Bantams boss will be handed ample war chest for next season’s campaign, reveals Julian Rhodes

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: A positive outcome in the Mark Stewart compensation saga would see more money being made available to Phil Parkinson next season A positive outcome in the Mark Stewart compensation saga would see more money being made available to Phil Parkinson next season

City have promised to push the boat out again with next year’s player budget – but not to the same level as this season.

Julian Rhodes revealed that boss Phil Parkinson will be handed “very, very competitive” resources for the extensive squad revamp that is expected in the summer.

The club are willing to go “£500,000-£600,000” over budget in the same way they did before last term’s promotion campaign.

Next season’s sums will be further swelled if they win the appeal against the Mark Stewart compensation demand.

City are due to receive the adjudication from the Court of Arbitration for Sport at the end of the week.

The £250,000 earmarked to pay Falkirk and the legal fees will be added to Parkinson’s pot if City’s argument has proved successful.

Joint-chairman Rhodes said: “Whatever the outcome is will have direct input into next year’s budget.

“Even if we lose the case against Falkirk, we’ll at the very least break even. Obviously if we don’t, that means we’ll be somewhere between £200,000 and £250,000 better off and that will go into next season’s budget.

“We can’t afford to set another budget at £1m over what we can really afford. We could do that this year because we always knew we had Nahki Wells to sell.

“That was the back-up plan but we’d probably always have had to do it because of the state of Nahki’s contract. You’ve got to run the business properly and cash in assets when you can.

“Next year, we’ll probably have a similar gamble to the extent we did in the 2012-13 season.

“Maybe we’ll go £500-£600,000 over budget. It still means we’ll have a very, very competitive budget in League One.”

Parkinson reworked his dressing room in the January transfer window. Aaron Mclean replaced Wells and Kyle Bennett, Chris Atkinson and Adam Reach arrived on loan.

Ricky Ravenhill, Alan Connell and Luke Oliver also left Valley Parade as the turnover began after the City boss had stayed loyal with the promotion team up to the turn of the year.

Matty Dolan will join from Middlesbrough by the weekend after the Bantams ran out of time trying to tie up a permanent deal on deadline day.

With Mclean, James Hanson and Andrew Davies the only regular senior players currently still in contract after this season, there is likely to be plenty of change to come.

Rhodes added: “There are a lot of contracts up, so we can wheel and deal and learn from our first year in League One. That’s what it’s all about.

“There will be players we want to keep for next season and those talks will be ongoing as we try and perform on the pitch. We’re in for a busy few months.

“What we’ll try and do is replicate what we did in 2012-13. That summer we had a great recruitment drive and look at the success we had.

“But we’ve got a big job on our hands this season. We need to make sure we’re still a League One club.

“Once you’ve gone up a level, I think it takes ten games for the opposition to suss out your strengths and weaknesses. We capitalised on those first ten games very well with 21 points.

“Thank goodness we did because that is the buffer zone we have now between us and the bottom.

“I don’t want people to get all doom and gloom. We’ve had a lot of draws but we need to pick up some wins.

“The main thing is that we secure our status so we can have another go.”

* Apprentices Sam Wright and Nathan Curtis scored for City’s reserves as they drew 2-2 in a private friendly against Leeds yesterday. Noel Hunt scored one of the replies.

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7:30am Wed 5 Feb 14

notpoliticallycorrect says...

So the supporters of the £200 season tickets get their wish. Surely a £30-£50 rise would have helped with the player budget?

The thing is, nobody really knows how many will renew? If we don't start winning soon I recon we could drop the 2,000 season ticket holders that the cheap prices were kept on to attract.

That would then look folly, I certainly don't want the club to get into financial trouble again and would rather see us cover the deficit through higher prices and better product.

At the end if the day it's either your club or it's not and to be fair, the moaners who complain about paying £10 a game over a season quickly found a couple of hundred quid for a day out or two at Wembley.
So the supporters of the £200 season tickets get their wish. Surely a £30-£50 rise would have helped with the player budget? The thing is, nobody really knows how many will renew? If we don't start winning soon I recon we could drop the 2,000 season ticket holders that the cheap prices were kept on to attract. That would then look folly, I certainly don't want the club to get into financial trouble again and would rather see us cover the deficit through higher prices and better product. At the end if the day it's either your club or it's not and to be fair, the moaners who complain about paying £10 a game over a season quickly found a couple of hundred quid for a day out or two at Wembley. notpoliticallycorrect
  • Score: 10

7:51am Wed 5 Feb 14

Cityman23 says...

I might be in a minority but I don't want City to go 'over budget' in their spending. I believe they should be sticking within budget.

Too many teams STILL haven't learnt the lesson and having been close to nearly going out of existance twice City should have learnt theirs!!

Up and down the country clubs are STILL getting into financial difficulties-Leeds, Rangers..and many have ALREADY nearly gone bust!! It's crazy.

I say, live withn your means City. Bring on young talent rather than buying players. Don't pay wages you can't afford. Charge a fair price for season tickets and match day admission.

Yes, promotion would be great but most of all the fans want their team in existence!!
I might be in a minority but I don't want City to go 'over budget' in their spending. I believe they should be sticking within budget. Too many teams STILL haven't learnt the lesson and having been close to nearly going out of existance twice City should have learnt theirs!! Up and down the country clubs are STILL getting into financial difficulties-Leeds, Rangers..and many have ALREADY nearly gone bust!! It's crazy. I say, live withn your means City. Bring on young talent rather than buying players. Don't pay wages you can't afford. Charge a fair price for season tickets and match day admission. Yes, promotion would be great but most of all the fans want their team in existence!! Cityman23
  • Score: 27

7:56am Wed 5 Feb 14

tinytoonster says...

“We can’t afford to set another budget at £1m over what we can really afford. We could do that this year because we always knew we had Nahki Wells to sell.
so they knew they were selling him.
kind of contradicts lawn saying they wanted him to stay and he forced them to sell!
obvious anyway because wells kept his mouth shut when lawn slagged him off.
maybe those who called him will apologise, doubtful.
“We can’t afford to set another budget at £1m over what we can really afford. We could do that this year because we always knew we had Nahki Wells to sell. so they knew they were selling him. kind of contradicts lawn saying they wanted him to stay and he forced them to sell! obvious anyway because wells kept his mouth shut when lawn slagged him off. maybe those who called him will apologise, doubtful. tinytoonster
  • Score: -22

7:58am Wed 5 Feb 14

tinytoonster says...

Cityman23 wrote:
I might be in a minority but I don't want City to go 'over budget' in their spending. I believe they should be sticking within budget.

Too many teams STILL haven't learnt the lesson and having been close to nearly going out of existance twice City should have learnt theirs!!

Up and down the country clubs are STILL getting into financial difficulties-Leeds, Rangers..and many have ALREADY nearly gone bust!! It's crazy.

I say, live withn your means City. Bring on young talent rather than buying players. Don't pay wages you can't afford. Charge a fair price for season tickets and match day admission.

Yes, promotion would be great but most of all the fans want their team in existence!!
correct.
budget like you would at home.
amazing how successful businessmen go crazy when in football clubs!!
[quote][p][bold]Cityman23[/bold] wrote: I might be in a minority but I don't want City to go 'over budget' in their spending. I believe they should be sticking within budget. Too many teams STILL haven't learnt the lesson and having been close to nearly going out of existance twice City should have learnt theirs!! Up and down the country clubs are STILL getting into financial difficulties-Leeds, Rangers..and many have ALREADY nearly gone bust!! It's crazy. I say, live withn your means City. Bring on young talent rather than buying players. Don't pay wages you can't afford. Charge a fair price for season tickets and match day admission. Yes, promotion would be great but most of all the fans want their team in existence!![/p][/quote]correct. budget like you would at home. amazing how successful businessmen go crazy when in football clubs!! tinytoonster
  • Score: -10

8:11am Wed 5 Feb 14

notpoliticallycorrect says...

"Rhodes added: “There are a lot of contracts up, so we can wheel and deal and learn from our first year in League One. That’s what it’s all about."

I think the thing we will change will be a shift away from having a load of expensive older players (Doyle, Jones, McArdle, Thompson, Gray to name a few that are out of contract) to a much younger and cheaper side.

We need to let Yeats go, but under contract so we need a taker. I can't see the club offering anything but pay as you play to Reid.

The skill by which PP will live or fall will be the quality of he younger players he recruits.

I would expect to see a new keeper in and a whole new midfield with an ability to pass & run with a ball.

Given the above I can only really see Darby, Davies, McHugh, Meredith, Hanson & McLean being still here in August 2014.
"Rhodes added: “There are a lot of contracts up, so we can wheel and deal and learn from our first year in League One. That’s what it’s all about." I think the thing we will change will be a shift away from having a load of expensive older players (Doyle, Jones, McArdle, Thompson, Gray to name a few that are out of contract) to a much younger and cheaper side. We need to let Yeats go, but under contract so we need a taker. I can't see the club offering anything but pay as you play to Reid. The skill by which PP will live or fall will be the quality of he younger players he recruits. I would expect to see a new keeper in and a whole new midfield with an ability to pass & run with a ball. Given the above I can only really see Darby, Davies, McHugh, Meredith, Hanson & McLean being still here in August 2014. notpoliticallycorrect
  • Score: 13

8:24am Wed 5 Feb 14

stiflers mom says...

notpoliticallycorrec
t
wrote:
So the supporters of the £200 season tickets get their wish. Surely a £30-£50 rise would have helped with the player budget?

The thing is, nobody really knows how many will renew? If we don't start winning soon I recon we could drop the 2,000 season ticket holders that the cheap prices were kept on to attract.

That would then look folly, I certainly don't want the club to get into financial trouble again and would rather see us cover the deficit through higher prices and better product.

At the end if the day it's either your club or it's not and to be fair, the moaners who complain about paying £10 a game over a season quickly found a couple of hundred quid for a day out or two at Wembley.
If you or any other supporters think that season tickets are too cheap,there is nothing to to stop you donating extra money to the club.
[quote][p][bold]notpoliticallycorrec t[/bold] wrote: So the supporters of the £200 season tickets get their wish. Surely a £30-£50 rise would have helped with the player budget? The thing is, nobody really knows how many will renew? If we don't start winning soon I recon we could drop the 2,000 season ticket holders that the cheap prices were kept on to attract. That would then look folly, I certainly don't want the club to get into financial trouble again and would rather see us cover the deficit through higher prices and better product. At the end if the day it's either your club or it's not and to be fair, the moaners who complain about paying £10 a game over a season quickly found a couple of hundred quid for a day out or two at Wembley.[/p][/quote]If you or any other supporters think that season tickets are too cheap,there is nothing to to stop you donating extra money to the club. stiflers mom
  • Score: 34

8:29am Wed 5 Feb 14

Danger Mouse Bantam says...

There are football league rules in place that says you can't spend beyond your means. So this would of all been taken into account when setting budgets etc.

Can't for one minute see Lawn/Rhodes putting us back in the same positions we were in, in the past. Lessons have been learned I'm sure.

This story is only the first of many in the coming months, as to boost season ticket sales.

But what everyone is forgetting is, the cheap season ticket deals puts bums on seats, increases revenue ie programmes, merchandise, food and drink. Better sponsorship, marketing and corporate deals can be attracted due to a bigger captive audience.

Plus the fact that getting the younger generation and floating fans in cheap are our future support. Once the time is right, the club will adjust prices to suit accordingly......
There are football league rules in place that says you can't spend beyond your means. So this would of all been taken into account when setting budgets etc. Can't for one minute see Lawn/Rhodes putting us back in the same positions we were in, in the past. Lessons have been learned I'm sure. This story is only the first of many in the coming months, as to boost season ticket sales. But what everyone is forgetting is, the cheap season ticket deals puts bums on seats, increases revenue ie programmes, merchandise, food and drink. Better sponsorship, marketing and corporate deals can be attracted due to a bigger captive audience. Plus the fact that getting the younger generation and floating fans in cheap are our future support. Once the time is right, the club will adjust prices to suit accordingly...... Danger Mouse Bantam
  • Score: 18

8:34am Wed 5 Feb 14

GenieBantam says...

I wouldnt mind paying an extra £50 for my season ticket. Is there anything in the FA rules that say you cant make a donation to the club?

If not then I would book my ticket online as usual £199 and then make a separate donation. If a couple of thousand or more do the same then that would boost the budget somewhat.
I wouldnt mind paying an extra £50 for my season ticket. Is there anything in the FA rules that say you cant make a donation to the club? If not then I would book my ticket online as usual £199 and then make a separate donation. If a couple of thousand or more do the same then that would boost the budget somewhat. GenieBantam
  • Score: 9

8:52am Wed 5 Feb 14

Farsley Bantam says...

stiflers mom wrote:
notpoliticallycorrec t wrote: So the supporters of the £200 season tickets get their wish. Surely a £30-£50 rise would have helped with the player budget? The thing is, nobody really knows how many will renew? If we don't start winning soon I recon we could drop the 2,000 season ticket holders that the cheap prices were kept on to attract. That would then look folly, I certainly don't want the club to get into financial trouble again and would rather see us cover the deficit through higher prices and better product. At the end if the day it's either your club or it's not and to be fair, the moaners who complain about paying £10 a game over a season quickly found a couple of hundred quid for a day out or two at Wembley.
If you or any other supporters think that season tickets are too cheap,there is nothing to to stop you donating extra money to the club.
True but many people will not voluntarily donate to the club, myself included. And why should I? I couldn't donate anywhere near enough money to make a difference so it would be pointless to do so. A forced 'donation' by way of a price increase could really swell the coffers by a significant amount. A £50 increase on say 8k season tickets would put an extra £400k into the pot, though I wouldn't be surprised if a price increase has already been factored into the budget and the figures quoted above.
[quote][p][bold]stiflers mom[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notpoliticallycorrec t[/bold] wrote: So the supporters of the £200 season tickets get their wish. Surely a £30-£50 rise would have helped with the player budget? The thing is, nobody really knows how many will renew? If we don't start winning soon I recon we could drop the 2,000 season ticket holders that the cheap prices were kept on to attract. That would then look folly, I certainly don't want the club to get into financial trouble again and would rather see us cover the deficit through higher prices and better product. At the end if the day it's either your club or it's not and to be fair, the moaners who complain about paying £10 a game over a season quickly found a couple of hundred quid for a day out or two at Wembley.[/p][/quote]If you or any other supporters think that season tickets are too cheap,there is nothing to to stop you donating extra money to the club.[/p][/quote]True but many people will not voluntarily donate to the club, myself included. And why should I? I couldn't donate anywhere near enough money to make a difference so it would be pointless to do so. A forced 'donation' by way of a price increase could really swell the coffers by a significant amount. A £50 increase on say 8k season tickets would put an extra £400k into the pot, though I wouldn't be surprised if a price increase has already been factored into the budget and the figures quoted above. Farsley Bantam
  • Score: -2

8:53am Wed 5 Feb 14

minkiebantam says...

Putting £50 on a season ticket (Which i would pay) puts £600,000 in the kitty. That would sort the budget problem out in 1 swoop!?
CTID!
Putting £50 on a season ticket (Which i would pay) puts £600,000 in the kitty. That would sort the budget problem out in 1 swoop!? CTID! minkiebantam
  • Score: 4

9:00am Wed 5 Feb 14

Farsley Bantam says...

minkiebantam wrote:
Putting £50 on a season ticket (Which i would pay) puts £600,000 in the kitty. That would sort the budget problem out in 1 swoop!? CTID!
Not quite. The 12k season ticket figure includes flexi cards, kids tickets and seniors and its unlikely that an extra £50 would be added to the price of each of these. Still a significant sum mind.
[quote][p][bold]minkiebantam[/bold] wrote: Putting £50 on a season ticket (Which i would pay) puts £600,000 in the kitty. That would sort the budget problem out in 1 swoop!? CTID![/p][/quote]Not quite. The 12k season ticket figure includes flexi cards, kids tickets and seniors and its unlikely that an extra £50 would be added to the price of each of these. Still a significant sum mind. Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 2

9:13am Wed 5 Feb 14

Farsley Bantam says...

On a totally seperate issue- Anyone else enjoying the Elland Road debacle?
On a totally seperate issue- Anyone else enjoying the Elland Road debacle? Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 16

9:34am Wed 5 Feb 14

Waydownsouth says...

The expectancy for this season was too high, and I don't see any reason for gloom. I think the team has grafted hard these last few difficult months and there has just been a bit of quality missing in midfield and to some extent up front, to turn draws into wins - and we have had some ill-timed injuries to key players. I think with the new players we'll more than hold our own this season and we can start next season from a good base. I think the current board have been great stewards of the club and well understand how getting into unsustainable debt leads to a downward spiral. Carry on team, PP, board, and supporters
The expectancy for this season was too high, and I don't see any reason for gloom. I think the team has grafted hard these last few difficult months and there has just been a bit of quality missing in midfield and to some extent up front, to turn draws into wins - and we have had some ill-timed injuries to key players. I think with the new players we'll more than hold our own this season and we can start next season from a good base. I think the current board have been great stewards of the club and well understand how getting into unsustainable debt leads to a downward spiral. Carry on team, PP, board, and supporters Waydownsouth
  • Score: 16

10:14am Wed 5 Feb 14

birbir says...

