We won’t get mad, we’ll get even – Bradford Bulls coach Cummins targets Hull victory to wipe out six-point penalty

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Luke Gale, centre, celebrates after scoring the first of the Bulls' four tries Luke Gale, centre, celebrates after scoring the first of the Bulls' four tries

Francis Cummins heaped praise on his players yesterday and spoke of his hope for positive news on the club’s ownership front after the Bulls beat London Broncos 25-12.

In their first match after being docked six points and seeing Nick Scruton become the third player to leave since the club entered administration, the Bulls ran out worthy winners.

Cummins is now hoping a buyer for the club can be found and that his team wipe out their points penalty by beating Hull FC on Friday.

The head coach said: “I’ve said it before, these lads are champions, after all the stuff they’ve had to put up with.

“Just when you think you’re getting somewhere then something else happens. But we found a way and I said to them at the end ‘we got the win and we could be less than a week away from getting back to even points’.

“We’re not sat in the same office as the administrator but it does sound like there is some potential.

“But I’m not privy to those conversations, it’s behind closed doors. Maybe Dr Koukash has got a couple of brothers who might want to buy the club.”

Cummins said he could not blame Scruton for leaving and admits the Bulls remain vulnerable to more players being sold by the administrator.

He said: “Nick was a mess when he came to tell me what he was going to do.

“We were in that situation again; two days before a game and one of our players isn’t going to be there.

“Other clubs can do whatever they want because we’re in this situation and it’s a worry.

“The concern is that if I wanted to buy this club and there are no assets, then what’s left to buy?

“But while we’ve got those players in and we can add a few more then I believe in them.

“It’s dog eat dog and we’ve got relegation this year but I’m not going to burn my emotions up on stuff like that and carry any hatred.

“My concern is the lads in the dressing room and the young lads below them.”

Scruton said after signing a one-year deal at Wakefield: “A lot of the Bradford fans won’t believe it but yesterday was one of the worst days of my life, it genuinely was.

“I’ve had six years and they’ve not all been good years, we’ve had ups and downs but I have loved every minute of my time at Bradford Bulls.

“It was a sad day yesterday for me to decide that the best decision for me and my family was to leave and come to Wakefield.”

Luke George looks certain to miss Friday’s trip to Hull after being knocked out during the first and replaced by Elliot Kear.

The Bulls’ Academy side beat London 38-30 at home on Saturday.

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7:31am Mon 3 Mar 14

Solomon Grundy says...

It's pretty poor of Scruton to jump ship after all the years he's been here and been well paid at times too. I honestly think he has more chance of being relegated at wakefield.

Let's hope it gets sorted this week. Well done to Francis and all the players for yesterday, an excellent effort and a really enjoyable game of rugby league.
It's pretty poor of Scruton to jump ship after all the years he's been here and been well paid at times too. I honestly think he has more chance of being relegated at wakefield. Let's hope it gets sorted this week. Well done to Francis and all the players for yesterday, an excellent effort and a really enjoyable game of rugby league. Solomon Grundy
  • Score: 11

7:51am Mon 3 Mar 14

gavskidoodle says...

A really enjoyable game woz it????? Sorry Mr Grundy,but either u or me wozn't @ the bulls v London game cos,I thought it woz more drab than the weather?? Huge improvement will b needed to beat hull on Fri.!!
A really enjoyable game woz it????? Sorry Mr Grundy,but either u or me wozn't @ the bulls v London game cos,I thought it woz more drab than the weather?? Huge improvement will b needed to beat hull on Fri.!! gavskidoodle
  • Score: 10

8:02am Mon 3 Mar 14

raisemeup says...

gavskidoodle wrote:
A really enjoyable game woz it????? Sorry Mr Grundy,but either u or me wozn't @ the bulls v London game cos,I thought it woz more drab than the weather?? Huge improvement will b needed to beat hull on Fri.!!
Not the best of games, but what did you expect. Players worried about their livelihoods, not knowing who will be playing the next game, supporters unsettled atmosphere overshadowed by what's going on behind the scenes. 'They did excellent to put in a performance like that.. The loss of Scruton, the day before was bound to have disrupted their game plan. Need I say more?? COYB,
[quote][p][bold]gavskidoodle[/bold] wrote: A really enjoyable game woz it????? Sorry Mr Grundy,but either u or me wozn't @ the bulls v London game cos,I thought it woz more drab than the weather?? Huge improvement will b needed to beat hull on Fri.!![/p][/quote]Not the best of games, but what did you expect. Players worried about their livelihoods, not knowing who will be playing the next game, supporters unsettled atmosphere overshadowed by what's going on behind the scenes. 'They did excellent to put in a performance like that.. The loss of Scruton, the day before was bound to have disrupted their game plan. Need I say more?? COYB, raisemeup
  • Score: 20

8:16am Mon 3 Mar 14

axelf1963 says...

