Signs are good that Stephen Darby will extend his Bradford City stay

Stephen Darby in action at Colchester on Tuesday night

Stephen Darby in action at Colchester on Tuesday night

First published in Sport Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Photograph of the Author by , Bradford City Reporter

Stephen Darby has offered a hint that he wants to stay with City.

The ever-present right back, who has been a consistent performer since being released by Liverpool in 2012, is among a host of players out of contract in the summer.

The club are thought to be very keen on keeping him at Valley Parade – and Darby has indicated that he sees his future with them.

“I’m just concentrating on the football at the moment but I’m really enjoying my time here,” he said.

“The last 18 months have been brilliant and hopefully there will be more to come.”

With Gary Jones laid low by a virus, Darby was given the captain’s armband in Tuesday’s win at Colchester.

He only found out shortly before kick-off when assistant manager Steve Parkin told him to go to the referee’s room for the pre-match briefing.

Darby said: “I didn’t expect it but it was obviously a proud moment to lead the lads out. The last time I was captain was for Liverpool’s reserves.

“But it didn’t really change the way I approached the game there – it’s a cliché but you’ve got 11 captains in the team.

“It’s unfortunate that Gaz picked up a virus. Everyone knows the influence he has on the team.

“But that’s why we have a strong squad. When players are injured or sick, we have others who are more than capable of coming in and doing the job.

“Everyone is in it together and the competition for places is healthy. But I’m sure Gaz will want the armband back for the weekend!”

Darby felt City’s first away win in four months bore similarities with their 3-0 midweek victory at Wycombe last season.

He said: “It was like that. You look back to that game and we started really well and just like this time were 1-0 up in the first 15 minutes.

“We adapted well to the pitch, because it wasn’t the best.

“It was a massive game for us and the lads really dug in. It was a great performance and the three points were deserved.”

* City’s trip to Rotherham has been moved forward a day to Friday, April 11 so it can be shown live on Sky Sports.

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8:26am Thu 13 Mar 14

Farsley Bantam says...

Get him snapped up sharpish!
Get him snapped up sharpish! Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 19

8:50am Thu 13 Mar 14

minkiebantam says...

Defo POY For me so far this season. Sign him up quick smart PP!!
CTID!
Defo POY For me so far this season. Sign him up quick smart PP!! CTID! minkiebantam
  • Score: 14

8:54am Thu 13 Mar 14

realcitygent says...

GREAT NEWS ,FINGERS CROSSED GET HIM SIGNED UP ON 3 YEAR DEAL, WITHOUT DOUBT HE MOST BE IN THE TOP 3 RB IN DIV ,FOR SO A SMALL GUY HE CAN CERTAINLY PUT A TACKLE IN ,LETS HOPE PARKY DOESNT MEDDLE WITH THE TEAM FOR SAT ,AS MUCH AS I LIKE JONES THE BLOKE DOES NEED A REST CARRY ON WITH DOLAN SEE WHAT HE CAN DO ,WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT HIM NOW IF WE ARE THINKING ABOUT SIGNING HIM FULL TIME NEXT SEASON ,I WOULD ALSO REST DOYLE TRY ATKINSON AS DOYLE IS OUT CONTRACT END SEASON ,CANT SEE HIM BEING OFFERED ANOTHER
GREAT NEWS ,FINGERS CROSSED GET HIM SIGNED UP ON 3 YEAR DEAL, WITHOUT DOUBT HE MOST BE IN THE TOP 3 RB IN DIV ,FOR SO A SMALL GUY HE CAN CERTAINLY PUT A TACKLE IN ,LETS HOPE PARKY DOESNT MEDDLE WITH THE TEAM FOR SAT ,AS MUCH AS I LIKE JONES THE BLOKE DOES NEED A REST CARRY ON WITH DOLAN SEE WHAT HE CAN DO ,WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT HIM NOW IF WE ARE THINKING ABOUT SIGNING HIM FULL TIME NEXT SEASON ,I WOULD ALSO REST DOYLE TRY ATKINSON AS DOYLE IS OUT CONTRACT END SEASON ,CANT SEE HIM BEING OFFERED ANOTHER realcitygent
  • Score: -1

9:01am Thu 13 Mar 14

Farsley Bantam says...

realcitygent wrote:
GREAT NEWS ,FINGERS CROSSED GET HIM SIGNED UP ON 3 YEAR DEAL, WITHOUT DOUBT HE MOST BE IN THE TOP 3 RB IN DIV ,FOR SO A SMALL GUY HE CAN CERTAINLY PUT A TACKLE IN ,LETS HOPE PARKY DOESNT MEDDLE WITH THE TEAM FOR SAT ,AS MUCH AS I LIKE JONES THE BLOKE DOES NEED A REST CARRY ON WITH DOLAN SEE WHAT HE CAN DO ,WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT HIM NOW IF WE ARE THINKING ABOUT SIGNING HIM FULL TIME NEXT SEASON ,I WOULD ALSO REST DOYLE TRY ATKINSON AS DOYLE IS OUT CONTRACT END SEASON ,CANT SEE HIM BEING OFFERED ANOTHER
Try using some punctuation and some lower case letters. Do that and your posts won't read as though they are the ramblings of a mad drunk.
[quote][p][bold]realcitygent[/bold] wrote: GREAT NEWS ,FINGERS CROSSED GET HIM SIGNED UP ON 3 YEAR DEAL, WITHOUT DOUBT HE MOST BE IN THE TOP 3 RB IN DIV ,FOR SO A SMALL GUY HE CAN CERTAINLY PUT A TACKLE IN ,LETS HOPE PARKY DOESNT MEDDLE WITH THE TEAM FOR SAT ,AS MUCH AS I LIKE JONES THE BLOKE DOES NEED A REST CARRY ON WITH DOLAN SEE WHAT HE CAN DO ,WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT HIM NOW IF WE ARE THINKING ABOUT SIGNING HIM FULL TIME NEXT SEASON ,I WOULD ALSO REST DOYLE TRY ATKINSON AS DOYLE IS OUT CONTRACT END SEASON ,CANT SEE HIM BEING OFFERED ANOTHER[/p][/quote]Try using some punctuation and some lower case letters. Do that and your posts won't read as though they are the ramblings of a mad drunk. Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 35

9:12am Thu 13 Mar 14

realcitygent says...

Farsley Bantam wrote:
realcitygent wrote:
GREAT NEWS ,FINGERS CROSSED GET HIM SIGNED UP ON 3 YEAR DEAL, WITHOUT DOUBT HE MOST BE IN THE TOP 3 RB IN DIV ,FOR SO A SMALL GUY HE CAN CERTAINLY PUT A TACKLE IN ,LETS HOPE PARKY DOESNT MEDDLE WITH THE TEAM FOR SAT ,AS MUCH AS I LIKE JONES THE BLOKE DOES NEED A REST CARRY ON WITH DOLAN SEE WHAT HE CAN DO ,WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT HIM NOW IF WE ARE THINKING ABOUT SIGNING HIM FULL TIME NEXT SEASON ,I WOULD ALSO REST DOYLE TRY ATKINSON AS DOYLE IS OUT CONTRACT END SEASON ,CANT SEE HIM BEING OFFERED ANOTHER
Try using some punctuation and some lower case letters. Do that and your posts won't read as though they are the ramblings of a mad drunk.
always get a **** on here ,farsley bantam you are the one ,does it really matter about the spelling or punctuation marks, have you nothing better to comment on ,you sad person , i bet your one of these people who dont go to games but listen to pulse , try going to one of the games then add something constructive
[quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realcitygent[/bold] wrote: GREAT NEWS ,FINGERS CROSSED GET HIM SIGNED UP ON 3 YEAR DEAL, WITHOUT DOUBT HE MOST BE IN THE TOP 3 RB IN DIV ,FOR SO A SMALL GUY HE CAN CERTAINLY PUT A TACKLE IN ,LETS HOPE PARKY DOESNT MEDDLE WITH THE TEAM FOR SAT ,AS MUCH AS I LIKE JONES THE BLOKE DOES NEED A REST CARRY ON WITH DOLAN SEE WHAT HE CAN DO ,WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT HIM NOW IF WE ARE THINKING ABOUT SIGNING HIM FULL TIME NEXT SEASON ,I WOULD ALSO REST DOYLE TRY ATKINSON AS DOYLE IS OUT CONTRACT END SEASON ,CANT SEE HIM BEING OFFERED ANOTHER[/p][/quote]Try using some punctuation and some lower case letters. Do that and your posts won't read as though they are the ramblings of a mad drunk.[/p][/quote]always get a **** on here ,farsley bantam you are the one ,does it really matter about the spelling or punctuation marks, have you nothing better to comment on ,you sad person , i bet your one of these people who dont go to games but listen to pulse , try going to one of the games then add something constructive realcitygent
  • Score: -30

9:22am Thu 13 Mar 14

Farsley Bantam says...

realcitygent wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
realcitygent wrote: GREAT NEWS ,FINGERS CROSSED GET HIM SIGNED UP ON 3 YEAR DEAL, WITHOUT DOUBT HE MOST BE IN THE TOP 3 RB IN DIV ,FOR SO A SMALL GUY HE CAN CERTAINLY PUT A TACKLE IN ,LETS HOPE PARKY DOESNT MEDDLE WITH THE TEAM FOR SAT ,AS MUCH AS I LIKE JONES THE BLOKE DOES NEED A REST CARRY ON WITH DOLAN SEE WHAT HE CAN DO ,WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT HIM NOW IF WE ARE THINKING ABOUT SIGNING HIM FULL TIME NEXT SEASON ,I WOULD ALSO REST DOYLE TRY ATKINSON AS DOYLE IS OUT CONTRACT END SEASON ,CANT SEE HIM BEING OFFERED ANOTHER
Try using some punctuation and some lower case letters. Do that and your posts won't read as though they are the ramblings of a mad drunk.
always get a **** on here ,farsley bantam you are the one ,does it really matter about the spelling or punctuation marks, have you nothing better to comment on ,you sad person , i bet your one of these people who dont go to games but listen to pulse , try going to one of the games then add something constructive
Read the first comment on the thread. Pretty constructive. And yes I go to most games thanks.

