Parkinson delighted at Bantams' victory Parade (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)

is the impossible dream possible?

Dare we dare to dream again this season, CTID

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The League Cup ---was the impossible dream.
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Dare I hope for another TWO home wins ???!!
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In April City play:-

Chesterfield--Away

Rotherham--Home

Burton Albion--Home

Cheltenham--Away
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IF--City can get results/Points from these Matches.
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Play-Offs is still a very slim chance.

I want another HOME --at Wembley!!!
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Cane we play all our home games on a Tuesday night?
That's nine games unbeaten at home in all competitions this season with an evening kick off.

Oops!...had a recount...it's actually 10, forgot about Northampton in the F.A Cup.

Last night's game was a 'three points or bust' affair and City DID succeed in that, which was the important thing.

And I'd say if the team gets promotion from their current position, bearing in mind some of the sides they have to play it WOULD be a terrific achievement.

Last night's 'pluses':

* the three points

* 'GT's' goal

* Kyle Reid's cross where he twisted/turned and left the defender floundering in the 2nd half. (KR 'improving'!!)

*the defence's performance (apart from the cross where the Wycombe forward should've put away a straightforward header)

* a clean sheet

* stopping the 'rot' of non-home wins

*giving the fans who were there ( a number stayed away) a bit of cheer on a cold night.

* a win encourages a 'flickering light of promotion hope'

* a win will encourage more to attend on Saturday/Good Friday

* Meredith's 'return'-great to see him back in what has become a 'prob' position in his absence.

Thats more like it.

Great energy , commitment and forward momentum last night with us playing further up the pitch, attempting to get to the bye-line etc.

We played the way you need to in division 2. We were more direct when it was needed and generally varied our game more. Yes it invited risk but this was rewaded.

We also got stuck in in what was at times a very competitive and physical game. great spirit and it leaves you wondering why and If only.

Thought Hanson was tremendous in his work rate and was very aggressive.

Reidy was much more like he old self and appeared to have been let of the leash abit and was more motivated to get to the bye-line. This alloweed players to get in the box more. hanson however needs to stay in the middle and is still too honest.

By playing in their 'corners' more it allows us to be much more dangerous imo. We needed more of this earlier in the season but lets look forward. We need a lotta luck to make it this year but with displays like this it makes me more positive for the future. I feel Parky as perhaps reflected and recognised we needed to change our focus.

davies was scary in the way he attacked the ball and the defence can deal with most of whats thrown at them. Thus the centrsal midfield can get forward more.

They were a decent side and had some skillful players which makes the 3 points more fulfilling.

Overall the right attitude for me. We need to fine tune our final pass, and cross and keep playing this way and we will get more wins than losses and draws and more points on the board. if only this could have begun slightly earlier but can we still live in hope??????

PS where were the Second Westers????

IF by some comeback of all comebacks we made the play-offs, don't be coming on here demanding tickets and/or questioning the clubs ticket allocation.....

CITY TILL I DIE my ..........

Great win last night - solid performances all over the pitch, with Jonny Mac a passenger for the majority of the 90.
But lets be realistic, thats the first 3 points we've got at home since Boxing Day ! So lets not get carried away. If we can play like we did last night, in the next 2 homes, and come away with the spoils, then we can have another look at the league - until then, lets not get too carried away, lightning doesn't strike twice does it????

A good night all round for players n fans never give up believeing .well done bantams

dannbradfc wrote:
PS where were the Second Westers???? IF by some comeback of all comebacks we made the play-offs, don't be coming on here demanding tickets and/or questioning the clubs ticket allocation..... CITY TILL I DIE my ..........

Fair point - attendance wasn't announced last night, I just checked on BBC, 8,047. I said before the match, we'd be lucky to get over 9,000.
Its only about 4-5 weeks ago, all that fuss by the thousands of "forgotten" fans, where are they all now. Maybe they've forgotten which team they support, although it was a Corrie night.........

Call me sad but here goes...we are unbeaten home and away in the league this season in midweek games.
P11..W6..D5..PTS23..
.championship winning form in anyone's book!

spleen ventor wrote:
Call me sad but here goes...we are unbeaten home and away in the league this season in midweek games.
P11..W6..D5..PTS23..

.championship winning form in anyone's book!

hello sad:good spot though

I am thrilled to read these posts, the report on BBC suggested we were lucky 2 come away with the win..the above would disagree. However, some results elsewhere did help last night, so we need 3 points saturday, another 3 on Good Friday, another 3 on Easter Monday, failing that, the season, in terms of the play-offs is over..i do not, personally, believe it can be done..so, let them prove me to be wrong...we ALL want promotion

the BBC report suggested that we were lucky to get 3 points..the above tells it different, thats good..other results were of help to the CITY cause last nite-also good. 3 points on Saturday, 3 on Good Friday, 3 on Easter Monday, we ALL want promotion...then we can start telling me i was wrong..i will be thrilled with that..promotion is what we want

Old Peculiar wrote:

dannbradfc wrote: PS where were the Second Westers???? IF by some comeback of all comebacks we made the play-offs, don't be coming on here demanding tickets and/or questioning the clubs ticket allocation..... CITY TILL I DIE my ..........

Fair point - attendance wasn't announced last night, I just checked on BBC, 8,047. I said before the match, we'd be lucky to get over 9,000. Its only about 4-5 weeks ago, all that fuss by the thousands of "forgotten" fans, where are they all now. Maybe they've forgotten which team they support, although it was a Corrie night.........

The "forgotten" fans make me sick. And to think I wasted my time slogging it out with them pre-Wembley.

Very pleased with last nights results, even if we can't make the play-offs, It's nice to see the lads committed to the cause of at least making a go of it. Ravenhill was brillaint, shame he got injured. Well done boys.

Old Peculiar wrote:

dannbradfc wrote: PS where were the Second Westers???? IF by some comeback of all comebacks we made the play-offs, don't be coming on here demanding tickets and/or questioning the clubs ticket allocation..... CITY TILL I DIE my ..........

Fair point - attendance wasn't announced last night, I just checked on BBC, 8,047. I said before the match, we'd be lucky to get over 9,000. Its only about 4-5 weeks ago, all that fuss by the thousands of "forgotten" fans, where are they all now. Maybe they've forgotten which team they support, although it was a Corrie night.........

Corrie's tonight not Tuesday!!!

pudseykid wrote:
the BBC report suggested that we were lucky to get 3 points..the above tells it different, thats good..other results were of help to the CITY cause last nite-also good. 3 points on Saturday, 3 on Good Friday, 3 on Easter Monday, we ALL want promotion...then we can start telling me i was wrong..i will be thrilled with that..promotion is what we want

I wouldn't say we were 'lucky' to get the tree points but I wouldn't say it was a 'great' performance either-'adequate' would be about right. There were SOME bright spots incl. Reid/Hanson/he defence (return of Meredith). To have any chance of getting in etc. though.

To make the play offs City need a 'run (of results) yet every walk or RUN begins with a single step.. forward.

City took that step last night..yet they have done so in the recent past..and it hasn't been sustained.

Can they kep it going this time? Are they on the cusp of a 'roll'? Only time/next few matches will tell but..at least..its going to be fun ..finding out!!

BITE! BITE! BITE! Keep wriggling in my Keepnet! LOL You didn't answer my question,Mr Cheap Season ticket! Many of the forgotten fans were at Plymouth and Exeter cos some of us were lucky enough to get out of Bradford and aim higher! Your argument is pathetic,Xenophobe!

Spoiling for it aren't you? As stated, you have a chip on your shoulder.

Its quite simple, as long as it mathmatically possible for the play-offs, then ofcourse we have a chance.The way we have been playing as of late it does seem unlikely, however i did enjoy my burger at Wembley and wouldnt mind another!

8.047 were was the cheapo season ticket & flexi card holders
I thought we had 10.000 according to Baldwin on the run up fiasco for Wembley tickets

rattusrattus wrote:
BITE! BITE! BITE! Keep wriggling in my Keepnet! LOL You didn't answer my question,Mr Cheap Season ticket! Many of the forgotten fans were at Plymouth and Exeter cos some of us were lucky enough to get out of Bradford and aim higher! Your argument is pathetic,Xenophobe!

I am sorry but if you live in the Plymouth/Exeter area you cant honestly refer to them as higher in standing than Bradford. The word Bomb - use it, comes to mind! Possibly concentrate more on the situation on the field and less on the stands and your level of Football knowledge (and possibly geographical) may improve.

I'm dreaming again. Gonna be a nice few days. Come on lads, take this into the Bristol Rovers game. Go out and love every minute.
Doesn't matter where we come from, where we live now, or whether we can get to every game. City are lumbered with tens of thousands of fans...

