Andrew Davies: Nahki Wells can achieve ambitions staying at Bradford City

Bradford Telegraph and Argus: Nahki Wells has netted 22 times in his last 25 City appearances Nahki Wells has netted 22 times in his last 25 City appearances

Andrew Davies today urged City team-mate Nahki Wells: Stick with us for now.

The 14-goal striker is expected to be hot property during next month’s transfer window as Championship clubs keenly track his progress.

Joint-chairman Julian Rhodes has already admitted that City have to prepare for “all eventualities” with Wells, who has given no indication so far that he will follow James Hanson’s lead and commit to a longer deal.

Davies understands the in-demand Bermuda international wanting to test himself at a higher level. But he believes Wells, whose current contract runs until the end of next season, can still achieve those ambitions by staying put at Valley Parade.

Writing in his Telegraph & Argus column, City’s influential defender said: “I don’t think he needs to go anywhere now. The fans love him, the gaffer loves him and the lads really like him.

“Nahki is only 23 and his big moves and his money will come. Keep scoring goals and it doesn’t matter what team or division he’s at, clubs will be interested.

“I hear people are talking about a £3million price tag for him but that will shoot up to £5-6million if he keeps scoring goals and we move up to the Championship.

“You look at Dwight Gayle, who went from Dagenham to Crystal Palace for £6million rising to £8million. I’ve played against them both and I don’t think he can lace Nahki’s boots.”

Wells is almost halfway towards his pre-season target of 30 goals in this campaign – but his explosive run dates back to the promotion run-in.

Starting with the winner at home to Northampton on April 6, he has netted 22 times in his last 25 City appearances. It is that prolific strike-rate which has inevitably brought Wells to the attention of teams further up the ladder.

Davies said: “I feel that if Bradford want to keep moving forward, you need to keep your best players and Nahki is certainly one of them.

“In an ideal world, I’d do whatever it takes to keep him and I’m sure the manager and the two chairmen will do their best for the club and try to do that.

“If we can add a couple of players in January instead of selling, I honestly and truly believe that we can go up again this year. Nahki’s scoring, Hans will get goals and I think we can have a real go.

“But we are going to struggle to replace Nahki Wells if he leaves. He would be a massive loss to the team.”

Teenage striker Oliver McBurnie, meanwhile, has been called up again to train with Scotland under-18s later this month.

It will be a third taste of the international set-up this season for McBurnie, who made his league debut as a stoppage-time City substitute at Oldham last week.

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7:55am Fri 6 Dec 13

shoatsy says...

Legend davo! You should follow Hanson in signing a contract extension too then maybe wells will follow. Unfortunately I can see him going in jan we would be stupid to let his contact run into its last year.
Legend davo! You should follow Hanson in signing a contract extension too then maybe wells will follow. Unfortunately I can see him going in jan we would be stupid to let his contact run into its last year. shoatsy

8:33am Fri 6 Dec 13

fatbloke says...

“Nahki is only 23 and his big moves and his money will come."

Agreed.

My prediction is if Nakhi tries to jump to far to soon because he gets sucked in by the money on offer he will regret it within 2 years.

I don't blame any club (no matter how big) taking a punt on him while he is cheap because he could and I say could because for me it's far from inconclusive if he can play above league 1. The big boys can afford to take the punt but I think Nakhi should think very long and hard, these clubs don't have his well being at heart.

If he is the world class super star 'some' of our fans think he already is he will get his chance in a few years time when he has matured/improved as a player.

I believe he can earn 5k a week with us and that's more then enough for a man his age who 'could' have a very decent career.
“Nahki is only 23 and his big moves and his money will come." Agreed. My prediction is if Nakhi tries to jump to far to soon because he gets sucked in by the money on offer he will regret it within 2 years. I don't blame any club (no matter how big) taking a punt on him while he is cheap because he could and I say could because for me it's far from inconclusive if he can play above league 1. The big boys can afford to take the punt but I think Nakhi should think very long and hard, these clubs don't have his well being at heart. If he is the world class super star 'some' of our fans think he already is he will get his chance in a few years time when he has matured/improved as a player. I believe he can earn 5k a week with us and that's more then enough for a man his age who 'could' have a very decent career. fatbloke

8:54am Fri 6 Dec 13

Bingban says...

Hero Davo. I am completely fed-up with talk of selling our best player. Any ambition for progress up the leagues can be forgotten if Wells goes. What good will £2-3m in the bank be? We have the goal scorer on a contract - unless there is a stupid get-out clause, sellers will want all of that for inferior players. All this talk will unsettle the player – if he is not already eager to leave with so much speculation around his future. What is so disappointing is that the talk is coming from "fans" and a chairman. Yes I am realistic - there will be pressure from others but now is the time to keep our assets, be strong and go for our objective of successive promotions. Then lets see who wants to leave. No negative speculation and don't lose sight of where we want to be. I want the directors stating they are doing everything they can to keep the Bermudan and not wimping out - sorry Julian you got it wrong at this time but you are amongst others who should know better. Just another thought, what speculation for Davo to leave, or Hans – strengthen not dismantle.
Hero Davo. I am completely fed-up with talk of selling our best player. Any ambition for progress up the leagues can be forgotten if Wells goes. What good will £2-3m in the bank be? We have the goal scorer on a contract - unless there is a stupid get-out clause, sellers will want all of that for inferior players. All this talk will unsettle the player – if he is not already eager to leave with so much speculation around his future. What is so disappointing is that the talk is coming from "fans" and a chairman. Yes I am realistic - there will be pressure from others but now is the time to keep our assets, be strong and go for our objective of successive promotions. Then lets see who wants to leave. No negative speculation and don't lose sight of where we want to be. I want the directors stating they are doing everything they can to keep the Bermudan and not wimping out - sorry Julian you got it wrong at this time but you are amongst others who should know better. Just another thought, what speculation for Davo to leave, or Hans – strengthen not dismantle. Bingban

9:09am Fri 6 Dec 13

dannbradfc says...

Bingban wrote:
Hero Davo. I am completely fed-up with talk of selling our best player. Any ambition for progress up the leagues can be forgotten if Wells goes. What good will £2-3m in the bank be? We have the goal scorer on a contract - unless there is a stupid get-out clause, sellers will want all of that for inferior players. All this talk will unsettle the player – if he is not already eager to leave with so much speculation around his future. What is so disappointing is that the talk is coming from "fans" and a chairman. Yes I am realistic - there will be pressure from others but now is the time to keep our assets, be strong and go for our objective of successive promotions. Then lets see who wants to leave. No negative speculation and don't lose sight of where we want to be. I want the directors stating they are doing everything they can to keep the Bermudan and not wimping out - sorry Julian you got it wrong at this time but you are amongst others who should know better. Just another thought, what speculation for Davo to leave, or Hans – strengthen not dismantle.
You've got a point about rhodes on this one. He perhaps should have kept quiet. There was nothing positive really in going to press. Even setting us up and/or getting us ready for a possible departure dampens the spirits. At least he should have made a positive statement of how we would invest and find another replacement. It had an air of inevitability about it......

The fans have been involved in this sort of talk for ages now. I've seen it too often over the years where 'some' fans get all excited about the possibility of one of our players been worth money. Even teams higher up sell their best players and fans say well at least we got 10 million. How often does that money come back in to the team? You sell your assests then usually a couple of 'token' signings are made whilst the rest is used "to ease our financial concerns"........fan
s are thus as guilty of too readily talking up their biggest assest out of the club.....
[quote][p][bold]Bingban[/bold] wrote: Hero Davo. I am completely fed-up with talk of selling our best player. Any ambition for progress up the leagues can be forgotten if Wells goes. What good will £2-3m in the bank be? We have the goal scorer on a contract - unless there is a stupid get-out clause, sellers will want all of that for inferior players. All this talk will unsettle the player – if he is not already eager to leave with so much speculation around his future. What is so disappointing is that the talk is coming from "fans" and a chairman. Yes I am realistic - there will be pressure from others but now is the time to keep our assets, be strong and go for our objective of successive promotions. Then lets see who wants to leave. No negative speculation and don't lose sight of where we want to be. I want the directors stating they are doing everything they can to keep the Bermudan and not wimping out - sorry Julian you got it wrong at this time but you are amongst others who should know better. Just another thought, what speculation for Davo to leave, or Hans – strengthen not dismantle.[/p][/quote]You've got a point about rhodes on this one. He perhaps should have kept quiet. There was nothing positive really in going to press. Even setting us up and/or getting us ready for a possible departure dampens the spirits. At least he should have made a positive statement of how we would invest and find another replacement. It had an air of inevitability about it...... The fans have been involved in this sort of talk for ages now. I've seen it too often over the years where 'some' fans get all excited about the possibility of one of our players been worth money. Even teams higher up sell their best players and fans say well at least we got 10 million. How often does that money come back in to the team? You sell your assests then usually a couple of 'token' signings are made whilst the rest is used "to ease our financial concerns"........fan s are thus as guilty of too readily talking up their biggest assest out of the club..... dannbradfc

9:15am Fri 6 Dec 13

fatbloke says...

