Richard Lamb's talks with administrator on potential Bradford Bulls purchase will be early next week

Richard Lamb won't be at the Bulls game on Sunday but is due to meet the administrator next week

Richard Lamb won't be at the Bulls game on Sunday but is due to meet the administrator next week

First published in Sport Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Photograph of the Author by , Bradford Bulls Reporter

Richard Lamb will meet administrator David Wilson for discussions in Leeds early next week as he weighs up the prospect of making an offer for the Bulls.

The club was placed back into the hands of the administrator this week when Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd withdrew their bid.

Lamb’s initial offer was turned down by Wilson last week but he remains keen to seize control and is believed to be facing competition from at least two other interested parties.

The London-based businessman said: “David Wilson has contacted me and I plan to meet him early next week.

“I had offered to help out with the running of Sunday’s game but the administrator said everything was in place.

“Ralph Rimmer has also been in touch and, in theory, hopefully things will start to develop next week.”

Lamb had originally planned to attend Sunday’s game against London after being invited by Andrew Calvert, who left the club this week along with Mark Moore and Ian Watt.

Lamb added: “Andrew has contacted me to say he would definitely not be going to Sunday’s game.

“And I think it would be inappropriate of me to attend because I was previously invited by the old directors and the club is now being run by the administrator.”

Meanwhile, Hull FC coach Lee Radford has backed up Francis Cummins’ claims that the tapping up of players is rife within the game.

The Bulls chief spoke of the “vultures circling” his players since the start of pre-season but Radford said agents were playing a part in the process.

The ex-Bradford player, who brought Garreth Carvell to the club from Odsal, said: “I’ve read Franny’s comments that the vultures are circling, but it is difficult for other coaches when agents are ringing and saying this guy is available or that guy is available. It is going on, dead set it’s going on.

“But poor management has effectively put a lot of blokes at risk of not getting paid. You don’t ever want to see that in our sport.

“I know a lot of the off-field staff there and it is sad to see a club like that with such history and, certainly in the Super League era, that’s had that much success.

“I’m surprised it’s come to this in the short time since I left but as a player you don’t know where the dollars are going.

“It’s bad management off the field that has effectively cost a great club.

“It’s been a rollercoaster there since the Bulls went into administration first time around.

“It’s unfortunate for them but it is what it is.”

Meanwhile, it remains to be seen whether Carvell will be fit to face the Bulls in next Friday’s clash at the KC Stadium.

The prop is nursing an ankle injury and has not been included in Hull’s squad for their clash with his former club Warrington on Sunday.

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7:23am Fri 28 Feb 14

bradfordbronco says...

Lets hope the RFL just keep out of it. Their constant interference and checks on people hasn't helped one bit. Its just prolonged the saga pushed up the administrators bills and ensured there been no money left for creditors.

Had all their checking and due diligence worked worked would we have ended up with them making so many mistakes in giving the the go ahead to every group they since criticised and blamed for the state of the club

They might as well just let keep out of it . Let the administrator and Lamb come ta an agreement then try help rather than punish mr lamb fore mistakes of the previous owners.

That would be the best way the governing body could help secure the future of the club and its supporters.

In other words. Just keep out of it Mr Rimmer, Solly and Co. You've caused enough damage
Lets hope the RFL just keep out of it. Their constant interference and checks on people hasn't helped one bit. Its just prolonged the saga pushed up the administrators bills and ensured there been no money left for creditors. Had all their checking and due diligence worked worked would we have ended up with them making so many mistakes in giving the the go ahead to every group they since criticised and blamed for the state of the club They might as well just let keep out of it . Let the administrator and Lamb come ta an agreement then try help rather than punish mr lamb fore mistakes of the previous owners. That would be the best way the governing body could help secure the future of the club and its supporters. In other words. Just keep out of it Mr Rimmer, Solly and Co. You've caused enough damage bradfordbronco
  • Score: 8

7:40am Fri 28 Feb 14

fedupwiththeBS says...

That's enough talking about me, what do you think of me? getting the feeling that Lamb is all about Lamb and what owning the Bulls can do for him rather than what he can do for the Bulls.

He is not the only bid on the table but the others are keeping quiet about their position until after the decision has been made.

We do not need another owner that is in it for himself. We have just got rid of OK and MM so lets have someone who is genuinely passionate about the Club and from Bradford!
That's enough talking about me, what do you think of me? getting the feeling that Lamb is all about Lamb and what owning the Bulls can do for him rather than what he can do for the Bulls. He is not the only bid on the table but the others are keeping quiet about their position until after the decision has been made. We do not need another owner that is in it for himself. We have just got rid of OK and MM so lets have someone who is genuinely passionate about the Club and from Bradford! fedupwiththeBS
  • Score: 6

7:41am Fri 28 Feb 14

Bring Cordle back......... says...