gavskidoodle wrote:
A really enjoyable game woz it????? Sorry Mr Grundy,but either u or me wozn't @ the bulls v London game cos,I thought it woz more drab than the weather?? Huge improvement will b needed to beat hull on Fri.!!
Someone who speaks sense for once, Dire, Drab, Pathetic are a few words mentioned to me and don't forget London have been getting HAMMERED by other teams so a hollow victory.
Hull by 32
[quote][p][bold]gavskidoodle[/bold] wrote: A really enjoyable game woz it????? Sorry Mr Grundy,but either u or me wozn't @ the bulls v London game cos,I thought it woz more drab than the weather?? Huge improvement will b needed to beat hull on Fri.!![/p][/quote]Someone who speaks sense for once, Dire, Drab, Pathetic are a few words mentioned to me and don't forget London have been getting HAMMERED by other teams so a hollow victory. Hull by 32 axelf1963
  • Score: -19

8:31am Mon 3 Mar 14

Farsley Bantam says...

axelf1963 wrote:
gavskidoodle wrote: A really enjoyable game woz it????? Sorry Mr Grundy,but either u or me wozn't @ the bulls v London game cos,I thought it woz more drab than the weather?? Huge improvement will b needed to beat hull on Fri.!!
Someone who speaks sense for once, Dire, Drab, Pathetic are a few words mentioned to me and don't forget London have been getting HAMMERED by other teams so a hollow victory. Hull by 32
Other teams haven't had 1/10th of the issues that Bulls have had to deal with. Have some perspective man!
[quote][p][bold]axelf1963[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gavskidoodle[/bold] wrote: A really enjoyable game woz it????? Sorry Mr Grundy,but either u or me wozn't @ the bulls v London game cos,I thought it woz more drab than the weather?? Huge improvement will b needed to beat hull on Fri.!![/p][/quote]Someone who speaks sense for once, Dire, Drab, Pathetic are a few words mentioned to me and don't forget London have been getting HAMMERED by other teams so a hollow victory. Hull by 32[/p][/quote]Other teams haven't had 1/10th of the issues that Bulls have had to deal with. Have some perspective man! Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 19

8:35am Mon 3 Mar 14

Savethebulls says...

Regardless of the quality of the play this was an outstanding achievement by the coach and the players! Massive effort. All the doom and gloom merchants need to think how they would perform at work if they had had to endure what this group has had to endure over the past 2 years! The players showed a quality no amount of money can buy - grit and passion !
Regardless of the quality of the play this was an outstanding achievement by the coach and the players! Massive effort. All the doom and gloom merchants need to think how they would perform at work if they had had to endure what this group has had to endure over the past 2 years! The players showed a quality no amount of money can buy - grit and passion ! Savethebulls
  • Score: 27

8:39am Mon 3 Mar 14

-HCK3R- says...

Doesn't matter how good or poor the game was, all that matters is the 2 points you get for winning against none for losing.......would be quite happy watching games like that for the rest of the season as long as we win .....
Doesn't matter how good or poor the game was, all that matters is the 2 points you get for winning against none for losing.......would be quite happy watching games like that for the rest of the season as long as we win ..... -HCK3R-
  • Score: 34

8:43am Mon 3 Mar 14

Van Bellen's Baby says...

Solomon Grundy wrote:
It's pretty poor of Scruton to jump ship after all the years he's been here and been well paid at times too. I honestly think he has more chance of being relegated at wakefield.

Let's hope it gets sorted this week. Well done to Francis and all the players for yesterday, an excellent effort and a really enjoyable game of rugby league.
I agree Solomon; if not enjoyable can the Monday morning grouches at least agree that it was a 'surprisingly absorbing contest.' as suggested by Andy Wilson of the Guardian?
[quote][p][bold]Solomon Grundy[/bold] wrote: It's pretty poor of Scruton to jump ship after all the years he's been here and been well paid at times too. I honestly think he has more chance of being relegated at wakefield. Let's hope it gets sorted this week. Well done to Francis and all the players for yesterday, an excellent effort and a really enjoyable game of rugby league.[/p][/quote]I agree Solomon; if not enjoyable can the Monday morning grouches at least agree that it was a 'surprisingly absorbing contest.' as suggested by Andy Wilson of the Guardian? Van Bellen's Baby
  • Score: 9

8:47am Mon 3 Mar 14

axelf1963 says...

Quote:
But I’m not privy to those conversations, it’s behind closed doors. Maybe Dr Koukash has got a couple of brothers who might want to buy the club.”

He does and has shown interest according to a certain Mr Noble :-p
Quote: But I’m not privy to those conversations, it’s behind closed doors. Maybe Dr Koukash has got a couple of brothers who might want to buy the club.” He does and has shown interest according to a certain Mr Noble :-p axelf1963
  • Score: -3

8:49am Mon 3 Mar 14

Bowlingboy says...

2 points is 2 points and winners are grinners!

A new worthwhile owner this week and hopefully we can begin to rebuild.
2 points is 2 points and winners are grinners! A new worthwhile owner this week and hopefully we can begin to rebuild. Bowlingboy
  • Score: 13

9:02am Mon 3 Mar 14

spanglishbull.uk says...

Axelf,
I assume you was there then by your comments.
Axelf, I assume you was there then by your comments. spanglishbull.uk
  • Score: 6

9:07am Mon 3 Mar 14

nosher says...

Solomon Grundy wrote:
It's pretty poor of Scruton to jump ship after all the years he's been here and been well paid at times too. I honestly think he has more chance of being relegated at wakefield.

