Bradford Bulls coach Francis Cummins disapproves of RFL revamp

Jamie Foster runs at the Hull defence during the Bulls’ opening match of what will be a pivotal season

Jamie Foster runs at the Hull defence during the Bulls’ opening match of what will be a pivotal season

First published in Sport Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Photograph of the Author by , Bradford Bulls Reporter

A media briefing was held at the RFL’s headquarters in Leeds on Monday – tea and biscuits with Nigel Wood and Ralph Rimmer.

Over a dozen journalists packed into a room at Red Hall to hear the governing body present the case for a radical restructure of the domestic game.

Wood and Rimmer spent the best part of 90 minutes fielding a myriad of questions. At the end of it though, there was still plenty of head-scratching, quizzical looks and furrowed brows among the assembled media.

“Convoluted is the word I’ve heard most often to describe it,” said Wood of the new structure.

Francis Cummins was rather more forthcoming a couple of hours later at the Bulls’ pre-season media day.

The head coach declared: “I think it’s rubbish, personally. My concern is we’ll take our focus off promoting young players because teams will be worried about relegation.

“Teams could take money out of their academy and put it into signing a player, hoping they won’t get relegated.

“I just don’t think it’s thought through. It needs to be worked towards but there has to be criteria because we haven’t got the clubs to do it.

“There are no teams from underneath who could come up and be mid-table. I think it’s more of an idea for the television companies than the sport as a whole.”

It was clear from Monday’s briefing that there are still plenty of aspects of the new structure to be ironed out.

But few would deny that a return to promotion and relegation will generate increased interest in the game, particularly towards the business end of the campaign.

Who could forget the derby between Wakefield and Castleford on the last day of the 2006 season which determined the relegation spot?

The basic premise of the new structure is that two teams will be relegated from Super League at the end of the 2014 campaign.

Next year the top two divisions of the professional game will split into three of eight teams after 23 rounds to produce a series of crucial play-off matches to determine the make-up of Super League for 2016.

While the top eight jostle for positions ahead of a top-four play-off culminating in the Grand Final, the bottom four will join the top quartet of teams from the Championship in a middle tier which will determine the make-up of Super League for the following season.

Three teams will qualify automatically for the elite division, with the fourth and fifth clubs set to play off in a winner-takes-all clash for the 12th spot in Super League in 2016.

Wood revealed he had spoken to Scottish Professional Football League chief executive Neil Doncaster about the controversial model.

It was never taken up in Scottish football but the model was used for 15 years in Switzerland, between 1988 and 2003.

Rimmer said the RFL had consulted wide and far, using one of the largest professional services companies in the world in KPMG, before putting forward the restructure proposals in the Policy Review.

Critics have labelled the plan too complicated but the RFL hope it will lead to closer matches and more meaningful games.

Wood says the new structure will provide a halfway house between the devalued licensing system and automatic promotion and relegation.

“We had an obligation to provide a structure for well-run clubs to succeed while at the same time providing a safe and sensible way for clubs to come out of the top division which doesn’t lead to insolvency,” he said.

It has emerged that teams in the first and third tiers of the eight-club format will carry their points over from the first 23 rounds but the middle-tier teams will start from scratch.

The new structure has been much criticised but, having won over the ‘rebel’ Super League officials, Wood is confident fans will eventually accept it.

“Once people have had a chance to understand the structure, it is not that complicated,” he said.

The Bulls have said this coming season is all about “survival mode”, which basically means staying afloat off the pitch and avoiding relegation on it.

Cummins said: “Finishing third-bottom is certainly not a good goal for me. That’s not what I’m aiming for.”

If Cummins’ small squad can avoid a significant number of injuries at any one time, they can surely set their sights higher than a 12th-placed finish.

That much was evident during last weekend’s opening friendly win over Hull FC.

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7:51am Thu 23 Jan 14

bradfordbronco says...

There seems to be more questions than answers.