Bingban

If you were the chairmen and Nakhi refuses to sign a new contract would you let it run out?

I agree with sell at the end of the season if this is the case, however the clubs hands are tied really. He may be worth and extra 1 million (in clauses etc) in January then he will be at the end of the season, promotion would be worth far more with out a doubt.

Realistically I think promotion will be slightly out of our reach this year so for me if he isn't going sign a extension makes no odds when he goes.
Bingban If you were the chairmen and Nakhi refuses to sign a new contract would you let it run out? I agree with sell at the end of the season if this is the case, however the clubs hands are tied really. He may be worth and extra 1 million (in clauses etc) in January then he will be at the end of the season, promotion would be worth far more with out a doubt. Realistically I think promotion will be slightly out of our reach this year so for me if he isn't going sign a extension makes no odds when he goes. fatbloke

9:16am Fri 6 Dec 13

tyker7745 says...

fatbloke wrote:
“Nahki is only 23 and his big moves and his money will come."

Agreed.

My prediction is if Nakhi tries to jump to far to soon because he gets sucked in by the money on offer he will regret it within 2 years.

I don't blame any club (no matter how big) taking a punt on him while he is cheap because he could and I say could because for me it's far from inconclusive if he can play above league 1. The big boys can afford to take the punt but I think Nakhi should think very long and hard, these clubs don't have his well being at heart.

If he is the world class super star 'some' of our fans think he already is he will get his chance in a few years time when he has matured/improved as a player.

I believe he can earn 5k a week with us and that's more then enough for a man his age who 'could' have a very decent career.
are you for real: the standard wage in the championship are near to 20k per week now. 5k is not far off what he is on now
[quote][p][bold]fatbloke[/bold] wrote: “Nahki is only 23 and his big moves and his money will come." Agreed. My prediction is if Nakhi tries to jump to far to soon because he gets sucked in by the money on offer he will regret it within 2 years. I don't blame any club (no matter how big) taking a punt on him while he is cheap because he could and I say could because for me it's far from inconclusive if he can play above league 1. The big boys can afford to take the punt but I think Nakhi should think very long and hard, these clubs don't have his well being at heart. If he is the world class super star 'some' of our fans think he already is he will get his chance in a few years time when he has matured/improved as a player. I believe he can earn 5k a week with us and that's more then enough for a man his age who 'could' have a very decent career.[/p][/quote]are you for real: the standard wage in the championship are near to 20k per week now. 5k is not far off what he is on now tyker7745

9:25am Fri 6 Dec 13

fatbloke says...

tyker7745 wrote:
fatbloke wrote:
“Nahki is only 23 and his big moves and his money will come."

Agreed.

My prediction is if Nakhi tries to jump to far to soon because he gets sucked in by the money on offer he will regret it within 2 years.

I don't blame any club (no matter how big) taking a punt on him while he is cheap because he could and I say could because for me it's far from inconclusive if he can play above league 1. The big boys can afford to take the punt but I think Nakhi should think very long and hard, these clubs don't have his well being at heart.

If he is the world class super star 'some' of our fans think he already is he will get his chance in a few years time when he has matured/improved as a player.

I believe he can earn 5k a week with us and that's more then enough for a man his age who 'could' have a very decent career.
are you for real: the standard wage in the championship are near to 20k per week now. 5k is not far off what he is on now
I never mentioned what he could 'potentially' earn in the championship!!

My understanding is our top earners are around 5k to 6k. I said the money 'could' come his way in the future with a 'big club' if he is patient and what he can/is earning now with us during the period that he will mature/improve as a player.

I also said I am not convinced he is the player 'some' of our fans think he is 'yet' and hanging around a while longer could make his career 'longer term' far better then jumping now 'sucked in by the cash'.
[quote][p][bold]tyker7745[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fatbloke[/bold] wrote: “Nahki is only 23 and his big moves and his money will come." Agreed. My prediction is if Nakhi tries to jump to far to soon because he gets sucked in by the money on offer he will regret it within 2 years. I don't blame any club (no matter how big) taking a punt on him while he is cheap because he could and I say could because for me it's far from inconclusive if he can play above league 1. The big boys can afford to take the punt but I think Nakhi should think very long and hard, these clubs don't have his well being at heart. If he is the world class super star 'some' of our fans think he already is he will get his chance in a few years time when he has matured/improved as a player. I believe he can earn 5k a week with us and that's more then enough for a man his age who 'could' have a very decent career.[/p][/quote]are you for real: the standard wage in the championship are near to 20k per week now. 5k is not far off what he is on now[/p][/quote]I never mentioned what he could 'potentially' earn in the championship!! My understanding is our top earners are around 5k to 6k. I said the money 'could' come his way in the future with a 'big club' if he is patient and what he can/is earning now with us during the period that he will mature/improve as a player. I also said I am not convinced he is the player 'some' of our fans think he is 'yet' and hanging around a while longer could make his career 'longer term' far better then jumping now 'sucked in by the cash'. fatbloke

9:55am Fri 6 Dec 13

Bingban says...

fatbloke
Its December 2013, we are just outside playoff position with all to play for. Talk of selling our main playing asset is out of place at the moment .Lets just pull together in the same direction, reserve talk of selling Wells until the end of the season (if necessary) if we don't make it but even then another contract should be seen to be on the table even if there is no chance of it being signed. Positive PR is important to me and I would suggest many other fans, throwing in the towel on Wells should not be an option - its too negative. Yes the club needs to protect his value but its noise from fans and boardroom that suggest a sale not from Nahki - in public.
I cannot stop speculation from any quarter but I'd ask all influential people to realise good sides are made up with good players that are worth something to other teams. We will never be a consistently good/successful side (over a few years) if we are a selling club. Sell Wells and see the crowds dwindle
fatbloke Its December 2013, we are just outside playoff position with all to play for. Talk of selling our main playing asset is out of place at the moment .Lets just pull together in the same direction, reserve talk of selling Wells until the end of the season (if necessary) if we don't make it but even then another contract should be seen to be on the table even if there is no chance of it being signed. Positive PR is important to me and I would suggest many other fans, throwing in the towel on Wells should not be an option - its too negative. Yes the club needs to protect his value but its noise from fans and boardroom that suggest a sale not from Nahki - in public. I cannot stop speculation from any quarter but I'd ask all influential people to realise good sides are made up with good players that are worth something to other teams. We will never be a consistently good/successful side (over a few years) if we are a selling club. Sell Wells and see the crowds dwindle Bingban

10:12am Fri 6 Dec 13

minkiebantam says...

Best case is he signs a 1 year extension, with a nice pay rise and a selling claus, That gives HIM the opportunity to move on at the end of the season, IF we dont get promotion and he wants to go.
Worse case, we sell in Jan, dont re-invest and end up having a Loooong 2nd half of the season with a lot of 1-1 / 0-0 draws.
We still have a great squad and with Davo back in the new year, the back four should be that little bit more solid. But if we dont replace Wells, then i can see us struggling to score enough goals to win as many games as we would with Wells in the squad.
This has already been shown when he was injured.
CTID!!
Best case is he signs a 1 year extension, with a nice pay rise and a selling claus, That gives HIM the opportunity to move on at the end of the season, IF we dont get promotion and he wants to go. Worse case, we sell in Jan, dont re-invest and end up having a Loooong 2nd half of the season with a lot of 1-1 / 0-0 draws. We still have a great squad and with Davo back in the new year, the back four should be that little bit more solid. But if we dont replace Wells, then i can see us struggling to score enough goals to win as many games as we would with Wells in the squad. This has already been shown when he was injured. CTID!! minkiebantam

10:12am Fri 6 Dec 13

fatbloke says...

