Parkinson plots Reading-style future for Bradford City (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus)

Exellent news get it signed PP!!!

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Quote : " Parkinson said: “It’s been a long week with being in Devon but we’re getting close (to signing the new contract) and hopefully that will be sorted in the next few days. Then we can all plan for the rest of the season and on to next year."
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Delighted to read this quote from 'Parky'. He is the Manager to achieve progress with Bradford City. He deserves success for his efforts to date.
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The money earned in this Seasons league cup . The introduction of the players he has wanted. He has turned around Bradford City's situation ; from threats of relegation--to an unprecedented League Cup Final. To the slim chance of a 'Play-Off' position.
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'Parky' deserves his new contract. He deserves success. He deserves to use the League Cup revenue to further improve The Squad in the Closed Season.
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Bradford City have a quality Manager.
It would be totally foolhardy and ridiculous to even think of obtaining ANOTHER Manager.!.
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At last Bradford City have hope, and are beginning to recover, progress,improve, develop,move forward and give every person the belief in The Club.
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THANK YOU --MR. PHIL PARKINSON
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Forget everything else and we all know what he has done for the club but you can't deny that our current form since Christmas is relegation form. Not a good platform to build on for next year.

This is fantastic news and I hope he signs for 3yrs. he is the best manager we have had for many moons and he has brought stability to the club and brought in quality players. He has also created history for the club by taking the club to a major cup final at Wembley plus (correct me if i'm wrong) we may hold the world record for winnining the most penalty shoot-outs in a row (10) Plus we are not out of the running for the play-offs YET! My neice in Maryland, has been telling me that the whole of the USA are talking about our exploits. A very big thank you to you Mr Parkinson. We are all right behind you.

Good news, despite the recent results and probably not getting promoted this year we're moving forward, in a better position than last year and hopefully have stopped the constant change in managers.

Rome wasn't built in a day and all that, and after 12 years of wrong decisions, administration, 10+ managers, players who didn't care were finally in a stable position with a core squad of players who can get us up (next year with a few additions!!)

numerouno2 wrote:
Forget everything else and we all know what he has done for the club but you can't deny that our current form since Christmas is relegation form. Not a good platform to build on for next year.

Why are you so negative? During this season, half the squad have suffered long term injuries and we have had to bring in loan players to cover for them. Yes the cup runs have affected our league performance. But you say it's not a good platform to build on? We have 9 games left and there is still that possible chance of the p/offs. You also say forget the league cup run? This season will remain in every City fans memory til they die. Let's see what your thoughts are if we do by some miracle get into the play-offs.

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I have been theorizing on the remaining League Fixture List.
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I agree the next 3 Home matches are crucial cup finals!.
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But look at the following very tough matches yet to play:-

Sat 13 Chesterfield
Away
Tue 16 Rotherham
Home
Sat 20 Burton Albion
Home
Sat 27 Cheltenham
Away
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These are the Clubs ABOVE City --to date.
All, of which are trying to get Promotion and 'Play-Offs'.
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Could City take points off them ??.
If City could achieve these 4 Cup Finals--and get favorable results. Then the very slim chance of 'Play-Offs'--would be very close to reality
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So get results in the next 3 Homes. Get results from the last 4 Matches.
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IT'S A POSSIBLE !!!!
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ALEXIMO.56. says...
8:29am Mon 18 Mar 13
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Totally agree our comments.

I think --numerouno2 says...
8:15am Mon 18 Mar 13--is suffering badly from that Monday Morning depressive feeling!!!

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Hi Gents

Great news to start the week...
Now he has time to build for next season.


Yours


Gentlemanbob

We couldnt beat exeter or plymouth, nor aldershot...league 2 next season...stop dreaming! against exeter he had a plan..didnt work..changed it..same result..Plays offs...forget it! unless U expect us to win ALL the remaining games..i dont, based on what i say on saturday..i remain saddened for the faithful who do travel every away game, they are the 1s who deserve better than what they witnessed on saturday...painful..
and for a great city that ground is such a dump..our fans deserve better than this...

Did you say stop dreaming? We dared to dream at the Wigan game and kept dreaming and look where our dreams landed us. WEMBLEY. We still have a chance of reaching the play-offs and until that fat $lag starts sing ing, the new dream is still alive. That's what dreams are made of m8.

Although recent results have been disappointing and the lack of creative attacking play, this is the right call for the club. We have to stop this manager merry-go-round madness. The directors have to help PP to strengthen the team. We will lose some players like Davies although we haven't had him much anyway and we are fairly strong there. A quality creative midfielder a decent goal scoring striker and two new keepers will change this team no end. Next year with parky we will be going up as CHAMPIONS

ALEXIMO.56. wrote:

numerouno2 wrote:
Forget everything else and we all know what he has done for the club but you can't deny that our current form since Christmas is relegation form. Not a good platform to build on for next year.