Let's hope it gets sorted this week. Well done to Francis and all the players for yesterday, an excellent effort and a really enjoyable game of rugby league.
Scrotum needs to remember how he got paid for doing nothing for most of his time at the bulls. Granted some of that was down to illness. For large part of his time at the bulls he did not tear up many trees. He only had one good season IMO. I bet he took a huge sigh of relief as he packed his bags and did one. Bye bye
[quote][p][bold]Solomon Grundy[/bold] wrote: It's pretty poor of Scruton to jump ship after all the years he's been here and been well paid at times too. I honestly think he has more chance of being relegated at wakefield. Let's hope it gets sorted this week. Well done to Francis and all the players for yesterday, an excellent effort and a really enjoyable game of rugby league.[/p][/quote]Scrotum needs to remember how he got paid for doing nothing for most of his time at the bulls. Granted some of that was down to illness. For large part of his time at the bulls he did not tear up many trees. He only had one good season IMO. I bet he took a huge sigh of relief as he packed his bags and did one. Bye bye nosher
  • Score: 2

9:20am Mon 3 Mar 14

nosher says...

spanglishbull.uk wrote:
Axelf,
I assume you was there then by your comments.
He was at the pie shop
[quote][p][bold]spanglishbull.uk[/bold] wrote: Axelf, I assume you was there then by your comments.[/p][/quote]He was at the pie shop nosher
  • Score: 4

9:27am Mon 3 Mar 14

Inki60 says...

We'll done to you all good game played two points to go good luck you deserve to be up there again and you will keep on going forward fans with you all the wat good and bad 👏
We'll done to you all good game played two points to go good luck you deserve to be up there again and you will keep on going forward fans with you all the wat good and bad 👏 Inki60
  • Score: 9

9:34am Mon 3 Mar 14

fedupwiththeBS says...

This season a win is a win and even if we had only scraped it by a point I for one would not care.

It is a credit to the lads that we have even taken to the field at all with the off field antics they have had to endure.

See the knob head element of our fans are appearing on here again slagging off a player that has put his family first. No wonder we are considered the most vile club in the league.
This season a win is a win and even if we had only scraped it by a point I for one would not care. It is a credit to the lads that we have even taken to the field at all with the off field antics they have had to endure. See the knob head element of our fans are appearing on here again slagging off a player that has put his family first. No wonder we are considered the most vile club in the league. fedupwiththeBS
  • Score: 10

9:55am Mon 3 Mar 14

Ralphie says...

axelf1963 wrote:
Quote: But I’m not privy to those conversations, it’s behind closed doors. Maybe Dr Koukash has got a couple of brothers who might want to buy the club.” He does and has shown interest according to a certain Mr Noble :-p
Do'nt knock this post! In todays League Express Martyn Sadler wrote that at the time of going to press that there were strong rumours that one of Koukashs brothers was interested in making a bid, but that he was unable to confirm it at the time of going to press.
[quote][p][bold]axelf1963[/bold] wrote: Quote: But I’m not privy to those conversations, it’s behind closed doors. Maybe Dr Koukash has got a couple of brothers who might want to buy the club.” He does and has shown interest according to a certain Mr Noble :-p[/p][/quote]Do'nt knock this post! In todays League Express Martyn Sadler wrote that at the time of going to press that there were strong rumours that one of Koukashs brothers was interested in making a bid, but that he was unable to confirm it at the time of going to press. Ralphie
  • Score: 6

10:34am Mon 3 Mar 14

Bone_idle18 says...

Not blaming Scutton for wanting more stability, but it'll backfire.

My theory is the RFL are allowing Wakey to grab out players, knowing they will breach salary cap, and then they'll hit them with a deduction later in season which will be just enough to keep London up and put Wakey down.
Not blaming Scutton for wanting more stability, but it'll backfire. My theory is the RFL are allowing Wakey to grab out players, knowing they will breach salary cap, and then they'll hit them with a deduction later in season which will be just enough to keep London up and put Wakey down. Bone_idle18
  • Score: 6

10:42am Mon 3 Mar 14

axelf1963 says...

spanglishbull.uk wrote:
Axelf,
I assume you was there then by your comments.
Yes
[quote][p][bold]spanglishbull.uk[/bold] wrote: Axelf, I assume you was there then by your comments.[/p][/quote]Yes axelf1963
  • Score: -3

10:56am Mon 3 Mar 14

axelf1963 says...

Ralphie wrote:
axelf1963 wrote:
Quote: But I’m not privy to those conversations, it’s behind closed doors. Maybe Dr Koukash has got a couple of brothers who might want to buy the club.” He does and has shown interest according to a certain Mr Noble :-p
Do'nt knock this post! In todays League Express Martyn Sadler wrote that at the time of going to press that there were strong rumours that one of Koukashs brothers was interested in making a bid, but that he was unable to confirm it at the time of going to press.
I knew this 3 weeks ago but would have been shot down as usual.
[quote][p][bold]Ralphie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]axelf1963[/bold] wrote: Quote: But I’m not privy to those conversations, it’s behind closed doors. Maybe Dr Koukash has got a couple of brothers who might want to buy the club.” He does and has shown interest according to a certain Mr Noble :-p[/p][/quote]Do'nt knock this post! In todays League Express Martyn Sadler wrote that at the time of going to press that there were strong rumours that one of Koukashs brothers was interested in making a bid, but that he was unable to confirm it at the time of going to press.[/p][/quote]I knew this 3 weeks ago but would have been shot down as usual. axelf1963
  • Score: -7

11:18am Mon 3 Mar 14

123neesee says...