No 1. Who can forget the relegation battle between Wakefield and Castleford? probably not wakefield as they overspent to ensure survival then promptly went into administration!!!!
No2 How many games will teams actually play. 23 in the first round then do they play the other 7 teams home and away. That makes 12 games. 35 games in all!!.
No 3. The extra magic weekend game will now be crucial. How will the fixtures be arranged. Last year the Bulls got a hard game against Hudds whist Widnes got salford,, Catalan got London and Wakefield got Castleford. It need to be fairer this time with so much at stake.
No 4 How do clubs sell season tickets. Is it based on just 11 home games or do we get the extra games thrown in?
No 5. If the top 8 still retain the points from the 23 games the team finishing 8th is in a no win situation. They will be too far behind to catch the top 4 teams anyway. Their end of season will be meaningless.
no 6 How is the money spilt. If the 4 teams coming down are full time how will the 4 part time teams teams from the top of the championship be able to compete.
No 7 How will this system ensure no teams dont go into administration? IT WONT
No 8 How will this system help produce more younger players? IT WONT
No 9 how will this system help the game grow?. It WONT
No 10 How will this system ensure clubs can attract more sponsorship? IT WONT
No 11 How will this system give any more stability to the clubs? IT WONT
no 12. How will this system be any better than the previous one? IT WONT
no 13 What is the point in changing if this system doesn't guarantee that the game will benefit?
There seems to be more questions than answers. No 1. Who can forget the relegation battle between Wakefield and Castleford? probably not wakefield as they overspent to ensure survival then promptly went into administration!!!! No2 How many games will teams actually play. 23 in the first round then do they play the other 7 teams home and away. That makes 12 games. 35 games in all!!. No 3. The extra magic weekend game will now be crucial. How will the fixtures be arranged. Last year the Bulls got a hard game against Hudds whist Widnes got salford,, Catalan got London and Wakefield got Castleford. It need to be fairer this time with so much at stake. No 4 How do clubs sell season tickets. Is it based on just 11 home games or do we get the extra games thrown in? No 5. If the top 8 still retain the points from the 23 games the team finishing 8th is in a no win situation. They will be too far behind to catch the top 4 teams anyway. Their end of season will be meaningless. no 6 How is the money spilt. If the 4 teams coming down are full time how will the 4 part time teams teams from the top of the championship be able to compete. No 7 How will this system ensure no teams dont go into administration? IT WONT No 8 How will this system help produce more younger players? IT WONT No 9 how will this system help the game grow?. It WONT No 10 How will this system ensure clubs can attract more sponsorship? IT WONT No 11 How will this system give any more stability to the clubs? IT WONT no 12. How will this system be any better than the previous one? IT WONT no 13 What is the point in changing if this system doesn't guarantee that the game will benefit? bradfordbronco
  • Score: 18

9:43am Thu 23 Jan 14

mines a pint says...

like everything else that comes out of Red Hall it is a complete joke

Overpaid numpties that could not run a bath never mind superleague

Lets not forget the decision to allow Stobarts naming rights to the league just for painting 14 wagons in the various club colours / player photos

all that will happen here is a widening of the gap between top 4 and the rest of the clubs & as many have said clubs over spending to avoid relegation
like everything else that comes out of Red Hall it is a complete joke Overpaid numpties that could not run a bath never mind superleague Lets not forget the decision to allow Stobarts naming rights to the league just for painting 14 wagons in the various club colours / player photos all that will happen here is a widening of the gap between top 4 and the rest of the clubs & as many have said clubs over spending to avoid relegation mines a pint
  • Score: 0

12:07pm Thu 23 Jan 14

Sheffieldbull says...

bradfordbronco wrote:
There seems to be more questions than answers.

