Bradford City can expect no gifts this Christmas, as they prepare for tough test of play-off credentials

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: DEJA VU: Rory McArdle heads wide during last month’s FA Cup defeat to Rotherham – City’s fifth loss in a row to their derby foes, who they host on Boxing Day DEJA VU: Rory McArdle heads wide during last month’s FA Cup defeat to Rotherham – City’s fifth loss in a row to their derby foes, who they host on Boxing Day

City are locked in an eight-team battle for the last two play-off spots, according to Mark Lawn.

After the free weekend, Phil Parkinson’s troops today begin the build-up towards Saturday’s home clash with leaders Leyton Orient – the start of a tough four-game run against sides above them.

Peterborough, Rotherham and Swindon all follow to challenge City’s credentials as a potential top-six contender.

Lawn admitted: “It will show where we are in this league. I think we play probably the best two teams in the next two games – Leyton Orient and Peterborough.

“Then we’ve got to decide how we’re going to beat Rotherham. Whether they are better than us or not, they certainly have a way of beating us.

“But I believe we’ve proved we’re seriously top half of this table (material) and this is a good test.”

City have slipped just below the play-off zone and trail the sixth-placed Millers by a point.

Even at this early stage, joint-chairman Lawn reckons the first four spots are already sewn up because of the hot pace being set at the top, with the chasing pack looking at fifth at best.

He said: “There are two places (up for grabs) and I think there are eight teams looking at them.

“It’s important that we stay in touch, don’t get over-excited when we win or too disheartened when we lose.

“As Alex Ferguson always used to say, if you’re there or thereabouts in March and can put a run together, you’ll get to where you want to be.

“That’s what we’ve got to aim for. That’s what happened last year and we did it very well.

“It might be down to (fitness coach) Nick Allamby as well when other people start to wilt.

“If we can kick on from March again, we might get in the play-offs.”

City have won only once in the last nine games since their impressive start to League One. Lawn believes opponents are wising up to their strengths.

“I think we’re just having a bit of a blip where we need to turn up the gas a little more. Perhaps we have to look at different ways of doing things.

“When you come into a new league, people take time before they can suss out the way you play and what you’re doing. I just think we’re at that stage where we might just have to throw it round a little bit.

“That’s why we’ve got a lot of draws. We’re difficult to beat anyway but they might have sussed us out and we need to work on other things.

“I think we needed this break. Fiscally it’s not helped but for the lads to get a weekend off will have done them a world of good.”

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9:04am Mon 9 Dec 13

tinytoonster says...

“If we can kick on from March again, we might get in the play-offs.”
not if you sell our best players!
why does he have to come out to play when we are in a bad patch?
last thing we need is him speaking!!
“If we can kick on from March again, we might get in the play-offs.” not if you sell our best players! why does he have to come out to play when we are in a bad patch? last thing we need is him speaking!! tinytoonster

9:09am Mon 9 Dec 13

tyker7745 says...

Lawn speaks rubbish most of the time: he has been quiet for the last 6 or 8 months. Please let us revert to his silence
Lawn speaks rubbish most of the time: he has been quiet for the last 6 or 8 months. Please let us revert to his silence tyker7745

9:29am Mon 9 Dec 13

Papa Smurfs Wig says...

Nobody has been sold yet and it's pure speculation that Wells is going but we do think more than likely unless one huge mind game has been played.

I looked at the fixtures for this month in September thinking, oh my, that is one hell of a hard few weeks to sort out.

I still think we are weak with Reid, he plays about but it seems about one in ten a cross gets over. We have a great foil with big James who could score more given the service and I honestly think Thompson is a bit off the pace and can't do it at all.
Nobody has been sold yet and it's pure speculation that Wells is going but we do think more than likely unless one huge mind game has been played. I looked at the fixtures for this month in September thinking, oh my, that is one hell of a hard few weeks to sort out. I still think we are weak with Reid, he plays about but it seems about one in ten a cross gets over. We have a great foil with big James who could score more given the service and I honestly think Thompson is a bit off the pace and can't do it at all. Papa Smurfs Wig

9:32am Mon 9 Dec 13

dannbradfc says...

tyker7745 wrote:
Lawn speaks rubbish most of the time: he has been quiet for the last 6 or 8 months. Please let us revert to his silence
However on this occasion he as repeated what i've said regarding been "sussed out". We need a right winger Mr Lawn and a central midfielder who can attack and change the game if we need to....please.

However the system will have to change anyway if we don't get an adequate replacement for nahki if/when he goes......
[quote][p][bold]tyker7745[/bold] wrote: Lawn speaks rubbish most of the time: he has been quiet for the last 6 or 8 months. Please let us revert to his silence[/p][/quote]However on this occasion he as repeated what i've said regarding been "sussed out". We need a right winger Mr Lawn and a central midfielder who can attack and change the game if we need to....please. However the system will have to change anyway if we don't get an adequate replacement for nahki if/when he goes...... dannbradfc

9:48am Mon 9 Dec 13

Freddy says...

tinytoonster wrote:
“If we can kick on from March again, we might get in the play-offs.”
not if you sell our best players!
why does he have to come out to play when we are in a bad patch?
last thing we need is him speaking!!
*
I Agree. (There are wrong disagreements on your comment.)
*
Lawn needs to zip it up!. Concentrate on inviting players, like Wells, to talk about extending contracts. NOT WAITING FOR PLAYERS TO SPEAK TO HIM--like some unapproachable god!!!!.
*
[quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: “If we can kick on from March again, we might get in the play-offs.” not if you sell our best players! why does he have to come out to play when we are in a bad patch? last thing we need is him speaking!![/p][/quote]* I Agree. (There are wrong disagreements on your comment.) * Lawn needs to zip it up!. Concentrate on inviting players, like Wells, to talk about extending contracts. NOT WAITING FOR PLAYERS TO SPEAK TO HIM--like some unapproachable god!!!!. * Freddy

10:15am Mon 9 Dec 13

GlassIsHalfFull says...

Lawn and Rhodes have asked nahki to discuss a new contract to which he has replied he wants to concentrate on his football which is fair enough. You can't force a player to do anything he doesn't want to. As for mark lawn he may not be everyone's cup of tea but I'm pretty certain if it wernt for him and the Rhodes family we wouldn't be where we are now. Just enjoy the fact we are challenging at the right end of the table and stop finding something to moan about at every opportunity.
Lawn and Rhodes have asked nahki to discuss a new contract to which he has replied he wants to concentrate on his football which is fair enough. You can't force a player to do anything he doesn't want to. As for mark lawn he may not be everyone's cup of tea but I'm pretty certain if it wernt for him and the Rhodes family we wouldn't be where we are now. Just enjoy the fact we are challenging at the right end of the table and stop finding something to moan about at every opportunity. GlassIsHalfFull

10:18am Mon 9 Dec 13

realcitygent says...

Papa Smurfs Wig wrote:
Nobody has been sold yet and it's pure speculation that Wells is going but we do think more than likely unless one huge mind game has been played.

I looked at the fixtures for this month in September thinking, oh my, that is one hell of a hard few weeks to sort out.

I still think we are weak with Reid, he plays about but it seems about one in ten a cross gets over. We have a great foil with big James who could score more given the service and I honestly think Thompson is a bit off the pace and can't do it at all.
im glad to see there are other fans like myself who think reid is just not good enough ,cant see what parky see in him hecant cross the ball off the ground ,tends to spend lot time on his backside ,his game consists off trying to get free kicks ,or playing ball off defender for throwings , the man does not have the confidnce to take a player on one on one, amazes me why city fans like him only scores odd goal and very rarely has a good game ,maybe they living on his good goal couple month ago, i see reid nearly every game as i travel to nearly all away games, im my opionion yeates is by far better player
[quote][p][bold]Papa Smurfs Wig[/bold] wrote: Nobody has been sold yet and it's pure speculation that Wells is going but we do think more than likely unless one huge mind game has been played. I looked at the fixtures for this month in September thinking, oh my, that is one hell of a hard few weeks to sort out. I still think we are weak with Reid, he plays about but it seems about one in ten a cross gets over. We have a great foil with big James who could score more given the service and I honestly think Thompson is a bit off the pace and can't do it at all.[/p][/quote]im glad to see there are other fans like myself who think reid is just not good enough ,cant see what parky see in him hecant cross the ball off the ground ,tends to spend lot time on his backside ,his game consists off trying to get free kicks ,or playing ball off defender for throwings , the man does not have the confidnce to take a player on one on one, amazes me why city fans like him only scores odd goal and very rarely has a good game ,maybe they living on his good goal couple month ago, i see reid nearly every game as i travel to nearly all away games, im my opionion yeates is by far better player realcitygent

10:23am Mon 9 Dec 13

Peter300 says...

realcitygent wrote:
Papa Smurfs Wig wrote:
Nobody has been sold yet and it's pure speculation that Wells is going but we do think more than likely unless one huge mind game has been played.

I looked at the fixtures for this month in September thinking, oh my, that is one hell of a hard few weeks to sort out.

