Neither us nor Bradford Bulls will be fighting to avoid relegation - new Wildcats signing Jarrod Sammut

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Jarrod Sammut says there is enough quality at new club Wakefield and old club Bradford to mean they won't be fighting off relegation Jarrod Sammut says there is enough quality at new club Wakefield and old club Bradford to mean they won't be fighting off relegation

Jarrod Sammut last night made a shock switch from Bradford to Wakefield – then insisted neither side would be fighting relegation this season.

The Aussie stand-off, who turned 27 today, had one year remaining on his contract with the Bulls but made clear his desire to leave the club.

Bradford agreed to release him from his contract and it is understood that Wakefield have paid a fee for Sammut, who has signed a two-year deal at Belle Vue.

It remains to be seen whether he will face his former team-mates when Francis Cummins’ side travel to Wakefield in next Thursday’s televised Super League clash.

Sammut, who joined the Bulls from Crusaders two years ago, becomes the second player to quit Odsal following the club’s recent move into administration after Garreth Carvell’s switch to Hull FC.

The former Penrith star said: “It’s a new challenge for me now.

“I was comfortable at the Bulls but now I’m coming into a new environment with new plays and new calls to learn.

“I’m going to need to pick things up very quickly but I’m excited for the challenge.

“I’m a person that loves a challenge. I’ve always had people writing me off or saying things like I wouldn’t make it because I’m too small and stuff like that.

“I like to go out there and prove people wrong and I suppose that gives me the drive to succeed.”

Wakefield and Bradford are tipped to be among the sides battling to stay in Super League this term.

But the Malta international said: “It’s going to be a tough season, there’s no doubt about that.

“But I certainly don’t think we’re going to be too close to the relegation places and I think there’s enough quality at Bradford too that they won’t be.

“I’m not the sort of person to sit back and watch things unfold, I want to go out and make things happen and that’s what’s I intend to do.

“I think tough times bring the best out of players and makes people step up.”

Sammut said he is fit to face the Bulls on Thursday, and added: “It will be a bit strange to be on the other side to Bradford and people I’ve been good mates with for the last three years but that’s just the way it’s happened.”

Bulls chief executive Robbie Hunter-Paul paid tribute to Wakefield chairman Michael Carter for his handling of the transfer.

Hunter-Paul said: “For the internal culture of the squad, every player needs to have complete and utter loyalty to the club.

“If a player doesn’t want to play alongside their team-mates at Bradford Bulls, then they don’t deserve to be here.”

Carter said: “We recently got into dialogue with the Bulls regarding Jarrod, and we’re pleased to have reached a conclusion that is mutually beneficial for all parties.

“We look forward to welcoming Jarrod to the club and all associated with the Bulls to the Rapid Solicitors Stadium next week for our home opener.”

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9:35am Sat 15 Feb 14

bully4us says...

The only surprise here is where he has gone. Franny wasn’t 100% sure about him as he has criticised and sat him on the bench in the past for giving the ball away when we have just got it back. He is a maverick on and off the field and we will miss him. He also got into trouble on occasions with his use of social media having a go at his employers. When they said a few months ago that players could leave he was at the top of my list to jump ship.

Interesting to hear Robbie say: “For the internal culture of the squad, every player needs to have complete and utter loyalty to the club”. This sums this situation up for me. The club seem to be happy to let him go if it gives them a more settled squad.
We stay up or go down fighting for the club – not fighting against it!

We still have Gale / Gaskel along with Addey and Kearney as back-up so not much different from last year.
I actually have high hopes on Gaskel as I think he will be more of a traditional stand-off. Wakey have lost a lot of quality players and replaced Tim Smith with Sammut. They are worse off from last year. We are probably the same now so it will be a tight finish for that 12th position.

Franny must bring in 2-3 more players quickly with the money saved this year. Two props plus one back rower for me in case Addey is needed in the halves.

My big concern here is the damage this week has done to the current directors after the “ring fencing” and “our players are going nowhere” statements. Has their credibility been badly damaged? Do they now wish they could walk away and are they hoping a new bidder will allow them to walk?
The only surprise here is where he has gone. Franny wasn’t 100% sure about him as he has criticised and sat him on the bench in the past for giving the ball away when we have just got it back. He is a maverick on and off the field and we will miss him. He also got into trouble on occasions with his use of social media having a go at his employers. When they said a few months ago that players could leave he was at the top of my list to jump ship. Interesting to hear Robbie say: “For the internal culture of the squad, every player needs to have complete and utter loyalty to the club”. This sums this situation up for me. The club seem to be happy to let him go if it gives them a more settled squad. We stay up or go down fighting for the club – not fighting against it! We still have Gale / Gaskel along with Addey and Kearney as back-up so not much different from last year. I actually have high hopes on Gaskel as I think he will be more of a traditional stand-off. Wakey have lost a lot of quality players and replaced Tim Smith with Sammut. They are worse off from last year. We are probably the same now so it will be a tight finish for that 12th position. Franny must bring in 2-3 more players quickly with the money saved this year. Two props plus one back rower for me in case Addey is needed in the halves. My big concern here is the damage this week has done to the current directors after the “ring fencing” and “our players are going nowhere” statements. Has their credibility been badly damaged? Do they now wish they could walk away and are they hoping a new bidder will allow them to walk? bully4us
  • Score: 20

10:32am Sat 15 Feb 14

poppastratton says...

Quite unsettling however maybe not too unexpected. We've lost an unpredictable 'off the cuff' player but once any player wants to move then get rid as soon as possible.
Quite unsettling however maybe not too unexpected. We've lost an unpredictable 'off the cuff' player but once any player wants to move then get rid as soon as possible. poppastratton
  • Score: 12

10:35am Sat 15 Feb 14

THEMANOFSTEEL says...

