf1963 wrote:
Just go into the championship it will solve lots of issues.
BY THE WAY , WHY DON'T YOU CRAWL BACK UNDER YOUR STONE AND LEAVE THE GROWN UPS TO TALK !! NIGHT NIGHT SONNY
[quote][p][bold]axelf1963[/bold] wrote: Just go into the championship it will solve lots of issues.[/p][/quote]BY THE WAY , WHY DON'T YOU CRAWL BACK UNDER YOUR STONE AND LEAVE THE GROWN UPS TO TALK !! NIGHT NIGHT SONNY Theknight
  • Score: 1

9:45pm Mon 24 Mar 14

jac&zac says...

Do people really believe that the RFL are intelligent enough to come up with a plot to relegate the Bulls. To me Wilson and all the clowns at the RFL appear completely incompetent fools. People must have to tell them when to breathe in and out during the working day!
Do people really believe that the RFL are intelligent enough to come up with a plot to relegate the Bulls. To me Wilson and all the clowns at the RFL appear completely incompetent fools. People must have to tell them when to breathe in and out during the working day! jac&zac
  • Score: 0

9:54pm Mon 24 Mar 14

axelf1963 says...

The rugby league did not over spend. Get over it amateur club run by amateurs
The rugby league did not over spend. Get over it amateur club run by amateurs axelf1963
  • Score: -2

10:08pm Mon 24 Mar 14

bradfordbronco says...

nosher wrote:
Just watched sky talk back on sky. Bulls had 6 play the balls in krs 20 metre area. They had over 100 in ours. Phil Clarke said it was the most one sided game he has ever seen. Bring back orford lol
The fact we only conceded three tries and two of them from kicks speaks volumes for the defensive efforts the lads put in. On attack we were very poor. The few times we got the position we blew it. Other than that our lack of size and numbers meant we just couldn't get out of our own 40 metres zone.
[quote][p][bold]nosher[/bold] wrote: Just watched sky talk back on sky. Bulls had 6 play the balls in krs 20 metre area. They had over 100 in ours. Phil Clarke said it was the most one sided game he has ever seen. Bring back orford lol[/p][/quote]The fact we only conceded three tries and two of them from kicks speaks volumes for the defensive efforts the lads put in. On attack we were very poor. The few times we got the position we blew it. Other than that our lack of size and numbers meant we just couldn't get out of our own 40 metres zone. bradfordbronco
  • Score: 0

10:11pm Mon 24 Mar 14

jac&zac says...

axcelf1963-you really are a simpleton!
axcelf1963-you really are a simpleton! jac&zac
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10:17pm Mon 24 Mar 14

nosher says...

The effort and commitment being shown is fantastic. We are too small to compete and we don't have any creative players either. Worse than that is the take over saga. We need to bring in some quality but I can't see who that would be !!!!!!!!
The effort and commitment being shown is fantastic. We are too small to compete and we don't have any creative players either. Worse than that is the take over saga. We need to bring in some quality but I can't see who that would be !!!!!!!! nosher
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1:02am Tue 25 Mar 14

Arhmen Noleg says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Arhmen Noleg wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote: The only luck Bradford get it bad luck. The injuries happen to their biggest players, not the fringe players the core of the team and they seem to be racking up at the rate of one per match. Come June there will be no one left. Regarding the delays regarding the takeover, this is going to be an unliked post but I have sympathy with the RFL in all this. They helped out when Hood was in charge to keep the Bulls going but it bit them almost straight away with the club nearly going bust during the season and failing to furfil it's fixtures. Then after an admin they though they had two people in Khan and Sutcliffe who had the funds and the methods to take the club forward but all they got was empty promises. We can opperate on half sky monies if you let us in the Super League, was shortly followed by Sutcliffe taking to the papers to beg Akbars for cash. Then a winding up order from HMRC put down to an admin mistake, then admin error was blamed for late payment of wages, then a takeover was announced to find out Khan still owned the shares. The list goes on. It seems all goodwill has been lost and the RFL are having to really cross all the T's and dot all the I's on this one after what has happened in the past. I'm not saying the RFL aren't blameless but I am saying they get more than their share of the blame on here who really should be pointing figures closer to home. So now we have Lamb possibly taking over, with a group of property developers. Wanting to take over the Bulls and a piece of land right off the motorway, the term property developers strikes the fear of god into me hearing this. Call me cynical but I can see Bulls playing at cougar park in the championship with a big warehouse and delivery center being built up at Odsal with the RFL not bothered as they have their money back, and Bradford council rolling over with the promise of business rates and a lump sum of cash. Some their would sell their grandma for an envelope of cash. Time will tell but I strugle to see a positive at this time, I really do.
I would not object to a delivery centre if Bradford got a stadium fit for purpose as part of the change. Remember City are beholden to the Flamingo Land Pension Fund having in similar circumstances being forced to part with VP. The rent down there is nearer £400k than the £72k for Odsal. So how would ground sharing benefit the Bulls?
I said Cougar Park, not Valley Parade.