I still think we are weak with Reid, he plays about but it seems about one in ten a cross gets over. We have a great foil with big James who could score more given the service and I honestly think Thompson is a bit off the pace and can't do it at all.
im glad to see there are other fans like myself who think reid is just not good enough ,cant see what parky see in him hecant cross the ball off the ground ,tends to spend lot time on his backside ,his game consists off trying to get free kicks ,or playing ball off defender for throwings , the man does not have the confidnce to take a player on one on one, amazes me why city fans like him only scores odd goal and very rarely has a good game ,maybe they living on his good goal couple month ago, i see reid nearly every game as i travel to nearly all away games, im my opionion yeates is by far better player
I think Reidy is a very good winger for this level. People like you will never be happy with wingers because you expect too much every game. It's not going to happen.
[quote][p][bold]realcitygent[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Papa Smurfs Wig[/bold] wrote: Nobody has been sold yet and it's pure speculation that Wells is going but we do think more than likely unless one huge mind game has been played. I looked at the fixtures for this month in September thinking, oh my, that is one hell of a hard few weeks to sort out. I still think we are weak with Reid, he plays about but it seems about one in ten a cross gets over. We have a great foil with big James who could score more given the service and I honestly think Thompson is a bit off the pace and can't do it at all.[/p][/quote]im glad to see there are other fans like myself who think reid is just not good enough ,cant see what parky see in him hecant cross the ball off the ground ,tends to spend lot time on his backside ,his game consists off trying to get free kicks ,or playing ball off defender for throwings , the man does not have the confidnce to take a player on one on one, amazes me why city fans like him only scores odd goal and very rarely has a good game ,maybe they living on his good goal couple month ago, i see reid nearly every game as i travel to nearly all away games, im my opionion yeates is by far better player[/p][/quote]I think Reidy is a very good winger for this level. People like you will never be happy with wingers because you expect too much every game. It's not going to happen. Peter300

10:28am Mon 9 Dec 13

Peter300 says...

tyker7745 wrote:
Lawn speaks rubbish most of the time: he has been quiet for the last 6 or 8 months. Please let us revert to his silence
I hope Mr. Lawn is not going to start sticking his nose in and trying to give advice to Phil. Mr. Lawn has tried this before. It doesn't work. Let the manager continue with managing without interference. Essentially, the directors are amateurs when it comes to football. They have an opinion, but thats it. They can give their thoughts to the manager, but he has to decide on team matters.
[quote][p][bold]tyker7745[/bold] wrote: Lawn speaks rubbish most of the time: he has been quiet for the last 6 or 8 months. Please let us revert to his silence[/p][/quote]I hope Mr. Lawn is not going to start sticking his nose in and trying to give advice to Phil. Mr. Lawn has tried this before. It doesn't work. Let the manager continue with managing without interference. Essentially, the directors are amateurs when it comes to football. They have an opinion, but thats it. They can give their thoughts to the manager, but he has to decide on team matters. Peter300

10:31am Mon 9 Dec 13

Peter300 says...

tinytoonster wrote:
“If we can kick on from March again, we might get in the play-offs.”
not if you sell our best players!
why does he have to come out to play when we are in a bad patch?
last thing we need is him speaking!!
Its 'chairmans week'. The joint chairmen give their periodical announcement on City matters. How they see things etc. I suppose they feel they must undertake this duty.
[quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: “If we can kick on from March again, we might get in the play-offs.” not if you sell our best players! why does he have to come out to play when we are in a bad patch? last thing we need is him speaking!![/p][/quote]Its 'chairmans week'. The joint chairmen give their periodical announcement on City matters. How they see things etc. I suppose they feel they must undertake this duty. Peter300

11:04am Mon 9 Dec 13

johnny yen says...

Mark Lawn is first and foremost a supporter of Bradford City, and as such is perfectly entitled to his opinion on team affairs. I agree with much of what he has to say.
Mark Lawn is first and foremost a supporter of Bradford City, and as such is perfectly entitled to his opinion on team affairs. I agree with much of what he has to say. johnny yen

11:44am Mon 9 Dec 13

Nickloza says...

johnny yen wrote:
Mark Lawn is first and foremost a supporter of Bradford City, and as such is perfectly entitled to his opinion on team affairs. I agree with much of what he has to say.
I couldn't agree more Johnny. Some on here think theirs is the only opinion that matters
[quote][p][bold]johnny yen[/bold] wrote: Mark Lawn is first and foremost a supporter of Bradford City, and as such is perfectly entitled to his opinion on team affairs. I agree with much of what he has to say.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more Johnny. Some on here think theirs is the only opinion that matters Nickloza

12:05pm Mon 9 Dec 13

moanmoanwhingewhinge says...

tinytoonster wrote:
“If we can kick on from March again, we might get in the play-offs.”
not if you sell our best players!
why does he have to come out to play when we are in a bad patch?
last thing we need is him speaking!!
No, the last thing we need is YOU speaking - or should I say WHINING. Again. Mark Lawn put a substantial amount of money into our club and appointed the manager who has taken us from struggling to stay in the league two seasons on the trot, to two Wembley appearences in one year, to challenging near the top of division one. As such he is entitled to comment on the club he has a major role in running. Although I may not always agree with what he says I'd rather listen to him and Julian Rhodes then people who look for any reason whatsoever to run the club down (i.e. saying last week that we're 'once a div 2 club, always a div 2 club' - ring any bells?). Exactly where has it been said that the chairmen actually WANT to sell Wells? Or even that he is definitely leaving? Perhaps he has been approached to sign a contract but hasn't done so (as yet)? How about waiting to see if Wells actually leaves and how we actually do in the league before shreiking about how terrible everything is?
[quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: “If we can kick on from March again, we might get in the play-offs.” not if you sell our best players! why does he have to come out to play when we are in a bad patch? last thing we need is him speaking!![/p][/quote]No, the last thing we need is YOU speaking - or should I say WHINING. Again. Mark Lawn put a substantial amount of money into our club and appointed the manager who has taken us from struggling to stay in the league two seasons on the trot, to two Wembley appearences in one year, to challenging near the top of division one. As such he is entitled to comment on the club he has a major role in running. Although I may not always agree with what he says I'd rather listen to him and Julian Rhodes then people who look for any reason whatsoever to run the club down (i.e. saying last week that we're 'once a div 2 club, always a div 2 club' - ring any bells?). Exactly where has it been said that the chairmen actually WANT to sell Wells? Or even that he is definitely leaving? Perhaps he has been approached to sign a contract but hasn't done so (as yet)? How about waiting to see if Wells actually leaves and how we actually do in the league before shreiking about how terrible everything is? moanmoanwhingewhinge

12:54pm Mon 9 Dec 13

PHILISAN says...

..But with the love of the club at heart why oh why did he not stage the repayment of his loan to cover any non anticipated shortfalls in revenue streams...And then...
“I think we needed this break. FISCALLY it’s not helped but for the lads to get a weekend off will have done them a world of good.”
...And again... the fall out from the Mark Stewart affair,which apparently as been accounted for ..but which will obviously have an adverse effect on player budgets.This following the mixed signals regarding losses due to early cup exits.Obviously in spite of increased attendances,we still have to be cautious,but we need to have some sort of safety net regarding our cash-flow.Player's bonuses and wages have risen with our promotion and maybe we will have to sell and unload a few to better the squad.but it should be budgeted for in the business plan for the season.
..But with the love of the club at heart why oh why did he not stage the repayment of his loan to cover any non anticipated shortfalls in revenue streams...And then... “I think we needed this break. FISCALLY it’s not helped but for the lads to get a weekend off will have done them a world of good.” ...And again... the fall out from the Mark Stewart affair,which apparently as been accounted for ..but which will obviously have an adverse effect on player budgets.This following the mixed signals regarding losses due to early cup exits.Obviously in spite of increased attendances,we still have to be cautious,but we need to have some sort of safety net regarding our cash-flow.Player's bonuses and wages have risen with our promotion and maybe we will have to sell and unload a few to better the squad.but it should be budgeted for in the business plan for the season. PHILISAN

12:57pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

realcitygent wrote:
Papa Smurfs Wig wrote:
Nobody has been sold yet and it's pure speculation that Wells is going but we do think more than likely unless one huge mind game has been played.

I looked at the fixtures for this month in September thinking, oh my, that is one hell of a hard few weeks to sort out.

I still think we are weak with Reid, he plays about but it seems about one in ten a cross gets over. We have a great foil with big James who could score more given the service and I honestly think Thompson is a bit off the pace and can't do it at all.
im glad to see there are other fans like myself who think reid is just not good enough ,cant see what parky see in him hecant cross the ball off the ground ,tends to spend lot time on his backside ,his game consists off trying to get free kicks ,or playing ball off defender for throwings , the man does not have the confidnce to take a player on one on one, amazes me why city fans like him only scores odd goal and very rarely has a good game ,maybe they living on his good goal couple month ago, i see reid nearly every game as i travel to nearly all away games, im my opionion yeates is by far better player
That would be the same free kicks he played for that drove us to the CoC final and play-offs last year, utilising our major strengths?

The same player who is doubled and sometimes trebled up, yet still manages to keep possession in the opponents half, thereby holding the pressure of our own defence?

Reid has goals and assists to his name this season and has been having his best run of games for us. If he was more consistent, with his pace and trickery he wouldn't be playing L1.