Morning all. One thing I would do if we stay is up is remove Phil Parkinson. Some of you may disagree but really 1 win in 16/17 games is relegation form. Yes we have been hit by injuries but you just can't blame it on that.

The overall style of football and man management of certain players Parkinson has either brought in or let go is pretty grim. We cannot rest on the brilliant episodes of two wembley trips etc. The premise is to build upon that.

We only have 3 players in contract at the end of the season - for a professional club of the size of Bradford City that is pretty shocking!! Unless we have signed a whole new first team on pre-contract basis that I don't know about we are seriously in the mire.

The club needs to bring in a mix of youth and some experienced players for this league. A manager who plays football on the ground is not afraid to attack would be the first thing!! Parkinson is negative and a lot of games we could have won this season yet ended up as draws or losses. Losing to Notts County bottom of the league was shocking!!

Time to move this club forward with fresh new ideas and players that want to play for the club!!!
Morning all. One thing I would do if we stay is up is remove Phil Parkinson. Some of you may disagree but really 1 win in 16/17 games is relegation form. Yes we have been hit by injuries but you just can't blame it on that. The overall style of football and man management of certain players Parkinson has either brought in or let go is pretty grim. We cannot rest on the brilliant episodes of two wembley trips etc. The premise is to build upon that. We only have 3 players in contract at the end of the season - for a professional club of the size of Bradford City that is pretty shocking!! Unless we have signed a whole new first team on pre-contract basis that I don't know about we are seriously in the mire. The club needs to bring in a mix of youth and some experienced players for this league. A manager who plays football on the ground is not afraid to attack would be the first thing!! Parkinson is negative and a lot of games we could have won this season yet ended up as draws or losses. Losing to Notts County bottom of the league was shocking!! Time to move this club forward with fresh new ideas and players that want to play for the club!!! birbir
  • Score: -24

10:16am Wed 5 Feb 14

Peter300 says...

notpoliticallycorrec
t
wrote:
So the supporters of the £200 season tickets get their wish. Surely a £30-£50 rise would have helped with the player budget?

The thing is, nobody really knows how many will renew? If we don't start winning soon I recon we could drop the 2,000 season ticket holders that the cheap prices were kept on to attract.

That would then look folly, I certainly don't want the club to get into financial trouble again and would rather see us cover the deficit through higher prices and better product.

At the end if the day it's either your club or it's not and to be fair, the moaners who complain about paying £10 a game over a season quickly found a couple of hundred quid for a day out or two at Wembley.
David Baldwin said that those who wish to pay more will be able to do so. As far as you are concerned, the club can expect a 'donation' of approx. £30-£50. That's right isn't it? A bit like Shaun from Richmond, though he does not support City, but very generously donates. Everyone thanks him for that.
[quote][p][bold]notpoliticallycorrec t[/bold] wrote: So the supporters of the £200 season tickets get their wish. Surely a £30-£50 rise would have helped with the player budget? The thing is, nobody really knows how many will renew? If we don't start winning soon I recon we could drop the 2,000 season ticket holders that the cheap prices were kept on to attract. That would then look folly, I certainly don't want the club to get into financial trouble again and would rather see us cover the deficit through higher prices and better product. At the end if the day it's either your club or it's not and to be fair, the moaners who complain about paying £10 a game over a season quickly found a couple of hundred quid for a day out or two at Wembley.[/p][/quote]David Baldwin said that those who wish to pay more will be able to do so. As far as you are concerned, the club can expect a 'donation' of approx. £30-£50. That's right isn't it? A bit like Shaun from Richmond, though he does not support City, but very generously donates. Everyone thanks him for that. Peter300
  • Score: -6

10:21am Wed 5 Feb 14

Peter300 says...

Cityman23 wrote:
I might be in a minority but I don't want City to go 'over budget' in their spending. I believe they should be sticking within budget.

Too many teams STILL haven't learnt the lesson and having been close to nearly going out of existance twice City should have learnt theirs!!

Up and down the country clubs are STILL getting into financial difficulties-Leeds, Rangers..and many have ALREADY nearly gone bust!! It's crazy.

I say, live withn your means City. Bring on young talent rather than buying players. Don't pay wages you can't afford. Charge a fair price for season tickets and match day admission.

Yes, promotion would be great but most of all the fans want their team in existence!!
I think City have learnt their lesson. You will see that the vast majority of fans on here and across football generally are in favour of spending money buying players. You cannot fail to notice the outcry when this does not happen. So, you need to convince these people that your way is the correct one. Best of luck!
[quote][p][bold]Cityman23[/bold] wrote: I might be in a minority but I don't want City to go 'over budget' in their spending. I believe they should be sticking within budget. Too many teams STILL haven't learnt the lesson and having been close to nearly going out of existance twice City should have learnt theirs!! Up and down the country clubs are STILL getting into financial difficulties-Leeds, Rangers..and many have ALREADY nearly gone bust!! It's crazy. I say, live withn your means City. Bring on young talent rather than buying players. Don't pay wages you can't afford. Charge a fair price for season tickets and match day admission. Yes, promotion would be great but most of all the fans want their team in existence!![/p][/quote]I think City have learnt their lesson. You will see that the vast majority of fans on here and across football generally are in favour of spending money buying players. You cannot fail to notice the outcry when this does not happen. So, you need to convince these people that your way is the correct one. Best of luck! Peter300
  • Score: -2

10:21am Wed 5 Feb 14

minkiebantam says...

Farsley Bantam wrote:
minkiebantam wrote: Putting £50 on a season ticket (Which i would pay) puts £600,000 in the kitty. That would sort the budget problem out in 1 swoop!? CTID!
Not quite. The 12k season ticket figure includes flexi cards, kids tickets and seniors and its unlikely that an extra £50 would be added to the price of each of these. Still a significant sum mind.
My bad, this is true. But your figure of £400,000 would still make a massive impact on the overspend.
P. S Im loving the Leeds saga as much as you! lol
I work in Leeds, so most of the guys here are Scum fans.
CTID!!
[quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]minkiebantam[/bold] wrote: Putting £50 on a season ticket (Which i would pay) puts £600,000 in the kitty. That would sort the budget problem out in 1 swoop!? CTID![/p][/quote]Not quite. The 12k season ticket figure includes flexi cards, kids tickets and seniors and its unlikely that an extra £50 would be added to the price of each of these. Still a significant sum mind.[/p][/quote]My bad, this is true. But your figure of £400,000 would still make a massive impact on the overspend. P. S Im loving the Leeds saga as much as you! lol I work in Leeds, so most of the guys here are Scum fans. CTID!! minkiebantam
  • Score: 4

10:23am Wed 5 Feb 14

Peter300 says...

tinytoonster wrote:
“We can’t afford to set another budget at £1m over what we can really afford. We could do that this year because we always knew we had Nahki Wells to sell.
so they knew they were selling him.
kind of contradicts lawn saying they wanted him to stay and he forced them to sell!
obvious anyway because wells kept his mouth shut when lawn slagged him off.
maybe those who called him will apologise, doubtful.
Was anyone 'slagged-off' as you put it? Once a player indicates he wants to move, it's a matter of negotiating a deal. John Hendrie explained the situation very well.
[quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: “We can’t afford to set another budget at £1m over what we can really afford. We could do that this year because we always knew we had Nahki Wells to sell. so they knew they were selling him. kind of contradicts lawn saying they wanted him to stay and he forced them to sell! obvious anyway because wells kept his mouth shut when lawn slagged him off. maybe those who called him will apologise, doubtful.[/p][/quote]Was anyone 'slagged-off' as you put it? Once a player indicates he wants to move, it's a matter of negotiating a deal. John Hendrie explained the situation very well. Peter300
  • Score: 5

10:26am Wed 5 Feb 14

Peter300 says...

notpoliticallycorrec
t
wrote:
"Rhodes added: “There are a lot of contracts up, so we can wheel and deal and learn from our first year in League One. That’s what it’s all about."

I think the thing we will change will be a shift away from having a load of expensive older players (Doyle, Jones, McArdle, Thompson, Gray to name a few that are out of contract) to a much younger and cheaper side.

We need to let Yeats go, but under contract so we need a taker. I can't see the club offering anything but pay as you play to Reid.

The skill by which PP will live or fall will be the quality of he younger players he recruits.

I would expect to see a new keeper in and a whole new midfield with an ability to pass & run with a ball.

Given the above I can only really see Darby, Davies, McHugh, Meredith, Hanson & McLean being still here in August 2014.
Evolution, not revolution. I think Phil places great emphasis on having a good ethos in the dressing room. I'm sure on or two experienced players will arrive.
[quote][p][bold]notpoliticallycorrec t[/bold] wrote: "Rhodes added: “There are a lot of contracts up, so we can wheel and deal and learn from our first year in League One. That’s what it’s all about." I think the thing we will change will be a shift away from having a load of expensive older players (Doyle, Jones, McArdle, Thompson, Gray to name a few that are out of contract) to a much younger and cheaper side. We need to let Yeats go, but under contract so we need a taker. I can't see the club offering anything but pay as you play to Reid. The skill by which PP will live or fall will be the quality of he younger players he recruits. I would expect to see a new keeper in and a whole new midfield with an ability to pass & run with a ball. Given the above I can only really see Darby, Davies, McHugh, Meredith, Hanson & McLean being still here in August 2014.[/p][/quote]Evolution, not revolution. I think Phil places great emphasis on having a good ethos in the dressing room. I'm sure on or two experienced players will arrive. Peter300
  • Score: 7

10:30am Wed 5 Feb 14

Peter300 says...

stiflers mom wrote:
notpoliticallycorrec

t
wrote:
So the supporters of the £200 season tickets get their wish. Surely a £30-£50 rise would have helped with the player budget?

The thing is, nobody really knows how many will renew? If we don't start winning soon I recon we could drop the 2,000 season ticket holders that the cheap prices were kept on to attract.

That would then look folly, I certainly don't want the club to get into financial trouble again and would rather see us cover the deficit through higher prices and better product.

At the end if the day it's either your club or it's not and to be fair, the moaners who complain about paying £10 a game over a season quickly found a couple of hundred quid for a day out or two at Wembley.
If you or any other supporters think that season tickets are too cheap,there is nothing to to stop you donating extra money to the club.
Exactly. So the club can expect quite a lot of extra cash with all these people anxious to tell me that the tickets are too cheap. If David Baldwin reads these message boards he will be quite pleased. Maybe he should take a note of their names and make sure they put their money where their mouth is.
[quote][p][bold]stiflers mom[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notpoliticallycorrec t[/bold] wrote: So the supporters of the £200 season tickets get their wish. Surely a £30-£50 rise would have helped with the player budget? The thing is, nobody really knows how many will renew? If we don't start winning soon I recon we could drop the 2,000 season ticket holders that the cheap prices were kept on to attract. That would then look folly, I certainly don't want the club to get into financial trouble again and would rather see us cover the deficit through higher prices and better product. At the end if the day it's either your club or it's not and to be fair, the moaners who complain about paying £10 a game over a season quickly found a couple of hundred quid for a day out or two at Wembley.[/p][/quote]If you or any other supporters think that season tickets are too cheap,there is nothing to to stop you donating extra money to the club.[/p][/quote]Exactly. So the club can expect quite a lot of extra cash with all these people anxious to tell me that the tickets are too cheap. If David Baldwin reads these message boards he will be quite pleased. Maybe he should take a note of their names and make sure they put their money where their mouth is. Peter300
  • Score: 6

10:31am Wed 5 Feb 14

Peter300 says...

Danger Mouse Bantam wrote:
There are football league rules in place that says you can't spend beyond your means. So this would of all been taken into account when setting budgets etc.

Can't for one minute see Lawn/Rhodes putting us back in the same positions we were in, in the past. Lessons have been learned I'm sure.

This story is only the first of many in the coming months, as to boost season ticket sales.

But what everyone is forgetting is, the cheap season ticket deals puts bums on seats, increases revenue ie programmes, merchandise, food and drink. Better sponsorship, marketing and corporate deals can be attracted due to a bigger captive audience.

Plus the fact that getting the younger generation and floating fans in cheap are our future support. Once the time is right, the club will adjust prices to suit accordingly......
Having the 'cheap' season tickets is a great idea. Well done the club!
[quote][p][bold]Danger Mouse Bantam[/bold] wrote: There are football league rules in place that says you can't spend beyond your means. So this would of all been taken into account when setting budgets etc. Can't for one minute see Lawn/Rhodes putting us back in the same positions we were in, in the past. Lessons have been learned I'm sure. This story is only the first of many in the coming months, as to boost season ticket sales. But what everyone is forgetting is, the cheap season ticket deals puts bums on seats, increases revenue ie programmes, merchandise, food and drink. Better sponsorship, marketing and corporate deals can be attracted due to a bigger captive audience. Plus the fact that getting the younger generation and floating fans in cheap are our future support. Once the time is right, the club will adjust prices to suit accordingly......[/p][/quote]Having the 'cheap' season tickets is a great idea. Well done the club! Peter300
  • Score: 9

10:33am Wed 5 Feb 14

Peter300 says...

GenieBantam wrote:
I wouldnt mind paying an extra £50 for my season ticket. Is there anything in the FA rules that say you cant make a donation to the club?

If not then I would book my ticket online as usual £199 and then make a separate donation. If a couple of thousand or more do the same then that would boost the budget somewhat.
You make that donation. David Baldwin will be delighted. And Mr. Lawn and Mr. Julian.
[quote][p][bold]GenieBantam[/bold] wrote: I wouldnt mind paying an extra £50 for my season ticket. Is there anything in the FA rules that say you cant make a donation to the club? If not then I would book my ticket online as usual £199 and then make a separate donation. If a couple of thousand or more do the same then that would boost the budget somewhat.[/p][/quote]You make that donation. David Baldwin will be delighted. And Mr. Lawn and Mr. Julian. Peter300
  • Score: 5

10:35am Wed 5 Feb 14

Farsley Bantam says...

birbir wrote:
Morning all. One thing I would do if we stay is up is remove Phil Parkinson. Some of you may disagree but really 1 win in 16/17 games is relegation form. Yes we have been hit by injuries but you just can't blame it on that. The overall style of football and man management of certain players Parkinson has either brought in or let go is pretty grim. We cannot rest on the brilliant episodes of two wembley trips etc. The premise is to build upon that. We only have 3 players in contract at the end of the season - for a professional club of the size of Bradford City that is pretty shocking!! Unless we have signed a whole new first team on pre-contract basis that I don't know about we are seriously in the mire. The club needs to bring in a mix of youth and some experienced players for this league. A manager who plays football on the ground is not afraid to attack would be the first thing!! Parkinson is negative and a lot of games we could have won this season yet ended up as draws or losses. Losing to Notts County bottom of the league was shocking!! Time to move this club forward with fresh new ideas and players that want to play for the club!!!
Disagree about sacking PP. He has made us into a tight unit that is difficult to beat. The winless run is just that, not a losing streak. With a few (quite a few) changes in the summer I have every faith in the manager.
With regard to the '3 players in contract' this is a good thing surely? The majority of the squad are the players that finished 7th in League 2. After last seasons promotion, PP rewarded these players with a chance to prove themselves in League 1. Surely it was a good move to give these players a one year contract so that those that were not up to League 1 football can be easily moved on in the summer?
[quote][p][bold]birbir[/bold] wrote: Morning all. One thing I would do if we stay is up is remove Phil Parkinson. Some of you may disagree but really 1 win in 16/17 games is relegation form. Yes we have been hit by injuries but you just can't blame it on that. The overall style of football and man management of certain players Parkinson has either brought in or let go is pretty grim. We cannot rest on the brilliant episodes of two wembley trips etc. The premise is to build upon that. We only have 3 players in contract at the end of the season - for a professional club of the size of Bradford City that is pretty shocking!! Unless we have signed a whole new first team on pre-contract basis that I don't know about we are seriously in the mire. The club needs to bring in a mix of youth and some experienced players for this league. A manager who plays football on the ground is not afraid to attack would be the first thing!! Parkinson is negative and a lot of games we could have won this season yet ended up as draws or losses. Losing to Notts County bottom of the league was shocking!! Time to move this club forward with fresh new ideas and players that want to play for the club!!![/p][/quote]Disagree about sacking PP. He has made us into a tight unit that is difficult to beat. The winless run is just that, not a losing streak. With a few (quite a few) changes in the summer I have every faith in the manager. With regard to the '3 players in contract' this is a good thing surely? The majority of the squad are the players that finished 7th in League 2. After last seasons promotion, PP rewarded these players with a chance to prove themselves in League 1. Surely it was a good move to give these players a one year contract so that those that were not up to League 1 football can be easily moved on in the summer? Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 19

10:35am Wed 5 Feb 14

Peter300 says...