I don't get the situation with Scott dureau at Catalans is he injured or not getting picked
Can the bulls not bring him in?
I don't get the situation with Scott dureau at Catalans is he injured or not getting picked Can the bulls not bring him in? THEMANOFSTEEL
  • Score: 0

10:38am Sat 15 Feb 14

A650 says...

Balls
Balls A650
  • Score: -5

10:45am Sat 15 Feb 14

Ray Mac says...

I believe the Bulls have got this right, great player, off the cuff, all action I love to watch him when on song but Jarrod Sammut was a high maintenance personality, that can be draining on an environment where team work is involved. Hope we can recruit soon to get the numbers back up
I believe the Bulls have got this right, great player, off the cuff, all action I love to watch him when on song but Jarrod Sammut was a high maintenance personality, that can be draining on an environment where team work is involved. Hope we can recruit soon to get the numbers back up Ray Mac
  • Score: 7

11:12am Sat 15 Feb 14

Videoref says...

poppastratton wrote:
Quite unsettling however maybe not too unexpected. We've lost an unpredictable 'off the cuff' player but once any player wants to move then get rid as soon as possible.
If you use that philosophy at present, we might struggle to field a team. Once you start worrying about not being paid and how you feed your family, the rot sets in.
Even the potential new owner from the south is concerned about how we will get through the next few weeks and months (quote). Doesn't exactly inspire confidence does it
[quote][p][bold]poppastratton[/bold] wrote: Quite unsettling however maybe not too unexpected. We've lost an unpredictable 'off the cuff' player but once any player wants to move then get rid as soon as possible.[/p][/quote]If you use that philosophy at present, we might struggle to field a team. Once you start worrying about not being paid and how you feed your family, the rot sets in. Even the potential new owner from the south is concerned about how we will get through the next few weeks and months (quote). Doesn't exactly inspire confidence does it Videoref
  • Score: 3

11:25am Sat 15 Feb 14

fedupwiththeBS says...

Can't believe the rubbish I have just read on here; yes JS was unpredictable but that is what made him exciting to watch.

He was our only strike player that we had in this squad 22 tries in 23 games is not going to be matched by any of this squad I am afraid. It was him and Keith L that saved us on more than one occasion.

RHP is yet again out of order; where is the statement thanking a player for his service to the Club? the truth is they released him from his contract because they cannot afford to pay him this month.

We are not going to be signing any new players as the Club has no money which is why we are getting spare players on loan.

Nothing has changed under this current board it has been one lie after another, empty statements to get fans to part with money for season tickets, all of which I am reliably informed has already been spent.
Can't believe the rubbish I have just read on here; yes JS was unpredictable but that is what made him exciting to watch. He was our only strike player that we had in this squad 22 tries in 23 games is not going to be matched by any of this squad I am afraid. It was him and Keith L that saved us on more than one occasion. RHP is yet again out of order; where is the statement thanking a player for his service to the Club? the truth is they released him from his contract because they cannot afford to pay him this month. We are not going to be signing any new players as the Club has no money which is why we are getting spare players on loan. Nothing has changed under this current board it has been one lie after another, empty statements to get fans to part with money for season tickets, all of which I am reliably informed has already been spent. fedupwiththeBS
  • Score: 8

11:33am Sat 15 Feb 14

otleybull says...

Apparently we've signed Brett Seymour from Cas.
Apparently we've signed Brett Seymour from Cas. otleybull
  • Score: -4

12:15pm Sat 15 Feb 14

bully4us says...

Thet clearly can’t be true as FedUp says we are not signing anyone.
FedUp, why can’t you simply discuss your thoughts and opinions without going straight in and saying everyone else is writing rubbish.
Do you not know how to communicate with people without being confrontational? That is the problem with these faceless internet sites unfortunately. I am sure you do have good ideas but you seem to want to find fault before anything else. You clearly don’t agree with what is happening but try setting out your thoughts without attacking people who think differently. People might just take you seriously then! You will never change someone's mind by putting them down, but you can by explaining clearly why they should think again.
Thet clearly can’t be true as FedUp says we are not signing anyone. FedUp, why can’t you simply discuss your thoughts and opinions without going straight in and saying everyone else is writing rubbish. Do you not know how to communicate with people without being confrontational? That is the problem with these faceless internet sites unfortunately. I am sure you do have good ideas but you seem to want to find fault before anything else. You clearly don’t agree with what is happening but try setting out your thoughts without attacking people who think differently. People might just take you seriously then! You will never change someone's mind by putting them down, but you can by explaining clearly why they should think again. bully4us
  • Score: 1

12:16pm Sat 15 Feb 14

king karl says...

otleybull wrote:
Apparently we've signed Brett Seymour from Cas.
sweet... a fruit loop reject

Sammut is a massive loss, we have no other player that will get into double figures

He was the x factor that makes the game exciting to watch... for me the worst player that could have left and will leave a massive hole
[quote][p][bold]otleybull[/bold] wrote: Apparently we've signed Brett Seymour from Cas.[/p][/quote]sweet... a fruit loop reject Sammut is a massive loss, we have no other player that will get into double figures He was the x factor that makes the game exciting to watch... for me the worst player that could have left and will leave a massive hole king karl
  • Score: 3

12:42pm Sat 15 Feb 14

nosher says...

king karl wrote:
otleybull wrote:
Apparently we've signed Brett Seymour from Cas.
sweet... a fruit loop reject

Sammut is a massive loss, we have no other player that will get into double figures

He was the x factor that makes the game exciting to watch... for me the worst player that could have left and will leave a massive hole
I agree. In a team that has struggled to create anything in attack for several years, sammutt was our only player that caused defences any worries. We are doomed
[quote][p][bold]king karl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]otleybull[/bold] wrote: Apparently we've signed Brett Seymour from Cas.[/p][/quote]sweet... a fruit loop reject Sammut is a massive loss, we have no other player that will get into double figures He was the x factor that makes the game exciting to watch... for me the worst player that could have left and will leave a massive hole[/p][/quote]I agree. In a team that has struggled to create anything in attack for several years, sammutt was our only player that caused defences any worries. We are doomed nosher
  • Score: -6