Bingban wrote:
fatbloke
Its December 2013, we are just outside playoff position with all to play for. Talk of selling our main playing asset is out of place at the moment .Lets just pull together in the same direction, reserve talk of selling Wells until the end of the season (if necessary) if we don't make it but even then another contract should be seen to be on the table even if there is no chance of it being signed. Positive PR is important to me and I would suggest many other fans, throwing in the towel on Wells should not be an option - its too negative. Yes the club needs to protect his value but its noise from fans and boardroom that suggest a sale not from Nahki - in public.
I cannot stop speculation from any quarter but I'd ask all influential people to realise good sides are made up with good players that are worth something to other teams. We will never be a consistently good/successful side (over a few years) if we are a selling club. Sell Wells and see the crowds dwindle
I don't disagree with you and I am sure there is/will be contract option for Wells.
Wells holds all the cards here and Rhodes is just been realistic, I do agree he could have ended the negative story with a positive like 'we have made him a very good offer' or told us there is no point s his agent has indicated he is going.
I've been told a deal s more or less done with QPR, so we just need to accept it is what it is and lets see what the club do with the cash
[quote][p][bold]Bingban[/bold] wrote: fatbloke Its December 2013, we are just outside playoff position with all to play for. Talk of selling our main playing asset is out of place at the moment .Lets just pull together in the same direction, reserve talk of selling Wells until the end of the season (if necessary) if we don't make it but even then another contract should be seen to be on the table even if there is no chance of it being signed. Positive PR is important to me and I would suggest many other fans, throwing in the towel on Wells should not be an option - its too negative. Yes the club needs to protect his value but its noise from fans and boardroom that suggest a sale not from Nahki - in public. I cannot stop speculation from any quarter but I'd ask all influential people to realise good sides are made up with good players that are worth something to other teams. We will never be a consistently good/successful side (over a few years) if we are a selling club. Sell Wells and see the crowds dwindle[/p][/quote]I don't disagree with you and I am sure there is/will be contract option for Wells. Wells holds all the cards here and Rhodes is just been realistic, I do agree he could have ended the negative story with a positive like 'we have made him a very good offer' or told us there is no point s his agent has indicated he is going. I've been told a deal s more or less done with QPR, so we just need to accept it is what it is and lets see what the club do with the cash fatbloke

10:19am Fri 6 Dec 13

BradfordSportsFan says...

Think the fact that clubs always pay an inflated fee for a player in January may also come into the equation.

Shame but by the sounds of it we’d be making a small loss this year due to early cup exits so the Chairman might see it as a way to tide us over for a couple of years. Way of the world in lower league football, every club is a selling club really.
Think the fact that clubs always pay an inflated fee for a player in January may also come into the equation. Shame but by the sounds of it we’d be making a small loss this year due to early cup exits so the Chairman might see it as a way to tide us over for a couple of years. Way of the world in lower league football, every club is a selling club really. BradfordSportsFan

10:21am Fri 6 Dec 13

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

The other thing is, we take the punt and keep him hoping WE are a Championship club next year, that way he is still under contract for 12mth and we are a division higher and more attractive to him and able to fund a higher wage if that is his desire.

Maybe it isn't his desire, not signing an extension isn't indicative of wanting to leave, it is just keeping his options open, we are as close to going back down a division as we are of going up. If we sink in the second half of the season and he has tied himself to us he may have put off any suitors and we would definitely use the money for 'financial security'
The other thing is, we take the punt and keep him hoping WE are a Championship club next year, that way he is still under contract for 12mth and we are a division higher and more attractive to him and able to fund a higher wage if that is his desire. Maybe it isn't his desire, not signing an extension isn't indicative of wanting to leave, it is just keeping his options open, we are as close to going back down a division as we are of going up. If we sink in the second half of the season and he has tied himself to us he may have put off any suitors and we would definitely use the money for 'financial security' Prisoner Cell Block A

10:25am Fri 6 Dec 13

Peter300 says...

fatbloke wrote:
tyker7745 wrote:
fatbloke wrote:
“Nahki is only 23 and his big moves and his money will come."

Agreed.

My prediction is if Nakhi tries to jump to far to soon because he gets sucked in by the money on offer he will regret it within 2 years.

I don't blame any club (no matter how big) taking a punt on him while he is cheap because he could and I say could because for me it's far from inconclusive if he can play above league 1. The big boys can afford to take the punt but I think Nakhi should think very long and hard, these clubs don't have his well being at heart.

If he is the world class super star 'some' of our fans think he already is he will get his chance in a few years time when he has matured/improved as a player.

I believe he can earn 5k a week with us and that's more then enough for a man his age who 'could' have a very decent career.
are you for real: the standard wage in the championship are near to 20k per week now. 5k is not far off what he is on now
I never mentioned what he could 'potentially' earn in the championship!!

My understanding is our top earners are around 5k to 6k. I said the money 'could' come his way in the future with a 'big club' if he is patient and what he can/is earning now with us during the period that he will mature/improve as a player.

I also said I am not convinced he is the player 'some' of our fans think he is 'yet' and hanging around a while longer could make his career 'longer term' far better then jumping now 'sucked in by the cash'.
It is also the question of what Nahki thinks of himself as a player. He is a very driven individual and I would think he'd jump at a chance to play at a higher level very soon and not wait. That must be factor in his being successful with City now.
[quote][p][bold]fatbloke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tyker7745[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fatbloke[/bold] wrote: “Nahki is only 23 and his big moves and his money will come." Agreed. My prediction is if Nakhi tries to jump to far to soon because he gets sucked in by the money on offer he will regret it within 2 years. I don't blame any club (no matter how big) taking a punt on him while he is cheap because he could and I say could because for me it's far from inconclusive if he can play above league 1. The big boys can afford to take the punt but I think Nakhi should think very long and hard, these clubs don't have his well being at heart. If he is the world class super star 'some' of our fans think he already is he will get his chance in a few years time when he has matured/improved as a player. I believe he can earn 5k a week with us and that's more then enough for a man his age who 'could' have a very decent career.[/p][/quote]are you for real: the standard wage in the championship are near to 20k per week now. 5k is not far off what he is on now[/p][/quote]I never mentioned what he could 'potentially' earn in the championship!! My understanding is our top earners are around 5k to 6k. I said the money 'could' come his way in the future with a 'big club' if he is patient and what he can/is earning now with us during the period that he will mature/improve as a player. I also said I am not convinced he is the player 'some' of our fans think he is 'yet' and hanging around a while longer could make his career 'longer term' far better then jumping now 'sucked in by the cash'.[/p][/quote]It is also the question of what Nahki thinks of himself as a player. He is a very driven individual and I would think he'd jump at a chance to play at a higher level very soon and not wait. That must be factor in his being successful with City now. Peter300

10:26am Fri 6 Dec 13

Bingban says...

So then what keeps the other players here?
So then what keeps the other players here? Bingban

10:32am Fri 6 Dec 13

Peter300 says...

Bingban wrote:
fatbloke
Its December 2013, we are just outside playoff position with all to play for. Talk of selling our main playing asset is out of place at the moment .Lets just pull together in the same direction, reserve talk of selling Wells until the end of the season (if necessary) if we don't make it but even then another contract should be seen to be on the table even if there is no chance of it being signed. Positive PR is important to me and I would suggest many other fans, throwing in the towel on Wells should not be an option - its too negative. Yes the club needs to protect his value but its noise from fans and boardroom that suggest a sale not from Nahki - in public.
I cannot stop speculation from any quarter but I'd ask all influential people to realise good sides are made up with good players that are worth something to other teams. We will never be a consistently good/successful side (over a few years) if we are a selling club. Sell Wells and see the crowds dwindle
You are not considering what the player wants. Have you asked him? You are as guilty as the towel chuckers with your doom loaded comments. If City receive a big offer and Nahki wants to join another club he will do. Life goes on. Try and brighten up a little. We have had the benefit of the player for two seasons which is a big plus.
[quote][p][bold]Bingban[/bold] wrote: fatbloke Its December 2013, we are just outside playoff position with all to play for. Talk of selling our main playing asset is out of place at the moment .Lets just pull together in the same direction, reserve talk of selling Wells until the end of the season (if necessary) if we don't make it but even then another contract should be seen to be on the table even if there is no chance of it being signed. Positive PR is important to me and I would suggest many other fans, throwing in the towel on Wells should not be an option - its too negative. Yes the club needs to protect his value but its noise from fans and boardroom that suggest a sale not from Nahki - in public. I cannot stop speculation from any quarter but I'd ask all influential people to realise good sides are made up with good players that are worth something to other teams. We will never be a consistently good/successful side (over a few years) if we are a selling club. Sell Wells and see the crowds dwindle[/p][/quote]You are not considering what the player wants. Have you asked him? You are as guilty as the towel chuckers with your doom loaded comments. If City receive a big offer and Nahki wants to join another club he will do. Life goes on. Try and brighten up a little. We have had the benefit of the player for two seasons which is a big plus. Peter300

11:35am Fri 6 Dec 13

Bingban says...