No 1. Who can forget the relegation battle between Wakefield and Castleford? probably not wakefield as they overspent to ensure survival then promptly went into administration!!!!
No2 How many games will teams actually play. 23 in the first round then do they play the other 7 teams home and away. That makes 12 games. 35 games in all!!.
No 3. The extra magic weekend game will now be crucial. How will the fixtures be arranged. Last year the Bulls got a hard game against Hudds whist Widnes got salford,, Catalan got London and Wakefield got Castleford. It need to be fairer this time with so much at stake.
No 4 How do clubs sell season tickets. Is it based on just 11 home games or do we get the extra games thrown in?
No 5. If the top 8 still retain the points from the 23 games the team finishing 8th is in a no win situation. They will be too far behind to catch the top 4 teams anyway. Their end of season will be meaningless.
no 6 How is the money spilt. If the 4 teams coming down are full time how will the 4 part time teams teams from the top of the championship be able to compete.
No 7 How will this system ensure no teams dont go into administration? IT WONT
No 8 How will this system help produce more younger players? IT WONT
No 9 how will this system help the game grow?. It WONT
No 10 How will this system ensure clubs can attract more sponsorship? IT WONT
No 11 How will this system give any more stability to the clubs? IT WONT
no 12. How will this system be any better than the previous one? IT WONT
no 13 What is the point in changing if this system doesn't guarantee that the game will benefit?
Good points bradfordbronco. Here's some more questions.. After the first 23 rounds how are the additional fixtures decided in respect of Home and Away? How can the Magic Weekend still go ahead – this ridiculous ‘fixture’ has already corrupted the League since it was introduced but the new structure will replace this ‘oddity’ with a whole batch of ‘oddities’ - uneven playing fields all over the blooming place!
How, if the details of the new ’Structure’ still have to be decided on, can they have been accepted, albeit by a majority of 1?
Has it not occurred to the RFL and SLE that the Fans are their customers / end-users but see absolutely no requirement for consultation whatsoever – how very arrogant all round!
Maybe they’ll get around to giving us some details before they ask us to buy Season Tickets, we’ll see.
[quote][p][bold]bradfordbronco[/bold] wrote: There seems to be more questions than answers. No 1. Who can forget the relegation battle between Wakefield and Castleford? probably not wakefield as they overspent to ensure survival then promptly went into administration!!!! No2 How many games will teams actually play. 23 in the first round then do they play the other 7 teams home and away. That makes 12 games. 35 games in all!!. No 3. The extra magic weekend game will now be crucial. How will the fixtures be arranged. Last year the Bulls got a hard game against Hudds whist Widnes got salford,, Catalan got London and Wakefield got Castleford. It need to be fairer this time with so much at stake. No 4 How do clubs sell season tickets. Is it based on just 11 home games or do we get the extra games thrown in? No 5. If the top 8 still retain the points from the 23 games the team finishing 8th is in a no win situation. They will be too far behind to catch the top 4 teams anyway. Their end of season will be meaningless. no 6 How is the money spilt. If the 4 teams coming down are full time how will the 4 part time teams teams from the top of the championship be able to compete. No 7 How will this system ensure no teams dont go into administration? IT WONT No 8 How will this system help produce more younger players? IT WONT No 9 how will this system help the game grow?. It WONT No 10 How will this system ensure clubs can attract more sponsorship? IT WONT No 11 How will this system give any more stability to the clubs? IT WONT no 12. How will this system be any better than the previous one? IT WONT no 13 What is the point in changing if this system doesn't guarantee that the game will benefit?[/p][/quote]Good points bradfordbronco. Here's some more questions.. After the first 23 rounds how are the additional fixtures decided in respect of Home and Away? How can the Magic Weekend still go ahead – this ridiculous ‘fixture’ has already corrupted the League since it was introduced but the new structure will replace this ‘oddity’ with a whole batch of ‘oddities’ - uneven playing fields all over the blooming place! How, if the details of the new ’Structure’ still have to be decided on, can they have been accepted, albeit by a majority of 1? Has it not occurred to the RFL and SLE that the Fans are their customers / end-users but see absolutely no requirement for consultation whatsoever – how very arrogant all round! Maybe they’ll get around to giving us some details before they ask us to buy Season Tickets, we’ll see. Sheffieldbull
  • Score: 2

12:45pm Thu 23 Jan 14

Parz says...

