I’d jump at the chance to stay, says Bradford City skipper Jones (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)

We nearly have a week now before the next match.

We need to use this time wisely to sign up the management team and players for next season.

This would give the team a assive boost for the remaining matches.

The players out of contract are:

Duke, McLoughlin, McHugh, Davies, Atkinson, Jones, Doyle & Reid.

City also have a 12 month option on Thompson & Hines.

I think Duke, Davies & Doyle will leave.

Here is a list of the out of contract players. please excuse the spelling on some names.
(2013.)
Jonny Mac.
Davis.
Reid.
Thompson.
Duke.
Atkinson.
McHugh.
Jones.
Baker.
Hines.
Doyle.
Brown.
Bass.
Williams.

(2014)
Darby.
Meredith.
Ravenhill.
Oliver.
Hanson.
Gray.
Connell.
Nelson.
Mc Cardle.

WELLS. 4yr contract.
This list was provided by the Width of a post site.

silverbantam wrote:
The players out of contract are:

Duke, McLoughlin, McHugh, Davies, Atkinson, Jones, Doyle & Reid.

City also have a 12 month option on Thompson & Hines.

I think Duke, Davies & Doyle will leave.

that's it get rid of our 2 best players davies and doyle
that's players we need to build a winning team around

bantam59 wrote:

silverbantam wrote:
The players out of contract are:

Duke, McLoughlin, McHugh, Davies, Atkinson, Jones, Doyle & Reid.

City also have a 12 month option on Thompson & Hines.

I think Duke, Davies & Doyle will leave.

that's it get rid of our 2 best players davies and doyle
that's players we need to build a winning team around

Theyre the two biggest earners at the club and clearly can play at a higher level. Theyre on one year conracts so we won't be 'getting rid' of them them if they want to leave, no doubt there will be higher level interest.

Rambo wrote:

bantam59 wrote:

silverbantam wrote:
The players out of contract are:

Duke, McLoughlin, McHugh, Davies, Atkinson, Jones, Doyle & Reid.

City also have a 12 month option on Thompson & Hines.

I think Duke, Davies & Doyle will leave.

that's it get rid of our 2 best players davies and doyle
that's players we need to build a winning team around

Theyre the two biggest earners at the club and clearly can play at a higher level. Theyre on one year conracts so we won't be 'getting rid' of them them if they want to leave, no doubt there will be higher level interest.

I THOUGHT WE HAD MONEY NOW
THESE ARE THE SORT OF PLAYERS THAT WE CAN AFFORD AND NEED
TO GET OUT OF THIS BOTTOM TIER

Now i know why Wells has taken a step back with his form he has 4 years wages so why should he worry cant see any other club wanting to buy his contract out plus transfer fee in his present form.

Olivermac wrote:
Now i know why Wells has taken a step back with his form he has 4 years wages so why should he worry cant see any other club wanting to buy his contract out plus transfer fee in his present form.

I've heard that it's a done deal, that he will be off to Leicester city. at end of the season for a fee.

bantam59 wrote:

Rambo wrote:

bantam59 wrote:

silverbantam wrote:
The players out of contract are:

Duke, McLoughlin, McHugh, Davies, Atkinson, Jones, Doyle & Reid.

City also have a 12 month option on Thompson & Hines.

I think Duke, Davies & Doyle will leave.

that's it get rid of our 2 best players davies and doyle
that's players we need to build a winning team around

Theyre the two biggest earners at the club and clearly can play at a higher level. Theyre on one year conracts so we won't be 'getting rid' of them them if they want to leave, no doubt there will be higher level interest.

I THOUGHT WE HAD MONEY NOW
THESE ARE THE SORT OF PLAYERS THAT WE CAN AFFORD AND NEED
TO GET OUT OF THIS BOTTOM TIER

I just have to point out we have got to Wembley without Davies. It has basically been out 2nd string team that has beaten premiership clubs and got us to a major final. We may be able to afford a great squad for next season, but I only need to point out that McCall had one of the largest budgets, if not the largest budget in the division and failed drastically. It isn't about the amount we spend, I would sooner see us spend it wisely, and IF we do fail next season, we will still be in a good financial position and not then not having to go a couple of more seasons on a string budget just to keep the club going, that will benefit nobody. We can cope without some of our top players, Davies I would love to keep, but to be honest, do we need him? We have got some fantastic defenders for our level and look at what we have achieved this season with major injuries. We have been playing our 2nd string defence for the majority of the season, this is the defence that denied Arsenal a shot on goal for 70 minutes, this is a defence that denied Wigan a goal in 90 minutes of play, this is a defence that that only leaked in 3 goals over 180 minutes plus injury time against Villa. If we had Davies and Oliver playing for all of those games, if we didn't have major injuries, could our "first" team have got us to the final? I am not worried who we lose and who we keep. Parkinson made some fantastic signings last season on a lesser budget, apart from Gray who I wish will be gone come the summer who offers nothing to the squad, other than denying more deserving players who can develop and contibute more assists and goals, both of which he failed to do first time. Duke for me is the most important to keep, Hines I will be surprised if we keep as he is already talking about moving on to a higher level, to be fair he does deserve and more than capable of and in reality a player we should have had no right in signing at this level. Wells overrated and we should cash in on him, Hanson, nothing special and a player I am not bothered if we keep or sell if I a 100% truthful as he offers nothing different to any other striker in this division. He is good enough to keep for a promotion push, but he is not exceptional is what I am trying to say. If we lose some of the players, which we will as it happens at every single club every single year, just remember, we are in a better position now than 12 months ago to create a promotion winning side. 12 months ago who would have thought we had a new manager with a new squad that would get us to a major domestic cup final? This time we have stability with a manager that has been here for over a year. We will attract more players than we would have normally had due to the cup run, we have financial stability with the cup revenue, but we can not waste and burn it for the sake of one season's gamble which we have done in the past, I can refer to the summer of 6 weeks of madness as the perfect example. We have money, let's plan with it and not just spend it all in one go. Also Bantam 59, yes, these are the type of players that we need, but don't get too despondent if we don't keep them. These are the TYPE of players we need, these individuals are not the only players of their TYPE available to us for next season. Don't panic, we will keep some of them, some will go on their own accord and some we will let go because of our manager's plan in which we will have to trust. For the ones that do leave, Parkinson will replace with players that I am sure will be good enough. Out of all his signings, there is only 1 I am not happy about and that is Andy Gray. For the love of God, I can't understand why we have signed him, I would play Hanson, Wells, Thompson and Connel in front him, even give some game time to a youngster as he will not score or create any less goals than Gray. One last thing, if someone last August told me at the draw of getting Notts County away if I would accept mid table obscurity but in return I would see my team at Wembley in the league cup final, I would have bitten their hand off at the time. This season is a success and one 40,000 of us will never forget. Sure made it worthwhile sat in the cold rain watching us struggle against Burton Albion that night for the majority of the duration of the game.