I knew it 3 weeks ago as well must have been at the same place.
I knew it 3 weeks ago as well must have been at the same place. 123neesee
  • Score: -4

11:40am Mon 3 Mar 14

fedupwiththeBS says...

123neesee wrote:
I knew it 3 weeks ago as well must have been at the same place.
if the Koukash brother rumour had any substance to it and was being bounded about three weeks ago as claimed then he would have been involved with the RFL prior to the MM walking away saga.

Until we see a statement form this unnamed brother or the RFL then this has to be treated as purely a rumour and following the Dr's anti RFL comments I doubt it is any more than that.
[quote][p][bold]123neesee[/bold] wrote: I knew it 3 weeks ago as well must have been at the same place.[/p][/quote]if the Koukash brother rumour had any substance to it and was being bounded about three weeks ago as claimed then he would have been involved with the RFL prior to the MM walking away saga. Until we see a statement form this unnamed brother or the RFL then this has to be treated as purely a rumour and following the Dr's anti RFL comments I doubt it is any more than that. fedupwiththeBS
  • Score: 9

11:58am Mon 3 Mar 14

MeccaBingo1 says...

Good result yesterday

Scruton no great loss, will be injured next week (paid too much)

This week will bring good news for a change!

New owners + investment and sponsorship

CC ;-)
Good result yesterday Scruton no great loss, will be injured next week (paid too much) This week will bring good news for a change! New owners + investment and sponsorship CC ;-) MeccaBingo1
  • Score: 9

12:49pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Bring Cordle back......... says...

Well last year London upset us on a couple of occasions so grinding out a win in our current position seems pretty positive to me! Hopefully we can hold the rest of the squad together whilst a buyer is found then add a couple of good value loanees to the team and fight our way out of the bottom two. If we can get to the end of the year avoiding relegation with none or manageable debts based on full sky money next year that will do for me. COYB!!!
Well last year London upset us on a couple of occasions so grinding out a win in our current position seems pretty positive to me! Hopefully we can hold the rest of the squad together whilst a buyer is found then add a couple of good value loanees to the team and fight our way out of the bottom two. If we can get to the end of the year avoiding relegation with none or manageable debts based on full sky money next year that will do for me. COYB!!! Bring Cordle back.........
  • Score: 11

1:06pm Mon 3 Mar 14

NG1972 says...

We must try and keep Mullally he is a very big unit who is not frightened to throw his weight about. We must appreciate that we still have quality on the injury list such has Blythe, Ferguson & Gaskell once all fully fit & some more additions we will be fine. I dont quite understand Mr Moores motives when he decided to walk out on us ONCE again.
Mr Scruton will regret leaving us when Wakey get relegated.
We must try and keep Mullally he is a very big unit who is not frightened to throw his weight about. We must appreciate that we still have quality on the injury list such has Blythe, Ferguson & Gaskell once all fully fit & some more additions we will be fine. I dont quite understand Mr Moores motives when he decided to walk out on us ONCE again. Mr Scruton will regret leaving us when Wakey get relegated. NG1972
  • Score: 11

1:17pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Alhaurinrhino says...

Van Bellen's Baby wrote:
Solomon Grundy wrote:
It's pretty poor of Scruton to jump ship after all the years he's been here and been well paid at times too. I honestly think he has more chance of being relegated at wakefield.

Let's hope it gets sorted this week. Well done to Francis and all the players for yesterday, an excellent effort and a really enjoyable game of rugby league.
I agree Solomon; if not enjoyable can the Monday morning grouches at least agree that it was a 'surprisingly absorbing contest.' as suggested by Andy Wilson of the Guardian?
You read the Guardian? That explains a lot.
[quote][p][bold]Van Bellen's Baby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Solomon Grundy[/bold] wrote: It's pretty poor of Scruton to jump ship after all the years he's been here and been well paid at times too. I honestly think he has more chance of being relegated at wakefield. Let's hope it gets sorted this week. Well done to Francis and all the players for yesterday, an excellent effort and a really enjoyable game of rugby league.[/p][/quote]I agree Solomon; if not enjoyable can the Monday morning grouches at least agree that it was a 'surprisingly absorbing contest.' as suggested by Andy Wilson of the Guardian?[/p][/quote]You read the Guardian? That explains a lot. Alhaurinrhino
  • Score: -10

1:39pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Will, Huddersfield says...

When Northern folded in the 1960's along came a man of passion and unimpeachable integrity to help resurrect the club. What Franny and the team
deserve is someone with Trevor Foster's values and qualities to come in for the right motives not some fly-by-nighters seeking to exploit the club and its depleted resources.
When Northern folded in the 1960's along came a man of passion and unimpeachable integrity to help resurrect the club. What Franny and the team deserve is someone with Trevor Foster's values and qualities to come in for the right motives not some fly-by-nighters seeking to exploit the club and its depleted resources. Will, Huddersfield
  • Score: 7

1:44pm Mon 3 Mar 14

BierleyBoy says...

