Bradford Bulls face fretful fortnight while crunch talks take place over club's Super League future

LET BATTLE COMMENCE: The 14 Super League captains – including Bulls skipper Matt Diskin, far left – at yesterday’s Super League launch in Manchester

LET BATTLE COMMENCE: The 14 Super League captains – including Bulls skipper Matt Diskin, far left – at yesterday’s Super League launch in Manchester

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Matt Diskin yesterday spoke of his hope that the Bulls would not be docked points as they nervously wait to discover their fate within the next fortnight.

The Bulls’ holding company, OK Bulls Ltd, entered administration on Friday as the club came under the ownership of Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd.

The club’s directors will meet with the RFL in the coming days as they seek to have the Bulls’ Super League licence transferred to the new company.

Chairman Mark Moore has spoken of his intention to work with creditors in order to avoid a possible points sanction.

Club captain Diskin, head coach Francis Cummins and winger Jamie Foster represented the Bulls at yesterday’s Super League launch in Manchester.

Diskin, who made his first appearance of the year during Sunday’s home defeat to Castleford, said: “Whether we get points deducted or not, there is nothing we can do about it as players.

“We’ll get on with our job and we are striving for the top eight this season.

“I think we’ve got a good enough squad – I know we didn’t show that on Sunday – but when everyone is fit then we can compete with the best of them.

"Hopefully the ownership issue has now been sorted and we can finally put some stability in place.”

RFL chief executive Nigel Wood said a decision over any possible sanction would be made within the next fortnight.

Wood explained: “I would expect Bradford’s directors to make representations over the next couple of weeks as to why the Super League licence should be transferred and why they are the best people to take the club on.

“We are all aware that the club needs as much certainty as quickly as possible.

“The position is that the club will make an application to have the ownership transferred and to have its licence transferred.

“At that point the RFL board will convene to determine the circumstances of how the change of ownership has come about and whether they are prepared to approve it.

“What will then be assessed is whether there has been a breach of the regulations over insolvency to determine whether any sanction should be imposed.

“This should be within the next fortnight. The board’s view has always been that if creditors are let down in any way, shape or form then that becomes a very tangible and obvious breach of the insolvency policy.

“If they are not let down, that supports an argument to avoid a sanction but we will wait to receive all the information we require first.”

Cummins admitted the uncertainty surrounding the Bulls’ ownership last week had affected his players during Sunday’s 66-10 loss to Castleford.

He said: “Sunday’s performance was obviously disappointing but you don’t become a bad team in two weeks.

“There was also an emotional effect with everything that is going on in the club and possible points deduction.

“The feedback I got from some of my senior pros as they stood behind those posts on Sunday was that there was nothing there emotionally in the players’ eyes.

“I can’t control that, which is the one thing I’ve learnt throughout all my time at Bradford, because these past two years have not gone smoothly.

“We can’t control what other people are going to decide and we can’t worry about that.

“What we can do is make sure we’re in a position to play on gameday and we weren’t this week.

“It has taken its toll but we need to shake it off and get ready to play Castleford again a week on Sunday.”

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7:38am Tue 4 Feb 14

bartsbull says...

First if we are to be deducted points let te club know now the RFL have been involved with the three new owners and chaired the meetings

So why do they need to take a fortnight to look into this they had already given the go ahead to say that the owners were fit and proper and let Mark stay as chairman.
These people have the club at heart they have sorted the mess out that they were left with .
Come on RFL not only back these people but back the fans of our club who have also put a great deal into the club to keep it going.
We take many fans to away games do you want to loose that revenue to the away clubs COYB
First if we are to be deducted points let te club know now the RFL have been involved with the three new owners and chaired the meetings So why do they need to take a fortnight to look into this they had already given the go ahead to say that the owners were fit and proper and let Mark stay as chairman. These people have the club at heart they have sorted the mess out that they were left with . Come on RFL not only back these people but back the fans of our club who have also put a great deal into the club to keep it going. We take many fans to away games do you want to loose that revenue to the away clubs COYB bartsbull
  • Score: 8

7:38am Tue 4 Feb 14

AdeyG'man says...

Whether license is transferred or not? As long as we don't agree to another two years with half sky money then who else are they gonna bring in at this time?!? Face facts Wood, stop being a numpty, get it signed off and stop dangling the club and it's fans like a yo-yo
Whether license is transferred or not? As long as we don't agree to another two years with half sky money then who else are they gonna bring in at this time?!? Face facts Wood, stop being a numpty, get it signed off and stop dangling the club and it's fans like a yo-yo AdeyG'man
  • Score: 8

7:48am Tue 4 Feb 14

bradfordbronco says...

They need to meet with with the people they already met with and the same ones they have already stated they want in charge at the club, to see if they can give them go ahead to run the club. What is there to talk about about, they probably have all the facts anyway, unless they weren't paying attention at all the previous meetings! How come it will take two weeks to come to a decision that they probably made 3 weeks ago anyway.

Just can''t understand why Mr wood is so fond of these meetings, with all expenses slap up lunches no doubt, that he wants 2 more weeks of them. Wait a minute I've got to the bottom of it all!
They need to meet with with the people they already met with and the same ones they have already stated they want in charge at the club, to see if they can give them go ahead to run the club. What is there to talk about about, they probably have all the facts anyway, unless they weren't paying attention at all the previous meetings! How come it will take two weeks to come to a decision that they probably made 3 weeks ago anyway. Just can''t understand why Mr wood is so fond of these meetings, with all expenses slap up lunches no doubt, that he wants 2 more weeks of them. Wait a minute I've got to the bottom of it all! bradfordbronco
  • Score: 7

8:45am Tue 4 Feb 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

I'd forget about things you can't control. The RFL will do what the RFL want to do. If a punishment is dealt out then unfortunately you'll just have to take it as you can't really plead as to doing nothing wrong.
The team have 2 weeks to get things right on the pitch, that should be their sole focus at this time.
I'm sure the RFL will have various clubs in their ear at this time so even though meetings have taken place with the Bulls further meetings are probably required to satisfy all parties in the competition.
On final thing, no one club is bigger than the sport. Super League would continue without the Bulls, it would be a great shame if it did but some seem to think the Super League need the Bulls, thats wrong.
I'd forget about things you can't control. The RFL will do what the RFL want to do. If a punishment is dealt out then unfortunately you'll just have to take it as you can't really plead as to doing nothing wrong. The team have 2 weeks to get things right on the pitch, that should be their sole focus at this time. I'm sure the RFL will have various clubs in their ear at this time so even though meetings have taken place with the Bulls further meetings are probably required to satisfy all parties in the competition. On final thing, no one club is bigger than the sport. Super League would continue without the Bulls, it would be a great shame if it did but some seem to think the Super League need the Bulls, thats wrong. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 5

8:58am Tue 4 Feb 14

MeccaBingo1 says...

The merry go round continues, starting to effect players, different story in two weeks, don't become a bad team over night!

Same old dribble year in year out.

Was at Odsal last week & its turning into a complete dump. Nothing has been even painted, same old 8-year-old flags etc. Would not be surprised if the stand at far side is shut for safety reasons later in the year.

Players will leave and another year will be wasted.

Its not even the start of season and yet again we seem to be going down the same old road.

Time to bite the bullet a drop out of super league and rebuild.
The merry go round continues, starting to effect players, different story in two weeks, don't become a bad team over night! Same old dribble year in year out. Was at Odsal last week & its turning into a complete dump. Nothing has been even painted, same old 8-year-old flags etc. Would not be surprised if the stand at far side is shut for safety reasons later in the year. Players will leave and another year will be wasted. Its not even the start of season and yet again we seem to be going down the same old road. Time to bite the bullet a drop out of super league and rebuild. MeccaBingo1
  • Score: -8

9:30am Tue 4 Feb 14

poppastratton says...

I feel great sadness about the position my once great club is in and I dearly hope that we can rise again to a position of greatness where we are regarded with respect. In saying this I do feel there is an undercurrent of spite against the Bulls by the RFL. Other clubs have had been in the same or similar situation however the sanctions imposed on the Bulls seem to be have been far more draconian. Yes, I am biased but I don't think I'm far off the mark.
I feel great sadness about the position my once great club is in and I dearly hope that we can rise again to a position of greatness where we are regarded with respect. In saying this I do feel there is an undercurrent of spite against the Bulls by the RFL. Other clubs have had been in the same or similar situation however the sanctions imposed on the Bulls seem to be have been far more draconian. Yes, I am biased but I don't think I'm far off the mark. poppastratton
  • Score: 12

9:57am Tue 4 Feb 14

Adeybull says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
I'd forget about things you can't control. The RFL will do what the RFL want to do. If a punishment is dealt out then unfortunately you'll just have to take it as you can't really plead as to doing nothing wrong.
The team have 2 weeks to get things right on the pitch, that should be their sole focus at this time.
I'm sure the RFL will have various clubs in their ear at this time so even though meetings have taken place with the Bulls further meetings are probably required to satisfy all parties in the competition.
On final thing, no one club is bigger than the sport. Super League would continue without the Bulls, it would be a great shame if it did but some seem to think the Super League need the Bulls, thats wrong.
Strangely enough, I can't find anything much in that to disagree with.

Unlike the usual undermining garbage from our regular fifth columnist earlier in the thread.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: I'd forget about things you can't control. The RFL will do what the RFL want to do. If a punishment is dealt out then unfortunately you'll just have to take it as you can't really plead as to doing nothing wrong. The team have 2 weeks to get things right on the pitch, that should be their sole focus at this time. I'm sure the RFL will have various clubs in their ear at this time so even though meetings have taken place with the Bulls further meetings are probably required to satisfy all parties in the competition. On final thing, no one club is bigger than the sport. Super League would continue without the Bulls, it would be a great shame if it did but some seem to think the Super League need the Bulls, thats wrong.[/p][/quote]Strangely enough, I can't find anything much in that to disagree with. Unlike the usual undermining garbage from our regular fifth columnist earlier in the thread. Adeybull
  • Score: 4

10:44am Tue 4 Feb 14

Bone_idle18 says...