Sheffieldbull wrote:
bradfordbronco wrote: There seems to be more questions than answers. No 1. Who can forget the relegation battle between Wakefield and Castleford? probably not wakefield as they overspent to ensure survival then promptly went into administration!!!! No2 How many games will teams actually play. 23 in the first round then do they play the other 7 teams home and away. That makes 12 games. 35 games in all!!. No 3. The extra magic weekend game will now be crucial. How will the fixtures be arranged. Last year the Bulls got a hard game against Hudds whist Widnes got salford,, Catalan got London and Wakefield got Castleford. It need to be fairer this time with so much at stake. No 4 How do clubs sell season tickets. Is it based on just 11 home games or do we get the extra games thrown in? No 5. If the top 8 still retain the points from the 23 games the team finishing 8th is in a no win situation. They will be too far behind to catch the top 4 teams anyway. Their end of season will be meaningless. no 6 How is the money spilt. If the 4 teams coming down are full time how will the 4 part time teams teams from the top of the championship be able to compete. No 7 How will this system ensure no teams dont go into administration? IT WONT No 8 How will this system help produce more younger players? IT WONT No 9 how will this system help the game grow?. It WONT No 10 How will this system ensure clubs can attract more sponsorship? IT WONT No 11 How will this system give any more stability to the clubs? IT WONT no 12. How will this system be any better than the previous one? IT WONT no 13 What is the point in changing if this system doesn't guarantee that the game will benefit?
Good points bradfordbronco. Here's some more questions.. After the first 23 rounds how are the additional fixtures decided in respect of Home and Away? How can the Magic Weekend still go ahead – this ridiculous ‘fixture’ has already corrupted the League since it was introduced but the new structure will replace this ‘oddity’ with a whole batch of ‘oddities’ - uneven playing fields all over the blooming place! How, if the details of the new ’Structure’ still have to be decided on, can they have been accepted, albeit by a majority of 1? Has it not occurred to the RFL and SLE that the Fans are their customers / end-users but see absolutely no requirement for consultation whatsoever – how very arrogant all round! Maybe they’ll get around to giving us some details before they ask us to buy Season Tickets, we’ll see.
In regards to the home and away, in the Top 8 and third 8, the top four teams in each will get 4 home games, though there hasn't been anything to say how they will pick who they play at home and who they play away.

In the middle 8, the four clubs qualifying from the Championship (or SL1 if they change the name) will get 4 home games but again, nothing to say how they will choose who they play home and who they play away, just the number of home ties.

As for the magic weekend, I always thought they should play the derbies, or just do 1v2, 2v3, 3v4 etc for wherever teams are placed in the table following the games the weekend before the Magic Weekend.
[quote][p][bold]Sheffieldbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bradfordbronco[/bold] wrote: There seems to be more questions than answers. No 1. Who can forget the relegation battle between Wakefield and Castleford? probably not wakefield as they overspent to ensure survival then promptly went into administration!!!! No2 How many games will teams actually play. 23 in the first round then do they play the other 7 teams home and away. That makes 12 games. 35 games in all!!. No 3. The extra magic weekend game will now be crucial. How will the fixtures be arranged. Last year the Bulls got a hard game against Hudds whist Widnes got salford,, Catalan got London and Wakefield got Castleford. It need to be fairer this time with so much at stake. No 4 How do clubs sell season tickets. Is it based on just 11 home games or do we get the extra games thrown in? No 5. If the top 8 still retain the points from the 23 games the team finishing 8th is in a no win situation. They will be too far behind to catch the top 4 teams anyway. Their end of season will be meaningless. no 6 How is the money spilt. If the 4 teams coming down are full time how will the 4 part time teams teams from the top of the championship be able to compete. No 7 How will this system ensure no teams dont go into administration? IT WONT No 8 How will this system help produce more younger players? IT WONT No 9 how will this system help the game grow?. It WONT No 10 How will this system ensure clubs can attract more sponsorship? IT WONT No 11 How will this system give any more stability to the clubs? IT WONT no 12. How will this system be any better than the previous one? IT WONT no 13 What is the point in changing if this system doesn't guarantee that the game will benefit?[/p][/quote]Good points bradfordbronco. Here's some more questions.. After the first 23 rounds how are the additional fixtures decided in respect of Home and Away? How can the Magic Weekend still go ahead – this ridiculous ‘fixture’ has already corrupted the League since it was introduced but the new structure will replace this ‘oddity’ with a whole batch of ‘oddities’ - uneven playing fields all over the blooming place! How, if the details of the new ’Structure’ still have to be decided on, can they have been accepted, albeit by a majority of 1? Has it not occurred to the RFL and SLE that the Fans are their customers / end-users but see absolutely no requirement for consultation whatsoever – how very arrogant all round! Maybe they’ll get around to giving us some details before they ask us to buy Season Tickets, we’ll see.[/p][/quote]In regards to the home and away, in the Top 8 and third 8, the top four teams in each will get 4 home games, though there hasn't been anything to say how they will pick who they play at home and who they play away. In the middle 8, the four clubs qualifying from the Championship (or SL1 if they change the name) will get 4 home games but again, nothing to say how they will choose who they play home and who they play away, just the number of home ties. As for the magic weekend, I always thought they should play the derbies, or just do 1v2, 2v3, 3v4 etc for wherever teams are placed in the table following the games the weekend before the Magic Weekend. Parz
  • Score: 3

12:46pm Thu 23 Jan 14

Parz says...