Peter300
'scuse me but do you understand English. Positive doesn't mean negative. That's what I am looking for from everyone with influence. I think you have missed the point but I don't want to be drawn into your petty arguments.
If we have a good team we should be wanting to keep our best players and build, defending approaches from other jealous clubs. Talk by you and others that Nahki might want to leave sends out the wrong message that he is not wanted here, that we are a selling club. So I suggest you take my comments as a committed City fan wanting to see my team progress with great players to undo all the heartache we have suffered in recent years. Talk of transfers is premature especially when he hasn't spoken in public of moving - yet.
Peter300 'scuse me but do you understand English. Positive doesn't mean negative. That's what I am looking for from everyone with influence. I think you have missed the point but I don't want to be drawn into your petty arguments. If we have a good team we should be wanting to keep our best players and build, defending approaches from other jealous clubs. Talk by you and others that Nahki might want to leave sends out the wrong message that he is not wanted here, that we are a selling club. So I suggest you take my comments as a committed City fan wanting to see my team progress with great players to undo all the heartache we have suffered in recent years. Talk of transfers is premature especially when he hasn't spoken in public of moving - yet. Bingban

11:40am Fri 6 Dec 13

realcitygent says...

lets just hope parky has got somebody lined up ,wonder where coventry stand money wish ,would be good to try force there hand for callum davison ,did they go in admin last season so they are going to need money to pay debts off also the lad from oldham looked a handfull last week ,iv only seen him once so i dont know,patrick bamford mk dons young lad but looks great player
lets just hope parky has got somebody lined up ,wonder where coventry stand money wish ,would be good to try force there hand for callum davison ,did they go in admin last season so they are going to need money to pay debts off also the lad from oldham looked a handfull last week ,iv only seen him once so i dont know,patrick bamford mk dons young lad but looks great player realcitygent

12:26pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Statler4 says...

Bingban wrote:
Peter300
'scuse me but do you understand English. Positive doesn't mean negative. That's what I am looking for from everyone with influence. I think you have missed the point but I don't want to be drawn into your petty arguments.
If we have a good team we should be wanting to keep our best players and build, defending approaches from other jealous clubs. Talk by you and others that Nahki might want to leave sends out the wrong message that he is not wanted here, that we are a selling club. So I suggest you take my comments as a committed City fan wanting to see my team progress with great players to undo all the heartache we have suffered in recent years. Talk of transfers is premature especially when he hasn't spoken in public of moving - yet.
The fact that Nahki is reluctant to sign a new contract means he is looking to play in a higher grade of football and if the right offer comes in January he will go. Talk that he might want to leave doesn't send out a message that he is not wanted here, far from it, he knows we all want him to stay but he's a professional footballer who wants to ply his trade at the highest possible level. He probably won't speak publicly about wanting to move, he doesn't need to and it's not a question of wanting away from Valley Parade since he's happy with us but the hard reality is he's a hot property and the opportunity to play in a higher grade would be difficult for him to resist. My view is that there is likely to be a bidding war for him in January and the £3million being bandied around is just the starting point
[quote][p][bold]Bingban[/bold] wrote: Peter300 'scuse me but do you understand English. Positive doesn't mean negative. That's what I am looking for from everyone with influence. I think you have missed the point but I don't want to be drawn into your petty arguments. If we have a good team we should be wanting to keep our best players and build, defending approaches from other jealous clubs. Talk by you and others that Nahki might want to leave sends out the wrong message that he is not wanted here, that we are a selling club. So I suggest you take my comments as a committed City fan wanting to see my team progress with great players to undo all the heartache we have suffered in recent years. Talk of transfers is premature especially when he hasn't spoken in public of moving - yet.[/p][/quote]The fact that Nahki is reluctant to sign a new contract means he is looking to play in a higher grade of football and if the right offer comes in January he will go. Talk that he might want to leave doesn't send out a message that he is not wanted here, far from it, he knows we all want him to stay but he's a professional footballer who wants to ply his trade at the highest possible level. He probably won't speak publicly about wanting to move, he doesn't need to and it's not a question of wanting away from Valley Parade since he's happy with us but the hard reality is he's a hot property and the opportunity to play in a higher grade would be difficult for him to resist. My view is that there is likely to be a bidding war for him in January and the £3million being bandied around is just the starting point Statler4

12:49pm Fri 6 Dec 13

nowt fresh says...

realcitygent wrote:
lets just hope parky has got somebody lined up ,wonder where coventry stand money wish ,would be good to try force there hand for callum davison ,did they go in admin last season so they are going to need money to pay debts off also the lad from oldham looked a handfull last week ,iv only seen him once so i dont know,patrick bamford mk dons young lad but looks great player
Several lads from Oldham looked a handfull last Sunday realcitygent, the lad Bamford is a Chelsea player on loan at MK Dons, Chelsea paid Notts Forrest £1.5 mill for him and he's on a 5 year contract, don't know if true but rumour has it Nahki could be on his way to QPR for a figure around £3 million but stay untill the end of the season with us?, now that would be intersting money to spend on team strengthening Nahki still playing for us,play offsa distinct possibility.
[quote][p][bold]realcitygent[/bold] wrote: lets just hope parky has got somebody lined up ,wonder where coventry stand money wish ,would be good to try force there hand for callum davison ,did they go in admin last season so they are going to need money to pay debts off also the lad from oldham looked a handfull last week ,iv only seen him once so i dont know,patrick bamford mk dons young lad but looks great player[/p][/quote]Several lads from Oldham looked a handfull last Sunday realcitygent, the lad Bamford is a Chelsea player on loan at MK Dons, Chelsea paid Notts Forrest £1.5 mill for him and he's on a 5 year contract, don't know if true but rumour has it Nahki could be on his way to QPR for a figure around £3 million but stay untill the end of the season with us?, now that would be intersting money to spend on team strengthening Nahki still playing for us,play offsa distinct possibility. nowt fresh

12:53pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Prisoner Cell Block A says...

realcitygent wrote:
lets just hope parky has got somebody lined up ,wonder where coventry stand money wish ,would be good to try force there hand for callum davison ,did they go in admin last season so they are going to need money to pay debts off also the lad from oldham looked a handfull last week ,iv only seen him once so i dont know,patrick bamford mk dons young lad but looks great player
Davison would cost as much as Nahki, we could possibly persuade Cov to sell but he like Wells may more than likely be looking at moving up the league faster than promotion can take him.

Bamford is a Chelsea player and highly rated, figures already quotes above £5m for his value.
[quote][p][bold]realcitygent[/bold] wrote: lets just hope parky has got somebody lined up ,wonder where coventry stand money wish ,would be good to try force there hand for callum davison ,did they go in admin last season so they are going to need money to pay debts off also the lad from oldham looked a handfull last week ,iv only seen him once so i dont know,patrick bamford mk dons young lad but looks great player[/p][/quote]Davison would cost as much as Nahki, we could possibly persuade Cov to sell but he like Wells may more than likely be looking at moving up the league faster than promotion can take him. Bamford is a Chelsea player and highly rated, figures already quotes above £5m for his value. Prisoner Cell Block A

1:08pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Michael Clayton says...

It is tempting to apply the emotional argument. However, too much badgering can become over-whelming and cause a person to walk away from a situation. I remember all the over-bearing hysteria in the build-up to Parky's new contract.

