Bradford Bulls takeover can't come quick enough, says Francis Cummins as Koukashes keep a watching brief

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: FAMILY DAY OUT: Mandy Koukash gives the thumbs up to Bulls fans from the Coral Stand before yesterday’s clash with Huddersfield FAMILY DAY OUT: Mandy Koukash gives the thumbs up to Bulls fans from the Coral Stand before yesterday’s clash with Huddersfield

Bulls coach Francis Cummins accepts the need for his crisis-torn club to undergo some short-term pain in the hope of obtaining some long-term gains.

The Giants ran in 12 tries on their way to a thumping 66-18 win, their biggest-ever victory over the Bulls, who look almost certain to be in the hands of new owners this week.

Administrator David Wilson was at yesterday’s match with prospective buyer Mandy Koukash, one of five parties to have made a bid for the club.

Cummins is hoping the situation will finally be resolved as he bids to boost a squad that was down to its bare bones yesterday, with Manase Manuokafoa the only recognised prop available.

The Bradford boss said: “It sounds like there are a few consortiums in there.

“It’s tough at the moment but I’m really confident about those players, the people around the club and the supporters.

“We’re going to be okay. We need someone to take over this club and hopefully give us a little bit of back-up.”

Dr Koukash and his wife watched from the stands yesterday and he said: “I believe Mandy’s bid has the substance, vision and strategy to help the club survive this year and stay in Super League.

“But it’s also about 2015, when hopefully the rebuilding process can start to bring the glory days back to the club.

“I believe we will be told by Monday or Tuesday whether her bid has been successful.

“I’ve been told there are five bids in total but as far as we are concerned, Mandy has done everything she can; not just to buy the club but to take it forward.  

“Coming here today has been great and given us a real flavour of the club.”

Chev Walker was used as a front-rower yesterday with Adam Sidlow missing through illness and on-loan Huddersfield prop Anthony Mullally ineligible to face his parent club.

Cummins, who also lost Luke George to a hamstring injury during the first half, added: “We knew it was going to be a tough day.

“The lads’ effort was great but, if you are going to go into a game with two props, especially against a team of literal Giants, then it’s going to be a tough day.  

“They had more forwards on the bench than we did in our entire team. It meant our outside backs had to do some extra work.

“We needed to be smarter but we were always going to struggle with the personnel.”

Giants coach Paul Anderson said: “We were just happy to get the win. At times it was very slow and there was no ruck speed.

“Both teams fell down to a really slow level and we made four changes with 60 minutes gone.

“The whole speed of the game wasn’t great but I thought we turned up at times and obviously the scoreboard showed that.”

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7:30am Mon 17 Mar 14

Mike Strutter says...

What a pantomime.

First we have Richard Lamb splattering himself all over twitter and now we have Mandy (I aspire to own a RL club on behalf of my husband) Koukash launching a PR exercise before the bids are announced.

I have absolutely no doubt she will get it but why not lie low until the results are announced ?
What a pantomime. First we have Richard Lamb splattering himself all over twitter and now we have Mandy (I aspire to own a RL club on behalf of my husband) Koukash launching a PR exercise before the bids are announced. I have absolutely no doubt she will get it but why not lie low until the results are announced ? Mike Strutter
  • Score: -31

7:58am Mon 17 Mar 14

axelf1963 says...

So by owning 2 clubs Salford can loan Bulls players to keep them up ? No conflict of interest there then is there ?
So by owning 2 clubs Salford can loan Bulls players to keep them up ? No conflict of interest there then is there ? axelf1963
  • Score: -28

8:01am Mon 17 Mar 14

nosher says...

Thanks Anderson, we noticed YOUR team laying on and slowing the game down. Just shut it.

Saw him at the game yesterday, he looks slimmer than his playing days. Classic gag from my old mate Nigel Wood when he was CEO at blue sox.

" I went to see my doctor, who told me to lose 20 stone of useless fat. So I sold Paul Anderson to the bulls" boom boom lol
Thanks Anderson, we noticed YOUR team laying on and slowing the game down. Just shut it. Saw him at the game yesterday, he looks slimmer than his playing days. Classic gag from my old mate Nigel Wood when he was CEO at blue sox. " I went to see my doctor, who told me to lose 20 stone of useless fat. So I sold Paul Anderson to the bulls" boom boom lol nosher
  • Score: -14

8:05am Mon 17 Mar 14

flashdonut says...

axelf1963 wrote:
So by owning 2 clubs Salford can loan Bulls players to keep them up ? No conflict of interest there then is there ?
Salford can loan us players now. No different.
[quote][p][bold]axelf1963[/bold] wrote: So by owning 2 clubs Salford can loan Bulls players to keep them up ? No conflict of interest there then is there ?[/p][/quote]Salford can loan us players now. No different. flashdonut
  • Score: 12

8:11am Mon 17 Mar 14

Bone_idle18 says...

axelf1963 wrote:
So by owning 2 clubs Salford can loan Bulls players to keep them up ? No conflict of interest there then is there ?
Where's the conflict of interest? Clubs loan players all the time.
In any case, I suspect we'd be wanting something more permanent. I'd say Fakir might be worth a punt, and notice Dewsbury have got Ewan Dowes, he could do a job for us for a season.
[quote][p][bold]axelf1963[/bold] wrote: So by owning 2 clubs Salford can loan Bulls players to keep them up ? No conflict of interest there then is there ?[/p][/quote]Where's the conflict of interest? Clubs loan players all the time. In any case, I suspect we'd be wanting something more permanent. I'd say Fakir might be worth a punt, and notice Dewsbury have got Ewan Dowes, he could do a job for us for a season. Bone_idle18
  • Score: 8

8:23am Mon 17 Mar 14

bingleymoor says...

As people on here know I am not a Bulls fan, just someone who wants sport in Bradford to do well. I am interested in the business side of things, especially the loss of Council Tax payers £200k!!
The latest round of bidding for ownership just seems tome to be a recipe for another re-run of heartache with yet more wanabees. Why do these people air their comments in public instead of waiting for an outcome. First we have Mr. Lamb with his high profile twitter account telling all and sundry he has just sneezed and so on and now the fair Mandy who s bidding for herself but yet her husband keeps using words like "we" and "our" when talking about the bid. He today says that next season will be the one when the Club goes forward. Good, great news, but before then this season needs financing and Creditors must be paid off, at least £1.5million.
Is there a guarantee the Bulls will survive?, no but without massive investment there is ever chance they wont. When you`re in a position to control that investment you are in a position to control one of the relegation spots, (or not) and Salford could then be safe. Just a personal observation.
As people on here know I am not a Bulls fan, just someone who wants sport in Bradford to do well. I am interested in the business side of things, especially the loss of Council Tax payers £200k!! The latest round of bidding for ownership just seems tome to be a recipe for another re-run of heartache with yet more wanabees. Why do these people air their comments in public instead of waiting for an outcome. First we have Mr. Lamb with his high profile twitter account telling all and sundry he has just sneezed and so on and now the fair Mandy who s bidding for herself but yet her husband keeps using words like "we" and "our" when talking about the bid. He today says that next season will be the one when the Club goes forward. Good, great news, but before then this season needs financing and Creditors must be paid off, at least £1.5million. Is there a guarantee the Bulls will survive?, no but without massive investment there is ever chance they wont. When you`re in a position to control that investment you are in a position to control one of the relegation spots, (or not) and Salford could then be safe. Just a personal observation. bingleymoor
  • Score: -8

8:23am Mon 17 Mar 14

Van Bellen's Baby says...

I urge all to view this clip and make up your own minds about the dynamics of this proposed takeover. I'm not saying it is undesirable either by the way before everyone gets on their high horse. http://www.sportingl
ife.com/rugby-league
/video/24814/9212410
/koukash-confirms-br
adford-bid
I urge all to view this clip and make up your own minds about the dynamics of this proposed takeover. I'm not saying it is undesirable either by the way before everyone gets on their high horse. http://www.sportingl ife.com/rugby-league /video/24814/9212410 /koukash-confirms-br adford-bid Van Bellen's Baby
  • Score: -1

8:28am Mon 17 Mar 14

Videoref says...

Where do you keep getting this 'conflict of interest' from? Haven't heard you comment about your Rhinos chairman and his Sheffield/Gateshead/
Hull/Wakefield wife having a 'conflict of interest' so why does it apply to the Koukash's? Talk out of your mouth please
Where do you keep getting this 'conflict of interest' from? Haven't heard you comment about your Rhinos chairman and his Sheffield/Gateshead/ Hull/Wakefield wife having a 'conflict of interest' so why does it apply to the Koukash's? Talk out of your mouth please Videoref
  • Score: 10

8:28am Mon 17 Mar 14

northern pig says...

nosher wrote:
Thanks Anderson, we noticed YOUR team laying on and slowing the game down. Just shut it.

Saw him at the game yesterday, he looks slimmer than his playing days. Classic gag from my old mate Nigel Wood when he was CEO at blue sox.