Why are you so negative? During this season, half the squad have suffered long term injuries and we have had to bring in loan players to cover for them. Yes the cup runs have affected our league performance. But you say it's not a good platform to build on? We have 9 games left and there is still that possible chance of the p/offs. You also say forget the league cup run? This season will remain in every City fans memory til they die. Let's see what your thoughts are if we do by some miracle get into the play-offs.

PLAY OFFS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DREAM ON ALEXIMO
if you know owt about footy you should know its mid table again

Following Bradford City is like learning a marshall art. It takes a great deal of dedication and discipline, the pain is immense, but the rewards are incredible and it turns normal supporters into true football fans.
I am now looking back to our great cup run of the 1970s when we reached the quarter finals. It was the season after that we won promotion(just).
I hope Parky signs, he has brought a great deal of stability to the club. The players respect him, potential recruits we need to get us out of this league now know what we and he is all about.

Anyway it doesn't matter what league we are in, there are always those who are going to complain and moan. Even if we won the champions league there would be those moaning about having their bottle tops taken off them when buying a drink at the ground.

pudseykid wrote:
We couldnt beat exeter or plymouth, nor aldershot...league 2 next season...stop dreaming! against exeter he had a plan..didnt work..changed it..same result..Plays offs...forget it! unless U expect us to win ALL the remaining games..i dont, based on what i say on saturday..i remain saddened for the faithful who do travel every away game, they are the 1s who deserve better than what they witnessed on saturday...painful.. and for a great city that ground is such a dump..our fans deserve better than this...

All fans deserve better. So you'll just have to join the queue. Exeter, Plymouth, Accrington, Oxford, York etc. etc. all deserve better. That's what they say.

Great news to start the week....Rome wasn't built in a day and when it was it was built to last! Despite the league position we have had one hell of a season, thanks Mr Parkinson and Team.

bantam59 wrote:

ALEXIMO.56. wrote:

numerouno2 wrote: Forget everything else and we all know what he has done for the club but you can't deny that our current form since Christmas is relegation form. Not a good platform to build on for next year.

Why are you so negative? During this season, half the squad have suffered long term injuries and we have had to bring in loan players to cover for them. Yes the cup runs have affected our league performance. But you say it's not a good platform to build on? We have 9 games left and there is still that possible chance of the p/offs. You also say forget the league cup run? This season will remain in every City fans memory til they die. Let's see what your thoughts are if we do by some miracle get into the play-offs.

PLAY OFFS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DREAM ON ALEXIMO if you know owt about footy you should know its mid table again

Another hard season whoever the manager is.

ALEXIMO.56. wrote:
Did you say stop dreaming? We dared to dream at the Wigan game and kept dreaming and look where our dreams landed us. WEMBLEY. We still have a chance of reaching the play-offs and until that fat $lag starts sing ing, the new dream is still alive. That's what dreams are made of m8.

Pudseykid has a point and the one that most posters are missing is that there are teams above us who are closer to the playoffs. Yes it isn't over until the mathematics say so but there are 3 teams who are only 6 points outside the play offs and have a better chance of making it than us.

NOTE TO "SIMON PARKER"
Could you ask the 2 Chairman how much MONEY "deadbeat" will have for next season after the HUGE "Cash windfall of the Cup"???.
Rumour has it The MONEY has evaporated QUICKER than "Nahki Wells's" FORM!!.

ALEXIMO.56. wrote:

numerouno2 wrote: Forget everything else and we all know what he has done for the club but you can't deny that our current form since Christmas is relegation form. Not a good platform to build on for next year.

Why are you so negative? During this season, half the squad have suffered long term injuries and we have had to bring in loan players to cover for them. Yes the cup runs have affected our league performance. But you say it's not a good platform to build on? We have 9 games left and there is still that possible chance of the p/offs. You also say forget the league cup run? This season will remain in every City fans memory til they die. Let's see what your thoughts are if we do by some miracle get into the play-offs.