Come on Phil get that contact signed!!!

Michael Clayton wrote:

Old Peculiar wrote:

dannbradfc wrote: PS where were the Second Westers???? IF by some comeback of all comebacks we made the play-offs, don't be coming on here demanding tickets and/or questioning the clubs ticket allocation..... CITY TILL I DIE my ..........

Fair point - attendance wasn't announced last night, I just checked on BBC, 8,047. I said before the match, we'd be lucky to get over 9,000. Its only about 4-5 weeks ago, all that fuss by the thousands of "forgotten" fans, where are they all now. Maybe they've forgotten which team they support, although it was a Corrie night.........

The "forgotten" fans make me sick. And to think I wasted my time slogging it out with them pre-Wembley.

Have you never thought Michael Clayton that some of those fans who were absent last night were disallussioned with recent results. Look at attendances for those teams outside the playoffs or above the relegation zone in any of the leagues and you'll see a drop in their attendances. People must be dillusional if they thought the league attendances were going to be boosted by those floating fans who got to Wembley. Every team who makes it to Wembley suffer the same fate with fans jumping on the band wagon. What would you liked to have seen, the City end packed to the rafters with fans (a sight that I will savour for many a year) or the usual die hard 10000 scattered amongst the seats!. No brainer and the club did everything they could to get a fan a ticket, I have proof of that .

timetobeproud wrote:

rattusrattus wrote:
BITE! BITE! BITE! Keep wriggling in my Keepnet! LOL You didn't answer my question,Mr Cheap Season ticket! Many of the forgotten fans were at Plymouth and Exeter cos some of us were lucky enough to get out of Bradford and aim higher! Your argument is pathetic,Xenophobe!

I am sorry but if you live in the Plymouth/Exeter area you cant honestly refer to them as higher in standing than Bradford. The word Bomb - use it, comes to mind! Possibly concentrate more on the situation on the field and less on the stands and your level of Football knowledge (and possibly geographical) may improve.

Say that in English,please! LOL Also,don't try and tell me that Bradford is a better a place than Plymouth and Exeter as you've clearly never been there! The point i was trying to make was that there's plenty of exiles who follow City on a regular basis and shouldn't be patronisingly referred to as the "Forgotten" fans! Grow up Xenophobe!

timetobeproud wrote:

rattusrattus wrote:
BITE! BITE! BITE! Keep wriggling in my Keepnet! LOL You didn't answer my question,Mr Cheap Season ticket! Many of the forgotten fans were at Plymouth and Exeter cos some of us were lucky enough to get out of Bradford and aim higher! Your argument is pathetic,Xenophobe!

I am sorry but if you live in the Plymouth/Exeter area you cant honestly refer to them as higher in standing than Bradford. The word Bomb - use it, comes to mind! Possibly concentrate more on the situation on the field and less on the stands and your level of Football knowledge (and possibly geographical) may improve.

Rubbish. Went to Exeter for the first time on Saturday, lovely place, very similar to York and worlds ahead of Bradford. Maybe you got it confused with Torquay, which is basically Wakefield with a beach.

Rambo wrote:

timetobeproud wrote:

rattusrattus wrote:
BITE! BITE! BITE! Keep wriggling in my Keepnet! LOL You didn't answer my question,Mr Cheap Season ticket! Many of the forgotten fans were at Plymouth and Exeter cos some of us were lucky enough to get out of Bradford and aim higher! Your argument is pathetic,Xenophobe!

I am sorry but if you live in the Plymouth/Exeter area you cant honestly refer to them as higher in standing than Bradford. The word Bomb - use it, comes to mind! Possibly concentrate more on the situation on the field and less on the stands and your level of Football knowledge (and possibly geographical) may improve.

Rubbish. Went to Exeter for the first time on Saturday, lovely place, very similar to York and worlds ahead of Bradford. Maybe you got it confused with Torquay, which is basically Wakefield with a beach.

Oh dear another Flexicard Clown,who doesn't know what he's talking about! Well said,Rambo!

The crux is the definition of a "forgotten fan". For me, it is one who turned their back many years ago.

The point was being made so as to target the element of spoilt brats who spat their dummies out when they realised that the club was not going to roll the red carpet out for Wembley. By spoilt brats, I am referring to people who would normally have no inclination to attend any other City match.

You are not in that bracket although a decision to move to the south-west may have caused issues in recent months.

To be honest, directing questions regarding my attendance, the reasons for low attendance and the club doing all it could etc are irrelevant and somewhat confusing.

Unfortunately, you exhibit a considerable amount of conceit and all the name calling does nothing to strengthen your credibility.

Slow down, take time to absorb the comments and apply some maturity to your posts.

This is not intended to seem patronising or condescending. I am actually trying to point one or two things out; take it or leave it.

rattusrattus wrote:

Michael Clayton wrote:

Old Peculiar wrote:

dannbradfc wrote: PS where were the Second Westers???? IF by some comeback of all comebacks we made the play-offs, don't be coming on here demanding tickets and/or questioning the clubs ticket allocation..... CITY TILL I DIE my ..........

Fair point - attendance wasn't announced last night, I just checked on BBC, 8,047. I said before the match, we'd be lucky to get over 9,000. Its only about 4-5 weeks ago, all that fuss by the thousands of "forgotten" fans, where are they all now. Maybe they've forgotten which team they support, although it was a Corrie night.........

The "forgotten" fans make me sick. And to think I wasted my time slogging it out with them pre-Wembley.

Still here,Muppet! Where were you at Exeter and Plymouth? Just a thought but what happened to all the Asian Plastics from the Cup run? LOL

What happened to all the Asians? are you serious? erm just to put you in your place, this plastic has been a season ticket holder for many years.

I also try and get to as many away games as i can. So i would ask you to engage you brain before typing such utter rubbish.

To say where are all the asian plastics tells me a couple of things about you. Either you struggled at School or your parents didn't raise you correctly. Never ceases to amaze me the utter stupidity of some posts on here.

god carnt you all just comment on the match last nite and how the 3 points was great and hope we get many more .who cares who goes to the matches hence being black white yellow or green ha.as long as bums on seats and get the support needed to keep the lads going .we live in bradford and support our home team and evan people who dont live in bradford support our team aswell so what if we are not exeter or torquay or plymouth we support bradford city so forget the idiots on here and support the lads. thanks rant over

I love football fans and yet they frustrate the hell out of me and i include myself in that.
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The last few days i've been depressed as hell and not through choice i see a ray of light and i'm nw all positive again!!!
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JUST IMAGINE????

Michael Clayton wrote:
The crux is the definition of a "forgotten fan". For me, it is one who turned their back many years ago.

The point was being made so as to target the element of spoilt brats who spat their dummies out when they realised that the club was not going to roll the red carpet out for Wembley. By spoilt brats, I am referring to people who would normally have no inclination to attend any other City match.

You are not in that bracket although a decision to move to the south-west may have caused issues in recent months.

To be honest, directing questions regarding my attendance, the reasons for low attendance and the club doing all it could etc are irrelevant and somewhat confusing.

Unfortunately, you exhibit a considerable amount of conceit and all the name calling does nothing to strengthen your credibility.

Slow down, take time to absorb the comments and apply some maturity to your posts.

This is not intended to seem patronising or condescending. I am actually trying to point one or two things out; take it or leave it.

Who said i live in the South West? Slow down and keep absorbing! Bite! Bite! He He

rattusrattus wrote:
BITE! BITE! BITE! Keep wriggling in my Keepnet! LOL You didn't answer my question,Mr Cheap Season ticket! Many of the forgotten fans were at Plymouth and Exeter cos some of us were lucky enough to get out of Bradford and aim higher! Your argument is pathetic,Xenophobe!

Many of them; 300: that is less than 1% of the Wembley take up.

Also, many of them are season ticket holders, I would say out of the 'loyal' support that are not actually ST holders there will have been you and about a dozen more, giving funds to our rivals.

rattusrattus wrote:
BITE! BITE! BITE! Keep wriggling in my Keepnet! LOL You didn't answer my question,Mr Cheap Season ticket! Many of the forgotten fans were at Plymouth and Exeter cos some of us were lucky enough to get out of Bradford and aim higher! Your argument is pathetic,Xenophobe!

Didn't you just raise the point about 'asian palstics' then have the temerity to call someone a xenophobe. A word you have used before and have no understanding of, just add it to the end of a sentence as an insult.