Some right nuggets are allowed near keyboards
[quote][p][bold]realcitygent[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Papa Smurfs Wig[/bold] wrote: Nobody has been sold yet and it's pure speculation that Wells is going but we do think more than likely unless one huge mind game has been played. I looked at the fixtures for this month in September thinking, oh my, that is one hell of a hard few weeks to sort out. I still think we are weak with Reid, he plays about but it seems about one in ten a cross gets over. We have a great foil with big James who could score more given the service and I honestly think Thompson is a bit off the pace and can't do it at all.[/p][/quote]im glad to see there are other fans like myself who think reid is just not good enough ,cant see what parky see in him hecant cross the ball off the ground ,tends to spend lot time on his backside ,his game consists off trying to get free kicks ,or playing ball off defender for throwings , the man does not have the confidnce to take a player on one on one, amazes me why city fans like him only scores odd goal and very rarely has a good game ,maybe they living on his good goal couple month ago, i see reid nearly every game as i travel to nearly all away games, im my opionion yeates is by far better player[/p][/quote]That would be the same free kicks he played for that drove us to the CoC final and play-offs last year, utilising our major strengths? The same player who is doubled and sometimes trebled up, yet still manages to keep possession in the opponents half, thereby holding the pressure of our own defence? Reid has goals and assists to his name this season and has been having his best run of games for us. If he was more consistent, with his pace and trickery he wouldn't be playing L1. Some right nuggets are allowed near keyboards Prisoner Cell Block A

1:14pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Victor Clayton says...

I just do not think we are good enough to get in the play offs.
I just do not think we are good enough to get in the play offs. Victor Clayton

1:15pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Michael Clayton says...

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
realcitygent wrote:
Papa Smurfs Wig wrote: Nobody has been sold yet and it's pure speculation that Wells is going but we do think more than likely unless one huge mind game has been played. I looked at the fixtures for this month in September thinking, oh my, that is one hell of a hard few weeks to sort out. I still think we are weak with Reid, he plays about but it seems about one in ten a cross gets over. We have a great foil with big James who could score more given the service and I honestly think Thompson is a bit off the pace and can't do it at all.
im glad to see there are other fans like myself who think reid is just not good enough ,cant see what parky see in him hecant cross the ball off the ground ,tends to spend lot time on his backside ,his game consists off trying to get free kicks ,or playing ball off defender for throwings , the man does not have the confidnce to take a player on one on one, amazes me why city fans like him only scores odd goal and very rarely has a good game ,maybe they living on his good goal couple month ago, i see reid nearly every game as i travel to nearly all away games, im my opionion yeates is by far better player
That would be the same free kicks he played for that drove us to the CoC final and play-offs last year, utilising our major strengths? The same player who is doubled and sometimes trebled up, yet still manages to keep possession in the opponents half, thereby holding the pressure of our own defence? Reid has goals and assists to his name this season and has been having his best run of games for us. If he was more consistent, with his pace and trickery he wouldn't be playing L1. Some right nuggets are allowed near keyboards
"Throwings" ! Ha-ha.
[quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realcitygent[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Papa Smurfs Wig[/bold] wrote: Nobody has been sold yet and it's pure speculation that Wells is going but we do think more than likely unless one huge mind game has been played. I looked at the fixtures for this month in September thinking, oh my, that is one hell of a hard few weeks to sort out. I still think we are weak with Reid, he plays about but it seems about one in ten a cross gets over. We have a great foil with big James who could score more given the service and I honestly think Thompson is a bit off the pace and can't do it at all.[/p][/quote]im glad to see there are other fans like myself who think reid is just not good enough ,cant see what parky see in him hecant cross the ball off the ground ,tends to spend lot time on his backside ,his game consists off trying to get free kicks ,or playing ball off defender for throwings , the man does not have the confidnce to take a player on one on one, amazes me why city fans like him only scores odd goal and very rarely has a good game ,maybe they living on his good goal couple month ago, i see reid nearly every game as i travel to nearly all away games, im my opionion yeates is by far better player[/p][/quote]That would be the same free kicks he played for that drove us to the CoC final and play-offs last year, utilising our major strengths? The same player who is doubled and sometimes trebled up, yet still manages to keep possession in the opponents half, thereby holding the pressure of our own defence? Reid has goals and assists to his name this season and has been having his best run of games for us. If he was more consistent, with his pace and trickery he wouldn't be playing L1. Some right nuggets are allowed near keyboards[/p][/quote]"Throwings" ! Ha-ha. Michael Clayton

1:18pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Michael Clayton says...

Michael Clayton wrote:
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
realcitygent wrote:
Papa Smurfs Wig wrote: Nobody has been sold yet and it's pure speculation that Wells is going but we do think more than likely unless one huge mind game has been played. I looked at the fixtures for this month in September thinking, oh my, that is one hell of a hard few weeks to sort out. I still think we are weak with Reid, he plays about but it seems about one in ten a cross gets over. We have a great foil with big James who could score more given the service and I honestly think Thompson is a bit off the pace and can't do it at all.
im glad to see there are other fans like myself who think reid is just not good enough ,cant see what parky see in him hecant cross the ball off the ground ,tends to spend lot time on his backside ,his game consists off trying to get free kicks ,or playing ball off defender for throwings , the man does not have the confidnce to take a player on one on one, amazes me why city fans like him only scores odd goal and very rarely has a good game ,maybe they living on his good goal couple month ago, i see reid nearly every game as i travel to nearly all away games, im my opionion yeates is by far better player
That would be the same free kicks he played for that drove us to the CoC final and play-offs last year, utilising our major strengths? The same player who is doubled and sometimes trebled up, yet still manages to keep possession in the opponents half, thereby holding the pressure of our own defence? Reid has goals and assists to his name this season and has been having his best run of games for us. If he was more consistent, with his pace and trickery he wouldn't be playing L1. Some right nuggets are allowed near keyboards
"Throwings" ! Ha-ha.
" i see reid nearly every game as i travel to nearly all away games". Take my advice and save yourself some money, You clearly do not appreciate what is going on.
[quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realcitygent[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Papa Smurfs Wig[/bold] wrote: Nobody has been sold yet and it's pure speculation that Wells is going but we do think more than likely unless one huge mind game has been played. I looked at the fixtures for this month in September thinking, oh my, that is one hell of a hard few weeks to sort out. I still think we are weak with Reid, he plays about but it seems about one in ten a cross gets over. We have a great foil with big James who could score more given the service and I honestly think Thompson is a bit off the pace and can't do it at all.[/p][/quote]im glad to see there are other fans like myself who think reid is just not good enough ,cant see what parky see in him hecant cross the ball off the ground ,tends to spend lot time on his backside ,his game consists off trying to get free kicks ,or playing ball off defender for throwings , the man does not have the confidnce to take a player on one on one, amazes me why city fans like him only scores odd goal and very rarely has a good game ,maybe they living on his good goal couple month ago, i see reid nearly every game as i travel to nearly all away games, im my opionion yeates is by far better player[/p][/quote]That would be the same free kicks he played for that drove us to the CoC final and play-offs last year, utilising our major strengths? The same player who is doubled and sometimes trebled up, yet still manages to keep possession in the opponents half, thereby holding the pressure of our own defence? Reid has goals and assists to his name this season and has been having his best run of games for us. If he was more consistent, with his pace and trickery he wouldn't be playing L1. Some right nuggets are allowed near keyboards[/p][/quote]"Throwings" ! Ha-ha.[/p][/quote]" i see reid nearly every game as i travel to nearly all away games". Take my advice and save yourself some money, You clearly do not appreciate what is going on. Michael Clayton

1:36pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Cityman23 says...

Re: the wells speculation, I think we just need to enjoy 'NW' for as long as we have him, whether that be one month, six months or more. Nahki is already a 'legend' amongst the modern era City players and I will bear no grudges against him or anyone else if/when he goes. To do so, would be to besmirch his time at the club which I think does nobody any favours.

Those Everton 'supporters' who shouted abuse at Davie Moyes, because he left for the one team in England most mgs wouldn't turn down, I think displayed short-sightedness and lack of thought for their own team's history. Whatever Moyes does/doesn't achieve at United he DID achieve a lot at the Toffees and should have been given respect for that.

Similarly, 'NW' has nothing to prove at City and I will always think well of him (or should that be 'WELLS') whatever he does. He has the 'makings' of a top grade player but is still a 'diamond in the rough' and his next move, be it 'moving' to sign on for a further period at City or actually moving elsewhere is HIS decision as it would be ours if we were in his shoes.