They don't seem to fanny around like this where London are concerned. One minute they're on the brink, then next they move grounds and all is rosy! I suspect the RFL shoved a couple of million their way and told them to keep quiet.
They don't seem to fanny around like this where London are concerned. One minute they're on the brink, then next they move grounds and all is rosy! I suspect the RFL shoved a couple of million their way and told them to keep quiet. Bone_idle18
  • Score: -1

11:04am Tue 4 Feb 14

mines a pint says...

Surely the only issue here is what the new company intend to do about the creditors of OK Bulls Ltd

All emotion aside the reason the bulls were previously docked 6 points as opposed to the 4 point sanction received by Wakefield is that OK refused to settle any of the outstanding creditors of the old club whereas the new regime at wakey did pay off SOME of their inherited creditors

Until last week all previous meetings chaired by the RFL had been about the transfer of shares in OK Bulls Ltd to Moore et al there had been no discussion of entering administration.

If those talks had been concluded successfully the existing board of OK Bulls Ltd would have emerged as also being the new owners of the same club ie only the ownership would change the same people as before would still be running the club

In such a situation there would have been no administration & therefore creditors of OK Bulls ltd would remain creditors & the club would not have breached the RFL insolvency policy & therefore the transfer would pass through red hall without any issues & certainly no points deductions

HOWEVER Khan continued to stall on the transfer expecting to be paid for shares in a business whose revenues & assets were insufficient to finance its debts & this is from the same man that announced when he stepped down that he would do absolutely nothing that would harm the club & his gripe was only against individuals!!!!

When the only other share holder could see OK would never agree to the transfer he called in the receiver & put the club in admin & the ownership was transferred to Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd.

Now the RFL have more to consider as first it is a completely new company that owns the Bulls but more importantly by entering administration the new owners can if they choose to do so reject any claim from the creditors of OK Bulls ltd for payment as they have no legal responsibility to those creditors

Stating they will work with the creditors of the old club is nothing more than a statement of intent The RFL will need to see the finer detail of what that means before ratifying the take over & deciding on any points deduction

They will want to see if creditors will be paid in full & the time-scale and it is this detail that will determine if points are to be deducted & how many

If the new board pay all the creditors off immediately (or when the invoice would normally fall due for payment) then they have not breached the RFL insolvency policy & therefore there will be no points deduction

Trying to take a positive outlook on the current situation I would consider the following

1) Prior to the break down in the talks to transfer the shares the current board were prepared to take the club on lock stock & barrel

2) The current board have already undertaken a stringent review of the company finances producing a financial budget for 2014 which included making savings of £400k presumably this included financing existing creditors

3) the old creditors are presumably STILL suppliers to the new company & therefore they need to keep them onside which wont happen if they don't get paid

4) the new owners still have to pas the fit & proper test and to completely walk away from the creditors of OK Bulls Ltd could harm this process

The next few weeks will go a long way to show what kind of men we now have in charge at the Bulls

Will they take the easy option re the problematic finances at the club & simply refuse to pay any creditors Legally they can do that regardless of the fact that it is morally wrong But surely this woud only serve to strengthen the resolve of those in the RFL & other clubs who are already anti Bulls

Only time will tell
Surely the only issue here is what the new company intend to do about the creditors of OK Bulls Ltd All emotion aside the reason the bulls were previously docked 6 points as opposed to the 4 point sanction received by Wakefield is that OK refused to settle any of the outstanding creditors of the old club whereas the new regime at wakey did pay off SOME of their inherited creditors Until last week all previous meetings chaired by the RFL had been about the transfer of shares in OK Bulls Ltd to Moore et al there had been no discussion of entering administration. If those talks had been concluded successfully the existing board of OK Bulls Ltd would have emerged as also being the new owners of the same club ie only the ownership would change the same people as before would still be running the club In such a situation there would have been no administration & therefore creditors of OK Bulls ltd would remain creditors & the club would not have breached the RFL insolvency policy & therefore the transfer would pass through red hall without any issues & certainly no points deductions HOWEVER Khan continued to stall on the transfer expecting to be paid for shares in a business whose revenues & assets were insufficient to finance its debts & this is from the same man that announced when he stepped down that he would do absolutely nothing that would harm the club & his gripe was only against individuals!!!! When the only other share holder could see OK would never agree to the transfer he called in the receiver & put the club in admin & the ownership was transferred to Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd. Now the RFL have more to consider as first it is a completely new company that owns the Bulls but more importantly by entering administration the new owners can if they choose to do so reject any claim from the creditors of OK Bulls ltd for payment as they have no legal responsibility to those creditors Stating they will work with the creditors of the old club is nothing more than a statement of intent The RFL will need to see the finer detail of what that means before ratifying the take over & deciding on any points deduction They will want to see if creditors will be paid in full & the time-scale and it is this detail that will determine if points are to be deducted & how many If the new board pay all the creditors off immediately (or when the invoice would normally fall due for payment) then they have not breached the RFL insolvency policy & therefore there will be no points deduction Trying to take a positive outlook on the current situation I would consider the following 1) Prior to the break down in the talks to transfer the shares the current board were prepared to take the club on lock stock & barrel 2) The current board have already undertaken a stringent review of the company finances producing a financial budget for 2014 which included making savings of £400k presumably this included financing existing creditors 3) the old creditors are presumably STILL suppliers to the new company & therefore they need to keep them onside which wont happen if they don't get paid 4) the new owners still have to pas the fit & proper test and to completely walk away from the creditors of OK Bulls Ltd could harm this process The next few weeks will go a long way to show what kind of men we now have in charge at the Bulls Will they take the easy option re the problematic finances at the club & simply refuse to pay any creditors Legally they can do that regardless of the fact that it is morally wrong But surely this woud only serve to strengthen the resolve of those in the RFL & other clubs who are already anti Bulls Only time will tell mines a pint
  • Score: 17

11:10am Tue 4 Feb 14

Bev says...

Am I alone in not yet receiving season tickets, paid for in October and normally dispatched early January?
Am I alone in not yet receiving season tickets, paid for in October and normally dispatched early January? Bev
  • Score: 4

11:20am Tue 4 Feb 14

billybobbull says...

The issues are NOT just that the Directors and therefore the new company are fit and proper persons to run the club in Super League, the main issues are at the new company do not leave lots of community creditors high and dry without paying what is owed.
This would not only look bad on the club and company, Bradford Bulls, but also on Rugby League in general.
The RFL MUST for the sake of the game, ensure the change of ownership does not result in community partners and their employees losing out because The BULLS cannot get their house in order. If you and I were creditors, we would want the RFL to ensure we were not losing out and the rugby club business carries on regardless.
The RFL is right to make its time to make sure creditors are paid.
WE as supporters cannot have it both ways. Business is business and we need the new one to be reputable. Without that we will have no club.
The issues are NOT just that the Directors and therefore the new company are fit and proper persons to run the club in Super League, the main issues are at the new company do not leave lots of community creditors high and dry without paying what is owed. This would not only look bad on the club and company, Bradford Bulls, but also on Rugby League in general. The RFL MUST for the sake of the game, ensure the change of ownership does not result in community partners and their employees losing out because The BULLS cannot get their house in order. If you and I were creditors, we would want the RFL to ensure we were not losing out and the rugby club business carries on regardless. The RFL is right to make its time to make sure creditors are paid. WE as supporters cannot have it both ways. Business is business and we need the new one to be reputable. Without that we will have no club. billybobbull
  • Score: 8

11:29am Tue 4 Feb 14

blue marlin says...