Parz wrote:
Sheffieldbull wrote:
bradfordbronco wrote: There seems to be more questions than answers. No 1. Who can forget the relegation battle between Wakefield and Castleford? probably not wakefield as they overspent to ensure survival then promptly went into administration!!!! No2 How many games will teams actually play. 23 in the first round then do they play the other 7 teams home and away. That makes 12 games. 35 games in all!!. No 3. The extra magic weekend game will now be crucial. How will the fixtures be arranged. Last year the Bulls got a hard game against Hudds whist Widnes got salford,, Catalan got London and Wakefield got Castleford. It need to be fairer this time with so much at stake. No 4 How do clubs sell season tickets. Is it based on just 11 home games or do we get the extra games thrown in? No 5. If the top 8 still retain the points from the 23 games the team finishing 8th is in a no win situation. They will be too far behind to catch the top 4 teams anyway. Their end of season will be meaningless. no 6 How is the money spilt. If the 4 teams coming down are full time how will the 4 part time teams teams from the top of the championship be able to compete. No 7 How will this system ensure no teams dont go into administration? IT WONT No 8 How will this system help produce more younger players? IT WONT No 9 how will this system help the game grow?. It WONT No 10 How will this system ensure clubs can attract more sponsorship? IT WONT No 11 How will this system give any more stability to the clubs? IT WONT no 12. How will this system be any better than the previous one? IT WONT no 13 What is the point in changing if this system doesn't guarantee that the game will benefit?
Good points bradfordbronco. Here's some more questions.. After the first 23 rounds how are the additional fixtures decided in respect of Home and Away? How can the Magic Weekend still go ahead – this ridiculous ‘fixture’ has already corrupted the League since it was introduced but the new structure will replace this ‘oddity’ with a whole batch of ‘oddities’ - uneven playing fields all over the blooming place! How, if the details of the new ’Structure’ still have to be decided on, can they have been accepted, albeit by a majority of 1? Has it not occurred to the RFL and SLE that the Fans are their customers / end-users but see absolutely no requirement for consultation whatsoever – how very arrogant all round! Maybe they’ll get around to giving us some details before they ask us to buy Season Tickets, we’ll see.
In regards to the home and away, in the Top 8 and third 8, the top four teams in each will get 4 home games, though there hasn't been anything to say how they will pick who they play at home and who they play away. In the middle 8, the four clubs qualifying from the Championship (or SL1 if they change the name) will get 4 home games but again, nothing to say how they will choose who they play home and who they play away, just the number of home ties. As for the magic weekend, I always thought they should play the derbies, or just do 1v2, 2v3, 3v4 etc for wherever teams are placed in the table following the games the weekend before the Magic Weekend.
Sorry, that should be 1v2, 3v4, 5v6. Typing faster than I was thinking.
[quote][p][bold]Parz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sheffieldbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bradfordbronco[/bold] wrote: There seems to be more questions than answers. No 1. Who can forget the relegation battle between Wakefield and Castleford? probably not wakefield as they overspent to ensure survival then promptly went into administration!!!! No2 How many games will teams actually play. 23 in the first round then do they play the other 7 teams home and away. That makes 12 games. 35 games in all!!. No 3. The extra magic weekend game will now be crucial. How will the fixtures be arranged. Last year the Bulls got a hard game against Hudds whist Widnes got salford,, Catalan got London and Wakefield got Castleford. It need to be fairer this time with so much at stake. No 4 How do clubs sell season tickets. Is it based on just 11 home games or do we get the extra games thrown in? No 5. If the top 8 still retain the points from the 23 games the team finishing 8th is in a no win situation. They will be too far behind to catch the top 4 teams anyway. Their end of season will be meaningless. no 6 How is the money spilt. If the 4 teams coming down are full time how will the 4 part time teams teams from the top of the championship be able to compete. No 7 How will this system ensure no teams dont go into administration? IT WONT No 8 How will this system help produce more younger players? IT WONT No 9 how will this system help the game grow?. It WONT No 10 How will this system ensure clubs can attract more sponsorship? IT WONT No 11 How will this system give any more stability to the clubs? IT WONT no 12. How will this system be any better than the previous one? IT WONT no 13 What is the point in changing if this system doesn't guarantee that the game will benefit?[/p][/quote]Good points bradfordbronco. Here's some more questions.. After the first 23 rounds how are the additional fixtures decided in respect of Home and Away? How can the Magic Weekend still go ahead – this ridiculous ‘fixture’ has already corrupted the League since it was introduced but the new structure will replace this ‘oddity’ with a whole batch of ‘oddities’ - uneven playing fields all over the blooming place! How, if the details of the new ’Structure’ still have to be decided on, can they have been accepted, albeit by a majority of 1? Has it not occurred to the RFL and SLE that the Fans are their customers / end-users but see absolutely no requirement for consultation whatsoever – how very arrogant all round! Maybe they’ll get around to giving us some details before they ask us to buy Season Tickets, we’ll see.[/p][/quote]In regards to the home and away, in the Top 8 and third 8, the top four teams in each will get 4 home games, though there hasn't been anything to say how they will pick who they play at home and who they play away. In the middle 8, the four clubs qualifying from the Championship (or SL1 if they change the name) will get 4 home games but again, nothing to say how they will choose who they play home and who they play away, just the number of home ties. As for the magic weekend, I always thought they should play the derbies, or just do 1v2, 2v3, 3v4 etc for wherever teams are placed in the table following the games the weekend before the Magic Weekend.[/p][/quote]Sorry, that should be 1v2, 3v4, 5v6. Typing faster than I was thinking. Parz
  • Score: 3