" I went to see my doctor, who told me to lose 20 stone of useless fat. So I sold Paul Anderson to the bulls" boom boom lol
Paul Anderson,was a fantastic player for Bradford .He will always be one of ours. He was one of legendary'awesome foursome' take off your Red Amber and Black glasses and become a proper student of the game.Like most of the people that post on Bulls forum sites!!!
[quote][p][bold]nosher[/bold] wrote: Thanks Anderson, we noticed YOUR team laying on and slowing the game down. Just shut it. Saw him at the game yesterday, he looks slimmer than his playing days. Classic gag from my old mate Nigel Wood when he was CEO at blue sox. " I went to see my doctor, who told me to lose 20 stone of useless fat. So I sold Paul Anderson to the bulls" boom boom lol[/p][/quote]Paul Anderson,was a fantastic player for Bradford .He will always be one of ours. He was one of legendary'awesome foursome' take off your Red Amber and Black glasses and become a proper student of the game.Like most of the people that post on Bulls forum sites!!! northern pig
  • Score: 35

8:47am Mon 17 Mar 14

axelf1963 says...

Videoref wrote:
Where do you keep getting this 'conflict of interest' from? Haven't heard you comment about your Rhinos chairman and his Sheffield/Gateshead/

Hull/Wakefield wife having a 'conflict of interest' so why does it apply to the Koukash's? Talk out of your mouth please
Owning and CEO a different role.
Yes players can go on loan now but is it likely they would let Chase or another of that calibre go unless it was owned by same people and would save bulls from relegation ?
What happens if they draw each other in challenge cup ? Sean Long may have a wager :-p
[quote][p][bold]Videoref[/bold] wrote: Where do you keep getting this 'conflict of interest' from? Haven't heard you comment about your Rhinos chairman and his Sheffield/Gateshead/ Hull/Wakefield wife having a 'conflict of interest' so why does it apply to the Koukash's? Talk out of your mouth please[/p][/quote]Owning and CEO a different role. Yes players can go on loan now but is it likely they would let Chase or another of that calibre go unless it was owned by same people and would save bulls from relegation ? What happens if they draw each other in challenge cup ? Sean Long may have a wager :-p axelf1963
  • Score: 3

8:52am Mon 17 Mar 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Something needs to happen because gates in the region of around 6k will not pay the bills for long.
Something needs to happen because gates in the region of around 6k will not pay the bills for long. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 9

9:14am Mon 17 Mar 14

THEMANOFSTEEL says...

2 players I would 100% go for Michael Vunakece if anybody remembers this guy from the world cup played for Fiji
hes a prop and was looking to come to super league
and maybe fakir although Catalans dropped him for being poor didn't they?
both strong players needed in the pack plus both maybe available?
2 players I would 100% go for Michael Vunakece if anybody remembers this guy from the world cup played for Fiji hes a prop and was looking to come to super league and maybe fakir although Catalans dropped him for being poor didn't they? both strong players needed in the pack plus both maybe available? THEMANOFSTEEL
  • Score: 9

9:42am Mon 17 Mar 14

northern pig says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Something needs to happen because gates in the region of around 6k will not pay the bills for long.
We will have to seek the advice of London Broncos.The home attendance against Saint's was 1,380 and the game before against Wolves 1,280 I can't work out ,how they sustain Superleague with gates like that!!!
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: Something needs to happen because gates in the region of around 6k will not pay the bills for long.[/p][/quote]We will have to seek the advice of London Broncos.The home attendance against Saint's was 1,380 and the game before against Wolves 1,280 I can't work out ,how they sustain Superleague with gates like that!!! northern pig
  • Score: 10

9:47am Mon 17 Mar 14

spanglishbull.uk says...

NP
This week against Wakey. 1,017.
NP This week against Wakey. 1,017. spanglishbull.uk
  • Score: 3

9:57am Mon 17 Mar 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

northern pig wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote: Something needs to happen because gates in the region of around 6k will not pay the bills for long.
We will have to seek the advice of London Broncos.The home attendance against Saint's was 1,380 and the game before against Wolves 1,280 I can't work out ,how they sustain Superleague with gates like that!!!
What salaries do they pay? If they pay 2 bob a week then they can support those wages. If like the Bulls the wage bill is around the £200k mark per month as it was last year then they can't.

It also depends if the owner is bridging the funding gap. As Bulls have no owner there isn't anyone to do so.

I wouldn't care about Broncos too much, it's Bradford I'm concerned about.
[quote][p][bold]northern pig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: Something needs to happen because gates in the region of around 6k will not pay the bills for long.[/p][/quote]We will have to seek the advice of London Broncos.The home attendance against Saint's was 1,380 and the game before against Wolves 1,280 I can't work out ,how they sustain Superleague with gates like that!!![/p][/quote]What salaries do they pay? If they pay 2 bob a week then they can support those wages. If like the Bulls the wage bill is around the £200k mark per month as it was last year then they can't. It also depends if the owner is bridging the funding gap. As Bulls have no owner there isn't anyone to do so. I wouldn't care about Broncos too much, it's Bradford I'm concerned about. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 2

9:58am Mon 17 Mar 14

mellambypie says...

I thought the players representing Bradford yesterday showed lots of guts and courage. But with only one prop, that,s the equivalent of starting a cricket match with eleven bowlers, you're not going to win! Huddersfield can only play what's in front of them and they did that well but Mr. Leatherbarrow needs a bit more reffing tuition.
As a Bulls supporter I just want this sorting one way or another, the RFL told us last week this would be resolved by the end of this week, no resolution. I'm sure if Mrs. Koukash had wanted to put money into Catalan or London they wouldn't be dragging their feet! As a paying member of the rugby community for over 40 years can I post a vote of no confidence in the board members of the RFL.
COYB
I thought the players representing Bradford yesterday showed lots of guts and courage. But with only one prop, that,s the equivalent of starting a cricket match with eleven bowlers, you're not going to win! Huddersfield can only play what's in front of them and they did that well but Mr. Leatherbarrow needs a bit more reffing tuition. As a Bulls supporter I just want this sorting one way or another, the RFL told us last week this would be resolved by the end of this week, no resolution. I'm sure if Mrs. Koukash had wanted to put money into Catalan or London they wouldn't be dragging their feet! As a paying member of the rugby community for over 40 years can I post a vote of no confidence in the board members of the RFL. COYB mellambypie
  • Score: 27

10:15am Mon 17 Mar 14

Loadofbull70 says...

Mike Strutter wrote:
What a pantomime.

First we have Richard Lamb splattering himself all over twitter and now we have Mandy (I aspire to own a RL club on behalf of my husband) Koukash launching a PR exercise before the bids are announced.

I have absolutely no doubt she will get it but why not lie low until the results are announced ?
What a pathetic post ! at long last we have a glimmer of hope after all the armature hopeless boards & 10 bob millionaires we may finally have a person who is willing to invest & take over the club & you find reason to criticise.

You need to get real man take a long look at yourself. Good to see Mr & Mrs Koukash at the game yesterday its obvious she has a passion about taking us over lets hope its signed sealed & delivered this week. Franny can then get to work recruiting some more troops.
[quote][p][bold]Mike Strutter[/bold] wrote: What a pantomime. First we have Richard Lamb splattering himself all over twitter and now we have Mandy (I aspire to own a RL club on behalf of my husband) Koukash launching a PR exercise before the bids are announced. I have absolutely no doubt she will get it but why not lie low until the results are announced ?[/p][/quote]What a pathetic post ! at long last we have a glimmer of hope after all the armature hopeless boards & 10 bob millionaires we may finally have a person who is willing to invest & take over the club & you find reason to criticise. You need to get real man take a long look at yourself. Good to see Mr & Mrs Koukash at the game yesterday its obvious she has a passion about taking us over lets hope its signed sealed & delivered this week. Franny can then get to work recruiting some more troops. Loadofbull70
  • Score: 10

11:01am Mon 17 Mar 14

vbfg says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Something needs to happen because gates in the region of around 6k will not pay the bills for long.
You may recall from recent news stories that they're not paying the bills now.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: Something needs to happen because gates in the region of around 6k will not pay the bills for long.[/p][/quote]You may recall from recent news stories that they're not paying the bills now. vbfg
  • Score: -2

11:20am Mon 17 Mar 14

cleckbull says...

Loadofbull70 wrote:
Mike Strutter wrote:
What a pantomime.

First we have Richard Lamb splattering himself all over twitter and now we have Mandy (I aspire to own a RL club on behalf of my husband) Koukash launching a PR exercise before the bids are announced.

I have absolutely no doubt she will get it but why not lie low until the results are announced ?
What a pathetic post ! at long last we have a glimmer of hope after all the armature hopeless boards & 10 bob millionaires we may finally have a person who is willing to invest & take over the club & you find reason to criticise.