mines a pint wrote:
Surely the only issue here is what the new company intend to do about the creditors of OK Bulls Ltd All emotion aside the reason the bulls were previously docked 6 points as opposed to the 4 point sanction received by Wakefield is that OK refused to settle any of the outstanding creditors of the old club whereas the new regime at wakey did pay off SOME of their inherited creditors Until last week all previous meetings chaired by the RFL had been about the transfer of shares in OK Bulls Ltd to Moore et al there had been no discussion of entering administration. If those talks had been concluded successfully the existing board of OK Bulls Ltd would have emerged as also being the new owners of the same club ie only the ownership would change the same people as before would still be running the club In such a situation there would have been no administration & therefore creditors of OK Bulls ltd would remain creditors & the club would not have breached the RFL insolvency policy & therefore the transfer would pass through red hall without any issues & certainly no points deductions HOWEVER Khan continued to stall on the transfer expecting to be paid for shares in a business whose revenues & assets were insufficient to finance its debts & this is from the same man that announced when he stepped down that he would do absolutely nothing that would harm the club & his gripe was only against individuals!!!! When the only other share holder could see OK would never agree to the transfer he called in the receiver & put the club in admin & the ownership was transferred to Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd. Now the RFL have more to consider as first it is a completely new company that owns the Bulls but more importantly by entering administration the new owners can if they choose to do so reject any claim from the creditors of OK Bulls ltd for payment as they have no legal responsibility to those creditors Stating they will work with the creditors of the old club is nothing more than a statement of intent The RFL will need to see the finer detail of what that means before ratifying the take over & deciding on any points deduction They will want to see if creditors will be paid in full & the time-scale and it is this detail that will determine if points are to be deducted & how many If the new board pay all the creditors off immediately (or when the invoice would normally fall due for payment) then they have not breached the RFL insolvency policy & therefore there will be no points deduction Trying to take a positive outlook on the current situation I would consider the following 1) Prior to the break down in the talks to transfer the shares the current board were prepared to take the club on lock stock & barrel 2) The current board have already undertaken a stringent review of the company finances producing a financial budget for 2014 which included making savings of £400k presumably this included financing existing creditors 3) the old creditors are presumably STILL suppliers to the new company & therefore they need to keep them onside which wont happen if they don't get paid 4) the new owners still have to pas the fit & proper test and to completely walk away from the creditors of OK Bulls Ltd could harm this process The next few weeks will go a long way to show what kind of men we now have in charge at the Bulls Will they take the easy option re the problematic finances at the club & simply refuse to pay any creditors Legally they can do that regardless of the fact that it is morally wrong But surely this woud only serve to strengthen the resolve of those in the RFL & other clubs who are already anti Bulls Only time will tell
fully agree with the above, one point how will they ensure that crditors are paid?
will points deduction be taken off later in the season if they find that crditors are not being paid.
The YP web site reports that the majority of creditors will get 100p in the pound.
If you were one of the minority and you did not get your money you would be a bit P***ed off.
[quote][p][bold]mines a pint[/bold] wrote: Surely the only issue here is what the new company intend to do about the creditors of OK Bulls Ltd All emotion aside the reason the bulls were previously docked 6 points as opposed to the 4 point sanction received by Wakefield is that OK refused to settle any of the outstanding creditors of the old club whereas the new regime at wakey did pay off SOME of their inherited creditors Until last week all previous meetings chaired by the RFL had been about the transfer of shares in OK Bulls Ltd to Moore et al there had been no discussion of entering administration. If those talks had been concluded successfully the existing board of OK Bulls Ltd would have emerged as also being the new owners of the same club ie only the ownership would change the same people as before would still be running the club In such a situation there would have been no administration & therefore creditors of OK Bulls ltd would remain creditors & the club would not have breached the RFL insolvency policy & therefore the transfer would pass through red hall without any issues & certainly no points deductions HOWEVER Khan continued to stall on the transfer expecting to be paid for shares in a business whose revenues & assets were insufficient to finance its debts & this is from the same man that announced when he stepped down that he would do absolutely nothing that would harm the club & his gripe was only against individuals!!!! When the only other share holder could see OK would never agree to the transfer he called in the receiver & put the club in admin & the ownership was transferred to Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd. Now the RFL have more to consider as first it is a completely new company that owns the Bulls but more importantly by entering administration the new owners can if they choose to do so reject any claim from the creditors of OK Bulls ltd for payment as they have no legal responsibility to those creditors Stating they will work with the creditors of the old club is nothing more than a statement of intent The RFL will need to see the finer detail of what that means before ratifying the take over & deciding on any points deduction They will want to see if creditors will be paid in full & the time-scale and it is this detail that will determine if points are to be deducted & how many If the new board pay all the creditors off immediately (or when the invoice would normally fall due for payment) then they have not breached the RFL insolvency policy & therefore there will be no points deduction Trying to take a positive outlook on the current situation I would consider the following 1) Prior to the break down in the talks to transfer the shares the current board were prepared to take the club on lock stock & barrel 2) The current board have already undertaken a stringent review of the company finances producing a financial budget for 2014 which included making savings of £400k presumably this included financing existing creditors 3) the old creditors are presumably STILL suppliers to the new company & therefore they need to keep them onside which wont happen if they don't get paid 4) the new owners still have to pas the fit & proper test and to completely walk away from the creditors of OK Bulls Ltd could harm this process The next few weeks will go a long way to show what kind of men we now have in charge at the Bulls Will they take the easy option re the problematic finances at the club & simply refuse to pay any creditors Legally they can do that regardless of the fact that it is morally wrong But surely this woud only serve to strengthen the resolve of those in the RFL & other clubs who are already anti Bulls Only time will tell[/p][/quote]fully agree with the above, one point how will they [the RFL] ensure that crditors are paid? will points deduction be taken off later in the season if they [the RFL] find that crditors are not being paid. The YP web site reports that the majority of creditors will get 100p in the pound. If you were one of the minority and you did not get your money you would be a bit P***ed off. blue marlin
  • Score: 4

11:33am Tue 4 Feb 14

billybobbull says...

mines a pint wrote:
Surely the only issue here is what the new company intend to do about the creditors of OK Bulls Ltd

All emotion aside the reason the bulls were previously docked 6 points as opposed to the 4 point sanction received by Wakefield is that OK refused to settle any of the outstanding creditors of the old club whereas the new regime at wakey did pay off SOME of their inherited creditors

Until last week all previous meetings chaired by the RFL had been about the transfer of shares in OK Bulls Ltd to Moore et al there had been no discussion of entering administration.

If those talks had been concluded successfully the existing board of OK Bulls Ltd would have emerged as also being the new owners of the same club ie only the ownership would change the same people as before would still be running the club

In such a situation there would have been no administration & therefore creditors of OK Bulls ltd would remain creditors & the club would not have breached the RFL insolvency policy & therefore the transfer would pass through red hall without any issues & certainly no points deductions

HOWEVER Khan continued to stall on the transfer expecting to be paid for shares in a business whose revenues & assets were insufficient to finance its debts & this is from the same man that announced when he stepped down that he would do absolutely nothing that would harm the club & his gripe was only against individuals!!!!

When the only other share holder could see OK would never agree to the transfer he called in the receiver & put the club in admin & the ownership was transferred to Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd.

Now the RFL have more to consider as first it is a completely new company that owns the Bulls but more importantly by entering administration the new owners can if they choose to do so reject any claim from the creditors of OK Bulls ltd for payment as they have no legal responsibility to those creditors

Stating they will work with the creditors of the old club is nothing more than a statement of intent The RFL will need to see the finer detail of what that means before ratifying the take over & deciding on any points deduction

They will want to see if creditors will be paid in full & the time-scale and it is this detail that will determine if points are to be deducted & how many

If the new board pay all the creditors off immediately (or when the invoice would normally fall due for payment) then they have not breached the RFL insolvency policy & therefore there will be no points deduction

Trying to take a positive outlook on the current situation I would consider the following

1) Prior to the break down in the talks to transfer the shares the current board were prepared to take the club on lock stock & barrel

2) The current board have already undertaken a stringent review of the company finances producing a financial budget for 2014 which included making savings of £400k presumably this included financing existing creditors

3) the old creditors are presumably STILL suppliers to the new company & therefore they need to keep them onside which wont happen if they don't get paid

4) the new owners still have to pas the fit & proper test and to completely walk away from the creditors of OK Bulls Ltd could harm this process

The next few weeks will go a long way to show what kind of men we now have in charge at the Bulls

Will they take the easy option re the problematic finances at the club & simply refuse to pay any creditors Legally they can do that regardless of the fact that it is morally wrong But surely this woud only serve to strengthen the resolve of those in the RFL & other clubs who are already anti Bulls

Only time will tell
Totally agree with this...Good post.........and I suppose that the inclusion of one Mr Robert Raniri Hunter-Paul as a fourth director, as of last week, adds to the impression that they are trying to give a positive personal touch to any business decisions.
Robbie IS now the face of Bulls and that will hopefully give rise to a community ethos to any negotiations with RFL and creditors.
[quote][p][bold]mines a pint[/bold] wrote: Surely the only issue here is what the new company intend to do about the creditors of OK Bulls Ltd All emotion aside the reason the bulls were previously docked 6 points as opposed to the 4 point sanction received by Wakefield is that OK refused to settle any of the outstanding creditors of the old club whereas the new regime at wakey did pay off SOME of their inherited creditors Until last week all previous meetings chaired by the RFL had been about the transfer of shares in OK Bulls Ltd to Moore et al there had been no discussion of entering administration. If those talks had been concluded successfully the existing board of OK Bulls Ltd would have emerged as also being the new owners of the same club ie only the ownership would change the same people as before would still be running the club In such a situation there would have been no administration & therefore creditors of OK Bulls ltd would remain creditors & the club would not have breached the RFL insolvency policy & therefore the transfer would pass through red hall without any issues & certainly no points deductions HOWEVER Khan continued to stall on the transfer expecting to be paid for shares in a business whose revenues & assets were insufficient to finance its debts & this is from the same man that announced when he stepped down that he would do absolutely nothing that would harm the club & his gripe was only against individuals!!!! When the only other share holder could see OK would never agree to the transfer he called in the receiver & put the club in admin & the ownership was transferred to Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd. Now the RFL have more to consider as first it is a completely new company that owns the Bulls but more importantly by entering administration the new owners can if they choose to do so reject any claim from the creditors of OK Bulls ltd for payment as they have no legal responsibility to those creditors Stating they will work with the creditors of the old club is nothing more than a statement of intent The RFL will need to see the finer detail of what that means before ratifying the take over & deciding on any points deduction They will want to see if creditors will be paid in full & the time-scale and it is this detail that will determine if points are to be deducted & how many If the new board pay all the creditors off immediately (or when the invoice would normally fall due for payment) then they have not breached the RFL insolvency policy & therefore there will be no points deduction Trying to take a positive outlook on the current situation I would consider the following 1) Prior to the break down in the talks to transfer the shares the current board were prepared to take the club on lock stock & barrel 2) The current board have already undertaken a stringent review of the company finances producing a financial budget for 2014 which included making savings of £400k presumably this included financing existing creditors 3) the old creditors are presumably STILL suppliers to the new company & therefore they need to keep them onside which wont happen if they don't get paid 4) the new owners still have to pas the fit & proper test and to completely walk away from the creditors of OK Bulls Ltd could harm this process The next few weeks will go a long way to show what kind of men we now have in charge at the Bulls Will they take the easy option re the problematic finances at the club & simply refuse to pay any creditors Legally they can do that regardless of the fact that it is morally wrong But surely this woud only serve to strengthen the resolve of those in the RFL & other clubs who are already anti Bulls Only time will tell[/p][/quote]Totally agree with this...Good post.........and I suppose that the inclusion of one Mr Robert Raniri Hunter-Paul as a fourth director, as of last week, adds to the impression that they are trying to give a positive personal touch to any business decisions. Robbie IS now the face of Bulls and that will hopefully give rise to a community ethos to any negotiations with RFL and creditors. billybobbull
  • Score: 4

11:49am Tue 4 Feb 14

theoutsider says...

Too many words being expended on this subject. Its simple can the Bulls pay whats owed to all creditors (without compromise to those creditors in a fair and reasonable time span). If not? its a minus points start for the season and who could argue with that. Too much messing around at Odsal Stadium they all need to get on their 'bikes' if you ask me.
Too many words being expended on this subject. Its simple can the Bulls pay whats owed to all creditors (without compromise to those creditors in a fair and reasonable time span). If not? its a minus points start for the season and who could argue with that. Too much messing around at Odsal Stadium they all need to get on their 'bikes' if you ask me. theoutsider
  • Score: 5

11:54am Tue 4 Feb 14

BierleyBoy says...