Might it just be the case that Rhodes is simply trying to not to apply too much pressure to Wells? Rhodes has simply stated possible outcomes. No-one in their right mind will want Wells to leave but that is the reality.
It is tempting to apply the emotional argument. However, too much badgering can become over-whelming and cause a person to walk away from a situation. I remember all the over-bearing hysteria in the build-up to Parky's new contract. Might it just be the case that Rhodes is simply trying to not to apply too much pressure to Wells? Rhodes has simply stated possible outcomes. No-one in their right mind will want Wells to leave but that is the reality. Michael Clayton

1:53pm Fri 6 Dec 13

realcitygent says...

realcitygent wrote:
lets just hope parky has got somebody lined up ,wonder where coventry stand money wish ,would be good to try force there hand for callum davison ,did they go in admin last season so they are going to need money to pay debts off also the lad from oldham looked a handfull last week ,iv only seen him once so i dont know,patrick bamford mk dons young lad but looks great player
sorry its not davison its callum wilson ,
[quote][p][bold]realcitygent[/bold] wrote: lets just hope parky has got somebody lined up ,wonder where coventry stand money wish ,would be good to try force there hand for callum davison ,did they go in admin last season so they are going to need money to pay debts off also the lad from oldham looked a handfull last week ,iv only seen him once so i dont know,patrick bamford mk dons young lad but looks great player[/p][/quote]sorry its not davison its callum wilson , realcitygent

2:09pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Bingban says...

Statler4 wrote:
Bingban wrote:
Peter300
'scuse me but do you understand English. Positive doesn't mean negative. That's what I am looking for from everyone with influence. I think you have missed the point but I don't want to be drawn into your petty arguments.
If we have a good team we should be wanting to keep our best players and build, defending approaches from other jealous clubs. Talk by you and others that Nahki might want to leave sends out the wrong message that he is not wanted here, that we are a selling club. So I suggest you take my comments as a committed City fan wanting to see my team progress with great players to undo all the heartache we have suffered in recent years. Talk of transfers is premature especially when he hasn't spoken in public of moving - yet.
The fact that Nahki is reluctant to sign a new contract means he is looking to play in a higher grade of football and if the right offer comes in January he will go. Talk that he might want to leave doesn't send out a message that he is not wanted here, far from it, he knows we all want him to stay but he's a professional footballer who wants to ply his trade at the highest possible level. He probably won't speak publicly about wanting to move, he doesn't need to and it's not a question of wanting away from Valley Parade since he's happy with us but the hard reality is he's a hot property and the opportunity to play in a higher grade would be difficult for him to resist. My view is that there is likely to be a bidding war for him in January and the £3million being bandied around is just the starting point
Go to the top of the page Davo is stating Wells can achieve with us. OK some of you are wanting to ensure the club cashes in and being through administration twice means that the club is money aware and rightly so. But the buoyant mood at VP is based on success and expectation. Davo is right to point out “I feel that if Bradford want to keep moving forward, you need to keep your best players and Nahki is certainly one of them." Whats wrong with that sentiment and why do other fans think it right for us to talk transfer - I don't. Reality checks might come if we don't get to the Championship - but not now and a reality check at the end of the season might just find Nahki liking being loved here. I am not aware of a refusal to sign an extension but has there been serious discussions/offer? I doubt that Davo wouldn't make these comments if he was aware of a refusal. And just wonder whether Julian Rhodes made those comments to get a real feel for Nahki's support or whether he dare sell and cash-in. I say keep him at least till the end of the season and review progress/potential then.
[quote][p][bold]Statler4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bingban[/bold] wrote: Peter300 'scuse me but do you understand English. Positive doesn't mean negative. That's what I am looking for from everyone with influence. I think you have missed the point but I don't want to be drawn into your petty arguments. If we have a good team we should be wanting to keep our best players and build, defending approaches from other jealous clubs. Talk by you and others that Nahki might want to leave sends out the wrong message that he is not wanted here, that we are a selling club. So I suggest you take my comments as a committed City fan wanting to see my team progress with great players to undo all the heartache we have suffered in recent years. Talk of transfers is premature especially when he hasn't spoken in public of moving - yet.[/p][/quote]The fact that Nahki is reluctant to sign a new contract means he is looking to play in a higher grade of football and if the right offer comes in January he will go. Talk that he might want to leave doesn't send out a message that he is not wanted here, far from it, he knows we all want him to stay but he's a professional footballer who wants to ply his trade at the highest possible level. He probably won't speak publicly about wanting to move, he doesn't need to and it's not a question of wanting away from Valley Parade since he's happy with us but the hard reality is he's a hot property and the opportunity to play in a higher grade would be difficult for him to resist. My view is that there is likely to be a bidding war for him in January and the £3million being bandied around is just the starting point[/p][/quote]Go to the top of the page Davo is stating Wells can achieve with us. OK some of you are wanting to ensure the club cashes in and being through administration twice means that the club is money aware and rightly so. But the buoyant mood at VP is based on success and expectation. Davo is right to point out “I feel that if Bradford want to keep moving forward, you need to keep your best players and Nahki is certainly one of them." Whats wrong with that sentiment and why do other fans think it right for us to talk transfer - I don't. Reality checks might come if we don't get to the Championship - but not now and a reality check at the end of the season might just find Nahki liking being loved here. I am not aware of a refusal to sign an extension but has there been serious discussions/offer? I doubt that Davo wouldn't make these comments if he was aware of a refusal. And just wonder whether Julian Rhodes made those comments to get a real feel for Nahki's support or whether he dare sell and cash-in. I say keep him at least till the end of the season and review progress/potential then. Bingban

2:32pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Statler4 says...

Bingban wrote:
Statler4 wrote:
Bingban wrote:
Peter300
'scuse me but do you understand English. Positive doesn't mean negative. That's what I am looking for from everyone with influence. I think you have missed the point but I don't want to be drawn into your petty arguments.
If we have a good team we should be wanting to keep our best players and build, defending approaches from other jealous clubs. Talk by you and others that Nahki might want to leave sends out the wrong message that he is not wanted here, that we are a selling club. So I suggest you take my comments as a committed City fan wanting to see my team progress with great players to undo all the heartache we have suffered in recent years. Talk of transfers is premature especially when he hasn't spoken in public of moving - yet.
The fact that Nahki is reluctant to sign a new contract means he is looking to play in a higher grade of football and if the right offer comes in January he will go. Talk that he might want to leave doesn't send out a message that he is not wanted here, far from it, he knows we all want him to stay but he's a professional footballer who wants to ply his trade at the highest possible level. He probably won't speak publicly about wanting to move, he doesn't need to and it's not a question of wanting away from Valley Parade since he's happy with us but the hard reality is he's a hot property and the opportunity to play in a higher grade would be difficult for him to resist. My view is that there is likely to be a bidding war for him in January and the £3million being bandied around is just the starting point
Go to the top of the page Davo is stating Wells can achieve with us. OK some of you are wanting to ensure the club cashes in and being through administration twice means that the club is money aware and rightly so. But the buoyant mood at VP is based on success and expectation. Davo is right to point out “I feel that if Bradford want to keep moving forward, you need to keep your best players and Nahki is certainly one of them." Whats wrong with that sentiment and why do other fans think it right for us to talk transfer - I don't. Reality checks might come if we don't get to the Championship - but not now and a reality check at the end of the season might just find Nahki liking being loved here. I am not aware of a refusal to sign an extension but has there been serious discussions/offer? I doubt that Davo wouldn't make these comments if he was aware of a refusal. And just wonder whether Julian Rhodes made those comments to get a real feel for Nahki's support or whether he dare sell and cash-in. I say keep him at least till the end of the season and review progress/potential then.
There hasn't been a refusal but there is a reluctance and he's clearly keeping his options open. Liking being loved here won't come into it, he's a professional footballer plying his trade, paid to play and score goals. If he gets the offer of a better job with more money in a higher league he will take it and if that comes in January he will go then and the club will receive appropriate compensation for the loss of his services. There will be people who advise caution like Andrew Davies and John Hendrie who can point to the mistakes they both made but in the end Nahki's personal ambition will win out regardless of the possible pitfalls. It's sad for us but that's the reality of professional football.
[quote][p][bold]Bingban[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Statler4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bingban[/bold] wrote: Peter300 'scuse me but do you understand English. Positive doesn't mean negative. That's what I am looking for from everyone with influence. I think you have missed the point but I don't want to be drawn into your petty arguments. If we have a good team we should be wanting to keep our best players and build, defending approaches from other jealous clubs. Talk by you and others that Nahki might want to leave sends out the wrong message that he is not wanted here, that we are a selling club. So I suggest you take my comments as a committed City fan wanting to see my team progress with great players to undo all the heartache we have suffered in recent years. Talk of transfers is premature especially when he hasn't spoken in public of moving - yet.[/p][/quote]The fact that Nahki is reluctant to sign a new contract means he is looking to play in a higher grade of football and if the right offer comes in January he will go. Talk that he might want to leave doesn't send out a message that he is not wanted here, far from it, he knows we all want him to stay but he's a professional footballer who wants to ply his trade at the highest possible level. He probably won't speak publicly about wanting to move, he doesn't need to and it's not a question of wanting away from Valley Parade since he's happy with us but the hard reality is he's a hot property and the opportunity to play in a higher grade would be difficult for him to resist. My view is that there is likely to be a bidding war for him in January and the £3million being bandied around is just the starting point[/p][/quote]Go to the top of the page Davo is stating Wells can achieve with us. OK some of you are wanting to ensure the club cashes in and being through administration twice means that the club is money aware and rightly so. But the buoyant mood at VP is based on success and expectation. Davo is right to point out “I feel that if Bradford want to keep moving forward, you need to keep your best players and Nahki is certainly one of them." Whats wrong with that sentiment and why do other fans think it right for us to talk transfer - I don't. Reality checks might come if we don't get to the Championship - but not now and a reality check at the end of the season might just find Nahki liking being loved here. I am not aware of a refusal to sign an extension but has there been serious discussions/offer? I doubt that Davo wouldn't make these comments if he was aware of a refusal. And just wonder whether Julian Rhodes made those comments to get a real feel for Nahki's support or whether he dare sell and cash-in. I say keep him at least till the end of the season and review progress/potential then.[/p][/quote]There hasn't been a refusal but there is a reluctance and he's clearly keeping his options open. Liking being loved here won't come into it, he's a professional footballer plying his trade, paid to play and score goals. If he gets the offer of a better job with more money in a higher league he will take it and if that comes in January he will go then and the club will receive appropriate compensation for the loss of his services. There will be people who advise caution like Andrew Davies and John Hendrie who can point to the mistakes they both made but in the end Nahki's personal ambition will win out regardless of the possible pitfalls. It's sad for us but that's the reality of professional football. Statler4