THIS SEASON HAS BEEN FANTASTIC WITH SOME OF OUR MAJOR PLAYERS OUT INJURED FOR A GOOD PART. Don't worry if we lose some "BIG" players come the summer, we have managed without all of them all season, and whoever we do lose will get replaced by a manager that has already set up his stall down at VP.

Sorry, I meant to say 120 minutes plus injury time against Wigan we denied them a goal, not 90 minutes.

You don't start paying silly wages in relation to this level, regardless of how much money we do have. One you do that you set yourself up for a fall.

You don't start paying silly wages in relation to this level, regardless of how much money we do have. One you do that you set yourself up for a fall.

Give him a coaching job when he hangs up his boots.

personally think the majority of players will sign on again the one that I feel may leave is Reid mainly because his family is down south and he knows his Girlfriend wont move north, the rest including Doyle and Davies I can see signing on for another year with hopefully McHugh tied down longer than that

ALEXIMO.56. wrote:

Olivermac wrote:
Now i know why Wells has taken a step back with his form he has 4 years wages so why should he worry cant see any other club wanting to buy his contract out plus transfer fee in his present form.

I've heard that it's a done deal, that he will be off to Leicester city. at end of the season for a fee.

good riddance
only ever plays when sky tv at game

ALEXIMO.56. wrote:

Olivermac wrote:
Now i know why Wells has taken a step back with his form he has 4 years wages so why should he worry cant see any other club wanting to buy his contract out plus transfer fee in his present form.

I've heard that it's a done deal, that he will be off to Leicester city. at end of the season for a fee.

Would be interesting how that would turn out if true for both City and Wells. As much as he has been a positive this past couple of seasons, I still think he is over rated. He has pace, but that is his major skill, he has scored a couple of fantastic goals no denying, but luck does play a part in them as well as ability and that is with any player that scores, but as they say, you make your own luck. He goes more games without scoring than he does scoring blinders, let's put it that way. Like Michael Owen, I would love to see how Wells performs when he starts to lose his pace. Some players can develop and cope like Henry, some can't. I am not a Wells hater, personally speaking, I would sooner us cash in on him now while he is hot property as I have seen it all before with City and our "top" players. How often have we seen the player be fantastic for us, be it in rose tinted glasses with the hype or in reality for 1, maybe 2 seasons and then fizzles out and ends up in none league? Perfect example is Danny Forrest. We sung his name in the stands, singing "Forrest for England", rumours of higher division clubs coming in for him. What was the end result for both player and City as we do have a tendency to overrate our own players at times with the slightest hint of hype. Let's get in some clauses and that will benefit our club over the next couple of seasons and will more than pay for a striker that is more than capable at our level irrespective if he is better or worse than Nahki, but good enough for what we need and we still have cash to spare. Wells has been/is fantastic for City, he really has, but I would cash in on him. His goals have dried up and if that continues into next season he will be the next Ross Hannah and be staring at going into the Conference on a free as opposed to becoming the next Shaun Goater as he is wanting to achieve. He has only scored once in the last 11 games over the last 2 and half months, he is not good enough this moment in time to be guaranteed to play in the 4th division with a 4th division club. Mentally he is not in the right frame of mind at this moment in time, maybe he is taking too much notice of his own hype, or maybe distracted with the thought of playing at a bigger club at a higher division which he has been thinking about over the last 12 months. It would be a loss but it wouldn't be at the same time if that makes sense. 18 goals is fantastic, but any club, especially one wanting promotion would expect 20 as a bare minimum return from their leading striker, last season he got 12 which is not exactly great from a striker, it's not bad, not even average and what you would expect for a main striker at any given club even at our level, it's like getting a C, just above a C- in an exam, it's borderline, but nothing to should about from the rooftops. His form has taken a major dive this past few months and I would sell him and invest in a promotion charging squad for next season and have the funds there to help us become more stable both on and off the field and IF we do go up, we have enough funds to get a squad good enough to keep us up in the 3rd division.

Rambo wrote:
You don't start paying silly wages in relation to this level, regardless of how much money we do have. One you do that you set yourself up for a fall.

Agree 100%. We have got some really good players, but we can get players that are more than capable to do the job at a fraction of the cost. It's like buying a Porsche GT2 to race a bunch of skoda Fabia Vrs' around a race track. The Porsche will do the job, but it doesn't mean you can't achieve the same result if you spent less of your money on a say a Nissan 350z or even an Octavia Vrs. We have some fantastic players, but the need for such players is questionable.

LuvFootball wrote:

Rambo wrote:
You don't start paying silly wages in relation to this level, regardless of how much money we do have. One you do that you set yourself up for a fall.

Agree 100%. We have got some really good players, but we can get players that are more than capable to do the job at a fraction of the cost. It's like buying a Porsche GT2 to race a bunch of skoda Fabia Vrs' around a race track. The Porsche will do the job, but it doesn't mean you can't achieve the same result if you spent less of your money on a say a Nissan 350z or even an Octavia Vrs. We have some fantastic players, but the need for such players is questionable.

Octavia Vrs. We have some fantastic players, but the need for such players is questionable.” if they are so fantastic why are we the longest serving team in this bottom league other than accy Stanley
tunnel vision comes to mind

bantam59 wrote:

LuvFootball wrote:

Rambo wrote:
You don't start paying silly wages in relation to this level, regardless of how much money we do have. One you do that you set yourself up for a fall.

Agree 100%. We have got some really good players, but we can get players that are more than capable to do the job at a fraction of the cost. It's like buying a Porsche GT2 to race a bunch of skoda Fabia Vrs' around a race track. The Porsche will do the job, but it doesn't mean you can't achieve the same result if you spent less of your money on a say a Nissan 350z or even an Octavia Vrs. We have some fantastic players, but the need for such players is questionable.

Octavia Vrs. We have some fantastic players, but the need for such players is questionable.” if they are so fantastic why are we the longest serving team in this bottom league other than accy Stanley
tunnel vision comes to mind

We have some fantastic players, but the need for such players is questionable.”
ARE YOU ACCTUALLY COMMENTING ON BRADFORD CITY????????????????
????????????

Because possibly they have not been at the club for the last half a dozen years?

bantam59 wrote:

bantam59 wrote:

LuvFootball wrote:

Rambo wrote:
You don't start paying silly wages in relation to this level, regardless of how much money we do have. One you do that you set yourself up for a fall.