Farsley Bantam wrote:
stiflers mom wrote:
notpoliticallycorrec t wrote: So the supporters of the £200 season tickets get their wish. Surely a £30-£50 rise would have helped with the player budget? The thing is, nobody really knows how many will renew? If we don't start winning soon I recon we could drop the 2,000 season ticket holders that the cheap prices were kept on to attract. That would then look folly, I certainly don't want the club to get into financial trouble again and would rather see us cover the deficit through higher prices and better product. At the end if the day it's either your club or it's not and to be fair, the moaners who complain about paying £10 a game over a season quickly found a couple of hundred quid for a day out or two at Wembley.
If you or any other supporters think that season tickets are too cheap,there is nothing to to stop you donating extra money to the club.
True but many people will not voluntarily donate to the club, myself included. And why should I? I couldn't donate anywhere near enough money to make a difference so it would be pointless to do so. A forced 'donation' by way of a price increase could really swell the coffers by a significant amount. A £50 increase on say 8k season tickets would put an extra £400k into the pot, though I wouldn't be surprised if a price increase has already been factored into the budget and the figures quoted above.
Anything else you want supporters 'forced' to do? And you would never ever complain about increased ticket prices. Right?
[quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stiflers mom[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notpoliticallycorrec t[/bold] wrote: So the supporters of the £200 season tickets get their wish. Surely a £30-£50 rise would have helped with the player budget? The thing is, nobody really knows how many will renew? If we don't start winning soon I recon we could drop the 2,000 season ticket holders that the cheap prices were kept on to attract. That would then look folly, I certainly don't want the club to get into financial trouble again and would rather see us cover the deficit through higher prices and better product. At the end if the day it's either your club or it's not and to be fair, the moaners who complain about paying £10 a game over a season quickly found a couple of hundred quid for a day out or two at Wembley.[/p][/quote]If you or any other supporters think that season tickets are too cheap,there is nothing to to stop you donating extra money to the club.[/p][/quote]True but many people will not voluntarily donate to the club, myself included. And why should I? I couldn't donate anywhere near enough money to make a difference so it would be pointless to do so. A forced 'donation' by way of a price increase could really swell the coffers by a significant amount. A £50 increase on say 8k season tickets would put an extra £400k into the pot, though I wouldn't be surprised if a price increase has already been factored into the budget and the figures quoted above.[/p][/quote]Anything else you want supporters 'forced' to do? And you would never ever complain about increased ticket prices. Right? Peter300
  • Score: 1

10:41am Wed 5 Feb 14

shaun from richmond says...

Peter300 wrote:
tinytoonster wrote:
“We can’t afford to set another budget at £1m over what we can really afford. We could do that this year because we always knew we had Nahki Wells to sell.
so they knew they were selling him.
kind of contradicts lawn saying they wanted him to stay and he forced them to sell!
obvious anyway because wells kept his mouth shut when lawn slagged him off.
maybe those who called him will apologise, doubtful.
Was anyone 'slagged-off' as you put it? Once a player indicates he wants to move, it's a matter of negotiating a deal. John Hendrie explained the situation very well.
Hendrie... should know all about leaving a club!!. After losing the play off against Boro threw his boots in his bag and announced "That's me off"!!....I wont divulge which player pinned him to a wall......BUT I bet you can guess!!
[quote][p][bold]Peter300[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: “We can’t afford to set another budget at £1m over what we can really afford. We could do that this year because we always knew we had Nahki Wells to sell. so they knew they were selling him. kind of contradicts lawn saying they wanted him to stay and he forced them to sell! obvious anyway because wells kept his mouth shut when lawn slagged him off. maybe those who called him will apologise, doubtful.[/p][/quote]Was anyone 'slagged-off' as you put it? Once a player indicates he wants to move, it's a matter of negotiating a deal. John Hendrie explained the situation very well.[/p][/quote]Hendrie... should know all about leaving a club!!. After losing the play off against Boro threw his boots in his bag and announced "That's me off"!!....I wont divulge which player pinned him to a wall......BUT I bet you can guess!! shaun from richmond
  • Score: -6

10:41am Wed 5 Feb 14

bcfc mad85 says...

I don't think any fan's would mind paying more but I'm sorry to say I don't think the budget given is enough for this league they should have sold nahki to qpr for 3 mil he should not have had the choice they say it's a business thats wat a loss ov 1.5 mil that could have gone bk into the club
I don't think any fan's would mind paying more but I'm sorry to say I don't think the budget given is enough for this league they should have sold nahki to qpr for 3 mil he should not have had the choice they say it's a business thats wat a loss ov 1.5 mil that could have gone bk into the club bcfc mad85
  • Score: -6

10:45am Wed 5 Feb 14

whisky1 says...

birbir wrote:
Morning all. One thing I would do if we stay is up is remove Phil Parkinson. Some of you may disagree but really 1 win in 16/17 games is relegation form. Yes we have been hit by injuries but you just can't blame it on that. The overall style of football and man management of certain players Parkinson has either brought in or let go is pretty grim. We cannot rest on the brilliant episodes of two wembley trips etc. The premise is to build upon that. We only have 3 players in contract at the end of the season - for a professional club of the size of Bradford City that is pretty shocking!! Unless we have signed a whole new first team on pre-contract basis that I don't know about we are seriously in the mire. The club needs to bring in a mix of youth and some experienced players for this league. A manager who plays football on the ground is not afraid to attack would be the first thing!! Parkinson is negative and a lot of games we could have won this season yet ended up as draws or losses. Losing to Notts County bottom of the league was shocking!! Time to move this club forward with fresh new ideas and players that want to play for the club!!!
I think we can file this one under " Total and utter B0llocs" x
[quote][p][bold]birbir[/bold] wrote: Morning all. One thing I would do if we stay is up is remove Phil Parkinson. Some of you may disagree but really 1 win in 16/17 games is relegation form. Yes we have been hit by injuries but you just can't blame it on that. The overall style of football and man management of certain players Parkinson has either brought in or let go is pretty grim. We cannot rest on the brilliant episodes of two wembley trips etc. The premise is to build upon that. We only have 3 players in contract at the end of the season - for a professional club of the size of Bradford City that is pretty shocking!! Unless we have signed a whole new first team on pre-contract basis that I don't know about we are seriously in the mire. The club needs to bring in a mix of youth and some experienced players for this league. A manager who plays football on the ground is not afraid to attack would be the first thing!! Parkinson is negative and a lot of games we could have won this season yet ended up as draws or losses. Losing to Notts County bottom of the league was shocking!! Time to move this club forward with fresh new ideas and players that want to play for the club!!![/p][/quote]I think we can file this one under " Total and utter B0llocs" x whisky1
  • Score: 14

10:45am Wed 5 Feb 14

shaun from richmond says...

Peter300 wrote:
stiflers mom wrote:
notpoliticallycorrec


t
wrote:
So the supporters of the £200 season tickets get their wish. Surely a £30-£50 rise would have helped with the player budget?

The thing is, nobody really knows how many will renew? If we don't start winning soon I recon we could drop the 2,000 season ticket holders that the cheap prices were kept on to attract.

That would then look folly, I certainly don't want the club to get into financial trouble again and would rather see us cover the deficit through higher prices and better product.

At the end if the day it's either your club or it's not and to be fair, the moaners who complain about paying £10 a game over a season quickly found a couple of hundred quid for a day out or two at Wembley.
If you or any other supporters think that season tickets are too cheap,there is nothing to to stop you donating extra money to the club.
Exactly. So the club can expect quite a lot of extra cash with all these people anxious to tell me that the tickets are too cheap. If David Baldwin reads these message boards he will be quite pleased. Maybe he should take a note of their names and make sure they put their money where their mouth is.
MMmm....MONEY!!.....
..Peter... if Season Tickets were £50 you wouldn't buy one!! BECAUSE YOU DONT GO TO GAMES!!....REMEMBER?
?.
[quote][p][bold]Peter300[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stiflers mom[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notpoliticallycorrec t[/bold] wrote: So the supporters of the £200 season tickets get their wish. Surely a £30-£50 rise would have helped with the player budget? The thing is, nobody really knows how many will renew? If we don't start winning soon I recon we could drop the 2,000 season ticket holders that the cheap prices were kept on to attract. That would then look folly, I certainly don't want the club to get into financial trouble again and would rather see us cover the deficit through higher prices and better product. At the end if the day it's either your club or it's not and to be fair, the moaners who complain about paying £10 a game over a season quickly found a couple of hundred quid for a day out or two at Wembley.[/p][/quote]If you or any other supporters think that season tickets are too cheap,there is nothing to to stop you donating extra money to the club.[/p][/quote]Exactly. So the club can expect quite a lot of extra cash with all these people anxious to tell me that the tickets are too cheap. If David Baldwin reads these message boards he will be quite pleased. Maybe he should take a note of their names and make sure they put their money where their mouth is.[/p][/quote]MMmm....MONEY!!..... ..Peter... if Season Tickets were £50 you wouldn't buy one!! BECAUSE YOU DONT GO TO GAMES!!....REMEMBER? ?. shaun from richmond
  • Score: -5

10:47am Wed 5 Feb 14

Farsley Bantam says...

Peter300 wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote:
stiflers mom wrote:
notpoliticallycorrec t wrote: So the supporters of the £200 season tickets get their wish. Surely a £30-£50 rise would have helped with the player budget? The thing is, nobody really knows how many will renew? If we don't start winning soon I recon we could drop the 2,000 season ticket holders that the cheap prices were kept on to attract. That would then look folly, I certainly don't want the club to get into financial trouble again and would rather see us cover the deficit through higher prices and better product. At the end if the day it's either your club or it's not and to be fair, the moaners who complain about paying £10 a game over a season quickly found a couple of hundred quid for a day out or two at Wembley.
If you or any other supporters think that season tickets are too cheap,there is nothing to to stop you donating extra money to the club.
True but many people will not voluntarily donate to the club, myself included. And why should I? I couldn't donate anywhere near enough money to make a difference so it would be pointless to do so. A forced 'donation' by way of a price increase could really swell the coffers by a significant amount. A £50 increase on say 8k season tickets would put an extra £400k into the pot, though I wouldn't be surprised if a price increase has already been factored into the budget and the figures quoted above.
Anything else you want supporters 'forced' to do? And you would never ever complain about increased ticket prices. Right?
Forced is perhaps the wrong word. Obviously they are not forced at all, they can simply not buy a ticket! You clearly get what I mean.
I wouldn't complain about season ticket prices if the price increase is reasonable and the additional revenues are spent improving the squad, no. A £50 increase fits that criteria. I would complain if I was paying considerably more and the club brought in a load of non league journeymen on £25 a week plus expenses, yes.
[quote][p][bold]Peter300[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stiflers mom[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notpoliticallycorrec t[/bold] wrote: So the supporters of the £200 season tickets get their wish. Surely a £30-£50 rise would have helped with the player budget? The thing is, nobody really knows how many will renew? If we don't start winning soon I recon we could drop the 2,000 season ticket holders that the cheap prices were kept on to attract. That would then look folly, I certainly don't want the club to get into financial trouble again and would rather see us cover the deficit through higher prices and better product. At the end if the day it's either your club or it's not and to be fair, the moaners who complain about paying £10 a game over a season quickly found a couple of hundred quid for a day out or two at Wembley.[/p][/quote]If you or any other supporters think that season tickets are too cheap,there is nothing to to stop you donating extra money to the club.[/p][/quote]True but many people will not voluntarily donate to the club, myself included. And why should I? I couldn't donate anywhere near enough money to make a difference so it would be pointless to do so. A forced 'donation' by way of a price increase could really swell the coffers by a significant amount. A £50 increase on say 8k season tickets would put an extra £400k into the pot, though I wouldn't be surprised if a price increase has already been factored into the budget and the figures quoted above.[/p][/quote]Anything else you want supporters 'forced' to do? And you would never ever complain about increased ticket prices. Right?[/p][/quote]Forced is perhaps the wrong word. Obviously they are not forced at all, they can simply not buy a ticket! You clearly get what I mean. I wouldn't complain about season ticket prices if the price increase is reasonable and the additional revenues are spent improving the squad, no. A £50 increase fits that criteria. I would complain if I was paying considerably more and the club brought in a load of non league journeymen on £25 a week plus expenses, yes. Farsley Bantam
  • Score: -1

10:50am Wed 5 Feb 14

whisky1 says...

shaun from richmond wrote:
Peter300 wrote:
tinytoonster wrote: “We can’t afford to set another budget at £1m over what we can really afford. We could do that this year because we always knew we had Nahki Wells to sell. so they knew they were selling him. kind of contradicts lawn saying they wanted him to stay and he forced them to sell! obvious anyway because wells kept his mouth shut when lawn slagged him off. maybe those who called him will apologise, doubtful.
Was anyone 'slagged-off' as you put it? Once a player indicates he wants to move, it's a matter of negotiating a deal. John Hendrie explained the situation very well.
Hendrie... should know all about leaving a club!!. After losing the play off against Boro threw his boots in his bag and announced "That's me off"!!....I wont divulge which player pinned him to a wall......BUT I bet you can guess!!
I Know JH professionally reasonably well and he is a grounded sensible guy with a great affinity to the club and fans. Mercenary he is not. As usual your posts are deluded and utterly conceited.
[quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peter300[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: “We can’t afford to set another budget at £1m over what we can really afford. We could do that this year because we always knew we had Nahki Wells to sell. so they knew they were selling him. kind of contradicts lawn saying they wanted him to stay and he forced them to sell! obvious anyway because wells kept his mouth shut when lawn slagged him off. maybe those who called him will apologise, doubtful.[/p][/quote]Was anyone 'slagged-off' as you put it? Once a player indicates he wants to move, it's a matter of negotiating a deal. John Hendrie explained the situation very well.[/p][/quote]Hendrie... should know all about leaving a club!!. After losing the play off against Boro threw his boots in his bag and announced "That's me off"!!....I wont divulge which player pinned him to a wall......BUT I bet you can guess!![/p][/quote]I Know JH professionally reasonably well and he is a grounded sensible guy with a great affinity to the club and fans. Mercenary he is not. As usual your posts are deluded and utterly conceited. whisky1
  • Score: 8

11:09am Wed 5 Feb 14

BCFCBoothy1 says...

birbir wrote:
Morning all. One thing I would do if we stay is up is remove Phil Parkinson. Some of you may disagree but really 1 win in 16/17 games is relegation form. Yes we have been hit by injuries but you just can't blame it on that.

The overall style of football and man management of certain players Parkinson has either brought in or let go is pretty grim. We cannot rest on the brilliant episodes of two wembley trips etc. The premise is to build upon that.

We only have 3 players in contract at the end of the season - for a professional club of the size of Bradford City that is pretty shocking!! Unless we have signed a whole new first team on pre-contract basis that I don't know about we are seriously in the mire.

The club needs to bring in a mix of youth and some experienced players for this league. A manager who plays football on the ground is not afraid to attack would be the first thing!! Parkinson is negative and a lot of games we could have won this season yet ended up as draws or losses. Losing to Notts County bottom of the league was shocking!!

Time to move this club forward with fresh new ideas and players that want to play for the club!!!
Brain dead!
[quote][p][bold]birbir[/bold] wrote: Morning all. One thing I would do if we stay is up is remove Phil Parkinson. Some of you may disagree but really 1 win in 16/17 games is relegation form. Yes we have been hit by injuries but you just can't blame it on that. The overall style of football and man management of certain players Parkinson has either brought in or let go is pretty grim. We cannot rest on the brilliant episodes of two wembley trips etc. The premise is to build upon that. We only have 3 players in contract at the end of the season - for a professional club of the size of Bradford City that is pretty shocking!! Unless we have signed a whole new first team on pre-contract basis that I don't know about we are seriously in the mire. The club needs to bring in a mix of youth and some experienced players for this league. A manager who plays football on the ground is not afraid to attack would be the first thing!! Parkinson is negative and a lot of games we could have won this season yet ended up as draws or losses. Losing to Notts County bottom of the league was shocking!! Time to move this club forward with fresh new ideas and players that want to play for the club!!![/p][/quote]Brain dead! BCFCBoothy1
  • Score: 8

11:13am Wed 5 Feb 14

bcfc1903 says...

Good to see some forward thinking going on in the BCFC boardroom whatever happens with the Mark Stewart judgement.