Yes it does make a difference if you use correct grammar and punctuation. It makes all the difference, otherwise everything comes accross as a mindless rant regardless of the content. And whilst we're at it you've used commas when you should have used full stops and sentences start with capital letters. You're welcome.
[quote][p][bold]realcitygent[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realcitygent[/bold] wrote: GREAT NEWS ,FINGERS CROSSED GET HIM SIGNED UP ON 3 YEAR DEAL, WITHOUT DOUBT HE MOST BE IN THE TOP 3 RB IN DIV ,FOR SO A SMALL GUY HE CAN CERTAINLY PUT A TACKLE IN ,LETS HOPE PARKY DOESNT MEDDLE WITH THE TEAM FOR SAT ,AS MUCH AS I LIKE JONES THE BLOKE DOES NEED A REST CARRY ON WITH DOLAN SEE WHAT HE CAN DO ,WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT HIM NOW IF WE ARE THINKING ABOUT SIGNING HIM FULL TIME NEXT SEASON ,I WOULD ALSO REST DOYLE TRY ATKINSON AS DOYLE IS OUT CONTRACT END SEASON ,CANT SEE HIM BEING OFFERED ANOTHER[/p][/quote]Try using some punctuation and some lower case letters. Do that and your posts won't read as though they are the ramblings of a mad drunk.[/p][/quote]always get a **** on here ,farsley bantam you are the one ,does it really matter about the spelling or punctuation marks, have you nothing better to comment on ,you sad person , i bet your one of these people who dont go to games but listen to pulse , try going to one of the games then add something constructive[/p][/quote]Read the first comment on the thread. Pretty constructive. And yes I go to most games thanks. Yes it does make a difference if you use correct grammar and punctuation. It makes all the difference, otherwise everything comes accross as a mindless rant regardless of the content. And whilst we're at it you've used commas when you should have used full stops and sentences start with capital letters. You're welcome. Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 29

9:41am Thu 13 Mar 14

Old Dave says...

Back on thread....

lets hope Darby is signed up quickly. He's the type of solid player that we need long term. Every good team is built from the back. Darby is a class act seemingly off the pitch as well as on. One of maybe half a dozen who I would keep long term.
Back on thread.... lets hope Darby is signed up quickly. He's the type of solid player that we need long term. Every good team is built from the back. Darby is a class act seemingly off the pitch as well as on. One of maybe half a dozen who I would keep long term. Old Dave
  • Score: 19

9:45am Thu 13 Mar 14

Farsley Bantam says...

Old Dave wrote:
Back on thread.... lets hope Darby is signed up quickly. He's the type of solid player that we need long term. Every good team is built from the back. Darby is a class act seemingly off the pitch as well as on. One of maybe half a dozen who I would keep long term.
Agreed. He could be here for years to come a la Wayne Jacobs. Who else would you keep long term?
[quote][p][bold]Old Dave[/bold] wrote: Back on thread.... lets hope Darby is signed up quickly. He's the type of solid player that we need long term. Every good team is built from the back. Darby is a class act seemingly off the pitch as well as on. One of maybe half a dozen who I would keep long term.[/p][/quote]Agreed. He could be here for years to come a la Wayne Jacobs. Who else would you keep long term? Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 2

9:46am Thu 13 Mar 14

BungleMagic says...

realcitygent wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
realcitygent wrote:
GREAT NEWS ,FINGERS CROSSED GET HIM SIGNED UP ON 3 YEAR DEAL, WITHOUT DOUBT HE MOST BE IN THE TOP 3 RB IN DIV ,FOR SO A SMALL GUY HE CAN CERTAINLY PUT A TACKLE IN ,LETS HOPE PARKY DOESNT MEDDLE WITH THE TEAM FOR SAT ,AS MUCH AS I LIKE JONES THE BLOKE DOES NEED A REST CARRY ON WITH DOLAN SEE WHAT HE CAN DO ,WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT HIM NOW IF WE ARE THINKING ABOUT SIGNING HIM FULL TIME NEXT SEASON ,I WOULD ALSO REST DOYLE TRY ATKINSON AS DOYLE IS OUT CONTRACT END SEASON ,CANT SEE HIM BEING OFFERED ANOTHER
Try using some punctuation and some lower case letters. Do that and your posts won't read as though they are the ramblings of a mad drunk.
always get a **** on here ,farsley bantam you are the one ,does it really matter about the spelling or punctuation marks, have you nothing better to comment on ,you sad person , i bet your one of these people who dont go to games but listen to pulse , try going to one of the games then add something constructive
It matters immensely, instead of reading that wall of text, I ignored it.

Much like I ignore the posts where people throw insults around without good cause.

I personally believe it does matter regarding punctuation, spelling and grammar but that's my choice, that though doesn't make somebody a "sad" person, that's just your opinion.
[quote][p][bold]realcitygent[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realcitygent[/bold] wrote: GREAT NEWS ,FINGERS CROSSED GET HIM SIGNED UP ON 3 YEAR DEAL, WITHOUT DOUBT HE MOST BE IN THE TOP 3 RB IN DIV ,FOR SO A SMALL GUY HE CAN CERTAINLY PUT A TACKLE IN ,LETS HOPE PARKY DOESNT MEDDLE WITH THE TEAM FOR SAT ,AS MUCH AS I LIKE JONES THE BLOKE DOES NEED A REST CARRY ON WITH DOLAN SEE WHAT HE CAN DO ,WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT HIM NOW IF WE ARE THINKING ABOUT SIGNING HIM FULL TIME NEXT SEASON ,I WOULD ALSO REST DOYLE TRY ATKINSON AS DOYLE IS OUT CONTRACT END SEASON ,CANT SEE HIM BEING OFFERED ANOTHER[/p][/quote]Try using some punctuation and some lower case letters. Do that and your posts won't read as though they are the ramblings of a mad drunk.[/p][/quote]always get a **** on here ,farsley bantam you are the one ,does it really matter about the spelling or punctuation marks, have you nothing better to comment on ,you sad person , i bet your one of these people who dont go to games but listen to pulse , try going to one of the games then add something constructive[/p][/quote]It matters immensely, instead of reading that wall of text, I ignored it. Much like I ignore the posts where people throw insults around without good cause. I personally believe it does matter regarding punctuation, spelling and grammar but that's my choice, that though doesn't make somebody a "sad" person, that's just your opinion. BungleMagic
  • Score: 13

10:16am Thu 13 Mar 14

Peter300 says...

Farsley Bantam wrote:
realcitygent wrote:
GREAT NEWS ,FINGERS CROSSED GET HIM SIGNED UP ON 3 YEAR DEAL, WITHOUT DOUBT HE MOST BE IN THE TOP 3 RB IN DIV ,FOR SO A SMALL GUY HE CAN CERTAINLY PUT A TACKLE IN ,LETS HOPE PARKY DOESNT MEDDLE WITH THE TEAM FOR SAT ,AS MUCH AS I LIKE JONES THE BLOKE DOES NEED A REST CARRY ON WITH DOLAN SEE WHAT HE CAN DO ,WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT HIM NOW IF WE ARE THINKING ABOUT SIGNING HIM FULL TIME NEXT SEASON ,I WOULD ALSO REST DOYLE TRY ATKINSON AS DOYLE IS OUT CONTRACT END SEASON ,CANT SEE HIM BEING OFFERED ANOTHER
Try using some punctuation and some lower case letters. Do that and your posts won't read as though they are the ramblings of a mad drunk.
Yes and there is no need to shout. Lower case lettering will suffice.
[quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realcitygent[/bold] wrote: GREAT NEWS ,FINGERS CROSSED GET HIM SIGNED UP ON 3 YEAR DEAL, WITHOUT DOUBT HE MOST BE IN THE TOP 3 RB IN DIV ,FOR SO A SMALL GUY HE CAN CERTAINLY PUT A TACKLE IN ,LETS HOPE PARKY DOESNT MEDDLE WITH THE TEAM FOR SAT ,AS MUCH AS I LIKE JONES THE BLOKE DOES NEED A REST CARRY ON WITH DOLAN SEE WHAT HE CAN DO ,WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT HIM NOW IF WE ARE THINKING ABOUT SIGNING HIM FULL TIME NEXT SEASON ,I WOULD ALSO REST DOYLE TRY ATKINSON AS DOYLE IS OUT CONTRACT END SEASON ,CANT SEE HIM BEING OFFERED ANOTHER[/p][/quote]Try using some punctuation and some lower case letters. Do that and your posts won't read as though they are the ramblings of a mad drunk.[/p][/quote]Yes and there is no need to shout. Lower case lettering will suffice. Peter300
  • Score: 5

10:25am Thu 13 Mar 14

Peter300 says...