Agree 100%. We have got some really good players, but we can get players that are more than capable to do the job at a fraction of the cost. It's like buying a Porsche GT2 to race a bunch of skoda Fabia Vrs' around a race track. The Porsche will do the job, but it doesn't mean you can't achieve the same result if you spent less of your money on a say a Nissan 350z or even an Octavia Vrs. We have some fantastic players, but the need for such players is questionable.

Octavia Vrs. We have some fantastic players, but the need for such players is questionable.” if they are so fantastic why are we the longest serving team in this bottom league other than accy Stanley
tunnel vision comes to mind

We have some fantastic players, but the need for such players is questionable.”
ARE YOU ACCTUALLY COMMENTING ON BRADFORD CITY????????????????

????????????

Well yes, I will say it again. We have some fantastic players. They have been good enough to get to Wembley in a major cup final. So yes, I will say it again if you like. We have some fantastic players. Would you like me to say it again just in case you have misheard that? Our squad even made sensational news in Japan and Australia. Something that dozens of other clubs have failed to do. They must be truth in that we have some fantastic players if they are good enough for positive global news and to get to a major cup final. Oh, go on, let me tell you 1 more time. We have got some fantastic players Bantam59.

Good posts LufFootball. Totally agree with keeping/not keeping players that will be good enough playing higher division football if we get promoted............
...
BUT........ having 11 Championship players in your team does not mean they can hack it in this division, or get us promoted.
Promotion comes with more league money, higher crowds etc and that takes care of better players & higher wages when it happens, not now.

Tickertex wrote:
Good posts LufFootball. Totally agree with keeping/not keeping players that will be good enough playing higher division football if we get promoted............

...
BUT........ having 11 Championship players in your team does not mean they can hack it in this division, or get us promoted.
Promotion comes with more league money, higher crowds etc and that takes care of better players & higher wages when it happens, not now.

Yep agree, look at some of the teams that are getting promoted from the 3rd and 4th divisions. Even some clubs are getting promoted from the 3rd division on a lower budget than we have had in staying in the 4th and finishing 18th, because they are employing the right type of players for their situation. Football is totally different in the 4th division than it is in the 2nd, which is one reason I believe we have been beating higher divisions clubs in all cup competitions over the last few seasons because we play a different style compared to what they are used to. Sometimes it pays off, sometimes it doesn't. You wouldn't buy an F1 car for a rally cross. so why does a 4th division club need flair ability more suited to a more skilled game on better pitches and less contact when all they need is raw ability just to get the job done on a cold Tuesday night on inferior pitches in smaller grounds, true grit and hunger just like all the other teams in the same division. It is good to have and watch the better players, but sometimes when you need someone to go in when things are 50/50, someone who is not scared of getting bruised is of more value. Nicky Summberbee was great at providing crosses and setting up goals and had the most assists when he was here, but give him anything 50.50, he held back. Gary Jones I hope we keep, he is a battler and will get stuck in, he knows how the opposition plays, he knows how to play at this level, and he knows how to play well at this level. Some of the players we have had over the last couple of seasons that are more than easily capable of a higher division were just the wrong type of players we have needed. I am not saying they were bad players, they were just not the right type of players. We need good 4th division players, not good 2nd division players, not good European players, but players that are suited for our opposition. Willy Topp is a good example, he was billed as the "new" Carbone and likened to him, but his style was totally inadequate for the league that we are in.

bantam59 wrote:

LuvFootball wrote:

Rambo wrote:
You don't start paying silly wages in relation to this level, regardless of how much money we do have. One you do that you set yourself up for a fall.

Agree 100%. We have got some really good players, but we can get players that are more than capable to do the job at a fraction of the cost. It's like buying a Porsche GT2 to race a bunch of skoda Fabia Vrs' around a race track. The Porsche will do the job, but it doesn't mean you can't achieve the same result if you spent less of your money on a say a Nissan 350z or even an Octavia Vrs. We have some fantastic players, but the need for such players is questionable.

Octavia Vrs. We have some fantastic players, but the need for such players is questionable.” if they are so fantastic why are we the longest serving team in this bottom league other than accy Stanley
tunnel vision comes to mind

I've read quite a few of your comments in recent days and I can only assume that the 59 relates to your IQ.

You clearly think that promotion for City is just a matter of doing all those things that work on Championship Manager. What has the stat about being in League 2 longer than anyone except Acc Stan got to do with ANYTHING (apart from it being your only stat). You are aware that Rochdale have spent only one season in the last four decades outside of League 2 I presume? So what? You are also aware I suppose that there are two routes out of League 2 so it could be worse.

In short, what is your point? You are a classic example of the simpleton who makes his mind up based on snippets of information and has little or no ability to consider other factors.

Tickertex wrote:
Good posts LufFootball. Totally agree with keeping/not keeping players that will be good enough playing higher division football if we get promoted............

...
BUT........ having 11 Championship players in your team does not mean they can hack it in this division, or get us promoted.
Promotion comes with more league money, higher crowds etc and that takes care of better players & higher wages when it happens, not now.

Just a thought, there is no question of doubt that say Jack Wilshere is a million times better than practically every single squad member at VP. But week in week out in the 4th division do you think we would perform better with him in our midfield outside of a division he is used to playing in or Gary Jones? It is debatable if you actually gave it some thought. Arsenal play some beautiful football at times, but it is a totally different game to what you see in the 4th division. That is why sometimes you see fantastic world class players under achieving in other divisions. We have seen players leave the Premiership or come into the Premiership from other top flights and are terrible only to be shipped back to where they were playing a season or 2 before and again playing world class again.

LuvFootball wrote:

ALEXIMO.56. wrote:

Olivermac wrote:
Now i know why Wells has taken a step back with his form he has 4 years wages so why should he worry cant see any other club wanting to buy his contract out plus transfer fee in his present form.

I've heard that it's a done deal, that he will be off to Leicester city. at end of the season for a fee.