Thankfully our club will never descend into the total mess that has occurred in the LUFC boardroom, what a complete laughing stock that club has turned into!!!!! Their fans with serious cash need to somehow get involved in running the club and get it stabilized before it's too late. Absolute shambles.
Good to see some forward thinking going on in the BCFC boardroom whatever happens with the Mark Stewart judgement. Thankfully our club will never descend into the total mess that has occurred in the LUFC boardroom, what a complete laughing stock that club has turned into!!!!! Their fans with serious cash need to somehow get involved in running the club and get it stabilized before it's too late. Absolute shambles. bcfc1903
  • Score: 2

11:21am Wed 5 Feb 14

whisky1 says...

bcfc1903 wrote:
Good to see some forward thinking going on in the BCFC boardroom whatever happens with the Mark Stewart judgement. Thankfully our club will never descend into the total mess that has occurred in the LUFC boardroom, what a complete laughing stock that club has turned into!!!!! Their fans with serious cash need to somehow get involved in running the club and get it stabilized before it's too late. Absolute shambles.
Nah let the Italian take over they deserve each other
[quote][p][bold]bcfc1903[/bold] wrote: Good to see some forward thinking going on in the BCFC boardroom whatever happens with the Mark Stewart judgement. Thankfully our club will never descend into the total mess that has occurred in the LUFC boardroom, what a complete laughing stock that club has turned into!!!!! Their fans with serious cash need to somehow get involved in running the club and get it stabilized before it's too late. Absolute shambles.[/p][/quote]Nah let the Italian take over they deserve each other whisky1
  • Score: 10

11:39am Wed 5 Feb 14

shaun from richmond says...

whisky1 wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote:
Peter300 wrote:
tinytoonster wrote: “We can’t afford to set another budget at £1m over what we can really afford. We could do that this year because we always knew we had Nahki Wells to sell. so they knew they were selling him. kind of contradicts lawn saying they wanted him to stay and he forced them to sell! obvious anyway because wells kept his mouth shut when lawn slagged him off. maybe those who called him will apologise, doubtful.
Was anyone 'slagged-off' as you put it? Once a player indicates he wants to move, it's a matter of negotiating a deal. John Hendrie explained the situation very well.
Hendrie... should know all about leaving a club!!. After losing the play off against Boro threw his boots in his bag and announced "That's me off"!!....I wont divulge which player pinned him to a wall......BUT I bet you can guess!!
I Know JH professionally reasonably well and he is a grounded sensible guy with a great affinity to the club and fans. Mercenary he is not. As usual your posts are deluded and utterly conceited.
Hendrie is a Boro supporter who cant get " A Gig" at the Riverside...
Not the most popular player among other Ex City players....and to have a Suite named after him is nothing but a JOKE!.
[quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peter300[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: “We can’t afford to set another budget at £1m over what we can really afford. We could do that this year because we always knew we had Nahki Wells to sell. so they knew they were selling him. kind of contradicts lawn saying they wanted him to stay and he forced them to sell! obvious anyway because wells kept his mouth shut when lawn slagged him off. maybe those who called him will apologise, doubtful.[/p][/quote]Was anyone 'slagged-off' as you put it? Once a player indicates he wants to move, it's a matter of negotiating a deal. John Hendrie explained the situation very well.[/p][/quote]Hendrie... should know all about leaving a club!!. After losing the play off against Boro threw his boots in his bag and announced "That's me off"!!....I wont divulge which player pinned him to a wall......BUT I bet you can guess!![/p][/quote]I Know JH professionally reasonably well and he is a grounded sensible guy with a great affinity to the club and fans. Mercenary he is not. As usual your posts are deluded and utterly conceited.[/p][/quote]Hendrie is a Boro supporter who cant get " A Gig" at the Riverside... Not the most popular player among other Ex City players....and to have a Suite named after him is nothing but a JOKE!. shaun from richmond
  • Score: -7

12:12pm Wed 5 Feb 14

lawsonio123 says...

birbir wrote:
Morning all. One thing I would do if we stay is up is remove Phil Parkinson. Some of you may disagree but really 1 win in 16/17 games is relegation form. Yes we have been hit by injuries but you just can't blame it on that.

The overall style of football and man management of certain players Parkinson has either brought in or let go is pretty grim. We cannot rest on the brilliant episodes of two wembley trips etc. The premise is to build upon that.

We only have 3 players in contract at the end of the season - for a professional club of the size of Bradford City that is pretty shocking!! Unless we have signed a whole new first team on pre-contract basis that I don't know about we are seriously in the mire.

The club needs to bring in a mix of youth and some experienced players for this league. A manager who plays football on the ground is not afraid to attack would be the first thing!! Parkinson is negative and a lot of games we could have won this season yet ended up as draws or losses. Losing to Notts County bottom of the league was shocking!!

Time to move this club forward with fresh new ideas and players that want to play for the club!!!
Um Do you fancy the man from Swansea he plays football on the ground and is now free. Your 3 players is wrong you have forgotten the young lad Keep Watching
[quote][p][bold]birbir[/bold] wrote: Morning all. One thing I would do if we stay is up is remove Phil Parkinson. Some of you may disagree but really 1 win in 16/17 games is relegation form. Yes we have been hit by injuries but you just can't blame it on that. The overall style of football and man management of certain players Parkinson has either brought in or let go is pretty grim. We cannot rest on the brilliant episodes of two wembley trips etc. The premise is to build upon that. We only have 3 players in contract at the end of the season - for a professional club of the size of Bradford City that is pretty shocking!! Unless we have signed a whole new first team on pre-contract basis that I don't know about we are seriously in the mire. The club needs to bring in a mix of youth and some experienced players for this league. A manager who plays football on the ground is not afraid to attack would be the first thing!! Parkinson is negative and a lot of games we could have won this season yet ended up as draws or losses. Losing to Notts County bottom of the league was shocking!! Time to move this club forward with fresh new ideas and players that want to play for the club!!![/p][/quote]Um Do you fancy the man from Swansea he plays football on the ground and is now free. Your 3 players is wrong you have forgotten the young lad Keep Watching lawsonio123
  • Score: 5

12:23pm Wed 5 Feb 14

lawsonio123 says...

This talk of sacking Mr Parkinson have some of you gone mad or is it just the time of the moon. He can only play the hand he has which has proved to be not quite good enough for this division. He is now in the process of changing the team to take account of this so please let him get on with his job. he knows what he is doing and will move us forward given backing
This talk of sacking Mr Parkinson have some of you gone mad or is it just the time of the moon. He can only play the hand he has which has proved to be not quite good enough for this division. He is now in the process of changing the team to take account of this so please let him get on with his job. he knows what he is doing and will move us forward given backing lawsonio123
  • Score: 13

1:23pm Wed 5 Feb 14

wakefieldbantam says...

shaun from richmond wrote:
Peter300 wrote:
tinytoonster wrote:
“We can’t afford to set another budget at £1m over what we can really afford. We could do that this year because we always knew we had Nahki Wells to sell.
so they knew they were selling him.
kind of contradicts lawn saying they wanted him to stay and he forced them to sell!
obvious anyway because wells kept his mouth shut when lawn slagged him off.
maybe those who called him will apologise, doubtful.
Was anyone 'slagged-off' as you put it? Once a player indicates he wants to move, it's a matter of negotiating a deal. John Hendrie explained the situation very well.
Hendrie... should know all about leaving a club!!. After losing the play off against Boro threw his boots in his bag and announced "That's me off"!!....I wont divulge which player pinned him to a wall......BUT I bet you can guess!!
Nice one Shauny boy I've got some old news for you, Hendrie didn't play in that game he was suspended so unless he kept his boots with him all the time he wasn't playing I think its very unlikely he would have throw them at the wall ha ha !
Having said that I would never put Hendrie in the same category as Bobby and Stuart who were the real City legends.
[quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peter300[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: “We can’t afford to set another budget at £1m over what we can really afford. We could do that this year because we always knew we had Nahki Wells to sell. so they knew they were selling him. kind of contradicts lawn saying they wanted him to stay and he forced them to sell! obvious anyway because wells kept his mouth shut when lawn slagged him off. maybe those who called him will apologise, doubtful.[/p][/quote]Was anyone 'slagged-off' as you put it? Once a player indicates he wants to move, it's a matter of negotiating a deal. John Hendrie explained the situation very well.[/p][/quote]Hendrie... should know all about leaving a club!!. After losing the play off against Boro threw his boots in his bag and announced "That's me off"!!....I wont divulge which player pinned him to a wall......BUT I bet you can guess!![/p][/quote]Nice one Shauny boy I've got some old news for you, Hendrie didn't play in that game he was suspended so unless he kept his boots with him all the time he wasn't playing I think its very unlikely he would have throw them at the wall ha ha ! Having said that I would never put Hendrie in the same category as Bobby and Stuart who were the real City legends. wakefieldbantam
  • Score: 6

1:30pm Wed 5 Feb 14

whisky1 says...

shaun from richmond wrote:
whisky1 wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote:
Peter300 wrote:
tinytoonster wrote: “We can’t afford to set another budget at £1m over what we can really afford. We could do that this year because we always knew we had Nahki Wells to sell. so they knew they were selling him. kind of contradicts lawn saying they wanted him to stay and he forced them to sell! obvious anyway because wells kept his mouth shut when lawn slagged him off. maybe those who called him will apologise, doubtful.
Was anyone 'slagged-off' as you put it? Once a player indicates he wants to move, it's a matter of negotiating a deal. John Hendrie explained the situation very well.
Hendrie... should know all about leaving a club!!. After losing the play off against Boro threw his boots in his bag and announced "That's me off"!!....I wont divulge which player pinned him to a wall......BUT I bet you can guess!!
I Know JH professionally reasonably well and he is a grounded sensible guy with a great affinity to the club and fans. Mercenary he is not. As usual your posts are deluded and utterly conceited.
Hendrie is a Boro supporter who cant get " A Gig" at the Riverside... Not the most popular player among other Ex City players....and to have a Suite named after him is nothing but a JOKE!.
Wrong again JH supports Celtic ..he has a good relationship with both clubs
[quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peter300[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: “We can’t afford to set another budget at £1m over what we can really afford. We could do that this year because we always knew we had Nahki Wells to sell. so they knew they were selling him. kind of contradicts lawn saying they wanted him to stay and he forced them to sell! obvious anyway because wells kept his mouth shut when lawn slagged him off. maybe those who called him will apologise, doubtful.[/p][/quote]Was anyone 'slagged-off' as you put it? Once a player indicates he wants to move, it's a matter of negotiating a deal. John Hendrie explained the situation very well.[/p][/quote]Hendrie... should know all about leaving a club!!. After losing the play off against Boro threw his boots in his bag and announced "That's me off"!!....I wont divulge which player pinned him to a wall......BUT I bet you can guess!![/p][/quote]I Know JH professionally reasonably well and he is a grounded sensible guy with a great affinity to the club and fans. Mercenary he is not. As usual your posts are deluded and utterly conceited.[/p][/quote]Hendrie is a Boro supporter who cant get " A Gig" at the Riverside... Not the most popular player among other Ex City players....and to have a Suite named after him is nothing but a JOKE!.[/p][/quote]Wrong again JH supports Celtic ..he has a good relationship with both clubs whisky1
  • Score: 4

1:34pm Wed 5 Feb 14

SHOESMAKER24 says...

as above and it was always going to be a lot harder moving into league one , a lot of the teams have better players city have had to it the ground running come on city
as above and it was always going to be a lot harder moving into league one , a lot of the teams have better players city have had to it the ground running come on city SHOESMAKER24
  • Score: 2

1:37pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Peter300 says...

minkiebantam wrote:
Putting £50 on a season ticket (Which i would pay) puts £600,000 in the kitty. That would sort the budget problem out in 1 swoop!?
CTID!
You can still pay it! Why don't you?
[quote][p][bold]minkiebantam[/bold] wrote: Putting £50 on a season ticket (Which i would pay) puts £600,000 in the kitty. That would sort the budget problem out in 1 swoop!? CTID![/p][/quote]You can still pay it! Why don't you? Peter300
  • Score: 4

1:43pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Peter300 says...

birbir wrote:
Morning all. One thing I would do if we stay is up is remove Phil Parkinson. Some of you may disagree but really 1 win in 16/17 games is relegation form. Yes we have been hit by injuries but you just can't blame it on that.

The overall style of football and man management of certain players Parkinson has either brought in or let go is pretty grim. We cannot rest on the brilliant episodes of two wembley trips etc. The premise is to build upon that.

We only have 3 players in contract at the end of the season - for a professional club of the size of Bradford City that is pretty shocking!! Unless we have signed a whole new first team on pre-contract basis that I don't know about we are seriously in the mire.

The club needs to bring in a mix of youth and some experienced players for this league. A manager who plays football on the ground is not afraid to attack would be the first thing!! Parkinson is negative and a lot of games we could have won this season yet ended up as draws or losses. Losing to Notts County bottom of the league was shocking!!

Time to move this club forward with fresh new ideas and players that want to play for the club!!!
I know a good manager who would suit Bradford City very well. His name is Phil Parkinson. Anyway, whatever manager City have you are bound to be shocked on some occasions.
[quote][p][bold]birbir[/bold] wrote: Morning all. One thing I would do if we stay is up is remove Phil Parkinson. Some of you may disagree but really 1 win in 16/17 games is relegation form. Yes we have been hit by injuries but you just can't blame it on that. The overall style of football and man management of certain players Parkinson has either brought in or let go is pretty grim. We cannot rest on the brilliant episodes of two wembley trips etc. The premise is to build upon that. We only have 3 players in contract at the end of the season - for a professional club of the size of Bradford City that is pretty shocking!! Unless we have signed a whole new first team on pre-contract basis that I don't know about we are seriously in the mire. The club needs to bring in a mix of youth and some experienced players for this league. A manager who plays football on the ground is not afraid to attack would be the first thing!! Parkinson is negative and a lot of games we could have won this season yet ended up as draws or losses. Losing to Notts County bottom of the league was shocking!! Time to move this club forward with fresh new ideas and players that want to play for the club!!![/p][/quote]I know a good manager who would suit Bradford City very well. His name is Phil Parkinson. Anyway, whatever manager City have you are bound to be shocked on some occasions. Peter300
  • Score: 4

1:43pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Peter300 says...

birbir wrote:
Morning all. One thing I would do if we stay is up is remove Phil Parkinson. Some of you may disagree but really 1 win in 16/17 games is relegation form. Yes we have been hit by injuries but you just can't blame it on that.

The overall style of football and man management of certain players Parkinson has either brought in or let go is pretty grim. We cannot rest on the brilliant episodes of two wembley trips etc. The premise is to build upon that.

We only have 3 players in contract at the end of the season - for a professional club of the size of Bradford City that is pretty shocking!! Unless we have signed a whole new first team on pre-contract basis that I don't know about we are seriously in the mire.

The club needs to bring in a mix of youth and some experienced players for this league. A manager who plays football on the ground is not afraid to attack would be the first thing!! Parkinson is negative and a lot of games we could have won this season yet ended up as draws or losses. Losing to Notts County bottom of the league was shocking!!

Time to move this club forward with fresh new ideas and players that want to play for the club!!!
I know a good manager who would suit Bradford City very well. His name is Phil Parkinson. Anyway, whatever manager City have you are bound to be shocked on some occasions.
[quote][p][bold]birbir[/bold] wrote: Morning all. One thing I would do if we stay is up is remove Phil Parkinson. Some of you may disagree but really 1 win in 16/17 games is relegation form. Yes we have been hit by injuries but you just can't blame it on that. The overall style of football and man management of certain players Parkinson has either brought in or let go is pretty grim. We cannot rest on the brilliant episodes of two wembley trips etc. The premise is to build upon that. We only have 3 players in contract at the end of the season - for a professional club of the size of Bradford City that is pretty shocking!! Unless we have signed a whole new first team on pre-contract basis that I don't know about we are seriously in the mire. The club needs to bring in a mix of youth and some experienced players for this league. A manager who plays football on the ground is not afraid to attack would be the first thing!! Parkinson is negative and a lot of games we could have won this season yet ended up as draws or losses. Losing to Notts County bottom of the league was shocking!! Time to move this club forward with fresh new ideas and players that want to play for the club!!![/p][/quote]I know a good manager who would suit Bradford City very well. His name is Phil Parkinson. Anyway, whatever manager City have you are bound to be shocked on some occasions. Peter300
  • Score: 3

1:58pm Wed 5 Feb 14

shaun from richmond says...

whisky1 wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote:
whisky1 wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote:
Peter300 wrote:
tinytoonster wrote: “We can’t afford to set another budget at £1m over what we can really afford. We could do that this year because we always knew we had Nahki Wells to sell. so they knew they were selling him. kind of contradicts lawn saying they wanted him to stay and he forced them to sell! obvious anyway because wells kept his mouth shut when lawn slagged him off. maybe those who called him will apologise, doubtful.
Was anyone 'slagged-off' as you put it? Once a player indicates he wants to move, it's a matter of negotiating a deal. John Hendrie explained the situation very well.
Hendrie... should know all about leaving a club!!. After losing the play off against Boro threw his boots in his bag and announced "That's me off"!!....I wont divulge which player pinned him to a wall......BUT I bet you can guess!!
I Know JH professionally reasonably well and he is a grounded sensible guy with a great affinity to the club and fans. Mercenary he is not. As usual your posts are deluded and utterly conceited.
Hendrie is a Boro supporter who cant get " A Gig" at the Riverside... Not the most popular player among other Ex City players....and to have a Suite named after him is nothing but a JOKE!.
Wrong again JH supports Celtic ..he has a good relationship with both clubs
YES...Boro and Celtic!
[quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peter300[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: “We can’t afford to set another budget at £1m over what we can really afford. We could do that this year because we always knew we had Nahki Wells to sell. so they knew they were selling him. kind of contradicts lawn saying they wanted him to stay and he forced them to sell! obvious anyway because wells kept his mouth shut when lawn slagged him off. maybe those who called him will apologise, doubtful.[/p][/quote]Was anyone 'slagged-off' as you put it? Once a player indicates he wants to move, it's a matter of negotiating a deal. John Hendrie explained the situation very well.[/p][/quote]Hendrie... should know all about leaving a club!!. After losing the play off against Boro threw his boots in his bag and announced "That's me off"!!....I wont divulge which player pinned him to a wall......BUT I bet you can guess!![/p][/quote]I Know JH professionally reasonably well and he is a grounded sensible guy with a great affinity to the club and fans. Mercenary he is not. As usual your posts are deluded and utterly conceited.[/p][/quote]Hendrie is a Boro supporter who cant get " A Gig" at the Riverside... Not the most popular player among other Ex City players....and to have a Suite named after him is nothing but a JOKE!.[/p][/quote]Wrong again JH supports Celtic ..he has a good relationship with both clubs[/p][/quote]YES...Boro and Celtic! shaun from richmond
  • Score: -6

2:00pm Wed 5 Feb 14

bazzathetyke says...