Maybe Mr Lamb should attend the game by paying on the turnstiles and having a mingle with the fans? That way you see what the fans, the club and the game day experience is about outside of the accounts! I wouldn't by a house on a surveyors report without having a look around myself.
Maybe Mr Lamb should attend the game by paying on the turnstiles and having a mingle with the fans? That way you see what the fans, the club and the game day experience is about outside of the accounts! I wouldn't by a house on a surveyors report without having a look around myself. Bring Cordle back.........
  • Score: 12

7:54am Fri 28 Feb 14

AUGUST1964 says...

fedupwiththeBS wrote:
That's enough talking about me, what do you think of me? getting the feeling that Lamb is all about Lamb and what owning the Bulls can do for him rather than what he can do for the Bulls. He is not the only bid on the table but the others are keeping quiet about their position until after the decision has been made. We do not need another owner that is in it for himself. We have just got rid of OK and MM so lets have someone who is genuinely passionate about the Club and from Bradford!
Who would that be then?
[quote][p][bold]fedupwiththeBS[/bold] wrote: That's enough talking about me, what do you think of me? getting the feeling that Lamb is all about Lamb and what owning the Bulls can do for him rather than what he can do for the Bulls. He is not the only bid on the table but the others are keeping quiet about their position until after the decision has been made. We do not need another owner that is in it for himself. We have just got rid of OK and MM so lets have someone who is genuinely passionate about the Club and from Bradford![/p][/quote]Who would that be then? AUGUST1964
  • Score: 9

8:18am Fri 28 Feb 14

-HCK3R- says...

Radford agrees with Cummins about the tapping up of players he couldn't exactly disagree could he !!!... ....also I wonder if any of the potential buyers of the club have asked the RFL if a reduction in the points deducted will be made if they come to an agreement to pay off the creditors ? if so I hope they get it in writing ......
Radford agrees with Cummins about the tapping up of players he couldn't exactly disagree could he !!!... ....also I wonder if any of the potential buyers of the club have asked the RFL if a reduction in the points deducted will be made if they come to an agreement to pay off the creditors ? if so I hope they get it in writing ...... -HCK3R-
  • Score: 8

8:33am Fri 28 Feb 14

Bowlingboy says...

-HCK3R- wrote:
Radford agrees with Cummins about the tapping up of players he couldn't exactly disagree could he !!!... ....also I wonder if any of the potential buyers of the club have asked the RFL if a reduction in the points deducted will be made if they come to an agreement to pay off the creditors ? if so I hope they get it in writing ......
That's what I thought?
if they agreed to pay a proportion of the creditors more than the last management team then they would be in the same boat as Wakefield and a 4 point deduction would be fitting?
Also with regards to sanctions they are not allowing to sign players for 12 months, can they sign on loan?
I am very interested personally as to who the mystery buyer is?

One thing is for certain the RFL and administartor need to do their job this time and makesure the buyer has cash to turn the situation around asap,
and sustainably.... time will be the test,
[quote][p][bold]-HCK3R-[/bold] wrote: Radford agrees with Cummins about the tapping up of players he couldn't exactly disagree could he !!!... ....also I wonder if any of the potential buyers of the club have asked the RFL if a reduction in the points deducted will be made if they come to an agreement to pay off the creditors ? if so I hope they get it in writing ......[/p][/quote]That's what I thought? if they agreed to pay a proportion of the creditors more than the last management team then they would be in the same boat as Wakefield and a 4 point deduction would be fitting? Also with regards to sanctions they are not allowing to sign players for 12 months, can they sign on loan? I am very interested personally as to who the mystery buyer is? One thing is for certain the RFL and administartor need to do their job this time and makesure the buyer has cash to turn the situation around asap, and sustainably.... time will be the test, Bowlingboy
  • Score: 7

8:55am Fri 28 Feb 14

Ballboy2012 says...

So Mr Lamb was all for Sunday helping out talking to the supporters and NOW hes not even going to watch the team he is thinking of buying........all talk.....
So Mr Lamb was all for Sunday helping out talking to the supporters and NOW hes not even going to watch the team he is thinking of buying........all talk..... Ballboy2012
  • Score: 8

8:56am Fri 28 Feb 14

Ballboy2012 says...

ps his comment is laughable ''its inappropriate for me to attend as i was invited by the old directors'' what an idiot..
ps his comment is laughable ''its inappropriate for me to attend as i was invited by the old directors'' what an idiot.. Ballboy2012
  • Score: 6

8:57am Fri 28 Feb 14

Ballboy2012 says...

Bring Cordle back......... wrote:
Maybe Mr Lamb should attend the game by paying on the turnstiles and having a mingle with the fans? That way you see what the fans, the club and the game day experience is about outside of the accounts! I wouldn't by a house on a surveyors report without having a look around myself.
Too true, Isnt Lamb in the media business.....doesnt show...!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Bring Cordle back.........[/bold] wrote: Maybe Mr Lamb should attend the game by paying on the turnstiles and having a mingle with the fans? That way you see what the fans, the club and the game day experience is about outside of the accounts! I wouldn't by a house on a surveyors report without having a look around myself.[/p][/quote]Too true, Isnt Lamb in the media business.....doesnt show...!!!! Ballboy2012
  • Score: 5

8:57am Fri 28 Feb 14

Ballboy2012 says...

Bring Cordle back......... wrote:
Maybe Mr Lamb should attend the game by paying on the turnstiles and having a mingle with the fans? That way you see what the fans, the club and the game day experience is about outside of the accounts! I wouldn't by a house on a surveyors report without having a look around myself.
Too true, Isnt Lamb in the media business.....doesnt show...!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Bring Cordle back.........[/bold] wrote: Maybe Mr Lamb should attend the game by paying on the turnstiles and having a mingle with the fans? That way you see what the fans, the club and the game day experience is about outside of the accounts! I wouldn't by a house on a surveyors report without having a look around myself.[/p][/quote]Too true, Isnt Lamb in the media business.....doesnt show...!!!! Ballboy2012
  • Score: 2

9:23am Fri 28 Feb 14

spanglishbull.uk says...