A gritty win in difficult circumstances. Needed the Broncos to lose two players during the game & were it not for the desperate ankle tap by Kearney, it would have been 18-18 late in second half.

London will be in 1 of the 2 drop spots & on that showing, Bulls are in front of most other clubs to take the other.

Mark Moore is better off not being involved at the club if he has the view that the club is already down.

Why haven't the other 3, Watt Calvert & Paul simply carried on as BB2014 without him?

At the moment the RFL is funding the club, how much longer can this situation continue before Wilson liquidates OK Bulls?

When is Khan going to hold his press conference?
A gritty win in difficult circumstances. Needed the Broncos to lose two players during the game & were it not for the desperate ankle tap by Kearney, it would have been 18-18 late in second half. London will be in 1 of the 2 drop spots & on that showing, Bulls are in front of most other clubs to take the other. Mark Moore is better off not being involved at the club if he has the view that the club is already down. Why haven't the other 3, Watt Calvert & Paul simply carried on as BB2014 without him? At the moment the RFL is funding the club, how much longer can this situation continue before Wilson liquidates OK Bulls? When is Khan going to hold his press conference? BierleyBoy
  • Score: 5

1:46pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Claytonbull says...

So the truth is starting to emerge is it?? Seams that Moore etc agreed to pay all the bulls creditors meaning we wouldn't have gone into administration in the first place , they just wouldn't pay OK out when he had ran up
Most of the debt sounds fair to me. But it seams this was not sufficient for the RFL and they were hell bent on giving us a points reduction wonder why that is ??? And now seams like rimmer is running scared because Moore etc have told him if he doesn't retract the comments he made last making them look like crooks he's guna take legal action. they never asked to use the season ticket money to purchase the club they asked for the deducted sky money back when all the creditors had been payed so at least we would be on a level playing field with the rest of super league .
So the truth is starting to emerge is it?? Seams that Moore etc agreed to pay all the bulls creditors meaning we wouldn't have gone into administration in the first place , they just wouldn't pay OK out when he had ran up Most of the debt sounds fair to me. But it seams this was not sufficient for the RFL and they were hell bent on giving us a points reduction wonder why that is ??? And now seams like rimmer is running scared because Moore etc have told him if he doesn't retract the comments he made last making them look like crooks he's guna take legal action. they never asked to use the season ticket money to purchase the club they asked for the deducted sky money back when all the creditors had been payed so at least we would be on a level playing field with the rest of super league . Claytonbull
  • Score: 13

1:59pm Mon 3 Mar 14

portugalbull says...

Will, Huddersfield wrote:
When Northern folded in the 1960's along came a man of passion and unimpeachable integrity to help resurrect the club. What Franny and the team
deserve is someone with Trevor Foster's values and qualities to come in for the right motives not some fly-by-nighters seeking to exploit the club and its depleted resources.
Don't forget Joe Phillips the kiwi Northern fullback who became chairman and steered the board in the right direction.
Don't we have a similar situation with another Kiwi, just hope the same outcome.
CoyB,s
[quote][p][bold]Will, Huddersfield[/bold] wrote: When Northern folded in the 1960's along came a man of passion and unimpeachable integrity to help resurrect the club. What Franny and the team deserve is someone with Trevor Foster's values and qualities to come in for the right motives not some fly-by-nighters seeking to exploit the club and its depleted resources.[/p][/quote]Don't forget Joe Phillips the kiwi Northern fullback who became chairman and steered the board in the right direction. Don't we have a similar situation with another Kiwi, just hope the same outcome. CoyB,s portugalbull
  • Score: 6

2:00pm Mon 3 Mar 14

axelf1963 says...

NG1972 wrote:
We must try and keep Mullally he is a very big unit who is not frightened to throw his weight about. We must appreciate that we still have quality on the injury list such has Blythe, Ferguson & Gaskell once all fully fit & some more additions we will be fine. I dont quite understand Mr Moores motives when he decided to walk out on us ONCE again.
Mr Scruton will regret leaving us when Wakey get relegated.
Doubt it , He was always going back to Leeds next year hence his 1 year deal with Wakefield.
[quote][p][bold]NG1972[/bold] wrote: We must try and keep Mullally he is a very big unit who is not frightened to throw his weight about. We must appreciate that we still have quality on the injury list such has Blythe, Ferguson & Gaskell once all fully fit & some more additions we will be fine. I dont quite understand Mr Moores motives when he decided to walk out on us ONCE again. Mr Scruton will regret leaving us when Wakey get relegated.[/p][/quote]Doubt it , He was always going back to Leeds next year hence his 1 year deal with Wakefield. axelf1963
  • Score: -6

2:05pm Mon 3 Mar 14

portugalbull says...

BierleyBoy wrote:
A gritty win in difficult circumstances. Needed the Broncos to lose two players during the game & were it not for the desperate ankle tap by Kearney, it would have been 18-18 late in second half.

London will be in 1 of the 2 drop spots & on that showing, Bulls are in front of most other clubs to take the other.