If you look on any of my previous posts I have admiration for what Parkinson did in the name of the football club by getting to Wembley but that was a fantastic bonus. All I'm trying to point out is the current league form of the team and that is what his bread & butter is. We need to get out of this league and on current form that is a long way off. It's well known that how you end a season has an affect on how it starts. Call it what you like Aleximo but it's honest, factual opinion.

bravo to "numero2"...getting promoted is at present a long way off...and this is our bread and butter..yes we want to be out of this league...yes we want success..yes we did sing on Saturday...we did cheer...football is about results...and IF (and i mean if) the "windfall" has already been spent then i dont see how this team can get out of this league with these players and this manager...IF it HASNT been spent and we bring in 3-4 players we will hopefully get promoted in 2013-14, but this season is unlikely

pudseykid wrote:
bravo to "numero2"...get
ting promoted is at present a long way off...and this is our bread and butter..yes we want to be out of this league...yes we want success..yes we did sing on Saturday...we did cheer...football is about results...and IF (and i mean if) the "windfall" has already been spent then i dont see how this team can get out of this league with these players and this manager...IF it HASNT been spent and we bring in 3-4 players we will hopefully get promoted in 2013-14, but this season is unlikely

I just been on the city website, and for me i am reckoning no more than 15 points from the remaining games...thats not enough..if the team are good enough/if the manager is good enough for a promotion push this year...CAN they please prove it...IN MY JOB, i dont get paid to fail.

shaun from richmond wrote:
NOTE TO "SIMON PARKER"
Could you ask the 2 Chairman how much MONEY "deadbeat" will have for next season after the HUGE "Cash windfall of the Cup"???.
Rumour has it The MONEY has evaporated QUICKER than "Nahki Wells's" FORM!!.

LOL BUT SO TRUE

You miserable lot yes you negative ones we have every chance for the play offs! No pressure now everyone thinks we have blown it but you never know as its a funny old game ask Wigan arsenal and Aston villa.even if we don't make it this time WHAT A MEMERABLE SEASON. Get signed up parky and finish what you have started even if its next season

So much negativity from a lot of fans. Understandable given our league form during the second half of the season. But lets be fair, our historic cup run was a massive distraction. Welcome or otherwise.
I don't understand the logic when people say we don't have solid foundation on which to build for next season given the fact we finished 18th last term and many fans (including myself) believed promotion was a realistic aim for this season.So given the improved standing of the club in terms of financial stability why shouldn't we be more hopeful than ever as we look to the future?
This is Parky's first full campaign with us, and while facing another season in this division is disappointing I don't think the season can be dismissed as unsuccessful.

essess wrote:
You miserable lot yes you negative ones we have every chance for the play offs! No pressure now everyone thinks we have blown it but you never know as its a funny old game ask Wigan arsenal and Aston villa.even if we don't make it this time WHAT A MEMERABLE SEASON. Get signed up parky and finish what you have started even if its next season

We are sat in 12th place, why are you discarding Chesterfield in 11th, Oxford in 10th, Fleetwood in 9th and Southend in 8th ?. Do these teams not have every chance of making the play offs?

Perhaps we could have some explanation from the rose tinted glasses brigade as to why any critical analysis of the team's performances is perceived as negative?

If being a fan is to maintain a delusional optimism in the face of hard statistics, then we seem to have quite a few fans.

The current management team have been applauded by many posters for their improvements to the club and these are easily seen when we remember the Taylor regime. However, it's not negative to suggest that while discipline, defence, organisation and commitment have been excellent features of this season, the shortcomings are still evident to any observer. We are not in the position of winning games even when we boss possession. 1.5 goals per game is no basis for promotion and if we had an attacking mid-field player who ever ran at a defence to create space for forwards, it would be the first. We play possession and square passes in mid-field to wide players who are now sussed, despite Reid's welcome return to form in the second half on Saturday.

It is fair to offer criticisms of actual tactics, decisions, selection and strategies. In this respect there are more questions to be answered by the current management. With the budget we have had, notwithstanding the demand placed on players by the cup run and the unbelievable injuries, we are not really in contention for promotion, despite the die hards who seem to think that the prime requirement of being a fan is to engage in adulation.

Ambitous talk from PP on the back of recent form. He will have to discard his defencive ways if we are to make any progress in future seasons. The way in which he talks about the constant crosses gained makes you feel City are one dimentional. Exeter cut us straight through the middle on saturday and it would be so rewarding to see City do the same. If we are going to move up the leugues, the following has to happen. Defence needs to be stronger, we are giving away goals from stupid mistakes as apose to solid oppostition play. Duke has to go, though he had a great cup run, he is far to inconsitant (just remember Matt clarke and walsh). Jones is at least a yard slow everytime and is losing possesion at least 60% of the time. 4-4-2 is DEFENSIVE! PP needs to cut that out! nothing wrong with hammering it down the sides but we need to striking force to pick it up, and finanlly and the most obvious is that we must hold possession for longer parts of the game, to LUMP ball forward is Sunday leugue. We never did it agaisnt Arsenal so what makes Exeter or Plymouth or Wycombe tomorrow differant?? Rhodes, Lawn, USE THE MONEY wisely!