12:59pm Sat 15 Feb 14

tinytoonster says...

bully4us wrote:
Thet clearly can’t be true as FedUp says we are not signing anyone.
FedUp, why can’t you simply discuss your thoughts and opinions without going straight in and saying everyone else is writing rubbish.
Do you not know how to communicate with people without being confrontational? That is the problem with these faceless internet sites unfortunately. I am sure you do have good ideas but you seem to want to find fault before anything else. You clearly don’t agree with what is happening but try setting out your thoughts without attacking people who think differently. People might just take you seriously then! You will never change someone's mind by putting them down, but you can by explaining clearly why they should think again.
maybe fedup is angry upset fan?
with good reason by the look of it.
he's hit the nail on the head.
RHP says one thing but the truth is usually something else.
[quote][p][bold]bully4us[/bold] wrote: Thet clearly can’t be true as FedUp says we are not signing anyone. FedUp, why can’t you simply discuss your thoughts and opinions without going straight in and saying everyone else is writing rubbish. Do you not know how to communicate with people without being confrontational? That is the problem with these faceless internet sites unfortunately. I am sure you do have good ideas but you seem to want to find fault before anything else. You clearly don’t agree with what is happening but try setting out your thoughts without attacking people who think differently. People might just take you seriously then! You will never change someone's mind by putting them down, but you can by explaining clearly why they should think again.[/p][/quote]maybe fedup is angry upset fan? with good reason by the look of it. he's hit the nail on the head. RHP says one thing but the truth is usually something else. tinytoonster
  • Score: 0

1:01pm Sat 15 Feb 14

BradfordSportsFan says...

He wouldn't have got a game anyway, Gale and Gaskill are the 1st choice halves so why pay £90k a year for sammut to sit on bench. Addy is in form of his life so can fill in the halves when needed, and be leading Loose to start.

If Sammut wanted to go then why keep him, from history that would only be a disruptive influence on those who are happy to keep the faith with Bulls. Less people life Carvell (Trying to get players to strike) the better!!
He wouldn't have got a game anyway, Gale and Gaskill are the 1st choice halves so why pay £90k a year for sammut to sit on bench. Addy is in form of his life so can fill in the halves when needed, and be leading Loose to start. If Sammut wanted to go then why keep him, from history that would only be a disruptive influence on those who are happy to keep the faith with Bulls. Less people life Carvell (Trying to get players to strike) the better!! BradfordSportsFan
  • Score: 4

1:02pm Sat 15 Feb 14

billybobbull says...

Sammut leaving is a loss for 50% of each game....no doubt...but maybe a massive gain for 100% of the of pitch time..IF he is hard work off pitch...he's better GONE. We have not done well whilst he as been our 'main play maker'...so maybe we will do better without him........with him gone, others an thrive and fill the void of th 5% of game time he was asleep. This is a squad game and one pain in the derriere can ruin that. Good to the lad at Wakey. Its an excellent move for a top player to a top of the table club. NOT!
Sammut leaving is a loss for 50% of each game....no doubt...but maybe a massive gain for 100% of the of pitch time..IF he is hard work off pitch...he's better GONE. We have not done well whilst he as been our 'main play maker'...so maybe we will do better without him........with him gone, others an thrive and fill the void of th 5% of game time he was asleep. This is a squad game and one pain in the derriere can ruin that. Good to the lad at Wakey. Its an excellent move for a top player to a top of the table club. NOT! billybobbull
  • Score: 7

1:49pm Sat 15 Feb 14

spanglishbull.uk says...

Fed up. How come you seem to know everything about the club finances.Are you T.V.O.R. in disguise or are you the club accountant?Or are you neither and just come out with dross just to annoy genuine supporters.We may be skint,but I will guarantee you do not know for sure,neither does anybody else.You can guess same as the rest of us,but you do not know.You do not know me,do you know if I have put any money into the club and demanded no publicity.No you do not so until you know the facts stop talking rubbish.
Fed up. How come you seem to know everything about the club finances.Are you T.V.O.R. in disguise or are you the club accountant?Or are you neither and just come out with dross just to annoy genuine supporters.We may be skint,but I will guarantee you do not know for sure,neither does anybody else.You can guess same as the rest of us,but you do not know.You do not know me,do you know if I have put any money into the club and demanded no publicity.No you do not so until you know the facts stop talking rubbish. spanglishbull.uk
  • Score: 6

1:59pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

spanglishbull.uk wrote:
Fed up. How come you seem to know everything about the club finances.Are you T.V.O.R. in disguise or are you the club accountant?Or are you neither and just come out with dross just to annoy genuine supporters.We may be skint,but I will guarantee you do not know for sure,neither does anybody else.You can guess same as the rest of us,but you do not know.You do not know me,do you know if I have put any money into the club and demanded no publicity.No you do not so until you know the facts stop talking rubbish.
You keep your head in the sand believe all you are told and even when it's proven totally wrong do what others do and put your own spin on it.

Sammut was injured acording the Bulls as recently as yesterday. Then suddenly he is sold and fit to start against the Bulls on Thursday.
[quote][p][bold]spanglishbull.uk[/bold] wrote: Fed up. How come you seem to know everything about the club finances.Are you T.V.O.R. in disguise or are you the club accountant?Or are you neither and just come out with dross just to annoy genuine supporters.We may be skint,but I will guarantee you do not know for sure,neither does anybody else.You can guess same as the rest of us,but you do not know.You do not know me,do you know if I have put any money into the club and demanded no publicity.No you do not so until you know the facts stop talking rubbish.[/p][/quote]You keep your head in the sand believe all you are told and even when it's proven totally wrong do what others do and put your own spin on it. Sammut was injured acording the Bulls as recently as yesterday. Then suddenly he is sold and fit to start against the Bulls on Thursday. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 0

2:03pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Reading Bullette says...