You need to get real man take a long look at yourself. Good to see Mr & Mrs Koukash at the game yesterday its obvious she has a passion about taking us over lets hope its signed sealed & delivered this week. Franny can then get to work recruiting some more troops.
Hear Hear
Clear off Strutter.....you are obviously a pathetic troll whose comments we can do without on here at the momentMrs Koukash is the only person willing to invest in our club and we are praying she is given the go ahead sooner rather than later
COYB
[quote][p][bold]Loadofbull70[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike Strutter[/bold] wrote: What a pantomime. First we have Richard Lamb splattering himself all over twitter and now we have Mandy (I aspire to own a RL club on behalf of my husband) Koukash launching a PR exercise before the bids are announced. I have absolutely no doubt she will get it but why not lie low until the results are announced ?[/p][/quote]What a pathetic post ! at long last we have a glimmer of hope after all the armature hopeless boards & 10 bob millionaires we may finally have a person who is willing to invest & take over the club & you find reason to criticise. You need to get real man take a long look at yourself. Good to see Mr & Mrs Koukash at the game yesterday its obvious she has a passion about taking us over lets hope its signed sealed & delivered this week. Franny can then get to work recruiting some more troops.[/p][/quote]Hear Hear Clear off Strutter.....you are obviously a pathetic troll whose comments we can do without on here at the momentMrs Koukash is the only person willing to invest in our club and we are praying she is given the go ahead sooner rather than later COYB cleckbull
  • Score: 8

11:27am Mon 17 Mar 14

axelf1963 says...

All hail kou££££££££
££££ I do hear deal is done but not with her :-p
All hail kou££££££££ ££££ I do hear deal is done but not with her :-p axelf1963
  • Score: -16

11:56am Mon 17 Mar 14

northern pig says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
northern pig wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote: Something needs to happen because gates in the region of around 6k will not pay the bills for long.
We will have to seek the advice of London Broncos.The home attendance against Saint's was 1,380 and the game before against Wolves 1,280 I can't work out ,how they sustain Superleague with gates like that!!!
What salaries do they pay? If they pay 2 bob a week then they can support those wages. If like the Bulls the wage bill is around the £200k mark per month as it was last year then they can't.

It also depends if the owner is bridging the funding gap. As Bulls have no owner there isn't anyone to do so.

I wouldn't care about Broncos too much, it's Bradford I'm concerned about.
IT's Bradford i care about too make no mistake about it!!.Broncos moved to Barnet cos they were skint.When they played us recently,the had two new recruits makeing their debuts who had been signed from the NRL you don't get guys with first grade experience for peanuts!!. In my opinion there is something not right it stinks the house out.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]northern pig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: Something needs to happen because gates in the region of around 6k will not pay the bills for long.[/p][/quote]We will have to seek the advice of London Broncos.The home attendance against Saint's was 1,380 and the game before against Wolves 1,280 I can't work out ,how they sustain Superleague with gates like that!!![/p][/quote]What salaries do they pay? If they pay 2 bob a week then they can support those wages. If like the Bulls the wage bill is around the £200k mark per month as it was last year then they can't. It also depends if the owner is bridging the funding gap. As Bulls have no owner there isn't anyone to do so. I wouldn't care about Broncos too much, it's Bradford I'm concerned about.[/p][/quote]IT's Bradford i care about too make no mistake about it!!.Broncos moved to Barnet cos they were skint.When they played us recently,the had two new recruits makeing their debuts who had been signed from the NRL you don't get guys with first grade experience for peanuts!!. In my opinion there is something not right it stinks the house out. northern pig
  • Score: 6

1:10pm Mon 17 Mar 14

axelf1963 says...

Another verse for the Viking song :

We're in the money,
There'll be no Koukash,
What a joke of a club we really are.
Another verse for the Viking song : We're in the money, There'll be no Koukash, What a joke of a club we really are. axelf1963
  • Score: -8

1:11pm Mon 17 Mar 14

raisemeup says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
northern pig wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote: Something needs to happen because gates in the region of around 6k will not pay the bills for long.
We will have to seek the advice of London Broncos.The home attendance against Saint's was 1,380 and the game before against Wolves 1,280 I can't work out ,how they sustain Superleague with gates like that!!!
What salaries do they pay? If they pay 2 bob a week then they can support those wages. If like the Bulls the wage bill is around the £200k mark per month as it was last year then they can't.

It also depends if the owner is bridging the funding gap. As Bulls have no owner there isn't anyone to do so.

I wouldn't care about Broncos too much, it's Bradford I'm concerned about.
Disregard the £200 k TVOR talks about. = £2.4m per year poppycock!
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]northern pig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: Something needs to happen because gates in the region of around 6k will not pay the bills for long.[/p][/quote]We will have to seek the advice of London Broncos.The home attendance against Saint's was 1,380 and the game before against Wolves 1,280 I can't work out ,how they sustain Superleague with gates like that!!![/p][/quote]What salaries do they pay? If they pay 2 bob a week then they can support those wages. If like the Bulls the wage bill is around the £200k mark per month as it was last year then they can't. It also depends if the owner is bridging the funding gap. As Bulls have no owner there isn't anyone to do so. I wouldn't care about Broncos too much, it's Bradford I'm concerned about.[/p][/quote]Disregard the £200 k TVOR talks about. = £2.4m per year poppycock! raisemeup
  • Score: -2

1:31pm Mon 17 Mar 14

axelf1963 says...

Hello Brian does your wife know your on here when you should be washing up like a good boy ?
Hello Brian does your wife know your on here when you should be washing up like a good boy ? axelf1963
  • Score: -6

1:35pm Mon 17 Mar 14

axelf1963 says...

Deja vu, I remember the days when Viking and his sheep sorry friends were all hailing OK only for them all to turn on him and slag him off later.
Be warned DR when you are at a Salford game and she is all alone at the bulls getting abused by the fans around her.
I have heard the DR is that fed up he is not getting the crowds at Salford it might be him wanting out, Thick and thin Doc not when it does not suit.
Deja vu, I remember the days when Viking and his sheep sorry friends were all hailing OK only for them all to turn on him and slag him off later. Be warned DR when you are at a Salford game and she is all alone at the bulls getting abused by the fans around her. I have heard the DR is that fed up he is not getting the crowds at Salford it might be him wanting out, Thick and thin Doc not when it does not suit. axelf1963
  • Score: -5

1:43pm Mon 17 Mar 14

cleckbull says...

axelf1963 wrote:
Another verse for the Viking song :

We're in the money,
There'll be no Koukash,
What a joke of a club we really are.
boring half wit zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[quote][p][bold]axelf1963[/bold] wrote: Another verse for the Viking song : We're in the money, There'll be no Koukash, What a joke of a club we really are.[/p][/quote]boring half wit zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz cleckbull
  • Score: 9

1:45pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Mr Perks says...

After seeing a brief interview with Mandy on the news, she doesn't really sound like she's the sharpest knife in the cutlery drawer. If she was an independent woman with a business admin background then fair enough, but she is so obviously a front for her husband it's embarrassing!
After seeing a brief interview with Mandy on the news, she doesn't really sound like she's the sharpest knife in the cutlery drawer. If she was an independent woman with a business admin background then fair enough, but she is so obviously a front for her husband it's embarrassing! Mr Perks
  • Score: 1

1:59pm Mon 17 Mar 14

theoutsider says...

bingleymoor wrote:
As people on here know I am not a Bulls fan, just someone who wants sport in Bradford to do well. I am interested in the business side of things, especially the loss of Council Tax payers £200k!!
The latest round of bidding for ownership just seems tome to be a recipe for another re-run of heartache with yet more wanabees. Why do these people air their comments in public instead of waiting for an outcome. First we have Mr. Lamb with his high profile twitter account telling all and sundry he has just sneezed and so on and now the fair Mandy who s bidding for herself but yet her husband keeps using words like "we" and "our" when talking about the bid. He today says that next season will be the one when the Club goes forward. Good, great news, but before then this season needs financing and Creditors must be paid off, at least £1.5million.
Is there a guarantee the Bulls will survive?, no but without massive investment there is ever chance they wont. When you`re in a position to control that investment you are in a position to control one of the relegation spots, (or not) and Salford could then be safe. Just a personal observation.
So we are saying that £200k of Council Tax payers money is lost?. Thats not what I am hearing from our erstwhile and learned Council Leader Green. I am sure we can take its as Salford Red that the first thing Mrs Koocash will have to do is divvy up to Dave and the 0000's of hard pressed Council Tax payers who are hit with a Council tax rise 14-15.

Do you seriously think for one moment that our £200k is lost?...
[quote][p][bold]bingleymoor[/bold] wrote: As people on here know I am not a Bulls fan, just someone who wants sport in Bradford to do well. I am interested in the business side of things, especially the loss of Council Tax payers £200k!! The latest round of bidding for ownership just seems tome to be a recipe for another re-run of heartache with yet more wanabees. Why do these people air their comments in public instead of waiting for an outcome. First we have Mr. Lamb with his high profile twitter account telling all and sundry he has just sneezed and so on and now the fair Mandy who s bidding for herself but yet her husband keeps using words like "we" and "our" when talking about the bid. He today says that next season will be the one when the Club goes forward. Good, great news, but before then this season needs financing and Creditors must be paid off, at least £1.5million. Is there a guarantee the Bulls will survive?, no but without massive investment there is ever chance they wont. When you`re in a position to control that investment you are in a position to control one of the relegation spots, (or not) and Salford could then be safe. Just a personal observation.[/p][/quote]So we are saying that £200k of Council Tax payers money is lost?. Thats not what I am hearing from our erstwhile and learned Council Leader Green. I am sure we can take its as Salford Red that the first thing Mrs Koocash will have to do is divvy up to Dave and the 0000's of hard pressed Council Tax payers who are hit with a Council tax rise 14-15. Do you seriously think for one moment that our £200k is lost?... theoutsider
  • Score: -1

2:08pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Arhmen Noleg says...

raisemeup wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
northern pig wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote: Something needs to happen because gates in the region of around 6k will not pay the bills for long.
We will have to seek the advice of London Broncos.The home attendance against Saint's was 1,380 and the game before against Wolves 1,280 I can't work out ,how they sustain Superleague with gates like that!!!
What salaries do they pay? If they pay 2 bob a week then they can support those wages. If like the Bulls the wage bill is around the £200k mark per month as it was last year then they can't.