cormon wrote:
Perhaps we could have some explanation from the rose tinted glasses brigade as to why any critical analysis of the team's performances is perceived as negative? If being a fan is to maintain a delusional optimism in the face of hard statistics, then we seem to have quite a few fans. The current management team have been applauded by many posters for their improvements to the club and these are easily seen when we remember the Taylor regime. However, it's not negative to suggest that while discipline, defence, organisation and commitment have been excellent features of this season, the shortcomings are still evident to any observer. We are not in the position of winning games even when we boss possession. 1.5 goals per game is no basis for promotion and if we had an attacking mid-field player who ever ran at a defence to create space for forwards, it would be the first. We play possession and square passes in mid-field to wide players who are now sussed, despite Reid's welcome return to form in the second half on Saturday. It is fair to offer criticisms of actual tactics, decisions, selection and strategies. In this respect there are more questions to be answered by the current management. With the budget we have had, notwithstanding the demand placed on players by the cup run and the unbelievable injuries, we are not really in contention for promotion, despite the die hards who seem to think that the prime requirement of being a fan is to engage in adulation.

Absolutly Spot on! totally agree.

Fantastic news this; infact I am prepared look at this as just as positive a step as it would be to be in a play-off spot. It is invaluable for the club to have the stability and leadership of a quality manager and person, not withstanding an excellent team of people including Steve Parkin who are in place, and doing good work at the club.

Well done Julian and Mark..we now look like a football club with a plan. Hey 27pts to play for and lets try and get as many as we can !

Few key signings in the summer Keeper - Goal scoring Mid - 25 goal Striker ( or two ) and we'll get there !

cormon wrote:
Perhaps we could have some explanation from the rose tinted glasses brigade as to why any critical analysis of the team's performances is perceived as negative? If being a fan is to maintain a delusional optimism in the face of hard statistics, then we seem to have quite a few fans. The current management team have been applauded by many posters for their improvements to the club and these are easily seen when we remember the Taylor regime. However, it's not negative to suggest that while discipline, defence, organisation and commitment have been excellent features of this season, the shortcomings are still evident to any observer. We are not in the position of winning games even when we boss possession. 1.5 goals per game is no basis for promotion and if we had an attacking mid-field player who ever ran at a defence to create space for forwards, it would be the first. We play possession and square passes in mid-field to wide players who are now sussed, despite Reid's welcome return to form in the second half on Saturday. It is fair to offer criticisms of actual tactics, decisions, selection and strategies. In this respect there are more questions to be answered by the current management. With the budget we have had, notwithstanding the demand placed on players by the cup run and the unbelievable injuries, we are not really in contention for promotion, despite the die hards who seem to think that the prime requirement of being a fan is to engage in adulation.

A breath of fresh air somebody who realises that spelling out the obvious facts is not negative or classes that person as a "boo boy". A very intelligent and sensible post. But just wait for the attack !!

excellent news. Stability will hopefully be a good thing. Now can we start winning some football matches?
What's the secret? How do other teams collect points and often win games by three or four?

lets forget about making the play offs, and that will relieve any pressure on the team. The management can then use the last 9 games to assess which of the current squad to keep, and which ones to show the door to. Then watch the brilliant signings we make during the summer. Lots of quality players will sign for us over many championship and league 1 teams due to what we achieved this season. i for one cannot wait and will enjoy the reast of this season too, regardless of how frustrating we are at times

Hi Gents

I think he already knows who he wants to keep, and who he wants for next season,,

Yours

Gentlemanbob

essess wrote:
You miserable lot yes you negative ones we have every chance for the play offs! No pressure now everyone thinks we have blown it but you never know as its a funny old game ask Wigan arsenal and Aston villa.even if we don't make it this time WHAT A MEMERABLE SEASON. Get signed up parky and finish what you have started even if its next season

The season was over when we couldnt beat bottom of the league and got hammered by one of our nearest competetors in the league. Its not being miserable or negative its realistic. After Wembley, we HAD to win the first game, we didnt and have been shoddy at best since. A small miracle is required to prevent that! Even Playing at home doesnt seem to matter at the moment. Bring on next season, lets do it all over again :/

cormon wrote:
Perhaps we could have some explanation from the rose tinted glasses brigade as to why any critical analysis of the team's performances is perceived as negative? If being a fan is to maintain a delusional optimism in the face of hard statistics, then we seem to have quite a few fans. The current management team have been applauded by many posters for their improvements to the club and these are easily seen when we remember the Taylor regime. However, it's not negative to suggest that while discipline, defence, organisation and commitment have been excellent features of this season, the shortcomings are still evident to any observer. We are not in the position of winning games even when we boss possession. 1.5 goals per game is no basis for promotion and if we had an attacking mid-field player who ever ran at a defence to create space for forwards, it would be the first. We play possession and square passes in mid-field to wide players who are now sussed, despite Reid's welcome return to form in the second half on Saturday. It is fair to offer criticisms of actual tactics, decisions, selection and strategies. In this respect there are more questions to be answered by the current management. With the budget we have had, notwithstanding the demand placed on players by the cup run and the unbelievable injuries, we are not really in contention for promotion, despite the die hards who seem to think that the prime requirement of being a fan is to engage in adulation.

