Mandy Koukash fears she has lost Bradford Bulls ownership battle

Mandy Koukash at Sunday's clash with Huddersfield

Mandy Koukash at Sunday's clash with Huddersfield

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Mandy Koukash has all but conceded defeat in her bid to buy Bradford Bulls after announcing she does not expect her offer to be accepted.

The wife of Salford Red Devils owner Dr Marwan Koukash attended Sunday's home game against Huddersfield with her husband and two children.

But Mrs Koukash took to Twitter this morning to say that she believes her bid will not be accepted by Leeds-based administrator David Wilson.

She tweeted: "I am hearing my bid will not be the winning one. My bid was focused in helping the Bulls.

"As I understand, the RFL has nothing to do with the decision. It is based on the highest bid to pay the old debt.

"Would like to wish all other bidders the very best."

Dr Koukash confirmed his wife's bid had failed when he tweeted: "Sadly, my wife's bid to buy the Bulls will not be the winning one. As she understands, it was not the highest bid."

Other potential owners include London-based businessman Richard Lamb, a consortium led by representatives of Bradford Park Avenue Football Club and debenture holder Marc Green, who is owed upwards of £250,000 following the loan he made to OK Bulls Ltd last September.

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11:00am Tue 18 Mar 14

MeccaBingo1 says...

Just what I/we did not want to hear.

Looks like another dead end

R.I.P Bulls!!!
Just what I/we did not want to hear. Looks like another dead end R.I.P Bulls!!! MeccaBingo1
  • Score: 30

11:02am Tue 18 Mar 14

Andy2010 says...

At least the RFL have got their priorities right in that they are selecting a new owner based on their commitment to clear the clubs previous debts.

Hope the £200k owed to each and every taxpayer in Bradford figures into that equasion
At least the RFL have got their priorities right in that they are selecting a new owner based on their commitment to clear the clubs previous debts. Hope the £200k owed to each and every taxpayer in Bradford figures into that equasion Andy2010
  • Score: -12

11:06am Tue 18 Mar 14

Shaggoth says...

Andy2010 wrote:
At least the RFL have got their priorities right in that they are selecting a new owner based on their commitment to clear the clubs previous debts. Hope the £200k owed to each and every taxpayer in Bradford figures into that equasion
You are mixing up the administrator and the RFL.

The RFLs priorities are to the game they administer not the taxpayers in one city that happens to have a team.
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: At least the RFL have got their priorities right in that they are selecting a new owner based on their commitment to clear the clubs previous debts. Hope the £200k owed to each and every taxpayer in Bradford figures into that equasion[/p][/quote]You are mixing up the administrator and the RFL. The RFLs priorities are to the game they administer not the taxpayers in one city that happens to have a team. Shaggoth
  • Score: 12

11:08am Tue 18 Mar 14

THEMANOFSTEEL says...

i really don't think the other people bidding really have the club at their best interests.
you don't hear anybody else telling people they are prepared to bring players in to help sort the team out
not what I wanted to hear
i really don't think the other people bidding really have the club at their best interests. you don't hear anybody else telling people they are prepared to bring players in to help sort the team out not what I wanted to hear THEMANOFSTEEL
  • Score: 25

11:09am Tue 18 Mar 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Andy2010 wrote:
At least the RFL have got their priorities right in that they are selecting a new owner based on their commitment to clear the clubs previous debts.

Hope the £200k owed to each and every taxpayer in Bradford figures into that equasion
Thats irrelevant as it is guaranteed by Khan. If the club defaults he is liable.
So with Marc Green been quoted as being owed £250k that means he would have a £250k start on clearing the debt as that would be paying himself.
This is a disaster and the begining of the end I feel.
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: At least the RFL have got their priorities right in that they are selecting a new owner based on their commitment to clear the clubs previous debts. Hope the £200k owed to each and every taxpayer in Bradford figures into that equasion[/p][/quote]Thats irrelevant as it is guaranteed by Khan. If the club defaults he is liable. So with Marc Green been quoted as being owed £250k that means he would have a £250k start on clearing the debt as that would be paying himself. This is a disaster and the begining of the end I feel. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 12

11:13am Tue 18 Mar 14

cleckbull says...

Shaggoth wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
At least the RFL have got their priorities right in that they are selecting a new owner based on their commitment to clear the clubs previous debts. Hope the £200k owed to each and every taxpayer in Bradford figures into that equasion
You are mixing up the administrator and the RFL.

The RFLs priorities are to the game they administer not the taxpayers in one city that happens to have a team.
DISASTER.....I WAIT FOR THE OUTCOME OF THE WINNER
HAPPY FOR US TO PLAY IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP
NO IMMEDIATE INVESTMENT IN THE TEAM ALONG WITH THE 6 POINTS REDUCTION WILL RESULT IN RELEGATION
THIS STINKS
[quote][p][bold]Shaggoth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: At least the RFL have got their priorities right in that they are selecting a new owner based on their commitment to clear the clubs previous debts. Hope the £200k owed to each and every taxpayer in Bradford figures into that equasion[/p][/quote]You are mixing up the administrator and the RFL. The RFLs priorities are to the game they administer not the taxpayers in one city that happens to have a team.[/p][/quote]DISASTER.....I WAIT FOR THE OUTCOME OF THE WINNER HAPPY FOR US TO PLAY IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP NO IMMEDIATE INVESTMENT IN THE TEAM ALONG WITH THE 6 POINTS REDUCTION WILL RESULT IN RELEGATION THIS STINKS cleckbull
  • Score: 20

11:13am Tue 18 Mar 14

franklyn says...

Not entirely un-expected going on RFL past reputation. after all she was proberbly the only one with the ready cash to turn the club around.
could be one of these who are owed money saying they will write off the debt if they get charge of the club. then first thing that goes wrong they will want the money back, and the club will be back at square one.
the whole situation has become one big farce, but after all it is the RFL we are talking about.
Not entirely un-expected going on RFL past reputation. after all she was proberbly the only one with the ready cash to turn the club around. could be one of these who are owed money saying they will write off the debt if they get charge of the club. then first thing that goes wrong they will want the money back, and the club will be back at square one. the whole situation has become one big farce, but after all it is the RFL we are talking about. franklyn
  • Score: 14

11:13am Tue 18 Mar 14

taurusthebull says...

Andy2010 wrote:
At least the RFL have got their priorities right in that they are selecting a new owner based on their commitment to clear the clubs previous debts.

Hope the £200k owed to each and every taxpayer in Bradford figures into that equasion
get your numbers right 200K IS NOT OWED TO EACH AND EVERY TAXPAYER , It was 200k overall . wake up and learn some maths .AND
The administrator decides not the RFL !!
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: At least the RFL have got their priorities right in that they are selecting a new owner based on their commitment to clear the clubs previous debts. Hope the £200k owed to each and every taxpayer in Bradford figures into that equasion[/p][/quote]get your numbers right 200K IS NOT OWED TO EACH AND EVERY TAXPAYER , It was 200k overall . wake up and learn some maths .AND The administrator decides not the RFL !! taurusthebull
  • Score: 7

11:14am Tue 18 Mar 14

Andy2010 says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
At least the RFL have got their priorities right in that they are selecting a new owner based on their commitment to clear the clubs previous debts.

Hope the £200k owed to each and every taxpayer in Bradford figures into that equasion
Thats irrelevant as it is guaranteed by Khan. If the club defaults he is liable.
So with Marc Green been quoted as being owed £250k that means he would have a £250k start on clearing the debt as that would be paying himself.
This is a disaster and the begining of the end I feel.
Fair enough

By the sound of it though and what some others were posting yesterday looks like the Bulls have dodged a bullet with this woman and her totally incompetent ways of running businesses into massive debts then closing them down
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: At least the RFL have got their priorities right in that they are selecting a new owner based on their commitment to clear the clubs previous debts. Hope the £200k owed to each and every taxpayer in Bradford figures into that equasion[/p][/quote]Thats irrelevant as it is guaranteed by Khan. If the club defaults he is liable. So with Marc Green been quoted as being owed £250k that means he would have a £250k start on clearing the debt as that would be paying himself. This is a disaster and the begining of the end I feel.[/p][/quote]Fair enough By the sound of it though and what some others were posting yesterday looks like the Bulls have dodged a bullet with this woman and her totally incompetent ways of running businesses into massive debts then closing them down Andy2010
  • Score: -1

11:17am Tue 18 Mar 14

Andy2010 says...

taurusthebull wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
At least the RFL have got their priorities right in that they are selecting a new owner based on their commitment to clear the clubs previous debts.

Hope the £200k owed to each and every taxpayer in Bradford figures into that equasion
get your numbers right 200K IS NOT OWED TO EACH AND EVERY TAXPAYER , It was 200k overall . wake up and learn some maths .AND
The administrator decides not the RFL !!
You idiot

You seriously believe I thought £200k was owed to everyone of Bradford's council tax payers...lol

that's lets say 1.8 million people x £200k .....

Fair enough about the administrator but lol at the thought I'm sat here waiting for my personal cheque of £200k
[quote][p][bold]taurusthebull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: At least the RFL have got their priorities right in that they are selecting a new owner based on their commitment to clear the clubs previous debts. Hope the £200k owed to each and every taxpayer in Bradford figures into that equasion[/p][/quote]get your numbers right 200K IS NOT OWED TO EACH AND EVERY TAXPAYER , It was 200k overall . wake up and learn some maths .AND The administrator decides not the RFL !![/p][/quote]You idiot You seriously believe I thought £200k was owed to everyone of Bradford's council tax payers...lol that's lets say 1.8 million people x £200k ..... Fair enough about the administrator but lol at the thought I'm sat here waiting for my personal cheque of £200k Andy2010
  • Score: 1

11:21am Tue 18 Mar 14

Milo08 says...

Andy2010 wrote:
taurusthebull wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
At least the RFL have got their priorities right in that they are selecting a new owner based on their commitment to clear the clubs previous debts.

Hope the £200k owed to each and every taxpayer in Bradford figures into that equasion
get your numbers right 200K IS NOT OWED TO EACH AND EVERY TAXPAYER , It was 200k overall . wake up and learn some maths .AND
The administrator decides not the RFL !!
You idiot

You seriously believe I thought £200k was owed to everyone of Bradford's council tax payers...lol

that's lets say 1.8 million people x £200k .....

Fair enough about the administrator but lol at the thought I'm sat here waiting for my personal cheque of £200k
Get your grammar right then!
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]taurusthebull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: At least the RFL have got their priorities right in that they are selecting a new owner based on their commitment to clear the clubs previous debts. Hope the £200k owed to each and every taxpayer in Bradford figures into that equasion[/p][/quote]get your numbers right 200K IS NOT OWED TO EACH AND EVERY TAXPAYER , It was 200k overall . wake up and learn some maths .AND The administrator decides not the RFL !![/p][/quote]You idiot You seriously believe I thought £200k was owed to everyone of Bradford's council tax payers...lol that's lets say 1.8 million people x £200k ..... Fair enough about the administrator but lol at the thought I'm sat here waiting for my personal cheque of £200k[/p][/quote]Get your grammar right then! Milo08
  • Score: -3

11:22am Tue 18 Mar 14

Farsley Bantam says...

Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote: At least the RFL have got their priorities right in that they are selecting a new owner based on their commitment to clear the clubs previous debts. Hope the £200k owed to each and every taxpayer in Bradford figures into that equasion
Thats irrelevant as it is guaranteed by Khan. If the club defaults he is liable. So with Marc Green been quoted as being owed £250k that means he would have a £250k start on clearing the debt as that would be paying himself. This is a disaster and the begining of the end I feel.
Fair enough By the sound of it though and what some others were posting yesterday looks like the Bulls have dodged a bullet with this woman and her totally incompetent ways of running businesses into massive debts then closing them down
You think it would have been Mandy running the business then? Anyone with half a brain can see that Dr Koukash wants 2 clubs so he put his wife in as a puppet.
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: At least the RFL have got their priorities right in that they are selecting a new owner based on their commitment to clear the clubs previous debts. Hope the £200k owed to each and every taxpayer in Bradford figures into that equasion[/p][/quote]Thats irrelevant as it is guaranteed by Khan. If the club defaults he is liable. So with Marc Green been quoted as being owed £250k that means he would have a £250k start on clearing the debt as that would be paying himself. This is a disaster and the begining of the end I feel.[/p][/quote]Fair enough By the sound of it though and what some others were posting yesterday looks like the Bulls have dodged a bullet with this woman and her totally incompetent ways of running businesses into massive debts then closing them down[/p][/quote]You think it would have been Mandy running the business then? Anyone with half a brain can see that Dr Koukash wants 2 clubs so he put his wife in as a puppet. Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 15

11:23am Tue 18 Mar 14

Andy2010 says...

Milo08 wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
taurusthebull wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
At least the RFL have got their priorities right in that they are selecting a new owner based on their commitment to clear the clubs previous debts.

Hope the £200k owed to each and every taxpayer in Bradford figures into that equasion
get your numbers right 200K IS NOT OWED TO EACH AND EVERY TAXPAYER , It was 200k overall . wake up and learn some maths .AND
The administrator decides not the RFL !!
You idiot

You seriously believe I thought £200k was owed to everyone of Bradford's council tax payers...lol

that's lets say 1.8 million people x £200k .....

Fair enough about the administrator but lol at the thought I'm sat here waiting for my personal cheque of £200k
Get your grammar right then!
And that has what to do with anything?
[quote][p][bold]Milo08[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]taurusthebull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: At least the RFL have got their priorities right in that they are selecting a new owner based on their commitment to clear the clubs previous debts. Hope the £200k owed to each and every taxpayer in Bradford figures into that equasion[/p][/quote]get your numbers right 200K IS NOT OWED TO EACH AND EVERY TAXPAYER , It was 200k overall . wake up and learn some maths .AND The administrator decides not the RFL !![/p][/quote]You idiot You seriously believe I thought £200k was owed to everyone of Bradford's council tax payers...lol that's lets say 1.8 million people x £200k ..... Fair enough about the administrator but lol at the thought I'm sat here waiting for my personal cheque of £200k[/p][/quote]Get your grammar right then![/p][/quote]And that has what to do with anything? Andy2010
  • Score: 0

11:25am Tue 18 Mar 14

Andy2010 says...

Farsley Bantam wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote: At least the RFL have got their priorities right in that they are selecting a new owner based on their commitment to clear the clubs previous debts. Hope the £200k owed to each and every taxpayer in Bradford figures into that equasion
Thats irrelevant as it is guaranteed by Khan. If the club defaults he is liable. So with Marc Green been quoted as being owed £250k that means he would have a £250k start on clearing the debt as that would be paying himself. This is a disaster and the begining of the end I feel.
Fair enough By the sound of it though and what some others were posting yesterday looks like the Bulls have dodged a bullet with this woman and her totally incompetent ways of running businesses into massive debts then closing them down
You think it would have been Mandy running the business then? Anyone with half a brain can see that Dr Koukash wants 2 clubs so he put his wife in as a puppet.
If that was the case surely he could put someone into this role by way of proxy. Not sure how you would get this around the RFL but sure there are ways.
[quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: At least the RFL have got their priorities right in that they are selecting a new owner based on their commitment to clear the clubs previous debts. Hope the £200k owed to each and every taxpayer in Bradford figures into that equasion[/p][/quote]Thats irrelevant as it is guaranteed by Khan. If the club defaults he is liable. So with Marc Green been quoted as being owed £250k that means he would have a £250k start on clearing the debt as that would be paying himself. This is a disaster and the begining of the end I feel.[/p][/quote]Fair enough By the sound of it though and what some others were posting yesterday looks like the Bulls have dodged a bullet with this woman and her totally incompetent ways of running businesses into massive debts then closing them down[/p][/quote]You think it would have been Mandy running the business then? Anyone with half a brain can see that Dr Koukash wants 2 clubs so he put his wife in as a puppet.[/p][/quote]If that was the case surely he could put someone into this role by way of proxy. Not sure how you would get this around the RFL but sure there are ways. Andy2010
  • Score: -2

11:28am Tue 18 Mar 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

franklyn wrote:
Not entirely un-expected going on RFL past reputation. after all she was proberbly the only one with the ready cash to turn the club around. could be one of these who are owed money saying they will write off the debt if they get charge of the club. then first thing that goes wrong they will want the money back, and the club will be back at square one. the whole situation has become one big farce, but after all it is the RFL we are talking about.
Don't let the fact that the RFL are in no way involved in the administrator getting the best deal for creditors cloud your judgement.

The RFL might be at fault for some things but they are nothing to do with this.

This is probably how Moore's first bid was accepted as £500k of future money was going to be used to buy the club and pay off some creditors to edge out the other bids.

This time it might be Marc Green who says his £250k will be paid and a little more to others meaning anyone else will have to come in with well over £250k to get close to his bid.

At the end of the day, Marc Green is probably the last person anyone would want taking over the club but due deals Whitcut got involved in he has been put in the prime seats for a takeover, and his takeover might just be asset stripping to get his money back.

Once again, this is a disaster and I can see little hope.
[quote][p][bold]franklyn[/bold] wrote: Not entirely un-expected going on RFL past reputation. after all she was proberbly the only one with the ready cash to turn the club around. could be one of these who are owed money saying they will write off the debt if they get charge of the club. then first thing that goes wrong they will want the money back, and the club will be back at square one. the whole situation has become one big farce, but after all it is the RFL we are talking about.[/p][/quote]Don't let the fact that the RFL are in no way involved in the administrator getting the best deal for creditors cloud your judgement. The RFL might be at fault for some things but they are nothing to do with this. This is probably how Moore's first bid was accepted as £500k of future money was going to be used to buy the club and pay off some creditors to edge out the other bids. This time it might be Marc Green who says his £250k will be paid and a little more to others meaning anyone else will have to come in with well over £250k to get close to his bid. At the end of the day, Marc Green is probably the last person anyone would want taking over the club but due deals Whitcut got involved in he has been put in the prime seats for a takeover, and his takeover might just be asset stripping to get his money back. Once again, this is a disaster and I can see little hope. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 14

11:29am Tue 18 Mar 14

Leagueman says...