Mark Moore is better off not being involved at the club if he has the view that the club is already down.

Why haven't the other 3, Watt Calvert & Paul simply carried on as BB2014 without him?

At the moment the RFL is funding the club, how much longer can this situation continue before Wilson liquidates OK Bulls?

When is Khan going to hold his press conference?
RFL loaning Sky monies which Bulls should get anyway, definitely will not be using RFL money.
[quote][p][bold]BierleyBoy[/bold] wrote: A gritty win in difficult circumstances. Needed the Broncos to lose two players during the game & were it not for the desperate ankle tap by Kearney, it would have been 18-18 late in second half. London will be in 1 of the 2 drop spots & on that showing, Bulls are in front of most other clubs to take the other. Mark Moore is better off not being involved at the club if he has the view that the club is already down. Why haven't the other 3, Watt Calvert & Paul simply carried on as BB2014 without him? At the moment the RFL is funding the club, how much longer can this situation continue before Wilson liquidates OK Bulls? When is Khan going to hold his press conference?[/p][/quote]RFL loaning Sky monies which Bulls should get anyway, definitely will not be using RFL money. portugalbull
  • Score: 1

2:05pm Mon 3 Mar 14

portugalbull says...

BierleyBoy wrote:
A gritty win in difficult circumstances. Needed the Broncos to lose two players during the game & were it not for the desperate ankle tap by Kearney, it would have been 18-18 late in second half.

London will be in 1 of the 2 drop spots & on that showing, Bulls are in front of most other clubs to take the other.

Mark Moore is better off not being involved at the club if he has the view that the club is already down.

Why haven't the other 3, Watt Calvert & Paul simply carried on as BB2014 without him?

At the moment the RFL is funding the club, how much longer can this situation continue before Wilson liquidates OK Bulls?

When is Khan going to hold his press conference?
RFL loaning Sky monies which Bulls should get anyway, definitely will not be using RFL money.
[quote][p][bold]BierleyBoy[/bold] wrote: A gritty win in difficult circumstances. Needed the Broncos to lose two players during the game & were it not for the desperate ankle tap by Kearney, it would have been 18-18 late in second half. London will be in 1 of the 2 drop spots & on that showing, Bulls are in front of most other clubs to take the other. Mark Moore is better off not being involved at the club if he has the view that the club is already down. Why haven't the other 3, Watt Calvert & Paul simply carried on as BB2014 without him? At the moment the RFL is funding the club, how much longer can this situation continue before Wilson liquidates OK Bulls? When is Khan going to hold his press conference?[/p][/quote]RFL loaning Sky monies which Bulls should get anyway, definitely will not be using RFL money. portugalbull
  • Score: 0

2:26pm Mon 3 Mar 14

spanglishbull.uk says...

Claytonbull,
Is this info.fact or just hearsay.
Claytonbull, Is this info.fact or just hearsay. spanglishbull.uk
  • Score: 1

2:53pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Sheffieldbull says...

spanglishbull.uk wrote:
Claytonbull,
Is this info.fact or just hearsay.
No, it's been widely reported in the two RL papers
Legal action threatened if Rimmer doesn't retract his pervious statement by Wednesday. Something rotten at Red Hall IMO.
[quote][p][bold]spanglishbull.uk[/bold] wrote: Claytonbull, Is this info.fact or just hearsay.[/p][/quote]No, it's been widely reported in the two RL papers Legal action threatened if Rimmer doesn't retract his pervious statement by Wednesday. Something rotten at Red Hall IMO. Sheffieldbull
  • Score: 6

3:16pm Mon 3 Mar 14

spanglishbull.uk says...

Sheffield,
Been saying it for years.Something rotten is an understatement.R.F.L is run by bunch of amateurs,seems like trouble is brewing.As I have said time after time the whole lot need clearing out and somebody with a modicum of common sense installed..
Sheffield, Been saying it for years.Something rotten is an understatement.R.F.L is run by bunch of amateurs,seems like trouble is brewing.As I have said time after time the whole lot need clearing out and somebody with a modicum of common sense installed.. spanglishbull.uk
  • Score: 9

3:46pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Claytonbull says...

spanglishbull.uk wrote:
Sheffield,
Been saying it for years.Something rotten is an understatement.R.F.L is run by bunch of amateurs,seems like trouble is brewing.As I have said time after time the whole lot need clearing out and somebody with a modicum of common sense installed..
Well we ll see how right I am when the truth comes out if it does cos it's not good reading for the RFL .
[quote][p][bold]spanglishbull.uk[/bold] wrote: Sheffield, Been saying it for years.Something rotten is an understatement.R.F.L is run by bunch of amateurs,seems like trouble is brewing.As I have said time after time the whole lot need clearing out and somebody with a modicum of common sense installed..[/p][/quote]Well we ll see how right I am when the truth comes out if it does cos it's not good reading for the RFL . Claytonbull
  • Score: 8

3:49pm Mon 3 Mar 14

spanglishbull.uk says...