3:08pm Fri 6 Dec 13

nowt fresh says...

Have the board approached Nahki with a substantial wage increase and basically dangled the carrot with possible get out clauses, an extension of his contract is surely a win win situation for both parties, Nahki increases his wages (and has a buy out clause) the club have Nahki on a longer contract so have more bargaining power with the potencial buying club ?.
Have the board approached Nahki with a substantial wage increase and basically dangled the carrot with possible get out clauses, an extension of his contract is surely a win win situation for both parties, Nahki increases his wages (and has a buy out clause) the club have Nahki on a longer contract so have more bargaining power with the potencial buying club ?. nowt fresh

4:07pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Bingban says...

Statler4
I understand the situation but banging on that he could break his contract at his behest might just be wide of the mark. The manager/directors will be the judge of that situation and they stand and fall by their decisions - not you. My purpose is to say that Nahki Wells is wanted here, Davo and others say he can realise his ambitions here but I despair at "fans" saying he can go whenever - that is a small club outlook but not mine, even at over retirement age I have ambitions of seeing City rubbing shoulders with other big clubs. Allowing best players to leave isn't building - it will just continue the yo yo between 3rd and 4th division - do you want that?
Statler4 I understand the situation but banging on that he could break his contract at his behest might just be wide of the mark. The manager/directors will be the judge of that situation and they stand and fall by their decisions - not you. My purpose is to say that Nahki Wells is wanted here, Davo and others say he can realise his ambitions here but I despair at "fans" saying he can go whenever - that is a small club outlook but not mine, even at over retirement age I have ambitions of seeing City rubbing shoulders with other big clubs. Allowing best players to leave isn't building - it will just continue the yo yo between 3rd and 4th division - do you want that? Bingban

4:28pm Fri 6 Dec 13

bcfc1903 says...

Can see him signing a year extension in January with a substantial increase in wages with the proviso that if BCFC don't get promoted this season he'll get the chance to go in the summer. He's loved at BCFC so there is an outside chance he may give it til the following January if we don't make it this season.
Can see him signing a year extension in January with a substantial increase in wages with the proviso that if BCFC don't get promoted this season he'll get the chance to go in the summer. He's loved at BCFC so there is an outside chance he may give it til the following January if we don't make it this season. bcfc1903

4:47pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Statler4 says...

Bingban wrote:
Statler4
I understand the situation but banging on that he could break his contract at his behest might just be wide of the mark. The manager/directors will be the judge of that situation and they stand and fall by their decisions - not you. My purpose is to say that Nahki Wells is wanted here, Davo and others say he can realise his ambitions here but I despair at "fans" saying he can go whenever - that is a small club outlook but not mine, even at over retirement age I have ambitions of seeing City rubbing shoulders with other big clubs. Allowing best players to leave isn't building - it will just continue the yo yo between 3rd and 4th division - do you want that?
With respect, it's not a question of breaking his contract. He's a player who is sought after and coveted by many clubs in higher leagues. No-one, as far as I'm aware, is saying he can go whenever, no-one wants him to go. The reality, however, is that there are going to be bids for him in January from clubs who can offer a better standard of football, alongside better players for considerably more money. The management have a stark choice, keep him on his current contract and refuse to release him whatever the fee offered and watch him walk away for nothing at the end of his contract or sell him for the best fee offered in January at the end of a bidding war. That is what freedom of contract means. The closer he gets to the end of his contract, the less will be offered and the management will be in the position of having to take less and less the longer it goes on. I don't want Nahki to go but we have to be realistic. I think he will go in January for several million and he's not going to sign another contract to tie him to Valley Parade long term. I too have ambitions to see us back rubbing shoulders with other big clubs but the reality is losing this one extremely talented player does not mean we are going to be yo yoing between the 3rd and 4th dvisions. We'll find a replacement for Nahki if and when he goes and carry on building, he's not irreplaceable. Suppose he got a serious injury and could never play again - are you suggesting that would mean Bradford City would be forever doomed in some kind Twilight Zone?
[quote][p][bold]Bingban[/bold] wrote: Statler4 I understand the situation but banging on that he could break his contract at his behest might just be wide of the mark. The manager/directors will be the judge of that situation and they stand and fall by their decisions - not you. My purpose is to say that Nahki Wells is wanted here, Davo and others say he can realise his ambitions here but I despair at "fans" saying he can go whenever - that is a small club outlook but not mine, even at over retirement age I have ambitions of seeing City rubbing shoulders with other big clubs. Allowing best players to leave isn't building - it will just continue the yo yo between 3rd and 4th division - do you want that?[/p][/quote]With respect, it's not a question of breaking his contract. He's a player who is sought after and coveted by many clubs in higher leagues. No-one, as far as I'm aware, is saying he can go whenever, no-one wants him to go. The reality, however, is that there are going to be bids for him in January from clubs who can offer a better standard of football, alongside better players for considerably more money. The management have a stark choice, keep him on his current contract and refuse to release him whatever the fee offered and watch him walk away for nothing at the end of his contract or sell him for the best fee offered in January at the end of a bidding war. That is what freedom of contract means. The closer he gets to the end of his contract, the less will be offered and the management will be in the position of having to take less and less the longer it goes on. I don't want Nahki to go but we have to be realistic. I think he will go in January for several million and he's not going to sign another contract to tie him to Valley Parade long term. I too have ambitions to see us back rubbing shoulders with other big clubs but the reality is losing this one extremely talented player does not mean we are going to be yo yoing between the 3rd and 4th dvisions. We'll find a replacement for Nahki if and when he goes and carry on building, he's not irreplaceable. Suppose he got a serious injury and could never play again - are you suggesting that would mean Bradford City would be forever doomed in some kind Twilight Zone? Statler4

5:14pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Bantambhoy says...