Bronco,
Fully agree with you re R.F.L .Let them keep out of it and let the Administrator do his job.He should know if Mr.Lamb has the cash and is a fit person to run the club.That lot at Red Hall do not know how to tie their own shoe laces.
Bronco, Fully agree with you re R.F.L .Let them keep out of it and let the Administrator do his job.He should know if Mr.Lamb has the cash and is a fit person to run the club.That lot at Red Hall do not know how to tie their own shoe laces. spanglishbull.uk
  • Score: 2

9:30am Fri 28 Feb 14

Bowlingboy says...

spanglishbull.uk wrote:
Bronco,
Fully agree with you re R.F.L .Let them keep out of it and let the Administrator do his job.He should know if Mr.Lamb has the cash and is a fit person to run the club.That lot at Red Hall do not know how to tie their own shoe laces.
Spot on.

Base the the decision on the potential buyers finances and business plan,
Rather than what sales pitch they offer up to the RFL.
[quote][p][bold]spanglishbull.uk[/bold] wrote: Bronco, Fully agree with you re R.F.L .Let them keep out of it and let the Administrator do his job.He should know if Mr.Lamb has the cash and is a fit person to run the club.That lot at Red Hall do not know how to tie their own shoe laces.[/p][/quote]Spot on. Base the the decision on the potential buyers finances and business plan, Rather than what sales pitch they offer up to the RFL. Bowlingboy
  • Score: 0

9:31am Fri 28 Feb 14

captain grumpy says...

How can you say the RFL should keep out of it. It was this administrator that accepted the bed mans offer and the RL quite rightly refused it as they were using season ticket money to buy the club. Now it turns out they were selling safety barriers for scrap. You just couldn't make it up.
How can you say the RFL should keep out of it. It was this administrator that accepted the bed mans offer and the RL quite rightly refused it as they were using season ticket money to buy the club. Now it turns out they were selling safety barriers for scrap. You just couldn't make it up. captain grumpy
  • Score: 9

9:42am Fri 28 Feb 14

Holidays2014 says...

You have no idea of the facts. Bradford Bulls 2014 offered to pay off all creditors apart from OK. Don't kid yourselves that the RFL care about that. Bradford Bulls 2014 business plan was strong but this will all come out in the wash.
You have no idea of the facts. Bradford Bulls 2014 offered to pay off all creditors apart from OK. Don't kid yourselves that the RFL care about that. Bradford Bulls 2014 business plan was strong but this will all come out in the wash. Holidays2014
  • Score: -4

9:50am Fri 28 Feb 14

handoff says...

bradfordbronco wrote:
Lets hope the RFL just keep out of it. Their constant interference and checks on people hasn't helped one bit. Its just prolonged the saga pushed up the administrators bills and ensured there been no money left for creditors.

Had all their checking and due diligence worked worked would we have ended up with them making so many mistakes in giving the the go ahead to every group they since criticised and blamed for the state of the club

They might as well just let keep out of it . Let the administrator and Lamb come ta an agreement then try help rather than punish mr lamb fore mistakes of the previous owners.

That would be the best way the governing body could help secure the future of the club and its supporters.

In other words. Just keep out of it Mr Rimmer, Solly and Co. You've caused enough damage
Hmmm, I would just like the checks they did to be meaningful, perhaps we would have avoided Khan. They picked up Whitcut's unsuitability (that's an understatement) and I understand Khan's financial dealing are somewhat interesting (I have no wish to commit libel but it may be interesting to see the results of a police and fraud investigation should one be deemed necessary).

May I suggest the RFL spend their energies addressing the role of agents and the breaking of any codes of conduct (if indeed they exist). I can see the RFL on deck with a a telescope to their blind eye ..... "I see no ships".
[quote][p][bold]bradfordbronco[/bold] wrote: Lets hope the RFL just keep out of it. Their constant interference and checks on people hasn't helped one bit. Its just prolonged the saga pushed up the administrators bills and ensured there been no money left for creditors. Had all their checking and due diligence worked worked would we have ended up with them making so many mistakes in giving the the go ahead to every group they since criticised and blamed for the state of the club They might as well just let keep out of it . Let the administrator and Lamb come ta an agreement then try help rather than punish mr lamb fore mistakes of the previous owners. That would be the best way the governing body could help secure the future of the club and its supporters. In other words. Just keep out of it Mr Rimmer, Solly and Co. You've caused enough damage[/p][/quote]Hmmm, I would just like the checks they did to be meaningful, perhaps we would have avoided Khan. They picked up Whitcut's unsuitability (that's an understatement) and I understand Khan's financial dealing are somewhat interesting (I have no wish to commit libel but it may be interesting to see the results of a police and fraud investigation should one be deemed necessary). May I suggest the RFL spend their energies addressing the role of agents and the breaking of any codes of conduct (if indeed they exist). I can see the RFL on deck with a a telescope to their blind eye ..... "I see no ships". handoff
  • Score: 0

9:51am Fri 28 Feb 14

Scrouge says...

captain grumpy wrote:
How can you say the RFL should keep out of it. It was this administrator that accepted the bed mans offer and the RL quite rightly refused it as they were using season ticket money to buy the club. Now it turns out they were selling safety barriers for scrap. You just couldn't make it up.
All those who are against the Rugby Football League should accept they run and administer the Game. If you do not like it then find another Sport to watch.
Watching the Bulls Circus is more entertaining than any Soap on TV.
Its a BUSINESS folks and must be run like one. Pay your Bills and Taxes manage the Budget or go out of Business. GOT IT.
[quote][p][bold]captain grumpy[/bold] wrote: How can you say the RFL should keep out of it. It was this administrator that accepted the bed mans offer and the RL quite rightly refused it as they were using season ticket money to buy the club. Now it turns out they were selling safety barriers for scrap. You just couldn't make it up.[/p][/quote]All those who are against the Rugby Football League should accept they run and administer the Game. If you do not like it then find another Sport to watch. Watching the Bulls Circus is more entertaining than any Soap on TV. Its a BUSINESS folks and must be run like one. Pay your Bills and Taxes manage the Budget or go out of Business. GOT IT. Scrouge
  • Score: -1