With regards to Valley Parade, the rent is higher yet but what about the rates. the maintenance, insurance, electric, gas, etc, etc that at present is being paid for twice. Only when you have both total costs for the premises can you make an informed decision to whether one it is better to combine the two.

When I was last up at Odsal it looked very dated as if no money has been put into it for a long time.
Your right about Odsal.
Overhead sharing cost accounting exercise would be needed.
But the principle of sharing equally a stadium whether it be Cougar VP Horsfall or somewhere else should be looked at

If it survives.
Which I think it will.Just.Thank God.
.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arhmen Noleg[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: The only luck Bradford get it bad luck. The injuries happen to their biggest players, not the fringe players the core of the team and they seem to be racking up at the rate of one per match. Come June there will be no one left. Regarding the delays regarding the takeover, this is going to be an unliked post but I have sympathy with the RFL in all this. They helped out when Hood was in charge to keep the Bulls going but it bit them almost straight away with the club nearly going bust during the season and failing to furfil it's fixtures. Then after an admin they though they had two people in Khan and Sutcliffe who had the funds and the methods to take the club forward but all they got was empty promises. We can opperate on half sky monies if you let us in the Super League, was shortly followed by Sutcliffe taking to the papers to beg Akbars for cash. Then a winding up order from HMRC put down to an admin mistake, then admin error was blamed for late payment of wages, then a takeover was announced to find out Khan still owned the shares. The list goes on. It seems all goodwill has been lost and the RFL are having to really cross all the T's and dot all the I's on this one after what has happened in the past. I'm not saying the RFL aren't blameless but I am saying they get more than their share of the blame on here who really should be pointing figures closer to home. So now we have Lamb possibly taking over, with a group of property developers. Wanting to take over the Bulls and a piece of land right off the motorway, the term property developers strikes the fear of god into me hearing this. Call me cynical but I can see Bulls playing at cougar park in the championship with a big warehouse and delivery center being built up at Odsal with the RFL not bothered as they have their money back, and Bradford council rolling over with the promise of business rates and a lump sum of cash. Some their would sell their grandma for an envelope of cash. Time will tell but I strugle to see a positive at this time, I really do.[/p][/quote]I would not object to a delivery centre if Bradford got a stadium fit for purpose as part of the change. Remember City are beholden to the Flamingo Land Pension Fund having in similar circumstances being forced to part with VP. The rent down there is nearer £400k than the £72k for Odsal. So how would ground sharing benefit the Bulls?[/p][/quote]I said Cougar Park, not Valley Parade. With regards to Valley Parade, the rent is higher yet but what about the rates. the maintenance, insurance, electric, gas, etc, etc that at present is being paid for twice. Only when you have both total costs for the premises can you make an informed decision to whether one it is better to combine the two. When I was last up at Odsal it looked very dated as if no money has been put into it for a long time.[/p][/quote]Your right about Odsal. Overhead sharing cost accounting exercise would be needed. But the principle of sharing equally a stadium whether it be Cougar VP Horsfall or somewhere else should be looked at If it survives. Which I think it will.Just.Thank God. . Arhmen Noleg
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