Sadly, it's black and white. OK Bulls Ltd has gone into administration. Under RFL operational rules that is an act of insolvency, and therefore a points deduction is mandatory.

It doesn't help that Moore! Watt & Calvert were all directors of OK Bulls Ltd.

If the creditors accept an offer of payment for monies owed, it should be 4 points. If not, it should be 6 as last year.

The biggest concern has to be income for the 2014 season. Season ticket sales must be around £600k down on 2013, making match day income absolutely crucial. Cuts have been made, but big numbers are needed to click through.

A few performances like that against Cas and the club will be in serious jeopardy.

Not a good time to be a Bull.
Sadly, it's black and white. OK Bulls Ltd has gone into administration. Under RFL operational rules that is an act of insolvency, and therefore a points deduction is mandatory. It doesn't help that Moore! Watt & Calvert were all directors of OK Bulls Ltd. If the creditors accept an offer of payment for monies owed, it should be 4 points. If not, it should be 6 as last year. The biggest concern has to be income for the 2014 season. Season ticket sales must be around £600k down on 2013, making match day income absolutely crucial. Cuts have been made, but big numbers are needed to click through. A few performances like that against Cas and the club will be in serious jeopardy. Not a good time to be a Bull. BierleyBoy
  • Score: 4

12:06pm Tue 4 Feb 14

northern pig says...

When the Bulls went into administration the first time and were docked points and agreed to forfeit half of their central funding money,which was shared out between the rest of the clubs,it did not matter..they could not be relegated because that was not in the equation.the worst that could happen was they would not make the play offs. However. this year they could be relegated.So operating on half the funding again this year in my opinion.is abig enough penalty to deal with without having points deducted.
When the Bulls went into administration the first time and were docked points and agreed to forfeit half of their central funding money,which was shared out between the rest of the clubs,it did not matter..they could not be relegated because that was not in the equation.the worst that could happen was they would not make the play offs. However. this year they could be relegated.So operating on half the funding again this year in my opinion.is abig enough penalty to deal with without having points deducted. northern pig
  • Score: 6

12:45pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Loyalbull1981 says...

Bev wrote:
Am I alone in not yet receiving season tickets, paid for in October and normally dispatched early January?
they are not posting any/have to be collected. saves around £2500 in postage that way
[quote][p][bold]Bev[/bold] wrote: Am I alone in not yet receiving season tickets, paid for in October and normally dispatched early January?[/p][/quote]they are not posting any/have to be collected. saves around £2500 in postage that way Loyalbull1981
  • Score: 4

12:48pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Bacon Bantam says...

mines a pint has put down the best comment I have seen in a while.

This is something also to take note, Khan and Sutcliffe inherited a clean slate. The club was debt free. £1.5m wiped away for the forefit of a sky money reduction for the following 2 years.

Promises to spend to the Cap, £5m on Odsal, etc were all then made by the "Saviours" who for the £250k purchase aquired the £3m Coral Stand and all the Bulls remaining assets.

Wreckless spending, and borrowing followed meaning the club had debts of £1.2m within a year and HMRC have filed a winding up order against them and OK Bulls are now in admin.

So in order to potentially avoid a points deduction, the new lot will have to take on all this debt and ensure it's paid back, then also have a reduction in sky money as the previous regime agreed.

Some may still see Khan and Co as saviours, the rest will realise all that the new lot take on is due to the previous regime, and if they fail I for one won't be pointing a figure at Moore & Co.
mines a pint has put down the best comment I have seen in a while. This is something also to take note, Khan and Sutcliffe inherited a clean slate. The club was debt free. £1.5m wiped away for the forefit of a sky money reduction for the following 2 years. Promises to spend to the Cap, £5m on Odsal, etc were all then made by the "Saviours" who for the £250k purchase aquired the £3m Coral Stand and all the Bulls remaining assets. Wreckless spending, and borrowing followed meaning the club had debts of £1.2m within a year and HMRC have filed a winding up order against them and OK Bulls are now in admin. So in order to potentially avoid a points deduction, the new lot will have to take on all this debt and ensure it's paid back, then also have a reduction in sky money as the previous regime agreed. Some may still see Khan and Co as saviours, the rest will realise all that the new lot take on is due to the previous regime, and if they fail I for one won't be pointing a figure at Moore & Co. Bacon Bantam
  • Score: 14

12:53pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Loyalbull1981 says...

the thing that worries me most about this article is from franny ''“The feedback I got from some of my senior pros as they stood behind those posts on Sunday was that there was nothing there emotionally in the players’ eyes. '' its a sad sad day if this is going to be the case all year.
the thing that worries me most about this article is from franny ''“The feedback I got from some of my senior pros as they stood behind those posts on Sunday was that there was nothing there emotionally in the players’ eyes. '' its a sad sad day if this is going to be the case all year. Loyalbull1981
  • Score: 1

1:01pm Tue 4 Feb 14

portugalbull says...

The RFL are right to be concerned that creditors are paid in full where possible, thats why when OK agreed to forego on the Sky money instead of paying off
The RFL are right to be concerned that creditors are paid in full where possible, thats why when OK agreed to forego on the Sky money instead of paying off portugalbull
  • Score: 5

1:17pm Tue 4 Feb 14

portugalbull says...

The RFL are right to be concerned that creditors are paid in full, that's why when OK agreed to forego the Sky money they passed it o n to the other clubs instead of paying off the creditors of the previous company. Double standards me thinks. Take the moral high ground but act otherwise.

Sorry previous post incomplete
The RFL are right to be concerned that creditors are paid in full, that's why when OK agreed to forego the Sky money they passed it o n to the other clubs instead of paying off the creditors of the previous company. Double standards me thinks. Take the moral high ground but act otherwise. Sorry previous post incomplete portugalbull
  • Score: 4

1:34pm Tue 4 Feb 14

BD16 says...

blue marlin wrote:
mines a pint wrote:
Surely the only issue here is what the new company intend to do about the creditors of OK Bulls Ltd All emotion aside the reason the bulls were previously docked 6 points as opposed to the 4 point sanction received by Wakefield is that OK refused to settle any of the outstanding creditors of the old club whereas the new regime at wakey did pay off SOME of their inherited creditors Until last week all previous meetings chaired by the RFL had been about the transfer of shares in OK Bulls Ltd to Moore et al there had been no discussion of entering administration. If those talks had been concluded successfully the existing board of OK Bulls Ltd would have emerged as also being the new owners of the same club ie only the ownership would change the same people as before would still be running the club In such a situation there would have been no administration & therefore creditors of OK Bulls ltd would remain creditors & the club would not have breached the RFL insolvency policy & therefore the transfer would pass through red hall without any issues & certainly no points deductions HOWEVER Khan continued to stall on the transfer expecting to be paid for shares in a business whose revenues & assets were insufficient to finance its debts & this is from the same man that announced when he stepped down that he would do absolutely nothing that would harm the club & his gripe was only against individuals!!!! When the only other share holder could see OK would never agree to the transfer he called in the receiver & put the club in admin & the ownership was transferred to Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd. Now the RFL have more to consider as first it is a completely new company that owns the Bulls but more importantly by entering administration the new owners can if they choose to do so reject any claim from the creditors of OK Bulls ltd for payment as they have no legal responsibility to those creditors Stating they will work with the creditors of the old club is nothing more than a statement of intent The RFL will need to see the finer detail of what that means before ratifying the take over & deciding on any points deduction They will want to see if creditors will be paid in full & the time-scale and it is this detail that will determine if points are to be deducted & how many If the new board pay all the creditors off immediately (or when the invoice would normally fall due for payment) then they have not breached the RFL insolvency policy & therefore there will be no points deduction Trying to take a positive outlook on the current situation I would consider the following 1) Prior to the break down in the talks to transfer the shares the current board were prepared to take the club on lock stock & barrel 2) The current board have already undertaken a stringent review of the company finances producing a financial budget for 2014 which included making savings of £400k presumably this included financing existing creditors 3) the old creditors are presumably STILL suppliers to the new company & therefore they need to keep them onside which wont happen if they don't get paid 4) the new owners still have to pas the fit & proper test and to completely walk away from the creditors of OK Bulls Ltd could harm this process The next few weeks will go a long way to show what kind of men we now have in charge at the Bulls Will they take the easy option re the problematic finances at the club & simply refuse to pay any creditors Legally they can do that regardless of the fact that it is morally wrong But surely this woud only serve to strengthen the resolve of those in the RFL & other clubs who are already anti Bulls Only time will tell
fully agree with the above, one point how will they ensure that crditors are paid?
will points deduction be taken off later in the season if they find that crditors are not being paid.
The YP web site reports that the majority of creditors will get 100p in the pound.
If you were one of the minority and you did not get your money you would be a bit P***ed off.
Do Omar Khans directors loans qualify him as a creditor or are they treated differently as he was a director? If it's the latter then perhaps he's the one that won't get paid.
[quote][p][bold]blue marlin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mines a pint[/bold] wrote: Surely the only issue here is what the new company intend to do about the creditors of OK Bulls Ltd All emotion aside the reason the bulls were previously docked 6 points as opposed to the 4 point sanction received by Wakefield is that OK refused to settle any of the outstanding creditors of the old club whereas the new regime at wakey did pay off SOME of their inherited creditors Until last week all previous meetings chaired by the RFL had been about the transfer of shares in OK Bulls Ltd to Moore et al there had been no discussion of entering administration. If those talks had been concluded successfully the existing board of OK Bulls Ltd would have emerged as also being the new owners of the same club ie only the ownership would change the same people as before would still be running the club In such a situation there would have been no administration & therefore creditors of OK Bulls ltd would remain creditors & the club would not have breached the RFL insolvency policy & therefore the transfer would pass through red hall without any issues & certainly no points deductions HOWEVER Khan continued to stall on the transfer expecting to be paid for shares in a business whose revenues & assets were insufficient to finance its debts & this is from the same man that announced when he stepped down that he would do absolutely nothing that would harm the club & his gripe was only against individuals!!!! When the only other share holder could see OK would never agree to the transfer he called in the receiver & put the club in admin & the ownership was transferred to Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd. Now the RFL have more to consider as first it is a completely new company that owns the Bulls but more importantly by entering administration the new owners can if they choose to do so reject any claim from the creditors of OK Bulls ltd for payment as they have no legal responsibility to those creditors Stating they will work with the creditors of the old club is nothing more than a statement of intent The RFL will need to see the finer detail of what that means before ratifying the take over & deciding on any points deduction They will want to see if creditors will be paid in full & the time-scale and it is this detail that will determine if points are to be deducted & how many If the new board pay all the creditors off immediately (or when the invoice would normally fall due for payment) then they have not breached the RFL insolvency policy & therefore there will be no points deduction Trying to take a positive outlook on the current situation I would consider the following 1) Prior to the break down in the talks to transfer the shares the current board were prepared to take the club on lock stock & barrel 2) The current board have already undertaken a stringent review of the company finances producing a financial budget for 2014 which included making savings of £400k presumably this included financing existing creditors 3) the old creditors are presumably STILL suppliers to the new company & therefore they need to keep them onside which wont happen if they don't get paid 4) the new owners still have to pas the fit & proper test and to completely walk away from the creditors of OK Bulls Ltd could harm this process The next few weeks will go a long way to show what kind of men we now have in charge at the Bulls Will they take the easy option re the problematic finances at the club & simply refuse to pay any creditors Legally they can do that regardless of the fact that it is morally wrong But surely this woud only serve to strengthen the resolve of those in the RFL & other clubs who are already anti Bulls Only time will tell[/p][/quote]fully agree with the above, one point how will they [the RFL] ensure that crditors are paid? will points deduction be taken off later in the season if they [the RFL] find that crditors are not being paid. The YP web site reports that the majority of creditors will get 100p in the pound. If you were one of the minority and you did not get your money you would be a bit P***ed off.[/p][/quote]Do Omar Khans directors loans qualify him as a creditor or are they treated differently as he was a director? If it's the latter then perhaps he's the one that won't get paid. BD16
  • Score: 4