9:53am Fri 28 Feb 14

handoff says...

spanglishbull.uk wrote:
Bronco,
Fully agree with you re R.F.L .Let them keep out of it and let the Administrator do his job.He should know if Mr.Lamb has the cash and is a fit person to run the club.That lot at Red Hall do not know how to tie their own shoe laces.
Being an administrator is no guarantee of competence. Remember our last one?
[quote][p][bold]spanglishbull.uk[/bold] wrote: Bronco, Fully agree with you re R.F.L .Let them keep out of it and let the Administrator do his job.He should know if Mr.Lamb has the cash and is a fit person to run the club.That lot at Red Hall do not know how to tie their own shoe laces.[/p][/quote]Being an administrator is no guarantee of competence. Remember our last one? handoff
  • Score: 5

9:59am Fri 28 Feb 14

spanglishbull.uk says...

Mr.Ralph Rimmer.Was he the same man who was C.E.O at Sheffield who after their Cup Win in 1998 oversaw their demise.Was he not instrumental in the catastrophic merger with Huddersfield.Thanks to Mark Aston that little club are still in existence and doing quite well without this fellows knowledge.
Mr.Ralph Rimmer.Was he the same man who was C.E.O at Sheffield who after their Cup Win in 1998 oversaw their demise.Was he not instrumental in the catastrophic merger with Huddersfield.Thanks to Mark Aston that little club are still in existence and doing quite well without this fellows knowledge. spanglishbull.uk
  • Score: 4

9:59am Fri 28 Feb 14

billybobbull says...

Scrouge wrote:
captain grumpy wrote:
How can you say the RFL should keep out of it. It was this administrator that accepted the bed mans offer and the RL quite rightly refused it as they were using season ticket money to buy the club. Now it turns out they were selling safety barriers for scrap. You just couldn't make it up.
All those who are against the Rugby Football League should accept they run and administer the Game. If you do not like it then find another Sport to watch.
Watching the Bulls Circus is more entertaining than any Soap on TV.
Its a BUSINESS folks and must be run like one. Pay your Bills and Taxes manage the Budget or go out of Business. GOT IT.
That's right. Well done.
[quote][p][bold]Scrouge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]captain grumpy[/bold] wrote: How can you say the RFL should keep out of it. It was this administrator that accepted the bed mans offer and the RL quite rightly refused it as they were using season ticket money to buy the club. Now it turns out they were selling safety barriers for scrap. You just couldn't make it up.[/p][/quote]All those who are against the Rugby Football League should accept they run and administer the Game. If you do not like it then find another Sport to watch. Watching the Bulls Circus is more entertaining than any Soap on TV. Its a BUSINESS folks and must be run like one. Pay your Bills and Taxes manage the Budget or go out of Business. GOT IT.[/p][/quote]That's right. Well done. billybobbull
  • Score: 5

10:05am Fri 28 Feb 14

Odsal Man says...

Holidays2014 wrote:
You have no idea of the facts. Bradford Bulls 2014 offered to pay off all creditors apart from OK. Don't kid yourselves that the RFL care about that. Bradford Bulls 2014 business plan was strong but this will all come out in the wash.
What business plan is this then?

The three potless cowboys had ample opportunity to purchase the club for £300,000 as agreed between Omar Khan and Ryan Whitcut and Mark Moore. The fact that they didn't speaks volumes about their financial situation. They could have averted administration and certainly stopped Carvell and Sammut from leaving. I feel for Andrew Calvert in all of this. Getting himself mixed up with two people who put in less than £60,000 together. Madness.
[quote][p][bold]Holidays2014[/bold] wrote: You have no idea of the facts. Bradford Bulls 2014 offered to pay off all creditors apart from OK. Don't kid yourselves that the RFL care about that. Bradford Bulls 2014 business plan was strong but this will all come out in the wash.[/p][/quote]What business plan is this then? The three potless cowboys had ample opportunity to purchase the club for £300,000 as agreed between Omar Khan and Ryan Whitcut and Mark Moore. The fact that they didn't speaks volumes about their financial situation. They could have averted administration and certainly stopped Carvell and Sammut from leaving. I feel for Andrew Calvert in all of this. Getting himself mixed up with two people who put in less than £60,000 together. Madness. Odsal Man
  • Score: 8

10:07am Fri 28 Feb 14

Odsal Man says...

