Frank Winterstein opts to stay in Australia and could switch codes to rugby union

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Frank Winterstein had agreed a one-year deal to play for the Bulls Frank Winterstein had agreed a one-year deal to play for the Bulls

Frank Winterstein has been released from his one-year contract with the Bulls by mutual consent.

The 27-year-old back-rower agreed to join the club in October of last year and went on to represent Samoa during the 2013 World Cup.

But the former Widnes man returned home to Australia to get married last month and is now expected to join a rugby union side Down Under.

Bulls coach Francis Cummins said: “I am disappointed to lose anyone but when I met Frank he did talk about an opportunity for him to play rugby union in Australia.

“He was keen to play out one year with us here in Super League until he got back home.

“He and his wife have just got married and I guess, for a player who has in the past witnessed financial difficulties at other clubs, the uncertainty wasn't great for him.

“If an opportunity has arisen elsewhere for him then we cannot really stand in his way, given the fact we are attempting to make cuts to our playing budget.

“It is an unfortunate situation but I believe we have adequate cover at second-row. He certainly added to our strength in depth but there are four or five guys ready to fill that gap.”

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9:30am Mon 6 Jan 14

mines a pint says...

so this is the second player contracted to the bulls who they have let go to another club without receiving any compensation

I know the club needs to save money but offloading in contract quality players without receiving a bean in compensation does not fill me with much confidence in the financial management of the club
so this is the second player contracted to the bulls who they have let go to another club without receiving any compensation I know the club needs to save money but offloading in contract quality players without receiving a bean in compensation does not fill me with much confidence in the financial management of the club mines a pint
  • Score: -11

9:45am Mon 6 Jan 14

Old Dave says...

mines a pint wrote:
so this is the second player contracted to the bulls who they have let go to another club without receiving any compensation

I know the club needs to save money but offloading in contract quality players without receiving a bean in compensation does not fill me with much confidence in the financial management of the club
are you having a laugh???

one less salary to pay! for a player who is a squad filler.
[quote][p][bold]mines a pint[/bold] wrote: so this is the second player contracted to the bulls who they have let go to another club without receiving any compensation I know the club needs to save money but offloading in contract quality players without receiving a bean in compensation does not fill me with much confidence in the financial management of the club[/p][/quote]are you having a laugh??? one less salary to pay! for a player who is a squad filler. Old Dave
  • Score: 15

10:08am Mon 6 Jan 14

bully4us says...

I am OK with this loss. I would rather lose him than any of the props and we do seem to have enough second rowers. I wonder if we will bring back Evans who would be less salary. There were many saying this lad was no good when we signed him. I bet these same people now talk about him as top quality now he has gone. To me, he was a back-up player and I still would like to see our youngsters get a run this year if they are up to it. If we have to let a few go - fringe players are the ones. Rather see him go than Carvell!
I am OK with this loss. I would rather lose him than any of the props and we do seem to have enough second rowers. I wonder if we will bring back Evans who would be less salary. There were many saying this lad was no good when we signed him. I bet these same people now talk about him as top quality now he has gone. To me, he was a back-up player and I still would like to see our youngsters get a run this year if they are up to it. If we have to let a few go - fringe players are the ones. Rather see him go than Carvell! bully4us
  • Score: 17

10:21am Mon 6 Jan 14

Videoref says...

Bear in mind he is injured and wouldn't have been playing for a while anyway, don't look upon this as a massive loss but a way of affording the better players who can play and we need to keep
Bear in mind he is injured and wouldn't have been playing for a while anyway, don't look upon this as a massive loss but a way of affording the better players who can play and we need to keep Videoref
  • Score: 20

10:25am Mon 6 Jan 14

mines a pint says...

Old Dave wrote:
mines a pint wrote:
so this is the second player contracted to the bulls who they have let go to another club without receiving any compensation

I know the club needs to save money but offloading in contract quality players without receiving a bean in compensation does not fill me with much confidence in the financial management of the club
are you having a laugh???

one less salary to pay! for a player who is a squad filler.
Am I having a laugh????? clearly you have the same financial acumen as the idiots who agree to let contracted players leave without receiving a payment for their contract

When the board announced savings had to be made they also said we would consider selling players NOT giving them away

So far they have allowed Heath to return to Aus for "family reasons" without retaining his playing contract & what a surprise within a week he had signed for another club

Squad player or not Winterstein was an asset of the club which had a value if the club did not put a value on him it begs the question why was he signed in the first place

Either way any business in financial difficulty has a responsibility to realise the maximum value for any asset it releases

There was a lot of talk by the board about running the club as a business making decisions based on financial reasoning not sentiment It now appears this only applies to the soft targets such as admin staff who do not have agents fighting their corner

the present board still needs to walk the walk as all they have done so far plenty of talking
[quote][p][bold]Old Dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mines a pint[/bold] wrote: so this is the second player contracted to the bulls who they have let go to another club without receiving any compensation I know the club needs to save money but offloading in contract quality players without receiving a bean in compensation does not fill me with much confidence in the financial management of the club[/p][/quote]are you having a laugh??? one less salary to pay! for a player who is a squad filler.[/p][/quote]Am I having a laugh????? clearly you have the same financial acumen as the idiots who agree to let contracted players leave without receiving a payment for their contract When the board announced savings had to be made they also said we would consider selling players NOT giving them away So far they have allowed Heath to return to Aus for "family reasons" without retaining his playing contract & what a surprise within a week he had signed for another club Squad player or not Winterstein was an asset of the club which had a value if the club did not put a value on him it begs the question why was he signed in the first place Either way any business in financial difficulty has a responsibility to realise the maximum value for any asset it releases There was a lot of talk by the board about running the club as a business making decisions based on financial reasoning not sentiment It now appears this only applies to the soft targets such as admin staff who do not have agents fighting their corner the present board still needs to walk the walk as all they have done so far plenty of talking mines a pint
  • Score: -12

10:37am Mon 6 Jan 14

MeccaBingo1 says...

Only just the start!

Feel sorry for fans who bought season tickets, Lies Lies Lies.
Only just the start! Feel sorry for fans who bought season tickets, Lies Lies Lies. MeccaBingo1
  • Score: -11

10:54am Mon 6 Jan 14

Sheffieldbull says...

mines a pint wrote:
Old Dave wrote:
mines a pint wrote:
so this is the second player contracted to the bulls who they have let go to another club without receiving any compensation

I know the club needs to save money but offloading in contract quality players without receiving a bean in compensation does not fill me with much confidence in the financial management of the club
are you having a laugh???

one less salary to pay! for a player who is a squad filler.
Am I having a laugh????? clearly you have the same financial acumen as the idiots who agree to let contracted players leave without receiving a payment for their contract

When the board announced savings had to be made they also said we would consider selling players NOT giving them away

So far they have allowed Heath to return to Aus for "family reasons" without retaining his playing contract & what a surprise within a week he had signed for another club

Squad player or not Winterstein was an asset of the club which had a value if the club did not put a value on him it begs the question why was he signed in the first place

Either way any business in financial difficulty has a responsibility to realise the maximum value for any asset it releases

There was a lot of talk by the board about running the club as a business making decisions based on financial reasoning not sentiment It now appears this only applies to the soft targets such as admin staff who do not have agents fighting their corner

the present board still needs to walk the walk as all they have done so far plenty of talking
To the contrary, I think this is a smart piece of business by the Bulls.
A squad player who hasn't even trained with the side, wouldn't have been able to start the season through injury and we save a salary.... yet you expect a Aussie Union club to pay us.... how much did you have mind? SBW he ain't Lets get real please.
[quote][p][bold]mines a pint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mines a pint[/bold] wrote: so this is the second player contracted to the bulls who they have let go to another club without receiving any compensation I know the club needs to save money but offloading in contract quality players without receiving a bean in compensation does not fill me with much confidence in the financial management of the club[/p][/quote]are you having a laugh??? one less salary to pay! for a player who is a squad filler.[/p][/quote]Am I having a laugh????? clearly you have the same financial acumen as the idiots who agree to let contracted players leave without receiving a payment for their contract When the board announced savings had to be made they also said we would consider selling players NOT giving them away So far they have allowed Heath to return to Aus for "family reasons" without retaining his playing contract & what a surprise within a week he had signed for another club Squad player or not Winterstein was an asset of the club which had a value if the club did not put a value on him it begs the question why was he signed in the first place Either way any business in financial difficulty has a responsibility to realise the maximum value for any asset it releases There was a lot of talk by the board about running the club as a business making decisions based on financial reasoning not sentiment It now appears this only applies to the soft targets such as admin staff who do not have agents fighting their corner the present board still needs to walk the walk as all they have done so far plenty of talking[/p][/quote]To the contrary, I think this is a smart piece of business by the Bulls. A squad player who hasn't even trained with the side, wouldn't have been able to start the season through injury and we save a salary.... yet you expect a Aussie Union club to pay us.... how much did you have mind? SBW he ain't Lets get real please. Sheffieldbull
  • Score: 15

11:05am Mon 6 Jan 14

bullybullman says...

Mines a pint - Its with mutual consent so how would any fee or compo be warranted ? also Heath had a Claus in his contract so nothing warranted there either & the saving come from not paying his wages. As for soft targets savings needed to be made asap & the staff that were released were the ones that would have the least impact & the ones where their contract did not hold any obstacles it what would happen in any business.

I’m just glad I’m not reading that Gale, Sammut or Carvell are going lets hope we can keep our quality I`m looking forward to the positive news coming on this forum things look like they might just get better this week fingers crossed.