If my credibilty was as low as yours I'd make sure my profile was even lower not continue to make a t*t of mesen

Anyway,on a Positive note! That was a welcome 3 points at home,just need to back it up with another 2 wins and you never know? The missing 20k,might return! He He

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:

rattusrattus wrote:
BITE! BITE! BITE! Keep wriggling in my Keepnet! LOL You didn't answer my question,Mr Cheap Season ticket! Many of the forgotten fans were at Plymouth and Exeter cos some of us were lucky enough to get out of Bradford and aim higher! Your argument is pathetic,Xenophobe!

Didn't you just raise the point about 'asian palstics' then have the temerity to call someone a xenophobe. A word you have used before and have no understanding of, just add it to the end of a sentence as an insult.

If my credibilty was as low as yours I'd make sure my profile was even lower not continue to make a t*t of mesen

You are the definition of the word "Xenophobe" as you think people who don't have a season ticket aren't worthy of following Bradford City! Keep Digging!

Personally I thought it was a gritty but deserved win last night. We showed at times a bit more umpth when pushing forward although we couldn't sustain it for long periods, they were times though you could see what we can do. Thought Thompson played very well and was my mom, a player who disappointed in early season but is now coming into form. How Hanson can't get free kicks when constantly pulled pushed etc is beyond me, when he **** near their centre halves he concedes free kicks but he is constantly fouled against!! We can I believe still dream but let us take one at a time and see where it leaves us. Roll on Saturday :)

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:

rattusrattus wrote:
BITE! BITE! BITE! Keep wriggling in my Keepnet! LOL You didn't answer my question,Mr Cheap Season ticket! Many of the forgotten fans were at Plymouth and Exeter cos some of us were lucky enough to get out of Bradford and aim higher! Your argument is pathetic,Xenophobe!

Many of them; 300: that is less than 1% of the Wembley take up.

Also, many of them are season ticket holders, I would say out of the 'loyal' support that are not actually ST holders there will have been you and about a dozen more, giving funds to our rivals.

Whatever you say,Mr Flexicard! I will follow City as and how i want! I and others don't have to justify ourselves to you,P leb!

rattusrattus wrote:

Michael Clayton wrote: The crux is the definition of a "forgotten fan". For me, it is one who turned their back many years ago. The point was being made so as to target the element of spoilt brats who spat their dummies out when they realised that the club was not going to roll the red carpet out for Wembley. By spoilt brats, I am referring to people who would normally have no inclination to attend any other City match. You are not in that bracket although a decision to move to the south-west may have caused issues in recent months. To be honest, directing questions regarding my attendance, the reasons for low attendance and the club doing all it could etc are irrelevant and somewhat confusing. Unfortunately, you exhibit a considerable amount of conceit and all the name calling does nothing to strengthen your credibility. Slow down, take time to absorb the comments and apply some maturity to your posts. This is not intended to seem patronising or condescending. I am actually trying to point one or two things out; take it or leave it.

Who said i live in the South West? Slow down and keep absorbing! Bite! Bite! He He

Bite? You cannot be serious. You don't have the intelligence to wind a watch up.

Michael Clayton wrote:

rattusrattus wrote:

Michael Clayton wrote: The crux is the definition of a "forgotten fan". For me, it is one who turned their back many years ago. The point was being made so as to target the element of spoilt brats who spat their dummies out when they realised that the club was not going to roll the red carpet out for Wembley. By spoilt brats, I am referring to people who would normally have no inclination to attend any other City match. You are not in that bracket although a decision to move to the south-west may have caused issues in recent months. To be honest, directing questions regarding my attendance, the reasons for low attendance and the club doing all it could etc are irrelevant and somewhat confusing. Unfortunately, you exhibit a considerable amount of conceit and all the name calling does nothing to strengthen your credibility. Slow down, take time to absorb the comments and apply some maturity to your posts. This is not intended to seem patronising or condescending. I am actually trying to point one or two things out; take it or leave it.

Who said i live in the South West? Slow down and keep absorbing! Bite! Bite! He He

Bite? You cannot be serious. You don't have the intelligence to wind a watch up.

The Fact that you keep replying contradicts your comment! Keep wriggling and absorbing,you might learn something! lol

Michael Clayton wrote:

rattusrattus wrote:

Michael Clayton wrote: The crux is the definition of a "forgotten fan". For me, it is one who turned their back many years ago. The point was being made so as to target the element of spoilt brats who spat their dummies out when they realised that the club was not going to roll the red carpet out for Wembley. By spoilt brats, I am referring to people who would normally have no inclination to attend any other City match. You are not in that bracket although a decision to move to the south-west may have caused issues in recent months. To be honest, directing questions regarding my attendance, the reasons for low attendance and the club doing all it could etc are irrelevant and somewhat confusing. Unfortunately, you exhibit a considerable amount of conceit and all the name calling does nothing to strengthen your credibility. Slow down, take time to absorb the comments and apply some maturity to your posts. This is not intended to seem patronising or condescending. I am actually trying to point one or two things out; take it or leave it.

Who said i live in the South West? Slow down and keep absorbing! Bite! Bite! He He

Bite? You cannot be serious. You don't have the intelligence to wind a watch up.

What's wrong with living in the South West ?

Ugly win another six and well make the playoffs and be in form for wembley positive attitude is what we all need. Last nights. Direct approach not pretty but was needed, well done parky a good gritty performance all round

rattusrattus wrote:

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:

rattusrattus wrote:
BITE! BITE! BITE! Keep wriggling in my Keepnet! LOL You didn't answer my question,Mr Cheap Season ticket! Many of the forgotten fans were at Plymouth and Exeter cos some of us were lucky enough to get out of Bradford and aim higher! Your argument is pathetic,Xenophobe!

Many of them; 300: that is less than 1% of the Wembley take up.

Also, many of them are season ticket holders, I would say out of the 'loyal' support that are not actually ST holders there will have been you and about a dozen more, giving funds to our rivals.

Whatever you say,Mr Flexicard! I will follow City as and how i want! I and others don't have to justify ourselves to you,P leb!

Yes, you continue to stay away from VP and line the pockets of our rivals whilst continuing your declaration of undying love for Bradford City.

I really don't care where you go, what you watch or who you support, I am still baffled as to how you think paying gate money to another 4th division club is 'supporting' City. It isn't it is watching them whilst using your funding to support another club.

Please read each word slowly, I know you struggle, eventually they will sink in and you will get there.

rattusrattus wrote:

Michael Clayton wrote:

rattusrattus wrote:

Michael Clayton wrote: The crux is the definition of a "forgotten fan". For me, it is one who turned their back many years ago. The point was being made so as to target the element of spoilt brats who spat their dummies out when they realised that the club was not going to roll the red carpet out for Wembley. By spoilt brats, I am referring to people who would normally have no inclination to attend any other City match. You are not in that bracket although a decision to move to the south-west may have caused issues in recent months. To be honest, directing questions regarding my attendance, the reasons for low attendance and the club doing all it could etc are irrelevant and somewhat confusing. Unfortunately, you exhibit a considerable amount of conceit and all the name calling does nothing to strengthen your credibility. Slow down, take time to absorb the comments and apply some maturity to your posts. This is not intended to seem patronising or condescending. I am actually trying to point one or two things out; take it or leave it.

Who said i live in the South West? Slow down and keep absorbing! Bite! Bite! He He

Bite? You cannot be serious. You don't have the intelligence to wind a watch up.

The Fact that you keep replying contradicts your comment! Keep wriggling and absorbing,you might learn something! lol

I don't give up on sad cases.

rattusrattus wrote:

Michael Clayton wrote:

rattusrattus wrote:

Michael Clayton wrote: The crux is the definition of a "forgotten fan". For me, it is one who turned their back many years ago. The point was being made so as to target the element of spoilt brats who spat their dummies out when they realised that the club was not going to roll the red carpet out for Wembley. By spoilt brats, I am referring to people who would normally have no inclination to attend any other City match. You are not in that bracket although a decision to move to the south-west may have caused issues in recent months. To be honest, directing questions regarding my attendance, the reasons for low attendance and the club doing all it could etc are irrelevant and somewhat confusing. Unfortunately, you exhibit a considerable amount of conceit and all the name calling does nothing to strengthen your credibility. Slow down, take time to absorb the comments and apply some maturity to your posts. This is not intended to seem patronising or condescending. I am actually trying to point one or two things out; take it or leave it.

Who said i live in the South West? Slow down and keep absorbing! Bite! Bite! He He

Bite? You cannot be serious. You don't have the intelligence to wind a watch up.