Scrouge wrote:
captain grumpy wrote:
How can you say the RFL should keep out of it. It was this administrator that accepted the bed mans offer and the RL quite rightly refused it as they were using season ticket money to buy the club. Now it turns out they were selling safety barriers for scrap. You just couldn't make it up.
All those who are against the Rugby Football League should accept they run and administer the Game. If you do not like it then find another Sport to watch.
Watching the Bulls Circus is more entertaining than any Soap on TV.
Its a BUSINESS folks and must be run like one. Pay your Bills and Taxes manage the Budget or go out of Business. GOT IT.
Unfortunately the three cowboys didn't have a clue about running a Super League club.
[quote][p][bold]Scrouge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]captain grumpy[/bold] wrote: How can you say the RFL should keep out of it. It was this administrator that accepted the bed mans offer and the RL quite rightly refused it as they were using season ticket money to buy the club. Now it turns out they were selling safety barriers for scrap. You just couldn't make it up.[/p][/quote]All those who are against the Rugby Football League should accept they run and administer the Game. If you do not like it then find another Sport to watch. Watching the Bulls Circus is more entertaining than any Soap on TV. Its a BUSINESS folks and must be run like one. Pay your Bills and Taxes manage the Budget or go out of Business. GOT IT.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately the three cowboys didn't have a clue about running a Super League club. Odsal Man
  • Score: 2

10:08am Fri 28 Feb 14

UP THE BULLS says...

I still would love to no how lamb will finance all what needs doing to the club if 3 money who have got successful businesses can't do it between them how can one man do it all on his own when he really hasn't got millions to waste? Still think he is just doing it for publicity otherwise the club woul have been his a week ago tbh
I still would love to no how lamb will finance all what needs doing to the club if 3 money who have got successful businesses can't do it between them how can one man do it all on his own when he really hasn't got millions to waste? Still think he is just doing it for publicity otherwise the club woul have been his a week ago tbh UP THE BULLS
  • Score: 4

10:13am Fri 28 Feb 14

bullybullman says...

We need a buyer who has a least 500k to invest immediately ! it is no good getting a buyer with nothing to invest as we will be in the same boat again very soon.

I think its time to admit that Bradford Bulls as it is now is not a viable business. The rent to the RFL for the lease the poor state of the ground & the money needed to run it ect all leads to financial hardship.

I think the only way forward is to go to Valley Parade coming out of super league into the championship & starting again. There has got to be something in this for Lamb but I can not see what ! he is not a wealthy backer with cash to burn so what will he bring in the way of investment.

Odsal is a whole in the ground that needs filling in I grew up next to Odsal so I have a place in my heart for it but we need to survive & move forward & this can only happen by getting this monkey off our back.

What the club is going through is terrible & gut wrenching as it is to think we may now go bust after all this it may not be the end but the start of re-building.

Caisley , Hood , Khan , Moore all to blame equally miss managed by the lot of em ! Noble too did one when the going got tough & Macca did untold damage with the dross he signed on mega bucks. These signings & decisions were not made by the RFL they are to blame for allowing it to go on as they should be regulating clubs.

I only hope Lamb is not just another tupence tycoon but only time will tell. Hope the fans turn out in numbers Sunday as in reality each game could be our last.
We need a buyer who has a least 500k to invest immediately ! it is no good getting a buyer with nothing to invest as we will be in the same boat again very soon. I think its time to admit that Bradford Bulls as it is now is not a viable business. The rent to the RFL for the lease the poor state of the ground & the money needed to run it ect all leads to financial hardship. I think the only way forward is to go to Valley Parade coming out of super league into the championship & starting again. There has got to be something in this for Lamb but I can not see what ! he is not a wealthy backer with cash to burn so what will he bring in the way of investment. Odsal is a whole in the ground that needs filling in I grew up next to Odsal so I have a place in my heart for it but we need to survive & move forward & this can only happen by getting this monkey off our back. What the club is going through is terrible & gut wrenching as it is to think we may now go bust after all this it may not be the end but the start of re-building. Caisley , Hood , Khan , Moore all to blame equally miss managed by the lot of em ! Noble too did one when the going got tough & Macca did untold damage with the dross he signed on mega bucks. These signings & decisions were not made by the RFL they are to blame for allowing it to go on as they should be regulating clubs. I only hope Lamb is not just another tupence tycoon but only time will tell. Hope the fans turn out in numbers Sunday as in reality each game could be our last. bullybullman
  • Score: 11

10:27am Fri 28 Feb 14

Videoref says...

If the administrator accepted a bid from BB 2014 ltd when they didn't intend injecting any cash just money from the club (ie £300,00) yet rejected an offer from Richard Lamb for outright purchase, this doesn't exactly inspire confidence in negotiations does it?
Furthermore, if BB2014 were paying £300,000 out of the clubs funds it explains why they wanted to save £400,000 on the expenditure. Cut £400k, spend £300k= own the club, pay nothing out and £100k too the good. Sounds good bit of business to me-not particularly good for the club but good for the directors
If the administrator accepted a bid from BB 2014 ltd when they didn't intend injecting any cash just money from the club (ie £300,00) yet rejected an offer from Richard Lamb for outright purchase, this doesn't exactly inspire confidence in negotiations does it? Furthermore, if BB2014 were paying £300,000 out of the clubs funds it explains why they wanted to save £400,000 on the expenditure. Cut £400k, spend £300k= own the club, pay nothing out and £100k too the good. Sounds good bit of business to me-not particularly good for the club but good for the directors Videoref
  • Score: 7

10:36am Fri 28 Feb 14

tinytoonster says...

bullybullman wrote:
We need a buyer who has a least 500k to invest immediately ! it is no good getting a buyer with nothing to invest as we will be in the same boat again very soon.

I think its time to admit that Bradford Bulls as it is now is not a viable business. The rent to the RFL for the lease the poor state of the ground & the money needed to run it ect all leads to financial hardship.

I think the only way forward is to go to Valley Parade coming out of super league into the championship & starting again. There has got to be something in this for Lamb but I can not see what ! he is not a wealthy backer with cash to burn so what will he bring in the way of investment.