The club is better off without him. Absolute nightmare. Believe me the players are happy he's gone. Just hope that Cummins can get some god players in on loan.
The club is better off without him. Absolute nightmare. Believe me the players are happy he's gone. Just hope that Cummins can get some god players in on loan. Reading Bullette
  • Score: 1

2:32pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Arhmen Noleg says...

Reading Bullette wrote:
The club is better off without him. Absolute nightmare. Believe me the players are happy he's gone. Just hope that Cummins can get some god players in on loan.
That would be good.If they can play or god we might have a chance.

Lots seem to agree he was a bit of a loose cannon whose creativity was great but who switched off to the important stuff.
But Robbie is being disingenuous in not offering thanks for him sticking around through the dreadfull events of the past 2 years.
Now theres gratitude.

And a fans favourite.So stop putting your foot in it Robbie
[quote][p][bold]Reading Bullette[/bold] wrote: The club is better off without him. Absolute nightmare. Believe me the players are happy he's gone. Just hope that Cummins can get some god players in on loan.[/p][/quote]That would be good.If they can play or god we might have a chance. Lots seem to agree he was a bit of a loose cannon whose creativity was great but who switched off to the important stuff. But Robbie is being disingenuous in not offering thanks for him sticking around through the dreadfull events of the past 2 years. Now theres gratitude. And a fans favourite.So stop putting your foot in it Robbie Arhmen Noleg
  • Score: 2

2:39pm Sat 15 Feb 14

spanglishbull.uk says...

T.V,O.R.
I agree that it was said Sammut was injured.I have not denied that.What I have said is that neither you,Fed up or myself have access to the clubs Bank Accounts so you are surmising that you know the Financial situation when you do not.You can guess all you want but that is just what you are doing,Guessing.
T.V,O.R. I agree that it was said Sammut was injured.I have not denied that.What I have said is that neither you,Fed up or myself have access to the clubs Bank Accounts so you are surmising that you know the Financial situation when you do not.You can guess all you want but that is just what you are doing,Guessing. spanglishbull.uk
  • Score: 2

3:05pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

spanglishbull.uk wrote:
T.V,O.R.
I agree that it was said Sammut was injured.I have not denied that.What I have said is that neither you,Fed up or myself have access to the clubs Bank Accounts so you are surmising that you know the Financial situation when you do not.You can guess all you want but that is just what you are doing,Guessing.
Based on the fact RFL have given the bulls money upfront, several staff have been laid off, HMRC placed a winding up order against them and the club has been in admin it would be idiotic to suggest anything but finances being not good.
[quote][p][bold]spanglishbull.uk[/bold] wrote: T.V,O.R. I agree that it was said Sammut was injured.I have not denied that.What I have said is that neither you,Fed up or myself have access to the clubs Bank Accounts so you are surmising that you know the Financial situation when you do not.You can guess all you want but that is just what you are doing,Guessing.[/p][/quote]Based on the fact RFL have given the bulls money upfront, several staff have been laid off, HMRC placed a winding up order against them and the club has been in admin it would be idiotic to suggest anything but finances being not good. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 1

3:24pm Sat 15 Feb 14

axelf1963 says...

Question I have is HAS VIKING LEFT THE CLUB TOO ?
Is he wanting the viking song to return ?

We're in the money,
We've got no players,
What a joke of a club we really are.

We're in the money,
We've no directors,
What a joke of a club we really are.

We're in the money ,
Weve just lost Carvell,
What a joke of a club we really are.

We're in the money,
We've now lost Sammut,
What a joke of a club we really are.

We're in the money,
There's more to follow,
What a joke of a club we really are.

Axel xx
Question I have is HAS VIKING LEFT THE CLUB TOO ? Is he wanting the viking song to return ? We're in the money, We've got no players, What a joke of a club we really are. We're in the money, We've no directors, What a joke of a club we really are. We're in the money , Weve just lost Carvell, What a joke of a club we really are. We're in the money, We've now lost Sammut, What a joke of a club we really are. We're in the money, There's more to follow, What a joke of a club we really are. Axel xx axelf1963
  • Score: -2

3:42pm Sat 15 Feb 14

axlef1963 says...

axelf1963 wrote:
Question I have is HAS VIKING LEFT THE CLUB TOO ?
Is he wanting the viking song to return ?

We're in the money,
We've got no players,
What a joke of a club we really are.

We're in the money,
We've no directors,
What a joke of a club we really are.

We're in the money ,
Weve just lost Carvell,
What a joke of a club we really are.

We're in the money,
We've now lost Sammut,
What a joke of a club we really are.

We're in the money,
There's more to follow,
What a joke of a club we really are.

Axel xx
What a pilchard you are,you cant even think of you own tag without copying.If a player wants to leave good riddance,we only want players who are going to fight for the cause,as for js he went missing far too often last season and that's something we cant afford this season.For all the bulls fans its 23 hrs and 20 mins to the start of the season so get your arses up to odsal and support THE MIGHTY BULLS COYB
[quote][p][bold]axelf1963[/bold] wrote: Question I have is HAS VIKING LEFT THE CLUB TOO ? Is he wanting the viking song to return ? We're in the money, We've got no players, What a joke of a club we really are. We're in the money, We've no directors, What a joke of a club we really are. We're in the money , Weve just lost Carvell, What a joke of a club we really are. We're in the money, We've now lost Sammut, What a joke of a club we really are. We're in the money, There's more to follow, What a joke of a club we really are. Axel xx[/p][/quote]What a pilchard you are,you cant even think of you own tag without copying.If a player wants to leave good riddance,we only want players who are going to fight for the cause,as for js he went missing far too often last season and that's something we cant afford this season.For all the bulls fans its 23 hrs and 20 mins to the start of the season so get your arses up to odsal and support THE MIGHTY BULLS COYB axlef1963
  • Score: 6

3:42pm Sat 15 Feb 14

axlef1963 says...

axelf1963 wrote:
Question I have is HAS VIKING LEFT THE CLUB TOO ?
Is he wanting the viking song to return ?