realcitygent wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
realcitygent wrote:
GREAT NEWS ,FINGERS CROSSED GET HIM SIGNED UP ON 3 YEAR DEAL, WITHOUT DOUBT HE MOST BE IN THE TOP 3 RB IN DIV ,FOR SO A SMALL GUY HE CAN CERTAINLY PUT A TACKLE IN ,LETS HOPE PARKY DOESNT MEDDLE WITH THE TEAM FOR SAT ,AS MUCH AS I LIKE JONES THE BLOKE DOES NEED A REST CARRY ON WITH DOLAN SEE WHAT HE CAN DO ,WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT HIM NOW IF WE ARE THINKING ABOUT SIGNING HIM FULL TIME NEXT SEASON ,I WOULD ALSO REST DOYLE TRY ATKINSON AS DOYLE IS OUT CONTRACT END SEASON ,CANT SEE HIM BEING OFFERED ANOTHER
Try using some punctuation and some lower case letters. Do that and your posts won't read as though they are the ramblings of a mad drunk.
always get a **** on here ,farsley bantam you are the one ,does it really matter about the spelling or punctuation marks, have you nothing better to comment on ,you sad person , i bet your one of these people who dont go to games but listen to pulse , try going to one of the games then add something constructive
Yes, you want your opinion to be readable and understood. Sadly, this is not the case with many posters who have little command of their native language and are therefore unable to express themselves coherently. Your point about being constructive is an interesting one. Criticising the manager for bringing in a loan player who had still to kick a ball for City is hardly constructive. Who would think it is?
[quote][p][bold]realcitygent[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realcitygent[/bold] wrote: GREAT NEWS ,FINGERS CROSSED GET HIM SIGNED UP ON 3 YEAR DEAL, WITHOUT DOUBT HE MOST BE IN THE TOP 3 RB IN DIV ,FOR SO A SMALL GUY HE CAN CERTAINLY PUT A TACKLE IN ,LETS HOPE PARKY DOESNT MEDDLE WITH THE TEAM FOR SAT ,AS MUCH AS I LIKE JONES THE BLOKE DOES NEED A REST CARRY ON WITH DOLAN SEE WHAT HE CAN DO ,WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT HIM NOW IF WE ARE THINKING ABOUT SIGNING HIM FULL TIME NEXT SEASON ,I WOULD ALSO REST DOYLE TRY ATKINSON AS DOYLE IS OUT CONTRACT END SEASON ,CANT SEE HIM BEING OFFERED ANOTHER[/p][/quote]Try using some punctuation and some lower case letters. Do that and your posts won't read as though they are the ramblings of a mad drunk.[/p][/quote]always get a **** on here ,farsley bantam you are the one ,does it really matter about the spelling or punctuation marks, have you nothing better to comment on ,you sad person , i bet your one of these people who dont go to games but listen to pulse , try going to one of the games then add something constructive[/p][/quote]Yes, you want your opinion to be readable and understood. Sadly, this is not the case with many posters who have little command of their native language and are therefore unable to express themselves coherently. Your point about being constructive is an interesting one. Criticising the manager for bringing in a loan player who had still to kick a ball for City is hardly constructive. Who would think it is? Peter300
  • Score: -2

10:26am Thu 13 Mar 14

Peter300 says...

Farsley Bantam wrote:
Old Dave wrote:
Back on thread.... lets hope Darby is signed up quickly. He's the type of solid player that we need long term. Every good team is built from the back. Darby is a class act seemingly off the pitch as well as on. One of maybe half a dozen who I would keep long term.
Agreed. He could be here for years to come a la Wayne Jacobs. Who else would you keep long term?
Johnny Mac for a start. Played really well this season.
[quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Dave[/bold] wrote: Back on thread.... lets hope Darby is signed up quickly. He's the type of solid player that we need long term. Every good team is built from the back. Darby is a class act seemingly off the pitch as well as on. One of maybe half a dozen who I would keep long term.[/p][/quote]Agreed. He could be here for years to come a la Wayne Jacobs. Who else would you keep long term?[/p][/quote]Johnny Mac for a start. Played really well this season. Peter300
  • Score: 0

10:56am Thu 13 Mar 14

bcfc1903 says...

Stephen's certainly been very consistent this season, hopefully he'll sign up and continue to be part of BCFC's rise through the Football League!

Great win at Colchester, great support from the BCFC's fans, fantastic effort on a Tuesday night.
Stephen's certainly been very consistent this season, hopefully he'll sign up and continue to be part of BCFC's rise through the Football League! Great win at Colchester, great support from the BCFC's fans, fantastic effort on a Tuesday night. bcfc1903
  • Score: 8

10:56am Thu 13 Mar 14

bcfc1903 says...

Stephen's certainly been very consistent this season, hopefully he'll sign up and continue to be part of BCFC's rise through the Football League!

Great win at Colchester, great support from the BCFC's fans, fantastic effort on a Tuesday night.
Stephen's certainly been very consistent this season, hopefully he'll sign up and continue to be part of BCFC's rise through the Football League! Great win at Colchester, great support from the BCFC's fans, fantastic effort on a Tuesday night. bcfc1903
  • Score: 5

11:36am Thu 13 Mar 14

Plastic Bantam says...

Peter300 wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
Old Dave wrote: Back on thread.... lets hope Darby is signed up quickly. He's the type of solid player that we need long term. Every good team is built from the back. Darby is a class act seemingly off the pitch as well as on. One of maybe half a dozen who I would keep long term.
Agreed. He could be here for years to come a la Wayne Jacobs. Who else would you keep long term?
Johnny Mac for a start. Played really well this season.
If you think he has played really well this season then you clearly don't go to games..

He has cost us so many games this season with his poor kicking, decision making and inability to command his area..

Yes he makes saves, but all goalkeepers make saves, that is the bear minimum!!
[quote][p][bold]Peter300[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Dave[/bold] wrote: Back on thread.... lets hope Darby is signed up quickly. He's the type of solid player that we need long term. Every good team is built from the back. Darby is a class act seemingly off the pitch as well as on. One of maybe half a dozen who I would keep long term.[/p][/quote]Agreed. He could be here for years to come a la Wayne Jacobs. Who else would you keep long term?[/p][/quote]Johnny Mac for a start. Played really well this season.[/p][/quote]If you think he has played really well this season then you clearly don't go to games.. He has cost us so many games this season with his poor kicking, decision making and inability to command his area.. Yes he makes saves, but all goalkeepers make saves, that is the bear minimum!! Plastic Bantam
  • Score: -2

11:56am Thu 13 Mar 14

Farsley Bantam says...

Plastic Bantam wrote:
Peter300 wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
Old Dave wrote: Back on thread.... lets hope Darby is signed up quickly. He's the type of solid player that we need long term. Every good team is built from the back. Darby is a class act seemingly off the pitch as well as on. One of maybe half a dozen who I would keep long term.
Agreed. He could be here for years to come a la Wayne Jacobs. Who else would you keep long term?
Johnny Mac for a start. Played really well this season.
If you think he has played really well this season then you clearly don't go to games.. He has cost us so many games this season with his poor kicking, decision making and inability to command his area.. Yes he makes saves, but all goalkeepers make saves, that is the bear minimum!!
A bit of a harsh assessment. He has made a couple of blunders but I would hardly say he's 'cost us so many games'. On the contrary he's made several match winning saves that he had no right to save.
Granted his kicking and decision making is not the best but he is absolutely good enough for this level.
[quote][p][bold]Plastic Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peter300[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Dave[/bold] wrote: Back on thread.... lets hope Darby is signed up quickly. He's the type of solid player that we need long term. Every good team is built from the back. Darby is a class act seemingly off the pitch as well as on. One of maybe half a dozen who I would keep long term.[/p][/quote]Agreed. He could be here for years to come a la Wayne Jacobs. Who else would you keep long term?[/p][/quote]Johnny Mac for a start. Played really well this season.[/p][/quote]If you think he has played really well this season then you clearly don't go to games.. He has cost us so many games this season with his poor kicking, decision making and inability to command his area.. Yes he makes saves, but all goalkeepers make saves, that is the bear minimum!![/p][/quote]A bit of a harsh assessment. He has made a couple of blunders but I would hardly say he's 'cost us so many games'. On the contrary he's made several match winning saves that he had no right to save. Granted his kicking and decision making is not the best but he is absolutely good enough for this level. Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 14

1:40pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Old Dave says...

Jonny Mac is a decent shot stopper, but give him time to think and he's poor. Until this season he's been in and out of the team and I think that come the summer he won't be here.
I'd keep the following for next year:
Defenders: Darby, McArdle, Davies, Meredith and McHugh. Bates can go now for me! Taylor I've not seen much of so difficult to judge!

From our midfield I'd keep Dolan and offer Jones a coaching role, maybe player coach, but accept that he wont play anywhere near as much. Bennett might be worth a place if he can come at a reasonable price in terms of wages. I'd have a look at Reid's fitness and maybe keep him on as a backup if that's acceptable to him.We have no chance of keeping Reach as Boro see him as being important to them at Championship level. I'd offload Yeates if this is possible. Doyle, Thompson, would be thanked for their service but let go

Upfront we have Hanson, McLean, McBurnie under contract so they get kept. Gray I cant judge as we've seen so little of him. we've also got the lad from Scarborough (whose name escapes me) coming through.

So that's only 12 at the most that I'd keep from this current squad. We need also to look at quality season long loans like many of our competitors have, not just permanent transfers.
Jonny Mac is a decent shot stopper, but give him time to think and he's poor. Until this season he's been in and out of the team and I think that come the summer he won't be here. I'd keep the following for next year: Defenders: Darby, McArdle, Davies, Meredith and McHugh. Bates can go now for me! Taylor I've not seen much of so difficult to judge! From our midfield I'd keep Dolan and offer Jones a coaching role, maybe player coach, but accept that he wont play anywhere near as much. Bennett might be worth a place if he can come at a reasonable price in terms of wages. I'd have a look at Reid's fitness and maybe keep him on as a backup if that's acceptable to him.We have no chance of keeping Reach as Boro see him as being important to them at Championship level. I'd offload Yeates if this is possible. Doyle, Thompson, would be thanked for their service but let go Upfront we have Hanson, McLean, McBurnie under contract so they get kept. Gray I cant judge as we've seen so little of him. we've also got the lad from Scarborough (whose name escapes me) coming through. So that's only 12 at the most that I'd keep from this current squad. We need also to look at quality season long loans like many of our competitors have, not just permanent transfers. Old Dave
  • Score: 4

1:53pm Thu 13 Mar 14

yorkiebantam says...

Plastic Bantam wrote:
Peter300 wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
Old Dave wrote: Back on thread.... lets hope Darby is signed up quickly. He's the type of solid player that we need long term. Every good team is built from the back. Darby is a class act seemingly off the pitch as well as on. One of maybe half a dozen who I would keep long term.
Agreed. He could be here for years to come a la Wayne Jacobs. Who else would you keep long term?
Johnny Mac for a start. Played really well this season.
If you think he has played really well this season then you clearly don't go to games..