It also depends if the owner is bridging the funding gap. As Bulls have no owner there isn't anyone to do so.

I wouldn't care about Broncos too much, it's Bradford I'm concerned about.
Disregard the £200 k TVOR talks about. = £2.4m per year poppycock!
I have argued before with you on the £2.4 mlllion wages bill the Bulls have.
It is absolutely spot on with players at £1.8 m the salary gap.
Reduced bit with leavers in recent weeks but remains an Albatross with no £650k sky dosh this year.
The wages annual bill has been quoted by Guilfoyle ad in the current crises.
OK took the wages bill UP.
With a known £650k reduction in income for each of 2013 and 2014 seasons

You questioned my sanity when you should have been questioning OK"s.
Any way Raise the matter has hope.
Thanks to Brian Noble.
My friend and yours.

Lets hope so.
[quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]northern pig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: Something needs to happen because gates in the region of around 6k will not pay the bills for long.[/p][/quote]We will have to seek the advice of London Broncos.The home attendance against Saint's was 1,380 and the game before against Wolves 1,280 I can't work out ,how they sustain Superleague with gates like that!!![/p][/quote]What salaries do they pay? If they pay 2 bob a week then they can support those wages. If like the Bulls the wage bill is around the £200k mark per month as it was last year then they can't. It also depends if the owner is bridging the funding gap. As Bulls have no owner there isn't anyone to do so. I wouldn't care about Broncos too much, it's Bradford I'm concerned about.[/p][/quote]Disregard the £200 k TVOR talks about. = £2.4m per year poppycock![/p][/quote]I have argued before with you on the £2.4 mlllion wages bill the Bulls have. It is absolutely spot on with players at £1.8 m the salary gap. Reduced bit with leavers in recent weeks but remains an Albatross with no £650k sky dosh this year. The wages annual bill has been quoted by Guilfoyle ad in the current crises. OK took the wages bill UP. With a known £650k reduction in income for each of 2013 and 2014 seasons You questioned my sanity when you should have been questioning OK"s. Any way Raise the matter has hope. Thanks to Brian Noble. My friend and yours. Lets hope so. Arhmen Noleg
  • Score: -1

2:31pm Mon 17 Mar 14

side of beef says...

mellambypie wrote:
I thought the players representing Bradford yesterday showed lots of guts and courage. But with only one prop, that,s the equivalent of starting a cricket match with eleven bowlers, you're not going to win! Huddersfield can only play what's in front of them and they did that well but Mr. Leatherbarrow needs a bit more reffing tuition.
As a Bulls supporter I just want this sorting one way or another, the RFL told us last week this would be resolved by the end of this week, no resolution. I'm sure if Mrs. Koukash had wanted to put money into Catalan or London they wouldn't be dragging their feet! As a paying member of the rugby community for over 40 years can I post a vote of no confidence in the board members of the RFL.
COYB
Agree totally we'll said coyb we have been fighting rfl all along they are disgusting
[quote][p][bold]mellambypie[/bold] wrote: I thought the players representing Bradford yesterday showed lots of guts and courage. But with only one prop, that,s the equivalent of starting a cricket match with eleven bowlers, you're not going to win! Huddersfield can only play what's in front of them and they did that well but Mr. Leatherbarrow needs a bit more reffing tuition. As a Bulls supporter I just want this sorting one way or another, the RFL told us last week this would be resolved by the end of this week, no resolution. I'm sure if Mrs. Koukash had wanted to put money into Catalan or London they wouldn't be dragging their feet! As a paying member of the rugby community for over 40 years can I post a vote of no confidence in the board members of the RFL. COYB[/p][/quote]Agree totally we'll said coyb we have been fighting rfl all along they are disgusting side of beef
  • Score: 7

2:48pm Mon 17 Mar 14

collos25 says...

theoutsider wrote:
bingleymoor wrote:
As people on here know I am not a Bulls fan, just someone who wants sport in Bradford to do well. I am interested in the business side of things, especially the loss of Council Tax payers £200k!!
The latest round of bidding for ownership just seems tome to be a recipe for another re-run of heartache with yet more wanabees. Why do these people air their comments in public instead of waiting for an outcome. First we have Mr. Lamb with his high profile twitter account telling all and sundry he has just sneezed and so on and now the fair Mandy who s bidding for herself but yet her husband keeps using words like "we" and "our" when talking about the bid. He today says that next season will be the one when the Club goes forward. Good, great news, but before then this season needs financing and Creditors must be paid off, at least £1.5million.
Is there a guarantee the Bulls will survive?, no but without massive investment there is ever chance they wont. When you`re in a position to control that investment you are in a position to control one of the relegation spots, (or not) and Salford could then be safe. Just a personal observation.
So we are saying that £200k of Council Tax payers money is lost?. Thats not what I am hearing from our erstwhile and learned Council Leader Green. I am sure we can take its as Salford Red that the first thing Mrs Koocash will have to do is divvy up to Dave and the 0000's of hard pressed Council Tax payers who are hit with a Council tax rise 14-15.

Do you seriously think for one moment that our £200k is lost?...
Yes
[quote][p][bold]theoutsider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bingleymoor[/bold] wrote: As people on here know I am not a Bulls fan, just someone who wants sport in Bradford to do well. I am interested in the business side of things, especially the loss of Council Tax payers £200k!! The latest round of bidding for ownership just seems tome to be a recipe for another re-run of heartache with yet more wanabees. Why do these people air their comments in public instead of waiting for an outcome. First we have Mr. Lamb with his high profile twitter account telling all and sundry he has just sneezed and so on and now the fair Mandy who s bidding for herself but yet her husband keeps using words like "we" and "our" when talking about the bid. He today says that next season will be the one when the Club goes forward. Good, great news, but before then this season needs financing and Creditors must be paid off, at least £1.5million. Is there a guarantee the Bulls will survive?, no but without massive investment there is ever chance they wont. When you`re in a position to control that investment you are in a position to control one of the relegation spots, (or not) and Salford could then be safe. Just a personal observation.[/p][/quote]So we are saying that £200k of Council Tax payers money is lost?. Thats not what I am hearing from our erstwhile and learned Council Leader Green. I am sure we can take its as Salford Red that the first thing Mrs Koocash will have to do is divvy up to Dave and the 0000's of hard pressed Council Tax payers who are hit with a Council tax rise 14-15. Do you seriously think for one moment that our £200k is lost?...[/p][/quote]Yes collos25
  • Score: 4

2:52pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

raisemeup wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
northern pig wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote: Something needs to happen because gates in the region of around 6k will not pay the bills for long.
We will have to seek the advice of London Broncos.The home attendance against Saint's was 1,380 and the game before against Wolves 1,280 I can't work out ,how they sustain Superleague with gates like that!!!
What salaries do they pay? If they pay 2 bob a week then they can support those wages. If like the Bulls the wage bill is around the £200k mark per month as it was last year then they can't. It also depends if the owner is bridging the funding gap. As Bulls have no owner there isn't anyone to do so. I wouldn't care about Broncos too much, it's Bradford I'm concerned about.
Disregard the £200 k TVOR talks about. = £2.4m per year poppycock!
Tell that to the T&A who have been quoting it for months. I'm presuming you think the wage bill is £20k and have no idea why all these debts have been racked up as OK ran a tight ship.
[quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]northern pig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: Something needs to happen because gates in the region of around 6k will not pay the bills for long.[/p][/quote]We will have to seek the advice of London Broncos.The home attendance against Saint's was 1,380 and the game before against Wolves 1,280 I can't work out ,how they sustain Superleague with gates like that!!![/p][/quote]What salaries do they pay? If they pay 2 bob a week then they can support those wages. If like the Bulls the wage bill is around the £200k mark per month as it was last year then they can't. It also depends if the owner is bridging the funding gap. As Bulls have no owner there isn't anyone to do so. I wouldn't care about Broncos too much, it's Bradford I'm concerned about.[/p][/quote]Disregard the £200 k TVOR talks about. = £2.4m per year poppycock![/p][/quote]Tell that to the T&A who have been quoting it for months. I'm presuming you think the wage bill is £20k and have no idea why all these debts have been racked up as OK ran a tight ship. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: -3

2:52pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Bone_idle18 says...

I'm sure the £200k will be paid back - same amount it cost to sort out 140-odd horses in holmewood! And a fraction of the money wasted on paying union reps.

Hardly a patch on what council has wasted on artists impression and non-elected representatives who are trying and failing to regenerate the city.