The Fact that you keep replying contradicts your comment! Keep wriggling and absorbing,you might learn something! lol

You are quite probably everything that is wrong with Bradford City's fan base. I remember reading some of the crap on here prior to Wembely and can only asume it was yourself and other digenerates that know nothing about Football but went to a few Premier League games (or maybe even had a Season ticket) back in the day and call yourself loyal. If you are Loyal to Bradford you are loyal to the team, the City and your fellow fans! Not slag off the guys on here and slag the city. The sooner we get out of this league the better! Less south West games (if any) and less for you to attend!!

Neil.

He described "plastics" and went on to justify absentees who were "disillusioned". There is ambiguity.

The " plastics" reference clouds the issue further.

If you read through the posts, you will see that he is spoiling for it. In fact, He introduced the term "racist". An almighty chip on his shoulder.

Unfortunately, it is idiocy of this nature that gives oxygen to those who play the very "card" that you don't like.

good win and out of the blocks fast for a change!
michael clayton, if he cannot get to valley parade every week so what?
i can never get to an away game due to shifts but go to every home game and usually have just time to get to work or have just got up from bed.
does not make a better fan than rattusrattus.
stop ****.

tinytoonster wrote:
good win and out of the blocks fast for a change! michael clayton, if he cannot get to valley parade every week so what? i can never get to an away game due to shifts but go to every home game and usually have just time to get to work or have just got up from bed. does not make a better fan than rattusrattus. stop ****.

I wish that you (and others like you) would bother to read the posts.

None of what you have referred to reflects anything I have said.

tinytoonster wrote:
good win and out of the blocks fast for a change! michael clayton, if he cannot get to valley parade every week so what? i can never get to an away game due to shifts but go to every home game and usually have just time to get to work or have just got up from bed. does not make a better fan than rattusrattus. stop ****.

What are you talking about? If you bothered to read the posts you would prevent such inaccurate remarks.

Would like to echo my support for a majority of viewpoints that the performance last night was very encouraging and with the possible exception of Ravenhill (injured) Parky should pick the same for Saturday-could I also praise the ref's performance which was the best I have seen at VP this season-he let the game flow for both teams and for once didn't take centre stage-it's not often we can say that this year

dannbradfc wrote:
Thats more like it.

Great energy , commitment and forward momentum last night with us playing further up the pitch, attempting to get to the bye-line etc.

We played the way you need to in division 2. We were more direct when it was needed and generally varied our game more. Yes it invited risk but this was rewaded.

We also got stuck in in what was at times a very competitive and physical game. great spirit and it leaves you wondering why and If only.

Thought Hanson was tremendous in his work rate and was very aggressive.

Reidy was much more like he old self and appeared to have been let of the leash abit and was more motivated to get to the bye-line. This alloweed players to get in the box more. hanson however needs to stay in the middle and is still too honest.

By playing in their 'corners' more it allows us to be much more dangerous imo. We needed more of this earlier in the season but lets look forward. We need a lotta luck to make it this year but with displays like this it makes me more positive for the future. I feel Parky as perhaps reflected and recognised we needed to change our focus.

davies was scary in the way he attacked the ball and the defence can deal with most of whats thrown at them. Thus the centrsal midfield can get forward more.

They were a decent side and had some skillful players which makes the 3 points more fulfilling.

Overall the right attitude for me. We need to fine tune our final pass, and cross and keep playing this way and we will get more wins than losses and draws and more points on the board. if only this could have begun slightly earlier but can we still live in hope??????

I thought the whole team barring the wingers were great in the first half hour. Unfortunately heins passing was poor and Reid crossing. Can't see a problem with Hanson going out wide. Though it pulled them out of position and made space behind. We just need other players to move into that space. Darby proved that he is good enough to get forward as well as Meredith. I was disappointed that we stopped playing any football so early. Ravenhill was especially guilty imo. Horses for courses maybe. But I agree that they were a decent side.

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:

rattusrattus wrote:

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:

rattusrattus wrote:
BITE! BITE! BITE! Keep wriggling in my Keepnet! LOL You didn't answer my question,Mr Cheap Season ticket! Many of the forgotten fans were at Plymouth and Exeter cos some of us were lucky enough to get out of Bradford and aim higher! Your argument is pathetic,Xenophobe!

Many of them; 300: that is less than 1% of the Wembley take up.

Also, many of them are season ticket holders, I would say out of the 'loyal' support that are not actually ST holders there will have been you and about a dozen more, giving funds to our rivals.

Whatever you say,Mr Flexicard! I will follow City as and how i want! I and others don't have to justify ourselves to you,P leb!

Yes, you continue to stay away from VP and line the pockets of our rivals whilst continuing your declaration of undying love for Bradford City.

I really don't care where you go, what you watch or who you support, I am still baffled as to how you think paying gate money to another 4th division club is 'supporting' City. It isn't it is watching them whilst using your funding to support another club.

Please read each word slowly, I know you struggle, eventually they will sink in and you will get there.

going away is called a loyal fan and not a cheapo season flexi cheap skate

I DONT have cheap season ticket or flexi card
but judging by your comments on here I go to more games than99.99%of you know it alls
if you really know footy n go to city home & away you will know we are going to finish mid table YET AGAIN
as only accy Stanley have been in this bottom tier longer than US

belle vue wrote:
I'm dreaming again. Gonna be a nice few days. Come on lads, take this into the Bristol Rovers game. Go out and love every minute.
Doesn't matter where we come from, where we live now, or whether we can get to every game. City are lumbered with tens of thousands of fans...

tens of thousands of fans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!
DREAM ON LAD

Michael Clayton wrote:

Cityboy78 wrote:
I dont get thisnotion that city fans who live away from yorks and mainly go to away games are second class citizens. Since the expansion of VP it has been a millstone around our necks both on and off the field, inspiring visiting teams more than our own players, and to say away fans are lining the pockets of other clubs down south, there is no hesitation for locals selling out away allocations at york and udders etc for derbies, and rightly so. Ive taken loads of non city fans to away matches over the years from west brom, portsmouth, charlton and northampton to a large group to Waalwijk. All of whom have been impressed by our passionate, large and friendly following. Im sure the players appreciate it too. I made my opinion known previously re wembley ticket allocation so will hopefully be quing overnight for my tickets again in may. And yes, i now know about flexi cards thingies but am not going to be pressed into buying something i dont need. Regarding the asian support point, i see what you mean. The positive spin on asian fans pre wembley showed many many asian lads playing five a side etc, saying they were all now City fans whilst wearing Liverpool tops. Im sure they have not and will not set foot inside VP anytime soon however this is much like many non asian wembley fans however they did not get numerous five minute slots on Look North and article space in local and national papers. The question of where are all the asian plastics, is a valid one however badly put, more like where are all the plastic fans. Simply playing (especially so badly) at wembley is not enough to convert day trippers and floaters. and to start with calling people racist as soon as a minority group are mentioned is pointless. The fact of the matter is that floating fans, no matter what race, religion or belief, will not watch a losing team, especially for £20 a pop.

Do you have the statistics to back up the assertion regarding the Asian supporters?

The poster is playing the role of victim e.g. it was he that introduced the term "racist" to this sequence.

Do you understand what I was referring to when I wrote at 5.27?

I dont have any statistics whatsoever, other that the attendance figures which are released by the club. And i cant interpret these accurately as i dont know if this figure takes into account all season tickets sold, or just those that roll through the turnstiles???

What i can tell is that attendances are down over 20% since the cup final, therefore our Wembley showpiece has not retained the many thousands of floaters it initially attracted. One of the criteria stated by ML when releasing tickets was that ST holders would be rewarded for their loyalty with 3 tickets each to allocate to friends, many of whom would be bitten by the BCFC bug, and come to games loyally forever and ever and ever. This assumption was misguided (as i stated immediately) and is proven by recent attendances. ML did however successfully alienate many,many fans who have proven their loyalty over several years (those currently living too far from VP to justify a ST, those suffering in the recession and unable to afford a ST, armed forces personnell etc) in preference to selling tickets using a quick, easy and simple method flogging them by the bucket load to fans who we will never see again.

The trouble is, the loyal (bitter!) suckers like me will continue going to every game possible, home and away, as long as the club crest is etched on my right bicep. I was at VP before the current board/players and will be there long after they have gone.

Like i said, i believe the asian comment was made by whoever as a result of the substantial amount of press coverage asian city fans(?!) got in the build up to the final, and went to wembley. Whether or not the amount of asian wembley attendees who are now gone forever (till the next big game) is a greater proportion to non asians is impossible to tell. I just believe that ML thinking thousands of loyal fans can be immediately made on the strength of a cup final is massively naive. Truely loyal city fans who go to home and away matches through the rare thick, and frequent thin, are a special breed that should be treasured and listerned to. Anybody without a ST or flexi pre wembley was banished and discarded flippantly however we are still here.