He has cost us so many games this season with his poor kicking, decision making and inability to command his area..

Yes he makes saves, but all goalkeepers make saves, that is the bear minimum!!
Sometimes wonder what a player has to do to be considered worth his place and good value to the team. This in League 2 football and at this level Mac is as good as you are likely to get. Not perfect agreed but certainly does not cost us points defensive blunders in front of him have cost us more points than his mistakes. CTID
[quote][p][bold]Plastic Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peter300[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Dave[/bold] wrote: Back on thread.... lets hope Darby is signed up quickly. He's the type of solid player that we need long term. Every good team is built from the back. Darby is a class act seemingly off the pitch as well as on. One of maybe half a dozen who I would keep long term.[/p][/quote]Agreed. He could be here for years to come a la Wayne Jacobs. Who else would you keep long term?[/p][/quote]Johnny Mac for a start. Played really well this season.[/p][/quote]If you think he has played really well this season then you clearly don't go to games.. He has cost us so many games this season with his poor kicking, decision making and inability to command his area.. Yes he makes saves, but all goalkeepers make saves, that is the bear minimum!![/p][/quote]Sometimes wonder what a player has to do to be considered worth his place and good value to the team. This in League 2 football and at this level Mac is as good as you are likely to get. Not perfect agreed but certainly does not cost us points defensive blunders in front of him have cost us more points than his mistakes. CTID yorkiebantam
  • Score: 7

2:04pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Michael Clayton says...

Old Dave wrote:
Jonny Mac is a decent shot stopper, but give him time to think and he's poor. Until this season he's been in and out of the team and I think that come the summer he won't be here. I'd keep the following for next year: Defenders: Darby, McArdle, Davies, Meredith and McHugh. Bates can go now for me! Taylor I've not seen much of so difficult to judge! From our midfield I'd keep Dolan and offer Jones a coaching role, maybe player coach, but accept that he wont play anywhere near as much. Bennett might be worth a place if he can come at a reasonable price in terms of wages. I'd have a look at Reid's fitness and maybe keep him on as a backup if that's acceptable to him.We have no chance of keeping Reach as Boro see him as being important to them at Championship level. I'd offload Yeates if this is possible. Doyle, Thompson, would be thanked for their service but let go Upfront we have Hanson, McLean, McBurnie under contract so they get kept. Gray I cant judge as we've seen so little of him. we've also got the lad from Scarborough (whose name escapes me) coming through. So that's only 12 at the most that I'd keep from this current squad. We need also to look at quality season long loans like many of our competitors have, not just permanent transfers.
Out of interest, what has led you to believe that Jones should be offered a coaching role? Are you aware of any qualities that would make him a suitable appointment?
[quote][p][bold]Old Dave[/bold] wrote: Jonny Mac is a decent shot stopper, but give him time to think and he's poor. Until this season he's been in and out of the team and I think that come the summer he won't be here. I'd keep the following for next year: Defenders: Darby, McArdle, Davies, Meredith and McHugh. Bates can go now for me! Taylor I've not seen much of so difficult to judge! From our midfield I'd keep Dolan and offer Jones a coaching role, maybe player coach, but accept that he wont play anywhere near as much. Bennett might be worth a place if he can come at a reasonable price in terms of wages. I'd have a look at Reid's fitness and maybe keep him on as a backup if that's acceptable to him.We have no chance of keeping Reach as Boro see him as being important to them at Championship level. I'd offload Yeates if this is possible. Doyle, Thompson, would be thanked for their service but let go Upfront we have Hanson, McLean, McBurnie under contract so they get kept. Gray I cant judge as we've seen so little of him. we've also got the lad from Scarborough (whose name escapes me) coming through. So that's only 12 at the most that I'd keep from this current squad. We need also to look at quality season long loans like many of our competitors have, not just permanent transfers.[/p][/quote]Out of interest, what has led you to believe that Jones should be offered a coaching role? Are you aware of any qualities that would make him a suitable appointment? Michael Clayton
  • Score: -1

2:05pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Old Dave says...

yorkiebantam wrote:
Plastic Bantam wrote:
Peter300 wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
Old Dave wrote: Back on thread.... lets hope Darby is signed up quickly. He's the type of solid player that we need long term. Every good team is built from the back. Darby is a class act seemingly off the pitch as well as on. One of maybe half a dozen who I would keep long term.
Agreed. He could be here for years to come a la Wayne Jacobs. Who else would you keep long term?
Johnny Mac for a start. Played really well this season.
If you think he has played really well this season then you clearly don't go to games..

He has cost us so many games this season with his poor kicking, decision making and inability to command his area..

Yes he makes saves, but all goalkeepers make saves, that is the bear minimum!!
Sometimes wonder what a player has to do to be considered worth his place and good value to the team. This in League 2 football and at this level Mac is as good as you are likely to get. Not perfect agreed but certainly does not cost us points defensive blunders in front of him have cost us more points than his mistakes. CTID
He's far too quiet. He doesn't command his box and many of the "defensive errors" you speak of are as a result of the defenders not being confident about whether he is coming for the ball or not. I have seen numerous better than him at this level this year, and even last! He's a top bloke and a nice lad, but I think we need a better number one than him. Someone who is willing to shout at the defence and take control of the penalty box.
[quote][p][bold]yorkiebantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Plastic Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peter300[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Dave[/bold] wrote: Back on thread.... lets hope Darby is signed up quickly. He's the type of solid player that we need long term. Every good team is built from the back. Darby is a class act seemingly off the pitch as well as on. One of maybe half a dozen who I would keep long term.[/p][/quote]Agreed. He could be here for years to come a la Wayne Jacobs. Who else would you keep long term?[/p][/quote]Johnny Mac for a start. Played really well this season.[/p][/quote]If you think he has played really well this season then you clearly don't go to games.. He has cost us so many games this season with his poor kicking, decision making and inability to command his area.. Yes he makes saves, but all goalkeepers make saves, that is the bear minimum!![/p][/quote]Sometimes wonder what a player has to do to be considered worth his place and good value to the team. This in League 2 football and at this level Mac is as good as you are likely to get. Not perfect agreed but certainly does not cost us points defensive blunders in front of him have cost us more points than his mistakes. CTID[/p][/quote]He's far too quiet. He doesn't command his box and many of the "defensive errors" you speak of are as a result of the defenders not being confident about whether he is coming for the ball or not. I have seen numerous better than him at this level this year, and even last! He's a top bloke and a nice lad, but I think we need a better number one than him. Someone who is willing to shout at the defence and take control of the penalty box. Old Dave
  • Score: 2

2:07pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Old Dave says...

Michael Clayton wrote:
Old Dave wrote:
Jonny Mac is a decent shot stopper, but give him time to think and he's poor. Until this season he's been in and out of the team and I think that come the summer he won't be here. I'd keep the following for next year: Defenders: Darby, McArdle, Davies, Meredith and McHugh. Bates can go now for me! Taylor I've not seen much of so difficult to judge! From our midfield I'd keep Dolan and offer Jones a coaching role, maybe player coach, but accept that he wont play anywhere near as much. Bennett might be worth a place if he can come at a reasonable price in terms of wages. I'd have a look at Reid's fitness and maybe keep him on as a backup if that's acceptable to him.We have no chance of keeping Reach as Boro see him as being important to them at Championship level. I'd offload Yeates if this is possible. Doyle, Thompson, would be thanked for their service but let go Upfront we have Hanson, McLean, McBurnie under contract so they get kept. Gray I cant judge as we've seen so little of him. we've also got the lad from Scarborough (whose name escapes me) coming through. So that's only 12 at the most that I'd keep from this current squad. We need also to look at quality season long loans like many of our competitors have, not just permanent transfers.
Out of interest, what has led you to believe that Jones should be offered a coaching role? Are you aware of any qualities that would make him a suitable appointment?
Are you having a laugh? His leadership qualities alone are worth a spot. he's in his 37th year and has played virtually every game this season until this week, and so his professionalism is an example. Coaching isn't just about technique, its about attitude, fitness and temprament.
[quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Dave[/bold] wrote: Jonny Mac is a decent shot stopper, but give him time to think and he's poor. Until this season he's been in and out of the team and I think that come the summer he won't be here. I'd keep the following for next year: Defenders: Darby, McArdle, Davies, Meredith and McHugh. Bates can go now for me! Taylor I've not seen much of so difficult to judge! From our midfield I'd keep Dolan and offer Jones a coaching role, maybe player coach, but accept that he wont play anywhere near as much. Bennett might be worth a place if he can come at a reasonable price in terms of wages. I'd have a look at Reid's fitness and maybe keep him on as a backup if that's acceptable to him.We have no chance of keeping Reach as Boro see him as being important to them at Championship level. I'd offload Yeates if this is possible. Doyle, Thompson, would be thanked for their service but let go Upfront we have Hanson, McLean, McBurnie under contract so they get kept. Gray I cant judge as we've seen so little of him. we've also got the lad from Scarborough (whose name escapes me) coming through. So that's only 12 at the most that I'd keep from this current squad. We need also to look at quality season long loans like many of our competitors have, not just permanent transfers.[/p][/quote]Out of interest, what has led you to believe that Jones should be offered a coaching role? Are you aware of any qualities that would make him a suitable appointment?[/p][/quote]Are you having a laugh? His leadership qualities alone are worth a spot. he's in his 37th year and has played virtually every game this season until this week, and so his professionalism is an example. Coaching isn't just about technique, its about attitude, fitness and temprament. Old Dave
  • Score: 11

2:11pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Michael Clayton says...

I do laugh at the list of recommendations as posted by our learned friends i.e. the real football experts..

Just imagine the reaction of Mr Parkinson and his staff if one of them turned up at Apperley Bridge with their wish list for next season.