Same again, leaks coming through rather than a proper announcement.
How long does it take to decide the best bid? Is the idiot looking which bid is best for his firm of administrators or stringing it along for as many days as possible to claim their fee? That aside I feel any of the other bids bar M.K.s is disastrous as they will not have funds for player recruitment after debts are paid. Therefore this squad will see the season out and I can see more players leaving once they realise this before signing for new set up.
Same again, leaks coming through rather than a proper announcement. How long does it take to decide the best bid? Is the idiot looking which bid is best for his firm of administrators or stringing it along for as many days as possible to claim their fee? That aside I feel any of the other bids bar M.K.s is disastrous as they will not have funds for player recruitment after debts are paid. Therefore this squad will see the season out and I can see more players leaving once they realise this before signing for new set up. Leagueman
  • Score: 8

11:33am Tue 18 Mar 14

Farsley Bantam says...

Andy2010 wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote: At least the RFL have got their priorities right in that they are selecting a new owner based on their commitment to clear the clubs previous debts. Hope the £200k owed to each and every taxpayer in Bradford figures into that equasion
Thats irrelevant as it is guaranteed by Khan. If the club defaults he is liable. So with Marc Green been quoted as being owed £250k that means he would have a £250k start on clearing the debt as that would be paying himself. This is a disaster and the begining of the end I feel.
Fair enough By the sound of it though and what some others were posting yesterday looks like the Bulls have dodged a bullet with this woman and her totally incompetent ways of running businesses into massive debts then closing them down
You think it would have been Mandy running the business then? Anyone with half a brain can see that Dr Koukash wants 2 clubs so he put his wife in as a puppet.
If that was the case surely he could put someone into this role by way of proxy. Not sure how you would get this around the RFL but sure there are ways.
Bit risky though. Making someone the owner and majority shareholder of 'your' club but having a private gentlemans agreement that you are really the owner is a serious risk. Legally you don't have a leg to stand on if the 'owner' decides he doesn't want to listen to you any more. Much safer to put your obedient wife in the role.
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: At least the RFL have got their priorities right in that they are selecting a new owner based on their commitment to clear the clubs previous debts. Hope the £200k owed to each and every taxpayer in Bradford figures into that equasion[/p][/quote]Thats irrelevant as it is guaranteed by Khan. If the club defaults he is liable. So with Marc Green been quoted as being owed £250k that means he would have a £250k start on clearing the debt as that would be paying himself. This is a disaster and the begining of the end I feel.[/p][/quote]Fair enough By the sound of it though and what some others were posting yesterday looks like the Bulls have dodged a bullet with this woman and her totally incompetent ways of running businesses into massive debts then closing them down[/p][/quote]You think it would have been Mandy running the business then? Anyone with half a brain can see that Dr Koukash wants 2 clubs so he put his wife in as a puppet.[/p][/quote]If that was the case surely he could put someone into this role by way of proxy. Not sure how you would get this around the RFL but sure there are ways.[/p][/quote]Bit risky though. Making someone the owner and majority shareholder of 'your' club but having a private gentlemans agreement that you are really the owner is a serious risk. Legally you don't have a leg to stand on if the 'owner' decides he doesn't want to listen to you any more. Much safer to put your obedient wife in the role. Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 6

11:35am Tue 18 Mar 14

Nick Harrison says...

Mandy did run her own business - and it failed and that Company has outstanding CCJs of £133,000! She placed it into liquidation. The businesses that her company owed have not been paid despite a court telling that company that they have to. There is no way she can be a fit and proper person. I know nothing about her, but on paper she runs a business in the same way OK did. It is easy to spend other people's money...
Mandy did run her own business - and it failed and that Company has outstanding CCJs of £133,000! She placed it into liquidation. The businesses that her company owed have not been paid despite a court telling that company that they have to. There is no way she can be a fit and proper person. I know nothing about her, but on paper she runs a business in the same way OK did. It is easy to spend other people's money... Nick Harrison
  • Score: 4

11:35am Tue 18 Mar 14

Milo08 says...

Andy2010 wrote:
Milo08 wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
taurusthebull wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
At least the RFL have got their priorities right in that they are selecting a new owner based on their commitment to clear the clubs previous debts.

Hope the £200k owed to each and every taxpayer in Bradford figures into that equasion
get your numbers right 200K IS NOT OWED TO EACH AND EVERY TAXPAYER , It was 200k overall . wake up and learn some maths .AND
The administrator decides not the RFL !!
You idiot

You seriously believe I thought £200k was owed to everyone of Bradford's council tax payers...lol

that's lets say 1.8 million people x £200k .....

Fair enough about the administrator but lol at the thought I'm sat here waiting for my personal cheque of £200k
Get your grammar right then!
And that has what to do with anything?
People might understand what you are on about
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Milo08[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]taurusthebull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: At least the RFL have got their priorities right in that they are selecting a new owner based on their commitment to clear the clubs previous debts. Hope the £200k owed to each and every taxpayer in Bradford figures into that equasion[/p][/quote]get your numbers right 200K IS NOT OWED TO EACH AND EVERY TAXPAYER , It was 200k overall . wake up and learn some maths .AND The administrator decides not the RFL !![/p][/quote]You idiot You seriously believe I thought £200k was owed to everyone of Bradford's council tax payers...lol that's lets say 1.8 million people x £200k ..... Fair enough about the administrator but lol at the thought I'm sat here waiting for my personal cheque of £200k[/p][/quote]Get your grammar right then![/p][/quote]And that has what to do with anything?[/p][/quote]People might understand what you are on about Milo08
  • Score: 1

11:37am Tue 18 Mar 14

BierleyBoy says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
At least the RFL have got their priorities right in that they are selecting a new owner based on their commitment to clear the clubs previous debts.

Hope the £200k owed to each and every taxpayer in Bradford figures into that equasion
Thats irrelevant as it is guaranteed by Khan. If the club defaults he is liable.
So with Marc Green been quoted as being owed £250k that means he would have a £250k start on clearing the debt as that would be paying himself.
This is a disaster and the begining of the end I feel.
You are aware that OK Bulls has defaulted on the loan, as has Omar Khan?

No instalments have been paid since Khan believed he had sold the club last September.

Would you also believe it that the council didn't have any causes in the loan saying that if he quit or sold up it would all become repayable? Well, they didn't. They knew Khan didn't pick up any debts when he took over, but for some reason thought it was not important to note that future owners wouldn't either.

The council has gone into lockdown over this. There should be disciplinary action taken against those responsible at Bradford Council. David Green should be investigated for using public money to do political favours.

The club iis at the mercy of Marc. Green. He owns the assets & will make sure he doesn't lose out. The longer this goes on, the bigger the administrators pay cheque becomes.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: At least the RFL have got their priorities right in that they are selecting a new owner based on their commitment to clear the clubs previous debts. Hope the £200k owed to each and every taxpayer in Bradford figures into that equasion[/p][/quote]Thats irrelevant as it is guaranteed by Khan. If the club defaults he is liable. So with Marc Green been quoted as being owed £250k that means he would have a £250k start on clearing the debt as that would be paying himself. This is a disaster and the begining of the end I feel.[/p][/quote]You are aware that OK Bulls has defaulted on the loan, as has Omar Khan? No instalments have been paid since Khan believed he had sold the club last September. Would you also believe it that the council didn't have any causes in the loan saying that if he quit or sold up it would all become repayable? Well, they didn't. They knew Khan didn't pick up any debts when he took over, but for some reason thought it was not important to note that future owners wouldn't either. The council has gone into lockdown over this. There should be disciplinary action taken against those responsible at Bradford Council. David Green should be investigated for using public money to do political favours. The club iis at the mercy of Marc. Green. He owns the assets & will make sure he doesn't lose out. The longer this goes on, the bigger the administrators pay cheque becomes. BierleyBoy
  • Score: 11

11:39am Tue 18 Mar 14

Bone_idle18 says...

Oh dear, back to square one I suspect.
Oh dear, back to square one I suspect. Bone_idle18
  • Score: 9

11:44am Tue 18 Mar 14

Andy2010 says...

Milo08 wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
Milo08 wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
taurusthebull wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
At least the RFL have got their priorities right in that they are selecting a new owner based on their commitment to clear the clubs previous debts.

Hope the £200k owed to each and every taxpayer in Bradford figures into that equasion
get your numbers right 200K IS NOT OWED TO EACH AND EVERY TAXPAYER , It was 200k overall . wake up and learn some maths .AND
The administrator decides not the RFL !!
You idiot

You seriously believe I thought £200k was owed to everyone of Bradford's council tax payers...lol

that's lets say 1.8 million people x £200k .....

Fair enough about the administrator but lol at the thought I'm sat here waiting for my personal cheque of £200k
Get your grammar right then!
And that has what to do with anything?
People might understand what you are on about
You forgot the full stop at the end of your sentence. You had better add that in so people can understand what your sentence.
[quote][p][bold]Milo08[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Milo08[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]taurusthebull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: At least the RFL have got their priorities right in that they are selecting a new owner based on their commitment to clear the clubs previous debts. Hope the £200k owed to each and every taxpayer in Bradford figures into that equasion[/p][/quote]get your numbers right 200K IS NOT OWED TO EACH AND EVERY TAXPAYER , It was 200k overall . wake up and learn some maths .AND The administrator decides not the RFL !![/p][/quote]You idiot You seriously believe I thought £200k was owed to everyone of Bradford's council tax payers...lol that's lets say 1.8 million people x £200k ..... Fair enough about the administrator but lol at the thought I'm sat here waiting for my personal cheque of £200k[/p][/quote]Get your grammar right then![/p][/quote]And that has what to do with anything?[/p][/quote]People might understand what you are on about[/p][/quote]You forgot the full stop at the end of your sentence. You had better add that in so people can understand what your sentence. Andy2010
  • Score: -8

11:48am Tue 18 Mar 14

cleckbull says...

if it is green weve had it !!
if it is green weve had it !! cleckbull
  • Score: 9

11:53am Tue 18 Mar 14

Ryanbulls says...

Could be the best option out of them all . I can only see Marc Green outbidding her becuase the bid is for the debt that the bulls have, and the debt is owed to Marc Green. If he Wipes the debt and then brings on Many Koukash for a stake in the club she can provide the investment to the playing squad and publicity. I believe this is the best option and one that safeguards us to that all important goal of staying up this season and then getting us that full sky money for the next where we can challenge the top 8. #COYB
Could be the best option out of them all . I can only see Marc Green outbidding her becuase the bid is for the debt that the bulls have, and the debt is owed to Marc Green. If he Wipes the debt and then brings on Many Koukash for a stake in the club she can provide the investment to the playing squad and publicity. I believe this is the best option and one that safeguards us to that all important goal of staying up this season and then getting us that full sky money for the next where we can challenge the top 8. #COYB Ryanbulls
  • Score: 1

12:00pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Ryanbulls wrote:
Could be the best option out of them all . I can only see Marc Green outbidding her becuase the bid is for the debt that the bulls have, and the debt is owed to Marc Green. If he Wipes the debt and then brings on Many Koukash for a stake in the club she can provide the investment to the playing squad and publicity. I believe this is the best option and one that safeguards us to that all important goal of staying up this season and then getting us that full sky money for the next where we can challenge the top 8. #COYB
I like your optomistic outlook, even after years of being kicked in the balls you still see the best in everything.

I think the truth is this is the best deal for the creditors but the worst deal for the club. Where has £250k owed to Marc Green come from, it was initially qutoed as £150k, did Whitcut sign up to a 2000% APR loan?
[quote][p][bold]Ryanbulls[/bold] wrote: Could be the best option out of them all . I can only see Marc Green outbidding her becuase the bid is for the debt that the bulls have, and the debt is owed to Marc Green. If he Wipes the debt and then brings on Many Koukash for a stake in the club she can provide the investment to the playing squad and publicity. I believe this is the best option and one that safeguards us to that all important goal of staying up this season and then getting us that full sky money for the next where we can challenge the top 8. #COYB[/p][/quote]I like your optomistic outlook, even after years of being kicked in the balls you still see the best in everything. I think the truth is this is the best deal for the creditors but the worst deal for the club. Where has £250k owed to Marc Green come from, it was initially qutoed as £150k, did Whitcut sign up to a 2000% APR loan? Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 10

12:07pm Tue 18 Mar 14

axelf1963 says...

Did try tell you all
Did try tell you all axelf1963
  • Score: -3

12:12pm Tue 18 Mar 14

northern pig says...

I have just read Sky Sports News. Mandy says she would consider working with the'' highest bidder''
I have just read Sky Sports News. Mandy says she would consider working with the'' highest bidder'' northern pig
  • Score: 12

12:15pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Papa Smurfs Wig says...

BierleyBoy wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
At least the RFL have got their priorities right in that they are selecting a new owner based on their commitment to clear the clubs previous debts.

Hope the £200k owed to each and every taxpayer in Bradford figures into that equasion
Thats irrelevant as it is guaranteed by Khan. If the club defaults he is liable.
So with Marc Green been quoted as being owed £250k that means he would have a £250k start on clearing the debt as that would be paying himself.
This is a disaster and the begining of the end I feel.
You are aware that OK Bulls has defaulted on the loan, as has Omar Khan?

No instalments have been paid since Khan believed he had sold the club last September.

Would you also believe it that the council didn't have any causes in the loan saying that if he quit or sold up it would all become repayable? Well, they didn't. They knew Khan didn't pick up any debts when he took over, but for some reason thought it was not important to note that future owners wouldn't either.

The council has gone into lockdown over this. There should be disciplinary action taken against those responsible at Bradford Council. David Green should be investigated for using public money to do political favours.

The club iis at the mercy of Marc. Green. He owns the assets & will make sure he doesn't lose out. The longer this goes on, the bigger the administrators pay cheque becomes.
Dave Green won't comment on this when asked but stick a mic in front of his mush and ask about Westfield and he won't shut up with that horrible twang.
[quote][p][bold]BierleyBoy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: At least the RFL have got their priorities right in that they are selecting a new owner based on their commitment to clear the clubs previous debts. Hope the £200k owed to each and every taxpayer in Bradford figures into that equasion[/p][/quote]Thats irrelevant as it is guaranteed by Khan. If the club defaults he is liable. So with Marc Green been quoted as being owed £250k that means he would have a £250k start on clearing the debt as that would be paying himself. This is a disaster and the begining of the end I feel.[/p][/quote]You are aware that OK Bulls has defaulted on the loan, as has Omar Khan? No instalments have been paid since Khan believed he had sold the club last September. Would you also believe it that the council didn't have any causes in the loan saying that if he quit or sold up it would all become repayable? Well, they didn't. They knew Khan didn't pick up any debts when he took over, but for some reason thought it was not important to note that future owners wouldn't either. The council has gone into lockdown over this. There should be disciplinary action taken against those responsible at Bradford Council. David Green should be investigated for using public money to do political favours. The club iis at the mercy of Marc. Green. He owns the assets & will make sure he doesn't lose out. The longer this goes on, the bigger the administrators pay cheque becomes.[/p][/quote]Dave Green won't comment on this when asked but stick a mic in front of his mush and ask about Westfield and he won't shut up with that horrible twang. Papa Smurfs Wig
  • Score: 7

12:20pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Bowlingboy says...

ohhhhhhh dear....
ohhhhhhh dear.... Bowlingboy
  • Score: 2

12:21pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Papa Smurfs Wig says...

The Koukash' were showboating far too early, now it's bit their rear end.
She did say she'd invest in the club if she lost though.
The Koukash' were showboating far too early, now it's bit their rear end. She did say she'd invest in the club if she lost though. Papa Smurfs Wig
  • Score: 5

12:32pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Ryanbulls says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Ryanbulls wrote:
Could be the best option out of them all . I can only see Marc Green outbidding her becuase the bid is for the debt that the bulls have, and the debt is owed to Marc Green. If he Wipes the debt and then brings on Many Koukash for a stake in the club she can provide the investment to the playing squad and publicity. I believe this is the best option and one that safeguards us to that all important goal of staying up this season and then getting us that full sky money for the next where we can challenge the top 8. #COYB
I like your optomistic outlook, even after years of being kicked in the balls you still see the best in everything.