Re: Mark Lawn, I am not one to say a lot in praise of club chairmen or directors because I would prefer to see football clubs owned by their own fans (as more are beoming these days) but it would be churlish and unfair not acknowledge that he and Julian Rhodes have had a hand in City's success over the last couple of years. Re: his comments about City being in a battle with seven/eight other teams for a play-off spot-isn't that just 'stating the obvious' and to be honest he was probably asked by Simon Parker for a comment (to fill a backpage column) and that's what he said!!!!
Re: the wells speculation, I think we just need to enjoy 'NW' for as long as we have him, whether that be one month, six months or more. Nahki is already a 'legend' amongst the modern era City players and I will bear no grudges against him or anyone else if/when he goes. To do so, would be to besmirch his time at the club which I think does nobody any favours. Those Everton 'supporters' who shouted abuse at Davie Moyes, because he left for the one team in England most mgs wouldn't turn down, I think displayed short-sightedness and lack of thought for their own team's history. Whatever Moyes does/doesn't achieve at United he DID achieve a lot at the Toffees and should have been given respect for that. Similarly, 'NW' has nothing to prove at City and I will always think well of him (or should that be 'WELLS') whatever he does. He has the 'makings' of a top grade player but is still a 'diamond in the rough' and his next move, be it 'moving' to sign on for a further period at City or actually moving elsewhere is HIS decision as it would be ours if we were in his shoes. Re: Mark Lawn, I am not one to say a lot in praise of club chairmen or directors because I would prefer to see football clubs owned by their own fans (as more are beoming these days) but it would be churlish and unfair not acknowledge that he and Julian Rhodes have had a hand in City's success over the last couple of years. Re: his comments about City being in a battle with seven/eight other teams for a play-off spot-isn't that just 'stating the obvious' and to be honest he was probably asked by Simon Parker for a comment (to fill a backpage column) and that's what he said!!!! Cityman23

1:38pm Mon 9 Dec 13

jamiejoe says...

tinytoonster wrote:
“If we can kick on from March again, we might get in the play-offs.”
not if you sell our best players!
why does he have to come out to play when we are in a bad patch?
last thing we need is him speaking!!
We need to be in the running in the New Year and pushing for a play off place after Easter to be in with a shout in May.

I guess Dec and Jan will be crucial for the clubs prospects over the next few years!
[quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote: “If we can kick on from March again, we might get in the play-offs.” not if you sell our best players! why does he have to come out to play when we are in a bad patch? last thing we need is him speaking!![/p][/quote]We need to be in the running in the New Year and pushing for a play off place after Easter to be in with a shout in May. I guess Dec and Jan will be crucial for the clubs prospects over the next few years! jamiejoe

2:07pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Statler4 says...

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
realcitygent wrote:
Papa Smurfs Wig wrote:
Nobody has been sold yet and it's pure speculation that Wells is going but we do think more than likely unless one huge mind game has been played.

I looked at the fixtures for this month in September thinking, oh my, that is one hell of a hard few weeks to sort out.

I still think we are weak with Reid, he plays about but it seems about one in ten a cross gets over. We have a great foil with big James who could score more given the service and I honestly think Thompson is a bit off the pace and can't do it at all.
im glad to see there are other fans like myself who think reid is just not good enough ,cant see what parky see in him hecant cross the ball off the ground ,tends to spend lot time on his backside ,his game consists off trying to get free kicks ,or playing ball off defender for throwings , the man does not have the confidnce to take a player on one on one, amazes me why city fans like him only scores odd goal and very rarely has a good game ,maybe they living on his good goal couple month ago, i see reid nearly every game as i travel to nearly all away games, im my opionion yeates is by far better player
That would be the same free kicks he played for that drove us to the CoC final and play-offs last year, utilising our major strengths?

The same player who is doubled and sometimes trebled up, yet still manages to keep possession in the opponents half, thereby holding the pressure of our own defence?

Reid has goals and assists to his name this season and has been having his best run of games for us. If he was more consistent, with his pace and trickery he wouldn't be playing L1.

Some right nuggets are allowed near keyboards
Well said PCBA. I entirely agree. In most games now Reid is trebled up and battered by defenders. I don't know where his critics are sitting or what they imagine they are seeing but from where I sit which is in direct line with where he usually receives the ball when we're attacking the Kop I can only marvel at his skills at keeping possession in the face of unrelenting brutality from defenders.
[quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realcitygent[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Papa Smurfs Wig[/bold] wrote: Nobody has been sold yet and it's pure speculation that Wells is going but we do think more than likely unless one huge mind game has been played. I looked at the fixtures for this month in September thinking, oh my, that is one hell of a hard few weeks to sort out. I still think we are weak with Reid, he plays about but it seems about one in ten a cross gets over. We have a great foil with big James who could score more given the service and I honestly think Thompson is a bit off the pace and can't do it at all.[/p][/quote]im glad to see there are other fans like myself who think reid is just not good enough ,cant see what parky see in him hecant cross the ball off the ground ,tends to spend lot time on his backside ,his game consists off trying to get free kicks ,or playing ball off defender for throwings , the man does not have the confidnce to take a player on one on one, amazes me why city fans like him only scores odd goal and very rarely has a good game ,maybe they living on his good goal couple month ago, i see reid nearly every game as i travel to nearly all away games, im my opionion yeates is by far better player[/p][/quote]That would be the same free kicks he played for that drove us to the CoC final and play-offs last year, utilising our major strengths? The same player who is doubled and sometimes trebled up, yet still manages to keep possession in the opponents half, thereby holding the pressure of our own defence? Reid has goals and assists to his name this season and has been having his best run of games for us. If he was more consistent, with his pace and trickery he wouldn't be playing L1. Some right nuggets are allowed near keyboards[/p][/quote]Well said PCBA. I entirely agree. In most games now Reid is trebled up and battered by defenders. I don't know where his critics are sitting or what they imagine they are seeing but from where I sit which is in direct line with where he usually receives the ball when we're attacking the Kop I can only marvel at his skills at keeping possession in the face of unrelenting brutality from defenders. Statler4

2:37pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
realcitygent wrote:
Papa Smurfs Wig wrote:
Nobody has been sold yet and it's pure speculation that Wells is going but we do think more than likely unless one huge mind game has been played.

I looked at the fixtures for this month in September thinking, oh my, that is one hell of a hard few weeks to sort out.

I still think we are weak with Reid, he plays about but it seems about one in ten a cross gets over. We have a great foil with big James who could score more given the service and I honestly think Thompson is a bit off the pace and can't do it at all.
im glad to see there are other fans like myself who think reid is just not good enough ,cant see what parky see in him hecant cross the ball off the ground ,tends to spend lot time on his backside ,his game consists off trying to get free kicks ,or playing ball off defender for throwings , the man does not have the confidnce to take a player on one on one, amazes me why city fans like him only scores odd goal and very rarely has a good game ,maybe they living on his good goal couple month ago, i see reid nearly every game as i travel to nearly all away games, im my opionion yeates is by far better player
That would be the same free kicks he played for that drove us to the CoC final and play-offs last year, utilising our major strengths?

The same player who is doubled and sometimes trebled up, yet still manages to keep possession in the opponents half, thereby holding the pressure of our own defence?

Reid has goals and assists to his name this season and has been having his best run of games for us. If he was more consistent, with his pace and trickery he wouldn't be playing L1.

Some right nuggets are allowed near keyboards
I would add, that if we could get someone to play half as well as he is doing down the right hand side we'd be flying. Luckily Darby is covering for our inadequacies in that department and doesn't need the assistance a hard working wideman offers but as a few knowledgeable posters have pointed out, the RH side issue has needed addressing since last season and up to present it just hasn't been.

Reid and Mez are effective going forward and also work as a double act when defending, without being perfect but graft their proverbials off.
[quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realcitygent[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Papa Smurfs Wig[/bold] wrote: Nobody has been sold yet and it's pure speculation that Wells is going but we do think more than likely unless one huge mind game has been played. I looked at the fixtures for this month in September thinking, oh my, that is one hell of a hard few weeks to sort out. I still think we are weak with Reid, he plays about but it seems about one in ten a cross gets over. We have a great foil with big James who could score more given the service and I honestly think Thompson is a bit off the pace and can't do it at all.[/p][/quote]im glad to see there are other fans like myself who think reid is just not good enough ,cant see what parky see in him hecant cross the ball off the ground ,tends to spend lot time on his backside ,his game consists off trying to get free kicks ,or playing ball off defender for throwings , the man does not have the confidnce to take a player on one on one, amazes me why city fans like him only scores odd goal and very rarely has a good game ,maybe they living on his good goal couple month ago, i see reid nearly every game as i travel to nearly all away games, im my opionion yeates is by far better player[/p][/quote]That would be the same free kicks he played for that drove us to the CoC final and play-offs last year, utilising our major strengths? The same player who is doubled and sometimes trebled up, yet still manages to keep possession in the opponents half, thereby holding the pressure of our own defence? Reid has goals and assists to his name this season and has been having his best run of games for us. If he was more consistent, with his pace and trickery he wouldn't be playing L1. Some right nuggets are allowed near keyboards[/p][/quote]I would add, that if we could get someone to play half as well as he is doing down the right hand side we'd be flying. Luckily Darby is covering for our inadequacies in that department and doesn't need the assistance a hard working wideman offers but as a few knowledgeable posters have pointed out, the RH side issue has needed addressing since last season and up to present it just hasn't been. Reid and Mez are effective going forward and also work as a double act when defending, without being perfect but graft their proverbials off. Prisoner Cell Block A

3:47pm Mon 9 Dec 13

whisky1 says...

Re Reidy..well worth his place in the team and quite rightly picked consistently by Parky. He could be more consistent and his technique sometimes lets him down but if he ticked more boxes he would be playing a level higher. Opposing managers always target him a hence the doubling (and trebling) up on him and the kicking he takes.