We're in the money,
We've got no players,
What a joke of a club we really are.

We're in the money,
We've no directors,
What a joke of a club we really are.

We're in the money ,
Weve just lost Carvell,
What a joke of a club we really are.

We're in the money,
We've now lost Sammut,
What a joke of a club we really are.

We're in the money,
There's more to follow,
What a joke of a club we really are.

Axel xx
What a pilchard you are,you cant even think of you own tag without copying.If a player wants to leave good riddance,we only want players who are going to fight for the cause,as for js he went missing far too often last season and that's something we cant afford this season.For all the bulls fans its 23 hrs and 20 mins to the start of the season so get your arses up to odsal and support THE MIGHTY BULLS COYB
[quote][p][bold]axelf1963[/bold] wrote: Question I have is HAS VIKING LEFT THE CLUB TOO ? Is he wanting the viking song to return ? We're in the money, We've got no players, What a joke of a club we really are. We're in the money, We've no directors, What a joke of a club we really are. We're in the money , Weve just lost Carvell, What a joke of a club we really are. We're in the money, We've now lost Sammut, What a joke of a club we really are. We're in the money, There's more to follow, What a joke of a club we really are. Axel xx[/p][/quote]What a pilchard you are,you cant even think of you own tag without copying.If a player wants to leave good riddance,we only want players who are going to fight for the cause,as for js he went missing far too often last season and that's something we cant afford this season.For all the bulls fans its 23 hrs and 20 mins to the start of the season so get your arses up to odsal and support THE MIGHTY BULLS COYB axlef1963
  • Score: -1

3:55pm Sat 15 Feb 14

spanglishbull.uk says...

T.V.O.R.
You completely miss the point.I have not said the finances are neither good nor bad.What I am saying is that neither you Fed up or myself have access to the Clubs Bank Accounts so you do not know.You are guessing,you may be right,you may be wrong .You are just coming up with old news.You are in the same position as I am.in Your opinion the club is in financial straits.Have you seen the Club Bank Accounts to back up your claim? The answer is NO,neither have I or Fed up.I have my own opinion but do not try to force it on to other people like you do.
T.V.O.R. You completely miss the point.I have not said the finances are neither good nor bad.What I am saying is that neither you Fed up or myself have access to the Clubs Bank Accounts so you do not know.You are guessing,you may be right,you may be wrong .You are just coming up with old news.You are in the same position as I am.in Your opinion the club is in financial straits.Have you seen the Club Bank Accounts to back up your claim? The answer is NO,neither have I or Fed up.I have my own opinion but do not try to force it on to other people like you do. spanglishbull.uk
  • Score: -3

4:14pm Sat 15 Feb 14

fedupwiththeBS says...

spanglishbull.uk wrote:
Fed up. How come you seem to know everything about the club finances.Are you T.V.O.R. in disguise or are you the club accountant?Or are you neither and just come out with dross just to annoy genuine supporters.We may be skint,but I will guarantee you do not know for sure,neither does anybody else.You can guess same as the rest of us,but you do not know.You do not know me,do you know if I have put any money into the club and demanded no publicity.No you do not so until you know the facts stop talking rubbish.
You do not know me either, maybe I have had access to the clubs figures or maybe as TVOR says I have not had my head buried in the sand and have watch the Club I have supported for years be systematically destroyed in the last 18 months.

If you have put money into the Club then your actions are to be applauded however wasted they have turned out to be.

You carry on choosing to believe the rubbish that comes out of the Club whilst I shall chose to trust what I see and hear happening around the Club.
[quote][p][bold]spanglishbull.uk[/bold] wrote: Fed up. How come you seem to know everything about the club finances.Are you T.V.O.R. in disguise or are you the club accountant?Or are you neither and just come out with dross just to annoy genuine supporters.We may be skint,but I will guarantee you do not know for sure,neither does anybody else.You can guess same as the rest of us,but you do not know.You do not know me,do you know if I have put any money into the club and demanded no publicity.No you do not so until you know the facts stop talking rubbish.[/p][/quote]You do not know me either, maybe I have had access to the clubs figures or maybe as TVOR says I have not had my head buried in the sand and have watch the Club I have supported for years be systematically destroyed in the last 18 months. If you have put money into the Club then your actions are to be applauded however wasted they have turned out to be. You carry on choosing to believe the rubbish that comes out of the Club whilst I shall chose to trust what I see and hear happening around the Club. fedupwiththeBS
  • Score: 2

4:29pm Sat 15 Feb 14

spanglishbull.uk says...

Fed Up.
I to have been supporting ,sponsoring and backing the Northern,Bulls since 1950.I am now 71 years old so I to think I know what I am talking about.Tell me where I have said I believed everything that was coming out of the club.Never.As i have stated I have been supporting since 1950 so obviously i have seen and heard it before.What I have said that is that,in your opinion the financial state of the club is in dire straits,you may or may not be correct but that is what it is,your opinion.You are entitled to your opinion but so is everybody else and just because they differ from yours does not make them idiots.IN MY OPINION Sammut is wrong when he says Bulls and Wildcats will not be fighting relegation,IN MY OPINION they will both be fighting it but that is just my opinion not everyones.By all means criticise,but if you are let us hear some of your CONSTRUCTIVE criticism for a change.Let us know how you would solve the problem at Odsal.
Fed Up. I to have been supporting ,sponsoring and backing the Northern,Bulls since 1950.I am now 71 years old so I to think I know what I am talking about.Tell me where I have said I believed everything that was coming out of the club.Never.As i have stated I have been supporting since 1950 so obviously i have seen and heard it before.What I have said that is that,in your opinion the financial state of the club is in dire straits,you may or may not be correct but that is what it is,your opinion.You are entitled to your opinion but so is everybody else and just because they differ from yours does not make them idiots.IN MY OPINION Sammut is wrong when he says Bulls and Wildcats will not be fighting relegation,IN MY OPINION they will both be fighting it but that is just my opinion not everyones.By all means criticise,but if you are let us hear some of your CONSTRUCTIVE criticism for a change.Let us know how you would solve the problem at Odsal. spanglishbull.uk
  • Score: 5

4:32pm Sat 15 Feb 14

axelf1963 says...

axlef1963 wrote:
axelf1963 wrote:
Question I have is HAS VIKING LEFT THE CLUB TOO ?
Is he wanting the viking song to return ?