Looking forward to the new season where every win will be a bonus & if can keep out core squad I think we will do ok this season.
Mines a pint - Its with mutual consent so how would any fee or compo be warranted ? also Heath had a Claus in his contract so nothing warranted there either & the saving come from not paying his wages. As for soft targets savings needed to be made asap & the staff that were released were the ones that would have the least impact & the ones where their contract did not hold any obstacles it what would happen in any business. I’m just glad I’m not reading that Gale, Sammut or Carvell are going lets hope we can keep our quality I`m looking forward to the positive news coming on this forum things look like they might just get better this week fingers crossed. Looking forward to the new season where every win will be a bonus & if can keep out core squad I think we will do ok this season. bullybullman
  • Score: 26

11:21am Mon 6 Jan 14

fedupwiththeBS says...

MeccaBingo1 wrote:
Only just the start!

Feel sorry for fans who bought season tickets, Lies Lies Lies.
unfortunately I feel you are right on this; the Club is now on its own as the RFL has cut its purse strings having been paying the wages since the end of last season.

We just do not have any money to pay these players so they are all going to jump at the first decent offer they get and who can blame them.

we are in a worse state than when we went into admin last time
[quote][p][bold]MeccaBingo1[/bold] wrote: Only just the start! Feel sorry for fans who bought season tickets, Lies Lies Lies.[/p][/quote]unfortunately I feel you are right on this; the Club is now on its own as the RFL has cut its purse strings having been paying the wages since the end of last season. We just do not have any money to pay these players so they are all going to jump at the first decent offer they get and who can blame them. we are in a worse state than when we went into admin last time fedupwiththeBS
  • Score: -9

11:24am Mon 6 Jan 14

rogerthat! says...

Yes, you must believe the Official statement (Duffy) he can put a spin on anything he can. Its all about the MONEY, FACT. Its ok for Aussies to break contracts without any compo, L,Estrange . FEAR more to follow,REASON????? YES TO SAVE MONEY. So why were players signed and by Who when the Club was Skint.???
Yes, you must believe the Official statement (Duffy) he can put a spin on anything he can. Its all about the MONEY, FACT. Its ok for Aussies to break contracts without any compo, L,Estrange . FEAR more to follow,REASON????? YES TO SAVE MONEY. So why were players signed and by Who when the Club was Skint.??? rogerthat!
  • Score: 1

11:38am Mon 6 Jan 14

MeccaBingo1 says...

fedupwiththeBS wrote:
MeccaBingo1 wrote:
Only just the start!

Feel sorry for fans who bought season tickets, Lies Lies Lies.
unfortunately I feel you are right on this; the Club is now on its own as the RFL has cut its purse strings having been paying the wages since the end of last season.

We just do not have any money to pay these players so they are all going to jump at the first decent offer they get and who can blame them.

we are in a worse state than when we went into admin last time
I believe we are in a worse position, Like any other failing business we have had to sell assets, (our young) players and ground etc. rely on the good will of fans and beg the RFL on a number of occasions and make people redudant twice!

The three jokers currently running the show (Exlcuding Robbie Paul) have limited success in running small time businesses and do not understand the first thing about running a rugby club ,hence asking Ryan Duckett back.

Time will show I'm correct once again!!

Carvell and Gale/Sammut will not start season with Bulls
[quote][p][bold]fedupwiththeBS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MeccaBingo1[/bold] wrote: Only just the start! Feel sorry for fans who bought season tickets, Lies Lies Lies.[/p][/quote]unfortunately I feel you are right on this; the Club is now on its own as the RFL has cut its purse strings having been paying the wages since the end of last season. We just do not have any money to pay these players so they are all going to jump at the first decent offer they get and who can blame them. we are in a worse state than when we went into admin last time[/p][/quote]I believe we are in a worse position, Like any other failing business we have had to sell assets, (our young) players and ground etc. rely on the good will of fans and beg the RFL on a number of occasions and make people redudant twice! The three jokers currently running the show (Exlcuding Robbie Paul) have limited success in running small time businesses and do not understand the first thing about running a rugby club ,hence asking Ryan Duckett back. Time will show I'm correct once again!! Carvell and Gale/Sammut will not start season with Bulls MeccaBingo1
  • Score: -5

11:46am Mon 6 Jan 14

Old Dave says...

If any player at the club was offered a contract elsewhere they would be foolish to turn it down. The fact is that most clubs have filled all of their spots. This strengthens the club's case to negotiate players salaries down and get them to take pay cuts. I am cynical in the extreme about anyone at Odsal now, and I believe that the timing of the disclosures to the public about the financial state of the club have been very carefully timed. Those having bought season tickets were only told after the early bird deadline, and those signing playing contracts were not forwarned of any issues.
I dont know how long this saga can go on without a proper benefactor coming in to save the club. It is clear that the strategy employed isnt sustainable.
If any player at the club was offered a contract elsewhere they would be foolish to turn it down. The fact is that most clubs have filled all of their spots. This strengthens the club's case to negotiate players salaries down and get them to take pay cuts. I am cynical in the extreme about anyone at Odsal now, and I believe that the timing of the disclosures to the public about the financial state of the club have been very carefully timed. Those having bought season tickets were only told after the early bird deadline, and those signing playing contracts were not forwarned of any issues. I dont know how long this saga can go on without a proper benefactor coming in to save the club. It is clear that the strategy employed isnt sustainable. Old Dave
  • Score: 12

12:02pm Mon 6 Jan 14

fedupwiththeBS says...

MeccaBingo1 wrote:
fedupwiththeBS wrote:
MeccaBingo1 wrote:
Only just the start!

Feel sorry for fans who bought season tickets, Lies Lies Lies.
unfortunately I feel you are right on this; the Club is now on its own as the RFL has cut its purse strings having been paying the wages since the end of last season.

We just do not have any money to pay these players so they are all going to jump at the first decent offer they get and who can blame them.

we are in a worse state than when we went into admin last time
I believe we are in a worse position, Like any other failing business we have had to sell assets, (our young) players and ground etc. rely on the good will of fans and beg the RFL on a number of occasions and make people redudant twice!

The three jokers currently running the show (Exlcuding Robbie Paul) have limited success in running small time businesses and do not understand the first thing about running a rugby club ,hence asking Ryan Duckett back.

Time will show I'm correct once again!!

Carvell and Gale/Sammut will not start season with Bulls
I would include RHP in sharing the blame; he has been at the centre of getting the fans to buy season tickets even though he was aware of the state the Club was in.

It would seem that no-one is running the show and it has been OK's show all along regardless of the spin and lies that have been reported on here and on the club's poor excuse for a web site.

Guess this is the reason that this season's team page has still not been updated!

We are a complete and utter joke and it needs sorting out now as we are limping to the start of the season in limbo.
[quote][p][bold]MeccaBingo1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fedupwiththeBS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MeccaBingo1[/bold] wrote: Only just the start! Feel sorry for fans who bought season tickets, Lies Lies Lies.[/p][/quote]unfortunately I feel you are right on this; the Club is now on its own as the RFL has cut its purse strings having been paying the wages since the end of last season. We just do not have any money to pay these players so they are all going to jump at the first decent offer they get and who can blame them. we are in a worse state than when we went into admin last time[/p][/quote]I believe we are in a worse position, Like any other failing business we have had to sell assets, (our young) players and ground etc. rely on the good will of fans and beg the RFL on a number of occasions and make people redudant twice! The three jokers currently running the show (Exlcuding Robbie Paul) have limited success in running small time businesses and do not understand the first thing about running a rugby club ,hence asking Ryan Duckett back. Time will show I'm correct once again!! Carvell and Gale/Sammut will not start season with Bulls[/p][/quote]I would include RHP in sharing the blame; he has been at the centre of getting the fans to buy season tickets even though he was aware of the state the Club was in. It would seem that no-one is running the show and it has been OK's show all along regardless of the spin and lies that have been reported on here and on the club's poor excuse for a web site. Guess this is the reason that this season's team page has still not been updated! We are a complete and utter joke and it needs sorting out now as we are limping to the start of the season in limbo. fedupwiththeBS
  • Score: 2

12:12pm Mon 6 Jan 14

Lapdancer says...

Frank had a lucky escape & he knows it. He's close to paddy ah van & his missus & with her being friends with bulls wives & an ex bulls employee they have inside knowledge on what's actually going on. Shame the later new signings are not privy to this as they wouldn't have signed after being misled by cummins
Frank had a lucky escape & he knows it. He's close to paddy ah van & his missus & with her being friends with bulls wives & an ex bulls employee they have inside knowledge on what's actually going on. Shame the later new signings are not privy to this as they wouldn't have signed after being misled by cummins Lapdancer
  • Score: -1

12:15pm Mon 6 Jan 14

MeccaBingo1 says...

fedupwiththeBS wrote:
MeccaBingo1 wrote:
fedupwiththeBS wrote:
MeccaBingo1 wrote:
Only just the start!

Feel sorry for fans who bought season tickets, Lies Lies Lies.
unfortunately I feel you are right on this; the Club is now on its own as the RFL has cut its purse strings having been paying the wages since the end of last season.

We just do not have any money to pay these players so they are all going to jump at the first decent offer they get and who can blame them.

we are in a worse state than when we went into admin last time
I believe we are in a worse position, Like any other failing business we have had to sell assets, (our young) players and ground etc. rely on the good will of fans and beg the RFL on a number of occasions and make people redudant twice!

The three jokers currently running the show (Exlcuding Robbie Paul) have limited success in running small time businesses and do not understand the first thing about running a rugby club ,hence asking Ryan Duckett back.

Time will show I'm correct once again!!

Carvell and Gale/Sammut will not start season with Bulls
I would include RHP in sharing the blame; he has been at the centre of getting the fans to buy season tickets even though he was aware of the state the Club was in.

It would seem that no-one is running the show and it has been OK's show all along regardless of the spin and lies that have been reported on here and on the club's poor excuse for a web site.

Guess this is the reason that this season's team page has still not been updated!