Odsal is a whole in the ground that needs filling in I grew up next to Odsal so I have a place in my heart for it but we need to survive & move forward & this can only happen by getting this monkey off our back.

What the club is going through is terrible & gut wrenching as it is to think we may now go bust after all this it may not be the end but the start of re-building.

Caisley , Hood , Khan , Moore all to blame equally miss managed by the lot of em ! Noble too did one when the going got tough & Macca did untold damage with the dross he signed on mega bucks. These signings & decisions were not made by the RFL they are to blame for allowing it to go on as they should be regulating clubs.

I only hope Lamb is not just another tupence tycoon but only time will tell. Hope the fans turn out in numbers Sunday as in reality each game could be our last.
oh look we are in trouble, lets go to valley parade!
told us to get stuffed how many times?
maybe we don't want you now ruining our pitch.
would need some investment in the pitch to share.
it gets bad now when we play twice a week so imagine rugby as well?
[quote][p][bold]bullybullman[/bold] wrote: We need a buyer who has a least 500k to invest immediately ! it is no good getting a buyer with nothing to invest as we will be in the same boat again very soon. I think its time to admit that Bradford Bulls as it is now is not a viable business. The rent to the RFL for the lease the poor state of the ground & the money needed to run it ect all leads to financial hardship. I think the only way forward is to go to Valley Parade coming out of super league into the championship & starting again. There has got to be something in this for Lamb but I can not see what ! he is not a wealthy backer with cash to burn so what will he bring in the way of investment. Odsal is a whole in the ground that needs filling in I grew up next to Odsal so I have a place in my heart for it but we need to survive & move forward & this can only happen by getting this monkey off our back. What the club is going through is terrible & gut wrenching as it is to think we may now go bust after all this it may not be the end but the start of re-building. Caisley , Hood , Khan , Moore all to blame equally miss managed by the lot of em ! Noble too did one when the going got tough & Macca did untold damage with the dross he signed on mega bucks. These signings & decisions were not made by the RFL they are to blame for allowing it to go on as they should be regulating clubs. I only hope Lamb is not just another tupence tycoon but only time will tell. Hope the fans turn out in numbers Sunday as in reality each game could be our last.[/p][/quote]oh look we are in trouble, lets go to valley parade! told us to get stuffed how many times? maybe we don't want you now ruining our pitch. would need some investment in the pitch to share. it gets bad now when we play twice a week so imagine rugby as well? tinytoonster
  • Score: -6

11:00am Fri 28 Feb 14

billybobbull says...

UP THE BULLS wrote:
I still would love to no how lamb will finance all what needs doing to the club if 3 money who have got successful businesses can't do it between them how can one man do it all on his own when he really hasn't got millions to waste? Still think he is just doing it for publicity otherwise the club woul have been his a week ago tbh
Why don' we just wait and see. Instead of speculating.
Mr Lamb, has been reasonably successful in his involvement in London Welsh. Brought investors in and sponsors. Their Business club has brought in intelligent business minded professionals who know business and can hep run/fund a successful club.
Plus the Marketing and PR around the World Cup was successful. His firm was partly responsible for that.
That's the key. Business first, because without that, the players don't get paid and we have no team and/or no club.
BUT, let's wait and see.
[quote][p][bold]UP THE BULLS[/bold] wrote: I still would love to no how lamb will finance all what needs doing to the club if 3 money who have got successful businesses can't do it between them how can one man do it all on his own when he really hasn't got millions to waste? Still think he is just doing it for publicity otherwise the club woul have been his a week ago tbh[/p][/quote]Why don' we just wait and see. Instead of speculating. Mr Lamb, has been reasonably successful in his involvement in London Welsh. Brought investors in and sponsors. Their Business club has brought in intelligent business minded professionals who know business and can hep run/fund a successful club. Plus the Marketing and PR around the World Cup was successful. His firm was partly responsible for that. That's the key. Business first, because without that, the players don't get paid and we have no team and/or no club. BUT, let's wait and see. billybobbull
  • Score: 1

1:00pm Fri 28 Feb 14

Odsal Man says...

Videoref wrote:
If the administrator accepted a bid from BB 2014 ltd when they didn't intend injecting any cash just money from the club (ie £300,00) yet rejected an offer from Richard Lamb for outright purchase, this doesn't exactly inspire confidence in negotiations does it?
Furthermore, if BB2014 were paying £300,000 out of the clubs funds it explains why they wanted to save £400,000 on the expenditure. Cut £400k, spend £300k= own the club, pay nothing out and £100k too the good. Sounds good bit of business to me-not particularly good for the club but good for the directors
Spot on and I don't see why everyone is jumping on the back of the RFL over this sorry tale.

Moore wanted them to advance him £500k of future sky tv money. What would he have done once that had all run out by August?
[quote][p][bold]Videoref[/bold] wrote: If the administrator accepted a bid from BB 2014 ltd when they didn't intend injecting any cash just money from the club (ie £300,00) yet rejected an offer from Richard Lamb for outright purchase, this doesn't exactly inspire confidence in negotiations does it? Furthermore, if BB2014 were paying £300,000 out of the clubs funds it explains why they wanted to save £400,000 on the expenditure. Cut £400k, spend £300k= own the club, pay nothing out and £100k too the good. Sounds good bit of business to me-not particularly good for the club but good for the directors[/p][/quote]Spot on and I don't see why everyone is jumping on the back of the RFL over this sorry tale. Moore wanted them to advance him £500k of future sky tv money. What would he have done once that had all run out by August? Odsal Man
  • Score: 3

1:07pm Fri 28 Feb 14

rogerthat! says...