Liken it to someone arriving on their first day in a new job and trying to sort the workforce out.

Plenty of opinions but no insight or understanding as to what goes on. Instead, a knee-jerk reaction to every result and/or newspaper headline.
I do laugh at the list of recommendations as posted by our learned friends i.e. the real football experts.. Just imagine the reaction of Mr Parkinson and his staff if one of them turned up at Apperley Bridge with their wish list for next season. Liken it to someone arriving on their first day in a new job and trying to sort the workforce out. Plenty of opinions but no insight or understanding as to what goes on. Instead, a knee-jerk reaction to every result and/or newspaper headline. Michael Clayton
  • Score: -2

2:33pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Michael Clayton says...

Old Dave wrote:
Michael Clayton wrote:
Old Dave wrote: Jonny Mac is a decent shot stopper, but give him time to think and he's poor. Until this season he's been in and out of the team and I think that come the summer he won't be here. I'd keep the following for next year: Defenders: Darby, McArdle, Davies, Meredith and McHugh. Bates can go now for me! Taylor I've not seen much of so difficult to judge! From our midfield I'd keep Dolan and offer Jones a coaching role, maybe player coach, but accept that he wont play anywhere near as much. Bennett might be worth a place if he can come at a reasonable price in terms of wages. I'd have a look at Reid's fitness and maybe keep him on as a backup if that's acceptable to him.We have no chance of keeping Reach as Boro see him as being important to them at Championship level. I'd offload Yeates if this is possible. Doyle, Thompson, would be thanked for their service but let go Upfront we have Hanson, McLean, McBurnie under contract so they get kept. Gray I cant judge as we've seen so little of him. we've also got the lad from Scarborough (whose name escapes me) coming through. So that's only 12 at the most that I'd keep from this current squad. We need also to look at quality season long loans like many of our competitors have, not just permanent transfers.
Out of interest, what has led you to believe that Jones should be offered a coaching role? Are you aware of any qualities that would make him a suitable appointment?
Are you having a laugh? His leadership qualities alone are worth a spot. he's in his 37th year and has played virtually every game this season until this week, and so his professionalism is an example. Coaching isn't just about technique, its about attitude, fitness and temprament.
Mike Bassett strikes again.

I gave you the opportunity to make known why you think he has the qualities that would make him a suitable appointment.

You make an emotional response that is nothing other than hot air.

***Jones' excellence is not in question***.

In terms of the points you raise: -

Professionalism. Not the responsibility of a coach. The responsibility of the management team in sourcing / mentoring the playing staff. The coach is employed in a professional capacity. What makes Jones any different?

Attitude. Ditto above.

Fitness. The club has a fitness coach.

Temperament - as with professionalism and attitide.

All bases covered

Others: -
(1) Credentials. I will ask you again. What makes him suitable?
(2) It is also about paying someone a salary. If he stays on as a coach, does that mean you are going to sack Parkin or recruit one player less?
[quote][p][bold]Old Dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Dave[/bold] wrote: Jonny Mac is a decent shot stopper, but give him time to think and he's poor. Until this season he's been in and out of the team and I think that come the summer he won't be here. I'd keep the following for next year: Defenders: Darby, McArdle, Davies, Meredith and McHugh. Bates can go now for me! Taylor I've not seen much of so difficult to judge! From our midfield I'd keep Dolan and offer Jones a coaching role, maybe player coach, but accept that he wont play anywhere near as much. Bennett might be worth a place if he can come at a reasonable price in terms of wages. I'd have a look at Reid's fitness and maybe keep him on as a backup if that's acceptable to him.We have no chance of keeping Reach as Boro see him as being important to them at Championship level. I'd offload Yeates if this is possible. Doyle, Thompson, would be thanked for their service but let go Upfront we have Hanson, McLean, McBurnie under contract so they get kept. Gray I cant judge as we've seen so little of him. we've also got the lad from Scarborough (whose name escapes me) coming through. So that's only 12 at the most that I'd keep from this current squad. We need also to look at quality season long loans like many of our competitors have, not just permanent transfers.[/p][/quote]Out of interest, what has led you to believe that Jones should be offered a coaching role? Are you aware of any qualities that would make him a suitable appointment?[/p][/quote]Are you having a laugh? His leadership qualities alone are worth a spot. he's in his 37th year and has played virtually every game this season until this week, and so his professionalism is an example. Coaching isn't just about technique, its about attitude, fitness and temprament.[/p][/quote]Mike Bassett strikes again. I gave you the opportunity to make known why you think he has the qualities that would make him a suitable appointment. You make an emotional response that is nothing other than hot air. ***Jones' excellence is not in question***. In terms of the points you raise: - Professionalism. Not the responsibility of a coach. The responsibility of the management team in sourcing / mentoring the playing staff. The coach is employed in a professional capacity. What makes Jones any different? Attitude. Ditto above. Fitness. The club has a fitness coach. Temperament - as with professionalism and attitide. All bases covered Others: - (1) Credentials. I will ask you again. What makes him suitable? (2) It is also about paying someone a salary. If he stays on as a coach, does that mean you are going to sack Parkin or recruit one player less? Michael Clayton
  • Score: -4

2:46pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Statler4 says...

Michael Clayton wrote:
I do laugh at the list of recommendations as posted by our learned friends i.e. the real football experts..

Just imagine the reaction of Mr Parkinson and his staff if one of them turned up at Apperley Bridge with their wish list for next season.

Liken it to someone arriving on their first day in a new job and trying to sort the workforce out.

Plenty of opinions but no insight or understanding as to what goes on. Instead, a knee-jerk reaction to every result and/or newspaper headline.
Fortunately, the only reason Mr Parkinson and his staff would bother to read these comments would be for the amusement value. If they did happen to stop by they would simply smile, shake their heads and think how little they understand.
[quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: I do laugh at the list of recommendations as posted by our learned friends i.e. the real football experts.. Just imagine the reaction of Mr Parkinson and his staff if one of them turned up at Apperley Bridge with their wish list for next season. Liken it to someone arriving on their first day in a new job and trying to sort the workforce out. Plenty of opinions but no insight or understanding as to what goes on. Instead, a knee-jerk reaction to every result and/or newspaper headline.[/p][/quote]Fortunately, the only reason Mr Parkinson and his staff would bother to read these comments would be for the amusement value. If they did happen to stop by they would simply smile, shake their heads and think how little they understand. Statler4
  • Score: 5

2:49pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Old Dave says...

So having on board an example of a player who is professional isn't an asset to the club when his playing days are ending? All players are consummate professionals and wouldn't benefit at all from a guiding hand? Having recently retired, or senior pros working with the younger players is a proven technique for developing footballers.

I mentioned him as a player coach role. Next season I'd neither have him either as one or the other as age will at some point catch up with him and he is unproven as a coach (if he even wants to go down that route). The dual role would enable him to show his credentials. Having a successful coaching team isn't just about badges and qualifications. It is about having that knack of getting the best out of those around you. I think he has that.

Maybe have him working with the youth team, or mentoring the younger first team players. Let him grow into a role that is right for him and the club. I think losing him would potentially come back and bite us.
So having on board an example of a player who is professional isn't an asset to the club when his playing days are ending? All players are consummate professionals and wouldn't benefit at all from a guiding hand? Having recently retired, or senior pros working with the younger players is a proven technique for developing footballers. I mentioned him as a player coach role. Next season I'd neither have him either as one or the other as age will at some point catch up with him and he is unproven as a coach (if he even wants to go down that route). The dual role would enable him to show his credentials. Having a successful coaching team isn't just about badges and qualifications. It is about having that knack of getting the best out of those around you. I think he has that. Maybe have him working with the youth team, or mentoring the younger first team players. Let him grow into a role that is right for him and the club. I think losing him would potentially come back and bite us. Old Dave
  • Score: 3

3:01pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Michael Clayton says...

Old Dave wrote:
So having on board an example of a player who is professional isn't an asset to the club when his playing days are ending? All players are consummate professionals and wouldn't benefit at all from a guiding hand? Having recently retired, or senior pros working with the younger players is a proven technique for developing footballers. I mentioned him as a player coach role. Next season I'd neither have him either as one or the other as age will at some point catch up with him and he is unproven as a coach (if he even wants to go down that route). The dual role would enable him to show his credentials. Having a successful coaching team isn't just about badges and qualifications. It is about having that knack of getting the best out of those around you. I think he has that. Maybe have him working with the youth team, or mentoring the younger first team players. Let him grow into a role that is right for him and the club. I think losing him would potentially come back and bite us.
Before I respond, your question:-

"All players are consummate professionals and wouldn't benefit at all from a guiding hand?"

I assume that you are being ironic and what you really mean is that all players are NOT consummate professionals?
[quote][p][bold]Old Dave[/bold] wrote: So having on board an example of a player who is professional isn't an asset to the club when his playing days are ending? All players are consummate professionals and wouldn't benefit at all from a guiding hand? Having recently retired, or senior pros working with the younger players is a proven technique for developing footballers. I mentioned him as a player coach role. Next season I'd neither have him either as one or the other as age will at some point catch up with him and he is unproven as a coach (if he even wants to go down that route). The dual role would enable him to show his credentials. Having a successful coaching team isn't just about badges and qualifications. It is about having that knack of getting the best out of those around you. I think he has that. Maybe have him working with the youth team, or mentoring the younger first team players. Let him grow into a role that is right for him and the club. I think losing him would potentially come back and bite us.[/p][/quote]Before I respond, your question:- "All players are consummate professionals and wouldn't benefit at all from a guiding hand?" I assume that you are being ironic and what you really mean is that all players are NOT consummate professionals? Michael Clayton
  • Score: -3

3:28pm Thu 13 Mar 14

torreyman says...

Don't mess around PP sign Darby Quick for once sign a decent young player
Don't mess around PP sign Darby Quick for once sign a decent young player torreyman
  • Score: 1

4:49pm Thu 13 Mar 14

whisky1 says...