We are a complete and utter joke and it needs sorting out now as we are limping to the start of the season in limbo.
Like Ryan Duckett I feel sorry for Robbie. In my dealings with him over the years he has always seemed a good bloke as Duckett was.

Dont think Robbie will stick around for long anyway.
[quote][p][bold]fedupwiththeBS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MeccaBingo1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fedupwiththeBS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MeccaBingo1[/bold] wrote: Only just the start! Feel sorry for fans who bought season tickets, Lies Lies Lies.[/p][/quote]unfortunately I feel you are right on this; the Club is now on its own as the RFL has cut its purse strings having been paying the wages since the end of last season. We just do not have any money to pay these players so they are all going to jump at the first decent offer they get and who can blame them. we are in a worse state than when we went into admin last time[/p][/quote]I believe we are in a worse position, Like any other failing business we have had to sell assets, (our young) players and ground etc. rely on the good will of fans and beg the RFL on a number of occasions and make people redudant twice! The three jokers currently running the show (Exlcuding Robbie Paul) have limited success in running small time businesses and do not understand the first thing about running a rugby club ,hence asking Ryan Duckett back. Time will show I'm correct once again!! Carvell and Gale/Sammut will not start season with Bulls[/p][/quote]I would include RHP in sharing the blame; he has been at the centre of getting the fans to buy season tickets even though he was aware of the state the Club was in. It would seem that no-one is running the show and it has been OK's show all along regardless of the spin and lies that have been reported on here and on the club's poor excuse for a web site. Guess this is the reason that this season's team page has still not been updated! We are a complete and utter joke and it needs sorting out now as we are limping to the start of the season in limbo.[/p][/quote]Like Ryan Duckett I feel sorry for Robbie. In my dealings with him over the years he has always seemed a good bloke as Duckett was. Dont think Robbie will stick around for long anyway. MeccaBingo1
  • Score: -4

12:21pm Mon 6 Jan 14

Lapdancer says...

fedupwiththeBS wrote:
MeccaBingo1 wrote:
fedupwiththeBS wrote:
MeccaBingo1 wrote:
Only just the start!

Feel sorry for fans who bought season tickets, Lies Lies Lies.
unfortunately I feel you are right on this; the Club is now on its own as the RFL has cut its purse strings having been paying the wages since the end of last season.

We just do not have any money to pay these players so they are all going to jump at the first decent offer they get and who can blame them.

we are in a worse state than when we went into admin last time
I believe we are in a worse position, Like any other failing business we have had to sell assets, (our young) players and ground etc. rely on the good will of fans and beg the RFL on a number of occasions and make people redudant twice!

The three jokers currently running the show (Exlcuding Robbie Paul) have limited success in running small time businesses and do not understand the first thing about running a rugby club ,hence asking Ryan Duckett back.

Time will show I'm correct once again!!

Carvell and Gale/Sammut will not start season with Bulls
I would include RHP in sharing the blame; he has been at the centre of getting the fans to buy season tickets even though he was aware of the state the Club was in.

It would seem that no-one is running the show and it has been OK's show all along regardless of the spin and lies that have been reported on here and on the club's poor excuse for a web site.

Guess this is the reason that this season's team page has still not been updated!

We are a complete and utter joke and it needs sorting out now as we are limping to the start of the season in limbo.
RHP has been the MAIN person misleading the fans......
Threatening the lads with fines if they dare leak anything. Well in sorry to say but there are many moles in the bulls camp drip feeding info the other players of other teams and we are now the laughing stock of super league. The one who want to get out are 'chomping at the bit to play' in the hope another team will pick them up
[quote][p][bold]fedupwiththeBS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MeccaBingo1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fedupwiththeBS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MeccaBingo1[/bold] wrote: Only just the start! Feel sorry for fans who bought season tickets, Lies Lies Lies.[/p][/quote]unfortunately I feel you are right on this; the Club is now on its own as the RFL has cut its purse strings having been paying the wages since the end of last season. We just do not have any money to pay these players so they are all going to jump at the first decent offer they get and who can blame them. we are in a worse state than when we went into admin last time[/p][/quote]I believe we are in a worse position, Like any other failing business we have had to sell assets, (our young) players and ground etc. rely on the good will of fans and beg the RFL on a number of occasions and make people redudant twice! The three jokers currently running the show (Exlcuding Robbie Paul) have limited success in running small time businesses and do not understand the first thing about running a rugby club ,hence asking Ryan Duckett back. Time will show I'm correct once again!! Carvell and Gale/Sammut will not start season with Bulls[/p][/quote]I would include RHP in sharing the blame; he has been at the centre of getting the fans to buy season tickets even though he was aware of the state the Club was in. It would seem that no-one is running the show and it has been OK's show all along regardless of the spin and lies that have been reported on here and on the club's poor excuse for a web site. Guess this is the reason that this season's team page has still not been updated! We are a complete and utter joke and it needs sorting out now as we are limping to the start of the season in limbo.[/p][/quote]RHP has been the MAIN person misleading the fans...... Threatening the lads with fines if they dare leak anything. Well in sorry to say but there are many moles in the bulls camp drip feeding info the other players of other teams and we are now the laughing stock of super league. The one who want to get out are 'chomping at the bit to play' in the hope another team will pick them up Lapdancer
  • Score: -3

12:21pm Mon 6 Jan 14

poppastratton says...

The board could always eat a great deal of Humble Pie and go cap in hand to Sir Kenneth and his family. Now that would warrant being a fly on the wall if such a meeting ever came to fruition.
The board could always eat a great deal of Humble Pie and go cap in hand to Sir Kenneth and his family. Now that would warrant being a fly on the wall if such a meeting ever came to fruition. poppastratton
  • Score: -4

12:28pm Mon 6 Jan 14

grafter1980 says...

MeccaBingo1 wrote:
fedupwiththeBS wrote:
MeccaBingo1 wrote:
Only just the start!

Feel sorry for fans who bought season tickets, Lies Lies Lies.
unfortunately I feel you are right on this; the Club is now on its own as the RFL has cut its purse strings having been paying the wages since the end of last season.

We just do not have any money to pay these players so they are all going to jump at the first decent offer they get and who can blame them.

we are in a worse state than when we went into admin last time
I believe we are in a worse position, Like any other failing business we have had to sell assets, (our young) players and ground etc. rely on the good will of fans and beg the RFL on a number of occasions and make people redudant twice!

The three jokers currently running the show (Exlcuding Robbie Paul) have limited success in running small time businesses and do not understand the first thing about running a rugby club ,hence asking Ryan Duckett back.

Time will show I'm correct once again!!

Carvell and Gale/Sammut will not start season with Bulls
I agree with what you saying, but with regards to blaming the current Directors. they didn't sign player they couldn't afford, run up unmanageable debt and agree to a funding cut on the assumption they would get round it at a later date
[quote][p][bold]MeccaBingo1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fedupwiththeBS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MeccaBingo1[/bold] wrote: Only just the start! Feel sorry for fans who bought season tickets, Lies Lies Lies.[/p][/quote]unfortunately I feel you are right on this; the Club is now on its own as the RFL has cut its purse strings having been paying the wages since the end of last season. We just do not have any money to pay these players so they are all going to jump at the first decent offer they get and who can blame them. we are in a worse state than when we went into admin last time[/p][/quote]I believe we are in a worse position, Like any other failing business we have had to sell assets, (our young) players and ground etc. rely on the good will of fans and beg the RFL on a number of occasions and make people redudant twice! The three jokers currently running the show (Exlcuding Robbie Paul) have limited success in running small time businesses and do not understand the first thing about running a rugby club ,hence asking Ryan Duckett back. Time will show I'm correct once again!! Carvell and Gale/Sammut will not start season with Bulls[/p][/quote]I agree with what you saying, but with regards to blaming the current Directors. they didn't sign player they couldn't afford, run up unmanageable debt and agree to a funding cut on the assumption they would get round it at a later date grafter1980
  • Score: 11

12:29pm Mon 6 Jan 14

bartsbull says...

Sorry to see any player go but he would not have played for a long while and we would still have had to pay wages so this is good business
it also gives one of the others guys a chance to play plus we may be able to get evans backs

A transfer fee would be out of the question he as not played or trained with the squad so some of the remarks made are out of line i would like to see the major players retained even if it means loosing some fringe players
although i would like to see all the squad retained but sacrifices may have to be made as long as we can compete so coyb
Sorry to see any player go but he would not have played for a long while and we would still have had to pay wages so this is good business it also gives one of the others guys a chance to play plus we may be able to get evans backs A transfer fee would be out of the question he as not played or trained with the squad so some of the remarks made are out of line i would like to see the major players retained even if it means loosing some fringe players although i would like to see all the squad retained but sacrifices may have to be made as long as we can compete so coyb bartsbull
  • Score: 5

12:44pm Mon 6 Jan 14

flashdonut says...

ss
ss flashdonut
  • Score: -10

12:50pm Mon 6 Jan 14

flashdonut says...

mines a pint wrote:
Old Dave wrote:
mines a pint wrote:
so this is the second player contracted to the bulls who they have let go to another club without receiving any compensation

I know the club needs to save money but offloading in contract quality players without receiving a bean in compensation does not fill me with much confidence in the financial management of the club
are you having a laugh???

one less salary to pay! for a player who is a squad filler.
Am I having a laugh????? clearly you have the same financial acumen as the idiots who agree to let contracted players leave without receiving a payment for their contract

When the board announced savings had to be made they also said we would consider selling players NOT giving them away

So far they have allowed Heath to return to Aus for "family reasons" without retaining his playing contract & what a surprise within a week he had signed for another club

Squad player or not Winterstein was an asset of the club which had a value if the club did not put a value on him it begs the question why was he signed in the first place

Either way any business in financial difficulty has a responsibility to realise the maximum value for any asset it releases