2:03pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Bacon Bantam says...

BD16 wrote:
blue marlin wrote:
mines a pint wrote: Surely the only issue here is what the new company intend to do about the creditors of OK Bulls Ltd All emotion aside the reason the bulls were previously docked 6 points as opposed to the 4 point sanction received by Wakefield is that OK refused to settle any of the outstanding creditors of the old club whereas the new regime at wakey did pay off SOME of their inherited creditors Until last week all previous meetings chaired by the RFL had been about the transfer of shares in OK Bulls Ltd to Moore et al there had been no discussion of entering administration. If those talks had been concluded successfully the existing board of OK Bulls Ltd would have emerged as also being the new owners of the same club ie only the ownership would change the same people as before would still be running the club In such a situation there would have been no administration & therefore creditors of OK Bulls ltd would remain creditors & the club would not have breached the RFL insolvency policy & therefore the transfer would pass through red hall without any issues & certainly no points deductions HOWEVER Khan continued to stall on the transfer expecting to be paid for shares in a business whose revenues & assets were insufficient to finance its debts & this is from the same man that announced when he stepped down that he would do absolutely nothing that would harm the club & his gripe was only against individuals!!!! When the only other share holder could see OK would never agree to the transfer he called in the receiver & put the club in admin & the ownership was transferred to Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd. Now the RFL have more to consider as first it is a completely new company that owns the Bulls but more importantly by entering administration the new owners can if they choose to do so reject any claim from the creditors of OK Bulls ltd for payment as they have no legal responsibility to those creditors Stating they will work with the creditors of the old club is nothing more than a statement of intent The RFL will need to see the finer detail of what that means before ratifying the take over & deciding on any points deduction They will want to see if creditors will be paid in full & the time-scale and it is this detail that will determine if points are to be deducted & how many If the new board pay all the creditors off immediately (or when the invoice would normally fall due for payment) then they have not breached the RFL insolvency policy & therefore there will be no points deduction Trying to take a positive outlook on the current situation I would consider the following 1) Prior to the break down in the talks to transfer the shares the current board were prepared to take the club on lock stock & barrel 2) The current board have already undertaken a stringent review of the company finances producing a financial budget for 2014 which included making savings of £400k presumably this included financing existing creditors 3) the old creditors are presumably STILL suppliers to the new company & therefore they need to keep them onside which wont happen if they don't get paid 4) the new owners still have to pas the fit & proper test and to completely walk away from the creditors of OK Bulls Ltd could harm this process The next few weeks will go a long way to show what kind of men we now have in charge at the Bulls Will they take the easy option re the problematic finances at the club & simply refuse to pay any creditors Legally they can do that regardless of the fact that it is morally wrong But surely this woud only serve to strengthen the resolve of those in the RFL & other clubs who are already anti Bulls Only time will tell
fully agree with the above, one point how will they ensure that crditors are paid? will points deduction be taken off later in the season if they find that crditors are not being paid. The YP web site reports that the majority of creditors will get 100p in the pound. If you were one of the minority and you did not get your money you would be a bit P***ed off.
Do Omar Khans directors loans qualify him as a creditor or are they treated differently as he was a director? If it's the latter then perhaps he's the one that won't get paid.
OK won't get a penny. The RFL won't care about the Directors loan being repaid in full, it's the others who their concern would be with.

Next time Gerry Sutcliffe is in the paper moaning about tax evasion and cuts, maybe he would like to explain how a company he was a director for failed to pay what was owed to HMRC to the extent that a winding up order was placed on them from HMRC.
[quote][p][bold]BD16[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blue marlin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mines a pint[/bold] wrote: Surely the only issue here is what the new company intend to do about the creditors of OK Bulls Ltd All emotion aside the reason the bulls were previously docked 6 points as opposed to the 4 point sanction received by Wakefield is that OK refused to settle any of the outstanding creditors of the old club whereas the new regime at wakey did pay off SOME of their inherited creditors Until last week all previous meetings chaired by the RFL had been about the transfer of shares in OK Bulls Ltd to Moore et al there had been no discussion of entering administration. If those talks had been concluded successfully the existing board of OK Bulls Ltd would have emerged as also being the new owners of the same club ie only the ownership would change the same people as before would still be running the club In such a situation there would have been no administration & therefore creditors of OK Bulls ltd would remain creditors & the club would not have breached the RFL insolvency policy & therefore the transfer would pass through red hall without any issues & certainly no points deductions HOWEVER Khan continued to stall on the transfer expecting to be paid for shares in a business whose revenues & assets were insufficient to finance its debts & this is from the same man that announced when he stepped down that he would do absolutely nothing that would harm the club & his gripe was only against individuals!!!! When the only other share holder could see OK would never agree to the transfer he called in the receiver & put the club in admin & the ownership was transferred to Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd. Now the RFL have more to consider as first it is a completely new company that owns the Bulls but more importantly by entering administration the new owners can if they choose to do so reject any claim from the creditors of OK Bulls ltd for payment as they have no legal responsibility to those creditors Stating they will work with the creditors of the old club is nothing more than a statement of intent The RFL will need to see the finer detail of what that means before ratifying the take over & deciding on any points deduction They will want to see if creditors will be paid in full & the time-scale and it is this detail that will determine if points are to be deducted & how many If the new board pay all the creditors off immediately (or when the invoice would normally fall due for payment) then they have not breached the RFL insolvency policy & therefore there will be no points deduction Trying to take a positive outlook on the current situation I would consider the following 1) Prior to the break down in the talks to transfer the shares the current board were prepared to take the club on lock stock & barrel 2) The current board have already undertaken a stringent review of the company finances producing a financial budget for 2014 which included making savings of £400k presumably this included financing existing creditors 3) the old creditors are presumably STILL suppliers to the new company & therefore they need to keep them onside which wont happen if they don't get paid 4) the new owners still have to pas the fit & proper test and to completely walk away from the creditors of OK Bulls Ltd could harm this process The next few weeks will go a long way to show what kind of men we now have in charge at the Bulls Will they take the easy option re the problematic finances at the club & simply refuse to pay any creditors Legally they can do that regardless of the fact that it is morally wrong But surely this woud only serve to strengthen the resolve of those in the RFL & other clubs who are already anti Bulls Only time will tell[/p][/quote]fully agree with the above, one point how will they [the RFL] ensure that crditors are paid? will points deduction be taken off later in the season if they [the RFL] find that crditors are not being paid. The YP web site reports that the majority of creditors will get 100p in the pound. If you were one of the minority and you did not get your money you would be a bit P***ed off.[/p][/quote]Do Omar Khans directors loans qualify him as a creditor or are they treated differently as he was a director? If it's the latter then perhaps he's the one that won't get paid.[/p][/quote]OK won't get a penny. The RFL won't care about the Directors loan being repaid in full, it's the others who their concern would be with. Next time Gerry Sutcliffe is in the paper moaning about tax evasion and cuts, maybe he would like to explain how a company he was a director for failed to pay what was owed to HMRC to the extent that a winding up order was placed on them from HMRC. Bacon Bantam
  • Score: 14

3:12pm Tue 4 Feb 14

tyker2 says...