Odsal Man wrote:
Holidays2014 wrote:
You have no idea of the facts. Bradford Bulls 2014 offered to pay off all creditors apart from OK. Don't kid yourselves that the RFL care about that. Bradford Bulls 2014 business plan was strong but this will all come out in the wash.
What business plan is this then?

The three potless cowboys had ample opportunity to purchase the club for £300,000 as agreed between Omar Khan and Ryan Whitcut and Mark Moore. The fact that they didn't speaks volumes about their financial situation. They could have averted administration and certainly stopped Carvell and Sammut from leaving. I feel for Andrew Calvert in all of this. Getting himself mixed up with two people who put in less than £60,000 together. Madness.
Don't forget Robbie is a Director of Bulls2014. Has he resigned or has the Company been wound up?
[quote][p][bold]Odsal Man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Holidays2014[/bold] wrote: You have no idea of the facts. Bradford Bulls 2014 offered to pay off all creditors apart from OK. Don't kid yourselves that the RFL care about that. Bradford Bulls 2014 business plan was strong but this will all come out in the wash.[/p][/quote]What business plan is this then? The three potless cowboys had ample opportunity to purchase the club for £300,000 as agreed between Omar Khan and Ryan Whitcut and Mark Moore. The fact that they didn't speaks volumes about their financial situation. They could have averted administration and certainly stopped Carvell and Sammut from leaving. I feel for Andrew Calvert in all of this. Getting himself mixed up with two people who put in less than £60,000 together. Madness.[/p][/quote]Don't forget Robbie is a Director of Bulls2014. Has he resigned or has the Company been wound up? rogerthat!
  • Score: 0

1:16pm Fri 28 Feb 14

Odsal Man says...

rogerthat! wrote:
Odsal Man wrote:
Holidays2014 wrote:
You have no idea of the facts. Bradford Bulls 2014 offered to pay off all creditors apart from OK. Don't kid yourselves that the RFL care about that. Bradford Bulls 2014 business plan was strong but this will all come out in the wash.
What business plan is this then?

The three potless cowboys had ample opportunity to purchase the club for £300,000 as agreed between Omar Khan and Ryan Whitcut and Mark Moore. The fact that they didn't speaks volumes about their financial situation. They could have averted administration and certainly stopped Carvell and Sammut from leaving. I feel for Andrew Calvert in all of this. Getting himself mixed up with two people who put in less than £60,000 together. Madness.
Don't forget Robbie is a Director of Bulls2014. Has he resigned or has the Company been wound up?
I'd imagine that the RFL are keeping Robbie at Odsal to ensure we can operate on a match day until the new owners have officially purchased the club from tje administrator.
The RFL have done the club a blessing in disguise with the six point deduction as the new owners will not be obliged to pay any of the creditors.
Whoever takes over the club needs to put the supporters first with open and honest dialogue.
[quote][p][bold]rogerthat![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Odsal Man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Holidays2014[/bold] wrote: You have no idea of the facts. Bradford Bulls 2014 offered to pay off all creditors apart from OK. Don't kid yourselves that the RFL care about that. Bradford Bulls 2014 business plan was strong but this will all come out in the wash.[/p][/quote]What business plan is this then? The three potless cowboys had ample opportunity to purchase the club for £300,000 as agreed between Omar Khan and Ryan Whitcut and Mark Moore. The fact that they didn't speaks volumes about their financial situation. They could have averted administration and certainly stopped Carvell and Sammut from leaving. I feel for Andrew Calvert in all of this. Getting himself mixed up with two people who put in less than £60,000 together. Madness.[/p][/quote]Don't forget Robbie is a Director of Bulls2014. Has he resigned or has the Company been wound up?[/p][/quote]I'd imagine that the RFL are keeping Robbie at Odsal to ensure we can operate on a match day until the new owners have officially purchased the club from tje administrator. The RFL have done the club a blessing in disguise with the six point deduction as the new owners will not be obliged to pay any of the creditors. Whoever takes over the club needs to put the supporters first with open and honest dialogue. Odsal Man
  • Score: 7

1:56pm Fri 28 Feb 14

bradfordbronco says...

Scrouge wrote:
captain grumpy wrote:
How can you say the RFL should keep out of it. It was this administrator that accepted the bed mans offer and the RL quite rightly refused it as they were using season ticket money to buy the club. Now it turns out they were selling safety barriers for scrap. You just couldn't make it up.
All those who are against the Rugby Football League should accept they run and administer the Game. If you do not like it then find another Sport to watch.
Watching the Bulls Circus is more entertaining than any Soap on TV.
Its a BUSINESS folks and must be run like one. Pay your Bills and Taxes manage the Budget or go out of Business. GOT IT.
Thats fine with me. I been a pasionate support of RL for over 30years. But if the Bulls fold then the RFL have put me off for good. I will be lost to the game. i'm not gonna watch Hudds or anyone else. Think i might go to Leeds Carneigie instead.