We're in the money,
We've got no players,
What a joke of a club we really are.

We're in the money,
We've no directors,
What a joke of a club we really are.

We're in the money ,
Weve just lost Carvell,
What a joke of a club we really are.

We're in the money,
We've now lost Sammut,
What a joke of a club we really are.

We're in the money,
There's more to follow,
What a joke of a club we really are.

Axel xx
What a pilchard you are,you cant even think of you own tag without copying.If a player wants to leave good riddance,we only want players who are going to fight for the cause,as for js he went missing far too often last season and that's something we cant afford this season.For all the bulls fans its 23 hrs and 20 mins to the start of the season so get your arses up to odsal and support THE MIGHTY BULLS COYB
If tag means username mine is different to yours AND I don't put posts on twice.
Now who is the pilchard ?

Viking Viking give us a song Viking give us a song.
[quote][p][bold]axlef1963[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]axelf1963[/bold] wrote: Question I have is HAS VIKING LEFT THE CLUB TOO ? Is he wanting the viking song to return ? We're in the money, We've got no players, What a joke of a club we really are. We're in the money, We've no directors, What a joke of a club we really are. We're in the money , Weve just lost Carvell, What a joke of a club we really are. We're in the money, We've now lost Sammut, What a joke of a club we really are. We're in the money, There's more to follow, What a joke of a club we really are. Axel xx[/p][/quote]What a pilchard you are,you cant even think of you own tag without copying.If a player wants to leave good riddance,we only want players who are going to fight for the cause,as for js he went missing far too often last season and that's something we cant afford this season.For all the bulls fans its 23 hrs and 20 mins to the start of the season so get your arses up to odsal and support THE MIGHTY BULLS COYB[/p][/quote]If tag means username mine is different to yours AND I don't put posts on twice. Now who is the pilchard ? Viking Viking give us a song Viking give us a song. axelf1963
  • Score: 0

4:34pm Sat 15 Feb 14

axelf1963 says...

spanglishbull.uk wrote:
Fed Up.
I to have been supporting ,sponsoring and backing the Northern,Bulls since 1950.I am now 71 years old so I to think I know what I am talking about.Tell me where I have said I believed everything that was coming out of the club.Never.As i have stated I have been supporting since 1950 so obviously i have seen and heard it before.What I have said that is that,in your opinion the financial state of the club is in dire straits,you may or may not be correct but that is what it is,your opinion.You are entitled to your opinion but so is everybody else and just because they differ from yours does not make them idiots.IN MY OPINION Sammut is wrong when he says Bulls and Wildcats will not be fighting relegation,IN MY OPINION they will both be fighting it but that is just my opinion not everyones.By all means criticise,but if you are let us hear some of your CONSTRUCTIVE criticism for a change.Let us know how you would solve the problem at Odsal.
Hence your views at 71 are ignored, The game has MOVED ON , Like Viking YOU should too.
[quote][p][bold]spanglishbull.uk[/bold] wrote: Fed Up. I to have been supporting ,sponsoring and backing the Northern,Bulls since 1950.I am now 71 years old so I to think I know what I am talking about.Tell me where I have said I believed everything that was coming out of the club.Never.As i have stated I have been supporting since 1950 so obviously i have seen and heard it before.What I have said that is that,in your opinion the financial state of the club is in dire straits,you may or may not be correct but that is what it is,your opinion.You are entitled to your opinion but so is everybody else and just because they differ from yours does not make them idiots.IN MY OPINION Sammut is wrong when he says Bulls and Wildcats will not be fighting relegation,IN MY OPINION they will both be fighting it but that is just my opinion not everyones.By all means criticise,but if you are let us hear some of your CONSTRUCTIVE criticism for a change.Let us know how you would solve the problem at Odsal.[/p][/quote]Hence your views at 71 are ignored, The game has MOVED ON , Like Viking YOU should too. axelf1963
  • Score: -9

5:02pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Pablo says...

The good news about Sammut leaving is that it's saved us some cash but the flip side is that our already fragile squad is weakened further. A maverick maybe, but always a threat at providing a spark.

If Robbie Paul hasn't the courtesy to thank him for his service, then I will. It's now customary to criticise players once they leave, but I don't buy into that. The player exodus cannot be a coincidence.

I just hope Lamb hasn't read Marwan Koukash's interview in todays Sun, where he advises anyone interested in buying clubs, not to.
The good news about Sammut leaving is that it's saved us some cash but the flip side is that our already fragile squad is weakened further. A maverick maybe, but always a threat at providing a spark. If Robbie Paul hasn't the courtesy to thank him for his service, then I will. It's now customary to criticise players once they leave, but I don't buy into that. The player exodus cannot be a coincidence. I just hope Lamb hasn't read Marwan Koukash's interview in todays Sun, where he advises anyone interested in buying clubs, not to. Pablo
  • Score: 5

6:10pm Sat 15 Feb 14

spanglishbull.uk says...

What are you saying Axelf.You do not want any senior citizens watching sport.or for that matter having an opinion.Says it all really about you.Thick as two short planks.
What are you saying Axelf.You do not want any senior citizens watching sport.or for that matter having an opinion.Says it all really about you.Thick as two short planks. spanglishbull.uk
  • Score: 2

6:24pm Sat 15 Feb 14

portugalbull says...