A further point is that calling or inferring others on this board are racist xenophobes does not encourage BCFC related discussion, joviality, banter, argument or disagreement. It will merely deteriorate into a Jeremy Kyle style slanging match, and we dont want any of that.

Play nicely or your toys will be taken away,

excellent post echoing many of my thoughts. It as obvious that the Board wanted a sell out of tickets quickly and with the minimum of cost to avoid huge empty Bradford end seats and further, their belief that this would create a whole new wave /generation of supporters to attend each and every game for cash was misguided. It takes time to build up a loyal fan base but that fan base can then still be fickle as evidenced on a cold dank Tuesday night just gone. Clearly those missing season ticket holders that night preferred the warmth of their own homes than turning out to watch what has become a very average mid table team playing a similar average midfield team and a home team with little excitement or quality or even style of play.

excellent post echoing many of my thoughts. It as obvious that the Board wanted a sell out of tickets quickly and with the minimum of cost to avoid huge empty Bradford end seats and further, their belief that this would create a whole new wave /generation of supporters to attend each and every game for cash was misguided. It takes time to build up a loyal fan base but that fan base can then still be fickle as evidenced on a cold dank Tuesday night just gone. Clearly those missing season ticket holders that night preferred the warmth of their own homes than turning out to watch what has become a very average mid table team playing a similar average midfield team and a home team with little excitement or quality or even style of play.

Michael Clayton wrote:

tinytoonster wrote: good win and out of the blocks fast for a change! michael clayton, if he cannot get to valley parade every week so what? i can never get to an away game due to shifts but go to every home game and usually have just time to get to work or have just got up from bed. does not make a better fan than rattusrattus. stop ****.

I wish that you (and others like you) would bother to read the posts. None of what you have referred to reflects anything I have said.

On the defensive again Clayton. Whenever anyone goes against your post this is always your response.

Victor Clayton wrote:

dannbradfc wrote: Thats more like it. Great energy , commitment and forward momentum last night with us playing further up the pitch, attempting to get to the bye-line etc. We played the way you need to in division 2. We were more direct when it was needed and generally varied our game more. Yes it invited risk but this was rewaded. We also got stuck in in what was at times a very competitive and physical game. great spirit and it leaves you wondering why and If only. Thought Hanson was tremendous in his work rate and was very aggressive. Reidy was much more like he old self and appeared to have been let of the leash abit and was more motivated to get to the bye-line. This alloweed players to get in the box more. hanson however needs to stay in the middle and is still too honest. By playing in their 'corners' more it allows us to be much more dangerous imo. We needed more of this earlier in the season but lets look forward. We need a lotta luck to make it this year but with displays like this it makes me more positive for the future. I feel Parky as perhaps reflected and recognised we needed to change our focus. davies was scary in the way he attacked the ball and the defence can deal with most of whats thrown at them. Thus the centrsal midfield can get forward more. They were a decent side and had some skillful players which makes the 3 points more fulfilling. Overall the right attitude for me. We need to fine tune our final pass, and cross and keep playing this way and we will get more wins than losses and draws and more points on the board. if only this could have begun slightly earlier but can we still live in hope??????

I thought the whole team barring the wingers were great in the first half hour. Unfortunately heins passing was poor and Reid crossing. Can't see a problem with Hanson going out wide. Though it pulled them out of position and made space behind. We just need other players to move into that space. Darby proved that he is good enough to get forward as well as Meredith. I was disappointed that we stopped playing any football so early. Ravenhill was especially guilty imo. Horses for courses maybe. But I agree that they were a decent side.

I agree with you that we did 'tail off' but i felt overall that the performance was showing the correct intention.

The quality could have been better but it was the style/method in our play that pleased me more. We mixed it up a little and got the ball quicker into their third.

We need to get behind the oppo. Most of the season we have played in front of the sides we've faced including the wingers. Its been rare to see a run behind the defence without the ball, giving the option to find them in space and in a dangerous position offensively.

Also liked our physicality and will to get stuck in which is also required on occasion in this division.

Still lots of improvement but it was a start for me and something different to the one dimensional/predicta
ble way we have played most of the season......

And a return to normalcy..cheers dann and Vic.

numerouno2 wrote:

Michael Clayton wrote:

tinytoonster wrote: good win and out of the blocks fast for a change! michael clayton, if he cannot get to valley parade every week so what? i can never get to an away game due to shifts but go to every home game and usually have just time to get to work or have just got up from bed. does not make a better fan than rattusrattus. stop ****.

I wish that you (and others like you) would bother to read the posts. None of what you have referred to reflects anything I have said.

On the defensive again Clayton. Whenever anyone goes against your post this is always your response.

How can asking someone to "read the posts" be defensive?

You invented the fallacy that you are not allowed to express an opinion if it goes against the grain.

If that is not being defensive than I really don't know what is.

timetobeproud wrote:

rattusrattus wrote:

Michael Clayton wrote:

rattusrattus wrote:

Michael Clayton wrote: The crux is the definition of a "forgotten fan". For me, it is one who turned their back many years ago. The point was being made so as to target the element of spoilt brats who spat their dummies out when they realised that the club was not going to roll the red carpet out for Wembley. By spoilt brats, I am referring to people who would normally have no inclination to attend any other City match. You are not in that bracket although a decision to move to the south-west may have caused issues in recent months. To be honest, directing questions regarding my attendance, the reasons for low attendance and the club doing all it could etc are irrelevant and somewhat confusing. Unfortunately, you exhibit a considerable amount of conceit and all the name calling does nothing to strengthen your credibility. Slow down, take time to absorb the comments and apply some maturity to your posts. This is not intended to seem patronising or condescending. I am actually trying to point one or two things out; take it or leave it.

Who said i live in the South West? Slow down and keep absorbing! Bite! Bite! He He

Bite? You cannot be serious. You don't have the intelligence to wind a watch up.

The Fact that you keep replying contradicts your comment! Keep wriggling and absorbing,you might learn something! lol

You are quite probably everything that is wrong with Bradford City's fan base. I remember reading some of the crap on here prior to Wembely and can only asume it was yourself and other digenerates that know nothing about Football but went to a few Premier League games (or maybe even had a Season ticket) back in the day and call yourself loyal. If you are Loyal to Bradford you are loyal to the team, the City and your fellow fans! Not slag off the guys on here and slag the city. The sooner we get out of this league the better! Less south West games (if any) and less for you to attend!!

I go to London,Midlands and all Southern away games,also i take in a few home games a season.I know quite alot of other exiles who do the same.Been watching City for over 30+ years and was a season ticket holder for many years whilst i lived in Bradford! So don't be trying to judge me without knowing the facts! I'm not a ST holder or Flexicard member but that doesn't make me any less of a fan! It would be pointless buying either as i wouldn't use them to their full potential. Have to laugh at the fact that someone says i'm funding our rivals when i go to watch City,away. I'm sure that my £15-20 really strengthens them and buy's the league! lol

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:

rattusrattus wrote:

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:

rattusrattus wrote:
BITE! BITE! BITE! Keep wriggling in my Keepnet! LOL You didn't answer my question,Mr Cheap Season ticket! Many of the forgotten fans were at Plymouth and Exeter cos some of us were lucky enough to get out of Bradford and aim higher! Your argument is pathetic,Xenophobe!

Many of them; 300: that is less than 1% of the Wembley take up.

Also, many of them are season ticket holders, I would say out of the 'loyal' support that are not actually ST holders there will have been you and about a dozen more, giving funds to our rivals.

Whatever you say,Mr Flexicard! I will follow City as and how i want! I and others don't have to justify ourselves to you,P leb!

Yes, you continue to stay away from VP and line the pockets of our rivals whilst continuing your declaration of undying love for Bradford City.

I really don't care where you go, what you watch or who you support, I am still baffled as to how you think paying gate money to another 4th division club is 'supporting' City. It isn't it is watching them whilst using your funding to support another club.

Please read each word slowly, I know you struggle, eventually they will sink in and you will get there.

Oh i'm sure my £15-20 gate money goes such a long way! Probably buys our rivals a 25 goal a season striker! Pmsl Please think before you type!

Michael Clayton wrote:

numerouno2 wrote:

Michael Clayton wrote:

tinytoonster wrote: good win and out of the blocks fast for a change! michael clayton, if he cannot get to valley parade every week so what? i can never get to an away game due to shifts but go to every home game and usually have just time to get to work or have just got up from bed. does not make a better fan than rattusrattus. stop ****.

I wish that you (and others like you) would bother to read the posts. None of what you have referred to reflects anything I have said.

On the defensive again Clayton. Whenever anyone goes against your post this is always your response.