Re Lawn..you only have to look at the Bulls to thank God we have a decent pair of fans and businessmen at the helm. Long may they continue
Re Reidy..well worth his place in the team and quite rightly picked consistently by Parky. He could be more consistent and his technique sometimes lets him down but if he ticked more boxes he would be playing a level higher. Opposing managers always target him a hence the doubling (and trebling) up on him and the kicking he takes. Re Lawn..you only have to look at the Bulls to thank God we have a decent pair of fans and businessmen at the helm. Long may they continue whisky1

8:04pm Mon 9 Dec 13

bdsixer says...

Wells has been on the radar of bigger clubs for months and the fact that he scores goals is the reason and THE ONLY reason why we will lose his services ...sooner rather than later, and nothing to do with anything that any club official has to say about him.
We are Bradford City not Real Madrid, money and the ambition of any player will be the factor in whether Wells stays or goes.... another factor to remember is a players agent who usually gets a handsome pay day if he procures a big money move for a player.
Football is now more of a business than a sport imo, so us fans need to adapt out thoughts and start thinking how we would run this club, I bet if we could spend a day in the Chairmans shoes we would be more sympathetic to how ML and JR go about running this fine club
Wells has been on the radar of bigger clubs for months and the fact that he scores goals is the reason and THE ONLY reason why we will lose his services ...sooner rather than later, and nothing to do with anything that any club official has to say about him. We are Bradford City not Real Madrid, money and the ambition of any player will be the factor in whether Wells stays or goes.... another factor to remember is a players agent who usually gets a handsome pay day if he procures a big money move for a player. Football is now more of a business than a sport imo, so us fans need to adapt out thoughts and start thinking how we would run this club, I bet if we could spend a day in the Chairmans shoes we would be more sympathetic to how ML and JR go about running this fine club bdsixer

9:12pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Statler4 says...

bdsixer wrote:
Wells has been on the radar of bigger clubs for months and the fact that he scores goals is the reason and THE ONLY reason why we will lose his services ...sooner rather than later, and nothing to do with anything that any club official has to say about him.
We are Bradford City not Real Madrid, money and the ambition of any player will be the factor in whether Wells stays or goes.... another factor to remember is a players agent who usually gets a handsome pay day if he procures a big money move for a player.
Football is now more of a business than a sport imo, so us fans need to adapt out thoughts and start thinking how we would run this club, I bet if we could spend a day in the Chairmans shoes we would be more sympathetic to how ML and JR go about running this fine club
My thoughts exactly
[quote][p][bold]bdsixer[/bold] wrote: Wells has been on the radar of bigger clubs for months and the fact that he scores goals is the reason and THE ONLY reason why we will lose his services ...sooner rather than later, and nothing to do with anything that any club official has to say about him. We are Bradford City not Real Madrid, money and the ambition of any player will be the factor in whether Wells stays or goes.... another factor to remember is a players agent who usually gets a handsome pay day if he procures a big money move for a player. Football is now more of a business than a sport imo, so us fans need to adapt out thoughts and start thinking how we would run this club, I bet if we could spend a day in the Chairmans shoes we would be more sympathetic to how ML and JR go about running this fine club[/p][/quote]My thoughts exactly Statler4

9:47pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Papa Smurfs Wig says...

Statler4 wrote:
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
realcitygent wrote:
Papa Smurfs Wig wrote:
Nobody has been sold yet and it's pure speculation that Wells is going but we do think more than likely unless one huge mind game has been played.

I looked at the fixtures for this month in September thinking, oh my, that is one hell of a hard few weeks to sort out.

I still think we are weak with Reid, he plays about but it seems about one in ten a cross gets over. We have a great foil with big James who could score more given the service and I honestly think Thompson is a bit off the pace and can't do it at all.
im glad to see there are other fans like myself who think reid is just not good enough ,cant see what parky see in him hecant cross the ball off the ground ,tends to spend lot time on his backside ,his game consists off trying to get free kicks ,or playing ball off defender for throwings , the man does not have the confidnce to take a player on one on one, amazes me why city fans like him only scores odd goal and very rarely has a good game ,maybe they living on his good goal couple month ago, i see reid nearly every game as i travel to nearly all away games, im my opionion yeates is by far better player
That would be the same free kicks he played for that drove us to the CoC final and play-offs last year, utilising our major strengths?

The same player who is doubled and sometimes trebled up, yet still manages to keep possession in the opponents half, thereby holding the pressure of our own defence?

Reid has goals and assists to his name this season and has been having his best run of games for us. If he was more consistent, with his pace and trickery he wouldn't be playing L1.

Some right nuggets are allowed near keyboards
Well said PCBA. I entirely agree. In most games now Reid is trebled up and battered by defenders. I don't know where his critics are sitting or what they imagine they are seeing but from where I sit which is in direct line with where he usually receives the ball when we're attacking the Kop I can only marvel at his skills at keeping possession in the face of unrelenting brutality from defenders.
I'm gonna get myself some of those shades that make players look like they are playing better. I don't do drugs but are you meant to have a spliff to post on here thinking you have seen something like a Reid cross in the air to his man?

If he plays well and is more consistent then I'd praise him but it's not nice sat in the prawn sandwich seating watching a player run around in circles then do a 5.9 dive and cheat. To be in those padded seats means to good honest footy and no messing.
[quote][p][bold]Statler4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realcitygent[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Papa Smurfs Wig[/bold] wrote: Nobody has been sold yet and it's pure speculation that Wells is going but we do think more than likely unless one huge mind game has been played. I looked at the fixtures for this month in September thinking, oh my, that is one hell of a hard few weeks to sort out. I still think we are weak with Reid, he plays about but it seems about one in ten a cross gets over. We have a great foil with big James who could score more given the service and I honestly think Thompson is a bit off the pace and can't do it at all.[/p][/quote]im glad to see there are other fans like myself who think reid is just not good enough ,cant see what parky see in him hecant cross the ball off the ground ,tends to spend lot time on his backside ,his game consists off trying to get free kicks ,or playing ball off defender for throwings , the man does not have the confidnce to take a player on one on one, amazes me why city fans like him only scores odd goal and very rarely has a good game ,maybe they living on his good goal couple month ago, i see reid nearly every game as i travel to nearly all away games, im my opionion yeates is by far better player[/p][/quote]That would be the same free kicks he played for that drove us to the CoC final and play-offs last year, utilising our major strengths? The same player who is doubled and sometimes trebled up, yet still manages to keep possession in the opponents half, thereby holding the pressure of our own defence? Reid has goals and assists to his name this season and has been having his best run of games for us. If he was more consistent, with his pace and trickery he wouldn't be playing L1. Some right nuggets are allowed near keyboards[/p][/quote]Well said PCBA. I entirely agree. In most games now Reid is trebled up and battered by defenders. I don't know where his critics are sitting or what they imagine they are seeing but from where I sit which is in direct line with where he usually receives the ball when we're attacking the Kop I can only marvel at his skills at keeping possession in the face of unrelenting brutality from defenders.[/p][/quote]I'm gonna get myself some of those shades that make players look like they are playing better. I don't do drugs but are you meant to have a spliff to post on here thinking you have seen something like a Reid cross in the air to his man? If he plays well and is more consistent then I'd praise him but it's not nice sat in the prawn sandwich seating watching a player run around in circles then do a 5.9 dive and cheat. To be in those padded seats means to good honest footy and no messing. Papa Smurfs Wig

9:55pm Mon 9 Dec 13

northyorksbantam says...

realcitygent wrote:
Papa Smurfs Wig wrote: Nobody has been sold yet and it's pure speculation that Wells is going but we do think more than likely unless one huge mind game has been played. I looked at the fixtures for this month in September thinking, oh my, that is one hell of a hard few weeks to sort out. I still think we are weak with Reid, he plays about but it seems about one in ten a cross gets over. We have a great foil with big James who could score more given the service and I honestly think Thompson is a bit off the pace and can't do it at all.
im glad to see there are other fans like myself who think reid is just not good enough ,cant see what parky see in him hecant cross the ball off the ground ,tends to spend lot time on his backside ,his game consists off trying to get free kicks ,or playing ball off defender for throwings , the man does not have the confidnce to take a player on one on one, amazes me why city fans like him only scores odd goal and very rarely has a good game ,maybe they living on his good goal couple month ago, i see reid nearly every game as i travel to nearly all away games, im my opionion yeates is by far better player
I take it you didn't go to Preston?
[quote][p][bold]realcitygent[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Papa Smurfs Wig[/bold] wrote: Nobody has been sold yet and it's pure speculation that Wells is going but we do think more than likely unless one huge mind game has been played. I looked at the fixtures for this month in September thinking, oh my, that is one hell of a hard few weeks to sort out. I still think we are weak with Reid, he plays about but it seems about one in ten a cross gets over. We have a great foil with big James who could score more given the service and I honestly think Thompson is a bit off the pace and can't do it at all.[/p][/quote]im glad to see there are other fans like myself who think reid is just not good enough ,cant see what parky see in him hecant cross the ball off the ground ,tends to spend lot time on his backside ,his game consists off trying to get free kicks ,or playing ball off defender for throwings , the man does not have the confidnce to take a player on one on one, amazes me why city fans like him only scores odd goal and very rarely has a good game ,maybe they living on his good goal couple month ago, i see reid nearly every game as i travel to nearly all away games, im my opionion yeates is by far better player[/p][/quote]I take it you didn't go to Preston? northyorksbantam

9:22am Tue 10 Dec 13

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

Papa Smurfs Wig wrote:
Statler4 wrote:
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
realcitygent wrote:
Papa Smurfs Wig wrote:
Nobody has been sold yet and it's pure speculation that Wells is going but we do think more than likely unless one huge mind game has been played.