Only thing I wish to say is why didn't we insist he could not play on Thursday as it was plainly a political injury. We will miss his creativity but not his defence. Although we still have problems off the pitch the team looks stronger than last year and better than the Wildcats.
Only thing I wish to say is why didn't we insist he could not play on Thursday as it was plainly a political injury. We will miss his creativity but not his defence. Although we still have problems off the pitch the team looks stronger than last year and better than the Wildcats. portugalbull
  • Score: 4

6:53pm Sat 15 Feb 14

billybobbull says...

axelf1963 wrote:
spanglishbull.uk wrote:
Fed Up.
I to have been supporting ,sponsoring and backing the Northern,Bulls since 1950.I am now 71 years old so I to think I know what I am talking about.Tell me where I have said I believed everything that was coming out of the club.Never.As i have stated I have been supporting since 1950 so obviously i have seen and heard it before.What I have said that is that,in your opinion the financial state of the club is in dire straits,you may or may not be correct but that is what it is,your opinion.You are entitled to your opinion but so is everybody else and just because they differ from yours does not make them idiots.IN MY OPINION Sammut is wrong when he says Bulls and Wildcats will not be fighting relegation,IN MY OPINION they will both be fighting it but that is just my opinion not everyones.By all means criticise,but if you are let us hear some of your CONSTRUCTIVE criticism for a change.Let us know how you would solve the problem at Odsal.
Hence your views at 71 are ignored, The game has MOVED ON , Like Viking YOU should too.
Yup...thank you for your wise input. The BOY who criticized after your post, clearly know nowt about RL and even less about the world. The game ' has not 'moved on', as we are in the same place as we were in 64 (the year before I was born.) The data and stats will show that clubs with less finance generally do less well (except I must say Fox's Dad Army team of 79,80,81.)
The data ( modern day phenomenon) will tell the RL people who know, that we have a near second rate Super League squad that has big heart and COULD potentially do well, but given a few setbacks and injuries might struggle.
Your 71 year old opinion and valuable experience is VERY welcome and is probably quite accurate, given the current situation. Keep it coming.
To the less experienced players, fans and arm chair coaches on here, please work out what you actually know and what we have learned, analysed, and forgotten, (about 60 seasons of Rugby League), before you type. We have probably decided to forget..... more than you know.
[quote][p][bold]axelf1963[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spanglishbull.uk[/bold] wrote: Fed Up. I to have been supporting ,sponsoring and backing the Northern,Bulls since 1950.I am now 71 years old so I to think I know what I am talking about.Tell me where I have said I believed everything that was coming out of the club.Never.As i have stated I have been supporting since 1950 so obviously i have seen and heard it before.What I have said that is that,in your opinion the financial state of the club is in dire straits,you may or may not be correct but that is what it is,your opinion.You are entitled to your opinion but so is everybody else and just because they differ from yours does not make them idiots.IN MY OPINION Sammut is wrong when he says Bulls and Wildcats will not be fighting relegation,IN MY OPINION they will both be fighting it but that is just my opinion not everyones.By all means criticise,but if you are let us hear some of your CONSTRUCTIVE criticism for a change.Let us know how you would solve the problem at Odsal.[/p][/quote]Hence your views at 71 are ignored, The game has MOVED ON , Like Viking YOU should too.[/p][/quote]Yup...thank you for your wise input. The BOY who criticized after your post, clearly know nowt about RL and even less about the world. The game ' has not 'moved on', as we are in the same place as we were in 64 (the year before I was born.) The data and stats will show that clubs with less finance generally do less well (except I must say Fox's Dad Army team of 79,80,81.) The data ( modern day phenomenon) will tell the RL people who know, that we have a near second rate Super League squad that has big heart and COULD potentially do well, but given a few setbacks and injuries might struggle. Your 71 year old opinion and valuable experience is VERY welcome and is probably quite accurate, given the current situation. Keep it coming. To the less experienced players, fans and arm chair coaches on here, please work out what you actually know and what we have learned, analysed, and forgotten, (about 60 seasons of Rugby League), before you type. We have probably decided to forget..... more than you know. billybobbull
  • Score: 1

6:54pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Bring Cordle back......... says...

For me Samutt is a fantastic impact player so will be missed as a game changer. My issue is I get the feeling Samutt saw himself as a starting half back and that requires a whole different set of qualities. So if he didn't see his role sat on the bench each week it was the correct decision all round. It means we have weakend the squad for now but are moving towards operating within our means with a committed team of players. It won't be pretty but I'm sure it will be exciting fighting it out to avoid those bottom spots and maybe creating the odd upset along the way!!! COYB
For me Samutt is a fantastic impact player so will be missed as a game changer. My issue is I get the feeling Samutt saw himself as a starting half back and that requires a whole different set of qualities. So if he didn't see his role sat on the bench each week it was the correct decision all round. It means we have weakend the squad for now but are moving towards operating within our means with a committed team of players. It won't be pretty but I'm sure it will be exciting fighting it out to avoid those bottom spots and maybe creating the odd upset along the way!!! COYB Bring Cordle back.........
  • Score: 6

9:02pm Sat 15 Feb 14

bradfordbronco says...

when you want people to pay on the day there's very few players that are worth watching on their own. Sammut was one of them. Would like to know who expects will get relegated though. Someone has to, if not Wakefield or Bradford then who other London.

Can't we use the transfer money to pay off some creditors and avoid points deduction?
when you want people to pay on the day there's very few players that are worth watching on their own. Sammut was one of them. Would like to know who expects will get relegated though. Someone has to, if not Wakefield or Bradford then who other London. Can't we use the transfer money to pay off some creditors and avoid points deduction? bradfordbronco
  • Score: 1

8:24am Sun 16 Feb 14

bradfordbronco says...

Perhaps Sammut is some kind of jinx. Crusaders starting having money problems after he joined. Same with Bulls. Maybe Wakefield should look out!