Would be interesting how that would turn out if true for both City and Wells. As much as he has been a positive this past couple of seasons, I still think he is over rated. He has pace, but that is his major skill, he has scored a couple of fantastic goals no denying, but luck does play a part in them as well as ability and that is with any player that scores, but as they say, you make your own luck. He goes more games without scoring than he does scoring blinders, let's put it that way. Like Michael Owen, I would love to see how Wells performs when he starts to lose his pace. Some players can develop and cope like Henry, some can't. I am not a Wells hater, personally speaking, I would sooner us cash in on him now while he is hot property as I have seen it all before with City and our "top" players. How often have we seen the player be fantastic for us, be it in rose tinted glasses with the hype or in reality for 1, maybe 2 seasons and then fizzles out and ends up in none league? Perfect example is Danny Forrest. We sung his name in the stands, singing "Forrest for England", rumours of higher division clubs coming in for him. What was the end result for both player and City as we do have a tendency to overrate our own players at times with the slightest hint of hype. Let's get in some clauses and that will benefit our club over the next couple of seasons and will more than pay for a striker that is more than capable at our level irrespective if he is better or worse than Nahki, but good enough for what we need and we still have cash to spare. Wells has been/is fantastic for City, he really has, but I would cash in on him. His goals have dried up and if that continues into next season he will be the next Ross Hannah and be staring at going into the Conference on a free as opposed to becoming the next Shaun Goater as he is wanting to achieve. He has only scored once in the last 11 games over the last 2 and half months, he is not good enough this moment in time to be guaranteed to play in the 4th division with a 4th division club. Mentally he is not in the right frame of mind at this moment in time, maybe he is taking too much notice of his own hype, or maybe distracted with the thought of playing at a bigger club at a higher division which he has been thinking about over the last 12 months. It would be a loss but it wouldn't be at the same time if that makes sense. 18 goals is fantastic, but any club, especially one wanting promotion would expect 20 as a bare minimum return from their leading striker, last season he got 12 which is not exactly great from a striker, it's not bad, not even average and what you would expect for a main striker at any given club even at our level, it's like getting a C, just above a C- in an exam, it's borderline, but nothing to should about from the rooftops. His form has taken a major dive this past few months and I would sell him and invest in a promotion charging squad for next season and have the funds there to help us become more stable both on and off the field and IF we do go up, we have enough funds to get a squad good enough to keep us up in the 3rd division.

Are you a psychologist? Why do you think that you understand what Nahki Wells is thinking at the moment or why he "appears" to have gone off the boil. Why should we expect 20 goals? And why are you judging him on 18 goals when there are 8 games to go and he may well score two more.

Why are you criticising the 12 (think it was 13) goals he got last season as not enough when he didn't break into the first team until December which I am sure would tally well with a 20 goal season proportionately.

The problem doesn't lay with Wells at all; it lays with amateur pundits who are looking for a reason that City don't win every week, notice that we haven't scored enough, blame this on the strikers only and then look at Wells because Hanson has scored a couple recently.

You are clearly making a case in your own head for Wells having gone off the boil but you have little or nothing to back it up. 18 goals so far is an excellent return and is the best return for any City striker for several years (Windass maybe?). Stop analysing players as though you are adding something valuable to a debate.

Rambo wrote:

bantam59 wrote:

silverbantam wrote:
The players out of contract are:

Duke, McLoughlin, McHugh, Davies, Atkinson, Jones, Doyle & Reid.

City also have a 12 month option on Thompson & Hines.

I think Duke, Davies & Doyle will leave.

that's it get rid of our 2 best players davies and doyle
that's players we need to build a winning team around

Theyre the two biggest earners at the club and clearly can play at a higher level. Theyre on one year conracts so we won't be 'getting rid' of them them if they want to leave, no doubt there will be higher level interest.

Vey good point Rambo although I fear you may be wasting your efforts. Logic doesn't sit well with Mr 59.

bantam59 wrote:

Rambo wrote:

bantam59 wrote:

silverbantam wrote:
The players out of contract are:

Duke, McLoughlin, McHugh, Davies, Atkinson, Jones, Doyle & Reid.

City also have a 12 month option on Thompson & Hines.

I think Duke, Davies & Doyle will leave.

that's it get rid of our 2 best players davies and doyle
that's players we need to build a winning team around

Theyre the two biggest earners at the club and clearly can play at a higher level. Theyre on one year conracts so we won't be 'getting rid' of them them if they want to leave, no doubt there will be higher level interest.

I THOUGHT WE HAD MONEY NOW
THESE ARE THE SORT OF PLAYERS THAT WE CAN AFFORD AND NEED
TO GET OUT OF THIS BOTTOM TIER

Do you have much experience of setting a budget for a football club? Do you have much memory of "pushing the boat out" lets say, about 12 years ago and how that impacted long-term.

I'm glad you are not my FD.

LuvFootball wrote:

bantam59 wrote:

Rambo wrote:

bantam59 wrote:

silverbantam wrote:
The players out of contract are:

Duke, McLoughlin, McHugh, Davies, Atkinson, Jones, Doyle & Reid.

City also have a 12 month option on Thompson & Hines.

I think Duke, Davies & Doyle will leave.

that's it get rid of our 2 best players davies and doyle
that's players we need to build a winning team around

Theyre the two biggest earners at the club and clearly can play at a higher level. Theyre on one year conracts so we won't be 'getting rid' of them them if they want to leave, no doubt there will be higher level interest.

I THOUGHT WE HAD MONEY NOW
THESE ARE THE SORT OF PLAYERS THAT WE CAN AFFORD AND NEED
TO GET OUT OF THIS BOTTOM TIER

I just have to point out we have got to Wembley without Davies. It has basically been out 2nd string team that has beaten premiership clubs and got us to a major final. We may be able to afford a great squad for next season, but I only need to point out that McCall had one of the largest budgets, if not the largest budget in the division and failed drastically. It isn't about the amount we spend, I would sooner see us spend it wisely, and IF we do fail next season, we will still be in a good financial position and not then not having to go a couple of more seasons on a string budget just to keep the club going, that will benefit nobody. We can cope without some of our top players, Davies I would love to keep, but to be honest, do we need him? We have got some fantastic defenders for our level and look at what we have achieved this season with major injuries. We have been playing our 2nd string defence for the majority of the season, this is the defence that denied Arsenal a shot on goal for 70 minutes, this is a defence that denied Wigan a goal in 90 minutes of play, this is a defence that that only leaked in 3 goals over 180 minutes plus injury time against Villa. If we had Davies and Oliver playing for all of those games, if we didn't have major injuries, could our "first" team have got us to the final? I am not worried who we lose and who we keep. Parkinson made some fantastic signings last season on a lesser budget, apart from Gray who I wish will be gone come the summer who offers nothing to the squad, other than denying more deserving players who can develop and contibute more assists and goals, both of which he failed to do first time. Duke for me is the most important to keep, Hines I will be surprised if we keep as he is already talking about moving on to a higher level, to be fair he does deserve and more than capable of and in reality a player we should have had no right in signing at this level. Wells overrated and we should cash in on him, Hanson, nothing special and a player I am not bothered if we keep or sell if I a 100% truthful as he offers nothing different to any other striker in this division. He is good enough to keep for a promotion push, but he is not exceptional is what I am trying to say. If we lose some of the players, which we will as it happens at every single club every single year, just remember, we are in a better position now than 12 months ago to create a promotion winning side. 12 months ago who would have thought we had a new manager with a new squad that would get us to a major domestic cup final? This time we have stability with a manager that has been here for over a year. We will attract more players than we would have normally had due to the cup run, we have financial stability with the cup revenue, but we can not waste and burn it for the sake of one season's gamble which we have done in the past, I can refer to the summer of 6 weeks of madness as the perfect example. We have money, let's plan with it and not just spend it all in one go. Also Bantam 59, yes, these are the type of players that we need, but don't get too despondent if we don't keep them. These are the TYPE of players we need, these individuals are not the only players of their TYPE available to us for next season. Don't panic, we will keep some of them, some will go on their own accord and some we will let go because of our manager's plan in which we will have to trust. For the ones that do leave, Parkinson will replace with players that I am sure will be good enough. Out of all his signings, there is only 1 I am not happy about and that is Andy Gray. For the love of God, I can't understand why we have signed him, I would play Hanson, Wells, Thompson and Connel in front him, even give some game time to a youngster as he will not score or create any less goals than Gray. One last thing, if someone last August told me at the draw of getting Notts County away if I would accept mid table obscurity but in return I would see my team at Wembley in the league cup final, I would have bitten their hand off at the time. This season is a success and one 40,000 of us will never forget. Sure made it worthwhile sat in the cold rain watching us struggle against Burton Albion that night for the majority of the duration of the game.