I it is true that the players have already given up ten it's going to be a very very long and devastating season . Can these new directors actually finance the undertakings they are likely to give to get RFL approval to carry on and to carry on losing money in the mean time as gates are unlikely to cover current expenditure. I think not especially as loans which were arranged not so long ago have gone bad resulting in a further administration
I it is true that the players have already given up ten it's going to be a very very long and devastating season . Can these new directors actually finance the undertakings they are likely to give to get RFL approval to carry on and to carry on losing money in the mean time as gates are unlikely to cover current expenditure. I think not especially as loans which were arranged not so long ago have gone bad resulting in a further administration tyker2
  • Score: -1

3:37pm Tue 4 Feb 14

raisemeup says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
I'd forget about things you can't control. The RFL will do what the RFL want to do. If a punishment is dealt out then unfortunately you'll just have to take it as you can't really plead as to doing nothing wrong.
The team have 2 weeks to get things right on the pitch, that should be their sole focus at this time.
I'm sure the RFL will have various clubs in their ear at this time so even though meetings have taken place with the Bulls further meetings are probably required to satisfy all parties in the competition.
On final thing, no one club is bigger than the sport. Super League would continue without the Bulls, it would be a great shame if it did but some seem to think the Super League need the Bulls, thats wrong.
They needed them when the concept was built and we were the only team to embrace that concept fully. I know for a fact that the initial competition was granted £240k per team to begin the process of re branding etc. The bulls plowed every penny into the effort. How many other clubs did that I am not privy to.
But there is a true saying which I first heard from a Bulls Director some time after the launch;
"Those that taste the waters, will eventually forget those that helped to dig the well!" we as a club aren't whiter than white, but we haven't murdered anyone have we? from many quarters I read that 'The Bulls' and presumably the fans are the worst kind of criminals that history has unfolded?
All we can do is what I've always personally lived by." do our best, and let others do their worst!"
The RFL have renegued on the initial statement made by Blake Solly, who said that we had no other choice under the circumstances, and through the controller they are now saying it entirely different.
So does this mean the initial £300k( see new Sky pre cursor deal) all super league clubs are supposed to be getting within the next two weeks will be withheld from the Bulls?
Of course this then gives our competitors the financial edge in the first few matches of SL, and I suppose if the RFL manage to see those results the points deduction will then help towards our demise at the end of 2014.
Or is that me being all twitter and bisted????

I know someone who is off my birthday wishes list, and sod the valentines card as well!
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: I'd forget about things you can't control. The RFL will do what the RFL want to do. If a punishment is dealt out then unfortunately you'll just have to take it as you can't really plead as to doing nothing wrong. The team have 2 weeks to get things right on the pitch, that should be their sole focus at this time. I'm sure the RFL will have various clubs in their ear at this time so even though meetings have taken place with the Bulls further meetings are probably required to satisfy all parties in the competition. On final thing, no one club is bigger than the sport. Super League would continue without the Bulls, it would be a great shame if it did but some seem to think the Super League need the Bulls, thats wrong.[/p][/quote]They needed them when the concept was built and we were the only team to embrace that concept fully. I know for a fact that the initial competition was granted £240k per team to begin the process of re branding etc. The bulls plowed every penny into the effort. How many other clubs did that I am not privy to. But there is a true saying which I first heard from a Bulls Director some time after the launch; "Those that taste the waters, will eventually forget those that helped to dig the well!" we as a club aren't whiter than white, but we haven't murdered anyone have we? from many quarters I read that 'The Bulls' and presumably the fans are the worst kind of criminals that history has unfolded? All we can do is what I've always personally lived by." do our best, and let others do their worst!" The RFL have renegued on the initial statement made by Blake Solly, who said that we had no other choice under the circumstances, and through the controller they are now saying it entirely different. So does this mean the initial £300k( see new Sky pre cursor deal) all super league clubs are supposed to be getting within the next two weeks will be withheld from the Bulls? Of course this then gives our competitors the financial edge in the first few matches of SL, and I suppose if the RFL manage to see those results the points deduction will then help towards our demise at the end of 2014. Or is that me being all twitter and bisted???? I know someone who is off my birthday wishes list, and sod the valentines card as well! raisemeup
  • Score: -3

4:08pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Bacon Bantam says...

raisemeup wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote: I'd forget about things you can't control. The RFL will do what the RFL want to do. If a punishment is dealt out then unfortunately you'll just have to take it as you can't really plead as to doing nothing wrong. The team have 2 weeks to get things right on the pitch, that should be their sole focus at this time. I'm sure the RFL will have various clubs in their ear at this time so even though meetings have taken place with the Bulls further meetings are probably required to satisfy all parties in the competition. On final thing, no one club is bigger than the sport. Super League would continue without the Bulls, it would be a great shame if it did but some seem to think the Super League need the Bulls, thats wrong.
They needed them when the concept was built and we were the only team to embrace that concept fully. I know for a fact that the initial competition was granted £240k per team to begin the process of re branding etc. The bulls plowed every penny into the effort. How many other clubs did that I am not privy to. But there is a true saying which I first heard from a Bulls Director some time after the launch; "Those that taste the waters, will eventually forget those that helped to dig the well!" we as a club aren't whiter than white, but we haven't murdered anyone have we? from many quarters I read that 'The Bulls' and presumably the fans are the worst kind of criminals that history has unfolded? All we can do is what I've always personally lived by." do our best, and let others do their worst!" The RFL have renegued on the initial statement made by Blake Solly, who said that we had no other choice under the circumstances, and through the controller they are now saying it entirely different. So does this mean the initial £300k( see new Sky pre cursor deal) all super league clubs are supposed to be getting within the next two weeks will be withheld from the Bulls? Of course this then gives our competitors the financial edge in the first few matches of SL, and I suppose if the RFL manage to see those results the points deduction will then help towards our demise at the end of 2014. Or is that me being all twitter and bisted???? I know someone who is off my birthday wishes list, and sod the valentines card as well!
No it's just you thinking the Bulls have a devine right to a super league place regardless of what goes on.

I seem to remember Halifax helped to dig the Well, where is their devine right to a Super League place?
[quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: I'd forget about things you can't control. The RFL will do what the RFL want to do. If a punishment is dealt out then unfortunately you'll just have to take it as you can't really plead as to doing nothing wrong. The team have 2 weeks to get things right on the pitch, that should be their sole focus at this time. I'm sure the RFL will have various clubs in their ear at this time so even though meetings have taken place with the Bulls further meetings are probably required to satisfy all parties in the competition. On final thing, no one club is bigger than the sport. Super League would continue without the Bulls, it would be a great shame if it did but some seem to think the Super League need the Bulls, thats wrong.[/p][/quote]They needed them when the concept was built and we were the only team to embrace that concept fully. I know for a fact that the initial competition was granted £240k per team to begin the process of re branding etc. The bulls plowed every penny into the effort. How many other clubs did that I am not privy to. But there is a true saying which I first heard from a Bulls Director some time after the launch; "Those that taste the waters, will eventually forget those that helped to dig the well!" we as a club aren't whiter than white, but we haven't murdered anyone have we? from many quarters I read that 'The Bulls' and presumably the fans are the worst kind of criminals that history has unfolded? All we can do is what I've always personally lived by." do our best, and let others do their worst!" The RFL have renegued on the initial statement made by Blake Solly, who said that we had no other choice under the circumstances, and through the controller they are now saying it entirely different. So does this mean the initial £300k( see new Sky pre cursor deal) all super league clubs are supposed to be getting within the next two weeks will be withheld from the Bulls? Of course this then gives our competitors the financial edge in the first few matches of SL, and I suppose if the RFL manage to see those results the points deduction will then help towards our demise at the end of 2014. Or is that me being all twitter and bisted???? I know someone who is off my birthday wishes list, and sod the valentines card as well![/p][/quote]No it's just you thinking the Bulls have a devine right to a super league place regardless of what goes on. I seem to remember Halifax helped to dig the Well, where is their devine right to a Super League place? Bacon Bantam
  • Score: 2

4:43pm Tue 4 Feb 14

raisemeup says...

Bacon Bantam wrote:
raisemeup wrote:
Thee Voice of Reason wrote: I'd forget about things you can't control. The RFL will do what the RFL want to do. If a punishment is dealt out then unfortunately you'll just have to take it as you can't really plead as to doing nothing wrong. The team have 2 weeks to get things right on the pitch, that should be their sole focus at this time. I'm sure the RFL will have various clubs in their ear at this time so even though meetings have taken place with the Bulls further meetings are probably required to satisfy all parties in the competition. On final thing, no one club is bigger than the sport. Super League would continue without the Bulls, it would be a great shame if it did but some seem to think the Super League need the Bulls, thats wrong.
They needed them when the concept was built and we were the only team to embrace that concept fully. I know for a fact that the initial competition was granted £240k per team to begin the process of re branding etc. The bulls plowed every penny into the effort. How many other clubs did that I am not privy to. But there is a true saying which I first heard from a Bulls Director some time after the launch; "Those that taste the waters, will eventually forget those that helped to dig the well!" we as a club aren't whiter than white, but we haven't murdered anyone have we? from many quarters I read that 'The Bulls' and presumably the fans are the worst kind of criminals that history has unfolded? All we can do is what I've always personally lived by." do our best, and let others do their worst!" The RFL have renegued on the initial statement made by Blake Solly, who said that we had no other choice under the circumstances, and through the controller they are now saying it entirely different. So does this mean the initial £300k( see new Sky pre cursor deal) all super league clubs are supposed to be getting within the next two weeks will be withheld from the Bulls? Of course this then gives our competitors the financial edge in the first few matches of SL, and I suppose if the RFL manage to see those results the points deduction will then help towards our demise at the end of 2014. Or is that me being all twitter and bisted???? I know someone who is off my birthday wishes list, and sod the valentines card as well!
No it's just you thinking the Bulls have a devine right to a super league place regardless of what goes on.