There was a lot of talk by the board about running the club as a business making decisions based on financial reasoning not sentiment It now appears this only applies to the soft targets such as admin staff who do not have agents fighting their corner

the present board still needs to walk the walk as all they have done so far plenty of talking
It is refeshing to see a person to speak with honesty. We are a bunch of push overs. Home grown BRADFORD lads EW, Kopz and Bateman walk out on us (don't forget Naughton). Players allowed to leave willy nilly. There's no good business here. How is there? There's no busness taking place!!! It is a player brought in to replace the above getting a better offer, and thus leaving. Anybody that thinks the contiued abandonmet of our Once Graeat Club by contracted players is 'good buiness' is frankly one sandwich short of a pic-nic.
[quote][p][bold]mines a pint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mines a pint[/bold] wrote: so this is the second player contracted to the bulls who they have let go to another club without receiving any compensation I know the club needs to save money but offloading in contract quality players without receiving a bean in compensation does not fill me with much confidence in the financial management of the club[/p][/quote]are you having a laugh??? one less salary to pay! for a player who is a squad filler.[/p][/quote]Am I having a laugh????? clearly you have the same financial acumen as the idiots who agree to let contracted players leave without receiving a payment for their contract When the board announced savings had to be made they also said we would consider selling players NOT giving them away So far they have allowed Heath to return to Aus for "family reasons" without retaining his playing contract & what a surprise within a week he had signed for another club Squad player or not Winterstein was an asset of the club which had a value if the club did not put a value on him it begs the question why was he signed in the first place Either way any business in financial difficulty has a responsibility to realise the maximum value for any asset it releases There was a lot of talk by the board about running the club as a business making decisions based on financial reasoning not sentiment It now appears this only applies to the soft targets such as admin staff who do not have agents fighting their corner the present board still needs to walk the walk as all they have done so far plenty of talking[/p][/quote]It is refeshing to see a person to speak with honesty. We are a bunch of push overs. Home grown BRADFORD lads EW, Kopz and Bateman walk out on us (don't forget Naughton). Players allowed to leave willy nilly. There's no good business here. How is there? There's no busness taking place!!! It is a player brought in to replace the above getting a better offer, and thus leaving. Anybody that thinks the contiued abandonmet of our Once Graeat Club by contracted players is 'good buiness' is frankly one sandwich short of a pic-nic. flashdonut
  • Score: -3

1:59pm Mon 6 Jan 14

Scrouge says...

flashdonut wrote:
mines a pint wrote:
Old Dave wrote:
mines a pint wrote:
so this is the second player contracted to the bulls who they have let go to another club without receiving any compensation

I know the club needs to save money but offloading in contract quality players without receiving a bean in compensation does not fill me with much confidence in the financial management of the club
are you having a laugh???

one less salary to pay! for a player who is a squad filler.
Am I having a laugh????? clearly you have the same financial acumen as the idiots who agree to let contracted players leave without receiving a payment for their contract

When the board announced savings had to be made they also said we would consider selling players NOT giving them away

So far they have allowed Heath to return to Aus for "family reasons" without retaining his playing contract & what a surprise within a week he had signed for another club

Squad player or not Winterstein was an asset of the club which had a value if the club did not put a value on him it begs the question why was he signed in the first place

Either way any business in financial difficulty has a responsibility to realise the maximum value for any asset it releases

There was a lot of talk by the board about running the club as a business making decisions based on financial reasoning not sentiment It now appears this only applies to the soft targets such as admin staff who do not have agents fighting their corner

the present board still needs to walk the walk as all they have done so far plenty of talking
It is refeshing to see a person to speak with honesty. We are a bunch of push overs. Home grown BRADFORD lads EW, Kopz and Bateman walk out on us (don't forget Naughton). Players allowed to leave willy nilly. There's no good business here. How is there? There's no busness taking place!!! It is a player brought in to replace the above getting a better offer, and thus leaving. Anybody that thinks the contiued abandonmet of our Once Graeat Club by contracted players is 'good buiness' is frankly one sandwich short of a pic-nic.
Yes you are spot on. All kicked off when Local Players left and the lies and vile comments followed . It seems they knew more at what was going on than we Fans. Now the so called Management sign Players then decide they cannot afford them so cancel the contracts and make up excuses.
What is going on at Bulls you could not make up, RHP is up to his neck in it and should get out.
[quote][p][bold]flashdonut[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mines a pint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mines a pint[/bold] wrote: so this is the second player contracted to the bulls who they have let go to another club without receiving any compensation I know the club needs to save money but offloading in contract quality players without receiving a bean in compensation does not fill me with much confidence in the financial management of the club[/p][/quote]are you having a laugh??? one less salary to pay! for a player who is a squad filler.[/p][/quote]Am I having a laugh????? clearly you have the same financial acumen as the idiots who agree to let contracted players leave without receiving a payment for their contract When the board announced savings had to be made they also said we would consider selling players NOT giving them away So far they have allowed Heath to return to Aus for "family reasons" without retaining his playing contract & what a surprise within a week he had signed for another club Squad player or not Winterstein was an asset of the club which had a value if the club did not put a value on him it begs the question why was he signed in the first place Either way any business in financial difficulty has a responsibility to realise the maximum value for any asset it releases There was a lot of talk by the board about running the club as a business making decisions based on financial reasoning not sentiment It now appears this only applies to the soft targets such as admin staff who do not have agents fighting their corner the present board still needs to walk the walk as all they have done so far plenty of talking[/p][/quote]It is refeshing to see a person to speak with honesty. We are a bunch of push overs. Home grown BRADFORD lads EW, Kopz and Bateman walk out on us (don't forget Naughton). Players allowed to leave willy nilly. There's no good business here. How is there? There's no busness taking place!!! It is a player brought in to replace the above getting a better offer, and thus leaving. Anybody that thinks the contiued abandonmet of our Once Graeat Club by contracted players is 'good buiness' is frankly one sandwich short of a pic-nic.[/p][/quote]Yes you are spot on. All kicked off when Local Players left and the lies and vile comments followed . It seems they knew more at what was going on than we Fans. Now the so called Management sign Players then decide they cannot afford them so cancel the contracts and make up excuses. What is going on at Bulls you could not make up, RHP is up to his neck in it and should get out. Scrouge
  • Score: -2

2:19pm Mon 6 Jan 14

Solomon Grundy says...

MeccaBingo1 wrote:
Only just the start!

Feel sorry for fans who bought season tickets, Lies Lies Lies.
Oh shush. It's so boring.
[quote][p][bold]MeccaBingo1[/bold] wrote: Only just the start! Feel sorry for fans who bought season tickets, Lies Lies Lies.[/p][/quote]Oh shush. It's so boring. Solomon Grundy
  • Score: 6

2:21pm Mon 6 Jan 14

grafter1980 says...

Scrouge wrote:
flashdonut wrote:
mines a pint wrote:
Old Dave wrote:
mines a pint wrote:
so this is the second player contracted to the bulls who they have let go to another club without receiving any compensation

I know the club needs to save money but offloading in contract quality players without receiving a bean in compensation does not fill me with much confidence in the financial management of the club
are you having a laugh???

one less salary to pay! for a player who is a squad filler.
Am I having a laugh????? clearly you have the same financial acumen as the idiots who agree to let contracted players leave without receiving a payment for their contract

When the board announced savings had to be made they also said we would consider selling players NOT giving them away

So far they have allowed Heath to return to Aus for "family reasons" without retaining his playing contract & what a surprise within a week he had signed for another club

Squad player or not Winterstein was an asset of the club which had a value if the club did not put a value on him it begs the question why was he signed in the first place

Either way any business in financial difficulty has a responsibility to realise the maximum value for any asset it releases

There was a lot of talk by the board about running the club as a business making decisions based on financial reasoning not sentiment It now appears this only applies to the soft targets such as admin staff who do not have agents fighting their corner

the present board still needs to walk the walk as all they have done so far plenty of talking
It is refeshing to see a person to speak with honesty. We are a bunch of push overs. Home grown BRADFORD lads EW, Kopz and Bateman walk out on us (don't forget Naughton). Players allowed to leave willy nilly. There's no good business here. How is there? There's no busness taking place!!! It is a player brought in to replace the above getting a better offer, and thus leaving. Anybody that thinks the contiued abandonmet of our Once Graeat Club by contracted players is 'good buiness' is frankly one sandwich short of a pic-nic.
Yes you are spot on. All kicked off when Local Players left and the lies and vile comments followed . It seems they knew more at what was going on than we Fans. Now the so called Management sign Players then decide they cannot afford them so cancel the contracts and make up excuses.
What is going on at Bulls you could not make up, RHP is up to his neck in it and should get out.
all players were signed by the previous Directors. All debts run up last year. Okay RHP was in attendance but he's never been a Director. Get the impression reading this string that OK/Sutcliffe have been successful in shifting blame onto other people.
[quote][p][bold]Scrouge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]flashdonut[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mines a pint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mines a pint[/bold] wrote: so this is the second player contracted to the bulls who they have let go to another club without receiving any compensation I know the club needs to save money but offloading in contract quality players without receiving a bean in compensation does not fill me with much confidence in the financial management of the club[/p][/quote]are you having a laugh??? one less salary to pay! for a player who is a squad filler.[/p][/quote]Am I having a laugh????? clearly you have the same financial acumen as the idiots who agree to let contracted players leave without receiving a payment for their contract When the board announced savings had to be made they also said we would consider selling players NOT giving them away So far they have allowed Heath to return to Aus for "family reasons" without retaining his playing contract & what a surprise within a week he had signed for another club Squad player or not Winterstein was an asset of the club which had a value if the club did not put a value on him it begs the question why was he signed in the first place Either way any business in financial difficulty has a responsibility to realise the maximum value for any asset it releases There was a lot of talk by the board about running the club as a business making decisions based on financial reasoning not sentiment It now appears this only applies to the soft targets such as admin staff who do not have agents fighting their corner the present board still needs to walk the walk as all they have done so far plenty of talking[/p][/quote]It is refeshing to see a person to speak with honesty. We are a bunch of push overs. Home grown BRADFORD lads EW, Kopz and Bateman walk out on us (don't forget Naughton). Players allowed to leave willy nilly. There's no good business here. How is there? There's no busness taking place!!! It is a player brought in to replace the above getting a better offer, and thus leaving. Anybody that thinks the contiued abandonmet of our Once Graeat Club by contracted players is 'good buiness' is frankly one sandwich short of a pic-nic.[/p][/quote]Yes you are spot on. All kicked off when Local Players left and the lies and vile comments followed . It seems they knew more at what was going on than we Fans. Now the so called Management sign Players then decide they cannot afford them so cancel the contracts and make up excuses. What is going on at Bulls you could not make up, RHP is up to his neck in it and should get out.[/p][/quote]all players were signed by the previous Directors. All debts run up last year. Okay RHP was in attendance but he's never been a Director. Get the impression reading this string that OK/Sutcliffe have been successful in shifting blame onto other people. grafter1980
  • Score: 7

2:36pm Mon 6 Jan 14

tinytoonster says...

grafter1980 wrote:
MeccaBingo1 wrote:
fedupwiththeBS wrote:
MeccaBingo1 wrote:
Only just the start!