One other problem, Who's gonna fail to find touch now Sammut has gone?
Perhaps Sammut is some kind of jinx. Crusaders starting having money problems after he joined. Same with Bulls. Maybe Wakefield should look out! One other problem, Who's gonna fail to find touch now Sammut has gone? bradfordbronco
  • Score: 6

11:54am Sun 16 Feb 14

axelf1963 says...

spanglishbull.uk wrote:
What are you saying Axelf.You do not want any senior citizens watching sport.or for that matter having an opinion.Says it all really about you.Thick as two short planks.
You can watch sport along with Viking in the retirement home yes but leave the why and wherefores for people living in this generation.
When I were a lad rugby was tougher etc.......... load of tripe, them beer swilling monsters could not live 5 mins at todays pace.
[quote][p][bold]spanglishbull.uk[/bold] wrote: What are you saying Axelf.You do not want any senior citizens watching sport.or for that matter having an opinion.Says it all really about you.Thick as two short planks.[/p][/quote]You can watch sport along with Viking in the retirement home yes but leave the why and wherefores for people living in this generation. When I were a lad rugby was tougher etc.......... load of tripe, them beer swilling monsters could not live 5 mins at todays pace. axelf1963
  • Score: 0

12:04pm Mon 17 Feb 14

StevieLad says...

spanglishbull.uk wrote:
Fed Up.
I to have been supporting ,sponsoring and backing the Northern,Bulls since 1950.I am now 71 years old so I to think I know what I am talking about.Tell me where I have said I believed everything that was coming out of the club.Never.As i have stated I have been supporting since 1950 so obviously i have seen and heard it before.What I have said that is that,in your opinion the financial state of the club is in dire straits,you may or may not be correct but that is what it is,your opinion.You are entitled to your opinion but so is everybody else and just because they differ from yours does not make them idiots.IN MY OPINION Sammut is wrong when he says Bulls and Wildcats will not be fighting relegation,IN MY OPINION they will both be fighting it but that is just my opinion not everyones.By all means criticise,but if you are let us hear some of your CONSTRUCTIVE criticism for a change.Let us know how you would solve the problem at Odsal.
You can make some pretty good conclusions about the financial state of the club as TVOR said. Based on everything that's been happening, to try and take positives is very optimistic.

There are very few people with access to those fabled bank statements. I haven't looked at detailed UK Treasury financial statements but I wouldn't try to argue the positives there either.

It just sounds like you're fed up with the negativity in comments sections, well welcome to the internet
[quote][p][bold]spanglishbull.uk[/bold] wrote: Fed Up. I to have been supporting ,sponsoring and backing the Northern,Bulls since 1950.I am now 71 years old so I to think I know what I am talking about.Tell me where I have said I believed everything that was coming out of the club.Never.As i have stated I have been supporting since 1950 so obviously i have seen and heard it before.What I have said that is that,in your opinion the financial state of the club is in dire straits,you may or may not be correct but that is what it is,your opinion.You are entitled to your opinion but so is everybody else and just because they differ from yours does not make them idiots.IN MY OPINION Sammut is wrong when he says Bulls and Wildcats will not be fighting relegation,IN MY OPINION they will both be fighting it but that is just my opinion not everyones.By all means criticise,but if you are let us hear some of your CONSTRUCTIVE criticism for a change.Let us know how you would solve the problem at Odsal.[/p][/quote]You can make some pretty good conclusions about the financial state of the club as TVOR said. Based on everything that's been happening, to try and take positives is very optimistic. There are very few people with access to those fabled bank statements. I haven't looked at detailed UK Treasury financial statements but I wouldn't try to argue the positives there either. It just sounds like you're fed up with the negativity in comments sections, well welcome to the internet StevieLad
  • Score: 1

12:36pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Loyalbull1981 says...

Jarrod was our top try scorer last year if im right? so anyone who says he wont be missed is kidding themselves. However one man will never make a team. Although by looks of team yesterday maybe he did! We looked sooo unfit and out of steam buy 60mins. The cas props caught up with Purts on his clean break so says it all really. Thing that worries me most is this who patomine of vilifying every player that leaves now, it seemed to start back when stu fielden left and now anyone who leaves is called a traitor , its getting daft, if I was offered stability and guaranteed first team spot I would have gone to. good luck JS thanks for your service. Now lets concentrate on the 'team' we have and get behind the lads.
Jarrod was our top try scorer last year if im right? so anyone who says he wont be missed is kidding themselves. However one man will never make a team. Although by looks of team yesterday maybe he did! We looked sooo unfit and out of steam buy 60mins. The cas props caught up with Purts on his clean break so says it all really. Thing that worries me most is this who patomine of vilifying every player that leaves now, it seemed to start back when stu fielden left and now anyone who leaves is called a traitor , its getting daft, if I was offered stability and guaranteed first team spot I would have gone to. good luck JS thanks for your service. Now lets concentrate on the 'team' we have and get behind the lads. Loyalbull1981
  • Score: -1

3:18pm Mon 17 Feb 14

spanglishbull.uk says...

Stevie Lad,
Fed up of negativity,absolutel
y not,as I have said everybody is entitled to their opinion.What I did say is that we are all just guessing.In my opinion.and I hope I am completely wrong.the Bulls are certainly going to be in a fight to stay in Super League,whether it be on the field or off.Hopefully somebody can come up with a solution to solve the situation.What I do get fed up of reading is constant criticism by certain posters who never ever offer constructive criticism.I do not know the answers,that is why I do not criticise people who are doing their best to resolve the situation.
Stevie Lad, Fed up of negativity,absolutel y not,as I have said everybody is entitled to their opinion.What I did say is that we are all just guessing.In my opinion.and I hope I am completely wrong.the Bulls are certainly going to be in a fight to stay in Super League,whether it be on the field or off.Hopefully somebody can come up with a solution to solve the situation.What I do get fed up of reading is constant criticism by certain posters who never ever offer constructive criticism.I do not know the answers,that is why I do not criticise people who are doing their best to resolve the situation. spanglishbull.uk
  • Score: 1

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