Farsley Bantam wrote:
On a totally seperate issue- Anyone else enjoying the Elland Road debacle?
No, I'm too busy enjoying the Valley Parade debacle!...When do You think Your lot will win a match...?
[quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: On a totally seperate issue- Anyone else enjoying the Elland Road debacle?[/p][/quote]No, I'm too busy enjoying the Valley Parade debacle!...When do You think Your lot will win a match...? bazzathetyke
  • Score: -6

2:06pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Farsley Bantam says...

whisky1 wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote:
whisky1 wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote:
Peter300 wrote:
tinytoonster wrote: “We can’t afford to set another budget at £1m over what we can really afford. We could do that this year because we always knew we had Nahki Wells to sell. so they knew they were selling him. kind of contradicts lawn saying they wanted him to stay and he forced them to sell! obvious anyway because wells kept his mouth shut when lawn slagged him off. maybe those who called him will apologise, doubtful.
Was anyone 'slagged-off' as you put it? Once a player indicates he wants to move, it's a matter of negotiating a deal. John Hendrie explained the situation very well.
Hendrie... should know all about leaving a club!!. After losing the play off against Boro threw his boots in his bag and announced "That's me off"!!....I wont divulge which player pinned him to a wall......BUT I bet you can guess!!
I Know JH professionally reasonably well and he is a grounded sensible guy with a great affinity to the club and fans. Mercenary he is not. As usual your posts are deluded and utterly conceited.
Hendrie is a Boro supporter who cant get " A Gig" at the Riverside... Not the most popular player among other Ex City players....and to have a Suite named after him is nothing but a JOKE!.
Wrong again JH supports Celtic ..he has a good relationship with both clubs
Shaun will only be happy when Peter Jackson is player/manager and we are playing at the Peter Jackson Stadium.
[quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peter300[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: “We can’t afford to set another budget at £1m over what we can really afford. We could do that this year because we always knew we had Nahki Wells to sell. so they knew they were selling him. kind of contradicts lawn saying they wanted him to stay and he forced them to sell! obvious anyway because wells kept his mouth shut when lawn slagged him off. maybe those who called him will apologise, doubtful.[/p][/quote]Was anyone 'slagged-off' as you put it? Once a player indicates he wants to move, it's a matter of negotiating a deal. John Hendrie explained the situation very well.[/p][/quote]Hendrie... should know all about leaving a club!!. After losing the play off against Boro threw his boots in his bag and announced "That's me off"!!....I wont divulge which player pinned him to a wall......BUT I bet you can guess!![/p][/quote]I Know JH professionally reasonably well and he is a grounded sensible guy with a great affinity to the club and fans. Mercenary he is not. As usual your posts are deluded and utterly conceited.[/p][/quote]Hendrie is a Boro supporter who cant get " A Gig" at the Riverside... Not the most popular player among other Ex City players....and to have a Suite named after him is nothing but a JOKE!.[/p][/quote]Wrong again JH supports Celtic ..he has a good relationship with both clubs[/p][/quote]Shaun will only be happy when Peter Jackson is player/manager and we are playing at the Peter Jackson Stadium. Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 7

2:07pm Wed 5 Feb 14

whisky1 says...

shaun from richmond wrote:
whisky1 wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote:
whisky1 wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote:
Peter300 wrote:
tinytoonster wrote: “We can’t afford to set another budget at £1m over what we can really afford. We could do that this year because we always knew we had Nahki Wells to sell. so they knew they were selling him. kind of contradicts lawn saying they wanted him to stay and he forced them to sell! obvious anyway because wells kept his mouth shut when lawn slagged him off. maybe those who called him will apologise, doubtful.
Was anyone 'slagged-off' as you put it? Once a player indicates he wants to move, it's a matter of negotiating a deal. John Hendrie explained the situation very well.
Hendrie... should know all about leaving a club!!. After losing the play off against Boro threw his boots in his bag and announced "That's me off"!!....I wont divulge which player pinned him to a wall......BUT I bet you can guess!!
I Know JH professionally reasonably well and he is a grounded sensible guy with a great affinity to the club and fans. Mercenary he is not. As usual your posts are deluded and utterly conceited.
Hendrie is a Boro supporter who cant get " A Gig" at the Riverside... Not the most popular player among other Ex City players....and to have a Suite named after him is nothing but a JOKE!.
Wrong again JH supports Celtic ..he has a good relationship with both clubs
YES...Boro and Celtic!
He also gets on very well with the 80s team and sees that period as his favourite time as a player. I am not sure what sort of vindictive warped pleasure you get coming on here slagging off the club and former players without anything to back it up in terms of knowledge and experience however it sure is sad.
[quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peter300[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: “We can’t afford to set another budget at £1m over what we can really afford. We could do that this year because we always knew we had Nahki Wells to sell. so they knew they were selling him. kind of contradicts lawn saying they wanted him to stay and he forced them to sell! obvious anyway because wells kept his mouth shut when lawn slagged him off. maybe those who called him will apologise, doubtful.[/p][/quote]Was anyone 'slagged-off' as you put it? Once a player indicates he wants to move, it's a matter of negotiating a deal. John Hendrie explained the situation very well.[/p][/quote]Hendrie... should know all about leaving a club!!. After losing the play off against Boro threw his boots in his bag and announced "That's me off"!!....I wont divulge which player pinned him to a wall......BUT I bet you can guess!![/p][/quote]I Know JH professionally reasonably well and he is a grounded sensible guy with a great affinity to the club and fans. Mercenary he is not. As usual your posts are deluded and utterly conceited.[/p][/quote]Hendrie is a Boro supporter who cant get " A Gig" at the Riverside... Not the most popular player among other Ex City players....and to have a Suite named after him is nothing but a JOKE!.[/p][/quote]Wrong again JH supports Celtic ..he has a good relationship with both clubs[/p][/quote]YES...Boro and Celtic![/p][/quote]He also gets on very well with the 80s team and sees that period as his favourite time as a player. I am not sure what sort of vindictive warped pleasure you get coming on here slagging off the club and former players without anything to back it up in terms of knowledge and experience however it sure is sad. whisky1
  • Score: 6

2:13pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Farsley Bantam says...

bazzathetyke wrote:
Farsley Bantam wrote: On a totally seperate issue- Anyone else enjoying the Elland Road debacle?
No, I'm too busy enjoying the Valley Parade debacle!...When do You think Your lot will win a match...?
If you can call financially sound and mid table a debacle then I'm glad your enjoying it.
I think we'll get a win on Saturday. When do you think you'll go into administration and how many points will you get deducted?
[quote][p][bold]bazzathetyke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: On a totally seperate issue- Anyone else enjoying the Elland Road debacle?[/p][/quote]No, I'm too busy enjoying the Valley Parade debacle!...When do You think Your lot will win a match...?[/p][/quote]If you can call financially sound and mid table a debacle then I'm glad your enjoying it. I think we'll get a win on Saturday. When do you think you'll go into administration and how many points will you get deducted? Farsley Bantam
  • Score: 8

2:20pm Wed 5 Feb 14

shaun from richmond says...

Farsley Bantam wrote:
whisky1 wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote:
whisky1 wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote:
Peter300 wrote:
tinytoonster wrote: “We can’t afford to set another budget at £1m over what we can really afford. We could do that this year because we always knew we had Nahki Wells to sell. so they knew they were selling him. kind of contradicts lawn saying they wanted him to stay and he forced them to sell! obvious anyway because wells kept his mouth shut when lawn slagged him off. maybe those who called him will apologise, doubtful.
Was anyone 'slagged-off' as you put it? Once a player indicates he wants to move, it's a matter of negotiating a deal. John Hendrie explained the situation very well.
Hendrie... should know all about leaving a club!!. After losing the play off against Boro threw his boots in his bag and announced "That's me off"!!....I wont divulge which player pinned him to a wall......BUT I bet you can guess!!
I Know JH professionally reasonably well and he is a grounded sensible guy with a great affinity to the club and fans. Mercenary he is not. As usual your posts are deluded and utterly conceited.
Hendrie is a Boro supporter who cant get " A Gig" at the Riverside... Not the most popular player among other Ex City players....and to have a Suite named after him is nothing but a JOKE!.
Wrong again JH supports Celtic ..he has a good relationship with both clubs
Shaun will only be happy when Peter Jackson is player/manager and we are playing at the Peter Jackson Stadium.
NOW YOUR TALKING!!
[quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peter300[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: “We can’t afford to set another budget at £1m over what we can really afford. We could do that this year because we always knew we had Nahki Wells to sell. so they knew they were selling him. kind of contradicts lawn saying they wanted him to stay and he forced them to sell! obvious anyway because wells kept his mouth shut when lawn slagged him off. maybe those who called him will apologise, doubtful.[/p][/quote]Was anyone 'slagged-off' as you put it? Once a player indicates he wants to move, it's a matter of negotiating a deal. John Hendrie explained the situation very well.[/p][/quote]Hendrie... should know all about leaving a club!!. After losing the play off against Boro threw his boots in his bag and announced "That's me off"!!....I wont divulge which player pinned him to a wall......BUT I bet you can guess!![/p][/quote]I Know JH professionally reasonably well and he is a grounded sensible guy with a great affinity to the club and fans. Mercenary he is not. As usual your posts are deluded and utterly conceited.[/p][/quote]Hendrie is a Boro supporter who cant get " A Gig" at the Riverside... Not the most popular player among other Ex City players....and to have a Suite named after him is nothing but a JOKE!.[/p][/quote]Wrong again JH supports Celtic ..he has a good relationship with both clubs[/p][/quote]Shaun will only be happy when Peter Jackson is player/manager and we are playing at the Peter Jackson Stadium.[/p][/quote]NOW YOUR TALKING!! shaun from richmond
  • Score: -4

2:24pm Wed 5 Feb 14

shaun from richmond says...

whisky1 wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote:
whisky1 wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote:
whisky1 wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote:
Peter300 wrote:
tinytoonster wrote: “We can’t afford to set another budget at £1m over what we can really afford. We could do that this year because we always knew we had Nahki Wells to sell. so they knew they were selling him. kind of contradicts lawn saying they wanted him to stay and he forced them to sell! obvious anyway because wells kept his mouth shut when lawn slagged him off. maybe those who called him will apologise, doubtful.
Was anyone 'slagged-off' as you put it? Once a player indicates he wants to move, it's a matter of negotiating a deal. John Hendrie explained the situation very well.
Hendrie... should know all about leaving a club!!. After losing the play off against Boro threw his boots in his bag and announced "That's me off"!!....I wont divulge which player pinned him to a wall......BUT I bet you can guess!!
I Know JH professionally reasonably well and he is a grounded sensible guy with a great affinity to the club and fans. Mercenary he is not. As usual your posts are deluded and utterly conceited.
Hendrie is a Boro supporter who cant get " A Gig" at the Riverside... Not the most popular player among other Ex City players....and to have a Suite named after him is nothing but a JOKE!.
Wrong again JH supports Celtic ..he has a good relationship with both clubs
YES...Boro and Celtic!
He also gets on very well with the 80s team and sees that period as his favourite time as a player. I am not sure what sort of vindictive warped pleasure you get coming on here slagging off the club and former players without anything to back it up in terms of knowledge and experience however it sure is sad.
Not slagging anyone off!. Hendrie loves Boro.....whats wrong with that?
[quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peter300[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: “We can’t afford to set another budget at £1m over what we can really afford. We could do that this year because we always knew we had Nahki Wells to sell. so they knew they were selling him. kind of contradicts lawn saying they wanted him to stay and he forced them to sell! obvious anyway because wells kept his mouth shut when lawn slagged him off. maybe those who called him will apologise, doubtful.[/p][/quote]Was anyone 'slagged-off' as you put it? Once a player indicates he wants to move, it's a matter of negotiating a deal. John Hendrie explained the situation very well.[/p][/quote]Hendrie... should know all about leaving a club!!. After losing the play off against Boro threw his boots in his bag and announced "That's me off"!!....I wont divulge which player pinned him to a wall......BUT I bet you can guess!![/p][/quote]I Know JH professionally reasonably well and he is a grounded sensible guy with a great affinity to the club and fans. Mercenary he is not. As usual your posts are deluded and utterly conceited.[/p][/quote]Hendrie is a Boro supporter who cant get " A Gig" at the Riverside... Not the most popular player among other Ex City players....and to have a Suite named after him is nothing but a JOKE!.[/p][/quote]Wrong again JH supports Celtic ..he has a good relationship with both clubs[/p][/quote]YES...Boro and Celtic![/p][/quote]He also gets on very well with the 80s team and sees that period as his favourite time as a player. I am not sure what sort of vindictive warped pleasure you get coming on here slagging off the club and former players without anything to back it up in terms of knowledge and experience however it sure is sad.[/p][/quote]Not slagging anyone off!. Hendrie loves Boro.....whats wrong with that? shaun from richmond
  • Score: -7

2:27pm Wed 5 Feb 14

whisky1 says...

shaun from richmond wrote:
whisky1 wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote:
whisky1 wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote:
whisky1 wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote:
Peter300 wrote:
tinytoonster wrote: “We can’t afford to set another budget at £1m over what we can really afford. We could do that this year because we always knew we had Nahki Wells to sell. so they knew they were selling him. kind of contradicts lawn saying they wanted him to stay and he forced them to sell! obvious anyway because wells kept his mouth shut when lawn slagged him off. maybe those who called him will apologise, doubtful.
Was anyone 'slagged-off' as you put it? Once a player indicates he wants to move, it's a matter of negotiating a deal. John Hendrie explained the situation very well.
Hendrie... should know all about leaving a club!!. After losing the play off against Boro threw his boots in his bag and announced "That's me off"!!....I wont divulge which player pinned him to a wall......BUT I bet you can guess!!
I Know JH professionally reasonably well and he is a grounded sensible guy with a great affinity to the club and fans. Mercenary he is not. As usual your posts are deluded and utterly conceited.
Hendrie is a Boro supporter who cant get " A Gig" at the Riverside... Not the most popular player among other Ex City players....and to have a Suite named after him is nothing but a JOKE!.
Wrong again JH supports Celtic ..he has a good relationship with both clubs
YES...Boro and Celtic!
He also gets on very well with the 80s team and sees that period as his favourite time as a player. I am not sure what sort of vindictive warped pleasure you get coming on here slagging off the club and former players without anything to back it up in terms of knowledge and experience however it sure is sad.
Not slagging anyone off!. Hendrie loves Boro.....whats wrong with that?
read your posts dimwit and stroll on
[quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peter300[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: “We can’t afford to set another budget at £1m over what we can really afford. We could do that this year because we always knew we had Nahki Wells to sell. so they knew they were selling him. kind of contradicts lawn saying they wanted him to stay and he forced them to sell! obvious anyway because wells kept his mouth shut when lawn slagged him off. maybe those who called him will apologise, doubtful.[/p][/quote]Was anyone 'slagged-off' as you put it? Once a player indicates he wants to move, it's a matter of negotiating a deal. John Hendrie explained the situation very well.[/p][/quote]Hendrie... should know all about leaving a club!!. After losing the play off against Boro threw his boots in his bag and announced "That's me off"!!....I wont divulge which player pinned him to a wall......BUT I bet you can guess!![/p][/quote]I Know JH professionally reasonably well and he is a grounded sensible guy with a great affinity to the club and fans. Mercenary he is not. As usual your posts are deluded and utterly conceited.[/p][/quote]Hendrie is a Boro supporter who cant get " A Gig" at the Riverside... Not the most popular player among other Ex City players....and to have a Suite named after him is nothing but a JOKE!.[/p][/quote]Wrong again JH supports Celtic ..he has a good relationship with both clubs[/p][/quote]YES...Boro and Celtic![/p][/quote]He also gets on very well with the 80s team and sees that period as his favourite time as a player. I am not sure what sort of vindictive warped pleasure you get coming on here slagging off the club and former players without anything to back it up in terms of knowledge and experience however it sure is sad.[/p][/quote]Not slagging anyone off!. Hendrie loves Boro.....whats wrong with that?[/p][/quote]read your posts dimwit and stroll on whisky1
  • Score: 3

2:40pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Waynus1971 says...

Peter300 wrote:
Cityman23 wrote:
I might be in a minority but I don't want City to go 'over budget' in their spending. I believe they should be sticking within budget.

Too many teams STILL haven't learnt the lesson and having been close to nearly going out of existance twice City should have learnt theirs!!

Up and down the country clubs are STILL getting into financial difficulties-Leeds, Rangers..and many have ALREADY nearly gone bust!! It's crazy.

I say, live withn your means City. Bring on young talent rather than buying players. Don't pay wages you can't afford. Charge a fair price for season tickets and match day admission.