Feel sorry for fans who bought season tickets, Lies Lies Lies.
unfortunately I feel you are right on this; the Club is now on its own as the RFL has cut its purse strings having been paying the wages since the end of last season.

We just do not have any money to pay these players so they are all going to jump at the first decent offer they get and who can blame them.

we are in a worse state than when we went into admin last time
I believe we are in a worse position, Like any other failing business we have had to sell assets, (our young) players and ground etc. rely on the good will of fans and beg the RFL on a number of occasions and make people redudant twice!

The three jokers currently running the show (Exlcuding Robbie Paul) have limited success in running small time businesses and do not understand the first thing about running a rugby club ,hence asking Ryan Duckett back.

Time will show I'm correct once again!!

Carvell and Gale/Sammut will not start season with Bulls
I agree with what you saying, but with regards to blaming the current Directors. they didn't sign player they couldn't afford, run up unmanageable debt and agree to a funding cut on the assumption they would get round it at a later date
no they just reneged on paying ok his money and are that stupid they CLAIMED they did not know about debts!
even when buying just a car our house you get a detailed background check!
and people think they are good businessmen?
i await the rose tinted replies and accusations about trolls etc....
[quote][p][bold]grafter1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MeccaBingo1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fedupwiththeBS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MeccaBingo1[/bold] wrote: Only just the start! Feel sorry for fans who bought season tickets, Lies Lies Lies.[/p][/quote]unfortunately I feel you are right on this; the Club is now on its own as the RFL has cut its purse strings having been paying the wages since the end of last season. We just do not have any money to pay these players so they are all going to jump at the first decent offer they get and who can blame them. we are in a worse state than when we went into admin last time[/p][/quote]I believe we are in a worse position, Like any other failing business we have had to sell assets, (our young) players and ground etc. rely on the good will of fans and beg the RFL on a number of occasions and make people redudant twice! The three jokers currently running the show (Exlcuding Robbie Paul) have limited success in running small time businesses and do not understand the first thing about running a rugby club ,hence asking Ryan Duckett back. Time will show I'm correct once again!! Carvell and Gale/Sammut will not start season with Bulls[/p][/quote]I agree with what you saying, but with regards to blaming the current Directors. they didn't sign player they couldn't afford, run up unmanageable debt and agree to a funding cut on the assumption they would get round it at a later date[/p][/quote]no they just reneged on paying ok his money and are that stupid they CLAIMED they did not know about debts! even when buying just a car our house you get a detailed background check! and people think they are good businessmen? i await the rose tinted replies and accusations about trolls etc.... tinytoonster
  • Score: -5

2:57pm Mon 6 Jan 14

collos25 says...

mines a pint wrote:
Old Dave wrote:
mines a pint wrote:
so this is the second player contracted to the bulls who they have let go to another club without receiving any compensation

I know the club needs to save money but offloading in contract quality players without receiving a bean in compensation does not fill me with much confidence in the financial management of the club
are you having a laugh???

one less salary to pay! for a player who is a squad filler.
Am I having a laugh????? clearly you have the same financial acumen as the idiots who agree to let contracted players leave without receiving a payment for their contract

When the board announced savings had to be made they also said we would consider selling players NOT giving them away

So far they have allowed Heath to return to Aus for "family reasons" without retaining his playing contract & what a surprise within a week he had signed for another club

Squad player or not Winterstein was an asset of the club which had a value if the club did not put a value on him it begs the question why was he signed in the first place

Either way any business in financial difficulty has a responsibility to realise the maximum value for any asset it releases

There was a lot of talk by the board about running the club as a business making decisions based on financial reasoning not sentiment It now appears this only applies to the soft targets such as admin staff who do not have agents fighting their corner

the present board still needs to walk the walk as all they have done so far plenty of talking
And you are a world leading authority of the financial status of BBs ,a simple rule if it costs you money and its worth nothing get rid exactly what they have done.
[quote][p][bold]mines a pint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mines a pint[/bold] wrote: so this is the second player contracted to the bulls who they have let go to another club without receiving any compensation I know the club needs to save money but offloading in contract quality players without receiving a bean in compensation does not fill me with much confidence in the financial management of the club[/p][/quote]are you having a laugh??? one less salary to pay! for a player who is a squad filler.[/p][/quote]Am I having a laugh????? clearly you have the same financial acumen as the idiots who agree to let contracted players leave without receiving a payment for their contract When the board announced savings had to be made they also said we would consider selling players NOT giving them away So far they have allowed Heath to return to Aus for "family reasons" without retaining his playing contract & what a surprise within a week he had signed for another club Squad player or not Winterstein was an asset of the club which had a value if the club did not put a value on him it begs the question why was he signed in the first place Either way any business in financial difficulty has a responsibility to realise the maximum value for any asset it releases There was a lot of talk by the board about running the club as a business making decisions based on financial reasoning not sentiment It now appears this only applies to the soft targets such as admin staff who do not have agents fighting their corner the present board still needs to walk the walk as all they have done so far plenty of talking[/p][/quote]And you are a world leading authority of the financial status of BBs ,a simple rule if it costs you money and its worth nothing get rid exactly what they have done. collos25
  • Score: 8

3:08pm Mon 6 Jan 14

grafter1980 says...

tinytoonster wrote:
grafter1980 wrote:
MeccaBingo1 wrote:
fedupwiththeBS wrote:
MeccaBingo1 wrote:
Only just the start!

Feel sorry for fans who bought season tickets, Lies Lies Lies.
unfortunately I feel you are right on this; the Club is now on its own as the RFL has cut its purse strings having been paying the wages since the end of last season.

We just do not have any money to pay these players so they are all going to jump at the first decent offer they get and who can blame them.

we are in a worse state than when we went into admin last time
I believe we are in a worse position, Like any other failing business we have had to sell assets, (our young) players and ground etc. rely on the good will of fans and beg the RFL on a number of occasions and make people redudant twice!

The three jokers currently running the show (Exlcuding Robbie Paul) have limited success in running small time businesses and do not understand the first thing about running a rugby club ,hence asking Ryan Duckett back.

Time will show I'm correct once again!!

Carvell and Gale/Sammut will not start season with Bulls
I agree with what you saying, but with regards to blaming the current Directors. they didn't sign player they couldn't afford, run up unmanageable debt and agree to a funding cut on the assumption they would get round it at a later date
no they just reneged on paying ok his money and are that stupid they CLAIMED they did not know about debts!
even when buying just a car our house you get a detailed background check!
and people think they are good businessmen?
i await the rose tinted replies and accusations about trolls etc....
So in your opinion Watt/Calvert/Moore have done more to damage Bulls chances of fielding a competitive team this season and next than OK/Sutcliffe and previous Directors?
[quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]grafter1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MeccaBingo1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fedupwiththeBS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MeccaBingo1[/bold] wrote: Only just the start! Feel sorry for fans who bought season tickets, Lies Lies Lies.[/p][/quote]unfortunately I feel you are right on this; the Club is now on its own as the RFL has cut its purse strings having been paying the wages since the end of last season. We just do not have any money to pay these players so they are all going to jump at the first decent offer they get and who can blame them. we are in a worse state than when we went into admin last time[/p][/quote]I believe we are in a worse position, Like any other failing business we have had to sell assets, (our young) players and ground etc. rely on the good will of fans and beg the RFL on a number of occasions and make people redudant twice! The three jokers currently running the show (Exlcuding Robbie Paul) have limited success in running small time businesses and do not understand the first thing about running a rugby club ,hence asking Ryan Duckett back. Time will show I'm correct once again!! Carvell and Gale/Sammut will not start season with Bulls[/p][/quote]I agree with what you saying, but with regards to blaming the current Directors. they didn't sign player they couldn't afford, run up unmanageable debt and agree to a funding cut on the assumption they would get round it at a later date[/p][/quote]no they just reneged on paying ok his money and are that stupid they CLAIMED they did not know about debts! even when buying just a car our house you get a detailed background check! and people think they are good businessmen? i await the rose tinted replies and accusations about trolls etc....[/p][/quote]So in your opinion Watt/Calvert/Moore have done more to damage Bulls chances of fielding a competitive team this season and next than OK/Sutcliffe and previous Directors? grafter1980
  • Score: 10

3:34pm Mon 6 Jan 14

mines a pint says...

collos25 wrote:
mines a pint wrote:
Old Dave wrote:
mines a pint wrote:
so this is the second player contracted to the bulls who they have let go to another club without receiving any compensation