1:38pm Thu 23 Jan 14

Sheffieldbull says...

Parz wrote:
Parz wrote:
Sheffieldbull wrote:
bradfordbronco wrote: There seems to be more questions than answers. No 1. Who can forget the relegation battle between Wakefield and Castleford? probably not wakefield as they overspent to ensure survival then promptly went into administration!!!! No2 How many games will teams actually play. 23 in the first round then do they play the other 7 teams home and away. That makes 12 games. 35 games in all!!. No 3. The extra magic weekend game will now be crucial. How will the fixtures be arranged. Last year the Bulls got a hard game against Hudds whist Widnes got salford,, Catalan got London and Wakefield got Castleford. It need to be fairer this time with so much at stake. No 4 How do clubs sell season tickets. Is it based on just 11 home games or do we get the extra games thrown in? No 5. If the top 8 still retain the points from the 23 games the team finishing 8th is in a no win situation. They will be too far behind to catch the top 4 teams anyway. Their end of season will be meaningless. no 6 How is the money spilt. If the 4 teams coming down are full time how will the 4 part time teams teams from the top of the championship be able to compete. No 7 How will this system ensure no teams dont go into administration? IT WONT No 8 How will this system help produce more younger players? IT WONT No 9 how will this system help the game grow?. It WONT No 10 How will this system ensure clubs can attract more sponsorship? IT WONT No 11 How will this system give any more stability to the clubs? IT WONT no 12. How will this system be any better than the previous one? IT WONT no 13 What is the point in changing if this system doesn't guarantee that the game will benefit?
Good points bradfordbronco. Here's some more questions.. After the first 23 rounds how are the additional fixtures decided in respect of Home and Away? How can the Magic Weekend still go ahead – this ridiculous ‘fixture’ has already corrupted the League since it was introduced but the new structure will replace this ‘oddity’ with a whole batch of ‘oddities’ - uneven playing fields all over the blooming place! How, if the details of the new ’Structure’ still have to be decided on, can they have been accepted, albeit by a majority of 1? Has it not occurred to the RFL and SLE that the Fans are their customers / end-users but see absolutely no requirement for consultation whatsoever – how very arrogant all round! Maybe they’ll get around to giving us some details before they ask us to buy Season Tickets, we’ll see.
In regards to the home and away, in the Top 8 and third 8, the top four teams in each will get 4 home games, though there hasn't been anything to say how they will pick who they play at home and who they play away. In the middle 8, the four clubs qualifying from the Championship (or SL1 if they change the name) will get 4 home games but again, nothing to say how they will choose who they play home and who they play away, just the number of home ties. As for the magic weekend, I always thought they should play the derbies, or just do 1v2, 2v3, 3v4 etc for wherever teams are placed in the table following the games the weekend before the Magic Weekend.
Sorry, that should be 1v2, 3v4, 5v6. Typing faster than I was thinking.
Cheers Parz. Re MW, it does skew the league as it must - i.e. Bulls v Giants three times and e.g. Catalan v London three times. The fairest way would be as you suggest 1v2 etc. but it still skews the League. The same imbalance seems to be expected with the new structure re Home/Away split IMO.
Why are not all the details available now?