A couple of years ago Nahki was virtually on the football scrapheap. He was given the opportunity by BCFC to resurrect his career and has done so in tandem with Phil Parkinson and hcis backroom team and James Hanson. Wells and Hanson have blossomed together with other younger players like Darby, McHugh and Meredith. There is no guarantee that he can reproduce his form elsewhere. Anybody see the 'Class of '92'? Not in the same league, I know, but .........
I would hope John Hendrie et al are steering him towards the 1 year extention as at the moment it's still 'work in progress'.
A couple of years ago Nahki was virtually on the football scrapheap. He was given the opportunity by BCFC to resurrect his career and has done so in tandem with Phil Parkinson and hcis backroom team and James Hanson. Wells and Hanson have blossomed together with other younger players like Darby, McHugh and Meredith. There is no guarantee that he can reproduce his form elsewhere. Anybody see the 'Class of '92'? Not in the same league, I know, but ......... I would hope John Hendrie et al are steering him towards the 1 year extention as at the moment it's still 'work in progress'. Bantambhoy

7:51pm Fri 6 Dec 13

bcfc1903 says...

A year extension to his contract would.. unless we got promoted only probably be til the end of this season........ he is loved by the fans so given top earner status in the squad it's possible he would stay til the following January then it would all depend where we were in the league. It's by no means a forgone conclusion that he'll leave next month, there will be plenty going on trying to get him to extend for an extra year. Let's hope it happens.
A year extension to his contract would.. unless we got promoted only probably be til the end of this season........ he is loved by the fans so given top earner status in the squad it's possible he would stay til the following January then it would all depend where we were in the league. It's by no means a forgone conclusion that he'll leave next month, there will be plenty going on trying to get him to extend for an extra year. Let's hope it happens. bcfc1903

8:05pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Bingban says...

Statler4
It is a case of breaking a contract as it runs for another 18 months. And you could have fooled me that "No-one wants him to go" There are far too many saying - its ok "its potentially a big fee", "I'm being realistic" etc Reality may disappoint me in the end (and I respect your right to voice your opinion) but I wish people would use more care in saying its alright to sell our most valuable playing asset. And then what happens when X United come in for Hanson and/or Davies, Darby or Meredith? How much is a replacement going to cost with millions in the bank. Just remember how the Hendrie/McCall money was frittered away. Any replacement has to fit into the squad. Bradford City will exist long after Nahki has moved on but what sort of Bradford City do you want - in reality
Statler4 It is a case of breaking a contract as it runs for another 18 months. And you could have fooled me that "No-one wants him to go" There are far too many saying - its ok "its potentially a big fee", "I'm being realistic" etc Reality may disappoint me in the end (and I respect your right to voice your opinion) but I wish people would use more care in saying its alright to sell our most valuable playing asset. And then what happens when X United come in for Hanson and/or Davies, Darby or Meredith? How much is a replacement going to cost with millions in the bank. Just remember how the Hendrie/McCall money was frittered away. Any replacement has to fit into the squad. Bradford City will exist long after Nahki has moved on but what sort of Bradford City do you want - in reality Bingban

8:34pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Statler4 says...

Bingban wrote:
Statler4
It is a case of breaking a contract as it runs for another 18 months. And you could have fooled me that "No-one wants him to go" There are far too many saying - its ok "its potentially a big fee", "I'm being realistic" etc Reality may disappoint me in the end (and I respect your right to voice your opinion) but I wish people would use more care in saying its alright to sell our most valuable playing asset. And then what happens when X United come in for Hanson and/or Davies, Darby or Meredith? How much is a replacement going to cost with millions in the bank. Just remember how the Hendrie/McCall money was frittered away. Any replacement has to fit into the squad. Bradford City will exist long after Nahki has moved on but what sort of Bradford City do you want - in reality
It's not a case of breaking a contract because we would be receiving compensation in the form of a fee. If the club don't sell him during his contracted period, he can walk away for nothing at the end. We couldn't hold him unless he decided to sign a new contract and the general view is he's reluctant to do that. If someone came in for the other players you mention each offer would have to be judged on its merits and assessed accordingly. I remember perfectly well how the McCall/Hendrie money was frittered away by a different board and management team. I'm fully aware that any replacement has to fit into the squad but if Nahki decides to go that's a problem that has to be faced and dealt with as it has to be for any club that sells a key player. The Bradford City I want to see is the best they can possibly be but the fact remains Julian Rhodes has stated that he doesn't think we can hold onto Nahki and he will leave. He doesn't want that, you don't want it and neither do I and most others agree but here's no point trying to keep a player who wants to move on to bigger things and his reluctance to commit himself to a new contract suggests this is the case. I would be deeply saddened to see him go, I'm someone who still hasn't got over us giving Bruce Bannister away to Bristol Rovers and letting Peter Middleton go to Plymouth!
[quote][p][bold]Bingban[/bold] wrote: Statler4 It is a case of breaking a contract as it runs for another 18 months. And you could have fooled me that "No-one wants him to go" There are far too many saying - its ok "its potentially a big fee", "I'm being realistic" etc Reality may disappoint me in the end (and I respect your right to voice your opinion) but I wish people would use more care in saying its alright to sell our most valuable playing asset. And then what happens when X United come in for Hanson and/or Davies, Darby or Meredith? How much is a replacement going to cost with millions in the bank. Just remember how the Hendrie/McCall money was frittered away. Any replacement has to fit into the squad. Bradford City will exist long after Nahki has moved on but what sort of Bradford City do you want - in reality[/p][/quote]It's not a case of breaking a contract because we would be receiving compensation in the form of a fee. If the club don't sell him during his contracted period, he can walk away for nothing at the end. We couldn't hold him unless he decided to sign a new contract and the general view is he's reluctant to do that. If someone came in for the other players you mention each offer would have to be judged on its merits and assessed accordingly. I remember perfectly well how the McCall/Hendrie money was frittered away by a different board and management team. I'm fully aware that any replacement has to fit into the squad but if Nahki decides to go that's a problem that has to be faced and dealt with as it has to be for any club that sells a key player. The Bradford City I want to see is the best they can possibly be but the fact remains Julian Rhodes has stated that he doesn't think we can hold onto Nahki and he will leave. He doesn't want that, you don't want it and neither do I and most others agree but here's no point trying to keep a player who wants to move on to bigger things and his reluctance to commit himself to a new contract suggests this is the case. I would be deeply saddened to see him go, I'm someone who still hasn't got over us giving Bruce Bannister away to Bristol Rovers and letting Peter Middleton go to Plymouth! Statler4

10:53pm Fri 6 Dec 13

jamiejoe says...

fatbloke wrote:
Bingban wrote: fatbloke Its December 2013, we are just outside playoff position with all to play for. Talk of selling our main playing asset is out of place at the moment .Lets just pull together in the same direction, reserve talk of selling Wells until the end of the season (if necessary) if we don't make it but even then another contract should be seen to be on the table even if there is no chance of it being signed. Positive PR is important to me and I would suggest many other fans, throwing in the towel on Wells should not be an option - its too negative. Yes the club needs to protect his value but its noise from fans and boardroom that suggest a sale not from Nahki - in public. I cannot stop speculation from any quarter but I'd ask all influential people to realise good sides are made up with good players that are worth something to other teams. We will never be a consistently good/successful side (over a few years) if we are a selling club. Sell Wells and see the crowds dwindle
I don't disagree with you and I am sure there is/will be contract option for Wells. Wells holds all the cards here and Rhodes is just been realistic, I do agree he could have ended the negative story with a positive like 'we have made him a very good offer' or told us there is no point s his agent has indicated he is going. I've been told a deal s more or less done with QPR, so we just need to accept it is what it is and lets see what the club do with the cash
Fatbloke - you talk sense and whilst i agree with Bingbans reasoning too ...

what i would like to know - is how do you know this?

is it rumour or closer to fact?

i know that you go to the training ground - so please say a little bit more. If you know he is heading to QPR - will it be above £2.5 million or closer to £4 million???

thanks
[quote][p][bold]fatbloke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bingban[/bold] wrote: fatbloke Its December 2013, we are just outside playoff position with all to play for. Talk of selling our main playing asset is out of place at the moment .Lets just pull together in the same direction, reserve talk of selling Wells until the end of the season (if necessary) if we don't make it but even then another contract should be seen to be on the table even if there is no chance of it being signed. Positive PR is important to me and I would suggest many other fans, throwing in the towel on Wells should not be an option - its too negative. Yes the club needs to protect his value but its noise from fans and boardroom that suggest a sale not from Nahki - in public. I cannot stop speculation from any quarter but I'd ask all influential people to realise good sides are made up with good players that are worth something to other teams. We will never be a consistently good/successful side (over a few years) if we are a selling club. Sell Wells and see the crowds dwindle[/p][/quote]I don't disagree with you and I am sure there is/will be contract option for Wells. Wells holds all the cards here and Rhodes is just been realistic, I do agree he could have ended the negative story with a positive like 'we have made him a very good offer' or told us there is no point s his agent has indicated he is going. I've been told a deal s more or less done with QPR, so we just need to accept it is what it is and lets see what the club do with the cash[/p][/quote]Fatbloke - you talk sense and whilst i agree with Bingbans reasoning too ... what i would like to know - is how do you know this? is it rumour or closer to fact? i know that you go to the training ground - so please say a little bit more. If you know he is heading to QPR - will it be above £2.5 million or closer to £4 million??? thanks jamiejoe

10:56pm Fri 6 Dec 13

jamiejoe says...