It's about 50p per tax payer at the end of the day.

Plus, the loan has benefit a lot of people who support professional sport in the city!

And, in any case, has it ever been stated the loan has been written off?
I'm sure the £200k will be paid back - same amount it cost to sort out 140-odd horses in holmewood! And a fraction of the money wasted on paying union reps. Hardly a patch on what council has wasted on artists impression and non-elected representatives who are trying and failing to regenerate the city. It's about 50p per tax payer at the end of the day. Plus, the loan has benefit a lot of people who support professional sport in the city! And, in any case, has it ever been stated the loan has been written off? Bone_idle18
  • Score: 0

2:54pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

collos25 wrote:
theoutsider wrote:
bingleymoor wrote: As people on here know I am not a Bulls fan, just someone who wants sport in Bradford to do well. I am interested in the business side of things, especially the loss of Council Tax payers £200k!! The latest round of bidding for ownership just seems tome to be a recipe for another re-run of heartache with yet more wanabees. Why do these people air their comments in public instead of waiting for an outcome. First we have Mr. Lamb with his high profile twitter account telling all and sundry he has just sneezed and so on and now the fair Mandy who s bidding for herself but yet her husband keeps using words like "we" and "our" when talking about the bid. He today says that next season will be the one when the Club goes forward. Good, great news, but before then this season needs financing and Creditors must be paid off, at least £1.5million. Is there a guarantee the Bulls will survive?, no but without massive investment there is ever chance they wont. When you`re in a position to control that investment you are in a position to control one of the relegation spots, (or not) and Salford could then be safe. Just a personal observation.
So we are saying that £200k of Council Tax payers money is lost?. Thats not what I am hearing from our erstwhile and learned Council Leader Green. I am sure we can take its as Salford Red that the first thing Mrs Koocash will have to do is divvy up to Dave and the 0000's of hard pressed Council Tax payers who are hit with a Council tax rise 14-15. Do you seriously think for one moment that our £200k is lost?...
Yes
Look at Cllr Green on twitter and in the T&A, he will not confirm that the loan has a cast iron guarantee or that it will be repaid because it hasn't and it won't.
[quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]theoutsider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bingleymoor[/bold] wrote: As people on here know I am not a Bulls fan, just someone who wants sport in Bradford to do well. I am interested in the business side of things, especially the loss of Council Tax payers £200k!! The latest round of bidding for ownership just seems tome to be a recipe for another re-run of heartache with yet more wanabees. Why do these people air their comments in public instead of waiting for an outcome. First we have Mr. Lamb with his high profile twitter account telling all and sundry he has just sneezed and so on and now the fair Mandy who s bidding for herself but yet her husband keeps using words like "we" and "our" when talking about the bid. He today says that next season will be the one when the Club goes forward. Good, great news, but before then this season needs financing and Creditors must be paid off, at least £1.5million. Is there a guarantee the Bulls will survive?, no but without massive investment there is ever chance they wont. When you`re in a position to control that investment you are in a position to control one of the relegation spots, (or not) and Salford could then be safe. Just a personal observation.[/p][/quote]So we are saying that £200k of Council Tax payers money is lost?. Thats not what I am hearing from our erstwhile and learned Council Leader Green. I am sure we can take its as Salford Red that the first thing Mrs Koocash will have to do is divvy up to Dave and the 0000's of hard pressed Council Tax payers who are hit with a Council tax rise 14-15. Do you seriously think for one moment that our £200k is lost?...[/p][/quote]Yes[/p][/quote]Look at Cllr Green on twitter and in the T&A, he will not confirm that the loan has a cast iron guarantee or that it will be repaid because it hasn't and it won't. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: -1

2:58pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Bone_idle18 wrote:
I'm sure the £200k will be paid back - same amount it cost to sort out 140-odd horses in holmewood! And a fraction of the money wasted on paying union reps. Hardly a patch on what council has wasted on artists impression and non-elected representatives who are trying and failing to regenerate the city. It's about 50p per tax payer at the end of the day. Plus, the loan has benefit a lot of people who support professional sport in the city! And, in any case, has it ever been stated the loan has been written off?
The loan probably went in and out of the club and it probably never benefitted the Bulls.
[quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: I'm sure the £200k will be paid back - same amount it cost to sort out 140-odd horses in holmewood! And a fraction of the money wasted on paying union reps. Hardly a patch on what council has wasted on artists impression and non-elected representatives who are trying and failing to regenerate the city. It's about 50p per tax payer at the end of the day. Plus, the loan has benefit a lot of people who support professional sport in the city! And, in any case, has it ever been stated the loan has been written off?[/p][/quote]The loan probably went in and out of the club and it probably never benefitted the Bulls. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 4

3:04pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Paul from Idle says...

bingleymoor wrote:
As people on here know I am not a Bulls fan, just someone who wants sport in Bradford to do well. I am interested in the business side of things, especially the loss of Council Tax payers £200k!!
The latest round of bidding for ownership just seems tome to be a recipe for another re-run of heartache with yet more wanabees. Why do these people air their comments in public instead of waiting for an outcome. First we have Mr. Lamb with his high profile twitter account telling all and sundry he has just sneezed and so on and now the fair Mandy who s bidding for herself but yet her husband keeps using words like "we" and "our" when talking about the bid. He today says that next season will be the one when the Club goes forward. Good, great news, but before then this season needs financing and Creditors must be paid off, at least £1.5million.
Is there a guarantee the Bulls will survive?, no but without massive investment there is ever chance they wont. When you`re in a position to control that investment you are in a position to control one of the relegation spots, (or not) and Salford could then be safe. Just a personal observation.
The debts have been cleared hence the point deduction so who ever gets it has a clean slate. Maybe unfair etc etc but thats the law.
Looking at the club now it would be a good buy if the new owner has cash to help it along to safety and then to start reciving SKY funding once more.
[quote][p][bold]bingleymoor[/bold] wrote: As people on here know I am not a Bulls fan, just someone who wants sport in Bradford to do well. I am interested in the business side of things, especially the loss of Council Tax payers £200k!! The latest round of bidding for ownership just seems tome to be a recipe for another re-run of heartache with yet more wanabees. Why do these people air their comments in public instead of waiting for an outcome. First we have Mr. Lamb with his high profile twitter account telling all and sundry he has just sneezed and so on and now the fair Mandy who s bidding for herself but yet her husband keeps using words like "we" and "our" when talking about the bid. He today says that next season will be the one when the Club goes forward. Good, great news, but before then this season needs financing and Creditors must be paid off, at least £1.5million. Is there a guarantee the Bulls will survive?, no but without massive investment there is ever chance they wont. When you`re in a position to control that investment you are in a position to control one of the relegation spots, (or not) and Salford could then be safe. Just a personal observation.[/p][/quote]The debts have been cleared hence the point deduction so who ever gets it has a clean slate. Maybe unfair etc etc but thats the law. Looking at the club now it would be a good buy if the new owner has cash to help it along to safety and then to start reciving SKY funding once more. Paul from Idle
  • Score: -3

3:06pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Paul from Idle says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
northern pig wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote: Something needs to happen because gates in the region of around 6k will not pay the bills for long.
We will have to seek the advice of London Broncos.The home attendance against Saint's was 1,380 and the game before against Wolves 1,280 I can't work out ,how they sustain Superleague with gates like that!!!
What salaries do they pay? If they pay 2 bob a week then they can support those wages. If like the Bulls the wage bill is around the £200k mark per month as it was last year then they can't.

It also depends if the owner is bridging the funding gap. As Bulls have no owner there isn't anyone to do so.

I wouldn't care about Broncos too much, it's Bradford I'm concerned about.
Where do you get £200k per month?
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]northern pig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: Something needs to happen because gates in the region of around 6k will not pay the bills for long.[/p][/quote]We will have to seek the advice of London Broncos.The home attendance against Saint's was 1,380 and the game before against Wolves 1,280 I can't work out ,how they sustain Superleague with gates like that!!![/p][/quote]What salaries do they pay? If they pay 2 bob a week then they can support those wages. If like the Bulls the wage bill is around the £200k mark per month as it was last year then they can't. It also depends if the owner is bridging the funding gap. As Bulls have no owner there isn't anyone to do so. I wouldn't care about Broncos too much, it's Bradford I'm concerned about.[/p][/quote]Where do you get £200k per month? Paul from Idle
  • Score: 2

3:12pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Bone_idle18 says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Bone_idle18 wrote:
I'm sure the £200k will be paid back - same amount it cost to sort out 140-odd horses in holmewood! And a fraction of the money wasted on paying union reps. Hardly a patch on what council has wasted on artists impression and non-elected representatives who are trying and failing to regenerate the city. It's about 50p per tax payer at the end of the day. Plus, the loan has benefit a lot of people who support professional sport in the city! And, in any case, has it ever been stated the loan has been written off?
The loan probably went in and out of the club and it probably never benefitted the Bulls.
It was a commercial load, so if the funds have been misappropriated, I would hope the council take appropriate action. Or even the police.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: I'm sure the £200k will be paid back - same amount it cost to sort out 140-odd horses in holmewood! And a fraction of the money wasted on paying union reps. Hardly a patch on what council has wasted on artists impression and non-elected representatives who are trying and failing to regenerate the city. It's about 50p per tax payer at the end of the day. Plus, the loan has benefit a lot of people who support professional sport in the city! And, in any case, has it ever been stated the loan has been written off?[/p][/quote]The loan probably went in and out of the club and it probably never benefitted the Bulls.[/p][/quote]It was a commercial load, so if the funds have been misappropriated, I would hope the council take appropriate action. Or even the police. Bone_idle18
  • Score: 2

3:13pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Bowlingboy says...