I hope the other 5000 hardcore Bulls fans do the same. The RFL need to know how we feel
[quote][p][bold]Scrouge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]captain grumpy[/bold] wrote: How can you say the RFL should keep out of it. It was this administrator that accepted the bed mans offer and the RL quite rightly refused it as they were using season ticket money to buy the club. Now it turns out they were selling safety barriers for scrap. You just couldn't make it up.[/p][/quote]All those who are against the Rugby Football League should accept they run and administer the Game. If you do not like it then find another Sport to watch. Watching the Bulls Circus is more entertaining than any Soap on TV. Its a BUSINESS folks and must be run like one. Pay your Bills and Taxes manage the Budget or go out of Business. GOT IT.[/p][/quote]Thats fine with me. I been a pasionate support of RL for over 30years. But if the Bulls fold then the RFL have put me off for good. I will be lost to the game. i'm not gonna watch Hudds or anyone else. Think i might go to Leeds Carneigie instead. I hope the other 5000 hardcore Bulls fans do the same. The RFL need to know how we feel bradfordbronco
  • Score: 2

8:07pm Fri 28 Feb 14

raisemeup says...

bullybullman wrote:
We need a buyer who has a least 500k to invest immediately ! it is no good getting a buyer with nothing to invest as we will be in the same boat again very soon.

I think its time to admit that Bradford Bulls as it is now is not a viable business. The rent to the RFL for the lease the poor state of the ground & the money needed to run it ect all leads to financial hardship.

I think the only way forward is to go to Valley Parade coming out of super league into the championship & starting again. There has got to be something in this for Lamb but I can not see what ! he is not a wealthy backer with cash to burn so what will he bring in the way of investment.

Odsal is a whole in the ground that needs filling in I grew up next to Odsal so I have a place in my heart for it but we need to survive & move forward & this can only happen by getting this monkey off our back.

What the club is going through is terrible & gut wrenching as it is to think we may now go bust after all this it may not be the end but the start of re-building.

Caisley , Hood , Khan , Moore all to blame equally miss managed by the lot of em ! Noble too did one when the going got tough & Macca did untold damage with the dross he signed on mega bucks. These signings & decisions were not made by the RFL they are to blame for allowing it to go on as they should be regulating clubs.

I only hope Lamb is not just another tupence tycoon but only time will tell. Hope the fans turn out in numbers Sunday as in reality each game could be our last.
From your post BB you should have been running the club...if everyone's wrong and you are the one that has got it right, get your bid in now. We wont need anyone else. You can paint the stadium, look after the pitch, make sure the water is warm in the dressing rooms, get all the insurance sorted, make sure Health and Safety don't close you down because the fencing is dangerous, then look after all the bars-the Coral stand hospitality-all the electricals- the car parking-the turnstiles- oh and by the way you will need the full compensation money and a good lawyer to keep the RFL happy?
What else could you do with the £500,000 you think will run a club for a season?

But that's nothing for you to worry about because like your assessment your wallet is probably just as empty. But thanks for helping to save the club.
[quote][p][bold]bullybullman[/bold] wrote: We need a buyer who has a least 500k to invest immediately ! it is no good getting a buyer with nothing to invest as we will be in the same boat again very soon. I think its time to admit that Bradford Bulls as it is now is not a viable business. The rent to the RFL for the lease the poor state of the ground & the money needed to run it ect all leads to financial hardship. I think the only way forward is to go to Valley Parade coming out of super league into the championship & starting again. There has got to be something in this for Lamb but I can not see what ! he is not a wealthy backer with cash to burn so what will he bring in the way of investment. Odsal is a whole in the ground that needs filling in I grew up next to Odsal so I have a place in my heart for it but we need to survive & move forward & this can only happen by getting this monkey off our back. What the club is going through is terrible & gut wrenching as it is to think we may now go bust after all this it may not be the end but the start of re-building. Caisley , Hood , Khan , Moore all to blame equally miss managed by the lot of em ! Noble too did one when the going got tough & Macca did untold damage with the dross he signed on mega bucks. These signings & decisions were not made by the RFL they are to blame for allowing it to go on as they should be regulating clubs. I only hope Lamb is not just another tupence tycoon but only time will tell. Hope the fans turn out in numbers Sunday as in reality each game could be our last.[/p][/quote]From your post BB you should have been running the club...if everyone's wrong and you are the one that has got it right, get your bid in now. We wont need anyone else. You can paint the stadium, look after the pitch, make sure the water is warm in the dressing rooms, get all the insurance sorted, make sure Health and Safety don't close you down because the fencing is dangerous, then look after all the bars-the Coral stand hospitality-all the electricals- the car parking-the turnstiles- oh and by the way you will need the full compensation money and a good lawyer to keep the RFL happy? What else could you do with the £500,000 you think will run a club for a season? But that's nothing for you to worry about because like your assessment your wallet is probably just as empty. But thanks for helping to save the club. raisemeup
  • Score: -1

10:30pm Sat 1 Mar 14

WISE OLD WALTER says...

Ballboy2012 wrote:
ps his comment is laughable ''its inappropriate for me to attend as i was invited by the old directors'' what an idiot..
Well they it takes one to know one .
[quote][p][bold]Ballboy2012[/bold] wrote: ps his comment is laughable ''its inappropriate for me to attend as i was invited by the old directors'' what an idiot..[/p][/quote]Well they it takes one to know one . WISE OLD WALTER
  • Score: 0

10:30pm Sat 1 Mar 14

WISE OLD WALTER says...

Ballboy2012 wrote:
ps his comment is laughable ''its inappropriate for me to attend as i was invited by the old directors'' what an idiot..
Well they say it takes one to know one .
[quote][p][bold]Ballboy2012[/bold] wrote: ps his comment is laughable ''its inappropriate for me to attend as i was invited by the old directors'' what an idiot..[/p][/quote]Well they say it takes one to know one . WISE OLD WALTER
  • Score: 1

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