I think the truth is this is the best deal for the creditors but the worst deal for the club. Where has £250k owed to Marc Green come from, it was initially qutoed as £150k, did Whitcut sign up to a 2000% APR loan?
Im a true bulls fan and had a season ticket for 16 years and things will get better so ill stick through with my team until the end. Its a loan from Marc Green's company to Omar khan which needs to be paid up. We will be flying high in the next 4 years if we are prepared to stick through it!
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ryanbulls[/bold] wrote: Could be the best option out of them all . I can only see Marc Green outbidding her becuase the bid is for the debt that the bulls have, and the debt is owed to Marc Green. If he Wipes the debt and then brings on Many Koukash for a stake in the club she can provide the investment to the playing squad and publicity. I believe this is the best option and one that safeguards us to that all important goal of staying up this season and then getting us that full sky money for the next where we can challenge the top 8. #COYB[/p][/quote]I like your optomistic outlook, even after years of being kicked in the balls you still see the best in everything. I think the truth is this is the best deal for the creditors but the worst deal for the club. Where has £250k owed to Marc Green come from, it was initially qutoed as £150k, did Whitcut sign up to a 2000% APR loan?[/p][/quote]Im a true bulls fan and had a season ticket for 16 years and things will get better so ill stick through with my team until the end. Its a loan from Marc Green's company to Omar khan which needs to be paid up. We will be flying high in the next 4 years if we are prepared to stick through it! Ryanbulls
  • Score: 3

12:37pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Ryanbulls wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Ryanbulls wrote: Could be the best option out of them all . I can only see Marc Green outbidding her becuase the bid is for the debt that the bulls have, and the debt is owed to Marc Green. If he Wipes the debt and then brings on Many Koukash for a stake in the club she can provide the investment to the playing squad and publicity. I believe this is the best option and one that safeguards us to that all important goal of staying up this season and then getting us that full sky money for the next where we can challenge the top 8. #COYB
I like your optomistic outlook, even after years of being kicked in the balls you still see the best in everything. I think the truth is this is the best deal for the creditors but the worst deal for the club. Where has £250k owed to Marc Green come from, it was initially qutoed as £150k, did Whitcut sign up to a 2000% APR loan?
Im a true bulls fan and had a season ticket for 16 years and things will get better so ill stick through with my team until the end. Its a loan from Marc Green's company to Omar khan which needs to be paid up. We will be flying high in the next 4 years if we are prepared to stick through it!
There are fans and there is blind faith. Not having blind faith does not mean you are not a fan.
[quote][p][bold]Ryanbulls[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ryanbulls[/bold] wrote: Could be the best option out of them all . I can only see Marc Green outbidding her becuase the bid is for the debt that the bulls have, and the debt is owed to Marc Green. If he Wipes the debt and then brings on Many Koukash for a stake in the club she can provide the investment to the playing squad and publicity. I believe this is the best option and one that safeguards us to that all important goal of staying up this season and then getting us that full sky money for the next where we can challenge the top 8. #COYB[/p][/quote]I like your optomistic outlook, even after years of being kicked in the balls you still see the best in everything. I think the truth is this is the best deal for the creditors but the worst deal for the club. Where has £250k owed to Marc Green come from, it was initially qutoed as £150k, did Whitcut sign up to a 2000% APR loan?[/p][/quote]Im a true bulls fan and had a season ticket for 16 years and things will get better so ill stick through with my team until the end. Its a loan from Marc Green's company to Omar khan which needs to be paid up. We will be flying high in the next 4 years if we are prepared to stick through it![/p][/quote]There are fans and there is blind faith. Not having blind faith does not mean you are not a fan. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 5

12:38pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Bowlingboy says...

I would have thought the Koukash bid was to pay off all debt THEN invest in the team, that way they could have cleared the 6 points and begun contending they were they only bid I personally had any faith in,

I was optimistic until now!

It seems like we may be landed with another owner similar to OK or BB2014,
that haven't got enough money to keep the club where they need to be.

A combined bid with the koukash's would be a blessing but I cant see it hapening,
I would have thought the Koukash bid was to pay off all debt THEN invest in the team, that way they could have cleared the 6 points and begun contending they were they only bid I personally had any faith in, I was optimistic until now! It seems like we may be landed with another owner similar to OK or BB2014, that haven't got enough money to keep the club where they need to be. A combined bid with the koukash's would be a blessing but I cant see it hapening, Bowlingboy
  • Score: 3

12:45pm Tue 18 Mar 14

bullbob says...

Oh dear.

Good night Bradford Bulls, someone turn the lights out so they can rest easy.
If not in 10 months time, we will be going through the same embarrassing situation.

If it were a pet, you'd put it down
Oh dear. Good night Bradford Bulls, someone turn the lights out so they can rest easy. If not in 10 months time, we will be going through the same embarrassing situation. If it were a pet, you'd put it down bullbob
  • Score: 10

12:54pm Tue 18 Mar 14

taurusthebull says...

Andy2010 wrote:
taurusthebull wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
At least the RFL have got their priorities right in that they are selecting a new owner based on their commitment to clear the clubs previous debts.

Hope the £200k owed to each and every taxpayer in Bradford figures into that equasion
get your numbers right 200K IS NOT OWED TO EACH AND EVERY TAXPAYER , It was 200k overall . wake up and learn some maths .AND
The administrator decides not the RFL !!
You idiot

You seriously believe I thought £200k was owed to everyone of Bradford's council tax payers...lol

that's lets say 1.8 million people x £200k .....

Fair enough about the administrator but lol at the thought I'm sat here waiting for my personal cheque of £200k
Please mind your attitude , and don't personally insult me , it was your comment that was idiotic , but then again if you cannot even word or phrase your comment correctly , why should I expect anything else from you !
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]taurusthebull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: At least the RFL have got their priorities right in that they are selecting a new owner based on their commitment to clear the clubs previous debts. Hope the £200k owed to each and every taxpayer in Bradford figures into that equasion[/p][/quote]get your numbers right 200K IS NOT OWED TO EACH AND EVERY TAXPAYER , It was 200k overall . wake up and learn some maths .AND The administrator decides not the RFL !![/p][/quote]You idiot You seriously believe I thought £200k was owed to everyone of Bradford's council tax payers...lol that's lets say 1.8 million people x £200k ..... Fair enough about the administrator but lol at the thought I'm sat here waiting for my personal cheque of £200k[/p][/quote]Please mind your attitude , and don't personally insult me , it was your comment that was idiotic , but then again if you cannot even word or phrase your comment correctly , why should I expect anything else from you ! taurusthebull
  • Score: -2

1:06pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Paul from Idle says...

Game over!
Game over! Paul from Idle
  • Score: 8

1:08pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Andy2010 says...

taurusthebull wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
taurusthebull wrote:
Andy2010 wrote:
At least the RFL have got their priorities right in that they are selecting a new owner based on their commitment to clear the clubs previous debts.

Hope the £200k owed to each and every taxpayer in Bradford figures into that equasion
get your numbers right 200K IS NOT OWED TO EACH AND EVERY TAXPAYER , It was 200k overall . wake up and learn some maths .AND
The administrator decides not the RFL !!
You idiot

You seriously believe I thought £200k was owed to everyone of Bradford's council tax payers...lol

that's lets say 1.8 million people x £200k .....

Fair enough about the administrator but lol at the thought I'm sat here waiting for my personal cheque of £200k
Please mind your attitude , and don't personally insult me , it was your comment that was idiotic , but then again if you cannot even word or phrase your comment correctly , why should I expect anything else from you !
Its idiotic to ask when the council we pay money to will be paid back a loan made to the club?

You are the idiot my friend for thinking otherwise.
[quote][p][bold]taurusthebull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]taurusthebull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote: At least the RFL have got their priorities right in that they are selecting a new owner based on their commitment to clear the clubs previous debts. Hope the £200k owed to each and every taxpayer in Bradford figures into that equasion[/p][/quote]get your numbers right 200K IS NOT OWED TO EACH AND EVERY TAXPAYER , It was 200k overall . wake up and learn some maths .AND The administrator decides not the RFL !![/p][/quote]You idiot You seriously believe I thought £200k was owed to everyone of Bradford's council tax payers...lol that's lets say 1.8 million people x £200k ..... Fair enough about the administrator but lol at the thought I'm sat here waiting for my personal cheque of £200k[/p][/quote]Please mind your attitude , and don't personally insult me , it was your comment that was idiotic , but then again if you cannot even word or phrase your comment correctly , why should I expect anything else from you ![/p][/quote]Its idiotic to ask when the council we pay money to will be paid back a loan made to the club? You are the idiot my friend for thinking otherwise. Andy2010
  • Score: 2

1:32pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Videoref says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
franklyn wrote:
Not entirely un-expected going on RFL past reputation. after all she was proberbly the only one with the ready cash to turn the club around. could be one of these who are owed money saying they will write off the debt if they get charge of the club. then first thing that goes wrong they will want the money back, and the club will be back at square one. the whole situation has become one big farce, but after all it is the RFL we are talking about.
Don't let the fact that the RFL are in no way involved in the administrator getting the best deal for creditors cloud your judgement.

The RFL might be at fault for some things but they are nothing to do with this.

This is probably how Moore's first bid was accepted as £500k of future money was going to be used to buy the club and pay off some creditors to edge out the other bids.

This time it might be Marc Green who says his £250k will be paid and a little more to others meaning anyone else will have to come in with well over £250k to get close to his bid.

At the end of the day, Marc Green is probably the last person anyone would want taking over the club but due deals Whitcut got involved in he has been put in the prime seats for a takeover, and his takeover might just be asset stripping to get his money back.

Once again, this is a disaster and I can see little hope.
I did say last week that this could be the case- buy the club and get your money back in 1 fell swoop-ie it owes me money, I'll take the club & any assets instead. Can't see this guy investing in us. Goodbye Superleague. Goodbye Bulls
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]franklyn[/bold] wrote: Not entirely un-expected going on RFL past reputation. after all she was proberbly the only one with the ready cash to turn the club around. could be one of these who are owed money saying they will write off the debt if they get charge of the club. then first thing that goes wrong they will want the money back, and the club will be back at square one. the whole situation has become one big farce, but after all it is the RFL we are talking about.[/p][/quote]Don't let the fact that the RFL are in no way involved in the administrator getting the best deal for creditors cloud your judgement. The RFL might be at fault for some things but they are nothing to do with this. This is probably how Moore's first bid was accepted as £500k of future money was going to be used to buy the club and pay off some creditors to edge out the other bids. This time it might be Marc Green who says his £250k will be paid and a little more to others meaning anyone else will have to come in with well over £250k to get close to his bid. At the end of the day, Marc Green is probably the last person anyone would want taking over the club but due deals Whitcut got involved in he has been put in the prime seats for a takeover, and his takeover might just be asset stripping to get his money back. Once again, this is a disaster and I can see little hope.[/p][/quote]I did say last week that this could be the case- buy the club and get your money back in 1 fell swoop-ie it owes me money, I'll take the club & any assets instead. Can't see this guy investing in us. Goodbye Superleague. Goodbye Bulls Videoref
  • Score: 7

1:36pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Videoref says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Ryanbulls wrote:
Could be the best option out of them all . I can only see Marc Green outbidding her becuase the bid is for the debt that the bulls have, and the debt is owed to Marc Green. If he Wipes the debt and then brings on Many Koukash for a stake in the club she can provide the investment to the playing squad and publicity. I believe this is the best option and one that safeguards us to that all important goal of staying up this season and then getting us that full sky money for the next where we can challenge the top 8. #COYB
I like your optomistic outlook, even after years of being kicked in the balls you still see the best in everything.

I think the truth is this is the best deal for the creditors but the worst deal for the club. Where has £250k owed to Marc Green come from, it was initially qutoed as £150k, did Whitcut sign up to a 2000% APR loan?
Maybe Provident Credit were involved lol
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ryanbulls[/bold] wrote: Could be the best option out of them all . I can only see Marc Green outbidding her becuase the bid is for the debt that the bulls have, and the debt is owed to Marc Green. If he Wipes the debt and then brings on Many Koukash for a stake in the club she can provide the investment to the playing squad and publicity. I believe this is the best option and one that safeguards us to that all important goal of staying up this season and then getting us that full sky money for the next where we can challenge the top 8. #COYB[/p][/quote]I like your optomistic outlook, even after years of being kicked in the balls you still see the best in everything. I think the truth is this is the best deal for the creditors but the worst deal for the club. Where has £250k owed to Marc Green come from, it was initially qutoed as £150k, did Whitcut sign up to a 2000% APR loan?[/p][/quote]Maybe Provident Credit were involved lol Videoref
  • Score: 7

1:44pm Tue 18 Mar 14

park bantam says...

Seems to me this is good news for the Bulls. The debenture holder gets his money back. And sells the club on or joins with others to take it forward. I just wish people could have the foresight to Bring the Bulls to Valley parade and to be accepted there
Seems to me this is good news for the Bulls. The debenture holder gets his money back. And sells the club on or joins with others to take it forward. I just wish people could have the foresight to Bring the Bulls to Valley parade and to be accepted there park bantam
  • Score: -7

1:46pm Tue 18 Mar 14

collos25 says...

Mosque,housing it not good news
Mosque,housing it not good news collos25
  • Score: 2

1:46pm Tue 18 Mar 14

collos25 says...

Mosque,housing it not good news
Mosque,housing it not good news collos25
  • Score: 1

1:49pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Mike Strutter says...

Lamb
Lamb Mike Strutter
  • Score: 2

1:49pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Van Bellen's Baby says...

The level of discussion today is truly dreadful - and that's saying something for this forum! Can those who feel the urge to get into a slanging match every time somebody posts something they don't agree with bear in mind that you are contributing more heat than light and it's boring! We are mostly Bulls fans on this site and might consider a more constructive dialogue that doesn't resort to personal abuse - the worst of which, in my opinion, is by those who like to assert some sort of intellectual superiority. Grow up!
The level of discussion today is truly dreadful - and that's saying something for this forum! Can those who feel the urge to get into a slanging match every time somebody posts something they don't agree with bear in mind that you are contributing more heat than light and it's boring! We are mostly Bulls fans on this site and might consider a more constructive dialogue that doesn't resort to personal abuse - the worst of which, in my opinion, is by those who like to assert some sort of intellectual superiority. Grow up! Van Bellen's Baby
  • Score: 17

1:50pm Tue 18 Mar 14

franklyn says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
franklyn wrote:
Not entirely un-expected going on RFL past reputation. after all she was proberbly the only one with the ready cash to turn the club around. could be one of these who are owed money saying they will write off the debt if they get charge of the club. then first thing that goes wrong they will want the money back, and the club will be back at square one. the whole situation has become one big farce, but after all it is the RFL we are talking about.
Don't let the fact that the RFL are in no way involved in the administrator getting the best deal for creditors cloud your judgement.

The RFL might be at fault for some things but they are nothing to do with this.

This is probably how Moore's first bid was accepted as £500k of future money was going to be used to buy the club and pay off some creditors to edge out the other bids.

This time it might be Marc Green who says his £250k will be paid and a little more to others meaning anyone else will have to come in with well over £250k to get close to his bid.

At the end of the day, Marc Green is probably the last person anyone would want taking over the club but due deals Whitcut got involved in he has been put in the prime seats for a takeover, and his takeover might just be asset stripping to get his money back.

Once again, this is a disaster and I can see little hope.
and you really believe RFL have no say in who gets the deal. oh well.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]franklyn[/bold] wrote: Not entirely un-expected going on RFL past reputation. after all she was proberbly the only one with the ready cash to turn the club around. could be one of these who are owed money saying they will write off the debt if they get charge of the club. then first thing that goes wrong they will want the money back, and the club will be back at square one. the whole situation has become one big farce, but after all it is the RFL we are talking about.[/p][/quote]Don't let the fact that the RFL are in no way involved in the administrator getting the best deal for creditors cloud your judgement. The RFL might be at fault for some things but they are nothing to do with this. This is probably how Moore's first bid was accepted as £500k of future money was going to be used to buy the club and pay off some creditors to edge out the other bids. This time it might be Marc Green who says his £250k will be paid and a little more to others meaning anyone else will have to come in with well over £250k to get close to his bid. At the end of the day, Marc Green is probably the last person anyone would want taking over the club but due deals Whitcut got involved in he has been put in the prime seats for a takeover, and his takeover might just be asset stripping to get his money back. Once again, this is a disaster and I can see little hope.[/p][/quote]and you really believe RFL have no say in who gets the deal. oh well. franklyn
  • Score: 2

2:10pm Tue 18 Mar 14

MeccaBingo1 says...

£250000 Green Loan

£177000 HMRC Tax still unpaid

£200000 Council Loan

£???? RFL input

+ Normal supplier debt

Cannot see anyone willing to pay them all!

One way forward is to fold and call it a day.

All other bids are not for the good of the club/rugby
£250000 Green Loan £177000 HMRC Tax still unpaid £200000 Council Loan £???? RFL input + Normal supplier debt Cannot see anyone willing to pay them all! One way forward is to fold and call it a day. All other bids are not for the good of the club/rugby MeccaBingo1
  • Score: 8

2:11pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Sad bull says...

franklyn wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
franklyn wrote:
Not entirely un-expected going on RFL past reputation. after all she was proberbly the only one with the ready cash to turn the club around. could be one of these who are owed money saying they will write off the debt if they get charge of the club. then first thing that goes wrong they will want the money back, and the club will be back at square one. the whole situation has become one big farce, but after all it is the RFL we are talking about.
Don't let the fact that the RFL are in no way involved in the administrator getting the best deal for creditors cloud your judgement.

The RFL might be at fault for some things but they are nothing to do with this.

This is probably how Moore's first bid was accepted as £500k of future money was going to be used to buy the club and pay off some creditors to edge out the other bids.

This time it might be Marc Green who says his £250k will be paid and a little more to others meaning anyone else will have to come in with well over £250k to get close to his bid.

At the end of the day, Marc Green is probably the last person anyone would want taking over the club but due deals Whitcut got involved in he has been put in the prime seats for a takeover, and his takeover might just be asset stripping to get his money back.

Once again, this is a disaster and I can see little hope.
and you really believe RFL have no say in who gets the deal. oh well.
Of course RFL will ultimately decide if the person who has made the highest bid also has a business plan which will gain them a super league licence. As we have seen before, this may well come with strings attached.

A lot of speculation on here about who the successful bidder is but the truth is we don't know.