How can asking someone to "read the posts" be defensive? You invented the fallacy that you are not allowed to express an opinion if it goes against the grain. If that is not being defensive than I really don't know what is.

AS I have said on many occasions if the post isn't right for you then that person is the victim, the fantasist, the racist, not a true fan etc etc etc. You only ever applaud your own posts.

rattusrattus wrote:

timetobeproud wrote:

rattusrattus wrote:

Michael Clayton wrote:

rattusrattus wrote:

Michael Clayton wrote: The crux is the definition of a "forgotten fan". For me, it is one who turned their back many years ago. The point was being made so as to target the element of spoilt brats who spat their dummies out when they realised that the club was not going to roll the red carpet out for Wembley. By spoilt brats, I am referring to people who would normally have no inclination to attend any other City match. You are not in that bracket although a decision to move to the south-west may have caused issues in recent months. To be honest, directing questions regarding my attendance, the reasons for low attendance and the club doing all it could etc are irrelevant and somewhat confusing. Unfortunately, you exhibit a considerable amount of conceit and all the name calling does nothing to strengthen your credibility. Slow down, take time to absorb the comments and apply some maturity to your posts. This is not intended to seem patronising or condescending. I am actually trying to point one or two things out; take it or leave it.

Who said i live in the South West? Slow down and keep absorbing! Bite! Bite! He He

Bite? You cannot be serious. You don't have the intelligence to wind a watch up.

The Fact that you keep replying contradicts your comment! Keep wriggling and absorbing,you might learn something! lol

You are quite probably everything that is wrong with Bradford City's fan base. I remember reading some of the crap on here prior to Wembely and can only asume it was yourself and other digenerates that know nothing about Football but went to a few Premier League games (or maybe even had a Season ticket) back in the day and call yourself loyal. If you are Loyal to Bradford you are loyal to the team, the City and your fellow fans! Not slag off the guys on here and slag the city. The sooner we get out of this league the better! Less south West games (if any) and less for you to attend!!

I go to London,Midlands and all Southern away games,also i take in a few home games a season.I know quite alot of other exiles who do the same.Been watching City for over 30+ years and was a season ticket holder for many years whilst i lived in Bradford! So don't be trying to judge me without knowing the facts! I'm not a ST holder or Flexicard member but that doesn't make me any less of a fan! It would be pointless buying either as i wouldn't use them to their full potential. Have to laugh at the fact that someone says i'm funding our rivals when i go to watch City,away. I'm sure that my £15-20 really strengthens them and buy's the league! lol

Totally agree. Regardless of whether you are a season ticket holder, flexicard holder or only get the chance to see limited games then we should welcome all fans with open arms, not brand them unloyal or only providing funds to the other clubs. How stupid it works both ways. Those same clubs bring fans to our ground or am I missing something ?.

rattusrattus wrote:

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:

rattusrattus wrote:

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:

rattusrattus wrote:
BITE! BITE! BITE! Keep wriggling in my Keepnet! LOL You didn't answer my question,Mr Cheap Season ticket! Many of the forgotten fans were at Plymouth and Exeter cos some of us were lucky enough to get out of Bradford and aim higher! Your argument is pathetic,Xenophobe!

Many of them; 300: that is less than 1% of the Wembley take up.

Also, many of them are season ticket holders, I would say out of the 'loyal' support that are not actually ST holders there will have been you and about a dozen more, giving funds to our rivals.

Whatever you say,Mr Flexicard! I will follow City as and how i want! I and others don't have to justify ourselves to you,P leb!

Yes, you continue to stay away from VP and line the pockets of our rivals whilst continuing your declaration of undying love for Bradford City.

I really don't care where you go, what you watch or who you support, I am still baffled as to how you think paying gate money to another 4th division club is 'supporting' City. It isn't it is watching them whilst using your funding to support another club.

Please read each word slowly, I know you struggle, eventually they will sink in and you will get there.

Oh i'm sure my £15-20 gate money goes such a long way! Probably buys our rivals a 25 goal a season striker! Pmsl Please think before you type!

There is no point responding to you. Comprehension obviously not a strong point. One penny spent at Club A and not at Club B makes Club A more profitable by 1p, you rarely visit VP by your own admission due to circumstances, fine, therefore you do not contribute to the VP coffers. You do visit the clubs we play at when away thereby making those clubs more profitable by your gate money.

How do clubs afford to buy/pay players wages? They use money received via many marketing streams and matchday income. You add to these revenue streams, our rivals revenue streams. I am not condemning you for this, I am amazed by your stupidity and fact you cannot accept this to be true.

Please don't apply any further thought, you must be running low on the ability to perform auto functions by now.

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:

rattusrattus wrote:

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:

rattusrattus wrote:

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:

rattusrattus wrote:
BITE! BITE! BITE! Keep wriggling in my Keepnet! LOL You didn't answer my question,Mr Cheap Season ticket! Many of the forgotten fans were at Plymouth and Exeter cos some of us were lucky enough to get out of Bradford and aim higher! Your argument is pathetic,Xenophobe!

Many of them; 300: that is less than 1% of the Wembley take up.

Also, many of them are season ticket holders, I would say out of the 'loyal' support that are not actually ST holders there will have been you and about a dozen more, giving funds to our rivals.

Whatever you say,Mr Flexicard! I will follow City as and how i want! I and others don't have to justify ourselves to you,P leb!

Yes, you continue to stay away from VP and line the pockets of our rivals whilst continuing your declaration of undying love for Bradford City.

I really don't care where you go, what you watch or who you support, I am still baffled as to how you think paying gate money to another 4th division club is 'supporting' City. It isn't it is watching them whilst using your funding to support another club.

Please read each word slowly, I know you struggle, eventually they will sink in and you will get there.

Oh i'm sure my £15-20 gate money goes such a long way! Probably buys our rivals a 25 goal a season striker! Pmsl Please think before you type!

There is no point responding to you. Comprehension obviously not a strong point. One penny spent at Club A and not at Club B makes Club A more profitable by 1p, you rarely visit VP by your own admission due to circumstances, fine, therefore you do not contribute to the VP coffers. You do visit the clubs we play at when away thereby making those clubs more profitable by your gate money.

How do clubs afford to buy/pay players wages? They use money received via many marketing streams and matchday income. You add to these revenue streams, our rivals revenue streams. I am not condemning you for this, I am amazed by your stupidity and fact you cannot accept this to be true.

Please don't apply any further thought, you must be running low on the ability to perform auto functions by now.

Another pointless essay from this rocks for brains creature! Your dad should have used a tissue!

As I said, comprehension weak.

Insults, childish.

Points made, of no consequence.

numerouno2 wrote:

Michael Clayton wrote:

numerouno2 wrote:

Michael Clayton wrote:

tinytoonster wrote: good win and out of the blocks fast for a change! michael clayton, if he cannot get to valley parade every week so what? i can never get to an away game due to shifts but go to every home game and usually have just time to get to work or have just got up from bed. does not make a better fan than rattusrattus. stop ****.

I wish that you (and others like you) would bother to read the posts. None of what you have referred to reflects anything I have said.

On the defensive again Clayton. Whenever anyone goes against your post this is always your response.

How can asking someone to "read the posts" be defensive? You invented the fallacy that you are not allowed to express an opinion if it goes against the grain. If that is not being defensive than I really don't know what is.

AS I have said on many occasions if the post isn't right for you then that person is the victim, the fantasist, the racist, not a true fan etc etc etc. You only ever applaud your own posts.

I have to believe in what I am saying. Otherwise, there is no point in logging-on. However, it is simply wrong to suggest that I only ever "applaud" my own posts.

There are many reasoned contributions from people that I may agree or disagree with. People whose opinions may cause me to change my views. That would include something you had to say.

The point is that when our disagreement started, it was you who said that you were prevented from expressing an opinion. Disadvantaged / disenfranchised somehow. Who is the victim there?

Suggesting that I am being defensive when all I am asking if for people to read the posts (the most neutral request imaginable) rather than jump into a debate.

As an example, if you take a few minutes to read this thread, you will see exactly what led to the "racist" reference. In so doing, you will also see that it was not me who actually accused anyone of being racist.

I suggested that the contributor may have a problem with Asian people because the argument he presented was completely at odds with itself.

You will have to go back and read through the exchanges but essentially he was critising "plastics" but justifying their role in filling a stadium. This, to me, is a complete contradiction. The tie-breaker was the use of the term "Asian plastics" in the context stated. What do you think he was trying to imply? I have asked him to explain but all he has contributed is a series of insults (not just in my direction).

Fantasist? You will have to explain.
Not a true fan? Again, please explain.