Yes, promotion would be great but most of all the fans want their team in existence!!
I think City have learnt their lesson. You will see that the vast majority of fans on here and across football generally are in favour of spending money buying players. You cannot fail to notice the outcry when this does not happen. So, you need to convince these people that your way is the correct one. Best of luck!
You are wrong Peter. What Rhodes is suggesting simply makes no sense. Yes, we set budgets larger than our income allowed recently, but we had assets such as Green and Wells. When does this stop? Is McBurnie the next "quick-fix" by the club, to cover next season's deficit?

The majority of people suggested increasing adult season ticket prices by £30-£50 but Baldwin claims this may have an adverse reaction. His solution is to keep prices as is, decrease next season's budget and still end up with a deficit that means we would need to see at some point in the near future....! How will any City fan be happy with this????
[quote][p][bold]Peter300[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cityman23[/bold] wrote: I might be in a minority but I don't want City to go 'over budget' in their spending. I believe they should be sticking within budget. Too many teams STILL haven't learnt the lesson and having been close to nearly going out of existance twice City should have learnt theirs!! Up and down the country clubs are STILL getting into financial difficulties-Leeds, Rangers..and many have ALREADY nearly gone bust!! It's crazy. I say, live withn your means City. Bring on young talent rather than buying players. Don't pay wages you can't afford. Charge a fair price for season tickets and match day admission. Yes, promotion would be great but most of all the fans want their team in existence!![/p][/quote]I think City have learnt their lesson. You will see that the vast majority of fans on here and across football generally are in favour of spending money buying players. You cannot fail to notice the outcry when this does not happen. So, you need to convince these people that your way is the correct one. Best of luck![/p][/quote]You are wrong Peter. What Rhodes is suggesting simply makes no sense. Yes, we set budgets larger than our income allowed recently, but we had assets such as Green and Wells. When does this stop? Is McBurnie the next "quick-fix" by the club, to cover next season's deficit? The majority of people suggested increasing adult season ticket prices by £30-£50 but Baldwin claims this may have an adverse reaction. His solution is to keep prices as is, decrease next season's budget and still end up with a deficit that means we would need to see at some point in the near future....! How will any City fan be happy with this???? Waynus1971
  • Score: -4

2:49pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Waynus1971 says...

Peter300 wrote:
stiflers mom wrote:
notpoliticallycorrec


t
wrote:
So the supporters of the £200 season tickets get their wish. Surely a £30-£50 rise would have helped with the player budget?

The thing is, nobody really knows how many will renew? If we don't start winning soon I recon we could drop the 2,000 season ticket holders that the cheap prices were kept on to attract.

That would then look folly, I certainly don't want the club to get into financial trouble again and would rather see us cover the deficit through higher prices and better product.

At the end if the day it's either your club or it's not and to be fair, the moaners who complain about paying £10 a game over a season quickly found a couple of hundred quid for a day out or two at Wembley.
If you or any other supporters think that season tickets are too cheap,there is nothing to to stop you donating extra money to the club.
Exactly. So the club can expect quite a lot of extra cash with all these people anxious to tell me that the tickets are too cheap. If David Baldwin reads these message boards he will be quite pleased. Maybe he should take a note of their names and make sure they put their money where their mouth is.
The problem with this is the "follower" syndrome. Yes, many of us would be happy to pay an extra £50, but unless most agree, it then becomes a "why should I pay more if Joe Bloggs can't be bothered" attitude. Then, instead of getting several thousands giving an extra £50, you instead only get a couple of hundred, which defeats the object.

Perhaps a 2 price policy could have been considered? Selected seats in the Lower tier of Kop/NW corner/Bradford End charged at the current price of £199, but the better seats in the Main Stand, upper tiers, Midland Rd, etc charged at £249 for adults?
[quote][p][bold]Peter300[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stiflers mom[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notpoliticallycorrec t[/bold] wrote: So the supporters of the £200 season tickets get their wish. Surely a £30-£50 rise would have helped with the player budget? The thing is, nobody really knows how many will renew? If we don't start winning soon I recon we could drop the 2,000 season ticket holders that the cheap prices were kept on to attract. That would then look folly, I certainly don't want the club to get into financial trouble again and would rather see us cover the deficit through higher prices and better product. At the end if the day it's either your club or it's not and to be fair, the moaners who complain about paying £10 a game over a season quickly found a couple of hundred quid for a day out or two at Wembley.[/p][/quote]If you or any other supporters think that season tickets are too cheap,there is nothing to to stop you donating extra money to the club.[/p][/quote]Exactly. So the club can expect quite a lot of extra cash with all these people anxious to tell me that the tickets are too cheap. If David Baldwin reads these message boards he will be quite pleased. Maybe he should take a note of their names and make sure they put their money where their mouth is.[/p][/quote]The problem with this is the "follower" syndrome. Yes, many of us would be happy to pay an extra £50, but unless most agree, it then becomes a "why should I pay more if Joe Bloggs can't be bothered" attitude. Then, instead of getting several thousands giving an extra £50, you instead only get a couple of hundred, which defeats the object. Perhaps a 2 price policy could have been considered? Selected seats in the Lower tier of Kop/NW corner/Bradford End charged at the current price of £199, but the better seats in the Main Stand, upper tiers, Midland Rd, etc charged at £249 for adults? Waynus1971
  • Score: 3

3:01pm Wed 5 Feb 14

shaun from richmond says...

whisky1 wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote:
whisky1 wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote:
whisky1 wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote:
whisky1 wrote:
shaun from richmond wrote:
Peter300 wrote:
tinytoonster wrote: “We can’t afford to set another budget at £1m over what we can really afford. We could do that this year because we always knew we had Nahki Wells to sell. so they knew they were selling him. kind of contradicts lawn saying they wanted him to stay and he forced them to sell! obvious anyway because wells kept his mouth shut when lawn slagged him off. maybe those who called him will apologise, doubtful.
Was anyone 'slagged-off' as you put it? Once a player indicates he wants to move, it's a matter of negotiating a deal. John Hendrie explained the situation very well.
Hendrie... should know all about leaving a club!!. After losing the play off against Boro threw his boots in his bag and announced "That's me off"!!....I wont divulge which player pinned him to a wall......BUT I bet you can guess!!
I Know JH professionally reasonably well and he is a grounded sensible guy with a great affinity to the club and fans. Mercenary he is not. As usual your posts are deluded and utterly conceited.
Hendrie is a Boro supporter who cant get " A Gig" at the Riverside... Not the most popular player among other Ex City players....and to have a Suite named after him is nothing but a JOKE!.
Wrong again JH supports Celtic ..he has a good relationship with both clubs
YES...Boro and Celtic!
He also gets on very well with the 80s team and sees that period as his favourite time as a player. I am not sure what sort of vindictive warped pleasure you get coming on here slagging off the club and former players without anything to back it up in terms of knowledge and experience however it sure is sad.
Not slagging anyone off!. Hendrie loves Boro.....whats wrong with that?
read your posts dimwit and stroll on
Only one person being offensive....THATS YOU!!.
Dont forget to use a tissue for that "Brown Nose" of yours!!
[quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whisky1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaun from richmond[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peter300[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: “We can’t afford to set another budget at £1m over what we can really afford. We could do that this year because we always knew we had Nahki Wells to sell. so they knew they were selling him. kind of contradicts lawn saying they wanted him to stay and he forced them to sell! obvious anyway because wells kept his mouth shut when lawn slagged him off. maybe those who called him will apologise, doubtful.[/p][/quote]Was anyone 'slagged-off' as you put it? Once a player indicates he wants to move, it's a matter of negotiating a deal. John Hendrie explained the situation very well.[/p][/quote]Hendrie... should know all about leaving a club!!. After losing the play off against Boro threw his boots in his bag and announced "That's me off"!!....I wont divulge which player pinned him to a wall......BUT I bet you can guess!![/p][/quote]I Know JH professionally reasonably well and he is a grounded sensible guy with a great affinity to the club and fans. Mercenary he is not. As usual your posts are deluded and utterly conceited.[/p][/quote]Hendrie is a Boro supporter who cant get " A Gig" at the Riverside... Not the most popular player among other Ex City players....and to have a Suite named after him is nothing but a JOKE!.[/p][/quote]Wrong again JH supports Celtic ..he has a good relationship with both clubs[/p][/quote]YES...Boro and Celtic![/p][/quote]He also gets on very well with the 80s team and sees that period as his favourite time as a player. I am not sure what sort of vindictive warped pleasure you get coming on here slagging off the club and former players without anything to back it up in terms of knowledge and experience however it sure is sad.[/p][/quote]Not slagging anyone off!. Hendrie loves Boro.....whats wrong with that?[/p][/quote]read your posts dimwit and stroll on[/p][/quote]Only one person being offensive....THATS YOU!!. Dont forget to use a tissue for that "Brown Nose" of yours!! shaun from richmond
  • Score: -3

3:25pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Belfast Bantam says...

Farsley Bantam wrote:
On a totally seperate issue- Anyone else enjoying the Elland Road debacle?
Beeston in turmoil...Loving it!!!
[quote][p][bold]Farsley Bantam[/bold] wrote: On a totally seperate issue- Anyone else enjoying the Elland Road debacle?[/p][/quote]Beeston in turmoil...Loving it!!! Belfast Bantam
  • Score: 3

4:08pm Wed 5 Feb 14

audal says...

When you lot have finished schoolboy insults there is a matter of a game against a club with the worst away record bar two on Sat. I hate watching City being put under pressure by teams in the bottom six whilst we "attack" with one man upfront , so if we fail to beat Crewe then the managers skills(?) should be brought into the equation. 'nuff said.
When you lot have finished schoolboy insults there is a matter of a game against a club with the worst away record bar two on Sat. I hate watching City being put under pressure by teams in the bottom six whilst we "attack" with one man upfront , so if we fail to beat Crewe then the managers skills(?) should be brought into the equation. 'nuff said. audal
  • Score: -3

4:15pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Olivermac says...

stiflers mom wrote:
notpoliticallycorrec

t
wrote:
So the supporters of the £200 season tickets get their wish. Surely a £30-£50 rise would have helped with the player budget?

The thing is, nobody really knows how many will renew? If we don't start winning soon I recon we could drop the 2,000 season ticket holders that the cheap prices were kept on to attract.

That would then look folly, I certainly don't want the club to get into financial trouble again and would rather see us cover the deficit through higher prices and better product.

At the end if the day it's either your club or it's not and to be fair, the moaners who complain about paying £10 a game over a season quickly found a couple of hundred quid for a day out or two at Wembley.
If you or any other supporters think that season tickets are too cheap,there is nothing to to stop you donating extra money to the club.
Yes I agree if someone feels that the tickets are to cheap donate the differance, just note that the reason for the upturn in support to the tune of 13,000 every home game is not just the Wembley run we had last year but the prices are what the Bradfordordians can afford and I think the club have got it spot on not to increase the prices to keep 13,000 plus supporting every home game.
[quote][p][bold]stiflers mom[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notpoliticallycorrec t[/bold] wrote: So the supporters of the £200 season tickets get their wish. Surely a £30-£50 rise would have helped with the player budget? The thing is, nobody really knows how many will renew? If we don't start winning soon I recon we could drop the 2,000 season ticket holders that the cheap prices were kept on to attract. That would then look folly, I certainly don't want the club to get into financial trouble again and would rather see us cover the deficit through higher prices and better product. At the end if the day it's either your club or it's not and to be fair, the moaners who complain about paying £10 a game over a season quickly found a couple of hundred quid for a day out or two at Wembley.[/p][/quote]If you or any other supporters think that season tickets are too cheap,there is nothing to to stop you donating extra money to the club.[/p][/quote]Yes I agree if someone feels that the tickets are to cheap donate the differance, just note that the reason for the upturn in support to the tune of 13,000 every home game is not just the Wembley run we had last year but the prices are what the Bradfordordians can afford and I think the club have got it spot on not to increase the prices to keep 13,000 plus supporting every home game. Olivermac
  • Score: 3

5:23pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Waynus1971 says...

Olivermac wrote:
stiflers mom wrote:
notpoliticallycorrec


t
wrote:
So the supporters of the £200 season tickets get their wish. Surely a £30-£50 rise would have helped with the player budget?

The thing is, nobody really knows how many will renew? If we don't start winning soon I recon we could drop the 2,000 season ticket holders that the cheap prices were kept on to attract.

That would then look folly, I certainly don't want the club to get into financial trouble again and would rather see us cover the deficit through higher prices and better product.

At the end if the day it's either your club or it's not and to be fair, the moaners who complain about paying £10 a game over a season quickly found a couple of hundred quid for a day out or two at Wembley.
If you or any other supporters think that season tickets are too cheap,there is nothing to to stop you donating extra money to the club.
Yes I agree if someone feels that the tickets are to cheap donate the differance, just note that the reason for the upturn in support to the tune of 13,000 every home game is not just the Wembley run we had last year but the prices are what the Bradfordordians can afford and I think the club have got it spot on not to increase the prices to keep 13,000 plus supporting every home game.
But the 13000 won't keep going if we don't get some success on the pitch. By reducing budgets in a very tough league, are we saying we are happy to stay mid-table? Fans won't stay with us if we don't stay competitive. The natives are already grumbling..!

We can't continue with this boom and bust or boom and asset strip for much longer. Prices should reflect this. There's no point in a few hundred of us paying an extra £50 if the rest don't follow suit!
[quote][p][bold]Olivermac[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stiflers mom[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notpoliticallycorrec t[/bold] wrote: So the supporters of the £200 season tickets get their wish. Surely a £30-£50 rise would have helped with the player budget? The thing is, nobody really knows how many will renew? If we don't start winning soon I recon we could drop the 2,000 season ticket holders that the cheap prices were kept on to attract. That would then look folly, I certainly don't want the club to get into financial trouble again and would rather see us cover the deficit through higher prices and better product. At the end if the day it's either your club or it's not and to be fair, the moaners who complain about paying £10 a game over a season quickly found a couple of hundred quid for a day out or two at Wembley.[/p][/quote]If you or any other supporters think that season tickets are too cheap,there is nothing to to stop you donating extra money to the club.[/p][/quote]Yes I agree if someone feels that the tickets are to cheap donate the differance, just note that the reason for the upturn in support to the tune of 13,000 every home game is not just the Wembley run we had last year but the prices are what the Bradfordordians can afford and I think the club have got it spot on not to increase the prices to keep 13,000 plus supporting every home game.[/p][/quote]But the 13000 won't keep going if we don't get some success on the pitch. By reducing budgets in a very tough league, are we saying we are happy to stay mid-table? Fans won't stay with us if we don't stay competitive. The natives are already grumbling..! We can't continue with this boom and bust or boom and asset strip for much longer. Prices should reflect this. There's no point in a few hundred of us paying an extra £50 if the rest don't follow suit! Waynus1971
  • Score: 1

5:39pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Michael Clayton says...

Aside from the various spats (as above) there is another issue in raising the price of season tickets; I am referring to Flexi-Cards.

There are so many permutations depending on how many games an FC holder attends. However, my 'maths' tells me that an increase in ST (from £199) to any price in the region of £250 will broadly correlate with an FC holder trying to attend the majority of fixtures.

This creates problems.

(1) If it as expensive to buy a season ticket as it is to buy a Flexi-card (and pay match by match) there is a disincentive to buy a season ticket and an incentive to pay £50.00 on a flexi card. Thus, there is reduced income pre-season.
(2) Extending (1), if things are not going well, a percentage of those flexi-card holders (who may have bought a season ticket at £199) will not turn up. This is the nightmare scenario as the club (at that point) would be relying on attendance in order to recoup the lost season ticket income and that is before any additional cash-flow could even be considered.
That would be madness on the part of the club.

In the mean time, anyone who complains about the cheapness of the pricing structure, get your hands in your pockets, put your money where your mouth is and pay up. If you wait until such time as you are obliged to pay an increase, then you are nothing short of a hypocrite.
Aside from the various spats (as above) there is another issue in raising the price of season tickets; I am referring to Flexi-Cards. There are so many permutations depending on how many games an FC holder attends. However, my 'maths' tells me that an increase in ST (from £199) to any price in the region of £250 will broadly correlate with an FC holder trying to attend the majority of fixtures. This creates problems. (1) If it as expensive to buy a season ticket as it is to buy a Flexi-card (and pay match by match) there is a disincentive to buy a season ticket and an incentive to pay £50.00 on a flexi card. Thus, there is reduced income pre-season. (2) Extending (1), if things are not going well, a percentage of those flexi-card holders (who may have bought a season ticket at £199) will not turn up. This is the nightmare scenario as the club (at that point) would be relying on attendance in order to recoup the lost season ticket income and that is before any additional cash-flow could even be considered. That would be madness on the part of the club. In the mean time, anyone who complains about the cheapness of the pricing structure, get your hands in your pockets, put your money where your mouth is and pay up. If you wait until such time as you are obliged to pay an increase, then you are nothing short of a hypocrite. Michael Clayton
  • Score: 2

5:59pm Wed 5 Feb 14

gordon ramsay says...

i am struggling with the notion that we "pushed the boat out THIS year".... ????

we did what has been well documented in that we gave the League 2 team a chance to impress... complimented at least initially by some bizarre short term signings who hardly played between them. wasted budget on the likes of nelson, gray, folan, taylor, kennedy, de vita.

i am failing to see any boat pushing, especially combined with the wembley trips and the sale of wells.

on a more positive note i do like the look of the new loan signings. a much needed and belated freshening up of a very tired team

sport, like many things, is about evolution... stand still and you get over taken. we stood still too long.

onwards and upwards and firmly believe we will get 3 points on saturday and can see mclean getting off the mark!!
i am struggling with the notion that we "pushed the boat out THIS year".... ???? we did what has been well documented in that we gave the League 2 team a chance to impress... complimented at least initially by some bizarre short term signings who hardly played between them. wasted budget on the likes of nelson, gray, folan, taylor, kennedy, de vita. i am failing to see any boat pushing, especially combined with the wembley trips and the sale of wells. on a more positive note i do like the look of the new loan signings. a much needed and belated freshening up of a very tired team sport, like many things, is about evolution... stand still and you get over taken. we stood still too long. onwards and upwards and firmly believe we will get 3 points on saturday and can see mclean getting off the mark!! gordon ramsay
  • Score: 2

5:59pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Danger Mouse Bantam says...