Michael Clayton wrote:
Old Dave wrote: So having on board an example of a player who is professional isn't an asset to the club when his playing days are ending? All players are consummate professionals and wouldn't benefit at all from a guiding hand? Having recently retired, or senior pros working with the younger players is a proven technique for developing footballers. I mentioned him as a player coach role. Next season I'd neither have him either as one or the other as age will at some point catch up with him and he is unproven as a coach (if he even wants to go down that route). The dual role would enable him to show his credentials. Having a successful coaching team isn't just about badges and qualifications. It is about having that knack of getting the best out of those around you. I think he has that. Maybe have him working with the youth team, or mentoring the younger first team players. Let him grow into a role that is right for him and the club. I think losing him would potentially come back and bite us.
Before I respond, your question:- "All players are consummate professionals and wouldn't benefit at all from a guiding hand?" I assume that you are being ironic and what you really mean is that all players are NOT consummate professionals?
MC you are getting unusually hot under the collar! I agree that us largely ill informed punters are not really in a position to assess Jonahs qualities as a coach but by the same token my hunch is that he will have a role in football after retiring given his dedication to the playing side of the game. Personally I would love it if he did. He definitely in my top 10 City players of all time...just as much for his never say die attitude as for his playing ability
[quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Dave[/bold] wrote: So having on board an example of a player who is professional isn't an asset to the club when his playing days are ending? All players are consummate professionals and wouldn't benefit at all from a guiding hand? Having recently retired, or senior pros working with the younger players is a proven technique for developing footballers. I mentioned him as a player coach role. Next season I'd neither have him either as one or the other as age will at some point catch up with him and he is unproven as a coach (if he even wants to go down that route). The dual role would enable him to show his credentials. Having a successful coaching team isn't just about badges and qualifications. It is about having that knack of getting the best out of those around you. I think he has that. Maybe have him working with the youth team, or mentoring the younger first team players. Let him grow into a role that is right for him and the club. I think losing him would potentially come back and bite us.[/p][/quote]Before I respond, your question:- "All players are consummate professionals and wouldn't benefit at all from a guiding hand?" I assume that you are being ironic and what you really mean is that all players are NOT consummate professionals?[/p][/quote]MC you are getting unusually hot under the collar! I agree that us largely ill informed punters are not really in a position to assess Jonahs qualities as a coach but by the same token my hunch is that he will have a role in football after retiring given his dedication to the playing side of the game. Personally I would love it if he did. He definitely in my top 10 City players of all time...just as much for his never say die attitude as for his playing ability whisky1
  • Score: 2

5:49pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Michael Clayton says...

whisky1 wrote:
Michael Clayton wrote:
Old Dave wrote: So having on board an example of a player who is professional isn't an asset to the club when his playing days are ending? All players are consummate professionals and wouldn't benefit at all from a guiding hand? Having recently retired, or senior pros working with the younger players is a proven technique for developing footballers. I mentioned him as a player coach role. Next season I'd neither have him either as one or the other as age will at some point catch up with him and he is unproven as a coach (if he even wants to go down that route). The dual role would enable him to show his credentials. Having a successful coaching team isn't just about badges and qualifications. It is about having that knack of getting the best out of those around you. I think he has that. Maybe have him working with the youth team, or mentoring the younger first team players. Let him grow into a role that is right for him and the club. I think losing him would potentially come back and bite us.
Before I respond, your question:- "All players are consummate professionals and wouldn't benefit at all from a guiding hand?" I assume that you are being ironic and what you really mean is that all players are NOT consummate professionals?
MC you are getting unusually hot under the collar! I agree that us largely ill informed punters are not really in a position to assess Jonahs qualities as a coach but by the same token my hunch is that he will have a role in football after retiring given his dedication to the playing side of the game. Personally I would love it if he did. He definitely in my top 10 City players of all time...just as much for his never say die attitude as for his playing ability
Not sure my temperature was going up. I was trying to make reason of what had been previously posted before making a response to someone trying to shoe Jones into a role that does not exist.

Anyway, I saw Jones taking time out with a disabled customer in the club shop. All I can say is that he was absolutely first class. There are a lot of people that have huge respect for the man and I am one of them.

However, I think there is a lot of wishful thinking going on. That is, people desperate for him to stay around. For me, it gets a bit clingy when folks are seen as trying to prescribe a future role for him. Nostalgia and rose-tinted glasses seem to be the key.

It reminds me of what happened at the back end of last season when one guy came on here and said he would lose all respect for Phil Parkinson if he did not sign a new deal. It was pathetic.

The club has an existing management and playing staff. However, we are not talking in terms of a Premier League operation that can afford carry a huge entourage of backroom staff. Football at this level involves surviving on a budget.

I felt sorry for Luke Oliver when he had his contract torn up. The reason I mention this is to remind people of the salutary lesson i.e. football is a business. Jones will make his future with (hopefully) or without Bradford City depending on whether or not he is considered as having a role to play.
[quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Dave[/bold] wrote: So having on board an example of a player who is professional isn't an asset to the club when his playing days are ending? All players are consummate professionals and wouldn't benefit at all from a guiding hand? Having recently retired, or senior pros working with the younger players is a proven technique for developing footballers. I mentioned him as a player coach role. Next season I'd neither have him either as one or the other as age will at some point catch up with him and he is unproven as a coach (if he even wants to go down that route). The dual role would enable him to show his credentials. Having a successful coaching team isn't just about badges and qualifications. It is about having that knack of getting the best out of those around you. I think he has that. Maybe have him working with the youth team, or mentoring the younger first team players. Let him grow into a role that is right for him and the club. I think losing him would potentially come back and bite us.[/p][/quote]Before I respond, your question:- "All players are consummate professionals and wouldn't benefit at all from a guiding hand?" I assume that you are being ironic and what you really mean is that all players are NOT consummate professionals?[/p][/quote]MC you are getting unusually hot under the collar! I agree that us largely ill informed punters are not really in a position to assess Jonahs qualities as a coach but by the same token my hunch is that he will have a role in football after retiring given his dedication to the playing side of the game. Personally I would love it if he did. He definitely in my top 10 City players of all time...just as much for his never say die attitude as for his playing ability[/p][/quote]Not sure my temperature was going up. I was trying to make reason of what had been previously posted before making a response to someone trying to shoe Jones into a role that does not exist. Anyway, I saw Jones taking time out with a disabled customer in the club shop. All I can say is that he was absolutely first class. There are a lot of people that have huge respect for the man and I am one of them. However, I think there is a lot of wishful thinking going on. That is, people desperate for him to stay around. For me, it gets a bit clingy when folks are seen as trying to prescribe a future role for him. Nostalgia and rose-tinted glasses seem to be the key. It reminds me of what happened at the back end of last season when one guy came on here and said he would lose all respect for Phil Parkinson if he did not sign a new deal. It was pathetic. The club has an existing management and playing staff. However, we are not talking in terms of a Premier League operation that can afford carry a huge entourage of backroom staff. Football at this level involves surviving on a budget. I felt sorry for Luke Oliver when he had his contract torn up. The reason I mention this is to remind people of the salutary lesson i.e. football is a business. Jones will make his future with (hopefully) or without Bradford City depending on whether or not he is considered as having a role to play. Michael Clayton
  • Score: 0

5:51pm Thu 13 Mar 14

i miss stallard & murray says...

Old Dave wrote:
yorkiebantam wrote:
Plastic Bantam wrote:
Peter300 wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
Old Dave wrote: Back on thread.... lets hope Darby is signed up quickly. He's the type of solid player that we need long term. Every good team is built from the back. Darby is a class act seemingly off the pitch as well as on. One of maybe half a dozen who I would keep long term.
Agreed. He could be here for years to come a la Wayne Jacobs. Who else would you keep long term?
Johnny Mac for a start. Played really well this season.
If you think he has played really well this season then you clearly don't go to games..

He has cost us so many games this season with his poor kicking, decision making and inability to command his area..

Yes he makes saves, but all goalkeepers make saves, that is the bear minimum!!
Sometimes wonder what a player has to do to be considered worth his place and good value to the team. This in League 2 football and at this level Mac is as good as you are likely to get. Not perfect agreed but certainly does not cost us points defensive blunders in front of him have cost us more points than his mistakes. CTID
He's far too quiet. He doesn't command his box and many of the "defensive errors" you speak of are as a result of the defenders not being confident about whether he is coming for the ball or not. I have seen numerous better than him at this level this year, and even last! He's a top bloke and a nice lad, but I think we need a better number one than him. Someone who is willing to shout at the defence and take control of the penalty box.
We need competition for johnny mac, in fact any keeper we sign shud be under pressure to retain the jersey. once City budget for two competitive keepers it will bring out the best in him.
[quote][p][bold]Old Dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yorkiebantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Plastic Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peter300[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Dave[/bold] wrote: Back on thread.... lets hope Darby is signed up quickly. He's the type of solid player that we need long term. Every good team is built from the back. Darby is a class act seemingly off the pitch as well as on. One of maybe half a dozen who I would keep long term.[/p][/quote]Agreed. He could be here for years to come a la Wayne Jacobs. Who else would you keep long term?[/p][/quote]Johnny Mac for a start. Played really well this season.[/p][/quote]If you think he has played really well this season then you clearly don't go to games.. He has cost us so many games this season with his poor kicking, decision making and inability to command his area.. Yes he makes saves, but all goalkeepers make saves, that is the bear minimum!![/p][/quote]Sometimes wonder what a player has to do to be considered worth his place and good value to the team. This in League 2 football and at this level Mac is as good as you are likely to get. Not perfect agreed but certainly does not cost us points defensive blunders in front of him have cost us more points than his mistakes. CTID[/p][/quote]He's far too quiet. He doesn't command his box and many of the "defensive errors" you speak of are as a result of the defenders not being confident about whether he is coming for the ball or not. I have seen numerous better than him at this level this year, and even last! He's a top bloke and a nice lad, but I think we need a better number one than him. Someone who is willing to shout at the defence and take control of the penalty box.[/p][/quote]We need competition for johnny mac, in fact any keeper we sign shud be under pressure to retain the jersey. once City budget for two competitive keepers it will bring out the best in him. i miss stallard & murray
  • Score: 2

5:59pm Thu 13 Mar 14

bcfcincheshire says...