I seem to remember Halifax helped to dig the Well, where is their devine right to a Super League place?
Not really sunshine, and where you get the idea that Halifax are any better placed to cast moral or even immoral judgement is beyond me, they have their own cross to bear! Possibly don't need your input !
Find me a post where I ever said the Bulls have a divine right to be in SL.
Every team whether in SL or Championship achieves the right to be where they are through merit. All they ask is a level playing field to help them entertain their fans and finish as high up the table as possible.
Your arguement is well flawed!,
[quote][p][bold]Bacon Bantam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]raisemeup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: I'd forget about things you can't control. The RFL will do what the RFL want to do. If a punishment is dealt out then unfortunately you'll just have to take it as you can't really plead as to doing nothing wrong. The team have 2 weeks to get things right on the pitch, that should be their sole focus at this time. I'm sure the RFL will have various clubs in their ear at this time so even though meetings have taken place with the Bulls further meetings are probably required to satisfy all parties in the competition. On final thing, no one club is bigger than the sport. Super League would continue without the Bulls, it would be a great shame if it did but some seem to think the Super League need the Bulls, thats wrong.[/p][/quote]They needed them when the concept was built and we were the only team to embrace that concept fully. I know for a fact that the initial competition was granted £240k per team to begin the process of re branding etc. The bulls plowed every penny into the effort. How many other clubs did that I am not privy to. But there is a true saying which I first heard from a Bulls Director some time after the launch; "Those that taste the waters, will eventually forget those that helped to dig the well!" we as a club aren't whiter than white, but we haven't murdered anyone have we? from many quarters I read that 'The Bulls' and presumably the fans are the worst kind of criminals that history has unfolded? All we can do is what I've always personally lived by." do our best, and let others do their worst!" The RFL have renegued on the initial statement made by Blake Solly, who said that we had no other choice under the circumstances, and through the controller they are now saying it entirely different. So does this mean the initial £300k( see new Sky pre cursor deal) all super league clubs are supposed to be getting within the next two weeks will be withheld from the Bulls? Of course this then gives our competitors the financial edge in the first few matches of SL, and I suppose if the RFL manage to see those results the points deduction will then help towards our demise at the end of 2014. Or is that me being all twitter and bisted???? I know someone who is off my birthday wishes list, and sod the valentines card as well![/p][/quote]No it's just you thinking the Bulls have a devine right to a super league place regardless of what goes on. I seem to remember Halifax helped to dig the Well, where is their devine right to a Super League place?[/p][/quote]Not really sunshine, and where you get the idea that Halifax are any better placed to cast moral or even immoral judgement is beyond me, they have their own cross to bear! Possibly don't need your input ! Find me a post where I ever said the Bulls have a divine right to be in SL. Every team whether in SL or Championship achieves the right to be where they are through merit. All they ask is a level playing field to help them entertain their fans and finish as high up the table as possible. Your arguement is well flawed!, raisemeup
  • Score: 2

5:30pm Tue 4 Feb 14

realcitygent says...

kick them out the league and turn odsal back into waste site ,i remember odsal tip fingers crossed it will be turned into one again ,its just not right grown men chasing a egg shaped ball around the field
kick them out the league and turn odsal back into waste site ,i remember odsal tip fingers crossed it will be turned into one again ,its just not right grown men chasing a egg shaped ball around the field realcitygent
  • Score: -7

6:34pm Tue 4 Feb 14

georget44 says...

Bev wrote:
Am I alone in not yet receiving season tickets, paid for in October and normally dispatched early January?
You need to got to the ticket office to pick them up as they are not posting them out
[quote][p][bold]Bev[/bold] wrote: Am I alone in not yet receiving season tickets, paid for in October and normally dispatched early January?[/p][/quote]You need to got to the ticket office to pick them up as they are not posting them out georget44
  • Score: -1

7:44pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Bfd-til-i-die says...

Real city gent!! Don't make me laugh
Real city gent!! Don't make me laugh Bfd-til-i-die
  • Score: -3

7:46pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Sheffieldbull says...

realcitygent wrote:
kick them out the league and turn odsal back into waste site ,i remember odsal tip fingers crossed it will be turned into one again ,its just not right grown men chasing a egg shaped ball around the field
Who let this one out?
[quote][p][bold]realcitygent[/bold] wrote: kick them out the league and turn odsal back into waste site ,i remember odsal tip fingers crossed it will be turned into one again ,its just not right grown men chasing a egg shaped ball around the field[/p][/quote]Who let this one out? Sheffieldbull
  • Score: 0

8:20pm Tue 4 Feb 14

The Man From the Pru says...

realcitygent wrote:
kick them out the league and turn odsal back into waste site ,i remember odsal tip fingers crossed it will be turned into one again ,its just not right grown men chasing a egg shaped ball around the field
Realcitygents, now if you remember Odsal Tip, you will remember, the names of the both the golf club and cricket club, and where exactly the tip was. If you are referring to the origins of the stadium, then your post puts you somewhere in the age range of 79 - 90. An age when the memory does start to drift.

Another disillusioned City fan. How many games now, is it without success.
[quote][p][bold]realcitygent[/bold] wrote: kick them out the league and turn odsal back into waste site ,i remember odsal tip fingers crossed it will be turned into one again ,its just not right grown men chasing a egg shaped ball around the field[/p][/quote]Realcitygents, now if you remember Odsal Tip, you will remember, the names of the both the golf club and cricket club, and where exactly the tip was. If you are referring to the origins of the stadium, then your post puts you somewhere in the age range of 79 - 90. An age when the memory does start to drift. Another disillusioned City fan. How many games now, is it without success. The Man From the Pru
  • Score: -1

9:04pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

The Man From the Pru wrote:
realcitygent wrote:
kick them out the league and turn odsal back into waste site ,i remember odsal tip fingers crossed it will be turned into one again ,its just not right grown men chasing a egg shaped ball around the field
Realcitygents, now if you remember Odsal Tip, you will remember, the names of the both the golf club and cricket club, and where exactly the tip was. If you are referring to the origins of the stadium, then your post puts you somewhere in the age range of 79 - 90. An age when the memory does start to drift.

Another disillusioned City fan. How many games now, is it without success.
Depends what you define as success?
Play-offs?
Cup Final?
Less than a year for both.
The Bulls?
[quote][p][bold]The Man From the Pru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realcitygent[/bold] wrote: kick them out the league and turn odsal back into waste site ,i remember odsal tip fingers crossed it will be turned into one again ,its just not right grown men chasing a egg shaped ball around the field[/p][/quote]Realcitygents, now if you remember Odsal Tip, you will remember, the names of the both the golf club and cricket club, and where exactly the tip was. If you are referring to the origins of the stadium, then your post puts you somewhere in the age range of 79 - 90. An age when the memory does start to drift. Another disillusioned City fan. How many games now, is it without success.[/p][/quote]Depends what you define as success? Play-offs? Cup Final? Less than a year for both. The Bulls? Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 3

7:49am Wed 5 Feb 14

mumbyfan says...

Bev wrote:
Am I alone in not yet receiving season tickets, paid for in October and normally dispatched early January?
You have to pick them up..
[quote][p][bold]Bev[/bold] wrote: Am I alone in not yet receiving season tickets, paid for in October and normally dispatched early January?[/p][/quote]You have to pick them up.. mumbyfan
  • Score: -2

11:12am Wed 5 Feb 14

Bev says...

I appreciate Loyalbull1981,george
t44 andmumbyfan letting me know about need to collect tickets-I'm off shortly. A good example of usefullness of this forum for mutual support in these difficult times-thanks lads
I appreciate Loyalbull1981,george t44 andmumbyfan letting me know about need to collect tickets-I'm off shortly. A good example of usefullness of this forum for mutual support in these difficult times-thanks lads Bev
  • Score: 1

11:26am Wed 5 Feb 14

Sheffieldbull says...

Hi Bev. You could of course pick them up before the game to save you making a special journey.
Hi Bev. You could of course pick them up before the game to save you making a special journey. Sheffieldbull
  • Score: -2

2:12pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

Sheffieldbull wrote:
realcitygent wrote:
kick them out the league and turn odsal back into waste site ,i remember odsal tip fingers crossed it will be turned into one again ,its just not right grown men chasing a egg shaped ball around the field
Who let this one out?
Dunno but I wish he'd feck off and support Leeds, he's a s bad over on the City comments page.

@Man from the Pru
Another disillusioned City fan. How many games now, is it without success.

One. We gained a point the game before and sit firmly midtable.

Good luck in the coming weeks Bulls, both on and off the field, as soon as City are finished with their season I'll be up to put a bit of cash your way.
[quote][p][bold]Sheffieldbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realcitygent[/bold] wrote: kick them out the league and turn odsal back into waste site ,i remember odsal tip fingers crossed it will be turned into one again ,its just not right grown men chasing a egg shaped ball around the field[/p][/quote]Who let this one out?[/p][/quote]Dunno but I wish he'd feck off and support Leeds, he's a s bad over on the City comments page. @Man from the Pru Another disillusioned City fan. How many games now, is it without success. One. We gained a point the game before and sit firmly midtable. Good luck in the coming weeks Bulls, both on and off the field, as soon as City are finished with their season I'll be up to put a bit of cash your way. Prisoner Cell Block A
  • Score: 0

3:09pm Wed 5 Feb 14

-HCK3R- says...

Thee Voice of Reason wrote:
I'd forget about things you can't control. The RFL will do what the RFL want to do. If a punishment is dealt out then unfortunately you'll just have to take it as you can't really plead as to doing nothing wrong.
The team have 2 weeks to get things right on the pitch, that should be their sole focus at this time.
I'm sure the RFL will have various clubs in their ear at this time so even though meetings have taken place with the Bulls further meetings are probably required to satisfy all parties in the competition.
On final thing, no one club is bigger than the sport. Super League would continue without the Bulls, it would be a great shame if it did but some seem to think the Super League need the Bulls, thats wrong.
Who are you and what have you done with the real TVOR !!!.......While I normally disagree with your posts this time I agree, whats done is done its time to move on, the RFL will do what they want it will obviously please some while upsetting others, lets not forget this is the RFL there is no way of knowing what they will decide, its up to the new owners to get things right off the field and the players/coaching staff on it.
[quote][p][bold]Thee Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote: I'd forget about things you can't control. The RFL will do what the RFL want to do. If a punishment is dealt out then unfortunately you'll just have to take it as you can't really plead as to doing nothing wrong. The team have 2 weeks to get things right on the pitch, that should be their sole focus at this time. I'm sure the RFL will have various clubs in their ear at this time so even though meetings have taken place with the Bulls further meetings are probably required to satisfy all parties in the competition. On final thing, no one club is bigger than the sport. Super League would continue without the Bulls, it would be a great shame if it did but some seem to think the Super League need the Bulls, thats wrong.[/p][/quote]Who are you and what have you done with the real TVOR !!!.......While I normally disagree with your posts this time I agree, whats done is done its time to move on, the RFL will do what they want it will obviously please some while upsetting others, lets not forget this is the RFL there is no way of knowing what they will decide, its up to the new owners to get things right off the field and the players/coaching staff on it. -HCK3R-
  • Score: 2

4:58pm Wed 5 Feb 14

christinetowell456@btinternet.com says...