I know the club needs to save money but offloading in contract quality players without receiving a bean in compensation does not fill me with much confidence in the financial management of the club
are you having a laugh???

one less salary to pay! for a player who is a squad filler.
Am I having a laugh????? clearly you have the same financial acumen as the idiots who agree to let contracted players leave without receiving a payment for their contract

When the board announced savings had to be made they also said we would consider selling players NOT giving them away

So far they have allowed Heath to return to Aus for "family reasons" without retaining his playing contract & what a surprise within a week he had signed for another club

Squad player or not Winterstein was an asset of the club which had a value if the club did not put a value on him it begs the question why was he signed in the first place

Either way any business in financial difficulty has a responsibility to realise the maximum value for any asset it releases

There was a lot of talk by the board about running the club as a business making decisions based on financial reasoning not sentiment It now appears this only applies to the soft targets such as admin staff who do not have agents fighting their corner

the present board still needs to walk the walk as all they have done so far plenty of talking
And you are a world leading authority of the financial status of BBs ,a simple rule if it costs you money and its worth nothing get rid exactly what they have done.
if winterstein was worth nothing he would not have found a new club so easily

truth is he went home to "recuperate" saw the farce at the bulls unravel in the most public of fashions & decided he wanted none of it

He tapped up his union contact & brought forward his move by a year (read the article it clearly states he was signed for a year as he intended to join a union club for 2015)

If the management of the club had any backbone then they would have said go by all means but there will be a price to release you from your contract

All the rest is just more BS if there are 4 or 5 waiting to fill his spot why on earth was he signed in the first place when FC knew he had a limited playing budget

Just further examples of bad decisions & bad management throughout the club
[quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mines a pint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mines a pint[/bold] wrote: so this is the second player contracted to the bulls who they have let go to another club without receiving any compensation I know the club needs to save money but offloading in contract quality players without receiving a bean in compensation does not fill me with much confidence in the financial management of the club[/p][/quote]are you having a laugh??? one less salary to pay! for a player who is a squad filler.[/p][/quote]Am I having a laugh????? clearly you have the same financial acumen as the idiots who agree to let contracted players leave without receiving a payment for their contract When the board announced savings had to be made they also said we would consider selling players NOT giving them away So far they have allowed Heath to return to Aus for "family reasons" without retaining his playing contract & what a surprise within a week he had signed for another club Squad player or not Winterstein was an asset of the club which had a value if the club did not put a value on him it begs the question why was he signed in the first place Either way any business in financial difficulty has a responsibility to realise the maximum value for any asset it releases There was a lot of talk by the board about running the club as a business making decisions based on financial reasoning not sentiment It now appears this only applies to the soft targets such as admin staff who do not have agents fighting their corner the present board still needs to walk the walk as all they have done so far plenty of talking[/p][/quote]And you are a world leading authority of the financial status of BBs ,a simple rule if it costs you money and its worth nothing get rid exactly what they have done.[/p][/quote]if winterstein was worth nothing he would not have found a new club so easily truth is he went home to "recuperate" saw the farce at the bulls unravel in the most public of fashions & decided he wanted none of it He tapped up his union contact & brought forward his move by a year (read the article it clearly states he was signed for a year as he intended to join a union club for 2015) If the management of the club had any backbone then they would have said go by all means but there will be a price to release you from your contract All the rest is just more BS if there are 4 or 5 waiting to fill his spot why on earth was he signed in the first place when FC knew he had a limited playing budget Just further examples of bad decisions & bad management throughout the club mines a pint
  • Score: 0

3:40pm Mon 6 Jan 14

Solomon Grundy says...

The man who destroyed the Bulls is called Peter Hood. He is long gone.

The people who have come in since are only trying to pick up the pieces and resurrect the brand. The best of luck to them.
The man who destroyed the Bulls is called Peter Hood. He is long gone. The people who have come in since are only trying to pick up the pieces and resurrect the brand. The best of luck to them. Solomon Grundy
  • Score: 7

4:05pm Mon 6 Jan 14

tinytoonster says...

grafter1980 wrote:
tinytoonster wrote:
grafter1980 wrote:
MeccaBingo1 wrote:
fedupwiththeBS wrote:
MeccaBingo1 wrote:
Only just the start!

Feel sorry for fans who bought season tickets, Lies Lies Lies.
unfortunately I feel you are right on this; the Club is now on its own as the RFL has cut its purse strings having been paying the wages since the end of last season.

We just do not have any money to pay these players so they are all going to jump at the first decent offer they get and who can blame them.

we are in a worse state than when we went into admin last time
I believe we are in a worse position, Like any other failing business we have had to sell assets, (our young) players and ground etc. rely on the good will of fans and beg the RFL on a number of occasions and make people redudant twice!

The three jokers currently running the show (Exlcuding Robbie Paul) have limited success in running small time businesses and do not understand the first thing about running a rugby club ,hence asking Ryan Duckett back.

Time will show I'm correct once again!!

Carvell and Gale/Sammut will not start season with Bulls
I agree with what you saying, but with regards to blaming the current Directors. they didn't sign player they couldn't afford, run up unmanageable debt and agree to a funding cut on the assumption they would get round it at a later date
no they just reneged on paying ok his money and are that stupid they CLAIMED they did not know about debts!
even when buying just a car our house you get a detailed background check!
and people think they are good businessmen?
i await the rose tinted replies and accusations about trolls etc....
So in your opinion Watt/Calvert/Moore have done more to damage Bulls chances of fielding a competitive team this season and next than OK/Sutcliffe and previous Directors?
i do not know all the facts so i cannot give an answer to that.
i am just saying you do not buy something without checking first and they promised to pay him.
we are stuck in limbo because no one knows who owns the club so no way to scrape away the mess and move on.
if they cannot afford to take the club forward why try buying it?
the fans could have taken over the club if it was free!!
i am sure there is some intelligent fans who could sort it out.
[quote][p][bold]grafter1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]grafter1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MeccaBingo1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fedupwiththeBS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MeccaBingo1[/bold] wrote: Only just the start! Feel sorry for fans who bought season tickets, Lies Lies Lies.[/p][/quote]unfortunately I feel you are right on this; the Club is now on its own as the RFL has cut its purse strings having been paying the wages since the end of last season. We just do not have any money to pay these players so they are all going to jump at the first decent offer they get and who can blame them. we are in a worse state than when we went into admin last time[/p][/quote]I believe we are in a worse position, Like any other failing business we have had to sell assets, (our young) players and ground etc. rely on the good will of fans and beg the RFL on a number of occasions and make people redudant twice! The three jokers currently running the show (Exlcuding Robbie Paul) have limited success in running small time businesses and do not understand the first thing about running a rugby club ,hence asking Ryan Duckett back. Time will show I'm correct once again!! Carvell and Gale/Sammut will not start season with Bulls[/p][/quote]I agree with what you saying, but with regards to blaming the current Directors. they didn't sign player they couldn't afford, run up unmanageable debt and agree to a funding cut on the assumption they would get round it at a later date[/p][/quote]no they just reneged on paying ok his money and are that stupid they CLAIMED they did not know about debts! even when buying just a car our house you get a detailed background check! and people think they are good businessmen? i await the rose tinted replies and accusations about trolls etc....[/p][/quote]So in your opinion Watt/Calvert/Moore have done more to damage Bulls chances of fielding a competitive team this season and next than OK/Sutcliffe and previous Directors?[/p][/quote]i do not know all the facts so i cannot give an answer to that. i am just saying you do not buy something without checking first and they promised to pay him. we are stuck in limbo because no one knows who owns the club so no way to scrape away the mess and move on. if they cannot afford to take the club forward why try buying it? the fans could have taken over the club if it was free!! i am sure there is some intelligent fans who could sort it out. tinytoonster
  • Score: -5

4:05pm Mon 6 Jan 14

collos25 says...

mines a pint wrote:
collos25 wrote:
mines a pint wrote:
Old Dave wrote:
mines a pint wrote:
so this is the second player contracted to the bulls who they have let go to another club without receiving any compensation

I know the club needs to save money but offloading in contract quality players without receiving a bean in compensation does not fill me with much confidence in the financial management of the club
are you having a laugh???

one less salary to pay! for a player who is a squad filler.
Am I having a laugh????? clearly you have the same financial acumen as the idiots who agree to let contracted players leave without receiving a payment for their contract

When the board announced savings had to be made they also said we would consider selling players NOT giving them away

So far they have allowed Heath to return to Aus for "family reasons" without retaining his playing contract & what a surprise within a week he had signed for another club

Squad player or not Winterstein was an asset of the club which had a value if the club did not put a value on him it begs the question why was he signed in the first place

Either way any business in financial difficulty has a responsibility to realise the maximum value for any asset it releases

There was a lot of talk by the board about running the club as a business making decisions based on financial reasoning not sentiment It now appears this only applies to the soft targets such as admin staff who do not have agents fighting their corner

the present board still needs to walk the walk as all they have done so far plenty of talking
And you are a world leading authority of the financial status of BBs ,a simple rule if it costs you money and its worth nothing get rid exactly what they have done.
if winterstein was worth nothing he would not have found a new club so easily

truth is he went home to "recuperate" saw the farce at the bulls unravel in the most public of fashions & decided he wanted none of it

He tapped up his union contact & brought forward his move by a year (read the article it clearly states he was signed for a year as he intended to join a union club for 2015)

If the management of the club had any backbone then they would have said go by all means but there will be a price to release you from your contract

All the rest is just more BS if there are 4 or 5 waiting to fill his spot why on earth was he signed in the first place when FC knew he had a limited playing budget