They really do need to get a move on though as right now it is tough being a Bulls supporter.
[quote][p][bold]franklyn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]franklyn[/bold] wrote: Not entirely un-expected going on RFL past reputation. after all she was proberbly the only one with the ready cash to turn the club around. could be one of these who are owed money saying they will write off the debt if they get charge of the club. then first thing that goes wrong they will want the money back, and the club will be back at square one. the whole situation has become one big farce, but after all it is the RFL we are talking about.[/p][/quote]Don't let the fact that the RFL are in no way involved in the administrator getting the best deal for creditors cloud your judgement. The RFL might be at fault for some things but they are nothing to do with this. This is probably how Moore's first bid was accepted as £500k of future money was going to be used to buy the club and pay off some creditors to edge out the other bids. This time it might be Marc Green who says his £250k will be paid and a little more to others meaning anyone else will have to come in with well over £250k to get close to his bid. At the end of the day, Marc Green is probably the last person anyone would want taking over the club but due deals Whitcut got involved in he has been put in the prime seats for a takeover, and his takeover might just be asset stripping to get his money back. Once again, this is a disaster and I can see little hope.[/p][/quote]and you really believe RFL have no say in who gets the deal. oh well.[/p][/quote]Of course RFL will ultimately decide if the person who has made the highest bid also has a business plan which will gain them a super league licence. As we have seen before, this may well come with strings attached. A lot of speculation on here about who the successful bidder is but the truth is we don't know. They really do need to get a move on though as right now it is tough being a Bulls supporter. Sad bull
  • Score: 6

2:14pm Tue 18 Mar 14

THEMANOFSTEEL says...

Regardless of what happens this season
if we finish bottom and lose every remaining game who cares I can honestly say I have enjoyed watching them in the super league
if its time to go down and try and get promoted them so be it
Bradford till I die!!!
Regardless of what happens this season if we finish bottom and lose every remaining game who cares I can honestly say I have enjoyed watching them in the super league if its time to go down and try and get promoted them so be it Bradford till I die!!! THEMANOFSTEEL
  • Score: 8

2:16pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

franklyn wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
franklyn wrote: Not entirely un-expected going on RFL past reputation. after all she was proberbly the only one with the ready cash to turn the club around. could be one of these who are owed money saying they will write off the debt if they get charge of the club. then first thing that goes wrong they will want the money back, and the club will be back at square one. the whole situation has become one big farce, but after all it is the RFL we are talking about.
Don't let the fact that the RFL are in no way involved in the administrator getting the best deal for creditors cloud your judgement. The RFL might be at fault for some things but they are nothing to do with this. This is probably how Moore's first bid was accepted as £500k of future money was going to be used to buy the club and pay off some creditors to edge out the other bids. This time it might be Marc Green who says his £250k will be paid and a little more to others meaning anyone else will have to come in with well over £250k to get close to his bid. At the end of the day, Marc Green is probably the last person anyone would want taking over the club but due deals Whitcut got involved in he has been put in the prime seats for a takeover, and his takeover might just be asset stripping to get his money back. Once again, this is a disaster and I can see little hope.
and you really believe RFL have no say in who gets the deal. oh well.
The administrator approves the bid. It is then when the RFL step in and verify the bid.

The administrator's job is to work on behalf of the creditors and secure the best deal for them. The RFL's job should be securing the best future for the club.

These two don't tie in though.

For example if Mandy offers £200k and then is willing to pump £3m in once the club is out of admin the administrator only sees the £200k.

If someone else came in and said I'm going to pay £300k but then hasn't a pot to pee in in the administrator's eyes this is the better bid as more of the creditors get paid out.

This is the problem here. The best bid to the administrator is not the best bid to take the club forward and the best bid to take the club forward isn't the best bid for the creditors.

If Marc Green's intention was to asset strip and walk away then I guess he would not be approved by the RFL due to the fact he can offer no business plan going forward, where this would leave the other bids I don't know.

At this stage the RFL have no say, they do in the long run but not now.
[quote][p][bold]franklyn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]franklyn[/bold] wrote: Not entirely un-expected going on RFL past reputation. after all she was proberbly the only one with the ready cash to turn the club around. could be one of these who are owed money saying they will write off the debt if they get charge of the club. then first thing that goes wrong they will want the money back, and the club will be back at square one. the whole situation has become one big farce, but after all it is the RFL we are talking about.[/p][/quote]Don't let the fact that the RFL are in no way involved in the administrator getting the best deal for creditors cloud your judgement. The RFL might be at fault for some things but they are nothing to do with this. This is probably how Moore's first bid was accepted as £500k of future money was going to be used to buy the club and pay off some creditors to edge out the other bids. This time it might be Marc Green who says his £250k will be paid and a little more to others meaning anyone else will have to come in with well over £250k to get close to his bid. At the end of the day, Marc Green is probably the last person anyone would want taking over the club but due deals Whitcut got involved in he has been put in the prime seats for a takeover, and his takeover might just be asset stripping to get his money back. Once again, this is a disaster and I can see little hope.[/p][/quote]and you really believe RFL have no say in who gets the deal. oh well.[/p][/quote]The administrator approves the bid. It is then when the RFL step in and verify the bid. The administrator's job is to work on behalf of the creditors and secure the best deal for them. The RFL's job should be securing the best future for the club. These two don't tie in though. For example if Mandy offers £200k and then is willing to pump £3m in once the club is out of admin the administrator only sees the £200k. If someone else came in and said I'm going to pay £300k but then hasn't a pot to pee in in the administrator's eyes this is the better bid as more of the creditors get paid out. This is the problem here. The best bid to the administrator is not the best bid to take the club forward and the best bid to take the club forward isn't the best bid for the creditors. If Marc Green's intention was to asset strip and walk away then I guess he would not be approved by the RFL due to the fact he can offer no business plan going forward, where this would leave the other bids I don't know. At this stage the RFL have no say, they do in the long run but not now. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 10

2:17pm Tue 18 Mar 14

spanglishbull.uk says...

I assume the Administrator has told Mrs Koukash she has not been successful with her bid.I therefore assume that the decision has been reached who has been successful.If that is the case,why not announce it.Do they not think that the Bulls staff,players and supporters deserve to be put in the picture as soon as possible.? After all this weekend will be the sixth game of the season.In any other sport this situation would have been done and dusted weeks ago.The sport of Rugby League is a laughing stock.Is it any wonder that mainline press gives it hardly any coverage.One thing I am pretty confident about is that the present Board at the RFL will be removed from office shortly.I am pretty sure the Chairmen of the Super League clubs have now come to realise that this present lot are not fit for purpose.And before anybody says the RFL have nothing to do with this decision,open your eyes,of course they have.They can not deal with one Koukash,imagine them trying to deal with two.
I assume the Administrator has told Mrs Koukash she has not been successful with her bid.I therefore assume that the decision has been reached who has been successful.If that is the case,why not announce it.Do they not think that the Bulls staff,players and supporters deserve to be put in the picture as soon as possible.? After all this weekend will be the sixth game of the season.In any other sport this situation would have been done and dusted weeks ago.The sport of Rugby League is a laughing stock.Is it any wonder that mainline press gives it hardly any coverage.One thing I am pretty confident about is that the present Board at the RFL will be removed from office shortly.I am pretty sure the Chairmen of the Super League clubs have now come to realise that this present lot are not fit for purpose.And before anybody says the RFL have nothing to do with this decision,open your eyes,of course they have.They can not deal with one Koukash,imagine them trying to deal with two. spanglishbull.uk
  • Score: 11

2:21pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Bone_idle18 says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
franklyn wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
franklyn wrote: Not entirely un-expected going on RFL past reputation. after all she was proberbly the only one with the ready cash to turn the club around. could be one of these who are owed money saying they will write off the debt if they get charge of the club. then first thing that goes wrong they will want the money back, and the club will be back at square one. the whole situation has become one big farce, but after all it is the RFL we are talking about.
Don't let the fact that the RFL are in no way involved in the administrator getting the best deal for creditors cloud your judgement. The RFL might be at fault for some things but they are nothing to do with this. This is probably how Moore's first bid was accepted as £500k of future money was going to be used to buy the club and pay off some creditors to edge out the other bids. This time it might be Marc Green who says his £250k will be paid and a little more to others meaning anyone else will have to come in with well over £250k to get close to his bid. At the end of the day, Marc Green is probably the last person anyone would want taking over the club but due deals Whitcut got involved in he has been put in the prime seats for a takeover, and his takeover might just be asset stripping to get his money back. Once again, this is a disaster and I can see little hope.
and you really believe RFL have no say in who gets the deal. oh well.
The administrator approves the bid. It is then when the RFL step in and verify the bid.

The administrator's job is to work on behalf of the creditors and secure the best deal for them. The RFL's job should be securing the best future for the club.

These two don't tie in though.

For example if Mandy offers £200k and then is willing to pump £3m in once the club is out of admin the administrator only sees the £200k.

If someone else came in and said I'm going to pay £300k but then hasn't a pot to pee in in the administrator's eyes this is the better bid as more of the creditors get paid out.

This is the problem here. The best bid to the administrator is not the best bid to take the club forward and the best bid to take the club forward isn't the best bid for the creditors.

If Marc Green's intention was to asset strip and walk away then I guess he would not be approved by the RFL due to the fact he can offer no business plan going forward, where this would leave the other bids I don't know.

At this stage the RFL have no say, they do in the long run but not now.
Think you've hit the nail on the head there. The conflict of interest between the Administrator and the RFL is worrying.

Ideally, you'd hope that the Administrator would know that any deal that can't be ratified by the RFL will fail, so it should be in his best interest to reach the best compromise. no point getting a buyer to pay all creditors, if the RFL won't allow it, but if one agrees to pay most and has a plan for the future, that has to be the administrators best option hasn't it?

No idea how this thing works to be honest.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]franklyn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]franklyn[/bold] wrote: Not entirely un-expected going on RFL past reputation. after all she was proberbly the only one with the ready cash to turn the club around. could be one of these who are owed money saying they will write off the debt if they get charge of the club. then first thing that goes wrong they will want the money back, and the club will be back at square one. the whole situation has become one big farce, but after all it is the RFL we are talking about.[/p][/quote]Don't let the fact that the RFL are in no way involved in the administrator getting the best deal for creditors cloud your judgement. The RFL might be at fault for some things but they are nothing to do with this. This is probably how Moore's first bid was accepted as £500k of future money was going to be used to buy the club and pay off some creditors to edge out the other bids. This time it might be Marc Green who says his £250k will be paid and a little more to others meaning anyone else will have to come in with well over £250k to get close to his bid. At the end of the day, Marc Green is probably the last person anyone would want taking over the club but due deals Whitcut got involved in he has been put in the prime seats for a takeover, and his takeover might just be asset stripping to get his money back. Once again, this is a disaster and I can see little hope.[/p][/quote]and you really believe RFL have no say in who gets the deal. oh well.[/p][/quote]The administrator approves the bid. It is then when the RFL step in and verify the bid. The administrator's job is to work on behalf of the creditors and secure the best deal for them. The RFL's job should be securing the best future for the club. These two don't tie in though. For example if Mandy offers £200k and then is willing to pump £3m in once the club is out of admin the administrator only sees the £200k. If someone else came in and said I'm going to pay £300k but then hasn't a pot to pee in in the administrator's eyes this is the better bid as more of the creditors get paid out. This is the problem here. The best bid to the administrator is not the best bid to take the club forward and the best bid to take the club forward isn't the best bid for the creditors. If Marc Green's intention was to asset strip and walk away then I guess he would not be approved by the RFL due to the fact he can offer no business plan going forward, where this would leave the other bids I don't know. At this stage the RFL have no say, they do in the long run but not now.[/p][/quote]Think you've hit the nail on the head there. The conflict of interest between the Administrator and the RFL is worrying. Ideally, you'd hope that the Administrator would know that any deal that can't be ratified by the RFL will fail, so it should be in his best interest to reach the best compromise. no point getting a buyer to pay all creditors, if the RFL won't allow it, but if one agrees to pay most and has a plan for the future, that has to be the administrators best option hasn't it? No idea how this thing works to be honest. Bone_idle18
  • Score: 6

2:24pm Tue 18 Mar 14

MrQuinque says...

I think it might be time to give up on the comedy show that is the Bradford Bulls and Start over with a Bradford Northern Phoenix club. No debts, no stupid name, play at Valley parade let them work their way back into SuperLeague.
I think it might be time to give up on the comedy show that is the Bradford Bulls and Start over with a Bradford Northern Phoenix club. No debts, no stupid name, play at Valley parade let them work their way back into SuperLeague. MrQuinque
  • Score: 1

2:43pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Van Bellen's Baby says...

MrQuinque wrote:
I think it might be time to give up on the comedy show that is the Bradford Bulls and Start over with a Bradford Northern Phoenix club. No debts, no stupid name, play at Valley parade let them work their way back into SuperLeague.
I had a look ahead at the fixture list and it looks tough. We need maximum points from the next two games, HKR and Widnes respectively because after that it is: Leeds, Wigan, Wire, Saints and Catalans (who can't remain where they are in the table can they?). Which means that come the first week in June, when we get to face Wakey again, we could be stuck on 2 points with only 12 or so fixtures remaining. The saving grace is that it is still relatively early in the season, but something needs to happen soon for sure.
[quote][p][bold]MrQuinque[/bold] wrote: I think it might be time to give up on the comedy show that is the Bradford Bulls and Start over with a Bradford Northern Phoenix club. No debts, no stupid name, play at Valley parade let them work their way back into SuperLeague.[/p][/quote]I had a look ahead at the fixture list and it looks tough. We need maximum points from the next two games, HKR and Widnes respectively because after that it is: Leeds, Wigan, Wire, Saints and Catalans (who can't remain where they are in the table can they?). Which means that come the first week in June, when we get to face Wakey again, we could be stuck on 2 points with only 12 or so fixtures remaining. The saving grace is that it is still relatively early in the season, but something needs to happen soon for sure. Van Bellen's Baby
  • Score: 7

2:44pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Bone_idle18 says...

MrQuinque wrote:
I think it might be time to give up on the comedy show that is the Bradford Bulls and Start over with a Bradford Northern Phoenix club. No debts, no stupid name, play at Valley parade let them work their way back into SuperLeague.
where in the League would the RFL place them I wonder? If it was down a division, and we could retain a few players, we could push for promotion in a few years, but on a more stable financial footing!
[quote][p][bold]MrQuinque[/bold] wrote: I think it might be time to give up on the comedy show that is the Bradford Bulls and Start over with a Bradford Northern Phoenix club. No debts, no stupid name, play at Valley parade let them work their way back into SuperLeague.[/p][/quote]where in the League would the RFL place them I wonder? If it was down a division, and we could retain a few players, we could push for promotion in a few years, but on a more stable financial footing! Bone_idle18
  • Score: 10

3:00pm Tue 18 Mar 14

spanglishbull.uk says...

How,s this for a scenario.Bulls fold,Koukash pulls plug on Salford.Everybody happy at Red Hall.London and Catalan saved.Don,t laugh,quite a possibility.We are now a small sport in a small pond run by small minded amateurs.
How,s this for a scenario.Bulls fold,Koukash pulls plug on Salford.Everybody happy at Red Hall.London and Catalan saved.Don,t laugh,quite a possibility.We are now a small sport in a small pond run by small minded amateurs. spanglishbull.uk
  • Score: 10

3:09pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Leagueman says...

Van Bellen's Baby wrote:
The level of discussion today is truly dreadful - and that's saying something for this forum! Can those who feel the urge to get into a slanging match every time somebody posts something they don't agree with bear in mind that you are contributing more heat than light and it's boring! We are mostly Bulls fans on this site and might consider a more constructive dialogue that doesn't resort to personal abuse - the worst of which, in my opinion, is by those who like to assert some sort of intellectual superiority. Grow up!
Well said.
It just fills space and takes time to go through genuinely constructive points.
We all get offended sometimes but let it pass and Don't get upset that is the best line of argument.
[quote][p][bold]Van Bellen's Baby[/bold] wrote: The level of discussion today is truly dreadful - and that's saying something for this forum! Can those who feel the urge to get into a slanging match every time somebody posts something they don't agree with bear in mind that you are contributing more heat than light and it's boring! We are mostly Bulls fans on this site and might consider a more constructive dialogue that doesn't resort to personal abuse - the worst of which, in my opinion, is by those who like to assert some sort of intellectual superiority. Grow up![/p][/quote]Well said. It just fills space and takes time to go through genuinely constructive points. We all get offended sometimes but let it pass and Don't get upset that is the best line of argument. Leagueman
  • Score: 7

3:12pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Mike Strutter says...

Sad bull wrote:
franklyn wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
franklyn wrote:
Not entirely un-expected going on RFL past reputation. after all she was proberbly the only one with the ready cash to turn the club around. could be one of these who are owed money saying they will write off the debt if they get charge of the club. then first thing that goes wrong they will want the money back, and the club will be back at square one. the whole situation has become one big farce, but after all it is the RFL we are talking about.
Don't let the fact that the RFL are in no way involved in the administrator getting the best deal for creditors cloud your judgement.

The RFL might be at fault for some things but they are nothing to do with this.

This is probably how Moore's first bid was accepted as £500k of future money was going to be used to buy the club and pay off some creditors to edge out the other bids.

This time it might be Marc Green who says his £250k will be paid and a little more to others meaning anyone else will have to come in with well over £250k to get close to his bid.

At the end of the day, Marc Green is probably the last person anyone would want taking over the club but due deals Whitcut got involved in he has been put in the prime seats for a takeover, and his takeover might just be asset stripping to get his money back.

Once again, this is a disaster and I can see little hope.
and you really believe RFL have no say in who gets the deal. oh well.
Of course RFL will ultimately decide if the person who has made the highest bid also has a business plan which will gain them a super league licence. As we have seen before, this may well come with strings attached.

A lot of speculation on here about who the successful bidder is but the truth is we don't know.