You need to concentrate on what is being discussed. In a previous comment, you made a remark about having some proof as to the attempts made by the club to make sure everyone had a ticket - "I have proof of that".

You need to bear in mind that someone reading that might not have the faintest idea what you are talking about.

numerouno2 wrote:

rattusrattus wrote:

timetobeproud wrote:

rattusrattus wrote:

Michael Clayton wrote:

rattusrattus wrote:

Michael Clayton wrote: The crux is the definition of a "forgotten fan". For me, it is one who turned their back many years ago. The point was being made so as to target the element of spoilt brats who spat their dummies out when they realised that the club was not going to roll the red carpet out for Wembley. By spoilt brats, I am referring to people who would normally have no inclination to attend any other City match. You are not in that bracket although a decision to move to the south-west may have caused issues in recent months. To be honest, directing questions regarding my attendance, the reasons for low attendance and the club doing all it could etc are irrelevant and somewhat confusing. Unfortunately, you exhibit a considerable amount of conceit and all the name calling does nothing to strengthen your credibility. Slow down, take time to absorb the comments and apply some maturity to your posts. This is not intended to seem patronising or condescending. I am actually trying to point one or two things out; take it or leave it.

Who said i live in the South West? Slow down and keep absorbing! Bite! Bite! He He

Bite? You cannot be serious. You don't have the intelligence to wind a watch up.

The Fact that you keep replying contradicts your comment! Keep wriggling and absorbing,you might learn something! lol

You are quite probably everything that is wrong with Bradford City's fan base. I remember reading some of the crap on here prior to Wembely and can only asume it was yourself and other digenerates that know nothing about Football but went to a few Premier League games (or maybe even had a Season ticket) back in the day and call yourself loyal. If you are Loyal to Bradford you are loyal to the team, the City and your fellow fans! Not slag off the guys on here and slag the city. The sooner we get out of this league the better! Less south West games (if any) and less for you to attend!!

I go to London,Midlands and all Southern away games,also i take in a few home games a season.I know quite alot of other exiles who do the same.Been watching City for over 30+ years and was a season ticket holder for many years whilst i lived in Bradford! So don't be trying to judge me without knowing the facts! I'm not a ST holder or Flexicard member but that doesn't make me any less of a fan! It would be pointless buying either as i wouldn't use them to their full potential. Have to laugh at the fact that someone says i'm funding our rivals when i go to watch City,away. I'm sure that my £15-20 really strengthens them and buy's the league! lol

Totally agree. Regardless of whether you are a season ticket holder, flexicard holder or only get the chance to see limited games then we should welcome all fans with open arms, not brand them unloyal or only providing funds to the other clubs. How stupid it works both ways. Those same clubs bring fans to our ground or am I missing something ?.

Who is branding as unloyal?

Michael Clayton wrote:

numerouno2 wrote:

Michael Clayton wrote:

numerouno2 wrote:

Michael Clayton wrote:

tinytoonster wrote: good win and out of the blocks fast for a change! michael clayton, if he cannot get to valley parade every week so what? i can never get to an away game due to shifts but go to every home game and usually have just time to get to work or have just got up from bed. does not make a better fan than rattusrattus. stop ****.

I wish that you (and others like you) would bother to read the posts. None of what you have referred to reflects anything I have said.

On the defensive again Clayton. Whenever anyone goes against your post this is always your response.

How can asking someone to "read the posts" be defensive? You invented the fallacy that you are not allowed to express an opinion if it goes against the grain. If that is not being defensive than I really don't know what is.

AS I have said on many occasions if the post isn't right for you then that person is the victim, the fantasist, the racist, not a true fan etc etc etc. You only ever applaud your own posts.

I have to believe in what I am saying. Otherwise, there is no point in logging-on. However, it is simply wrong to suggest that I only ever "applaud" my own posts. There are many reasoned contributions from people that I may agree or disagree with. People whose opinions may cause me to change my views. That would include something you had to say. The point is that when our disagreement started, it was you who said that you were prevented from expressing an opinion. Disadvantaged / disenfranchised somehow. Who is the victim there? Suggesting that I am being defensive when all I am asking if for people to read the posts (the most neutral request imaginable) rather than jump into a debate. As an example, if you take a few minutes to read this thread, you will see exactly what led to the "racist" reference. In so doing, you will also see that it was not me who actually accused anyone of being racist. I suggested that the contributor may have a problem with Asian people because the argument he presented was completely at odds with itself. You will have to go back and read through the exchanges but essentially he was critising "plastics" but justifying their role in filling a stadium. This, to me, is a complete contradiction. The tie-breaker was the use of the term "Asian plastics" in the context stated. What do you think he was trying to imply? I have asked him to explain but all he has contributed is a series of insults (not just in my direction). Fantasist? You will have to explain. Not a true fan? Again, please explain. You need to concentrate on what is being discussed. In a previous comment, you made a remark about having some proof as to the attempts made by the club to make sure everyone had a ticket - "I have proof of that". You need to bear in mind that someone reading that might not have the faintest idea what you are talking about.

Why do you always want people to justify what they say with hard core evidence. Some things have to be treated as confidential and therefore that person would not be in a position to divulge the facts to an open audience hence why I haven't elaborated on the "proof". Trust me I have great admiration for those connected to the club for what they did to ensure certain people could get tickets fot the big occasion. Most other clubs would have disregarded most fans and would have given a carte blanche "tough" if they couldn't have got a ticket under the scheme proposed by the club. Sometimes you have to step back and stop being the big I am and accept what other people say. I will agree on one thing though the tone of the posters reply was out of order.

Do you actually read the posts on here?

I was simply asking you what relevance your comments about tickets had.

I am not asking for documentary proof.

How can I (or anyone) "accept" (or otherwise) what you are saying if they have no idea as to what you are talking about?

It strikes me that you are living in a world of your own and do not have the ability to absorb any information.

Nor do you seem capable of answering a simple question without taking offence.

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
And a return to normalcy..cheers dann and Vic.

What! Those 2 season ticket holding, Wembley going know it all knob heads! ha ha

Victor Clayton wrote:

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote:
And a return to normalcy..cheers dann and Vic.

What! Those 2 season ticket holding, Wembley going know it all knob heads! ha ha

didn't last reet long though did it? Sheesh.

I am withdrawing my interest due to the stupidity on display. So, for that reason I'm out.

rattusrattus wrote:

timetobeproud wrote:

rattusrattus wrote:

Michael Clayton wrote:

rattusrattus wrote:

Michael Clayton wrote: The crux is the definition of a "forgotten fan". For me, it is one who turned their back many years ago. The point was being made so as to target the element of spoilt brats who spat their dummies out when they realised that the club was not going to roll the red carpet out for Wembley. By spoilt brats, I am referring to people who would normally have no inclination to attend any other City match. You are not in that bracket although a decision to move to the south-west may have caused issues in recent months. To be honest, directing questions regarding my attendance, the reasons for low attendance and the club doing all it could etc are irrelevant and somewhat confusing. Unfortunately, you exhibit a considerable amount of conceit and all the name calling does nothing to strengthen your credibility. Slow down, take time to absorb the comments and apply some maturity to your posts. This is not intended to seem patronising or condescending. I am actually trying to point one or two things out; take it or leave it.

Who said i live in the South West? Slow down and keep absorbing! Bite! Bite! He He

Bite? You cannot be serious. You don't have the intelligence to wind a watch up.

The Fact that you keep replying contradicts your comment! Keep wriggling and absorbing,you might learn something! lol

You are quite probably everything that is wrong with Bradford City's fan base. I remember reading some of the crap on here prior to Wembely and can only asume it was yourself and other digenerates that know nothing about Football but went to a few Premier League games (or maybe even had a Season ticket) back in the day and call yourself loyal. If you are Loyal to Bradford you are loyal to the team, the City and your fellow fans! Not slag off the guys on here and slag the city. The sooner we get out of this league the better! Less south West games (if any) and less for you to attend!!