Peter300 wrote:
Bingban wrote: fatbloke Its December 2013, we are just outside playoff position with all to play for. Talk of selling our main playing asset is out of place at the moment .Lets just pull together in the same direction, reserve talk of selling Wells until the end of the season (if necessary) if we don't make it but even then another contract should be seen to be on the table even if there is no chance of it being signed. Positive PR is important to me and I would suggest many other fans, throwing in the towel on Wells should not be an option - its too negative. Yes the club needs to protect his value but its noise from fans and boardroom that suggest a sale not from Nahki - in public. I cannot stop speculation from any quarter but I'd ask all influential people to realise good sides are made up with good players that are worth something to other teams. We will never be a consistently good/successful side (over a few years) if we are a selling club. Sell Wells and see the crowds dwindle
You are not considering what the player wants. Have you asked him? You are as guilty as the towel chuckers with your doom loaded comments. If City receive a big offer and Nahki wants to join another club he will do. Life goes on. Try and brighten up a little. We have had the benefit of the player for two seasons which is a big plus.
Peter300 - you are always telling people to brighten up / cheer up / not bash our players etc ...

do you know how your messages read? like a black cloud.
[quote][p][bold]Peter300[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bingban[/bold] wrote: fatbloke Its December 2013, we are just outside playoff position with all to play for. Talk of selling our main playing asset is out of place at the moment .Lets just pull together in the same direction, reserve talk of selling Wells until the end of the season (if necessary) if we don't make it but even then another contract should be seen to be on the table even if there is no chance of it being signed. Positive PR is important to me and I would suggest many other fans, throwing in the towel on Wells should not be an option - its too negative. Yes the club needs to protect his value but its noise from fans and boardroom that suggest a sale not from Nahki - in public. I cannot stop speculation from any quarter but I'd ask all influential people to realise good sides are made up with good players that are worth something to other teams. We will never be a consistently good/successful side (over a few years) if we are a selling club. Sell Wells and see the crowds dwindle[/p][/quote]You are not considering what the player wants. Have you asked him? You are as guilty as the towel chuckers with your doom loaded comments. If City receive a big offer and Nahki wants to join another club he will do. Life goes on. Try and brighten up a little. We have had the benefit of the player for two seasons which is a big plus.[/p][/quote]Peter300 - you are always telling people to brighten up / cheer up / not bash our players etc ... do you know how your messages read? like a black cloud. jamiejoe

10:59pm Fri 6 Dec 13

jamiejoe says...

realcitygent wrote:
lets just hope parky has got somebody lined up ,wonder where coventry stand money wish ,would be good to try force there hand for callum davison ,did they go in admin last season so they are going to need money to pay debts off also the lad from oldham looked a handfull last week ,iv only seen him once so i dont know,patrick bamford mk dons young lad but looks great player
Patrick Bamford is unlikely to go from Chelsea to Bradford City at this point in time. I think he looking at the Premier league and national teams!!

when you have a gem - and you help to polish them up - it is better to wear them with pride rather than cash them in ... esp. if it is at the pawn brokers!

not often that we find them. Hendrie, McCalll, Ellis etc were the last bunch of talented youngsters

and i guess Blake, Mills, Lawrence and Co.
[quote][p][bold]realcitygent[/bold] wrote: lets just hope parky has got somebody lined up ,wonder where coventry stand money wish ,would be good to try force there hand for callum davison ,did they go in admin last season so they are going to need money to pay debts off also the lad from oldham looked a handfull last week ,iv only seen him once so i dont know,patrick bamford mk dons young lad but looks great player[/p][/quote]Patrick Bamford is unlikely to go from Chelsea to Bradford City at this point in time. I think he looking at the Premier league and national teams!! when you have a gem - and you help to polish them up - it is better to wear them with pride rather than cash them in ... esp. if it is at the pawn brokers! not often that we find them. Hendrie, McCalll, Ellis etc were the last bunch of talented youngsters and i guess Blake, Mills, Lawrence and Co. jamiejoe

11:25pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Bingban says...

Statler4
At least we have some (substantial) common ground but as my final comment I would just question this notion that he doesn't want to stay/is reluctant to sign another contract. I haven't seen any comment from him on that score. Wasn't there similar speculation and surprise when he signed his current contract? Lots of pressure from Bermuda to move on to a bigger club. Do you know the trust/respect and the relationship between Parky and Nahki - Davo hints at a strong bond. That might just influence whether he wants to move on. Not fans with pound signs in their eyes
OK so you and others don't want him to go so why say he will go in January - you know that you can have self fulfilling predictions - a prediction that happens because you predict it.
I shall be urging him on next Saturday and I hope we all have the opportunity to see him for many months/years to come on our way to the championship and possibly beyond.
Statler4 At least we have some (substantial) common ground but as my final comment I would just question this notion that he doesn't want to stay/is reluctant to sign another contract. I haven't seen any comment from him on that score. Wasn't there similar speculation and surprise when he signed his current contract? Lots of pressure from Bermuda to move on to a bigger club. Do you know the trust/respect and the relationship between Parky and Nahki - Davo hints at a strong bond. That might just influence whether he wants to move on. Not fans with pound signs in their eyes OK so you and others don't want him to go so why say he will go in January - you know that you can have self fulfilling predictions - a prediction that happens because you predict it. I shall be urging him on next Saturday and I hope we all have the opportunity to see him for many months/years to come on our way to the championship and possibly beyond. Bingban

1:04am Sat 7 Dec 13

fatbloke says...

jamiejoe

Thanks, but I can not say who told me, sorry. I would potentially lose any further info. I can confirm it is a good source who did tell me and was prior to Rhodes talking to the T&A. This person could not say it is a done deal neither probably because 'it wasn't' at the time.

The facts are it is a good source who has no reason to lie and I have no reason to think they would say it for fun. Sorry I can't say anymore.
jamiejoe Thanks, but I can not say who told me, sorry. I would potentially lose any further info. I can confirm it is a good source who did tell me and was prior to Rhodes talking to the T&A. This person could not say it is a done deal neither probably because 'it wasn't' at the time. The facts are it is a good source who has no reason to lie and I have no reason to think they would say it for fun. Sorry I can't say anymore. fatbloke

1:17am Sat 7 Dec 13

fatbloke says...

nowt fresh wrote:
Have the board approached Nahki with a substantial wage increase and basically dangled the carrot with possible get out clauses, an extension of his contract is surely a win win situation for both parties, Nahki increases his wages (and has a buy out clause) the club have Nahki on a longer contract so have more bargaining power with the potencial buying club ?.
........and Nakhi's agent looses more bargaining per when negotiating wages and his slice because potential buyers have to pay more for him!!??

This is about what is best for Nakhi Wells, not Bradford City. It's like it or lump it for us I am afraid.
[quote][p][bold]nowt fresh[/bold] wrote: Have the board approached Nahki with a substantial wage increase and basically dangled the carrot with possible get out clauses, an extension of his contract is surely a win win situation for both parties, Nahki increases his wages (and has a buy out clause) the club have Nahki on a longer contract so have more bargaining power with the potencial buying club ?.[/p][/quote]........and Nakhi's agent looses more bargaining per when negotiating wages and his slice because potential buyers have to pay more for him!!?? This is about what is best for Nakhi Wells, not Bradford City. It's like it or lump it for us I am afraid. fatbloke

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