They really do need to get a move on though as right now it is tough being a Bulls supporter.
I've told you who it is :-0
[quote][p][bold]Sad bull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]franklyn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]franklyn[/bold] wrote: Not entirely un-expected going on RFL past reputation. after all she was proberbly the only one with the ready cash to turn the club around. could be one of these who are owed money saying they will write off the debt if they get charge of the club. then first thing that goes wrong they will want the money back, and the club will be back at square one. the whole situation has become one big farce, but after all it is the RFL we are talking about.[/p][/quote]Don't let the fact that the RFL are in no way involved in the administrator getting the best deal for creditors cloud your judgement. The RFL might be at fault for some things but they are nothing to do with this. This is probably how Moore's first bid was accepted as £500k of future money was going to be used to buy the club and pay off some creditors to edge out the other bids. This time it might be Marc Green who says his £250k will be paid and a little more to others meaning anyone else will have to come in with well over £250k to get close to his bid. At the end of the day, Marc Green is probably the last person anyone would want taking over the club but due deals Whitcut got involved in he has been put in the prime seats for a takeover, and his takeover might just be asset stripping to get his money back. Once again, this is a disaster and I can see little hope.[/p][/quote]and you really believe RFL have no say in who gets the deal. oh well.[/p][/quote]Of course RFL will ultimately decide if the person who has made the highest bid also has a business plan which will gain them a super league licence. As we have seen before, this may well come with strings attached. A lot of speculation on here about who the successful bidder is but the truth is we don't know. They really do need to get a move on though as right now it is tough being a Bulls supporter.[/p][/quote]I've told you who it is :-0 Mike Strutter
  • Score: -1

3:15pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Bone_idle18 says...

Leagueman wrote:
Van Bellen's Baby wrote:
The level of discussion today is truly dreadful - and that's saying something for this forum! Can those who feel the urge to get into a slanging match every time somebody posts something they don't agree with bear in mind that you are contributing more heat than light and it's boring! We are mostly Bulls fans on this site and might consider a more constructive dialogue that doesn't resort to personal abuse - the worst of which, in my opinion, is by those who like to assert some sort of intellectual superiority. Grow up!
Well said.
It just fills space and takes time to go through genuinely constructive points.
We all get offended sometimes but let it pass and Don't get upset that is the best line of argument.
agreed, plenty of good points being made, but hard to see wood for the trees!

Still, it can be hard not to react to the trolls occasionally. (Halifax/Leeds/BCFC fans who want to stick their oar in and stir things a bit). Best to ignore them though.
[quote][p][bold]Leagueman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Van Bellen's Baby[/bold] wrote: The level of discussion today is truly dreadful - and that's saying something for this forum! Can those who feel the urge to get into a slanging match every time somebody posts something they don't agree with bear in mind that you are contributing more heat than light and it's boring! We are mostly Bulls fans on this site and might consider a more constructive dialogue that doesn't resort to personal abuse - the worst of which, in my opinion, is by those who like to assert some sort of intellectual superiority. Grow up![/p][/quote]Well said. It just fills space and takes time to go through genuinely constructive points. We all get offended sometimes but let it pass and Don't get upset that is the best line of argument.[/p][/quote]agreed, plenty of good points being made, but hard to see wood for the trees! Still, it can be hard not to react to the trolls occasionally. (Halifax/Leeds/BCFC fans who want to stick their oar in and stir things a bit). Best to ignore them though. Bone_idle18
  • Score: 1

3:20pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Bone_idle18 says...

Mike Strutter wrote:
Sad bull wrote:
franklyn wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
franklyn wrote:
Not entirely un-expected going on RFL past reputation. after all she was proberbly the only one with the ready cash to turn the club around. could be one of these who are owed money saying they will write off the debt if they get charge of the club. then first thing that goes wrong they will want the money back, and the club will be back at square one. the whole situation has become one big farce, but after all it is the RFL we are talking about.
Don't let the fact that the RFL are in no way involved in the administrator getting the best deal for creditors cloud your judgement.

The RFL might be at fault for some things but they are nothing to do with this.

This is probably how Moore's first bid was accepted as £500k of future money was going to be used to buy the club and pay off some creditors to edge out the other bids.

This time it might be Marc Green who says his £250k will be paid and a little more to others meaning anyone else will have to come in with well over £250k to get close to his bid.

At the end of the day, Marc Green is probably the last person anyone would want taking over the club but due deals Whitcut got involved in he has been put in the prime seats for a takeover, and his takeover might just be asset stripping to get his money back.

Once again, this is a disaster and I can see little hope.
and you really believe RFL have no say in who gets the deal. oh well.
Of course RFL will ultimately decide if the person who has made the highest bid also has a business plan which will gain them a super league licence. As we have seen before, this may well come with strings attached.

A lot of speculation on here about who the successful bidder is but the truth is we don't know.

They really do need to get a move on though as right now it is tough being a Bulls supporter.
I've told you who it is :-0
If you're right it was my top choice before Mrs K came along.

He's a business man who has managed to make a success in London and he'll be able to attract investment (including Mr's K), It might not be so bad after all.
[quote][p][bold]Mike Strutter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sad bull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]franklyn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]franklyn[/bold] wrote: Not entirely un-expected going on RFL past reputation. after all she was proberbly the only one with the ready cash to turn the club around. could be one of these who are owed money saying they will write off the debt if they get charge of the club. then first thing that goes wrong they will want the money back, and the club will be back at square one. the whole situation has become one big farce, but after all it is the RFL we are talking about.[/p][/quote]Don't let the fact that the RFL are in no way involved in the administrator getting the best deal for creditors cloud your judgement. The RFL might be at fault for some things but they are nothing to do with this. This is probably how Moore's first bid was accepted as £500k of future money was going to be used to buy the club and pay off some creditors to edge out the other bids. This time it might be Marc Green who says his £250k will be paid and a little more to others meaning anyone else will have to come in with well over £250k to get close to his bid. At the end of the day, Marc Green is probably the last person anyone would want taking over the club but due deals Whitcut got involved in he has been put in the prime seats for a takeover, and his takeover might just be asset stripping to get his money back. Once again, this is a disaster and I can see little hope.[/p][/quote]and you really believe RFL have no say in who gets the deal. oh well.[/p][/quote]Of course RFL will ultimately decide if the person who has made the highest bid also has a business plan which will gain them a super league licence. As we have seen before, this may well come with strings attached. A lot of speculation on here about who the successful bidder is but the truth is we don't know. They really do need to get a move on though as right now it is tough being a Bulls supporter.[/p][/quote]I've told you who it is :-0[/p][/quote]If you're right it was my top choice before Mrs K came along. He's a business man who has managed to make a success in London and he'll be able to attract investment (including Mr's K), It might not be so bad after all. Bone_idle18
  • Score: -3

3:20pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Bowlingboy says...

Mike Strutter wrote:
Sad bull wrote:
franklyn wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
franklyn wrote:
Not entirely un-expected going on RFL past reputation. after all she was proberbly the only one with the ready cash to turn the club around. could be one of these who are owed money saying they will write off the debt if they get charge of the club. then first thing that goes wrong they will want the money back, and the club will be back at square one. the whole situation has become one big farce, but after all it is the RFL we are talking about.
Don't let the fact that the RFL are in no way involved in the administrator getting the best deal for creditors cloud your judgement.

The RFL might be at fault for some things but they are nothing to do with this.

This is probably how Moore's first bid was accepted as £500k of future money was going to be used to buy the club and pay off some creditors to edge out the other bids.

This time it might be Marc Green who says his £250k will be paid and a little more to others meaning anyone else will have to come in with well over £250k to get close to his bid.

At the end of the day, Marc Green is probably the last person anyone would want taking over the club but due deals Whitcut got involved in he has been put in the prime seats for a takeover, and his takeover might just be asset stripping to get his money back.

Once again, this is a disaster and I can see little hope.
and you really believe RFL have no say in who gets the deal. oh well.
Of course RFL will ultimately decide if the person who has made the highest bid also has a business plan which will gain them a super league licence. As we have seen before, this may well come with strings attached.

A lot of speculation on here about who the successful bidder is but the truth is we don't know.

They really do need to get a move on though as right now it is tough being a Bulls supporter.
I've told you who it is :-0
who?
[quote][p][bold]Mike Strutter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sad bull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]franklyn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]franklyn[/bold] wrote: Not entirely un-expected going on RFL past reputation. after all she was proberbly the only one with the ready cash to turn the club around. could be one of these who are owed money saying they will write off the debt if they get charge of the club. then first thing that goes wrong they will want the money back, and the club will be back at square one. the whole situation has become one big farce, but after all it is the RFL we are talking about.[/p][/quote]Don't let the fact that the RFL are in no way involved in the administrator getting the best deal for creditors cloud your judgement. The RFL might be at fault for some things but they are nothing to do with this. This is probably how Moore's first bid was accepted as £500k of future money was going to be used to buy the club and pay off some creditors to edge out the other bids. This time it might be Marc Green who says his £250k will be paid and a little more to others meaning anyone else will have to come in with well over £250k to get close to his bid. At the end of the day, Marc Green is probably the last person anyone would want taking over the club but due deals Whitcut got involved in he has been put in the prime seats for a takeover, and his takeover might just be asset stripping to get his money back. Once again, this is a disaster and I can see little hope.[/p][/quote]and you really believe RFL have no say in who gets the deal. oh well.[/p][/quote]Of course RFL will ultimately decide if the person who has made the highest bid also has a business plan which will gain them a super league licence. As we have seen before, this may well come with strings attached. A lot of speculation on here about who the successful bidder is but the truth is we don't know. They really do need to get a move on though as right now it is tough being a Bulls supporter.[/p][/quote]I've told you who it is :-0[/p][/quote]who? Bowlingboy
  • Score: 1

3:22pm Tue 18 Mar 14

cleckbull says...

Bone_idle18 wrote:
MrQuinque wrote:
I think it might be time to give up on the comedy show that is the Bradford Bulls and Start over with a Bradford Northern Phoenix club. No debts, no stupid name, play at Valley parade let them work their way back into SuperLeague.
where in the League would the RFL place them I wonder? If it was down a division, and we could retain a few players, we could push for promotion in a few years, but on a more stable financial footing!
What planet are you living on
Relegation is the last thing we want
We would lose all our players and it would be even harder to keep the club going with even less coming through the turnstiles
As fans of the club we should be only concerned with an owner who has the financial clout to invest in the team....just like other teams who are bankrolled along (eg Huddersfield who have no support)
Its just the same setup as these other clubs...if the financial backer pulls the plug they would be in trouble too
If this means the creditors lose out then so be it.....they were deals carried out with Omar Khan who has taken us back into this mess.

COYB
[quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrQuinque[/bold] wrote: I think it might be time to give up on the comedy show that is the Bradford Bulls and Start over with a Bradford Northern Phoenix club. No debts, no stupid name, play at Valley parade let them work their way back into SuperLeague.[/p][/quote]where in the League would the RFL place them I wonder? If it was down a division, and we could retain a few players, we could push for promotion in a few years, but on a more stable financial footing![/p][/quote]What planet are you living on Relegation is the last thing we want We would lose all our players and it would be even harder to keep the club going with even less coming through the turnstiles As fans of the club we should be only concerned with an owner who has the financial clout to invest in the team....just like other teams who are bankrolled along (eg Huddersfield who have no support) Its just the same setup as these other clubs...if the financial backer pulls the plug they would be in trouble too If this means the creditors lose out then so be it.....they were deals carried out with Omar Khan who has taken us back into this mess. COYB cleckbull
  • Score: 1

3:23pm Tue 18 Mar 14

spanglishbull.uk says...

Mike Strutter,if as you say it is Lamb,then you must know what he is bringing to the table.Let us all know please as we could be waiting another month from the amateurs at Red Hall
Mike Strutter,if as you say it is Lamb,then you must know what he is bringing to the table.Let us all know please as we could be waiting another month from the amateurs at Red Hall spanglishbull.uk
  • Score: 0

3:38pm Tue 18 Mar 14

axelf1963 says...

spanglishbull.uk wrote:
Mike Strutter,if as you say it is Lamb,then you must know what he is bringing to the table.Let us all know please as we could be waiting another month from the amateurs at Red Hall
Dont be nosey and ask your boyfriend Viking
[quote][p][bold]spanglishbull.uk[/bold] wrote: Mike Strutter,if as you say it is Lamb,then you must know what he is bringing to the table.Let us all know please as we could be waiting another month from the amateurs at Red Hall[/p][/quote]Dont be nosey and ask your boyfriend Viking axelf1963
  • Score: -1

3:42pm Tue 18 Mar 14

flashdonut says...

Unless of course Marc Green gets the club and sells to Marwan for £250 000. Everybody is happy.
Unless of course Marc Green gets the club and sells to Marwan for £250 000. Everybody is happy. flashdonut
  • Score: 3

3:46pm Tue 18 Mar 14

spanglishbull.uk says...

Will do Axelf
Will do Axelf spanglishbull.uk
  • Score: -1

3:52pm Tue 18 Mar 14

blue marlin says...

cleckbull wrote:
Bone_idle18 wrote:
MrQuinque wrote: I think it might be time to give up on the comedy show that is the Bradford Bulls and Start over with a Bradford Northern Phoenix club. No debts, no stupid name, play at Valley parade let them work their way back into SuperLeague.
where in the League would the RFL place them I wonder? If it was down a division, and we could retain a few players, we could push for promotion in a few years, but on a more stable financial footing!
What planet are you living on Relegation is the last thing we want We would lose all our players and it would be even harder to keep the club going with even less coming through the turnstiles As fans of the club we should be only concerned with an owner who has the financial clout to invest in the team....just like other teams who are bankrolled along (eg Huddersfield who have no support) Its just the same setup as these other clubs...if the financial backer pulls the plug they would be in trouble too If this means the creditors lose out then so be it.....they were deals carried out with Omar Khan who has taken us back into this mess. COYB
If you were a creditor and owed monies you may look at it from a diffrent view point.
I seem to remember that most people though that Ok and team were the best thing since sliced bread
look at us now
[quote][p][bold]cleckbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrQuinque[/bold] wrote: I think it might be time to give up on the comedy show that is the Bradford Bulls and Start over with a Bradford Northern Phoenix club. No debts, no stupid name, play at Valley parade let them work their way back into SuperLeague.[/p][/quote]where in the League would the RFL place them I wonder? If it was down a division, and we could retain a few players, we could push for promotion in a few years, but on a more stable financial footing![/p][/quote]What planet are you living on Relegation is the last thing we want We would lose all our players and it would be even harder to keep the club going with even less coming through the turnstiles As fans of the club we should be only concerned with an owner who has the financial clout to invest in the team....just like other teams who are bankrolled along (eg Huddersfield who have no support) Its just the same setup as these other clubs...if the financial backer pulls the plug they would be in trouble too If this means the creditors lose out then so be it.....they were deals carried out with Omar Khan who has taken us back into this mess. COYB[/p][/quote]If you were a creditor and owed monies you may look at it from a diffrent view point. I seem to remember that most people though that Ok and team were the best thing since sliced bread look at us now blue marlin
  • Score: 1

3:53pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Bone_idle18 says...

cleckbull wrote:
Bone_idle18 wrote:
MrQuinque wrote:
I think it might be time to give up on the comedy show that is the Bradford Bulls and Start over with a Bradford Northern Phoenix club. No debts, no stupid name, play at Valley parade let them work their way back into SuperLeague.
where in the League would the RFL place them I wonder? If it was down a division, and we could retain a few players, we could push for promotion in a few years, but on a more stable financial footing!
What planet are you living on
Relegation is the last thing we want
We would lose all our players and it would be even harder to keep the club going with even less coming through the turnstiles
As fans of the club we should be only concerned with an owner who has the financial clout to invest in the team....just like other teams who are bankrolled along (eg Huddersfield who have no support)
Its just the same setup as these other clubs...if the financial backer pulls the plug they would be in trouble too
If this means the creditors lose out then so be it.....they were deals carried out with Omar Khan who has taken us back into this mess.

COYB
After the downs and downs of the past few years, a drop in division and actually having a stable club would be very appealing. build from the bottom rather than one sticking plaster owner after another. Who wants to be stuck in an endless cycle of failed takeovers, financial troubles and administration?
[quote][p][bold]cleckbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrQuinque[/bold] wrote: I think it might be time to give up on the comedy show that is the Bradford Bulls and Start over with a Bradford Northern Phoenix club. No debts, no stupid name, play at Valley parade let them work their way back into SuperLeague.[/p][/quote]where in the League would the RFL place them I wonder? If it was down a division, and we could retain a few players, we could push for promotion in a few years, but on a more stable financial footing![/p][/quote]What planet are you living on Relegation is the last thing we want We would lose all our players and it would be even harder to keep the club going with even less coming through the turnstiles As fans of the club we should be only concerned with an owner who has the financial clout to invest in the team....just like other teams who are bankrolled along (eg Huddersfield who have no support) Its just the same setup as these other clubs...if the financial backer pulls the plug they would be in trouble too If this means the creditors lose out then so be it.....they were deals carried out with Omar Khan who has taken us back into this mess. COYB[/p][/quote]After the downs and downs of the past few years, a drop in division and actually having a stable club would be very appealing. build from the bottom rather than one sticking plaster owner after another. Who wants to be stuck in an endless cycle of failed takeovers, financial troubles and administration? Bone_idle18
  • Score: 8

3:58pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Van Bellen's Baby says...

Bone_idle18 wrote:
Leagueman wrote:
Van Bellen's Baby wrote:
The level of discussion today is truly dreadful - and that's saying something for this forum! Can those who feel the urge to get into a slanging match every time somebody posts something they don't agree with bear in mind that you are contributing more heat than light and it's boring! We are mostly Bulls fans on this site and might consider a more constructive dialogue that doesn't resort to personal abuse - the worst of which, in my opinion, is by those who like to assert some sort of intellectual superiority. Grow up!
Well said.
It just fills space and takes time to go through genuinely constructive points.
We all get offended sometimes but let it pass and Don't get upset that is the best line of argument.
agreed, plenty of good points being made, but hard to see wood for the trees!