I looked at the fixtures for this month in September thinking, oh my, that is one hell of a hard few weeks to sort out.

I still think we are weak with Reid, he plays about but it seems about one in ten a cross gets over. We have a great foil with big James who could score more given the service and I honestly think Thompson is a bit off the pace and can't do it at all.
im glad to see there are other fans like myself who think reid is just not good enough ,cant see what parky see in him hecant cross the ball off the ground ,tends to spend lot time on his backside ,his game consists off trying to get free kicks ,or playing ball off defender for throwings , the man does not have the confidnce to take a player on one on one, amazes me why city fans like him only scores odd goal and very rarely has a good game ,maybe they living on his good goal couple month ago, i see reid nearly every game as i travel to nearly all away games, im my opionion yeates is by far better player
That would be the same free kicks he played for that drove us to the CoC final and play-offs last year, utilising our major strengths?

The same player who is doubled and sometimes trebled up, yet still manages to keep possession in the opponents half, thereby holding the pressure of our own defence?

Reid has goals and assists to his name this season and has been having his best run of games for us. If he was more consistent, with his pace and trickery he wouldn't be playing L1.

Some right nuggets are allowed near keyboards
Well said PCBA. I entirely agree. In most games now Reid is trebled up and battered by defenders. I don't know where his critics are sitting or what they imagine they are seeing but from where I sit which is in direct line with where he usually receives the ball when we're attacking the Kop I can only marvel at his skills at keeping possession in the face of unrelenting brutality from defenders.
I'm gonna get myself some of those shades that make players look like they are playing better. I don't do drugs but are you meant to have a spliff to post on here thinking you have seen something like a Reid cross in the air to his man?

If he plays well and is more consistent then I'd praise him but it's not nice sat in the prawn sandwich seating watching a player run around in circles then do a 5.9 dive and cheat. To be in those padded seats means to good honest footy and no messing.
Are you sure you don't do drugs, that barely made sense.

Parky has compiled a video to send to the referees supremo to show that Reid does in fact NOT DIVE, I have seen him deliver a RANGE of crosses this season, from driven balls to lofted crosses to pull backs, as I, and others above have said, if he was more consistent he wouldn't be playing L1 football or for Bradford City.

I think it is probably better you get bi-focals or vari-focals, not shades, you are struggling to see what you are looking at already, making it more shady would make it pointless you even attending. If it isn't already.
[quote][p][bold]Papa Smurfs Wig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Statler4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realcitygent[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Papa Smurfs Wig[/bold] wrote: Nobody has been sold yet and it's pure speculation that Wells is going but we do think more than likely unless one huge mind game has been played. I looked at the fixtures for this month in September thinking, oh my, that is one hell of a hard few weeks to sort out. I still think we are weak with Reid, he plays about but it seems about one in ten a cross gets over. We have a great foil with big James who could score more given the service and I honestly think Thompson is a bit off the pace and can't do it at all.[/p][/quote]im glad to see there are other fans like myself who think reid is just not good enough ,cant see what parky see in him hecant cross the ball off the ground ,tends to spend lot time on his backside ,his game consists off trying to get free kicks ,or playing ball off defender for throwings , the man does not have the confidnce to take a player on one on one, amazes me why city fans like him only scores odd goal and very rarely has a good game ,maybe they living on his good goal couple month ago, i see reid nearly every game as i travel to nearly all away games, im my opionion yeates is by far better player[/p][/quote]That would be the same free kicks he played for that drove us to the CoC final and play-offs last year, utilising our major strengths? The same player who is doubled and sometimes trebled up, yet still manages to keep possession in the opponents half, thereby holding the pressure of our own defence? Reid has goals and assists to his name this season and has been having his best run of games for us. If he was more consistent, with his pace and trickery he wouldn't be playing L1. Some right nuggets are allowed near keyboards[/p][/quote]Well said PCBA. I entirely agree. In most games now Reid is trebled up and battered by defenders. I don't know where his critics are sitting or what they imagine they are seeing but from where I sit which is in direct line with where he usually receives the ball when we're attacking the Kop I can only marvel at his skills at keeping possession in the face of unrelenting brutality from defenders.[/p][/quote]I'm gonna get myself some of those shades that make players look like they are playing better. I don't do drugs but are you meant to have a spliff to post on here thinking you have seen something like a Reid cross in the air to his man? If he plays well and is more consistent then I'd praise him but it's not nice sat in the prawn sandwich seating watching a player run around in circles then do a 5.9 dive and cheat. To be in those padded seats means to good honest footy and no messing.[/p][/quote]Are you sure you don't do drugs, that barely made sense. Parky has compiled a video to send to the referees supremo to show that Reid does in fact NOT DIVE, I have seen him deliver a RANGE of crosses this season, from driven balls to lofted crosses to pull backs, as I, and others above have said, if he was more consistent he wouldn't be playing L1 football or for Bradford City. I think it is probably better you get bi-focals or vari-focals, not shades, you are struggling to see what you are looking at already, making it more shady would make it pointless you even attending. If it isn't already. Prisoner Cell Block A

10:37am Tue 10 Dec 13

pudseykid says...

This one is about PPs comment concerning match fixing..I am a little surprised as cheating in 1 for m or another has been going on for many years, it starts at the "grass routes", including school football! Several years ago "school football coach" from the Wakefield areatold his squad at half time (and I quote) "IF u want to win this game, take out their No 9"...his team did that and took th cup home that day..The ref actually chuckled at the foul on the Pudsey No9...but didnt do anything...CHEATS can get away with it..this investigation will only scratch the surface..Ashley Young dives quite a lot and he isnt the only TOP class player who does. CHEATING has to be stopped..ON/Off the field
This one is about PPs comment concerning match fixing..I am a little surprised as cheating in 1 for m or another has been going on for many years, it starts at the "grass routes", including school football! Several years ago "school football coach" from the Wakefield areatold his squad at half time (and I quote) "IF u want to win this game, take out their No 9"...his team did that and took th cup home that day..The ref actually chuckled at the foul on the Pudsey No9...but didnt do anything...CHEATS can get away with it..this investigation will only scratch the surface..Ashley Young dives quite a lot and he isnt the only TOP class player who does. CHEATING has to be stopped..ON/Off the field pudseykid

11:01am Tue 10 Dec 13

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

pudseykid wrote:
This one is about PPs comment concerning match fixing..I am a little surprised as cheating in 1 for m or another has been going on for many years, it starts at the "grass routes", including school football! Several years ago "school football coach" from the Wakefield areatold his squad at half time (and I quote) "IF u want to win this game, take out their No 9"...his team did that and took th cup home that day..The ref actually chuckled at the foul on the Pudsey No9...but didnt do anything...CHEATS can get away with it..this investigation will only scratch the surface..Ashley Young dives quite a lot and he isnt the only TOP class player who does. CHEATING has to be stopped..ON/Off the field
Ron Atkinson used to employ a similar tactic and called it a 'leveller'. If a club had a decent winger or forward he would ask one of his players to 'do him' by the half way line, early on. Usually ending in nothing more than free kick but with the product of slowing the fouled player down
[quote][p][bold]pudseykid[/bold] wrote: This one is about PPs comment concerning match fixing..I am a little surprised as cheating in 1 for m or another has been going on for many years, it starts at the "grass routes", including school football! Several years ago "school football coach" from the Wakefield areatold his squad at half time (and I quote) "IF u want to win this game, take out their No 9"...his team did that and took th cup home that day..The ref actually chuckled at the foul on the Pudsey No9...but didnt do anything...CHEATS can get away with it..this investigation will only scratch the surface..Ashley Young dives quite a lot and he isnt the only TOP class player who does. CHEATING has to be stopped..ON/Off the field[/p][/quote]Ron Atkinson used to employ a similar tactic and called it a 'leveller'. If a club had a decent winger or forward he would ask one of his players to 'do him' by the half way line, early on. Usually ending in nothing more than free kick but with the product of slowing the fouled player down Prisoner Cell Block A

7:46pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Papa Smurfs Wig says...

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
Papa Smurfs Wig wrote:
Statler4 wrote:
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
realcitygent wrote:
Papa Smurfs Wig wrote:
Nobody has been sold yet and it's pure speculation that Wells is going but we do think more than likely unless one huge mind game has been played.

I looked at the fixtures for this month in September thinking, oh my, that is one hell of a hard few weeks to sort out.