THIS SEASON HAS BEEN FANTASTIC WITH SOME OF OUR MAJOR PLAYERS OUT INJURED FOR A GOOD PART. Don't worry if we lose some "BIG" players come the summer, we have managed without all of them all season, and whoever we do lose will get replaced by a manager that has already set up his stall down at VP.

By the way; I agree with 99% of the above. Very sensible comments.

I would caution against being so anti-Gray though. He is a class player with a bundle of experience who has made a career out of playing football at Championship level. He didn't manage this by being a poor player. If you are so happy to back PP in his ability to spot and sign players then perhaps you need to trust his judgement on Andy Gray too. He could well be next seasons' Will Atkinson.

KnightMcCall wrote:

LuvFootball wrote:

ALEXIMO.56. wrote:

Olivermac wrote:
Now i know why Wells has taken a step back with his form he has 4 years wages so why should he worry cant see any other club wanting to buy his contract out plus transfer fee in his present form.

I've heard that it's a done deal, that he will be off to Leicester city. at end of the season for a fee.

Would be interesting how that would turn out if true for both City and Wells. As much as he has been a positive this past couple of seasons, I still think he is over rated. He has pace, but that is his major skill, he has scored a couple of fantastic goals no denying, but luck does play a part in them as well as ability and that is with any player that scores, but as they say, you make your own luck. He goes more games without scoring than he does scoring blinders, let's put it that way. Like Michael Owen, I would love to see how Wells performs when he starts to lose his pace. Some players can develop and cope like Henry, some can't. I am not a Wells hater, personally speaking, I would sooner us cash in on him now while he is hot property as I have seen it all before with City and our "top" players. How often have we seen the player be fantastic for us, be it in rose tinted glasses with the hype or in reality for 1, maybe 2 seasons and then fizzles out and ends up in none league? Perfect example is Danny Forrest. We sung his name in the stands, singing "Forrest for England", rumours of higher division clubs coming in for him. What was the end result for both player and City as we do have a tendency to overrate our own players at times with the slightest hint of hype. Let's get in some clauses and that will benefit our club over the next couple of seasons and will more than pay for a striker that is more than capable at our level irrespective if he is better or worse than Nahki, but good enough for what we need and we still have cash to spare. Wells has been/is fantastic for City, he really has, but I would cash in on him. His goals have dried up and if that continues into next season he will be the next Ross Hannah and be staring at going into the Conference on a free as opposed to becoming the next Shaun Goater as he is wanting to achieve. He has only scored once in the last 11 games over the last 2 and half months, he is not good enough this moment in time to be guaranteed to play in the 4th division with a 4th division club. Mentally he is not in the right frame of mind at this moment in time, maybe he is taking too much notice of his own hype, or maybe distracted with the thought of playing at a bigger club at a higher division which he has been thinking about over the last 12 months. It would be a loss but it wouldn't be at the same time if that makes sense. 18 goals is fantastic, but any club, especially one wanting promotion would expect 20 as a bare minimum return from their leading striker, last season he got 12 which is not exactly great from a striker, it's not bad, not even average and what you would expect for a main striker at any given club even at our level, it's like getting a C, just above a C- in an exam, it's borderline, but nothing to should about from the rooftops. His form has taken a major dive this past few months and I would sell him and invest in a promotion charging squad for next season and have the funds there to help us become more stable both on and off the field and IF we do go up, we have enough funds to get a squad good enough to keep us up in the 3rd division.

Are you a psychologist? Why do you think that you understand what Nahki Wells is thinking at the moment or why he "appears" to have gone off the boil. Why should we expect 20 goals? And why are you judging him on 18 goals when there are 8 games to go and he may well score two more.

Why are you criticising the 12 (think it was 13) goals he got last season as not enough when he didn't break into the first team until December which I am sure would tally well with a 20 goal season proportionately.

The problem doesn't lay with Wells at all; it lays with amateur pundits who are looking for a reason that City don't win every week, notice that we haven't scored enough, blame this on the strikers only and then look at Wells because Hanson has scored a couple recently.

You are clearly making a case in your own head for Wells having gone off the boil but you have little or nothing to back it up. 18 goals so far is an excellent return and is the best return for any City striker for several years (Windass maybe?). Stop analysing players as though you are adding something valuable to a debate.

Well, yes I do have something to back it up. I noticed he isn't exactly the the first on the team sheet, and oh, the lack of goals. This can be attributed to the supply, but when he is not getting as much of a look in from the manager, sometimes not even getting off the bench for the last 5 minutes may back the debate up. For your record, if you don't want to hear someone's opinion, then don't listen, who are you to tell me or anybody else to stop having an opinion? You don't like it, then jog on.

Wells is distracted and I for one believe we are better to sell him while there is a bit of hype surrounding him. If you read his interviews 12 months ago he was prepared to do another season with City, but after that he wasn't sure. He may be regretting signing 4 yrs with us, yes we got to Wembley, but it is looking likely we are playing in the 4th division again next season. His mind is not fully focused, the cup was a distraction for everyone, players and supporters alike. But you have no right at all to tell me or anybody else to stop having an opinion and voicing myself or themselves. You don't like it, get some ear plugs and jog on.

KnightMcCall wrote:

LuvFootball wrote:

bantam59 wrote:

Rambo wrote:

bantam59 wrote:

silverbantam wrote:
The players out of contract are:

Duke, McLoughlin, McHugh, Davies, Atkinson, Jones, Doyle & Reid.