[quote][p][bold]Parz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Parz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sheffieldbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bradfordbronco[/bold] wrote: There seems to be more questions than answers. No 1. Who can forget the relegation battle between Wakefield and Castleford? probably not wakefield as they overspent to ensure survival then promptly went into administration!!!! No2 How many games will teams actually play. 23 in the first round then do they play the other 7 teams home and away. That makes 12 games. 35 games in all!!. No 3. The extra magic weekend game will now be crucial. How will the fixtures be arranged. Last year the Bulls got a hard game against Hudds whist Widnes got salford,, Catalan got London and Wakefield got Castleford. It need to be fairer this time with so much at stake. No 4 How do clubs sell season tickets. Is it based on just 11 home games or do we get the extra games thrown in? No 5. If the top 8 still retain the points from the 23 games the team finishing 8th is in a no win situation. They will be too far behind to catch the top 4 teams anyway. Their end of season will be meaningless. no 6 How is the money spilt. If the 4 teams coming down are full time how will the 4 part time teams teams from the top of the championship be able to compete. No 7 How will this system ensure no teams dont go into administration? IT WONT No 8 How will this system help produce more younger players? IT WONT No 9 how will this system help the game grow?. It WONT No 10 How will this system ensure clubs can attract more sponsorship? IT WONT No 11 How will this system give any more stability to the clubs? IT WONT no 12. How will this system be any better than the previous one? IT WONT no 13 What is the point in changing if this system doesn't guarantee that the game will benefit?[/p][/quote]Good points bradfordbronco. Here's some more questions.. After the first 23 rounds how are the additional fixtures decided in respect of Home and Away? How can the Magic Weekend still go ahead – this ridiculous ‘fixture’ has already corrupted the League since it was introduced but the new structure will replace this ‘oddity’ with a whole batch of ‘oddities’ - uneven playing fields all over the blooming place! How, if the details of the new ’Structure’ still have to be decided on, can they have been accepted, albeit by a majority of 1? Has it not occurred to the RFL and SLE that the Fans are their customers / end-users but see absolutely no requirement for consultation whatsoever – how very arrogant all round! Maybe they’ll get around to giving us some details before they ask us to buy Season Tickets, we’ll see.[/p][/quote]In regards to the home and away, in the Top 8 and third 8, the top four teams in each will get 4 home games, though there hasn't been anything to say how they will pick who they play at home and who they play away. In the middle 8, the four clubs qualifying from the Championship (or SL1 if they change the name) will get 4 home games but again, nothing to say how they will choose who they play home and who they play away, just the number of home ties. As for the magic weekend, I always thought they should play the derbies, or just do 1v2, 2v3, 3v4 etc for wherever teams are placed in the table following the games the weekend before the Magic Weekend.[/p][/quote]Sorry, that should be 1v2, 3v4, 5v6. Typing faster than I was thinking.[/p][/quote]Cheers Parz. Re MW, it does skew the league as it must - i.e. Bulls v Giants three times and e.g. Catalan v London three times. The fairest way would be as you suggest 1v2 etc. but it still skews the League. The same imbalance seems to be expected with the new structure re Home/Away split IMO. Why are not all the details available now? Sheffieldbull
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