Still, it can be hard not to react to the trolls occasionally. (Halifax/Leeds/BCFC fans who want to stick their oar in and stir things a bit). Best to ignore them though.
That's right Bone Idle and perhaps if people used the thumbs up/down score to reflect the quality of the post, rather than just whether or not they agree with it, things might improve generally?
[quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Leagueman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Van Bellen's Baby[/bold] wrote: The level of discussion today is truly dreadful - and that's saying something for this forum! Can those who feel the urge to get into a slanging match every time somebody posts something they don't agree with bear in mind that you are contributing more heat than light and it's boring! We are mostly Bulls fans on this site and might consider a more constructive dialogue that doesn't resort to personal abuse - the worst of which, in my opinion, is by those who like to assert some sort of intellectual superiority. Grow up![/p][/quote]Well said. It just fills space and takes time to go through genuinely constructive points. We all get offended sometimes but let it pass and Don't get upset that is the best line of argument.[/p][/quote]agreed, plenty of good points being made, but hard to see wood for the trees! Still, it can be hard not to react to the trolls occasionally. (Halifax/Leeds/BCFC fans who want to stick their oar in and stir things a bit). Best to ignore them though.[/p][/quote]That's right Bone Idle and perhaps if people used the thumbs up/down score to reflect the quality of the post, rather than just whether or not they agree with it, things might improve generally? Van Bellen's Baby
  • Score: 0

3:59pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

blue marlin wrote:
cleckbull wrote:
Bone_idle18 wrote:
MrQuinque wrote: I think it might be time to give up on the comedy show that is the Bradford Bulls and Start over with a Bradford Northern Phoenix club. No debts, no stupid name, play at Valley parade let them work their way back into SuperLeague.
where in the League would the RFL place them I wonder? If it was down a division, and we could retain a few players, we could push for promotion in a few years, but on a more stable financial footing!
What planet are you living on Relegation is the last thing we want We would lose all our players and it would be even harder to keep the club going with even less coming through the turnstiles As fans of the club we should be only concerned with an owner who has the financial clout to invest in the team....just like other teams who are bankrolled along (eg Huddersfield who have no support) Its just the same setup as these other clubs...if the financial backer pulls the plug they would be in trouble too If this means the creditors lose out then so be it.....they were deals carried out with Omar Khan who has taken us back into this mess. COYB
If you were a creditor and owed monies you may look at it from a diffrent view point. I seem to remember that most people though that Ok and team were the best thing since sliced bread look at us now
I took loads of flack for saying Khan and Sutcliffe were running the ship towards the rocks.
[quote][p][bold]blue marlin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cleckbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrQuinque[/bold] wrote: I think it might be time to give up on the comedy show that is the Bradford Bulls and Start over with a Bradford Northern Phoenix club. No debts, no stupid name, play at Valley parade let them work their way back into SuperLeague.[/p][/quote]where in the League would the RFL place them I wonder? If it was down a division, and we could retain a few players, we could push for promotion in a few years, but on a more stable financial footing![/p][/quote]What planet are you living on Relegation is the last thing we want We would lose all our players and it would be even harder to keep the club going with even less coming through the turnstiles As fans of the club we should be only concerned with an owner who has the financial clout to invest in the team....just like other teams who are bankrolled along (eg Huddersfield who have no support) Its just the same setup as these other clubs...if the financial backer pulls the plug they would be in trouble too If this means the creditors lose out then so be it.....they were deals carried out with Omar Khan who has taken us back into this mess. COYB[/p][/quote]If you were a creditor and owed monies you may look at it from a diffrent view point. I seem to remember that most people though that Ok and team were the best thing since sliced bread look at us now[/p][/quote]I took loads of flack for saying Khan and Sutcliffe were running the ship towards the rocks. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 1

4:07pm Tue 18 Mar 14

cleckbull says...

Bone_idle18 wrote:
cleckbull wrote:
Bone_idle18 wrote:
MrQuinque wrote:
I think it might be time to give up on the comedy show that is the Bradford Bulls and Start over with a Bradford Northern Phoenix club. No debts, no stupid name, play at Valley parade let them work their way back into SuperLeague.
where in the League would the RFL place them I wonder? If it was down a division, and we could retain a few players, we could push for promotion in a few years, but on a more stable financial footing!
What planet are you living on
Relegation is the last thing we want
We would lose all our players and it would be even harder to keep the club going with even less coming through the turnstiles
As fans of the club we should be only concerned with an owner who has the financial clout to invest in the team....just like other teams who are bankrolled along (eg Huddersfield who have no support)
Its just the same setup as these other clubs...if the financial backer pulls the plug they would be in trouble too
If this means the creditors lose out then so be it.....they were deals carried out with Omar Khan who has taken us back into this mess.

COYB
After the downs and downs of the past few years, a drop in division and actually having a stable club would be very appealing. build from the bottom rather than one sticking plaster owner after another. Who wants to be stuck in an endless cycle of failed takeovers, financial troubles and administration?
You can think what you like but without a financial backer who loves rugby and is happy to throw money at the team to a certain extent we will never be competitive again....and that's less likely if we are struggling in the championship with no players
That's why we needed the Koukash's input...they are passionate about the game and would have put there money into the team
[quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cleckbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrQuinque[/bold] wrote: I think it might be time to give up on the comedy show that is the Bradford Bulls and Start over with a Bradford Northern Phoenix club. No debts, no stupid name, play at Valley parade let them work their way back into SuperLeague.[/p][/quote]where in the League would the RFL place them I wonder? If it was down a division, and we could retain a few players, we could push for promotion in a few years, but on a more stable financial footing![/p][/quote]What planet are you living on Relegation is the last thing we want We would lose all our players and it would be even harder to keep the club going with even less coming through the turnstiles As fans of the club we should be only concerned with an owner who has the financial clout to invest in the team....just like other teams who are bankrolled along (eg Huddersfield who have no support) Its just the same setup as these other clubs...if the financial backer pulls the plug they would be in trouble too If this means the creditors lose out then so be it.....they were deals carried out with Omar Khan who has taken us back into this mess. COYB[/p][/quote]After the downs and downs of the past few years, a drop in division and actually having a stable club would be very appealing. build from the bottom rather than one sticking plaster owner after another. Who wants to be stuck in an endless cycle of failed takeovers, financial troubles and administration?[/p][/quote]You can think what you like but without a financial backer who loves rugby and is happy to throw money at the team to a certain extent we will never be competitive again....and that's less likely if we are struggling in the championship with no players That's why we needed the Koukash's input...they are passionate about the game and would have put there money into the team cleckbull
  • Score: 5

4:14pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Bone_idle18 says...

cleckbull wrote:
Bone_idle18 wrote:
cleckbull wrote:
Bone_idle18 wrote:
MrQuinque wrote:
I think it might be time to give up on the comedy show that is the Bradford Bulls and Start over with a Bradford Northern Phoenix club. No debts, no stupid name, play at Valley parade let them work their way back into SuperLeague.
where in the League would the RFL place them I wonder? If it was down a division, and we could retain a few players, we could push for promotion in a few years, but on a more stable financial footing!
What planet are you living on
Relegation is the last thing we want
We would lose all our players and it would be even harder to keep the club going with even less coming through the turnstiles
As fans of the club we should be only concerned with an owner who has the financial clout to invest in the team....just like other teams who are bankrolled along (eg Huddersfield who have no support)
Its just the same setup as these other clubs...if the financial backer pulls the plug they would be in trouble too
If this means the creditors lose out then so be it.....they were deals carried out with Omar Khan who has taken us back into this mess.

COYB
After the downs and downs of the past few years, a drop in division and actually having a stable club would be very appealing. build from the bottom rather than one sticking plaster owner after another. Who wants to be stuck in an endless cycle of failed takeovers, financial troubles and administration?
You can think what you like but without a financial backer who loves rugby and is happy to throw money at the team to a certain extent we will never be competitive again....and that's less likely if we are struggling in the championship with no players
That's why we needed the Koukash's input...they are passionate about the game and would have put there money into the team
not saying we don't need them, but sometimes we need to look reality in the face.

all I'm saying is we can't carry on without a decent backer, 2-bit business men won't keep us in SL, so the only option to avoid disappearing completely might be to take a step back and regroup.
[quote][p][bold]cleckbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cleckbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrQuinque[/bold] wrote: I think it might be time to give up on the comedy show that is the Bradford Bulls and Start over with a Bradford Northern Phoenix club. No debts, no stupid name, play at Valley parade let them work their way back into SuperLeague.[/p][/quote]where in the League would the RFL place them I wonder? If it was down a division, and we could retain a few players, we could push for promotion in a few years, but on a more stable financial footing![/p][/quote]What planet are you living on Relegation is the last thing we want We would lose all our players and it would be even harder to keep the club going with even less coming through the turnstiles As fans of the club we should be only concerned with an owner who has the financial clout to invest in the team....just like other teams who are bankrolled along (eg Huddersfield who have no support) Its just the same setup as these other clubs...if the financial backer pulls the plug they would be in trouble too If this means the creditors lose out then so be it.....they were deals carried out with Omar Khan who has taken us back into this mess. COYB[/p][/quote]After the downs and downs of the past few years, a drop in division and actually having a stable club would be very appealing. build from the bottom rather than one sticking plaster owner after another. Who wants to be stuck in an endless cycle of failed takeovers, financial troubles and administration?[/p][/quote]You can think what you like but without a financial backer who loves rugby and is happy to throw money at the team to a certain extent we will never be competitive again....and that's less likely if we are struggling in the championship with no players That's why we needed the Koukash's input...they are passionate about the game and would have put there money into the team[/p][/quote]not saying we don't need them, but sometimes we need to look reality in the face. all I'm saying is we can't carry on without a decent backer, 2-bit business men won't keep us in SL, so the only option to avoid disappearing completely might be to take a step back and regroup. Bone_idle18
  • Score: -1

4:17pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Van Bellen's Baby wrote:
Bone_idle18 wrote:
Leagueman wrote:
Van Bellen's Baby wrote: The level of discussion today is truly dreadful - and that's saying something for this forum! Can those who feel the urge to get into a slanging match every time somebody posts something they don't agree with bear in mind that you are contributing more heat than light and it's boring! We are mostly Bulls fans on this site and might consider a more constructive dialogue that doesn't resort to personal abuse - the worst of which, in my opinion, is by those who like to assert some sort of intellectual superiority. Grow up!
Well said. It just fills space and takes time to go through genuinely constructive points. We all get offended sometimes but let it pass and Don't get upset that is the best line of argument.
agreed, plenty of good points being made, but hard to see wood for the trees! Still, it can be hard not to react to the trolls occasionally. (Halifax/Leeds/BCFC fans who want to stick their oar in and stir things a bit). Best to ignore them though.
That's right Bone Idle and perhaps if people used the thumbs up/down score to reflect the quality of the post, rather than just whether or not they agree with it, things might improve generally?
The thumbs down is mainly because they don't like the person who is putting across their opinion more often than not.

A decent debate back up with opinion and fact is usually rubbished by, you troll f off, which is return gets 10 thumbs up.
[quote][p][bold]Van Bellen's Baby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Leagueman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Van Bellen's Baby[/bold] wrote: The level of discussion today is truly dreadful - and that's saying something for this forum! Can those who feel the urge to get into a slanging match every time somebody posts something they don't agree with bear in mind that you are contributing more heat than light and it's boring! We are mostly Bulls fans on this site and might consider a more constructive dialogue that doesn't resort to personal abuse - the worst of which, in my opinion, is by those who like to assert some sort of intellectual superiority. Grow up![/p][/quote]Well said. It just fills space and takes time to go through genuinely constructive points. We all get offended sometimes but let it pass and Don't get upset that is the best line of argument.[/p][/quote]agreed, plenty of good points being made, but hard to see wood for the trees! Still, it can be hard not to react to the trolls occasionally. (Halifax/Leeds/BCFC fans who want to stick their oar in and stir things a bit). Best to ignore them though.[/p][/quote]That's right Bone Idle and perhaps if people used the thumbs up/down score to reflect the quality of the post, rather than just whether or not they agree with it, things might improve generally?[/p][/quote]The thumbs down is mainly because they don't like the person who is putting across their opinion more often than not. A decent debate back up with opinion and fact is usually rubbished by, you troll f off, which is return gets 10 thumbs up. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 2

4:25pm Tue 18 Mar 14

grafter1980 says...

cleckbull wrote:
Bone_idle18 wrote:
cleckbull wrote:
Bone_idle18 wrote:
MrQuinque wrote:
I think it might be time to give up on the comedy show that is the Bradford Bulls and Start over with a Bradford Northern Phoenix club. No debts, no stupid name, play at Valley parade let them work their way back into SuperLeague.
where in the League would the RFL place them I wonder? If it was down a division, and we could retain a few players, we could push for promotion in a few years, but on a more stable financial footing!
What planet are you living on
Relegation is the last thing we want
We would lose all our players and it would be even harder to keep the club going with even less coming through the turnstiles
As fans of the club we should be only concerned with an owner who has the financial clout to invest in the team....just like other teams who are bankrolled along (eg Huddersfield who have no support)
Its just the same setup as these other clubs...if the financial backer pulls the plug they would be in trouble too
If this means the creditors lose out then so be it.....they were deals carried out with Omar Khan who has taken us back into this mess.

COYB
After the downs and downs of the past few years, a drop in division and actually having a stable club would be very appealing. build from the bottom rather than one sticking plaster owner after another. Who wants to be stuck in an endless cycle of failed takeovers, financial troubles and administration?
You can think what you like but without a financial backer who loves rugby and is happy to throw money at the team to a certain extent we will never be competitive again....and that's less likely if we are struggling in the championship with no players
That's why we needed the Koukash's input...they are passionate about the game and would have put there money into the team
A multi million financial backer is not essential- see Widnes, Cas etc.

Omar Khan/ Gerry Sutcliffe takeover involved buying club with its' own money( why is this phrase only used in conjunction with Moore)

Then following that signing player we couldn't afford and spending money on concerts and foreign trips.

The current problems where easily avoidable if the financial position after the OK takeover had been accepted ( or even undertood). Business plan was built entirely on hope i.e.10k season ticket sale,please let us off the sky deduction we agreed to and begging for additional sponsorship.

Although TVOR may get under people's skin on here a bit, he is never abusive and he has been saying these things since the first games of last season.

What I find frustrating is how much venom is direct towards the like of Moore and RFL. Anything they have done pails into insignificance. Much of what Moore has done was also engaged in while Whitcut was on the scene!

With the support Bulls have regelation would not be the end. If in Championship you know those involved are there for the club not self promotion
[quote][p][bold]cleckbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cleckbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrQuinque[/bold] wrote: I think it might be time to give up on the comedy show that is the Bradford Bulls and Start over with a Bradford Northern Phoenix club. No debts, no stupid name, play at Valley parade let them work their way back into SuperLeague.[/p][/quote]where in the League would the RFL place them I wonder? If it was down a division, and we could retain a few players, we could push for promotion in a few years, but on a more stable financial footing![/p][/quote]What planet are you living on Relegation is the last thing we want We would lose all our players and it would be even harder to keep the club going with even less coming through the turnstiles As fans of the club we should be only concerned with an owner who has the financial clout to invest in the team....just like other teams who are bankrolled along (eg Huddersfield who have no support) Its just the same setup as these other clubs...if the financial backer pulls the plug they would be in trouble too If this means the creditors lose out then so be it.....they were deals carried out with Omar Khan who has taken us back into this mess. COYB[/p][/quote]After the downs and downs of the past few years, a drop in division and actually having a stable club would be very appealing. build from the bottom rather than one sticking plaster owner after another. Who wants to be stuck in an endless cycle of failed takeovers, financial troubles and administration?[/p][/quote]You can think what you like but without a financial backer who loves rugby and is happy to throw money at the team to a certain extent we will never be competitive again....and that's less likely if we are struggling in the championship with no players That's why we needed the Koukash's input...they are passionate about the game and would have put there money into the team[/p][/quote]A multi million financial backer is not essential- see Widnes, Cas etc. Omar Khan/ Gerry Sutcliffe takeover involved buying club with its' own money( why is this phrase only used in conjunction with Moore) Then following that signing player we couldn't afford and spending money on concerts and foreign trips. The current problems where easily avoidable if the financial position after the OK takeover had been accepted ( or even undertood). Business plan was built entirely on hope i.e.10k season ticket sale,please let us off the sky deduction we agreed to and begging for additional sponsorship. Although TVOR may get under people's skin on here a bit, he is never abusive and he has been saying these things since the first games of last season. What I find frustrating is how much venom is direct towards the like of Moore and RFL. Anything they have done pails into insignificance. Much of what Moore has done was also engaged in while Whitcut was on the scene! With the support Bulls have regelation would not be the end. If in Championship you know those involved are there for the club not self promotion grafter1980
  • Score: 4

4:33pm Tue 18 Mar 14

grafter1980 says...

MeccaBingo1 wrote:
£250000 Green Loan

£177000 HMRC Tax still unpaid

£200000 Council Loan

£???? RFL input

+ Normal supplier debt

Cannot see anyone willing to pay them all!

One way forward is to fold and call it a day.

All other bids are not for the good of the club/rugby
Mecca,Is that HMRC figure accurate?
[quote][p][bold]MeccaBingo1[/bold] wrote: £250000 Green Loan £177000 HMRC Tax still unpaid £200000 Council Loan £???? RFL input + Normal supplier debt Cannot see anyone willing to pay them all! One way forward is to fold and call it a day. All other bids are not for the good of the club/rugby[/p][/quote]Mecca,Is that HMRC figure accurate? grafter1980
  • Score: 1

5:00pm Tue 18 Mar 14

tinytoonster says...

Bone_idle18 wrote:
Leagueman wrote:
Van Bellen's Baby wrote:
The level of discussion today is truly dreadful - and that's saying something for this forum! Can those who feel the urge to get into a slanging match every time somebody posts something they don't agree with bear in mind that you are contributing more heat than light and it's boring! We are mostly Bulls fans on this site and might consider a more constructive dialogue that doesn't resort to personal abuse - the worst of which, in my opinion, is by those who like to assert some sort of intellectual superiority. Grow up!
Well said.
It just fills space and takes time to go through genuinely constructive points.
We all get offended sometimes but let it pass and Don't get upset that is the best line of argument.
agreed, plenty of good points being made, but hard to see wood for the trees!