Very good post. Nice one

Nothing wrong as "Fans" in criticising team selection, tactics, strategies and so forth. Isn't that what this section is for, to give our opinions on what WE, as INDIVIDUALS, think is right or wrong.

I am optimistic, about the future, forget the play-offs, not going to happen I reckon, and a few changes in personnel next season would be great. And maybe, just maybe, 6 figures for Nahki Wells? £100K+ would be lovely, Maybe that one is for another day...

Glad PP is on the verge of signing a new contract, no point getting rid, no-one better about that would take this job on anymore. We are no longer a big fish in a small pond, we're just in the pond... Plus the Cup Run was amazing, so thanks for that PP, I will never forget that night in Birmingham, great atmosphere.

But mostly, I'm looking forward to tomorrow, and getting away from my daughter for a couple of hours, as the terrible two's are kicking in!

(It's only a game gents)

what exactly is the Reading method?

a yo yo team in the past few seasons with several managerial changes the last of which was by a so called oligarch.

numerouno2 wrote:

cormon wrote: Perhaps we could have some explanation from the rose tinted glasses brigade as to why any critical analysis of the team's performances is perceived as negative? If being a fan is to maintain a delusional optimism in the face of hard statistics, then we seem to have quite a few fans. The current management team have been applauded by many posters for their improvements to the club and these are easily seen when we remember the Taylor regime. However, it's not negative to suggest that while discipline, defence, organisation and commitment have been excellent features of this season, the shortcomings are still evident to any observer. We are not in the position of winning games even when we boss possession. 1.5 goals per game is no basis for promotion and if we had an attacking mid-field player who ever ran at a defence to create space for forwards, it would be the first. We play possession and square passes in mid-field to wide players who are now sussed, despite Reid's welcome return to form in the second half on Saturday. It is fair to offer criticisms of actual tactics, decisions, selection and strategies. In this respect there are more questions to be answered by the current management. With the budget we have had, notwithstanding the demand placed on players by the cup run and the unbelievable injuries, we are not really in contention for promotion, despite the die hards who seem to think that the prime requirement of being a fan is to engage in adulation.

A breath of fresh air somebody who realises that spelling out the obvious facts is not negative or classes that person as a "boo boy". A very intelligent and sensible post. But just wait for the attack !!

numerouno2. You continue to adopt a siege like mentality (e.g."just wait for the attack"). Picking-up from this (and a previous) post, no-one is saying calling you a "boo boy" or denying you the right to an opinion. Debating is a two-way process.

Cormon. I think you have set your case out very clearly. As such, I do not predict the barrage of critisism that numerouno2 predicts.

In terms of "adulation", I am not with you on this. I believe that a lot of fans are disappointed but are prepared to be patient i.e. view this as a work in progress. Hence, there is an element of leeway afforded.

The cup-run has (more than) negated any budget deficit. Hence, I do not think it is fair to drag the wage-bill into the equation.

As I have previously commented, this has been an extraordinary (in the unusual sense) season. Who could have predicted the injuries, the cup-runs, family illness, FA cup expulsion and so on?

All these factors have to be taken into consideration and extend far beyond the usual plethora of excuses that a rose-tinted spectator would use to justify recent disappointments.

The real inquest should begin after the last ball has been kicked. It is a cliché, but this season has been a sharp learning curve. Valuable lessons must be carried forward to next season.

theoutsider wrote:
Fantastic news this; infact I am prepared look at this as just as positive a step as it would be to be in a play-off spot. It is invaluable for the club to have the stability and leadership of a quality manager and person, not withstanding an excellent team of people including Steve Parkin who are in place, and doing good work at the club.

Well done Julian and Mark..we now look like a football club with a plan. Hey 27pts to play for and lets try and get as many as we can !

Few key signings in the summer Keeper - Goal scoring Mid - 25 goal Striker ( or two ) and we'll get there !

TWO 25 goal strikers we can all dream lets just settle for 1 Keep wishing

lawsonio123 wrote:

theoutsider wrote:
Fantastic news this; infact I am prepared look at this as just as positive a step as it would be to be in a play-off spot. It is invaluable for the club to have the stability and leadership of a quality manager and person, not withstanding an excellent team of people including Steve Parkin who are in place, and doing good work at the club.

Well done Julian and Mark..we now look like a football club with a plan. Hey 27pts to play for and lets try and get as many as we can !