Clayton and Sheffield,
Fact, inside info.Koukash No2 for Bulls.
Clayton and Sheffield, Fact, inside info.Koukash No2 for Bulls. spanglishbull.uk
  • Score: 4

6:48pm Mon 3 Mar 14

melon head says...

interesting read in rl express today wonder if red hall will be busy painting over all the cracks that are appearing.were gonna need a bigger brush!!!!
interesting read in rl express today wonder if red hall will be busy painting over all the cracks that are appearing.were gonna need a bigger brush!!!! melon head
  • Score: 11

7:32pm Mon 3 Mar 14

tunnel end al says...

lets hope a new owner can be sorted out pretty quick, the team did what they had to do yesterday despite the efforts of the ref to give the game to the aussie bronco's oops I mean london , after what disco said after the wakey game we thought that the players that were still there would stick it out, the rfl should have put an embargo on the other teams not to poach any players ,as they have done with the bulls regarding brining in any more loanies in.
lets hope a new owner can be sorted out pretty quick, the team did what they had to do yesterday despite the efforts of the ref to give the game to the aussie bronco's oops I mean london , after what disco said after the wakey game we thought that the players that were still there would stick it out, the rfl should have put an embargo on the other teams not to poach any players ,as they have done with the bulls regarding brining in any more loanies in. tunnel end al
  • Score: 3

7:39pm Mon 3 Mar 14

tunnel end al says...

and whist im on a roll, when will Ferguson and blythe be back with em we will not be a bad side as long as we don't have any more jumping ship, so come on the people who used to fill the place, lets get behind the lads and show the rfl and all the money teams in the super league that we are still a force to be reckoned with
and whist im on a roll, when will Ferguson and blythe be back with em we will not be a bad side as long as we don't have any more jumping ship, so come on the people who used to fill the place, lets get behind the lads and show the rfl and all the money teams in the super league that we are still a force to be reckoned with tunnel end al
  • Score: 7

7:45pm Mon 3 Mar 14

portugalbull says...

spanglishbull.uk wrote:
Clayton and Sheffield,
Fact, inside info.Koukash No2 for Bulls.
Does that mean if money man comes in and offers to pay off creditors then RFL will review points deduction? It may open door to deal from buyer ie all creditors paid no points, majority paid 2points, some paid 4points, or none paid 6points.
RFL said Moore and co wanted to buy club with clubs money, but wasn't that how Glazers bought Man United and that was a more substantial sum.h
[quote][p][bold]spanglishbull.uk[/bold] wrote: Clayton and Sheffield, Fact, inside info.Koukash No2 for Bulls.[/p][/quote]Does that mean if money man comes in and offers to pay off creditors then RFL will review points deduction? It may open door to deal from buyer ie all creditors paid no points, majority paid 2points, some paid 4points, or none paid 6points. RFL said Moore and co wanted to buy club with clubs money, but wasn't that how Glazers bought Man United and that was a more substantial sum.h portugalbull
  • Score: 2

8:11pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Claytonbull says...

portugalbull wrote:
spanglishbull.uk wrote:
Clayton and Sheffield,
Fact, inside info.Koukash No2 for Bulls.
Does that mean if money man comes in and offers to pay off creditors then RFL will review points deduction? It may open door to deal from buyer ie all creditors paid no points, majority paid 2points, some paid 4points, or none paid 6points.
RFL said Moore and co wanted to buy club with clubs money, but wasn't that how Glazers bought Man United and that was a more substantial sum.h
Don't think we ll get any points back due to the fact one of the creditors put us into administration by calling in there debt if the RFL had allowed Moore n co to pay them off and promised no points deduction we might not have been to bad. Like I said earlier there's a lot more to come I believe and I think some people that slated Moore n co on here might have to eat humble pie.
[quote][p][bold]portugalbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spanglishbull.uk[/bold] wrote: Clayton and Sheffield, Fact, inside info.Koukash No2 for Bulls.[/p][/quote]Does that mean if money man comes in and offers to pay off creditors then RFL will review points deduction? It may open door to deal from buyer ie all creditors paid no points, majority paid 2points, some paid 4points, or none paid 6points. RFL said Moore and co wanted to buy club with clubs money, but wasn't that how Glazers bought Man United and that was a more substantial sum.h[/p][/quote]Don't think we ll get any points back due to the fact one of the creditors put us into administration by calling in there debt if the RFL had allowed Moore n co to pay them off and promised no points deduction we might not have been to bad. Like I said earlier there's a lot more to come I believe and I think some people that slated Moore n co on here might have to eat humble pie. Claytonbull
  • Score: 5

8:12pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Bowlingboy says...

Intrigued to see what comes of the koukash rumour...
Anyone that is not an utter bell end would be a good start.
Intrigued to see what comes of the koukash rumour... Anyone that is not an utter bell end would be a good start. Bowlingboy
  • Score: 3

8:18pm Mon 3 Mar 14

nosher says...

I hope I am proved wrong, but I feel Ferguson's heart is not in it and he will be next to jump ship.
I hope I am proved wrong, but I feel Ferguson's heart is not in it and he will be next to jump ship. nosher
  • Score: 3

9:04pm Mon 3 Mar 14

Sheffieldbull says...

nosher wrote:
I hope I am proved wrong, but I feel Ferguson's heart is not in it and he will be next to jump ship.
Kinda have that feeling too- also hope to be wrong...
[quote][p][bold]nosher[/bold] wrote: I hope I am proved wrong, but I feel Ferguson's heart is not in it and he will be next to jump ship.[/p][/quote]Kinda have that feeling too- also hope to be wrong... Sheffieldbull
  • Score: 1

11:09pm Mon 3 Mar 14

bradfordbronco says...