Still, it can be hard not to react to the trolls occasionally. (Halifax/Leeds/BCFC fans who want to stick their oar in and stir things a bit). Best to ignore them though.
someone says something i do not like, troll!
grow up and stop being a sheep and using a word you do not understand.
[quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Leagueman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Van Bellen's Baby[/bold] wrote: The level of discussion today is truly dreadful - and that's saying something for this forum! Can those who feel the urge to get into a slanging match every time somebody posts something they don't agree with bear in mind that you are contributing more heat than light and it's boring! We are mostly Bulls fans on this site and might consider a more constructive dialogue that doesn't resort to personal abuse - the worst of which, in my opinion, is by those who like to assert some sort of intellectual superiority. Grow up![/p][/quote]Well said. It just fills space and takes time to go through genuinely constructive points. We all get offended sometimes but let it pass and Don't get upset that is the best line of argument.[/p][/quote]agreed, plenty of good points being made, but hard to see wood for the trees! Still, it can be hard not to react to the trolls occasionally. (Halifax/Leeds/BCFC fans who want to stick their oar in and stir things a bit). Best to ignore them though.[/p][/quote]someone says something i do not like, troll! grow up and stop being a sheep and using a word you do not understand. tinytoonster
  • Score: 1

5:03pm Tue 18 Mar 14

tinytoonster says...

cleckbull wrote:
Bone_idle18 wrote:
MrQuinque wrote:
I think it might be time to give up on the comedy show that is the Bradford Bulls and Start over with a Bradford Northern Phoenix club. No debts, no stupid name, play at Valley parade let them work their way back into SuperLeague.
where in the League would the RFL place them I wonder? If it was down a division, and we could retain a few players, we could push for promotion in a few years, but on a more stable financial footing!
What planet are you living on
Relegation is the last thing we want
We would lose all our players and it would be even harder to keep the club going with even less coming through the turnstiles
As fans of the club we should be only concerned with an owner who has the financial clout to invest in the team....just like other teams who are bankrolled along (eg Huddersfield who have no support)
Its just the same setup as these other clubs...if the financial backer pulls the plug they would be in trouble too
If this means the creditors lose out then so be it.....they were deals carried out with Omar Khan who has taken us back into this mess.

COYB
i hope you get relegated just for saying that last bit, if the creditors lose out so be it?
these are hard working people who's lives could be ruined but sod them so long as bulls survive.
you are a disgrace.
[quote][p][bold]cleckbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrQuinque[/bold] wrote: I think it might be time to give up on the comedy show that is the Bradford Bulls and Start over with a Bradford Northern Phoenix club. No debts, no stupid name, play at Valley parade let them work their way back into SuperLeague.[/p][/quote]where in the League would the RFL place them I wonder? If it was down a division, and we could retain a few players, we could push for promotion in a few years, but on a more stable financial footing![/p][/quote]What planet are you living on Relegation is the last thing we want We would lose all our players and it would be even harder to keep the club going with even less coming through the turnstiles As fans of the club we should be only concerned with an owner who has the financial clout to invest in the team....just like other teams who are bankrolled along (eg Huddersfield who have no support) Its just the same setup as these other clubs...if the financial backer pulls the plug they would be in trouble too If this means the creditors lose out then so be it.....they were deals carried out with Omar Khan who has taken us back into this mess. COYB[/p][/quote]i hope you get relegated just for saying that last bit, if the creditors lose out so be it? these are hard working people who's lives could be ruined but sod them so long as bulls survive. you are a disgrace. tinytoonster
  • Score: 2

5:10pm Tue 18 Mar 14

axelf1963 says...

Bye Bye Bye Bye ,
Bye Bye Bye Bye
Bye Bye Bye Bye , Bye Bye Bye Bye axelf1963
  • Score: -6

5:13pm Tue 18 Mar 14

BCFC1234 says...

I'm afraid this will run and run, if Marc Green buys the club he will sell it within weeks. It is more beneficial for him to purchase the club by writing off his debts then selling it on rather than accept 5p in the £1 (or something similar) from the administrator buy letting someone else buy the club
I'm afraid this will run and run, if Marc Green buys the club he will sell it within weeks. It is more beneficial for him to purchase the club by writing off his debts then selling it on rather than accept 5p in the £1 (or something similar) from the administrator buy letting someone else buy the club BCFC1234
  • Score: 4

5:13pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Bone_idle18 says...

tinytoonster wrote:
Bone_idle18 wrote:
Leagueman wrote:
Van Bellen's Baby wrote:
The level of discussion today is truly dreadful - and that's saying something for this forum! Can those who feel the urge to get into a slanging match every time somebody posts something they don't agree with bear in mind that you are contributing more heat than light and it's boring! We are mostly Bulls fans on this site and might consider a more constructive dialogue that doesn't resort to personal abuse - the worst of which, in my opinion, is by those who like to assert some sort of intellectual superiority. Grow up!
Well said.
It just fills space and takes time to go through genuinely constructive points.
We all get offended sometimes but let it pass and Don't get upset that is the best line of argument.
agreed, plenty of good points being made, but hard to see wood for the trees!

Still, it can be hard not to react to the trolls occasionally. (Halifax/Leeds/BCFC fans who want to stick their oar in and stir things a bit). Best to ignore them though.
someone says something i do not like, troll!
grow up and stop being a sheep and using a word you do not understand.
No, someone says something deliberately provocative that doesn't contribute to the discussion, but is designed to provoke a reaction.

Bit like the comment in your next post..... "hope you go down". Does that add anything to the discussion? Is it a positive contribution or is it some dim witted soccer fan trying to get a reaction?
[quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Leagueman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Van Bellen's Baby[/bold] wrote: The level of discussion today is truly dreadful - and that's saying something for this forum! Can those who feel the urge to get into a slanging match every time somebody posts something they don't agree with bear in mind that you are contributing more heat than light and it's boring! We are mostly Bulls fans on this site and might consider a more constructive dialogue that doesn't resort to personal abuse - the worst of which, in my opinion, is by those who like to assert some sort of intellectual superiority. Grow up![/p][/quote]Well said. It just fills space and takes time to go through genuinely constructive points. We all get offended sometimes but let it pass and Don't get upset that is the best line of argument.[/p][/quote]agreed, plenty of good points being made, but hard to see wood for the trees! Still, it can be hard not to react to the trolls occasionally. (Halifax/Leeds/BCFC fans who want to stick their oar in and stir things a bit). Best to ignore them though.[/p][/quote]someone says something i do not like, troll! grow up and stop being a sheep and using a word you do not understand.[/p][/quote]No, someone says something deliberately provocative that doesn't contribute to the discussion, but is designed to provoke a reaction. Bit like the comment in your next post..... "hope you go down". Does that add anything to the discussion? Is it a positive contribution or is it some dim witted soccer fan trying to get a reaction? Bone_idle18
  • Score: 1

5:20pm Tue 18 Mar 14

axelf1963 says...

VIKING COME BACK ITS ALL GOING TO BE OK DARLING
VIKING COME BACK ITS ALL GOING TO BE OK DARLING axelf1963
  • Score: -1

6:02pm Tue 18 Mar 14

vikksy says...

approx 525.000 in city each get their share back? I make that £2.62 each. The Bulls can keep my share of the £200.000.
approx 525.000 in city each get their share back? I make that £2.62 each. The Bulls can keep my share of the £200.000. vikksy
  • Score: -5

6:15pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Bone_idle18 says...

vikksy wrote:
approx 525.000 in city each get their share back? I make that £2.62 each. The Bulls can keep my share of the £200.000.
Isn't it nearer 38p?

It's probably a fraction of what's owed in unpaid council tax as well.

Still, it should be paid back.
[quote][p][bold]vikksy[/bold] wrote: approx 525.000 in city each get their share back? I make that £2.62 each. The Bulls can keep my share of the £200.000.[/p][/quote]Isn't it nearer 38p? It's probably a fraction of what's owed in unpaid council tax as well. Still, it should be paid back. Bone_idle18
  • Score: -1

6:55pm Tue 18 Mar 14

cleckbull says...

tinytoonster wrote:
cleckbull wrote:
Bone_idle18 wrote:
MrQuinque wrote:
I think it might be time to give up on the comedy show that is the Bradford Bulls and Start over with a Bradford Northern Phoenix club. No debts, no stupid name, play at Valley parade let them work their way back into SuperLeague.
where in the League would the RFL place them I wonder? If it was down a division, and we could retain a few players, we could push for promotion in a few years, but on a more stable financial footing!
What planet are you living on
Relegation is the last thing we want
We would lose all our players and it would be even harder to keep the club going with even less coming through the turnstiles
As fans of the club we should be only concerned with an owner who has the financial clout to invest in the team....just like other teams who are bankrolled along (eg Huddersfield who have no support)
Its just the same setup as these other clubs...if the financial backer pulls the plug they would be in trouble too
If this means the creditors lose out then so be it.....they were deals carried out with Omar Khan who has taken us back into this mess.

COYB
i hope you get relegated just for saying that last bit, if the creditors lose out so be it?
these are hard working people who's lives could be ruined but sod them so long as bulls survive.
you are a disgrace.
What happened to the fans money when we dipped in our own pockets 2 years ago...we ain't getting that back are we....its Omar Khan who is the disgrace

Why should the new owners have to pay when they have money to invest in the team and keeping the club alive
If Omar has money
to put a new bid on the table as he did last month he should be forced to pay creditors....better still locked up !
[quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cleckbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrQuinque[/bold] wrote: I think it might be time to give up on the comedy show that is the Bradford Bulls and Start over with a Bradford Northern Phoenix club. No debts, no stupid name, play at Valley parade let them work their way back into SuperLeague.[/p][/quote]where in the League would the RFL place them I wonder? If it was down a division, and we could retain a few players, we could push for promotion in a few years, but on a more stable financial footing![/p][/quote]What planet are you living on Relegation is the last thing we want We would lose all our players and it would be even harder to keep the club going with even less coming through the turnstiles As fans of the club we should be only concerned with an owner who has the financial clout to invest in the team....just like other teams who are bankrolled along (eg Huddersfield who have no support) Its just the same setup as these other clubs...if the financial backer pulls the plug they would be in trouble too If this means the creditors lose out then so be it.....they were deals carried out with Omar Khan who has taken us back into this mess. COYB[/p][/quote]i hope you get relegated just for saying that last bit, if the creditors lose out so be it? these are hard working people who's lives could be ruined but sod them so long as bulls survive. you are a disgrace.[/p][/quote]What happened to the fans money when we dipped in our own pockets 2 years ago...we ain't getting that back are we....its Omar Khan who is the disgrace Why should the new owners have to pay when they have money to invest in the team and keeping the club alive If Omar has money to put a new bid on the table as he did last month he should be forced to pay creditors....better still locked up ! cleckbull
  • Score: 0

7:52pm Tue 18 Mar 14

bcfc1903 says...

Gutted if Mrs K's bid isn't the winner, that is the way forward for the Bull's. That family are passionate about the sport and are minted. Hopefully Mrs K will be involved in some way but it doesn't look good. Without serious cash behind the club, I really fear for the future. Rhodes and Lawn are maybe in with a bid , If true, I don't know how that works unless it's a last resort as they are not mega rich like the Koukash family.
Gutted if Mrs K's bid isn't the winner, that is the way forward for the Bull's. That family are passionate about the sport and are minted. Hopefully Mrs K will be involved in some way but it doesn't look good. Without serious cash behind the club, I really fear for the future. Rhodes and Lawn are maybe in with a bid , If true, I don't know how that works unless it's a last resort as they are not mega rich like the Koukash family. bcfc1903
  • Score: 0

7:59pm Tue 18 Mar 14

tinytoonster says...

Bone_idle18 wrote:
tinytoonster wrote:
Bone_idle18 wrote:
Leagueman wrote:
Van Bellen's Baby wrote:
The level of discussion today is truly dreadful - and that's saying something for this forum! Can those who feel the urge to get into a slanging match every time somebody posts something they don't agree with bear in mind that you are contributing more heat than light and it's boring! We are mostly Bulls fans on this site and might consider a more constructive dialogue that doesn't resort to personal abuse - the worst of which, in my opinion, is by those who like to assert some sort of intellectual superiority. Grow up!
Well said.
It just fills space and takes time to go through genuinely constructive points.
We all get offended sometimes but let it pass and Don't get upset that is the best line of argument.
agreed, plenty of good points being made, but hard to see wood for the trees!

Still, it can be hard not to react to the trolls occasionally. (Halifax/Leeds/BCFC fans who want to stick their oar in and stir things a bit). Best to ignore them though.
someone says something i do not like, troll!
grow up and stop being a sheep and using a word you do not understand.
No, someone says something deliberately provocative that doesn't contribute to the discussion, but is designed to provoke a reaction.

Bit like the comment in your next post..... "hope you go down". Does that add anything to the discussion? Is it a positive contribution or is it some dim witted soccer fan trying to get a reaction?
soccer?
does this look like america?
a small businessman owed 10 grand gets stiffed out of 9 grand of that money.
how does he survive then?
twice in 3 years!
its ok as long as the bulls survive!!
[quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Leagueman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Van Bellen's Baby[/bold] wrote: The level of discussion today is truly dreadful - and that's saying something for this forum! Can those who feel the urge to get into a slanging match every time somebody posts something they don't agree with bear in mind that you are contributing more heat than light and it's boring! We are mostly Bulls fans on this site and might consider a more constructive dialogue that doesn't resort to personal abuse - the worst of which, in my opinion, is by those who like to assert some sort of intellectual superiority. Grow up![/p][/quote]Well said. It just fills space and takes time to go through genuinely constructive points. We all get offended sometimes but let it pass and Don't get upset that is the best line of argument.[/p][/quote]agreed, plenty of good points being made, but hard to see wood for the trees! Still, it can be hard not to react to the trolls occasionally. (Halifax/Leeds/BCFC fans who want to stick their oar in and stir things a bit). Best to ignore them though.[/p][/quote]someone says something i do not like, troll! grow up and stop being a sheep and using a word you do not understand.[/p][/quote]No, someone says something deliberately provocative that doesn't contribute to the discussion, but is designed to provoke a reaction. Bit like the comment in your next post..... "hope you go down". Does that add anything to the discussion? Is it a positive contribution or is it some dim witted soccer fan trying to get a reaction?[/p][/quote]soccer? does this look like america? a small businessman owed 10 grand gets stiffed out of 9 grand of that money. how does he survive then? twice in 3 years! its ok as long as the bulls survive!! tinytoonster
  • Score: -2

7:59pm Tue 18 Mar 14

caledonia15 says...

It do sent surprise me that the RFL have chucked out the bid from the Koukash family, lets face it this guy is a breath of fresh air in RL, he is too far froward thinking for the mob who live in the dark ages at RL H.Q,. who continue to bury their head in the sand.
I really do wonder at the running of professional rugby league in this country, sadly i really do fear for the future now for the bulls, in many ways i wish it was all over, its been a long slow death over the last 2-3 years., i hope and pray that l am wrong but it appears that the light at the end of the tunnel is about to go out.
It do sent surprise me that the RFL have chucked out the bid from the Koukash family, lets face it this guy is a breath of fresh air in RL, he is too far froward thinking for the mob who live in the dark ages at RL H.Q,. who continue to bury their head in the sand. I really do wonder at the running of professional rugby league in this country, sadly i really do fear for the future now for the bulls, in many ways i wish it was all over, its been a long slow death over the last 2-3 years., i hope and pray that l am wrong but it appears that the light at the end of the tunnel is about to go out. caledonia15
  • Score: 1

8:01pm Tue 18 Mar 14

tinytoonster says...

cleckbull wrote:
tinytoonster wrote:
cleckbull wrote:
Bone_idle18 wrote:
MrQuinque wrote:
I think it might be time to give up on the comedy show that is the Bradford Bulls and Start over with a Bradford Northern Phoenix club. No debts, no stupid name, play at Valley parade let them work their way back into SuperLeague.
where in the League would the RFL place them I wonder? If it was down a division, and we could retain a few players, we could push for promotion in a few years, but on a more stable financial footing!
What planet are you living on
Relegation is the last thing we want
We would lose all our players and it would be even harder to keep the club going with even less coming through the turnstiles
As fans of the club we should be only concerned with an owner who has the financial clout to invest in the team....just like other teams who are bankrolled along (eg Huddersfield who have no support)
Its just the same setup as these other clubs...if the financial backer pulls the plug they would be in trouble too
If this means the creditors lose out then so be it.....they were deals carried out with Omar Khan who has taken us back into this mess.