Few key signings in the summer Keeper - Goal scoring Mid - 25 goal Striker ( or two ) and we'll get there !

TWO 25 goal strikers we can all dream lets just settle for 1 Keep wishing

but will the directors sanction the purchase of van persie and messi. Just where are you going to get two strikers of such quality.

Hanson and Wells are capable of scoring a lot of goals at tis level but they have to be treated properly and ,in the case f Hanson, not to be expected to win balls that are bashed upward to his head from midfield.

Proper overlapping fullbacks, forward thinking box to box midfield players re also needed. THERE HAS TO BE FNAMENTAL CHNAGE INTHE STYLE OF PLAY AND THE SPEED OF PLAY but will we get that with Parky.

He has reverted to that which he nearly disastrously used last year with negative play tryng to nick a goal
y

to get promoted from any league you need your number 9 and 10 to chip in with 20+ goals each and then your midfielders chipping in with 20 between them,this is sadly lacking with wells on 14 and hanson on 6,and a handful scattered amongst the team,until we get a goal scoring front 2 and an attacking centre mid we will be in this league for many years to come!

went to Plymouth and Exeter
for all you radio listerners and know it alls
we were fukicgn sihet
stop making excuses when you don't even go to away games
play offs
YOUR AVING A LAUGTH

bantam59 wrote:
went to Plymouth and Exeter
for all you radio listerners and know it alls
we were fukicgn sihet
stop making excuses when you don't even go to away games
play offs
YOUR AVING A LAUGTH

Presumably nobody forced you?

bantam59 wrote:
went to Plymouth and Exeter
for all you radio listerners and know it alls
we were fukicgn sihet
stop making excuses when you don't even go to away games
play offs
YOUR AVING A LAUGTH

Agree. I'm as guilty as anyone of spending the last ten minutes of a miserable mind numbing away defeat pondering my football supporting future and evaluating my sanity and judgement at being stood or sat where i am. As soon as the final whistle goes however, i, like most/some of you, instantly get back to the car and immediately convince myself that it wasnt that bad, and look who/where we are playing next, and how we can, or WILL beat them. I think Its an addiction, like a drug. Its so easy to look forward and kid ourselves into thinking we can win the next seven matches when statistical fact and events which you have actually witnessed clearly show that its not going to happen.

But hey, who am i to burst the romantic bubble of footballing hope and dreams. My list of truely historically memorable city matches have had five new additions in the last few months alone so never say never, just dont say it too loudly or the men in white suits might come for you.

Without optimism, hope, positive attitudes and good support, things we are all capable of providing the club in spades should we wish to, we are giving the opposition the advantage. Heres to Bantam Progressivism and an 11th penalty shoot out win in May.

bantam59 wrote:
went to Plymouth and Exeter
for all you radio listerners and know it alls
we were fukicgn sihet
stop making excuses when you don't even go to away games
play offs
YOUR AVING A LAUGTH

Hahahahaha

Stevie-C wrote:

bantam59 wrote:
went to Plymouth and Exeter
for all you radio listerners and know it alls
we were fukicgn sihet
stop making excuses when you don't even go to away games
play offs
YOUR AVING A LAUGTH

Hahahahaha

YOU MAY LAUGTH AT MY OPINIONS BUT DO YOU KNOW ONLY ACCRINGTON STANLEY HAVE BEEN IN THIS DROSS LEAGUE 2 LONGER THAN CITY AND IF THEY ARE RELEGATED WE HAVE A GREAT ACCHIEVMENT OF BEEN THE LONGEST SIDE IN ENGLISH LEAGUE 2
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL AT THAT COMMENT THEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!

cormon wrote:
Perhaps we could have some explanation from the rose tinted glasses brigade as to why any critical analysis of the team's performances is perceived as negative?

If being a fan is to maintain a delusional optimism in the face of hard statistics, then we seem to have quite a few fans.

The current management team have been applauded by many posters for their improvements to the club and these are easily seen when we remember the Taylor regime. However, it's not negative to suggest that while discipline, defence, organisation and commitment have been excellent features of this season, the shortcomings are still evident to any observer. We are not in the position of winning games even when we boss possession. 1.5 goals per game is no basis for promotion and if we had an attacking mid-field player who ever ran at a defence to create space for forwards, it would be the first. We play possession and square passes in mid-field to wide players who are now sussed, despite Reid's welcome return to form in the second half on Saturday.

It is fair to offer criticisms of actual tactics, decisions, selection and strategies. In this respect there are more questions to be answered by the current management. With the budget we have had, notwithstanding the demand placed on players by the cup run and the unbelievable injuries, we are not really in contention for promotion, despite the die hards who seem to think that the prime requirement of being a fan is to engage in adulation.