I still think we are weak with Reid, he plays about but it seems about one in ten a cross gets over. We have a great foil with big James who could score more given the service and I honestly think Thompson is a bit off the pace and can't do it at all.
im glad to see there are other fans like myself who think reid is just not good enough ,cant see what parky see in him hecant cross the ball off the ground ,tends to spend lot time on his backside ,his game consists off trying to get free kicks ,or playing ball off defender for throwings , the man does not have the confidnce to take a player on one on one, amazes me why city fans like him only scores odd goal and very rarely has a good game ,maybe they living on his good goal couple month ago, i see reid nearly every game as i travel to nearly all away games, im my opionion yeates is by far better player
That would be the same free kicks he played for that drove us to the CoC final and play-offs last year, utilising our major strengths?

The same player who is doubled and sometimes trebled up, yet still manages to keep possession in the opponents half, thereby holding the pressure of our own defence?

Reid has goals and assists to his name this season and has been having his best run of games for us. If he was more consistent, with his pace and trickery he wouldn't be playing L1.

Some right nuggets are allowed near keyboards
Well said PCBA. I entirely agree. In most games now Reid is trebled up and battered by defenders. I don't know where his critics are sitting or what they imagine they are seeing but from where I sit which is in direct line with where he usually receives the ball when we're attacking the Kop I can only marvel at his skills at keeping possession in the face of unrelenting brutality from defenders.
I'm gonna get myself some of those shades that make players look like they are playing better. I don't do drugs but are you meant to have a spliff to post on here thinking you have seen something like a Reid cross in the air to his man?

If he plays well and is more consistent then I'd praise him but it's not nice sat in the prawn sandwich seating watching a player run around in circles then do a 5.9 dive and cheat. To be in those padded seats means to good honest footy and no messing.
Are you sure you don't do drugs, that barely made sense.

Parky has compiled a video to send to the referees supremo to show that Reid does in fact NOT DIVE, I have seen him deliver a RANGE of crosses this season, from driven balls to lofted crosses to pull backs, as I, and others above have said, if he was more consistent he wouldn't be playing L1 football or for Bradford City.

I think it is probably better you get bi-focals or vari-focals, not shades, you are struggling to see what you are looking at already, making it more shady would make it pointless you even attending. If it isn't already.
If you can't decipher that Mr Blockhead then you really shouldn't be allowed internet access as you could be dangerous. I thought bifocals were for distance and reading but it depends what you use as yours must be rose tinted with the lavish stories you and some of your chums on here churn out.

Peter 300: You might boss this lot with your witty but shocking answers to each person individually but I'm here now and you won't boss me into a corner. And your quip about me not liking wingers, Hmm well one of the early wingers I liked was a certain John Hall but if you joined up as a fan when we got to the top flight then you won't know him.

If Reid does anything good then I'll say it but if he's inconsistent you will know about it.

Preston, one of his better games, can you mention many more fella? Yes he had that goal that could have ended up over the stand but it went in, it was a chance that went well and the greed of Reid was more common hence why he has the nickname 'Greedy Reidy'.

Now look at the whole picture and try it with an unbiased opinion or don't post or you sound like Blockhead. Then again post and a few of us who know the game will laugh.
[quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Papa Smurfs Wig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Statler4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realcitygent[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Papa Smurfs Wig[/bold] wrote: Nobody has been sold yet and it's pure speculation that Wells is going but we do think more than likely unless one huge mind game has been played. I looked at the fixtures for this month in September thinking, oh my, that is one hell of a hard few weeks to sort out. I still think we are weak with Reid, he plays about but it seems about one in ten a cross gets over. We have a great foil with big James who could score more given the service and I honestly think Thompson is a bit off the pace and can't do it at all.[/p][/quote]im glad to see there are other fans like myself who think reid is just not good enough ,cant see what parky see in him hecant cross the ball off the ground ,tends to spend lot time on his backside ,his game consists off trying to get free kicks ,or playing ball off defender for throwings , the man does not have the confidnce to take a player on one on one, amazes me why city fans like him only scores odd goal and very rarely has a good game ,maybe they living on his good goal couple month ago, i see reid nearly every game as i travel to nearly all away games, im my opionion yeates is by far better player[/p][/quote]That would be the same free kicks he played for that drove us to the CoC final and play-offs last year, utilising our major strengths? The same player who is doubled and sometimes trebled up, yet still manages to keep possession in the opponents half, thereby holding the pressure of our own defence? Reid has goals and assists to his name this season and has been having his best run of games for us. If he was more consistent, with his pace and trickery he wouldn't be playing L1. Some right nuggets are allowed near keyboards[/p][/quote]Well said PCBA. I entirely agree. In most games now Reid is trebled up and battered by defenders. I don't know where his critics are sitting or what they imagine they are seeing but from where I sit which is in direct line with where he usually receives the ball when we're attacking the Kop I can only marvel at his skills at keeping possession in the face of unrelenting brutality from defenders.[/p][/quote]I'm gonna get myself some of those shades that make players look like they are playing better. I don't do drugs but are you meant to have a spliff to post on here thinking you have seen something like a Reid cross in the air to his man? If he plays well and is more consistent then I'd praise him but it's not nice sat in the prawn sandwich seating watching a player run around in circles then do a 5.9 dive and cheat. To be in those padded seats means to good honest footy and no messing.[/p][/quote]Are you sure you don't do drugs, that barely made sense. Parky has compiled a video to send to the referees supremo to show that Reid does in fact NOT DIVE, I have seen him deliver a RANGE of crosses this season, from driven balls to lofted crosses to pull backs, as I, and others above have said, if he was more consistent he wouldn't be playing L1 football or for Bradford City. I think it is probably better you get bi-focals or vari-focals, not shades, you are struggling to see what you are looking at already, making it more shady would make it pointless you even attending. If it isn't already.[/p][/quote]If you can't decipher that Mr Blockhead then you really shouldn't be allowed internet access as you could be dangerous. I thought bifocals were for distance and reading but it depends what you use as yours must be rose tinted with the lavish stories you and some of your chums on here churn out. Peter 300: You might boss this lot with your witty but shocking answers to each person individually but I'm here now and you won't boss me into a corner. And your quip about me not liking wingers, Hmm well one of the early wingers I liked was a certain John Hall but if you joined up as a fan when we got to the top flight then you won't know him. If Reid does anything good then I'll say it but if he's inconsistent you will know about it. Preston, one of his better games, can you mention many more fella? Yes he had that goal that could have ended up over the stand but it went in, it was a chance that went well and the greed of Reid was more common hence why he has the nickname 'Greedy Reidy'. Now look at the whole picture and try it with an unbiased opinion or don't post or you sound like Blockhead. Then again post and a few of us who know the game will laugh. Papa Smurfs Wig

8:35am Wed 11 Dec 13

Michael Clayton says...

Papa Smurfs Wig wrote:
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
Papa Smurfs Wig wrote:
Statler4 wrote:
Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
realcitygent wrote:
Papa Smurfs Wig wrote: Nobody has been sold yet and it's pure speculation that Wells is going but we do think more than likely unless one huge mind game has been played. I looked at the fixtures for this month in September thinking, oh my, that is one hell of a hard few weeks to sort out. I still think we are weak with Reid, he plays about but it seems about one in ten a cross gets over. We have a great foil with big James who could score more given the service and I honestly think Thompson is a bit off the pace and can't do it at all.
im glad to see there are other fans like myself who think reid is just not good enough ,cant see what parky see in him hecant cross the ball off the ground ,tends to spend lot time on his backside ,his game consists off trying to get free kicks ,or playing ball off defender for throwings , the man does not have the confidnce to take a player on one on one, amazes me why city fans like him only scores odd goal and very rarely has a good game ,maybe they living on his good goal couple month ago, i see reid nearly every game as i travel to nearly all away games, im my opionion yeates is by far better player
That would be the same free kicks he played for that drove us to the CoC final and play-offs last year, utilising our major strengths? The same player who is doubled and sometimes trebled up, yet still manages to keep possession in the opponents half, thereby holding the pressure of our own defence? Reid has goals and assists to his name this season and has been having his best run of games for us. If he was more consistent, with his pace and trickery he wouldn't be playing L1. Some right nuggets are allowed near keyboards
Well said PCBA. I entirely agree. In most games now Reid is trebled up and battered by defenders. I don't know where his critics are sitting or what they imagine they are seeing but from where I sit which is in direct line with where he usually receives the ball when we're attacking the Kop I can only marvel at his skills at keeping possession in the face of unrelenting brutality from defenders.
I'm gonna get myself some of those shades that make players look like they are playing better. I don't do drugs but are you meant to have a spliff to post on here thinking you have seen something like a Reid cross in the air to his man? If he plays well and is more consistent then I'd praise him but it's not nice sat in the prawn sandwich seating watching a player run around in circles then do a 5.9 dive and cheat. To be in those padded seats means to good honest footy and no messing.
Are you sure you don't do drugs, that barely made sense. Parky has compiled a video to send to the referees supremo to show that Reid does in fact NOT DIVE, I have seen him deliver a RANGE of crosses this season, from driven balls to lofted crosses to pull backs, as I, and others above have said, if he was more consistent he wouldn't be playing L1 football or for Bradford City. I think it is probably better you get bi-focals or vari-focals, not shades, you are struggling to see what you are looking at already, making it more shady would make it pointless you even attending. If it isn't already.
If you can't decipher that Mr Blockhead then you really shouldn't be allowed internet access as you could be dangerous. I thought bifocals were for distance and reading but it depends what you use as yours must be rose tinted with the lavish stories you and some of your chums on here churn out. Peter 300: You might boss this lot with your witty but shocking answers to each person individually but I'm here now and you won't boss me into a corner. And your quip about me not liking wingers, Hmm well one of the early wingers I liked was a certain John Hall but if you joined up as a fan when we got to the top flight then you won't know him. If Reid does anything good then I'll say it but if he's inconsistent you will know about it. Preston, one of his better games, can you mention many more fella? Yes he had that goal that could have ended up over the stand but it went in, it was a chance that went well and the greed of Reid was more common hence why he has the nickname 'Greedy Reidy'. Now look at the whole picture and try it with an unbiased opinion or don't post or you sound like Blockhead. Then again post and a few of us who know the game will laugh.
An opinion is a personal belief (in this case, your view as to Reid's performances) which hasn't been altered by circumstance other than your path as a City fan.