Some amount of Fraud has gone on with OK Bulls
it is nearly a certainty, how can so much money can "go missing" in a 12 month period is beyond me,

The £200k from the council is bare faced cheek as far as I am concerned,
The fact that the joker went on to put another bid in adds fuel to the fire.

But as with a lot of the crookedness that is allowed to go on within the city of Bradford for fear of upsetting the apple cart as Racial harmony goes it will be left alone to pass.

Hopefully The next owner has money to make up for the wrongs of the past and put a squad together with strength and depth enough to compete
Some amount of Fraud has gone on with OK Bulls it is nearly a certainty, how can so much money can "go missing" in a 12 month period is beyond me, The £200k from the council is bare faced cheek as far as I am concerned, The fact that the joker went on to put another bid in adds fuel to the fire. But as with a lot of the crookedness that is allowed to go on within the city of Bradford for fear of upsetting the apple cart as Racial harmony goes it will be left alone to pass. Hopefully The next owner has money to make up for the wrongs of the past and put a squad together with strength and depth enough to compete Bowlingboy
  • Score: 7

3:13pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Bone_idle18 says...

Bone_idle18 wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
Bone_idle18 wrote:
I'm sure the £200k will be paid back - same amount it cost to sort out 140-odd horses in holmewood! And a fraction of the money wasted on paying union reps. Hardly a patch on what council has wasted on artists impression and non-elected representatives who are trying and failing to regenerate the city. It's about 50p per tax payer at the end of the day. Plus, the loan has benefit a lot of people who support professional sport in the city! And, in any case, has it ever been stated the loan has been written off?
The loan probably went in and out of the club and it probably never benefitted the Bulls.
It was a commercial load, so if the funds have been misappropriated, I would hope the council take appropriate action. Or even the police.
loan even.

I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't benefit the club though. We need a proper board who can run the club properly and above board. Not juggling finances to get by.

Need to pay HMRC so won't pay players, need to pay players so won't pay so-and-so etc. It's not sustainable.
[quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: I'm sure the £200k will be paid back - same amount it cost to sort out 140-odd horses in holmewood! And a fraction of the money wasted on paying union reps. Hardly a patch on what council has wasted on artists impression and non-elected representatives who are trying and failing to regenerate the city. It's about 50p per tax payer at the end of the day. Plus, the loan has benefit a lot of people who support professional sport in the city! And, in any case, has it ever been stated the loan has been written off?[/p][/quote]The loan probably went in and out of the club and it probably never benefitted the Bulls.[/p][/quote]It was a commercial load, so if the funds have been misappropriated, I would hope the council take appropriate action. Or even the police.[/p][/quote]loan even. I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't benefit the club though. We need a proper board who can run the club properly and above board. Not juggling finances to get by. Need to pay HMRC so won't pay players, need to pay players so won't pay so-and-so etc. It's not sustainable. Bone_idle18
  • Score: 2

3:26pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Paul from Idle wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
northern pig wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote: Something needs to happen because gates in the region of around 6k will not pay the bills for long.
We will have to seek the advice of London Broncos.The home attendance against Saint's was 1,380 and the game before against Wolves 1,280 I can't work out ,how they sustain Superleague with gates like that!!!
What salaries do they pay? If they pay 2 bob a week then they can support those wages. If like the Bulls the wage bill is around the £200k mark per month as it was last year then they can't. It also depends if the owner is bridging the funding gap. As Bulls have no owner there isn't anyone to do so. I wouldn't care about Broncos too much, it's Bradford I'm concerned about.
Where do you get £200k per month?
In July it was quoted at £200k. That may have dropped but I would be suprised if it has dropped by more than a quarter so still well over £150k per month.

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[quote][p][bold]Paul from Idle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]northern pig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: Something needs to happen because gates in the region of around 6k will not pay the bills for long.[/p][/quote]We will have to seek the advice of London Broncos.The home attendance against Saint's was 1,380 and the game before against Wolves 1,280 I can't work out ,how they sustain Superleague with gates like that!!![/p][/quote]What salaries do they pay? If they pay 2 bob a week then they can support those wages. If like the Bulls the wage bill is around the £200k mark per month as it was last year then they can't. It also depends if the owner is bridging the funding gap. As Bulls have no owner there isn't anyone to do so. I wouldn't care about Broncos too much, it's Bradford I'm concerned about.[/p][/quote]Where do you get £200k per month?[/p][/quote]In July it was quoted at £200k. That may have dropped but I would be suprised if it has dropped by more than a quarter so still well over £150k per month. http://www.thetelegr aphandargus.co.uk/ne ws/10581170.RFL_join _Khan_in_insisting_B radford_Bulls_are_no t_back_on_the_brink/ ?ref=rc Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: -2

3:38pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Sad bull says...

Paul from Idle wrote:
bingleymoor wrote:
As people on here know I am not a Bulls fan, just someone who wants sport in Bradford to do well. I am interested in the business side of things, especially the loss of Council Tax payers £200k!!
The latest round of bidding for ownership just seems tome to be a recipe for another re-run of heartache with yet more wanabees. Why do these people air their comments in public instead of waiting for an outcome. First we have Mr. Lamb with his high profile twitter account telling all and sundry he has just sneezed and so on and now the fair Mandy who s bidding for herself but yet her husband keeps using words like "we" and "our" when talking about the bid. He today says that next season will be the one when the Club goes forward. Good, great news, but before then this season needs financing and Creditors must be paid off, at least £1.5million.
Is there a guarantee the Bulls will survive?, no but without massive investment there is ever chance they wont. When you`re in a position to control that investment you are in a position to control one of the relegation spots, (or not) and Salford could then be safe. Just a personal observation.
The debts have been cleared hence the point deduction so who ever gets it has a clean slate. Maybe unfair etc etc but thats the law.
Looking at the club now it would be a good buy if the new owner has cash to help it along to safety and then to start reciving SKY funding once more.
How have the debts been cleared when it is still in administration ?

As I understand it the points deduction was for going into administration and any buyer can appeal against the points deduction once they have bought the club and made appropriate arrangements with the creditors.
[quote][p][bold]Paul from Idle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bingleymoor[/bold] wrote: As people on here know I am not a Bulls fan, just someone who wants sport in Bradford to do well. I am interested in the business side of things, especially the loss of Council Tax payers £200k!! The latest round of bidding for ownership just seems tome to be a recipe for another re-run of heartache with yet more wanabees. Why do these people air their comments in public instead of waiting for an outcome. First we have Mr. Lamb with his high profile twitter account telling all and sundry he has just sneezed and so on and now the fair Mandy who s bidding for herself but yet her husband keeps using words like "we" and "our" when talking about the bid. He today says that next season will be the one when the Club goes forward. Good, great news, but before then this season needs financing and Creditors must be paid off, at least £1.5million. Is there a guarantee the Bulls will survive?, no but without massive investment there is ever chance they wont. When you`re in a position to control that investment you are in a position to control one of the relegation spots, (or not) and Salford could then be safe. Just a personal observation.[/p][/quote]The debts have been cleared hence the point deduction so who ever gets it has a clean slate. Maybe unfair etc etc but thats the law. Looking at the club now it would be a good buy if the new owner has cash to help it along to safety and then to start reciving SKY funding once more.[/p][/quote]How have the debts been cleared when it is still in administration ? As I understand it the points deduction was for going into administration and any buyer can appeal against the points deduction once they have bought the club and made appropriate arrangements with the creditors. Sad bull
  • Score: 7

3:38pm Mon 17 Mar 14

bartsbull says...

All i can say to the guys is they did there best you can not play this game without forward power and that is where we lacked momentum

The ref and his officals were the worst i have ever seen in many years of watching the game the ref had no idea.

We knew we were going to have a hard game but bad decisions do not help and this is what is spoiling our great game

I do hope the koukash family saw the passion we have for our club and is the successful winer and we can turn our fortunes round players staff and supporters have given there all and we deserve some good luck wehave had plenty of bad luck over the last two hard years so COYB let beat HFC n Sunday
All i can say to the guys is they did there best you can not play this game without forward power and that is where we lacked momentum The ref and his officals were the worst i have ever seen in many years of watching the game the ref had no idea. We knew we were going to have a hard game but bad decisions do not help and this is what is spoiling our great game I do hope the koukash family saw the passion we have for our club and is the successful winer and we can turn our fortunes round players staff and supporters have given there all and we deserve some good luck wehave had plenty of bad luck over the last two hard years so COYB let beat HFC n Sunday bartsbull
  • Score: 5

3:56pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Loyalbull1981 says...