INSTEAD of talking crap go watch this dross week in week out then someone might take your comments in!!!!!!!!!!!!
IT SOUNDS LIKE YOUR A WEMBLEY FAN

Michael Clayton wrote:

numerouno2 wrote:

cormon wrote: Perhaps we could have some explanation from the rose tinted glasses brigade as to why any critical analysis of the team's performances is perceived as negative? If being a fan is to maintain a delusional optimism in the face of hard statistics, then we seem to have quite a few fans. The current management team have been applauded by many posters for their improvements to the club and these are easily seen when we remember the Taylor regime. However, it's not negative to suggest that while discipline, defence, organisation and commitment have been excellent features of this season, the shortcomings are still evident to any observer. We are not in the position of winning games even when we boss possession. 1.5 goals per game is no basis for promotion and if we had an attacking mid-field player who ever ran at a defence to create space for forwards, it would be the first. We play possession and square passes in mid-field to wide players who are now sussed, despite Reid's welcome return to form in the second half on Saturday. It is fair to offer criticisms of actual tactics, decisions, selection and strategies. In this respect there are more questions to be answered by the current management. With the budget we have had, notwithstanding the demand placed on players by the cup run and the unbelievable injuries, we are not really in contention for promotion, despite the die hards who seem to think that the prime requirement of being a fan is to engage in adulation.

A breath of fresh air somebody who realises that spelling out the obvious facts is not negative or classes that person as a "boo boy". A very intelligent and sensible post. But just wait for the attack !!

numerouno2. You continue to adopt a siege like mentality (e.g."just wait for the attack"). Picking-up from this (and a previous) post, no-one is saying calling you a "boo boy" or denying you the right to an opinion. Debating is a two-way process. Cormon. I think you have set your case out very clearly. As such, I do not predict the barrage of critisism that numerouno2 predicts. In terms of "adulation", I am not with you on this. I believe that a lot of fans are disappointed but are prepared to be patient i.e. view this as a work in progress. Hence, there is an element of leeway afforded. The cup-run has (more than) negated any budget deficit. Hence, I do not think it is fair to drag the wage-bill into the equation. As I have previously commented, this has been an extraordinary (in the unusual sense) season. Who could have predicted the injuries, the cup-runs, family illness, FA cup expulsion and so on? All these factors have to be taken into consideration and extend far beyond the usual plethora of excuses that a rose-tinted spectator would use to justify recent disappointments. The real inquest should begin after the last ball has been kicked. It is a cliché, but this season has been a sharp learning curve. Valuable lessons must be carried forward to next season.

Congratulations you have realised that debating is a two way process. You have been one of the regular posters who chastise those people who dare say anything negative about the team, tactics or anything else related to the club and shut that door in the face of that person with the biggest slam !. So don't you dare call my comments "siege like" mentallity. I was protecting Cormon from the likes of you !

numerouno2 wrote:

Michael Clayton wrote:

numerouno2 wrote:

cormon wrote: Perhaps we could have some explanation from the rose tinted glasses brigade as to why any critical analysis of the team's performances is perceived as negative? If being a fan is to maintain a delusional optimism in the face of hard statistics, then we seem to have quite a few fans. The current management team have been applauded by many posters for their improvements to the club and these are easily seen when we remember the Taylor regime. However, it's not negative to suggest that while discipline, defence, organisation and commitment have been excellent features of this season, the shortcomings are still evident to any observer. We are not in the position of winning games even when we boss possession. 1.5 goals per game is no basis for promotion and if we had an attacking mid-field player who ever ran at a defence to create space for forwards, it would be the first. We play possession and square passes in mid-field to wide players who are now sussed, despite Reid's welcome return to form in the second half on Saturday. It is fair to offer criticisms of actual tactics, decisions, selection and strategies. In this respect there are more questions to be answered by the current management. With the budget we have had, notwithstanding the demand placed on players by the cup run and the unbelievable injuries, we are not really in contention for promotion, despite the die hards who seem to think that the prime requirement of being a fan is to engage in adulation.

A breath of fresh air somebody who realises that spelling out the obvious facts is not negative or classes that person as a "boo boy". A very intelligent and sensible post. But just wait for the attack !!

numerouno2. You continue to adopt a siege like mentality (e.g."just wait for the attack"). Picking-up from this (and a previous) post, no-one is saying calling you a "boo boy" or denying you the right to an opinion. Debating is a two-way process. Cormon. I think you have set your case out very clearly. As such, I do not predict the barrage of critisism that numerouno2 predicts. In terms of "adulation", I am not with you on this. I believe that a lot of fans are disappointed but are prepared to be patient i.e. view this as a work in progress. Hence, there is an element of leeway afforded. The cup-run has (more than) negated any budget deficit. Hence, I do not think it is fair to drag the wage-bill into the equation. As I have previously commented, this has been an extraordinary (in the unusual sense) season. Who could have predicted the injuries, the cup-runs, family illness, FA cup expulsion and so on? All these factors have to be taken into consideration and extend far beyond the usual plethora of excuses that a rose-tinted spectator would use to justify recent disappointments. The real inquest should begin after the last ball has been kicked. It is a cliché, but this season has been a sharp learning curve. Valuable lessons must be carried forward to next season.