I think the world of Jones but changing a winning team, especially after a really good performance, is risky and somewhat deflating for anyone deposed. On this occasion Darby should remain captain and Dolan & Doyle should start..there are no guarantees no matter what team is selected but don't change a successful side....unless things are not working out.
Then the change is based on evidence. ...besides which Jones will only just have recovered and needs a few days full training ideally after hia virus.
I think the world of Jones but changing a winning team, especially after a really good performance, is risky and somewhat deflating for anyone deposed. On this occasion Darby should remain captain and Dolan & Doyle should start..there are no guarantees no matter what team is selected but don't change a successful side....unless things are not working out. Then the change is based on evidence. ...besides which Jones will only just have recovered and needs a few days full training ideally after hia virus. bcfcincheshire
  • Score: 3

6:10pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Michael Clayton says...

bcfcincheshire wrote:
I think the world of Jones but changing a winning team, especially after a really good performance, is risky and somewhat deflating for anyone deposed. On this occasion Darby should remain captain and Dolan & Doyle should start..there are no guarantees no matter what team is selected but don't change a successful side....unless things are not working out. Then the change is based on evidence. ...besides which Jones will only just have recovered and needs a few days full training ideally after hia virus.
Absolutely. Team rotation within the squad of players. Nothing wrong with that.
[quote][p][bold]bcfcincheshire[/bold] wrote: I think the world of Jones but changing a winning team, especially after a really good performance, is risky and somewhat deflating for anyone deposed. On this occasion Darby should remain captain and Dolan & Doyle should start..there are no guarantees no matter what team is selected but don't change a successful side....unless things are not working out. Then the change is based on evidence. ...besides which Jones will only just have recovered and needs a few days full training ideally after hia virus.[/p][/quote]Absolutely. Team rotation within the squad of players. Nothing wrong with that. Michael Clayton
  • Score: 1

6:18pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Michael Clayton says...

i miss stallard & murray wrote:
Old Dave wrote:
yorkiebantam wrote:
Plastic Bantam wrote:
Peter300 wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
Old Dave wrote: Back on thread.... lets hope Darby is signed up quickly. He's the type of solid player that we need long term. Every good team is built from the back. Darby is a class act seemingly off the pitch as well as on. One of maybe half a dozen who I would keep long term.
Agreed. He could be here for years to come a la Wayne Jacobs. Who else would you keep long term?
Johnny Mac for a start. Played really well this season.
If you think he has played really well this season then you clearly don't go to games.. He has cost us so many games this season with his poor kicking, decision making and inability to command his area.. Yes he makes saves, but all goalkeepers make saves, that is the bear minimum!!
Sometimes wonder what a player has to do to be considered worth his place and good value to the team. This in League 2 football and at this level Mac is as good as you are likely to get. Not perfect agreed but certainly does not cost us points defensive blunders in front of him have cost us more points than his mistakes. CTID
He's far too quiet. He doesn't command his box and many of the "defensive errors" you speak of are as a result of the defenders not being confident about whether he is coming for the ball or not. I have seen numerous better than him at this level this year, and even last! He's a top bloke and a nice lad, but I think we need a better number one than him. Someone who is willing to shout at the defence and take control of the penalty box.
We need competition for johnny mac, in fact any keeper we sign shud be under pressure to retain the jersey. once City budget for two competitive keepers it will bring out the best in him.
That depends on how Duke McLaughing (as my young daughter still calls him) responds to pressure for the jersey. Some people thrive in those circumstances but others go 'to pot'.

I don't understand the idea of bringing the best out in someone through competition. It is not as though he isn't going to bother diving to make a save because he is unchallenged. However, if it means that he works harder on the training ground then you may have a point.
[quote][p][bold]i miss stallard & murray[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yorkiebantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Plastic Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peter300[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Dave[/bold] wrote: Back on thread.... lets hope Darby is signed up quickly. He's the type of solid player that we need long term. Every good team is built from the back. Darby is a class act seemingly off the pitch as well as on. One of maybe half a dozen who I would keep long term.[/p][/quote]Agreed. He could be here for years to come a la Wayne Jacobs. Who else would you keep long term?[/p][/quote]Johnny Mac for a start. Played really well this season.[/p][/quote]If you think he has played really well this season then you clearly don't go to games.. He has cost us so many games this season with his poor kicking, decision making and inability to command his area.. Yes he makes saves, but all goalkeepers make saves, that is the bear minimum!![/p][/quote]Sometimes wonder what a player has to do to be considered worth his place and good value to the team. This in League 2 football and at this level Mac is as good as you are likely to get. Not perfect agreed but certainly does not cost us points defensive blunders in front of him have cost us more points than his mistakes. CTID[/p][/quote]He's far too quiet. He doesn't command his box and many of the "defensive errors" you speak of are as a result of the defenders not being confident about whether he is coming for the ball or not. I have seen numerous better than him at this level this year, and even last! He's a top bloke and a nice lad, but I think we need a better number one than him. Someone who is willing to shout at the defence and take control of the penalty box.[/p][/quote]We need competition for johnny mac, in fact any keeper we sign shud be under pressure to retain the jersey. once City budget for two competitive keepers it will bring out the best in him.[/p][/quote]That depends on how Duke McLaughing (as my young daughter still calls him) responds to pressure for the jersey. Some people thrive in those circumstances but others go 'to pot'. I don't understand the idea of bringing the best out in someone through competition. It is not as though he isn't going to bother diving to make a save because he is unchallenged. However, if it means that he works harder on the training ground then you may have a point. Michael Clayton
  • Score: 1

7:18pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Bradford1903 says...

Ultra consistent, I can only recall seeing him have one bad game in the time he's been here. Best right back we have had since Brian Mitchell.
Ultra consistent, I can only recall seeing him have one bad game in the time he's been here. Best right back we have had since Brian Mitchell. Bradford1903
  • Score: 1

8:04pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Aussie Bantam says...

Farsley Bantam wrote:
realcitygent wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
realcitygent wrote: GREAT NEWS ,FINGERS CROSSED GET HIM SIGNED UP ON 3 YEAR DEAL, WITHOUT DOUBT HE MOST BE IN THE TOP 3 RB IN DIV ,FOR SO A SMALL GUY HE CAN CERTAINLY PUT A TACKLE IN ,LETS HOPE PARKY DOESNT MEDDLE WITH THE TEAM FOR SAT ,AS MUCH AS I LIKE JONES THE BLOKE DOES NEED A REST CARRY ON WITH DOLAN SEE WHAT HE CAN DO ,WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT HIM NOW IF WE ARE THINKING ABOUT SIGNING HIM FULL TIME NEXT SEASON ,I WOULD ALSO REST DOYLE TRY ATKINSON AS DOYLE IS OUT CONTRACT END SEASON ,CANT SEE HIM BEING OFFERED ANOTHER
Try using some punctuation and some lower case letters. Do that and your posts won't read as though they are the ramblings of a mad drunk.
always get a **** on here ,farsley bantam you are the one ,does it really matter about the spelling or punctuation marks, have you nothing better to comment on ,you sad person , i bet your one of these people who dont go to games but listen to pulse , try going to one of the games then add something constructive
Read the first comment on the thread. Pretty constructive. And yes I go to most games thanks.

Yes it does make a difference if you use correct grammar and punctuation. It makes all the difference, otherwise everything comes accross as a mindless rant regardless of the content. And whilst we're at it you've used commas when you should have used full stops and sentences start with capital letters. You're welcome.
leave him alone , you my think YOU are be more literate, that does not make it so. Stick with capitols if you want to mate , it only means that you are shouting, GO CITY.
[quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realcitygent[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realcitygent[/bold] wrote: GREAT NEWS ,FINGERS CROSSED GET HIM SIGNED UP ON 3 YEAR DEAL, WITHOUT DOUBT HE MOST BE IN THE TOP 3 RB IN DIV ,FOR SO A SMALL GUY HE CAN CERTAINLY PUT A TACKLE IN ,LETS HOPE PARKY DOESNT MEDDLE WITH THE TEAM FOR SAT ,AS MUCH AS I LIKE JONES THE BLOKE DOES NEED A REST CARRY ON WITH DOLAN SEE WHAT HE CAN DO ,WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT HIM NOW IF WE ARE THINKING ABOUT SIGNING HIM FULL TIME NEXT SEASON ,I WOULD ALSO REST DOYLE TRY ATKINSON AS DOYLE IS OUT CONTRACT END SEASON ,CANT SEE HIM BEING OFFERED ANOTHER[/p][/quote]Try using some punctuation and some lower case letters. Do that and your posts won't read as though they are the ramblings of a mad drunk.[/p][/quote]always get a **** on here ,farsley bantam you are the one ,does it really matter about the spelling or punctuation marks, have you nothing better to comment on ,you sad person , i bet your one of these people who dont go to games but listen to pulse , try going to one of the games then add something constructive[/p][/quote]Read the first comment on the thread. Pretty constructive. And yes I go to most games thanks. Yes it does make a difference if you use correct grammar and punctuation. It makes all the difference, otherwise everything comes accross as a mindless rant regardless of the content. And whilst we're at it you've used commas when you should have used full stops and sentences start with capital letters. You're welcome.[/p][/quote]leave him alone , you my think YOU are be more literate, that does not make it so. Stick with capitols if you want to mate , it only means that you are shouting, GO CITY. Aussie Bantam
  • Score: -2

10:42pm Thu 13 Mar 14

i miss stallard & murray says...