I go to London,Midlands and all Southern away games,also i take in a few home games a season.I know quite alot of other exiles who do the same.Been watching City for over 30+ years and was a season ticket holder for many years whilst i lived in Bradford! So don't be trying to judge me without knowing the facts! I'm not a ST holder or Flexicard member but that doesn't make me any less of a fan! It would be pointless buying either as i wouldn't use them to their full potential. Have to laugh at the fact that someone says i'm funding our rivals when i go to watch City,away. I'm sure that my £15-20 really strengthens them and buy's the league! lol

Jump in my keep net pal

timetobeproud wrote:

rattusrattus wrote:

timetobeproud wrote:

rattusrattus wrote:

Michael Clayton wrote:

rattusrattus wrote:

Michael Clayton wrote: The crux is the definition of a "forgotten fan". For me, it is one who turned their back many years ago. The point was being made so as to target the element of spoilt brats who spat their dummies out when they realised that the club was not going to roll the red carpet out for Wembley. By spoilt brats, I am referring to people who would normally have no inclination to attend any other City match. You are not in that bracket although a decision to move to the south-west may have caused issues in recent months. To be honest, directing questions regarding my attendance, the reasons for low attendance and the club doing all it could etc are irrelevant and somewhat confusing. Unfortunately, you exhibit a considerable amount of conceit and all the name calling does nothing to strengthen your credibility. Slow down, take time to absorb the comments and apply some maturity to your posts. This is not intended to seem patronising or condescending. I am actually trying to point one or two things out; take it or leave it.

Who said i live in the South West? Slow down and keep absorbing! Bite! Bite! He He

Bite? You cannot be serious. You don't have the intelligence to wind a watch up.

The Fact that you keep replying contradicts your comment! Keep wriggling and absorbing,you might learn something! lol

You are quite probably everything that is wrong with Bradford City's fan base. I remember reading some of the crap on here prior to Wembely and can only asume it was yourself and other digenerates that know nothing about Football but went to a few Premier League games (or maybe even had a Season ticket) back in the day and call yourself loyal. If you are Loyal to Bradford you are loyal to the team, the City and your fellow fans! Not slag off the guys on here and slag the city. The sooner we get out of this league the better! Less south West games (if any) and less for you to attend!!

I go to London,Midlands and all Southern away games,also i take in a few home games a season.I know quite alot of other exiles who do the same.Been watching City for over 30+ years and was a season ticket holder for many years whilst i lived in Bradford! So don't be trying to judge me without knowing the facts! I'm not a ST holder or Flexicard member but that doesn't make me any less of a fan! It would be pointless buying either as i wouldn't use them to their full potential. Have to laugh at the fact that someone says i'm funding our rivals when i go to watch City,away. I'm sure that my £15-20 really strengthens them and buy's the league! lol

Jump in my keep net pal

your not funding rivals at all mate
these so called loyal cheapo season ticket n flexi fans don't even go to away games but still think they are above anyone
SO LET IT GO OVER YOUR HEAD MATE
cos they are just £7 a game band waggoners
WHO WOULDNT EVEN GO TO CITY IF THEY DIDNT HAVE A SCROUNGERS CHEAPO TICKET

bantam59 wrote:

timetobeproud wrote:

rattusrattus wrote:

timetobeproud wrote:

rattusrattus wrote:

Michael Clayton wrote:

rattusrattus wrote:

Michael Clayton wrote: The crux is the definition of a "forgotten fan". For me, it is one who turned their back many years ago. The point was being made so as to target the element of spoilt brats who spat their dummies out when they realised that the club was not going to roll the red carpet out for Wembley. By spoilt brats, I am referring to people who would normally have no inclination to attend any other City match. You are not in that bracket although a decision to move to the south-west may have caused issues in recent months. To be honest, directing questions regarding my attendance, the reasons for low attendance and the club doing all it could etc are irrelevant and somewhat confusing. Unfortunately, you exhibit a considerable amount of conceit and all the name calling does nothing to strengthen your credibility. Slow down, take time to absorb the comments and apply some maturity to your posts. This is not intended to seem patronising or condescending. I am actually trying to point one or two things out; take it or leave it.

Who said i live in the South West? Slow down and keep absorbing! Bite! Bite! He He

Bite? You cannot be serious. You don't have the intelligence to wind a watch up.

The Fact that you keep replying contradicts your comment! Keep wriggling and absorbing,you might learn something! lol

You are quite probably everything that is wrong with Bradford City's fan base. I remember reading some of the crap on here prior to Wembely and can only asume it was yourself and other digenerates that know nothing about Football but went to a few Premier League games (or maybe even had a Season ticket) back in the day and call yourself loyal. If you are Loyal to Bradford you are loyal to the team, the City and your fellow fans! Not slag off the guys on here and slag the city. The sooner we get out of this league the better! Less south West games (if any) and less for you to attend!!

I go to London,Midlands and all Southern away games,also i take in a few home games a season.I know quite alot of other exiles who do the same.Been watching City for over 30+ years and was a season ticket holder for many years whilst i lived in Bradford! So don't be trying to judge me without knowing the facts! I'm not a ST holder or Flexicard member but that doesn't make me any less of a fan! It would be pointless buying either as i wouldn't use them to their full potential. Have to laugh at the fact that someone says i'm funding our rivals when i go to watch City,away. I'm sure that my £15-20 really strengthens them and buy's the league! lol

Jump in my keep net pal

your not funding rivals at all mate these so called loyal cheapo season ticket n flexi fans don't even go to away games but still think they are above anyone SO LET IT GO OVER YOUR HEAD MATE cos they are just £7 a game band waggoners WHO WOULDNT EVEN GO TO CITY IF THEY DIDNT HAVE A SCROUNGERS CHEAPO TICKET

bantam59

I noted from an earlier post that you go to lots of matches (home and away). Fair play to you for that.

There are a couple of things that I would like to ask you.

Firstly, why do you pay top dollar (I assume that is £20.00) per home match when you had the option of paying less than that?

Secondly, at the start of the season, were you not a little bit worried that having no form of membership might cause you problems if we ever got to Wembley (obviously, we assumed this would be through the play-offs)?

To make it clear, I am just trying to identify with your situation.

yes mate I do follow city every where
ive only missed arsenal this season
( due to a leg injury ) and my 2 sons are season ticket holders so Wembley was sorted
and yes I do pay top doller every game £25 in bantams bar
ive actually got a flexi for next season so £15 in bantams bar
and yes it would be wise to invest in a season ticket
don't ask me why but maybe season after

bantam59 wrote:
yes mate I do follow city every where ive only missed arsenal this season ( due to a leg injury ) and my 2 sons are season ticket holders so Wembley was sorted and yes I do pay top doller every game £25 in bantams bar ive actually got a flexi for next season so £15 in bantams bar and yes it would be wise to invest in a season ticket don't ask me why but maybe season after

Thanks!

You just out to wind up bantam59. Just to let you know they is no planned 50/50 next season so not sure what you have bought or where

macca1969 wrote:
You just out to wind up bantam59. Just to let you know they is no planned 50/50 next season so not sure what you have bought or where

There was no intention to wind him up. If you read (above) you will see that I thanked him.

Michael Clayton wrote:

macca1969 wrote:
You just out to wind up bantam59. Just to let you know they is no planned 50/50 next season so not sure what you have bought or where

There was no intention to wind him up. If you read (above) you will see that I thanked him.

Badly worded meant was bantam59 winding you up. He can't have bought a 50/50 for next season as we are not selling them. Sounds like he is bulling a lot to me to wind you all up.

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I guess having attended only 2 matches 11 May 1985 & 24 February 2013 I’d be labelled a ‘Forgotten Fan’ However before judging people try walking a mile in their shoes and you may understand why. I supported BCFC boy and man from 1966 (when half the team were paid a pittance, lived locally and had another job) until the horrendous day of the fire. I was in the stand only a few rows away from where it started (still have the ticket from the match) I even ended up in the back by the locked doors where many lives were lost but for some miraculous reason my survival instinct managed to save me. After the trauma of the event I couldn’t bring myself to go to another match. My reason for going to Wembley was to witness an achievement and help me eradicate the bad memories, to have been involved in the flag waving standing ovation in the 2nd half in memory of the 56 was a moving experience, it helping me turn sad memories into joyous ones, albeit I’ll never forget. I am sure there are many others on the day that just wanted to be there to savour the occasion and for once be proud to be a Bradfordian. Just because they don’t follow every match doesn’t warrant them being labelled. I have fallen out of love with the game, disillusioned by it becoming a business whereby results and success is more about how much money is invested. You are lucky if a couple of the players reside in your Town / City and many are only in it for the money (I accept not so much in the lower leagues though). Because of this I for one will probably continue to be a ‘Fairweather Fan’ cherry picking future games. If I do go, it would more likely to be because it’s a reason to celebrate Bradfordness (if there is such a word). Many people are struggling to make ends meet which means making choices and spending money attending a match may be the difference between putting food on the table or not. I am certain if the results improve the people will consider it’s better value and the attendances will rise. My advice is concentrate all your energy on the terraces and avoid being antagonistic non righteous fans. Good luck to BCFC and ‘ALL’ who follow them in whichever way they choose.

Oops!! I mean 'self 'righteous fans