GenieBantam wrote:
I wouldnt mind paying an extra £50 for my season ticket. Is there anything in the FA rules that say you cant make a donation to the club?

If not then I would book my ticket online as usual £199 and then make a separate donation. If a couple of thousand or more do the same then that would boost the budget somewhat.
If that is something you want to do. Why not purchase a flexi ticket to take mates or family that wouldn't normally go? This way you are putting money into the club and so are those that would be your guests. Plus there's a chance of getting them hooked too.......
[quote][p][bold]GenieBantam[/bold] wrote: I wouldnt mind paying an extra £50 for my season ticket. Is there anything in the FA rules that say you cant make a donation to the club? If not then I would book my ticket online as usual £199 and then make a separate donation. If a couple of thousand or more do the same then that would boost the budget somewhat.[/p][/quote]If that is something you want to do. Why not purchase a flexi ticket to take mates or family that wouldn't normally go? This way you are putting money into the club and so are those that would be your guests. Plus there's a chance of getting them hooked too....... Danger Mouse Bantam
  • Score: 7

6:21pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Michael Clayton says...

Danger Mouse Bantam wrote:
GenieBantam wrote: I wouldnt mind paying an extra £50 for my season ticket. Is there anything in the FA rules that say you cant make a donation to the club? If not then I would book my ticket online as usual £199 and then make a separate donation. If a couple of thousand or more do the same then that would boost the budget somewhat.
If that is something you want to do. Why not purchase a flexi ticket to take mates or family that wouldn't normally go? This way you are putting money into the club and so are those that would be your guests. Plus there's a chance of getting them hooked too.......
Brilliant idea.
[quote][p][bold]Danger Mouse Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GenieBantam[/bold] wrote: I wouldnt mind paying an extra £50 for my season ticket. Is there anything in the FA rules that say you cant make a donation to the club? If not then I would book my ticket online as usual £199 and then make a separate donation. If a couple of thousand or more do the same then that would boost the budget somewhat.[/p][/quote]If that is something you want to do. Why not purchase a flexi ticket to take mates or family that wouldn't normally go? This way you are putting money into the club and so are those that would be your guests. Plus there's a chance of getting them hooked too.......[/p][/quote]Brilliant idea. Michael Clayton
  • Score: 3

6:33pm Wed 5 Feb 14

silverbantam says...

Danger Mouse Bantam wrote:
GenieBantam wrote:
I wouldnt mind paying an extra £50 for my season ticket. Is there anything in the FA rules that say you cant make a donation to the club?

If not then I would book my ticket online as usual £199 and then make a separate donation. If a couple of thousand or more do the same then that would boost the budget somewhat.
If that is something you want to do. Why not purchase a flexi ticket to take mates or family that wouldn't normally go? This way you are putting money into the club and so are those that would be your guests. Plus there's a chance of getting them hooked too.......
Or if you don't want anyone sitting next to you buy a Flexicard and never use it !!!
[quote][p][bold]Danger Mouse Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GenieBantam[/bold] wrote: I wouldnt mind paying an extra £50 for my season ticket. Is there anything in the FA rules that say you cant make a donation to the club? If not then I would book my ticket online as usual £199 and then make a separate donation. If a couple of thousand or more do the same then that would boost the budget somewhat.[/p][/quote]If that is something you want to do. Why not purchase a flexi ticket to take mates or family that wouldn't normally go? This way you are putting money into the club and so are those that would be your guests. Plus there's a chance of getting them hooked too.......[/p][/quote]Or if you don't want anyone sitting next to you buy a Flexicard and never use it !!! silverbantam
  • Score: 4

7:23pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Waynus1971 says...

Michael Clayton wrote:
Aside from the various spats (as above) there is another issue in raising the price of season tickets; I am referring to Flexi-Cards.

There are so many permutations depending on how many games an FC holder attends. However, my 'maths' tells me that an increase in ST (from £199) to any price in the region of £250 will broadly correlate with an FC holder trying to attend the majority of fixtures.

This creates problems.

(1) If it as expensive to buy a season ticket as it is to buy a Flexi-card (and pay match by match) there is a disincentive to buy a season ticket and an incentive to pay £50.00 on a flexi card. Thus, there is reduced income pre-season.
(2) Extending (1), if things are not going well, a percentage of those flexi-card holders (who may have bought a season ticket at £199) will not turn up. This is the nightmare scenario as the club (at that point) would be relying on attendance in order to recoup the lost season ticket income and that is before any additional cash-flow could even be considered.
That would be madness on the part of the club.

In the mean time, anyone who complains about the cheapness of the pricing structure, get your hands in your pockets, put your money where your mouth is and pay up. If you wait until such time as you are obliged to pay an increase, then you are nothing short of a hypocrite.
When there are other clubs pricing match day tickets in excess of £20, why not increase ours too. Therefore, your argument about the cost of a Flexi and season-ticket not being too closely priced. Can I also point out that the cards are now more commonly known as a Flexi and not a 50/50, so again, why not add £25 to the cost of the card?

Adults increase to £249
Youth prices stay at £99
OAP/Students £149

Flexi Cards inc to £75
Match Day increase to £24

What's wrong with those prices? This way, Flexi card holders only have to pay an extra £25 up front and then £2 per game. We will get more income from visiting fans too. Only the adult Season Ticket holders would pay more to renew, of which I'm sure the majority would find acceptable and if they didn't, they could opt to buy a Flexi and only watch 10 games???

I'm happy to pay extra for my ticket so PP has a competitive budget without the need to sell an asset in the next couple of years. However, I'll be fecked if I'm a minority and my £50 isn't enough to stop a 'McBurnie' or 'Stockdill' being sold.
[quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: Aside from the various spats (as above) there is another issue in raising the price of season tickets; I am referring to Flexi-Cards. There are so many permutations depending on how many games an FC holder attends. However, my 'maths' tells me that an increase in ST (from £199) to any price in the region of £250 will broadly correlate with an FC holder trying to attend the majority of fixtures. This creates problems. (1) If it as expensive to buy a season ticket as it is to buy a Flexi-card (and pay match by match) there is a disincentive to buy a season ticket and an incentive to pay £50.00 on a flexi card. Thus, there is reduced income pre-season. (2) Extending (1), if things are not going well, a percentage of those flexi-card holders (who may have bought a season ticket at £199) will not turn up. This is the nightmare scenario as the club (at that point) would be relying on attendance in order to recoup the lost season ticket income and that is before any additional cash-flow could even be considered. That would be madness on the part of the club. In the mean time, anyone who complains about the cheapness of the pricing structure, get your hands in your pockets, put your money where your mouth is and pay up. If you wait until such time as you are obliged to pay an increase, then you are nothing short of a hypocrite.[/p][/quote]When there are other clubs pricing match day tickets in excess of £20, why not increase ours too. Therefore, your argument about the cost of a Flexi and season-ticket not being too closely priced. Can I also point out that the cards are now more commonly known as a Flexi and not a 50/50, so again, why not add £25 to the cost of the card? Adults increase to £249 Youth prices stay at £99 OAP/Students £149 Flexi Cards inc to £75 Match Day increase to £24 What's wrong with those prices? This way, Flexi card holders only have to pay an extra £25 up front and then £2 per game. We will get more income from visiting fans too. Only the adult Season Ticket holders would pay more to renew, of which I'm sure the majority would find acceptable and if they didn't, they could opt to buy a Flexi and only watch 10 games??? I'm happy to pay extra for my ticket so PP has a competitive budget without the need to sell an asset in the next couple of years. However, I'll be fecked if I'm a minority and my £50 isn't enough to stop a 'McBurnie' or 'Stockdill' being sold. Waynus1971
  • Score: 0

7:24pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Victor Clayton says...

We have 2 decent chairmen. They have the club at heart but do not have big bucks to invest. We do though have a decent following and some of the cheapest tickets in the country. If we want to see a better standard of football (and not watch hoofing in to the box and rely on a lucky break to score) then it seems to me the fans will have to pay more.
We have 2 decent chairmen. They have the club at heart but do not have big bucks to invest. We do though have a decent following and some of the cheapest tickets in the country. If we want to see a better standard of football (and not watch hoofing in to the box and rely on a lucky break to score) then it seems to me the fans will have to pay more. Victor Clayton
  • Score: 2

9:11pm Wed 5 Feb 14

torreyman says...

Give PP more time to finish mid table this first season in div 1 I think is not a bad start many of you so called fans expect to much a managers job with not much money is not easy so please more time for PP please
Give PP more time to finish mid table this first season in div 1 I think is not a bad start many of you so called fans expect to much a managers job with not much money is not easy so please more time for PP please torreyman
  • Score: 1

8:04am Thu 6 Feb 14

Michael Clayton says...

Waynus1971 wrote:
Michael Clayton wrote: Aside from the various spats (as above) there is another issue in raising the price of season tickets; I am referring to Flexi-Cards. There are so many permutations depending on how many games an FC holder attends. However, my 'maths' tells me that an increase in ST (from £199) to any price in the region of £250 will broadly correlate with an FC holder trying to attend the majority of fixtures. This creates problems. (1) If it as expensive to buy a season ticket as it is to buy a Flexi-card (and pay match by match) there is a disincentive to buy a season ticket and an incentive to pay £50.00 on a flexi card. Thus, there is reduced income pre-season. (2) Extending (1), if things are not going well, a percentage of those flexi-card holders (who may have bought a season ticket at £199) will not turn up. This is the nightmare scenario as the club (at that point) would be relying on attendance in order to recoup the lost season ticket income and that is before any additional cash-flow could even be considered. That would be madness on the part of the club. In the mean time, anyone who complains about the cheapness of the pricing structure, get your hands in your pockets, put your money where your mouth is and pay up. If you wait until such time as you are obliged to pay an increase, then you are nothing short of a hypocrite.
When there are other clubs pricing match day tickets in excess of £20, why not increase ours too. Therefore, your argument about the cost of a Flexi and season-ticket not being too closely priced. Can I also point out that the cards are now more commonly known as a Flexi and not a 50/50, so again, why not add £25 to the cost of the card? Adults increase to £249 Youth prices stay at £99 OAP/Students £149 Flexi Cards inc to £75 Match Day increase to £24 What's wrong with those prices? This way, Flexi card holders only have to pay an extra £25 up front and then £2 per game. We will get more income from visiting fans too. Only the adult Season Ticket holders would pay more to renew, of which I'm sure the majority would find acceptable and if they didn't, they could opt to buy a Flexi and only watch 10 games??? I'm happy to pay extra for my ticket so PP has a competitive budget without the need to sell an asset in the next couple of years. However, I'll be fecked if I'm a minority and my £50 isn't enough to stop a 'McBurnie' or 'Stockdill' being sold.
Yes. A percentage increase across the range (as you describe) is valid. I don't think there would be many objections to your proposal.
[quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: Aside from the various spats (as above) there is another issue in raising the price of season tickets; I am referring to Flexi-Cards. There are so many permutations depending on how many games an FC holder attends. However, my 'maths' tells me that an increase in ST (from £199) to any price in the region of £250 will broadly correlate with an FC holder trying to attend the majority of fixtures. This creates problems. (1) If it as expensive to buy a season ticket as it is to buy a Flexi-card (and pay match by match) there is a disincentive to buy a season ticket and an incentive to pay £50.00 on a flexi card. Thus, there is reduced income pre-season. (2) Extending (1), if things are not going well, a percentage of those flexi-card holders (who may have bought a season ticket at £199) will not turn up. This is the nightmare scenario as the club (at that point) would be relying on attendance in order to recoup the lost season ticket income and that is before any additional cash-flow could even be considered. That would be madness on the part of the club. In the mean time, anyone who complains about the cheapness of the pricing structure, get your hands in your pockets, put your money where your mouth is and pay up. If you wait until such time as you are obliged to pay an increase, then you are nothing short of a hypocrite.[/p][/quote]When there are other clubs pricing match day tickets in excess of £20, why not increase ours too. Therefore, your argument about the cost of a Flexi and season-ticket not being too closely priced. Can I also point out that the cards are now more commonly known as a Flexi and not a 50/50, so again, why not add £25 to the cost of the card? Adults increase to £249 Youth prices stay at £99 OAP/Students £149 Flexi Cards inc to £75 Match Day increase to £24 What's wrong with those prices? This way, Flexi card holders only have to pay an extra £25 up front and then £2 per game. We will get more income from visiting fans too. Only the adult Season Ticket holders would pay more to renew, of which I'm sure the majority would find acceptable and if they didn't, they could opt to buy a Flexi and only watch 10 games??? I'm happy to pay extra for my ticket so PP has a competitive budget without the need to sell an asset in the next couple of years. However, I'll be fecked if I'm a minority and my £50 isn't enough to stop a 'McBurnie' or 'Stockdill' being sold.[/p][/quote]Yes. A percentage increase across the range (as you describe) is valid. I don't think there would be many objections to your proposal. Michael Clayton
  • Score: 1

11:00am Thu 6 Feb 14

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

gordon ramsay wrote:
i am struggling with the notion that we "pushed the boat out THIS year".... ????

we did what has been well documented in that we gave the League 2 team a chance to impress... complimented at least initially by some bizarre short term signings who hardly played between them. wasted budget on the likes of nelson, gray, folan, taylor, kennedy, de vita.

i am failing to see any boat pushing, especially combined with the wembley trips and the sale of wells.

on a more positive note i do like the look of the new loan signings. a much needed and belated freshening up of a very tired team

sport, like many things, is about evolution... stand still and you get over taken. we stood still too long.

onwards and upwards and firmly believe we will get 3 points on saturday and can see mclean getting off the mark!!
The 'boat push' included increased wages for the team that gained promotion pre-written into contracts and bonuses from the cup/promotion.

We also increased Hanson's wage which automatically raised Davies' wage and upped the wage we were paying to Nahki. Added three players, two of whom had been playing in a division or two above us and would have commanded wages accordingly.

A football club will never be transparent about it's finances, we may as well forget that one forever and more embrace the fact that our club does try to look after the fans as well as the club itself.

My dichotomy is that I expected an increase in prices for next season, am pleased to an extent there isn't but feel with a good push the rest of this season the 'gamble' may pay off in an increase in bums on seats and a decent uptake of the STs again for next year.

It is a transitional stage for the club again but we have a far firmer footing to enable this to be more successful than in the past. The last time we let a winger and striker go we didn't replace them, this time we have replaced Nahki with McLean, Reid with Reach/Bennet and hoping to add Dolan to CM.

And remember it is a winless run not a losing streak and no matter what anyone says I have still enjoyed the matches I have attended over the last two years far more than any in the last ten seasons.

Yours with a half full glass

PCBA
[quote][p][bold]gordon ramsay[/bold] wrote: i am struggling with the notion that we "pushed the boat out THIS year".... ???? we did what has been well documented in that we gave the League 2 team a chance to impress... complimented at least initially by some bizarre short term signings who hardly played between them. wasted budget on the likes of nelson, gray, folan, taylor, kennedy, de vita. i am failing to see any boat pushing, especially combined with the wembley trips and the sale of wells. on a more positive note i do like the look of the new loan signings. a much needed and belated freshening up of a very tired team sport, like many things, is about evolution... stand still and you get over taken. we stood still too long. onwards and upwards and firmly believe we will get 3 points on saturday and can see mclean getting off the mark!![/p][/quote]The 'boat push' included increased wages for the team that gained promotion pre-written into contracts and bonuses from the cup/promotion. We also increased Hanson's wage which automatically raised Davies' wage and upped the wage we were paying to Nahki. Added three players, two of whom had been playing in a division or two above us and would have commanded wages accordingly. A football club will never be transparent about it's finances, we may as well forget that one forever and more embrace the fact that our club does try to look after the fans as well as the club itself. My dichotomy is that I expected an increase in prices for next season, am pleased to an extent there isn't but feel with a good push the rest of this season the 'gamble' may pay off in an increase in bums on seats and a decent uptake of the STs again for next year. It is a transitional stage for the club again but we have a far firmer footing to enable this to be more successful than in the past. The last time we let a winger and striker go we didn't replace them, this time we have replaced Nahki with McLean, Reid with Reach/Bennet and hoping to add Dolan to CM. And remember it is a winless run not a losing streak and no matter what anyone says I have still enjoyed the matches I have attended over the last two years far more than any in the last ten seasons. Yours with a half full glass PCBA Prisoner Cell Block A
  • Score: 0

11:02am Thu 6 Feb 14

BCFCBoothy1 says...