Just further examples of bad decisions & bad management throughout the club
You know nothing about what is happening at BBs both with the finances or the personalities unless you know the facts I would advice you to keep quiet .
[quote][p][bold]mines a pint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mines a pint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mines a pint[/bold] wrote: so this is the second player contracted to the bulls who they have let go to another club without receiving any compensation I know the club needs to save money but offloading in contract quality players without receiving a bean in compensation does not fill me with much confidence in the financial management of the club[/p][/quote]are you having a laugh??? one less salary to pay! for a player who is a squad filler.[/p][/quote]Am I having a laugh????? clearly you have the same financial acumen as the idiots who agree to let contracted players leave without receiving a payment for their contract When the board announced savings had to be made they also said we would consider selling players NOT giving them away So far they have allowed Heath to return to Aus for "family reasons" without retaining his playing contract & what a surprise within a week he had signed for another club Squad player or not Winterstein was an asset of the club which had a value if the club did not put a value on him it begs the question why was he signed in the first place Either way any business in financial difficulty has a responsibility to realise the maximum value for any asset it releases There was a lot of talk by the board about running the club as a business making decisions based on financial reasoning not sentiment It now appears this only applies to the soft targets such as admin staff who do not have agents fighting their corner the present board still needs to walk the walk as all they have done so far plenty of talking[/p][/quote]And you are a world leading authority of the financial status of BBs ,a simple rule if it costs you money and its worth nothing get rid exactly what they have done.[/p][/quote]if winterstein was worth nothing he would not have found a new club so easily truth is he went home to "recuperate" saw the farce at the bulls unravel in the most public of fashions & decided he wanted none of it He tapped up his union contact & brought forward his move by a year (read the article it clearly states he was signed for a year as he intended to join a union club for 2015) If the management of the club had any backbone then they would have said go by all means but there will be a price to release you from your contract All the rest is just more BS if there are 4 or 5 waiting to fill his spot why on earth was he signed in the first place when FC knew he had a limited playing budget Just further examples of bad decisions & bad management throughout the club[/p][/quote]You know nothing about what is happening at BBs both with the finances or the personalities unless you know the facts I would advice you to keep quiet . collos25
  • Score: 0

4:20pm Mon 6 Jan 14

RABTID says...

Mines a pint, are you the mouth piece for OK or just another Troll who appears when anything Bulls is mentioned, in the negative. This is a great deal for the Bulls, they cut a player off quota, saving a salary. This now allows them to

A) buy another, which they won't do.

B) put this money towards keeping one who may have gone.

C) not make anymore staff redundant or cut working hours.

To all those who claim to be knowledgeable re the finances at Odsal, you like the rest of us, know beggar all, it's all supposition on your part. As other posters have said the major damage was done by previous owners. Give the current board chance to go forward and sort the problems out.

To those who post on here posting their unfounded comments just waiting for everything to go bottoms up( trolls ) I'm afraid you'll have a long wait. So, wander off, do something useful, like ask your council what they are doing re the Hole in Forster Square, the Odeon, those on low incomes who cannot afford a decent life style, the Homeless in Bradford. Oh, and when it's sorted will we see you at Odsal, what was that I heard, ahhh thought not, not a supporter. In your case lads a little knowledge is too much for you to handle.
Mines a pint, are you the mouth piece for OK or just another Troll who appears when anything Bulls is mentioned, in the negative. This is a great deal for the Bulls, they cut a player off quota, saving a salary. This now allows them to A) buy another, which they won't do. B) put this money towards keeping one who may have gone. C) not make anymore staff redundant or cut working hours. To all those who claim to be knowledgeable re the finances at Odsal, you like the rest of us, know beggar all, it's all supposition on your part. As other posters have said the major damage was done by previous owners. Give the current board chance to go forward and sort the problems out. To those who post on here posting their unfounded comments just waiting for everything to go bottoms up( trolls ) I'm afraid you'll have a long wait. So, wander off, do something useful, like ask your council what they are doing re the Hole in Forster Square, the Odeon, those on low incomes who cannot afford a decent life style, the Homeless in Bradford. Oh, and when it's sorted will we see you at Odsal, what was that I heard, ahhh thought not, not a supporter. In your case lads a little knowledge is too much for you to handle. RABTID
  • Score: 6

4:38pm Mon 6 Jan 14

grafter1980 says...

tinytoonster wrote:
grafter1980 wrote:
tinytoonster wrote:
grafter1980 wrote:
MeccaBingo1 wrote:
fedupwiththeBS wrote:
MeccaBingo1 wrote:
Only just the start!

Feel sorry for fans who bought season tickets, Lies Lies Lies.
unfortunately I feel you are right on this; the Club is now on its own as the RFL has cut its purse strings having been paying the wages since the end of last season.

We just do not have any money to pay these players so they are all going to jump at the first decent offer they get and who can blame them.

we are in a worse state than when we went into admin last time
I believe we are in a worse position, Like any other failing business we have had to sell assets, (our young) players and ground etc. rely on the good will of fans and beg the RFL on a number of occasions and make people redudant twice!

The three jokers currently running the show (Exlcuding Robbie Paul) have limited success in running small time businesses and do not understand the first thing about running a rugby club ,hence asking Ryan Duckett back.

Time will show I'm correct once again!!

Carvell and Gale/Sammut will not start season with Bulls
I agree with what you saying, but with regards to blaming the current Directors. they didn't sign player they couldn't afford, run up unmanageable debt and agree to a funding cut on the assumption they would get round it at a later date
no they just reneged on paying ok his money and are that stupid they CLAIMED they did not know about debts!
even when buying just a car our house you get a detailed background check!
and people think they are good businessmen?
i await the rose tinted replies and accusations about trolls etc....
So in your opinion Watt/Calvert/Moore have done more to damage Bulls chances of fielding a competitive team this season and next than OK/Sutcliffe and previous Directors?
i do not know all the facts so i cannot give an answer to that.
i am just saying you do not buy something without checking first and they promised to pay him.
we are stuck in limbo because no one knows who owns the club so no way to scrape away the mess and move on.
if they cannot afford to take the club forward why try buying it?
the fans could have taken over the club if it was free!!
i am sure there is some intelligent fans who could sort it out.
They haven't parted with any money, therefore they have been diligent I don't know full facts either but from what has been put in the paper RW appointed on the understanding Directors loan account would be repaid. RW not allowed to continue other Director find off balance sheet debt and says deals off, we'll only repay some of the loan account. All this has at one point or another been in the public domain.

It was the old Directors wanting to leave in haste that created this situation.

why did they all need to leave so quickly?
[quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]grafter1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]grafter1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MeccaBingo1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fedupwiththeBS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MeccaBingo1[/bold] wrote: Only just the start! Feel sorry for fans who bought season tickets, Lies Lies Lies.[/p][/quote]unfortunately I feel you are right on this; the Club is now on its own as the RFL has cut its purse strings having been paying the wages since the end of last season. We just do not have any money to pay these players so they are all going to jump at the first decent offer they get and who can blame them. we are in a worse state than when we went into admin last time[/p][/quote]I believe we are in a worse position, Like any other failing business we have had to sell assets, (our young) players and ground etc. rely on the good will of fans and beg the RFL on a number of occasions and make people redudant twice! The three jokers currently running the show (Exlcuding Robbie Paul) have limited success in running small time businesses and do not understand the first thing about running a rugby club ,hence asking Ryan Duckett back. Time will show I'm correct once again!! Carvell and Gale/Sammut will not start season with Bulls[/p][/quote]I agree with what you saying, but with regards to blaming the current Directors. they didn't sign player they couldn't afford, run up unmanageable debt and agree to a funding cut on the assumption they would get round it at a later date[/p][/quote]no they just reneged on paying ok his money and are that stupid they CLAIMED they did not know about debts! even when buying just a car our house you get a detailed background check! and people think they are good businessmen? i await the rose tinted replies and accusations about trolls etc....[/p][/quote]So in your opinion Watt/Calvert/Moore have done more to damage Bulls chances of fielding a competitive team this season and next than OK/Sutcliffe and previous Directors?[/p][/quote]i do not know all the facts so i cannot give an answer to that. i am just saying you do not buy something without checking first and they promised to pay him. we are stuck in limbo because no one knows who owns the club so no way to scrape away the mess and move on. if they cannot afford to take the club forward why try buying it? the fans could have taken over the club if it was free!! i am sure there is some intelligent fans who could sort it out.[/p][/quote]They haven't parted with any money, therefore they have been diligent I don't know full facts either but from what has been put in the paper RW appointed on the understanding Directors loan account would be repaid. RW not allowed to continue other Director find off balance sheet debt and says deals off, we'll only repay some of the loan account. All this has at one point or another been in the public domain. It was the old Directors wanting to leave in haste that created this situation. why did they all need to leave so quickly? grafter1980
  • Score: 5

6:04pm Mon 6 Jan 14

Wobblyhead says...

Sometimes, well, most times, I come on here, and it seems like half the people commenting are drunk.
Sometimes, well, most times, I come on here, and it seems like half the people commenting are drunk. Wobblyhead
  • Score: 1

6:28pm Mon 6 Jan 14

AUGUST1964 says...

Thought all the kids had gone back to school today!
Thought all the kids had gone back to school today! AUGUST1964
  • Score: 0

8:30pm Mon 6 Jan 14

Scrouge says...

06/01/14
APPOINTMENT TERMINATED, DIRECTOR MARK MOORE updated . See at CompaniesHouse website.??
Watt/Calvert still on. Any update.
06/01/14 APPOINTMENT TERMINATED, DIRECTOR MARK MOORE updated . See at CompaniesHouse website.?? Watt/Calvert still on. Any update. Scrouge
  • Score: 2

9:37pm Mon 6 Jan 14

Thee Voice of Reason says...