They probably already been tapped up and agreed deals with other clubs should a new buyer emerge and that contracts get transferred.

If a new buyer takes over the existing business then do the contracts still stand. Which business is in administration. As far as can make out OK bulls Ltd are in admin and yet didn't the players contracts get transferred to Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd. If they didn't and If someone buys OK Bulls is Carvell still one of our players?

The RFL need to make it clear to the other clubs what the rules are regarding signing players from the Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd or OK Bulls Ltd.
I wont hold my breath waiting for them to make a decission
They probably already been tapped up and agreed deals with other clubs should a new buyer emerge and that contracts get transferred. If a new buyer takes over the existing business then do the contracts still stand. Which business is in administration. As far as can make out OK bulls Ltd are in admin and yet didn't the players contracts get transferred to Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd. If they didn't and If someone buys OK Bulls is Carvell still one of our players? The RFL need to make it clear to the other clubs what the rules are regarding signing players from the Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd or OK Bulls Ltd. I wont hold my breath waiting for them to make a decission bradfordbronco
  • Score: 1

1:41pm Tue 4 Mar 14

portugalbull says...

Claytonbull wrote:
portugalbull wrote:
spanglishbull.uk wrote:
Clayton and Sheffield,
Fact, inside info.Koukash No2 for Bulls.
Does that mean if money man comes in and offers to pay off creditors then RFL will review points deduction? It may open door to deal from buyer ie all creditors paid no points, majority paid 2points, some paid 4points, or none paid 6points.
RFL said Moore and co wanted to buy club with clubs money, but wasn't that how Glazers bought Man United and that was a more substantial sum.h
Don't think we ll get any points back due to the fact one of the creditors put us into administration by calling in there debt if the RFL had allowed Moore n co to pay them off and promised no points deduction we might not have been to bad. Like I said earlier there's a lot more to come I believe and I think some people that slated Moore n co on here might have to eat humble pie.
I thought I read that the owner with 1 share put the O K Bulls into admin so they did not become responsible for the debt
[quote][p][bold]Claytonbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]portugalbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spanglishbull.uk[/bold] wrote: Clayton and Sheffield, Fact, inside info.Koukash No2 for Bulls.[/p][/quote]Does that mean if money man comes in and offers to pay off creditors then RFL will review points deduction? It may open door to deal from buyer ie all creditors paid no points, majority paid 2points, some paid 4points, or none paid 6points. RFL said Moore and co wanted to buy club with clubs money, but wasn't that how Glazers bought Man United and that was a more substantial sum.h[/p][/quote]Don't think we ll get any points back due to the fact one of the creditors put us into administration by calling in there debt if the RFL had allowed Moore n co to pay them off and promised no points deduction we might not have been to bad. Like I said earlier there's a lot more to come I believe and I think some people that slated Moore n co on here might have to eat humble pie.[/p][/quote]I thought I read that the owner with 1 share put the O K Bulls into admin so they did not become responsible for the debt portugalbull
  • Score: 0

1:41pm Tue 4 Mar 14

portugalbull says...

Claytonbull wrote:
portugalbull wrote:
spanglishbull.uk wrote:
Clayton and Sheffield,
Fact, inside info.Koukash No2 for Bulls.
Does that mean if money man comes in and offers to pay off creditors then RFL will review points deduction? It may open door to deal from buyer ie all creditors paid no points, majority paid 2points, some paid 4points, or none paid 6points.
RFL said Moore and co wanted to buy club with clubs money, but wasn't that how Glazers bought Man United and that was a more substantial sum.h
Don't think we ll get any points back due to the fact one of the creditors put us into administration by calling in there debt if the RFL had allowed Moore n co to pay them off and promised no points deduction we might not have been to bad. Like I said earlier there's a lot more to come I believe and I think some people that slated Moore n co on here might have to eat humble pie.
I thought I read that the owner with 1 share put the O K Bulls into admin so they did not become responsible for the debt
[quote][p][bold]Claytonbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]portugalbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spanglishbull.uk[/bold] wrote: Clayton and Sheffield, Fact, inside info.Koukash No2 for Bulls.[/p][/quote]Does that mean if money man comes in and offers to pay off creditors then RFL will review points deduction? It may open door to deal from buyer ie all creditors paid no points, majority paid 2points, some paid 4points, or none paid 6points. RFL said Moore and co wanted to buy club with clubs money, but wasn't that how Glazers bought Man United and that was a more substantial sum.h[/p][/quote]Don't think we ll get any points back due to the fact one of the creditors put us into administration by calling in there debt if the RFL had allowed Moore n co to pay them off and promised no points deduction we might not have been to bad. Like I said earlier there's a lot more to come I believe and I think some people that slated Moore n co on here might have to eat humble pie.[/p][/quote]I thought I read that the owner with 1 share put the O K Bulls into admin so they did not become responsible for the debt portugalbull
  • Score: 0

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