Waynus1971 wrote:
Peter300 wrote:
stiflers mom wrote:
notpoliticallycorrec



t
wrote:
So the supporters of the £200 season tickets get their wish. Surely a £30-£50 rise would have helped with the player budget?

The thing is, nobody really knows how many will renew? If we don't start winning soon I recon we could drop the 2,000 season ticket holders that the cheap prices were kept on to attract.

That would then look folly, I certainly don't want the club to get into financial trouble again and would rather see us cover the deficit through higher prices and better product.

At the end if the day it's either your club or it's not and to be fair, the moaners who complain about paying £10 a game over a season quickly found a couple of hundred quid for a day out or two at Wembley.
If you or any other supporters think that season tickets are too cheap,there is nothing to to stop you donating extra money to the club.
Exactly. So the club can expect quite a lot of extra cash with all these people anxious to tell me that the tickets are too cheap. If David Baldwin reads these message boards he will be quite pleased. Maybe he should take a note of their names and make sure they put their money where their mouth is.
The problem with this is the "follower" syndrome. Yes, many of us would be happy to pay an extra £50, but unless most agree, it then becomes a "why should I pay more if Joe Bloggs can't be bothered" attitude. Then, instead of getting several thousands giving an extra £50, you instead only get a couple of hundred, which defeats the object.

Perhaps a 2 price policy could have been considered? Selected seats in the Lower tier of Kop/NW corner/Bradford End charged at the current price of £199, but the better seats in the Main Stand, upper tiers, Midland Rd, etc charged at £249 for adults?
Now that is a better post than your previous one!!!
Very good suggestion!
CTID
[quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peter300[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stiflers mom[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notpoliticallycorrec t[/bold] wrote: So the supporters of the £200 season tickets get their wish. Surely a £30-£50 rise would have helped with the player budget? The thing is, nobody really knows how many will renew? If we don't start winning soon I recon we could drop the 2,000 season ticket holders that the cheap prices were kept on to attract. That would then look folly, I certainly don't want the club to get into financial trouble again and would rather see us cover the deficit through higher prices and better product. At the end if the day it's either your club or it's not and to be fair, the moaners who complain about paying £10 a game over a season quickly found a couple of hundred quid for a day out or two at Wembley.[/p][/quote]If you or any other supporters think that season tickets are too cheap,there is nothing to to stop you donating extra money to the club.[/p][/quote]Exactly. So the club can expect quite a lot of extra cash with all these people anxious to tell me that the tickets are too cheap. If David Baldwin reads these message boards he will be quite pleased. Maybe he should take a note of their names and make sure they put their money where their mouth is.[/p][/quote]The problem with this is the "follower" syndrome. Yes, many of us would be happy to pay an extra £50, but unless most agree, it then becomes a "why should I pay more if Joe Bloggs can't be bothered" attitude. Then, instead of getting several thousands giving an extra £50, you instead only get a couple of hundred, which defeats the object. Perhaps a 2 price policy could have been considered? Selected seats in the Lower tier of Kop/NW corner/Bradford End charged at the current price of £199, but the better seats in the Main Stand, upper tiers, Midland Rd, etc charged at £249 for adults?[/p][/quote]Now that is a better post than your previous one!!! Very good suggestion! CTID BCFCBoothy1
  • Score: -1

11:13am Thu 6 Feb 14

BCFCBoothy1 says...

Waynus1971 wrote:
Olivermac wrote:
stiflers mom wrote:
notpoliticallycorrec



t
wrote:
So the supporters of the £200 season tickets get their wish. Surely a £30-£50 rise would have helped with the player budget?

The thing is, nobody really knows how many will renew? If we don't start winning soon I recon we could drop the 2,000 season ticket holders that the cheap prices were kept on to attract.

That would then look folly, I certainly don't want the club to get into financial trouble again and would rather see us cover the deficit through higher prices and better product.

At the end if the day it's either your club or it's not and to be fair, the moaners who complain about paying £10 a game over a season quickly found a couple of hundred quid for a day out or two at Wembley.
If you or any other supporters think that season tickets are too cheap,there is nothing to to stop you donating extra money to the club.
Yes I agree if someone feels that the tickets are to cheap donate the differance, just note that the reason for the upturn in support to the tune of 13,000 every home game is not just the Wembley run we had last year but the prices are what the Bradfordordians can afford and I think the club have got it spot on not to increase the prices to keep 13,000 plus supporting every home game.
But the 13000 won't keep going if we don't get some success on the pitch. By reducing budgets in a very tough league, are we saying we are happy to stay mid-table? Fans won't stay with us if we don't stay competitive. The natives are already grumbling..!

We can't continue with this boom and bust or boom and asset strip for much longer. Prices should reflect this. There's no point in a few hundred of us paying an extra £50 if the rest don't follow suit!
But Waynus - you are assuming that when the board says, push the boat out, or go over budget, that we are going into debt - remember the 60% ratio on outgoings and income - I suspect and I don't know for sure - that by pushing the boat out, the board mean they go over the 60% threshold, in the hope that the team do better on the pitch and in the division and throughout the season, attendance improves and the unbudgeted income of pay on the day revenue increases enough to get the finances back to within the 60%.

So in summary, we could in theory go over budget by as much as 40% - ie still keeping the club breaking even in real terms, but being over the league rules budget, hoping to recoup that over the season by the time the year end accounts have to be inspected.

As I say, I am not an accountant for the club so can't be sure - but this approach would seem logical.

CTID
[quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Olivermac[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stiflers mom[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notpoliticallycorrec t[/bold] wrote: So the supporters of the £200 season tickets get their wish. Surely a £30-£50 rise would have helped with the player budget? The thing is, nobody really knows how many will renew? If we don't start winning soon I recon we could drop the 2,000 season ticket holders that the cheap prices were kept on to attract. That would then look folly, I certainly don't want the club to get into financial trouble again and would rather see us cover the deficit through higher prices and better product. At the end if the day it's either your club or it's not and to be fair, the moaners who complain about paying £10 a game over a season quickly found a couple of hundred quid for a day out or two at Wembley.[/p][/quote]If you or any other supporters think that season tickets are too cheap,there is nothing to to stop you donating extra money to the club.[/p][/quote]Yes I agree if someone feels that the tickets are to cheap donate the differance, just note that the reason for the upturn in support to the tune of 13,000 every home game is not just the Wembley run we had last year but the prices are what the Bradfordordians can afford and I think the club have got it spot on not to increase the prices to keep 13,000 plus supporting every home game.[/p][/quote]But the 13000 won't keep going if we don't get some success on the pitch. By reducing budgets in a very tough league, are we saying we are happy to stay mid-table? Fans won't stay with us if we don't stay competitive. The natives are already grumbling..! We can't continue with this boom and bust or boom and asset strip for much longer. Prices should reflect this. There's no point in a few hundred of us paying an extra £50 if the rest don't follow suit![/p][/quote]But Waynus - you are assuming that when the board says, push the boat out, or go over budget, that we are going into debt - remember the 60% ratio on outgoings and income - I suspect and I don't know for sure - that by pushing the boat out, the board mean they go over the 60% threshold, in the hope that the team do better on the pitch and in the division and throughout the season, attendance improves and the unbudgeted income of pay on the day revenue increases enough to get the finances back to within the 60%. So in summary, we could in theory go over budget by as much as 40% - ie still keeping the club breaking even in real terms, but being over the league rules budget, hoping to recoup that over the season by the time the year end accounts have to be inspected. As I say, I am not an accountant for the club so can't be sure - but this approach would seem logical. CTID BCFCBoothy1
  • Score: -1

11:29am Thu 6 Feb 14

BCFCBoothy1 says...

Waynus1971 wrote:
Olivermac wrote:
stiflers mom wrote:
notpoliticallycorrec



t
wrote:
So the supporters of the £200 season tickets get their wish. Surely a £30-£50 rise would have helped with the player budget?

The thing is, nobody really knows how many will renew? If we don't start winning soon I recon we could drop the 2,000 season ticket holders that the cheap prices were kept on to attract.

That would then look folly, I certainly don't want the club to get into financial trouble again and would rather see us cover the deficit through higher prices and better product.

At the end if the day it's either your club or it's not and to be fair, the moaners who complain about paying £10 a game over a season quickly found a couple of hundred quid for a day out or two at Wembley.
If you or any other supporters think that season tickets are too cheap,there is nothing to to stop you donating extra money to the club.
Yes I agree if someone feels that the tickets are to cheap donate the differance, just note that the reason for the upturn in support to the tune of 13,000 every home game is not just the Wembley run we had last year but the prices are what the Bradfordordians can afford and I think the club have got it spot on not to increase the prices to keep 13,000 plus supporting every home game.
But the 13000 won't keep going if we don't get some success on the pitch. By reducing budgets in a very tough league, are we saying we are happy to stay mid-table? Fans won't stay with us if we don't stay competitive. The natives are already grumbling..!

We can't continue with this boom and bust or boom and asset strip for much longer. Prices should reflect this. There's no point in a few hundred of us paying an extra £50 if the rest don't follow suit!
But Waynus - you are assuming that when the board says, push the boat out, or go over budget, that we are going into debt - remember the 60% ratio on outgoings and income - I suspect and I don't know for sure - that by pushing the boat out, the board mean they go over the 60% threshold, in the hope that the team do better on the pitch and in the division and throughout the season, attendance improves and the unbudgeted income of pay on the day revenue increases enough to get the finances back to within the 60%.

So in summary, we could in theory go over budget by as much as 40% - ie still keeping the club breaking even in real terms, but being over the league rules budget, hoping to recoup that over the season by the time the year end accounts have to be inspected.

As I say, I am not an accountant for the club so can't be sure - but this approach would seem logical.

CTID
[quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Olivermac[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stiflers mom[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notpoliticallycorrec t[/bold] wrote: So the supporters of the £200 season tickets get their wish. Surely a £30-£50 rise would have helped with the player budget? The thing is, nobody really knows how many will renew? If we don't start winning soon I recon we could drop the 2,000 season ticket holders that the cheap prices were kept on to attract. That would then look folly, I certainly don't want the club to get into financial trouble again and would rather see us cover the deficit through higher prices and better product. At the end if the day it's either your club or it's not and to be fair, the moaners who complain about paying £10 a game over a season quickly found a couple of hundred quid for a day out or two at Wembley.[/p][/quote]If you or any other supporters think that season tickets are too cheap,there is nothing to to stop you donating extra money to the club.[/p][/quote]Yes I agree if someone feels that the tickets are to cheap donate the differance, just note that the reason for the upturn in support to the tune of 13,000 every home game is not just the Wembley run we had last year but the prices are what the Bradfordordians can afford and I think the club have got it spot on not to increase the prices to keep 13,000 plus supporting every home game.[/p][/quote]But the 13000 won't keep going if we don't get some success on the pitch. By reducing budgets in a very tough league, are we saying we are happy to stay mid-table? Fans won't stay with us if we don't stay competitive. The natives are already grumbling..! We can't continue with this boom and bust or boom and asset strip for much longer. Prices should reflect this. There's no point in a few hundred of us paying an extra £50 if the rest don't follow suit![/p][/quote]But Waynus - you are assuming that when the board says, push the boat out, or go over budget, that we are going into debt - remember the 60% ratio on outgoings and income - I suspect and I don't know for sure - that by pushing the boat out, the board mean they go over the 60% threshold, in the hope that the team do better on the pitch and in the division and throughout the season, attendance improves and the unbudgeted income of pay on the day revenue increases enough to get the finances back to within the 60%. So in summary, we could in theory go over budget by as much as 40% - ie still keeping the club breaking even in real terms, but being over the league rules budget, hoping to recoup that over the season by the time the year end accounts have to be inspected. As I say, I am not an accountant for the club so can't be sure - but this approach would seem logical. CTID BCFCBoothy1
  • Score: -1

9:51pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Waynus1971 says...

BCFCBoothy1 wrote:
Waynus1971 wrote:
Olivermac wrote:
stiflers mom wrote:
notpoliticallycorrec




t
wrote:
So the supporters of the £200 season tickets get their wish. Surely a £30-£50 rise would have helped with the player budget?

The thing is, nobody really knows how many will renew? If we don't start winning soon I recon we could drop the 2,000 season ticket holders that the cheap prices were kept on to attract.

That would then look folly, I certainly don't want the club to get into financial trouble again and would rather see us cover the deficit through higher prices and better product.

At the end if the day it's either your club or it's not and to be fair, the moaners who complain about paying £10 a game over a season quickly found a couple of hundred quid for a day out or two at Wembley.
If you or any other supporters think that season tickets are too cheap,there is nothing to to stop you donating extra money to the club.
Yes I agree if someone feels that the tickets are to cheap donate the differance, just note that the reason for the upturn in support to the tune of 13,000 every home game is not just the Wembley run we had last year but the prices are what the Bradfordordians can afford and I think the club have got it spot on not to increase the prices to keep 13,000 plus supporting every home game.
But the 13000 won't keep going if we don't get some success on the pitch. By reducing budgets in a very tough league, are we saying we are happy to stay mid-table? Fans won't stay with us if we don't stay competitive. The natives are already grumbling..!

We can't continue with this boom and bust or boom and asset strip for much longer. Prices should reflect this. There's no point in a few hundred of us paying an extra £50 if the rest don't follow suit!
But Waynus - you are assuming that when the board says, push the boat out, or go over budget, that we are going into debt - remember the 60% ratio on outgoings and income - I suspect and I don't know for sure - that by pushing the boat out, the board mean they go over the 60% threshold, in the hope that the team do better on the pitch and in the division and throughout the season, attendance improves and the unbudgeted income of pay on the day revenue increases enough to get the finances back to within the 60%.

So in summary, we could in theory go over budget by as much as 40% - ie still keeping the club breaking even in real terms, but being over the league rules budget, hoping to recoup that over the season by the time the year end accounts have to be inspected.

As I say, I am not an accountant for the club so can't be sure - but this approach would seem logical.

CTID
And if we spend up to 60% of our total income on wages, what happens if our other outgoings exceed 40% of our income??? Bearing in mind we have stadia costs etc, it is very feasible to be spending more than 40% on non-wages!

Remember, both Rhodes and Lawn have said that the money received from Wells' sale would offset this season's debt and the expected losses of next season. So, in response to you; we are losing money, yes
[quote][p][bold]BCFCBoothy1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waynus1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Olivermac[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stiflers mom[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notpoliticallycorrec t[/bold] wrote: So the supporters of the £200 season tickets get their wish. Surely a £30-£50 rise would have helped with the player budget? The thing is, nobody really knows how many will renew? If we don't start winning soon I recon we could drop the 2,000 season ticket holders that the cheap prices were kept on to attract. That would then look folly, I certainly don't want the club to get into financial trouble again and would rather see us cover the deficit through higher prices and better product. At the end if the day it's either your club or it's not and to be fair, the moaners who complain about paying £10 a game over a season quickly found a couple of hundred quid for a day out or two at Wembley.[/p][/quote]If you or any other supporters think that season tickets are too cheap,there is nothing to to stop you donating extra money to the club.[/p][/quote]Yes I agree if someone feels that the tickets are to cheap donate the differance, just note that the reason for the upturn in support to the tune of 13,000 every home game is not just the Wembley run we had last year but the prices are what the Bradfordordians can afford and I think the club have got it spot on not to increase the prices to keep 13,000 plus supporting every home game.[/p][/quote]But the 13000 won't keep going if we don't get some success on the pitch. By reducing budgets in a very tough league, are we saying we are happy to stay mid-table? Fans won't stay with us if we don't stay competitive. The natives are already grumbling..! We can't continue with this boom and bust or boom and asset strip for much longer. Prices should reflect this. There's no point in a few hundred of us paying an extra £50 if the rest don't follow suit![/p][/quote]But Waynus - you are assuming that when the board says, push the boat out, or go over budget, that we are going into debt - remember the 60% ratio on outgoings and income - I suspect and I don't know for sure - that by pushing the boat out, the board mean they go over the 60% threshold, in the hope that the team do better on the pitch and in the division and throughout the season, attendance improves and the unbudgeted income of pay on the day revenue increases enough to get the finances back to within the 60%. So in summary, we could in theory go over budget by as much as 40% - ie still keeping the club breaking even in real terms, but being over the league rules budget, hoping to recoup that over the season by the time the year end accounts have to be inspected. As I say, I am not an accountant for the club so can't be sure - but this approach would seem logical. CTID[/p][/quote]And if we spend up to 60% of our total income on wages, what happens if our other outgoings exceed 40% of our income??? Bearing in mind we have stadia costs etc, it is very feasible to be spending more than 40% on non-wages! Remember, both Rhodes and Lawn have said that the money received from Wells' sale would offset this season's debt and the expected losses of next season. So, in response to you; we are losing money, yes Waynus1971
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