200K divded by the current Bradford population and Based on only 50% of people in Bradford actually paying taxes (and that being generous) would mean each tax payer has lost £1.30 ish for that loan, which you never know might come back to the council one day. I know its the principle of the matter but i dont know why people seem to be losing so much sleep over it. The council make that back in a month over stupid parking and bus lane fines so i wouldnt worry too much people. As i say i know its the principle of he matter but do put it into perspective, losing that 200k versus keeping the bulls going and keeping lots of people in jobs who in turn pay tax back for their wage earned and means extra visitors to the city each week , i know what i would choose
200K divded by the current Bradford population and Based on only 50% of people in Bradford actually paying taxes (and that being generous) would mean each tax payer has lost £1.30 ish for that loan, which you never know might come back to the council one day. I know its the principle of the matter but i dont know why people seem to be losing so much sleep over it. The council make that back in a month over stupid parking and bus lane fines so i wouldnt worry too much people. As i say i know its the principle of he matter but do put it into perspective, losing that 200k versus keeping the bulls going and keeping lots of people in jobs who in turn pay tax back for their wage earned and means extra visitors to the city each week , i know what i would choose Loyalbull1981
  • Score: 2

4:14pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Loyalbull1981 wrote:
200K divded by the current Bradford population and Based on only 50% of people in Bradford actually paying taxes (and that being generous) would mean each tax payer has lost £1.30 ish for that loan, which you never know might come back to the council one day. I know its the principle of the matter but i dont know why people seem to be losing so much sleep over it. The council make that back in a month over stupid parking and bus lane fines so i wouldnt worry too much people. As i say i know its the principle of he matter but do put it into perspective, losing that 200k versus keeping the bulls going and keeping lots of people in jobs who in turn pay tax back for their wage earned and means extra visitors to the city each week , i know what i would choose
It's more the underhand manor it was given. It was kept quiet and effectively handed over in a brown envelope at a time massive cuts were being brought in, jobs were being lost and council tax was being put up.

As the club went into admin no accounts will ever be prepared so the audit trail of where this money was paid and where it ended up is totally unknown. If it was used to run the Bulls in their hour of need is questionable.

It also says alot about the council and the use of public funds when they can't confirm that the loan is cast iron guaranteed and if the money will ever get paid back.

I seem to remember not so long back, Bradford council gave £50k to Leeds to host a cricket match which ended up being lost, after also spending £100k on a civic reception for a team of match fixing cheats known as the Pakistan Cricket Team. 3 of them proven guilty and sent down for no balls on order. Who sanctioned this? Cllrs who wanted to meet their idols? Same with the Bulls loan, seeing as it was a Labour council and a Labour MP was a director, a former labour council leader was also a director along with other Bradford labour party members it stinks to high heaven.
[quote][p][bold]Loyalbull1981[/bold] wrote: 200K divded by the current Bradford population and Based on only 50% of people in Bradford actually paying taxes (and that being generous) would mean each tax payer has lost £1.30 ish for that loan, which you never know might come back to the council one day. I know its the principle of the matter but i dont know why people seem to be losing so much sleep over it. The council make that back in a month over stupid parking and bus lane fines so i wouldnt worry too much people. As i say i know its the principle of he matter but do put it into perspective, losing that 200k versus keeping the bulls going and keeping lots of people in jobs who in turn pay tax back for their wage earned and means extra visitors to the city each week , i know what i would choose[/p][/quote]It's more the underhand manor it was given. It was kept quiet and effectively handed over in a brown envelope at a time massive cuts were being brought in, jobs were being lost and council tax was being put up. As the club went into admin no accounts will ever be prepared so the audit trail of where this money was paid and where it ended up is totally unknown. If it was used to run the Bulls in their hour of need is questionable. It also says alot about the council and the use of public funds when they can't confirm that the loan is cast iron guaranteed and if the money will ever get paid back. I seem to remember not so long back, Bradford council gave £50k to Leeds to host a cricket match which ended up being lost, after also spending £100k on a civic reception for a team of match fixing cheats known as the Pakistan Cricket Team. 3 of them proven guilty and sent down for no balls on order. Who sanctioned this? Cllrs who wanted to meet their idols? Same with the Bulls loan, seeing as it was a Labour council and a Labour MP was a director, a former labour council leader was also a director along with other Bradford labour party members it stinks to high heaven. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: -2

4:24pm Mon 17 Mar 14

theoutsider says...

On the £200k owed to Council Tax Payers - can I suggest that we all give a collective salute to Bradford Council and David Green and apply the same slack set up financial principals to paying our Council Tax. 'Forget' to pay one month of Council tax (say the last month) they could not possibly take us all to court. At the same time the next local elections DONT VOTE FOR ANY OF THEM AND WE'LL TAKE BACK CITY HALL for the people and restore some Pride and Dignity back into this City and Local politics.
On the £200k owed to Council Tax Payers - can I suggest that we all give a collective salute to Bradford Council and David Green and apply the same slack set up financial principals to paying our Council Tax. 'Forget' to pay one month of Council tax (say the last month) they could not possibly take us all to court. At the same time the next local elections DONT VOTE FOR ANY OF THEM AND WE'LL TAKE BACK CITY HALL for the people and restore some Pride and Dignity back into this City and Local politics. theoutsider
  • Score: 0

4:33pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Bone_idle18 says...

theoutsider wrote:
On the £200k owed to Council Tax Payers - can I suggest that we all give a collective salute to Bradford Council and David Green and apply the same slack set up financial principals to paying our Council Tax. 'Forget' to pay one month of Council tax (say the last month) they could not possibly take us all to court. At the same time the next local elections DONT VOTE FOR ANY OF THEM AND WE'LL TAKE BACK CITY HALL for the people and restore some Pride and Dignity back into this City and Local politics.
More likely end up with a council full of Respect muppets and a feeling the current lot weren't that bad.
[quote][p][bold]theoutsider[/bold] wrote: On the £200k owed to Council Tax Payers - can I suggest that we all give a collective salute to Bradford Council and David Green and apply the same slack set up financial principals to paying our Council Tax. 'Forget' to pay one month of Council tax (say the last month) they could not possibly take us all to court. At the same time the next local elections DONT VOTE FOR ANY OF THEM AND WE'LL TAKE BACK CITY HALL for the people and restore some Pride and Dignity back into this City and Local politics.[/p][/quote]More likely end up with a council full of Respect muppets and a feeling the current lot weren't that bad. Bone_idle18
  • Score: -2

4:48pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

On the basis it's only £200k, I guess you'll be happy if I don't pay my council tax whilst I live in Bradford. After all it's only a few quid extra to everyone else.
On the basis it's only £200k, I guess you'll be happy if I don't pay my council tax whilst I live in Bradford. After all it's only a few quid extra to everyone else. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: -3

5:02pm Mon 17 Mar 14

cleckbull says...

Mr Perks wrote:
After seeing a brief interview with Mandy on the news, she doesn't really sound like she's the sharpest knife in the cutlery drawer. If she was an independent woman with a business admin background then fair enough, but she is so obviously a front for her husband it's embarrassing!
Who cares
Shes the only one with any financial clout who can get us out of this terrible mess
Hail Mrs Koukash
[quote][p][bold]Mr Perks[/bold] wrote: After seeing a brief interview with Mandy on the news, she doesn't really sound like she's the sharpest knife in the cutlery drawer. If she was an independent woman with a business admin background then fair enough, but she is so obviously a front for her husband it's embarrassing![/p][/quote]Who cares Shes the only one with any financial clout who can get us out of this terrible mess Hail Mrs Koukash cleckbull
  • Score: 5

5:05pm Mon 17 Mar 14

cleckbull says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
On the basis it's only £200k, I guess you'll be happy if I don't pay my council tax whilst I live in Bradford. After all it's only a few quid extra to everyone else.
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[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: On the basis it's only £200k, I guess you'll be happy if I don't pay my council tax whilst I live in Bradford. After all it's only a few quid extra to everyone else.[/p][/quote]zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzz boring cleckbull
  • Score: 8

5:09pm Mon 17 Mar 14

nosher says...

northern pig wrote:
nosher wrote:
Thanks Anderson, we noticed YOUR team laying on and slowing the game down. Just shut it.

Saw him at the game yesterday, he looks slimmer than his playing days. Classic gag from my old mate Nigel Wood when he was CEO at blue sox.

" I went to see my doctor, who told me to lose 20 stone of useless fat. So I sold Paul Anderson to the bulls" boom boom lol
Paul Anderson,was a fantastic player for Bradford .He will always be one of ours. He was one of legendary'awesome foursome' take off your Red Amber and Black glasses and become a proper student of the game.Like most of the people that post on Bulls forum sites!!!
Some on here need to get a sense of humour lol. Legendary is used far too frequently. He was GOOD in a team at the top that rolled over smaller teams. A bit like yesterday. Don't mention the word legendary for that. It should be used for the likes of Keith mumby and Kevin sinfield.
[quote][p][bold]northern pig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nosher[/bold] wrote: Thanks Anderson, we noticed YOUR team laying on and slowing the game down. Just shut it. Saw him at the game yesterday, he looks slimmer than his playing days. Classic gag from my old mate Nigel Wood when he was CEO at blue sox. " I went to see my doctor, who told me to lose 20 stone of useless fat. So I sold Paul Anderson to the bulls" boom boom lol[/p][/quote]Paul Anderson,was a fantastic player for Bradford .He will always be one of ours. He was one of legendary'awesome foursome' take off your Red Amber and Black glasses and become a proper student of the game.Like most of the people that post on Bulls forum sites!!![/p][/quote]Some on here need to get a sense of humour lol. Legendary is used far too frequently. He was GOOD in a team at the top that rolled over smaller teams. A bit like yesterday. Don't mention the word legendary for that. It should be used for the likes of Keith mumby and Kevin sinfield. nosher
  • Score: -1

5:39pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Bullcity says...