Congratulations you have realised that debating is a two way process. You have been one of the regular posters who chastise those people who dare say anything negative about the team, tactics or anything else related to the club and shut that door in the face of that person with the biggest slam !. So don't you dare call my comments "siege like" mentallity. I was protecting Cormon from the likes of you !

Perhaps you could give me some examples of where I have chastised people?

(The only time I recall a 'dig' was when I got annoyed with the ex-pat Wembley brigade who stamped their feet when the ticket policy was announced).

As for Cormon, he does not need protecting as he is able to state his case. Whether or not I (or others) agree with him is a irrelevant.

I think the issue is with you i.e. you want to paint yourself as the victim when someone has an opinion different to yours.

Michael Clayton wrote:

numerouno2 wrote:

Michael Clayton wrote:

numerouno2 wrote:

cormon wrote: Perhaps we could have some explanation from the rose tinted glasses brigade as to why any critical analysis of the team's performances is perceived as negative? If being a fan is to maintain a delusional optimism in the face of hard statistics, then we seem to have quite a few fans. The current management team have been applauded by many posters for their improvements to the club and these are easily seen when we remember the Taylor regime. However, it's not negative to suggest that while discipline, defence, organisation and commitment have been excellent features of this season, the shortcomings are still evident to any observer. We are not in the position of winning games even when we boss possession. 1.5 goals per game is no basis for promotion and if we had an attacking mid-field player who ever ran at a defence to create space for forwards, it would be the first. We play possession and square passes in mid-field to wide players who are now sussed, despite Reid's welcome return to form in the second half on Saturday. It is fair to offer criticisms of actual tactics, decisions, selection and strategies. In this respect there are more questions to be answered by the current management. With the budget we have had, notwithstanding the demand placed on players by the cup run and the unbelievable injuries, we are not really in contention for promotion, despite the die hards who seem to think that the prime requirement of being a fan is to engage in adulation.

A breath of fresh air somebody who realises that spelling out the obvious facts is not negative or classes that person as a "boo boy". A very intelligent and sensible post. But just wait for the attack !!

numerouno2. You continue to adopt a siege like mentality (e.g."just wait for the attack"). Picking-up from this (and a previous) post, no-one is saying calling you a "boo boy" or denying you the right to an opinion. Debating is a two-way process. Cormon. I think you have set your case out very clearly. As such, I do not predict the barrage of critisism that numerouno2 predicts. In terms of "adulation", I am not with you on this. I believe that a lot of fans are disappointed but are prepared to be patient i.e. view this as a work in progress. Hence, there is an element of leeway afforded. The cup-run has (more than) negated any budget deficit. Hence, I do not think it is fair to drag the wage-bill into the equation. As I have previously commented, this has been an extraordinary (in the unusual sense) season. Who could have predicted the injuries, the cup-runs, family illness, FA cup expulsion and so on? All these factors have to be taken into consideration and extend far beyond the usual plethora of excuses that a rose-tinted spectator would use to justify recent disappointments. The real inquest should begin after the last ball has been kicked. It is a cliché, but this season has been a sharp learning curve. Valuable lessons must be carried forward to next season.

Congratulations you have realised that debating is a two way process. You have been one of the regular posters who chastise those people who dare say anything negative about the team, tactics or anything else related to the club and shut that door in the face of that person with the biggest slam !. So don't you dare call my comments "siege like" mentallity. I was protecting Cormon from the likes of you !

Perhaps you could give me some examples of where I have chastised people? (The only time I recall a 'dig' was when I got annoyed with the ex-pat Wembley brigade who stamped their feet when the ticket policy was announced). As for Cormon, he does not need protecting as he is able to state his case. Whether or not I (or others) agree with him is a irrelevant. I think the issue is with you i.e. you want to paint yourself as the victim when someone has an opinion different to yours.

Unfortunately you agree with nobody except yourself. Posters on this site including yourself take exception when anyone spells out the true facts of how this league campaign (and only league) has panned out which is slightly different to having an opinion.

"Unfortunately you agree with nobody except yourself".

I ask you to prove this assertion.

(Incidentally, this is the third occasion on which I have requested a reply from you).

"...true facts"; but these are the pre-cursors to the opinions that follow? Cormon used factual information as the basis for his argument.