City also have a 12 month option on Thompson & Hines.

I think Duke, Davies & Doyle will leave.

that's it get rid of our 2 best players davies and doyle
that's players we need to build a winning team around

Theyre the two biggest earners at the club and clearly can play at a higher level. Theyre on one year conracts so we won't be 'getting rid' of them them if they want to leave, no doubt there will be higher level interest.

I THOUGHT WE HAD MONEY NOW
THESE ARE THE SORT OF PLAYERS THAT WE CAN AFFORD AND NEED
TO GET OUT OF THIS BOTTOM TIER

I just have to point out we have got to Wembley without Davies. It has basically been out 2nd string team that has beaten premiership clubs and got us to a major final. We may be able to afford a great squad for next season, but I only need to point out that McCall had one of the largest budgets, if not the largest budget in the division and failed drastically. It isn't about the amount we spend, I would sooner see us spend it wisely, and IF we do fail next season, we will still be in a good financial position and not then not having to go a couple of more seasons on a string budget just to keep the club going, that will benefit nobody. We can cope without some of our top players, Davies I would love to keep, but to be honest, do we need him? We have got some fantastic defenders for our level and look at what we have achieved this season with major injuries. We have been playing our 2nd string defence for the majority of the season, this is the defence that denied Arsenal a shot on goal for 70 minutes, this is a defence that denied Wigan a goal in 90 minutes of play, this is a defence that that only leaked in 3 goals over 180 minutes plus injury time against Villa. If we had Davies and Oliver playing for all of those games, if we didn't have major injuries, could our "first" team have got us to the final? I am not worried who we lose and who we keep. Parkinson made some fantastic signings last season on a lesser budget, apart from Gray who I wish will be gone come the summer who offers nothing to the squad, other than denying more deserving players who can develop and contibute more assists and goals, both of which he failed to do first time. Duke for me is the most important to keep, Hines I will be surprised if we keep as he is already talking about moving on to a higher level, to be fair he does deserve and more than capable of and in reality a player we should have had no right in signing at this level. Wells overrated and we should cash in on him, Hanson, nothing special and a player I am not bothered if we keep or sell if I a 100% truthful as he offers nothing different to any other striker in this division. He is good enough to keep for a promotion push, but he is not exceptional is what I am trying to say. If we lose some of the players, which we will as it happens at every single club every single year, just remember, we are in a better position now than 12 months ago to create a promotion winning side. 12 months ago who would have thought we had a new manager with a new squad that would get us to a major domestic cup final? This time we have stability with a manager that has been here for over a year. We will attract more players than we would have normally had due to the cup run, we have financial stability with the cup revenue, but we can not waste and burn it for the sake of one season's gamble which we have done in the past, I can refer to the summer of 6 weeks of madness as the perfect example. We have money, let's plan with it and not just spend it all in one go. Also Bantam 59, yes, these are the type of players that we need, but don't get too despondent if we don't keep them. These are the TYPE of players we need, these individuals are not the only players of their TYPE available to us for next season. Don't panic, we will keep some of them, some will go on their own accord and some we will let go because of our manager's plan in which we will have to trust. For the ones that do leave, Parkinson will replace with players that I am sure will be good enough. Out of all his signings, there is only 1 I am not happy about and that is Andy Gray. For the love of God, I can't understand why we have signed him, I would play Hanson, Wells, Thompson and Connel in front him, even give some game time to a youngster as he will not score or create any less goals than Gray. One last thing, if someone last August told me at the draw of getting Notts County away if I would accept mid table obscurity but in return I would see my team at Wembley in the league cup final, I would have bitten their hand off at the time. This season is a success and one 40,000 of us will never forget. Sure made it worthwhile sat in the cold rain watching us struggle against Burton Albion that night for the majority of the duration of the game.

THIS SEASON HAS BEEN FANTASTIC WITH SOME OF OUR MAJOR PLAYERS OUT INJURED FOR A GOOD PART. Don't worry if we lose some "BIG" players come the summer, we have managed without all of them all season, and whoever we do lose will get replaced by a manager that has already set up his stall down at VP.

By the way; I agree with 99% of the above. Very sensible comments.

I would caution against being so anti-Gray though. He is a class player with a bundle of experience who has made a career out of playing football at Championship level. He didn't manage this by being a poor player. If you are so happy to back PP in his ability to spot and sign players then perhaps you need to trust his judgement on Andy Gray too. He could well be next seasons' Will Atkinson.

I agree, I think Atkinson was magnificent in changing opinions about his ability and drive. Last summer I thought he was a terrible signing and even had a moan or 2 with mates. I don't now. I can't see Gray doing the same, but every time he pulls on the City shirt I will back him and never boo him on pitch or heckle him, that benefits nobody. Parkinson I think is doing well, but everybody makes mistakes, even the mighty Sir Alex has signed some cold turkeys in his time.

LuvFootball wrote:

bantam59 wrote:

bantam59 wrote:

LuvFootball wrote:

Rambo wrote:
You don't start paying silly wages in relation to this level, regardless of how much money we do have. One you do that you set yourself up for a fall.

Agree 100%. We have got some really good players, but we can get players that are more than capable to do the job at a fraction of the cost. It's like buying a Porsche GT2 to race a bunch of skoda Fabia Vrs' around a race track. The Porsche will do the job, but it doesn't mean you can't achieve the same result if you spent less of your money on a say a Nissan 350z or even an Octavia Vrs. We have some fantastic players, but the need for such players is questionable.

Octavia Vrs. We have some fantastic players, but the need for such players is questionable.” if they are so fantastic why are we the longest serving team in this bottom league other than accy Stanley
tunnel vision comes to mind

We have some fantastic players, but the need for such players is questionable.”
ARE YOU ACCTUALLY COMMENTING ON BRADFORD CITY????????????????


????????????

Well yes, I will say it again. We have some fantastic players. They have been good enough to get to Wembley in a major cup final. So yes, I will say it again if you like. We have some fantastic players. Would you like me to say it again just in case you have misheard that? Our squad even made sensational news in Japan and Australia. Something that dozens of other clubs have failed to do. They must be truth in that we have some fantastic players if they are good enough for positive global news and to get to a major cup final. Oh, go on, let me tell you 1 more time. We have got some fantastic players Bantam59.