Much talking & speculation re newowners.
We need a conclsion as promised this week.
I hope the most wealthy bidder is successful.
We need the whole debt clearing , we may then get the points back.
We also need to buy some players so we can avoid the drop
The support will come if the team is on the up.
Is this too much to ask for I hope not.
This wonderful set of supporters deserve this . The wonderful players who are still here deserve this. The coaching staff and the remaining management deserve this .
Much talking & speculation re newowners. We need a conclsion as promised this week. I hope the most wealthy bidder is successful. We need the whole debt clearing , we may then get the points back. We also need to buy some players so we can avoid the drop The support will come if the team is on the up. Is this too much to ask for I hope not. This wonderful set of supporters deserve this . The wonderful players who are still here deserve this. The coaching staff and the remaining management deserve this . Bullcity
  • Score: 6

6:53pm Mon 17 Mar 14

axlef1963 says...

Just seen on itv that there wont be a decision till Wednesday at the earliest.For gods sake what on earth do the clowns at red hall do all day apart from sitting on there ars#s.They had all the bids in Thursday so why the delay oh I forgot is the RFL im talking about pure joke.On a brighter note wasn't it heart warming to see all true BULLS FANS clap and cheer the lads off at half and full time yesterday.This shows the players that the fans will stay loyal an I suspect it wil not have gone un-noticed by a certain Koukash family.We may be down but by god WE ARE NOT BEATON COME ON YOU BULLS
Just seen on itv that there wont be a decision till Wednesday at the earliest.For gods sake what on earth do the clowns at red hall do all day apart from sitting on there ars#s.They had all the bids in Thursday so why the delay oh I forgot is the RFL im talking about pure joke.On a brighter note wasn't it heart warming to see all true BULLS FANS clap and cheer the lads off at half and full time yesterday.This shows the players that the fans will stay loyal an I suspect it wil not have gone un-noticed by a certain Koukash family.We may be down but by god WE ARE NOT BEATON COME ON YOU BULLS axlef1963
  • Score: 9

8:54pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Arhmen Noleg says...

Paul from Idle wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
northern pig wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote: Something needs to happen because gates in the region of around 6k will not pay the bills for long.
We will have to seek the advice of London Broncos.The home attendance against Saint's was 1,380 and the game before against Wolves 1,280 I can't work out ,how they sustain Superleague with gates like that!!!
What salaries do they pay? If they pay 2 bob a week then they can support those wages. If like the Bulls the wage bill is around the £200k mark per month as it was last year then they can't.

It also depends if the owner is bridging the funding gap. As Bulls have no owner there isn't anyone to do so.

I wouldn't care about Broncos too much, it's Bradford I'm concerned about.
Where do you get £200k per month?
From a set of accounts to 31.8.13.OK"s first and only year.
And in the previous year quoted by Gargoyle, all over the media by him.
And in this paper by Ross.

Raismeup wll not have tt.
Its a matter of fact.

Why don't you ring Wilson and ask him yourselves if you believe us not
[quote][p][bold]Paul from Idle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]northern pig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: Something needs to happen because gates in the region of around 6k will not pay the bills for long.[/p][/quote]We will have to seek the advice of London Broncos.The home attendance against Saint's was 1,380 and the game before against Wolves 1,280 I can't work out ,how they sustain Superleague with gates like that!!![/p][/quote]What salaries do they pay? If they pay 2 bob a week then they can support those wages. If like the Bulls the wage bill is around the £200k mark per month as it was last year then they can't. It also depends if the owner is bridging the funding gap. As Bulls have no owner there isn't anyone to do so. I wouldn't care about Broncos too much, it's Bradford I'm concerned about.[/p][/quote]Where do you get £200k per month?[/p][/quote]From a set of accounts to 31.8.13.OK"s first and only year. And in the previous year quoted by Gargoyle, all over the media by him. And in this paper by Ross. Raismeup wll not have tt. Its a matter of fact. Why don't you ring Wilson and ask him yourselves if you believe us not Arhmen Noleg
  • Score: 0

9:12pm Mon 17 Mar 14

oddshapedballs says...

nosher wrote:
Thanks Anderson, we noticed YOUR team laying on and slowing the game down. Just shut it.

Saw him at the game yesterday, he looks slimmer than his playing days. Classic gag from my old mate Nigel Wood when he was CEO at blue sox.

" I went to see my doctor, who told me to lose 20 stone of useless fat. So I sold Paul Anderson to the bulls" boom boom lol
No wonder your score is so low if u consider nigel wood a mate!
[quote][p][bold]nosher[/bold] wrote: Thanks Anderson, we noticed YOUR team laying on and slowing the game down. Just shut it. Saw him at the game yesterday, he looks slimmer than his playing days. Classic gag from my old mate Nigel Wood when he was CEO at blue sox. " I went to see my doctor, who told me to lose 20 stone of useless fat. So I sold Paul Anderson to the bulls" boom boom lol[/p][/quote]No wonder your score is so low if u consider nigel wood a mate! oddshapedballs
  • Score: -2

9:35pm Mon 17 Mar 14

nosher says...

Do you know him.
Do you know him. nosher
  • Score: 0

10:49pm Mon 17 Mar 14

bradfordbronco says...

axelf1963 wrote:
Videoref wrote:
Where do you keep getting this 'conflict of interest' from? Haven't heard you comment about your Rhinos chairman and his Sheffield/Gateshead/


Hull/Wakefield wife having a 'conflict of interest' so why does it apply to the Koukash's? Talk out of your mouth please
Owning and CEO a different role.
Yes players can go on loan now but is it likely they would let Chase or another of that calibre go unless it was owned by same people and would save bulls from relegation ?
What happens if they draw each other in challenge cup ? Sean Long may have a wager :-p
Calm down Axelf1963. Koukash hasn't taken over just yet. The Bulls are still in administration you'll be pleased to hear. Go make up some new verses to your song. You might not have much time left, with a bit of luck the Bulls might finally have an owner who can sort out the cash flow problems and enable the club to get back on its feet

I can almost hear the panic from you in some of your posts from today. Good news for the Bulls is the last thing you want to hear.
[quote][p][bold]axelf1963[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Videoref[/bold] wrote: Where do you keep getting this 'conflict of interest' from? Haven't heard you comment about your Rhinos chairman and his Sheffield/Gateshead/ Hull/Wakefield wife having a 'conflict of interest' so why does it apply to the Koukash's? Talk out of your mouth please[/p][/quote]Owning and CEO a different role. Yes players can go on loan now but is it likely they would let Chase or another of that calibre go unless it was owned by same people and would save bulls from relegation ? What happens if they draw each other in challenge cup ? Sean Long may have a wager :-p[/p][/quote]Calm down Axelf1963. Koukash hasn't taken over just yet. The Bulls are still in administration you'll be pleased to hear. Go make up some new verses to your song. You might not have much time left, with a bit of luck the Bulls might finally have an owner who can sort out the cash flow problems and enable the club to get back on its feet I can almost hear the panic from you in some of your posts from today. Good news for the Bulls is the last thing you want to hear. bradfordbronco
  • Score: 2

7:51am Tue 18 Mar 14

axelf1963 says...

ITS NOT THE DOCTOR AND WIFE :-P
ITS NOT THE DOCTOR AND WIFE :-P axelf1963
  • Score: -2

9:30am Tue 18 Mar 14

Nick Harrison says...

Sorry to be a doom and gloom merchant. I am surprised that those on here who are business experts have not picked up on it. Dr K may be worth in the region of £900M. Sadly Mrs K isnt. She is involed in a company that is being liquidated and has in the region of £133,000 unpaid CCJs dating back to 2011 - she doesnt pay her company bills! Perhaps she is a perfect investor for the Bulls and continues the trend of others who have put themselves forward but how the hell can someone involved in a Company in such a poor state pass a RFL fit and proper person test? Rose tinted glasses perhaps detract from the reality
Sorry to be a doom and gloom merchant. I am surprised that those on here who are business experts have not picked up on it. Dr K may be worth in the region of £900M. Sadly Mrs K isnt. She is involed in a company that is being liquidated and has in the region of £133,000 unpaid CCJs dating back to 2011 - she doesnt pay her company bills! Perhaps she is a perfect investor for the Bulls and continues the trend of others who have put themselves forward but how the hell can someone involved in a Company in such a poor state pass a RFL fit and proper person test? Rose tinted glasses perhaps detract from the reality Nick Harrison
  • Score: 2

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