Michael Clayton wrote:
i miss stallard & murray wrote:
Old Dave wrote:
yorkiebantam wrote:
Plastic Bantam wrote:
Peter300 wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
Old Dave wrote: Back on thread.... lets hope Darby is signed up quickly. He's the type of solid player that we need long term. Every good team is built from the back. Darby is a class act seemingly off the pitch as well as on. One of maybe half a dozen who I would keep long term.
Agreed. He could be here for years to come a la Wayne Jacobs. Who else would you keep long term?
Johnny Mac for a start. Played really well this season.
If you think he has played really well this season then you clearly don't go to games.. He has cost us so many games this season with his poor kicking, decision making and inability to command his area.. Yes he makes saves, but all goalkeepers make saves, that is the bear minimum!!
Sometimes wonder what a player has to do to be considered worth his place and good value to the team. This in League 2 football and at this level Mac is as good as you are likely to get. Not perfect agreed but certainly does not cost us points defensive blunders in front of him have cost us more points than his mistakes. CTID
He's far too quiet. He doesn't command his box and many of the "defensive errors" you speak of are as a result of the defenders not being confident about whether he is coming for the ball or not. I have seen numerous better than him at this level this year, and even last! He's a top bloke and a nice lad, but I think we need a better number one than him. Someone who is willing to shout at the defence and take control of the penalty box.
We need competition for johnny mac, in fact any keeper we sign shud be under pressure to retain the jersey. once City budget for two competitive keepers it will bring out the best in him.
That depends on how Duke McLaughing (as my young daughter still calls him) responds to pressure for the jersey. Some people thrive in those circumstances but others go 'to pot'.

I don't understand the idea of bringing the best out in someone through competition. It is not as though he isn't going to bother diving to make a save because he is unchallenged. However, if it means that he works harder on the training ground then you may have a point.
You need competition in every position to get the best out of players. With no pressure and being guaranteed to start every game you are fit will lead to complacency. I am not saying he will not make a dive but competition will enhance focus and concentration and encourage him to command the box if he is uncomfy with that rather than allowing the role to be taken for granted, whuch can happen.
[quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]i miss stallard & murray[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yorkiebantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Plastic Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peter300[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Dave[/bold] wrote: Back on thread.... lets hope Darby is signed up quickly. He's the type of solid player that we need long term. Every good team is built from the back. Darby is a class act seemingly off the pitch as well as on. One of maybe half a dozen who I would keep long term.[/p][/quote]Agreed. He could be here for years to come a la Wayne Jacobs. Who else would you keep long term?[/p][/quote]Johnny Mac for a start. Played really well this season.[/p][/quote]If you think he has played really well this season then you clearly don't go to games.. He has cost us so many games this season with his poor kicking, decision making and inability to command his area.. Yes he makes saves, but all goalkeepers make saves, that is the bear minimum!![/p][/quote]Sometimes wonder what a player has to do to be considered worth his place and good value to the team. This in League 2 football and at this level Mac is as good as you are likely to get. Not perfect agreed but certainly does not cost us points defensive blunders in front of him have cost us more points than his mistakes. CTID[/p][/quote]He's far too quiet. He doesn't command his box and many of the "defensive errors" you speak of are as a result of the defenders not being confident about whether he is coming for the ball or not. I have seen numerous better than him at this level this year, and even last! He's a top bloke and a nice lad, but I think we need a better number one than him. Someone who is willing to shout at the defence and take control of the penalty box.[/p][/quote]We need competition for johnny mac, in fact any keeper we sign shud be under pressure to retain the jersey. once City budget for two competitive keepers it will bring out the best in him.[/p][/quote]That depends on how Duke McLaughing (as my young daughter still calls him) responds to pressure for the jersey. Some people thrive in those circumstances but others go 'to pot'. I don't understand the idea of bringing the best out in someone through competition. It is not as though he isn't going to bother diving to make a save because he is unchallenged. However, if it means that he works harder on the training ground then you may have a point.[/p][/quote]You need competition in every position to get the best out of players. With no pressure and being guaranteed to start every game you are fit will lead to complacency. I am not saying he will not make a dive but competition will enhance focus and concentration and encourage him to command the box if he is uncomfy with that rather than allowing the role to be taken for granted, whuch can happen. i miss stallard & murray
  • Score: 0

8:16am Fri 14 Mar 14

Michael Clayton says...

i miss stallard & murray wrote:
Michael Clayton wrote:
i miss stallard & murray wrote:
Old Dave wrote:
yorkiebantam wrote:
Plastic Bantam wrote:
Peter300 wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
Old Dave wrote: Back on thread.... lets hope Darby is signed up quickly. He's the type of solid player that we need long term. Every good team is built from the back. Darby is a class act seemingly off the pitch as well as on. One of maybe half a dozen who I would keep long term.
Agreed. He could be here for years to come a la Wayne Jacobs. Who else would you keep long term?
Johnny Mac for a start. Played really well this season.
If you think he has played really well this season then you clearly don't go to games.. He has cost us so many games this season with his poor kicking, decision making and inability to command his area.. Yes he makes saves, but all goalkeepers make saves, that is the bear minimum!!
Sometimes wonder what a player has to do to be considered worth his place and good value to the team. This in League 2 football and at this level Mac is as good as you are likely to get. Not perfect agreed but certainly does not cost us points defensive blunders in front of him have cost us more points than his mistakes. CTID
He's far too quiet. He doesn't command his box and many of the "defensive errors" you speak of are as a result of the defenders not being confident about whether he is coming for the ball or not. I have seen numerous better than him at this level this year, and even last! He's a top bloke and a nice lad, but I think we need a better number one than him. Someone who is willing to shout at the defence and take control of the penalty box.
We need competition for johnny mac, in fact any keeper we sign shud be under pressure to retain the jersey. once City budget for two competitive keepers it will bring out the best in him.
That depends on how Duke McLaughing (as my young daughter still calls him) responds to pressure for the jersey. Some people thrive in those circumstances but others go 'to pot'. I don't understand the idea of bringing the best out in someone through competition. It is not as though he isn't going to bother diving to make a save because he is unchallenged. However, if it means that he works harder on the training ground then you may have a point.
You need competition in every position to get the best out of players. With no pressure and being guaranteed to start every game you are fit will lead to complacency. I am not saying he will not make a dive but competition will enhance focus and concentration and encourage him to command the box if he is uncomfy with that rather than allowing the role to be taken for granted, whuch can happen.
It depends on what motivates the individual. The only benefit I can see is for the player to push harder on the training ground which may have advantages in terms of fitness.

An inability to 'command' is a flaw that has little to do with competition.
For example, in the case of our keeper, he is not going to think to himself 'I am not going to command my box today because Matt Duke has gone to Northampton' (or something like that!).

A player is not necessarily going to be more focused or concentrate harder just because there is no direct competition for his place. For example, thinking he will have a crafty cig whilst the ball is down-field and so on. Suggesting otherwise degrees a lack of professionalism.

Once a player crosses the white line, he is primarily concentrating positioning, spatial awareness and the ball. That extends to ever level of football - including the garbage standard that I played in.
[quote][p][bold]i miss stallard & murray[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]i miss stallard & murray[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yorkiebantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Plastic Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peter300[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Dave[/bold] wrote: Back on thread.... lets hope Darby is signed up quickly. He's the type of solid player that we need long term. Every good team is built from the back. Darby is a class act seemingly off the pitch as well as on. One of maybe half a dozen who I would keep long term.[/p][/quote]Agreed. He could be here for years to come a la Wayne Jacobs. Who else would you keep long term?[/p][/quote]Johnny Mac for a start. Played really well this season.[/p][/quote]If you think he has played really well this season then you clearly don't go to games.. He has cost us so many games this season with his poor kicking, decision making and inability to command his area.. Yes he makes saves, but all goalkeepers make saves, that is the bear minimum!![/p][/quote]Sometimes wonder what a player has to do to be considered worth his place and good value to the team. This in League 2 football and at this level Mac is as good as you are likely to get. Not perfect agreed but certainly does not cost us points defensive blunders in front of him have cost us more points than his mistakes. CTID[/p][/quote]He's far too quiet. He doesn't command his box and many of the "defensive errors" you speak of are as a result of the defenders not being confident about whether he is coming for the ball or not. I have seen numerous better than him at this level this year, and even last! He's a top bloke and a nice lad, but I think we need a better number one than him. Someone who is willing to shout at the defence and take control of the penalty box.[/p][/quote]We need competition for johnny mac, in fact any keeper we sign shud be under pressure to retain the jersey. once City budget for two competitive keepers it will bring out the best in him.[/p][/quote]That depends on how Duke McLaughing (as my young daughter still calls him) responds to pressure for the jersey. Some people thrive in those circumstances but others go 'to pot'. I don't understand the idea of bringing the best out in someone through competition. It is not as though he isn't going to bother diving to make a save because he is unchallenged. However, if it means that he works harder on the training ground then you may have a point.[/p][/quote]You need competition in every position to get the best out of players. With no pressure and being guaranteed to start every game you are fit will lead to complacency. I am not saying he will not make a dive but competition will enhance focus and concentration and encourage him to command the box if he is uncomfy with that rather than allowing the role to be taken for granted, whuch can happen.[/p][/quote]It depends on what motivates the individual. The only benefit I can see is for the player to push harder on the training ground which may have advantages in terms of fitness. An inability to 'command' is a flaw that has little to do with competition. For example, in the case of our keeper, he is not going to think to himself 'I am not going to command my box today because Matt Duke has gone to Northampton' (or something like that!). A player is not necessarily going to be more focused or concentrate harder just because there is no direct competition for his place. For example, thinking he will have a crafty cig whilst the ball is down-field and so on. Suggesting otherwise degrees a lack of professionalism. Once a player crosses the white line, he is primarily concentrating positioning, spatial awareness and the ball. That extends to ever level of football - including the garbage standard that I played in. Michael Clayton
  • Score: -4

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