Bone_idle18 wrote:
They don't seem to fanny around like this where London are concerned. One minute they're on the brink, then next they move grounds and all is rosy! I suspect the RFL shoved a couple of million their way and told them to keep quiet.
hat you seem to have forgot is that the RFL have shoved millions the bulls way as well in paidwages if nothing else
[quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: They don't seem to fanny around like this where London are concerned. One minute they're on the brink, then next they move grounds and all is rosy! I suspect the RFL shoved a couple of million their way and told them to keep quiet.[/p][/quote]hat you seem to have forgot is that the RFL have shoved millions the bulls way as well in paidwages if nothing else christinetowell456@btinternet.com
  • Score: -1

5:14pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Bev says...

Thanks for idea Sheffieldbull but the fresh air did me good and Adam Henry was leaving as I arrived-he certainly looks the part!
Thanks for idea Sheffieldbull but the fresh air did me good and Adam Henry was leaving as I arrived-he certainly looks the part! Bev
  • Score: 2

7:51pm Wed 5 Feb 14

The Man From the Pru says...

Christine, I take it the 1456. Is not your IQ level, dear. I believe you are an embittered Trinity supporter or possibly a Broncos supporter. Maybe one of the many trolls on here whose had a NAME change.

If you do follow the game, I suggest you look to the ills in your own club. Before making rash remarks re Bulls. Yes we made a late payment of wages. As to RFL putting millions in, please tell me how and when. We gave up £ 1.2 million in Central Funding to remain in SL. The money being shared amongst the remaining clubs. We sold the lease on Odsal to RFL, in repayment of a debt to them.

Christine Towell, if that is your name, leave this forum to Bulls fans and our regular trolls, we know what we're talking about.
Christine, I take it the 1456. Is not your IQ level, dear. I believe you are an embittered Trinity supporter or possibly a Broncos supporter. Maybe one of the many trolls on here whose had a NAME change. If you do follow the game, I suggest you look to the ills in your own club. Before making rash remarks re Bulls. Yes we made a late payment of wages. As to RFL putting millions in, please tell me how and when. We gave up £ 1.2 million in Central Funding to remain in SL. The money being shared amongst the remaining clubs. We sold the lease on Odsal to RFL, in repayment of a debt to them. Christine Towell, if that is your name, leave this forum to Bulls fans and our regular trolls, we know what we're talking about. The Man From the Pru
  • Score: 0

7:57pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Sheffieldbull says...

christinetowell456@b
tinternet.com
wrote:
Bone_idle18 wrote:
They don't seem to fanny around like this where London are concerned. One minute they're on the brink, then next they move grounds and all is rosy! I suspect the RFL shoved a couple of million their way and told them to keep quiet.
hat you seem to have forgot is that the RFL have shoved millions the bulls way as well in paidwages if nothing else
Put up or shut up Christine - that's a pile of crap.... or produce some evidence, ..........NO, thought not!
[quote][p][bold]christinetowell456@b tinternet.com[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bone_idle18[/bold] wrote: They don't seem to fanny around like this where London are concerned. One minute they're on the brink, then next they move grounds and all is rosy! I suspect the RFL shoved a couple of million their way and told them to keep quiet.[/p][/quote]hat you seem to have forgot is that the RFL have shoved millions the bulls way as well in paidwages if nothing else[/p][/quote]Put up or shut up Christine - that's a pile of crap.... or produce some evidence, ..........NO, thought not! Sheffieldbull
  • Score: 1

8:02pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Alhaurinrhino says...

Carvell on his way out......
Carvell on his way out...... Alhaurinrhino
  • Score: 0

9:01pm Wed 5 Feb 14

The Man From the Pru says...

Fake rhino, give it a rest, he's staying, we have the funds to pay the players, we have been approached for several players, but none wished to leave, happy at Odsal. So make like the wind and blow.
Fake rhino, give it a rest, he's staying, we have the funds to pay the players, we have been approached for several players, but none wished to leave, happy at Odsal. So make like the wind and blow. The Man From the Pru
  • Score: -2

9:15pm Wed 5 Feb 14

rogerthat! says...

The Man From the Pru wrote:
Fake rhino, give it a rest, he's staying, we have the funds to pay the players, we have been approached for several players, but none wished to leave, happy at Odsal. So make like the wind and blow.
Viking WRONG, WRONG again. Can we have the TRUTH for once, no more LIES.
[quote][p][bold]The Man From the Pru[/bold] wrote: Fake rhino, give it a rest, he's staying, we have the funds to pay the players, we have been approached for several players, but none wished to leave, happy at Odsal. So make like the wind and blow.[/p][/quote]Viking WRONG, WRONG again. Can we have the TRUTH for once, no more LIES. rogerthat!
  • Score: 2

9:31pm Wed 5 Feb 14

The Man From the Pru says...

Rogerthat, wow getting mad eh. Hit a nerve have I. Money and Bulls a potent mix. What does the term " ring fenced " mean to you? To me it means, that the cash is there to pay their wages. Plus the new Directors may have increased their cash input money in.

But if you know more please enlighten all on here? My own thoughts are that you may have suffered hurt at the hands of the Hood Regime. If you're going down the creditor payment route don't bother, we are aware of what has been said. The present board must have been paying suppliers or nothing would have been available in the bars, restaurants, etc. but I await your thoughts, for what they're worth. By the way, I wish to point out to you, I AM NOT THE VIKING, that lad must have got right up your Troll noses.
Rogerthat, wow getting mad eh. Hit a nerve have I. Money and Bulls a potent mix. What does the term " ring fenced " mean to you? To me it means, that the cash is there to pay their wages. Plus the new Directors may have increased their cash input money in. But if you know more please enlighten all on here? My own thoughts are that you may have suffered hurt at the hands of the Hood Regime. If you're going down the creditor payment route don't bother, we are aware of what has been said. The present board must have been paying suppliers or nothing would have been available in the bars, restaurants, etc. but I await your thoughts, for what they're worth. By the way, I wish to point out to you, I AM NOT THE VIKING, that lad must have got right up your Troll noses. The Man From the Pru
  • Score: -3

9:54pm Wed 5 Feb 14

rogerthat! says...

The Man From the Pru wrote:
Rogerthat, wow getting mad eh. Hit a nerve have I. Money and Bulls a potent mix. What does the term " ring fenced " mean to you? To me it means, that the cash is there to pay their wages. Plus the new Directors may have increased their cash input money in.

But if you know more please enlighten all on here? My own thoughts are that you may have suffered hurt at the hands of the Hood Regime. If you're going down the creditor payment route don't bother, we are aware of what has been said. The present board must have been paying suppliers or nothing would have been available in the bars, restaurants, etc. but I await your thoughts, for what they're worth. By the way, I wish to point out to you, I AM NOT THE VIKING, that lad must have got right up your Troll noses.
News from Radio Humberside may answer your statement, Players Ring fenced. More good news Friday ?? Bring your boots you may get a game.
L O L.
[quote][p][bold]The Man From the Pru[/bold] wrote: Rogerthat, wow getting mad eh. Hit a nerve have I. Money and Bulls a potent mix. What does the term " ring fenced " mean to you? To me it means, that the cash is there to pay their wages. Plus the new Directors may have increased their cash input money in. But if you know more please enlighten all on here? My own thoughts are that you may have suffered hurt at the hands of the Hood Regime. If you're going down the creditor payment route don't bother, we are aware of what has been said. The present board must have been paying suppliers or nothing would have been available in the bars, restaurants, etc. but I await your thoughts, for what they're worth. By the way, I wish to point out to you, I AM NOT THE VIKING, that lad must have got right up your Troll noses.[/p][/quote]News from Radio Humberside may answer your statement, Players Ring fenced. More good news Friday ?? Bring your boots you may get a game. L O L. rogerthat!
  • Score: 2

12:59pm Thu 6 Feb 14

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

The Man From the Pru wrote:
Christine, I take it the 1456. Is not your IQ level, dear. I believe you are an embittered Trinity supporter or possibly a Broncos supporter. Maybe one of the many trolls on here whose had a NAME change.

If you do follow the game, I suggest you look to the ills in your own club. Before making rash remarks re Bulls. Yes we made a late payment of wages. As to RFL putting millions in, please tell me how and when. We gave up £ 1.2 million in Central Funding to remain in SL. The money being shared amongst the remaining clubs. We sold the lease on Odsal to RFL, in repayment of a debt to them.

Christine Towell, if that is your name, leave this forum to Bulls fans and our regular trolls, we know what we're talking about.
This isn't a Bulls forum, it is a comments page in a Bradford newspaper.
[quote][p][bold]The Man From the Pru[/bold] wrote: Christine, I take it the 1456. Is not your IQ level, dear. I believe you are an embittered Trinity supporter or possibly a Broncos supporter. Maybe one of the many trolls on here whose had a NAME change. If you do follow the game, I suggest you look to the ills in your own club. Before making rash remarks re Bulls. Yes we made a late payment of wages. As to RFL putting millions in, please tell me how and when. We gave up £ 1.2 million in Central Funding to remain in SL. The money being shared amongst the remaining clubs. We sold the lease on Odsal to RFL, in repayment of a debt to them. Christine Towell, if that is your name, leave this forum to Bulls fans and our regular trolls, we know what we're talking about.[/p][/quote]This isn't a Bulls forum, it is a comments page in a Bradford newspaper. Prisoner Cell Block A
  • Score: 2

2:16pm Thu 6 Feb 14

Alhaurinrhino says...

The Man From the Pru wrote:
Fake rhino, give it a rest, he's staying, we have the funds to pay the players, we have been approached for several players, but none wished to leave, happy at Odsal. So make like the wind and blow.
Apology accepted ;)
[quote][p][bold]The Man From the Pru[/bold] wrote: Fake rhino, give it a rest, he's staying, we have the funds to pay the players, we have been approached for several players, but none wished to leave, happy at Odsal. So make like the wind and blow.[/p][/quote]Apology accepted ;) Alhaurinrhino
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