COYB
i hope you get relegated just for saying that last bit, if the creditors lose out so be it?
these are hard working people who's lives could be ruined but sod them so long as bulls survive.
you are a disgrace.
What happened to the fans money when we dipped in our own pockets 2 years ago...we ain't getting that back are we....its Omar Khan who is the disgrace

Why should the new owners have to pay when they have money to invest in the team and keeping the club alive
If Omar has money
to put a new bid on the table as he did last month he should be forced to pay creditors....better still locked up !
take on the club.take on the debt.
simple as that.
dont like it. dont do it.
thats what other owners do.
[quote][p][bold]cleckbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cleckbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrQuinque[/bold] wrote: I think it might be time to give up on the comedy show that is the Bradford Bulls and Start over with a Bradford Northern Phoenix club. No debts, no stupid name, play at Valley parade let them work their way back into SuperLeague.[/p][/quote]where in the League would the RFL place them I wonder? If it was down a division, and we could retain a few players, we could push for promotion in a few years, but on a more stable financial footing![/p][/quote]What planet are you living on Relegation is the last thing we want We would lose all our players and it would be even harder to keep the club going with even less coming through the turnstiles As fans of the club we should be only concerned with an owner who has the financial clout to invest in the team....just like other teams who are bankrolled along (eg Huddersfield who have no support) Its just the same setup as these other clubs...if the financial backer pulls the plug they would be in trouble too If this means the creditors lose out then so be it.....they were deals carried out with Omar Khan who has taken us back into this mess. COYB[/p][/quote]i hope you get relegated just for saying that last bit, if the creditors lose out so be it? these are hard working people who's lives could be ruined but sod them so long as bulls survive. you are a disgrace.[/p][/quote]What happened to the fans money when we dipped in our own pockets 2 years ago...we ain't getting that back are we....its Omar Khan who is the disgrace Why should the new owners have to pay when they have money to invest in the team and keeping the club alive If Omar has money to put a new bid on the table as he did last month he should be forced to pay creditors....better still locked up ![/p][/quote]take on the club.take on the debt. simple as that. dont like it. dont do it. thats what other owners do. tinytoonster
  • Score: -1

8:01pm Tue 18 Mar 14

cleckbull says...

tinytoonster wrote:
cleckbull wrote:
Bone_idle18 wrote:
MrQuinque wrote:
I think it might be time to give up on the comedy show that is the Bradford Bulls and Start over with a Bradford Northern Phoenix club. No debts, no stupid name, play at Valley parade let them work their way back into SuperLeague.
where in the League would the RFL place them I wonder? If it was down a division, and we could retain a few players, we could push for promotion in a few years, but on a more stable financial footing!
What planet are you living on
Relegation is the last thing we want
We would lose all our players and it would be even harder to keep the club going with even less coming through the turnstiles
As fans of the club we should be only concerned with an owner who has the financial clout to invest in the team....just like other teams who are bankrolled along (eg Huddersfield who have no support)
Its just the same setup as these other clubs...if the financial backer pulls the plug they would be in trouble too
If this means the creditors lose out then so be it.....they were deals carried out with Omar Khan who has taken us back into this mess.

COYB
i hope you get relegated just for saying that last bit, if the creditors lose out so be it?
these are hard working people who's lives could be ruined but sod them so long as bulls survive.
you are a disgrace.
Get real.....then head off to another forum you dim witted football fan
[quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cleckbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrQuinque[/bold] wrote: I think it might be time to give up on the comedy show that is the Bradford Bulls and Start over with a Bradford Northern Phoenix club. No debts, no stupid name, play at Valley parade let them work their way back into SuperLeague.[/p][/quote]where in the League would the RFL place them I wonder? If it was down a division, and we could retain a few players, we could push for promotion in a few years, but on a more stable financial footing![/p][/quote]What planet are you living on Relegation is the last thing we want We would lose all our players and it would be even harder to keep the club going with even less coming through the turnstiles As fans of the club we should be only concerned with an owner who has the financial clout to invest in the team....just like other teams who are bankrolled along (eg Huddersfield who have no support) Its just the same setup as these other clubs...if the financial backer pulls the plug they would be in trouble too If this means the creditors lose out then so be it.....they were deals carried out with Omar Khan who has taken us back into this mess. COYB[/p][/quote]i hope you get relegated just for saying that last bit, if the creditors lose out so be it? these are hard working people who's lives could be ruined but sod them so long as bulls survive. you are a disgrace.[/p][/quote]Get real.....then head off to another forum you dim witted football fan cleckbull
  • Score: 0

8:02pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Bigal70 says...

It's a shame that creditors lose out but tell that to the RFL. What did they do with the Bulls Sky money in 2012. Did they pay the then creditors? No they decided it was a much better use of the money to share it out with the rest of SL. So it seems they don't really give toss about creditors.
It's a shame that creditors lose out but tell that to the RFL. What did they do with the Bulls Sky money in 2012. Did they pay the then creditors? No they decided it was a much better use of the money to share it out with the rest of SL. So it seems they don't really give toss about creditors. Bigal70
  • Score: 8

8:07pm Tue 18 Mar 14

tinytoonster says...

cleckbull wrote:
tinytoonster wrote:
cleckbull wrote:
Bone_idle18 wrote:
MrQuinque wrote:
I think it might be time to give up on the comedy show that is the Bradford Bulls and Start over with a Bradford Northern Phoenix club. No debts, no stupid name, play at Valley parade let them work their way back into SuperLeague.
where in the League would the RFL place them I wonder? If it was down a division, and we could retain a few players, we could push for promotion in a few years, but on a more stable financial footing!
What planet are you living on
Relegation is the last thing we want
We would lose all our players and it would be even harder to keep the club going with even less coming through the turnstiles
As fans of the club we should be only concerned with an owner who has the financial clout to invest in the team....just like other teams who are bankrolled along (eg Huddersfield who have no support)
Its just the same setup as these other clubs...if the financial backer pulls the plug they would be in trouble too
If this means the creditors lose out then so be it.....they were deals carried out with Omar Khan who has taken us back into this mess.

COYB
i hope you get relegated just for saying that last bit, if the creditors lose out so be it?
these are hard working people who's lives could be ruined but sod them so long as bulls survive.
you are a disgrace.
Get real.....then head off to another forum you dim witted football fan
nothing more dimwitted than a rugby fan.
tried having a conversation with one,
forrest gump springs to mind....
[quote][p][bold]cleckbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cleckbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrQuinque[/bold] wrote: I think it might be time to give up on the comedy show that is the Bradford Bulls and Start over with a Bradford Northern Phoenix club. No debts, no stupid name, play at Valley parade let them work their way back into SuperLeague.[/p][/quote]where in the League would the RFL place them I wonder? If it was down a division, and we could retain a few players, we could push for promotion in a few years, but on a more stable financial footing![/p][/quote]What planet are you living on Relegation is the last thing we want We would lose all our players and it would be even harder to keep the club going with even less coming through the turnstiles As fans of the club we should be only concerned with an owner who has the financial clout to invest in the team....just like other teams who are bankrolled along (eg Huddersfield who have no support) Its just the same setup as these other clubs...if the financial backer pulls the plug they would be in trouble too If this means the creditors lose out then so be it.....they were deals carried out with Omar Khan who has taken us back into this mess. COYB[/p][/quote]i hope you get relegated just for saying that last bit, if the creditors lose out so be it? these are hard working people who's lives could be ruined but sod them so long as bulls survive. you are a disgrace.[/p][/quote]Get real.....then head off to another forum you dim witted football fan[/p][/quote]nothing more dimwitted than a rugby fan. tried having a conversation with one, forrest gump springs to mind.... tinytoonster
  • Score: -1

8:18pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

caledonia15 wrote:
It do sent surprise me that the RFL have chucked out the bid from the Koukash family, lets face it this guy is a breath of fresh air in RL, he is too far froward thinking for the mob who live in the dark ages at RL H.Q,. who continue to bury their head in the sand.
I really do wonder at the running of professional rugby league in this country, sadly i really do fear for the future now for the bulls, in many ways i wish it was all over, its been a long slow death over the last 2-3 years., i hope and pray that l am wrong but it appears that the light at the end of the tunnel is about to go out.
RFL haven't rejected the bid, it's the administrators. If your going to have a go at the RFL at least have a go at them for something they have or haven't done.
[quote][p][bold]caledonia15[/bold] wrote: It do sent surprise me that the RFL have chucked out the bid from the Koukash family, lets face it this guy is a breath of fresh air in RL, he is too far froward thinking for the mob who live in the dark ages at RL H.Q,. who continue to bury their head in the sand. I really do wonder at the running of professional rugby league in this country, sadly i really do fear for the future now for the bulls, in many ways i wish it was all over, its been a long slow death over the last 2-3 years., i hope and pray that l am wrong but it appears that the light at the end of the tunnel is about to go out.[/p][/quote]RFL haven't rejected the bid, it's the administrators. If your going to have a go at the RFL at least have a go at them for something they have or haven't done. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: -1

8:19pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Bigal70 wrote:
It's a shame that creditors lose out but tell that to the RFL. What did they do with the Bulls Sky money in 2012. Did they pay the then creditors? No they decided it was a much better use of the money to share it out with the rest of SL. So it seems they don't really give toss about creditors.
Again unfair to blame the RFL, they put it to a vote and the supee league clubs voted to split the money between themselves.
[quote][p][bold]Bigal70[/bold] wrote: It's a shame that creditors lose out but tell that to the RFL. What did they do with the Bulls Sky money in 2012. Did they pay the then creditors? No they decided it was a much better use of the money to share it out with the rest of SL. So it seems they don't really give toss about creditors.[/p][/quote]Again unfair to blame the RFL, they put it to a vote and the supee league clubs voted to split the money between themselves. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 0

8:47pm Tue 18 Mar 14

cleckbull says...

Too spineless to make their own decisions more like!!
Too spineless to make their own decisions more like!! cleckbull
  • Score: 1

9:02pm Tue 18 Mar 14

cleckbull says...

tinytoonster wrote:
cleckbull wrote:
tinytoonster wrote:
cleckbull wrote:
Bone_idle18 wrote:
MrQuinque wrote:
I think it might be time to give up on the comedy show that is the Bradford Bulls and Start over with a Bradford Northern Phoenix club. No debts, no stupid name, play at Valley parade let them work their way back into SuperLeague.
where in the League would the RFL place them I wonder? If it was down a division, and we could retain a few players, we could push for promotion in a few years, but on a more stable financial footing!
What planet are you living on
Relegation is the last thing we want
We would lose all our players and it would be even harder to keep the club going with even less coming through the turnstiles
As fans of the club we should be only concerned with an owner who has the financial clout to invest in the team....just like other teams who are bankrolled along (eg Huddersfield who have no support)
Its just the same setup as these other clubs...if the financial backer pulls the plug they would be in trouble too
If this means the creditors lose out then so be it.....they were deals carried out with Omar Khan who has taken us back into this mess.

COYB
i hope you get relegated just for saying that last bit, if the creditors lose out so be it?
these are hard working people who's lives could be ruined but sod them so long as bulls survive.
you are a disgrace.
Get real.....then head off to another forum you dim witted football fan
nothing more dimwitted than a rugby fan.
tried having a conversation with one,
forrest gump springs to mind....
Errrrr....this a rugby forum !!
Does your special needs carer know you're playing with a keyboard...its way past bedtime
[quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cleckbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cleckbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrQuinque[/bold] wrote: I think it might be time to give up on the comedy show that is the Bradford Bulls and Start over with a Bradford Northern Phoenix club. No debts, no stupid name, play at Valley parade let them work their way back into SuperLeague.[/p][/quote]where in the League would the RFL place them I wonder? If it was down a division, and we could retain a few players, we could push for promotion in a few years, but on a more stable financial footing![/p][/quote]What planet are you living on Relegation is the last thing we want We would lose all our players and it would be even harder to keep the club going with even less coming through the turnstiles As fans of the club we should be only concerned with an owner who has the financial clout to invest in the team....just like other teams who are bankrolled along (eg Huddersfield who have no support) Its just the same setup as these other clubs...if the financial backer pulls the plug they would be in trouble too If this means the creditors lose out then so be it.....they were deals carried out with Omar Khan who has taken us back into this mess. COYB[/p][/quote]i hope you get relegated just for saying that last bit, if the creditors lose out so be it? these are hard working people who's lives could be ruined but sod them so long as bulls survive. you are a disgrace.[/p][/quote]Get real.....then head off to another forum you dim witted football fan[/p][/quote]nothing more dimwitted than a rugby fan. tried having a conversation with one, forrest gump springs to mind....[/p][/quote]Errrrr....this a rugby forum !! Does your special needs carer know you're playing with a keyboard...its way past bedtime cleckbull
  • Score: 1

9:38pm Tue 18 Mar 14

bradfordbronco says...

tinytoonster wrote:
Bone_idle18 wrote:
tinytoonster wrote:
Bone_idle18 wrote:
Leagueman wrote:
Van Bellen's Baby wrote:
The level of discussion today is truly dreadful - and that's saying something for this forum! Can those who feel the urge to get into a slanging match every time somebody posts something they don't agree with bear in mind that you are contributing more heat than light and it's boring! We are mostly Bulls fans on this site and might consider a more constructive dialogue that doesn't resort to personal abuse - the worst of which, in my opinion, is by those who like to assert some sort of intellectual superiority. Grow up!
Well said.
It just fills space and takes time to go through genuinely constructive points.
We all get offended sometimes but let it pass and Don't get upset that is the best line of argument.
agreed, plenty of good points being made, but hard to see wood for the trees!

Still, it can be hard not to react to the trolls occasionally. (Halifax/Leeds/BCFC fans who want to stick their oar in and stir things a bit). Best to ignore them though.
someone says something i do not like, troll!
grow up and stop being a sheep and using a word you do not understand.
No, someone says something deliberately provocative that doesn't contribute to the discussion, but is designed to provoke a reaction.

Bit like the comment in your next post..... "hope you go down". Does that add anything to the discussion? Is it a positive contribution or is it some dim witted soccer fan trying to get a reaction?
soccer?
does this look like america?
a small businessman owed 10 grand gets stiffed out of 9 grand of that money.
how does he survive then?
twice in 3 years!
its ok as long as the bulls survive!!
The word soccer wasn't invented in America. It was used in England in the 1860's after the formation of the Football Association and was widely used especially in Northern England where the term Football was used to describe Rugby Football which is what was played in the West Riding at the time

The term "soccer" is a shortened version of the word "Association" which is the type of football Bradford City Association Football Club have played since 1903. Don't confuse it with Football which is what our club has played since 1863. We used the term football 40 years before BCFC was invented. Therefore we have every right to call our game Rugby or Football and your game soccer or the dribbling code!!
[quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Leagueman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Van Bellen's Baby[/bold] wrote: The level of discussion today is truly dreadful - and that's saying something for this forum! Can those who feel the urge to get into a slanging match every time somebody posts something they don't agree with bear in mind that you are contributing more heat than light and it's boring! We are mostly Bulls fans on this site and might consider a more constructive dialogue that doesn't resort to personal abuse - the worst of which, in my opinion, is by those who like to assert some sort of intellectual superiority. Grow up![/p][/quote]Well said. It just fills space and takes time to go through genuinely constructive points. We all get offended sometimes but let it pass and Don't get upset that is the best line of argument.[/p][/quote]agreed, plenty of good points being made, but hard to see wood for the trees! Still, it can be hard not to react to the trolls occasionally. (Halifax/Leeds/BCFC fans who want to stick their oar in and stir things a bit). Best to ignore them though.[/p][/quote]someone says something i do not like, troll! grow up and stop being a sheep and using a word you do not understand.[/p][/quote]No, someone says something deliberately provocative that doesn't contribute to the discussion, but is designed to provoke a reaction. Bit like the comment in your next post..... "hope you go down". Does that add anything to the discussion? Is it a positive contribution or is it some dim witted soccer fan trying to get a reaction?[/p][/quote]soccer? does this look like america? a small businessman owed 10 grand gets stiffed out of 9 grand of that money. how does he survive then? twice in 3 years! its ok as long as the bulls survive!![/p][/quote]The word soccer wasn't invented in America. It was used in England in the 1860's after the formation of the Football Association and was widely used especially in Northern England where the term Football was used to describe Rugby Football which is what was played in the West Riding at the time The term "soccer" is a shortened version of the word "Association" which is the type of football Bradford City Association Football Club have played since 1903. Don't confuse it with Football which is what our club has played since 1863. We used the term football 40 years before BCFC was invented. Therefore we have every right to call our game Rugby or Football and your game soccer or the dribbling code!! bradfordbronco
  • Score: 0

9:47pm Tue 18 Mar 14

bradfordbronco says...

The term Football refers to any game where a goal is scored by kicking the ball with your foot through the gaol posts to score points. As is the case in Rugby League, Rugby union, Aussie Rules, Gaelic, American or Association versions. They all came from the earlier folk games. Please don't beieive the myth that the RFU put out in 1895 when the Northern Union spilt from RU that rugby was invented when William Webb Elllis was playing Soccer in 1820's and he picked the ball and ran with it. This has now been proved to be totally incorrect. If anything Soccer is a descendant of original folk games which closer resemble Rugby rules
The term Football refers to any game where a goal is scored by kicking the ball with your foot through the gaol posts to score points. As is the case in Rugby League, Rugby union, Aussie Rules, Gaelic, American or Association versions. They all came from the earlier folk games. Please don't beieive the myth that the RFU put out in 1895 when the Northern Union spilt from RU that rugby was invented when William Webb Elllis was playing Soccer in 1820's and he picked the ball and ran with it. This has now been proved to be totally incorrect. If anything Soccer is a descendant of original folk games which closer resemble Rugby rules bradfordbronco
  • Score: 4

9:50pm Tue 18 Mar 14

bradfordbronco says...

Whatever we call it. It looks like unless a Koukash gets involved 151 years of Rugby Football in Bradford might be coming to an end!!
Whatever we call it. It looks like unless a Koukash gets involved 151 years of Rugby Football in Bradford might be coming to an end!! bradfordbronco
  • Score: 5

7:21pm Fri 21 Mar 14

Arhmen Noleg says...

bradfordbronco wrote:
Whatever we call it. It looks like unless a Koukash gets involved 151 years of Rugby Football in Bradford might be coming to an end!!
Don't think Bradford Salem will be happy with that.
Playing since1923 and still going strong.
Wrong egg for you Bronc x
The Bulls will live
[quote][p][bold]bradfordbronco[/bold] wrote: Whatever we call it. It looks like unless a Koukash gets involved 151 years of Rugby Football in Bradford might be coming to an end!![/p][/quote]Don't think Bradford Salem will be happy with that. Playing since1923 and still going strong. Wrong egg for you Bronc x The Bulls will live Arhmen Noleg
  • Score: 0

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