Alternatively, a bias opinion is when you have some connection to the subject under discussion.

Unless you know that PCBA has such a connection with the player and/or the club, then you should respect his right to an opinion and not level accusations of bias simply because you do not agree with him.

If you are not prepared to accept someone's opinion, why initiate a discussion that is likely to generate a response?
[quote][p][bold]Papa Smurfs Wig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Papa Smurfs Wig[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Statler4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]realcitygent[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Papa Smurfs Wig[/bold] wrote: Nobody has been sold yet and it's pure speculation that Wells is going but we do think more than likely unless one huge mind game has been played. I looked at the fixtures for this month in September thinking, oh my, that is one hell of a hard few weeks to sort out. I still think we are weak with Reid, he plays about but it seems about one in ten a cross gets over. We have a great foil with big James who could score more given the service and I honestly think Thompson is a bit off the pace and can't do it at all.[/p][/quote]im glad to see there are other fans like myself who think reid is just not good enough ,cant see what parky see in him hecant cross the ball off the ground ,tends to spend lot time on his backside ,his game consists off trying to get free kicks ,or playing ball off defender for throwings , the man does not have the confidnce to take a player on one on one, amazes me why city fans like him only scores odd goal and very rarely has a good game ,maybe they living on his good goal couple month ago, i see reid nearly every game as i travel to nearly all away games, im my opionion yeates is by far better player[/p][/quote]That would be the same free kicks he played for that drove us to the CoC final and play-offs last year, utilising our major strengths? The same player who is doubled and sometimes trebled up, yet still manages to keep possession in the opponents half, thereby holding the pressure of our own defence? Reid has goals and assists to his name this season and has been having his best run of games for us. If he was more consistent, with his pace and trickery he wouldn't be playing L1. Some right nuggets are allowed near keyboards[/p][/quote]Well said PCBA. I entirely agree. In most games now Reid is trebled up and battered by defenders. I don't know where his critics are sitting or what they imagine they are seeing but from where I sit which is in direct line with where he usually receives the ball when we're attacking the Kop I can only marvel at his skills at keeping possession in the face of unrelenting brutality from defenders.[/p][/quote]I'm gonna get myself some of those shades that make players look like they are playing better. I don't do drugs but are you meant to have a spliff to post on here thinking you have seen something like a Reid cross in the air to his man? If he plays well and is more consistent then I'd praise him but it's not nice sat in the prawn sandwich seating watching a player run around in circles then do a 5.9 dive and cheat. To be in those padded seats means to good honest footy and no messing.[/p][/quote]Are you sure you don't do drugs, that barely made sense. Parky has compiled a video to send to the referees supremo to show that Reid does in fact NOT DIVE, I have seen him deliver a RANGE of crosses this season, from driven balls to lofted crosses to pull backs, as I, and others above have said, if he was more consistent he wouldn't be playing L1 football or for Bradford City. I think it is probably better you get bi-focals or vari-focals, not shades, you are struggling to see what you are looking at already, making it more shady would make it pointless you even attending. If it isn't already.[/p][/quote]If you can't decipher that Mr Blockhead then you really shouldn't be allowed internet access as you could be dangerous. I thought bifocals were for distance and reading but it depends what you use as yours must be rose tinted with the lavish stories you and some of your chums on here churn out. Peter 300: You might boss this lot with your witty but shocking answers to each person individually but I'm here now and you won't boss me into a corner. And your quip about me not liking wingers, Hmm well one of the early wingers I liked was a certain John Hall but if you joined up as a fan when we got to the top flight then you won't know him. If Reid does anything good then I'll say it but if he's inconsistent you will know about it. Preston, one of his better games, can you mention many more fella? Yes he had that goal that could have ended up over the stand but it went in, it was a chance that went well and the greed of Reid was more common hence why he has the nickname 'Greedy Reidy'. Now look at the whole picture and try it with an unbiased opinion or don't post or you sound like Blockhead. Then again post and a few of us who know the game will laugh.[/p][/quote]An opinion is a personal belief (in this case, your view as to Reid's performances) which hasn't been altered by circumstance other than your path as a City fan. Alternatively, a bias opinion is when you have some connection to the subject under discussion. Unless you know that PCBA has such a connection with the player and/or the club, then you should respect his right to an opinion and not level accusations of bias simply because you do not agree with him. If you are not prepared to accept someone's opinion, why initiate a discussion that is likely to generate a response? Michael Clayton

9:21am Wed 11 Dec 13

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

""but it's not nice sat in the prawn sandwich seating watching a player run around in circles then do a 5.9 dive and cheat. To be in those padded seats means to good honest footy and no messing."""

Nope, still means nothing to me, did you mean 'cell' not 'seats'??

As for Reid and his crosses, you insist that a winger only supplies crosses in the air, to his man, I countered with the fact he has put many varying crosses in, which is far more important and harder to read, admittedly they may not all come across as he intended, the goal you mention for example, they may not always even come across but he is valuable to the team in the fact he retains possession in the opponents half, draws 2 to 3 men towards him and does score and create goals. He is also the hardest working of our widemen tackling back and assisting his full back when needed.

As for the nickname You have given him, I can't say I have heard that, either at the matches or on any forum, if you don't like the guy then fair enough, we all have opinions but as mine coincides with the manager I'll feel slightly more confident that mine is more likely to be correct than yours.

I still suggest no shades, it may help you see what you are looking at.

PS, My time of watching started in the Don Hutchins era, so I also know what a lower league winger is like.
""but it's not nice sat in the prawn sandwich seating watching a player run around in circles then do a 5.9 dive and cheat. To be in those padded seats means to good honest footy and no messing.""" Nope, still means nothing to me, did you mean 'cell' not 'seats'?? As for Reid and his crosses, you insist that a winger only supplies crosses in the air, to his man, I countered with the fact he has put many varying crosses in, which is far more important and harder to read, admittedly they may not all come across as he intended, the goal you mention for example, they may not always even come across but he is valuable to the team in the fact he retains possession in the opponents half, draws 2 to 3 men towards him and does score and create goals. He is also the hardest working of our widemen tackling back and assisting his full back when needed. As for the nickname You have given him, I can't say I have heard that, either at the matches or on any forum, if you don't like the guy then fair enough, we all have opinions but as mine coincides with the manager I'll feel slightly more confident that mine is more likely to be correct than yours. I still suggest no shades, it may help you see what you are looking at. PS, My time of watching started in the Don Hutchins era, so I also know what a lower league winger is like. Prisoner Cell Block A

5:56pm Wed 11 Dec 13

lawsonio123 says...

A lot is being said about the Directors but they have put the money into CITY and are CITY through and through Time to leave Reid alone he is doing a fair job Wells what will be will be Lets all have a great Christmas cheer the team and enjoy the football
A lot is being said about the Directors but they have put the money into CITY and are CITY through and through Time to leave Reid alone he is doing a fair job Wells what will be will be Lets all have a great Christmas cheer the team and enjoy the football lawsonio123

7:19pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Papa Smurfs Wig says...

Ah yes, Don was a great winger and I used to speak to him many times in the banqueting suite where he used to work, he might still but I haven't seen him for a while but he came after John Hall so my likeness of decent wingers goes back a bit further.
I don't dislike Reid at all, he might be a very nice bloke and I don't falter his work rate but I find that his distribution and the occasional cheating is letting the team down. I think he should have had a penalty at Oldham and because he's prone to diving then that might have swayed the officials not to award us a spot kick.
There, I hope you got all that and if you see todays (Wednesdays comments then you will see a few others questioning Reids contribution and in my opinion it could be better.
Ah yes, Don was a great winger and I used to speak to him many times in the banqueting suite where he used to work, he might still but I haven't seen him for a while but he came after John Hall so my likeness of decent wingers goes back a bit further. I don't dislike Reid at all, he might be a very nice bloke and I don't falter his work rate but I find that his distribution and the occasional cheating is letting the team down. I think he should have had a penalty at Oldham and because he's prone to diving then that might have swayed the officials not to award us a spot kick. There, I hope you got all that and if you see todays (Wednesdays comments then you will see a few others questioning Reids contribution and in my opinion it could be better. Papa Smurfs Wig

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