ANY SQUAD REGARDLESS WOULD BE GLOBAL AFTER CUP RUN WE HAD
ARE FANTASTIC PLAYERS ARE MID TABLE IN BOTTOM TIER
AND I WILL SAY IT AGAIN
AND I WILL SAY IT AGAIN & AGAIN
ACCRINGTON STANLEY ARE THE ONLY TEAM TO HAVE BEEN IN BOTTON LEAGUE OF ENGLISH FOOTBALL OTHER THAN US
DO YOU READ ME
SO WERE ARE ARE THE FANTASTIC PLAYERS WHEN LEAGUE 2 DROSS BEAT US EVERY OTHER WEEK
SO IN CASE YOU MISSED IT ACCY STAN ARE V ONLY TEAM TO AT PRESENT BEEN IN BOTTOM LEAGUE OTHER THAN CITY
COMPRIEND!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!

bantam59 wrote:

LuvFootball wrote:

bantam59 wrote:

bantam59 wrote:

LuvFootball wrote:

Rambo wrote:
You don't start paying silly wages in relation to this level, regardless of how much money we do have. One you do that you set yourself up for a fall.

Agree 100%. We have got some really good players, but we can get players that are more than capable to do the job at a fraction of the cost. It's like buying a Porsche GT2 to race a bunch of skoda Fabia Vrs' around a race track. The Porsche will do the job, but it doesn't mean you can't achieve the same result if you spent less of your money on a say a Nissan 350z or even an Octavia Vrs. We have some fantastic players, but the need for such players is questionable.

Octavia Vrs. We have some fantastic players, but the need for such players is questionable.” if they are so fantastic why are we the longest serving team in this bottom league other than accy Stanley
tunnel vision comes to mind

We have some fantastic players, but the need for such players is questionable.”
ARE YOU ACCTUALLY COMMENTING ON BRADFORD CITY????????????????



????????????

Well yes, I will say it again. We have some fantastic players. They have been good enough to get to Wembley in a major cup final. So yes, I will say it again if you like. We have some fantastic players. Would you like me to say it again just in case you have misheard that? Our squad even made sensational news in Japan and Australia. Something that dozens of other clubs have failed to do. They must be truth in that we have some fantastic players if they are good enough for positive global news and to get to a major cup final. Oh, go on, let me tell you 1 more time. We have got some fantastic players Bantam59.

ANY SQUAD REGARDLESS WOULD BE GLOBAL AFTER CUP RUN WE HAD
ARE FANTASTIC PLAYERS ARE MID TABLE IN BOTTOM TIER
AND I WILL SAY IT AGAIN
AND I WILL SAY IT AGAIN & AGAIN
ACCRINGTON STANLEY ARE THE ONLY TEAM TO HAVE BEEN IN BOTTON LEAGUE OF ENGLISH FOOTBALL OTHER THAN US
DO YOU READ ME
SO WERE ARE ARE THE FANTASTIC PLAYERS WHEN LEAGUE 2 DROSS BEAT US EVERY OTHER WEEK
SO IN CASE YOU MISSED IT ACCY STAN ARE V ONLY TEAM TO AT PRESENT BEEN IN BOTTOM LEAGUE OTHER THAN CITY
COMPRIEND!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!

LONGEST IN THIS LEAGUE I SHUD SAY ACCY STAN

I GO WATCH CITY
YES WATCH HOME AND AWAY
NOT ON RADIO
SO I AM WONDERING WERE WAS THE FANTASTIC PLAYERS V
WIMBLEDON
PLYMOUTH
EXETER
DAGGERS
ALDERSHOT
NEED I GO ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!
WE WERE BEATEN BY RUBBISH
END OF STORY
OVER AND OUT

Imo the criticism of wells is bonkers. Correct me if I am wrong but he did not start the season in the first 11 but when he got his chance came he made his mark. He is a young lad who probably has had his head turned and his form has suffered. Ok, he is having a spell on the bench. This does not make him a poor player, or does being fast and being able to score goals (unbelievable). In my opinion he has the ability to go past players with ease and it will be interesting to see how he does get on when he eventually plays at a higher level. One more think, I thought Thompson and Hanson looked good Tuesday night but what did we have to show for it? One scrappy goal.and didn't Thompson miss a one on one in the south west! My point being, there is no striker in our squad better than an on form wells and he has proved it.

And Gary Jones is fantastic too.

Victor Clayton wrote:
And Gary Jones is fantastic too.

really!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that's why he is in vis dross league
and played at Rochdale all his life
CAPTAIN FANTASTIC more like

LuvFootball wrote:

KnightMcCall wrote:

LuvFootball wrote:

ALEXIMO.56. wrote:

Olivermac wrote:
Now i know why Wells has taken a step back with his form he has 4 years wages so why should he worry cant see any other club wanting to buy his contract out plus transfer fee in his present form.

I've heard that it's a done deal, that he will be off to Leicester city. at end of the season for a fee.

Would be interesting how that would turn out if true for both City and Wells. As much as he has been a positive this past couple of seasons, I still think he is over rated. He has pace, but that is his major skill, he has scored a couple of fantastic goals no denying, but luck does play a part in them as well as ability and that is with any player that scores, but as they say, you make your own luck. He goes more games without scoring than he does scoring blinders, let's put it that way. Like Michael Owen, I would love to see how Wells performs when he starts to lose his pace. Some players can develop and cope like Henry, some can't. I am not a Wells hater, personally speaking, I would sooner us cash in on him now while he is hot property as I have seen it all before with City and our "top" players. How often have we seen the player be fantastic for us, be it in rose tinted glasses with the hype or in reality for 1, maybe 2 seasons and then fizzles out and ends up in none league? Perfect example is Danny Forrest. We sung his name in the stands, singing "Forrest for England", rumours of higher division clubs coming in for him. What was the end result for both player and City as we do have a tendency to overrate our own players at times with the slightest hint of hype. Let's get in some clauses and that will benefit our club over the next couple of seasons and will more than pay for a striker that is more than capable at our level irrespective if he is better or worse than Nahki, but good enough for what we need and we still have cash to spare. Wells has been/is fantastic for City, he really has, but I would cash in on him. His goals have dried up and if that continues into next season he will be the next Ross Hannah and be staring at going into the Conference on a free as opposed to becoming the next Shaun Goater as he is wanting to achieve. He has only scored once in the last 11 games over the last 2 and half months, he is not good enough this moment in time to be guaranteed to play in the 4th division with a 4th division club. Mentally he is not in the right frame of mind at this moment in time, maybe he is taking too much notice of his own hype, or maybe distracted with the thought of playing at a bigger club at a higher division which he has been thinking about over the last 12 months. It would be a loss but it wouldn't be at the same time if that makes sense. 18 goals is fantastic, but any club, especially one wanting promotion would expect 20 as a bare minimum return from their leading striker, last season he got 12 which is not exactly great from a striker, it's not bad, not even average and what you would expect for a main striker at any given club even at our level, it's like getting a C, just above a C- in an exam, it's borderline, but nothing to should about from the rooftops. His form has taken a major dive this past few months and I would sell him and invest in a promotion charging squad for next season and have the funds there to help us become more stable both on and off the field and IF we do go up, we have enough funds to get a squad good enough to keep us up in the 3rd division.