Scrouge wrote:
06/01/14
APPOINTMENT TERMINATED, DIRECTOR MARK MOORE updated . See at CompaniesHouse website.??
Watt/Calvert still on. Any update.
Doesn't appear to show that when I looked.
[quote][p][bold]Scrouge[/bold] wrote: 06/01/14 APPOINTMENT TERMINATED, DIRECTOR MARK MOORE updated . See at CompaniesHouse website.?? Watt/Calvert still on. Any update.[/p][/quote]Doesn't appear to show that when I looked. Thee Voice of Reason
  • Score: 3

9:46pm Mon 6 Jan 14

handoff says...

MeccaBingo1 wrote:
Only just the start!

Feel sorry for fans who bought season tickets, Lies Lies Lies.
Sad, sad, sad individual.
[quote][p][bold]MeccaBingo1[/bold] wrote: Only just the start! Feel sorry for fans who bought season tickets, Lies Lies Lies.[/p][/quote]Sad, sad, sad individual. handoff
  • Score: -3

8:38am Tue 7 Jan 14

Lapdancer says...

After yesterday's crisis talks a quick check on company house shows mr Moore resigned yesterday! In our, in out, shake it all about!
I bet us fans are the last to know as per usual.
After yesterday's crisis talks a quick check on company house shows mr Moore resigned yesterday! In our, in out, shake it all about! I bet us fans are the last to know as per usual. Lapdancer
  • Score: 2

9:17am Tue 7 Jan 14

RABTID says...

Scrouge, is your name, purporting to be the main character in Dickens A Christmas Carol, if so you've spelt it wrong. But I believe you and Lapdancer, are one and the same. A lost soull, looking to upset one and all, with misinformation. Sad really.

LikeTVOR, I too couldn't find anything on the Companies House site. So , nice try. But you don't get a cuppi doll. You are female? Aren't you?
Scrouge, is your name, purporting to be the main character in Dickens A Christmas Carol, if so you've spelt it wrong. But I believe you and Lapdancer, are one and the same. A lost soull, looking to upset one and all, with misinformation. Sad really. LikeTVOR, I too couldn't find anything on the Companies House site. So , nice try. But you don't get a cuppi doll. You are female? Aren't you? RABTID
  • Score: 0

10:22am Tue 7 Jan 14

StevieLad says...

RABTID wrote:
Scrouge, is your name, purporting to be the main character in Dickens A Christmas Carol, if so you've spelt it wrong. But I believe you and Lapdancer, are one and the same. A lost soull, looking to upset one and all, with misinformation. Sad really.

LikeTVOR, I too couldn't find anything on the Companies House site. So , nice try. But you don't get a cuppi doll. You are female? Aren't you?
+1 to that. Nothing on Companies House. Failtroll
[quote][p][bold]RABTID[/bold] wrote: Scrouge, is your name, purporting to be the main character in Dickens A Christmas Carol, if so you've spelt it wrong. But I believe you and Lapdancer, are one and the same. A lost soull, looking to upset one and all, with misinformation. Sad really. LikeTVOR, I too couldn't find anything on the Companies House site. So , nice try. But you don't get a cuppi doll. You are female? Aren't you?[/p][/quote]+1 to that. Nothing on Companies House. Failtroll StevieLad
  • Score: 1

1:49pm Tue 7 Jan 14

bradfordbronco says...

MeccaBingo1 wrote:
Only just the start!

Feel sorry for fans who bought season tickets, Lies Lies Lies.
Please dont feel sorry for people who like me who bought a season ticket. The 4000 or so who did are probably like me, loyal supporters who love watching the Bulls play Rugby League. We would have turned up every week anyway even if we played the juniors. We didn't but a season ticket because we expected us to win every game. We bought a season ticket because we always do and it gives the club some revenue at a vital time and means we can watch games for £13.85 rather than £20 per game.

In addition to this i'll probably attend 8 or more away games. Stop feeling sorry for us, we actually enjoy watching the Bulls, even if we lose. Its all part of following a team year in year out.
[quote][p][bold]MeccaBingo1[/bold] wrote: Only just the start! Feel sorry for fans who bought season tickets, Lies Lies Lies.[/p][/quote]Please dont feel sorry for people who like me who bought a season ticket. The 4000 or so who did are probably like me, loyal supporters who love watching the Bulls play Rugby League. We would have turned up every week anyway even if we played the juniors. We didn't but a season ticket because we expected us to win every game. We bought a season ticket because we always do and it gives the club some revenue at a vital time and means we can watch games for £13.85 rather than £20 per game. In addition to this i'll probably attend 8 or more away games. Stop feeling sorry for us, we actually enjoy watching the Bulls, even if we lose. Its all part of following a team year in year out. bradfordbronco
  • Score: 8

1:59pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Parz says...

bradfordbronco wrote:
MeccaBingo1 wrote: Only just the start! Feel sorry for fans who bought season tickets, Lies Lies Lies.
Please dont feel sorry for people who like me who bought a season ticket. The 4000 or so who did are probably like me, loyal supporters who love watching the Bulls play Rugby League. We would have turned up every week anyway even if we played the juniors. We didn't but a season ticket because we expected us to win every game. We bought a season ticket because we always do and it gives the club some revenue at a vital time and means we can watch games for £13.85 rather than £20 per game. In addition to this i'll probably attend 8 or more away games. Stop feeling sorry for us, we actually enjoy watching the Bulls, even if we lose. Its all part of following a team year in year out.
Hear Hear!
[quote][p][bold]bradfordbronco[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MeccaBingo1[/bold] wrote: Only just the start! Feel sorry for fans who bought season tickets, Lies Lies Lies.[/p][/quote]Please dont feel sorry for people who like me who bought a season ticket. The 4000 or so who did are probably like me, loyal supporters who love watching the Bulls play Rugby League. We would have turned up every week anyway even if we played the juniors. We didn't but a season ticket because we expected us to win every game. We bought a season ticket because we always do and it gives the club some revenue at a vital time and means we can watch games for £13.85 rather than £20 per game. In addition to this i'll probably attend 8 or more away games. Stop feeling sorry for us, we actually enjoy watching the Bulls, even if we lose. Its all part of following a team year in year out.[/p][/quote]Hear Hear! Parz
  • Score: 6

4:04pm Tue 7 Jan 14

Sheffieldbull says...

bradfordbronco wrote:
MeccaBingo1 wrote:
Only just the start!

Feel sorry for fans who bought season tickets, Lies Lies Lies.
Please dont feel sorry for people who like me who bought a season ticket. The 4000 or so who did are probably like me, loyal supporters who love watching the Bulls play Rugby League. We would have turned up every week anyway even if we played the juniors. We didn't but a season ticket because we expected us to win every game. We bought a season ticket because we always do and it gives the club some revenue at a vital time and means we can watch games for £13.85 rather than £20 per game.

In addition to this i'll probably attend 8 or more away games. Stop feeling sorry for us, we actually enjoy watching the Bulls, even if we lose. Its all part of following a team year in year out.
Very well said, my sentiments exactly, bradfordbronco!
[quote][p][bold]bradfordbronco[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MeccaBingo1[/bold] wrote: Only just the start! Feel sorry for fans who bought season tickets, Lies Lies Lies.[/p][/quote]Please dont feel sorry for people who like me who bought a season ticket. The 4000 or so who did are probably like me, loyal supporters who love watching the Bulls play Rugby League. We would have turned up every week anyway even if we played the juniors. We didn't but a season ticket because we expected us to win every game. We bought a season ticket because we always do and it gives the club some revenue at a vital time and means we can watch games for £13.85 rather than £20 per game. In addition to this i'll probably attend 8 or more away games. Stop feeling sorry for us, we actually enjoy watching the Bulls, even if we lose. Its all part of following a team year in year out.[/p][/quote]Very well said, my sentiments exactly, bradfordbronco! Sheffieldbull
  • Score: 6

5:47am Wed 8 Jan 14

StevieLad says...

StevieLad wrote:
RABTID wrote:
Scrouge, is your name, purporting to be the main character in Dickens A Christmas Carol, if so you've spelt it wrong. But I believe you and Lapdancer, are one and the same. A lost soull, looking to upset one and all, with misinformation. Sad really.

LikeTVOR, I too couldn't find anything on the Companies House site. So , nice try. But you don't get a cuppi doll. You are female? Aren't you?
+1 to that. Nothing on Companies House. Failtroll
Apologies from doubting Thomas here
[quote][p][bold]StevieLad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RABTID[/bold] wrote: Scrouge, is your name, purporting to be the main character in Dickens A Christmas Carol, if so you've spelt it wrong. But I believe you and Lapdancer, are one and the same. A lost soull, looking to upset one and all, with misinformation. Sad really. LikeTVOR, I too couldn't find anything on the Companies House site. So , nice try. But you don't get a cuppi doll. You are female? Aren't you?[/p][/quote]+1 to that. Nothing on Companies House. Failtroll[/p][/quote]Apologies from doubting Thomas here StevieLad
  • Score: 1

7:17am Wed 8 Jan 14

Scrouge says...

RABTID wrote:
Scrouge, is your name, purporting to be the main character in Dickens A Christmas Carol, if so you've spelt it wrong. But I believe you and Lapdancer, are one and the same. A lost soull, looking to upset one and all, with misinformation. Sad really.

LikeTVOR, I too couldn't find anything on the Companies House site. So , nice try. But you don't get a cuppi doll. You are female? Aren't you?
Cain I have an apology please.???????. I suggest you go to the Opticians.
[quote][p][bold]RABTID[/bold] wrote: Scrouge, is your name, purporting to be the main character in Dickens A Christmas Carol, if so you've spelt it wrong. But I believe you and Lapdancer, are one and the same. A lost soull, looking to upset one and all, with misinformation. Sad really. LikeTVOR, I too couldn't find anything on the Companies House site. So , nice try. But you don't get a cuppi doll. You are female? Aren't you?[/p][/quote]Cain I have an apology please.???????. I suggest you go to the Opticians. Scrouge
  • Score: 1

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