Are you a psychologist? Why do you think that you understand what Nahki Wells is thinking at the moment or why he "appears" to have gone off the boil. Why should we expect 20 goals? And why are you judging him on 18 goals when there are 8 games to go and he may well score two more.

Why are you criticising the 12 (think it was 13) goals he got last season as not enough when he didn't break into the first team until December which I am sure would tally well with a 20 goal season proportionately.

The problem doesn't lay with Wells at all; it lays with amateur pundits who are looking for a reason that City don't win every week, notice that we haven't scored enough, blame this on the strikers only and then look at Wells because Hanson has scored a couple recently.

You are clearly making a case in your own head for Wells having gone off the boil but you have little or nothing to back it up. 18 goals so far is an excellent return and is the best return for any City striker for several years (Windass maybe?). Stop analysing players as though you are adding something valuable to a debate.

Well, yes I do have something to back it up. I noticed he isn't exactly the the first on the team sheet, and oh, the lack of goals. This can be attributed to the supply, but when he is not getting as much of a look in from the manager, sometimes not even getting off the bench for the last 5 minutes may back the debate up. For your record, if you don't want to hear someone's opinion, then don't listen, who are you to tell me or anybody else to stop having an opinion? You don't like it, then jog on.

Wells is distracted and I for one believe we are better to sell him while there is a bit of hype surrounding him. If you read his interviews 12 months ago he was prepared to do another season with City, but after that he wasn't sure. He may be regretting signing 4 yrs with us, yes we got to Wembley, but it is looking likely we are playing in the 4th division again next season. His mind is not fully focused, the cup was a distraction for everyone, players and supporters alike. But you have no right at all to tell me or anybody else to stop having an opinion and voicing myself or themselves. You don't like it, get some ear plugs and jog on.

So not currently first on the team sheet and a lack of goals is your "evidence"? You and many others have decided that Wells has gone off the boil, had his head turned or whatever and you then try and find something that you will back up this belief.

You are forming an opinion on a couple of flimsy pieces of "evidence" and then expanding on it as though your musings are somehow fact. Have you considered that there are many, many things that you do not know about Nahki Wells? Perhaps he is feeling the pressure of attracting interest from other clubs; perhaps he is struggling for form and is trying too hard, perhaps PP wants to keep him out of the limelight, perhaps he is carrying a knock, perhaps PP just wants to give Thommo a few games up-front. You state that he is distracted and not focused; well maybe you are right but in reality; you don't have a clue if that's true or not and you would need a great deal more evidence than he's not started the last couple of games and he hasn't scored for a while.

You can have an opinion but if you are going to voice it; expect to get a response if it is poorly expressed. If you just want people who don't agree with it to jog on then don't post! Oh the irony...

"the cup was a distraction for everyone"...again, there is only flimsy and anecdotal evidence for this comment so please don't treat it as fact. It's the sort of sh!te that Savage, Lawrenson and Crooks make a living out of saying and it's ill-thought out rubbish.

If you want the truth about why Wells isn't playing brilliantly right now then I will let you into a little secret...no-one knows why!! It's probably a combination of many, many things and by Friday he might be back to his best.

bantam59 wrote:

Victor Clayton wrote:
And Gary Jones is fantastic too.

really!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that's why he is in vis dross league
and played at Rochdale all his life
CAPTAIN FANTASTIC more like

He is always keen, always available and never standing bye watching other do his work. I think that he is fantastic. And that is a fact!

Victor Clayton wrote:

bantam59 wrote:

Victor Clayton wrote:
And Gary Jones is fantastic too.

really!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that's why he is in vis dross league
and played at Rochdale all his life
CAPTAIN FANTASTIC more like

He is always keen, always available and never standing bye watching other do his work. I think that he is fantastic. And that is a fact!

what ever you say
captain marvel
get a grip of yourself vic

bantam59 wrote:

Victor Clayton wrote:

bantam59 wrote:

Victor Clayton wrote:
And Gary Jones is fantastic too.

really!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that's why he is in vis dross league
and played at Rochdale all his life
CAPTAIN FANTASTIC more like

He is always keen, always available and never standing bye watching other do his work. I think that he is fantastic. And that is a fact!

what ever you say
captain marvel
get a grip of yourself vic

Ok, name me some better midfield players that city have had while being in this league?

Victor Clayton wrote:

bantam59 wrote:

Victor Clayton wrote:

bantam59 wrote:

Victor Clayton wrote:
And Gary Jones is fantastic too.

really!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that's why he is in vis dross league
and played at Rochdale all his life
CAPTAIN FANTASTIC more like

He is always keen, always available and never standing bye watching other do his work. I think that he is fantastic. And that is a fact!

what ever you say
captain marvel
get a grip of yourself vic

Ok, name me some better midfield players that city have had while being in this league?

if your a true fan you should know vic
I shouldn't have to name the 3 better than hm

bantam59 wrote:

Victor Clayton wrote:

bantam59 wrote:

Victor Clayton wrote:

bantam59 wrote:

Victor Clayton wrote:
And Gary Jones is fantastic too.

really!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that's why he is in vis dross league
and played at Rochdale all his life
CAPTAIN FANTASTIC more like

He is always keen, always available and never standing bye watching other do his work. I think that he is fantastic. And that is a fact!

what ever you say
captain marvel
get a grip of yourself vic

Ok, name me some better midfield players that city have had while being in this league?

if your a true fan you should know vic
I shouldn't have to name the 3 better than hm

You dont have to. It's just a discussion.

Lets face it Gary Jones has been fantastic,a great captain and leader,the odd occasion he does not play so well,neither do city! Vital he stays and I hope he does.He should have played his career at a much higher level,but he is where he is and I think he,ll be abe to carry on for another 2 -3 years,sign him up!!!!

TO BE HONEST I SEEN GARY PLAY AT TADCASTER PRE SEASON FRIENDLEY
AND SAID TO MY LADS THAT THIS GUY IS VERY DECENT FOR US
THE REST IS HISTORY

Wow, there has been a plethora of ignorant posts in recent weeks but some of these here really do take the biscuit.

Knight, I wouldn't waste your finger taps mate, you'd get more sense out of a discussion with a daffodil.

Period Drama wrote:
Wow, there has been a plethora of ignorant posts in recent weeks but some of these here really do take the biscuit.

Knight, I wouldn't waste your finger taps mate, you'd get more sense out of a discussion with a daffodil.

Amen to that!